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Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Patrick Wood, expert on TECHNOCRACY, and hs has a new white paper that assets President Trumps motivation for war in Iran has more to do with TRADE than nukes, open phones follow.

This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. It's the Bill Meyer Show on KMED, Southern Oregon's Place to Talk. Pretty meaty conspiracy theory Thursday talk here, Dr. Nadi Shaman, just a moment ago. Talk with him for the last 25 minutes or so. And Patrick Wood will join. I meet to continue conspiracy theory Thursday.

He's talking about what he sees as the economic drivers of what we're doing, this excursion to Iran, as they're starting to call it. Very good. We'll have that coming up here in the next few minutes. Lucretia, I'll give you a bite. What are you thinking? I know you want to ask questions. I just ran out of time with the doctor.

Go ahead. Yeah, I'm glad to say basically it's originally it was a key later. they use it for cleaning stoves. And then also it's... Are you sure you're talking about glyphosate? Because I thought you're talking about DMSO being used as an industrial solvent. I thought that's what that was. No, recently it was like that in an antibiotic,

it can kill your death floor just like that. That it's like when they were feeding its pigs, the corn and the soy, they would get up to 80 parts per billion, and he was an Army general that was told to study it, and they said that at half a part per billion, it destroys your gut flora, and we're seeing all the seabull and irritable bowel. Well, maybe there's something to connect that for sure. Would you prefer the city of Ashland do something different with their spraying, though, in the medians? Yeah.

You know, if they're going to be this green agenda, BS on the rest of it, that's the most important thing. Dr. Klinghart says it's one of the three top things causing the extinction level event. All right. Well, appreciate the opinion. Thanks for that. I think we have Gene. Hello, Gene. Go ahead.

Okay. Yeah, I've heard the rumor that zinc and copper will drive bugs away. So you don't have to use any of this harsh stuff that affects your health. you don't have to use it because that's the old stuff that they used to use back in the old days when we were intelligent. Okay, well, have you seen the price of copper lately, though? Oh, well, be careful with it. Be stingy. All right. Thanks for the call, Gene. Let me go to Scott. Scott, I'll give you another bite of that fire away. Go ahead. Hey, Bill, we sprayed out on the ranch, and we spray also Crossbow to keep down the Blackberries.

But, man. Now, I think that Crossbow, that's two, isn't it, what is it called 2-1D or what is it called again? Crossbow? I'm not sure on that. 24D, 2-4-D, I think, is in that. There are sheets on it, but there are some weeds that are resistant. You have to pull them or dig them up with a shovel along the dishes. So it's sprayed a lot to keep, and it keeps the grass down basically, so it down to these huge fires.

So, you know, it's one of the other guys. Yeah, all right. Thanks for the call. Hi, KMEDE, good morning. Hi, this is John. John. Hello, John. Hi.

I just wanted to let you know that Gregory Wrightstone, because he's flying all the way out from Washington, D.C., he also said, can he talk Friday night in Medford, which he's going to do from 5 to 7, the Rogue X. And I want to just let everybody know, Gregory Wrightstone is in charge of the CO2. coalition, and they're the ones that gave President Trump 40 PhDs to fill all the spots within the government, and they're responsible for the government changing their whole idea about CO2. So what time is he going to be speaking at Rogex Friday? He's going to be speaking from 5 to 7 o'clock at Rogex, and he's going to do a presentation.

He has a PowerPoint presentation explaining how we need more CO2, not less. All right, 5 till 7. That's going to be next Friday night. next Friday night at World Gex. A week from this Friday night. All right. I want everybody to know. All right, John.

Thanks for the tip. KMEDE, good morning. Hi, who's this? Yeah, good morning, Bill. David. Hi, David. This want to say round and round we go. About 11 years ago, maybe 12,

we went to this in Ashland, and we voted to not use Roundup. Or besides, we voted to do it mechanically, hula holes, and pulling weeds and all that. And we would get out in front of the library with our buckets and pull weeds and all that good stuff. And you couldn't get anybody in the community to come out and do it. And so they went back to spraying the median, which is what they're complaining about.

Because they have to block the roads so that their workers don't get hit by the cars. That's the safety issue that they're talking about. and so they went back to using herbicides. And so I'm surprised that this has come back around, but it's one more thing that they just got to have something to keep complaining about. You know, there is one thing. You know, there's one thing I wanted to bring up, though, and I didn't have time to go with the doctor because I don't look at him as a fertilizer

or an herbicide expert, per se, oncology. but there are now types of weed killers that seem to work pretty well, but it's not the 24D and it's not the glyphosate. But what it is, it's, and I don't have it in front of me, but I've purchased some of it before you'll see it marketed underground clear. And it has an ammonium salt in it, an ammonium salt that, and what it does is that it makes the plant hemorrhage to death. It kind of bursts the cell, and so the plant dies.

but the challenge is that it doesn't kill everything down to the root like roundups do, you know, which actually kills the plants. And also that would kill the grass. Yeah, you kill the grass, but then you'd have to remove it and do other things. When I went to the meetings, I said, let's remove the grass in those mediums and fill it in with decorative chiprock just so it's clean and neat or fill it in with concrete and just have cement islands out there. These are those islands with the light poles that divide the two streets.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And there you go. Oh, no, we need the grass. It'll look ugly and it won't be pretty and whatnot. So I'm just calling up. I don't care one way or another.

Yeah. Well, I mean, we'll call him to say, we've already been through this in Ashland. And we're going to be through it again. And again, they recycle the same old crap. All right. Appreciate the call, David, as always. And I'll take one more. and then I'm going to get Mr. Technocracy on here just a minute.

Yeah, Patrick Wood. Hello. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Good by, Mayor, Dave. Yeah, Dave. Okay, Dave, your phone's cutting out there. It'll be another time then.

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Extra chewy. Extra. Nourishing, I guess, is what we're talking about this morning, Gus, between talking glyphosate last hour with Dr. Shottie. And then talking with Patrick Wood, technocracy.News. This is the gentleman who has been sharing with us off and on over the years about, what he has been warning about, the rise of a technate. Isn't that right, Patrick? Patrick Wood. That's right.

Technocracy produces technates, I guess. That's the city unit or state unit that's run by technocrats and by the ideology of technocracy. And by the way, not only is Patrick Wood there running technocracy. Which is a great site to cite rather to keep up on this. He has a substack available. And what is your latest book on this subject, too? So people know about that and then get a copy. Well, exactly. My latest book was written with Courtney Turner. It's called The Final Betrayal, a cautionary tale, How Technocracy Destroyed America.

Now, you're saying that America, like what past tense has already been destroyed, in your view, in your opinion, of where we're headed? At this point, the damage has been done. Can we reverse it possibly, but will still be, you know, left with the damage, the hubris, if you will. Okay. What I find interesting is that you put out a white paper the other day, and I'm going to put up the information on this, Pat. And it's about the IMEC, the India-M-E-C, the India-Midl-E-E-Urup corridor. and you have a really thought-provoking claim there on your site, on your substack,

that IMEC is the real reason that we ended up having this excursion with Iran. And I remember that, you know, a few weeks ago when they were talking about the nuclear weapons part about it, that never made sense to me. I thought it was about squeezing China, just like I thought that Venezuela was about squeezing China, and it was about the trade. And you're saying that it's not about. squeezing China just. There's more to it than that.

So you're putting meat on the bone here? Why don't you set the table of what you see going on here? Exactly. This business of the IMEC corridor is just called India, Middle East, Europe, economic corridor. This was proposed several years ago by Jared Kushner, who was the author or the architect of the Abraham Accords. Kushner, of course, is Trump's son-in-law. And this concept kind of just set, you know, wasn't talked about too much in the public arena,

but it's coming to the fore now because the nations who are trying to get this thing going. This will be the biggest trade route, potentially, in the world. And it will originate in India. It'll go through Amman, Saudi Arabia, through Israel, and then on to Europe. When you see it on paper, I put the map on the main image on my website. When you see this map, it's stunning. because there's never been a trade route like this in the modern world. And at this point, the idea is this isn't Trump's mind for sure because Gossus right in the middle of this.

And one of the route terminuses will be Haifa in Israel. and that's just 93 miles north of Gaza. So, you know, this is a big deal. And it just so happens that the trade route needs access to the strait of Hormuz. This currently, you know, being hassled or taken over by Iran. So this is playing into the narrative now that this whole this whole thing will be scuttled. The IMEC corridor will be scuttled if somehow Iran could keep control of the strait of a Hermose. Well, that makes sense because if Iran's able to hold sway and continue to allow or deny shipping,

it kind of blows the whole thing up, doesn't it? Totally. It really does. And, you know, Iran, they're in a tough spot right now for sure because Iran needs global trade. You know, they're a big nation. They have lots that could be offered to the world. But they're going to be isolated if they cut this trade route off and the further, further isolated. So, you know, they're between Iraq and a hard place at this point. And I think the outcome will be, I hate to say this in this way,

but basically they're going to be the total destruction of Iran if they do not comply. Well, it appears that they're working on the total destruction of Iran right now anyway. I know. But would you... All right. So am I correct, though, in assuming that the statement that this was about nukes, and this is what most Americans will sit around there, hey, you know, they're keeping us safe by doing this? Is that just the pretext?

Am I correct in your assessment of this? Absolutely. I've thought this before I wrote this paper, that there's the threat of nukes is just ridiculous. How many years have we been saying this? Oh, they're just two weeks away of getting news. You would think of some point along the way they actually get them, and if they ever got a nuclear weapon, they would use it immediately to destroy Israel.

You know that. So the nuclear threat is absolutely ludicrous, but this is what they say. But that would certainly get we the people lining up. Now, if this is about the big money and international trade, and also, now, this sounds like this would be a competitor to what China is doing with what the Silk Road and also the – this would also kind of undercut the bricks, wouldn't it? Exactly.

India, by the way, is the eye in bricks. Right? India is part of that consortium. So the fact that India is buying into this scheme for IMAC, that's huge. It's basically going to split the BRICs nations right down the middle. And it also is going to isolate China to an extent, obviously, because if China's Belt and Road initiative is degraded, or, if traffic is taken away from that initiative, well, that leaves them high and dry as well. And if you look at what all the billions and billions of dollars that China has sunk into the Belt and Road project,

you look at the map of IMAC and it blows it out of the water. There's no way they can compete. Now, in your paper, by the way, from your substact, Patrick Woody is with me this morning. You're saying that IMEC, and by the way, IMEC, there was a, you're right in here, that it was September of 2023, the governments of India, the United States, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, France, Germany, Italy, and the European Union signed this memorandum of understanding at the G20 summit in the New Delhi or New Delhi. So this is not some conspiracy theory.

This is right. The receipts are out there. People signed it in the open, right? I just want to make sure that people understand that. Exactly. Okay. All right. So this is official then, but you're saying that this is more than just a trade route.

You're saying it's a control grid. How so? Explain that. Well, we have to remember that technocracy thrive on infrastructure, and this trade route is about a holistic infrastructure, not just to carry ships and rail traffic, stuff like that, but it's also going to be a source of a pipeline that will transmit hydrogen as well as oil and natural gas to Europe. Now, wait, how are you transmitting hydrogen?

Was it a pipeline for hydrogen? Was this green hydrogen of some sort? What's the story there? I didn't mean, yeah, hydrogen is a fuel of one of the fuels of the future. Apparently, India has a lot of it. So that's one way for them to get rid, you know, get it to market. Okay. But the corridor also has provisions for massive fiber optic cable trunk lines to connect all this region together in a network of the AI data centers.

and here's the technocrats at work now. And so there's when you look at the possibility of connecting all these regions, or like from Saudi Arabia to Greece to India, connecting this through a high-speed internet connection, replete with AI data centers, this is stunning. I mean, there's nothing like. this in the world at this point. So technocrats are the ones behind this whole thing in the first place, in my opinion. But it's about global, it's about global trade. There's never been

something this significant in our modern history. But this is not in the headline right now, is it? Not, not at all. Is that by design or not? Well, I would think so. I mean, It's being suppressed, obviously, but nobody cares about trade. This is one of those topics that, you know, they just don't relate to it, you know. Same thing with economics. People don't want to talk about economics. They want to talk about politics. That's where the fun is, right?

Right. So when you start talking, economics to people, they just zone out. And move on, move on. I'm having to see here. Yeah, well, you know, Patrick, the thing about this, though, when he comes to economic, I've been, I've come around for years and years and years that, or after years and years of observation, I guess you have too, that the people I almost pay more attention to are not the politics, but the money people, because the money people are the ones that instantly fail if

they're wrong. So, you know, what they're doing, you sit up and watch. And that's kind of what you're talking about here with this India, Middle Eastern Europe corridor. Don't pay attention to what the politicians blather, look at where the money and the infrastructure is going. That's what you're saying with this. Exactly. Exactly. Follow the money, follow the power. And does that mean that this is an excursion, if you want to call it that,

from the United States government for the money? Actually, it's not necessarily the government at this point, although the government in our country is involved. but the thing that's driving this is the forces of technocracy in our government. And, you know, we saw this. We talked about this, I think, an earlier show, like the Trilado Commission, for instance, took over the U.S. government in the 1970s, and they said, we're not interested in politics, but they did anyway.

But what they achieved was to take over the economic engine of the world. and they used that to reform the world, trade, industry, et cetera, and they did. They did it through the auspices of our political mechanism. Well, this same thing is happening today with the technocrats in Washington, D.C. They're using our government as a front, if you will, to achieve these things. But remember, when President Trump created the Peace Board, he just, he, he, He didn't do it as President of the United States. He did it as a private citizen.

So he's the chairman of the Peace Board at this point. He can't be disposed. It's a position he'll hold for life. And he also has the right to name his successor. His successor, that's crazy too. But he did this as a private citizen, not as the President of the United States. So this business of the Peace Board is operating outside of the United States altogether, even though the president is the president here. He's the president, if you will, of the Peace Board.

So what does this mean for Gaza now, for instance? That was their first initiative to take over Gaza. You see Jared Kushner talking about, well, we're going to run GASNA with. Gaza with technocrats, a political technocrats, he says. In other words, we will have the experts in charge of governing areas rather than those pesky politicians that just can't get anything done, right? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So what does that mean? Could you hang on for just a few more minutes and talk about this a bit? Okay. MED. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers show.

Patrick Wood is with me, and of course, technocracy.news, his website. And the reason I invited them on it is that I never quite bought the story that Americans were being sold that this excursion in Iran is about the nukes. Because I remember back in July of last year, everyone was quite happily, and it made sense saying that everything was destroyed at that point. But when Patrick Wood comes out and talks about the Indian Middle East Europe Economic Corridor, which was agreed to a couple of years ago. Then, having Iran in charge of the Strait of Hormuz would not work under this situation.

Is that a fair assessment? And that's what you think is really driving this. Patrick? I exactly so. Okay. And you have it up on technocracy. It's a really interesting read and good stuff there. Gino's here.

He wanted to weigh in on this too. Gino, you say you were reading of what presents. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for the intelligent conversation. Well, thanks. I just want to throw a lot on the fire. The book is called The Grand Chess Board by Zygneu Bersinski.

Came out in 2016, let's see, 2016. And he talks about, let me just read this short little piece of paragraph here, provocative geo strategy to maintain American, U.S. dominance in the political order of the world by control and be the sole political arbiter in Eurasia to prevent the emergence of rival powers threatening our material and diplomatic interests. He goes on, of course. That's just the opening lines.

Yeah, Gina, what do you think about that, Pat? I think Bresensky probably as, well, he was far ahead of the curve, for sure. I didn't like his mindset and where he was coming from, but nevertheless, he was a brilliant, you know, a theoretician and political scientists. And, you know, he talked about a lot about the Mideast. Now, we're going to go back to dirty politics here for just a moment. And I know that, you know, everybody likes talking politics because it's easier. But we're talking about foreign policy like this and strategy and economic strategy especially.

A lot of MAGA people have been upset about what's been going on saying that, hey, you know, going into Iran, this is not about making America great again. With the Trump administration, though, would they be looking at this with IMAC as part of MAGA from their point of view, ultimately, you know, the money powers getting all behind, you know, in this? And yet we're sold to build the goods about it being about nukes and crazy Muslims. What do you think? Well, exactly. I think mega at this point is basically over. It's so splintered anymore. There's lots of different ideologies floating around that are confusing people. So it really has lost its luster, if you will, as a unifying factor in America. That's sad. I was part of the populist movement before the last election. So I can't complain on it myself, but I don't see that the MAGA movement actually have any, having any, you know, going forward. Well, that may be, okay, well, when it comes to politics, we'll see midterms.

But let's just focus, though, on IMAC, though. This is what I wanted to do on what its real effect would be, because, you know, what, what is the conventional wisdom been talking about? American dollar, doomed, $38 trillion, doomed, you know, all. this kind of thing. And America is going to have to, you know, take the multipolar world. This IMEC plan, though, with Kushner and others involved, seems to be about keeping us firmly in control, doesn't it? It does. And unfortunately, you know, you have to, well, is it the United States is it going to be control or is it going to be this international cartel of independent businessmen that are going to be in

control. At this point, you have to figure Gaza is at the center of this whole plant. That's why we see all this business with the peace board and how they're going to take over and rebuild Gaza into this beautiful Mediterranean city, et cetera. This is the focal point of this trade route. If they can get this established and it's already under construction in some areas, in other words, they've broken dirt. If this can get established, it'll make Gaza one of the most important areas on planet Earth. So this is where President Trump is placing his bets at this point. He's the president of the Peace Board, and he's also involved with his family's financial company called World Liberty Finance.

That's a tokenization company that has a USDA1 token that's being promoted as the currency for Gaza. That's the technocratic currency for Gaza. So you have the Trump, kind of the Trump orbit, if you will, involved in every aspect in Gaza at this point. and he's not doing it on behalf of America. This is my big point here. All of his family, sons and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, they're not acting as if they're Americans. They've divorced themselves from America,

and they're doing it on their own at this point. This is very disturbing. So does this explain then why, a lot of those Persian Gulf nations are really upset about what's happening in Iran right now. It's not about that they love Iran because Iran's been, you know, a thorn in their side there too. But I noticed that there were billionaires that were talking about, hey, nobody consulted us about, you know, bringing war to our backyard. I think you're right. Yeah, certainly.

And you see, you see at this point, Iran is attacking all of us Arab neighbors. Yeah. And this kind of shines light on the fact that, well, they all hated Iran in the first place. Saudi Arabia would have done the job of nuking or getting rid of Iran along the way, but they don't have the military to do it. So they're sitting back saying, hey, let's let the United States take care of it and we'll reap the rewards of having this corridor. are going through our country. And so, you know, and I see this as like the other countries in the Mideast as well. They're looking to us to open the corridor up by maintaining control over the strait of a Hormuz.

Okay, which is pretty key, given that a whole lot of the nations or the world's oil goes through there. Also fertilizer and helium. I mean, it's key. It's key stuff. All right. I don't have, you know, all morning to do this. I'm just going to recommend people go take a read of this. And then, you know, maybe we talk about this again in the future and see what they think.

But do you believe then that, you know, when people say that, hey, because there have been two ways of looking at the Iran war, right? You had like the Joe Kent's of the world that said, oh, President Trump was listening to is just listening to BBNet and Yahoo, right? but I don't necessarily believe that in this particular case, I thought it always was about China, but you're saying it's much bigger than just China, and that's what this is really all about, and you're bringing this information out there to people, right? I just want to make sure that I understand the lay of that land. I think so. And when we talk about who's got the money, who's got money and the skin in the game, so to speak.

We don't see United States putting money into this thing at this point, especially in Gaza. The United States has produced $1. Yeah, it may in the future, but hasn't yet. And Israel also has not put billions of dollars into Gaza at this point as a trade hub. They might in the future, I realize. But at this point, the hundreds of millions of dollars are coming from. Arab countries, not the West. And so you have to scratch your head on this.

Why are they pouring billions of dollars into this project, especially in Gaza? You have to, well, the question is, who's in control here? Who's driving this thing? Is it somehow Israel or is it the Arab nations? I will say flat out, it's the Arab nations. This is why we should be worried, I think, because they uniformly are set against the United States. We don't want this kind of a block taking over this trade corridor.

So is IMAC then, is IMAC, in other words, this war, in your opinion, about breaking up the air, Arab influence and bringing it under an American umbrella? Well, it's bringing it under the influence of the West. I can't say American umbrella because, like I said, America is not involved. The president himself personally is involved, but not as president of the United States. But yet as president of the United States, he's attacked Iran, though, which is part of the problem with IMEC, right? I know. You're exactly right. So the president is acting on using our military to achieve private ends, if you will.

That's an interesting statement there. I'm going to have to roll that around my bean here, Pat. All right. I will. Okay. I understand. This chess board may be a little more complex than my feeble brain is able to conceptualize, but I'm going to work on it, okay? I really will. And I'll have you back. And just remember, though, that this war is not... I think the takeaway, though, this war is not what it seems to us, the way it's being sold. I think that's a fair statement. Okay.

Very good. Patrick Wood, technocracy.news. And the article is up there right now. And I'll just give you the title of it. It's Trump's War with Iran is about global trade, period. Global trade period. But that also then, the final question, though, that also helps us ultimately where he can benefit, you know, private money, private equity, private, private, you know, big money people. But could that not also benefit the United States trade overall?

What do you think? That's, I can't answer that question at this point. You can't. I just don't know. All right. Pat, we'll have you back. Thank you for coming on and talking about it, all right? Be well.

My pleasure. Technocracy. Dot news. Patrick Wood. What do you think about them, apples? 770KMED. This is the Bill Meyer show. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing.

For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontanaroofing services.com. Welcome back to take.com. The Bill Meyer Show is on. News Talk 1063, KMED. Now, isn't this special? Breaking News. Pentagon seeks $200 billion to fund the Iran War. You got to pay the Piper some point, right?

There we go. 7705633. Yep. Them bombs don't replace themselves, right? Well, I know that interesting times find herself. Boy, that was an interesting talk there. Meaty conversation with Mr. Technocracy. Patrick Wood, don't know if I'm buying it at all, but, you know, these agreements were done, like I said, two years ago.

even before the Trump administration was back in the saddle. Interesting. Steve, you wanted to weigh in on that. Go ahead. We were talking about this IMEC corridor, this international trade corridor, going right through Gaza, Israel, right through the Strait of Hormuz. And Patrick Wood believes this is the real reason that the Iranians needed to be taken out. What do you think about that?

Interesting theory, is that? Well, I think that whoever controls the Strait of Hormuz controls how much energy China and India get. Yeah, for sure. And Japan started war against the United States because we had sanctions against them for energy and scrap metal. These are the things that big wars get started over. And I mean, right now they're just saying it's not the goal, not the intent to stop the flow of oil in China. but whoever controls that straight definitely has a stranglehold on those economies. And that's the largest section of population in the world.

Yeah. But you see, you know, that makes more sense than the nuke's, than the nuke theory, wouldn't you think? Oh, yeah. I think so. Yeah. I mean, there was going to be nuke sometime. And the problem is Israel's a small place and it's too close and one nuke takes them out. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. If they did get it, that's what Gad said. said is that they're just too concentrated and too easy to do if they got a hold of it. But, yeah, they've been crying wolf on that for decades. Yeah. Thanks, Steve. Louis, I know you called during Patrick Wood, but did you want to put a period on what you said?

Go ahead. This is Brother Louis. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm amazed at this conversation. It suddenly changes everything for me. I was pretty sure that this is going to end up with Israel nuking Iran. But I don't even know what to think.

Now I've got a whole new perspective from Dr. Patrick here. Yeah, well, I still don't know what to think about it. I just found it so thought-provoking and so against the grain of what is presented to the folks in the regular news channels that I thought it was worthy of a conversation with him to see where he's going. Totally. I think you should have him on again. And I appreciate that so much. I'm still worried about if Israel starts to look in trouble, in deep trouble, which they could. Yeah.

Because Iran is not giving up, and they can do some damage. Oh, yeah. Ron's been very resilient in all of this. I think people were surprised a bit about that. But then you're finding out kind of how decentralized to the leadership was there. Yeah. It's much a different story now, but I'm still concerned that it's, that Israel is going to nuke Iran at some point.

Well, let us pray for no nukes. I'm going to sound like a peacnick for the 1970s. No nukes, no nukes. Whoop, whoo, who. I'm with you on that one. Yeah, because, you know, good things don't tend to come from that kind of activity. Can we all agree on that, folks, no matter what? Although I have to say here in Southern Oregon, according to Joel Scousin, you know, of a world affairs brief,

that we are in a much better place to weather a nuclear storm than many other areas of this country. Prevealing wins are good for us, okay? Hi, K. Amyne, good morning. Who's this? Yeah, Bill. Just a quick second nibbles, David and Phoenix. I just wanted to say last night, the co-author of the book, she was of your guest, she was on John B. Wells last night. No kidding. We've got to hear both of them. So I want to tell you, thank you. Good job on all that. Oh, no, okay. So Dr. Shoddy Nobham's co-author was there?

Yeah, about technocracy. Yeah, she was on. Oh, oh, of the, oh, of the, okay, I get it. Yeah, the different one. She was, she was, she was, she was on, on last night. And she thinks that, that, that, that we're already in too deep, that America kind of as already, we've already drank the Kool-Aid and we're in a little bit deep. She, she's an optimist, though. She really thinks that we could turn things around, but. But, you know, it's like everybody's more concerned about who won the Oscars or something.

And she just doesn't see Americans really being willing to do it. Yeah, well, maybe she's right. He's right. I appreciate the call. Thank you for that. You grab a couple more. Hi, KM.D. Good morning.

Hello? Yeah, me, Bill. It sure is. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Hey, I called for kind of a frivolous reason. Did you or any of your other listeners noticed what could have been a satellite, like in the Southwest guy last night? No, I did not notice.

I didn't notice. Maybe other people did. I haven't heard. What are you thinking? Yeah, my wife spotted it. And at first, I'm like, now that's a star. And after staring at it for like 15 minutes and then I got out the binoculars, clearly there were red light, blue light or green light. flashing and it wasn't moving.

And after about 15 minutes, then it began to fade to it until it was almost gone. It was just like a little bit of a light and it would come back again. And it seemed to be, and I don't know, you know, Starlink, we've seen those fly overhead. Oh, yeah. I had to. They're beautiful when you see them. It's just like, you know, a line of gold in the sky, really. Yeah, this was just one.

And I just, I didn't know if anybody else had seen it. And so I was just curious. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll put it out there. Hey, you know the one thing is you're a money guy, right? Yeah. But you agree with me. I pay more attention to money guys than I do politicians these days. I think it's a wise way to run the world, don't you?

To really pay attention to what the money people are doing? Well, yeah. I mean, to keep it simple, how does Elon Omar go from no money to $30 million? Oh, it's just, you know, you come from Somali. you're just that good at trading. It's that good. You know, like all this stuff that Nick Shirley's doing with the fraud and everything else and then putting the vice president in charge.

Let's hope it doesn't go the route of root causes with illegal immigration. But having, I've been hearing some stuff in the background in regards to where this fraud thing could go. But I, you know, maybe your listeners have a different take. I believe that half our budget is just stolen through NGOs, money laundering. Oh, no, I don't disagree with you one bit. That's why there's such, that's why there is such a fight to not keep anybody, or to keep anybody from looking really underneath the hood of United States finance, really.

You know, on a bit of a kind of a separate issue, I heard the president say again the other day, He says, you know, if we could ever figure out this fraud thing, maybe we don't have to have income taxes. Maybe we can go to something else. And he keeps bringing that up. So I know it's in the back of his mind. It's been in the back of everybody's mind who pays taxes. So that's something I've been looking at. And in regards to having DHS shut down, if people want to understand, like, level of importance for politicians,

look at the things they fight against the hardest. And I know this is probably obvious to you. and probably all of your listeners. But when you look at the fight that Democrats are putting up to keep illegal aliens in this country over everything else, including the public safety, you can't mistake it for anything else. They realize this is their future if the Democratic Party expects to exist. They can't have the say that path.

they can't stop the money laundering. Yep. And they can't, and they, they will do everything they can to keep illegal aliens here so they can eventually get enough power to just give them all amnesty. Those are, it's permanent powers. You know, all your listeners know, I'm sure. But they're willing to fight to the death at this point. And it's there for everybody to see. Yeah.

And we need to be fighting to the death in the opposite direction for the SAVE Act, even though it may not be perfect. By the way, to your point, though, about, you know, the fraud in the situation. situation. Look at this latest prosecution in Metford that came out with the gentleman, the Mexican nationally illegal alien who's accused of funneling $15, 14, $15 million of money laundered cash to Mexicans, to Mexican cartels, essentially, through the businesses here in Southern Oregon. And he's being charged with that. And now I don't know if he's guilty, but there's a lot of smoke there. But yeah, more of the work Americans can't do. I got to run because I'm on a time on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. We'll talk more tomorrow, okay, Matt.

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