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I'll, if you're watching on Facebook live, I'll hold it up. There's a, you know, crappy shed in the back, and it's by the golf course by the fence, and it says 86-47. So we have someone that's going out there and expressing definitely an anti-Trump take. Is that rising to the level of a threat? Should the sheriff stop in there? What are your thoughts about that? I tend to, you know, I'll admit I'm in the business.

I'm a free speech absolutist here, and I know that that sometimes, means that I have to say, you know, I hate it. I think the person's an idiot, but does it rise to the level of a crime? I don't know. These are the kind of questions they were kind of running through right now. Well, I'll give you an example right now. I despise the view. I think everything about ABC's The View is just a, I just think that the crew there is pretty much a disgusting pieces of excrement as far as humanity goes. That being said, I actually am against the FCC going after them to the Federal Communications Commission. To me, I always think that the solution to idiots shooting their mouth off is to shoot your mouth off back.

But maybe I'm wrong about that, and it's a different time, but I'm happy to take your calls in Brian. I think Brad's on the road here right now. Brad, you've been waiting here. Go ahead, and I'd like to get your take on it. Good morning. Good morning, Bill. Over 35 years. And when we 86 somebody, we were asking to leave, stay out of more bar.

We didn't want their business. But it never ever came to where, you know, we're 86 a year, we're going to kill you. It never got to where we hated them that bad. That was never, we just wanted them to go drink someplace else. So they don't spend a lot of time. Give this guy his little five, ten minutes part of fame and let it go on. Yeah.

The more publicity they give this guy, the more that somebody else is going to want to do it and do it. I remember down in California when they had the high speed chases and they had the helicopter and they were showing it for 20, 30 minutes. on TV, get 15, 20, 30 minutes of faith. Don't give that to them anymore. It is what it is and, you know, move on. They make it a bigger deal than what it is and more people want to have their on air and on television and that.

Okay. All right. Hey, I appreciate Brad. Thanks for calling and giving a perspective on that, the 8647 controversy. We grab next line here on KMD. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Hello.

Hello. Hi, hi, Jane. Go ahead. Okay, have they ever thought about getting permission from the golf course and put a sign up facing that person's property that says 86 U? Hmm. Well, I don't know if they thought about that. Hey, but you know, that is kind of interesting. Maybe Dutcher Creek and what they can do is go up there and just put a big board covering up the sign from the fence. How about that? Well, if you put the 86 U, then you're going to know if that guy considers it a threat.

then it was a threat. If he doesn't consider it a threat, he doesn't really pay attention to it, then it's not a threat. Okay, all right. Thanks for the call there, Jane, 7705633. We're talking about the, the, do we want to call it the Dutcher Creek dirt bag? You know, with the 86-47? Is it a big deal?

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and people, I think rightly, certainly upset about it. Does it rise to the level of a crime, though? What do you think got to be done, if anything? Can the Republic withstand Trump-Dorange syndrome liberals, I would assume, I guess, that they're going out with a spray can and then spraying 86-47? Can we handle this? Or is there a problem given the number of assassination attempts, which has happened, have happened with him? Does that make an exception? and should we be a little more concerned?

Or, you know, am I being a... Am I being unwise, you know, thinking that, you know, free speech, that the United States can handle free speech. We can handle what goes on with the view, too. And, of course, they can be very entertaining in their stupidity. Sometimes stupid is good. But let me go back to the phones. Francine, you wanted the way in on the 8647, the Joe County 8647.

Good morning. Yeah, hi, Bill. Well, you know, language, words and terminology, it changes over time. Depending on how it's being used and it just, it gets, it absorbs new meaning. You know, I mean, you remember the gay 90s? And not that you were there, but, you know, the term. Yes, yes, I remember. They had like, you know, soda jerks and all sorts of things.

The gay 90s and then it turned into something completely different, right? Right. I mean, you know, all that meant was that they were just having a lovely time. Yes. That was the reference. Yes. And then it became like, you know, you were attracted to the opposite. You're a man attracted to the same sex, you know.

But that's the same word. And it completely turned it around. And it's just because people used it that way. I'm not sure how it evolved into meaning that. All right. So take it then to the 86 controversy. Does 86 truly mean, I mean, is it only in the soprano world that it? 86 means you kill someone or is this a wider, a wider influence than I'm aware of?

Oh, okay. Let me ask you a question. Is that where people, it came on TV to mean that? I don't know. I've never watched an episode of The Sopranos, if you can believe that. Never. Oh, okay. Well, I'm just curious.

If it was used in a movie, you know it's going to affect all of society. Sure, sure. Yeah. Or something. But it's, so, I mean, I used to tend bar and, yeah. I've 86 people. You know, I mean, when people misbehave and cause trouble, and, you know, you throw them out, you don't want them anymore. And so in terminology, technically it shouldn't mean kill, but if people are interpreting it as that, then it will take on that meaning.

Then it rises to it, and you think it should be then considered the threat? Is that what you're saying then? I just, well, I think it's in really bad taste. I don't have an opinion, like, should it be considered a threat or not? I don't really know. I'm just watching this evolves, you know. It's just, it's very, very strange, but it's coming from people who are so self-centered and so sure that they are the only ones in the world that are right, and everybody else is just, you know, if they don't go along, they should be pushed out of the way. They don't have rights. They don't have anything, you know, because everything has to be the way the left sees it. And they're like that. That's, that's who they are.

All right. So that's what we're up again. All right. I appreciate your opinion on that. And that's why we have it open to the Southern Oregon jury, 7705633. If you're on hold, I will get right to you. 770K. What is your take on 86-47?

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We will have the news coming up here in just a moment. Okay, 7705-633. We've been talking about the 86-47 sign in Joe County. Now, I've been on the record, and even back when James Comey was first charged over, the 86-47 seashell stuff, I thought it was nonsense. And I still think it's nonsense. I think it's thin gruel. I think it's very poor taste. I think we know what someone is meaning, but knowing what someone is meaning, does that rise to the level of a crime?

This is one of the questions I would toss out there to you. just like I hate the view, not hate, like, viscerally, but I wouldn't cross the street to meet any of them other than to maybe a bunch of idiots, sorry, that kind of thing. Can we withstand this current attack of 86-47, or do you think it is something that you think has a stronger, more serious bent to it? Just one guy, and let's talk with you.

Good morning, KMED, how is this? Hey, good morning, Bill. This is Michael. Michael, you have a take on this particular issue here? Is it a big deal to you? Not where, where do you come down on this? Well, if you were trying to get somebody prosecuted saying, we're going to 86 you, are you going to just start defending your life at that point? Or is that even something? I mean, I laugh about it. Well, you know, well, I was wondering about that yesterday. Remember I was talking with the AI guy, the guy who was talking about AI and they're and they were developing the chip that will be used to read your thoughts, right? And I was only half-joking.

What happens if I think 86-47 does the AI then inform the FBI agent to come talk with me, you know, that kind of thing. Well, you know, the hypocrisy that I'm just blown away by is like you just, you go along with calling a whole class of people Amalek. That's perfectly fine. You got Laura Luma running around calling for Tucker Carlson to be killed. Nobody says a word about all that, but you're going to interpret 86 to me killing somebody when you couldn't get anybody to ever be prosecuted unless you had that, you know, a pre-crime, I don't know, unit. Yeah.

I just think it's so pathetic to see that. It's like that is pretty much, like you were saying, the end of the republic, you know, you got mandatory voting was pretty much a good sign. You want everybody to vote? I mean, I'm like, yeah, if you change the voting age to 25, I might agree with that. But if you're, you really want all those kids that have no clue what's going on in the world, they just follow the leader. You really want all them voting.

I just, wow. You know, that's part of the thing. You can't handle a, I just blows my mind. That's where we're at here on the right. We're talking about that. All right. Well, that's why I brought it up. I didn't think it's a big deal, but a lot of people do.

and I just want to understand. That's what we're here talking about. I appreciate the call, Michael. 770KMED, 770KMED. I should say, hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Morning, Bill.

Steve, in Sunny Valley. Hi, Steve. I think Francine was on to something. Words, meanings change. And it really doesn't matter what you think of it. It's what the listener thinks. I'm thinking the guy who shot up Steve Glees after hearing Bernie Sanders speech had a completely different take on Bernie's speech than Bernie did. That doesn't make

Bernie responsible. Right. And I think I'm a free speed absolutist. I believe everybody has the right to say anything they want. And there's a difference between speech and violence. Speech is not violence. And the other thing is I see flags everywhere. You know, you see the American flag, the left doesn't like it. The gay flag, there's a pride flag. The right doesn't like it. You see flags of the Dixieland battle flag. You see the swastika flag. What is permissible? I think the Supreme Court was right when they said burning a flag is speech,

and it doesn't matter what the flag is. Even if it's the American flag, it's not very patriotic, but speech is not violence. All right. I appreciate your opinion, too. Thank you. That's why we're taking it this morning on the Southern Oregon jury here. Good morning. Good morning.

Who's this? Hi. Good morning, this, Jim. Hi, Jim. I've taken away, Jim. What are you thinking? Well, I'm 70 years old, and I remember 86 way, way, way back. And I don't remember anybody ever using it for, you know, to kill somebody.

Do you believe, though, that 86 has evolved, though, to a different, to a different word entirely? Oh, well, like that, like that he was saying, you know, the words changed meanings as years go by. So they could probably use it for that if they want you. But my opinion on the whole thing is it's like these gangbangers want to tag everything. You know, just paint over the damn thing and go on with it. And it'll eventually go away. Thank you, Jim. 770 KMED.

Good morning. Hi. Who's this? Hello? Hello. Hi, who's this? Hey, Bill. This is John West.

Hi, John. Welcome. What are you thinking? Hey, so, you know, this is, we're... was a big conversation yesterday at the Republican Party office. We had a lot of people come in and out and a discussion, and it's kind of all over the board. You know, I look at it. What happens if your county address is 8,647, and you put a great big sign up, 8, 647. Oh, man.

You know, so, you know, I think it's the intent of the person and really where they're trying to take it. and I think we have to be careful because I think the courts will probably look at freedom of speech. You know, I see the protesters across the street by the courthouse holding a sign 8-6-4-7, just those four numbers. You know, I know what we're saying, what people is saying that that intent is to kill Trump or die Trump or whatever. But I think we have to be real careful or would we all say the same thing if we had four numbers for Biden or Harris? I just, you know, I'm a staunch Republican, always have been, always will be. But I believe in fairness. But I also believe, you know, we got to be careful that we don't take things too far.

All right. I appreciate you. Hey, John, why don't they ask you before you take off? Are they still cutting up your signs? Yes. Oh, you've got to be kidding me. Still? Nope, nope. They're destroying them. I put them up. I put up yard signs and they take them down. I put up new signs. They cut them up. The other day, they cut the elect out of part of the signs. It's just, it's it's just craziness. You know, let the voters decide. I'm not sure what these people think. It's obvious that they're not law-abiding citizens. because that is considered a crime. But, you know, I mean, at the end of the day, if the citizens decide they don't want me as their commissioner,

you know, they spoke and that's good. So, you know, that's where it should be. Yeah, we'll find out next week for sure, all right? Yes, sir. John, I appreciate the call. Thank you, as always. Okay. All right.

Let me grab a couple more here. There we've got a roll here. We've got to talk climate for a little bit here, a little pallet cleanser. Hi, good morning. Who's this? You know, Bill me? Yes, it is. Go ahead.

Hey, it's David. So I just have noticed a trend of, you know, after people vote for Trump, it seems like they get roped into doing things that they didn't support previously, and that could be with wars or the budget or whatever. But the one thing the right always complained about was having words redefined after they were in common usage. You know, I got told Eskimo is a racist word, and I had no racist intent when I used it. You know, that is very, that's a very interesting point, David.

I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Yeah, no one ever thought 86 meant to kill anyone, but it's like now we're running around like a bunch of little lefties, you know, trying to get words redefined, and it's like, you know, so I don't know. It's just, I've noticed that theme, you know, I voted for Trump one time in 2016, and I never voted for him again,

and I don't really dislike him more. I mean, I think the things he does are funny, but getting the supporters to go along with these things that, I mean, they're not, that's not who the right is. We don't run around trying to redefine words, get all offended and all offended. It just reminds you the Eskimo thing because, in other words, I've used it. After I used them, I've been notified.

They've been redefined, and I'm now a racist or something for using the word. And so 86 never meant to kill anyone. It's always meant to get picked out of a bar or whatever minor day did in the shower that I wish he'd elaborate on that got him trespass. Yeah, I didn't want to get, I didn't want to hear the details if you don't buy. I don't care, but. I just like the way he phrased and he said, whatever happened in the shower.

I don't know. Whatever happens in the shower stays in the shower, okay? All right. The imagination runs wild. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here in just a moment. And a climate change fact check. We'll have some of that on the way here. We'll be back to more of your calls coming up here

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Oh, but the climate, we can change. Just deindustrialize, and everything will be just fine. At least that's what we've been told for a number of years. That does appear to be crumbling. I wanted to talk with Chris Martz about this. Chris Marks is a meteorologist and science policy analyst for C-Fact. C-Fact, that is a committee for a constructive tomorrow, C-F-A-C-T, and the Heartland Institute, Competitive Enterprise Institute,

Energy and Environmental Legal Institute, a whole bunch of these people are involved in. I guess the monthly climate fact check. Isn't that the point here, Chris? Welcome to the show. Good morning. Thanks for having me on. All right.

So how long have you been a meteorologist? I just want to find out about that first. It's actually been a meteorologist for a year. Okay, good. Good. So what I wanted to talk with you about this morning here is we're in a drought out here on the West Coast, right? We've got drought, drought declarations every day, and the climate change folks are still going in that this is all human caused. and if we were just to deindustrialize and get rid of CO2 and get rid of animals and we don't have meat any longer, we would have a much cooler, much more peaceful kind of lifestyle.

That's it. All we have to do is deindustrialize and live in a mud hut. I think it's kind of what the take of it is, Chris. From a meteorologist's point of view, tell me what's right or wrong about where they're coming from. That's why we're going to do a – well, this is like a yearly climate fact check in this. case. But anyway, what are you thinking? Well, yeah, the drought out west is pretty bad. And of course, you know, you have tens of millions of people that rely on water, you know, for their drinking,

for bathing, for, you know, other functions. And so, you know, when you have a drought, and there's artificial reservoirs that have these water storage when they deplete or the snowpack that feed them deplete, it's going to cause some societal, you know, economic problems. Sure. Yeah. Well, what we do, here to your point here is that the reservoirs we have had, we like to blow up dams out here too. So if the water's falling, we don't want to capture it because

it's bad. Fish, whatever. Okay? So, you understand that. Obviously, a drought's going to have a whole lot of problems and stuff, but droughts are naturally reoccurring interval of weather and finite variability

in that region. You know, you can go back thousands of years, and you can find droughts. And you can find droughts that are far worse than this. Really? Now, oh, yeah. The worst drought on record that we have in our helioclimate reconstructions is the medieval megadreought, and that lasted about 400 years between 9,300 and 1,300 AD.

So it was about 400 years of prolonged drought. And we know this because of tree ring reconstructions. And we also found, the scientists also found, it was a 2012 paper, they found a In the Sierra Nevada, there's this lake called Cliff Lake, and they found a tree stump that was about five feet below the present-day water line. And that tree grew for 50 years when the water levels were five feet lower than they are today around that same time. So the lake was far drier than it is now around that same time. around that same time.

So it was a lot drier for that period. And this drought in particular is a lot of this been caused by this, and actually in most of the countries in drought, and this is pretty much caused by the repetitive La Nina state we've been in. So when you have sea level pressures higher than normal near Cahidi and lower than normal near Dorwin, that strengthens east-to-west pressure gradient intensifies the easterly trade winds across the Pacifics to get a lot of upwelling of cooler waters off the coast of South America.

You have cooler waters. It's not going to evaporate as much. You reduce your moisture transport into the United States, and that's what causes the drought. Now, we're headed into an El Nino, and so pressure is falling near Tahiti, rise near Darwin, and so that causes a weakening or partial reversal of the normal pressure gradient, and causes trade winds to weaken across the equatorial Pacific, so you have warmer water that slashes back eastward, and so you have warmer water, you get more of apparation, you get more rainfall and snowfall as well across the United States. So this should help to alleviate those drought conditions as we head into the second half of the year,

then into next year as well. Okay, so the El Nino helps us get more water here out on the West Coast, and the La Ninaina makes it drier, is that? Is that kind of the simplistic way of looking at it right now here, Chris? Absolutely. That's the simplistic way of looking at it. All right. I was reading an article in Washington Post, and they were talking about that we were being set up for a super. I forget, though, if it was a super la Nina or a super Il Niño that they thought was going to be happening.

And they were talking about it being a, that we could be setting up this August for a super drought, like what happened in 1877. and why I thought that was so interesting, and I don't know if you agree with this or not, is that they said that we had this horrendous drought back in the 1870s in the United States and also a lot of the world, and it led to a famine that killed millions of people. And they said, well, are we prepared for something like that? And to me, it was kind of like the climate church let the cat out of the bag by admitting that, well, back then we didn't have SUVs or the fossil fuels or anything else. But yet we still had these massive weather changes that ended up killing lots of people.

And, you know, what did it, right? Because the whole idea is that everything we're doing is what's causing this. And I don't know if you have an opinion on that or not, but I thought I'd toss it out at you. Meteorologist Chris Martz? What do you say? Well, yeah, I've seen the headlines and stuff talking about how there could be a super al-Nino. And what this means is it's a very strong al-Nino. A few surface temperatures are well above average in the equatorial Pacific.

And we've had a few of them before. We've had the one in 1877, 78. There was one in 1982, 83, 1997-98, and 2015-2016. And then we've also had, there's also a couple during the, I think, during the 16th century, if I recall correctly. So they happen periodically. They're not too, too common. But typically when they do happen, they do cause drought and stuff, especially if parts of Asia and South America, there's a lot of drought that can lead to famine and stuff.

And so that was a big thing that happened in 1877. Now, granted you, during that time, you know, we don't have the technology we do now. So we had something like this happened today. We could definitely survive that, and we can mitigate that very easily. In the United States, though, I'm pretty sure that this would actually help reduce the drought that we've had because I remember we had in 2015-2016. We had a very warm and wet winter that we had across the country. So I do think that, at least for our sake, it's going to be the drought that we've been having

should reverse and be alleviated as we head into the second half of the year. I wonder, Chris, if one of the challenges we on the West Coast, by the way, what section of the country do you live in, if you don't mind me asking? I live in the southeast in Alabama. Okay, so you let me, okay, great, great state. All right. I wonder if one of the challenges that we as humans have done is that we ended up settling the West Coast out here in the West Coast and the Northwest as an example. And from the way I've looked at it as far as climate goes, it's always been, I mean, water's always been a challenge, hasn't it?

I remember reading a story and I forget where it was. it was one of those scientific American type things, but they had talked about pioneers going out to the northwest and the west coast at that point. They were settling towns, and the Native Americans, the Indian tribes, would just say, oh, no, we don't live over in those areas. And the pioneers would ask them, well, why don't you want to live there?

And they said, no water. Well, there was water there at that time. And it was sort of, they were intimating that the time frame that they were looking at as far as, water and the availability of water over generations was much longer than maybe we people that have moved out here and settled the West. Do you know if there's any evidence to that or if there was just kind of an anecdotal sort of story that it's always been kind of dry out on the West?

Well, it's usually always been dry to our periods where it's been wet. I don't know about that story in particular, but I'll talk about that. That's interesting. But I do know that one of the reasons that the Spanish didn't come north into California until 1500s and stuff. They waited about 200 years. It's partially because at the time when they first, you know, got into Mexico, it was too dry to sustain agriculture in modern-day California.

It still largely is except for like the Central Valley, but it was much drier during that time. So, and that was part of the coming off the end of the medieval megadrought. So this was part of, you know, there was also Native American tribes and stuff too. They didn't want to deal with, but the, the lack of agricultural sustainability in modern-day California at the time prevented them from traveling north and settling. So it's always been very dry there.

But there's periods where it's been drier than it is now. And so, but yeah, the Native Americans were very familiar with that stuff. Yeah, yeah, and they would tend to, since they'd lived in the area a longer time, you know, they're going like, hey, yeah, there's water there right now, but we've been here, and it's A lot of times it's not. And I can understand that happening when you look at a with a longer time horizon or experience, that sort of thing. Now, when you're doing the monthly climate fact check, what's the latest fact check that sea fact in you as the meteorologist and science policy analysts for it? What is the latest kind of destruction of the narrative are you working on right now that we need to be aware of as we hear and see these weather and climate news stories coming out around here?

What are you saying, Chris? Well, there was a few really good ones this past month, because for a while, because of the war in Iran and a bunch of other things going on, the climate thing is kind of taking a backseat. Yeah. And so, but this month I had a lot of fun talking about this. And one of my favorite articles was my favorite claims. There was this lady. Her name is Theragabluski. She's the Secretary of State of Wisconsin.

And she's currently running for Lieutenant Governor on the Democratic ticket. Well, she posted a video on Facebook talking about – it was during a hail storm recently. It was back in April. And she said this is climate change. She said that Republicans playing climate change isn't real, but this golf ball size of hill in my front yard is happening. This isn't normal, and we can't keep ignoring our environment. And she posted this video on Facebook. So it was really over-dramatic.

And so when I looked at the data on this, I went to the National Weather Service, or NOAA's Storm Events Database. And I looked at all the Hale reports in Wisconsin over the last 26 years, because only since about 2000, because of the radar capabilities and StormSpotter Network,

is our data really good. It's homogenous. there's no – because if you go back to the 1950s, there's going to be an increase because there's an increase in people or there's an increase in reporting. Radar's gotten better, so you've got to look at that period where you have consistent data. So I looked at Hale reports over an inch and over an inch and a half, and there's no trend at all in the last 26 years. The highest years were back in 2011 and 2006 for a lot of those – a lot of those hail reports and stuff. So there's no evidence that hail has gotten worse or that climate change causes. And in fact, you know, if you were to take this at face value with the whole global warming narrative, you know, if the Earth's warming, while the freezing level is going to be higher in the atmosphere, so your hail, if it forms, it's going to have a larger warm layer to melt through before it hits the ground.

And so you're going to have smaller hail sizes and you're going to have less hail frequency. So you can always explain, explain a lot of this. So my question would be is that what a lot of people on the right who are not into the climate change narrative will say is that, hey, this is all weather. And then they said, no, no, no, this is climate. What is the difference between weather and climate in your point of view, Chris? Well, weather is short term. It's day to day or hour to hour, day to day, week to week, month and month, variability, even year to year. climate is much long-term, is long-term weather.

It's a statistical description of the mean and variability of the weather, basically, and all the other components of the climate, such as glaciers, sea ice, stuff like that. But climate is long-term. It's over a period of what the standard measurement is, is 30 years or more. It's kind of arbitrary, but that's what scientists. So trends for over 30 years or more. Right. Okay. That makes sense sense. What are the trends that we have in the United States that we can observe? Are we still coming out of the ice age or are we in danger of going back into an ice age? What are the variability kind of indicating at this point in our lives? Yeah. So the average temperature, you know, you take the TMA, the maximum temperature, minimum temperature divided by two. That's how you get the average temperature. Average temperature has gone up a little bit over the last 100 years. That's largely due to rising minimum temperatures, and that's a big artifact of urbanization.

Maximum temperatures have not really increased all that much, and where they have, you know, can maybe that's due to global warming of some, you know, whatever the cause of it is. I think that CO2 emissions have some effect on it. That's just the physics, but it's not a crisis. It's nothing that we need to worry about, and, you know, radically change our energy policy over. So there's that. But we look at things like extreme weather events. while the number of hurricanes making landfall since 1851,

this is when we have data to no increase, and major hurricanes have not increased. In fact, the number of major hurricanes making landfall have decreased by about 50% since the 1930s. The number of violent tornadoes, EF4, EF5, have decreased by about 50% since 1954 when reliable real-time observations began. There's been no increase in hail over the last 30%. years in terms of size or a number of events. Flash flooding events have not increased over the last 30 years.

We've had really good data on that. River floods have decreased largely by a little bit, not by a whole lot, but look at the entire country. It's a slight decrease. Let's see. The number of heat waves have decreased by about 18 percent since the 19-100. The number of cold waves have decreased by about 30 percent. So overall, the climate's getting milder. not getting more extreme. How interesting because you wouldn't know that every time there's,

you know, the breathless headlines. That's why I wanted to ask. I'm talking about, yeah, Chris Martz is the meteorologist and science policy analyst for C-Fact, the monthly climate fact check going on. Hey, do you have a moment or two, take a call or two, maybe a question? Are you good with that? Do you have time? Yeah. Okay, good. I didn't know if you were up against, you know, another interview in a few minutes or not. Hey, good morning. You're on with Chris Marks, Who's this? Good morning. Good morning, Bill. This is Prantheon. I have a question for Chris. Sure. Whenever I try to find, I go online, you know, our search ability has been so thwarted now these days.

You know, they tell us what we want to know without really giving us anything. I just put in climate change as normal, and I got one, two, three, four, just one after another. what do you say to people who believe the climate is changing but don't see it as human cause? You know, stuff like that. I can't find anything to, you know, to present something to somebody that doesn't get it. Do you have any resources you can recommend? And I didn't catch what if you have a website. Bill was talking kind of fast.

Sorry. Thanks for the question. And thanks for listening. So, yeah, that's a big problem. When you search for anything climate-related or anything that's kind of controversial in nature, you look up on Google, they're going to suppress the results, and they're going to favor, you know, mainstream sources like PBS and Wikipedia and they're going to go at the, or NASA, they're going to go with the official narrative on a lot of things. And some of that stuff's correct. You know, a lot of stuff that you read, like if you read a lot of stuff from the state of Noah, the National National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Front. it, most of it's pretty good. I agree with a lot of this. That's a good resource for a lot of things.

However, when it comes to things that are a bit more nuanced, we really want to have a good physical understanding of some of the science. There are some websites I do recommend. One of them is Dr. Roy Spencer. It's a Dr. Roy Spencer.com. He is a meteorologist and climatologist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, right down the street from me, actually. and since moving down here, I've had the pleasure of getting to know him. He has a great resource. Judith Curry.com. She's a climatologist. She was a former professor at Georgia Tech.

There's also my website, chrismartweather.com. I do a lot of really in-depth articles. And other great resource, I would say, is climate realism.com, which is part of the Heartland Institute. Yeah. Oh, climate realism. That sounds good. Yeah. Is Marks, is your last name, M-R-K-S?

I think it's M-A-R-T-Z, isn't that right? T-Z, oh, Mark. Yeah, I'm glad I asked. Chris Marce. Francy, good question. I appreciate you making it here. And I'm kind of running out of time with Chris. That's fine.

Thank you. But, hey, Chris, I really appreciate that. And thank you for the websites, because you're right. If you do any kind of searching for it, you do kind of get sent down the standard narrative rabbit hole. It gets very difficult. And I'm going to put all of those suggestions up there, including your own personal website about that. and that is, once again, Chris Martz, or Chris Martzweather.com? Is that what that is?

Yep. Okay, very good. Chris, a pleasure. And thanks for having joined the show this morning and sharing a little bit of climate realism, the fact check for April and May, okay? You take care now. Thanks for having me on. You betcha.

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think is helping out a lot of people. We had a good conversation on artificial intelligence yesterday. Tomorrow, it could be alien intelligence. Kent Hicken-Lively is going to join me at 7.30 on Conspiracy Theory. Thursday because we've had all of these, these conversations, all this information being released from the federal government. And I don't necessarily want to always just peck at the, you know, the UFO shiny object

going out there. But Kent's book, and I'm about three-fourths through it, I bought a couple or I bought a copy of it a few weeks ago when I last had him on. And I have really enjoyed it because you can tell that he's kind of a skeptic. You know, he's not someone who is sitting there just going, you know, on, you know, on absolutely every story. And I think he's much more honest than many people who are into the UFO grift, if you want to call it that. And, you know, are we being programmed, essentially by a global government to get ready for the aliens, you know, the demons,

and then, you know, you get, you know, the preachers who have been warned about this, get ready for the demons, get ready for the UFOs, get ready for this. And are we just being sold a nice little distraction, a nice little distraction policy. But I'll talk with Kent tomorrow morning. And that ought to be a great talk. I'm always looking forward to that. I think he's really, really good straight head on, you know, on such a subject. And we've got to pay attention because we're being conditioned, I think, for sure. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Morning, Bill. It's Lauren. It's Lauren. Lauren, a pleasure. And what is on your mind, It has to do with the ballot.

I was out of town Thursday, Friday last week, and Monday I was recuperating from getting back in. And so I don't know if you ever put out anything. I'm trying to figure out who to vote for for U.S. senator on the Republican ballot. I have no clue. I would say pick a, just pick a name you like, look in the road and just see who. There's not a chance, though. There really isn't a chance. I didn't think so either.

Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like the sacrificial lamb. to go up against Jeff Merkley. Probably the person who may be close to most credible might be state senator David Brock Smith. At least he's a state senator. He's a state senator on the coast, though. Is there a lot of money? Because, you know, that's going to be a $13, $15, $20 million race if you're going to have any

credible chance of moving forward on that. I hate saying that, but that's just the reality of where we find ourselves. I got one other thing. before you go. I'm going to remind the people, turn the ballot over. I was just going to do that. I've already been hearing talk here, Lauren, that there are people, I had one person who wrote me, said, well, where's measure 120 and where's the RVTD thing you were

talking about? It's on the other side. Yeah, I hear an Eagle Point. We don't have RDTG, so we don't have that to deal with. But the other thing about it, if you happen to be in precinct 8 of Eagle Point, my name's on that ballot, Lauren W. Myers, and now you know who I am. So put my dog there. I think I get it regardless.

But anyway, thank you, Bill. All right. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Lauren. I appreciate it. Good morning. This is the Bill Meyer Show. Who's this?

Hey, good morning, Bill. Keith out in Cave Junction. Keith and CJ. I'm doing well. Anytime I hear from you is great. I was an interesting conversation with Chris, and I was hoping to ask him a question. Yeah, sure. The correlation between these El Nino and El Nina events, where you have a cooling and a heating,

I wanted to know what was the trigger difference in temperature, the triggers one way or the other. And I wanted to ask him if there was any correlation, this is geology, any correlation with the middle ocean risk in that region, because I have for 40 years since 1983. God, I'm doing my math bad, have heard this correlation existed, and nobody ever talked about it. Basically, it's like eating water on your stove top. Oh. You know, the mid-ocean rifts. It's like the volcanic event, excuse me, vents, what is it, 16?

miles off of Cape Blanco. Yeah, I know that there was a underwater volcano that ended up affecting global temperatures. I forget where that was a few years ago, but you had all of that, that not just the heat, the heat, of course, heating up the, you know, the water. We're talking about, even though as huge as the ocean is, when you have a volcano, there's a lot of energy. You know, it's coming out. This is a question for Greg, if I remember right, right, Stone? Yeah.

I have another comment that was peaked by previous conversation. I was in Alaska back in the 90s, and I had the pleasure of working with Eskimos and, you know, four-foot-tall, workaholic people. And they called themselves Moes. They have a sense of humor. Maybe that's not true 100, 200 years ago when Europeans. first started interacting with them. But as of the 1990s, this, you know, Greg Euler, yeah, kind of that. Yeah, it's all right, but I'll try to just grasp the basic gist of your call here.

So the Eskimos called themselves Moes, you said? This, Greg Eulich. I mean, he was, I was stumbling over Greg because of Greg Wrightstone. And so he was a short-order cook on a gold prospect that I was working on out in the must-age south of Galena and east of Caltag, if you do your research and your geography, in middle of nowhere. And they call themselves amongst themselves mo. Huh. Yeah, I've not heard that. Keith, we'd have to invite some people back on to explore that further.

I can't really, you know, confirm or deny that. But I appreciate you, always. Thanks for checking in, though, all right. Okay, let's catch up on Fox News here in just a moment. And then I'm going to be talking with Tom Clavin. Tom Clavin writes history the way it should be written in school, exciting, stimulating. And maybe a bit revisionist, too. We'll kick it around here. It's the last stands of Custer, Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, next on the Bill Meyer show.