Dan Wootton Outspoken - BBC NEWS IN CRISIS WITH NEWSNIGHT AXED AFTER 46 YEARS AS MIKE GRAHAM EXPOSES FAKE NEWS EPIDEMIC

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: BBC News plunged into crisis as bosses plot to axe its flagship show Newsnight – once home to the legendary Jeremy Paxman but now home to deranged leftist panel discussions – as part of a £500 million cost saving drive. It comes after a series of on-air disasters under new host Victoria Derbyshire and a bunch of bumbling leftist fools like Matt Chorley disgraced the British Bashing Corporation. Newsnight even recently allowed fallen Sly News star Kay Burley to defend Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor as a war hero. The good news is that Burley’s Substack launch has flopped – she has half the subscribers of Huw Edwards. Unlike Mike Graham, whose book Fake News revealing the decline of the MSM is now a Sunday Times bestseller as his independent YouTube breakfast show becomes a phenomenon. And the real good news is that he’s with us for the entire show. PLUS: The decline of Mike’s former Talk TV breakfast show, as Jeremy Kyle conducts the most cringe worthy interview I’ve ever seen in the MSM, as he turns propagandist for Nigel Farage. AND: Andy Burnam’s David Brent act reaches Ukraine as he becomes the latest Prime Minister to humiliate Britain on a global stage. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry launch a ludicrous new public attack over the Daily Mail reporting surrounding their return to the UK, but once again it’s the Delusional Duke and Fake Duchess misleading the public. We’ll have all the latest with former royal courtier Rob Shuter. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and a bunch of bumbling leftist fools like Matt Shirley who have disgraced the British Bashing Corporation. Nigel Farage has said in response to this, we should respond to this with white, cold rage. We want to apologise for an error we made on last night's programme. We mistakenly quoted the Reform UK leader Nigel Farage as saying people should respond to his death with a white, cold rage.

And we fight. We fight like him. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. And that line about it we fight and fight like hell is actually later in the speech, and yet your video makes it look like those two things came together. He was the man, remember, who always got the public mood, who tagged the lazy label of elite on those who disagreed. He should understand that public mood now, one of fury, contempt and anguish.

Newsnight even recently allowed Fallen Sly News stars Kay Burley to defend Andrew Mountbatten Windsor as a war hero. Victims of Epstein, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and Galane Maxwell. So we would encourage anyone, please, if you've got any information, to come forward to us. And these are British. They are British. Yeah. Okay.

And we should accept that he was a war hero. We should just throw that in. Thank you. Alex Davis Jones. Lisa Phillips, thank you very much. Well, the good news today is that Burley's substack launch has flopped. She has half the subscribers, half the popularity of the BBC. Pee-Pido Hugh Edwards.

Unlike Mike Graham, whose book fake news, revealing the decline of the MSM is now a Sunday Times bestseller as his independent YouTube breakfast show becomes a phenomenon. And the real good news, not fake news, is that Mike Graham is with us for the entire show. Also breaking today the decline of Mike's former Talk TV Breakfast Show as Jeremy Kyle conducts the most cringeworthy interview I have ever seen. in the MSM as he turns full-on propagandist, for even, I think, a slightly embarrassed Nigel Farage. I know about this, Georgia Maloney.

What have you done to upset her? She says that Kemi Badenock shouldn't do a pact with reform. Does she? How do you know that? Well, I'm just telling you a question I was asked to ask that was in a paper. It was reported today. I don't know. I don't know what they call you because it's all toash to me. You speak common man's language in my humble. And that's why I think millions continue to believe that you're the one man that can change

what the hell's going on in this mad world. It's an absolute pleasure, mate. Thank you. Also coming up on the show today, Andy Burnham's David Brent Act reaches Ukraine as he becomes the latest Prime Minister to humiliate Britain on a global stage. And King Charles accused of lying

over Prince Harry's UK return as Andrew Neal launches a whip-around to keep Megan Markle and Montecito. Oh, I think I'd be putting some money into that one. We'll have the real story on the growing security scandal connected to the Sussex's Tour. then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show,

former Royal Courteer Rob Shooter on deck today. Now, Mike and I have both nominated for the worst Britain in the world today. Oh, look at that choice. So Mike has gone for Joylin Mon after his spectacular cock-up on Jason Ardey. He transferred the ownership of his Good Lord project to a Jersey Purpose Trust while retaining significant control specifically to enjoy charity-like benefits. that's Mike says, without charity commission oversight. He's also nominated Red Rainer the Tax Evader, Angela,

for having a double standard when it comes to second job. She said no one in Parliament should have them. But she did, and she does. And I've gone for Mike Tap. Do you remember him? Sort of starma loser, but he's back on the scene now. And he's saying that Prince Harry is a hero. Prince Harry is a hero who we should pay for the security costs to the tune.

of five million pounds. No, thank you, Mike Tap. So you can get voting in the live chat on YouTube right now. We'll bring your superchats at the end of the show today. But now, let's go. The death of the mainstream media is not exaggerated. We are witnessing it in real time. Only the life support of the poll tax, otherwise known as the license fee, keeps the British bashing corporation in business at all. But even its golden goose shows are no longer safe, with the Sun and the Daily Mail to equally fading legacy media brands. It has to be said,

both reporting today that the leftist nightly panel show Newsnight, once home to the great Jeremy Paxman, set to be axed in a 500 million pound cost-saving drive next year. Now, this story is so much more significant than a show watched by just a dwindling number of Westminster die-hard losers because it represents the changing face of the British media, as independents take over from the corrupt establishment mouthpieces

who have systematically lied to you. Lied about Brexit, lied about COVID, lied about mass immigration, lied about Trump, lied about fraud, lied about vaccines, lied about Tommy, and now lie about Rupert Lowe and restore Britain. So here is the Suns exclusive, but I can back up, by the way, that this story is very real, because for a number of months, BBC insiders have told me that news night is fighting for survival under Victoria Derbyshire with what is now a shrunken panel discussion show nearly being killed off multiple times by executives and the end is now in sight. So the Sun reporting that Newsnight staff fear the BBC current affairs show will be axed by the end of next year. Beeb bosses must say £500 million and sources say they are determined to preserve the news at six and news at 10.

Newsnight's team has fallen from 57 to 23. 23 people! to produce a panel discussion show, my God, after its special investigations team was axed. And staff fear, it is a sitting duck as focus shifts to short, shareable social media clips and eye players. One told the son, everyone is concerned for news night and how it will fare in the next cuts. We've been warned there are likely budget reductions and revisions next year. It's worrying time. The new Director General has made it clear that success is down to clicks.

In June, the BBC merged the production of Newsnight and Sunday with Laura Coonsberg. Now hosted by Derbyshire, the show has been cut from 45 minutes to 30. Honestly, why bother? The BBC said, since its re-format, it has significantly increased its audiences and won an award. The BBC needs to save £500 million over the next three years. News will play a contributing role to those savings. So, in other words, I'm just going to translate, yep, we're axing it. We're axing it to save money.

No denial from the BBC. So this is hugely significant. However, if this journalistic, fallen journalistic institution, right, was a private company or a private program, it would have been shut down years ago. I mean, let's just think in recent weeks, Newsnight has had to apologize for disgracefully and purposefully twisting Nigel Farage's words over the Henry Novak killing. Nigel Farage has said in response to this, we should respond to this with white cold rage. Do you agree with it? No.

We saw riots on the streets of this country. Is there a risk that when Nigel Farge is talking about white cold rage, is there a risk of that happening again? What is the risk if more people follow Nigel Farage's appeal for white cold rage? Before we start tonight, we want to apologise for an error we made on last night's point. programme. In an interview about the murder of 18-year-old Henry Novak, we mistakenly quoted the Reform UK leader Nigel Farage as saying people should respond to his death with a white, cold rage. To be clear, Mr Farage actually said pure cold rage, as had been stated earlier in the programme. We apologise to him for this mistake. Last night's news night has been removed from

Eyeplayer and BBC Sounds. Tonight. But they remain an activist organisation because Last week, Newsnight let two guests deride Restore Britain as both far right and racist with virtually no pushback. Then he looks to his right and breathing down his neck is Rupert Lowe's Restore Party, a far right party home to all kinds of xenophobes and racists. I mean, Newsnight's idea of a dream guest now is the hard leftist drag queen Bimini Babes or their former staff member. Count Binface. Obviously we need flats, we need accommodations. But then also these places often are in places like Soho or somewhere that isn't known to be necessarily a residential area.

And then the big flats are put up. And, you know, it takes out the soul and the heart and the grit of it. And I think it's so important to have that. And, you know, I think there needs to be licensing. Licensing needs to go into the agent of change law. So, you know, I think flats or developers should pay for soundproofing. I think it shouldn't come at the cost of the venue. I think the venues are there already, and I think that if a person is going to develop somebody somewhere,

they should put the proper soundproofing in so that it won't affect the people. Why don't you bin off the bin on Newsnight now? We know that your name is John, and we know really a lot about you. Isn't this time for serious times to bin off the bin? Oh, here we go. I mean, has anyone here seen Return of the Jedi? Nobody wants to know what's underneath a recycle, and it's disgusting. It's absolutely putrefying.

No, no, if you want to be serious with me, I'll tell you, you want to talk to Count Bintface, and then you get me on Newsnight and you start trying to deconstruct a character, I would say, what are we doing here on a program which used to construct proper investigative journalism, and now is a souped up podcast, Paddy? Maybe that's one of the only truthful things Count Bintface has ever said. Newsnight was the show that allowed Adam Bolton. Do you remember this to call for the end of my career? while demanding a total shutdown of Gb News without any balance whatsoever.

Both of them, I think, have damaged themselves by doing this, and therefore we say, well, why was GB News doing it? And, you know, I have to say, I think the complaints have piled up against GB News. I think there is a delicate and important broadcast ecology in this country. I think, you know, GB News is trying to bust that ecology, and frankly, what Offcom should do is shut it down. I get shut down R.T. But some of this has been far more serious.

Before the controversial BBC Panorama edit of Trump's January the 6th speech that has led the US president to sue the Beeb, Newsnight was already at it. We're going to walk down anyone you want, but I think right here we're going to walk down to the capital and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. We fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. Now, they were actually called out live on air by Mick Mulvaney, the former acting White House chief of staff. He pulled them out, but they completely let it slide failing to learn their lesson about fake news. Watch. Donald Trump would galvanize and encourage that crowd and stalked that crowd. And I wonder if you actually believe, I think that he actually believes in democracy.

Your video actually sliced, spliced together the presentation. He said, we're going to go down and we're going to cheer on our senators and our house members. And then it actually goes on to saying some of them we might not be able to. And that line about it we fight and fight like hell is actually later in the speech. And yet your video makes it look like those two things came together. That's the type of messaging here that so many people in my country find frustrating. And who can forget, news night at the show, where Emily Maitliss proved her hard-left credentials for hosting the fake news. news agents by delivering partisan monologues like this.

Good evening. Dominic Cummings broke the rules. The country can see that, and it shocked the government cannot. The longer ministers and Prime Minister tell us he worked within them, the more angry the response to this scandal is likely to be. He was the man, remember, who always got the public mood, who tagged the lazy label of elite on those who disagreed. He should understand that public mood now, one of fury, contempt and anguish. It's also the place that the fallen sly news star Kay Burley recently insulted Epstein victims by insisting that Andrew Mountbatten Windsor should be remembered as a war hero.

Victims of Epstein, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and Galane Maxwell so we would encourage anyone please if you've got any information to come forward to us. And these are British? They are British, yeah. Okay. And we should accept that you're not. as a war hero. We should just throw that in. Thank you. Alex Davis Jones.

Lisa Phillips, thank you very much. So following her act seen from Sly News, how is Cape Early's reinvention as some type of campaigning, independent journalist going? Twice as badly as Hugh Edwards come back. With Gido Forks reporting today, her substack has amassed fewer than 500 subscribers in a month. They report that her explosive return,

return to the political scene with her talkative substack has caused quite a splash. Oh wait. No, it hasn't. Burley left Sky News in February 2025, but has returned to the British media space with a substack and numerous ex-posts per day, often issuing Sarky attacks on reform people. Her blog, Burley Alive, has been up for over a month and seen 10 articles, but it doesn't seem to be capturing the public imagination, despite Burley's constant self-promotion. One piece of analysis concluded, I am not tribal with my politics and of course immigration should be debated robustly with real numbers and real life expectations, but there is a wide gap between having that debate and creating an atmosphere where anyone who looks or sounds foreign becomes a target

for someone else's anger. For her efforts, Burley has only 428 subscribers free and paid at the time of going to pixel. Hugh Edwards, the BBC Pido, has more than double that. So the independent media space is not for shills like Burley and Pidos like Edwards, who still dream of appearing on a sofa on woke ITV or the British Bashing Corporation. It is rather for the likes of Mike Graham, whose new book Fake News on this exact issue has become a Sunday Times bestseller. And let's not pretend. Let's not pretend that this fake news has been limited to the BBC.

Mike has curated for us today some of the other worst MSM fake news moments in recent weeks, like the Press Association, which was responsible for their own misleading edit when they tried to censor this clip from Lord Simon Woolley's speech at the Jason R. Day vigil in Trafalgar Square in London. This is tough for me, as it's tough for all of you and the hundreds and thousands of people in the UK. and around the world who were appalled by the public assassination of Jason Arden. The lynching. The lynching.

Yet this was the edited version they sent to media outlets. This is tough for me, as it's tough for all of you and the hundreds and thousands of people in the UK and around the world who were appalled. I want to change the world. After he said the word appalled, we've heard that first clip. The live feed showed him saying, appalled by the public assassination of Jason Ardei, the lynching, the lynching. That was cut in the clip that was given out to media.

Mike has also chosen the moment when sly news tried to suggest that we couldn't possibly know the motivation of the terrorist who launched an attack on a pride event in Berlin. He had links with the Islamic State militant group and was known. to domestic intelligence. But the motivation for this attack remains unclear. What the fuck do you think it was, you stupid woke woman? Wake up! We all know what his motive was.

It was Islamism. It was to take us out. And your mad reporting is a big part of the problem. Similarly, when tens of thousands of migrants from Morocco invaded Sueta in Spain, sly news suggested that the majority of them had returned home. Another lie. These pictures show residents cheering as migrants were moved back towards the border. Most of those who crossed have now returned to Morocco.

So who have we come to trust true independence, like Sarah White, Truth, who was actually on the scene giving us the real story, the opposite of fake news. Watch. Isn't it ironic that the mainstream media are staying well out the way? They're staying in the main time where, guess what, all of the migrants have been chased out of. However, as you can see, there are migrants here. They're going up into the mountains, and they've already told me that if they hide in the mountains for a week,

they believe that's when they're going to be given permission to go over to Mainland Spain. So they've already said they're hiding in the mountains, hiding in the forest, they're on the rock fronts as well, and they're literally everywhere. Others in the independent media, such as Christian Drogan, behind Watchmen media, are doing the work that albernaum-loving MSM should really be focusing on, like continuing to report close up on the migrant invasion from the coast of France. We've got the warship out there. Those of lights absolutely everywhere.

The thing is stuck. The thing is stuck. Looks like they've just got it going again now. We managed to get a load of people off, bail the water out and push it. It seems like they're going. See the right we've got it going. Yeah, a big chopper there. Put the big lights on for them so they can see how they're going.

And then there are the citizen journalists. The brave citizen journalists like free speech shell who actually break my heart but are doing God's work. As Tommy Robinson posted to me, Sly News calling the concerned British public far right again, listen to their concerns. Do they sound far right or completely normal? Watch this.

I'm in the town most days and every time I go into town I see large groups of illegal migrants walking through the town together. It's very intimidating and when I look down the street I think to myself I feel like I'm in a different country. It's so wrong nobody's doing anything to help us. The women, young girls, the vulnerable, the elderly are so intimidated by it. I would just wish it would end. No one seems to be helping us. It continues every day and it gets worse and was. I'm 79. I don't like having them around and I live in old people's flats but they sit outside and drink alcohol and try and get in our fenced off areas to try and get away so the police don't see them. I never go out at night. Once I'm home in the afternoon I never ever go out.

I watched that and it totally broke my heart and it's what you will not see on the BBC just like Samara Gill of Talk TV who actually went to Marble Arch and Hyde Park to report on the Albanian and Romanian pickpockets taking over Stee Kahn's Islamist London and was immediately assaulted.

Okay, okay. It's come to light through multiple media publications that there is a much darker underbelly to all this. Albanian and Romanian gangs operate in this area. Some extremely, well, some trailing us right now, doing a circle as we speak. I'm feeling quite intimidated.

What? It's a public area? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. We're going to go. We're going to go. We're going to go. Absolutely disgraceful. But of course, who's the real problem, according to this Labor government? Who is the real problem?

It's independent reporters. It's citizen journalists. And that is why they have decided to come after YouTube, come after the algorithms, because the new stars of British journalism are starting to change the national conversation. The UK government is trying to essentially gain control of all of YouTube via the algorithm in order to make sure the information you can receive

is heavily curated. Only consume what they say you need to consume because they know best for you. Don't worry about all the other independent creators or companies or journalists, just ours. We're going to bury them so you'd have to really go out of your way and the fucking sticks and mud

to find anything that isn't approved. The authoritarian UK government is coming for YouTube, aggressively seeking to regulate its content and turn it into just another tool of propaganda. against the British people. Make no mistake. We're in a situation in the UK now

whereby the government are clamping down on YouTube. They want people like me gone. And this, I actually blame Harry for this, Harry and Megan. It is their censorship drive, their ridiculous crusade on misinformation that has led to the government doing this. We are all at risk here,

which is. why it's so important. I think whilst I know that they will suppress right-wing channels, but I think, and it's really important to look at this as a bipartisan issue, it's not left, it's not right. This is every single person in the UK who is going to be affected by this, particularly if you like to get your news or political commentary from independent sources. And that's why we must fight back and the fake news fight back has started. Here's Mike Graham.

Mike Graham, I loved your fake news selections and we will talk much more about that but we've got to kick off with the breaking news. Should we just have a bit of a pity party? Like, bye-bye news night. Bye-bye. We're not going to see you again. Well, I have to say after that incredible montage

of absolute, that's a dreadfulness from them. They should be shut down right now. They should forget about even doing a show tonight if they've got one plan because they're so bad. And like you, I saw that they've managed to reduce their count of people in production to 27 or something like that.

23 from 57. What are they all doing? It's a one-hour show. They've got about five-hour now, Mike. 23 people for half an hour. That's all it is. So long since I've watched it, I didn't even know they're cutting it in half.

So, I mean, you know, that's literally one, impressingly one person per minute to work on the show. I mean, it's a joke, isn't it? complete, utter joke. And also, how on earth

is that character, you know, who manages to completely invent a quote from Nigel Farage, not once, but three times. Matt Chorley,

who used to work at Times Radio, he was no good then either. And he has still got a job at Newsnight, and he's checking his notes. He's not just saying it by mistake. He's looking down. He says it three times

to Camry Badenop. He's obviously written it down. Nobody does that who's got half a brain. And I know he's only got half a brain, but still, the point is he, should be out of a job and he should never be shown in front of a camera on the BBC again. Absolutely. I mean, look, Matt surely a bloke who's got a face for radio, I know that's an old

cliche, but he truly does. I mean, stunned he got a TV career, but of course he got a TV career because he's a hard leftist, you know, and he was a hard leftist who was more than happy to take the Murdoch coin, as you point out. But he's now doing his true job. And you're so right, Mike, because I believed what he was doing in that moment was to try and stoke violence. Remember, the things were very, very tense at that point after Henry Novak so that he could then go and blame it on Nigel Farage. Yeah, absolutely right. And how shocking, by the way,

that some outlets have now discovered that Henry Novak was so victimized by the police at that time in Hampshire that they spent hours and hours and hours searching through everything he'd ever written, everything that he'd ever posted on social media, everything he'd ever said to anybody, interviewing friends of his, to try and find something racist that he might have said

at some point before he was brutally murdered by a Sikh knife man, you know? What's going on in this country? I know, I was listening to your show this morning with Father Calvin Robinson, who quite controversially has to be said, and he will be here tomorrow. He's obviously a half-cast guy. Do you know what he mean? So he is half-black, he is half-white. But he actually told you this morning, Mike,

he believes there needs to be more racism, not less racism. because actually the lack of racism is the thing that is meaning we are doing completely unacceptable things that, for example, lead to the death of Henry Novick. I would argue, though, that was just blatant anti-white racism. So it's almost like just another form of racism coming through. Yes, I think that was kind of what he was getting at, that, you know, racism only works in one direction in this country, and it's the racism of the establishment against white people, against those of us who might be slightly right wing. you know, that's the racism that exists in this country.

We know very well. We saw it at that Cambridge Vigil. That was a brilliant clip that you showed where they literally took out to make him look better. Lord Wully, there's never a better name, wasn't there for a guy like that? Lord Wully, Wully thinker, says that there's a lynching twice. He knows what he's doing. He knows what those words mean to people. He knows that he's he's he's he he's hearkening back to the times of trouble in the United States of America

when black people were actually lynched. He says the word. he says it twice, and then the press association can cut it out. It's absolutely disgusting. I mean, talk about fake news. I mean, I could write another 10 books about it. Well, I think you're going to, aren't you? Because, Mike, this does show how much the media is changing, right? Obviously, you've launched the Mike Graham show independently, becoming a phenomenon at breakfast time. But now you've also started through Mike Fairclough's brilliant free speech press, published your own book in about a week, and you've totally cut out all of

of the so-called, you know, the mainstream publishers who are like gatekeepers and would be sensory new. You can't say that. We've got to put it through the legals. All of that type of thing. Yeah. And it's what, number four on the Sunday Times best seller list? It's incredibly, I had a look at the list this week. Because I wasn't expecting it to be there. It's been number two overall in Amazon, UK, which is pretty amazing in itself, right? But I sort of peaked out at Sunday morning and I thought, oh, blind me. Number four, then I looked down the list of publishers, right? And Harper Collins, which is in the News UK building and is owned by the murder organisation, they turned down my book when I offered it to them some years ago.

So I was quite pleased to see that Harper Collins don't have a book in the top 10 at all. But mine's in there at number four. Love it. Absolutely love it. Mike, the other thing that we have to really celebrate today because it's hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious is the fact that these mainstream figures think that they can just come into this space while still spouting the same nonsense. Actually, no, it's not going to be accepted.

And I mean, okay, it was never going to work for the Pido, Hugh Edwards. Hilariously, though, Mike, he has twice the number of substack subscribers than K. Burley. Kay Burley's got 400. I know. I thought this might be a good opportunity to congratulate you, Dan, as well, for your amazing milestone last week of 750,000 followers. On YouTube, yeah. You've got approximately 750,500.

more than Kay Burley. I mean, how does she do it? She comes... But the other thing is she keeps getting invited onto things like you keep seeing her on news night, you keep seeing her on Laura Kunzberg's show, you know, she pops up all over the place as a panelist. You know, what does she know exactly?

She was a newsreader for a long time. And, okay, that might give her some view on the world of media, but she hasn't got any opinions that anybody wants to hear, specifically when you're talking about priest Andrew or Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. And to say, oh, well, he wasn't more here. I was extraordinary.

And then the other one, Mike, who we have seen fall flat on her face. And there's maybe not the same sort of hatred towards Holly Willoughby in this way. But you have had some real fun with this, Mike, because she goes from working with Philip Schofield and then he leaves and remember, are you okay? Are you okay? And she sort of became a national laughing stock. And people are also like, oh, come on, Holly. Like, of course you knew. Like, you knew, Holly.

knew, you knew, and I tried to report it and you just went along with it, Holly, while he was shagging, you know, the young runner in the dressing room because at that point, it was good for your career. But anyway, she has launched this YouTube channel, Mike, and we know how tough it is, right? We are in this game. We're doing this ourselves. It's tough. And we want it to succeed because we know there has to be an alternative to the mainstream media. Holly Willoughby has almost proven how tough it is because her channel has been a monumental disaster. I think she's got something like 21,000 subscribers, hardly any views. This is after Mike having a publicity campaign that you or I could only dream of, you know, the mainstream media, trumpeting the arrival

of this show. Page one of the sun, right? The sun, obviously, as I say in my book, Fait News, it's not what it was, but it's still the sort of the biggest selling tabloid pretty much in the country, that on the Daily Mail. And she's had stuff written about her in mail online. She happens to have a husband who's very well connected in the kind of the TV celebrity business, right? and he's also producing the show. They've got loads of people working on it. She gets a big spread in the sun. Then she gets another big spread in the sun.

And it's all about how wonderful she is, how cheeky she is. The great thing is that the first time I had to go at her new show because it's bloody awful. My YouTube channel actually went up. The clip that I put out was double what her show was. Well, Mike, she's pulled the emergency cord. It's the emergency cord for any podcaster. Don't do it, Mike. I'm going to invite Lily Phillips on to talk about how I've shagged

1,000 men in a day. And I actually thought this was really, really bad, Mike, because she's normalizing and sort of mainstreaming something, which is actually degenerate. And you know, Mike, I'm very suspicious of Lily Phillips because you've got these Islamists who now use Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue all the time to sort of say, well, this is why the UK needs Islamism, right? Because look at your women like Lily Phillips. who are shagging 1,000 in a day. It's almost like a sciop. I'm quite suspicious about them both.

Yes, that's a very good point that you make because it is outrageous, isn't it? It's so awful. And I don't know anyone who thinks it's a good idea, who wants to hear about it, who wants to give them publicity. But again, this is the mainstream media, Dan, that you and I both know well,

we worked inside it. They've sort of lost the plot. And they think that there are certain people in it who other people want to read about, or see or watch. And they've got it completely wrong because the world has moved on. You know, we are way ahead of our time.

People want to talk about politics. They want to talk about what you talk about, what I talk about. They're not interested in this kind of fake celebrity nonsense and bullshit, quite frankly, which is what it is. They want, we're in serious trouble in this country. You know, we need to talk about serious things.

We need to find out, you know, how are we going to get out of this mess before we all end up sinking into the channel. Now, Mike, I have to be honest with you, Mike Graham. your former talk TV breakfast show, I think it's in a bit of trouble, and I know you're probably going to disagree with me about some aspects of this,

but what I want to do is have us watch what happened this morning, okay, and then we can go at it and have a bit of a debate. But Nigel Farage, as I would say, fragile ego was rattled this morning. He sort of came out of hibernation to appear on Jeremy, Kyle's breakfast show. Kyle obviously replaced you on Talk TV in the breakfast slot. And this was the first opportunity that Nigel had to be asked about this new report in the Times today that Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney has actually warned Kemi Badernock against any

type of deal with Reform UK. Now, this was clearly briefed. I'm not denying this by Kemi Badernock directly to the Times. So Farage maybe has reason to be annoyed about it. The Times reported that Maloney warned the Tory leader not to do a deal with Farage and urged her to be your own woman and stand your ground. The Tory leader is a longstanding friend of Maloney's and met her for an hour-long coffee in Rome on Monday morning to discuss issues including the economy, migration and broader politics. I have to say, Kim, he did dress up. He dressed up. He dressed. He dressed. up for Italy. I like the dress. And the Times reported while Badenok is fighting Farage and Reform UK, Maloney is facing a hard right challenge in Italy from Roberto Van Achi, a former

army general. And during the meeting, Maloney told Badenok that you've got to be yourself and resist pressure to do deals. Badenock said at the weekend that a Tory deal with Reform UK would be monstrous. She told Ian Dale, the LBC host at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, what I want is a conservative government, not a monstrous reform conservative hybrid, which will actually put as many people off as it gains. Farage hit back, responding to the Times, perhaps she's right. All I would say is coalitions and deals are about trust, and I do not trust the conservatives. They tell us they're going to do a whole host of things when the truth is they didn't do any of it when they were in government.

I don't believe any of it. I won't be rude and use a word like she has, but it's an issue of trust. I don't trust them, and neither does. the British public asked if he would rule out a coalition with the Conservatives. He said yes. And I think by the time the election comes around, you'll see quite a lot of people who say they're going to vote for the Tories, but they'll see us as the clear choice versus Labor. So a coalition will be neither necessary or desirable. So at that point, Farage returns from holiday. He hasn't done any broadcast interviews at all, but he appears with Kyle on Talk TV for

what can only be described as North Korean level propaganda on the show. formerly hosted by Mike Graham, now helmed by the Reform U.K. Media trainer, that's what Kyle is, future candidate of the party. And you can actually see the panic rush across Jeremy Kyle's face when he realizes what I think actually

was a perfectly acceptable journalistic question, has upset Nigel Farage. Watch this. No, about this, Georgia Maloney. What have you done to upset her? She says that Kemi Badenock shouldn't do a pact with reform. Does she? How do you know that? Well, I'm just telling you a question I was asked to ask that was in a paper.

It was reported today. So, okay. Do you know Georgia Maloney? Yes. She turned on Donald. You do? Yes. So she hasn't said that. That's just the mainstream media. I had a very long conversation with Georgia Maloney very recently.

I didn't tell you about it. I didn't tell the media about it. I view conversations with people at that level has been confidential. In this particular case, I don't see a single quote from Georgia Maloney herself. I see what Kemi Badnock tells us, Georgia Maloney said. Well, maybe that shows a difference to myself and Kevin of Adnock. I keep conversations with senior figures in the world private. She chooses to play the game a very different way.

Good man. So Kyle had said when Nigel started kicking off, I am asking a question that I have been told to ask you that is in the newspaper today. And clearly he was worried at that point that had sort of gone off script. And Nigel was angry. because what then follows, and I'm going to play it all to you, Mike, is one minute and 52 seconds of what I can describe as Kyle kissing Nigel's ass. Okay?

Now, whether you support Reform UK or not, I think, I think most people will agree with me that this is a very hard watch indeed and not journalistic at all. Do you think that's why certain parts of the... press, nothing that I associate with of this station would see you as this sort of, I don't know, I don't know what they call you, because it's all toash to me. You speak common man's language in my humble, but why are you such a figure for them to be? Oh my God, that Nigel Farage. Well, if you write about me, you're going to get a reaction. Yeah. Because actually the public know who I am. If you write big articles and big in-depth investigations in the chemis shallow

cabinet, you ain't getting much traction. Because no one knows who they are. There was a cabinet minister who was Grayling. Yeah. And he stood up in the House of Commons. It's a problem with the United Kingdom. It was the Jeremy Kyle generation, and I bumped into him. And I said, why did you say that?

He said, because I knew it would get traction. Yeah, of course. If I put Jeremy Carl from that show. And that's it. Well, he wasn't stupid. No. But, no. And so, look, there are very, very few big characters with big backgrounds in

politics today. That makes me a natural target. And I get that. And I understand that. It comes with the territory. Yeah, and you know what? I've been through 20 years of being attacked on front pages and goodness knows what, and that's fine. All I object to is when they start to involve my family.

Yeah, absolutely. And there are some that will say, oh, Nigel's changed. He's been really angry lately. Well, I'm only angry because of the things that have happened to members of my family, unfairly, wrongly, and that would not happen to any other leader. And there's the point. And that's why I think millions continue to believe that you're the one man that can change what the hell's going on in this man of world. I promise to be churpy.

I promise to be what you want to be. Sorry, he said the wrong word. Stuff them. Be what you want, man. You're a human being. And I might just have the odd pines along the way. And the odd cigarette and pint would obviously go down. It's an absolute pleasure, mate.

Thank you. I'm how busy you are. Nigel Farage, leader, reform, exclusive to talk. Okay. Mike Graham, I have a feeling you might disagree with me on this. which is fine, we can have a debate. To me, Mike, that is not journalism. I watched your interview with Nigel Farage the other week

on the Mike Graham show. There were lots of newslines that came out of it. For example, you asked him about the whole Restore Britain thing. And to me, what I saw this morning was just pure propaganda. And I don't think people want that. No, I mean, I think the problem for talk and for Jeremy is that they live in a building. which is occupied by an awful lot of people

that don't like Nigel Farage, right? So they're already starting from a kind of difficult position because obviously, as you say, Jeremy and Nigel know each other, Jeremy works from time to time for reform. Jeremy's also not by his own admission, he would never pretend it, a political interviewer, right? He's just not. And I think actually, though, that Nigel has a point

in that piece about Georgian Maloney. There isn't any quotes from Georgian Maloney. There is nothing to suggest that she said it. And I've been checking her, Twitter account today. I've been checking any other stories that have been written around what she's been doing and she's been having to go to Israel. She's been talking about European security. She hasn't said anything that I can find about Nigel Farage and whether or not he's bad for the Conservative Party or whether she enjoyed meeting Kevin or anything like that.

And I think from Nigel Farage's point of view, he's going to say, yes, there are papers like the Times and they've said it that have written things about them, which have been, shall we say at the very least contestable. And there's no question. And I've written about it in my book, fake news, that there is an element of thought at News UK that they want to stop Nigel Farage and reform from getting anywhere near government. And so he's understandably a little bit touchy. And I mean, and, you know, I know Jeremy very well, as you know,

and he's still a friend of mine. And he might look back at that tonight and go, well, that looks a little bit too chubby, doesn't it? It looks a bit too friendly. and the idea that he's telling you millions of people want to, you know, see him as the leader. It's just his style, you know. I'm not going to have a go at Jeremy for not being, you know, Robin Day or not being, you know, Emily Maiklis about it. But, you know, he gets plenty of that from other people, you know, right? I sort of do, Mike, but I actually fundamentally disagree. And I'll tell you why.

I think the safe spaces of GB News and Talk TV for Reform UK have not actually. actually helped the party. I think it's given the party a real false sense of security. In terms of both how hard the real mainstream media are going to come after them, and you rightly point out, we've seen that from the Times and from other organizations. But also, Mike, because they're no longer Reform UK, and this, I guess, is something which is more pertinent to this channel, because I'm certainly not against Nigel Farage or Reform UK, but I want them to be properly conservative. I want them to really deal with the issues that this country is facing. And I think what happens now, Mike, is they never actually face questioning from the right.

And what that has resulted in is them thinking, oh, we own the right, you know, because everyone on GB News loves us, everyone on talk TV loves us. And actually, what's happened, Mike, is they've lost the independent media, maybe outside your show, but they've also lost a huge amount of voters who are turning in their droves to restore Britain and Rupert Lowe. And I don't think that is good for Reform UK. So I don't think these sort of safe spaces and the propaganda style from Talk TV and GBM News has actually really ended up doing Reform UK much of a favour. Do you understand what I mean?

And you may well have a point there. I would argue that perhaps we have yet to see how Restore Britain are going to do because they've gone quite quiet. I mean, this is their kind of, I don't know if this is their summer period off, because I haven't heard much from Still Britain in the last couple of weeks. You know, it may well be that they'll come back once the Parliament sort of re-emerges and once Andy Bonham actually starts announcing that he's going to do something as opposed to announcing that he's not going to do something. But, yeah, I mean, I think the trouble is with reform as they become more and more popular, and that's what they have become, and all of this nonsense about them peaking and doing badly in the Manchester mayoral election and doing badly in Makerfield. None of that's really true. They've increased their vote in all of those places, right?

And so, yes, some of the vote has been split by a stall, but to tell you where it hasn't been split is by the Tories. You know, the Tories came second in the Manchester mayor-old election when Andy Burnham won it the last time, back in whenever it was, I think it was 2022 or 23. They came fifth this time, right? They lost their deposit. The Conservative Party is a dead duck.

It's finished, you know. And I don't particularly shed any tears over that. But I think Tammy Badenov is punching way above her weight going to see the leader of a European country and making out like she's got any chance of becoming the prime minister. I've got more chance of being prime minister than she. But the problem is, Mike, the Conservative. And look, I've been very clear on this, right? I could never see a world in which I voted for the Conservative Party again.

I last voted for the Conservative Party in 2019. We obviously all know what happened in that election that then Brexit Party had actually stood down to give Boris Johnson this clear run. And we put a lot of trust in Boris Johnson. Personally, I put a lot of faith in Boris Johnson. I think he started OK and then was completely hijacked by the COVID scam. But look, after what I concerned... He couldn't be a prime minister.

He was a great campaigner. He was great at winning the election. But after that, he was kind of, he didn't know what to do. Well, and really, he only had a... You know, because remember there was the Brexit thing. And then, like, literally we're in lockdown a few weeks later. Look, he failed. He failed. He failed. I'm not, I mean, the Boris Wave is one of the biggest acts of self-harm ever conducted by a government. And that was by a right-wing government who promised that we would take back control. So anyway, the point being, without going into detail on that, I don't think I could ever personally see a world in which I vote for the Conservative Party again. But I look at the polls and what I see, Mike, is this totally divided right, because the Conservative Party is not totally dead and buried. You know, there are certain points. pockets in the country where they are strong. And actually in the polls, what? Like maybe, I mean,

I don't trust individual polls, but you could say there are anywhere from 14 to 20% like on average. And reform is pretty much somewhere from 20 to 25% on average. And restore is somewhere from 4% to 8% on average. So if you come to a general election and there are a lot of people, including within the Conservative Party, Mike, who I know, believe that Andy Burnham will call and early election. I'm sure we will. It seems a really opportune time for him to do so. So you've got a mess.

You've got a total split on the right that will cause a mess. And I guess my issue is that Reform UK was way, way, way too confident when it came to restore and dismissing Rupert Lowe. And now I sort of see this as a problem. How do you see it playing out? Do you think there has to be any type of deal? Well, I think the trouble is, it's very difficult, isn't it? I mean, when I spoke to Nigelphrodh in Clacton, the eve of the by-election,

and I said to him, when would you like to see an election, a general election? And he went tomorrow, because I was asking him if he thought reform ready, because some people think reform are not ready, that they haven't yet got enough candidates. And if there was an election called in the autumn, they would struggle to put a bunch of, you know, believable candidates up. But I think, again, so would restore. You know, restore.

It's not easy finding credible characters, you know, because obviously, whenever you do it in a rush, you end up making mistakes. You end up getting people who get exposed by the lefty media as, you know, former members of the BNP or people that once wrote something that was rather untasteful about Jewish people. You know, it goes on and on. And I think the problem for Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe's relationship is that they don't trust each other. And that's very clear. I mean, you broke the story, was it last week, about the lawsuit that's being through? threatened. Well, private prosecution, yeah. Yeah, it's being threatened by, I've lived to

a suit long in America, I call it lawsuits. You know, where, you know, Rupert Lowe's threatening to basically privately prosecute Nigel Farage for fraud. Now, you know, that was sent, I think you said, on June the 3rd to reform. And then at some point, about a month later, he's talking about making some kind of a pact.

And you just think to yourself, well, if he didn't get a response from Nigel Farage on the actual letter, the legal letter, the first. sort of noise about what might happen, on what basis did he think that they could do a deal together? So then you have to conclude, well, did he then just make that answer? But isn't it good that he's trying

to get over that and actually offering Nigel a chance? Well, the trouble is it seems to me to be a bit disingenuous, because what he's asking the public to believe, and many people said at the time, if you want to do a deal with someone, you do it behind closed doors, you don't, you know, start making it public on social media. You go behind closed doors, but he couldn't

do that because he'd already sent a sort of effectively a threatening letter saying that he was going to go after him in a court of law, which could result in him going to prison. So, I mean, I think that there is no trust there whatsoever. And I think that is very difficult to overcome. You know, it's a bit like saying, do you want to get back together with your ex-wife

after she rinsed your bank account and took all the kids away? It wouldn't let you see. Okay, but if the choice is number 10 Downing Street or five more years of Andy Burnham, then don't reform UK have to get over it. I mean, this guy, this guy, Rupert Lowe, whatever you think of Ruth,

as you know, I'm a big fan. Other people aren't, right? Whatever you think of him, Mike, he was elected as a Reform UK MP. He was completely acceptable to the party in that election, which was not all that long ago. And so if doing some type of deal with Restore Britain, which I think could potentially give restore a chance to fight on its own in a number of target seats, which would mean they would hopefully get into Parliament with a good number of MPs, a bit like reform did at the last election.

If it's that and having to swallow your pride on that or Andy Burnham continuing, surely Nigel Farage should do the deal. Well, you might think so. But again, it so much depends on the actual real truth of what Restore could do. Because, yes, they did very well in Great Yarmouth under a different banner, by the way.

And yes, they have had a really reasonable amount of success getting a kind of what you might call a protest vote of some kind because anything up to seven or eight percent is nothing more than that. So there's no guarantee as far as I'm aware, unless you've seen different data, that they would win anywhere in particular, in any particular constituencies. And so if you were to say to Rupert Lowell, stand down reform in certain areas so that you can win them, that's kind of gifting reform votes to restore, is it not? So I don't think that would work either. Unless you can be for sure that Restore have the ability to win some actual seats.

Well, I think what the issue is, of course, is that even reforms internal polling shows that even Restore hitting 2 or 3 or 4% in certain constituencies could stop Reform UK winning the seat. So basically what you're having to do is sacrifice yourself in a few seats, where maybe Restore wouldn't have won if they were there on their, sorry, if they were there competing against Reform UK. But if you take Reform UK out of the mix, all of a sudden you've got a potent force in Restore Britain. But look, all of this is to play for. All I'm saying is that at some point, I don't think it's helpful.

Well, you know I called it out on the show. I didn't think it was helpful at all, Nigel Farage in his interview with you, where there were a whole load of bombshells. comparing Restore Britain to the fascists, you know, the black shirts of the 1930s. That is so, so, so irresponsible. Well, to be honest, he said that some elements of people around Restore, I think, rather than actually the party itself.

And the thing is, if he believes that, then he should feel the need to say it. You know, he's entitled to his opinion. You might think he's unwise in the same way that it might be unwise if you're Rupert Lowe, if you really want to genuinely do a deal with reform and a very high-profile figure in the party, it may best not be that you send him a threatening legal letter, and most before you do it. Mike, we have to talk about Andy Burnham. And I've been very excited about this because, look, this guy is evil. Like, I have no doubt about that.

But the problem is, at the moment, people are being suckered, Mike, by this David Brent act. and it actually reached Ukraine. I think this was the moment when he became the latest British Prime Minister to humiliate Britain on a global stage because he actually thought it was a good idea to sit down and play a Smith song. Of course it was a Smith song

on the guitar next to a Ukrainian soldier. Here's what happened. It's a song by, it's a Manchester band called The Smiths. You know the Smiths? Yeah. It's a song called Rush home Ruffian

I'm out of practice Oh my God, Mike, make it stop. Make it stop. I mean, it's like, oh God, you know, Charlotte Gill put out a great tweet just before your show started. You know, is Andy Byrne and Prime Minister or just a midlife crisis? Because that's what he looks like.

He looks like a guy. I mean, he's not young, right? He's 50s. You know, he steps out of the train looking for all the world like he's driven it. You know, he's wearing it. apparently called it. I had Jeff Banks on the show when I showed him that yesterday, who's obviously an icon of British fashion. And apparently that's called a half-zip turtle, right?

And as we decided to call him a half-wit turtle, what's he think he's doing? I mean, it's embarrassing that he's wearing that. If your father was wearing that, you'd be embarrassed. You know, if I wore something like that, I'd be embarrassed. He's too old to be dressing like some guy from, you know, man at CNN or something. I don't know what he's looking like. But it's just incredibly cringe-worthy. And then the whole business with the guitar. And you know this guy. And you're right when you say he's evil.

I've been saying this ever since he's been in much worse than Keir-Stama. Kirstama was hopeless, you know, charmless, had no talent, was a useless lawyer, hopeless husband, crappy prime minister. But at least you can tell by looking at him all of those things, right? This guy makes out that he's Mr. Nice guy.

You know, every single thing he's promised to do, he's not doing. Today was the latest U-turn where he's now, not going to nationalise Thames water. Oh, why? Because it's too expensive and it's too hard, which is what we all told him in the first place. And then, even at the weekend, at the football, he said, I'm never going to

Everton unless I can sit in my old seat with my old mates and watch the game that way. Well, yes, where he was? He's in the director's box because they told him he has to sit in the director's box for security. Only Labor, apparently, Labour Prime Ministers have to have security at football because Rishi Sunnak didn't need it.

He goes to San Anton and sit in the stands with everybody else. But apparently Stama and Burnham need protection. Yeah, no, I mean, you were so right to point out that he is a danger because he is able to cover it, because that's the thing. Slippery Stama could not cover up who he really was. He just was so bad as an actor, whereas Burnham is a good actor, but he is actually so much worse than Stammer, in part because he's so dangerous.

I mean, I've got an issue with the whole Ukraine thing as well. So he basically turns up, gives the speech. promising to sign this blank check over to Zelensky. Watch this. To keep up the pressure on Russia. Now, Mike, I've got a real issue, right? Because we are in financial direstrates. And whatever you actually think about the rights or wrongs of the Ukraine war, it is time that it is brought to an end, not just because of the bloodshed, but because we can't financially afford this. And I have actually got into a bit of

row today and I'm disappointed about this. John Cleese and I have a real history. Okay. So he is a comedy legend and when I was at the Sun, I formed a good relationship with him. I actually broke the story about the big, do you remember when Monty Python came back and they sold out the 02 and it was like a massive thing and the Sun gave away like a can of spam and all of that. I had a good relationship with him. Then he came to G.B. News when I was at G. and he chose to do the big interview announcing it with me. So I was like, okay, we're in a good place, but I know he's a lefty. I know he's a rabid lefty, and he's like a press-hating lefty.

He was a big Lib Dem Hugh Grant guy. So then when I was sacked from GB News or left GB News, he very much turned on me quite nastily. But I've been very supportive of him. I don't care what he thinks about me personally. I've been very supportive of him sort of moving away from the Lib Dems, calling out Islam supporting Rupert Lowe. But anyway, he's come for me today because I posted on X, we are broke. Ukraine's Zelensky government is proving it is more corrupt by the day, yet our new PM Burnham has just turned up in Kiev wearing a dodgy polo shirt,

grinning like a Cheshire Cat, signing another blank check to keep this ludicrous war going. And Cleese reposts that. He's also, by the way, going for Elon Musk today, I note, and he reposted it with three words to, you know, his hundreds of thousand followers, another Putin fan. Now, I responded saying, hardly, John, keep up, you need to start watching some real independent journalism

on outspoken. But honestly, Mike, this is really annoying me now. So what, we're not able to have a debate about the Ukraine war without someone accusing you of being pro-Putton.

So, okay, we're just going to continue, Mike, are we signing checks? I mean, the EU has just given another 6.9 billion. Just like that. We're just going to keep doing that, are we? And keep letting these people die.

No, it has to come to an end. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more with you. And the fact is Russia, I've got some Russian friends, right, who've been recently to Russia. And they said to me, Russia is booming right now, right? They're selling their oil to China. They're selling their oil to Iran. And they're selling their oil to India. They don't care about sanctions anymore because they've had them for so long that they've kind of copper-bottomed their own economy without the need to do any business with the West, right? The streets of Moscow are apparently gleaming. They're clean, the shops, the luxury shops, Chanel and all. the others, they're all still selling very expensive handbags and very expensive perfume. They're going back to the force to Dubai. They're buying property in Dubai. They're going back to the force to Istanbul. You know, the number of, the biggest number of Ferrari is being sold right now in the world is in Istanbul, in Turkey. And they're mostly being sold to Russians, right? Now, you might have a problem with that. You might say that they're making ill-gotten gains because of the war. But the fact is, is what we're not doing is beating the Russians into

submission, right? And what's happening instead is that we're getting completely bankrupted by Ukraine, who have by the way just now got their hands on the blueprints for some long-range missiles that they can then fire back at us if they decide they don't like us anymore. Indeed, indeed. And of course, as you say, Russia making a lot of money, making a lot of money, and proving everyone wrong who went with the easy narrative that O'L sanctions are going to work. And so all I just say to John Cleese is, John Cleese, can we have a nuanced, intelligent debate about this? Me saying that the Ukraine war needs to end and that we can't afford it, we can't afford to keep writing a blank check. It does not mean I'm, what did he say, a Putin lover

or whatever he claimed. Breaking today, King Charles has been accused of lying about Prince Harry and Megan Markle's return to the UK as monarchists increasingly feel betrayed by our head of state. Now, this story has become an international culture war. We cannot deny that. With even Milo Unopoulos posting, expunge anyone from your life, whom you suspect of being Team Sussex. Toxic. narcissists. And in some ways I completely understand that point of view. I mean, we have one of those toxic narcissists, Mike Tapp, who was a useless immigration minister under Slippery Stama, writing for the right-wing daily telegraph newspaper in the UK today, that Prince Harry is some

type of hero. And all of us should be happy to pay for his security. He said for years, Prince Harry has too often been discussed through the prism of controversy. In the process, something more important has been lost, the record of a man who has served as country, supported veterans, champion seriously ill children, and built one of the most successful international movements for wounded service men and women. Oh, do bug off. Do bog off. Seriously, Prince Harry is a failed humanitarian. What else explains him this week, literally cutting and running away from the African Parks Organization that once he believed was going to change that continent. But I do.

Do think we have to talk about the king. You know I'm not afraid to do so here and outspoken. He clearly has betrayed Christians in this country with his decision to promote Islamism. And now I think he's betraying us again by secretly welcoming Prince Harry and Megan back while telling the public, oh, no, no, no, I didn't know about this? I had nothing to do with this. Well, unfortunately, Charles has a track record of lying. I mean, he lied, didn't he when he said that Queen Camilla would never be a thing.

So this new damning revelation has come from Tom Sykes of the royalist substack, very experienced royal reporter thrown out of the royal rotor for criticizing the king. And he has revealed that any idea that the king is not nodding this through, Harry and Megan's return, is frankly absurd. It's going to go down incredibly badly. The notion that these two people who think the monarchy is terrible, cruel, duplicitous, deceptive, uncaring, pick your own pejorative adjective,

and I'll back in a better position than any non-working members of the family have ever been in, and we are now being softened up for them to be given the full security at huge cost, as we saw in the newspapers this weekend. He adds, the idea that Harry is a hero will appall many. There has been plenty of commentary over the years,

suggesting that Harry was very sensibly given roles in the army that were carefully considered to balance the opportunity of frontline service, against not putting a senior royal in the direct line of fire. In other words, didn't really see proper service. Can we just be honest about that? He was protected from start to finish. Tom Sykes goes on.

That this being enabled by the king is made very clear by the complete lack of censure the king has applied over the past six years in respect of Harry, despite all the negative effect he has had on the monarchy. The massive desabilization caused by this return, alone is insane, and yet there has been no censure from the king at all for the destruction Harry and Megan have wrought. Incredibly, Harry is still a counsellor of state. He is still on the royal website. He has his titles. The kids have their titles. Harry has been folded back

into British life by his father. He goes on. The idea that the king only knew last Sunday is a nonsense. It just doesn't make sense. And this is clearly why Alderton left several weeks earlier. Remember, that is the king's chief courtier and is something that I have reported on this show too. And Sykes says this is a disaster for the king. The king looks foolish. The king looks weak. And the British public will not tolerate it. It could have a very serious impact on the monarchy itself. Let's hope the king lives a long time. But the longer he lives while indulging all of this from Harry and Megan, the more they damage, undermine and weaken the institution. The final straw for a lot of people will come when the Sussexes arrive at Heathrow if they are met by a police escort. It would be outrageous. They were

told by the courts that they weren't entitled to it and they've gone around the back door. Harry's sources have said to me repeatedly, the king could get security for his son, the king could do this for his son, and let's be totally honest, it now looks like he has done it for his son. defying the people is a very unwise move for a monarch. We haven't heard the end of this. And of course we haven't. Because just 2% of the British public want Prince Harry and Megan Markle to receive security funded by ass, the British taxpayer. Just 2%.

98% of people. That is even Harry and Megan supporters say absolutely not. And the establishment is turning, folks. The establishment is turning. Andrew Neal, the very experienced establishment. mainstream media broadcaster going viral for suggesting after this video got renewed focus that we should all have some type of national whip around to keep the broke couple in Montecito writing, please, is there nobody who can make this virtue signaling bollick stop?

Why does Harry think we give a monkeys what he thinks? He has zero qualifications or knowledge to opine on such matters. He's sorry the world is not a better place that it is. With that sort of penetrating philosophical insight, and Oxbridge professorship must surely beckon. He's been facetious there. He's just reading a vacuous script. His wife wrote for him. If we had a whip around, couldn't we pay for them to stay in Montecito? I'd contribute, so would I, by the way, Andrew Neal. This was the video in question. My wife said recently that our generation and the ones before us haven't done enough to wipe the wrongs of the past. I too am sorry. Sorry that we haven't got the to the place that you deserve it to be.

Institutional racism has no place in our societies, yet it is still endemic. Unconscious bias must be acknowledged without blame to create a better world for all of you. I want you to know that we are committed to being part of the solution and to being part of the change that you are all leading. Now is the time, and we know that you can do it. Mike Graham, there is a very good reason, isn't there? Why 98% of us say, do you know what? Just let him be.

Just let him be. Now, of course, I'm being facetious. I don't want any harm to come to Prince Harry. But if there is a genuine security risk, I know his people are now pushing around this idea. Oh, the Taliban have renewed their threat. If there is a genuine threat, he will get security at that particular moment, just like anyone high profile does, Mike.

But 98% of the public say, no, we're not paying $5 million a year. Can you believe the king is just going to be? to ignore all of us, this does feel like a huge betrayal. Yeah, it does, isn't it? But it also feels like an awful lot of, you know, towing and throwing going on, because we're now reading that if they do come, and we were told originally they were coming at the end of this week, I think, they might only come for six months now. They might not come. They might want to be a line the other day saying they want to be an international couple, whatever that means.

So they keep the chickens in Montecito. They go visit them every now and again. They pop into to London and go to Windsor for tea once in a while. They might have a place in their coxswolds. They might not. They might stay at Ulthrop. They might not. He, apparently, I don't know if you saw this ridiculous piece today. Richard Osmond, the television presenter from Pointless.

I mean, talk about Pointless. This guy's fabulous. He says, Harry could have his own career in front of the TV camera because he saw him on that ridiculous podcast that he did, the Joe Mahler podcast, right? Which I think was one of the worst things I've ever seen. and he seems to think he could appear on game shows. He says maybe he could go on the wheel with Michael McIntyre. I mean, the whole thing is pathetic.

It's a joke. And I think William, surely in all of this will have to be saying to his dad, you know, we don't need this scumbag knocking around in Britain. We really don't want him here. We really don't want to have to have to put up with the coverage that they're going to be demanding from all the papers and all the, you know, the paparazzi's and all the rest of it. And the king, but he's very famously stubborn, isn't he? You've said many times.

you know, once he gets an idea in his head, unless Camilla can change it, he's going to do whatever he wants to do because he's the king. And he doesn't get to do much than he wants to do, to be honest. So it's a real mess. And again, once again, caused by the world's greatest narcissists, Harry and Megan. But doesn't the king then put the monarchy at stake? Well, he says that he thinks of the monarchy first. And I thought to myself, well, that's handy since you're the bleeding king. You know, you should really put the monarchy first and you should put the succession.

of William second, if not first, behind that, right? But equally, he doesn't seem to have a clue about how to operate in the modern world, you know? I mean, he's not a very good king, I'm sorry to say. He hasn't been particularly wise. He's made some very bad decisions. He's showed himself to be a grumpy old git. Remember that episode with the pen

when he was signing in as, you know, I'm now the king? And I just think that he's been very disappointing, to be honest. And I worry that an awful lot of people that I speak to now after the death of Queen Elizabeth II are saying, you know what? I've had enough of the monarchy. I don't care anymore because they're all a bunch of, you know, self-serving, you know, green, infected, woke people that we really don't care about anymore.

I mean, I don't really care much about William, to be honest. I hate Harry. I think he should stay where the hell he is. And the king, quite frankly, is a bit of an embarrassment. And that is the huge risk, Mike. that is the huge risk. And I think this is what Tom Sykes is referring to in that quite blistering piece when he says actually what King Charles is doing here is betraying monochists. And I count myself as a monochist noroyalist. And if you annoy us, then who do you have left?

And this is where actually, Mike, I have great sympathy for Prince William. And just hear me out on this right. Because I think he gets it, Mike. I think he understands that how, Harry and Megan back in the United Kingdom is completely untenable. And my understanding is what he wants to do is what the Queen Mother, remember, and the late Queen of the Second did with Wallace Simpson, and, well, he became the Duke of Windsor, didn't he, after the abdication of King Edward, which was basically, you're never coming back. Like, we're not talking about you, we're not seeing you.

You are frozen out, and you were in total exile because you made your bed, and you now lie on it. And I think that approach from William is strong. Like take the titles away, take everything away. I mean, personally, I guess you probably can't do this, Mike. But personally, I'd say, you know, make it so unpleasant for them to ever want to set foot in this country again. No, I actually said once, and I got a lot of, you know, I'll duel for it from various courses. Because I said it was up to me.

I'd strip him of his British citizenship, you know? Like Shemima Begham? Traitor. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Same to Bangladesh maybe you can hang out with her. But, you know, I said, look, you know, this is a guy who's accused his own family of being racist. He's accused Britain effectively being racist. He's accused the media of being racist. He doesn't like it here. He doesn't like Britain. He thinks America's the new Nirvana or something.

Let him stay there and say, sorry, here's your British passport and rip it up in front of him and say, you know, no thanks. You want to come back here. You come as a foreign visitor with an American passport. And good luck trying to get in. Well, I actually agree because the thing is, what they did was so treacherous. Do you hear quite often people say, people say, oh, what did they really do? They lied about the British royal family being systemically racist in order to see the downfall of the British royal family. And again, Mike, my view, and actually it's more than a view, it is backed up by a lot of reporting, is that Harry believed that if he could just make life so miserable,

for Prince William and Catherine, Prince William and Catherine would just say, you know what, we're throwing in the towel, we don't want our kids to be in the line of succession, and guess who then becomes king and queen? King, Harry, Queen, Megan.

You know, that was the plot. Of course, you can see her plotting it because she's like the girl from mean girls, which is not very bright. She thinks she's clever, but she really isn't. And actually, she's been done up like a kipper by Kate and Wills, actually, I think, because I think they thought you were absolutely right.

I totally buy that. I think that's exactly what they were trying to do. And they were trying to kind of chase everybody away. And suddenly they'd go, oh, look, isn't it great? We've got this modern royal family. Look, I'm married to this, you know, black woman. And isn't it fantastic? And isn't it marvelous?

And isn't it really showing that diversity is our strength and all of that. And Laurenne inside has got it right, too, when she says that a lot of this anti-press sentiment, a lot of this crack down on free speech and on independent broadcasting, and independent journalism has been driven by him and by those other idiots that hacked off and all those people that have lost massively. So I'm looking forward to him signing the check

and handing it over to, and I love that one of my favourite lines of the weekend was reading about Elton John saying that he's fed up that everyone's treating him like some kind of, you know, bank teller that he just pull up to him and go, do you mind pay one legal? I'm not doing it. Get lost. I'm not an ATM, Harry.

He is reported to have sex. And I believe it because here's the thing, Mike. You know, rich celebrities are often the tightest people in the world because they don't want to spend their money on others. Now, Nadine Dorries, this is interesting. She was obviously a former, well, senior cabinet minister. Wasn't she under Boris Johnson in the cabinet? But she's now a senior member of Reform UK. And she lives in the Cotswolds, Mike.

And she has a social circle that includes Queen Camilla. and she says that they will not get the warm welcome. Harry and Megan will not get the warm welcome that they're hoping for in the Cotswold. So she wrote that her phone was on fire and in the space of just a few minutes, this is immediately after the news is announced, she receives more than 30 WhatsApp messages,

several of them via various local group chats. And the messages said things like, I hope they aren't going to make life awkward put in the lanes with their security detail, but better not make drop off at school a drag. I have to get to work. Has she ever heard of Dalesford? We have the real deal in-date organic jam.

And Nadine Dorez went on to say, if Harry or Megan are reading this, you should know that here in the Cotswolds, we aren't in the least bit dazzled by stardust, even the royal variety. You will be afforded privacy and respect if you live amongst us. We want you and your children to be happy. but heirs and graces and a sense of entitlement won't go down well.

Half of the people who live here would regard your bank balance as small change. And this is the problem, Mike. I mean, who owns the Cotswolds really? You know, it's Jeremy Clarkson. It's Rebecca Brooks, you know, who they hate, the boss of News UK. And it's Queen Camilla, who, as Nadine Dory said, regularly turns up at these social occasions. And I just don't think people are going to be that warm to Harry and Megan and the false world. Well, the thing is, the bottom line is nobody likes them.

It's that simple. And one of the reasons why they may be leaving California in Montecito is that they've fallen out with everybody there as well. You know, Oprah Woodfrey doesn't speak to them anymore, as far as I'm aware. The other people who are sort of living in that rather, you know, rich enclave of California, near Santa Barbara, which is a lovely part of the world, you know, they've got not a patch on any of those people in terms of money. You know, these are people who think nothing of having one, not just one private jet, but two, in case the other one breaks down. You know, I mean, these are not people that scrounge around for grubby deals with Netflix and Spotify and, oh, let's do a podcast. You know, no, they don't need to because they're not hoaring themselves around for, you know, a little bit of publicity that they get their hands on.

And so they haven't got a friend left in the world. I mean, even the Africans have kicked them out pervency. Mike, there's another really shocking aspect of this, though, and it is the left in this country, the despicable left in the country. And by the way, these are mainstream media people, trying to use this return by Prince Harry and Megan to stoke a race war by linking the story to Jason Arde. And we've seen a whole load of this, right? But one of these women who wants this culture war is the LBC host. Natasha Devon, who just believes all of the treatment around Megan Markle is connected to race. Sorry to put you through it, Mike, but let's watch her latest and then you can go for her immediately afterwards.

They haven't even moved back here yet, and it is like they've learned nothing from the last time round. Megan has spoken, and Harry has written about in his book, actually, the impact that that intense scrutiny had on both of them, but on Megan in particular. And it's difficult not to think about Princess Diana and the intensity of the media scrutiny with regard to her and how tragically that ended. And it is like literally no lessons have been learned here. I mean, to be serious for a moment, they're not even back yet. We don't know any details.

the speculation, the sheer number of headlines, the domination of the front pages, right? I am team Megan. But the reason I'm team Megan is because of all of the vitriol that she has been on the receiving end of, a lot of it of which was racist. Let's call it what it was. You know, when you compare those headlines side by side of how Catherine and Megan are portrayed in newspapers for, for engaging in exactly the same behaviour, whether it's ordering flowers for their wedding or favouring a particular type of scented candle or stroking their baby bump.

There is a very clear agenda to play into all kinds of tropes around what black women are supposedly like. Oh, there you go, Mike. The tropes. It's just the tropes and the races. She's reading from the James O'Brien script. She really is. I mean, absolutely horrendous woman. writes for the Guardian.

Apparently she's the patron of a charity called No Panic, which is for people who suffer from anxiety, give them support. Well, I get anxiety listening to her bullshit. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, does she not know that Megan has been a proven liar over everything? She quotes from Harry's book, which was riddled with lies. He couldn't even remember half of it. He was just stoned off his face the whole time.

He was making notes about it. You know, he made things up. He gave interviews and then contradicted himself. You never forget that interview he gave to Tom. what's his face of my TV? When he denied actually saying... Oh, Tom Bradby, yeah, and he said, oh, no, no, no, we never said it.

Here's the clip. Here it is. Here's you saying it. You can't thank the person because that wouldn't be fair. You said, somebody said it. You wouldn't tell us who it was. You made it up.

You know, these people are just unbelievable in veteran lies. And for the left to kind of cozy behind, Megan, as though that's some kind of position you have to hold because you're left with. It's so pathetic. I saw Nita Miscoe on GB News doing the same thing, standing up for Megan and saying,

oh, do you know, she's so much more worthy of being a princess than Kate. And you're kind of going, what? What are we talking about? You know, but they've got this kind of sickness. It's almost like they should be treated for some kind of, you know, leftist disease. Well, it's the woke mind virus, isn't it? It is, as he's on Musk phrase it, it is the woke mind. Yeah, it's like you have to tick this box

because if you're left wing, you have to like Megan, and you have to think Harry's been hard done by. They're liars. They're cheats. I wouldn't put it past them if they have probably, you know, somehow just got hold of people around them every single time, suck them dry and then kicked them out of the house and said, we'll ever see you again. You know, these are ghastly, horrible, parasitic individuals. The idea that anybody stands up for them because they've been terribly badly attacked and, oh, I can't help thinking about Diana. Really? Well, those of us who actually covered the Diana story knew that Diana was an incredibly savvy woman. She would never have tolerated Megan Mark. she would have kicked her straight out of Kensington Palace as soon as she saw her because she would have seen her as a scheming manipulative cow. And there was only one scheming relative cow allowed in Kensington Palace, and that was Diana.

I just had to share one more with you, Mike. This was one that Lee Cohen found, and it's from the New York Times. Of course, it's from the New York Times. Of course. And a woman called Roxanne Gay. And Lee Cohen sets it up this way. Only the anti-monarchy, anti-British New York Times, could come up with this absolute rubbish,

siding with Harry and Megan's manufactured victimhood, recycling the lazy racism smearers if every royal boundary was bigotry. They trashed the family for profit, failed without the titles, then cried persecution. The Sussexes aren't victims. They set the fire and sold tickets to the smoke. But here is the column by this race beta.

I'm just going to be honest. Don't Harry and Megan know better. And she wrote, as endearing as Megan and Harry's story was, reality was never far behind. The biggest crisis, of course, was that a woman of color was infiltrating the royal family, and more important, the royal bloodline, however diluted it may be at this point. What should have been merely fraught, but manageable, quickly became untenable. There was nothing Megan could do that would ever have been good enough, and as she has detailed in the years

since the pressures from within and outside the royal family had a detrimental effect on her mental health, it's kind of miraculous that their relationship has to this point endured. No matter what you think about Harry and Megan, race is the proverbial elephant in the room. This is the power of bigotry. The monarchy has tolerated a breathtaking range of despicable behaviour from assorted royals, but what they could not abide is a black woman. People can attribute all of this royal family tension to ego or pettiness or a would-be king asserting his will over a never-will-be king, but that won't change the painful reality that the king wears the heavy crown of racism and most of those in the current line of succession will too.

So, Mike, what this woman Roxanne is saying? It's like, oh, George, Charlotte, Louis, you're little racists too, and there's nothing you can do about it. It is just astonishing levels of victimhood. Yeah, totally. Totally. And also, I see she's sort of throwing in Henry the 8th's name in there to blame him for something, you know, because he beheaded a few people, you know, somehow that's the lineage that they've,

they've kind of, you know, come from. And therefore, they're all completely nasty, horrible people. But, you know, this is the same woman, Megan Markle, who didn't even know she was black, apparently, until she went to Canada or something, you know. She used to type on her form, you know, like when she was going into acting jobs, she used to type on the form, Caucasian. Yeah, right.

And she said she'd never actually suffered racism at all in her life until she needed to find a reason to excuse the fact that actually she hated life in Britain and that's why it's so funny she's coming back. And have you noticed as well that in different pictures, even as we're looking through these pictures, she's a different colour in all of them, right? Now, I'm not suggesting that she's spraying herself with something, but I had Kinsey Schofield on the other morning and she said, you know, I'm blacker than Megan Markle, right? And she really is because Megan Markle in many situations looks completely white. Yeah, indeed. And she did use to sell herself as a white actress. I'm like, look, so much feedback coming in today, especially Mike on the whole BBC

news night at scene. So Dermott Jones, 8753 says not only does the BBC need to be defunded, but many in the organisation prosecuted for gross misconduct. Totally agree. Completely, completely agree. Cyber Lizard Co. UK said the problem is definitions. I sent an FOI request to the BBC to ask for its working definitions of far right and far left and was told they did not have such definitions don't believe a word. Oh my God, that is so right, because why the hell did they not describe the tip whisper as Ak Polanski as far left? For example, Mark Dyer once is now age 74. I was raised listening to Radio 4. Now I neither watch nor listen to the BBC. It is just not part of my life. It was dishonest after Brexit and during COVID. Absolutely. And it's so great, Mark, that you're

with us here on this independent media revolution. Fake news. TS4211 says we're going to fight like hell until the BBC license fee is abolished. Golden Rose, K7 News says Sky News and BBC News are finished. They need to admit it. No one believes in them anymore. And if they do, they are fools. Sarah W807R, thank you so much for the super chat, says Mike Graham brought me to YouTube. And isn't that amazing? That is such a positive thing because now you're out of that mainstream ecosystem and your eyes are opening up and that's because Mike left. left. Leigh, 1962, thank you for the superchip. Says, Daniel, with the best journey we have in the independent media. Thank you for all you do to get us the facts. And big love to our Mike

restore. So Mike, I think Lee Lee's, you know, giving a little hint, a little hint to you there. And MD3-4338 says, enjoying a wee tipple, Mike. No one deserves it more than you. You are a brilliant truth teller. So thank you so much. Lots of great feedback coming in. You know, the bad news is I'm just actually drinking water. How disappointing. I know. I'm going to have a glass of wine as I finish.

You might have been a little bit more outrageous, you know, if you'd had some tequila. It's true. If you'd had some tequila in there. Okay, let's reveal today's greatest British and union jackass winner though. Mike nominated Jolian Morm. You know, the loser.

I always say his name wrong. I don't even care. And also Angela Rainer. I went for Mike Tapp for backing Prince Harry getting security. But there is only one winner today. There's a joint second place between Jolian Morm and Mike Tapp, but the winner by an overwhelming Mike. The 79% is Red Rainer the Tax Evader.

Now, Mike, I'm very excited to say on Monday, I am actually coming into the Mike Graham show studio for the first time. But the greatest Britain today is a big signing that you have made to your channel. Do you want to reveal all on this? Are we talking about the man of the moment? He is, of course, the one and only Jeff Banks, who came to us. Sort of out of the blue, really. I'm not quite sure how Charlotte, who's our amazing producer,

she managed to reel him in. And he's such an intelligent, brilliant and successful man. You know, he started out in the valleys of South Wales. He came from poverty. He built his way up. He said he first started working when he was about 12 years of age in Lewisham, in South London. You know, he built himself into a massive fashion, iconic brand.

He's given, I wear loads of his ties all the time. It's so brilliant. He was married to Sandy Shaw. Now, I know that won't mean much to younger. Oh, my God. Eurovision Sandy Shore. Yeah, he was part of the whole swinging 60s. You know, he knew all the players.

He knew all the, you know, the rock bands. He knew the Rolling Stones. And he's such a cool guy. And he talks a lot of common sense. He's quite fond of Rupert Lowe. He's very fond of reform. He thinks reform need to be the next government because he knows that they're the only ones that can probably do it.

But he's very keen on Rupert Lowe as well. and we talk a lot of sense and he came in the other day and he's a man of probably late 70s might even be 80 and I said I haven't seen him for a lot I've been away on holiday he said no he said I've been painting

and decorating and I said why he said well I had a guy come to the house I wanted to have the outside of the house painted and he said you know what he wanted for it and I said how much and he went 28,000 quid and so he said it's got quite a big house right

so he said the help with it I'll do it I'll do it myself. So at the age of whatever he is, 78, he sent us a picture of him up a scaffolding painting the outside of his own house. No, do you know what?

He is amazing. I am so glad he's part of the Mike Graham show because I had such respect for him, actually. It was when he went and he stood outside White Chapel Tube Station, which is basically the absolute heart of Sadiq Khan's Islamist Britain. And he basically called it all out.

Yeah, but he also used to be the absolute heart of the garment business when he was a boy when he was making and he's seen it change absolutely yeah and you know he's got all these amazing stories he talked about when he was a student at um what's what's it called the uh the textile school

you know uh which is in st martin's lane I think it is this Martin's Lane kind of art school of up and he and he does the textile stuff there and he decided when he was young he'd open a shop because he rented he rented an office because he wanted to run a business so in the bottom of it he opened a shop and he said all these people started to come in and said

Would you mind if we sell our clothes here? And he said, yeah, sure. And it was people like Mary Quant and, you know, some of the biggest names in fashion of that time. You know, Twiggy used to be a friend. You know, all of these people who were part of the British fashion movement, which is now kind of, you know, disappeared all. He kind of built it all.

And he's an amazing guy. Yeah, absolutely legend. And by the way, his take on Prince Harry and Megan Markle is spot on as well. spot on. But anyway, so Mike, I will see you in the flesh on Monday morning on the Mike Graham's show. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the studio in person for the first time. We'll see you there. Thank you so much for being here today though, Mike. Thank you very much. And of course, fake news is on. The Sunday Times best seller, fake news. We hate the MSM, we hate the MSM, but you've got to admit the Sunday Times best seller still sounds

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