Dan Wootton Outspoken - STABBINGS & SLASHINGS AT SADIQ KHAN'S NOTTING HILL CARNIVAL IN LONDON AS MET POLICE BAN PATRIOTS

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Notting Hill Carnage as the Carnival from Hell turns into yet another fest of slashing, stabbing, sexual assaults, violence and bad behaviour, as the police conspire with the mains...tream media to insist it was "overwhelmingly positive” – the exact opposite approach they took to Tommy Robinson’s Unite the Kingdom rally. But if anyone dares question Sadiq Khan's Knife Fest, they are immediately derided as racist in the mainstream media. In Manchester, leftists attack a gender critical activist who dared to take his message to the increasingly degenerate Pride event full of men dressed as dogs. And in Doncaster, businessman Duncan Bannantyne predicts this is all heading to civil war. Yet this weekend, the Met Police who let Notting Hell Carnival run unabated banned UKIP leader Nick Tenconi’s No to Sharia Law March through an Islamist area of Khan’s London. He is with us live for the entire show. PLUS: Restore Britain’s Charlie Downes is detained in Canada as Milo Yiannopoulos is deported from the USA. We’ll bring you the inside story. AND: The split on the British right between Restore Britain, Reform UK and the Conservatives gets more toxic, as Rupert Lowe backs Tommy Robinson and Steve Laws quits his party. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry is just as angry with Britain and the Royal Family as he was when he left six years ago, and is still demanding an apology. So why the hell is he back? Maybe something to do with Meghan Markle ditching her engagement ring. We’ll team up with the Royal News Network for the latest. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Visit Ancestry.ca for details. Terms apply. No bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is Outspoken episode number 573, a special edition This Bank Holiday, because breaking right now, Notting Hill Carnage, as the Carnival from Hell turns into yet another fest of slashing, stabbing, sexual assaults, violence, and degenerate behaviour as the police conspire with the mainstream media to insist it is overwhelmingly positive. the exact opposite approach. They took to Tommy Robinson's, Unite the Kingdom Rally.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Police have described a Notting Hill Carnival as overwhelmingly positive and celebratory despite making 169 arrests. Well, I mean, overwhelmingly positive is what the police is saying and that's certainly the sense we've been getting this morning. Please, remove carnival from my area, please. If you've got any say on that, I have it in high park.
Starting point is 00:01:36 have. Brov. Brov. Mr Khan, Sadiq Khan, we have a real problem here. But of course, if anyone dares to question the Knife Fest, they are immediately derided as racist in the mainstream media. Glastonbury tends to be majority white, carnival majority people of colour. Do you think that might have anything to do with the reporting
Starting point is 00:02:00 that we've seen of these two events? Racism has increased in this country. This is about racism. And people need to just kind of take a step back and have a look and think, what is it about carnival we don't like? Meanwhile, in Manchester, left us attack a gender-critical activist who dared to take his message to the increasingly degenerate pride, even full of men dressed as dogs.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And in Doncaster, businessman Duncan Bannentine predicts this is all heading to civil war. Yet this is all heading to civil war. weekend the Met Police who let Not in Hell Carnival run unabated banned UKIP leader, Nick Tenconi's no to Sharia law march through an Islamist area of Kahn's London. Nick Tenconi will respond shortly. He is with us live for the entire show. Also coming up today, Restore Britain's Charlie Downs is detained in Canada. As Milo Unopolis is deported from the USA, we will bring you the inside story. The split on the British right between Restore Britain,
Starting point is 00:04:00 UK and the Conservatives gets ever more toxic as Rupert Lowe backs Tommy Robinson and Steve Laws quits his party. And Bonnie Blue gives birth to a baby in the latest sign of a British society in deep decline. Then in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow on substack, Prince Harry, just as angry with Britain and the Royal Family as he was when he left six years ago, still demanding an apology. So why the hell is he back? Is it maybe something to do with Megan Markle ditching her engagement ring? We're going to team up with the Royal News. for all of the latest on that. It's also the first greatest British and Union Jackhouse reveal of the week. Nick Tenconi has nominated Sadiq Khan for praising the Notting Hill Carnival and Prince Harry
Starting point is 00:04:43 for talking about systemic racism. I've nominated Matthew Wright for this shameful interview on LBC that I'm about to show you in a bit more detail in the digest. Do keep your superchats coming in. I know it's a bank holiday by the way, but you know what I always think, I think if you are like doing a proper job, a tough job, you know, if you're working at a supermarket, if you're cleaning up rubbish, if you're doing anything like that, working in a bank, I think you deserve the bank holiday. I don't think anyone who does a job like me, anyone at the British bashing corporation or Sly News deserves this day off. There is news to tell, so we are going to do it. Let's go. Do you remember last year, Sly News went viral all across the world for this moment,
Starting point is 00:05:32 And by the way, I used the term reporting loosely on the knotting hell carnage, otherwise known as London's Carnival. To be in his 20s has been stabbed. His injuries are not life-threatening. But overall, it's been a really peaceful and enjoyable day for people. Oh yeah. Well, today, look at it. Has already seen another fest of slashing, stabbing, sexual assaults, violence, and degenerate. degenerate behavior, with the worst yet to come, of course, because it was Family Day yesterday, now the maniacs are on the loose. But the police now conspiring with the mainstream media to push this line that Carnival was overwhelmingly positive, which I'm sure you'll notice the exact opposite approach that they took to Tommy Robinson's unite, the kingdom rallies. And guess what? Sly news. Again, at the heart of this lie. I'm going to show you their presenter, Barbara Sarah.
Starting point is 00:06:32 and left-wing correspondent Barnaby Papadopoulos, making sure viewers at home were being fed an approved narrative. Police have described the Notting Hill Carnival as overwhelmingly positive and celebratory despite making 169 arrests. The carnival's main parade will take place today with the streets of West London being transformed into a sea of colour and costume
Starting point is 00:06:59 to celebrate Caribbean heritage. Well, Barnaby Papadopoulos is there for us now. Barnaby, over to you. Well, I mean, overwhelmingly positive is what the police is saying, and that's certainly the sense we've been getting this morning. Up to 2 million people will come to Notting Hill Carnival over the course of this weekend, hundreds of thousands on the streets right now, and you can probably see over my right shoulder.
Starting point is 00:07:28 There are floats going past. I think one is just stopped there. There are people walking past. costumes. Anyone who knows Notting Hill Carnival know that it is an explosion of sound. The ground is quite literally vibrating underneath me. And it is a kaleidoscope of colour and of costume and an annual celebration of Caribbean culture on the streets of West London. Reform UK Zia Yusuf responded, this is what passes as journalism in Britain, indistinguishable from parody. And Chris Rose added if the Unite the Kingdom Rally had anywhere near 169 arrests, including two stabbings,
Starting point is 00:08:08 Sky News would never give it a glowing report to tear reporting. Now, of course, Sly News then decided to trick us even more by interviewing very well-behaved attendees and totally ignoring the terrified Notting Hill residents and petrified tourists watch. The vibe is just amazing. Everyone's having a good time and it's hope everyone has the safe carnival and we can have another 60 years of it. I think it's important to be here when you come from some culture, you know. It's a good place and I love to be here. We're ready for carnival, excited, loving it, having a blast.
Starting point is 00:08:54 The atmosphere, the culture, everyone being together, you know, give everybody a chance to try our foods. You know, it's this really good atmosphere. It's a 60th anniversary, yeah? And it's always amazing. So yes, I'm so glad to be here. It's not. It's really not. People die.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Women are stabbed to death in front of their children. That's what Notting Hill Carnival is about. And you know what the rest of the mainstream media just as bad? The so-called right wing Daily Express. Describing the carnival on their front page like this. Not in Hill Carnivals. 60 vibrant years. The British Banking,
Starting point is 00:09:30 Cushing Corporation. Treated the event as a Christmas parade. On BBC London, we're live in Notting Hill as Carnival celebrates its 60th anniversary. We'll bring you the build-up, including the music and costumes, plus of course, the all-important weather. Oh yeah. The all-important weather. No mention of the crime orgy to come. So let's get to the reality.
Starting point is 00:09:54 The Met Police put out this bizarre statement confirming that there was crime, but it was positive. It was positive, okay? the police operation for the first full day of Notting Hill Carnival has ensured that the vast majority of people who attended were able to do so safely. While officers responded to a number of incidents, as would be anticipated at an event of the scale, the mood has been overwhelmingly positive and celebratory. As of 7.45pm last night, there had been 169 arrests for offences including possession of drugs, possession of weapons, assaults, including assaults on emergency workers, and sexual offences. Of the time,
Starting point is 00:10:31 Hotel arrests, the majority took place within the event perimeter with 27 on the approaches to the event. Now, I want to contrast that with Unite the Kingdom. We're even at the biggest rally. There were 23 to 25 arrests. Overwhelming leave a public order, a handful of assaults where a minority tried to push through the police lines. No reported stabbings of members of the public. No sexual offenses listed. No convoy of registered sex offenders being scanned by facial recognition cameras, no preemptive haul of 76 zombie knives. So on one family day in West London, and as I say, the worst is happening right now in Notting Hill, but on the family day, which is meant to be the place where you take your children and it's all safe and all lovely, you get 169 arrests,
Starting point is 00:11:19 knives out, sex offenders on the loose, and sexual offence has been investigated. On a massive patriotic demonstration, you get a fraction of the arrests, and the main complaint is that some hotheads threw bottles when police tried to kettle them. The Met's own language, though, tells the story. At Carnival, they talk about, quote, the small minority who come intending to do harm while still insisting the mood is overwhelmingly positive and celebratory. At Unite the Kingdom, they called the violence, quote, wholly unacceptable,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and treated the whole event as a public order threat that required mutual aid from other forces. One event requires 7,000 officers, facial, recognition, knife arches, dispersal orders, and hundreds of preemptive bands because everyone knows what happens when the sound system start. The other is a flag-waving march that the establishment still paints as the greater damage to society. That is not policing. That is two-tier politics. And the stats from just the first day of carnival make the double standard impossible to ignore. I'm going to show you some of the chaotic scenes, but I'm going to be honest with you. I'm
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm going to be totally honest with you, because of the YouTube content management system, there are very few videos we can show because otherwise we will be censored. Such happy scenes, right? Such happy scenes. As I say, it gets a lot worse, but I can't show you that. I can tell you the worst of the UK like Mizzy. Remember Mizzy? Out for this so-called cultural festival, which has actually become symbolic, I think,
Starting point is 00:13:36 of the out-of-control nature of Lawless London. The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea typically spends around £1 million in total on facilitating the Notting Hill Carnival, a figure that includes street cleansing, waste collection, jet washing and graffiti removal. But folks, in the mainstream, remember you can't criticise
Starting point is 00:14:18 Notting Hill Carnival. It is a moment of mass social conformity that we must all pretend is fantastic. And certainly our Mayor of London Sadiq Khan doesn't give a damn about the destruction it causes. And because he is so desperate to get down with the kids, in this discussion with the British rapper A.J. Tracy, he refers to him as Brov while insisting the carnival is going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I got one more thing to say. Wait, put the camera. I got one more thing to say. Please make sure they do not remove carnival from my area, please. If you've got any say on that, I have it in high park. I have. I don't want it in high park. We need it in Labrador. So this clear, it's dear to my heart.
Starting point is 00:15:00 One of the things that I've sought to do is firstly to remind Londoners and those around the country, the history of carnival. I mean, it arose out of the community. You know it's better than I do, but those that don't come in together because of you mentioned police abuse, because of the way police were treating the communities, and it was the community rising up. There's a geographical connection to Notting Hill and the biggest carnival outside of Rio. Now, we are the victim of our success, but we can invest in making it safer. We can address the concerns people have, but as long as I'm there, it might be the world's best carnival, the Caribbean, not in all. It's very important.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Thank you very much. We've got to educate young people about the history of our great city, about the rights in the 50s and the 60s. The story is really important. People worked incredibly hard to set up the first carnival. And most of our volunteers, by the way. These are volunteers, spend the entire year getting the sound system ready. There's a lot of prep. There's a lot of prep. It's a lot of prep. Floats, the costumes.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So I'm trying to get more sponsorship as well, but you know, we're investing in very record amounts in Carnival because it matters. It's who we are. Oh, well done, brov. Well done, brov. By contrast, Reform UK has said Notting Hill Carnival should be renamed Knife Fest and should actually result in a national stop
Starting point is 00:16:12 and search day instead. Well, Jamie, what do you do? I mean, you're always at Notting Hill Carnival, Matt. You know, there's nothing I love more than Bank Holiday Monday thinking about going to Knife Fest international night. I mean, the whole thing. is an absolute sham and embarrassment. I think it's really sad for people that are from London
Starting point is 00:16:30 because the world looks at that and thinks that's what London's like and it's not what London's like. But you know, if I was Sadiq Khan, I'd make it National Stop and Search Day because the people going to that are the people that are in the profile who are carrying knives, so many of them. But the proof is in the pudding when you look at the arrest last year.
Starting point is 00:16:47 We have such double standards when it comes to politicians. You waving an England flag or United Kingdom flag or the Welsh flag or a Scottish flag, oh my God, you are breeding hatred and dishonour. into our country, but if you go to National Knife Fest, it's absolutely fine. The politicians, and it sickens me, by the way, seeing the mayor in a t-shirt, I'm sorry to be a bit petty, trying to be down with the kids, you know, it's like being all cool, I've got my white t-shirt on stage to do an interview with some cool dude. Politicians need to get a grip.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's like Andy Burnham when he went to Sainsbury's the other day and put that on to try and be cool and down with everybody. Can politicians just do their job, stop people being stabbed on the streets, stop people coming to this country illegally and actually start delivering for people? You can imagine, any talk of Carnival immediately, immediately gets you called racist, which means that this festival that actually shames London is able to continue every year. When we all know any patriotic English event with this level of violence, or actually even a fraction of the violence of Notting Hell Carnival, wouldn't last even a year.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yet Matthew Wright, the world. sort of suicidal empath operating in the liberal media, went on LBC with his guest, Newrett Matt Ta, a former Matt Superintendent, to immediately link criticism of Notting Hill Carnival with racism. Glastonbury tends to be majority white, carnival majority people of colour. Do you think that might have anything to do
Starting point is 00:18:20 with the reporting that we've seen of these two events? And do you know what? It's so predictable. It happens every year. Yeah, it's been happening and it's got more and more. A week, you know, used to be after Carnival that everybody used to kind of tear it apart. Now we start a week early, two weeks early about, oh, carnivals coming. People at Notting Hill are going to, you know, they call it Notting Hell. And it is, it is to do with it.
Starting point is 00:18:44 The images that they show is of gangs of people, you know, going with knives and things like that. So there's a big, big, big reason. And it is because, Matthew, we can't, you know, we can't shy away from. this. Racism has increased in this country. This is about racism and people need to just kind of take a step back and have a look and think, what is it about carnival we don't like? The people that are criticising, you've never been to Carnival. That I don't doubt. Absolute rubbish. I mean, it is almost the way no one feels they can call out the degeneracy of gay pride without being called homophobic. Well, I'm not afraid of that for obvious reason.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So I will call it out today, and I'm going to agree with Sharon Davies, the brilliant Sharon Davies, now a member of the House of Lords, who wrote of Manchester Pride over the weekend. Who takes their kids to see this? And why is it allowed to happen in a public space? This is not about same-sex attraction. This is a display of perversion best kept private. This is the scenes on the streets of Manchester watched by children that she was referring to. That's not normal.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's not normal. And anytime patriots try and call that out, guess what happens? The be kind leftist mob turned violent. And we saw evidence of that over the weekend as the gender critical activist Steve James, who's also known as the edge of Matrice on X, was attacked by the Be Kind Leftist. Watch. He's a, that's my property. We'll have a conversation in there.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Let's just go in here, Bob. Yeah, no worries. To leave that really be entertained to prevent a reach a piece for the time being. Oh, right, okay. And so I found out what's been on. You're also being detained
Starting point is 00:22:26 with any of the future. Okay. Yeah, I take this with me. No, you can't be detained for a free of it. And it was a truly dystopian scene because Steve James was then taken inside by the cops and they were filling out his details to give him this dispersal order,
Starting point is 00:22:41 meaning he had to leave the scene. And they said to him, what gender do you identify with? And he's like, do you not get it? I've literally got my banner. Trans women are men. And they said, we cannot assign a gender on you, sir. As GB News presenter, Ben Leo raged,
Starting point is 00:23:02 look at the absolute state of this. Violent trans activists attack a gender critical protest, abattering him and stealing his possessions. The wet white copper then asks what the victim identifies as because he can't assume gender. Then the victim is issued with the dispersal order by police to leave the area. hell is wrong with you, Greater Manchester Police. And it is this madness that we are putting up
Starting point is 00:23:24 with every single day that means there are now open predictions of civil war going mainstream. With the latest coming from the businessman and Dragons Den star Duncan Bannantine, who responding to footage of an anti-illegal immigration march in Doncaster on Saturday, organised by Unite the Right UK, wrote, this looks like the start of a civil war. I really hope I am wrong and it isn't, but our government does not appear to be doing enough to keep UK citizens happy. Watch. And that is where we get to the total maddening hypocrisy of the authorities like London's Met Police, who are allowing the Notting Hill Carnage Fest to run this year like they do every year,
Starting point is 00:24:51 while at the weekend banning. UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, who we will hear from very shortly on this, from hosting his plans Unite the People No Sharia Law March to run through an Islamist area of Kahn's London. Now Tenconi says a cabal of Marxists, socialists and liberal perverts conspired to stop the march. Watch. This is what we mean by two-tier policing. I hast this hour's on to edgeware now. I would be arrested.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Why are these people not being arrested? You have hundreds of police, bands, and you have batons. But in the end the march did continue through, a new central London route approved by the Met Police. We are at Hyde Park Corner. We are having our march, crosses, St George's flags. Lately someone said to me, said on application forms nowadays, it was England, then it was Great Britain, now it's
Starting point is 00:27:05 exclusively the United Kingdom. I say absolutely not. We draw the line at Great Britain. This is England. We are surrounded by patriots and as always by police. We've done our walk right through the socialist worker parties. The police party, sorry, the police aren't here to protect us. They're here to protect them because this is Christian courage and we're taking our country back, Patriots. But the Met Police ban celebrated by the ruling. Labour Party. With Labour MP, Georgia Gould, boasting on X, really pleased the Met Police have listened to the extent of a concern from our local community and imposed conditions on this far-right march. Businesses and local residents in Church Street and Around Edgeware Road have been
Starting point is 00:27:46 subject to increasing far-right targeting online over recent days, and they deserve to go about their lives safely and free from intimidation in their community. I will continue to stand up for our strong, diverse community that embodies British values of mutual. mutual respect and neighbourliness. Trust me, if you've walked one edgeware road lately, it's one of the dirtiest places in their country. No one gives a damn about their neighbours there. Anyway, Nick responded,
Starting point is 00:28:14 Labour claims Britain doesn't have an Islamist problem. Meanwhile, their MPs celebrate the Met Police, cowering to threats of violence from Islamist communities in London, we all know who runs the Labour Party. And to respond, Nick Tenconi joins me now live. Nick, and of course I do want to talk to you about this total two-tier situation with your no to Sharia law protest at the weekend. But first, have to come to this breaking news. Can you believe it, Nick? Slashings on the family day at Notting Hill Carnival. Literal stabings,
Starting point is 00:28:51 slashings, sexual assaults, weapons, offenses, emergency workers, abused, beaten up, the full works. And Nick, far worse is happening right now. Trust me, it's about to get. get bad because this is when it really goes off at Notting Hill Carnival, the Monday night, the Adults Day. And the Metropolitan Police say that this was overwhelmingly positive. You compare that to the way they talk about Unite the Kingdom or, for example, your event, which we will come to. Nick, how on earth is it acceptable for this Notting Hill Carnival to continue running like this? Yeah, certainly it's, I've got some numbers, but they're constantly changing.
Starting point is 00:29:33 So let's go through it. It's something like 16 million to fund the policing, which I think is problematic. And I think we need to have that conversation. Something like 76 zombie knives were found or confiscated, 13 flick knives. If you're carrying a knife, then we have to presume that you could have murderous intent. Now, that's a zero-tolerance policy to knife crime that some conservatives don't share, but it's one idea. If you're carrying a knife, some people say it's self-defense.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But there has to be the presumption there's murderous in 10, as we have a knife problem. problem in Britain rather than American brothers and sisters have a gun, a very big gun problem. We have a very knife problem. 7,000 officers since the 16 million, 169 arrests, but I've seen reports. So there are far more arrests than that. There's two confirmed slashings, 26 identified as registered sex offenders. Well, obviously, because that type of event attracts sex offenders. And we need to turn our heads to the proponents of this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:30:32 in power, Sadie Khan, formerly Kiyos Stama, people like Angela Rainer, for example, all perverts and degenerates. You can't endorse this kind of carnival. This is at the top tier level within Britain. The Met Police, again, on repeat, year after year, mostly peaceful this,
Starting point is 00:30:48 family welcoming day, that type of thing. The other, so we have to look at the proponents, or rather we need to put under a spotlight, the proponents of this event. Also, the Caribbean diaspora, or the diasporas of all the different nations that celebrate this type of degenerate culture, which is hyper-sexualized. We need to look at those cultures as well,
Starting point is 00:31:13 because there'll be an awful lot of people who identify as that part of the diaspora, who would never have anything to do with that type of event, a carnival, for example. But I want to come on to talk about how many rotten apples we've got within the barrel and at what point we start to take action. And then, of course, last but not least, there's the propaganda propaganda campaign run by the mainstream media. Anything patriotic, anything right wing, or anything Christian will get bastardized in the way that the Express have done, the clip that they've put out of me,
Starting point is 00:31:46 where there was a tussle at the beginning where we're trying to get through to our start point, the left attack us. And the real that the Daily Express have put up is me. What they'll do is rather than get me, fairly and squarely. It's a very intense situation. They'll get me saying, calling the communist scumbags, for example. The Express, by the way, which can I just say, Nick, before you go on, the Express, which is celebrating 60 years of Notting Hill Carnival on their front page, love it. So they love the Notting Hill Carnival. They're meant to be a right-wing newspaper and
Starting point is 00:32:21 they're twisting what went on, you say, at the no to Sharia law march. Sorry, I just wanted to make that comparison. Yeah, no, absolutely. No, no, I shouldn't use the word scumbag. And, you know, I'm a sinner and it's wrong and I will, you know, I will repent and I will change. But these people, these communists, these blasphemers, they are the enemies of the church. They don't, they'd never say that, as I always say, they'd never identify as communist. They'd say, no, I'm a liberal, I'm a socialist, but, but they don't understand that they are under the spell of this cultural vandalism, which stems from Marxism and godlessness. So, so the Express is just one example, which I'll give you, whereby, yeah, I shouldn't say the word scumbag, but they'll do that. And there's
Starting point is 00:32:57 about, there's about a three-minute altercation, about three, four-minute altercation. about three, four minutes altercation, where we're trying to go from point A to point B to the start point, and you've got about a 30 socialist worker party slash Green Party slash stand-up to racism types. And this is the really important point. They stood there calling us Nazis and fascists, and the police allow for it.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So in terms of fear, alarm and distress, and in terms of slinging insults, this is as egregious as it gets. All the patriots have got their own reason for that. Some of us are Irish descendants, some of us are Mediterranean, whatever. But we've all got our own story to tell about how that is so offensive to us. And it's our grandparents on my mother's side. It's all military, very, very military.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And my ancestors, like so many other people, Dan, we stood up to the Third Reich. And this constant bastardization also of the word Nazis as well. These people that oppose us are national. They themselves are socialists. They've got more in common with what they call us than we could ever have. So it's really problematic that these people are allowed to essentially try to block at the start of our march, whilst we're only there because we were banned from Islamist edgeware. That's two white chapels and now an edgeware situation.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And if you compare that to the rest of the country where we see reports, I'm sure we'll talk about two-tier policing and then, of course, two-tier justice. We are headed towards this level of fatigue in the country that can only end badly, I think. Well, I was going to say, are you supposed to. surprised when Duncan Bannantine, who is a very mainstream figure, I mean, he's actually politically clued up Duncan Bannantine. I like him a lot. He's, he's brave. But let's be honest, he is a mainstream figure, okay? He's a businessman. He was a big star of the BBC's Dragon's Den. He saw the footage from Doncaster at the weekend and just said, civil war. It's civil war. We see
Starting point is 00:34:48 what's coming. The native population are being ignored, are being trampled over. And there's lots of examples of it, Nick. Obviously, your march is just one example of that. Do you agree with him that trouble is coming now is almost inevitable when you see scenes like this out of Doncaster? The scenes out of Doncaster and on... There are many, many scenes where the radical trans lobby have proven themselves to be very, very dangerous people
Starting point is 00:35:21 in terms of their willingness to commit violence. and to carry weapons. We know that Islamism is the number one threat to national security, the Islamists, and they have murderous intent, and there is more than enough evidence to suggest that there are caches of weapons between the illegals who are potentially lots and lots of Islamists. Of course, when the government are never going to give us that data,
Starting point is 00:35:47 and then, of course, there's the people that were born here, those people that homegrown problems, even though they are subscribed, to murderous ideologies, which are foreign. They're Arab problems. They're foreign problems. They're foreign religious problems. So we know that we've got, because of the radical trans lobby, I think that's an important
Starting point is 00:36:04 point, because of radical Islam and because of the liberals and the middle center ground socialist types, which do, they tend to be very weaponized towards politics, registered to vote. They tend to be guardian readers. These people know their history as well. They've clearly picked aside, just look at Labor's lead as well. I think that this conversation about civil war comes up. frequently and I'm forced to tell our brothers and sisters this, that if the patriots or the right or the nationalists, however far to the right, you want to go with all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:36:36 the suggestion is going to end so very badly for all of us. So I'm providing a platform and a solution that steers us away from that. It is immoral, it is illegal, it is unethical, and I do not believe that God wills it. So I sincerely hope that we're wrong, Dan, because there is another way, but the other way means to unharden the heart, lower the fists and understand the mission. Nick, can you speak about the radical trans lobby? I mean, the scenes out of pride were quite something. I just, as I say, there's a lot I can't show you, Nick, like the same with Notting Hill Carnival. But Sharon Davies just posed the question. You're looking at the footage there now, Nick. Why are people taking their children to this? Your reaction to these scenes?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Well, certainly, when I launched myself with my team at street level, it was February 23 outside Drag Queen Story Hour in a pub called the Honourke Pub in Honouroke in Lewisham, London, because we saw the footage, Dan, as you know, you covered and other great people working so hard in media to try and wake people up, saw the same footage we did. Parents were taking their children to watch a man scantily clad, dressed as a prostitute,
Starting point is 00:37:48 to wander around in a tiny little skirt or whatever they're wearing. And then we thought, well, that's hugely problematic. And then we decided to find the Instagram and TikTok pages of these trans male or male, male prostitutes or whatever they call. However they identify scantily clad, we found their social media. And they are openly behaving like haws and call themselves that as well and subscribe to that sex worker trade. But we found reams and reams of this. So we put the two together, and as most of the right in Britain now know, that's where my team and I spent months in that obscure campaign in that part of the world
Starting point is 00:38:29 protesting against Drag Queen's story out, because liberal parents, socialist parents, no conservative parent would do this. They just simply wouldn't do it because of the patriotic Christian attachment to our values and the preservation of the family unit. So again, I'm forced to think, well, who's taking these people, the children, to these events? And I'm sorry, but I just don't see that it's anything other than the liberal mindset. It's live and let live.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's people that love their abortion as contraception, not in worst case scenarios, God, you know, God forbid. But they love their, we're all one big family, we're all one big peaceful family, we're all one big culture, we're all one big society that everyone can pay for and everything can be different and that that forms the new identity. Understanding the mindset of the liberal narcissist is incredibly complicated, but we have to ask ourselves, who's taking their children to things like the Notting Hill Carnival? I'm presuming that that is very dangerous and they don't.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But to these trans and pride brigades, mum and dad are saying this is inclusive. They're saying we're tolerant. They're saying, we stand with you. These people are fascists and they are deviance, degenerates and perverts. And the liberals that take their children there, what is that if that is not narcissistic personality disorder? They're subscribing to something to make themselves feel better about themselves. The thing is, Nick Tenconi, the people who are being targeted are right-wing leaders all across the globe.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And we have seen two stories of this. over the weekend. Charlie Downs, the Restore Britain spokesman, detained on entry into Canada. Milo Unopolis, the former MAGA supporter turned critic, deported from the United States of America, both shocking stories in their own ways. So it was Harris Faulkner, who was actually bringing Charlie Downs to this patriotic event for the Dominion Society in Canada, who is, interviewed Mr Downs about exactly what happened after he was detained by Canadian authorities, a situation which Elon Musk described on X as very worrying indeed. Watch. I've never even been to Canada. This is my first time in the country. I have no criminal record,
Starting point is 00:41:00 and I've never incited violence, incited terrorism or anything of the sort. I've never been banned from any other countries. I am literally just like, I'm a 25-year-old political activist who cares about my country, who cares about Canada, who cares about Europe, European civilization. And so I was then subjected to about a 20 minute long interrogation by one of these border patrol officers. And the guy himself, I mean, it struck me that he was just ticking boxes. He didn't seem politically incensed by my presence there. It seemed as though the instruction had come from on high to detain me and interrogate me in this manner. Now, look, to be clear, it's not like I was put in handcuffs. It's not like I was formally arrested. But when I tried to step out the building
Starting point is 00:41:42 at one point to get some fresh air, I was instructed to stay. I was told that I could not go outside. So that then led me to question, well, hold a minute, have I been arrested here? Right. But look, my objective was getting through the border. So I was happy to play along. And during this interrogation, some of the questions that I was asked were just astonishing. I was asked, how to restore Britain, again, the fourth largest political party in Britain, massively popular and mainstream. How Restore Britain is funded. It's funded by our members, by the way. what our policies are on deportations. I was asked whether I knew about the Dominion Society of Canada's links to neo-Nazism.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Direct quote. I was asked that. Bearing in mind the Dominion Society is, like Restore Britain, an advocacy group for the native Canadian people, seeking to restrict immigration, enact remigration, and celebrate Canadian culture and heritage. These are not extreme positions. These are, in fact, totally normal, moral and healthy positions. It is our ruling class that are the extremists for pathologize, seeking to pathologize these kinds of censors. And Alan said he felt like he was treated as a terrorist and a threat to Canadian national security. The Canadian border guards were asking you not only how Restore Britain is funded, but also about neo-Nazi links to the Dominion society.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That's correct. Okay. And they also asked me in that same kind of vein. They asked me whether I had ever traveled overseas to engage. in combat training, whether I had ever been a member of an armed militia, whether I had ever advocated for the violent overthrow of a government, none of which I've done, by the way. So I don't know who they thought they had in their custody. It seemed like they thought I was some kind of terrorist
Starting point is 00:43:22 or some kind of threat to national security, when in fact I am just a guy who loves British. Nick Tinkoni, leader of UK, this was a chilling development, wasn't it? if British right wing patriots are unable to travel into an allied country like Canada, a member of the Commonwealth, things are bad. Well, certainly, I am aware of the situation with Milo and Charlie. It was last week was a really rare week. And I really have been in the field an awful.
Starting point is 00:44:02 lot so I don't know everything down but I am just going to in the spirit of fairness let me take this opportunity to once again potentially the third or the fourth time since January of last year Rupert at some point I probably would advise you DM me or get my number from someone because we know an awful lot of the same people and let's have a meeting and if you are somebody who sees yourself as lots of other MPs would meet with me. I don't. say, but if you want to outsource it, outsource it. Now, Dan, if you'll allow me, I don't know whether this is true or not. And I am not saying that Wikipedia is correct, but I don't know the Dominion Society of Canada. So before I read this, can I ask you,
Starting point is 00:44:47 do you know who these people are? Only after this weekend's event, I was not aware of them beforehand. So I don't know who they are. So I'm invited to speak, luckily, and hopefully that is just going to be more and more. So I always vet these people. So I'm not saying that Wikipedia is right. However, it says the Dominion Society of Canada is an anti-immigration, far-right Canadian ethno-nationalist group
Starting point is 00:45:14 that was founded in 25. It has been described as the Canadian anti-hate network and as a white nationalist organization. Now, I am not saying that that is who the Dominion Society is. However, again, not for the final time either. I need to
Starting point is 00:45:30 know what Rupert, if If Rupert is commander and chief of Restore, I need to know what his political ideology is. Because as you know, what I run at UKIP and the people that I represent, the influence, the people that want to listen, the people that subscribe, they are subscribing to, as I always say, political ideology. We have to wake the nation up to what the political ideology looks and sounds like, because a lot of people still don't know. Then we have to get them registered to vote. Typically, once they understand the ideology, they'll be more involved. tends to be people who are oppressed, people who have been told to be oppressed,
Starting point is 00:46:07 minorities, sexually, racially. It's normally the oppressed people that are very switched on in politics. That's our mission. And our mission sits on the right. I call it the Christian nationalist, right? Because of putting the faith at the front of everything we do, and I use the word nationalist,
Starting point is 00:46:23 because we have gone so far in terms of mass uncontrolled immigration and the sort of degeneracy and nonsense that we've already discussed so far that we are taking the country back and that millions need. to go. But if you and I both know, if anyone wants to Google the difference between conservatism and nationalism, you will see one or two slight differences. Now, anything based on ethnicity to do with nationalism is a big red flag for us. I'm not going to speak for you, Dan, but I feel like maybe you and I are similar here. We are blue-blooded conservatives, and we reject, we acknowledge demographic replacement, which has been spearheaded by the global elite. I'm the first person to call out mass deportations
Starting point is 00:47:01 and to make sure that the traitors and those are a guilty of treason are tried. I'm the first person to say that, but we also have to take responsibility for the fact that people have their own, people sometimes marry non-whites as well, and we're carrying, killing 300,000 babies a year.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So it's a nuanced conversation. So I'm sure we're going to talk about some of it. But you're, can I just careful, you're basically saying that you would be concerned if Rupert had said it's okay for Charlie Downs to go and speak an event, which is clearly ethno-nationalist. Now, what is interesting, the Dominion Society of Canada, as I say, I knew nothing about them before this event. Police in Canada had certainly been all over the event.
Starting point is 00:47:43 The Hamilton Police had said that they were aware of the Dominion Club of Canada. They actually got their name wrong, continuing to seek an alternative venue for its Demcom conference on August the 26th. So basically the police and the sort of deep state in Canada cracking down and the Dominion Union Society of Canada did post about what happened to Charlie Downs and the fact that he was detained. But this is an organisation that has a central policy of remigration. That is a different thing though to, I mean, I'm not a big fan of the term. I mean, remigration can mean a whole load of different things, kind of. But in terms of the actual group itself, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, that's
Starting point is 00:48:50 that's saying that, yeah, so I've been, I, one of my associates has invited me to speak in Italy, in a couple of months time, he's, he's, seems like a really nice chap. And so I've called him and we've had that 30 minute rapport building session. And I have said to him, I mean, the thing is, I never, oh, sorry, sorry, no, I was just going to say, I never trust Wikipedia. That is the first thing. Because I know what Wikipedia has to say about me. That's the first thing. I know that this group has said that it is not, I mean, let me just say what they, because they say that they are a nonpartisan advocacy group for sensible nationalism and Canadian identity, denying being white nationalists or racist, and it prefers to label Canadian nationalists.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Now, that is not something that I have a problem with, you see. No, that's correct. So if that's the case, then there's no problem. But if it's not the case, and it is, there are, so to put some meat on the bone here, If you're, if you're platforming speakers and those speakers use the demographic replacement argument as a veil, then that's hugely problematic. So when we talk about demographic replacement, as I said, we acknowledge that white liberals, it's not just white liberals, but there's an enormous, abortion is used as contraception.
Starting point is 00:50:11 There's 300,000 deaths a year. The state is aware of what net migration needs to look like in order to keep business boosts. like there's so many problems that don't really that we need to take responsibility for plus also you and I both have friends who have decided to procreate with non-white skinned people so so when we talk about demographic replacement yes the state have betrayed us we were never asked multiculturalism throw that in there but there is a faction of the right who denounce conservatism who are who are full-blown nationalists who do not consider themselves to be conservative who are going down the ethnic lines with regards to to their rhetoric, their mobilisation of support, and the global elite is onto that. And no, as I've said so many times, that does not mean that they are neo-Nazis, that does not mean that they are fascists.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But I am seeing this time and time again, there is a national socialist element to the ethno-nationalist contingent on the right. There is a national socialist element to her. And I think we need to be very, very better. So would you welcome the fact that Steve Laws, for example, has quit Restore Britain over the weekend. Do you think that's a positive thing?
Starting point is 00:51:23 No, it's just an absolute disgrace. And it's making it hard and hard. It's disgrace that he was in Restore Britain. Yeah. Like, it's getting harder and harder for me to defend Rupert and Restore's position. Like, how was he allowed in? I don't, he is not, he is an activist.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And for those of you that know Steve's career, he's an activist and he's done, he's probably done good work in putting himself at risk. And again, I have no quarrel outbound with these people that they have quarrel with me because I set boundaries with ethno-nationalists. But I'm not insensitive to arguments and rhetoric around demographic replacement. I'm the first person talking about mass deportations. But let's just be clear on a few things. Talking about mass deportations, which we must do, we must push the lead dog to do.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And we, when we take power, Dan, must do. There is a world of difference between that and calls for total remigration. and advocates within the total remigration camp, you have what Nigel called the other theory. We all know what the other theory is. You have, I know the national socialist tinge when I see it, yet these people never say that. And some of them are ethno-nationalists who subscribe to national socialism, but they don't have the bulls to say it. Some of them call for total remigration, which includes Jewish people. There is that faction on the right, on the far or hard right, shall we say.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And if they just said it as it is, which is what Steve does, everyone knows where they stand. Why was he ever allowed to join the party? So, Rupert- Well, isn't it because you don't patrol the membership? And I think that's something that's quite important because if you look at what happened with Reform UK, one of the huge issues that I had is that they began to patrol their membership in quite a despicable way because they were so afraid about the mainstream media. And it started to get to the point, Nick, where people who were completely, devoted to that party in Nigel Farage and had been for years were being booted out because they may have for example, and this is not an exaggeration, this happened, reposted something about Tommy Robinson 10 years ago. For example, they were booted out of the party altogether, not allowed to stand. And so as soon as you start patrolling your membership, that is where you get into that that territory. Where is the line? And Rupert's view is that everyone is welcome in this party, but,
Starting point is 00:53:46 I'm only going to put people in senior roles who align with my policy position. I hated the way. I mean, Howard Cox, who is now causing all of this issue within Restore Britain, but he was booted out of Reform UK because he came on this show and said something positive about Tommy Robinson when he was locked up in prison. Yeah, that's right. And you see what I mean? There's two other examples.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I think one of the reform guys, he took as a caricature of the Rainbow Prize, flag being pushed into a drain and that he got kicked out for that, he posted that and another one actually that he probably shouldn't have done it, but he took the stars of the EU and turned them into swastikers and he got kicked out for that. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:54:30 fine, note, so let me say this. Rupert, I think, I really think that you should call me or text me or do something. But you're basically saying, you're saying what a lot of people are saying which is that you're worried about the internationalist side and obviously that's something that Howard Cox has said and that's
Starting point is 00:54:46 That's why I ended up joining the party. I am going to come back to this, Nick, but before we get there, I just do want to make sure we're covering off what's happened with Milo Unopolis over the weekend because it is quite a crazy story. Milo, of course, previously, big MAGA guy, British guy, but Laura Luma took issue with the fact
Starting point is 00:55:05 that he had turned on Donald Trump and posted illegal alien. Milo Unopoulos is now on an airplane back to the UK, Benny Johnson, adding Milo has already been deported, the flight has taken off. Milo will never be legally allowed back in America again. This reporting was backed up by the Daily Telegraph, and it's Washington editor Connor Stringer, who reported that his visa status was brought to the attention of senior officials
Starting point is 00:55:31 amid his increasingly hostile remarks towards the administration. Now, look, whatever you think of Milo, one thing that you can agree on, he has a wicked sense of humour. Do you know the only thing he has said? since the deportation is this. Three words. Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Alongside a picture, and I know this picture well, you know, it's one of those prompts that you get. I have to admit, Nick, you know, I'm a bit of an Uber Eats guy. I might get some KFC tonight. I have to be honest with you. And look, he's been offered up a dirty Louisiana burger. What do you think of this? Nick, is it odd that former MAGA allies are getting themselves deportation? from the United States of America,
Starting point is 00:56:17 or should Milo have made sure that his visa status was completely safe before turning on the administration? Yeah, I'm all for it. Mass deportations. So if he wasn't allowed in, too bad. Too bad. Yeah, this is, this is, um... Or if his visa had run out, I think that seems like what the situation was. My understanding is that America is bending over it,
Starting point is 00:56:42 saying we've got an app. So if you're on a visa by definition So illegal We're not talking about illegal stuff now We're talking about we know who you are You're on a visa, you're on an app We communicate with you through that app You know exactly when to leave
Starting point is 00:56:55 And also they literally ask I think it's three grand They're saying we'll pay for you to go We don't want any violence We don't any problem we just want you gone And I just that's exactly again We've written the manifesto We've got the policies
Starting point is 00:57:08 It's right there in our second mission Begin mass deportations And that's it And I think we're going to hear more and more about this, where you've got British citizens who have married or they're living in America. And as far as they're concerned, they're set. And it turns out actually, mass deportations under Trump, it's not a new thing. Obama was doing it as well. Only the left were fine with it when Obama was doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's madness. And then, of course, they just sycophants to the left. When Trump does it, they have a problem. Mass deportations have taken our country back, that's it. So whether you call it nationalism or the America first stuff, as long as we may. make sure that it's done based on these are our values. This is our religion. Religion and culture, it can be linked.
Starting point is 00:57:49 It has nothing to do with skin color. So, my question is, why on earth would Milo ever, ever outstay as visa? The split on the right is now not just between Reform UK, Restore Britain and the Conservative Party. It is also within the factions
Starting point is 00:58:11 of each of the those parties, which are arguably now at war more than the parties themselves. This week, we have seen that within Restore Britain, in part because its leader Rupert Lowe, gave a phenomenal interview, I thought, to our friend Lauren the insider, where he gave his strongest backing yet to a certain Tommy Robinson. I've met Tommy Robinson. He actually came to our rape gang. He's incredibly knowledgeable about the Quran and the Hadiths and all of the underlying causes of the Pakistani Muslim rape gang scandal. And anyone who's searching for the truth should really give him a hearing and understand that he and accept he has been right.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Now, I don't know him. I think he's been probably badly treated. He's very brave. He's spent time in prison. I think any man who stands up for what they, or woman, who stands up for what they believe in, is to be admired. And I find this sort of lack of preparedness to even engage in the debate about the Pakistanism and rape gangs. Now, what's interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:41 is that there is a wing of Restore Britain that actually does not want Rupert to align himself with Tommy Robinson at all. One of them, of course, being Steve Laws, who quit the party this week and has posted, Bailey Telegraph is about to drop an article about why I left Restore Britain, and as you can expect, it's completely misrepresenting why I left. It's pointless trying to correct them because these people are establishment mouthpieces that only want to create more problems and paint me as some sort of extraordinary. extremist, fuck him. Then you come to the reason, I guess, why Reform UK is trying to justify not entering peace talks with Restore Britain. And it is because of people like Steve Laws and people like
Starting point is 01:00:29 Tommy Robinson, both wings of Restore Britain, which Reform UK has decided makes the party too extreme. But the problem that you've got is that Reform UK is increasingly going to have to face reality that until they deal with the Restore Britain issue, they cannot even countenance entering government front page of the I newspaper over the weekend, showing new evidence that Nigel Farage's party will not be able to win while Restore Britain continues its surge. Prarj losing one in ten of his voters to the Restore Party, which is sitting at around 5%. Of course, that figure likely to only go up. And there's two schools of thought, of course, about how to deal with this. My friend Mike Graham, I was on his show today. I'm more than prepared to have this debate with him.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I think is taking the wrong approach. I think it was in the Mike Graham studio today. Yet that was great fun. Actually, it was so great to be there. And we had a great chat about all of this. but when Rupert posted Restore Britain polling just off the Greens in Scotland, according to the latest date, or a bloody good start, Mike responded, it should be a bloody good end. And so this is the idea amongst certain reformists, certain Farages, that the only solution here is just for Rupert to quit the pitch. And then the problem goes away.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You know, Rupert quits, restore Britain folds, and everyone rushes back to reform UK so Reform UK can move towards the centre. That is how they think it's going to work. I'm actually in the Peter McCormick camp, who posted Reform MPs are complaining that Restore handed the win to the Greens. There is a certain level of arrogance here. Reform are owned nothing by the public, just the honesty of their vote. It is Reform who handed the win to the Green Party disregarding the opinions of many of their voters.
Starting point is 01:02:25 One, treatment of Rupert Lowe. Two, softening policies. Three, recruiting architects of failure. Four, insulting restore voters. If Reform would like to win an election, they will not do it through persistent arrogance and belittling of voters. They have tried this. It has not worked. Now it just looks like a tantrum. Not one restore voter has changed their mind because reform has insulted them. These are the facts. Do with them what you will.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And I actually 100% agree with Peter on that. It's something I have been pointing out on this show right from the start. And remember, I was trying to help behind the scenes when I had people like Richard Tyson and Isabel Oakshot saying, Dan, it's great news that we've got rid of Rupert because all of the extremists are going to leave. And I'm saying to them, these people aren't extremists. They're the Patriots watching my show. And they're going to punish you and they're going to damage you for this decision. And it's not going to be good for you. And look at where we're at.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I also want to share with you an exchange, an interesting exchange actually, between two prominent members of each party. One, Henry Bolton, here's the defense spokesperson for Restore Britain. The other, Matt Goodwin, he was the candidate, wasn't it? I mean, people could now call him not very kindly within the party, Matt, bad loss, you know, because he did have that bad loss and didn't deal with it very well in the Gorton and Denton by-election. But anyway, Henry Bolton challenged him, saying, Matt, go and prove your statement that anyone in Restore is celebrating a green win. You can't.
Starting point is 01:03:44 The fact is that you're full of it. Your party decided to reject our offer of talks to explore where we could collaborate and on what. If you think we will stand down to give you a free pass, when all you do is attack us and fabricate false narratives, and when you aren't capable of presenting a credible plan for stopping the boats, then you're sorely mistaken. The country deserves a credible choice, not just muscular headlines from a party that assumes it has a God-given right to rule.
Starting point is 01:04:10 No party gets a free pass, none. Democracy doesn't work that way. If Nigel wants to follow us up on Rupert's offer, he knows what to do. Until then, it is you refusing to work together, not us. Matt replied, we watched your activists celebrate last night. You threw everything you had at this by-election and walked off with a lousy 10% while enabling the Greens. Great work.
Starting point is 01:04:30 You're not a patriot. You're a kamikaze ego maniac, which surely does point to the sort of nutty language coming from the reformers. Guys, it's not working. I have a lot of respect for you for certain individuals in the party. But just acting like you do have this God-given right to govern
Starting point is 01:04:54 is not working. So even if it's what you believe, strategy is not working. And I want to show you in full a conversation that has gone viral. And then I'm going to get Nick Tenconi, the leader of the UKIP party, to respond. But this is Maria Bautau. She's a senior figure within Restore Britain. But she used to be a highly regarded, despite what some of the lousy trolls on Ex are trying to say, she used to be a highly regarded member of Reform UK. I know that because I used to speak to very senior members of Reform UK who said, this woman is a star. and we want her on your show because she is going to be one of our star MPs in the future. She quit. Maria quit Reform UK to join Restore Britain.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And she gave quite a powerful argument as to why it is worth it for her making that decision, even if it risks another Labour government. You may well disagree with this, but I want you to hear her make the explanation in its full context. You're here representing a political party. We have viewers and listeners who take the view that Restore is getting in the way of either Reform UK chiefly or the Conservatives who are more established parties. And I'm putting it to you that that is a charge that is levied against your political party. But you seem not to take any responsibility or accountability for that. So it's the same as Reform's argument against the Conservative.
Starting point is 01:06:22 The Conservative said to reform, where I used to be in Reform, I used to believe that it was the answer. So I do agree that the right needs to do something. For me, I was in Reform and the Conservatives said, you're splitting the vote, you'll stop the Conservatives. Now Reform are saying the same to us. We're six months old. We have to start somewhere and we are growing. So the idea is, if they will not work with us,
Starting point is 01:06:43 we will keep that door open for a conversation, but if they will not work with us, we will keep pursuing as a national political party, these elections, and we will try and win and gain momentum. In the same way Reform did, we will try and take that. that mantle and we will continue to pioneer and keep going forward because we see that we've got the solutions in depth of policy and the quality of candidate.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Understood. Is there not a risk attached to what you're planning to do if we were to translate this to a national situation that a big chunky vote for restore Britain at the next general election could actually put a socialist government back in Downing Street? Isn't that a risk? Yes, there's always risks. And is that a risk that you're prepared to take? Yes, or I wouldn't be where I am. Understood, and thank you for being so honest. Why are you prepared to take that risk regarding the future of this country?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Because I've seen the internal workings of reform and I do not trust them to actually enact any of the things they say, just as I don't trust the Conservatives, to enact any of things they say because it's the same people who were there before. Connor Tomlinson of Tomlinson talks backed Maria on this, writing accusations of vote splitting fall flat when those making the accusations previously faced the same accusation, those making the accusations rejected a pact which would have resolved said split vote. Restore Britain supporters are good people drawn to the party for principled reasons.
Starting point is 01:08:08 If other parties have estranged them, then that is those parties' fault, not restore Britons. The good people in reform are done a disservice by their counterparts who imply reformers is entitled to the right-wing vote. Every vote must be earned. and that attitude is what drives hundreds of thousands of people away in the first place. Okay, to Nick Tenconi of UKIP, the leader of UKIP. Nick, this is a really interesting one because in the past you have thrown your electoral weight behind Reform UK. But that was before there was this growing split.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And do you agree that Reform UK doesn't have a God-given right to this vote? And also that it's unrealistic now, Nick, to just think Restore are just going to lay down their arms and walk away. That is also not going to happen. It's La La Land. It's Kuku Club. That's right. So, reform does not have, let's do this one at a time. Reform does not have any God-given right, and neither do the Tories. True.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Moving on, why would or why should Rupert and Restore fold? So I noticed that Ben-A-Beb has stepped aside and William Coulston of the, is it the SDP party? Yep. So two down. That was a shame. He's a great guy. William's well-liked. Well, is clearly well-liked and respected with it.
Starting point is 01:09:37 So, White, you wouldn't quit now. So people are taking themselves off the board. I'm positioned with something Britain hasn't had, it hasn't had before, hasn't seen before. And we will, we will stay exactly as we are launching the project. that I'm going to launch, God willing, before December 25th, which Britain so desperately needs, and it needs structure and hierarchy and financing, and it needs leadership. So we'll hold a good thought for that. I'm well positioned, my team's well positioned, and of course, we're fielding candidates.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Everyone knows if you get involved in politics, building good candidates is the hardest thing, and it is the hardest job, and it is about the team which has the best candidates and the most hardworking candidates. So Rupert is thinking, right, so it's about 29. So number one, there's talk that it's likely, psychologically, for Burnham to do a snap general
Starting point is 01:10:30 election. And if that were to happen, that he's going to happen. It's going to happen. And it's a disaster for the right, Nick. It is a disaster for the right, because it doesn't allow this deal to play out. It doesn't allow Rupert to build. It's a disaster. And of course he's going
Starting point is 01:10:46 to go early. Everyone knows it. But Rupert, believes he's going to go early too. Yeah. It's... So does Nigel? Yeah. So if, if, um, yeah. So if we, if we do the math then, so not, so Ruper has every right to be doing what he's
Starting point is 01:11:03 doing. He came in on Nigel's ticket. He's disgruntled. He has everything right. He has every right to do what he's doing. Nigel has every right to do what he's doing. Nigel's got mainstream media and millions and millions and millions of viewers. Rupert has now annexed himself from mainstream media.
Starting point is 01:11:22 So no one knows better than someone who's media trained the way you are, Dan. Can you, let's do this first. Can you win in a first past the post system in Britain? Can you win a general election without mainstream media on your side? I think potentially at the next election, if it was in 2029, but at this point, it's going to be tough. At the same time, what I would say, Nick, is that even though Nigel Farrah, has Gb News and Talk TV mainstream outlets behind him, I don't really think it's done him a big favour
Starting point is 01:11:56 because it's lulled him into a false sense of security because he goes on those platforms and is treated like God, treated like the Messiah. And he's actually forgotten the rest of the mainstream media are out to destroy me. And they are. I mean, we've seen that. We have seen that in recent weeks. The mainstream media wants to destroy Nigel Farage.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Do they want to destroy Rupert Lowe too? Well, yes, certainly the Daily Telegraph does. So I guess I would just say, I don't necessarily think Nigel Farage having the mainstream media on board is going to give him an election when either, because his poll rating has been slumping from the moment they targeted him over the Chris Harbourn, five-pound donation. But do I think Rupert needs to get outside of X? Yes. Yes, I do. I don't think you can win an election on X alone. I think X is very important, right?
Starting point is 01:12:52 It's an important platform. It sets the agenda. I love it. You know, absolutely back what Elon Musk did. Very, very important. I do think Restore drives too much of its campaign only through X. You know, I absolutely think there needs to be an element of TV. But look, YouTube is TV now.
Starting point is 01:13:10 YouTube is the biggest broadcaster in the world. And I think a lot can be done through the independent media. media. And I think Rupert will get the mainstream media too. You know, I think I think he's an irresistible figure and he will end up being on the mainstream a lot. So I guess that's a complicated answer to your question because I don't think it's as simple as just saying, oh, Nigel has the mainstream media so he's going to win because actually GV News and Talk TV just do propaganda. I don't actually think that helps him. And then the rest of the mainstream media just are out for destruction. That definitely doesn't help him.
Starting point is 01:13:44 certainly so we can do some math then so as you say rupert's very affable very likable um chap so we can do some math there so it's all it's all fair in love and war and the apologetics of nigel's case we can we can thrash out do you need the mainstream media in britain in a place like britain do you need the mainstream media potentially not um is he is he someone who is pandering to the liberal centre ground evidently so has he demonized patriots and and other, and as he removed candidates as well, yes, yes, he has. So on the one hand, the apologetics of Nigerian reform and the support that, as you mentioned, we've lent is he's the lead center right dog and he's got millions and millions of followers
Starting point is 01:14:30 and millions and millions of views. But if you compare and contrast that with the fact that Ruper isn't going anywhere and is staying on the board, he also has allowed people with profile. They're not high profile. They're not known at all, but they have a degree of profile who literally have said the most bizarre, weird and extremist things. And every single time, someone who has small amounts of profile or large amounts of profile who involves ethnicity with regards to reclaiming Christendom,
Starting point is 01:15:04 with regards to mass deportations, every single time it ruins the conservative movement. Every single time someone involves ethnicity, it ruins the right wing in terms of bastardization, in terms of spin, in terms of bias, and all the things that you already know about, not to mention the fact that it's simply not in our ideology. So you mentioned factions. So if we've done our math, right, you're on the right, you've got a Nigel faction and you've got a Rupert faction, and you've also got a snap election, which is going to be a disaster, then you've got a, so let's just say that was 27. So then let's go forward to 31, 32.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Right. So let's talk about this. Britain will remain socialist because Nigel and Rupert, apparently they're the only ones we need to talk about, won't work together. So what does working together look like? It means that the best possible candidate, whoever you've got in that constituency, must stand,
Starting point is 01:16:00 and the other person simply cannot stand. The premise here is that no deal will be done with the Tories by either party. And that's where to back up the lady you just showed in a video to show transparency from my side, I think there can be no mercy or remorse shown to the Conservatives. You absolutely have to burn the party to the ground. So we can all agree what the lady did in the video was to do the trickle down while the Tories did this about reform
Starting point is 01:16:23 and now reform are doing about Restorm. No, there is a line. So it comes to great candidates and it comes to who gets put forward. But look, I agree, Nick. I could never personally vote for the Conservative Party again. I've been very clear on that. But what I also said on the mind,
Starting point is 01:16:36 Graham showed this morning is that you also can't just wish the Conservative Party away. I agree they're not a national force. They're not going to win government again. There I was. I got my flag of the week hat on. But they are not just going away. And in certain constituencies, they are still going to play a part as we saw in Scotland. So it's a mess. It's a mess at the moment. And the problem is there needs to be a bit of time for all of this to work out. By the way, thank you so much for all of your messages Judith Dalty 7967 made a point to Nick and I think it is a fair point. She says Rupert didn't annex himself from the MSM. They've blacklisted him, even GB News.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Rupert should be running regular TV ads. And I think all of that is to play for, especially when we enter what may be the maddest general election campaign in history. Because it's going to be all to play for. nothing is off the table. No one could predict what the result is going to be. Usually I'd celebrate virtually any birth. But what does the birth of Bonnie Blue's baby say about Britain? Given this as a woman who has found international fame,
Starting point is 01:17:57 literal fortunes, is now worth more than most mainstream celebrities, by banging a thousand men in a day, by having sex with men constantly on camera while pregnant. And even once pregnant, celebrating that, celebrating that by filming herself on the toilet. I mean, this is a degenerate character in a lot of ways,
Starting point is 01:18:30 but unfortunately, she is now mainstreamed. And she does represent in many ways where this social media space is going. So this is Bonnie's baby, a prop. She posted this video, which we can take a look at celebrating the full journey, which she has shared with her fans on the sex platform. And within it, you see there that it is sexualized. it did show a whole lineup of men who were coming to have sex with her. And she believes that is appropriate to include in a video welcoming the birth of this baby.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I think surely serious questions have to be asked about whether this baby has potentially been sexually exploited, whether this baby is being abused. And this is not a woman. Let's just be clear about this. She might come across as someone who's quite glossy, but this is not a woman who should be taken seriously by anyone mainstream given she announced the birth of her baby who she has sexualized throughout the pregnancy
Starting point is 01:19:53 sitting on a toilet. Watch. I've had a baby. I'm fine. had a C-section. Baby is super, super healthy. And yes, I'm sat on toilet with shit dripping out for me. But anyway, cheers to toast. But I just think, fuck it. He's too much pressure. Even though I can normal people, obviously not, I'm not normal, but like put too much pressure on what they're going to do to do the first announcement. No point me thinking, fuck, what should I do is the first one? And then I feel like I'll be stressed about an intro.
Starting point is 01:20:25 The intro is, the baby's here. Best advice so far. the baby grows you need a lot more than what you think. I don't recommend breastfeeding. Take the laxatives as many as you can. Three, four, don't overthink it. The baby is fine. Honestly, as long as they're fed, clean, what's the other thing? Fed, clean? But part of them at, they're just sleeping and it is amazing and they're adorable and if I can do it. I don't do it. My tummy's bubbly. I think my poo's gonna come out. BRB. Nick Tenconi is the leader of the UK Party and Chief
Starting point is 01:21:06 Operating Officer of Turning Point UK. Now, Nick, I know there will be a lot of people who say, you've got to ignore this. You've got to ignore this degenerate woman. But Nick, there is now a child involved in this. And the child is clearly being brought into these stunts. Is this a woman who should be a mother? Is this a woman who the government needs to get involved with?
Starting point is 01:21:37 Well, I'm not sure. I think that this is probably for the clergy to handle, Dan. I don't have any, I don't have any words because the baby is, the baby is, she's not, she's not fit to be a mother. She's not fit to be a mother. So I said on your show maybe last year months ago, she needs to be sectioned. So what this is really about,
Starting point is 01:22:06 so it's gone from the discussion around this woman's behavior, it's gone from that. So there's now a child involved in this. So actually this is to do with state control versus libertarianism. It's to do with freedom of the individual.
Starting point is 01:22:24 And this is precisely why I fight. Because if people know their political ideology, they know that there's a small difference between liberalism and libertarianism and nationalism and conservatism, etc. And what I'm fighting for as a Christian nationalist, hence why I said what I said at the start of this, is that there's blends of liberalism, nationalism and conservatism, across economics and culture.
Starting point is 01:22:47 But on culture, this has got to stop. So what do we do? These people must be shunned. I'm talking about before the baby. They must be shunned. They must be ostracized. They must be made to feel guilt. Shame them.
Starting point is 01:23:00 We need to bring back taboos. This is how we, the question always comes up about this individual. So before the birth, this is what needs, we need to live in these societies. Then people look at themselves and go, I feel shame and this is a motivator to change. Couple that with being in, being in church and ensuring that you are understanding teachings that are laid out in the Bible. And you've got yourself favorable outcomes. Now, my point turns to the birth of the child. What happens next?
Starting point is 01:23:31 should the state intervene and take the child away from the mother? No Christian would agree to that. Just the notion of it, the state intervening at this stage, based on the fact that future harm could be brought to the child. And we devoutly believe that mum's babies, children belong with their mothers. In fact, for a very long time, actually. So the question then becomes, what is this woman capable of?
Starting point is 01:24:03 We know that she's mentally ill. We know she needs to be sectioned. And we can't trust the father either. I presume she got married. I saw some stuff that went viral where there was a ring on a finger or something like that. Well, it's unknown who the father is. I mean, she's sort of been with this guy, I believe, right from the start.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I think they were married. I haven't followed it closely. But he seemed to step away. and whether that was a stunt or not. But the point is there is now a baby in this, and she has not said that she is going to retire from the industry. As I say, she has used this to make more money by releasing videos of her doing all of this sexual stuff
Starting point is 01:24:48 while pregnant. I think it is a great concern. She'll keep going. I mean, look at that video. What do I even say to this? Look at that video. She's defecating on the toilet whilst making a video. and she knows that there are weirdo perverts out there
Starting point is 01:25:04 that are into all sorts of different things in terms of genres and she knows that she knows she knows what she's doing it's all clicks like it's all money I mean there's so many things I could say about this TikTok ban me as often as they possibly can they counsel me as long as they possibly as often but she's got she's allowed a tick she's allowed a TikTok account
Starting point is 01:25:22 how is she allowed social I get community guidelines week in week out and was killed at 50K and then again, I start again. It's like social conservative stuff and mass deportations and Christianity, etc. We get it all the time. It's absolutely infuriating. And here's this woman essentially taking part
Starting point is 01:25:41 in one of Britain's most incredible, it's a failed experiment, but for her it's a very successful experiment, of liberalism. The end result of liberalism is live and let live. It's absolutely fine to behave like this. And it really is about how much do we want the state in being involved in our culture. And if we have our way, and if we, if God does will it,
Starting point is 01:26:04 and we do take power, this is going to be dealt with. It won't. So it's kind of two conversations. It's, well, what should happen now? Well, nothing's going to happen now. It's just, it's just impossible to talk about. And it's just so heart-wrenching because of the baby's life is clearly in danger from many different perspectives. And then there's the other conversation down, which is what we'll do when we'll take power. The people need, people need leadership, family members need leadership Britain needs leadership that leadership
Starting point is 01:26:30 must be instilled into government so that we can bring back the taboos and the shaming that's required with this kind of degeneracy which has nothing to do with consenting adults over 18 but there has to be a line there has to be a line
Starting point is 01:26:43 that's the point of this there has to be a line and where is a nation are we going to draw this line yeah and no one is happy about this Nick Mark Dover D3P saying I now believe in abortion facetiously
Starting point is 01:26:55 I think, but I understand the point that you're making. Juliet Johnson saying, good answer, Nick. The clergy needs to handle this. Classy Lady 92, saying she will use anyone and anything for attention. She's disgusting. Blonde John 5538 saying she's a piece of garbage to me. I literally don't care about her and want her as far away as possible from me. Dizzy for Jesus saying Jesus heel, Bonnie Blue, but Willer 5583.
Starting point is 01:27:25 saying a freaking demon. Don't say I told you so, writing, she had a golden baby shower. I think that says everything and they should have taken her baby the second. It arrived. Yeah, it's not good. Thank you so much too for your super chats today.
Starting point is 01:27:44 G.J. U.E. Tarr, who is number one on the chat today, says Notting Hill Carnival, a clockwork orange blended with the movie Flash Dance. That's for sure. 5H3R1 D4N saying Sadistic K makes me sick. Loved you on my experience.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Thank you so much. I had a great time as well. Crafty Lass saying you should have gone to the carnage, Wooten. No, thank you. No, thank you. Julian SM 5QV saying it's got to be moved to Hyde Park. Not right that people living in Notting Hill have this mayhem
Starting point is 01:28:24 every year and a lot of you really liking Nick Tenconi today Laura Wisely XO saying love Nick and Carol Carr 7867 saying Nick Tenconi for Prime Minister Okay, it's time to reveal our Union Jackass and Greatest Britain results Nick has nominated, so have I Nick has gone for Sadiq Khan for praising the Notting Hill Carnival and Prince Harry for talking about systemic racism I've gone for Matthew Wright for saying that anyone who is talking about the Notting Hill Carnival is obviously racist. Well, if you're criticizing it, if you're criticizing the Notting Hill Carnival, it is obviously racist.
Starting point is 01:29:02 So I'm in third place for 6% of the vote, meaning Nick has won either way with any of his choice. But it's actually a very, very clear win today. Prince Harry is the runner up with 18% of the vote, but 76% of you, saying that Sadiq Khan, London's mayor, is the worst Britain in the world today. And Nick Tinkoni, this is always a somber day For those of us who were massive fans of this woman Who have you nominated as the greatest Britain? Diana Prince of Wales
Starting point is 01:29:34 And it's a night that it was I want to say it was 97 But I think that was... It was 97, yeah, it was 97. Yeah, same year Blair won And it was 4 a.m. And my mum was crying and I went downstairs So how old was I?
Starting point is 01:29:50 I don't know, 15 anyway. So look, look, it's obviously it's the anniversary today and, um, 29 years. Yeah, uh, 20 years. So, so yeah, I was about business and that. Anyway, um, look, she was an incredible, she was an incredible woman. She was an incredible woman. And, um, I think for, for me, personally, uh, look, it's a Bible quote. You do not know the hour. You do not know the hour. She was taken like so many people, taken too early. And it's just, and it's horrific what happened to her. So you don't know the hour. And she did so much good and she was loved by so many people.
Starting point is 01:30:26 So yeah. Such a good point. 36 years old, Princess Diana. And it is one of those moments. There are very few of them, actually. Very few moments. I know for my parents' generation, it was JFK, the death of JFK, the death of John Lennon on December 8th, 1980.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Death of Marilyn Monroe, the death of Elvis Presley. And for my generation, it was certainly the death of Princess Diana. One of those moments that we will never forget, certainly change the royal family forever. Nick Tenconi, very, very good choice. What is sad, of course, is that her son, Prince Harry, is not letting Princess Diana rest in peace at all. We're going to discuss that as the Royal Aftershow kicks off over on Substack
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