IT IS WHAT IT IS - FIRST TAKE FLEE, STEFON DIGGS GOT THE CITY BOYS UP & DEEN THE GREAT HELPING ADRIEN BRONER

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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Welcome back to Who is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be back, and y'all today we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret. Mo, what's good, man? All as well. Everything with you, man. I see you everywhere. Yes.

Yeah, man, I see you got those niggas got drafted and everything. Buckeye shirts. All shit, niggas' back draft was looking real good for Ohio State. Okay, baby. You looking good. I see you in the war room and all that, man. Congratulations to all the kids who made it out there. Yeah, well, no, congratulations to you.

I look up. So I thought I had a great April, right? April would real good to me. I mean, moving around other countries and everything, but at WrestleMania, her PT called you First Take Flea. So when I see you on First Take, I say, yeah, I don't know where we're going, but we're going somewhere. Yeah, man, I'm really more mad that, to be honest with you,

Everything I've been doing, man, I'm very appreciative, thank God for everything. But to be totally honest with you, I really want to apologize to you for not being in studio when you was here that the scheduling permit, man, because I wanted to be in studio, which even though we got to do it, it's like reverse roles. I was on Zoom and he was actually in the studio or shit, but I really wish I was here, but I heard everything went good, man. And thank you for even flying in and being, and participating in the studio. I'm just more mad about that than anything else, brother.

Yeah, no, I don't look at like that. I look at everything happened the way it's supposed to happen. And I really say this, man, I had the coolest time hanging out with PT. So, you know, PT my dog now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. You got some cool Harlem niggas that you know, man.

You got a whole cool of us, man. Word, man. So I just think about if, yeah, if you was out there, I'd never kicked through a PT and I end up meeting magic and we all hung out and after. knew, and obviously I knew Mason, I mean, Larry already, but I just look at it like, like life worked the way it's supposed to work, but then, and I really said, when I see you on first, like, when I seen your first take, I was like, I don't know where we going, but we're going somewhere.

Oh, yeah. Like, I ain't know what the hell is going, oh, yeah. I was like, we're going somewhere. Shit don't stop, man. Shall I just Stephen A. Smith and everybody over there, ESPN the first take for, you know, realistically for giving me the opportunity to even come up there because, you know, first thing Stephen A. Smith said to me. which is fun, is funny.

And he's like, now we're on F, I don't know the initial, FCS airwaves. FCC? FCC airwaves there. Because I said, I said, listen, bro, I would never embarrass you, bro. I got much, pardon me, my cursing is very calculated. I can feel free up here. And I said I didn't feel free up there.

It was a real good time. I had a dope time. But I know how to control myself and put myself in those rooms that I need to be in. But thank you, Stephen A. Smith, and thank you, everybody at first taking ESPN for having me up there. But it was really dope, man. I had a lot of fun.

Big perk. Jay, Joe. She, it was really dope, man. I want to tell you what I did. I ended up watching the show, but I was listening to all the answers, and I was thinking, like, how would they be answered on this show? And I was, like, laughing. I ain't going on front of it.

I would have been like, fuck as you talk about. It all. There's been a bunch of. Nickas, you are, I've been a bunch of that. That's a good way to analyze that. That was funny, Mo. That's a real good way to analyze that. Yeah.

Nah, it's all good. Like I said, in due time, we catch your, but shout out to seeing Larry and PT. We had a good time doing an interview. So, you know, when it come out, hopefully people enjoy it and, you know, just end up roller. Nah, they will. We're going to get that thing correct. Super dope. And it's also, to me, just watching.

It is so cool to see everybody winning. Like, literally everybody in the. this real one what everybody has been able to do continuously every day. It's dope and I love these healthy conversations like nobody's mad everybody has this glow like this is the dopeest thing ever. So I just have to add that in just you know y'all will always see me cheesing. I'm just happy like it's cool to be part of the winning crew like that's literally what this is. It's what this is. So and especially of course cam to see you on first take and you actually like going to bat. I'll say like obviously you and CNA have a great relationship

ready, but to have that kind of like fire go back and forth, because I feel like not everybody, like you're still yourself. A lot of people, when they get around certain people, start to like change things up. Like, obviously you're not going to curse, but like you're still who you are, which is a really dope thing that a lot of people can't do. So. Yeah, we're still fuck out of head. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get to you later, Stephen A. Big Park. He said, whoa. That was dope. That was cool. So if y'all didn't check it out, make sure y'all check it out. we're doing so cool things up here for sure. Okay, time to get into some basketball.

So the Thunder beat the Lakers 108-290. Maurice, how did you feel about game one? I don't know, man. When I first seen the come on, obviously everybody's seeing in LeBron, you know, he came off to a fast start and he came out, and I don't know, it's his version of like, you know, we're here to compete. We're not here to get ran over.

I'm pretty sure he's seen all the stats of, you know, they have a 93% chance of being swept. And so for those first five or six or seven points, I'm like, all right, you know, he's keeping that momentum from the same way that they played the Rockets. And I don't know, you know, y'all know me, right? I look at, you know, be it body language, be it the mentality of the team and all the players.

And it looked like as they were competing in the first quarter, even into the first half, because I was still, you know, flicking back and forth between the Detroit game and that game. It just looked like the OKC wasn't trying hard. And then it felt like, maybe halfway through the third quarter, like they just end up hitting another gear.

And that narrative about the 93% chance of them winning sort of kicked in. And they're just too much of a team. Like at the end of the day, the Lakers don't have the pieces to compete with OKC. And you've seen in the third or fourth quarter that they just have moved into another gear and they just basically dominated them,

you know, during the second half. And I was telling my home boy German, we was watching the game, I was like, you know, even though LeBron had done what he had done in the Houston series, I just hate to see him with those guys on the court. And I don't even think if they had Luca on the court, that it would make that much of a difference

just because I think O'KC is that good in their playing well. So I'm a huge LeBron fan. Everybody know I'm a Homer. So it was sad to see him like that in the first game. And I think just honestly talking, I think they're going to get swept. After seeing this first game, I was like, man, this ain't going way off for the Lakers. And it might be out and four from my man, LeBron, and crew.

Right. Yeah, you know, speaking of Homer, it's funny. you said that, Mo, because actually today on Netflix, I did Rich Paul and Max Kellerman show. So that comes out today for their podcast. Shout to Rich Paul, shout to Max Kellerman. So go to Netflix and check that out today. I'm on their podcast, actually.

And, you know, we was talking about, your name came up. And Rich was like, we just talking about how you on the show. And Rich, like, Mo is my man. Like, my man. I'm talking about this in the crib. I'm talking about when he went to jail. I was speaking of the nigga and all that. He's like, that's my man, my man.

So I just thought about that when you said, Homer. That nigger loves you. You got a lot of love for you, man. So, like, such as I do as well. But I think you hit the nail on the head as well. Look, the Lakers looked like they were sticking around in the beginning. And then all of a sudden, they hit some button, OKC, in the middle of third quarter, and just start to pull away.

y'all think about this. We talked about this yesterday, right? We said that the lake has been a little more active. They got a little bit of rest because they didn't have to go seven. They had six, so they had a couple days off. But shit, OKC had a week off. So we're saying that OKC maybe have some rusts. Where they're going to come and ready to play?

And I think that's what we've seen in the first half. A little bit of sluggishness, a little bit that I haven't played in a week, had some time off. And it took them to the middle of the third quarter to say, okay, we're OKC. with the defending champs. And these are old-ass Lakers. It's time to bust their ass.

That's how it looked at me. It looked like, yeah. They hit some level real quick and got niggas out of here. You know, Austin Reed, he ended up finishing with, well, let me see. Austin Reed's underfinish for eight points, but he only had one basket, talking about field goal through three and a half quarters.

You're not going to get it done with that. Austin Reed's only having that. And then back to LeBron, I just can't give this nigga enough credit. You know, Austerese get hurt, Luka get hurt. Everybody's young and every time LeBron scores, it seems

like some new record is broke, right? He's the oldest player to do a layup with his left hand underneath the basket and touch the bad board. Every time this nigga do some shit, it's a new record being broke. I never seen nothing like it. The most

minutes play now ever, the most free throw attempts, the most is, yo, God damn. He's out here fucking killing and then he still has to go out here, he still has to go out here and score 27 points and a loss and it's like, God damn, yo, I'm fucking 41 and not that that matters because he didn't interview the other day. He said, I'm kicking father Tom's ass. He might as well go look for somebody else. But at the end of the day, it's the truth, my nigga, why is he got to be 41 and doing everything? What, what, fucking Hachimoran these niggas? You go, fucking

Whatever, man, morrow. Yo, help a nigger, man. Could you help a nigger? God damn, yo. Can a nigger get some help in 41? Anybody. Anybody, yo. It was bad.

Anybody. Look, look, everybody, I mean, don't get me wrong, they're not going to be in the pluses because they didn't lose. But Harvey Moore, what fuck's that? Hachymour. Hachimor. minus 21.

Austin Reed's minus 10. Smorgas Park, minus 10. Yo, everybody's minus, minus, minus 12. Jay's like, now Luke Kinnard off the motherfucking bench. Yo, my nigger, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, minus, help a nigger out. I'd be so mad.

I'm like, yo, fuck all your young niggas. So I don't want to hear about nothing. Y'all niggas. He can't say that, but in my brain, I'm like, who raised you? y'all niggas to be players. I should not be having to do all this, man. Shout to you, La Cora.

Shout to you, my nigga. I see what's going on. You can't get it done by yourself. They got checked. They got motherfuckinckin' shay turning on whenever he wants to turn it on. Dord is out there. Even though Dord didn't have a game, he's a big

presence on the court. Jay Dubb coming off the bench, even though he motherfucking only had three. Listen, it's too much to ask for Caruso. Look, you did what you could do, bro. That's all we can say. I'm going home or two. I'm going hometown.

Go on high on this, man. Hey, I told you, we just need somebody to be messy and play this in a locker room. Yeah. Play that segment right there. Yeah. Sound bite. Somebody be messy and play that sound bite. Yeah.

Just leave a fucking recorder there and don't put it on the loudspeaker so they can't turn it off neither. That's the truth. Sometimes you need to be told the truth. And even I was discussing this in our last episode how the Thunder can play subpar and still outperform the Lakers and that's exactly what happened in this game because even all the Thunder players didn't even play as well as they usually do. I don't even think SGA played that well.

And like, you know, Jeremy McCain had a good game. But looking back on the Lakers side, and I laugh and I don't mean that because I know for them it's frustrating. But in our recent conversations, specifically, Hachimor gets a lot of the blame. And I feel like when we look at the Lakers as a whole, we're always just kind of looking at who can kind of like be that person. And I know we also say don't have expectations.

So when we take out LeBron Maris, is there any player that you are having expectations for on the Lakers or you really just kind of depend on LeBron to be that person to always be the one to take over, even though that's not necessarily what we want, but is there another player that you pinpoint and you're like, this is who I expect to at least be able to shake something up? No, I thought the player would have been Luca,

but obviously he's not playing. And then, you know, Austerese would show his flashes and you thought that he would be somebody. But even today, when SGA set like that halfway pick on him, and I seen him crumble on the ground, and we're talking about, like, literally, SGA didn't hit him that hard, right? And you just talk about just a playoff mentality,

you're on the road, getting up off the ground, even when you hurt just showing a level of toughness, like that wasn't there. And so those are like small signs, but like, yo, these niggas really don't want to win. You know what I'm saying? And Cam was, I know Ken was being, he was joking, but he was serious.

Like you ask yourself at 41 nigger, we can't get help from anybody. Like you don't have some fight. Not joking. Yeah. There's nobody here to help. There's nobody. Like, I give you a prime example. You don't know, you don't have to know basketball to know that people are giving a lot of effort.

You don't have to know basketball to see people are fighting over screens. You don't have to know basketball to see if a person's rushing to the basket when a shot goes up or if they're just trying to fight. And when it looks like people just don't really care about losing, like LeBron at the beginning of the game looked like he was coming to set the tone to send a message to his team. Now, he's the oldest guy. The oldest guy shouldn't be doing that to set the tone for the team. It should be the young guys.

And then he's supposed to be a complimentary piece. He's not supposed to be the focal point. And so we've talked the whole season about him being a role player and playing his role and him being a different option. But he can't be the focal point and do everything without help from other people. And that's the bottom line. Yeah, I think that this is what happened. Austin Reeves come back.

Luke Knorrholl loses his starting job, and now he's reduced back to a role player when he was actually a key player in that series against Houston to get y'all next to the next round. And now his brain is back to being a role player. I think when you, don't get me wrong, what are you doing that situation?

You say, don't start Austin Reeves, somebody who was in the back court with Luca and they was averaging the most points in the NBA as a back court, 56 points between both. them. Do you say don't start him and keep Luke Kinnard as a point as the start? It's a tough decision as a coach. But at the same time, you got to go with what chemistry is working with right now. And I'm not calling OKC, the Houston Rockets. But shit worked out with Luke Kinnard

in the starting lineup. Austin Reeves, I don't know if it's necessarily working out. I'm not saying he may not be 100%. I don't know. I have no idea. These are questions that are kind of rhetorical because I don't have the answer. This is why JJ Reddick is getting paid millions of dollars to figure this shit the fuck out. But losing by 18 points is not a good sign. The best thing that they could hope for now is maybe get one next game. But going down 02, we know what the writing's on the wall. Maybe you get one.

But OKC has won six straight playoff games dating back to last year. They haven't lost this year in the playoffs yet. and they look very, very impressive. And like, like Statt just said, they didn't play that good at all. Imagine not playing that good and then went by 18. Damn, we ain't played that good. We could do better. It's crazy.

Yes, wow. Not okay C though. It's crazy. Okay, on to the next game. Pistons beat the Cavs 11 to 101. Maurice, what did you take away from this game? Yeah, being a home. I was embarrassed.

And they can play this in the locker room. That is like not Northeast Ohio, Cleveland mentality basketball. And so if you call it for what it is, like Cleveland just soft. And, you know, I put in the group chat during the game. Like when I was saying Kay Cunningham getting to the basket at wheel, Tobias Harris getting to the basket at wheel, and like they say in basketball, you want high percentage shots and you have to have somebody to be a force player in the middle.

Like all of these baskets that they were attempted at essentially brought the league. to them and made them take over the game was all in the paint. And I say the same thing in the group chat. I said, man, is James Hardin' Sleep? Like, you're not going to get that much productivity out of Donna for Mitchell, or he's going to be the tie Turner for Cleveland. You know, it's not going to be able to happen. And so it also looks like Detroit, you know, from them catching that momentum for one of the

Magic Series, they brought that momentum into the current series and they want to win. And at the end of the day, when it comes down to it, Detroit has the mentality right now. like we want to win. We've taken on the mentality of J.B. Bickersav, and we're tougher than you. And it just looked like that mentality. That's not a Cleveland North East. I don't know how I'll do. It's not, that's not the mentality.

They didn't brought these dudes in from wherever they brought these dudes in. And that's just not going to cut it. I'm being serious. They can play that. You know, wherever they came in from, that's not how we play basketball. That's not our mentality. That's not an Ohio mentality. That's not a North East Ohio, Cleveland dudes are grungy.

tough, hard dog dudes. You know what I'm saying? That's all through there. And so that's not going to do it. So that's my thoughts on the game. Look, I was saying this last series, I'm talking about Detroit right now. Who's going to help Kay cut him out? And it seems like help has arrived.

Yeah. Tobias Harris, you know, last game, 30 points. This game, 20 points. Even though he didn't shoot magnificent. He shot 6 for 14. 20 points from Tobias Harris, we'll take it. Sorry, Stad, Duncan Robinson. I don't know.

Why y'all get rid of him? We got rid of him. We got rid of him. We got rid of a lot of people. I don't know. All right. I liked him. Yeah, yeah, I like him too.

You're like, clearly. Yeah, the nigga 5 from 8 from 3. He from this with 19 points. I'll just try and figure out because, you know, when you got a nigga, I don't know if you know who Kyle Corver is, right? Yeah. Yeah, Duncan Robinson, like, Like that Cal Covey vibe.

Like, Kyle Cover kept a job until he was 39 years old because he could shoot. Niggas like that going to keep a job. I don't know. Maybe I was like, there's only room for one nice white boy over here. I kept a hero. Hero. So, I don't know.

You know, I'm looking at the shooting percentage. And outside of Thompson, nobody even shot 50% in the start a lineup. So back to what Mo was saying. And they got out dog, pause. the toughness, the 50-50 balls, the loose balls, all that matters. Tangibles. Yeah, when it comes to winning the game, and especially in the playoffs. Isaiah Stewart, six points off the bench.

They look, they're pretty good as well. And then Jenkins again, Jenkins had a great game against Orlando Game 7. Then last night, he also finished with 12 points. So when I'm looking sitting here at looking at the Cleveland Cavalier started, right. Let's just go with the starters, right? Let's go Dean Wade, minus four. Jared Allen, plus four. Evan Mobley, minus 18, James Hart and minus seven,

Donovan Mitchell, minus seven. So you got the top three players, Evan Mobley, James Hart, and Donovan Mitchell at a combined, what, minus 32 points? That's not going to work. That's not going to work. Like I said, I've been on the record saying that Cleveland has the most talented backcourt when we first seen this trade happen. Being the most talented may not equal in the wins because the chemistry may actually set it too. It may not have been enough time for them to blend in well.

We kind of seen this with LeBron and D. Wade when they first got there trying to figure it out and it cost them a championship. Not saying that Cleveland can't make a comeback and figure this thing out. But I'm going seven games with the Raptors. I was really, really shocked about this. I'm not too shocked about this loss. If they lose the next game, I wouldn't be shocked. But I will be shocked as if they lose one at home. So I'll see what happens.

But Detroit, it seems like they found their mojo. The last two games before this game even started with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They figured something out. And we're on the verge of saying, oh, man, the number one season is going to get bumped by a playing team or number eight seed or so on and so forth. and Kay Cudahan, the boys rallied and figured it out. So congratulations to them

on winning this game. Cleveland, sense of urgency, should kick in immediately. Yeah, and it looks, it's looking like the pistons are going to be able to continue to rally.

I know we don't want to say, like, come to conclusions too early because we saw how that happened with the magic when I gave in that prediction, but I don't know. It's looking good for them. And back to Duncan,

I'm still, yeah, I'm thinking about it because he was our, um, franchise leader and three points made. And even the trade to me didn't really make that much sense, but the heat does some things here and there that don't make that much sense.

But still go ye. You know, y'all get it. Okay. Moving on to football, actually. So former New England Patriots receiver, Stefan Diggs, was found not guilty of assaulting his personal chef in a case marked by conflicting accounts of what happened inside his home after disputes over money and their relationship. So the chef actually had a couple viral moments in the court, then even off out of the court,

because there was actually a video of her dancing that got leaked after the alleged attack. So a lot of things going on there. Make sure you guys do your due diligence to see a little bit more of what happened. But Marie's just looking at how that case kind of went down, obviously seeing the results and seeing the clips from the chef and then just inside the court, outside the court. How do you think, if you're Stefan, how do you think you should move differently and positively going forward because we're seeing that this has kind of poured into not just like off the field issues but also his personal life and what could potentially happen

in his next landing spot. Yeah, sometimes it's unfortunate but it typically takes either public embarrassments or tragic situations for you to wake up. You know, every time somebody gives me, like I use myself for instance, right? Every time somebody would give me advice or somebody would say, hey, this thing could go wrong or you could end up in a scenario, you know, you kind of take it with a grain of salt. You believe that things can't happen to you, you know, being with

women, be it with friends, be with everything. You just don't think these things can play out and negatively affect you. But it's nothing like sitting in the courtroom and then when you're a high profile athlete or you're an entertainer, those things seem to wake you up more than anything because those are real direct consequences, those are real prosecutors,

those are real judges. And you start to realize either the things that you've lost are things that you can lose behind these decisions. So one, the fact that he's not guilty, there's two things I wanted to say. One, I'm happy because a lot of stuff, people in this era, and even in errors before, they'll accuse you of crimes.

And then just like in Deshaun Watch's situation, they'll extort you. They'll publicly extort you because they'll want to embarrass you and try to get a money grab. And from what was given in the case, it looked like that this was a money grab to some degree. and I'm happy that it was revealed that,

and hopefully that deters other women who may look to accuse guys of these crimes that, hey, I might have to go to court and I might be embarrassed and I might have to have my walk of shame and I can't get a money grab from that. But then for him, you know, he loves women and likes to play with him,

and, you know, that's not like I'm saying nothing that I have an opinion on. But hopefully that encourages him to, you know, just be a little bit more control with how he moves, you know what I'm saying? So you don't put yourself in these situations because it could be a scenario where you could lose everything behind, you know, somebody who wasn't worth it. And what's the question that exactly?

Yeah, basically, if you're Stefan, how do you move differently and positively going forward? Because we've just seen a lot of issues surrounding. I just really seen the clips. I haven't really dove into the case. I did see him not guilty. I did see the video you talk about the girl dancing after this alleged incident happened. So it's good that he had footage of this female, you know, you know, You know, basically having a good time after this so-called incident actually happened.

But I'll just say this. City boy, he's up 200, baby. Wow. Lisa! Yeah. Yeah. No. He up 200, baby.

Get them stuff. I don't think. You consider yourself a city boy? I'm from the city. No, I know from the city, but that's like a different. Way to move like City Boy. Do you consider yourself that? I don't know which your version of City Boy is because you're a country girl to me.

I'm from the city. Suburban girl. I'll take country though. I don't mean a disrespect. I don't see that about a thing. I'm not. We got the cows. We got the horses.

Yeah, we got the rats, the roaches, the trains, the subways, all that shit. So when I say City Boys, Harlem, City Boys, I don't know. I don't know which are these. The names are different. That's why I asked. What City Boys mean? to you. City Boy, to me, is a little more grit. Like, they

just, and not because of where they actually grew up, but they just don't care very much. This niggas the city boys. What are you talking about? But I just have, maybe I have a different view. I guess you are. What do you mean? He's the thing. I see it more negatively. He's on the council for city boys, I promise

you. Well, anyway, just because I say city boys up, that don't mean I'm damn. Then city boys up. It's step on dick city boys? Yeah. I, city boys up. Aye.

I'm not down. But let's just say if she can sit in stuff on dick, city boys, city boys up. They're definitely a city boy. I guess you're right. Like as you're describing it,

I'm like, yeah, but when I hear city boys up, I'm like, ugh. But I guess. When they say city girls is up, you think like clock it.

It's clocking when city girls up. I still don't like not either. It's a clock it. It is. City girls. It is. Stat down with Meg. It is.

But I don't like the whole city girl thing either. Like, I don't think you should just like, what they say? Get that bread, get that, then leave. I don't think like that. And so I guess it's the same. I don't know. I guess the situation. I just think the shit sounds cool.

I'm from the city. So I'm figured I'm a city boy. I'm from a real city. Like, I'm not from where niggas be like, yo, let's go to the city. And then like you say, you see a cow. Like, you know, so I don't, I don't know. Whatever.

Congress stuff on Diggs. I'm happy that you didn't get indicted for this. Well, I'd have to get found guilty of this shit because you obviously have footage and proof. And listen, I don't want to not being sensitive either to the female who's involved in this. I don't know.

I didn't really do the homework on it, but if I'm going off the clips of what I've seen and the evidence that I heard, I'm just saying city boys up 200. My bad city girls, if y'all felt like y'all got played in this scenario. but I don't know too much about it. So I just ended with City Boys up 200

because he won the case. And I seen a girl twerking after this was supposed to happen. If somebody suffocated me. Right after. Yeah, somebody suffocated me. And what else she did? Suffocate, what else? Choke-out?

Yeah. I'm not getting up twerking. Typical shit. Yeah, I don't, yeah. So, yeah, so. And it was saying it was a disagreement over a plan trip to Miami. Like, I don't really. know the full, full, full, full details.

Obviously, I did my research on the case. And so when I make my comments to the city boys, it's just because it's like him, like, city boys look at, like, that was funny. But when you look at the case and you look at the details and everything that has unfold, it does look crazy on the girls part. And I hate when things like that happen

because... No, I can't say that, though. Like, I'm not saying that. I'm not going for all the city boys. But in this particular case, She tried it. In this case, that's what I'm talking about. City boys up in this case. She tried it.

I can't. She tried it. You just said this city. No, it looks trifling. Like, the whole thing is crazy. I know. Like, and even her talking to, just the whole thing look crazy. I know Kim is like, girl, that's what I just said.

And I get it. I understand. I'm just not saying City Boys up. But I don't know. It was dating. He curved up. And then she said she wanted to be his own. She was his chef.

His chef. And she was seeing the other girls. And then you know how that gobo woman was. with the emotion, she got mad, and here we are. They were saying it looked like she regretted following through with the whole thing because she didn't think it wasn't going to get that far. Oh, see, you're not explaining that. That's what social media says.

That's what social media says. That's his old girl first before a chef. They're saying they were messing around. Yes. Hey. So these boys are up a thousand. You, a matter of fact, I don't want to fuck you no more. Just be my chef.

Yeah, it was one of those. And, yo, and handled all these bitches that's going to be coming through. And you know how that. Cardi coming over, you know what she liked. Taco Tuesday, nigga. Fixing it out. They're getting bags and shoes and she's not getting none. Yeah.

You getting paid to cook? Yeah, she doesn't like that. Your nigga smothered me. Yeah, he choked me. Yeah. Chills. City girls down for 2000. Look, what is that?

City girls get down bad. The whole thing is crazy. No, I don't even have anything to say. I don't even have anything to add. Like, it's crazy. You always got something to say. No, I really don't because it's crazy. It looks crazy.

And I hate that because I just feel like when you start messing with people's reputations, like I just, I do not like that. So I think it goes back to what Mo says is a lot of times they do that up front to like try to get you to try to pay. And then when you go through it and say, no, I'm not doing that. Then shout out to him for standing up for himself and having enough proof to make sure that she didn't do that. Because a lot of times people settle out of court just because they don't want to. to affect their reputation of what's going, like you said. So let me say something, Larry.

So what I hate is that the accusations bring damage already. There's certain accusations that when somebody accuse you or something, there's people who don't want to stand next to you because they say, ah, I don't really want to be bothered with that. Everybody doesn't have the courage to stand next to you. So people get into this habit, like let me accuse them, let me run this route on him and, you know, they'll listen to Tony Busby or all these like ambulance chasing

and sort of like, I want to say Ambrose Chase, that's a bad way of phrasing it, but people who press celebrities or press people who are in an entertainment field for money. And so we would slander, Stefan Diggs, if he was guilty, we would call him everything, but the son of God, and we take his career from him, you'll take everything from him and all his money,

and then you'll say, oh, look at all these women, they'll show pictures of him on boats, but then when the woman does this raggedy stuff, like there's no consequence, and that's the part that I don't like. You could just go ahead and accuse somebody, and there's nothing that you, like, gets to walk away and fade into black and she there's nothing loose you know what I'm saying

she'll get embarrassed but then she'll be afraid about this in two weeks so there is something to a lot of times when they lose that you can sue them for um you can sue them afterwards um to get your money back for um lawyer fee yeah lawyer fees 100 percent you ain't got no money I think I think they should lock all women up who did that but see the whole thing is that's it that's the thing about that Right? I thought about that too. Because some women admit they wrong after you in the middle of trial. She followed through with it. Now, you should be able to press charges.

Yeah, you should lock up. So I agree. Now, let me even press charges on you. But some women will be like, yeah, I was lying. This, that third. If you do that, some of these women that get a guilty conscience in the middle would be like, nah, it's not worth going to jail. But I do think it should be a penalty for you trying to get me put in jail that I could put you in jail.

That shit is fucked to fuck up. So let me ask you another question, though. Do y'all think that all the freaky stuff that came out since y'all's reputation was tainted? Is that going to make the freaky abroad go at him even more? Is he going to, like, you know what I'm saying? Because all the freaking. What freaky stuff came out?

It was a lot of great. I heard a lot of various things, not even just. So now is he going to be in the club and a girl going to be like. Yo, the whole shit is stuff on this is get a lot of chicks, man. Yeah. He gets a lot of chicks, man. Listen, I don't know what happened with him and Cardi. I'm not in their business.

So I think that they had a great thing going on when I was looking at it. But even Cardi was cool with some of the things he was doing. I don't know what made them fall out eventually, but he makes, he had females understanding what was going on. I remember I was on the show saying I'm jealous of the nigga. He had all the girls just cool and everything else. I'm like, yo, man, you get all your females to be cool with each other is amazing, man, and be real, real. One big family. I thought that was amazing, man.

what I learned. Flee, everything is good in Dandy until they told no. That first no, everything. Everything is wrong. I can't call that. I don't know.

Everything is bad. I don't know. Yobly told her no, she can't be his girl. She took the chef job. Yeah, because she could still stick around. Yeah. And he was still paying her, too, at one point. Yeah, he was.

$2,000 a week? Yeah, $2,000 a week, I think he was given her. Still, even after he told her to get out and be done. But the emotions involved, Lavin'i, you know. She wanted a, she wanted a restaurant. That was the big thing. She wanted the restaurant. And still be when, emotionally.

I didn't know that. I know she was like, I didn't get my restaurant. That was the big fight. Some city boys of three cops. Oh, boy. I don't know, y'all. Shantan stole a restaurant out of niggas. Where's my restaurant?

Yes. Or I'm going to go. And he was like, whatever. He was like, whatever. Where's my restaurant? Where's my restaurant? I'm tired of cooking for these women. Where's my restaurant?

I'm going to go to my restaurant and eat. Okay. Just going to roll past these lines. Yeah, I don't have anything to disagree with. I don't know. But shout out. But what I will say is this, because the question is, what does he do to put itself in a better situation.

Yeah, it's moving forward. It sounds like you gotta figure it out. You won the case. Yeah? All my other bitches acting right. Yeah, but this one. Yeah, this is the only one I get crazy. Out is 9-92 bitches.

Yeah, let's get her out of here. Yeah, let's get her out of here. And that's when you got your other girl saying, I told you about her from the jump. Didn't I tell you about her? She wasn't your type. Yeah, no. She didn't want to fall in loud.

I told you when you was going to practice, she was talking shit. Mm-hmm. I told you this. want to listen. The ratio for him is good. I mean, he's definitely chilling. He's winning. He's winning. He's chilling.

I mean, he's just, I mean, he's a free agent now, so now the conversation talks happen. Now that we know that it's not guilty, but that was a whole lot going on. I do want to ask y'all this before we go to break just because I'm genuinely asking and I'm curious, do you guys feel like

there's a public figure who had a bad reputation but was able to completely turn it around, or do you feel like that's a rare case nowadays. Because with cancel culture and social media, I can't even physically think of somebody right now, but I'm curious if anybody comes to mind for y'all, Maurice. Yeah, outside of myself, I don't know.

My reputation was bad for a while, and this show kind of helped turn my shit around. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, I can get my, I don't know, Ray Lewis. There we go. You know, Ray Lewis is that? Yes.

Okay. I don't know. The Ray Lewis situation is probably the craziest situation that I've seen somebody turn around, so there's that one. That's hard. You know, that's a great question. You know why that's a great question? Because even if you turn your life around,

and maybe somebody else in public opinion and be like, I don't care, he's the one who did this or he's the one who did that. So you may have, let's just use a round number like 100 people. You may have a majority of 91 people who say, no, he made a great change for itself, but you still have that other nine people saying, I don't have a nigga, he ain't never going

to change. That's him. Trust me. It'll show in due time. And it may never show in due time. So in public perception, you're never going to be not good. Look, you can say, and we got the best example in the world on this show, OJ Simpson. Oh, Jay, yeah.

You can't be a better example than that. He just felt not give Nobody cares. I don't care what you say. The niggas guilty. Everybody. And, but the court of law say he wasn't guilty. How are y'all still considering him guilty if the court of law, if that's what we're going by

in America says he's not guilty? What's the problem? Fuck that. They got it wrong as time. So, I mean, it's really on your perception on what you want to think. I think that's the highest of highest. Yeah. Let us know who comes to mind in the comments down below.

comments down below, but on the discussion of turning your life around, Delante West and Michael Beasley are getting together for a podcast. We will discuss after the break. She called this thing about toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, baby. She's tired of hearing I don't know. What's stubborn in me? Welcome for oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about she wanted to be free why am I? Welcome back. So Michael Beasley and Delante West teamed up for a new podcast called Shut Up and Dribble.

So they're promising to speak on everything from the league to real life. As we know, Delante West had struggled with some homelessness, addiction, mental health issues. So since we're on the topic of turning your life around and then seeing people enter new spaces, Maurice, what's your opinion on this duo? Yeah, I thought two things of it. The first one I thought it's going to be funny, but in a good way. Not like funny, like laugh at him.

I think Michael Beasley is entertaining when he tells stories. I think that he's so politically incorrect and raw with telling stuff. It's like when you're in the hood, listen to somebody tell stories. They'll tell you some crazy shit and it's funny in like a hood way. And that's what I see when Michael Beasley talking to people and answering questions and talking about his personal life. But on another note, I also think that he's so raw with how he operates.

I think even with Delante West, he may open up to somebody like Michael Beasie versus, you know, various people who try to come in his life and talk to him. And it may be therapeutic for Delante West. You know, everybody's seen over the last, you know, I guess 10 years now or however long he's been on the streets, people, you know, showing social media videos of him. And everybody kind of seen he struggle with drugs, but for him to have 100 days sober, that's good. But then even for him to sit down with somebody who he may think is this peer that played basketball, but also somebody who had personal issues and, you know, kind of navigated him. He's just in a better space. I think that may be helpful.

You know, just talking about your life and talking about what's going on is helpful in a thousand different ways. You know, I'll say that, you know, like I remember Mace was, or not Mace, Cam was talking about Mace when he said Mace does music, but he might do it from a therapeutic standpoint. That may be true. So I think other people need spaces to, you know, to share their thoughts, share their feelings, and this may be a platform for him to do so. Yeah, listen, man.

I've seen Michael Beasley very raw and uncut, like Moja said. I actually just seen an interview with Shannon Sharp, where he actually broke down and started crying as well and was talking about the death for his family. And that shit was really an emotional interview, man. And I was like, you know, that's fucked up, man. He was explaining how to have the wrong shorts on.

And then one game, they showed the clip. And I'm like, I remember that game. People thought he was bugging. But he was actually going through something. And I was watching that. I was like, I'll fuck with Michael Beasley. I always did, but I was like, you know, it's tough to sit there and let yourself go pour,

so to speak, in front of a stranger. You know, I'm not saying he don't know Shannon Sharp, but obviously when you do stuff like that to me, you can't talk to people you know about it. and that shit is sitting inside you pours so long that one day it's going to explode because you want to just get it out on how you pause or how you really feel about

what's going on. And death in your family, he was mom, his cousin, whoever it was. I thought it's cool. And then on the other side of that, I think he's super entertaining. When he was playing basketball and the three on three,

he was telling niggas, yeah, I'm going to fuck you tonight. And I'm like, you know, what kind of, I don't know if I want to play basketball with a nigga like that. He said, get up here so I can dig all in your ass. I'm like, what? That's a hell of a mind-fuck game and be playing with a nigga before the basketball

game start, my nigga. You got a wow. I don't know if I'm going to play that game. So I do think that he's going to be uncut and honest. So that's Michael Beasley. And then we do see how Delante what has been struggling. I don't know if his drugs

or liquor or mental health illness or whatever it is, but we see him struggling. And then I've seen a post saying he's 100 days sober, which is a big deal. So that's great for him. And I don't know if I want to necessarily hear everything Delante was been through. I think people would like to hear it, but until they hear certain things, it'll be definitely interesting. The reason I say this, right, I had a home girl, and you wouldn't even know it.

She used to smoke crack and take meth. She's white. and um I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm just like I'm sorry y'all I'm sorry

this is a little silly day for me what that was just like not a normal sentence it was a lot sorry this is a new lie for me you guys you know why because the reason

I lament that she was white because when you think it crack as you think of urban black Spanish is like, you know, look at the fucking niggery crackheads. You think they don't say niggery, but you think crackheads is mostly black as white crackheads too. So she was a functional cracker.

You wouldn't even know she smoked crack. She smoked crack by accident. And then that's how crack is. You can't even smoke in by accident, you know, and got hooked. But she got off of it. She was clean. And we was all chilling one day.

Like, now I know crack house or nothing in the good. environment. I'm sorry. You have dead-hous. It's a restaurant. And I wish I could tell the old story like people's name, because my home girl was cool.

Make a long story. Let me just fast forward to what I have to say. She was like, yeah, I got to get ready to get out of here. I got to go to a meeting. I'm like, what kind of meeting you're going to? She's like, that's where I found out all the crack and everything. And she was like, well, one of these meetings. So it's like an alcohol anonymous for drug addicts

and she's like, I gotta go. I was like, can I go? She's like, you serious? I said, yeah, I want to sit in that shit. She said, yo, camera's dark. That's not why we thought. Yo, it's really dark in there. I'm telling you that now.

And I'm like, all right. She's like, so you. And that shit was darker than I thought. Yo, Phil, you go in there. The shit did people do this on drugs? Yo, my nigger, they even just in the movies as well. worst, my nigga. Yo, they eat in ass, pores.

They sell, you, family, shit. I left the meeting. I left out about 15 minutes into it. I said, yo, I gotta get out. She said, yeah, I told you, I got to stay. So I don't do it. Like, she really got to stay. But I don't know how far, the reason I'm benching all that,

I don't know how far Delante's what story's going to go. Is this shit dark, dark? Because I'm telling you, now, that 15 minutes in that one meeting that I went to, that was dark, Vader dark. That's dark Vader dark. That shit was dark, my nigger. So I don't know if I want to hear everything Delante West has to say. They keep it basketball and a little bit of drugs.

I'll tune in. I don't want to go too deep, boss. That's what it will take. Okay, one more turning your life around type of situation that we got here. So Adrian Broner and Dean the Great have been streaming together, not twitching, streaming. Because it's on kick. So they've been kicking. They've been kicking it.

They've been kicking. Maybe I'll catch on one day. I'm not there yet. But there's a lot of bearing opinions regarding the content that they should make together. You ever see somebody like, yeah, that dress ain't dressing. I do say that. You're right.

No, you're right. I made that slogan up. I started that. I did. Ain't dressing. I did that whole shit. I get the computers, puberty, boosters, boost, and all that. That's me.

Now, niggins are all right. They're dressing. You like 20 years late. So may take you some time and get the kicking. And laughing, laughing, Yo, this money ain't, oh, that's me. This is what I'm trying to tell you, I'm gonna trace a day, like, I'm sorry, Stead,

but you go, I said you a song when it started 2004. I heard it. Yeah, there you go. I did, yeah, there you go, thank you, man. So, I'm sorry, you know. Yeah, thank you, man. But I might start using Twitching, I don't know, we'll see. Yo, be the first nigger.

Jaze the do it, y'all, you're twitching the night? Or let's twitch it out. They kick it? Yeah, let's kick it. It only works because you're cool. Because if you weren't, I'd be like, I don't want to use twitching. Yeah, but the whole thing is right. I may not be cool to the nurse.

You are. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, like, some people be like, you're not cool. No, but exactly that. Like, it's a thing. There's some people that say stuff that's cool. And there's some people that say stuff that don't. Yeah.

Like my dad, like he says young cats. I hate that. that. But like, that's how he taught. Like, what is a young cat? But if somebody else said it, that I'm not that my dad's not cool, again, that's my dog. I'm like, no, I'm not using it. These young cats, you're a little older than me. I hate that. I hate that. Is that because he's telling you the cat's age? No, he'd just be like, I don't know these young cats. I don't know these cats. I'm like, why do you keep doing that? Because they're cats. What do you? What do you say? You're younger than me. I'm like, all right. That's pretty. That's all right. That's all right.

No, it's not He's right Shout out Popper Tad though I think I missed the cats I'm right after the cats I don't know these young cats Jive turkey

Yeah That one I don't know about that one But yes Back to Dean the Great And A B Agent Brunner has now become verified on kick

Which actually allows him To earn money On his own platform Maurice how do you feel about this collaboration Yeah you know Obviously I got makes feelings I'm still a whole

Some will say Ohio. But, you know, obviously if you've seen some of the clips online, you see my man, A, B. You know, he's doing things that if you understand addiction and you understand somebody who's chasing a bottle, like you just don't agree with. You know, don't nobody want to see their three-time champion or just a human being, you know, just consistently exploited on some level drinking like that. So that's the home of me. I want to see our Ohio champion be, you know, in a better place and space. But then also, I don't judge it because I struggle with drinking. I know how hard it is to stop drinking and quitting it and so on and so forth from them.

You mix in that he's probably in survival mode. You know, survival being that, you know, you probably need the money. So more than anything, man, I tell you like this, when you go through this shit, like sometimes you need a break in A, B at some point. Like, I don't know if you get people around them who can help to influence him. But sometimes you just need a break from society, a break for your responsibilities. and I just think that his life is so fast and he has so much responsibility that he can't take him break it. So then you put yourself a situation like this.

But at the end of the day, man, I won't bend on this part. Like sometimes, like liquor, I just had to find out that liquor. What's up? That was crazy. Bend over this part. Bend over on this part was crazy. Oh, yeah. So, no.

It's been a week. I don't know. So. So, I'll end. like this. I'll end it like this. So I'll pause that, right? So I'll end it like this. I just hope my man gets sober. That's it. If he don't hear nothing else from somebody who dealt with it before, from somebody that took a long time to get sober, I hope my man gets sober. He wakes back up and he revive his life because

I don't like to seem like that. I've been there before just struggling. So, you know, you want my man to get back on his feet. That's it. Yeah, Zeke been through that shit too. Zeke took him an alcohol like, he's been clean probably four years, but he's a bad drunk, yo, bad. Like, he goes on bingees for months. It's really bad. I'm surprised I'm still speaking.

It was the time where I'm like, I'm not going to speak to you no more. I try and threaten him. And he's like, yeah, right. My dog. Yeah. So, like you said, well, that shit is barely serious. But I didn't know if he's drinking. or not because I just see the clips

and I don't really watch the whole kick or the whole stream. And the clips I see and I was like, hey man, at least he's figuring the way out to get some money. You know, I shout out to the kid, Dean the Great. Yeah. Shout to him because he, it seemed like he figured out streaming.

Like, he takes chances. I see him get punched by wrestlers. Yes, slap. Slapped and the boxer matches and shit. I'm not saying no speed or none, but he takes a lot of physical chances out there in the streets. But for him to figure out,

maybe AB could be a good co-host or what I'm doing. I don't know how good he was doing myself but it seems like every comment I read on that they're like, oh, these two need a show these two are funny. This is the combo I didn't think I needed.

I didn't know I needed. So if it's a way for him to make some money, cool, I didn't know the alcohol part. Like I said, I only see the clips on social media. I haven't watched all stream. So if he could figure it out without

doing alcohol and still be as funny as it is, I support it. He was actually in the gym, one of the clips I seen teaching niggas how to box still. You know what I'm saying? He was showing the clip and how to slip the jab and moving around. I'm like, look, if he's not going to box, let's try and figure this out on how he can

make some money. Because Dean also helped that do Rampage, right? If I'm not mistaken, the Rampage Jackson, right? So it seems like that kid Dean has figured it out and not only that, figured out of athletes that may have not to figure out what to do after their career, how to make some money. So I give the kid Dean a lot of credit. If AB can still do it without getting drunk, fine, because as much as you're right, more, I do agree with you. I want to see AB get another fight, but it doesn't look like he's going to get in fight shape and it's going to take a lot

to even get a fight that he may feel be up to his standard because you're not just going get back in there with a top contender. Even though he's really good, I think when A-B's in shape, he's good, and not only that, he knows how to sell a fight. But at this point right now, I don't even know what weight he would fight, and can he still make 147 or 140?

He was really good at 140. Is he good enough to go up to 154? I don't know. There's too many questions boxing-wise. When he say, fuck it, I can make some money doing this. I'm not disagreeing with you, I would love to see him back in the rain. But if he's not going to be back in the ring, I at least like to see him be funny and make some money instead of just being drunk without making money.

So leave the alcohol alone, try and be funny. And salute to the guy Dean, man, for helping him get his shit together. And not only him, other athletes that he's helping out as well. Yeah. I'm all for people turning their life around. Obviously, I'm not obviously, but the only time I met, A.B. was literally the show. so it seems like things are changing in a positive direction for him. And then on the flip side, I give a lot of credit to Dean because a lot of people probably don't know.

Dean's from Tampa. So, like, me and Dean, like, go way back. I've known him before I did, it is what it is, before he started doing the streaming and the boxing stuff. And it's so crazy because seeing people kind of, like, kind of come into their own and, like, become who they are. And him just being on his, being on his grind has been dope because this is the stuff that we talked about. like we met at the gym. This is stuff we talked about. Like, I'm going to go do this.

And you're going to go do that. And it happened. We both were able to kind of follow our dreams, move across to the West Coast and be like doing our stuff. So shout out to him. And like he does work really hard. And he actually does have a good heart regardless of what people want to try to say or clicks or whatever.

Like it's content and people are watching it. So shout out to him for being able to make really a living out of it and keep killing it. So that's what I'll say to Dean because, yeah. Maurice, did you have one more comment before we wrap? Yeah, no, it was just adding on the camera's point. I think, like, I said a whole lot, but he just said it like in a concise way. A, B, got a personality.

And so he's funny without all the other stuff. And so in order to sustain that, you just have to be sober doing it. So that might be the cleanest way of saying what I was trying to say. Cool. Okay, well, this was an all-around positive conversation, good discussion. Talked about a lot of things, but a lot of good things. In the comments down below, let us know what y'all think about all the people who have been turning their life around and the games that we spoke about earlier.

But that is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Good seeing you, Mo, we appreciate you. Yes. Before we go, can we celebrate a little bit? Can we pop some champagne for, you know, you've been doing your thing, man? You've been doing your thing. I know you ain't going to drink it, but I'm just saying you've been doing your thing.

We've got to celebrate, man. You've been doing your thing. You're on first take. And then you've been on, what was the other one? LeBron, LeBron. Rich, come on, man, you're killing the game. Thank you, man. And Stats said something.

We got a long way to go. Yeah, no, no, I know that. But Stats said something earlier, she said, we all winning over here. And I thank you, because we all winning and we all salute you and we all, man, listen, I was, we were rooting this morning. I was rooting.

I mean, I was in my living room, like, yeah. Yes. It was like a Super Bowl. So I just wanted to say, thank you, man. You know you my bro. Yeah, no, no, but we really, I think I speak for everybody, Nick, tell everybody in there, man.

Like, bro, you make you happen for a lot of people, man. It ain't just, it ain't just you. You really, like, like, I was thinking this morning. Like, damn, this nigger's climbing, but he'll even rope for us to find it to climb up with us, you know what I'm saying, to climb up with him. So we, I appreciate you. Nobody's good.

Nobody's good, bro. Yeah, no. Make sure everybody gets some team. No, because there's a lot of niggas that don't want to help other people, killing you. And you definitely make sure that everybody around you is eating. And if they fuck it up, they fuck it up. It's on them.

So we all appreciate you over here. Thank you so much, man. Champagne and pop some. I know now, but we got you. No, we're saving for a good time, man. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. You got it.

Cheers to you. Let me say this. I'm going to add on to this because I know I will forget another time. So it is a great feeling I'll say this, and it's to add on to Larry, just to publicly say it. When people see me, all they do is smile and laugh. and they say, Cam, Mace, that's all they'll say. And they smile and just to have that interaction

with people, it's built from something that y'all brought and brought to the platform. So I'm echoing with Larry saying, what I appreciate it publicly. You know, a lot of people talk shit, but I appreciate it. I have no problem. Salute you publicly saying thank you.

And I really mean it. I thank you, guys. Like I said, I appreciate all of y'all. Like, I don't feel it's me. I feel it's us. So all of us are doing what we got to do to stay ahead and win and so on and so forth. But thank everybody. Larry, P.T. Statt, Nick, Jory, Isaiah, Taylor.

Everybody's a part of the show, Mace, of course, Trista, Rabia, Mike Irvin, R.P.O.J. So thank you guys, man. I really appreciate it. Super, super dope. And I took notes. I will never buy Andre Champaign again. You always looking at me. I was like, noted.

So we learn new things. Okay. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.