Joe and Jada - Daymond John on FUBU origins, Shark Tank, peptides, LL Cool J’s shoutout & his hilarious Fat Joe story

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by FUBU founder and ‘Shark Tank’ star Daymond John to discuss his legendary transition from sewing hats in Queens to making million-dollar deals on televisi...on. The culture and business icon breaks down his newest venture of helping CEOs find their brand and control their public narratives, the business and investment advice he has for Joe and Jada, and his extensive biohacking routine involving peptides and plasma replacements. Also, the three legends kick back and share wild behind-the-scenes stories you won't hear anywhere else: LL Cool J sneaking a FUBU shoutout into a $30 million Gap commercial, Daymond's tense encounter with the Yakuza, and Joe unexpectedly crossing paths with SEAL Team Six in Djibouti. Behind The Bars is presented by Sprite. Check out the full Sprite Living Tracklist and break down the stories behind your favorite bars at livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey Your Thirst. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX Merch is here: https://joeandjadashow.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Hey, this is Hayes Davenport And Sean Clements We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook Each week we talk to someone in show business And try to help them with their careers And see what they have to offer us Everyone has a good time And no one gets mad at their publicists
Starting point is 00:00:45 For letting them do our show We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stillard And a lot of other big shots That wouldn't be where they are without us Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville,
Starting point is 00:01:41 a battle for the future of America, plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is Our Town, a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Listen to Our Town, on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, we sold the first Fubour in the Bronx. Congratulations. Pund was sitting right there on the chair. Yeah, pun was sitting right there on the chair. Man, you man.
Starting point is 00:02:27 The man there. He's the leader of this guy's caput. He's right there. The leader of anything. Your damn tell me. You did my Kooji, ad. You did my Kudji ad. You know, I love you.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I love both of these guys. You know, man. I'm really happy to be here, man. I don't know what's going on, but I'm happy to be. Yeah, yeah, yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack to Dawn, the King of Currency. Fresh off that Kiss Cafe, you know what is,
Starting point is 00:03:11 your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we keep strangling you. When you think of today's guess, you got to think the culture, you've got to think hip-hop,
Starting point is 00:03:30 you've got to think business first and foremost. But when you think of today's guest, you're talking about somebody who just didn't build a brand. He built a lane from sewing hats and queens to turning Fulble into a global movement sitting in that shark tank chair
Starting point is 00:03:52 making million dollar decisions. This is somebody who really turned the culture into currency before anybody even had a name for it. And now he's helping the next wave of leaders level up their legacy and visibility. Ladies and gentlemen, we got our brother. Damon John in the building
Starting point is 00:04:21 Make some noise A dream just came true I got my name mentioned with the voice of Jada I always wanted that That motherfucker like Morgan Freeman You know the voice is crazy No I'm saying every
Starting point is 00:04:38 What I'm going to tell you is you're not unique about this Because every guest to come here says Yo I can't believe Yo I got to put that in my I have to. He's that fucking Jada kiss introducing you rolling in it. I like that. It's like... James Earl Joon.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You are supposed to... I want the voice acting career of James Andrew. Yeah, one of the time something like that happened with Latimer or Cancun had at DMX go. Woo-woo dog. Woo-woo. I was like, oh, now I got two a team.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Wow. I'm happy to be here, man. We love you. I was you so business. to have me so young. I wasn't. I wasn't. So I grew up and we were going on the first tours.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It was me, a young kid named Hype Williams, about 14 years old, another kid named Herb Gotti. And then our other boy who they ended up making the movie Belly about, they were called Buns, Dee played him. And we were all pushing speakers on the Fresh Fest tours and stuff like that at 14, 15 years old, thinking that we didn't hope we were going to be somebody. And what happened was the brother who started selling drugs, he was more business-like,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and he started telling us, kind of schooling us in some of the ways that he was doing business, but he would never allow me to sell drugs. He's like, yo, you're not made for it. You're not built for this. And I was pretty cute when I was growing up. I figured I went to jail. It wasn't going to end up the way that I planned it to be.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So he was the one who started training. And then my mother was always thinking outside the box. And then, you know, one of my mother's boyfriends who I call my stepdad happen to be of the Jewish faith. He started schooled me too at the same time and they slowly started to acquire
Starting point is 00:06:25 that kind of financial intelligence. But when I first made a massive amount of money, I almost went bankrupt two times when I had nothing. I almost went once when I had 20 million liquid because I still didn't know what was happening. I've seen some of your interviews.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And I was just listening to the accountants. I wasn't asking why they're doing it. I wasn't asking why should I pay quarterly? You know what I mean? Why should I pay quarterly, you know, interest rates instead of doing this instead of doing that? And this really should run through the business, but I'm buying all this shit on my personal credit card. I used to buy $2 million worth of clothes a year just to cut them up to make samples from Fulbu. That was it, I didn't even put that through the business.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So think about it, I had to make $3 million, $3.5 for that. Meanwhile, it was a tax write off. It could have been. It was a tax right off. Yeah, but he wasn't doing it. I wasn't doing it that way. The accountant didn't ask me. They just thought, I like a lot of clothes.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I feel like accountants just don't like us. Like, I honestly believe, and I have an expensive accountant right now, because I don't play, you know, I've been in enough accounting trouble where Desire hooked me up with the top of the lot. Like, she said, you're the safest guy in the world. You could go to sleep on whatever you want. You got the guy. when I tell you this guy robs me, how he charges me,
Starting point is 00:07:48 it's out of this world. And I don't think that these accountants know how hard you got to work to make this money. I think at the end of the year, they just look at numbers. They don't give a fuck if you went to $10 bucks too for the dollar. You almost got stabbed for the shit. Nothing. They look at the shit with no compassion.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And somehow I feel like they work for the government. I don't know. They always, why don't you give a little bit more, I think we should play this safe. Capital gains is 20%. Right? Capital gains, you sold a property. Why don't we just give them 25? What the fuck is that about, baby?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Put yourself on the other side. I'm a promoter. Yo, I want to book y'all. Y'all, let me tell you. So I'm not sure how many people I'm going to get there, but I'm going to get sponsored. Yo, man, I'm going to show up. Make sure the bag is there.
Starting point is 00:08:44 First of all, make sure the bag is there before I get there And then make sure the rest of the bag is there When I get there I don't care what you did I don't care man That's not and I got 10 shows this week And that's what the accounts are thinking And they're like I got
Starting point is 00:08:57 I got this coming this coming this coming I'm not sure of you stealing If you're doing this you're doing that I'm I'm messing up my bag I'm just run through your joint I got fucked two times by accountants The latest one No I went to jail for an accountant
Starting point is 00:09:13 How about I went to jail? I got it. No. Reverse the flat. You do the, you know, the Norrie took the back back. No, no, no, I went to jail for an account. Like, how about that? Like, I was paying this nigga wires.
Starting point is 00:09:30 We showed the government the wires. We proved to them that I was paying this guy. He wasn't paying my turn. They said, you as the leader of your household. I paid them twice. No, well, if you showed them the wires. We showed them. My lawyers actually was the number one lawyer in New York City.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So he was Jeffrey Lipman. So it wasn't like a bullshit. It was like, here's the proof, guys. There's no way you sending this guy to jail. We have this accountant stealing. It was like you as the leader of your house. So what happened to me, it happened to me twice. I had another accountant in Miami.
Starting point is 00:10:05 She stole millions of dollars from this. This was only like two, three years ago for the most reputable accounting firm you could ever mentioned, right? So Jay-Z had his money there. It was called B-D-O. Jay-Z had his money there. You heard of B-D-O. So B-D-O had a rogue employee, I guess, who stole millions and millions of dollars to me.
Starting point is 00:10:27 B-Z was going to the ATM every day, like it was her card, pulling out money every day. And what's funny is... Did they get it? A fence? Yeah, she's in jail because she robbed, like, 10 of their clients, baseball players, all of them. The thing is, the feds told my lawyer, this is crazy. And my lawyer is like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:49 She said, he said, the Fed told her who locked her up said, this is the same exact case that happened in Fat Joe before. He said, I looked into that case. There's no way this man should have went to jail for this. Right. This is the same shit. I can't believe lightning struck twice in the same spot. The Fed is telling my lawyer.
Starting point is 00:11:11 you, yo, this is crazy. Like, I read his whole case because I seen Fat Joe talking that shit about going to jail for an accountant. He didn't believe it. He was just a random watch me on the breakfast club or something. He said, he looked into my case and said, yo, this is
Starting point is 00:11:27 crazy they put him in jail. It's the same case. Accountants, man, they got some shit and they have to be held accountable. Because we put them in the... First of all, don't make me unbad because you two you the educated brother from, what was it,
Starting point is 00:11:44 a living color. So we're going to act like you an educated brother from a living color. So if we're talking too smart, the lawyers are bigger crooks than the crooks. The lawyers are the biggest crooks in the fucking world. And they win whether you win or lose. They never lose.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's insanity. Like what they run, the plays they're running? Because the lawyers rob you more than you being brought. I got a guy, I don't want to say who, a good friend of mine. He sued somebody because somebody did some shit to him for like, say, a million dollars. He wound up spending $8 million to prove that he beat the guy. But the summary was just a million dollars by the time he got him. But the lawyers just kept.
Starting point is 00:12:41 They always win, man. They're in one business, time. that's the business. Time. That's the business. As long as it can stretch. You know, I don't want to paint them all with a shit. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:52 They're all pieces of shits. But let me tell you something. They're all pieces of shits. Let me tell you something. They're all pieces of shit. Let me explain something to you. I walked in that courtroom. You remember who's old enough to remember Jerry Newellis?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Remember when he used to walk? Yeah, I was going to walk in that court. If I was going to walk in that courtroom, You know, I went in there like the dapper darn fat Joe, the gangster. If I would have went in there, like, I really wanted to walk in there. First of all, they charged me twice. They let me there, bro. I wouldn't walk in that courtroom like, like, motherfucking the desert looking for a glass of water.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like, oh, please. Like, I mean, they'll finish you. And the lawyers, even in that case, my lawyer, I never forget my lawyer. The fee is such and such, such. hundreds of thousands of dollars in the upper hundred thousands and he said you might as well write it here because they're going to take it from you anyway
Starting point is 00:13:48 you might as well write the check here because these guys taking it from you anyway and let me tell you one thing because I had a good accountant once but his son got in an accident Brian Deidrick and that's why I found this piece of shit
Starting point is 00:14:02 accountant that fucked me but the man turns around and says what I was saying just before that, because that's sidetracked. You're listening. Are we listening? Are we not listening?
Starting point is 00:14:16 We got 20 people in this room. Nobody listened to what the shit I was saying just now. About what lawyers? The lawyer said pay them this, pay them that? Pay them now. The lawyer said, pay me now. Because they're going to take it from you. Anyway, but to the point is,
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Starting point is 00:14:45 Wells Fargo. You believe before I walked in that courtroom, the feds called my lawyer and said, and by the way, we found that Wells Fargo's retirement, you think Mr. Cardagena would like to sign the money.
Starting point is 00:15:01 He don't even know he fucking got over? This shit is crazy. Yo, all right. Let's sum this up. Joe, I got some good, good. attorneys, good accountants, my guys, that if they fuck you, they'll fuck me. I got you after this because I don't want to put that, because there's a lot of attorneys
Starting point is 00:15:19 out there who are saving people from wrongly incarcerated and accident. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say that. I'm just talking about God's professionalized. I can see you upset and you're upset for the right reason. Man. They got it. But what's the takeaway here?
Starting point is 00:15:32 You got to watch your health personally. Oh, fuck what all the doctors say. You got to watch your money. You got to watch your legal shit. You definitely got to watch what's going on in the home personally. Nobody else going to give a fuck. You're right. You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 00:19:18 what are you to lie to you? I'm not 20 years old no more. You can't stir it like coffee, man? Not like that. If I do, I'd be super damaged goods. I'm trying to tell you the truth. One tweak too many. You know,
Starting point is 00:19:32 you know, I ripped down the show legendary, but I slowed up a little. I'm not going to lie to you because when I do a little bit too much, Last time I had a show with them, the niggas was trying to rip it down. I went up in there, act like I was 15. I still got the pain 15 years later.
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Starting point is 00:21:06 We sold that Fubu, man. And, man, you reached a... But, but... I love everything you ever did, man. You're a classy, man. You're a good man, man. You always supported the culture in the right way. And I'm happy for all your success, man.
Starting point is 00:21:19 If anyone deserves it and if there's a poster child or a definition of staying out the way, you're in no bullshit. You just get to your bag. You mind your business and you move. And that's aspiring because I believe, I don't know if you do, do you have some sort of responsibility where you say, all right, I came from Hollis, Queens,
Starting point is 00:21:43 I came from the hood, I came from this, I'm going to set an example. Yeah. Because I feel like that's what you do for the whole culture. That's what I try to do. You know, on Shark Tank, I try to make sure that people see me as a man
Starting point is 00:21:58 and that's it, American Dream. You know, if you look at Chartank, you look at our culture, I'm the only African American on a major network for the last 17 years. that didn't come from music, sports, or politics. And I've never been on the cover of Black Magazine. You know, I've been on, I've sold more ink magazines, success magazine,
Starting point is 00:22:16 entrepreneurial magazines, and anything. Now, granted, a lot of those black magazines are music base. You don't need me on it. It was sports base, right? But my job and my agenda is that I always say to people, like, when I leave this planet, I want to make sure my little girls get a fair shake when they walk in the room. And, you know, we look at our brother, Paul,
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Starting point is 00:22:52 their great-grandfather was. So I got a couple obligations on that show to make sure that I don't say anything that God would never want me to say, make sure I don't say anything to make my family, my family wouldn't want me to say and make sure I wouldn't say anything that my community you know, that helped me come
Starting point is 00:23:07 to who I, you know, who I am today wouldn't want me to say, you know. And that's hard. It is hard. It's almost like a passion of Christ. Because even me, I'm a piece of shit. I'm telling you the truth. And I try to keep it solid.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I try to stay family base. I try to support my kids. You know, send him a college. He does the same thing. Do everything in my community. Get back to my community. Do whatever I can. But I'm liable to crack.
Starting point is 00:23:35 a motherfucker's head open. You know what I've learned, the things that really matter, you can't rush them. Fats. You can't rush the sauce. You can't rush the music. You can't rush relationships.
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Starting point is 00:26:10 It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes, Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. on the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show.
Starting point is 00:26:57 We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect, I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested. Or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life.
Starting point is 00:28:08 and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area.
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Starting point is 00:29:09 They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let me tell you something you gave me a pass. You know, let me tell you when you gave me a pass, we never talked about this. I don't even know if you remember.
Starting point is 00:29:37 You've been so supportive of me. whether they're doing a video yours or whatever. One day we was in Miami, and I had this right between my first divorce and my second marriage, I had this little something, there was a little something special that I was trying to, I have a conversation with.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I want to show how I could show off. And you jumped up on the state, when it was like a little club, you jumped on the stage, and you started rapping out. I didn't know much about the music side of business. I didn't realize you was getting a bag right there. I thought you was just,
Starting point is 00:30:06 you know, I'm going to take the mic, you know, I'm doing like, you know, when Prince comes from a concert. or he used to plug in somewhere. I said, yo, he's my man, horn. And we want to get to some romantic music here.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Let me get up there and talk to him, man. Just chill. I got up there on stage with you, and you looked at me like, I was like, yo, Joe, chill out, man. I would twist it. Twist, this is like 2003. Joe, do me, and you look at me, and you looked at me, he said, yo, D.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Gail up to say for a second. I don't think you remember because you might have been twisted, too. You got on that stage, you said, you said, and me, yo, I should have whipped your ass on that stage. and your boys are around and you know Grimm's over there and all of us who's like and your boys are like
Starting point is 00:30:42 I should have whipped your ass you know what he should have whipped your ass on that getting up on that stage and you gave me the past I love you too much brother I love you too much brother so you're not a piece of shit like you think
Starting point is 00:30:54 no I'm not a piece of shit and you should have whipped your own count's ass but these guys are pieces of shit let me explain Senator more and more I do history because I study history
Starting point is 00:31:06 The underworld, the gangsters, I study this shit, all cultures, Jewish gangsters, fucking Chinese gang, today I woke up with the triads. Like, I study all this shit. And, man, I thank God, man, because I thought I grew up bad, but these motherfuckers to kill you, man. I just came from, I got spared from being. murdered probably. I'm sure they had talks, like amongst our own friends, right?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Because my brother's the boss. I'm the second boss. I'm the one with the muscle. My sole job was muscle. But I know I had some wild niggas with me that must have been like, yo, let's just kill these niggas and take their shit. Somebody must have said,
Starting point is 00:31:59 yo, chill, Joey's our brother. Somebody had to. Because when I study every other crew or religion or whatever, they was off the niggis. Let me tell you what. Hopefully I'll put this in the Fulhu's show or movie. First time I ever go to Japan in 1996,
Starting point is 00:32:19 Mitsubishi flies me out there. They're distributing my product. I'm out there and I don't know any better. I'm just being disrespect or whatever. I go to the pool. I'm in the pool, chilling. I see a bunch of guys in there. They all got these like wet suits on.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I don't know why they got wet suits. it's on. I walk into the locker room, change. We pull off their wetsers. They are tatted from here all the way down to their ankle. They do Wakuza or Yakuza or something like that. It was.
Starting point is 00:32:47 They came in there like, listen, man, you've been out of hand. We need to distribute all your clothes in Japan from now. You know, they were just putting me under pressure. Thank God, that corporate Mitsubishi guy, I don't know what he had going on. Because if I didn't do that deal with those cats, I wasn't coming back.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yes, a lot of that. It's a lot of that. I remember they had a guy in L.A. that robbed every basketball player. Man, I don't want to mess up my deal. I don't want to mess up the love with the NBA. We can't do that. But this guy was sticking up every one of our favorite NBA players.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Well, he did that All-Star Week that we was there and everybody got caught? Every week. went to L.A. You at Rosco's, you're excuse me, give me the watch, give me the,
Starting point is 00:33:40 like this guy had to, to the point of, the rumors are, the NBA sat down with the man and paid him to leave the players alone because he just kept robbing
Starting point is 00:33:52 whoever, right? Now, I'm telling you a true story. Now, the guy walks in Rosco's and his three NBA players,
Starting point is 00:34:04 superstars, there and he's going to rob him. Even though he got the deal with them. And the one guy, the one guy should kill O'Neill says, hey, but I thought you had a deal with the NBA, so you wouldn't rob us guys no more. Yeah, you're right. Tell the commission.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I said, what's up? Yo, there's some walked out. I mean, it's levels to like where people, you know, this gangster shit travels. Oh, that deep, yeah. People don't realize when these guys come out of, there's only like 75 SEAL Team 6 guys. And these guys all come
Starting point is 00:34:39 out of special service, all that. They need a job and they only know how to do one thing. And they do it real cheap and they do it really, really good. Anyway, I'm really happy to be here. Do you got those type of guys? Because I
Starting point is 00:34:56 got security and my security says he's the leader in a swap. I met the team six. I met the team six. First of all, you'd go to those guys. All they say is let's analyze the threat first. I got to tell you how I know him. I met the Taliban. Have you met the Taliban? No, I have. Now, I go to Djibouti Africa.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I never heard of Djibouti. Shabouti Africa is a place in Africa. It's a state in Africa. And it's pretty run down, got one super duper fancy hotel. I mean, the best massage I ever had in my life. I mean, a woman, they had this woman, she was whipping me with, like, hot wax, and then you jump in the fucking shower, and then she beats you with a hopper.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I swear to God, best massage I ever had in my life. I don't even know what the fucking shit is called. I never had it again. She beat this shit out of me with some hot waxes, a fucking mop. And do you jump in the massage, like, yeah, like in the shower? Or you jump in like... I felt brand new, no, it feels a big. But the point is, I go out to the pool.
Starting point is 00:36:16 There's just women and dudes Americans got no business in Djibouti Africa. And they're in there in the pool, chilling, living a life, this, this man. I meet them all, Fed Joe, what you doing? Hey, I'm doing a show, whatever, this, this, that. You know who we are? I said, no. we're team six. We're the guys who kill Ben Lott.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And I'm like, for real, he said, we're stationed here because this is the quickest to get to any Middle Eastern country. And we go finish him and we come back in, we chill at the pool and we chill them with the crew. I met them. Like, I met those guys. Yeah, that's the extended on that I don't want to meet.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I mean, the dudes who just analyze it first and they neutralize it first. He met the ones they're sitting in. I'll tell you something. Last week I had a show in Pittsburgh. Shout out to Pittsburgh. I almost ain't make it out there. The weather was crazy this weekend. Man, they had this white boy. He had to be.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You know this thing with security. You think, look like Stone Cold Street, Boston. I said, yo, this is the biggest white boy I haven't seen my fucking life. He looked like he eat people and shit. He's standing there like, I said, oh, nobody's going to fuck with. Even my security, I was like, man. I don't want to fuck with this. It's security like that.
Starting point is 00:37:40 You have been very, very, very successful. And you've been able to parlay your story. Because Fubu's how many years ago? Since 92. You know, you've been running that Fubu shit up to the Shark Tank to 2026. Yeah. You've been running with that.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah. It's almost like you made the chicken nugget or the Big Mac. I never looked at it like that. What, nigga, I'm telling you. I look at it like, I'm sitting there. I say, you know, in football, I say, yo, this motherfucker, it's like the Big Mac
Starting point is 00:38:18 or the Chick-McNuggett. This guy is just like, you wearing that play to the promised land? Like, how do you know, like, your other guys that was down with football? Yeah, keep calling Jay. Great guys. I see them every now and then.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I show them bad love. Yeah. feel about your success and you being able to, because now you're like in the 10th season of power. You're like 50 said. They got Canaan's son now. I'm on 17th year. You're on the 17th year.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So it's like every year you've been having a spinoff of a spin-off of a spin-off, of a spin-off, of a spin-off. It's reviving itself. This year we got Mr. Beast on as a shark. So it's getting hot. But my brothers have always, always, always support me. I love them to death. You know, they're running the shop.
Starting point is 00:39:10 They're doing, we still do a lot. I was just on the phone today, rolling out a new level of Fubu suits around the country. And we even got a stab-proof one in there and stuff like that. And they still doing, man. I love them, man. And where does Fubu mostly sell now out of, like, is it overseas? We're on the top brands in the Philippines, South Africa, all Asia, not heavy in Asia, but in Philippines, heavy.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And primarily that, and here we'll do drops. Like we did a collection with actively black, and we did sneakers a couple of years ago with Puma, and we'll do stuff like that. Well, you always going to be good. You know what I'm saying? Because you got that vintage, you know, you got that, it'll never go out of style.
Starting point is 00:39:58 How about my daughter cut up a Nick? Ase, as he got her own show, it's called As if, She's killing the game. As he threw on a Nick jersey, I took it to the front of us with me. And she was like, Dad, they're going to love this. This is like, I said, I said, mine, you know, J-Lo, Maya, all of them, they was rocking that shit to death back in it. She thought she invented new shit.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Jersey, turn into Jersey. For my mother, she thought she invented some new shit. Like, she was like, yo, we try to kill them with these Steve Maddening boots. with the, I'm like, you know, they was rocking that shit. So everything comes back. It does. It does. Everything comes back.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Like, even with all, like, Biggie, one of the, you know, Biggie to us, because we was born and raised with him and we knew him, he's like, brand new. I listen to Biggie every day. But to young kids, Biggie is almost now. He's Beethoven or Mona Lisa, one of them shit now. I heard Biggie elevated music one day. They're playing, like, that type of elevated music,
Starting point is 00:41:04 like the jazz. It was one of the big songs. You're right. But what I'm saying to you is, where he said the red and black lumberjack. I used to wear that when I was a teenager, maybe two, three years ago. That shit came back.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like, it just comes back. It resurges. Yeah. And then it's the style again. That's it. You know, oh, the Gap. The Gap. How did you pull that out of?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Gap. Ooh. LL KooJ, man. You know, this is why I think I understood how to become somebody who really is an advocate for brands, like on Shark Tank, because Elle, he was our spokesperson. He didn't have to wear it. He would wear it in his show. He'd wear it anywhere. But the gap, they called them up, they didn't respect that culture. You know when they kind of like,
Starting point is 00:41:49 yo, whoever, you know, you'll wear this if you'll want. Can we get a check? Nah. Here you go. And so they paid Elle to do an ad for them. He did an acapella. And then he would put in there for us, buy us on the low. Now, they ended up. spending $30 million aering that ad. It was running for six weeks. We were in the office going, man, nobody caught on to this. Nobody?
Starting point is 00:42:12 I remember, the internet ain't out yet. There's definitely no social media, so nobody could do hashtag fail or anything like that. The kids in the mailroom, they're all laughing. They know these executives, you know, played themselves, and they just let it run. And they got mad at L. But then they went back to LL and told us
Starting point is 00:42:34 that I think they hired a multicultural agency after that. They found that the target market they were trying to hit increased 300% because the dudes in the hood thought they can get Fuba with the gap. And then they re-ran the act. And that's actually what changed. It's all God, man. That's what changed everything. That's when Fulba went out of here.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That's when it was out of it. Because then all of a sudden, you know, in sync started wearing it. Backstreet boys started wearing it. So now all of a sudden you got Fat Joe over here. You know what I'm saying? Man Nubian over here, you know, whatever. In sync over here, Barrio boys over here, you know what I mean? I saw this.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I saw this happen in the Internet age. That boy DJ Callag got lost on the jet ski and said, they don't want us to win. They don't want us. And the next day I seen Justin Bieber get in a private plane to go. They don't want us on a private plane. They don't want us. And the next day I saw Kim Kardashian, they don't want us to win. They don't want, and that shit.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Went the fuck and Cal had never been back since. A nigga been on an asteroid ever since. And it's like, yo, I've seen it in real time where, you know, everybody starts jumping on some shit and the next thing you know, it's out of here. But today's, right? Yesterday's price is not today's price. But let me tell you something. This guy is got L.L. Cool J on that ill bond.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Oh. Asked Fubu who made a major How did this? What? That might be my favorite L.O. Koojee record ever. Who put Russell up in that skyscraper?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Who made... Who else need a favor? Even Flake said, Yo, he brought me back. I was crunchy. No, no. He brought me back. I tell you a story.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I'd never forget. L.O. KooJ. I like to think I was one of his biggest fans. He called me before he dropped that. I was getting a fucking window fixed in Jerome Avenue. Back in the days when they used to break in your window and steal your benz-y box. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Nigga, I'm fixing the window in Jerome Avenue. And this L.L. Cool J., he calls me on the cell phone. He said, yo, listen to Flex. Man, I'm dropping. Tell me if it's hot or not. That shit came on. I was like, oh, my God. That shit changed my life, Il-Bomb.
Starting point is 00:44:59 L.L. changed my entire life, man. He chained my life. Salute. And it's beautiful because I've seen you something I never realized was I seen you
Starting point is 00:45:08 Big Up Hype Williams. I know the story. I know Irv grew up with you. But I never knew Buns was a real person on the earth. So Belly was based off of a real person. Yeah, and he got an incarcerated something he didn't do
Starting point is 00:45:21 and he got out. He spent 28 years. He just got out about two years ago. That's when lawyers are good. That's when lawyers. Shout out to my man, Jason. and flamming them that are taking incarcerated prisoners who dare for no real. Imagine being in jail.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I believe that's what he's doing now. He's running around now fighting for the freedom of those who are. Santana Raymond, all those guys Central Park Five or what the rejuvenated five, what they call them now? They're not the Central Park Five. Exonerated Five. Shout out to them. Could you imagine being in jail for years knowing or telling some. somebody.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah. Do you know how hard it? Yo, I got a bullshit story. Only did four months in jail. These guys are sitting down and they're like, yo, I robbed the bank. I got 18 years. I'm in the feds, right?
Starting point is 00:46:15 MDC. Miami. Yo, I kidnapped somebody. I got 12 years. Yo, they caught me with 30 keys in the world. Yo, crap. I said, well, guys, I'm not really innocent to this. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:46:28 If they could have threw a chicken wing, they would have get the fucking. And I really was, but they knew I was guilty for a million other things. It was like, yo, crack, shut the fuck up. But imagine really being innocent and going to jail for all those years. See, the way I judge jail is, I think of holidays. I think of what was it like on Christmas every year? What was it like on Thanksgiving every year?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, by the way, whoever, this guy's the man of Shark Tank, whoever made this AC system? could we mention them one time? Because God damn this shit on tilt, I need the sheep's getting this motherfucker. This shit crazy. Shit is frozen in there. Yo, this shit is out of control
Starting point is 00:47:14 and I got a sweatshirt on. What I'm saying is... I'm saying this. So L.O. KooJ definitely helped y'all promote the brand on another level. He also said recently that he had ownership
Starting point is 00:47:32 in football. He had a percentage of what he promoted, a percentage of the brand, yeah, he did. You could call it a royalty, right? You call it ownership, yeah. Listen, when I first went to L, man, he could have taken 50% of it if he wanted to. He just wanted to give love and he
Starting point is 00:47:48 didn't ask for anything at first. And he said, listen, if we're going to formalize it better than that, make sure I'm good. So, yeah, absolutely, man. Yeah, he deserved that. I mean, the way, you know, you knew J.R. You knew J.R. riding girl. And the way JR taught me business, because when I did go to jail, he came to me, he tried to give me a big check. He chased me around the apartment, like trying to give me a million
Starting point is 00:48:13 dollar check, and I wouldn't take it. And I was broke. And I was just like, yo, I said, well, let me show you business. Let me show you how to do business. So I was with this guy's a billionaire every day for seven years. Every single day I was with him. Every day, every day, learning everything, learning everything, learning everything and valuable information. And I was like, you know, when I get my shot again, I'm going to do it and just do business different. And so, you know, these mentors, you know, these guys, you know, they're really more important. You know, it's almost like that thing where you say, you know, I could give you a fish or teach you at a fish. So dropping those gems on the shark tank and whatever, go.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I don't know shit like that. You know, I'm just your fish. I can give you a fish, your teacher. Huh? Teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. So that's how I feel. Like, the man definitely taught me how to take care of myself and do business. And all the moves I make now, I attribute to him because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:49:23 I wouldn't have known it, you know? You know, somebody told me a long time ago, let your money work. for you. And I was so busy trying to hustle and make money, but I'll give you an example right now. If you put $10,000 and I know everybody don't have that, but whatever your version of it,
Starting point is 00:49:41 if you would have put $10,000, talking my man in the car today, you would have put it in Apple in 2005. Just let it there. And there's nothing sexy about it. Just leave it there. It'd be worth $1.6 million today. And, but about compounding interest and the way things
Starting point is 00:49:59 compound. If you would leave it in another 10 years, it'll be $15 million. Let me ask you a question. How do you trust those people? So anytime guys come up to me all the time, you know, I'm a beloved Nick fan. You know, that's all, Wall Street. They love Fed Joe. Fadjo, let me invest for you. How can I trust you? You don't need to trust them. You own up your own account and you go, I want Bezos to work for me. I want Alphabet, which is Google to work with me. I want the Nvidia to work me. And you deposit your own money in there and your own account,
Starting point is 00:50:33 your Robin Hood or whatever those are, and you look at it every day. Okay. And that's fair enough. So educate yourself in that and then you work for yourself and you invest in what you think of something. I'll give you example.
Starting point is 00:50:46 None of these niggas. They come up to me all year round. With the suits, the bowtize the this, I'm like, yo, bro. I'm like really good. Let me give it. If you had a thousand dollars,
Starting point is 00:50:56 you put in the bank there, you're going to get, what, 3%, 5% off of it. All right. So end of the year, it's going to be $1,050. You put it in Apple in the past over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:51:06 It would have been $2,000 end of the year. Now, don't get me wrong, markets come up and they go down. You double it down when it goes down. You come back and maybe... Let me ask you what happens when I watch the news and then be like, worse in Dow history.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I'll be seeing that shit. Buy more. Well, he says, worse in Dowel history, that's when you buy the shit. That's when you double the... You buy more. You average out.
Starting point is 00:51:26 You buy more. But again, Don't just listen to me like it. Man, you're so fucking rich, David John. You're so fucking rich, man. You turn that fool will into some shit, boy, because you know, I'm scared. I think I'd have been filthy, wealthy if I trusted someone.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But every time I trusted somebody with a suit and a bowtie, probably familiar. You got to trust one person, brother, yourself. And Ray, you're a brilliant dude, man. Yeah, what's up, man? How you been, man? How you been, man? Jay did not talking at all, man.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Jada not high enough. Jay took him in Victor. He ain't takes the TV for this morning. This is me and Joe Zizi's. Yeah, yeah, listen. It's in the Zee. Jay, Jay, Jay hit the pen. He ain't half the pure.
Starting point is 00:52:11 We just, don't worry to him, day. I'm just listening. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it's a listening session. Most 90%. Listen, no wrong, listen. No, nothing at all, man. Joe and Jada Show.com. We got new merch fresh off the presses.
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Starting point is 00:53:13 High in caffeine, details on McDonald's.ca. At participating Canadian restaurants excluding Quebec. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like,
Starting point is 00:53:48 you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So, So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to the. visit the show. I would never expect. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that
Starting point is 00:55:13 to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot times out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what I mean like they're like oh what's a state everyone's so dumb except for you right fake and and also not interested or just like oh I've got my life I don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will feral told us Personally, he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right?
Starting point is 00:56:08 But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is, Pioneers in Appalachia. But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal?
Starting point is 00:56:36 A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need men to rule. Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Listen to our town on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For all the real ones out there, we keep in 1800. My latest venture, we all seen this coming up. And I think this is how I got under the shark thing. We saw people brand themselves like the commissioner Steve Stout. We've seen people like Jacob, the jeweler, we all helped. And now he's globally recognized. I mean, I love what Jacob is doing, right?
Starting point is 00:57:33 No. Bodmano over there. It was at Uber and this and that brand and stuff. So what I started doing lately is understanding how to brand CEOs. Because I think today, they don't know what we know. And I learned a lot of this off of cats like how you're branded yourself. T.S. all over the place, right? that's what I'm doing today now.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I decided like, how many more years can I be on Shark Tank? After I speak at about 100 major corporations a year, after I get off a stage, they don't need me there next year. I need to bring somebody else in there. After I get off a podcast or an interview that somebody who fits the model,
Starting point is 00:58:11 how do I make CEOs famous? Because today, what's happening is a CEO could do all the right things. We know a lot of people. We know a lot of them who do all the right thing. But one kid in the mail room gets disgruntled and decide to put out a tweet or a text So whatever you want to call it, and now 1,000 people lose their jobs.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And now the business goes down. That stock you're talking about takes a dip. I end up doubling down and buying it for the other CEO. But that's what I'm doing these days. So I'm shark tanking CEOs so they can be a new version of a shark in the chair. One thing I found in my studies of hanging around billionaires and super wealthy people is they all want to. to be famous. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's not cool with them just being super rich and living the greatest life you've ever seen in the history of mankind because the way I look at it, besides God and family, you got one life to live, and if you could put it out the park
Starting point is 00:59:11 to where you are Billy and you could fucking slide off your boat into the ocean, hooray, do that shit every day if you can, right? But somehow they all want to be famous. And they don't want to admit it.
Starting point is 00:59:26 That's what I found. But Joe, who do they go to? They go to the secretary. They go to their PR person. They go to this person or not. But I realized that think about, looking about the Sharks. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Why being rich ain't enough? This is a question. This is the best question of this. We all want acknowledgement in our life. And if you command 10, 20,000 people, and you give away millions of dollars to change people's lives and a great, great way and you've helped people.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And then you walk in a room and you walking into a dinner and the TikTok cat walking in got a reservation and they're looking at you like, yo man, get the hell up out of here. You look like an asshole in front of your wife or your husband or your friends or whatever. You're like, yo, do you know who I am?
Starting point is 01:00:10 No, actually I don't. So when you look at people, look at me, look. I love to say I'm a designer, but Sachi rolled over in his grave if I thought they're putting a big ass FB and a 05 when a bunch of jerseys who was designing. I'm a great brander, but I'm
Starting point is 01:00:28 a shark tank. You got a whole bunch of real estate brokers. There's only one Barbara Corcoran. Right? It's about walking in the room and being known as an expert in your field and your field will then put you in the room way before you get into the room. The room will call you.
Starting point is 01:00:44 The checks will be bigger. The distribution will be easier. I asked Robert one day on my show. I said, Robert, why do you this show? He said, Listen, man, I'm already doing, he was doing a mastermind money. He said, but I'm an IT guy. I'm a cybercrime expert. He said, I can't call American Express and say, can I replace your firewalls?
Starting point is 01:01:04 But is Robert Hershevac? I can call it. You ever heard Magic Johnson say, I walk in the room. They go, Magic, yo, remember that? He was like, yeah, I did this against Larry Bird. I did this and this is this and this. All right, now let's get down to business. Because he got in the room because of that.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And that's why people need all. If you aren't in charge of your narrative, somebody's going to be in charge of your narrative. For sure. I've learned that from Kanye West out of all people. If you don't speak to what your success is or whatever the case may be, ain't nobody going to say. Nobody knows who you are. When you come in the room and you didn't brand yourself,
Starting point is 01:01:39 they're going to interpret the brand that they believe that they know or think about. I honestly believe it's a human thing because even these guys, serial killers, when they find out that they terminally got cancer and they're on their bed, they'd be like, all right, I kill 76 kids in Indiana. Everybody wants their story told. Yeah, that's a great example. No, it's just the truth.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Everybody would... What do you think of that one? It's crazy. Because you're so smart and intelligent that my mind starts tapping into another frequency. We're not taking any serial killers as applicant. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, right though.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Even serial killers. Killers. They turn around and be like, yo, I killed 17 people over here. Be like, all right, they want it to be. Everybody wants their story to be told. Even if we go back to the Roman days and all that, they always had a guy with the scrolls writing down. And Achilles struck with such motion.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Or better yet, you ever see when the war laws come in, they go, I was looking at 300, who cares, right? They go, we're going to erase your story. Yeah. Nobody will know your story. Nobody will know your name. We'll break every statue. You know your name.
Starting point is 01:02:50 This is why it's very important to keep your name clean, whether in business and the streets, whatever the case may be. And this is why people are trying to play with your name because at the end of the day, that's all you got. That's all your kids to move off of. That's all you can dis. Look, I got to give credit what credits do. My daughter's coming up doing her flashing blogs and all that. And she's making some good money. And so she likes to brag to her dad
Starting point is 01:03:21 and she wants her dad to say, you know what? You're doing great. But I also have to let her know, you know, they're not playing with you with the money because they know your father got it.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Now, had you been another girl coming up that don't really got it, they'd be giving you $5,000 for what they're giving you $100,000 for. They know they can't play with you. You got the lawyer, you got the assistant,
Starting point is 01:03:42 you got the manager, you got the this. You're coming with a whole team when you sit down on the Zoom. They know, yo, don't play with her. Pay her what she got to get paid. They also know, and I ain't saying it because you hear, they also know that their father is a good dude.
Starting point is 01:03:58 You've been the dude who always walks in the room like, you know, like, yo man, what's up? I love you, brother, right? And they know you're a good dude, because they would have asked, yo, what's up with Joe if they don't know you. Yo, he's an asshole. Yo, yo, yo, he's slighted me for money.
Starting point is 01:04:13 You know, he did this and that, right? And if that don't happen, they go, give us a shot because his father's a good dude. That's your reputation, man. Something happened. Thank you very much for saying that. And you're the same way. But something happened one time in hip-hop did I didn't understand.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So somebody got into some shit, not scandalous, just hip-hop beef. And nobody stood next to them. But I watched these guys help everybody and look out for everybody, but nobody would stand next to them in this storm. And then I asked around, I see, yo, why nobody's like, I don't understand this, right? And they were like, yo, these guys are assholes. And they're arrogant. They treated everybody like shit.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And they thought they were the ones and this and this. And so now they're catching that karma. And ain't nobody going to help. You thought they was helping people, but they was treating them like shit while they was helping them. And now, and we see that. We've seen that in this lifetime. And with our own eyes, we've seen the guys who have been too arrogant, too cocky.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Many times. Oh, this, this. All the time. You see it all the time. All the time. I see it. It's terrible because what's wrong with treating somebody nice? What's wrong with just being a nice person and treating somebody nice?
Starting point is 01:05:36 What's wrong with you saying, thank you, man. You just give them love. It don't cost you done. You know what happened to me? I'm going to tell him because I know he watches this. Well, Big John, you know, Big John, the publisher. So my publishing deals up. You know, Joe's outside.
Starting point is 01:05:50 You know what I'm saying? So I see Big John at Yankee Stadium. I'm like, yo, we told you, you know, my shit is up. Like, come with it or not. You know, I'm the hottest nigga in the game. The main Big John turned around instead. So I talked to him cocky. This is the guy who Jay Z, Usher, whoever you name, looks at,
Starting point is 01:06:10 Y'all, Big John. He says, man, I took. you off that slavery contract. I'm sorry, Big John. You actually did. He said, I said, yo, Big John. I got caught up and I played myself. Actually, the witness,
Starting point is 01:06:26 because Tyler Perry was standing there at the Jay-Z concert. I played myself. You saved my life. You took me over. He was like, yo, Joe, I said, I said, nah, Joe, we'll do it. Don't worry about.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'm going to get back to you. But I said, shit. That man humbled me. so fucking quick. And you got to get humble at that right there. You got to figure it out. I'm like, oh shit, I was playing games with the wrong person. Sometimes you got to check yourself all day on the spot.
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