Not Skinny But Not Fat - Salley Carson: Creature of Chaos

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Southern Charm’s Salley Carson is here! She spills on where her and Austen stand right now (hint: very close), how she felt about Charli and Craig, Venita’s curfew, and if getting chickens for a guy was the craziest thing she’s ever done for one. We talk hate messages, her real girl job, and who from the cast is coming for her!This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Go to ollie.com/notskinnny and use code notskinny to get 60% off your first boxGo to littlespoon.com/NOTSKINNY30 and enter code NOTSKINNY30 for 30% off your first orderText NOTSKINNY to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. Go to LiquidIV.com and get 20% off your first order with code NOTSKINNY at checkout.For a limited time, save 40% on your first month at ritual.com/NOTSKINNYTo explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/NOTSKINNYWildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off your first box - PLUS free croissants for LIFE when you go to wildgrain.com/NOTSKINNY to start your subscription today.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny Bonafat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hi, guys. Hi. I think I wanted to say hey and hi and hi.

Hey, hi, hi, guys. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to a new episode of Not Skinny Bonafat. This is your host, Amanda. In case you didn't know, in case you didn't know, I just made eggs. And you guys, I know you like love to call me out for the egg thing. But like, I have the most love and hate relationship with them. Like, there are weeks when I'm like, I found my new egg recipe that will make me really

happy and yummy. Like, I've been grading parmesan over it in last few weeks, which I had a lot of protein. Anyway, I've been loving it. I've been putting some chili oil, like putting on a little rice cake, some curturp, and, like, loving it. And then I got the ick today. I got the egg today. You know, maybe I get the ick.

I did forget the parmesan today, but I also added spinach leaves. I know, like, sauteed. Like, not me, like, having in my mind that I need fiber and being like, antin fiber. Like, this is the problem with, you know, trying to be healthy and, like, eat things with nutritional value and eat all the food groups and whatever. It's like, I can't just have the eggs as, like, fat and protein, but where's my fiber? like that's in my mind, which is a good thing.

And by the way, I do get asked a lot about like what my health and wellness journey was. And let's be honest, let's put it in terms that we, you're not allowed to say weight loss, right? It's not like health and wellness. Like I wanted to lose the weight after I gained weight pregnant. And it was mostly changing the food. I know that I post that I workout and I do not that much. Like it's like once or twice a week. Plus I try to like walk and whatever else.

But really the working out is like to get tone and get fit. And I do feel that. Like, I feel like, for example, I've always had, like, thick thighs and, like, a butt. But I do feel like working out made it so it's, like, more toned and not just, like, flab. And it's, like, getting stronger and all those things. And you do hear everywhere, it's really good for your body to, like, lift weights and whatever. And I'm down with it. I've never, I think the reason I've never liked working out before is, like, I don't like cardio.

Like, I don't like to breathe, like, pant and sweat. But, like, I don't mind strength training. Like, I really don't. It's actually really nice. So just to people's question about losing weight postpartum, you know, give yourself grace. I know I barely gave myself grace. Looking back, I'm like, damn, like I was really hard on myself. But at the same time, like, I'm there with you.

Like, I understand. It's so annoying to gain so much weight when you're pregnant and have to then deal with it, even though in your mind you're like, I'll give birth to and out. No, it's like, you're going to have to deal with the weight. And for me, you know, I gave birth in June. And in April, I was like, what the fuck? the only weight that I've lost is like whatever comes out at the beginning when the baby comes out, basically.

And I had so much to lose. And I started working with a nutritionist, the SWW method, and Sarah Ragg. And she really, I won't forget when she was like, what are you eating now? And I was like, in the morning yogurt, she's like, great, what's in it? And I'm like chocolate chips, nuts, granola, cereal, like, strawberries. And it was like coconut yogurt. She's like, okay, so no protein, lots of sugar, keep going. And really, it's so strange, but only then did I realize, like, that you have to build out your meals to have all these things.

Like, you can't just have just a bowl of sugar and fat and have no protein, no fiber. So these are things that I think about now. I think that's what made the truest difference for me, you know, is really just super low carb, protein, fiber, fuck. You know, it's just really being on that. that shit. And the minute that you are not on that shit, then you know, shit gets fucked. And there are days that I'm better, days that I'm worse, like when I started with her. But when I decided to sign up with the nutritionist, I knew I was going to take it super seriously. I literally traveled with a blender as I could make protein smoothies. Okay, I was like insane. Obviously, I've like calmed down. I allow myself

more. But it's just, it's not easy. And I feel all the mom is out there. Arielle, my sister is pregnant. She's doing like a month. It really flew by for me. And I feel her. I'm like, she can complain to me all day about the weight gain because I know it, I feel it, I get it. It's part of the reason, you know, I don't know about a third baby. It makes me, like, nervous to have to deal with all that again. But I do feel like if I would, then I would go into it, like, more prepared, knowing more I'm already working out.

I could continue working out. And it's funny, I told my trainer, I was like, if I get pregnant again, like, if I decide to have another baby, like, I am not gaining weight. Like, I am not getting weight. And he, like, going to be in front of me. He was like, yeah, you're like, I'm going to lose weight. I'm like, yeah. Anyway, I'm not going to, don't worry.

I'm not an idiot. Anyway, in a sharp turn, we could talk about this all day. That's what I should be talking about in this podcast. Fuck, it's called not skinny, but not bad. It would make sense when we're going to talk about weight and stuff like that. But anyway, much more interesting, much more importantly. I just love when reality stars come on my pod because I get to talk to them about whatever I want. No trepidation.

No, like, oh, that's maybe. Not sensitive. Like, we get into it all. They're open books. They put their life on TV. They're messy. They're fun. And I can never get enough.

Sally Carson is here from Southern Charm. I love Southern Charm. I feel like it gives. It just gives. There's so much. There's so much drama. There's always hooking up. There's always changes.

And Sally was a freaking hit this season. Our tornado, a hurricane, chaotic. All the things that everyone's calling her. And she took a lot of shit from a lot of people. She got a lot of shit from a lot of people. But she also, yeah, She calls some chaos. She's here.

She talks about it all. She actually even came in. And again, this is why reality stars are a different, different breed. She came in super upset because something had happened with the cast member was texting her. It was like a whole thing. We get into it a little bit. Obviously, that's going to play out. I'm assuming next season because this drama is happening right now in real time.

And that's just the life of Bravo, which I love. It's like it's very real. The drama is very real. It's happening. all the time and around the clock. But we talk about it all this season, Austin, Craig, everything in between. So enjoy this one.

Here's Sally. You're shaking up. What's going on? I'm shaking up. What can you share about why you're... What's that right now? Why would Wittner have it out for you? I saw some...

Watch what happens live shade a little bit. That's why. I think... And it wasn't even that big of a deal, but since I said that, I think... What did you say? Exactly. I said that you don't know him yet.

Oh. Because everyone's like, why is all the girls not going after a witness? Right, right. And I was like, I don't think you've gotten a chance to know him yet. Because you feel like you know something that we don't. I think he's an entitled prick. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

I think he reminds me of JT. A lot. Yeah. And I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way. So you said, you didn't say all of this. You just said, no. I'm saying it now because I'm not holding back now. Because I saw the text message.

he's sending about me. So he has it out for you? He has it out for me. Because of that one comment. I guess so. Because everything's been so positive online. So that one negative thing that I said, people are like questioning,

like, what could be going on with Wittner, you know? And he was like really on his high horse. Like, ooh, I'm getting all this attention. Everyone loves me. There's no negative press about me. And then the one time I said that, he was like, but I just talked to Rodrigo. I just talked to Vanita on the phone.

like, I tried to call Charlie. She was in a meeting. So no one, you were trying to see if this is true. Yeah, and Vanita said it's 100% true. Vanita was like, he called me. What? So why didn't anybody tell you? I don't know.

That's why I'm like, I'm in the dark. I'm like, okay, this is weird. So he called her, but she was not going to be. Yeah, I mean, she was like, I'm not bothered by this. Like, I don't want to be in the middle of this, basically. So that's why she didn't call me because she was just like, it's nothing. I have real shit going on, you know? Okay, this is a fucking turn, I didn't think.

I didn't either. I got the text on the way, like literally in the car on the way here. And you're shaken by, like, that's why we're talking about it right now as we're starting because you walked in, like, obviously, like, shaken by news that you've gotten. Extremely, because I'm just, I'm confused. We kind of made up at the reunion a little bit, like afterwards. I was like, look, like, I don't know why we're beefing. We don't really have anything against each other.

So then to hear this now, I'm kind of just, I thought we were good. So what's your plan of action? do not have one yet. I just think that he's messing with the wrong girl. And the only person that should be looking out is him. Okay, this was the question I was going to ask later on. But like, okay, Charlie didn't answer, but Rodrigo and Vanita did. Who's your friend in this group who would fucking call you, you know,

and now wait for you to call them and tell you this? Like, do you feel like you have support in that group? Yeah. Okay. And I think, you know, obviously I want to call Madison, but I don't want, she's on a trip right now. And I don't want to bother her. She's like.

Oh, right. She's like skiing. Yeah. And when she gets home, I'll tell her. But Madison and Austin are my like, and Rodrigo are like my. So did Rodrigo not know about this? He didn't really, he said that he like, Molly said something about it a little bit, but it didn't really like raise flags in his head to tell me. Yeah.

So I don't know. I mean, like, I hope Charlie doesn't know about it yet because that would be really sad if she did and like didn't tell me. because we talk every day. It wouldn't be... Austin had no idea because I think he's coming after Austin too. That is a bad move, Wittner. What are you doing?

Yeah, what are you... Are you trying to have a... Are you trying to ruin this? Which is a wrong move, buddy. That is a wrong move. Like, especially with Madison in my corner, I'm like, you're not... She'll eat you alive.

Yeah, like, don't mess with me. Okay, let's rewind. Let's do like they do on Southern Charm where it's like one week earlier. One week earlier. Sally's here. Hi. I literally came in here like a bull and a giant job.

But this is what I love about Bravo. Sorry, I know this is a real moment for you. But I want people to know that it's real because, you know, and I have been saying this for years with Bravo shows, like, yes, we learn some time. We see the cameras and like, you're like, oh, but was it? And then they plan. But you also, when you get to know the people, the drama is so real. The drama is so real.

And, you know, if it was Vanderpump and you would talk to these people a year later and they would still be seething over the drama. You know, it's like very real. And so that's why seeing you come in the way that you did and experiencing this, which will maybe see next season play out or whatever it is. And you're like, this is all your lives and is all happening. It's too much. I mean, Benita literally goes, can we get a break? I'm like, no, they don't want us to have a break. I mean, we're always dealing with you.

You guys are filming a lot. Yeah. Okay. You watching this season back is like I feel for you a little bit because, again, going back to the like, where are your friends vibes? I know. Charlie's dating Craig while you like him. You're watching this.

Like, how much did you know or how much did you find out, like, from watching the show? I didn't know anything between Charlie and Craig. The painting, the gallery visits, the date. I knew a little bit about that. But, I mean, we were all in a group chat, and we would text and, like, we'd all go to dinner together. Like, and then it kind of felt weird because they were texting the entire time outside of the group chat and, like, FaceTiming and stuff. And I just had no idea. And I probably would have gone about it a different way had I known that they were getting so close, you know?

But I just was left in the dark. So you found out, like, when the show aired? At the end. At the end. Yeah, I find out a lot more at the finale, yeah. So them keeping this from you, I mean, not them, because Craig, you probably feel like you don't know me anything. Yeah, yeah. But with Charlie.

Because you had called her, I think you used the word, the term best friend. Yeah, I did. And I do think I use that term loosely. Yeah. But, no, I adore Charlie. Like Sheena vibes. Yeah, yeah. But like I can't, I mean, I couldn't wrap my head around it because she always was so honest with me about everything going on in her life.

And like I do get it. She probably felt awkward, especially like because it's Craig. And she doesn't really owe me anything to tell me like everything that's going on. But it just was different for our friendship. So I just felt a little rattled and like betrayed. Because the way that it is, the way that the episodes were coming out, it was like you were feeling Craig, you were getting the chickens, you told him this at the supermarket or whatever.

Meanwhile, he's courting. her. Yeah. Like, that's what it looked like. And I had no idea. And you had no idea. I had no idea. I mean, because before Charlie came into the group, like, I brought her in on the, on my singles party. Right. And that's when she met everyone for the first time. Prior to that, for a week, like, a couple weeks, like, I was hanging out at Craig's, not just with Craig. We were never like, alone. So you hooked them up, basically. Yeah. You brought them together. And I knew, I kind of knew it was going to happen. Like, there was a phone call. They didn't air between me and Austin before my singles party. And I was like, I think Craig and Charlie are going to hit it off.

Just because they seem like each other's vibes, you know? Yeah, so it wasn't, I mean, like, I expected it, but I didn't really expect her to be so secretive about it. How much did you actually like him? Oh my God. We didn't even kiss. You didn't even kiss? No. So all the fucking hot tub visits and you didn't hook up?

No. Did you make a move? No. He didn't either. And he didn't on Charlie either. Like, it was just very like, Craig is not. That's sexual? No.

Well, I was, I was, I actually. I watched the screener, so I couldn't post about it, but I, like, saved a draft of what I was thinking, was like him and Charlie on the boat. And they were like, it's so nice. He's like, it's so nice to be alone with you. And all I was thinking is like, and they were like, the notebook. I'm like, fucking kiss her. Like, if you're not going to make out soon, then you're going to be friends. Yeah.

Let me talk about it at the reunion a little bit. Oh, you do. Yeah. So, yeah, it's good. But, yeah, it's very weird. Craig definitely gave, like, friendship vibes the whole way through it with both. of us, I think. So my liking to him was not that deep at all. It was not deep. And they made it look like I'm so obsessed with them. But that's just not. Well, the friendship with Vanita was

kind of ruined over it. Yeah. And you kind of, you were standing your ground. She was standing her ground. She was for sure. And but you were standing here. You're like, no, I like him. I want to keep hanging out. Why was that so important to you then if, when you were making a point that she can't like tell you what to do? Yeah. And also like I, everyone was saying there was this narrative going on behind my back that I didn't know that, like, Craig's going to break her heart, this and that. I'm like, guys, I'm not, like, falling in love with Craig. Yeah. I'm fine. Like, did you just having fun? Were you just DTF with Craig? I mean, if he would have tried, I probably would have. But, like, that didn't happen. You didn't see, like, marriage and babies

with Craig. No. You wanted to hang. Yeah. And, like, especially, I didn't know him that well. And so I, I just, like, was, like, this guy's hot, you know? And then the more I got to know, him, you know, there was arguments, there was drama, there was fighting. I was like, mm-mm. So you were okay with that not happening? Yeah. And when you did find out about Charlie and him, like, did it hurt? It, not the her and Craig thing because, like, me and Craig were never going to work out. So, like, if they were supposed to be together, I always want happiness for my friends. So I would have, like, loved the relationship between the two of them. But the thing that hurt me was her not being honest about it. Yeah. Because that's just not how we ever have done our

friendship. Yeah. So that just kind of like was hurtful. And on the show, the friends were kind of saying that you were trying to sabotage Charlie and Craig at some point. And I never. Because you were telling her that he said that he thinks he's going to hurt her or something. Yeah, he's going to fall in love with her. Right. That she's going to fall in love. I heard that straight from Shep's mouth. I mean, he was like, can you leave? Those voice gossip more than. fucking girls. And he's like, can you believe the ego on this guy? He said that Charlie's going to fall in love with him.

And he's going to break her heart. And I was looking at him like, well, what if she does that to him? Yeah. Like, why does he assume that? Yeah. He said it to multiple people. Like, I think Austin and Wittner both confirmed it on. Watch what happens the other week.

Yeah. Like, Chef 100% said that. And then I look like the bad guy, but I'm not going to not tell my good friend. Yeah. You know? What were they calling you this season? Creature of Chaos. Yeah.

It's a great word for me. Do you like it? Yeah, I kind of like it. I mean, it's really, really describes me well. I'm very chaotic. But, like, they're chaotic too. They are, but I'm like, you little hypocrites. Right.

And then they get on me about, like, going out and, like, partying so much. No, chef and Craig talking about you at Wittner's farm. Yeah. Like ranch or whatever. Them just, like, being like, she's a gossip queen, you know? And she's, I'm like, these. I'm like, shook. These two gossip queens.

Yeah. You know? Shep's the biggest, like, Shep told everyone about the rumor about Austin before telling Austin. Pretty much everyone, like, on the cast. Right. I'm like, like, he calls me. He's like, hey, this was said, but like, do you think we should bring it up? I'm like, you're totally just trying to get someone to bring it up on camera.

Like, and you don't want to be the one to do it. No, it's wild. I know. And do you know what else I found out in this episode is the Molly situation with you? Because even though we were showed it, the clip without. thousand times at the vagina and the whatever. We kind of see that, like, you never really said anything. I didn't know.

You didn't even pass on the rumor. I said a little remark to Rodrigo. But that was it. But, I mean, Rodriguez was like, my best friend. I'd tell him everything. Yeah, I don't know. That is one thing, like, watching back, I was shocked by. Because when you and Molly were fighting at the previous party, it was, like, bad.

Yeah. It was ugly. It looked like, you know, there was no coming out of that. But then later, when you were talking about, you were like, I didn't even, Vanita came to my house, told me about it. And then you guys were kind of talking about. Maybe she's trying to pit you against each other? Yeah, yeah, it did feel like that. And, you know, even watching it back, I still was watching Molly's screen screens.

Like, damn. She's angry. Like, at me still. And I'm like, I thought that we were, you know, I'm texting all these girls. I'm texting Vanita during filming. I'm texting Molly during filming. And Charlie and, like, everyone, I'm talking about. thinking I'm solid with these girls.

Yeah. And like even when the Craig thing was going on, you know, Benita gave me the curfew and... Okay. No, no. But, no. We talked about this curfew. What do you mean she gave you a curfew?

She said you can't hang out with him past midnight. And why would you say okay? I was trying to... I don't know. I was just trying to please my friend. And I didn't know how to handle the situation. So I'm like, okay, if she wants to give me a curfew and that makes her happy... You know, people think this is very weird, though.

No, it is really weird. So she has your location. She has my location. Okay. And she said, while we're watching you guys not be that friendly at the time, because she's mad at you that you're continuing with this Craig friendship, she's like, okay, okay, okay, at least leave by midnight, Cinderella? And then when I'm, like, at his house, like, past midnight,

she's, like, texting me, like, are you okay? Do you need a neighbor home? Like, she cares about me, and I know that, but this was, like, a little bit too intense. Where do you think that comes from? I don't know. I think I've spoken to her. She's been on my podcast,

and she said she was worried about her friend. That's her bottom line. She was worried about you. Yeah. She was worried about you. Yeah. She was worried about me. And I think that she was more worried about me in a sense,

like, again, that narrative that I was like going to get hurt by Craig. I was like, I can handle my own. But I think they also were just like worried about Craig being Craig, like his anger issues and like yelling at me. And I'm like, again, I can hold my own. Like, I'm fine. Yeah. And if I see that side of him, I'm going to walk away. Yeah.

So how do you feel? Because you were saying like you thought you were fine with Molly. Yeah. And then. I don't, I don't know. So I, her and Witt are like. Oh. Yeah. And so apparently some of this came from Molly. So I'm like. How are you feeling like, do you feel betrayed? I feel betrayed. I also have anxiety. I'm like, I'm scared for next season now because I'm like, are these all, are all of them just going to come from me? Is there anything you feel like, you know, because at the end of the day, you're.

can only be, you know yourself. Yeah. Is there anything you feel like you did that could backfire on you? Mm-mm. No, I don't. Come. Yeah. What are you waiting for?

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Like, it's not, that's not news to me. Like, I'm obviously. Why are you sick toxic, though? You feel toxic is a strong word, though. I'm saying like relationships or situationships that I've had. Like, I'm not, you know, I'm trying to get back to the person I was before my broken engagement. And that's been hard for me. What?

How, how long ago is that? Like five years ago? Five years. Four years. And that's, and then tell, can you expand a little bit about what, what happened with this relationship? Yeah. I mean, we were, we had our whole. wedding planned. And 28 days before my wedding, I got a text or a DM that said, hey, girl, like,

I'm really sorry. I've been hanging out with your fiance. Didn't know that he had a fiance because his Instagram was like all Bronco stuff. It was weird. He was a weird guy. But yeah, and then I remember I was at my sister's house and I kind of just broke down. I was like throwing up crying in her front yard. And I was like, I got in this engagement. And I did it when he was at work. Like I called my wedding plan and I was like You need to cancel this Did she have proof this the girl that damned you? She

Well he admitted to it because Oh you can run She like told me the restaurant because I was like I need to know Like I'm getting married and a mine And she was like well He was wearing a white veneck jeans and flip flops And I was like yep that's my eye The flip flop and jeans really pissed me up

You should have known no I knew immediately when she said fliplops with jeans I was like Wait this is literally a movie movie. I know. You're like, no further proof needed. No, literally.

And it could be Austin, you know? Yeah. Same vibe. Yeah, he'd be wearing shorts, but. So how long were you with this guy before getting engaged? Eight months maybe. Oh, okay. So it wasn't a super long relationship.

But we knew each other before. But yeah, I mean, he, and then he like came in, we were at a wedding in Greenville, and he came into the hotel room and he had just been at a business dinner. And I was like, did you do this? And he was like, no, no, I've never met her in my life. And I was like, oh, so you didn't walk into this restaurant and your white v-neck, your jeans and your flip-flops. And then he just looked me and he goes, yep, I sure did. And I was like, yeah, I thought so.

And then I actually had COVID. So I couldn't fly home and had to ride back to Virginia with him, like the whole way with COVID. And I was like, I had to quarantine. And, like, cough all over him. Yeah. And then I packed my stuff and left. And then that's when the bachelor happened. Did he try to beg for his life or did he know that?

Yeah, I ended up, well, I went on The Bachelor and I ended up leaving. Was it clean season? Yes. Why did you live? Because it was clean? No, he was great. Honestly, he really was. I know.

It was before. I mean, the dancing. The dancing is so cringe. Yeah, I know. I was going to say it was before the dancing. But he had women. You guys, don't forget, you watch those dancing videos. He had 35 women, including Gabby that, you know, everyone knows and loves.

Yeah. And pilot Rachel. Yeah. And you, fighting for him. So you left the season. Because I felt like I was still in love with my ex. And I was like, this is way too soon. And then I got back together with my ex.

Oh, you did? I did. And then he cheated on me again. How'd you find out the second time? I went through his phone. I know. I'm not proud of it, but I'm glad I did. How long were you together the second time?

Maybe like a little under a year. Because then I went to Bachelor on Paradise. Wait, which Bachelor on Paradise were you on? No, like who was there? Justin Glaze. I went for him. You went for Justin? Yeah, love Justin.

Did you get together? We have history, but I left in four hours because it was so toxic. Wait, you left? Yeah, I was on the beach for literally four hours. You felt like it was too toxic? Yeah, the girls were bullying me. Who? Genevieve and Chenet.

Why? I don't know. I guess they had the whole, they like went through my suitcase, like my fake suitcase. It wasn't my real suitcase. And like there was like a vibrator in there and like extensions and like all this stuff that they were like, the production like made them go through it. and I didn't know any of that was happening behind my back. And then I get there and the first thing they talk about is my ex-fiance.

And I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm not doing this. So you left. Yeah. So you left the Bachelor and you left Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. So are you axed from the Bachelor franchise forever because you love two shows? I don't know.

How does that work? I'd love to go back. Were they back? I was like, give me for Bechner. You're like, I swear I won't leave this time. No, I'm dead. I want to go back. She wants to go back.

You want to go back. I would love to go back to the beach. To the beach? To Bachelor and Paradise. Only, they're cracking up. Bachelor and Paradise, you want to go back or the Bachelor? Yeah, I think it'd be fun. Bachelor in.

Yes. Yeah, I feel like you need to lean in. I mean, that's like a mean girl situation, but yeah, Bachelor and Paradise can be fun. But tell me, because, you know, people that have seen you come on Southern Charm, you were on Southern Hospitality for a little bit. There was Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise. Was there anything else? No. I hope not.

So people would be like, wait, this girl really wants to be on TV. That's like my most, I hate when people say that. Okay. Would you say what? I would say. Why can't you just be like, yeah, I want to be on TV? What's the prize? I mean, now I can say that because I'm very happy with Southern Charming and like my friend group and, you know, it feels like a little family.

But a Toxy family. A Toxie family, yeah. And I actually enjoyed doing it. But Bachelor, you know, I was really in my like revenge. Like, it was a week after I can. cancel my wedding and they called me and they were like, we heard your story. We want to like, how did they hear it? I don't know. I think the girl that he cheated on me with had to have sent my name in, like, because she felt bad or something. You didn't send an application. They

came to you. And people think that like I was interviewing for The Bachelor why I was engaged. That was not the case. Yeah, it was crazy. Wait, you think the girl that fucking told you that he was cheating on you, sent you in. Yeah. And it was like, take her for the Bachelor. I asked all my friends. They were like, no, why would we do that? You were engaged a week ago. Yeah. So I went because I was like, you know what? Okay. Yeah, like, fuck him. Like, I'm going.

I'm going to go get revenge, basically. Yeah. Regretted it instantly when I got there. Because it fell too soon. It felt too soon. And then the next time I went, I was like, you know, I missed this opportunity last time. And they asked me to go and they, you know, they offered me good money. I was like, I'm going.

Yeah. So then I went. And then Southern Hospitality, I'm at Uptown Social on King Street. it's like my first month of living in Charleston. I know nothing about anyone there. And God, I wish I could go back to those days. But I was on the rooftop and I remember Joe Bradley had no idea who he was.

And he looks at me and he goes, because I think they had only aired for like, and I'm not like a big reality TV girly, but he looks at me and he was like, you're cute. And I was like, so are you. So he said, like very authentically, like naturally not together. No, they were not filming yet. So I started talking to him.

And then my friend that I was with there was like, do you know who that is? I was like, no. She's like, that's Joey Bottles. I was like, who the fuck is Joey Bottles? And then I was like, oh, he's on the show. But at that point, we were already kind of texting and hanging out. And he was like, you should come do this. And I'm like, okay.

And then Southern Charm, Madison DM'd me. And she was like, don't kill me. And I was like, what did you do? And she was like, I signed you up for my friend of on Southern Charm. So that's how I got to send him. So you were friends with Madison. Yeah. through like just life in Charleston yeah so where did you live before because you said you moved to Charleston

I was in Virginia for like four years is that where you're from where you're from greenville oh okay okay and then you were Virginia and then you came and for southern hospitality were you working at one of love as places at the time I was working as a hostess at Republic oh really yeah with molly wait with molly yeah and that's how we became friends and you were friends then and good vibes and everything. Joe Bradley went on to have a career. Yeah. In women, too. Luanne de la Ceps. But him and Maddie Reese are like perfect. Yeah. They're great. Yeah. I love both of them. You support. So you would say to the people that are saying she wants to be famous, she, you know, tried to get on these shows. You would tell them. I would say that all of these shows landed in my lap and like who the hell would not say yes. Yeah. You know? Did you have any desire? Like when you were a young girl to like be famous.

or be on TV. Like, did you see your... No? No? I mean, your job is crazy different. Yeah. Are you still working? Can you remind me what will you do again? I control a robot and spine surgery.

Insane. Yeah, I work hand in with the surgeon. Like, I'm not scrubbed in or anything, but it's more of a guidance system. Do you learn this specific robot? Mm-hmm. What is it... What did you study? Like, what is it called?

Well, no, I went to college for retail management. Oh, okay. Fashion merchandising. And then my senior year, I couldn't change my major and I knew I wanted to be somewhere in the health care. And I found medical sales college online. And my parents were like, this is a scam. You're not going. And I remember I was a nanny.

I like took the child. I was babysitting to Wells Fargo. I got a $15,000 personal loan out. I drove myself to Denver. I went to the school and it's the best thing I've ever done. I've had the same job since. Wait, so you went to this school for medical sales? For medical sales.

And I specialized in the spine when I was there. And it was like a eight-week rush course. Yeah. And so I just lived in Denver for eight weeks, studied, learned the spine. And then they put my name out there for jobs. And someone called me. And I got the, they were like, are you interested in spine and robotics? And I was like, that sounds cool.

So it's not sales, though, at all? No, I'm not really selling anything, no. So you're in this, in a surgery? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I love it. You love it. I love it.

I would, I mean, if it came down. Is it daily? No. Okay. So it's whenever, because like surgeons will have clinic, you know, two or three times a week, and then they operate two or three times a week. And I'm only there when they need the robot or when they want the robot. Do you, where is this robot? It lives at the hospital. It's big. It's big. I know. It's like me like. So what is your, how often do you do this? Like three days a week? Three days a week. Yeah. And you love it. And it's a huge juxtaposition. Oh, I would, I would, if it came down between reality TV. in that job, I would quit reality TV in a second. And you did? Am I mistaken that you said how much you made the first season when you were on Southern Charm? Yeah, that was taken out of context. Okay. Yeah, that's not like from just that one job.

I was thinking like the whole picture, you know, like of what I make. They asked me like how much I make. Oh. But I was including everything. Oh. That I'm doing. Like including influencing, including like, you know. Oh, got you.

Got you. So that was taken out of context. And there was not happy people at the hospital because they were like, she makes what, you know? And I'm like, that was, you know, taken out of contact. So I know, because I remember when you had some offline drama with Taylor, Shepp's Taylor. Yes. You know, people were really sensitive about it hurting your job.

Like, I remember that. Yeah, because it was. Yeah, because it was looking out for you because we had talked about something on the pod and she was like, that's not a good idea. So I know the people were looking out for your job. Is that something that you think about a lot with filming? Like, what can hurt this? Yeah. And like, I also would love this show.

show that side of my life, too, because it's so important to me. But at the same time, it's like, I don't want to open that door because, like, that could easily get me, you know. It's scary. Kicked out of the hospital or something. You know, fans are so crazy that can fucking write to your boss or something, you know? No, they do. So fans, like, have some figured it out? Fans, like, will comment and, like, try to, like, make assumptions, like, I'm, you know, doing things within the hospital. They're, like, are not good or, like, whatever.

and I'm just like, I'm calling Bravo. And I'm like, can we get these comments thinking now? This is just like absurd. People just like want to ruin my life for no reason. Because this is really important to you. We're saying like if it came down to it. It's so important to me. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I would quit this life in a heartbeat to just do what I do. Because I leave like filming and I kind of have anxiety or I'm just not feeling, you know, that great about myself sometimes. And then I leave the hospital and every single time I leave, I'm like, damn, You feel like you did something great. I just helped that person, you know? And it's like an empowering feeling to be able to do that.

And I appreciate it so much. And also maybe to not completely rely on this, like to know that you have something else. And it keeps me very grounded because I'm like, this is reality. This is what's important. This is what's important. Like saving lives. Exactly. Right?

You're saving lives. I mean, I would say enhancing, enhancing lives. Yeah. Let's be more dramatic. Saving lives it is. Do you feel like judged by this? the people in Charleston. Like, you were just saying, like,

you did say a second ago, uh, before it was just the beginning. Like, I barely knew anybody. The good old day is like, yes. I mean, it's just like so incestual there. And like, everyone knows everything you're up to.

I'm like, why do you care so much about like, like, there was this drunk girl in the bathroom the other day. And she's like, I mean, wasted. And she's looking at me and she's like, you're 98% of what my girl group talks about. And, like, I think that you should carry yourself differently in some situations. And I'm like, bitch, I don't know you. What do you mean?

And I'm like, I don't care if your friends are talking about me. And I was like, and this is why I hang out with the guys because y'all are mean. Girls are mean to you. I mean, I mean, not my girls. Yeah. You know, I have a solid group of six, like, girls from college that aren't, yeah, that are not associated with this. And they are the best people in my life. How do they support you through, like, times like this?

I mean, they're just. always there, you know, they're the people I call first and they know. But they also, they just have great advice for me. I mean, they can't watch it. They're like, that's not our Sally. Yeah. They're like, looking. They're like, we can't look at you in that, in that way. But they just support me and everything I do. So what do you think that, what is something that people aren't seeing of you on the show? I mean, I probably how good of a friend I am. Like, I really am, like, I take pride in being a good friend, you know, like, there's instances where I will, I will always put my friends above my own needs. Like, if my girlfriends need me, I'm there all the time.

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Like, I want Austin's dick or like, what did you say? I was just being honest. I mean, like, can you blame a girl? You were being honest in that moment. That's what you wanted. You wanted Austin's Dick in that moment. He's like, I'm going to the bathroom. You're like, I'm going to the bathroom.

You're like, I don't know. Not necessarily in the bathroom. Yeah, yeah. In that moment, but in general. But you were feeling him. Yeah, I'm still feeling him. You're still feeling him. Yeah.

Sally. I know. I get giddy when I talk about him. Are you like a thingy? No. Dinging? Mm-mm. Okay.

But he's who I was literally in the Uber talking. I was like crying on the phone. I was like, and he was. You guys? the only thing I'm worried about you guys is I feel like the beginning of your relationship, you're like, what are you going to say? No, that you're beginning of your relationship, you know, when you have a common enemy, a common enemy could bring two people together.

So when I saw you guys like talking about Craig, that's when you guys were really like vibing, you know? It's true. It's true. Like your mutual, like annoyance with Craig. And together being able to like bounce off each other, I was like, oh my God, they're thriving. off a common kind of enemy.

But aside from that, like, are you said you're looking for something serious in your life, right? I am. Do you think that Austin could be that? I do, but not like right now. I think we have such a good friendship and we rely on each other a lot and we support each other a lot. And I think we both like what we have, you know, right now.

Which is? Just a really good friendship. I mean, like, we talk every day. Hucking up? There's a little mess around. I saw the coming scenes, baby girl. Yeah, there's a little bit of messing around for sure. Are you protecting yourself?

Yeah. Not like that kind of like your heart. Yeah. And like this is a thing. Like it's so funny to me in Austin. We talk about it. Like everyone calls me like Sally's got to be a stage five clinger just because of everything that went down with Craig this season.

I'm like, most guys that I've been with have like ended it with me because they can't keep me inside. You know? Like I'm like I'm not a clinger at all. I think me and Austin like, we kind of vibe with that because we'll be out at dinner and he's like talking to other girls

because like we know we're not I don't really think we're ready for each other right now you know I think we're both just it could be something in the future I do I do think that I think all of our castmates would feel the same way really when has when did people start feeling this

like towards the end of last season like you guys got close towards the end of the season yeah we got really close and I think what brought you close hating Craig Just, yeah, probably. Well, in the middle of the season, I feel like you guys were chatting at the bar restaurant when Audrey left. Watching that back, I felt so bad.

I was like, because I didn't know that that was going on. And she's so sweet. She really is. Well, she was saying, I think she was telling Austin, you don't even say hi to her, though. Yeah, I don't think I thought that she wanted me to because, like, I knew that, like, Like, she kind of knew that I had. I thought her boyfriend was, like, hot and had a good personality or whatever. But I never made a move on Austin during that relationship.

And I think that... When you found out. I know. I was... I get icky watching it again. Like, I was not good. But I was really... What?

I know. He was really excited. Did he really say down dog when he was going in the bathroom? Yes, he did. That annoyed me. Yeah. Yeah. He was like Sally Down Dog.

I know. Why? Because he could, like, knew that you were feeling him? Yeah. It wasn't hard to see. I was like, I was coming in hot. I was coming in hot. But yeah, but he was so respectful of Audrey during their relationship.

Like, we were friends and I wanted to, like, go to lunch with him one day because we have this spot, Sontes and Charleston, and we love it. And he was like, we have to invite someone else too. Like, I can't go to lunch with you one-on-one, like, while I'm in a relationship. So I will say, like, I think that our friendship got even deeper, like, when they broke up, obviously. Because then we could actually hang out one-on-one, and we never were doing that before. Did you have an inclination that their relationship was going to end? Yeah, I did. Just from what people were saying in the group, you know.

But I think we both are under, like, if I got a boyfriend, I think he'd be annoyed. And if he got a girlfriend, like, I'd be annoyed. So are you not dating? I mean, I'm definitely, like, talking to people. I'm just not seriously dating, you know? Are you on apps and stuff? No. Just Instagram.

I slide up. in the DMs. Yeah? Like what? Like, like, like, like people that we know? I, yeah. Like, who? I mean, I just slid into Cooper de Jeans, football player for the Eagles. Oh, you did. Yeah, a little 22 year old. 22? Did he answer? Well, he's like dating a 40, or not dating casually seeing a 43 year old right now. She has all the stats. She has all the deeds. Oh my God, he's dating Nikki Bella. Well, I sent him the, the article. And I was like, are you dating her? Oh, that was your slide?

No, no, no. No, I liked two pictures of his, and then he, like, two pictures of mine. And then, like, I was just like, fuck it. Did he answer? Yeah. I have his number. Oh. That guy.

That guy. I think he's so cute. Wait, so. He's going to kill me. Okay, so they're not. He did me back pretty quickly. Oh, he did? Yeah.

Does he have a lot of fun? followers? Is he like a big interim guy? Really? Over a million, yeah. So I was shocked when he replied back. Did it end there? I told him happy birthday like two days ago. Is anything that come from this? I mean, I would love to meet him if he's not dating her. He's like there's all these articles that they are dating, but he and all of his interviews is like...

Saying no? No, yeah. Interesting. What happened to man? No, I'm scared because that girl's going to beat my ass if they are dating. I mean, it's fake beating. I'm a cheating ass though, the WW. Okay, she can know me. Yeah.

Tell me what happened to man bun guy. He cheated on me. He's a cheater, too. I know. It's so sad. Yeah, I mean, like not... He seemed like he was so... Those are the guys you got to be aware of.

He seemed so into you. I know. I mean, like he... Wanted to make out all the time. Yeah, I love making out. No, but he seemed like he was just couldn't get enough of you. Yeah. And that was not the case because he stopped being.

sexual for like four months in the end. And that's why I started thinking like what's going on. And he left his Apple Watch at my house. And there was no passcode on it. And what did you see? Like he'd been talking to a girl for like a month and a half. Oh my God. No, nothing. She lived in Savannah. I know. And people wonder why I'm so not well. I'm sorry. I have gone through it. In relationships, you mean. In relationships. But people. People would then ask, are you making a smart decision now with having this Austin thing going on? You know? I think I'm making a smart decision by keeping it as, like, friends.

Because he really does, like, he helps my mental status. He does, listen, this season especially, like, I feel like we're seeing such a different side to him. And, I mean, I've always said, and I said the season, too, like, at the moments with his family, you can tell, you could tell how a guy is, like, really by how he is with his family. also hasn't been a great partner on the show and from what we've seen. But he seems very sweet with his sister and his mom and that's important. Yeah. But what do you think is happening between him and Craig? Like what is what is the fucking who's jealous of who are both of them? Are they in love with each other? Like what is going on there if you had to guess? I have no idea. I think it's just a friendship that has like competition. You know, I think I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say

that they're jealous of each other, but I just think that they like, I don't know. I don't know. And they just frustrate each other. Everything that they do. Everything. Everything.

I mean, he said, Austin said that he hates him. I know. And like Craig, but like Craig says, you know, stuff like, what do you have to show for five years or life? I know.

And that's so. It's harsh. Yeah, that's so harsh. Both of them were harsh. But all of us want to see them be friends. I just like, think that there's always going to be some underlying tension

for God knows what reason. Who said to who you're talking to my enemy? Did Austin? Craig said it to me. And then I told Austin. He ran. Yeah. Didn't even wait like 30.

I know. I know. You're talking to my enemy, you said to you. Like that's so fucking heavy and dramatic. I know. And they're dudes. I know. It's supposed to be like, chill.

You're talking to my enemy. And they're supposed to be friends. Look, I think it's hard when you're like friends. on a TV show, and, like, one might be getting, you know, more famous, like, growing, like, I don't know. I think that there's, like, I don't want to say jealousy because I know it's not jealousy, but, like, competition. Yeah.

And I think that there's, like, I think I would be the same, you know, if I brought Charlie on and then, like, Charlie, like, skyrocketed. I'd be happy for her and everything, but I also would be kind of, like, underlying, be like, well, why wouldn't, like, why do people like her more than me? So this would be Austin in this situation. Yeah. Would feel that way about Craig. Like, why is he getting more famous than me?

And then I think, like, Craig's, like, you can do so much more and, like, be so much better. And then it's just, like, it doesn't work on. I don't know. But they also, like, trigger each other. They trigger each other so much. But we need to, I mean, the craziest thing about this season of me was the chickens. All of it for me. I do not like birds.

So you even holding that bird, like, gives me, like, you know, but you literally got chickens safe to say because of Craig. I mean, I wouldn't say I got him for Craig, but yes, it was like a conversation. We were in the hot tub, and he was like, we were talking about farm life. And I was like, I've always wanted chickens. And he was like, me too. He's like, but I can't have chickens here because of my HOA. And I was like, I can have chickens. I don't have an HOA.

And he's like, should we get chickens? And I was like, let's do it. Because I'm someone that's very spontaneous. Yeah. I'm like, if it doesn't work out, I'll get rid of the chickens. So you got the chickens. I got the chickens. And they were cute for like a day.

And then what happened? They were so smelly. They had to be under a heat lamp. Who was doing all this? Me. Just you. Yes. And they were living in my guest room because they can't live outside when they're babies.

So I should have gotten adult chickens because I didn't know all this. Because I'm thinking, I'm going to take these chickens home. They're going to cuddle with my wiener dogs. They're going to swim in my pool. And then the lady's like, they can't get wet. They'll die when they're babies. And then my dogs tried to murder them every day. So what did you do?

So you'll see in like, I think the last episode or something. But yeah, I don't, I don't have those chickens anymore. That was a crazy. Is that the craziest thing you've done because of a guy? Yeah. I have a lot of tattoos at my left arm. I like one of the set. I hope they're not because I was dating Andrew, the tattooed man, the bun man.

Oh, the bun man? Yeah. But like, now I'm kind of looking back on my life after the chickens and I'm like, did I do that for a man? The chickens or the tattoos? Both. Like, I need some serious therapy of you. So no bad blood. No bad blood. You're good with Craig.

Yeah. You're good with Vanita. I don't know. Now. What did Austin say, though? Oh, he's like done with winter. I could see maybe an inkling of that in the, when you were trying to make up with Benita, you know the scene I'm talking about?

And he came over. Yes. And he got very, like, hot-headed. a second. Right? Do you remember that moment? Yeah. And he does have that. And I don't think that, you know, we haven't seen that yet. But I guess I'm about to see it. So how are you going to take care of yourself before going into next season? Like mental health, all those things. I am actually looking into a place in, I think it's Malibu. My publicist was looking into this place for me, because I was going to go to Arizona and do like a week or a week and a half cleanse of like no phone,

no alcohol and chill out before the next season starts. Do you? Because I think I need that because I'm on my phone so much more than I ever have been. Oh, really? And like people notice it. My family notices it. My friends notice it. Like you're on looking at what people are saying kind of thing?

Not necessarily that. I'm just like on it. Yeah. And it's like I don't want to be like that. And I can admit that I'm doing that. Like I feel my, I know, I put my phone down and pick it right back at. But what about, I know. I've looked at like pickups one time.

It's like $100. 51 times you picked up your phone today. It's terrible. The pickups are crazy. Yeah. I think Vanita was saying that she has like a, she doesn't like a look at social media. Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't.

I think that there will be some stuff that we obviously get sent to us or like see. Yeah. But I mean, I'm looking at all. You're looking. So when you look at like negative things fans say, is that something that? It doesn't bother me. Really? Yeah.

I mean, some things do. But I mean, this one girl sent me like four paragraphs. I sent her the craziest message back. What did she say? She just was like, you're going to be a horrible wife, a horrible mother. You are horrible to your chickens. And she went off about the chickens. And I mean, I said something like I was insane back.

What'd you say? I literally said I'll fuck your dad and make him eat my chickens. No. I was like sending a dinner with Austin and I was like, I'm going to say this. And he was like, do it, do it. And he was like, what's her Instagram handle? And then he looks her up and then he starts damming her. No.

Yeah, and then I block her. So I got the last word. So you block these people. Oh, I literally said that one line and then I blocked her. So she can't reply. I'm going to fuck your dad and make him eat my chickens. Because she was a girl. You could tell that she was like a young girl.

Yeah. No, I think she was like middle age, but. Wait, that makes the dad thing so much worse. That makes the dad thing so much worse. I don't know why I was picking like somebody, at least like the dad is hot. I mean, she just had like pictures. She had like two posts. I know it's those people. It's like, what do you look like? Yeah. What do you look like?

Literally. So that got to you though. And what does your dad look like? Yeah, I did get to me. The bad mother and bad wife thing gets to me just because I know I'm going to be a great mother and a great wife. And is that something you want, you want a family? Because you froze your eggs. You spoke about that? I'm going to freeze your eggs. You have like a plan. Because you don't, you want to be like not have to worry about it. Yeah, there's like one thing that would make me suit. super upset in life, like really, really upset and depressed, and that's not having kids. Like, I would be unwell. I want my own kids so bad.

Yeah. Like my niece and nephew, I mean, they are just like my whole world. I want to steal them all and make them my own. But you're not ready quite yet. I mean, I would say if I, like, happen to, yeah, I mean, like, I want the whole thing of, like, a husband and all of that. It's just, if that doesn't happen for me, like, I would 100% do it on my own. Because you're such a, I mean, it's really nice to see, do you talk about owning your house?

Mm-hmm. You own your home. You have a great job. Like, why do you? If for some reason, like, I were to get pregnant or something, like, I... You feel like you could do it? I could 100% do it. Wow.

Yeah. I just would have to change some of my, like... Lifestyle? Lifestyle. But that's fine because I'm like ready. I would be ready to do that if I had a child. I love that. I love babies, especially mine.

But... Especially my unborn ones. Yeah. Well, you go girl for real. And I can't wait to watch next season. I feel like... I know, I'm already giving teasers for it. It hasn't even happened yet.

We haven't even filmed it yet. Well, we know that you and Austin are going to be... There's going to be a filming situation there. We're definitely going to have... I think it's going to be a really fun season. Especially, like, me and him and Madison and Brett have the four of us have so much fun together. Oh, because you guys were doing like those TikToks. It was so funny.

Yeah. And like, we're going to hang out when we get... back from New York, but it's just like a solid group that is just like carefree and fun. And, you know, two singles and then they have a perfect family. I don't think so. You don't think he cares? I don't know. I mean, I think he definitely wants to be more, I mean, him and Madison have a really good

relationship. And I think he wants to be solid with everyone. And like, we want that too. And like, I would love that. I just think he needs to work on his anger. And I think he knows that too. If I could be anybody on reality TV It would be Madison pregnant

Just like getting the tea And eating She's amazing You know She's perfect It's just like Fucking fun Yeah

Like for her She had bun And now she's like She keeps saying She's like I'm gonna have a hot girl summer So she's excited to not be pregnant this season Yes

I get that And drink with the girls yeah Yeah Well thank you so much for coming Oh my thank you had so much fun Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat.

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