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Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your host, me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. I'm Daisy Kent, and today I'm joined by Jason Masonic. We're here to talk all things dating and to find out, will sorority situationship survive this summer? but we're taking calls from sorority girls to hear their best and worse sorority situationship stories and giving relationship advice. Okay, so Jason, I know you went to the University of Washington, right? What was the dating scene like there when you were there? So back in 1945, no.

It's funny, like, I, just thinking about this conversation and putting myself into like maybe the listeners' eyes or ears, I probably was the one who's played the most. The dating scene, like, I was in a fraternity for two years, and eventually, you know, I had a job outside of that, so I didn't live in more than two years. But my recollection through all that is most people in the Greek system, date people in the Greek system,

and those who escape that may or may not have been happier at the end of the day. But, like, it's like, I have a lot of good memories from me. Yeah, that's awesome. I remember, so I went to Sandy O'State, and I remember I was in a sorority and the dating scene, it was like what you were saying. Like, I feel like everyone in Greek life dated people in Greek life. And then I remember it was always like drama and stuff when people like broke up because then like the guy would start talking to a girl in like a rivalry sorority. The girlfriend talking to a guy and like a rivalry frat. So I remember just being like all this drama and chaos, but it was also like so fun. Well, so for me it feels like it wasn't that long ago, but I've got a son who's in a fraternity now and watching. And he's a good kid. Don't get me wrong.

Like he had a girlfriend going into college and then they kind of dated her on and off a little bit at the beginning. But now the stage he's in, well, let's say for about a year and a half, he was like, I don't want a girlfriend. I've been through too much drama. So I think he was playing the field for a little bit. But I think after a couple years and now he's going to be a senior next year, all of a sudden, like, maybe it just takes a while for us dudes to grow up. But I was probably the same way, but I'm seeing it again firsthand. That's so funny.

I bet that's like fun to like look back on and also like watch him like experience at all. The funny thing that I think about is it's not even the dating piece. Like he's 21 now. But right before he turned 21, he was like, hey, dad, can you soon by and bring me a couple gallons of vodka. And I'm like, well, hold on, bro. Like one, one, you could wait two weeks and two, like heck, no. No. Not like a beer, but like handles of vodka. That's hilarious. I remember when I moved into college too, like my, I was honestly very lucky me and my roommate because her older brother was a senior at the time. And so he would come like drop us off alcohol

at our dorm room. And you would, like, have them in, like, hydro flasks, like, the big, like, hydros. Oh, yeah. You just, like, bring it up in that. But I'm like... So when you, in your sorority, though, did you, were you in a sorority where, like, you didn't live in first, like, you lived in the dorms at first, and then you eventually moved in, or were you in the sorority right away?

Yeah. So, I lived in the dorms, freshman year, sophomore year, I lived on, like, an on-campus apartment because I was out of state and had to live in, or live on campus. And then junior year, I lived in. in the sorority house for like the sororities at SCSU at the time it was like some girls like a few girls lived in when they were sophomores but then like everyone lived in when or a lot of girls lived in when they were juniors but then I went abroad my junior second semester but I loved living in the house it was like so much fun and then senior year everybody moves to Pacific beach

oh that sounds terrible yeah you got to move to Pacific beach yeah but it's I think they're also different. Like, I think about it, like, Molly, my wife, so she went to Indiana and she's like, there were 200 people in her sorority. And I thought our fraternities and sororities were big. They had about 100. But I'm like, I think in double the size, it's like an elementary school. You don't even know half the people.

Or it seems like that. No, that is. It's like so crazy. I remember I knew everyone pretty much. I want to say ours was like probably around that size, maybe a little bigger. But as we got like older, people like dwindled out, I felt like. but I remember, I think like my pledge class was like 70-ish girls. That's, yeah, so you must have been because I mean, ours was probably half that.

We had, yeah, you probably had 200 people. Yeah, I mean, I could be wrong, but I think it was like 70. But then I know like, yeah, as we got older, it dwindled down. But I knew everyone pretty much like in my pledge class. And I feel like half in the grade above and half in the grade below. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. So do you have, so you have good memories of?

it. Yeah, I do. I also actually, so my fiance now, Thor, we actually dated when we were in college and he was in one of the frats. Did you date early on in college with him? Or? So we were like best friends. So we moved into the dorm and I was on a co-ed floor in the dorm. And then we shared like a wall like right next to him was him and my friend Alex. So they became like my really good guy friends. And then we were just. friends and then the like end of our sophomore year beginning of junior year we dated did you ever ask him if he wanted to date earlier he's like yeah i want to be friends with this really pretty girl it'd be really cool to be just friends with her i i mean no not i'd be curious what he says yeah i should ask him

but i mean one time like freshman year he tried to kiss me and i was like what see he wanted something i was yeah i was like really confused but then we like dated for a while but then went back to being friends. But it was kind of funny too because I remember, like, freshman year we were such good friends. And like he was in Sigup and I was in Alpha Phi. And that was like one of the like frats and sororities that like always hung out together. But I remember like just because like we live next door to them.

So like a lot of the guys would always come over there. And like when they would go to the frat house like me and my roommate, Christie would go with them. So we got to see like a lot of the drama and like things that were happening. And I remember like learning that. like older girls were like hooking up with some of the like freshman guys and i mean christie felt like we knew like all the tea about but it's just like such like like it's such a funny like atmosphere like the whole frat and sorority thing but it's like i'm so happy i did it it was so fun

yeah i mean you just meet so many really good people like i i always people always ask me at least through the years they're like so did you like everybody i'm like i don't know it feels like it's like any group of people there's people that you really like there's people that you really like people you don't really know or don't really care. And then there's people you just don't get along with. But in general, it's just a really cool atmosphere. Yeah, for sure. And I feel like college too is such an interesting time because it's the first time you're

kind of like completely on your own, like away from your parents. And it's like, so I feel like you're all like bonding and like learning together, which is really cool. I just think about being a freshman and going in there. And it's your really first experience. Like maybe you were independent. You had a job in high school and all that kind of stuff. but you're out on your own.

You can do what you want. You can stay up as late as you want. You can drink as much as you want. Literally. You can pay whoever you want. Just that freedom is so like intoxicating at first. Yeah. It's like so fun.

It's like terrifying. Like for me like I remember because my two younger siblings, so they're like five and six years younger than me. And I remember when they were going to college, I was like, wait, I'm kind of worried. I'm like, I was okay. I'm like, it's just, it's so like different but so fun. Yeah, like, it's just funny going, it's just funny going through it again.

And like, like, I know the sororities don't do as much or any of the hazing stuff, but even on the flip side, like, I'm sure you'd talk to Thor about this at some point. And seeing my son go through all this stuff with initiation week and all that kind of stuff. Like, did that ever come up with, like, do girls ever talk about that when they know the guys are going through it? I mean, I feel like when I was like a freshman and like going through like recruitment and in my sorority, I mean, girls like you don't. I mean, you have like big little, but like I remember the guys just being like so tired all the time. And like a lot of my guy friends had to get up. Like I feel like theirs was more like mentally hard. And they would have to get up at like four or five a.m.

And go like run this hill that was right by our campus like every morning or something for like a month. And it was like pretty like tall. I guess I always wondered if the girls felt bad or they're like those guys are so dumb. They would go through this. I think I didn't really realize at the time like what. it was like all like entailing and then as like time went on I was like oh really like you guys had to do that so yeah like ours was probably pretty same too but like the worst thing was like you started off and it's you know I don't even think it was a full week it was like five or six

days you kind of lay on the ground you're you're in this room in the basement and they had you bring this cardboard box that you'd sleep on first the first night you sleep inside this giant cardboard box but they play me the music like at full blast like bouncing off the wall so you can't sleep And then the next night they're like, well, it's going to get worse. So you've got to like, they break down the cardboard box. You sleep on top of the cardboard box and then do the same thing again with the music loud. And eventually you're just sleeping on like a little slip of paper like on a hardwood floor. Like, and you just can't sleep.

And I think I do think that the worst part about it is the lack of sleep. But I just always wondered what the girl's thought. Yeah. No, I feel like I remember like looking at some of my like family friends that are like younger and stuff when they would come back. And I was like, recruit or rush. going. They were like, it's okay. Okay, so we have Finley on right now. Thanks for coming on, Finley.

Of course. Thanks for having me. You were just telling us you graduated from UC Berkeley, right? Yes, I did. How was it there? Like, what was the dating scene like? Oh my gosh. It's definitely different. Like, I would say, like, if you were in a Greek life, like, you kind of dated within Greek life. And if you were like an athlete, you were kind of dating within the athletes. And so like I did both.

I was an athlete and on Greek life. But I mean, I feel like the dating scene, honestly, all my friends that I was close with were single for most of it. So it was like kind of dry. But what about when somebody was an athlete and in the Greek life? Can you double dip? Yeah, you can definitely double dip. And so like I probably was more. into like the athlete scene, but like you definitely can go into both.

And I have friends that did both. So yeah, it's kind of your preference, I guess. Okay, cool. Did you date anyone like while you were at the school? Not from Berkeley, no. Okay, cool. So you date people from other schools, just not your own school? Yeah.

I was like seeing people from other schools, but I was like anti-seeing anyone from Berkeley. That's so funny. So that was intentional. You didn't want to date you away from Berkeley. It was like unintentional. And then I realized like in the back of my mind, I was like, wait, no, this is totally intentional. So yeah.

Like when I don't want to see you, like I don't want to have to see you. And it's so nice. And then they're like there on FaceTime if you like feel like calling them. But yeah. So like now are you open to dating? Are you dating? I need to like I'm totally. open. I'm super single right now. And so I'm like, how am I supposed to find someone postgrad?

Like, what, what do we do? Go on the bachelor, Daisy. Yeah. I know. I know, you never know. I know. Oh, that's hilarious. So do you use dating apps? Like, if you don't know, like, what's your instinct or what are your friends do we, like, I've tried the dating apps. My friends have tried the dating abs. And personally, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I feel like it's so superficial. The people that I've met on there, it's like, I've been catfish before. I'm like, I'm done. I can't do it. I don't want to do it. So I'm like, what do? Am I meeting these people at bars? Is it like friends, friends? Like, what are people, what's the magic key to post grad? Because clearly I haven't found it.

Okay. So I think, so I actually, I was on a hinge for like a while, like prior Bachelor. I did it and I would go on like hinge dates. I agree with you about the like dating apps and stuff. I do know a couple of people who have like met their like forever person and are now married or engaged them. But I would say I feel like the dating apps are like good just like if you want to start dating and like go on random dates and they can give you really good stories and they're really funny. But I feel like a lot of my friends like have met people honestly like when they're at work things. which is like not somebody that works for like the company like my best friend my best friend who's getting married in October like she was like worked in San Francisco and then she was out in New York

for work and met this guy who's like also in finance but was like working at a different place and it was just like a happy hour thing and then my other friend I feel like friends where do you live are you selling like San Francisco? Southern California like San Pedro like Palis for area. Oh, okay, cool. I feel like a lot of my friends, I've actually been setting up my one, like, so my fiance has a friend that's like in L.A. And then a couple of my girlfriends are in L.A. So we've been like setting them up. So I feel like a friend like giving them plug is always good. Yeah, that's what I was hoping for is like, I need to start planting the seed of my friends.

You're like, let's get something going. So coming from like the big brother side of things. Are you, are you, like a risk taker? Risk taker and like career and like socially, but I don't know. I've never like really taken big risks in dating. So. Well, I'm just wondering, like, I think like from like being like out of the dating world for so long and what I would do. And I think this happened like, so I was married before and then got divorced. And I was like, you know what?

I don't care anymore. I'm going to ask out anybody. And if they say, no, the worst thing they're going to do. say no. And then like I think like as as I got you know more gray hair, um, I think, uh, I think like I just learned that like it didn't matter what people thought. And I'm just wondering if like if you put yourself in 10 years from now or whatever eight years from now, what would you tell yourself to do? And if you could put your like putting yourself out there might be like whatever sport used to play getting on another softball volleyball. What, you know,

beach volleyball. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Just finding. a way to meet more people. Yeah. And then you'll probably get set up somehow. Like you're saying. Okay. But that takes a risk. You know,

that's like that's putting yourself out there and being really uncomfortable. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I can talk to a brick wall. So I'm like, honestly,

maybe I can just do that. So. Yeah. Then you should just like go for it. Even if like you're out like at the bar or whatever, just like going up to like random guys. I feel like I remember me and my best friend like used to this is going to sound crazy when we were both like very, very single. We used to like make bets about like who could

talk to the most guys in one night. I kind of love it though. That's like crazy, but it was like so fun and we met so many people. Wait, I love it. That's a good idea. That's a good way to do. That's a fun game. I know, good way to spice it up. Yeah. Yeah, I think just opening yourself up to more and more people like, you know, it's so easy to get frustrated or uncomfortable or bummed out and whatnot. But I think when you put yourself out there, and regardless of what it is with your sports or volleyball or bars or whatever, you're going to meet some people and hopefully at least they'll make you laugh and have a good time. And best case scenario, you know, maybe meet somebody. Yeah, yeah, totally. I guess like people are like, oh, it happens organically and it just happens when it happens.

But like, at what point do you stop waiting for it to happen organically? and you're just like, I'm just going to go for it. Yeah, I think, like, I do believe, like, it happens when it's meant to happen. But I also think there that is, like, a huge part of it of putting yourself out there. Right. Yeah. I'm like you. I'm like, screw it.

Just go. I mean, I remember when it first hit me, I was in a park, I was in a parking garage in Seattle. And this is right after my ex and I split up. And I was like, she's cute. Screw it. And I went out, you know, it didn't end up being, like, we didn't date long, but we went on a handful of dates and it was super fun. I don't think it can hurt.

I mean, the worst thing somebody's going to say is like, nobody's going to say no to you unless they have a boyfriend or girlfriend, whatever. True, true. Yeah, makes sense. Why not? New mantra. Go for it. Just go for it.

Yeah. Heart rate DM. Yeah, honestly. Well, thank you so much, Finley, for coming on. It was great chatting with you. Yes, thanks for having me. Lots of love in the future. Hopefully, fingers crossed.

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Okay, guys, so we have Ava on now. Nice to meet you, Ava. Nice to meet you guys. Where do you live, Ava? I live in Berkeley. Did you graduate or still in school? I'm still in school, so I'm going to go into my junior year next year. Oh my gosh, so fun.

And are you dating? Are you single? It's complicated. Okay, so I am single, but I'm, I have been seeing the same guy for, it's been a little over like two months now. And you're recently technically exclusive. So whatever that means. Well, that's exciting.

Well, why is that complicated? I think we haven't really talked about what that means. And I don't think I don't think I want to be in. a relationship. Okay. And I've always thought that the term exclusive was like kind of stupid, honestly. But now that I'm in the situation, I can see why, because I always thought it was more of a cop-out.

Yeah. But now I'm the one who doesn't really want to be in a relationship. Do you think he has any clue? I don't know. But I also don't know if he would be interested in. and being in a committed relationship. Yeah. So, like, would you be upset?

Like, well, you're exclusive. So, like, you wouldn't want him to, like, date another girl, right? Exactly. So we basically, we didn't even use the word exclusive, but we were kind of joking about it all the time, like, just making jokes about not wanting each other to, like, see other people. Yeah. But then one day.

we actually like talked about it and we're like okay like it would make me really uncomfortable would make you uncomfortable if we were like intimate in any way at all with somebody else and that was kind of all we said um but it is interesting because it's the summer we're spending a lot of time together a lot of my roommates and friends are gone for the summer and i'm staying near school and he's also here so we're spending a lot of time together and um I think that complicates things too. Is it anything to do with is that, are you spending more time because it's convenient or because you actually really like him?

Obviously, you don't want to be exclusive, but is it just the convenience? I think it's more than convenience. I definitely like spending time with him. You know, we always have a good time together. It's just I really like my independence. and I've only been in one relationship in my life. I'm 20. And I feel like I'm just a busy girl. I have a lot of things going. I'm pretty ambitious. And so I kind of have a fear that having a boyfriend will like hold me back. I also tend to not really trust a lot when guys are telling me things. So I think having that exclusive label is easier than, um, allowing myself to jump into a full relationship.

Yeah, that makes, I feel like when you're in college, too, like you have so much going on and like so much you want to do. But I also do think, I think if it's like the person for sure, then it won't make those things harder, like in ways it can like help and make it easier too. So if you end up liking him a lot and you want to date and he's on the same page, I don't think there's any harm in that. I'm wondering, like, if you bounced out everything and if you're like, the reason I don't want to be

exclusive is because of my fear of whatever it is, rejection or trust or whatever it is, what if that wasn't, would you, if you didn't have that and it's probably hard to put yourself in that position, like, if you didn't have that fear, do you think you would jump in more or you still think you would want your freedom? That's a good question. I think it's nuanced. I think that if I'm in a relationship, I want it to be. like a serious relationship.

So I want to talk about deep things and really know the person and like love the person for who they are. And I think we currently are very shallow. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. But we've never, we've had like one or two more serious like talks just related to what was going on in our lives that we like felt we needed to share. but it's very shallow and I like I don't really know his friends or his family and I like to see the way people are with the people they love and like care about and so I don't think I could get into a relationship unless we actually started to get to know each other on a deeper level. Are you curious?

Yes and no. I think it feels easier to not try and think that too much. and just let it be fun. But it is something I've thought about. And like, especially with the summer, I want to continue seeing him for the whole summer. I think he does too. We've talked about, you know,

doing things for the rest of the summer. And I think it gets complicated when deciding to like end that and make it a fun summer flying. You know, we had a good time together. We respect each other and it mellows out. Or if we do want to consider, or something serious, like, how do we progress into that? So if you guys have advice on where to move.

How do you keep emotions out of that? Any time that I've spent time with people, like, I remember this, let's call her Jen in college, that we spent a ton of time together over like a few, a few month period, and we never had those serious conversations. And all of a sudden, like, somebody would say, hey, she's hanging out with John and another fraternity or anything. But after all this time, I started building up these feelings. and maybe I'm just like a mushy feeling guy,

but I'm just wondering like if you spend a whole summer, to me it just seems like either A, you know it's good or B, you're like, heck no. Like how do you prevent those feelings from happening? Don't they just happen? Am I just being dumb? I feel like they happen. I feel like they happen for me.

I feel like if you guys keep hanging out, I feel like it's just going to get deeper and deeper. And that's not bad either. Yeah, no. As long as he introduces you to his friends and family and people so you can get to know them. Do you think he knows that you want that? Yeah.

Or that you wouldn't jump into a relationship unless you knew more about him and his world? I don't think he knows that. I do know I've met a couple of his friends, but just very briefly. Yeah. And I am a pretty sensitive person, but I do tend to be very guarded when it comes to relationships. So I am very comfortable. comfortable talking to like my friends about how I feel. I'm very introspective. I write my thoughts a lot and I really overthink it. But when it comes to like telling a guy, I, a lot of times

just like leave it unsaid. And so I don't think he knows where I stand at all. But I also, he hasn't opened up to me about what he thinks at all. So it's such a weird thing being like through all this stuff because like the way I think about it is like I don't care. I guess my mentality, I think you'll get there at some point, hopefully, is like, if it works out, he'll accept me for what I want. And if it doesn't, and if he doesn't accept me, there's, I don't know, at least four and a half billion other dudes out there that might accept me. I'm just like, do you think it's worth asking or are you okay just kind of playing the summer as it is? I think it's worth asking. I think he might like me more than I like him.

Wow. And so I don't want to be the one to bring it up and then have him try and progress it quickly and me like kind of hold it back. Like I don't think I should be the one bringing it up. But also that's just my interpretation. He could not want anything. So I feel like you could like feel it out a little longer. And then at some point I have that conversation. Because also like, I mean, college is fun and it's good to have fun and like things and stuff.

But like you don't want to waste too much of your. time if you're not that into it and like also his but I need to like we need to have you back on and like get an update at the end of summer I would love to I would love to I feel like we want him on the show too I mean I'm seeing him later I can get his opinion get us does he know you were doing this yeah I told him about it this is a great way to bring up the conversation this is awesome just save it I didn't tell him what it was about out. Oh, you could say this older dude who'd been through this stuff has all these questions

and put, pin it on me for why you're asking these questions. Yes. Perfect. Don't blame on Daisy. She's too sweet. Blame it on the old guy. Okay, sounds good. You can take all the blame.

Totally. You can hit me up on Instagram and yell at me all he wants and I'll want to have an answer. How do you think I should approach, like, talking about a sort of like, what are we conversation or like where do we see this going? Well, I think it's almost the same thing. Like, you could be like, if I'm you, I'm almost like, okay, I was on this podcast today and these two people have been to dating and you may have seen date. I'm just too old.

You wouldn't have seen me. But you would have seen The Bachelor and like they brought up something really interesting that I hadn't even thought about before. So I think it's almost like you're blaming us for everything. Like I hadn't even thought about this because we're having so much fun. Blah, blah, blah, blah. We're having so much fun. But you know what?

It's crazy. What do you think? Maybe with less emphasis on the syllables, but like a little more chill. But yeah, I think it just sparked a spark the thought on you, sparked some thoughts in you. I think that's good.

I think what I've kind of been planting seeds in his head is that my three best friends are going through their own sort of situations, all completely different. and so we will talk about that and he's also like met their situation ships and um so when we talk about their situation ships I get a little bit in his head about what he thinks about the way they're going about things but that might be a little toxic of me I don't know no I mean but I think if you could be I think that's probably better than my idea but I think if you're just almost like, God, whatever your friend name is, Jenny is going through all this stuff.

Like, what do you think? Like, I almost like the idea of asking more questions versus like, not like the type of questions, like, can we get more exclusive or not exclusive? Almost like, what do you think about this stuff? Because then he'll innately, if you can get him opening up about one or two things, he'll probably open up about more things once it gets more comfortable. Yeah, totally. Well, Ava, we're going to have to have you on back at the end of summer.

for a recap. But thank you so much that. And we're going to have to fill us in on how this is all on apples. I will. Thank you guys for having me on. And before I have to say, Daisy, I am like a huge fan. I love The Bachelor and I love you in your season. So I'm fan growing a little bit.

I'm trying to keep it in. Well, thank you so much for coming on. It was great to meet you. It was so great meeting you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart.

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We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Okay, Georgia. So where are you from? Where do you go to school? Are you still in school? Yes, I'm actually about to go take my last final ever of college. Oh, congrats. Yeah. Where are you at school?

I'm at Cal Poly in, um, San Luis Visco. Oh, awesome. Yeah. So I know this is like you guys are, this is like the situation ship episode, right? So are you dating someone? Are you seeing anyone? So I just actually on Friday said bye to a guy I was talking to in the grade below me actually. So I'm graduating. He left school a few weeks early to go to an internship in New York City. Um, So that was like brought up in the first conversation we had when we met earlier this year. He was like, oh, yeah. Like, you know, and then this summer I have this internship in New York City and I'm going to leave school a little early.

But that was like, that seemed so far in the future that like I didn't think about it. And then it just like got really serious, really fast. And then all of a sudden, like on Friday, like saying bye, it was just like so drama. And like it was like seemed like the biggest deal ever. and like obviously coping with it super fresh but um i think that that was this like kind of a unique situation in the scheme of like the situation chips i've have had so was it like were you like by like we're done talking we're not going to see each other or was it like yeah because just i'm going and moving to san francisco he's going to come back here to school we both actually like

this was one of like the first kind of like bigger conversations we had. We just knew that like we weren't long distance people like we both have done long distance relationships before. And I think it was like mature of us both to recognize like I he's this is what he said like it brought out he was like it brought out parts of me that like I didn't really like like it brought out like jealousy and like I was starting to become like controlling over my long distance girlfriend and like I didn't like that side of me. And like, I know that like jealousy would totally also come into play. Like I'm at my new nine to five job. And like I'm checking his location like, oh, he's at the bars, like at my college bars.

Like I just knew like that wasn't going to be good for my mental. So that's really mature just to even realize like put that in the words. Because most people would just jump into it, you know, long distance relationships and be like, yeah, we'll figure it out. Right. But to know your tendencies, that's, that's pretty cool that you guys both are realizing that. Yeah. No, I was happy that he was able to like, we were able to both kind of agree on that because like for as good as it was like they were genuinely like I think it was it was like around a six month situation. So we didn't really get to the point where we like could discover like the like bad parts yet. So all like in all was like so positive. Like I genuinely don't really have bad things to say about it. But I think that like this is what we actually said on Friday when we're saying bye. we're like, this is like great. It's ending this way instead of like letting, you know, if we were to do long distance and like try it, like we kind of know these bad things would get in the way.

Yeah, for sure. And I feel like also too, like you ending like college and stuff and like going into like a job and like stuff like that. And then him still being at college, like I feel like it will be a good like separation. And then you never know. like maybe in the future, you know what I mean? But I also don't wait on it. Like, you should go to you. Totally. Yeah. I am hoping like, yeah, like we never know and like never say never.

But I'm, I think like I'm excited. Like it doesn't make me any less excited to like go start my new era too. Like it's totally sad. Oh, for sure. It sounds, I mean, it's not like like I really think it's super mature. But is there any part of you that it's like what if? Oh, for sure. Like I really liked this guy.

Like he was like especially like because I will say like my prior situation ships like my friends and I would almost like laugh at how night and day it was. Like he like checked boxes like I didn't even know existed for me. Like he was great. He truly was. So I think that there is a part of me that's like, oh my God. Like of course like this one time like you know, I meet this guy and like he's like checking all these. boxes that like i've always wanted like of course i like like especially this week and like with him being gone i think it's like now when like five days like like yeah i'm like playing that over in my

head like what if we just like tried and we we we established like we weren't going to go no contact like in a weird way like that's just been almost harder because yeah um but yeah i definitely have those what ifs for sure yeah i totally get it and like and i do think you guys are and the mature thing, but there's also no right or wrong, right? There are people that figure this stuff out. And if you were the one to say, like, after a month or two and you're like, you know what, I'm kind of curious. Like, don't beat yourself up because there's no rule. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like this whole, like, there's no, especially in dating, you're talking to people when on TV. Like, there's no black or white. Like, I think dating is mostly in the gray. It's like,

how you meet somebody where you do with them. if it's worth it, if it's not worth it, and, you know, usually it doesn't work out, right? Like, you know, what, 95% of the time it's not going to work out? But what if this one is the possibility? I would keep yourself open to everything. Totally. And don't ignore those feelings. Like, like, if they're real feelings, you know, don't, I wouldn't say ignore them.

I'm not saying, like, stock him down again. But I would bet that he would be having similar feelings. Yeah. That's like, yeah, definitely puts that idea in my head. I think there's kind of like this epidemic right now of like, like, chill girl syndrome where like I want to act like I don't care and like I'm not thinking about it like if I am. And like I want him to be the one to bring it up. I think that's like every girl's mentality. But no, you're totally right.

Like I think that like there is no playbook and it's like I don't have to listen to that. I think guys are just as scared as girl. I mean, granted, there are people that they're in college and. They're like, I just want to date and play the field. Like, and there's a time in life that for that, but it doesn't last forever. Like, if he's gotten through that or you've gotten through that and you're looking for something different, like it, again, I would just realize that it may work out still and that's cool. And it may not work out and that's okay.

But be open to anything. Yeah, definitely. Don't close off your feelings. I would say that too, because you never know how it's going to end up. like if you don't like give something 110% like yeah my older sister always told me that but also like like live your life too but if you still have those feelings like there's no reason why you guys can't reconnect yeah yeah um I know that's that's like you guys are getting my wheels turning now well we don't want to I don't want to flip you by any means but but what you want to do but like

I think starting off how mature you were just knowing that and if you stick with that like Like, hey, like, let's say you decided to try it again. And all of a sudden, like, these weird feelings are coming up. And it's, like, destroying you. Like, I have a friend who went through the same thing and he was dating this girl, you know, five hours away. And all of a sudden, it was destroying him. And she was doing things that shouldn't have been doing.

But she just didn't get out of her system yet. And then six months later, she was ready to be more serious because she finally got to that point. Yeah. So, yeah, live your life. I feel like no matter what, it's going to work out the way. it was supposed to, but thank you so much for coming on. You were so sweet. Oh, wait, same to you guys. Hits, millions of records sold, sold out tours. You think that Jonas brothers are satisfied?

Nope, it's podcast time. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Hey, Jonas is available now, and their first guest is a big one. Paul Rudd. You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition at the office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

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