50 Cent on Diddy’s Life In Prison, Eminem, & Street Fighter Reaction
00:00 What's up everybody? Welcome to Flake. Our guest today has the deeply annoying habit of being good at everything that he does, music dominated, business made of fortune, television built an empire, throwing out the first pitch of the Mets game. Terrible. Okay, maybe not everything. That was the worst. It might have been. The point is the guy has 14 different dream careers. He still finds time to wake up every morning, go on Instagram and ruin somebody's day, calling him success. At this point would be an insult. He's inevitable. Ladies and gentlemen, the Thanos of the entertainment industry, ballrogan street fighter out October 16th. We got Curtis, 50-cent Jackson, Benford-Bah! Let's go.
00:45 Yo, man, I wanted to congratulate you for being COVID, man. I want to hear, man. You know, I was late. Rappers are late to everything and shit, right? You know, he just had COVID. Like, like, like, a week, two weeks ago, bro. Really? That's late, late.
01:00 Lately, right? Everybody's dead from the shit already. You're going to bring it back around. How did you get COVID? I don't know. I thought that was for population control, to be honest. Yeah. Now we're talking.
01:14 Now we're talking. Disease comes into play in and attacks people with existing illnesses and like elderly people. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have strong immune system. That don't seem a little perfect. You got a random fucking You're on too many YouTube videos
01:33 It's an interesting It's a population Bro, population There's too many fucking people in the world Man That's what happens When you're in the house For a week with COVID
01:41 You start watching YouTube videos I can't go like this I ain't supposed to go out Over no shit like this You think you were gonna die Or you were good No I was I was sick sick though I don't understand
01:51 You know you just get cold and shit Yeah You know like I'm like I thought the flu. Damn. Bro, first of all, I just want to say I saw the watch poking out
02:03 from the sleeve and I want to know if that's my watch. Just no, I have a watch for you. Okay. It's very nice. And I'm going to give it to you regard whether you want it or not. People don't believe in that story when I tell them that. That's the craziest story.
02:15 Yeah, but that is a true story. Can you tell it again? Okay, look, I am not a clumsy person, right? I am not. So I get to, I come, the first day, I make it to Australia. everybody is already there the cast has been acquainted already
02:29 they already communicated with the director and they're in a comfortable place we sit we have dinner we're talking and I just I go yeah and turn and Andrew look it was I sat next to him because I'm more
02:43 comfortable and I don't know these people from nowhere and other actors and shit like that so I just go let me just be be where I'm comfortable I know I'm home or at least I know this person then the other thing I'm like yo I spill the water on them And I'm like, what the fuck?
03:00 And this is in front of all of these new people. This is shit people do to agitate me for real. Like, I'm like, yo, no. And he's like, it's all right. It's all right. It's all right. I'm like, no. Like, here, take this.
03:13 Because everybody stopped laughing when I said that shit, too. Right? My mom's like, oh, oh, shit, oh, shit. I'm like, yo, yeah, no, I take this. I want you to have this because I did that. That was a mistake. Don't give me that one. Because I'm not making the same mistake twice.
03:27 Yeah. Now, this is very, very, very nice. I have a very, very nice one for you. Yeah. I got a position this so you can spill it on me, too. No, that was, you. I would not mind getting some water out. But that, you know, I wanted to give it to him.
03:43 You know, for me, a lot of the stuff that I'd be doing, it just be, look, I just have to want to do it. Like, because I don't, I don't even, like, I miss going to, like, Like going out, like going to do shit. I didn't do nothing all year. Wait, why? I just was working. But you're always working.
04:03 You've been working for a lot of years. I just didn't stop to just go do something randomly. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because then I'm usually weird everybody's going to have fun and party shit like that too. So I'm in those environments, but I never went like all year. I didn't do nothing. Because I have a lot of the things that did I want it.
04:24 Yeah. And now it's like, okay, kind of used to that shit. Like, my cars collect exotic dusts. Like, the dust is exotic. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm walking past them shit every day, bro. Yeah, shit right there in the back of the truck, boom. And I'm riding around the city.
04:41 The money's in the back of the SUV in New York. Yeah. It is not flash. It's not being shown. Nobody's driving a Lamborghini in New York City. No, no. Pointless. It's a recreational day in the middle of everything else that's going on.
04:53 And it's just not the way. York City culture. What's the most pointless shit you bought? Like, it seems like you're communicating at this, at this point. It's like, you've had the money, you've had the success, and you realize that most of it is just frivolous nonsense that you wasted.
05:08 Shit for your yard. That's what it is. Yes. I'm on Pinterest. I'm on Pinterest. I'm on landscaping. Special trees. Why does this guy's got a fucking garden? It looks like somebody Disney did it. Like that.
05:23 I want to walk around shit. that when there's nothing to do. Like, it just, make it oddly cool. Right? And then you go, and it is like a one-time spin. You get the right gardener in there, the guys is in there to plant it. And then it grows on its own for us. Yeah. And it's
05:39 there. Yeah. So that's a big money shit, because you know names of trees and shit like that one. He's on out of here. He's got a nice staple. It's weird. You do get it. And you know, the Giants of Private Trees and shit like that. Yeah. But that's the whole process. Evergreen, you know what I mean? Because you need that block. You need it to open up.
05:57 You can't see nothing in there, man. That shit turned into one wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One wall, I mean, old trees down there. But it's weirdly expensive. You try to go buy a tree and they're like, oh, yeah, it's a $10,000 tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, some of the Asian trees and shit like that.
06:10 I got two, like, sleeping willows. Yeah. They look nice. No, the ugly trees, but they look nice. They, they, the ugly trees, but they're expensive, bro. Yeah. So when they, I saw how much it cost, I said, oh, keep it. Yeah.
06:24 That was like the thing the shit in Mike's and Mike's crib. Like you had these awnings around the house. The weep and willow. Yeah, he had these things. Yeah, it looked like the trees like cleaning over and shit. Oh, we have a special delivery, by the way. This is how you cure COVID right here. Yeah.
06:42 This is the cure. I feel like we're celebrating. We are celebrating. Can I ask you one more question about this watch? Yes. The watch that you had offered him. Yeah. I don't want to, you know, money.
06:52 Sometimes you talk about money. It's a little bit. It can be ugly. It's a little ugly. But if you had to estimate, how many zeros are on the end of the price of that watch? Like, is it a pretty expensive watch? Yeah, that was, it's about $45,000. But then you just iced the whole thing out?
07:08 Yeah, no, it was the diamonds all over the Rolex one. Yeah, the one that he tried to give you. Is there a point where you, it's like everybody knows you have it, so you just wear fake shit? No, no, no, no, no. You can't do it? No, look. How would you wear a fan? All of the shit, but all of this shit is in short.
07:26 Right. Right. Yeah. And they kind of, you know, like, if anything happens, things go missing. Yeah. People are running, you know. You're laughing, buddy. Why is that so scary when you say that?
07:38 Some of these guys, the demons are stronger than them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And, you know, like, and I don't get mad. Like, I look at, when I can't find something, I go, yo, whatever, when that ring? Was that, like, a chain was missing? And I'm like, what the fuck does the chain in at, bro? Nah, somebody's over me?
07:54 I know I didn't. I thought I probably left it in Houston or one of the other spots because I do be taking the shit off and just leaving the shit. You know, like I didn't even have jury on today. I was suited and walking around. You were very professional. Yeah. You were salmon pants.
08:08 Yeah, you know, I am confident when I wear salmon pants. Bro, it had the blue stripes in it. The master blue jacket. Yeah. Tie everything for you. I'm sure you I do it. They say all they want to say about their clothes Like you know what I'm saying?
08:27 I'm saying? I think the fashion piece is the first piece, bro. What you mean? Like, look, when you saw hustling, the first thing that changes is your sneakers. Yep. Snickers. Oh, interesting.
08:37 The shoes. And then they start the outfits, right? And then like even for male children, you can tell when their nuts is falling and they start getting in the fragrances. Like, because the compliment of, Oh, you smell good. They're like, oh, they want that.
08:54 Yes, that energy from people telling them that, and it's like, okay, like, they felt one step closer to this, bossy. This is what happened. Like, it does that's what it's doing? But when does nail polish come in? No, what about nail polish? That's right. Final boss level. That's like kingpin.
09:10 Listen, the nail polish thing. They're a little ways to get here. Artists, the thing. It's like the person that's, they're not in the style. They're a fucking stylist. That's that. The person that is crazy about it and all this shit
09:25 in their own intricate way they figure out to do that because I'm like, yo, bro, I have never had a desire to put grindstones on my fucking nails, bro. What makes you do that?
09:37 You gotta clean them, though. You gotta fucking bagging up last thing. You know how old I am? You know what I was fucking me? You know what I was going to fuck with me? You're just going to die. I scratch my head, okay? I'm very, you know what
09:51 I respect that This guy's crazy You try somebody else You don't try me What the fuck I would never I was not cool with the nail polish shit I was acting cool because it was all right
10:06 I was on the show Andrew I was being cool with you man God damn it I know it was something cool about him Yeah He got that He's from Queens
10:16 Yeah That's what Yeah He got Far Rock beach community far rock too what part my dad yeah
10:23 shit yeah come on he know everything he's like thinking he remembers he's involved to know because the shit is around you if you're not paying attention you're gonna get
10:31 ate up by it you know right he did he got pushed off I should be happening so you know you gotta you gotta paint your nails you gotta change I ain't involved
10:41 I know that I'm a little I'm a politician a politician bitch I ain't do nothing That's gonna get you out of trouble I don't know thought I was a gang, man
10:53 Look at this What the fuck? What the fuck kind of game You thought I was with? Are you still a little bit mad Because Tony Yeo and Uncle Murder We're calling you out? Can we bring out and Tony?
11:04 Can we bust out there? Yeah, you know about that something wrong with him. It is. Yeah, it looks you know. Fab is better than Banks. You know what Banks would say? You got your nails painted.
11:13 You can't give an opportunity. You know what you're saying? He thinks that Eminem's over here. He was talking crazy. Show, look at showing the nails. Show em. Show him. Oh, okay.
11:22 Man, man. You're gonna take his opinion there, man. We're gonna dody party, niggas gonna be dancing. Nah. Nah, I didn't, but I wish I did. What are you gonna talk about in the park?
11:37 I can talk about you. I can talk about you. Liggins like you. With painted nails and opinions. Go, quick the thing. That shit stuck for like a year. Yeah, listen, don't mind him, because he's like, you know, when special light kids make it to television.
11:55 You know, shit happens. Like, that thing is crazy, bro. The shit that he says out of his mouth. It's nuts, man. I cringe someone out of the shit that he starts. How do you feel about them doing the pod, though? I'm supportive of whatever they do. But I'm like, what are you going to, like, I was like, what you were saying?
12:10 Like, what are you going to talk about? Like, what are you going to do? Yeah. And, you know, he got an interesting insight on culture, like hip-hop. Yeah. So he got, because he is a student of it and been around. You're good. You're good.
12:24 Okay. And been around the music and paid attention to it early on because before being a solo artist, he was in a group with rough hands, like with a DJ. So he knows everybody else's records. Yeah. From that period. Yeah. No, you can tell he loves the game.
12:42 Yeah, yeah. And he's been with you forever. So he's a loyal guy, too. Hell yeah. he'll go to whatever, but he says crazy shit. And I'm like, what the fuck you say that for, boy?
12:54 Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, it's nice because you never say anything crazy or controversial. Yeah, not like that. Because when I'm talking about this shit, I'm talking about, like, everything that, like, I don't care about what these people say. Yeah. He'll tell you what the fuck, what you did.
13:09 Shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm telling him? What the fuck? You tell him what happened for? You're singing telecastle. You know, you're fucking crazy. He'll shoot you.
13:20 He's shocked this one. What? That's like, that's for the druid artist. These guys are crazy. Like, their kids, they come up. They haven't had an opportunity to have like a lot of experiences. So they use the actual experiences that they just did. You see what I'm saying?
13:40 It just happened. Writing about his, there ain't no statute of limitations on that. That's just still sitting at. Bro, we didn't congratulate you, by the way, on your Emmy, man. Oh, yeah. When people don't like me. Yeah. He do nice things for me.
13:55 Really? Yeah, Jay, Z didn't like me. They didn't want me at the Super Bowl. I got an Emmy. What if you don't like me? Got an Emmy? I keep getting Emmys. Yeah.
14:06 Who don't like me now? I'm looking for who? Because I'll just fuck up. And I'll get an Emmy. I'll get me my next Emmy. It's a documentary. worse than a disc track. I think when you
14:18 have that much shit in your closet is worse. Because, you know, like, it's not none of this shit top secret, bro. It is like common knowledge under the radar. Oh, it was kind of industry knows. Everybody knows. Yeah. Yeah.
14:34 And, you know, even Cat Williams was saying, yo, you got to tell him, no. Like, do you want a party? Like, you want a party. Like, yeah. And I'm like, why you want to demand in there that much? Yeah. It's important. that you there.
14:46 Are you, I mean, he's getting out soon. Are you concerned? No, I have shooters. Paya, bitch. You thought it was just you. You thought you were the only one. Okay.
15:00 Okay. Okay. Why are you going to be comfortably on this bullshit this long? Come on, bro. Once again, most important date drop, October 16th, Friday,
15:14 Street Fighter is in theaters around the world. Let's blow this shit out. We're watching as a family. You're taking your parents. You're taking your kids. We're all going out. And we are indulging, okay? We are indulging in this absolute chaos, madness, poetry, resilience, brotherhood.
15:35 And humor. Also, October 23rd, 24th, I'm going to be in Indianapolis doing stand-up. November 6th and 7th. I'm going to be in Birmingham, Alabama, doing stand-up. end up November 13 and 14th. I'll be in Cleveland. I think that's sold out. December 4th and 5th will be in Raleigh. I think that's sold out. December 11 to 12th, I'll be in Columbus. There might be tickets available at Deirdre Shultz.com for all of those dates. Great news. I'm going to be on the road as well, not only doing some shows,
16:03 but Shultzzi, but I'll be headlining my own shows in Chandler, Arizona, at the Ice House in Pasadena, at Mike Drop in San Diego, California, and then of course Detroit and Salt Lake City in the New Year. I would love for you guys to come on out. Thank you so much. Alex. The scariest thing is Halloween might be the front room. October 29th, cancel comedy takes over Chelsea Table and Stage. We have a happy hour at five, the comedy show at seven, and the afterparty at nine. One ticket gets you access to everything. Presale is live now. Bring your costumes. He seems to be enjoying himself in jail, though. Like, is that a normal thing?
16:40 You know, he's not the kind of guy that would, you know, I don't. I don't. I would have been filed bankruptcy. What do you mean? Like, I would immediately have filed bankruptcy after paying Cassie. So it sent the signal that the money was not just there. Oh, because once people get paid, everybody else wants to get paid. Yes, and they want the maximum amount. If they're watching her just pull $30 million off,
17:02 he even thought, Niggis is looking at it like he just paid that like that, that quick. So if it's that easy, then there's plenty more there. That's the message that you said. Even handling the lawsuits is probably expensive. That's what made them attorneys just drop him. He just won the ability to move forward on the lawsuit that he had against the New York Times. Oh. The Daily News or something like that.
17:26 Okay. And that's why I was like, why they drop him? Because it's the same law firm, but then they got 60 other sexual assault claims on him. So for two years old, 60 other sexual assault claims, at $150,000, that's. about $9 million. So it doesn't matter what you're going to get from the Daily News.
17:47 No, you're going, what the fuck you mean? The bill is $9 million for your other cases. Because those, you've got to respond to the cases. You got to respond to the courts. Yeah.
17:59 But you don't think he got it? You don't think he got it? Like, I feel like he got it. Okay. Let's see how long you've been saying that shit. Let's see how long you'd be saying that shit. When you go, when you go,
18:13 Of course you overestimate how much is actually Liquid. Yes. Yeah, you might have to sell some things to... And a lot of stuff, lifestyle, you might be spending that kind of money per year because the IRS is coming in anyway. You got to do lifestyle shit, right?
18:27 So you got to spend it so you don't have to pay taxes on it. Right. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, it's, I mean, when I was seeing the shit that he was doing in jail... He didn't want to pay people, though. Say what? You imagine you want to pay the people.
18:41 Oh, some of the people around. The theme of them not getting paid around? Yeah, that was true. What's that? Not, like, people that were working for them. Yeah, they were like... Pained them. What the fucking not paying the people?
18:51 This is moving forward. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, I've heard stories like that. Yeah. How common is it to get a massage in jail? Very uncommon. Like, even...
19:02 Fucking step on your back, shit. Like, oh, what is your back? Broken? So, fucking, I've got to be... I got to have a broken back. To be asking a knee. could have come step all my back. That's probably what was creating the fucking fights, right?
19:17 I step on your back. He feels intensely closer to you now. You're a fool. I work on your body. I work on your body, huh? The news reports say he's getting money and he's paying people every single months to get, like, massages, get food,
19:30 you got enough money to do that. But there got to be a guy like... You got to understand that under those circumstances that people around have money, bro. Not everybody in that type of facility. This is a federal facility. They don't Oh
19:44 At a Fed facility You got like white-collar crime People haven't paid taxes So you got somebody massaging for love Of the game That's it They're insages for love That's their passion
19:55 You understand They want to lick your back You understand This shit is different bro Who fuck's offering the massage You know You know Those things got
20:05 Kool-A packets on their lips And shit You know There's a different thing going on there Bro Trust me And apparently he's got an Instagram. That's what they said.
20:14 He's got an anonymous Instagram that he's... The rumor is that he watched the doc. That's the rumor. Yeah, yeah, they said that. But who hasn't watched it? You know, I mean... Somehow you became more dangerous as you got entrenched in Hollywood. No, that, look, I went into, when I was looking, like, I had that...
20:30 In development, I had it in development. Six months before I met Alex. Like, I had met Alex and worked out or something else with her. But six months before, I brought it to her. for her to actually be the head and the showrunner on it. Yeah. And when she got to it, she was the right person for that. Like, she built it out with not, it wasn't biased.
20:53 You know what I'm saying? Like you want to tell the story, not, you know, make a hit piece. Yeah. How'd you get the cameraman that was following him around? Because, like, that was... Bam. So, like, how close to the release of the doc did you get that? Because it seemed like that was very recent.
21:11 Yeah. I'd be catching a day. That was like right, like, days before he got picked up. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's a plan himself. Like, people don't realize that he was, he's a reality stock.
21:26 Mm-hmm. Like, he's done making the band and these other shows they prop him up as far as the visibility. Yeah. Yeah. And he was already on that. Was there anything you didn't include in the dock out of fear of getting sued, or maybe you couldn't substantiate it and it was just kind of like a rumor you heard but you were like, nah, we can't put it in.
21:46 Oh, a whole bunch of stuff. It's worse than the doc. Like a lot of the stuff that people were saying that you didn't put into it because Because then you're liable and have some sort of something. Journalistic. Yeah. And then there's a... What were some of those rumors?
22:06 Let's just call. You don't get yourself in trouble. You should act for like shit. Like cooler. I like baby mother shit. I've been on that for a year ahead of that happening. Where what? But the baby mother was over there freaking off and shit like that.
22:23 Who? What, puff. Oh, yours? Yeah, the Jane Doe. Oh. While that's there, like, you know, that's not, this is a woman I haven't kissed in the mouth in 12 years. 13 years, my son's 14.
22:37 Yeah, yeah. So when that's happening, like, and they want to count, oh, it's 50s baby mother. So what? That's Jason Duralo's X. That's this. Don't put that on me. You know what I mean?
22:49 Names would be uncalled in that. Like, she fucked with a whole lot of, I don't want to say it. But, you know, because didn't they look at the tape? And my son see me saying it instead of everybody else saying. Yeah, yeah. And they're trying to attach to you because you're the biggest person. Yeah, yeah. And then because we actually was arguing.
23:06 So it looks like, you know, my perfect got a habit of, dealing with people that had previously dealt with somebody. Like, he gets a gratification out of... He likes to get behind somebody. It's a close thing. It's confirmation of you, because this person is enamored by you and they used to be with somebody else.
23:24 What is that? I'm not going to say just only rappers do it, but it is, it seems like in the rap community, a lot of people do that. Yeah, why is that? I fuck your bitch. Yeah. Is it just so you could say that? I fucked your bitch. I don't know if that's just the motivation, but they are excited by
23:37 women that have been around someone else. Because it validates them. Yeah. Like if this girl chooses me and she shows that person. Right. And she's excited because look, these house, they be excited. These bitches be wanting to play house. Be playing house with me.
23:53 Oh, you know you've been all over the place. You're all over the place. Just be all over the place. Don't come playing house. They're acting different. Like, you got a moral compass or a base and you don't just do what you've fucking been doing. Yeah.
24:06 You know? But are the dudes doing it because they want that notch in their belt or they just want to have something over the other dude. Well, for me, personally, it's not a notch. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, some of them have this special skill set. Like that boy, with Nielsen. Who's Nielsen?
24:22 When you kidnap the kid, he says, I got this special skill set. Oh, Liam. Liam. He said, that motherfucker. Yeah. You know that hoover. Yeah. That motherfucker suck your socks off with your shoes on.
24:38 It's different when you ain't got a pusher. Yeah. Okay, speaking of movies, though, people don't believe me sometimes when I say that you didn't eat for a month for Street Fighter. Oh, yeah. No, I was, it was very little. And it was like eating for fuel instead of pleasure. But my understanding was you were doing liquid diet for like a month.
24:57 Yeah, I've been able to do that since I got shot. That's how you learned it when you were. No, no. I went through six weeks. Oh, no food? No food. Wow. And I had to take, like, inshaws and stuff like that.
25:10 still have the right nutrition. Wow. But I can go on the quiz, especially if I'm doing like intense cardio stuff like that because that suppresses my appetite. Yeah. You know, people are all kind of shit out there that can help you now. But, you know, I just been doing it that the way I did it.
25:28 Yeah. The old-fashioned way. But was it weird being in one place and having nothing to do for the first time? Yeah, but that was great. Like, I found it like I was on vacation. Yeah. Because I'm moving around so much and shit Like when I'm in one spot
25:42 And I'm in 30 days And the gym part is like That's lifestyle for me too What were you doing? Would you leave the hotel? Would you just go for walks? Like you have to be a regular human being For the first time since you were probably
25:54 15 years old Look at this. I don't go out I didn't go anywhere a lot while we was there too I was like because of Australia See I always be feeling like If you pay to see me You shouldn't see me for free
26:05 Oh so you're trying to like remove yourself. From everything, all those things. Wait a minute, do you think that that... Okay, that's interesting. So that's like the old school celebrity thing, right? Where like back in the day when we were growing up, you would only get to see George Clooney or some shit in a movie.
26:21 Right? Like, and then with Instagram, social media, now you're kind of inundated with celebrities. You can see more of their lifestyle. But do you think that's bad that we see it so much? Does that make us less likely to go to the theater? You know, yes, well, to a point, slightly. Like, if you ask certain things, like if you say,
26:38 well, what kind of car does anybody like, when they focus on that area, it means they really haven't made it that much. What you mean? Those things. Like when they focus on like the expensive stuff that you're all. Yeah, cars and shit like that. And like being seen. Yeah, but when you, like for the most part, you know,
26:59 the bigger celebrities, you say, what kind of car do they drop? That's a good question because you don't even know. Because they would be, when you see them, they're getting out of, the back of a black SUV. You know what I'm saying? And then it takes when they're on leisure time, they'll pop out with what they were, what they like. Like, I don't need everything.
27:21 I need the shit that I like out of the cool stuff that came out. You know what I'm saying? Like I pick. I don't say, I'm going to get every car, like every one of these sheds because I'm not going to do nothing but walk past the motherfuckers. Yeah. Until they get older. I just, I know now not to sell them back.
27:36 Why? What's that shit? Because like my Monsi Lago, I sold it back. And because it got older to me in the car. It didn't mean anything to me. I was like, cars, a car. At least that one, you get in it, and it drives when you're trying to keep.
27:49 Right. The other ones, these shit's got feelings. Like the Ferraris and they don't like that? You got to pet this motherfucker. Yeah. Ferrari got a thing where you got to plug it up on the wall, even though it's a gas car. And I'm like, what the fuck is this, man?
28:04 You get into a Honda. The shit starts when you got this motherfucker. Yeah, 500,000 more than the Honda. Yeah. And this shit won't start when you get ready to go. Yeah. He goes, what? A couple of times I went to the Ferrari ride, the 488, 88.
28:20 Hmm. The 488. 480? Yeah, it's like a spider? Yeah. It was the spider first, and then it changed it. Okay. And what happened with it?
28:32 And that shit just was not going outside. I was voting to go for a ride, but it was not going anywhere. Yeah. She was like, no, I don't feel like it. Yeah, that's right here, 48. Wow. You drop a couple hundred thousand dollars in a car, get into it, and it doesn't start. It's better fucking turn on.
28:46 That's just like five and change. Wow. So you're like, I heard a rumor that many years ago you got paid in Bitcoin for a show. Is this true? No, I got paid in Bitcoin. In like 2014 or something like that. Yeah, like for a project. Like one of the projects, I was accepting Bitcoin too.
29:07 And it never really was like, I was like, yo, yeah, I do it. And then just thinking a different shit to do. And that was a different way to involve people. And get the engagement. Then later, I was like, oh shit, I didn't know that.
29:23 You just forgot about all that. Yeah, because it was, I'm counting the money that came back from these. Not the fucking, the Bitcoin was in somewhere else, and it got lost in the shuffle with me, and then later it popped up. They reported there was 700 Bitcoin. Yeah, yeah.
29:38 It was, bro, I'm 50 cent. You know, I try to stay as grounded as cool. As grounded as possible so I can sustain cool. Right. Because if you're not, like, I think that shit gets you head and then you start, you know, you're on it. You've been in the bubble. Yeah. Yeah.
29:58 You know what I mean? That shit, you can't function like that. You just got to be. Well, how do you, I mean, like, you're in a bubble, but how do you make, how do you make, sure that you're not. Like, yeah, like, it's still. You've been famous for fucking 30 years,
30:13 but having an understanding of what it's going to click and go off right away. It was not like, like I'll go, if I'm going to do something in gaming, yeah, I'll take Cilo and take it into casinos. Yeah, I saw that. But culturally, even if you're not a hardcore gambler, you've learned the game already. Yeah, yeah. Because it's a part of the East Coast culture, like just, just life here. At some point you come across it. I'm surprised no one has done there yet.
30:37 This is the head crack? Yep. Oh, that's what they're... Oh, shit, okay. Yeah. To the casinos. Yeah. Who's that with you?
30:45 That's Florida. That's my way. Oh. Oh. You can roll four, five, six. Let's go. He won't of the sleepers. They sleep on it because the music game, like,
30:55 like gangster shit, but it's top 40 crossover. Oh, he has insane hits. I talk about Florado all the time. I'm from Florida, so I tout him as like, you need to look at the catalog. No, it's no joke. Like, it's really... And then when you travel,
31:07 internationally. You hear it? Yes. I'm like, yo, this shit. And he got like the Celsius money, I'm pretty sure.
31:14 Yeah, he like, he's sorry. No, no, he cares for him. He's, look, I got stuck in Miami, right?
31:21 And the hard rock, I was doing some shit at Tampa. And then I'm trying to take off. This is, it was, Trump had did something and fucked up all the flights.
31:32 Okay. And then I'm like, yo, I'm, what the fuck? I'm stuck in Florida. And I'm, I'm like, yo, he's like,
31:39 he'd tell him, he could take my plane, and I was like, your plane. Wait, this thing is that a plane? I'm like, how much money this nigga got? Because I got a lot of money. I just didn't decide to buy a fucking plane.
31:54 So I'm like this, I'm like, the process of, like, you buy the maintenance and then you're putting it back for somebody else to do it. I just do what someone else does. Yeah, yeah. That gets your plane when you, like, you buy it.
32:07 It's cool. I'll take it and use it when I get ready to use it. You handle the responsibilities of it. So I don't have to think about a fucking plane. Yeah. And I hang up. I look at the boats, they're like big holes in the water. You just dump money.
32:18 Money never returns. It never comes back. Yeah, that shit just goes out. And then I'm like, so I'm like, because I just don't have boat time. If like Miami's different, they go, they go around and do little parties and shit on the boat. But that's like a second home. Yeah. Where you could just take people out on the boat and shit.
32:36 Yeah. They did you guess. So did you take his plane? Yeah, no, I ended up, yeah, I ended up, yeah. I flew back on his plane to get back. So he got you with the ride back? Yeah, well, everybody was stuck. So he had to, he had the turn on the, already on the runway over there, so I flew back on here.
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34:52 built. Tulsa King. New season streaming October 16th, only on Paramount Plus. Another rumor about Street Fighter. Well, it's not a rumor, it's true. It's just the getting the unreleased. two box song.
35:05 Yeah, yeah. Was that... What's that one? Was that you? That was not a rumor. It was real. It was real. Cale's in it.
35:12 Yeah, and they had looked into it and it got it. And it was a song, his original ambition, Ezerada, his version, he wrote it for Mike. As a walkout song. Wow. So he wrote the song for Mike Tyson. Get out of it. Like that. Oh, shit.
35:30 I'm a street fighter. You don't want to fuck with me. I won't deny it. Oh, wow. I'm a street fighter. You don't want to fuck with me. It turned into the police busing in me. Can't do shit to a G.
35:46 But the original version of it that he had written, he just, look, because he had done that, Park shit is ill because he, to me, he's an art student that took Duggan as a thing. Because he was advanced. is more advanced than the average street writer. Like the things that the street guy would write and put into the actual music,
36:15 it's lifestyle shit, yeah, and aggressive shit that he had done because of what people done to him. But he would write a poetry book when he wasn't doing that. And we do other things. Prodigyvis like that. From all,
36:34 The only other person that I came in contact with that I looked at and was like, yo, nah, like, you did that? Like, yeah, I write books, but I have a writer with me writing the book. Yeah, but probably you should be doing that. So, yeah, he'll do the whole shit, like, like sitting there
36:50 and proofreading and correcting everything in it before it goes out. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that shit. I'm telling you what the fuck you need to say. This is my book, bro. Write this shit for me. Yeah.
37:04 So I don't have to deal with every dot and every eye. You do that part, right? Yeah. And they do that shit. And then he goes, but he would do the whole thing. And then they made fun of it because that he was cultured. Oh, really? And he's fun of him for being caught.
37:21 Well, his mom went to dad's classes and he had the tutu back in the days. Similar to you. Yeah. It was a summer jam, summer jam screen thing when they had him up there. Because the mob deep music was. street music. It was like hard shit. It was real Queensbridge. What was it? Desert Storm.
37:39 Did you know he grew up doing ballet? Not ballet, partner dancing. My parents did a dance studio. But this is what I'm saying to. Scott paints his name. He's not trying to throw it on me. He said, yeah, but did you know, did you know what you know your paintings like that?
37:55 I think they did it. I would say you're cultured. Like, you know. We know what you're saying. But they're exposed to the arts early because the family. was already there. But that's an advantage.
38:06 Yes. But it was a strike against prodigy or a way to clown them. Yeah. Because how aggressive or how gangst the lyrics were on the records. And it was like... But doesn't that happen once people reach a certain level of success? Like you see all these people supported on the way up and then you hit some plateau and then it's people trying to tear you down. All good, all that.
38:32 And that's just with every game, right? it's a part of it because they were uncomfortable the artist community itself when you make it they root for you the first time but when you build a consistency that makes them feel like you're not going to move they're going to go wait how the fuck am I supposed to have my time
38:54 if he's there I can't get this spot right so when your new project comes out they go yeah it's cool but it's not like the first joint first joint everybody accepted you were great then later they go on the out of cool, but it's not like the first one. You got, boy, and shit just sold a million four the first week.
39:13 Yep. You know, The Massacre, my second album sold 10 million records also. Fuck. So when they go, oh, no, that's not as good as that one. I'm like, yeah, I, bitch, the chart don't know what you just said. My fucking records are the number one when they came out. So you don't even mention it. You just keep on pushing.
39:31 Yeah, because they are trying to take away something that already gave me what I'm a gift. from it. You can't change it. You can't change versus can't change that. Those things, the winner is supposed to lose that. Because you have everything too. Because I already fucking won.
39:51 They're going to root for the underdog. I was the underdog coming. Yeah. Now I won. So they look around and you put them up against anybody you put them up again. They're going to root for the other guy because they should. Root for the other guy because you are clearly the winner. Yeah.
40:07 Right. So they can point to anything that's a strong point on this person. They're like, oh, there's not. He said, Jaru shit his pussy, you're singing in the rain? Yeah, the nigger was doing duets. I don't do duets. I put a little melody on the hook. But that's so internationally, bitch, when we travel internationally,
40:28 you see that they respond to my music. Some of these people, English is not their first language. So you need them to be able to hum something. What the fuck do you think they're following? Yeah. But they know in the club. Yes. They know the melodies on these records and you go, oh, okay, so what do you hear?
40:42 Like, radio tone, bro. The rhythm of the rap, the music. I'm like, yo, this shit. We didn't know what the fuck we're saying in gasoline. Oh, yeah, yeah. Remember gasoline? Daddy Yankees. Like, you go, what the fuck?
40:54 I'm like this. Somebody want to make it a gasoline. Play that shit. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I like that shit like the other hits. You can feel this a hit record. Wait a minute. So when you're first starting out, are you already aware of this?
41:04 Or when you're first started out, Are you just like, I just want to get a hit? Or are you plotting the next 10 years in your career? In the first, in the very beginning, give me how to rob. You just want to hit. That was desperation. Like when I made that record,
41:17 it was, Columbia was, I was approaching the release date. Columbia Records was keeping the release date. And I had to do something. To push their hand? Well, to do something to create a notoriety
41:35 a buzz and excitement. Within the culture that made them recognize. Look, you're supposed to get your head tore off for that, like that. Everybody within that culture, look, they hadn't said each other's names. Yeah, I know. Since Tupac and Biggie.
41:50 Oh, so everybody was a little... Everybody was 20 G bets on one of the threats. I'm sending them. Lex three TV sets the minimum. That's Nause talking about Jay-Z. I just say, fuck you if I don't like what you're saying right now. He went through the trouble of building this intricate piece a lines that
42:06 describe what you had in your video. Yeah. And the sublimin news were intense. Like everybody was doing shit that, but they wasn't saying each other's names. So you went direct and all of us
42:20 I remember even as a kid were like, yo, what the fuck is happening? He's crazy. Like, and you go, yeah, yeah, well, crazy is you see what I'm subjected to in my neighborhood? When I'm shot up, that's my neighborhood's activities.
42:34 So you're not worried about rapping on the song No, it didn't get worse. That's just home. Yeah, rappers are safe. Yeah, that's the deal of it. Wait, I want people, all of you, motherfuckers. Yeah. You know, I've had people with three guys,
42:47 then collectively they have four life synthesis. Wow. Those are the people I have beef with, you know what I'm saying? Like, your frame, Jimmy Hitchman, your fucking world, shit like that. Those people were on the list of people you don't want to have problems with. Yeah.
43:03 See, because I don't pick who comes, like, oh, who has the issue. And when they say they want a problem, I say no problem. When they say, what a problem, you say no problem? No fucking problem. You're going to find out that I have resources. All I do is make young introductions, bro. They're fucking tough. Okay, let me introduce you to this tough nigga I know.
43:24 And y'all go go do tough shit. Okay, hold on. So, all right, once you start, once the career goes crazy, now you have a label that realizes your account. cash cow, right? Is there a part of the label that goes, yo, we have to make sure that you're safe because you're literally printing money? No.
43:44 And let me tell you what happened. What you mean no? That didn't happen. What happened was, didn't they show you? No, Eminem is 50 cent, bro. There's no 50 cent without them. And people don't understand my relationship with them because at the time, they had relationships with everybody,
44:05 all of the business. Who is they? This is Murder Inc. This is Irv. This is... Oh, the ops. Yeah, so they were doing... Like, I've never told people not to play John Rood's music. I told him, I don't fuck with him. And if you fuck with him, I don't fuck with you. But they were doing the corporate pressure
44:21 shit, where they basically were kicking you off of that, yeah. So I knew if I did a deal in certain places, it would not, I would not get a fair shot. You didn't deal with the same label or somebody owned by... You had to go over there. I had to be on a West Coast. When the East Coast, West Coast she was going on. Inner Scope is the West Coast. Yeah.
44:39 Oh, wow. That was, Jimmy had Def Roe. Jimmy Iveen had Def Roe that entire time that that was functional. So when you get to Interscope, they're there and they're like, we don't care about what they don't over there. Like, this is a... It doesn't affect our business. It's a world apart. Like, and it gave me
45:01 the fair shot that I needed. Like just that for now, I don't need no help from there. I'm going to run with this shit so crazy. You're going to be like, there's a point where like Paul talks about it, Paul Rosenberg, where you go, he's fucking more popular than him. And I'm going, M's the guy, is you stupid? Because the way I was raised, bro, we've never had an issue because I've never tried to outshine the master. And what I mean by that is he is why I got.
45:33 The opportunity. When I'm selling 13 million records, he sold 24 million records on the Marshall Mathers album. Look, they'll look and say, oh, why he's so he's white? He's white. Yes. He's fucking wide. Yes, why? Why? How long are you going to do that? I know you'll do that when we listen to the fucking music and it's more advanced. Yeah. Yeah. Was he giving you advice artistically at that point? He was looking at me like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy is it? Yeah. Like he didn't, even to this. day he talks, there's a great
46:05 version, there's a great interview where he's he literally wraps a verse of yours. Do you know what I'm talking about? He knows. All of them. And he's like, it's the craziest thing I happen. He picks things because, look, we go, like, I listen. There's not an Eminem record out that I didn't hear.
46:20 Because I didn't sit and listen to. Oh, really? I listen to all of his shit. So when he gets angry, he gets fast. And everything starts coming out, shit like that. And the music, but I listen to every single thing that he's done. And if you, if you, You said he'll send me, and I care what he'll send it to me early.
46:39 So I already know some of the shit that they trying to catch up with to learn it. Right. I already heard it. Oh, wow. You see what I'm saying? So it's like it kind of, we had a relationship that kind of kept us ahead of the curve with a lot of shit. And it's because creatively we was, I was doing things that, look, I wasn't even going to say anything about a job with him.
47:03 when I first got there, I didn't want them to feel like they bought a problem. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I just said he made a mistake and said something about Haley. Yeah, that was crazy. John said something about Haley because he felt like he had a relationship with M because they got high a couple times,
47:21 and then he thought the intimate situation made them blood brothers. You know what I'm saying? And he just went off and said some shit about it. Haley, and M was bothered by it, and it was like, Friday. It was a Friday that we heard it. And it was in Detroit, in the studio. So you're together. Yeah. And he left. He left. We didn't go home. Hold on.
47:44 I recorded automatic gunfire. That's the first tape where I was addressing the situation like that. I recorded that whole CD while him Saturday and Sunday. And M is, he goes home to write his shit? He went home to chill for the weekend. Like the rest of Saturday, Sunday is cool.
48:06 You could have went out and the hotel or the little casino in it and shit like that. You weren't partying. You were, you're right. It's business. It's me, banks. Yeah, you there. Everybody's, like, no, we're not leaving. Bro.
48:19 They love. They're gone. It's ours. Yeah. And you guys recorded the whole week. The whole automatic gunfight. When he came back, he was like, yo, I said, yo, you got to hear this. I go, look.
48:30 So let's, boom. And he goes, after he got past, like, the third track. I'm like the eye smell pussy and all that he was like when did you do this yeah yeah he's like yo this guy's crazy like yo he said wait a minute wait me wait a minute I gotta do my shit like he said I had to mind so you inspired him to go he's saying I got it he didn't hadn't touched on how he was going to respond to what Jaya said because he left the chill for two days and it came back yeah so suddenly we got back that Monday he was like no you got here this bro because
49:03 this is like he's like he like Bro, you know, it's like, just the same clothes you had when you left. Yeah, yeah. Like, we never left the studio. He stayed in that studio. That's like, when Tupac made it to the West Coast, yeah. I understand.
49:18 This is why we had more Tupac music than Biggie music. Why? When he passed, because he was going back to jail. So he's like, I got to record. He's out on appeal. So he's like, what? He's working like an animal, bro. Yeah, yeah.
49:33 And then he's done so much. Drey was still on his victory lap from the chronic So the first record he did when he got out there was California love Wow California love Fresh on Bell He was a jail California Dreaming So that shit was hard and then he did a double CD
49:54 It was all eyes on me Then he broke street date with Maga Valle It was only a five-album deal He had because of concrete rows or something else sitting there He had to do the key art and put skits together to it. But Drey didn't produce none of those records. Oh, shit. So, Shil was telling Jimmy, I don't know, something might have to happen to Drey.
50:19 What? Something might have to happen to Drey because he got to figure out how he can give Tupac hits. No, a piece of a death row. To keep him. He built the outlaws at the same time. This is all him having something If he goes back to jail, the outlaws can still Rock. Because he got them hot.
50:42 You know what I'm saying? And then so he's building all of this up. We got two other albums sitting there The tracks is there. They mixing shit and Figuring out skits to make the albums complete, shit like that. But it just, he did him fast, bro.
50:59 Okay, so what's happening for you at this time? Are you tracking all this? Are you seeing what they're doing strategically? No, I watch everybody. what everybody was doing, bro. It's not, because there's no plan B. This shit got to work for me. I was saying, no, I got to work.
51:13 Well, I remember when we were in Australia, you were saying something interesting to me about, like, you're like, I could turn on the tour aspect whenever I want. Yeah, I go, and out. And, like, it was a very interesting thing. I spoke to somebody else about this, and they're like, if you have a 10-year run in, let's say, music. Yeah, like, it's like, Jay, just displayed it.
51:33 Exactly. You can go tour whenever you want. That's, look, what do you think creates the Yankee Stadium shows? Tell me. He spent about eight months an alleged rapist. Jesus. You got to figure out how to fix that shit. Fifth, come on, man.
51:50 We were doing so well. We were doing so well, man. She dropped, she dropped. There was an alleged, I say he spent six months an alleged. Did you hear that statement? Yes. What was incorrect about that? It's nothing incorrect about it.
52:05 But you didn't even have to. Three fighter out of October 16. I don't think that. Ball on. That's the fucking do. Hands out of the Yankee Stadium three times. Look at this. You go,
52:18 whose job is it to make sure he can stay in a good enough position publicly for them to make the money back that they already gave him? Who? I don't know the answer to this. Five live nation. Okay. So you think those concerts were already planned? He's slow.
52:38 Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, wait, wait. So this allegation. No, no, they've done this before. This is not new, bro. The Yankee Stadium in Detroit as a stadium, him and Eminem. Yeah. Em is the biggest fucking rap artist in the world.
52:52 They pair you with Eminem two people. I don't go fuck who it is, nigga. You can go find a guy that had, go get that boy. I got broad to the love. designer? Yeah, that, yeah. Get him with that one record and pay him with that.
53:11 in them and that shit is sell out. You're saying his O, you're saying his M's going to sell out no matter what. It's going to fucking sell out. He's doing two shows just New York and Detroit. Come on. Interesting. What the fuck, bro? And then there's like, in between them there's a song.
53:26 Great song, though. Really, renegade. That's right. I said, even when they did this shit, I was at home, I said, look at this thing. She was bitch-ass, nigga. She was hot. It's hard.
53:37 Look as you get thrown. It's fine, bro. She was fine, bro. Was that ever weird? Because it seems like M is your biggest supporter. Like, does he talk to you? That's not, look, see, look, you don't have to, you don't ever have to explain yourself to me, right?
53:55 Yeah. I go, yo, that relationship is not going to change. You can't mean what he meant to my career. Nobody else can't. Yeah. At that point, what he's done, he's done it already. Yeah. So if he's going to, you want to rap at the show, then go, bro.
54:08 What the fuck? Like, if you said it to me. If you said it to me in advance, I would say go. So if Eminem does a song with Jai Rule right now. He won't do a song. If he did, would you feel away? No, he won't do that, bro. So you wouldn't feel it?
54:20 But he's got his own beef with J. No, he don't. You think I got a beef with Jay Zee. They would make him not do something? He won't do something with somebody that is a direct op of me, or they got that. And he's not going to fuck with you. Okay.
54:33 So you're admitting J's not your op. You just. Oh, you're going to. I just, you think. No. He is, though. He actually is. I'm a big Jay-Z fan.
54:43 Actually, I'm a big New York fan, because I'm a big fan of yours and I'm a big fan of his. I just don't like that you always pitting the Niggins-I part. Just say this, though. At what point did Jay-Z's music dominate? I would say since he came out
54:55 until, like, probably early 2000s? What I would say to you is, when did he dominate when Biggie and Tupac was a lot? At what point? No. It was not dominating. He wasn't. Even that album,
55:08 did you just said that... I would say, The concert was honor and reasonable doubt. Yeah. Right. That album charted at number 23. Okay. So when was he dominating and the strong focus?
55:19 I hear you. Volume two. Volume two. This is what I'm saying to you. It was, he didn't have those moments like that. Yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying?
55:26 Like, where he was clearly the guy, his opportunity to be the guy? He didn't have an episode, though. With him and not, the Nause. But he ain't have a big co-line when he was coming out. He lost it. He lost it. He lost one.
55:38 The fuck. Are we talking about it? So now, as you get past that, you look, and you go, okay, yeah. I sent his ass to be the president of death jet. You lost his mind momentum. I sent his funky ass to go over there. I got to get back in the corporate. I can't do this right now.
55:58 You lost the cognate. You lost the cognate. Yeah, but I lost the death chair. Okay. He'll say he beat me. He'll say he beat me in his fucking book. He probably won't. He mentioned that that's one of the times that he beat me.
56:12 Because he pushed the button. He pushed the button at death camp while he's the president. And it was the right move. What's the button? What is that? What I'm saying? They did every fucking thing you can do. They got to take out.
56:25 And what they did everything you could do it to get that Kanye record into a good space? And it worked. It worked. Everything that Inescope records didn't bother to do because of my successful sales history. We sold the shit anyway, naturally sold. records so there was no need to go put gas on nothing got you they just did everything that they had to do to do it this this shit is he is significant because he has maneuvered into a position that he wants to be in and life where people
56:53 look at him like he's the fucking best rap artist in the world you know when you rap art in general is it's selective is people got to look at it and appreciate it to feel that way yeah but these people are conditioned they you got must feel that way based on trophies No, I just like the music I think his ability to rap He's probably the best When he wasn't winning in front of
57:17 Because Jaru was selling more records than Jay Z Yeah, but I don't care about records DMAX was selling more records than JZ The points that they came out And they was moving those units And at that influence in culture He was there He hung on the CEO
57:29 Yeah There's a CEO I'm CEO You're niggas is just rapists I'm CEO But there's something to hang on to adapt But you couldn't fucking Do those numbers
57:38 You just wasn't as much marketable as those artists were at the time. Yeah, there's a thing. They've been running the game and you skipped Blab Day. Skip Blake Day, the whole time. In the Rick Ruben Dock, there's a thing, and I got to credit Damien Lemm was hilarious comedian. He said this way back in the day, said this to
57:55 me and Charlotte, I think. And he was like, there was a J-Lyric, like, who's the best, you know, Biggie, who's he said, Biggie Jay, Anah, something like that. And what Damien said back in the day is like, he wasn't even in that discussion. He was deserted himself in the discussion.
58:11 And he acknowledged it in the reproving everything. So maybe there's a lot of credit to Jay for maneuvering his career. No, he's the best. He's the best. At the looking you're saying despite the music not being as successful as the new music culture. Jay-Z
58:27 is significant and a phenomenal artist, but even better person that maneuvering himself into that position without the music actually doing it. Right. So then what is it like because here's something that with you that I'm always fascinated
58:43 by is like you go into TV film Yeah All right so you do take over music done easy You go into TV film Which people might not know
58:57 But it could be more diabolical Than a fucking It's way harder It's way harder Really Why do you think you only see Tyler Perry? Why? It's very hard
59:09 It's fucking very hard to get into that position. And you look, Tyler is extremely significant, bro. Yep. You know what I'm saying? And he had to bring everything in house. He did it, but he did it and he kept doing it. Yep. You know what I'm saying?
59:26 So you can't take that away from it. Like, his content, he got a targeted demographic. Of course, he came through the chilling circuit with the plays. Yeah. So he had that. He built up to him. He got a church poured to him, you know, like. I always, yo, how does it feel to have the biggest character you play be like a woman?
59:45 Like, Medea, dig it? Like, I'll say it to it because it's not offensive. Anything that I'm saying about Tyler is not offensive because I ask him this question. I'll say this to him. Yeah, yeah. And he is not, like, I get cool. Like, I'll hang out with this motherfucker, man. Like, the way the communication is, he's cool, bro.
01:00:07 It's not like, that's why I saw it. when you look at the body of work after, when you understand that they're not screaming for diversity. Are you crazy? They don't care to see you niggas on the TV, bro. That's real. I'm saying, you know, I'm saying if I put, look, the original Hollywood is white Hollywood.
01:00:28 So the Hollywood that successfully sells the best is white Hollywood. Right. If you make diversity, I'm up against not so many fabulously financed projects. Okay. Right? So when I come in,
01:00:46 I'm able to create shit that is beyond up the standard because of the landscape or the business. I'm coming at a time that you got streamers and apps and all of these different things and everybody's competing.
01:00:58 And when you got to compete, you got to spend. Every me. And then they're carving out what makes them unique and special and then what brings the core audience over to different places. Like for stars, they would lean on Outlander.
01:01:11 Bro. They would Outlander, Outlander, Outlander, Outland, Outland, and it's, look, I'm going, what the fuck, Power, why are you? They're not saying Power. They're saying Outlander. When you look at the subscribership and the people that are drawn there, it's for me saying. So this is the thing I keep telling people, it's like,
01:01:28 and again, you correct me if I'm wrong here, but what I thought you did when it came to TV film is you demonstrate it, and now this happens all the time, by the way, but you demonstrated that the streamer doesn't have an audience, the show has an audience. My content matches my personality slightly. Yeah. Like you can see, I can see him making that while he would make that.
01:01:49 Yeah. Creatively, and it's like I got a taste of what I like. And Tyler should have carved out like that too. And then he'll start to teeter over. You'll start to see him make things because he said he was a little jealous when they hit like that. But Power, they didn't receive it right away to the point that I had to speak. The people were there because it meant. What you mean?
01:02:12 Like, they thought they were popping? Before the Power Universe took place. Yeah. And we was going off there and I say, yo, you, I know what time it is. You know, I'll let you know when it's coming back. Oh, you pulled it. He pulled it. You pulled it and then they realized.
01:02:31 They lost 40% of the subscribers show. Wow. And you did that so they understood what you brought. It was so mad. I came in the office. He goes, it's Chris Holberg again, the car, reluctant and he said. Carr comes in there, what kind of partner does this? Right?
01:02:43 And I'm like, listen, you guys have been doing this a lot longer than me, man. I say, if you're not understanding that you have the issue is you're having a programming issue. And it's not what I said. Then I'm not understanding what you're looking at. And Chris was looking at me and he goes, when we get ready to leave, he says, that kid's fucking way smarter than you think he is.
01:03:07 We got to do something like with, to expand it. And then I get the call. back, this is when they're willing to do the power units. Okay. You come out as 50, you put out G unit, you force out G unit second before you drop the second out. This is all strategic, right? Yeah.
01:03:23 Is that the same fucking gameplay you do with power and then I'm in the universe? When you do, that scenario I just explained to you was what I did to make them look at it like we need more of this. Like we need more to keep the people there because it was taking six months. More than that. Eight months for the show to come back. Yeah. And I'm like,
01:03:47 yo, so it goes off. They only have the app for that. People make choices now. They don't click every fucking app and pay. I was one of those people. So you're going to pay for stars. Pay every month.
01:03:57 You take it out. But if you got the universe running the whole year, now I'm paying for. There's way more money for them. And what they're probably trying to do is match certain programming without you. And you're like, hold on,
01:04:07 we don't do that with helping. They're maximizing. They were spending the money on the other program. It's not. And it's like we're not here for Outlander. Like they had two different tracks. Yeah.
01:04:18 The Outlander track and everything that was there was what was supposed to make the network successful, successful. You know what I'm saying? Because it was definitely, it targets a white audience, but even, look, every other culture is conditioned to watch. White entertainment. This is why we love Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. Oh, sure. Because they were your gangster representation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:42 in early stages. Yeah. That was done well. Yeah. That actually had budgets involved to make the scenes go. Everything's tight. Yeah. Those movies were made and the iconic movies.
01:04:56 Like, I don't care what cultural you use. Like, what nationality you have? You watched that. And those were the favorite movies. Yeah, we're all watching Godfather. We're all watching fucking Tony McDonnellers. They were looking at that shit and say, okay, Cuban refugee. Me.
01:05:10 Inpert here. that person right there. It didn't matter that they wasn't the same. They could see themselves getting to the top of the game like that. Yeah. You know what I mean?
01:05:22 And you would even see the mirror the clothing. We wear the suits like that. So you think when the industry's talking about diversity, you actually don't think that they're... They don't care about diversity. Trust me.
01:05:36 It's not like, look, look at this. I've been number one in African-American and Latino households for, and this shit is crazy, like, for 13 years. Wow. Power, just the original power came out. That's been number one, African-American, Latin, households, and the universe stayed there.
01:05:54 So, when, that's a fact, when you look at that, and there was no Emmy nomination to lose. It never even made it to that platform for the... That's the Taylor-Sharrison thing. You know, Taylor created his world, and he never gets a fucking Emmy nomination, nothing.
01:06:13 Don't need one. Well, that's the thing. He don't need one. But I don't know what he wants. But it's another example of, like, he created a world in his likeness. He kind of did a 50-cent thing. He's getting a B. He's getting a B.
01:06:25 He's getting a B. Yes, he's going to get, like, believe me, bro. Yeah. Like, you think, why do you think I'm impressed for you to say, he's the greatest rapper? He's got a boatload of money, right? I'm not worried about that shit. Like, you're going to, like, it is, I'll make you the best thing song you've heard in your line.
01:06:45 Want to jingle? Look, look, look, look, look, check this out. When you think about, like, set-ups where you get a chance to continue to be 50, I haven't compromised myself because I don't have to. I am me. You know, like, they got to figure out how to have someone like me on their team to have that type of day. You know what Fox was saying when they made empire? This is our power.
01:07:09 no way isn't it yes what do you think they say when snowfall is under the network yep wow this is our power like this is
01:07:17 our version they were doing the Hollywood thing where it's like because we hit the bulls out exactly it's a race to be second yeah and then when you go I'm hitting the bulls out
01:07:25 but they don't have the marketing money so I got to have beef with them you fuck empire it stole my tagline right because empires are built on power that was just good marketing when you're trying to get the same audience to take a look at
01:07:39 And then they had all the funds to continue to marketing to get that audience to gravitate to, you know, to cookie over what was going on over there. And I love to Roger. Yeah. Fifth level of a work of shit. One of the biggest things I respect about you is how you've been able to step in any room and stay yourself. Like you go to Hollywood and you stay yourself. You don't get compromised. You don't get compromised.
01:08:00 My audience, they are running the fucking world. Explain. The people who were in college in 2003, 2005, when I'm clearly dominating music coaching. These are the people who are the CEOs now. They are running the business now. They are running the fucking world. Wow.
01:08:24 So the people in charge are the people that have. Everybody did I go talk to to make the deal? Completely understands why. Oh, wow. So I walk in meaning more than the average producer. The person you talk to. And what happens if it's the, older generation who doesn't really
01:08:42 understand who you are. They understand by the track record. I have 42 shows across 15 networks. I'm the only person that you'll be talking to that has that. At the present moment, active shows. Eleven going towards air. The others are in different stages of development, production
01:08:58 and stuff like that, but it's easier to tell me yes. Yeah. And then once you get a certain amount of momentum that builds. Like, you look, you think I need variety or deadline or Hollywood reporter to write a story on me. The fuck out of it.
01:09:14 I reach 110 million people through my phone. Yeah. So what I need them for? That sends a signal to business insider is that if you want this project to be a success and you want it to work, right? You need to get that over there. Have they ever tried to ask you to do a show
01:09:27 that's completely outside of who you are the basis? Yeah, I've been, you know, I always want to be outside of it. But they think, look, don't use music and say this is what he's going to produce in television. Right? Because you would have people, specifically the ditty doc, when I talked to other people who were in development on docs
01:09:52 because I was like, yo, they might have a take on it and we might be able to get with it and just do it like that because I had everything else in place, right? And they were like, so why do you want to do? And I'm like, what? The fuck is wrong with you. I'm the only person. hip-hop culture in culture that's producing these shows.
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01:13:08 Guys, also, we're almost back into, I mean, things are feeling good right now, okay? We got Street Fighter coming out. We got the NBA, we have real sports back, football's back, the NBA is coming back. This is literally, it's fall. You get some nice outfits off in New York City. This is the best time of year.
01:13:26 Yep, okay? And it is very interesting to me that the New York Knicks somehow after dominating in the playoffs, like an utterly dominant performance, are not the favorites to repeat. This, to me, is disrespectful and shocking, but we like it.
01:13:47 Yeah, yeah. We do like it. We want to be questioned. I mean, Kalshi has OKC and the Spurs tied at 22% to win the end of the finals. That's crazy. But here's the thing.
01:13:57 It's like, everybody comes to New York because they want to go up against the odds. You don't leave wherever, you're from and move to the most competitive city in the world because you're worried about being an underdog. Yeah, I mean, LeBron did it. He left Akron, Ohio to come to New York. Thank you.
01:14:13 Right? Thank you. He's living here flying around in a helicopter. 100% because he needs to know what it feels like to be an underdog. If he lived in Philly, whether they're number three, they're above the Knicks right now. Yeah, Sixers are at 13%. And the Knicks are at a measly single digit 9%. But we like that.
01:14:31 We like that. We like being overlooked. That's inspiration. That's a little too disrespectful. Was that trying to put spin on it? I was trying to put too much spin on it. Fuck y'all there. Fuck y'all that.
01:14:42 Fuck y'all that are not believing in us. Okay? Wow. Nix and five. I mean, you're going to see Philly versus the Knicks opening day. Damn right. When is that?
01:14:52 The 20-something? Hopefully it goes better than that preseason game. We're not worried about that preseason. What? We're talking about practice? Play. Talk about practice, come on.
01:15:01 We're not going to do all that, Al. Come on. Listen, what we're going to do what we always do. We might in the beginning of the season
01:15:09 let other teams think they got a shot. It really might be that. Sandbagging. I'm not going to say we're going to sandbag, but we already understand we can come back
01:15:17 from any league. When you go down 29 in the finals and then you come back. Sorry, 39. When you go back, when you go back, is there anything else you can't do
01:15:26 at that point? It's like, you're kind of invisible. It's a little rope at. Thank you. Come on. We got this. Thank you. Come on.
01:15:31 100%. And there's lots more Nick's gear. It's kind of nice. Everyone's got Nick's shit. I've seen more Knicks apparel in the last week than I have in the six years of the day. Let's go. You know what? I really want to say, I like us being underdogs because it allows other people not from New York to live vicariously through us.
01:15:49 The one thing about this Knicks championship win is usually when the New York team is in the finals, the entire world's against us. I remember going through that as a Yankee fan No one gave a fuck They hated the Yankees But the Knicks have been so sorry for so long People started rooting for us Yeah So it's really the entire world
01:16:11 And the Knicks Vers whoever else is on that porch If you really think that So I'm gonna go with the entire world There you go All right, let's get back to the show It's interesting I think a lot of people from the outside
01:16:23 Have an assumption to like Oh the streets and gang life Is like ruthless and cunning but Hollywood is all, you know, buttoned up and everyone's, you know, above board. Is Hollywood just as much of a gang as street life? It's worse. Have people tried to intimidation? Only because, no, not me.
01:16:39 How do you do that? I mean, so why would it be worse? Because they're not. Because of how? When they rob you, they have that nice suit I just had on. Yeah. When they rob you, it's in their language. Yeah.
01:16:53 It's not, they don't give you the courtesy of pointing a gun at you. Yeah. They hide behind the law. So you can feel it. Yeah. You just find out after what the fuck. People try to get over on you in that same area. The courtesy of point you go, they feel fear.
01:17:05 Yeah. Wow. When we're taking your shit, right? You miss that whole part of it. And they just walk off with your shit. Anytime I see you post a white guy on Instagram, I'm like, oh, some exec got cute. There's my some old white dude on your Instagram. When they do shit, they make me uncomfortable.
01:17:24 I respond to it sometimes. And when that happens, I go, yo, look. this guy, oh, you're talking about, that's a guy from Shreveport. It was something. I just saw you post something. You looked like KFC, the Colonel. Yeah, I was like,
01:17:35 this guy's in for a world opinion. But it's like everything else, when you use you for hits. Because you're getting that much coverage in that area. Yeah. You just put little things out because, you know, journalists, though.
01:17:47 Yeah. And then use the journalists as weapons. Yeah, yeah. And when they're doing that, I'm going, yo, why he keeps that? Like, it's like the issue was, should I be able to put brands on the gates? of the property I own.
01:17:59 It's like it's your fucking property. What the fuck do you mean? Like when I got to cover it up because it's going to be a working construction site, I put things that matter to me. That's going to come to your report as I come. Those things, right?
01:18:15 So it was a, it's usually about nothing when they do that. And that's why it's being handled in a playful way because later I tell them, you know, you might as well be friends, bro, because you being my enemy, it's not going to matter. I got too many enemies already.
01:18:31 You don't win. Shit. Unless the people that, you know, you're not a threat at all to me. Yeah. And, you know, we might as well just have dinner and talk about how you feel the way you feel. How much, how often does that happen where, like, you will get somebody to speak straight to you? And is there anybody that you felt like, oh, I actually admire this guy's honesty? Yeah.
01:18:55 If you're saying something and it's how you feel about it, I'm like, okay, I see, I don't feel. I mean privately, like, they'll be like, hey, can we talk this out? No, not a lot. That doesn't happen. Because, you know what happens if they, I would absolutely understand that. You know, like, there's times I just commented or just did things, and it's just me being me. Like, I look at shit, like, Beckham, O'Dell. Oh, what happened?
01:19:25 I saw like wild pictures. Like, like, it's a dress choice? Like, those shit? And I'm like, yo, he's wilder, right? I post him, like, yo, he did it. And he thought, like, I had a beef with him. Like, I was, like, a beef with him. Yeah.
01:19:39 And I seen him, and he was like, yo, when you posted, like, we ain't had a beef and I'm not like that? And I was like, what? Yeah. So what the fuck is you talking about, bro? I said, beef. I'm like, nah, man. You're talking about when I'm posted a pitch.
01:19:54 I said, nigger, you wore that shit. You wore that shit I looked at the shit I said what the fuck is going on here right? I'm like yo he looked he gave me the open laugh at me
01:20:03 when I'm saying it because he's saying he's nah I get it you know what I'm saying like it's not like but leave hell no
01:20:11 yeah over your choice to wear what you want to wear yeah it's joke no I'm just saying there was
01:20:16 different shit going on if you're doing some different shit right now I'm like what's that why streetfort giving you such a hard time
01:20:23 if you're going to bring so many jobs and like just traffic to the air. When you're doing something that you're looking to revitalize the area, right? I always look to do the biggest thing possible, like take on the biggest challenge, right? And you think I've done everything I've done in my career to be a restaurant on? No. It's not on my list of shit, too.
01:20:44 How, how much, look, when I come back, are you going to think I'm crater because I have a successful restaurant now? No, fucking way, is that what she was doing? Why you wouldn't do something productive? something else, right? Like you're doing, but that's not an easy business. These are not easy businesses to make work. Yeah. But I would take on those challenges because it's right there.
01:21:03 And to bring people there and to get them active faster, because I know I will put the money in to start it functioning. Right. Right. And they play games in negotiations. Like, there's a thing where, you know, the mayor there, he said to me, right, when I did Human Harmony, he said, you know, there's some people that are not happy.
01:21:23 I was there. It's not happy you're here. Why? And I'm like, you're in Louisiana. Okay. Some people are not happy your black ass is doing anything. Okay. You understand?
01:21:37 Let alone going to the biggest party for that weekend. Yeah, you had all the biggest fucking celebs coming out there. It turns into 35,000 people and all of the star power. The relationships bring that energy. Yeah. And you're going, this is a show you couldn't make. It's an unmakable show You can't repeat it
01:21:56 I mean just the comedy show It's insane Yeah I know The line of all just off of you You sending a text out Look at the lineup What would it cost? No you can't pay for it
01:22:05 You can't pay for that Yeah It was it was like the roast of Tom Brady But in Shreveport Without Tom Brady You know You had to take a connecting flight You know what I mean
01:22:20 Pat Williams Yeah Andrew Shultz, Matt Rife, Earthquake, Bill Bellamy, Michael Blackson, so many other... DC Young Fly.
01:22:33 Geo-D. Gary Owen. Bubba Doug. Gary was there. Gary? Yeah. Look, this is so much star power. There's so much...
01:22:44 Look, if you can't pay that lineup. You know what you need to do that? We need a... 65,000 or a 70,000 arena. Seed arena, yeah, a stadium, basically. To do that. And then a setup that allows them to feel like they can see those screens a little closer than that. Because that's the Super Bowl of, that would probably get more eyeballs if we marketed it.
01:23:20 Yeah. But we did it. We didn't, without surprise, it was opening an entire attack. at that point. So anybody that said, Live Nation was the partner on it to begin with when we had it in the stadium. They go, it's not a tarant market.
01:23:35 I'm like, what the fuck do you mean? It's not a tarant market. Neither is the desert for fucking Bernie Man. You know what I'm saying? You go, I'm like, what do you mean, bro? Like, you tell me, I can move people here. Yeah. Like, you're crazy?
01:23:48 And you're going, well, so, okay, you're going to do the lineup and do this, This is nice. Yes. We'll move a mountain out this motherfucker because everybody was holding hell me down on that. And you look at them going what? When they saw it happened? They were like, oh shit. Yeah. Now you're live. You got to get some things with people go, you know, maybe we do something again. Yeah. They try to play hard to get it. Some motherfuckers change their whole tone like. Listen. People flew in to do eight minutes.
01:24:25 Yeah. We're not talking about like, like, Cat Williams flew in. But they didn't need, look, look, the eight minutes, the time didn't matter. Yeah.
01:24:31 It's just show that you can get. To, yeah. Grace the stage at that point when you had the biggest things that was hitting, in between, we had live music,
01:24:42 hit music in between, there's like, they didn't stay on stage long enough for you to hear shit you didn't want to hear. That's true. That's true. You come out with your hit?
01:24:50 Slap hit and move. Boom. Comedian. Yeah. Ex-comedian. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, and they didn't go, bought the music next committee.
01:24:56 They were sitting there and shocked. Like, oh, shit, too. Yeah. Like, I'm glad my cousin didn't come. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, you missed it. I told you.
01:25:09 Like, if you was doing that, if I put the show up, again, without even mentioning who was coming, it would sell out. Yeah. Now you're dealing with governmental power. Like, do you understand power on a different level now that you're at this point? The governor, Governor Landry's, right? He'd go down there. What happened that was significant
01:25:26 about that event was they usually have four to five violent crimes a day in Shreveport, right? Oh yeah, I remember this. No violence. No crime all weekend. The crime stopper.
01:25:37 All weekend. Everybody just was like, yo, something exciting is happening. And it ain't a good time to be in jail. Yeah, yeah. Right? So nobody fucked up. Yeah.
01:25:47 For 16 days before they had another violent crime ticket. Wow. Just the thought, even the afterthought, of this is coming to the town. They got high off that shit, bro. It was high off of it enough
01:26:01 to not fuck up at all. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But then I would think, hey, let's roll out the red carpet for him. Law and he's in the background. He comes from the legal side of things. He's looking and he goes,
01:26:16 you know that four or five people, like four or five violent crimes that took place has been there. as a staple. Yeah, that's a baseline. That's just what has been there. Yeah. Like, he says, so free to stop, shit, we got to do that again.
01:26:34 Because the man is, it's very positive intentions in my eyesight. Like, from my perspective, he does things, and it was, that is what drove him to support the idea. All right. Tell me about, tell me about Street Fighter and you being just the actor. Yeah, that was cool. I felt like I was on vacation because I was away from everybody. My phone went off too. I didn't have to fuck with them while I was doing the training and everything.
01:27:03 So I was able to do, you know, just get away from me. And for me, it's like I'm back in that tone of my boxer. But was it hard to not be producer as well? Yeah, yeah. That's why the producer of Carol, he takes us out on a yacht. Oh, yeah. And it was like the coolest shit. Cody did technically.
01:27:23 Yeah. Cody took us out on the yacht and then 50 heads and big up everybody. I'm like, what the fuck? Bro, why? The guy that got with me, look, what the fuck are you doing, bro? Why are you not thinking to do that? Yeah.
01:27:36 So he ran down the whole thing. I didn't go nowhere. They didn't know I'm just training, training, training, train, training. That's all I'm doing. Yeah. Train it. And then we go off on this yacht because they call us the whole cast to come. And we have a ball.
01:27:47 Yeah. And I'm like, yo, why the fuck this? They're taking me to that shit and I'm not taking them or doing that. And then he went and found something They could You know Replace that That's how we got to
01:27:59 I bought him out the amusement part Like an actual whole thing part The whole thing part The whole thing part Yeah The cast and crew could come So like the guys He's gripped
01:28:10 He's moving the lights And shit like that The next day It's like yo fiff Yeah The fucking guy You got the guys Like he's like
01:28:16 Go Because everybody got chance To bring like their girl Or somebody from home With them You remember the magician? Yeah, he fucked you out. He was super fun.
01:28:25 He fucked you up. He did some of that time, look, listen, when I, a good magician? 50 kind of believes in magic, bro. A little bit. Yeah, but you know it's not. But, no, some of the shit is incredible, bro. Like, when he really good, bro? Yeah.
01:28:42 That's my favorite. No, but I look and I think. Who don't love a good magician? No, that is not of God. This is some evil shit. He's doing evil shit right now. I don't know what you just did. Look, he's doing it in front of us right now.
01:29:17 That's when I started looking around. Bro, I start thinking the devil's involved. Wow. Whenever you see it, because you know that this... Jackson and Aces, the magician. Yeah, shout out, Jackson Aces, man. The physics and shit, like that physical shit, things are not possible.
01:29:35 I love it. How did you just do some shit that is impossible? Yeah. And then when you think, because when you think magic, is it black magic? Maybe. That day. You don't notice that they pick evil things? Like Chris Angels and them?
01:29:46 Yeah. Why don't you think they pick the evil thing? Why is that? Because the things that you don't know, like if you're a god-faring person, things are... Already magical. Yes, they're already magical. It's already that way. Wow.
01:29:58 So they have to use the darkness. Yes, because this is the unknown. You're starting to tap into a different. area and that's why I like Chris Inge that shit be having my fucking here standing up on my back bro, what did you do? Tell me the trick, bro.
01:30:14 What the fuck? Slow down. Let me see now, so what you do? Have you ever met him? Have you ever had you? Hey, I look, look, I like it. I would like to be able to do some of it when it's advanced. Yeah. But the shit is like, bro,
01:30:31 what the fuck was that? Like, how do you? Yeah, come back. Slow down, do that shit again. Let me see what you just did. Yeah. Yo, show me how to do that. Tell me how to do that. You got to take it to like a big magic show.
01:30:44 Like a big stage magic show. Yeah, we got to do. Yeah, they should be standing there and they be right on the other side of the room at the same time. Yeah. I'm like, do you loki believe it, though? I do. I look this motherfucker as the devil.
01:30:58 When he started doing that, because they're just shit, like in the nails and everything's black in his hair and all this extra shit. It's evil shit. This shit I don't understand. I feel like, take that. Then I don't understand what you're doing, your faith base or what's going on there at all.
01:31:13 You got something different going on. And then show me some shit that I thought was not possible. Like there's some people who believe psychics are evil. Yeah. They have the gift to do different things. They can tell you all your shit. What happens is because they feel like those demons have been watching you for some time. But would you go to a psychic?
01:31:34 I have. And what they say? And he told me shit like that, you know, I don't frequent that shit because it is scared. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. You know. But that's like a, yeah, I've went in a spot.
01:31:50 I got a, what's the, I'm going to scare people out of doing that. Wait, what? You know, I think it's a great place for horror. What is? Magic. Magic or psychic? Yeah, when you go meet, when you go meet, an actual demon? I feel like you're pitching a movie right now that is I'm building now we're talking now we're talking yeah would you do something in the horror genre yeah yeah that's what and that's that I would like in horror I would bring it to things that you see that you might not indulging like you've all rolled past the signs the electric sign that says psychic and wooden hands and shit like that and winda and shit like that yeah but you know it could be really scary I don't ever go in I don't know but that this is what I'm saying I'm spoofing it's right I'm spooly
01:32:34 When you've seen it, but you don't understand what it is. Yeah. It's a great area for you to tap into it to build. Right, because there's an unknown. There's a mystery. Yes. That's a great point. Like, if you're already spiritual,
01:32:44 magic isn't a big thing for you to believe in. No, it's already magic happen. Yeah. That's why I don't do Ouija boards or play with any of that stuff. Yeah. There's no way. That should have a party? Would you do a Ouija board?
01:32:57 I don't believe that. Even if you don't believe it, why risk you? Do you believe in ghosts? The spirit is stuck. it's not ghosts. There's this show called Widows Bay. Did you hear of this show? It won a bunch of awards. You heard about it? At Woodle's Bay? Anyway, they handled
01:33:12 this exact feeling. We're discussing perfectly in it. Because there is something like spiritual or cursed with this place where the show takes place? I had an experience one time in L.A.? Yeah. Tell me. I had it on Sunset Plaza, right? I had a house out there.
01:33:28 And I was in there writing. I'm on the bed. The music's playing, but it's not that loud. It's just something you did. Oh God. And I turned the music off for a second and I'm just sitting there chilling and there's nothing going on in the house and click.
01:33:45 The lock opened up and the door opened. But like just enough for someone to fit in into the room and it just stopped. And I sat up on the bed, look,
01:34:05 and was like, what the fuck? I looked at the clock. It's like 6 o'clock. Somebody just came home from work. Imagine you died and you just, your spirit just continued to go home. I mean, still having a 9-5 and still. And you just came home for work.
01:34:20 Fuck, the bad as a motherfucker because you're dead. I was like, what the fuck is this? Yo, I'm sitting there bugging like, yo, no, I do believe that, you know, some people get stuck here. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow.
01:34:36 Like, they don't actually, their spirit don't leave. And then they'll be haunted shit. Shit, they'd be there. Any other experiences like that? Or was that the only one? That was the only time that I've, like, been somewhere and was scared. Yeah. Like, slightly scared by what just happened.
01:34:49 Did you leave the house? Get the fuck up out of there. I got the fuck up out of you. I'm like, just the stories I got. I still don't know if they're fucking with me. I don't know if they're fucking with me because there was one time I was talking about a past life regression. So it was like I went to some. lady and she's like connected with my grandmother and I'm like talking to my grandmother
01:35:09 in like the spiritual world whatever while I'm talking about that story this door it's a heavy ass door it just opened up nobody on the other end of that shit nobody comes I think they fucking with me but we checked outside there was nobody out there yeah same shit like that door is heavy I've seen that like I think it was the wind no no no look it's not the wind bro I don't know what it was what I don't know what I closed the door right after close it and pull it? Because I'm like, how? It didn't move on my end.
01:35:41 Like, the handle didn't move when it clicked and opened. So when I'm moving it, the thing is moving. But it just went click and open. It came in. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm serious. And I was like, what the fuck? I sat there and then I started feeling like,
01:35:57 yo, this is some weird shit, bro. Like, I got up and I was like, yo. That's good Caliweed right there. I don't smoke. That shit. Yeah. That shit had me. I was like,
01:36:07 that was something else. It just came. What about nightmares? You ever wake up with like crazy vivid nightmares? No, no. You know, I did have nightmares all the time.
01:36:18 I got shot. That's what I was going to... Yeah, I did still have that lingering. You would wake up in the middle of the night where it was happening or what? No, not me getting shot again, but I kept getting in shootouts. Shit like that because of...
01:36:32 It didn't shift. Like when you get hurt like that, like that bad, you get shirt, that by, like, then you're halfway key, it hurts, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like that, first your fear consumes you. It consumes you. Yeah, you're just afraid of shit. And then that, when you're not comfortable with that, because that's just not who you are, your personality, like, to be like that all the time, then you start to become a better insensitive. because the only way to get rid of that emotion
01:37:06 is to take on the anger or to take on aggression. Something else takes its place. Yes. And then that, it replaces that because it's simple like when people don't know something, if you got information or output or something that they're not aware of it, they could be angry for not understanding.
01:37:27 There's a defensiveness. Yes. They get angry because they don't understand why you said that. You know what I'm saying? It's not, you can't, you don't take offense to that because you look at them and say, wait, he just doesn't understand. Some of these people are stupid, right?
01:37:41 You know, the president will ask you, are you stupid? Are you stupid? Yeah. Things I don't like about them, but there's some things I like, right? You know, there's some things I fucking like, right? It's just, it's just, I've never seen anything like that. Are you stupid?
01:37:57 Yeah. Are you stupid? Like, in the middle of the fucking president? My God. He is funny. Yeah, he says some cool. He said some bullshit. He's crazy.
01:38:06 I don't know. Drink Lorox. Like, what the fuck? I was like, yo, who the fuck? Quaint. So how'd you get rid of the fear? Well, that's, it naturally is, it's uncomfortable for me to feel like that. So I started, you know, going towards it.
01:38:27 Going, you would. Going towards it instead of waiting into it. For something to happen, I was trying to try to. actually make it happen oh fuck so it didn't it changed it was like no no i'm just going because i was feeling like like like after you like you like you hit like that you oh shit like and nobody's off the street everybody's home so how does it work it you can't see a clear path to things working so i'm like if i kill you boy i'm going down as the guy who knocked you off and you had a high profile than me on the street level.
01:39:04 Yeah. So I'm just knock your ass off since I'm feeling like this. You see what I'm saying? Everything and my plans are wrong, so your shit is, I don't know what you're planning, but you shouldn't plan longer than me seeing. That's terrifying. I know you mean that. Yeah.
01:39:23 Yeah, you know, and that was really like the process that I went to and then. But look, it wasn't meant for me to do that because, the music just took off it just started working like the tapes it was a long shot bro like you got to even we couldn't
01:39:40 upload music to iTunes and YouTube and shit and get worldwide coverage yeah they were gatekeepers they were real gaykeepers couldn't get in it like universal like while the mixtape circuit
01:39:52 is the way for marketing like I had a guy around us they didn't understand it because usually when the bootlegers have an artist material they're losing money and it's hurting him. He punching the bootlegger in the face.
01:40:07 I'm like, you know, bro, knock the teeth out of the boy mouth. I'm going, no, you can't. That's promotion right there. I need them. Yeah. Because he was feeling like, nah, I thought he's losing money because he, you know, and I'm like, nigga, we don't even exist right now. We need that to happen.
01:40:26 Like, I'm putting the Columbia barcode on the back of it. To make it look at first. It's not even involved. You know, it's just the last label where I was connected. They stopped answering the phone. I put the logo, fuck with Columbia talking about it. I'm just, if they say don't do it, I'm doing it. When they stop answering the phone, because you were signed to them first,
01:40:44 was that you saying because you got blackballed or because they thought you weren't going to make it? Along with that. Oh, in addition to it. It's too much pressure. But they didn't feel like, oh, you know what, instead of dropping you, let me just shelf you and see if it happens. See, look. the next project the next that week because you already buzzed that week
01:41:04 I was supposed to shoot Doug Love as me and Beyonce the Doug Love song they'll offer that Power Dollar we were scheduled to do the video everything when I got shot I was going to the tattoo parlour you and Beyonce? Yeah they had a record too Hold on Yeah that was but my single was off that album
01:41:24 and um yeah I just didn't have the shot to do that because I got shot. This is how like when O'Boy is telling his crew that I'm coming? He already knew I'm coming? Already
01:41:43 advanced enough. This is what I'm telling you. This is being a student of the game and studying what's going on. And understanding, you know, he's going to be a big fucking problem when he does cut through. And this is you know, Jay, he's telling his people Yeah.
01:41:59 You need to put out as much shit as you can put out right now because it's just flooded because when you do come... Oh, fuck. When you come back, it's... We're cutting off the water for everybody else. Yeah, it's going to shut that shit down. All that other stuff is going on. It didn't get a fish.
01:42:14 I know you got guys like Ebro, right? Program director. Uh-huh. They're supposed to continue to play these guys' music. And he plays what's working the best. Mm-hmm. What's working the best is usually what the radio plays. Right? And he doesn't
01:42:30 participate or pull them those other artists records onto the air so they don't become peer. They don't have a hit why I have a hit and maybe we should do a song together. Like, you know what I'm saying? They didn't feel like that. So when I worked with people, I worked with like, I was a M.B. fan. I was M.O.P. fan.
01:42:50 So I picked them up. I knew that the business would tell you they're going to sell 500,000 pieces max. But? I'm saying, I could get a lot. them to sell more. Like, my audience will buy the record. And I could sell a million records for a mom deep album.
01:43:07 I can do that. Watch. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's different. Like, even the clips. Did you put out the Annie up? Nah, they just, they released that ahead of the records that made me fans. Yeah. But then did you go after MOP because I think Rockfellow was also trying to sign them at the same time?
01:43:24 No? No. Oh, okay. I never did that. Like, I never went after the artist and compete in, to have like the thing You went after the artist because you wanted to put out the music
01:43:33 Yeah like when Mace I wasn't trying to take him away from Puffy Like I wanted to make Jesus walks bro What the fuck You know what I'm saying Like I wanted you to make that redger Like I did God give me style
01:43:46 God give me grace But that was like look When you have the kind of success Get Richard Die Try and brought That's the first thing that came I was the first song I recorded It was all right the mask,
01:43:59 was to God give me style, God give me grace, and shit like that. And I went and I played it for my grandma. Oh, wow. It was the first rap record I had to do with my grandmother appropriate.
01:44:09 Yeah. Right, the rest of the shit, she would go out and buy the CD and wouldn't open the case. Because I was saying this wrong shit. Yeah. Fuck, I don't know what you're talking about. Right?
01:44:20 And she was so spiritual. Like, I grew up feeling like my grandfather was the strongest one in the house. My grandmother's faith was so strong. that even when the cancer shit comes that you don't notice oh wow she's going through the process
01:44:35 but because she prayed on it there is nothing to worry about and she's looking at you like why are you wearing but I see it shrinking wow the process that physically is changing her and I'm hurt by that but she just
01:44:48 it was just like some ill shit because it's like no she didn't even identify why I was feeling that way She has so much faith that doesn't bother her. That's it. You said your prayers, that's it. You pray or you worry, you don't do both.
01:45:03 Oof. If you were, you don't do both. If you were your higher power, would you answer your prayers if you saw you doubting? Nah, because those prayers aren't there. Right. You're doubting. Why should I answer your prayers? Did her faith give you faith?
01:45:21 That was the only one praying at that point in the early stages. You know, like, I'm not. mother, she was doing the praying for me. Are you spiritual? Yeah. Yeah? Like church, Godfaring? No, no, I don't.
01:45:34 I'm God-faring and I'm not in a regiment. You mean religious when you bring up the church? No, I'm not religious. You know, I'm spiritual. And I do believe in God and I have my own relationships. You know, you would. I've been in more situations where I need answers. And then who do you go to?
01:45:53 Higher power then. I bet you get to prayer when things get uncomfortable. right and then there's a even when the plane shake shit god you got to find Jesus this plane talking about
01:46:06 serious turgles you know what I'm saying like it's just it's just because you see so many images of that shit not going right you know
01:46:13 but you know if the plane go down don't worry about me I'm not going out like that I'm in somebody's pool I'm in with the fucking the whole seat
01:46:23 yeah if I hit the deep end you're good Yeah, bro. I'm telling you, I'm going to land somewhere. I don't know why I have that weird confidence, too, that if a plane's going down for some reason, I feel like I could jump out the right town and jump up.
01:46:39 I'm not supposed to go out like that. I'm not supposed to go out like that. You go to all the bullshit and they go out, like, because, like, people like me die from, like, hey, colds. Like, bullshit. Like, you know, natural causes. Go to sleep and die and shit. What happens is your time, bro?
01:46:55 Yeah. I always wondered. What brought on the line, Jay's line when he says, I'm about a dollar, what the fuck is 50 cent? Was that because of how to rob or did something else happen? It was it. Oh, it was just because how to rob? You said, whenever you tap at that point,
01:47:10 because I feel like that line made you say that. It is a big piece. And I was honored by it. Yeah. Because I went and started looking at it. When I seen him, I saw him before he said it. I was at Summer Jam when he said it. I didn't know.
01:47:26 how to rob was already out. Bro, I didn't know that many people know who the fuck 50 cent was. Me. Okay. Because there's no way to gauge it back then. There's no social media. There's no looking at blogs.
01:47:39 What are you saying? I'm wondering. Who the fuck is 50 cents? And they scream. I go, oh, shit. They know me. All right, bitch. I'll be back.
01:47:56 Yeah, you got me? That's one of those things with it, you know, like, That's why you look. Everybody needs somebody. Like, how do you leverage? Yeah. It's like wrestling.
01:48:09 You need a heel. Yeah, yeah. Can't be a baby face with it. Oh, you're just there all by yourself doing it. And it's like, you know, like even like, like, drink, that Kendrick thing was great for. Yeah. It didn't damage anything. Yeah, I feel like.
01:48:22 You come back. You see three albums selling like a fucking, like, yeah. I asked them. It's funny, but that Kendrick's control verse is like. that had a rap. That was like the modern day had a rap. Now he had, Kendrick is these guys are just
01:48:39 worlds apart, man, different animals, bro, like that. Kendrick, they've been having Kendrick in our culture, but it was Talib Kuali. Yeah. It was, it was most deaf. Like, those guys was what Kendrick offered.
01:48:54 Yeah, yeah. But, like, they, it lived in a culture. It was common sense. It's conscious. It was smart. sit down be humble who fuck says that bro you look at the culture what they say
01:49:07 you know cardie comes like my pussy awa what the shit you say you say everything distorted like every piece of
01:49:17 of life that wouldn't fit fits in the culture the descriptions fit in hip hop yeah it belongs here
01:49:25 like and this is what you know what people experiences when they're able to articulate it because you can't escape the love of it.
01:49:34 It's happening in all those places. It was a bridge when it keeps saying, oh, no, I'm not, he's white. Anything that expands a business or increases a consumer base is a bridge. It's a bridge. There's an iconic clip of you and Jim Carrey. Oh, yeah, that was Sundance.
01:49:54 Can you tell me what this was? Sundance. We was in Utah. And then we got to wrap this up. We're getting told. It was crazy Jim. You didn't understand. Okay.
01:50:04 First of all, how familiar with Jim are you at this point? I'm super familiar. Okay. Like, I'm like a comedian, he was not even human. Like, he'd be a whole other person. But is this, is this Ace Ventura, Jim Carrey? Is this the mask? Yes, man.
01:50:18 Okay, okay. To me, like, he's on top of the world. We can't fucking get nothing bigger than that. Yeah, yeah. At the time, and then, like, that's why I'm like, I don't go, fuck. Like, yeah, you can do what you want on my show. Say again? 2009.
01:50:31 It's 2009. Okay, so tell me, so he just goes, I want to come on stage with you, or does he just do it? Jess, come on. Okay, play this. He's going crazy. Yo, what the fuck?
01:50:55 He's the best, man. Oh, I've never seen this. Jim Carrey's the best. You just fucking dutty-wise. That is crazy. He didn't see that one. He can't hold it in 50s last. He can't be best of him up.
01:51:09 All right, we got to get out of 50. Before we leave, man, Street Fighter October 16th, anything you want to tell the people about this, about this massive movie that... Oh, this movie is a massive movie, bro. You know, I expected to do about 90 million, you know, and partly because of me. You better go watch this fucking movie, bro.
01:51:34 I'm counting on you now. I'm counting on you now. You know, you didn't expect me to be up. in there like dad look at this jar here yeah look at they only let michael be jaw and do shit like that yeah it's you and michael bha the top of the game oh shit man look at this and you know in advance man that Andrew got busy in this joint they're gonna get a chance to see him like in rare form bro oh respect and then like there was what's crazy is like the process because i'm i'm in love with this process, like watching this shit.
01:52:10 Like, I see things different now. I'll see the scenes. I'll see the effects what they had to fix on. What came in after, you know, but when you watch someone like in the character, like the actors, like, it's the most insecure
01:52:26 business to be in. Like actors, for every time they heard a yes, you got to imagine how many times they heard no. Right? And when they get really good, they can do everything five and six different ways. Yeah. So they have to have
01:52:42 communications with a director or someone that they can rely on that's going to give them the note or it's going to say that was it. Yeah, yeah. And okay, you can play now because we got it. We got it. Yeah. Right? And
01:52:57 and then they can wheel off into the other areas that they have to bring different things to the character and their performance. But if they don't get that if they don't make that communication, that connection between them and the director, they can get frustrated because they...
01:53:15 They're not getting the feedback they need. Five or six different ways in not registering. I did a joint with Mel Gibson. How is that? And he's like, how was that? How was that? And the guy was like, it's good. They're just going to change the ankles. And he was like,
01:53:32 it's fun to tell me it's good shit. I don't know when it's shit. I know when I get fucked. Hmm. Right? He said, because he wasn't telling him. Wow. He had a time.
01:53:43 He called him on it. Yeah, Mel is different. He said, no, it's shit. You think I don't know what I'm getting fucked? I know what I'm getting fucked. Damn. He said, look at me. You know, maybe we get him on the next.
01:54:02 This shit right here is not going to do it. But he was doing, what the fuck, man? These people are the most fun people to be around. in that tone and that mode, you know what I'm saying? I don't know what the fuck, man. Everybody, different shit. They say shit and then what's it, cancel culture? Well, I think what happens is you get to a certain size
01:54:24 and people are, like, afraid of you and they don't want to piss you off. And they give you a responsibility that you never ask for. And you're supposed to be doing something for the people all the time. If that's not in your... Like me, I like the entrepreneurship programs and stuff like that. out to Houston the way they treated it. Yeah. It was like, I'll do
01:54:44 that here. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, New York is a little different the way they, you know, registered things. Like, I know I don't even know the city council here. I know the mayor, like, you know, and the governor, you know, okay, Kathy, but not
01:55:01 the, like, who's this, who's on the city council? Yeah. I don't even know who the fuck they are, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we don't really connect to city politics. Yeah, yeah. It's different. Like, you know, and you're in the city, and you're like, when you come out, you still look, there's some things that they start bugging with. Like, you know, they start trying to tax people to the earning well.
01:55:27 They work to earn well, right? So if you specifically go there, and I mean, like, damn, I know you're doing the robberhood thing and shit, but then you're going to rob the hood? Why are you doing that, robin hood? Well, Al is a communist, so he knows that. When you say that, it feels like, you know, there's people out there that, like, yeah, yeah, take it from them because it's not from them. Yeah. But, you know, if you look at the businesses, the smaller businesses.
01:55:52 You got it. They're functioning. Like, when you go to the restaurants, they usually have four or five owners. They're there. Are those people who have a lot of money that are just making the investment for the social experience? And they bring their people there having meetings or when they're hanging out, shit like that. They go to that. They frequent that spot.
01:56:09 And bringing cool people makes the place cool. Yeah. Because people start to bring their people. Yeah. Right. You know, how that shit work. And then so if you run them out, you run a lot of the smaller ancillary business that goes on because they just build a lifestyle. Yeah.
01:56:24 Participating in those things. I heard you voted for Zohraimum, Tommy. You heard that? Yeah. Al, stop pulling sides on the podcast. I mean, a great episode. I'm a great story. Al, stop it.
01:56:37 Look, his nails are penned. I know. I know. I know. Whenever he did some shit. He voted for RuPaul. Just point out. October 16th Street Fighter, 50th set, everybody.
01:56:51 Yes. Going on vacation? We're here for it. With kids who turned the backseat into a courtroom drama over whose tabla is louder, whose charger is faster, and while watching the same cartoon
01:57:05 for the hundredth time is a human right? Yep. We totally have. have vehicles to handle that. Because whether it's a road trip or a business trip, where your flights delayed, your phone's at 2% and your dinner is, whatever is open? Yeah, here for that too. Enterprise.
01:57:22 We're here for it.
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