Are You A Charlotte? - Every party has a pooper! with Sean Palmer... (S5 E6 "Critical Condition")

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

Nina Katz way to ruin a good time! Kristin compares Nina Katz womp womp to negative comments on social media. We just pay too much attention to them. Plus Heather Graham plays Heather Graham! See... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pastos survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all?
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Starting point is 00:01:45 Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben, Stillard and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:02:11 podcasts. Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is our town, a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Hi, everybody. We are back for part two at Sean Palmer. We played Marcus, who was Stanford's boyfriend, and he and I are, going to rewatch Critical Condition, which is episode 506 aired August 25th, 2002.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Thanks for joining us. So this episode is called Critical Condition, written by Alexa Young, directed by Michael Patrick King. How fun. Always so much fun to have Michael directing. And this episode, I thought, was super fascinating, didn't remember much of it. So it was really, really interesting. And I did laugh numerous times at very unexpected.
Starting point is 00:03:37 moments. Cynthia made me laugh with that baby. Yeah. Couple times. I really love it. I forgot that we really did like such a kind of an in-depth story about her not being able to please
Starting point is 00:03:53 the baby and her neighbors. Oh my God. And Lizzie Hay Hardens in it. Lisa Gay. Lise Gay. Not Lisa Hamilton. Leis Gay Hamilton, who we know and we love. I totally forgot that she plays the neighbor. And I think it's so interesting that Moran doesn't know the neighbor's name and then the neighbor brings, I had forgotten the whole storyline
Starting point is 00:04:11 and I loved it so much. Yeah, I dipped in and was like, I forgot that this show goes to these places and does this. But they did really like, they put Miranda through hell, basically. I know, I know. It's not as much hell as actual motherhood, I will say, but it comes in the area of it, right? It was palatable. I do remember Michael being so panicked about having enough mother stories to write. Like he had to kind of like talk to people like, hey, we need, we need more, more stories about, you know, new mothers. Because we, none of us, you know, really, with the exception of Cynthia, but Cynthia was always like, it's fine. Like she was so, you know, Cynthia about it. She also did two Broadway shows at once.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Exactly. Exactly. She's like, I could do five shows at once. It's fine. Exactly. And I do think she could do five shows at once. She did us and Golden Age at the same time and tried to direct. This was really funny.
Starting point is 00:05:06 At a certain point, Malfi had to say, like, I'm really sorry, you cannot direct because you have this other television show and our television show. And she's like, what do you mean? You got a lover. You got to love her. Okay. Let's discuss Carrie for a second. What was your general thought on Carrie? Because I generally do not give weight to the Carrie haters out there.
Starting point is 00:05:26 But in this particular episode, I was like, oh, I see. I think when you watch the show in succession, if you were to sit and binge, you could find her very frustrating. If you do like you do in real life where you come back and you visit someone, so I watched critical condition, I took a few days, and then I just thought I'll watch all the other episodes that I was in as well, just so I can sort of refresh. And she was in such a different place from where I had seen the first episode
Starting point is 00:05:58 to where I saw her later on. And Sarah does it so beautifully, right? Yes. So she brings you into the pathos so well and you're so comfortable sitting in a seat next to the driver, right? Yeah. As opposed to being way outside of it. Right. And I think you're like, I don't really mind where she goes because I enjoy the process of seeing her work the problem out.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We like that. We like being on the computer doing it for the audience. But, you know, essentially I was thinking today, like it's an existential. It's a existential show because she's sitting there having these existential conversations about this stuff, are really about trying to get the most meaning and value out of her life and experience, not just in New York City, but as a woman, as a person, as a vital spirit, you know. Right, right. And so I think that actually is something I can tolerate a lot of just because she's so
Starting point is 00:06:48 brilliant at what she does. That's a good point. And the central question of this is how come one negative comment, which I think is, this is obviously before social media. So it's like so land so differently now, right? the central question is why can one negative comment take over our minds as opposed to all the positive things that people might have said and or thought about us, right? Because she's obsessed because this woman in the bathroom makes a face at her because she dated Aden after her,
Starting point is 00:07:17 which we'll get to in a second. But the central question, sometimes I don't remember the central questions. And then I'm like, they're so good. They're so good. I've got to think about this now in my own life, you know, now today in 2026, right? Because when I started this podcast, I'm new to podcasting. I thought, oh, I'm going to look at my comments. And then, like, one person was like, she's no podcaster. And I was like, what do they mean? What do they mean? Like, can anybody be a podcaster? Like, what does that mean? Oh, my gosh, what do I need to do? What do I mind you, all the rest were positive. But then I'm obsessed with that one. It's so true. It's a really, really fantastic question. So I'm always like, my jaw goes on the floor at the brilliance of the
Starting point is 00:08:01 writing and at Sarah's acting, as you're saying. She does really take you inside and she is going to mull it over and come out with some kind of an answer. And that does get you a long way with her. And the thing that interested me in this episode is basically all of us are reflecting back to her like, that's too far. Like Miranda has a real problem. But then there's also the scene she has with Samantha, which I'd fully forgotten about,
Starting point is 00:08:30 where she's basically saying to Samantha. Samantha, our friend Miranda is really struggling. Could you possibly acknowledge it? And then Samantha gives her a hair appointment and goes to babysit Brady. And it's adorable. It's so sweet. It's so unexpected as well. Fully shocking.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Like shocking. I was like, wait, wait, what's happening? I don't remember this. And then, of course, the chair breaks. And as a mother, I was like, oh, no, what's she going to do? She's going to go out on the street and get help? What's she going to do? But of course, she has her trusty new vibrator that she just bought.
Starting point is 00:09:01 at Radio Shack or wherever she is, it's all, it all works out, thank God. But it was interesting. And also, I do love when Miranda comes back. And Samantha's just cool as a cucumber. She's just so cool. Like, of course it was fine. I'm like, oh, it's good. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But it's interesting how Carrie can see, she can see with Samantha and Miranda that Samantha's not, you know, acknowledging where Miranda's at and kind of like blowing it off. But yet she continues to discuss the fact. that this woman made a face of her in the bathroom in the face of everyone else's problems. Yep. And I love how Stanford deals with it when they're at the farmer's market, because I'd totally forgotten about that too. He literally says, what do you think of Marcus?
Starting point is 00:09:46 And she says, fine or cute. What does she say? I can't remember what she says. Something. One word. I think it's like fine. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And he's just like, and I love how Willie did it because he doesn't go overboard, right? He's just like, no, that is too much. I have been here listening to you for 18 blocks, but also two years talking about Aden, you know, which is true. And also, this is the viewer's experience, right? So it's like super meta. Michael gets meta in this season, like with the book party also, because the book party is a lot like our premier parties.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yep. You know, and then there's exactly like it. Right? Like felt like the same type of space exactly as well. Didn't it? Didn't it? Didn't it? I agree totally.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And it was so a little. bit tamer, I would say, that our premier parties, which were like cluster fucks. But, you know, it was a lot, right? Like the Met Museum, that one was. Yes. Oh, my God. So huge. I mean, they were wonderful, but like it felt like it took days to recover. But yet we had to get up in the morning and go work. You know what I mean? Just from the energetics of it. Yeah, I'm with you. You know, it was a lot. It was a lot. But yeah, I like the meterness, because I feel like all of us are going through the experience of the show's success. And when we can kind of incorporate, also, like, we know that the critics are saying, oh, you know, Carrie talks too much about
Starting point is 00:11:09 herself. Carrie, you know, whatever, sits in her feelings, whatever, blah, blah, blah. So he writes it in. Like, it's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And it's beautiful. But I think that's the interesting thing is watching the show now after all this time. There's another show that I do this with, which is absolutely fabulous. I like going back and like seeing how it changes, like, with the scope of how everything changed. That was really the case here because I think like all of those all of those things I remember them saying it now that you're telling me but when I watched it this new time with like new fresh eyes I was like it was so her performance is so honest and when you see Nina's whole thing like now the way we've gone through the world with bullying and like
Starting point is 00:11:50 me too and all these different things like it all sits a little differently. That's true. Yeah. And I had more compassion for everybody. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I was sort of like, well, I can see why Nina ended up being the way she is because we all know those people in the business are trying to hold on to their stake. And like, you know, they've got to have the good gossip. They've got to show up and know everything and whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So she's in a little bit of a bind for being that kind of person. She's hanging out with Heather Graham for heaven's sake. I know. I love Heather so much. Heather's our neighbor. I didn't know I was in an episode with Heather Graham. I know. She's so.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The thing that I love. about Heather is that, you know, she's been in the industry forever. She's been in huge movies like Boogie Nights, right? But her personal vibe is so relaxed and chill. But at the same time, she's so incredibly beautiful. It's this very interesting and it's so perfectly encapsulated in that scene she does. Like she's just hanging out with the Booker from Saturday Night Live makes perfect sense. But then she's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Comfortable in a tube top. Totally. In a tube top looking like just a dream. a 90s slash 2000's dream, right? Her hair is super straight. And then she goes off with Stanford to get a pretzel. So completely believable. But also then she's like dancing with a pretzel when she goes back to, like, it's so
Starting point is 00:13:10 Heather and so beautiful. And she's such a lovely person. And I remember she was so excited. She's already been on the podcast. She was so excited to just do that tiny thing. Like what a sweetheart, you know? Yeah. Such a sweet.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It was such a big deal. And I remember like being like, oh. Oh, yeah. This was like, and I start to remember like conversations around it and stuff like, Heather Graham's going to be on sex. You know. Totally. Yeah. I remember too. But also like it's just very unique that people would be so generous, you know, to just come and do a tiny thing like that. Like so generous. Yeah, but you guys, you'd built up so much merit. I mean, you know, it's the same thing that happened with the designers from early on, right? Like the show got a little bit of merit and all of a sudden everybody's like, well, yes, please. And I think that's the same thing with
Starting point is 00:13:56 The actors, it was like the show reflected New York really beautifully. It did great things for women in conversation. Like, you guys were not just a topic because you're pretty and successful and whatever. It was about the things that were coming out of your mouth and the kinds of topics and how sharp they were and how relevant they were. So all of a sudden, that's real merit where everybody is like, yes, of course I'd love to appear at that. I think the bear is like that now. You know, it's like everyone's like, oh, yeah, that's an important conversation. I would love to be a part of that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And I feel like Sex and the City was very much that at the time. Yeah. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month.
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Starting point is 00:19:38 or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. your podcasts see you between the pages i'd totally forgotten that that carrie feels all judged by the fact that that this girl makes a face about her um in the bathroom and then i did feel towards the end i hadn't remembered that carrie really really like makes this like deep kind of plea for herself you know that breakups are horrible and that she never would have heard aiden on purpose and and
Starting point is 00:20:22 And then Nina slash Nadia, who played her, just goes like, okay, which is kind of funny. Like, I felt watching her that she's like, okay, this is also going to be a good story. That's what I thought she was thinking. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's very awkward that bit. And I remember thinking that it was so brave of her at the food market out. You know, we've all been in those situations in New York City where you're like, do I dare say this?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Because people can overhear you everywhere in New York site. And she goes ahead and does this. thing that you wouldn't normally do in that, first of all, professional setting or with another woman who, you know, like, there's so many reasons why you shouldn't do that. I would never do this. And I sort of love that she just like, she's like, no, I am, I'm actually going to say the real thing, the honest thing. Yeah. And I do think that's what we get out of her all the time, like for as much pathos and trouble. She basically, she's the kind of person who puts obstacles in her way and then falls over and then it's like, shit, how did I fall over that? But in a way, it's because the discovery is so
Starting point is 00:21:22 worth it in the end. Like when she does finally have that moment, you're like, oh, well, she's willing to go deeper and more honest than probably anybody. That's so true. In her writing, right? It's like when she's with the Britschnerchhoff character, sorry, the name slip me, but that when they're talking about what she does for a living and she's like, oh, I write an article and whatever, and they're all kind of dismissive of it. But the fact is, Carrie is using like, like humble words to say really deep things about relationships and experience and how we're taking on experience. And I think that is what is precious about the show because it's like it wraps it in candy wrapping, but it's not really candy. Yes, that is so well put. That's so well put.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And I think also like just the fact that Carrie and thus the show, they're taking an idea and she's turning it over and turning it over and turning it over and turning it over. And that's why she keeps repeating her self to the friends, right? And in this particular episode, we're not very helpful, which, you know, I think it's also interesting because you're not, you can't always be, you know, super in tune to whatever, you know, level she's on or whatever it is, right? And I'm going through my divorce or whatever, you know, you know what I'm saying, like everyone's got stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But she's going to turn it over, turn it over, turn it over, turn it over in her deep way, which we can get into because of the writing. And then there is always some kind of, she, she has the strength and the kind of wisdom to put it out to whoever it is. She acts on. So if you like to think of it, like she does the articles and everybody like, let's say, we're in a world of infotainment, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:03 People go on the internet and like to learn a lot of things, but we don't integrate it into our bodies. True. That's an example of Carrie literally doing something like, oh, I'm writing about this, but now I need to like walk the walk. And I really think that's, you find that over and over in the show. But the other beautiful thing is as she's turning the problem over, the central question over, is that a facet of it applies to each one of her friends.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So that you guys are all sort of one great big being where, you know, there's these different facets to think about and stuff. And I think that, like, as the viewer sitting there, just helps you get so deep into the experience. Definitely. It could have been fluff. Of course. It could have been fluff. And it just didn't turn out that way. Definitely, thank God.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But that's Michael Patrick and all of our writers. You know what I'm saying? Just keeping that depth going, you know, and then we have the shoes on top of it. You know what I'm saying? Right? I mean, if you started out of those costumes and shoes.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I mean, everything was amazing. I know, it was. It was a whole other, it was almost like two worlds simultaneously happening. You know what I'm saying? Like I had a friend whose mom was a painter and she came to one of our, are, oh no, I think, anyway, I was at a play with her.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And she said to me, she's older, and she said to me, I really like your show, but I don't know why. And I was like, okay, that's cool, whatever. And she goes, I think it's the colors. And I said, sure. Yes, yes, you're a painter. I get that because it was very visually stimulating, you know, and beautiful. The textures and, you know, I also have to say, like, you, you watch a couple episodes and all of a sudden hair is different.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Like, I was so fascinated this time watching it to see how everybody's hair changed in one season. I'm like, wait a minute, is this the same season? Oh, it's so true. It's so true. It's really lovely because obviously, as a woman, you're going and like basically getting to flip through like an L, basically. See all these beautiful clothes.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, definitely. Definitely. That's true. That's very true. I mean, it did correct me up the Miranda storyline because she's trying to make her hair look bad so that then when she does get Samantha's hair appointment, it could then look better. But I was like, man, what did we do to Cynthia's hair?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Because then she wants to, like, fake brush it in the mirror and she can't get the brush through it. Because I think they had to, like, tease it and spray it to make it like that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, they really went far with that. I was like, whoa, okay, really far. Cynthia's commitment. I love it.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Totally. She has no vanity. It's like, yeah, no vanity. It's so true. And I think she's not wearing makeup. Like she, she, she. But I love it. I love the commitment. And I love the fact that like it really does.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like having a baby. Oh my God. Like you don't have time for a shower. You know what I mean? When people are like, oh yeah. And then you take shower when you were talking about meditating. I was like, oh, one day my son's not going to wake me up at six. And I could just get up and meditate.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I don't know when that will be. But it will happen. It will happen. And he's eight years old. You know what I mean? Like you just lose all the things. It's only 10 years away, Kristen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 No, don't say that. Well, this is what happens. The teen years come because my daughter's just turned 15. They only want to sleep. It's like a very interesting. It just suddenly happens. And you're like, okay, so I'm like, that will happen to him. I don't know when.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It will, it will come. It will come. And then I will get to sleep. I can't wait. Miranda, love it, love it, love it. Because one of the things we had just seen was at the end of the episode where the plus one, one, which I think is the book, right? The book party.
Starting point is 00:26:38 plus one is the loneliness number. And at the end of that episode, we see Miranda kind of with Brady in the most beautiful way where you're kind of feeling like she's surrendering to motherhood really in a way for the first time, you know, like beautifully with him. It's so, so beautifully filmed and acted, of course. So it's interesting now that now we're in like the, you know, when like the whole thing of like, what are you trying to tell me? I remember this as a new mom.
Starting point is 00:27:06 so, so vividly, because you just are like, what is it? Like, what is it? Because they don't have any way to communicate except for crying. It is bizarre. And you really want to please them. You're like anything, I would do anything. Like, is it jumping up and down for me? Is it singing?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like, what is it be? You're trying everything and you just can't figure it out because you can't read their mind. So I thought it was really brilliant, brilliantly acted, brilliantly written. And I'm sure we put that baby through a lot together. get all the different things. I had the baby at one point and they had used a branch to like put some lovely shadows and the branch fell on the baby. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That was in the Hamptons. Oh, my God. The Hamptons, the fake Hamptons, which I believe was New Jersey. New Jersey, I pretty sure. Yes, yes. Did the baby cry? No, the baby was like not phased at all. I was completely phased because, you know, the parents were like just off.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yes. Like, off camera. And so I was like, oh my God, like I had nothing to do with that. That's so scary. Oh my God, that's so scary. That's so scary. I remember that because it was very, very hot when we go to the fake Hamptons. It was like 100 degrees all night long.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You guys always call it the fake Hamptons. I love that. We do. We do. Because it looks beautiful, but I remember that it wasn't quite that beautiful. But we made it look beautiful. That's the thing. I'm always like, it doesn't look quiet look like that.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I haven't rewatched yet. I probably will think the same thing. I mean, we just couldn't. afford it. We couldn't afford it, you know? Yeah. It was a lot to go out there. It was the heyday, man. I mean, I'm sure it still is, but like, wow. It was, it was a lot back then. I remember, like, there were almost no hotels. Like, now there's like six or seven hotels, which is, thank God. Because, like, if you got invited, you were just like, oh, Jesus, what am I going to do? Who am I going to call? Which house am I going to sleep on the couch? Anyway, I digress. Miranda, Miranda loved it so much. I totally forgotten about Lisa Gay. It's so cute to see. see her. She's longtime old friends of Cynthia's. I knew she was on the show, but I could never remember what. Like it's, it's, and then like, why? Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. There's people popping up all the time in the show that you're like, oh, wait, I just didn't. Yeah, incredible people. But also, like, when Miranda is leaving with the baby in the bassinet, why are all the neighbors standing in the
Starting point is 00:29:25 lobby like that? Isn't it all the mothers? But why? It's because they all have a gathering and she's not part of it. Oh, that's so sad. But they have a gathering in the lobby. that's so odd. No? I mean, it is, but it does make the point, right? It definitely makes the point. But maybe we went a little overboard, I thought. The lobby stairs are some of the worst.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Totally, totally, totally. And also, like, no one helps her with the door. I thought that was harsh, man. Those moms would have been over there helping with the door. But then Lisa Gay brings the vibrating chair, whatever, oscillating chair, which I bought one of those for my daughter. My daughter hated it. I have all these really funny pictures over in it,
Starting point is 00:30:02 like frowning. scowling at me. And I was like, no, no, it's supposed to be wonderful. You know, no, no, Jemmel's not having it, not having it at all. I had to take her out of that thing. Okay, wait, did we, did we, and I, again, that with the Samantha, it's such a sweet, incredibly sweet thing that she does. And she does it so cutely when she comes over to Miranda's and is just like so like, yes, of course, go to my hair point. And then takes the baby. I was scared. But it all works out. I know. There's a lot of apprehension in that scene. But I think it's another person that, you know, it's not an easy role that she had.
Starting point is 00:30:40 No. And she does it so well to bring nuance to something that could have just been completely one note. No, it's true. And then all of a sudden you get something like that. And it's like there's real comedy in it. There's like terrific timing. Definitely. There's nuance.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It just actually feels very satisfying to see Samantha in that because of the way. It really, yeah. It's so satisfied. behind every night spent making the kids lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pesto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.za for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:38 On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or a real show you. wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for-you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought
Starting point is 00:33:50 daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.
Starting point is 00:34:35 at your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests
Starting point is 00:35:00 like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape of this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I would never expect. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen. I am open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's just a state. Everyone's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And fake. Right, fake. and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life, I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:15 Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the scene with Carrie where like Carrie says to her, like you're really not, you know, acknowledging where she's at. And you can't quite tell what Samantha's going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:40 So then it's really, really satisfying how she does it. And that she does it, obviously, but how she does it. Because she's so easy about it, you know? Yeah. And she's like, I also don't want to talk about it because I'll change my mind. Exactly. Exactly. It's adorable.
Starting point is 00:36:54 But I'm just. Yeah, it's great. But I'm not really. It's so great. It's so, so great. Anyway, this was really fun. And I am just so happy that I got you. And thank you so much for calling me all the way from Ireland.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Because people are like, you have to get Sean. So we got you. Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. It's an honor. I wish you had been in the movies with us. Oh, me too. But I'm on the paper.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm on the guest list. We are going to investigate that. Thank you for giving me that tip because I didn't know that. And now we have to get to the bottom of it. And I want to know who said that we couldn't have your wedding. I'm going to find out. I also have to mention that Michael was in two episodes that I watched. He was on a book cover at the book launch.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He was. He's on one of the book. the book covers. No way. And he's the person in the David Dukovney episode that escapes the looney bin. Oh my God. I do remember that. I do remember that. And he's like, he's almost acrobatic. He is like flipping himself up. I'm like, I don't even at the prime of my dancer career, don't know if I could do the things that Michael was doing on that long. Oh, I can't wait. I haven't rewatch that one yet. But I do remember that he was in that. I think at that point we were just like, I think we knew we were going to end the show, right? So it was fun for everyone to just do silly things.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You know what I mean? Yeah. It was beautiful, though. It was just like, because it was obviously when you're on the show every day, there's such like crazy things happening one after the other, right? It's a TV show. So everything has to be a bit crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And they're just one after the other. And eventually you're just like, oh, it's a madhouse. Let's just do it. Let's go for it. Totally. Totally. Yeah, I can't wait to rewatch that one because I have no memory of it, no memory. Which is, it's so much fun to watch because I'm like, I have no idea what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I have no idea what anyone's going to do. It's really cool. I do remember off stage. You know, yeah, it's fresh eye. But like I remember us all sitting around with Bershnikoff at that very, very long, beautiful dinner party. I remember that, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I had one line, piano man. And you know, that I think, I have to ask Michael Patrick, but Cynthia is a Billy Joel fanatic. And was, well, I felt she would make us listen to Billy Joel almost every day in the makeup trailer unless it was a gypsy Role. The old recording of Gypsy Rosley, what is that musical called? Oh, the gypsy, the musical. Gypsy, thank you very much. Yeah, it was either that or Billy Joel, right? Those were her two favorites.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So you were just like, okay, okay. And we all got pretty sick of Billy Joel. No offense to Billy Joel. But I'm pretty sure that was why that was in there. Because also it was very, obviously, very funny that, of course, he's like, no. No, I do not play Billy Joel. I just remember I was watching that scene and I was sort of like there's a lot of really famous people at this table. No one's saying anything, but I have to say piano man.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Why was that so critical? I think it was great. It was great because you have to say something and you say it so well. But I also think it is you're almost like the character in being there. You know, there's like a quality of you that is unusual and you're in this beautiful body and face. So it's super interesting where like we want more. You know, we're like what's going on with him? It's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And also it's so nice that Stanford's Whit. Like it's a good. It's a good combo. It really works. Yeah. He was the loveliest man. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:22 You're a joy. Thank you, Kristen. Have a wonderful night. And you too when you get to it. Thank you. Thank you so much for being with us. Thanks for having me. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality.
Starting point is 00:40:41 of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita,
Starting point is 00:41:01 trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
Starting point is 00:41:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time,
Starting point is 00:41:59 and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stillard, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America, plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is Our Town,
Starting point is 00:42:31 a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'm Munga Chitigler, and I'm back with a new season of my podcast, Skyline Drive. This time I talk to scientists, biopunks, kermudgens, blues owners, super seniors, and Goa's top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us. And I get into a bit of trouble along the way. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. To make it look more defined.
Starting point is 00:43:13 They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the I, Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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