Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 127: Flip Flop Mode Squad, with Narcy

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by Canadian rapper and professor Narcy to award AOC supporters the prestigious Fell For It Again Award, to call for an end to rapper-style abbreviations of politicians' names, and to consider the plight of Canadian IDF soldiers too scared to order their usual Teen Burger at root beer-branded meat sandwich purveyor A&W.Please donate to Gaza City Flour Fund: http://bit.ly/gazaflourfundGet All Narcy's links at his bio here: https://www.instagram.com/narcynarce/Get your tickets for Bad Hasbara Live in NYC, they're almost sold out!October 10: https://bhnyc1.eventbrite.comOctober 11: https://bhnyc2.eventbrite.comStandup Comedy October 13 with Matt Lieb, Francesca Fiorentini and Daniel Maté: https://www.ticketmaster.com/francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-lieb-brooklyn-new-york-10-13-2025/event/300062E2C3694548See Francesca Fiorentini and Matt Lieb!August 1 in Seattle, WA: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/comedians-francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-lieb-tickets-1354093864199August 28 in Houston, TX: https://bit.ly/mattfranhtxSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraWhat’s The Spin playlist: https://spoti.fi/4kjO9tLSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://spoti.fi/3HgpxDmApple Podcasts https://apple.co/4kizajtSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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All of garden us White costs for us Zavra Hamas Hasvara suss And welcome to Bad Hasbara. The world's most moral podcast playing the theme song without looking at the keyboard. That was really impressive. You figured that out.

I feel like in the last 30 minutes you were able to do that. 30 seconds. Was it 30 seconds? Well, no, I prepped a little. I saw you practicing. I'm sorry to ruin the illusion. but that's still, you were learning to do it backwards. I was, and exactly.

And it was very good. My name is Matt Leeb. I will be your most moral co-host for this podcast. I'm Daniel Mante. You're the most moral co-host hanging out in my parents' piano room. Oh. On the piano, I grew up playing. Wow, I love that.

You guys got a piano room. Well, it's a multi-purpose room, let's say. Oh, you got other, what is the other purpose of the room? I guess there's like a dining table. that we don't use they don't use much and there's a television and a couch and a lot of knickknacks and some of my mom's art on the walls this is a lot of things it's very sweet it looks very nice uh and listen i am so stoked for you to be with your lovely family i'm here uh all alone at my apartment uh here in los angeles that's because my daughter's at daycare and my wife is

looking at new, new daycares or new, like, early childhood education centers or whatnot. Our child is growing up, is going to start going to, you know, school kind of. Yeah, so that's a lot of fun. Time to get socialized. Yeah, finally, you know. You should be, I think she's old enough now. You should be par-socializing her. I'm trying to.

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You get the opportunity to buy tickets before everyone else gets to buy tickets. And now some people are like, well, listen, how is that great? I mean, you know, it's just buying, it's just, oh, I get to buy earlier. Well, we are going to be at, like I said, gutter, October 10th and 11th, first ever official whole cast Bad Hasbara live podcast. It's like the Wu-Tang Clan's final tour, except it's our first. That's right. And it's not a tour. It's just a couple of shows.

That's right. Maybe it's the start of something. we will come to a town near you until they're right all right the gutter it's just it exactly it's just the gutter and uh you know we put out the tickets on sale uh late last week and uh by the time you're listening to this episode uh i think they have already sold out now we didn't know that that was going to happen with just the patreon link we of course there are people you know who were able to buy it you know without the patreon link um but a lot more than we thought were to get tickets who live in New York and some people even are flying out to the show.

So don't ever miss a chance to see Bad Haspar alive again because the tickets went on sale on Patreon first. And we don't know for sure that it's sold out yet. We don't. That's a good point. But I was just looking at it and I'm like, if it, I feel like, listen, we don't know if it's heading there. It's heading there.

It seems like by the time this episode comes out to the free feed, it will be sold out. if that's the case, many apologies, but that doesn't mean you don't get to see Daniel and I performing in New York in mid to early October because we're also doing another show. So it's October 10th and 11th in Brooklyn at the gutter and then October 13th at the Bell House in Brooklyn. Which is not a bad Hasbara show. It's not a live podcast. Not officially. No, no. Well, what it is is not a live podcast. It is a stand-up comedy show. I will be there.

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We need to be doing a residency at the Beacon Theater. I know. I know. So, yes, please buy your tickets if you can. You definitely can to the bell house. That's going to be a great show. And you might even be able to get more tickets to the gutter should we decide to add a show. We don't know if we're going to do that.

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given directly to hungry families. Please donate now, bit.ly slash gaza flower fund. Do that, please, before you purchase any tickets or exclusive episodes of this podcast because that's more of a worthy cause than listening to us do, you know, jokes about penis, you know. And we mostly do penis jokes. Yeah, and I think at some point, and we've discussed this, we haven't decided on a date yet, I think we're going to do a full fundraiser episode for Gaza City Flower Fund. We're going to figure out what day we're doing that, and that'll be a live stream,

and we'll try to get people to donate as much as they can for as long as the stream goes on. And yeah, well, so keep an ear out for that. Daniel, homie, what's this been? well so i told you about the the free store last episode you did on on our last week's patron episode insane communist type of canada thing where you go into a store and you do you do bartering it's crazy not even bartering you just pick shit off the shelf because people left shit on the shelf for free this is up on a tiny gulf island in british columbia where which is a kind of alternative it's like a society in other ways you've created a it's like a store that's

essentially they take a penny leave a penny jar exactly that's crazy instead of pennies it's lps so i got some just ridiculous shit here nice it'll be funny to see if any of this is on spotify for our friend to add to the playlist that's right the four preps on campus which looks like some kind of a cappella group described yeah it's like the four freshmen but uh an updated version of it yeah but like more douchey yeah yeah yeah it doesn't take an a student to know that the four preps are a top singing group. Their many hits make that point. But until now, their humor has been strictly off the record.

Not so any longer, for here the preps' efforts are divided between fine singing and freewheeling comedy, and they graduate Sama Cum Laude in both departments. Oh, all right. You know, I've always wondered, it's just weird to me an album that has, like, a blurb on it, you know, why you should buy this album. They all used to, but they all used to, man.

In that era, it was all this kind of like, there's like a thesis statement. Yeah, here's what this is about, you know. Someone should do that. So, yeah. Yeah, Tyler, the creator dropped an album today. I'd love to see a, he would write a great blurb for himself. He's hilarious. Walt Disney's Johnny Appleseed.

Huh. Okay. Which includes the hit says, The Lord is Good. You know I'm going to be sampling this shit. Oh, yeah, definitely. You're going to use your sampler. How I'm Mortal Technique sampled Pinocchio, I got no strings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I think this is a similar vibe. Yeah, I bet there's something racist on there. I hope so. It's not song of the south, but I hope I can find something. Yeah, it'll be something. Vivian Lee reads the tale of Jemima Puddle Duck. See, I just, I know that's going to be racist too, but I do want to kind of hear the tale of Jamima Puddle Duck.

Fuck that. I'm going to the deep cut, the B-side, the tale of Mrs. Tiggie Winkle. Wow. And then finally, most offensively, but I'm sure I can find some ironic content on here to sample, Montevani playing the theme from Exodus. All right. Okay. I like it.

Also has a theme from a summer place and I love Paris and the sound of music. But, you know, it's that this land is mine. God gave this land to me vibe. Hell yeah. On the Montevani violin that is really, really attracting me. so I like it. I'll tell you what I find. I've still never seen Exodus.

We need to do a bad Hasborough watch at the show for sure. Yeah, bad Colnoa version of, yeah, that we need to. Especially, they brought it up in the like, I think second or first season of Mad Men and we talked about it. There was, yeah, but I was like, I need to see this goddamn movie because, I mean, Mad Men did a whole episode about it. That's right. So that's what's spinning in the world. of Daniel, and Daniel likes to spin. Speaking of spinning, we have a guest

who does music, who spins many records. He causes others to spin records. That's right. In fact, I have some of one of the tracks. Daniel, should I play it now? Yeah, let's play it before we bring him on. And then we'll ask him about it. So this is a new track, unreleased, as of yet.

This is an exclusive. Oh, Bad Hasbarra drop all the air horns. Hold on. Do I have an air horn? You're emotionally damaged. I really got to update this. Hold on, maybe this is the air horn. Nope, that's not it.

No, hold on. No, I do not have it. I'll get an air horn going at some point, but for now, this is our air horn. I want you to come. That's great. And we're all going to come as we listen to a verse. from our guest's new track main character energy

Let's drop it The red or blue pill Mr. Vichai I will keep it real One time for Philistine Fuck Israel Buddha bring them horns Like Israel

Anti-hero Independent is ordeal They say the West is the best But that is not real You can't clip my real Paint Arabs as your enemy anti-hero Main character energy It's not an anthem, it's a spiritual battle

How could I care for beef when they kill us like cattle I won't slap them in the mouth like their uncle, you cowards You're an inside job like two crumbling towers Your life is in a movie I'm anti-beiro I fear no man, I'm the anti-hero You pick Ah

That is great Fire bars from our guest. I love it. Yeah, you can fade that out. Yeah. So that's fire, fire lyrics from our guest. Live from Montreal, Quebec, the multimedia artist, rapper, and professor, it turns out. Of hip-hop at Concordia University, please welcome to the show, Narsi, aka Yassine.

Welcome, sir. Hey guys, how you doing? I'm good, you? How are you doing? I'm doing good, man. That was fire, as the kids say, that slapped. Do you kids still say slapped? I don't know if they still say.

I don't think you can slap anything anymore. Oh, man, nothing's ever since woke took over. You can't even slap. No physical contact. Yeah, everyone's still on Zoom. No one's slap at anything. That was amazing. That's incredible.

Thank you, man. Thank you. Inside job, like two crumbling towers. Come on. I mean, listen, the time's called for an anti-hero. We need somebody that's, you know, we don't need Superman. We need something else. That's right.

Tell us about the project. What's the, is it an album? What are you releasing soon? And, yeah, what's the vibe? Yeah, on the 25th, we have an album called No Smoking Aloud coming out with a producer from our show by the name of Buda Blaze. He did all the beats on the record. Buddha was actually, you know,

Integral in my career. He was my DJ for a long time. Then he connected me with a tribe called Red. And we did the thing with Yassine. So he's like, that's where I first, that's where I first heard you on, on the RED track. And I, and I saw you perform it live with Tribe Called Red in Brooklyn. Oh, shit. Really? Oh, shit. And we could have met. We could have met that day, but we did it. We chose not to. So yeah, no smoking allowed. It's out on vinyl right now through my bookshop and stuff. You can get it there. And then we're going to figure out where to put it online since it's all. D.E. ESP owners are fucking war mongers. You've got to figure out where to release the music digitally. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's not there's, I mean, I remember when title came out. Yeah. But I mean, that's Jay-Z, so let's not even get into that. I don't want Rockney.

You know Rock Nation controls the world. I'm not trying to get in trouble. Yeah, right. I remember thinking like, oh, good, finally a competitor. And then, you know, now I'm just like, you know, I just don't know. Can someone normal make a streaming platform for music, please? What did Yassine Bay say in his version of Jay-Z's takeover? It was called the Rapeover.

He said, what, six-foot Israelis are running this rap shit. Talking about Leorco. Tall, white Israelis. Tall-white Israelis is what he actually said, yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah, so I mean, you know, maybe drop, you know, we start dropping it on physical product, but there's got to be, we just need to bring back lime wire and shit. that, the free music shit, that Metallica care.

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Lars. Thanks, guys. Napster. You're a Danish douchebag. Yassine, you're a, you're Iraqi Canadian, yes? Yes, I am.

So how did you, how did? But I identify as Sumerian, just to let you know, I identify as a Sumerian. Yeah, yeah, just let you guys know. I love that. Yeah. But a respect. Wasn't Gozer the Gozerian Sumerian as well? Possibly.

I've never met them, but. Well, yeah. if he's goes so what he's doing I'll tell you Narsi he is doing a Ghostbusters

two Ghostbusters 2 or Ghostbusters 1? Yeah Ghostbusters 1 reference Which he does Oh shit oh Okay well see I saw Ghostbusters 2 But I'm a

I saw Ghostbusters 1 But I'm a Ghostbusters 2 guy I'm an 80s guy So you know Yeah That's what hit me I got hit with It was written before I got hit with Illmatic

So I got hit with Ghostbusters 2 Before Ghostbusters 1 You know Wow Same, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Ghostbusters.

I also got hit with a Weekend at Bernie's 2 before I saw Weekend at Bernie's 1. I never knew there was a 2. That's crazy. When I saw, okay, so in Weekend and Bernie's 2, Bernie, he gets up and walks on his own through voodoo magic whenever he hears a steel drum. Is this for real? A 100% serious. So when I saw Weekend at Bernie's 1 and saw there was no. no voodoo magic in it? I said, well, what's the point of this?

Why would I watch this movie? Why am I watching this movie if it's not co-opting Haitian culture? Exactly. Okay, so you identify as Samarian. How does a Samarian kid born in Montreal? No, I was raised in Montreal, but I was born in Dubai. Born in Dubai? Okay. How does he find himself in the Montreal hip-hop scene? And how does that dovetail with, clash with, or what's the confluence of that with your activism and speaking out publicly about things like what we're

going to talk about today. Yeah, I mean, I moved back to Montreal end of 2000, I mean, end of 1999, first year 2000. So like, you know, I hate university when I was 18 and 2000, 2001, 9-11 happened. I was rapping with my boys already. And then, you know, it just my career kind of, my career path took off. And in a way, I was studying during the day. And then, a recording at Concordia at night, you know? You were there at the same time as my brother, yeah? Yeah, I was there when Aaron was there. So, like, you know, that whole group of people were who I was surrounded by.

And obviously, I woke up to a lot of things and educated myself on so much, you know, from stuff like the PNAC to conspiracy theories to like Day of Judgment, Islam stuff, to all the political stuff I studied. Everything you need to lace... To lace bars with. Exactly. So all that shit was going into my music. And then when America went to war with Saddam, I will say,

you know, my career just kind of became a mission more than like a commercial quest. It became like a cultural. I became an ambassador within hip hop for my community. There aren't many Iraqi emcees, right? So it just kind of took off from there, started meeting people and navigating independently. through the industry in the States and Europe and here I am 20 years later, man. And this is kind of an inside hockey question.

I mean, I don't know if non-Canadians will be interested in this, but how did that... Well, I'm already thrown off. Yes. This is sort of an inside curling question. There's only baseball. You can only get inside one sport. What did that do for your chances of being, say,

covered by, you know, hip national media, like whatever, CBC FM, like, you know, because there were Canadian rappers like Chaos and Canaan and... Yeah. And, and was it, Shad, who... Chad. Shad. Chad, yeah, Shad, yeah, who were getting a fair amount of play,

and they had like some social commentary, but I'm guessing it wasn't quite as strident as what you were putting out there. Did you get covered by mainstream Canadian culture media? I mean, yeah, and the beginning of my career was more like, oh, look at these young Iraq. that are doing peaceful things compared to their people back home. So it was, and we were very much aware of the kind of coverage that was that we were getting differently to our peers in the city.

Obviously, like, top line news media was covering us at a very young age, and we had to develop an awareness and like a media training that we did through our education and in comm studies on how to speak to these people and how to get the message through. it wasn't really like hip hop or music press that was covering us at the time and still till this day in my career and then you know they started asking me to write like op eds for CNN and huffington post and all these different faces i started writing for as an iraqi voice to get our perspective through as a nuanced perspective and not like this black and white thing right but then um i went through like a very personal loss and i delve deeper into the music as opposed to just the political mission, and that's when I started getting more hip hop coverage for my work was when I, the message was still there, but it wasn't at the forefront of the imagery and the visuals that were coming out, right? So, yeah, I mean, I've always been independent, and you can imagine, like, it's nothing

new for us to face any public scrutiny for our work or even just be ignored and not covered. That's always been a part of their journey, you know? Yeah. Have you found any, you know, recent pushback? I mean, right now in terms of artists speaking out publicly were at a very interesting point where you're seeing essentially people having their entire, you know, brand and bands and, you know, whatever their act is, being promoted by people who are trying to take them down, like Bob Villain or, or, you know, or. kneecap, you know, just the more they're attacked, the more everyone's like, what's this band about? Have you, have you in any ways, like, felt any of these consequences? Have you been

targeted? Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, you know, I'm at a point in my career where I stopped chasing the music industry and even, like, starting to research the ties to festivals and platforms that music comes out on. So I really distanced myself from that kind of public consumption of my work early on. And I think maybe because I'm deep in that journey of being silenced at a very young age, that I know how to navigate differently. And what Neacab did and what Bob Villan did is admirable.

And I think there are many, many Arab artists that have also been doing that for a long time that aren't in the public sphere or on these stages to have that moment. moment in public. And I think that it just shows that actually the censorship is pervasive. It doesn't have to do with where you're from only. Because for us, it was like it's something you have to think about before you go out and do the work. Right. And yeah, I mean, I was working on a TV show at the end of the pandemic and started, I got somewhere where I was like pitching a TV show to a production company in Toronto. And they literally canceled my meeting after looking at my social media and they called me all the things that they call an Arab artist that's

pro-Palestinian. Yes, yes. So yes, definitely. And I've felt the pressure from many sides, even from students in all types of different places. You know, I'm still in the stomping grounds of Concordia where, you know, the opposite side is rampant too, you know? Right. Yeah. I imagine, I mean, it's almost like you're in two different professions. professions that are liable to get you yelled at. And one of them, obviously, being music, the other being a professor, just, you know, obviously college campuses are places where you've got

all sorts of different voices speaking out. And then, of course, you've got a lot of Zionist voices right now, at least in America, throughout college campuses, doing their best to silence students. As a professor, is there any worry for yourself, you know, regarding your own political stances? And in particular, what's the vibe like at Concordia? I mean, Concordia was the site of one of the most major North American and earliest protests against Netanyahu visiting in 2000. He didn't get in. He didn't get in at the time.

We got gassed, but he didn't get in. I think, like, you know, it's very interesting. I think I've created a protective bubble around my practice that I've never held back on my perspective on these things. It's always been a part of my journey. So the institution knows who I am. They know what I believe in. And it's always been a pro-humanity stance for my people first and then everybody that's, you know, with us in the cause, obviously. And I think like knowing that the university or the people within the institution that have to regulate any sort of criticism.

know who I am and know how, you know, they know I'm coming from a positive intention place and I'm not a rebel rouser in that sense. So I've had conversations and they've protected me. Now, does the institution at the top line invest in things that we don't believe in? Yes, and we discuss those things, even in our class content.

Being in a hip-hop class, I'm actually probably in one of the rawest classes. We have to be the most real we can about the state of the world and politics and our involvement in it. So the pushback has come mostly from students that don't agree with me and have reported me and I've had to deal with like fake reports about myself at that level. The vibe at Concordia is definitely up and down. Like every semester we have some sort of a strike, whether it be around university fees or around divesting from war and Israel in particular.

So it's there, the same vibe that was there when I was studying there. It's just things haven't changed much. So I don't know. You know, I even think, like, form of education and the way we design classes has to change now. You know, like the way students are processing information is so different. So I try to take my class in the means of an open discussion, but also, like, you've got to be real. You can't fake the funk. The students will call you out.

So I've been, I mean, listen, I taught the Kanye class when he went DefCon 3 on Twitter. and I had to deal with the fall out of that. It was insane. People treated me like I was part of the team, you know? So, I've dealt with it all. So this was a class you had already prepared for. You had already had a syllabus out. And then he started going DefConry on.

Yeah, you can imagine. I wrote this amazing syllabus on Kanye's artistic journey and his albums. and like, you know, the industry and what it does to mental health and, and public grief and like all the shit. And then week three on Friday, the day after my class, he tweets that. So I'm like, okay. And then the next four weeks I had to, I had to prove that I wasn't an anti-Semite to the world, you know, until things cooled down.

Yeah. Thank God I wasn't teaching when he bigged up Hitler, though. That would have been a hard one to get out of. So I'm not, needless to say, I'm not teaching Kanye anytime. I'm doing it because it's unpredictable. Wait till it cools down. Although now he, I think just recently, there was a new video of him

saying how much he dislikes the Palestinians. And I'm like, oh, so he's just, he's all over the place. He's, what do you call it? Just, uh, it's disappointing. Mentally ill and.

Listen, we can have a whole discussion about that on at another time because I think, that's true. That's true. I know too much. Well, now, I want to know more. But, you know, I think this will be my smooth transition.

When I hear you talk about you and your career, what I hear is integrity. And what I hear is someone standing on principles. And I would like to believe that standing on principles and having integrity is not just for musicians, but it is for also everybody, including politicians. and unfortunately yeah you would figure that that would be one of the top two qualifications of being an electable person not in well electable maybe but uh yeah i mean not in this system not in practice once you're elected yeah things change uh and speaking of faking the funk someone recently faked to the funk uh and we're going to talk about aOC i'm sorry i'm sorry

Sorry, everyone. For the people out there who were like, no, I don't want to hear more, you know, bad news about AOC. Well, I can't help you there. For some background, for those of you who don't know this story, so Congress recently once again passed a bill to fund Israel and their beautiful death machine. and Marjorie Taylor Green, of all people, went to the floor and added an amendment. And it was an amendment to say, okay, if we're going to do this, we at the very least should take away $500 million, which is a paltry sum, but it is still something, and not fund the Iron Dome. And AOC voted no on this, despite the fact that it is, you know, going to be. to deprive Israel of $500 million in funding for the Iron Dome. Now, to be clear, did she vote no on the original resolution? Okay.

She voted no on the original resolution. That's good. Which is good. And then voted no on the Marjorie Taylor Green Amendment. The people who voted yes alongside Marjorie Taylor Green are Thomas Massey of... Republican. Yeah, Republican of Kentucky. and then four Democrats, Al Green of Texas, different guy.

Let's stay again. Yeah, he's dying to be alone. Summer Lee, who is awesome, Ilhan, of course, and Rashida, of course, the goats. Yeah, so those were the congresspeople who voted yay on this. And everyone else voted nay was something like 400. 29 voted nay out of and then you know

out of 435 so she got yelled at a lot first I want to play Marjorie Taylor Green talking about this amendment before she presented it before the vote she said this

bombed a Catholic church in Gaza and that entire population is being wiped out as they continue their aggressive war in Gaza my amendment would strike 500 million in funding for nuclear armed Israel's missile defense system. The U.S. already provides Israel with 3.8 billion annually in foreign aid.

3.8 billion. That's a lot of money. Additionally, I'm sorry, I don't know who added the fucking background music. Totally unnecessary. It's just like, you don't need to make it dramatic. This is not exactly Mon Mothma. She's not going to have to like, like run out the back and be escorted to a ship by Cassie and Andor. Yeah, yeah. This is her just being like, well, what if we took a little bit of the money away? 24 security supplemental included $8.7 billion for Israel. Even though Israel, nuclear armed Israel, has universal health care for their citizens

and subsidized college for their citizens. They're able to provide that. However, here in America, we're $37 trillion in debt. My amendment will ensure an America first Department of Defense, and that is exactly what we need and we haven't had for a very long time. Okay, well, first of all, your amendment doesn't do that much. Secondly, I wish right-wingers didn't feel the need to constantly foreground the attacks on Christians and Catholics that Israel does in order to try to garner sympathy for their opposition to Israel.

but at this point, what are you going to do? Whatever it takes. First of all, America needs a new accountant. How are you always in debt and selling so many bombs, bro? Like, get your shit in order. Stop buying sneakers and get your shit in order. You're 37 trillion in debt. I just don't get it.

I don't get America. Look, if America is not happy with the services that Weinberg, Goldstein, and Schwartzman-Sertified accountants are providing we can always recommend several of our cousins crazy bro well listen i i look at that and uh i can't help but uh just like throw my hands up and just like disgust and despair at the fact that like marjorie taylor green who is uh you know you say oh you know she's she's trying to uh garner support by being like hey they bombed christians we're all christians we like Christians. I think that is genuine with her. She is someone who is, listen, her being against Israel may or may not stem from her fear of Jewish space lasers. We know this about her. The problem

I have is not that people like her exist. The problem I have is that we have an opposition party that has no idea how to fight these people. They have no idea how to take an issue that at this point, the vast majority of Americans agree with, like Israel, should not be constantly armed by us. They don't know how to take that ball and run with it or build a coalition around it. Instead, they cower in fear and allow the right wing. They allow Marjorie

Taylor fucking Green to be. be the one who is going to put forth the amendment to try to neuter just a fraction of the funding. And to me, I look at this as like completely unforgivable. Like why, this is this is the main problem that I had. Yes, the cross the cross fit sex lady. Who is that? Her? Yeah, yeah. She loves CrossFit. Uh, and she is, um, I mean, I don't know too much of the lore around her and fucking, but I'm sure it's gross. Adam's been getting into some strange subgenres. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His boring history is weird.

Let's ask the question, though, like, okay, let's put ourselves in AOC's Lou Bhutan's, okay? Let's put ourselves in her red bottoms and think to ourselves, why would I vote what I voted? What are the possible, like, ABC options or all of the above of why? Yes, yes. Well, let's hear what she had to say about it, because she sure took to Twitter to,

try to preempt anyone's opposition. And she did so. And this is the thing with AOC. It's one thing to compromise to play the game, to be cynical, to be cowed by the lobby, which you claim not to be cowed by because you don't take any of their money,

but that's not the only way in which the lobby works in Washington. But then the thing that bothers me with her is that the way she, A, throws her colleagues who do stand up on the bus. Under the bulldozer. And number two, the way she insults the intelligence of her left wing critics who have always been the people that have, you know, carried her. Carried her, yes. So let's look at that.

This is what she had to say about it. Daniel, you read. Marjorie Taylor Green's amendment does nothing. And I'm just glad she tweeted it rather than doing like. One of the sit-down videos. Influenced a version of it. I know. A TikTok video at home.

One of them tick-tect-to. One of those tic-tac-toes, you know, one of those videos while she's at home preparing mock tales or something like that. Anyway, back to it. Marjorie Taylor-Green's amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel, nor end the flow of U.S. munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it. Okay. So that's the premise of this objection, is that it didn't go far enough. Right.

And I am not a half-stepper. I am not going to vote for some amendment that doesn't amend enough. Girl, every dollar counts, girl, every dollar. Right. Every cent. Yeah, but that's the Hezbara. She's doing, this is AOC Barra. It's like she is going to explain to us why actually what she's doing is the most pro-Palestine position, which is a lot of mental gymnastics.

What it does do, MTG's amendment, is cut off defensive iron dome capacities while allowing the, actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue. Okay? So now she's introducing a new premise here, which is that there is such a thing as purely defensive aid to Israel, military aid. Yes. Or even financial,

that it's possible to support Israel. And we'll see this in all of the brilliant replies to her. Yes. They immediately pointed out. It's transparently ridiculous. Yeah. I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war. It's constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference

of opinion that has long been established between who and who, AOC. I don't know. Herself and herself. Herself and herself. Yes. But currently, herself and say someone like Rashida Talib. Yes. Or Ilhan Omar. Yes. Who clearly see that the so-called defensive capacities of the Iron Dome are actually ways of immunizing Israel against consequence. You don't provide defensive aid to a genocidal regime that's actively you know what you're doing is allowing them to do more genocide

without consequences I remain focused on cutting the flow of U.S. munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza. I'm sure you're working tirelessly towards that very attainable goal. I agree with that final statement but not in the way

that you're trying to get at it. Mr. I, yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, you go ahead first. Okay. Well, she added to it on Blue Sky, which is, I love the liberal safe haven of Blue Sky. Yeah. We're just like, sanctuary. All right.

Stephen Colbert. She did the short. She did the Chad GPT version on Blue Sky. She just shortened it. Well, this is her quote tweeting what she had previously written and adding to it here. in a reply. I also voted no on the full bill, which includes this appropriation. So a lot of people are being reactive to things. They aren't fully reading. That's always her flex. You haven't fully read it. You don't fully understand the game I'm playing. Yes. And there was

an AOC reply guy who just summed up what the PR strategy is around this sort of media fiasco, at least in left media fiasco of people being against her voting, no against this. She voted no on giving any money to Israel. The amendment was essentially like, we give them money, but only for defense. The answer is still no, as it should be. Voting yes, to make the bill more, voting yes to make the bill more palatable, increases the chances of it passing, and we don't want that. That's why MGT made the amendment.

So just to be clear, the accusation there is actually MGT, Marjorie Taylor Green wants to fund Israel and wants to make it more palatable by, I don't know, appealing to the left wing of the Congress? Like, it is, it's so galaxy brain. This is like three,

it's like five-dimensional chess, but it's also poker. So like, you're like, checkmate, but it's a bluff. Yeah, I'm sorry, but like, you know, like say what you will about Marjorie Taylor Green and in all of her

like most bigoted disgusting opinions that exist I think trying to call into question her being against funding Israel is ridiculous when you compare it to

all of the like AOC who has chances to be a leader on this issue and chooses not to over and over and over again. You can't I'm sorry, it sucks that you're seeding ground to Marjorie Taylor Green. That sucks, but that's not that you guys just don't understand the game she's playing. You can't spin that.

She's going to be inaugurated president in January of 2029. I mean, okay. She just is. That's what's going to happen. All right. She is our next president. And she needs to get there in order to do that. And when she gets there, boy, oh boy, you bet she's going to buck the lobby.

Yeah, yeah. She's sure going to cut. off that military aid to Israel but she can't do it guys unless she can get there and if if she votes yes to cut off iron dome funding then people are going to call her an Israeli baby killer and that's right and you know she doesn't want to deal with that yeah yeah you know i'll be i'll be honest and saying that i think that i i always see parables between politicians and and artists in the public sphere and like sponsorships they take and not thinking about where the money comes from just so they us slowly go up to the levels to get to the level they want to get at, your ego gets attached

to it. And like, unfortunately, there's never been an American politician that has really stood their ground. Besides Rashida and Ilhan, obviously, they're only two, I would say that, like, are still standing ground. And that's why they're not moving up in the game. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, you know. And you got to give a shout out to Summerlee, too, you know, because Summerlee gains nothing from voting yes on this bill. It's like it's for for her it is sticking her neck out more so because of the fact that she is not part of the, I don't know, coalition of, I mean, she's like, I guess squad adjacent. I mean, the squad doesn't really exist as a concept anymore.

But like, you know, you look at that or you look at Al Green and again, you can look at the ideological differences between a Thomas Massey voting yes on this and a Rashida Talib voting yes on this. They're doing it for separate ideological reasons, one because they're, you know, like genocide is wrong. We shouldn't be killing children. And our support of Israel is a support of genocide. And Thomas Massey is a libertarian, Kentucky who believes in isolationism. At the end of the day, if you're mad at anyone giving credit to right-wing psychopaths like Marjorie Taylor Green, the people you should be pressuring are people like AOC. These are the people you should be yelling at because they are the ones who are abdicating

responsibility in leadership in terms of these issues. Like, this is an issue we do need leadership on if you are on the left. And, you know, if you're someone who still believes in the Democratic Party, then why aren't you fucking, you should be yelling at AOC. I'm sorry. She is the leader of the flip-flop mode squad. I think, you know, these like, you know, I don't know which side of the spectrum you want to say that are left or right, but like the good-looking ones are always the, you know,

they're the ones I always get you, like Trudeau and they're always like, oh, we got to. We got to be careful. We got to be careful with Zoran because he's such a... He's very handsome. He's such a snack, you know? Yeah, I know, I know. Keep it thorough.

Yeah, you got to, you got to. And there was a lot of responses, Daniel, if you want to read some of the responses. Yeah, and many friends of the podcast, many former guests chimed in very ably better than we can. I'll start with your old college buddy, Yassine, my brother, Aaron,

who said, if you recognize that Israel is committing a genocide, why are you voting in favor of giving it $500 million for anything? Big facts. Meanwhile, wife of the pod, Francesca Furentini said, my wife. You knew it wasn't going to pass, so why not take a stand against military aid to Israel, even if sponsored by Green? Your progressive colleagues, far more vulnerable than you, stood on business against genocide. You got to buck the liberal Zionist lobbyists in your ear.

Yeah. It's not just lobbyists. I'm sure it's staffers, too. like they're well i mean you know i think it's staffers i think it's lobbyist i think it's uh i think it's an entire like bubble at this point that uh dc i mean obviously dc lives in a bubble in various ways but the fact that she looks at any complaints about this is essentially like oh just a bunch of twitter people don't know what they're talking about and it's like no pretty much the entire left the spectrum of the left uh media

sphere um is chiding you for this and it's not just tell us the truth yeah yeah i know just just be be honest just be trying to spin all much better yeah uh some other friends of the pod chimed in felix beaterman from choppo yeah this was i mean you know even hasan piker who recently interviewed aOC and is generally pretty congenial towards her uh commented on how ridiculous this was, you know, Felix was not quite so cordial. Truly and shockingly stupid, beyond the nonsensical distinction between defensive and offensive weaponry, gee, this constant state of war,

this state of constant warfare with neighboring countries is putting us in so many self-defense situations. Why is this one country entitled to free refills? It's fucking insane. You'd think it was in the Bill of Rights. Israel has enough resources at its disposal for universal health care. Here's MTG's point. A relatively gigantic military and the Haredi Dole program, which is the handouts to the Orthodox.

Do they just deserve free interceptor missiles more than other countries? And then he says, I don't even think this is cynicism. AOC isn't a cynic. She's fucking stupid. I think this is an open question. Maybe she's both. A true cynic seeking to become the standard bearer of the electoral left would at least recognize the moment they're in. This is just pure idiocy and cowardice.

Yes. Finally, Josh Eddendor Metamentum chimed in. Crazy name. Politicians, yeah, who support these bills. Why we aren't funding a state-of-the-art air defense system for Russia, too. Russian bodies and space is also in danger because of ongoing conflicts. Don't we care about their civilians, too? And Felix said, we could even compromise.

They only get free refills through the end of the year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's, he's making, he's making. so many, like, great points there, but, like, one of the points that he makes, I think, is really important, which is, like, AOC, is she a cynic? Is she stupid? And I agree completely that there's this thing where I'm like, and I've said this since, you know, the beginning of this podcast, which is, it feels like the Democratic Party in so many other ways uses, like, a populism and popular things on the left

cynically and to their electoral advantage only to then drop it later. Lies about stuff in order to get you to vote and then switches positions. The fact that there's not even a lie. You know what I mean? The fact that it's just this like constant

like, oh, I don't need to worry about this portion of the left that wants me to, you know, vote against Israel. at all times. The fact that you're not even going to take advantage of the fact that, I mean, especially this is a constituency that props you up constantly since 2018. And just to say, nah, fuck that, I'm just going to do something that is lose, lose. There are, well, I've got these people in the bag is her, is her philosophy. But you saw it of the DNC, the fact that she thought she could get on that stage and say what she said while they were Palestinians protesting outside

that they wouldn't be given a platform on stage? Right. You must think you can't lose these people. Right, but these are all learning moments, right? To me, as a human being who learns things as I go, who has machine learning technology deep in my brain, I would go, well, that was a very embarrassing moment when I did that. And then it was later revealed that they were not working tirelessly at all. In fact, they were allowing Israel to do whatever they wanted. Like, that's when I go, okay, well, I'm going to have to maybe gain back some of the

the trust after that fiasco also the fact that Kamala lost there's none of that I'm telling you there's a bubble it is it is like she she must be kind of stupid maybe I mean I feel mean saying that but I also just I don't see how any of this is smart is it not lose lose she she doesn't gain anything I think she loses everything she's too deep in the sauce bro you know she's too deep in the game. So it's like, I think we should just, at this point, too, like this far into the genocide and Gaza, you're going to vote this way? It's like, no, swipe, swipe left, girl. I know. And it's like, especially now, there's this new thing that I've been noticing in terms of where the libs stand on this, which is a admission of, start off with admission that there's

a genocide going on and then tell you, but you're not smart enough to understand my position how I fight it because you're looking at how I fight it and are stupidly thinking that it is the exact same position as, say, a coward who would never call this a genocide. You know what I mean? And the fact is, once you start, this is a genocide, you can't then say, but there's nuances and there's ways to do this and there's procedure. It's like, no, if you truly believe this is a genocide, why would you give $500 million extra? When you could vote, no.

Even if you knew it was going to pass already. It's like crazy to me. That's right. AOC, tell us the truth. AOC, I know you're watching. Yeah, AOC's. What is it going on? Who is telling you to vote this way?

Who's on the list? Come on. Yeah, exactly. Let me see those files. Come on, let me know. Responses. I mean, Adam made a similar point that Ettinger did. If providing defensive weapons in, this is Adam Johnson from citations needed.

If providing defensive weapons in no way confers support for an offensive campaign, which you call a genocide, then does this mean you would vote in favor of an Iron Dome for Iran or Russia? If the goal is abstract protections of civilians regardless of context. some people eschewed you know careful debunking an analysis for just a gut response Christian Smalls who's currently on the new flotella with our boy Jacob Berger

that's right this is the shutdown Amazon guy Christian Smalls from Staten Island says fuck the Iron Dome how about that stand on business for real for real time yeah Muhammad El Curd said you're a pathetic

spineless shell of a person my guy man right there ever since talking to him i now hear everything in his like deadpan and so i've just it's 10 times funnier yeah it's just like the way he said this was so slow yeah and like smooth he said you are a pathetic spineless shell of a person that's how he said it and i oh i love it i love and then he might follow it up with but what do i know i only had half my home stolen by Jewish settlers. Kyle Kalinsky, who's always been one of the more AOC sympathetic people, said this is pathetic.

Caitlin Johnstone said, I don't give the mass shooter guns and ammunition. I just bought him a bulletproof vest so nobody could stop the massacre. Great point. And then I saw one, yeah, easier to rob a bank if you're wearing body armor, 100%. And then I saw one really bad take from Zai, Jal. who sometimes is just contrarian for the sake of it. Yeah. He says, a lot of leftists are mad at AOC about this,

but MTG basically doesn't support any foreign aid. That was the motivation behind the amendment. Okay. If you're a critic of Israel, then you probably don't want to just caught off Israel entirely, as that might prompt them to act even more insane. Yeah, then they'll run out of weapons, and then things will slow down.

But they might go crazy and start doing war crimes. Yeah, yeah. You might really piss them off. Yeah. And then he continues. America needs to maintain leverage over Israel in order to influence its behavior. No. That would mean strategic pressure on things like future arms sales, sanctions on ministers,

trade deals, loans, et cetera. MTG has a different idea of just extricate entirely. Listen, you can't talk about leverage and just be like every time someone's like, hey, can we use that leverage? You're like, no, but then we don't have no more leverage. what are we doing sorry bro leverage fund uh we don't have enough we got to save it for when we're really going to use it yeah yeah yeah no no we let's just we got to wait for a few more dozens of people to be killed per day we have what we need is uh let's give it a nice 200 000 200 000 and

then we go hey guys guess what no more iron dome everything else everything else also is he is he suggesting that because Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't believe in funding anything, any like foreign power that is he saying it's that's a bad

thing? Exactly. It's like, well, she's an irrational kook, right? You don't want to listen to her. She's got this weird idea that we shouldn't be funding foreign work crimes committing regimes

or that we should be not funding any regimes. Maybe we should be feeding our own people or whatever. Don't listen to her. That's coming from a weird place. That is such a crazy take. That is totally taking. Crazy. People are nuts. First of all, let's stop calling these politicians with rapper names. I'll stop calling them AOC and MTG and stop giving them acronyms for God's six. That's reserved for Wu-Tang and good people. Second of all, these people are nuts. Yes, they are insane, completely insane. Yeah, I mean, it just, I, I can't, like, look at this anymore when it comes to her and not start getting this deep, sinking feeling about her 20, you know, 28 run. Is she running?

Oh, everyone is, everyone is, everyone is saying this. And I don't, you know, I don't know whether or not it's true. All I know is that it is. just, I'm already exhausted. I'm already exhausted at the idea that she's going to run and the line will be, well, but she agrees with you on everything else. She's the closest to you politically in all these different ways. And just because-

So was Kamala. Well, right. But beyond that, it's like, guys, this issue is one of those things where I, I'm sorry, but I will judge your, political IQ by it, if you are unable to stand up and say out loud that not only is this is a genocide, but they don't deserve any funding, if you are constantly voting strategically for pro-Israel lobby positions one after the other, then I just don't trust in your ability to, it's beyond I don't trust you as a person. I don't trust any politician as a person,

but I just don't trust your ability to know whether or not, like you're not going to win. That's how I feel. You are completely not a genuine person. And at this point, I don't think you have a single chance of winning. I just don't. And so I'm like, instead we're going to spend months and months with people yelling

saying you should be supporting AOC. And I'm just like, she has to earn it I'm sorry she has to earn this goddamn support I'm just so tired of preemptively throwing entire groups of people under the bus

like literally under the bulldozer and acting like that's an okay thing to do like I'm sorry and uh you know it's also it's just pure narcissism and not the good kind not the narcissism it's because

Narcy goes you go by the narcissist right sometimes Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, she's constantly telling us to read more. She probably just needs to read the room, please. Yeah, exactly. Well, set. We can probably go to break on that night. I know.

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And we're back. This bad has barra, the world's most moral podcast. We're here with a Narsi. What's up, Narsi? What's up, bro? Oh, nothing. Just, you know, live my life. Just the end of the world.

Just the end of the world. Just podcasting through it all. Yeah, you know. Death and destruction and trying to live. Do you know Josh Dolgan from the Montreal music scene? Yeah, of course. Of course I know, Josh. So-called.

He was my roommate in fourth year. No way. I'm on like three of his albums. I played the voice of the rabbit in his season play. Yeah, he wrote a... The only character that got shot was my character. He wrote this crazy musical with puppets and shit. Yeah, I was the Red Rabbit, season one.

Oh, amazing. I love that. I love it. You guys are talking some deep Canada stuff here. You guys, you know... Yeah, Josh does... Josh, like Samples old. Yiddish shit. He did a Passover

hip hop Hagada album, which is great for Passover. Yeah. I love it, yeah. Well, we have worked with Fred Wesley from the J.Bs. Anyway. Yeah, still we have to know you know. We have some Canada stuff to talk about. Yeah, this is an article from the Times of Israel.

And the article... Times of Israel is great, because they always post shit that like, because it's such a weird like hardcore right wing niche Zionist thing that they're a treasure trove because they'll post things that like are delightful always for us to discover yeah because they live in so much of a bubble

that everything that they write for their audience seems normal but then for anyone who is not a Zionist you're reading this and you're going this is hilariously sincere and so here is this article

it is, I'm afraid to go home. Canadian IDF soldiers fear fallout from war crimes probing. Okay, wait a second. I'm afraid to go home. First and foremost, let's start with those five words. So you're not from Israel. What are you doing over there?

What are you doing in Israel? Fighting for my homeland. Isn't there supposed to be a place you're able to go to not be afraid of? Yeah. That's a good point. Well, if you're afraid to go home, you can always stay, which keep in mind, that is the, you know, subconsciously what's the through line through this. It's like, why even go home, guys? They're only going to prosecute you. Make more baby. Your occupation may be the problem here. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Your occupation is occupation. Jews have always faced persecution. Now we have to face prosecution, too. Yes. For things we did.

Wow. All right, here we go. Should I read this in a Canadian accent? No, please don't. Yeah, I'd rather die. Natty Huberman is a crazy name too. There's some crazy names out there. When Natty Hubberman was given back his phone in March after weeks of reserve duty on Israel's northern front,

hold on. That's discrimination against Canadians. They don't seem to take away any Israeli-born soldier's phones. Yeah, that's an interesting. When they're serving in Gaza. Yeah, I love. They sneak them into Gaza like they're sneaking it into prison. It's like a hazing ritual just for the Canucks.

He was inundated with messages from friends about a website he'd never heard of. People were texting me saying, watch out, watch out, watch out, watch out, watch out. Your name is on it, he said. It was find IDF soldiers.net. I'm sorry. They couldn't get the dot com. They couldn't get the episode description. They couldn't get the dot com is great.

They couldn't. The dot com is a dating website. To find IDF soldier. If you want to date an IDF soldier. Yeah, exactly. A site created in February by Davidei Mastrachi, or Mastrochi. A Canadian journalist who has harshly criticized Israel, accusing it of orchestrating a, air quotes, planned genocide in Gaza.

Where do you get the idea? That's some harsh criticism. Crazy. Mastrachi, an editor for an outlet called the Mastrachi, an editor for an outlet called the Mastroats. aimed to identify Canadians who had fought for the Israel defense forces, either during the current war or previously. At the time, Hubberman said the exposure felt disturbing, but marginal. Then in June, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, RCP, the Mounties, announced that it had opened an investigation into matters related to the Israel-Hamas armed conflict with the possibility of uncovering

a perpetrator of core international crimes such as genocide, war crimes, or crimes against humanity. You gotta love Canadians. They're just like, listen, we're just gonna look into this. Yeah, if you don't mind. We're just trying to check it out.

Yeah, exactly. Let's see what this is all about. Are they still mounted those police? Do they write? A boot face! Stupid. listen the RCMP have great fits their outfits the guys that are still on horses the fits are crazy yeah yeah they're really good my favorite RCMP fit is when they put the sock around

their penis and balls and did give it away give it away what oh sorry that's red hot chili peppers that's RCCP my bad y'all my bad Americans would have loved that joke, all right? Yes. No, no, I'm not too. I'm Canadian for you guys. But I'm just, but I'm just remembering the, the, I mean, Mounties have become sort of a cultural joke.

Yeah. Let's not forget. They were the, you know, they were the Canadian version of the horseback riding overseers who would catch slaves. I mean, right. The Mounties were created to, uh, do genocide politely. Do genocide, uh, very politely and courteously. Right.

Uh, against Canada's indigenous people. That's right. Anyway, in previous years, the RCMP has conducted similar investigations relating to crimes against or by Canadians in the context of other foreign conflicts, including in Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia. But this is the first time Canadian authorities have launched a war crimes-related probe connected to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a developed that has generated particular anxiety within Canada's Jewish community, which has documented a rise in anti-Semitism since

the October 7th, 23, 2020, attack. Jesse Brown mentioned in the Times of Israel. You know who I'm talking about, Narsi, Canada land? Oh, yeah. Never mind. I have so much to say. I'm just holding on right now.

Yeah, yeah. Say it. Say it. Say it, say it. I mean, first of all, coming from the isolated country of Canada currently in the world, you know, we, we, I strongly, I suggest that the government does look into people who go

fight in the name of a specific quote unquote religion and kill people in the name of that belief system. Let's not call it a religion. Let's call it a belief system, right? Ideology. Because they did ideology, yes. They did that with Muslims when they were killing Muslims, quote unquote, in the war on terror. So I think we should use the same kind of tactics to counter any extreme force that may return into Canada and pose a threat to any Canadian. So I'm going to put that on the table. I don't care where they're from. As long as they went and they killed children, they shouldn't be allowed to come back here without at least getting searched as thoroughly as I did for having a rap CD in my bag in 2006, right? Yeah, yeah, 100%. And it's just like, you know,

the idea that, you know, certain war crimes investigations are a little touchy. It's just like, to me, I'm like, what is this double standard at this point? What are we doing? It's like, oh, you know, well, the Jewish community here is very nervous because a lot of their, you know, sons are currently in Gaza doing war crimes. It's like, well, I don't know, man. They should do it target practice on the testicles of children. Did you see this report? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every day the Israelis soldiers pick a different body part to target. Yeah. I mean, I swear to God, the investigation into these fuckers needs to be at least as rigorous as it was into Todd Bertuzzi for the illegal cross-checked to the back of the head of Steve Moore. Oh, boy.

And the Vancouver Canucks against Colorado Avalanche back in the early 2000s. Am I right, Canadians? You know what I'm saying? This episode is way over your head, Matt. Just take it. So just, sorry, I need to translate. The investigation needs to be at least as the malice at the palace investigation after run our test and Stephen Jackson jumped into the stands and started punching people. Meta World Peace, thank you. Meta World Peace is now his name. Yeah, and then secondly, like, you know, and this is not to like oppression Olympics anything, but in Canada there has been a serious rise in violence against Muslims

in a way that hasn't been seen before in our country, whether you see shootings at mosques or woman getting their hijabs pulled or, you know. I'm sorry, it's not oppression Olympics. It's just the fact to acknowledge that there are different leagues. Yeah. All right. Yes. There's different leagues of oppression.

Yeah. Violence against us has been programmed into generations of North Americans as though it is something that needs to be indefensible and like have no limits. Whereas any violence that comes out of that violence, because at the end of the day, all this is happening because of Israel, right? Yeah. That we are still held responsible for these things, you know, when they're being. Having grown up, having grown up Jewish in Canada, I can tell you that resentment against Jews

has been programmed into the Canadian psyche for a lot of people, mostly not urban Canadians, but distrust maybe, misunderstanding, unfamiliarity with, sometimes I still do, and maybe perennially swastikas on graveyards and on synagogue doors. My synagogue as a kid was firebombed, no one was hurt. There definitely has been a history of it,

but nothing like what you're describing there. I see violence against Jews is not programmed into the Canadian DNA, unless you count the Ukrainian Nazi war criminals that are that our MPs applaud in parliaments. Visitors. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man.

Yes, you will be around. I'm reading this thing you have up on the screen. Yes, you will be arrested at the border. You should be arrested at the border. Like, absolutely. Yeah. Hubberman says, it was scary, a dual Canadian, Israeli citizen from Toronto. Choose, motherfucker.

Which is it? Yeah, which one is it? Where's home, bro? Where they took your phone or where you came back with it? I have no problem with people having dual citizenship. This is, you know, for me, this is, it's not an issue that anyone would have dual citizens. You should not be eligible to serve in more than one army. I mean, listen, even if that, like, even if that, I don't even know if I agree with that. Like, to me, Tim Bitz or Shakshuka, one got to go.

Yeah. but to me the issue here is that you know as is being like the premise of the war that you are fighting in is uh and that you are committing war crimes for is essentially like well where where will jews go you can't have to me it's it's that hypocrisy that i find the most offensive it's it's serving two armies sure i don't fucking care, have dual citizenship, whatever, and not my business. Going around saying I'm scared to go home, you just fought in a place that is also, according to you, you're home. So, how am I supposed to feel about this? Am I supposed to be sad? Am I supposed to be scared for you?

You have two homes. You should not be allowed to incinerate refugees in tents in the winter and then go fucking, you know, water ski in Kelowna, BC in the fucking summer. Yes. You know, or, you know, go skiing at Banff. Like, fuck off. Yeah, at this point. You don't get war and peace. You get one.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I just don't think, you know, like, I just don't think at this point you can make the argument, but it's just, it's not fair that other people can commit war crimes. and I can't. Like, that's what it feels like to me. Correct. You know what? I'm going to flip it back on American and Canadian narrative and say, this is Israeli jihadism.

They cannot come, you know, you can't bring Israeli jihadists back into the country if that's how you want to look at it. Yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I use that word not in the proper term.

No, of course. You're using it in the pejorative term the way that the war on terror did. They're globalizing the jihad. Yeah. another Canadian IDF reservist on the list who preferred to be referred to as N because he feared legal consequences. That was me. Narcy, this is propitious.

I didn't realize you were, yeah. Born in Calgary, Alberta, trained to be a rodeo cowboy. and has spent nearly 300 days, 300 days on reserve duty. My man went for the long haul. Yeah, yeah. Is that even reserve anymore? Mostly in Gaza. Did America pay him?

Did he get American dollars to go do this? I don't know. Because he still has to file those under Canadian law and his tax. Yeah, but Alberta tax laws might be more advantageous. Since the Hamas led invasion of Israel on October 7th, I hate that they call it a fucking invasion. It was an incursion. Yeah. It was a jail break.

Yeah. Invasions have backup. Invasions are like, okay, we're coming in and we're going to stay. Like, what was the fucking plan? Anyway. Now he and Huberman are part of a cohort of Canadian, Israeli soldiers, grappling with the fallout of Ottawa's unprecedented probe. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. I'm sure they inserted some unprecedented probes when they were probably serving at Stay Tamana, am I right? That's called the Iron Dome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The investigation has alarmed and confused them along with other Canadian Jews at a time of rising anti-Semitism and tense relations between Ottawa and Jerusalem. This is confusing. I was supposed to go to Canada next week and told the times of Israel in July, but after the investigation was announced, I felt afraid to go home.

Crazy! You start with home and you end with home. What are you doing? Yeah, that's great. Oh, man. I love the confused. Like, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was told explicitly that I was allowed to go kill those kids over there. And then I try to come home and literally forget anything that just happened.

And you're trying to remind me? All the Canadian-Israeli soldiers are up on the nosebleeds of the ice rink yelling, ref, you suck, ref you suck. News of the investigation prompted anxiety among Jews in Canada. news of the investigation prompted anxiety among Jews in Canada with Ido Moed, Israel's ambassador, telling the Canadian Jewish news that he was, quote, flabbergasted and concerned by media reports on the probe. The Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs, a leading Canadian Jewish organization, likewise, called reports of the investigation, quote, deeply concerning. But in the weeks since, Canadian Jewish leaders have been told that Canadian-Israeli soldiers are not under criminal investigation.

and the initiative began with a focus on Hamas' crimes. Oops. Oh, my God. The back pedal is crazy. You know who should be in charge of this? They should put the most self-preservationist Canadians in charge of this. They put Quebecois guys in charge of this. No doubt.

Because they will check everybody. They're max racist. They won't have any prejudice. It'll just be blank carte blanche, as they would say, nobody's coming into the country. Cart blanche, as they would say with a weird accent. A carte blanche. Remember when Quebec lost, or the separatists lost the referendum in the late 90s, and Jacques Perrizo blamed it on money and the ethnic vote?

Yeah, I don't remember that. Yeah, my father was probably part of that ethnic vote. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I was part of money. Okay, because that was totally code for Jews. Come on. There was a lot of misleading information. when it first broke, said David Cooper, Siege's vice president.

Oh, not Seja. Oh, they are fucking insane. Explain, explain. Let me, but let me just try to guess the initialism. Canadian, Israel, Jewish advocates? Alliance, I think. Okay. They have been going hard at universities

trying to get professors fired. Sure. When a friend of mine brought Peter Beinart, you know, noted radical Peter Beinart to Victoria. to speak at the University of Victoria, Seja threw a fucking fit. It's like, yeah, they've been going hardcore. What do you know about them, Norse?

I don't want to talk about them. That's what I know about them. They know about me. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just that, you know, they're like, they're just like, they're just, yeah. They're the Canadian APEC.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Canadian APEC. Very unpleasant. Cooper said that Seja has been in regular contact with the RCMP, which he said has, quote, confirmed to us on multiple occasions that no criminal investigation is currently underway. Fuf. Yeah. I can, I'm sorry, but I'm so, I'm still processing the, guys, don't worry about this. This is about Hamas. Yeah. Is, is, don't worry, we're only going after Arabs. Right. Which confuses me. Do they think that

there is a mass amount of Arabs flying to Gaza to, fight the IDF? Flying to, flying to Gaza, getting in Dolorians, revving the thing up, driving up, driving to 88 miles per hour, setting the date as October 7th, 20th, maybe October

6th, 23, just to get in, you know, in advance, and then joining the attack on Israeli civilians that happened once. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's just, it's insane to me, that is his line in order to like calm people because number one I don't think anyone who's worried is calmed to buy that because it sounds completely made up and number two is it possible that that's true and that then after October 7th so many other war crimes happened they're like

well shit we still got to look into the war crimes and now it's just all uh Israeli soldiers who's to say it's just very interesting and I love how CJ is like reassured that it's only looking at that they're only looking into Hamas. He added that the RCMP's involvement began with quote, investigations into Canadians that were murdered by Hamas. Investigations into the Canadians that were murdered? A focus,

Siegea has urged the Canadian government to maintain. Or focus, you guys, focus, focus on investigating the same corpses over and over again. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just I don't know, listen, we have to arrest these

guys, like spending, you're to happen to a genocide going like, oh, don't kill everyone because we got to arrest them guys. Hamas's atrocities are well documented, including the murder of multiple Canadian civilians in Israel, read a statement by Noah Shaq, Siege's interim present. Hey, Shaq, baby, hey, check. Hey, Shaq, baby. The hate shack is a Canadian dude who chills for Israel.

On the day of the RCMP announcement, he encouraged anyone who has information on Hamas' crimes against humanity. What is this fucking McGriff, the crime duck? Yeah. Crime duck? Dog.

I need to slow down. I'm talking too fast. Including murder, torture, sexual violence, and abduction to submit this evidence to the RCMP's portal once in place. Man. First of all,

the RCMP has a portal? Where'd they get the portal? Where does the portal go? Yeah. I need that. Where's the portal go? Directly to the Knesset, I assume. Yeah, maybe into Staitaman.

Who knows? Either way, like if it's an online portal or like a time capsule portal, that's kind of nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, at this point in this article, it's like we're getting into them trying to switch the conversation about like what we've, really should be doing and what they are doing is investigating the crimes of October 7th over and over. I just, to me, I'm like, I don't believe this for a second, which is, which leads me to the question, why are they running cover for this particular investigation? Unless the investigation itself isn't actually happening by the Mounties and it's just this one journalist. Imagine the

Mounties trying to call up, like, the fucking shin bat. You know how quickly they'd get, like, hung up on? Yeah. Hello, this is the Canadian Royal Mounted Police. Could I speak to the internal Israeli investigator for the murder of Canadians? Hello? Hello? Hey?

Hello? Are you there? Oh, I'm going to assume, it's me calling back. I'm going to assume we just got disconnected there for a second. Your voicemail seems to be full. You might want to clear that out. I can hook. I can connect you.

with my brother, he works for Bell. Shack added any suggestion that Israeli Canadians should be targeted for their service, particularly in a war of self-defense, waged by a close ally of Canada, not only represents a cynical distortion of the law, but fuels the violent hatred faced by Israelis and Jews in North America. Which reminds me, of course, of this terrible headline

from the Telegraph. Bake sales for Gaza could stoke Jew hatred, EU warns. Fundraisers for Gaza make Jews feel uncomfortable, says Europe's anti-Semitism czar. Oh, they're spelling it with a tea. They're selling it with a tea and make it real fucking Russian. They're back with it. They're back.

I love it. We were talking about that before where it was just like the fact that they have an anti-Semitism czar. If only they would spell it like they would spell the Tsar. And they did. Now they're doing it, baby. The anti-Semitism Cossacks. Yeah, exactly. All right, moving on.

It wasn't like this when I was a kid. Canada was a great place. Anti-Semitism was nominal. It was nominal. Yeah, it's true. Hubberman said, now there are protests outside my parents' synagogue. Hmm,

I wonder what kind of land sales are happening outside your parents' synagogue. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Literally every protest. Yeah, go ahead. This is not Montreal, but the synagogues in Montreal are not downtown.

So most of the protests are happening downtown. That's right. I don't know. And in Toronto, in Toronto, all the synagogues that I've seen protested are ones where they're holding literal real estate sales for parcels of illegal land in the West Bank. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it's like it's this constant game that is being run by, you know, the Hezbaris. And honestly, I think it is a completely deliberate choice to like, what are you going to do, protests in front of a senator?

and people are at this point they're like yeah we will if you were trying to sell stolen land where the occupants have been genocided yes we will and they'll continually just post this phrase without any context oh they're protesting holy places and I'm like I'm sorry but this is all you're doing is inciting violence towards those worshippers who are not there on the days when they are buying stolen land, the ones who are there as Jews to pray and to, you know, like, it's, yeah, to me, I'm like, this is, you're putting your own community

in danger through this shit. And you are willing to sacrifice their safety because it helps you get that headline. You're allowed to pray at a synagogue. You're allowed to pray at a synagogue as long as it's pray with an A, not pray with an E. Yes.

If you pray with an E at a synagogue, people protesting you is what is going to happen. And yeah, anyways, I just like, I do look at this as like a very purposeful provocation, you know, where they're doing this because they are fully willing to put their own community at risk. And that's fucked up. This sense of change was echoed by Dov Niedzvskiechki. Nice Middle Eastern name there. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, give me the Israeli first name, but I got to keep the European last name. Yeah, I got, that's an OG name.

You think I'm going to leave Niedziewvetsky? Fuck off. Who moved to Israel in 2014 from Thornhill, Ontario to serve in the army. Thornhill, whose median income is probably. I don't know, $400,000 a year. Damn. It's a very, very rich suburb of Toronto. Canadian dollar or American dollar?

Israeli Shackle. Yeah, Israeli Shackle. Yeah, Israeli New Shackle. Yes, yes. The part that got to me was just the safety and security of my parents, Niedzwetsky said. You left your parents to go fight. I don't tell anyone that I'm Israeli when I'm back in Canada. You just avoid it.

I just, oh, God, oh, God. It is just so, there's just so much of this, like, stolen. This is a very long article, too. It's very long. How much longer is it? It goes on for so much longer. It goes on forever. Oh, my God.

What are we going to do? I mean, listen, we've got most of the interesting stuff in there. Here, there's a, there's a mention of a particular, uh, uh, lieutenant, IDF lieutenant colonel turned, turned injury lawyer. lawyer here. At least one Canadian-Israeli soldier has sought legal representation from Lieutenant Colonel Reserves Maurice Hirsch, the former head of the IDF's military prosecution in the West Bank. While he declined to comment on the specifics of his client's case, Hirsch, I wonder if he's related to Rabbi Ami Hirsch of emotionally damaged Jewishly fame.

Crazy Jews. What's the fuck? You're emotionally damaged, Jewishly. That's right. That's the guy. Hirsch warned that the broader trends signaled by the RCMP probe raises serious concerns regarding Canadian-Israeli relations. I'm not surprised by the investigation, said Hirsch, who is now director of the initiative for Palestinian Authority, Accountability, and Reform at the Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs. I'm going to read that again. The P-A-A-R-J-C-S-F-A. You don't know about that? They're quite famous here. Yeah, yeah, we all know that.

The Palestinian Authority, Accountability, and Reform at the Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs. There is a think tank called the Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs. That's right. And they have a position, they have an initiative that is all about accountability and reform for those dastardly Palestinian authorities. Now, the Palestinian Authority absolutely. needs accountability. Right, of course. It absolutely needs reform in the form of being abolished and obliterated. Yeah, right. But I, I have a feeling, brutal fucking puppets of a brutal regime. Yeah, but you get the, the strong feeling that

their reasons are not the same as your reasons. Oversight from a fucking former lieutenant colonel turned Canadian fucking injury attorney. And how much more oversight do you want over a puppet government. That's just his incorporated he filed so he can file his taxes. But who puppeteers the puppeteers? That's right. That's right, man. It seems to be the continuation of a stance that the government of Canada has adopted

while feigning friendly relations with Israel. They are simultaneously accusing Israeli soldiers of war crimes. So confusing. Israeli lawyer voice. But I mean, like, It's just so clear from this article that the amount of steps that are being taken to stop any kind of accountability from foreign soldiers who flew to serve in a genocide. Like, you can't see this double standard in anything else.

I mean, I just don't, you don't see any other country that gets an exemption from doing war crimes and coming back to their home country and just being like, well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I was told it was my constitutional right to go fight over there and kill people with that. I mean, as long as it's an ally, what's the big deal? You just don't see that. You don't see it.

So instead, what you have is like a community of freaked out people who were like, had I known that the world would be so mad at me for doing this, I maybe I wouldn't have never served in the first place you know it's it's not even a it's not even apologizing for the actual war crimes taking place there's no I mean if if you're getting complaints in Brazil Sri Lanka Thailand Belgium Netherlands Serbia Ireland Cyprus Canada there's something you're doing wrong and it's okay to hold yourself accountable for these yes and we Canadians are supposed to be great at saying sorry yeah exactly are you are you

Canadian? Come on, huh? Sorry seems to be the hardest word. Yeah. How can you claim to be a Canadian dual citizen? And not be able to apologize. You can't even apologize, you know? Like I said, now give it to the Quebec Gua. Give it to the Quebec one. They'll stop there. If these guys come back, I'm voting for a referendum,

guys. Yeah. Definitely, definitely, definitely. The hardest Canadian words are pasta. And, yeah, we say Deccle. You guys say decal. Deccal. I've never heard that. Canada says decal.

What the fuck? Not decal. Like Schmekel? Yeah, like Schmekel. Because when I was in grad school from musical theater, I wrote a lyric about a deckle speckled Schwinn bike or something like that. And my collaborator was like a what? Speckled. Do you say fecal or fecal?

Yeah. Fecal. Oh. Yeah. Do you say... But my dad says puberty. Puberty. Puberty, which made me very...

Uncomfortable. Puberty is uncomfortable enough without your Hungarian doctor father saying, you know, this is one of the signs of puberty. Puberty. I'm sorry. It's just, I'm just picturing Winnie the Pooh with a beer. Oh, bother. Oh, well, I suppose it had to happen sometime.

Hey, Winnie the Pooh. Tigger now. Winnie the Poob. Yeah, Wendy the Poop. He's growing poops. Oh, I should start wearing pants now. I have a bow in there. Well, I tell you, if I could retitle this article, it would be the Adventures of Dudley

Do-Rong. Yeah, man. I mean, listen, I would love it if the people who carry out the next, like, I don't know, trials at the Hague, you know, the next Eichmann trials, the next Nuremberg trials, the next Nuremberg trials. I would love it if they were all Canadian police mounted on mooses.

That would be amazing if there was, you know, hey, listen, I'll take it. I don't care where it comes from as long as we see some accountability. But yeah, man, that just, I don't know what is wrong with Canada.

But it seems to be the same thing that's wrong here, so I consider it the same place. Before we go, I want to play one more fun thing. This is just something that I saw on the internet. First, I'm going to start with a video of a special gun technique that the IDF teaches. That is just made me laugh a lot. Here's a little bit of IDF gun technique for all of you to see. Taking the weapon, I'm grabbing it out of the whole

What the hell? Let me start with this What in the rapper is that? This is the, from the at gun lovers club in Israel, they don't carry around in the chamber. This is their quick draw technique. All right. I'm taking the weapon, I'm grabbing

it out. Is that Leo Cohen? Yeah. And I'm bringing it to a position. where I can cock it. The left hand is ready to cock it. The right hand is holding the weapon. What da-da-da-dang. Hey, listen to my nine-millimeter.

Go hold on a second. Just give me a minute. Go bang. The right hand is holding. I've seen that technique. I've seen that technique in a Mobb Deep video before. This is not Israeli. Yeah, this is not Israeli.

Once again, there's... Come on, Donnie. They're stealing culture. I'm copying the weapon and getting into the shooting position. You ain't a crook, son. You just a shoot. Shook one's part two, am I right?

Shook. He has severe scoliosis. Sorry. I had to. Guys, so I just, I can watch that video forever because I just love the fucking, I love the movie does. Some other, like, gun guy on the internet wrote this. This is from Dave, aspiring peasant.

He writes, I was a Navy SEAL for over a decade, so I know a few things about drawing a weapon. Technique, this bad, could only survive in a place where the people you're shooting are unarmed. This only works because they are shooting women and children, the more you know. I just, like, I think we need to do a whole episode on like Krav Maga

because the more I like read into Krav Maga or see it done, the more I'm like is this a martial art or is this just like I don't know, it just seems like it is a type of fighting

invented for people who are occupying others. You know what I mean? We need an America first version of that the Marjorie Taylor Green can teach maybe call it Crov Maga. Krov Maga. You saw that one coming.

Yeah, you telegraphed that one too. But yeah, I just love his gun technique. I love Israeli gun technique. I mean, not only are they rabid genociders. They also have really bad aim. So it really doesn't help their cause. Yeah, yeah. This is, I mean, I have a feeling that video will be presented as evidence for the defense at the

Hague where they're like, no, we didn't need it. properly look look how we shoot our guns we get in a weird angle come on we're not good at it that's all you can take the uh you can take the jew out of the stettle but you can't take the clutz out of the jew that's right that's right and with that i want to say thank you so much narsi for coming on bad has bar thank you guys my pleasure i haven't laughed in a minute so thank you for bringing out the giggles Oh, good, good. That is the point. Where can people find your work? You can find my work at find IDFsoldier.net. Not to be confused with find IDF soldier.com.

That is a dating website. Initially, they called that G-date. Yes. No, you can find my work. Just look at Narcy. Ony, Narcy. Narsi. Online. You can go there. go look up no smoking aloud go look up to be an arab you'll find me i'm i'm everywhere the fed's got me already yeah so check his fed file it has all the links also the description will have all the links to all of his music and socials narsi it was so great to talk to you thank you guys i'll do it anytime and to play us out today instead of our usual dope outro it'll be even

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