BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - JOSH RECAPS THE SWAY HOUSE REUNION + LIL NAS X FULL INTERVIEW | BFFs S2 Ep 10

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

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You're having, you know, withdrawal symptom. Yeah, Jr. Withdrawals. but you got a good fix in with your sway boys. I did I did we did a little sway reunion pretty tight. Everyone came to the crib which was fun we've been trying to plan that since like I was planning the fire stream so that's been like a long time coming. But it was awesome. It was sick to do a little stream, have a bunch of, you know, like, I feel like OG fans getting to really appreciate that and have fun with that. And now we're talking about where do we go from here? Like, do we start doing a little bit more in like the live streaming area? I don't think all the boys will always come

through for every stream, but I do think there's like a majority of that group that wants to start doing fun streams, like three day, four day, five day streams. We talked about doing like sui-seas where we go out in the water and like we were on a boat for like five days and like we only eat what we catch. We only like survive off of like, you know, being survivalists. We talked about going to Japan to do a stream. We talked about doing Brazil. We're talking about doing a camping stream. We got a lot of stuff. Whoa, you guys are got a lot of streams to do.

Yeah. Yeah. We want to do like Calgary Stampede. We want to do like an igloo stream, like go to like Alaska or something crazy. How are you going to have any connection out there? We're going to figure all that out. Shut up. Maybe, maybe we just figure out what's up with the Starlink going on. You know what I mean?

Okay. All right. We will figure it out. We'll figure it all out. Well, I have a lot of questions about the Sway Stream. That just happened. Okay. Okay.

So obviously, the elephant in the room, Jaden joined the stream. Yes. Yeah. And okay, there was so much... Okay, where do I begin? So Jaden joined the stream and you guys like hugged, you kind of talked it out, you had a little sit down moment. Was it all very genuine?

How did you feel? Do you feel like you got what you needed out of the conversation? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's kind of, I might sound like redundant or sound like I'm saying the same thing that I said on the stream, but I think It was a it was like a closure Experience, I guess in a way or like a good way just to come full circle, but I think that I

Think that like it was good for The boys to be able to get that out but I think more at least how I felt about it I felt like more it was kind of for the people that watched us on a daily basis and like support us so much and like got us to where we are in our you know separate careers to like give back to that more than anything else that's what that to me the whole stream was about like getting to give back to the audience that made Sway possible and everything so I think it was cool I think it was good. So after the stream you were like fuck y'all that was just for the fans I still hate you Jaden? No

no that's not what I'm saying. Way to put words in my mouth. No no no I think it's just like I said it on the in one of the clips like I think the toughest part about the entire situation was like not necessarily losing a girlfriend or something like that but more losing a best friend at that age is tough because you don't make a lot of more best friends after the age of 21. You know you kind of have your best friends that you've grown up with because know, you kind of have your best friends that you've grown up with because there's an aspect of being a best friend with someone that you need to have a history, right? Like that's part of being a best friend. You have those

inside jokes. You've known each other for a long time. Yeah, you can still make close friends and you might even make one or two more people that you consider a best friend. But typically those people that you have in that college relationship or those college years, which was like my sway experience, those are those people that you, you know, still see when you're 40 or you still have like these like meetups every year and go hang out with them. So I think that was the toughest part about it all. Like knowing that'll never get to a hundred percent again is probably like the tough part about it because you know, there's obviously a part of me that's like man I wish we all could be sway again or like I'll just be friends again and I'll go get to hang out and do whatever but there's never

gonna be a time where like, you know There's not something like in the back of my head or a voice in the back of my head being like Oh, you got to be careful. Gotta be, gotta be, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I can relate to that so much. I'm the best friend breakup queen. And it sucks because like you said, with best friends, there's so much history there and you don't feel like you can really recreate the magic. But then it's like even if you do amend things, like it's never fully going to be the same.

Yeah, yeah. So like, you know, I. I feel like I was able to do this dream and like I'm so past. Anything that like, I guess I would say, happened to me or anything that happened in that house, because I'm just so content with my life, you know, I'm so happy with where I'm at, I'm so happy with where I'm at. I'm so happy with who I have in my life, who I've surrounded myself with, like the person that I've become and I'm still growing into and becoming.

And I have an amazing girl in my corner that's, you know, my biggest fan and always supporting me. And I'm doing the same for her and trying to do that more and more. So it's like, I have so many good things. There's not enough room to like, hold like some grudge. There's not enough room. Like there's no need for that. There's no need for that. So that's really how I looked at it all was just what's the point of like having this like hostility or this, you know thing eating at me when I

I have so many things to be blessed for and like Enjoy and be grateful for and you know, that's from my personal life to work life to everything family Like people are in in good health. Everything's great. So it's like There's nothing nothing to be too concerned about. It's a beautiful way to look at it Jay Yeah, you know trying to grow up trying to grow up, trying to grow up, even though some people still call me, you know, a little brother that is picking their nose or whatever you said in the video.

But you know, whatever. Well, they asked me what the relationship was like, and this was right after New Orleans, when you were just being disgusting. I wasn't being disgusting You were being disgusting and you I just you do little brother shit where it's like this is An exact quote. Can we get an exact quote of what Bree said? I think I said Jay is like my little brother, you know, he does like the gross shit where he's picking his nose and stuff

But I love him and I love seeing him come into himself on the pod stuff but I love him and I love seeing him come into himself on the pod okay relax come into who you are don't be gross little brother shit right there prove my point I even come into myself point proven point proven I must be flexible as hell point proven busting okay? Point proven right there. Okay, relax. See? Enough. Enough. Disgusting, Bree. You're really like the little sister that... I'm big sis. I'm big sis. I'm big mama. Oh, you dude. That's just a lot of thing we've been saying. Have you been caught up to speed on the bad baby Danielle? Wait, what the hell bad baby in Alabama Barker shit?

A little bit. We reacted to part of the diss tracks on the stream, but price very quickly was like, they're both ass. So we stopped reacting to them. But I thought I thought that Danielle Bregoghi went crazy. She won't stop. She's on like her third diss track and Alabama hasn't even been able to get any out and she just keeps going going. And then Alabama made a diss track and dissed her baby, bad baby's little baby. She made a baby diss? She made a baby diss.

She dissed the baby. Oh, dude. I'm like, come on. Why are you dissing the baby? I just don't get it. That's obviously messed up. And, you know, you shouldn't diss a baby. But like, I don't think anything's off limits and disses though, right?

I guess. I don't know. I mean, if you pull out though, and you forget those are two people, right? Like those are two like human beings. If you just forget about that for a second, someone making a diss track on a baby, hilarious. Like that is really fun. Yeah. Like if it was directed, like just strictly like, I fucking hate this baby. That's, that is the funniest thing ever.

I. To write a sketch about that. I'm going to write. Yeah, I was just saying, I was just thinking like, that's going to be a sketch. And that's funny because we had a sketch idea where, like, there's this guy that keeps beefing with this baby, like the baby's like all cute and everyone thinks it's so cute, but the baby keeps like giving like Side-eye looks to this guy even like kind of like steals his girl

Like it does all this stuff and like the guy starts like arguing with the baby But obviously no one sees the baby doing anything crazy. It's just this guy like cussing out a baby. Um That's crazy that she she dissed a baby. Yeah It's it's pretty tough to watch. There's just no coming back for for her But Danielle just keeps going and going and going and I'm like Alabama Yeah, it's pretty tough to watch. There's just no coming back for her, but Danielle just keeps going and going and going. And I'm like, Alabama, I think you just need to wave the white flag.

Right, right, right, right, right, just give up. Yeah. I think my favorite part about this whole situation has been the meme that's been built off of Landon Barker just doing his little like dance. Yeah. Anything like that. Yeah, anything like that Me and the boys made a video that and people thought I was people thought I was bullying land

They were like wow Bullying land. I'm like, what what are you guys talking about? We just did the video and tagged him and like Yeah, Landon's also like a friend of mine. Yeah. No, that's not bullying. I think that's just like getting in on the jokes with Landon. But yeah, I feel bad for Alabama Barker, honestly, because there's no coming back for it. And I feel like she's this is just going to be like the shit stain of her life. She's just going to be the bad baby dish for Miss Whitman.

Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I mean, you went against you went against Gucci flip flops. I don't know why you did that. You can't go against Gucci flip-flops. Ash Trevino is getting finger blasted on live. What? Yep. OK, so on TikTok? On TikTok live.

And it was like just going the stream was going. She was like she was live streaming with someone. Okay This is like what everyone has gathered. This is what everyone is like assuming was happening She's like on live with another person and she keeps like talking and there's someone in the bed with her But then she keeps making like crazy orgasmic faces and like can't keep them to herself and then she like try to come back to herself and then make crazy sounds and crazy faces and And then she like try to come back to herself and then make crazy sounds and crazy faces And yeah, she's just out of her mind and that brings me to Brie Olsen on the live stream. What the hell is up with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, um not too much of my girl Gabby not too much on my girl Gabby

She said that she's gonna bitch slap Gabby She's gonna slap Gabby the only thing that's getting slapped is her ass behind bars from child protection services. Go take care of your... What did Gabby do to you? What did Gabby do besides sit there and look pretty? Do you think like you really are... I don't know what it is... narcissistic, egotistical, delusional, schizophrenic, maybe. In what world do you think you're on Gabriella Morris radar? In what world? What I can tell you, not this one, not this multiverse. There's no world Gabby even knew who you were or had ever heard of you in her life until after we got

out of saddle the whole like she was looking at me the whole time come on nobody in that place was looking at you the whole time I can tell you that right now the only time someone might have been looking at you was to be like damn woman put on some clothes all right so relax relax take a step down um and first of all I'm sorry you've never seen a healthy relationship but All right. So relax, relax, take a step down. And first of all, I'm sorry you've never seen a healthy relationship, but you know, when two people really enjoy each other's company, they typically stay close together. She wasn't following me around. She's enjoying my company. I hadn't seen her. You were streaming for three days.

I hadn't seen her for three days. All right. So you'd better just watch yourself. I know you don't know what a healthy relationship is but that's what it looks like that's what when two people are in love that's what they look like so anyways yeah we were there we're at saddle ranch um and i i just go to walk walk outside and we have you know like the saddle has always been good to the sway boys the owner there everyone there they've always been really good to us So we thought why not end the sway reunion stream with going to saddle ranch. I loved that. That was really cool. I thought it was like, you know, the boys had brought it up and we were all like, yeah, let's do this. Like this is a cool little way to, you know, end this.

Actually, I had my friend, Johnny Guas text me and was like, yo, we saw you're doing the sway stream. If you guys want to come to saddle, pull through. Like you still have like your black card there because I had gotten a black card at Saddle Ranch one time. Oh my God. That is so LA influencer. You have a black card to Saddle Ranch. Yeah. And they put like something crazy, like 10,000, $15,000 on this card. So like, wait,'s that. So shout out saddle first of all. But we're there and you know, they give us this big middle table like that we're sitting at because we have a huge group with us. We're like productions all there, crews all that. Everyone's there. And I'm walking through and she like shouts out some comment along the lines of you know, like if y'all keep walking into my table

Y'all gonna have to buy me drinks No Don't Not do that. So we just kind of kept walking and I told Anthony, you know that same thing I just told you like all we walked by in this random person like I didn't know we didn't even know who she was until we got the download of Ash Chirvino two episodes ago one episode ago because the whole internet was talking about her so we like I watched a documentary on her on YouTube

so that I could fill you in because the whole internet was talking about her and then like I briefly I think they talked a little bit about Brie Olsen in that, but like, no, we didn't. In the Ask Trevino thing. Yeah, yeah, like we didn't know who she was. And I didn't really know who she was until this live stream when she said she was going to slap you and Gabby. So like. I didn't know who she was when I was there. The live stream, yeah.

Yeah, I had no idea. I knew you didn't because you didn't know who, when I was explaining Ask Trevino, I so barely knew and you were clueless so like you didn't know who she was at the stream then there's no world where Gabby knew who she was during the stream you know I had literally zero idea so I mean still wasn't a fan when I didn't know her and so I you know I tell Anthony like I'm like some random person asked her drink like what the hell and then I make a joke to Anthony and I was like I'm like some random person asked her to drink, like, what the hell? And then I make a joke to Anthony and I was like, I was like, first of all, like, we're out in public with some clothes on, you know what I'm saying? And then he told me the story of.

Was she naked? I don't really remember. I honestly just I think I just had a few bevs in me and I was getting a little, I was just like, you're being a little mean. I was in a mode, you know, I normally wouldn't condone that still kind of don't, but because she said you would, she would slap you and Gabby, then I'll let you say it. I 100% condone it. You have a kid. Go take care of your

know, I agree with that. I agree with that. You don't I am so backing myself and I will I will double down, triple down, quadruple down, I'll send tipple down. No, I'm not, anything's on limits with this guy. So anyways, then Anthony kind of gives me this rundown while we're outside and he's like, yo, this is this person, they have like this like house or whatever. It's like I think it's something like the run away from their first born house or something like that. I don't remember exactly. But it's like this crib. And so she had like left her baby daddy to K and like this guy with the kid and

then like made these false claims on it was like this big crazy story. So I was like, oh, wow. What the hell? W2K, W2K. So we were just like running around making jokes about W2K all night long. And I see I tried to understand what does that mean? W is like a W like as in like a win. Yeah, I know. But what's 2K?

2K is the baby daddy. Oh, I was. Oh, my god. I was thinking the basketball game No, no, no, I was so fucking confused W2k the game and the guy. Okay. All right w2k So that was kind of the the situation. I was really just run down from my source anthony and then That was it for the night. Like I never ran into, I never, I never saw her again. I never like, I mean, didn't really choose to associate either. So we were outside for a lot of the rest of the night, wrapped up the stream. And then

very quickly after we went back to the crib because Gabby was flying out that night to go to Puerto Rico. So yeah. And that's that. I was that then my sister made a video. I saw that I texted Gabby immediately when I saw I was fuming and I was like, I'm going to make a video. But then I was like, you know what? I feel like that's what she wants is everyone to like talk about her.

But this is a weird side quest. Last night, Stiney went and did a live stream with World of T-shirts, right? And he FaceTimes me. I just think it's Stiney. I open it. It's World of T-shirts. I'm on the stream and they say, Bri. And then someone like puts in the chat, and they were telling me to come meet them at the bar. And I think they thought it was Bri Olson because someone put like spent $15 to say in the chat like tell that scamming ass hoe that the restraining order is only good in LA County. It doesn't count in New York City. I'm going to come meet you at the bar. Me and my goons are going to settle this.

You scamming ass hoe. So I would assume like when I put everything together, I would just assume that would have to be about Brie Olsen cuz LA County I don't have restraining orders on anyone Brie. I was like what the fuck is going on? Get me off of this live stream Yeah, that's wild. That's wild She has a lot of enemies I think oh, yeah, she does no I just thought I was answering a FaceTime to Sinead and then he opens it in its world of t-shirts He tried to get me to come to the bar. Listen, he has pancreatitis now and stuff I don't I just want him to get better. I was kind of stepping out of that

Is it is pancreatitis like can you catch that? Oh, no, I wasn't staying away to catch it I just I don't think we should be promoting his drinking You can't catch it's not like syphilis. Wicked. Yeah. I don't know. It's probably not wicked. I think it's wicked bad.

Yeah. Get well. Yeah. Get well soon. Also, speaking of the stream, just we'll call back to there was a lot of production. Who's that camera? Who was that production guy?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The boy. People were talking. production. Who's that camera? Who was that production guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was that boy? The people were talking. I mean, I'm pretty sure the last time I looked, there was an edit. If I look up Sway.

I think I reposted it. Wait, what? There's like multiple, multiple videos. Like I seen one with like 250,000 likes there's one with like 80,000 likes it's woman about this man I mean he's the hottest he's the sway boy that I had my eyes on oh my gosh boy that never was a part of sway he was the missing sway boy but um yeah his name is kim kim cool him interesting i am he's brazilian don't really kim rocha you could have a brazilian girlfriend i

could have a brazilian boyfriend you could do that yep and they say shoot a shoot kim what's up with you wait what, what did you say? We could do like Carnival together. That would have been a really funny, timely video for you to update. Like if you would have made like... I know, but I don't think it was out yet. And you did like the Sway cameraman. Like that would have done numbers. That would have done numbers. Well, should have thought about it. Talking about streaming, I think we should eventually do like a BFF stream.

I know. I think what could we do? I want to do a cool one though, too. Like you want to go to the ocean. Like we should do something insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, definitely. I think like if we have to do a stream, we should let the listeners pick. Yeah, maybe the listeners in the comment section right now give us some ideas of what they want to see us do. Drop a stream. Like a 72 hour. What's like or like or like.

I'll do 72 hour. Would you be able to do 72 hours? Yeah, I actually owe the people 72 hours. So yeah, let's do it. There we go. You heard it here first. Give us ideas. Maybe like somewhere in the wilderness or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. Give us ideas. Maybe like somewhere in the wilderness or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. That's fun. We have to make fire and we have to catch fish and shit. Yep. I guess I just stole that from your survivor idea. That's okay. That's okay. It's whatever. We can figure something out. The listeners will give us some.

Yeah. Okay. Cool. So I'm glad the stream went well and no one got slapped. No, no one. No one really got on each other's nerves too much. I feel like everyone was pretty pretty chill. I saw Bryce starting to lose it. Bryce and Blake were starting to lose it a little bit when Quentin was just, you know, being the JBL speaker kid. Like he was just walking around with the JBL speaker the entire time, like playing music. And it was funny because he was just playing his own music. Wait, that's a go promo. It also wasn't released music. It was unreleased music. So it's like nobody, nobody, nobody

can like, no one can like sing along, which like the first time they were showing the unreleased music, it was cool, you know, cause we're like, Oh, like we haven't heard this. And like, you know, they start going through the list the second time and it's like, okay, all right, no, this is still dope. This is dope. I like this. And then it's the third time and you're like, all right, all right, we've got to, we got to like, we got to play like something maybe that everybody knows. Yeah, maybe switch it up. But he's hoping you guys learn the lyrics by the third time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants us to know the lyrics. And then, you know, once the seventh time in a row comes along, it's like, all right, maybe we turn the speaker off now. It's three in the morning. Yeah, let's turn it out.

I also saw what else one more thing from the stream. Dixie showed up. She felt a little ambushed by Bryce and Griffin in the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. So Jayden, I bomb. Yeah. Jayden dropped a bomb. That was obviously before she had arrived.

But the whole ambush thing, I think, was completely misunderstood because I had Dixie had said something after the stream that was like, I knew I was coming on to be recorded. It didn't have to do with the it didn't have to do with the Bryce of it all or him coming up. It had to do with like, I think something to do with getting mic'd up and like the mics going up her shirt and down her shirt. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like the Bryce coming up.

She knew that. Like she was expecting that. How do you not expect that? Yeah, she's coming into a live stream. And she was so into, like she was so funny and good on the live stream. So I think, yeah, people enjoyed it. And she said that she really enjoyed it as well. Yeah, fuck yeah.

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Did you see that Dave is with them today? I don't know who the food boys. Oh my god, Josh. They are so we got chub perm nonchalant No name and McLovin it's these four boys that are like middle school age maybe like freshmen in high school and they started a podcast where they just talk about food and they went viral because where they just talk about food and they went viral because essentially the comments are just the funniest fucking thing in the world and like everyone dissects all of their banter and they're literally just like yeah ketchup's kind of fire i like cauliflower like it is just bad and they are blowing the fuck up and dave went and did a pizza review with them today look at his instagram

story right now i have never seen seen Dave look so happy in his life. He's getting his sense of youth back with these boys. So he feels like he's with the the sway boys again. Yeah. This is his new. He's going to have a new podcast. This is why he left BFFs. Yeah. He's going to start this. He's going to start this. BFFs. BFFs Jr. Yeah. This age gap's too much, though, D, come on. I'm excited for that. Oh, this your boy, Braxton?

Yep. Trade it to the Texans. I actually texted him. I was like, gonna be excited to see you playing in Houston. Hope you're pumped. That's a it's a great team. It's a great team to go to. That is a good team. Great team.

I love the Texans. Super happy for Braxton. Happy for Alex. She loves Texas. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if they're going to do the move. Wonder if they're going to, you know. No, she's she's no way she's going to move, but she'll definitely visit him all the time. Yeah, yeah. That's good.

They're always on the road anyways. Yeah. They're always around. Talking about Texans, another Texans fan is Sketch. I saw you posted a story about Sketch. That was my close friends. Oh, that was my close friends. But we can go into it if we would like. No, I mean, if you want to keep it to your close friends, you can. I think Sketch is hot. This podcast is called BFFs. I think sketch is hot. What was I told you the whole time we were in New Orleans with him?

I was like, I have a crush on sketch. I told sketch I have a crush on him. I think he's hot, funny, cute, hilarious and nice and smart. You posted I don't care what I think he's hot. OK, I didn't write all that I wrote. There was okay. So sketch played in. I don't care what people say.

He's hot. And then she posted an edit of him playing in the soccer tournament as the keeper and she was like, man and under the post under the post. She said, I don't care what people say, but he's hot. It was the video of his song. I don't care. He's hot. And then she was like, I'd let his balls in.

Okay, that's crazy. I can put I did not fucking say that I'd let his balls go in my net. Can you I mean, that's funny, but no balls in my net. Stop it. But he played in the in the tournament balls is like that sketch. That's what she said. Okay, gloves to hold your balls sketch. That's what she said.

I wouldn't put on I wouldn't put on gloves to hold your balls, sketch. That's what she said. I wouldn't put on, I wouldn't put on gloves. Okay. Gross. Stop. I just think he is adorable and that edit of him, he's a smoke show. I don't care. Sketch is the best. I've never had better interactions with a human being.

And yeah, I said it. I can't believe you just aired out my close friend story like that. I honestly had no idea it was your close friend story, and I'll even make this worse. I didn't even see the story. I was told about the story. Who told you? Gabby. No, it wasn't Gabby.

It wasn't Gabby. Who the fuck would tell you? I'm trying to think of who's on my story. I think it was Blake. Blake is not on my story. I think it was Blake. Blake is not on my story. Blake Hooker? Blake Hooker? Who is Blake Hooker?

I think it was B. Hunt who told me. He didn't show me. Oh, because Grace is on my close friends. Oh, so maybe it was like a trickle down thing. It was a trickle down thing. Yeah, well, wow wow guess my love life is the talk of the town yeah yep no I just love sketch to death so if you're not married by 40 and you want to get married sketch yeah nice

yep do a lot of shooter shoot this episode yeah yeah yeah but what's new uh okay I've actually never shot my shot ever publicly with anyone. No, I'm just being crazy. But what's new? Uh, yeah, what else do you want to talk about? Man, I mean, any other guys you want to... That's what the show is now. You think I'm dumb enough to tell you anything, you dumb dirty hoe? I wouldn't even tell you what color socks I got on.

You already told me what color shoes you had on. Yellow. Not the socks. There is a lot of Barstool drama that we're not involved in, so it's kind of cool and fun to see. It's different. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it.

I saw a little clip of it and I scrolled by. OK, do you want me to fill you in? It's kind of funny. Yeah, I want to be filled in. I was assuming you were going to fill me in because usually you have a you know a little bit more of the finger in the pulse of the bar stool drama. So I was like, I'll see. But this one is in Chicago. So I came up on my feed and there are two girls in Chicago

King Krabby Patty and Ella and There's this boy Nikki Smokes who dated King Krabby Patty for a while. They all work at the office together. They dated... Is he trying to be Tommy Smokes? What's with the name steal? Yeah, that is a name steal. And no one can do it like the real Smokes does it.

So I don't know. But... They have beef? Does Tommy Smokes and Nikki Smokes have beef over who threw smoke? I think everyone knows who the real Smokes is. And Tommy doesn't have beef with anyone. He's just a good guy. I actually have to invite him to my party after this episode.

Okay. But anyways, Nicky Smokes, the second Smokes, he dated King Krabby Patty for a while. They're like on and off, but they still work together. They're still friends. Ella, King Krabby Patty, are friends, girlfriends, like friends that are girls, in the Chicago office.

So there was one day where Ella went and got drinks with Nicky Smoke's, King Krabby Patty's, ex, and she turned her location off. And King Krabby Patty noticed that she turned her location off and she was like, that's kind of sketchy. We're friends, you turned your location off and you went and got drinks with my ex. And then it kind of all unfolded at Brandon Walker, rest in pieces, funeral. And everyone went crazy.

She kind of freaked out at Nikki Smokes. He freaked out at her. The Ella girl was like, no one wants to fuck Nikki Smokes. And the crowd erupted. So there's beef. What do you think about that? What do you think? I want to see your take. You're an outsider that has no idea about these people. Okay, so say, hmm, how

do I, how do I put this because you're a boy. So I get all of this. Um, weird to turn off the location. That's what I'm saying. Like the location thing. If your friend like you and Gabby broke up, Blake goes and gets drink drinks with Gabby and turns the location off. Yeah, no, that would never we wouldn't be friends. That's weird. The location turn off just feels unnecessary if nothing's happening. Yeah, exactly.

You don't turn off your location if you have nothing to hide. Yeah, there's no there's no like what's your excuse. Oh, I didn't want you to get mad. So what you're going to never tell me. So you're going to lie to me about it. You were just going to not ever tell me that you guys went and got drinks. Fair. That's also fair.

That's also though. Devil's advocate, though, I don't really know these girls friendship. So like, I don't know if she was like, she was just like stressed about it and she's like, we're not that close. So I just don't want her to think anything of it. I do believe that Ella girl when she says she doesn't want to fuck Nikki Smokes, because I'm just going to go ahead and believe that one. And no shade, no tea. But I don't know. I think just don't turn your location off and maybe it wouldn't have been weird. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta, I gotta say that's strange.

I mean, if you were, if you were friends, if you consider yourselves friends, like good friends, super weird. Yeah. That's, that's what we don't know their level of friendship. So I don't know the drama unfolded and unbusted and I'm, I'm just glad we weren't there watching it. Cause awkward. I would have loved to have been. Oh, I hate secondhand. I get secondhand like anxiety from that shit i can't even watch nilk prank videos i think i would i would eat that right up you would you love that shit i i think i wouldn't love the the setting you said it happened at the funeral yes but he's not actually dead

happened at the funeral? Yes, but he's not actually dead. Oh, phew. Yeah, it was not- oh yeah, we should clarify that. He's- it was a- it was a fake funeral because his contract was up and he was like leaving Barstool and he was present at his own funeral. I- I-

I don't know if you noticed, but I was like smiling when you were telling the story and then you said alright, I went into my serious remorse face. I went I Didn't even fucking think of that. I just assume everyone knows. Yeah I went into my okay. It's time to get serious. Let's have some room. I went You are trained well, let me not just like that Little a little tear all right p Brennan Walker. No, he's alive and shining. Okay. Okay. Wow. Threw me for a loop. Threw me for a loop. Yeah. That's good. That's good stuff. One more life.

One more mouth to feed on this earth. Man, I mean, we touched on it, but congrats on Elite Daily. Oh, thank you. It was a fun little piece. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were cool photos. Yeah, it was fun. Like, did you have something stuck in your teeth? Why was your fingers in your Thank you. It was a little piece. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were cool photos. Yeah. It was fun. Like, did you have something stuck in your teeth? Why was your fingers in your mouth so much?

Yeah. They told me to pretend that I was checking, like pretend you're getting ready before the photo booth instead of like actually the photo pictures. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So those hands was all up in those.

All in your mouth. Yep. Hand used hand sanitizer at least that day? Yeah, for sure. Oh, we do have the direct quote. He picks on me like I'm his older sister. He's so annoying and gross. The little brother where it's like he's picking his boogers, but I love him. That's, oh yeah.

But I said nice things. You can watch my progression throughout the show. I gain confidence. Oh, the nice quote about you is on here. Is that about yourself? No, there's a nice quote about you, but it's just not on here. I said that it's really nice. We already went over this to watch you come into yourself.

And I don't like to say it anymore. Did you? I know. I went to London. You did. You interviewed Lola Young. Yeah, and it was friggin awesome. I can't wait.

My new show comes out next week, so stay tuned. It was awesome. We already have so many cool guests lined up. It was so wait. My new show comes out next week. So stay tuned. It was awesome. We already have so many cool guests lined up. It was so fun. London was awesome. Peyton almost got stabbed. Terrible, but turned out great. She didn't get stabbed.

London and the Knives, they just love shifts. They love shanking people. But yeah, we need to go BFFs in London. All right. I'm down. Yeah. I think that's everything for BFFs in London. All right. I'm down. Yeah. I think that's everything for BFFs corner, right? Cause we talked about Sway. Yeah.

I think we hit it all. Oh, but before we get into the next portion of this, it's Lil Nas X. I just want to say we were in LA and we interviewed him in person and I have never met someone with such like a genuine warm aura. He was like the sweetest, most precious person. And I just like felt safe in a room with him. And it was really fun to interview him. So I just want to say I really love Lil Nas X.

And I'm really excited and proud of him for this new era. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a good pod. You guys sent me a clip and I looked flabbergasted That's all it's hilarious But no, I I had fun filming that pod. So enjoy it. Yeah, a little nausea we go Are we doing headphones? Oh, yeah, we always go through this like what it's up to you if you like it better I might take I'm gonna take one off. I don't know. It's up to you. You're your musician So maybe you know, I'm gonna take mine off. I don't really love it. It's up to you. You're a musician, so maybe you- I don't know, maybe like, I hold it like in a cool way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. No, it's up to you. If you wanna wear them, you totally can. Okay, let me do it. Okay, love it. It feels right. No, it looks good too.

You look good with the headphones on. Yeah, yeah, I kinda have like a headphone vibe, huh? You do have a headphone vibe. Yeah, I can see that. All right, we're good to go? You good? Yeah, yeah, are these on? I don see that. All right, we're good to go. You good? Yeah. Are these on? I don't hear anything.

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it needs to recover so you can get yours at a local 7-Eleven or on Amazon today. This episode's brought to you by Body Armor Flash IV. Let's get into it. All right guys, welcome back to BFFs. We have a very special guest. We have Lil Nas X, this is your first podcast ever. You're an icon, we've been listening to you,

watching you forever. We've talked about you on the show a bunch of times. Good. A lot of good things. We talked a little bit before. All positive. We love you. No, seriously. We're always team you. So we're really excited to have you here. So you guys have no negativity on the show? Oh, we have tons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, we shit talk. We should talk for sure. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Are you a shit talker? Not in, you know, public, but yeah. We all shit talk a little bit, right? Yeah, just a little. But we kind of get into it sometimes But we try to play like devil and angel when we talk about things. Yes. So why do you guys call it best friends? Well, because the whole the start of this podcast we used to have someone called Dave Portnoy on this

Yeah, who Dave is and the dynamic between me and Dave was like I'm a really young kid He's really old, weird matchup, it'd be weird for us to be friends. And so we kind of went off that and called it BFFs because it's like, we were the opposite of that. We didn't know each other at all. He was like 40, what, 43 and you were 19? Yeah, when we started the podcast.

And then you guys, when did you guys get together? And then Bree joined in like four weeks into the start of the podcast. It wasn't like, there was something missing when we were doing it doing it just me and Dave we needed the female perspective is what it was So then Bree came in podcast flow was way better. He hated her and left. No We did the podcast together for like four years all of us He just like this year. He was like I'm too old to be talking about This young drama all the time. He felt like a grandpa.

Yeah. That's sad. I know. We miss him. I miss him too. I know. I didn't see him on the show, but I miss him. I know, right?

I think he misses us too. He said the last time he came on as like a guest kind of coming back, he was like, I've got no one to talk to about these things. I see drama on social media and I'm just walking around my apartment. I got no one to talk to. So I have a surprise for you. All right. Come on out.

But you have your new single coming out yeah, yeah, I do it's fire I listen to it It was amazing. Well, I listen to your Instagram video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a lot of the comments. It was cracking me up It's like he's finally being gay like we're done edging like it's he's finally here. I'm like so excited for it Yeah, pause on homosexuality for a second You took a little pause. Yeah Yeah, yeah making my return to it. I know it's been it's been a little bit I feel like when you were first introduced to the scene you were like everywhere and it was immediate like you blew up Fucking crazy when you first stepped out which my wasn't hard like to immediately start and you just blow the fuck up

Um, it it wasn't really it was definitely it was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was super exciting, but The main problem I had was I kind of got everything Connected and and I got every person that was around me from like the same period and it was like this fast And then I didn't have any time to settle and pick people like that I wanted around me you know what I mean yeah so that like gave me the problem of being afraid to let people go around me even though I'm like okay this is Randit's course you know I mean and that's you know that's why I kind of took like a really awkward pause between like like here and back in like 2021.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So I didn't even realize it had been that long. Yeah. Time fucking flies. It flies. And you were like, seriously, always in the news, always in like you were just, you were that guy, you still are. But it was crazy to just see you kind kind of step away and I guess that's the reason why you just kind of had to figure yourself out you're the people you kept around you like your circle 100 yeah but you know now everything's right good I'm ready to you know show my ass pop pop my um vajayjay a little bit yes I need that like I feel like we need that I want to see that the JJ pops

Like his little snippet when he's in the pinkies you're in the pink car So back and even like dream boy like what I love about you and I think what makes you so different from a lot of other artists is you bring like Comedy into your art as well. Like you yeah, I was gonna say like the level of How much freedom does your like PR team give you because it's got to be quite a bit, right? because like it seems like you get free reign with the the creative control like you put in such a higher level of Production value I think, into your promotion, even if it's when the Dream Boys coming down

and talking to you and that whole little bit you have going on. Are you the one coming up with everything? Is your team helping you out? Are you having to go behind the team's back a little bit, just host it? What's that look like? I've never had to go behind anyone's back.

I kind of just do my own thing, and my team kind of helps me out a lot here and there. Like I'm very much in charge of my own storyline and my own story and I want to kind of like keep it that way no matter like what's happening even like in like my down days of just like, oh I'm not sure exactly what to do but I know I don't want to do what you want me to do. So yeah, yeah, that's awesome. So it's you. It's awesome. It's me. It's me. But I'll never, you know, it takes a village.

Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. And like, do you do you ever have like a crazy idea? Because you've done a lot of crazy shit and you've said a lot of crazy shit. Like in a good way, you're just like kind of out of pocket, which is why I think people are attracted to you and love you. But was there anything that you've ever pitched where team was like you can't do this For certain and I cannot say it on here because you understand why they do it But yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had some ideas that would maybe like too far, but I'm pretty much done with that era of

Forced I don't, kind of like forcing things to happen. Yeah. I just want to like naturally do it, put my music out, have fun, do my shit. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think like when you were doing like the crazy outlandish shit, it helped your career like to bring a bunch of eyes to it, whether it was negative or positive?

For certain. And a lot of it, you know, there's still like a lot of authenticity there like with okay this is what I want to do like this is the vision in my head I want to do this but you know here and there I'm just like oh this is maybe too much um on my mental you know what I mean and yeah so I got to this place so I'm just like okay I'm, I'm not doing this shit anymore. I know I can make this work in other ways. And yeah, so here we are. Yeah, because essentially, he didn't need all the crazy, you have bangers.

There was a lot of crazy shit surrounding him. But I like to have fun. That's the thing, a lot of people see my fun as, I don't know, too much disruption, but that's what art is. You know what I mean? corruption you Go out there You make some fun. You ruffle some feathers here and there but ultimately, you know, you do your thing

Yeah, do your thing. Yes, you want to do and it like separates you from everyone else in your category 100% and you know, that's everyone else in your category. 100% and you know that's the goal you know. You wanna be yourself as much as you can. No matter how hard that is sometimes. Yeah, because when you first started, I don't think you were like 100%, I don't know, stepping into your sexuality

and then like you did. Definitely not. What was that like? Was that really scary for you? Or how did that come about where you were like, I'm gonna own it, I'm gonna like be who I really am Um, I think even more gradually over time even to this day. I'm still just like, okay now I can like kind of Be even more myself now kind of let loose a little bit more and it was like gradual over time because I'm like

I'm like this boy who was 17 in my parents' basement and didn't really have much of a social life. So young, 17, holy shit. Didn't have much of a social life and then it's like boom, it's like now everyone in the world knows me and it's like, okay, let's kinda keep it together. And it's like, I don't know, it's like you're holding

a bunch of coins in your arms or something, right? And trying not to let them fall out. And that's my personality, you know what I mean? My personality, and then I'm like, you know what, fuck it. I'm me, you're going to fuck with me or you're not, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. So how the fuck did you start?

How did you go from 17 in your parents' basement to this phenomenon? How did that happen? It actually started because of procrastination, actually. OK. Procrastination is good. Procrastination can lead you to some good places. So I was supposed to be taking my class in college

because I had got a C in math. And I was a computer science major. You cannot get a C. A computer science major? Okay, smart. But the thing is, I thought I was going to be able to catch up with it, but in college you only get so many assignments. And I was like, what?

We're only getting 10 assignments? You don't even give me a chance to get this up. So I was supposed to be taking that class and boom, I get on YouTube. I'm like, oh, I'm bored. Let's make a song. and then I was like, okay I want to put this on Twitter and people were liking this song and then boom four songs later I'm really into it. I'm just like, you know what? I fucking love this. This is what I want to do with my life and then

Blah blah blah doo-wee-dee-doo-doo 13 song Then I'm the horseman and yeah, so they were 12 songs before Old Town Road. Yeah. Yeah, okay Lucky number 13 Taylor Swift was right. She's always bright. Oh my so what does that look like though? You just get a call from Hollywood like okay Billy Ray Cyrus or yeah It's it's real it was me like posting my song and like a bunch of memes and stuff Okay over and over and then getting like friends to like join in and I was also just like really on top of like the meme shit on like social media and stuff and then

boom TikTok starts to like bumble and then this becomes like this phenomenon on there and then it's like Twitter, TikTok then it's like boom the TikTok, then it's like, boom, the world. And then getting calls from every label in the same week. Yeah. Because I feel like you really were in the middle of this like perfect storm where like COVID was going on. TikTok was becoming massive. And then because you were one of the first people that I think had their music go so viral on TikTok to a point where it was like, yeah, right.

Because there was like a couple people, but you really, I think also use that. Like there was the Arizona song or guy as well that had something blow up. But like, I don't think he capitalized on it the same way you. Hey, hey, that's my brother. Negative, not in a negative way. I love you. It's just look at that. Look at the statistics.

You know what I'm saying? Like you were able to go on and like continue to capitalize on this. And I think to your point, you understood the meme of occasion of it all, right? Like you were able to go and take that song, put it into so many different places on TikTok. That starts blowing up and trending on there as TikTok is starting to trend. It's this like perfect storm where you were just able to ride that, which was pretty crazy to see. You actually knew how to work social media. I feel like a lot of artists like they hire teams to like come in and run their socials but you you just like you like Twitter you were funny you are like you knew what you were doing which was cool.

And then Billy Ray Cyrus what the fuck. Yeah that's really sick. It wasn't really sick. How did that come about? Oh that's enough old-time road talk. Let's move on. Let's move to the drugs and stuff. You want to ask me if I'm on drugs or something? Yeah, sure. You want drugs? No, I'm not on drugs. People thought you were.

Well, okay. So these are the things that we talked about on BFFs before with you. So we had old headlines. This one was crazy. The Lil Nas X boycotts BET. Jack Harlow makes a statement. So this was June, 2022. I love this. Recently Lil Nas X has been more vocal about his history with the BET Awards after receiving

no nominations, which is fucking crazy after having some of the biggest songs of the year. So you tweeted, thank you BET Awards and outstanding zero nominations again, Black Excellence. What was this like? Talk us through it. Zero nominations again, black excellence. What was this like? Talk us through it. Jesus. Well, honestly, I'll be honest. I think I crashed out a bit right there.

I think, I think genuinely I should have just been grateful for all the shit that was already happening in my life and like let that pass through. But it was like a moment of, I'm sick of this. You know what I mean? 100%. I guess, cause it's like, you know, we all say like, oh, I don't need to be accepted by everybody,

but no, I do want to like be accepted, especially like within like my own community, you know? So after like going there and performing a song, like for the first time, like that was the first place I performed like call me by your name, you know? And I don't know, I thought like it would give me like, at least some kind of like leverage

where they like Showed me some love so So it it definitely like hurt a bit and you know, I'm usually like, haha I don't give a fuck. Yeah, but but yeah, and that made me like Say something about it. So yeah, I mean I if I were in your shoes I probably would say crazier shit like I I don't know having that like pressure on you, what that would feel like. And then to feel not like snubs, but in like you said,

like that's your community, you performed and you're like actually having some of the biggest hits. I could see that's a valid crash out. Yeah, it's definitely like, I don't regret it, but it's like where I am right now, I wouldn't do it. I'd just be like, you know what? It is what it is. I'm not dead. It's not gonna kill me. There's more opportunities elsewhere

Go where you love, you know what I mean? It must have felt good though to see a friend rock the yeah Shirt there like like what's that friendship with Jack like? Me and Jack we're kind of just like I guess like very like cordial like we hate each other up every now and then I really love like what he's doing like I love the new songs He's putting out and whatnot and I like I like how he carries himself and like how he treats his private life You know, I mean, yeah, it's like let me edge into ease into that a little bit more They don't need to know everything about me. Yeah When you come up so fast

I feel like you kind of want to be in everyone's faces and you didn't really know how to, I wouldn't know how to treat it. So you say everything, you do everything and you make everything public. Yeah, but then you said it happened at 17. You're young. Yeah. And then you have, then you take a step back. You're like, fuck, regardless of what I say, you have that thing in your head where like, I want everyone to like me.

But then you find out that's never going to be a thing. There's always going to be people that don't like you that talk shit and then it's like okay maybe I do need to be private maybe this is why all these celebrities don't say where they are doing it's like a double-edged sword yeah I think I think that's what these last like few years I've had time to reflect have really taught me the most you know like let's take some time for yourself let's make sure you keep your family life as your family life and it's not like the world's and it's, and it's um, let's do things alone, you know what I mean?

Let's go to the movies alone, let's go to get some food alone, let's really like practice self-love and making sure when we step back out there, we're stepping back out there for us and not for the external validation of it all. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like as a performer, because sometimes we go through it too, just your job is people looking at you and like ingesting you and you want to almost do everything for them. It's like you want to do it for the viewer. And then it kind of gives you like a warped perception of yourself. So I think that's really important for you to do that and want to do things for you. And it will show in your art. It has already.

Yeah, because now you're like full like you're you. It's like you're coming up more as yourself now when you're doing those videos, when you're doing those trailers, when you do the music. I mean, when you pop in that pussy, like it's like popping that. It's like, this is what he wanted to do. This is him. Like mean it's like popping that it's like what he wanted to do this is him like it's really cool to watch yeah yeah for sure um I really hope the world sees it and

understands you know that I really only come from a genuine place there's no ulterior motives or anything yeah I think you could feel that. I mean your energy just is, I feel like you're just like a warm hug. It's good. It's really nice. It's refreshing because you meet a lot of people in this industry and you're like, oh you're a little scary. And it's funny because people, when you went through the phase where people were like Lil Nas is the devil. He's satanic. And it's the opposite.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Meeting you now, it's completely different than I think a lot of people would perceive online or whatnot. But that is a part of, I think, so many people's careers is you watch them transition into different versions of themselves as they come more into themselves. Like we continue to say on this, like you grow up online, people are going to see change and they got to realize that. I feel like sometimes people don't realize how young the artists are that they follow or how like new to the space or the environment that they are.

And they want to like judge them on that one action or a couple actions right when they begin. Yeah, you got to let people evolve or else what is the point of any of any of this right isn't that what we're all trying to do is evolve and become better people and learn who we are and be happy in this world like one million percent. Yeah, um I definitely get it too though you know like a lot of people's like perception of me it's based off of the things they know me for the most and be fair yeah and that's what a lot of people know me for and I can't like be like oh no they know me for this

because I did those things yeah I don't regret doing those things just so there's no confusion I did what I did yeah yeah yeah that's what we always say it's like we're the ones that opened ourselves up to it right we post ourselves online we got to be able to take it if we're gonna give it, right? You can't get mad when that's the biggest thing. It's like, oh, that was the biggest thing. You knew what was gonna happen. You also just gotta like focus on the good.

I mean, like there's a lot of people, most people like, you know, really like fucking me when I'm out in public. You know, people like showing me love. I'm not like getting like stink faces. I mean, every now and then. No, but that's the funniest thing about it all. It's like the hate is always loudest, on the internet so loud in person in person it's just it's all nice sometimes sometimes it's those exact same people that will be talking shit about you

I know like hey can I get a photo? yeah well it's like would they jump on like the popular whatever the bandwagon is it's like it's mob mentality so it's like oh if everyone's agreeing with this or saying something about this I want to hop on it I want to be a part of the popular thing 100 and it's way cooler when people have their own opinion and they're like actually critically thinking so whatever fuck them I hated when you were going through all that shit cuz I just think actually you're so cool thank you I appreciate that yeah I think it I think it was for the best though it really helped me look inward, so hey. Yeah, what was that time like,

like when all of it was like the satanic shit or like Lil Nas' the devil shit? What was that time like for you? Like just as a person behind closed doors? I guess, I mean, to be honest, I mean, if we're talking about the very beginning of it, like during the call me by your name talking about the very beginning of it, during the Call Me By Your Name era, it was kind of fine because I was able to distract myself with all the

other stuff, all the good shit that was happening. It was like, okay, my music is doing well and my fan base is growing and the love is coming with opposites of all the hate that's coming, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, yeah. You know, the songs were huge, like, Call Me By Your Name was huge. Yeah, and you know, it was just like, I was also just like focused on my album and stuff.

I'm just like, okay, let's keep moving. Let's put this next song out. Yeah, I feel like it really hit more like last year, you know yeah, cuz it was just like a kind of like down period and I was kind of like changing teams and and My life was completely being moved around and stuff So I like had like a lot of time like think and I was like damn Am I a bad person? Should I've not done that?

You know, I mean? And I'm just like, Montero, relax. It is what it is. Yeah. Well, it's when you have that, because you are moving so fast, and once you finally get downtime to reflect. Then you're sitting with.

Yeah, you're like, wait, fuck, did I fuck up? But then again, it's just the shit cycle of reminding yourself of what people said, the bad shit, like it's the shit cycle of like Remind reminding yourself of what people said the bad shit the negative. So then you're like, wait, do I think that or am I just feeding into it? Yeah, it's shitty. But I mean fuck it now you have a cool fun song coming out It's like what I feel like this is the new era. It's a whole new era for you. I'm fucking excited It's gonna be so amazing. You can feel it. None of the hate is gonna get my attention. No, no, no, no, no.

Do you think there will be hate with this new era for you or do you just kinda see, you think so? I think hate comes with anything happening. Yeah, anything successful or anything good that's happening. You could, people hated Martin Luther King, you know what I mean? People hate, I don't know Gandhi or who else like I don't hate Gandhi Mother Teresa maybe

Oh my god. I'm joking, I'm joking. I love her. I love everybody. You do not love everybody. I don't. I hate so many people. But I like, I love Mother Teresa, obviously. But that's true. So with this new song, was there any inspiration or like who, who were you like taking, I don't know, not notes from, but who were you looking to and like this space right now that you kind of like Really admire I think I think a lot of this new era is inspired by a lot of the things that I grew up on like back in Atlanta like the Southern like rap music and also like back when I was a kid when I would watch like Disney and stuff I was talking about earlier like um Just like the fun of all of that, you know what I mean? I guess you'll see that more once you see more of the rollout and stuff. But also just like Nicki Minaj, who, who I actually like had a fan account and stuff for. Oh, you had a fan account? I had a Justin Bieber fan account.

Yeah. I love it. Yeah. And you know, like it's very much inspired by my childhood and you know, like my younger life, I really want to let my inner child like shine this era. And I don't want any darkness over it. And I don't want any, I don't want like any thing that feels negative for me. You know what I mean?

So yeah, it's bright, it's colorful, it's pop, it's love. That's what I really want. That's what I really wanna do for this time around. Hell yeah. Just love, love, love, love, love, love, love. You know what I mean? I love that. Yeah. And I love that you said pop. The pop girlies are on top.

Like pop is so back. Do you like pop? Yeah, of course. Pop is back. Pop is so back. She's fresh and she's in so many different areas. I know. It's everywhere. It's like coming through country. It's coming through every single thing is it's pop now Yeah, and I was a hater. I was a pop hater and now I'm like it's all I listen to who you listen to it

I'm like right now. I'm really really obsessed with Loli Young like she's one of my oh my fucking god I just love her entire aura everything yeah about her She's so dope like she reminds me of you in a sense of like 100% She's just her She's so her doesn't give a fuck Unapologetically like the way she dresses the way she talks her makeup her music like yes I like her performances videos on Instagram and stuff. Yeah Yeah, I love her. I think like she is just so cool. So she's my favorite pop girl Who's your favorite pop girl? I think you're going to

Who's my favorite pop girl at Who's your favorite pop girl? I wanna work with her one day. I think you're going to. Who's my favorite pop girl? At the moment. At the moment? Yeah. Hmm. Well, Dochi, even though she's like rap, but she's kind of taking over like the pop space.

Yeah. I'm really happy to see her shine. You know what I mean? Me too. I've been watching her like do her thing for a long time and kind of like bubble under. And it's like now she's like being embraced by the world and it's like really really amazing to see you know this this dark skin woman who

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jackpocket.com slash tos slash free slash tickets slash promo sponsored by jackpocket based on 2024 ios download data collected by Sensor Tower. Anyone that you looked up to or loved and you met them and they've like really helped you throughout like, I don't know, coming into Stardom or just like someone you've met that you idolized and you're like, oh shit, that was cool. Who's actually helped? I've met a lot of people, but I don't think, I don't think many people like helped me. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't, I don't think so. I don't know but maybe this is a lot how the music industry is Yeah, I mean I try to make sure I can do that for certain people like friends and stuff who are getting into music and stuff I try to do that. But Yeah, I don't think I was I don't think I had that and that's fine, you know, yeah So would you say it's a like an intimidating space or a really competitive space where you think maybe people want to help you but they look at you as competition maybe? I think it's a bit of both.

It's like the people on top want to work with the people on top. People in the middle want to work with the people in the middle and the people on top. Everybody wants to work with everybody that's winning and doing their thing. And I guess I get it, it's nothing wrong with that. You should do what you want to, what you feel is best for your career at the end of the day. Yeah, but I mean, overall, I still think it's very,

everybody's still in their own space. It's like, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, I'm over here, you're over there, you're over there. It's not like, not everybody's holding hands and going to like the secret meetings together and shit except like oscar parties and shit where everybody links up But yeah, yeah. Yeah, everyone's kind of just doing their own thing. Yeah, did you help doja? Perfect the meow on the carpet or did she help you with the now? Who was helping who with that doja? I I mean, she's meant for meowing. The cat, the last name is cat.

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't a competition. I couldn't, I couldn't. Was that a joke that you guys talked about beforehand? Like, yo, we gotta do this on the carpet. Was that like a dare or a lost bet? I had no idea she was gonna show up as a cat, right? When I, I was, I think I was on the way there

and I was like on Instagram or something and I saw her as a cat. I was like, no fucking way. I was I think I was on the way there and I was like on Instagram or something and I saw her as a cat I was like no fucking way Did you plan that outfit like what what goes into that if I'm being honest a few days shut the wow I'm not kidding cuz it was something else It was something else at first and I was like, ah, I hate this is so like you were Don't show me that else at first and I was like I hate this. The picture of it is so like you were head to toe. Don't show me that. It was oh don't show me that. You don't you don't like that. You did it. No I love it but I don't want to see it in front of people. Okay we won't we won't show you we'll

just look at it. It's erased from my mind it's erased from my mind. So that was two days out. I have to tell you a story about that? So I was in that outfit, right? And I remember going inside of the Met, because that was at the Met. I went inside the Met and I saw Bad Bunny. I was like, yo, nice to meet you, Bad Bunny. I said, finally meet you. And then we talked for a few minutes or so. And then, I don't know, Bad Bunny was like, well, I'm not going to spill his business.

But it was nothing crazy crazy by the way just So I walked though I walked away and I could never get the picture out of my head that I was walking away and like bad bunnies Like sin might like bare ass like covered in like chrome I like literally woke up in the middle of the night thinking about it He probably woke up in the middle of the night thinking about it Probably woke up in the middle of the night thinking about it as well What was that first Met Gala? Um, that was the second one. That was the second one What was it like to get invited to the Met Gala for the first time? It was sick

I was wondering what they were gonna do I was like is this where we're gonna like drink the baby blood or something? Just the actual thing that happens there. But yeah, it was really it was really dope though. I never expected to get to such a Spot like that so fast you know I mean it was like overnight. I feel you were just like at the Met Gala Yeah, I was just like oh doing the Met again. This is fucking cool, and I'm naked reason again this is fucking cool and I'm naked for some reason. And I'm only meowing.

I thought they would never invite me after that again. I was like yeah they're not. I'm like I'm not getting here next year but lo and behold. Yeah I think that's like what the Met is is to get those like insane moments out of it. Like what Jared Leto with the cat. He was a cat one year. He was a cat too? Yeah he was an actual cat. He was in a cat too. Yeah, he was an actual cat It was a cock. He was a crazy cat costume Oh, yeah, took his crazy cat head off like I feel like it's there for those moments and when you were just meowing into a microphone It's fucking awesome. So did you plan that like in the moment too? Yeah, I think that was more in a moment

I mean, I'm very obsessed with spectacle still, you know, I mean, yeah, I like things that They make people go. Hmm, you know, I mean, yeah, I like things that They make people go hmm. You know what I mean? Or it's like Some some reaction, you know, yeah like oh this makes me feel this thing This makes me feel that thing that doesn't usually happen here. This doesn't go there. You know, I mean, so yeah. Yeah You got to like making people say what the fuck it's always fun Yeah, I mean and then people talk about you whether it's good or bad It's just it's cool. It's kind of the point. It's not fun. It's a space Yeah, you got to have and like you said back to you saying like being disruptive. It's like it's part of your arc

So yeah, 100% you got to do. I don't know what it's gonna make people entertained I guess you know Also stuff that you wanna do. I wanted to do that. I wanted to do that mainly because I was like, in this era of like, like that whole like 2023, 2022, I was like, okay, I wanna do things that I'm gonna feel scared to do and feel embarrassed about

and I wanna go through with it anyway. So I wanna like train myself to be okay in embarrassing, anxiety-ridden like situations situations and it's helped me a lot yeah you know that's so yeah hard to do and we were talking fucking a little bit before like we started podcasting we're talking about like you have a lot of anxiety and you're just like pushing yourself to you're basically giving yourself more anxiety but it's helping you're saying but that's the thing though I feel like my anxiety is decreased so much over the past year like it takes time to like get over the hump

But I feel like I'm very much like you know far More more far along than I was before you know I mean yeah like even just like right now I wasn't able to like talk in interviews like freely as Before I guess I was just like oh oh I don't want to slip up and say the wrong shit. But now I'm just like, hey if I do, I'll be fine. I'll figure it out. I've been through worse shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Well you're doing a great job so far. Talking well. Talking well. I know. It's great. So you would say just pushing yourself into

maybe anxiety-ridden situations has helped you get over those humps? Because I think a lot of people struggle with anxiety and to hear someone of your stature also struggled with it, you can help a lot of people. Yeah, I think it's very important to do, but also still give yourself space. When it feels like it's way too much, yeah like back the fuck up and go and sit down and breathe But I do a lot of like talking to myself like actually like talking to myself out loud and say okay What is wrong? Why do you feel this way? Who are you afraid to be embarrassed in front of right now?

What are you so shy about right now? And then it's like you got to come back to the idea that We're all like shy. We're all we all get embarrassed we all get self-conscious the prettiest people the most talented people the The most you know star athletes the most like braggadoce like type of people everybody it's impossible And I'm not saying that all my anxiety is gone. I'm free. You know I still get fucking anxiety, but I Just I know how to handle it better now. Yeah, so yeah I need to try that like talking out loud because it almost makes you feel like so silly It's like why who are you afraid to be embarrassed of right now like I feel like it's really you talking to like your inner child

You know I mean because it's like a lot of the stuff you're afraid of all this stuff like stems from your childhood So it's like hey little me what what are you afraid of right now what makes you shy about this thing you know even with that video that you said you saw you know I mean for a minute I was scared to be more like flamboyant and stuff and it's like oh because I don't want to feel like embarrassed in front of this group of people and that and it's like so I don't I don't care to feel like embarrassed in front of this group of people and that and it's like So I don't I don't care anymore. It's like I'm like you okay to do it I'll give myself I literally go in the mirror. I'm like I give you permission to do it I give you permission to look right and be embarrassed about that thing. Just go through with it

Yeah, that's something that I always think of to like when we're children when we're kids. We're like so fearless there We're not afraid of anything. We're everything that we wanna be in, you think like you get older just because of age, but it's because as you get older, like it's the society pressures on you. So all that we're thinking about is like, is the society pressures. So just take yourself out of it.

I'm a kid again, I can do it all, I'm not scared. So fuck yeah, that's good advice. Yeah. Yeah. That's really good advice. Thank you, thank you. So with the new song coming out, is there anything you want people to know about it? Like anything that went on behind scenes or like?

Oh my God. Yeah, actually. So this is like, this is the hardest thing to do for the reason, because you know these last few years have been like really like tough for for me, trying to figure out, okay, what the fuck do I do here? Where am I going?

Who are my people? What do I want around me? What the fuck don't I want around me? And I had really, I fell into this relationship, and I was in this really great relationship, and I felt like this is everything. I am so in this relationship and I was like in this really great relationship I felt like you know, this is everything I am so in love. I still do love the person and then you know, I realized that it was at a place where this person kind of like also was filling the void of

The external validation I was usually getting from the world and once we like broke up It was like really hard and I literally almost missed the video shoot I skipped the plane I wasn't gonna go for the single yeah for the song and the video I fucking love it it's fucking tea I know the world's gonna love it but it was gonna be I wasn't gonna be there because it was shot in a completely different country and cuz I like spent like like four days at home like crying and bawling my eyes out and just trying to get myself together. And I'm just like, you know what?

I know it's been really hard and I know you want to give up. Let's just go and whatever happens, happens. And so I went there and I got there and shot the video and things have been pretty much on and up since then, you know what I mean? It was like that darkest hour before done kind of then, you know what I mean? It was like that darkest hour before dawn kind of moment, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh shit, well I'm sorry we went through that. Yeah. That stinks. Can you imagine taking every other 20 minutes to go and cry in the bathroom during the video shoot? Everybody's like, everybody's like,

can we finish? And you're like, we have to cry. They're like, oh, can I just, I just need a cry break for a little bit. Were you telling them that you were going for a cry or was it just a lot of bathroom excuses? Oh no, I just, uh, too much water. Yeah.

Just drink a lot of water on the plane. How long ago did you shoot that? Uh, shot it in December. December. Okay. So like, how long did it kind of take you to get out of that hole of like the breakup and coming into yourself and um pause it took

It took me I feel like it took a few weeks and it was also kind of like I was still like contacting the person for a minute And then you know, I was like, okay We just need to like not talk at all because no contact. Yeah, and it makes all the sense Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world hard to do no contact though, but if you don't do it You're it's it's just drawing this situation out Or and now you experience like a little less pain But just for a lot longer and then the big pain still gonna come at the end you just you can't just delay it

Yeah, you can't delay you can't get never worth it, but no contact It's like but I mean it's over to it. But no contact is like, ugh. It's like, but I need to talk to you. I know. Rip the band-aid off kind of theory, you know? No contact, band-aid's hard. But it was also kind of my first time I actually completely went through with that. It's like, okay, I'm not checking the Instagram.

I'm not going through the old pictures. I am focusing on what's right in front of me. I'm focusing on my music. I'm focusing on my magic, on myself and healing like my inner child. Cause I feel like the worst of it is kind of like ego, you know, and feeling like, damn, oh, why me? You know what I mean? Then it's kind of like, hey, if that happened to you,

maybe there's something better on the way for you, you know? Cause it's happened to me multiple times in life. It's like, oh, I'm fucking up in college. Oh, here's fucking music. And it's like, okay, I came out the closet, I'm not sure what to do. Well, let's put it into the music. You know, it's like, continuously like,

trying to make the best out of a situation that now looks grim. Yeah, well, it's like stepping stones. Sometimes it really is, and it depends on how you look at it. Like, you could have been like, I'm not doing the video shoot. situation that now looks grim. Yeah well it's like stepping stones sometimes it really is and it depends on how you look at it like you could have been like I'm not doing the video shoot I'm gonna cry I'm a bitch I'm my heart's broken but all those things are true but I'm still doing the video I'm gonna go fucking do it and I want to cry while I do it but I want to do it but I want to cry while I

do it a lot I'm gonna cry a lot he's so fucking did it so that's that's all that matters. Well, you know you percent can you tell us a little about the music video? No So do we have like a lot more music coming out or we just focusing on the single you can't help so I barely released any music the past few years like I know you singles here and there and I've been stocking up and load It up and I'm about to fucking let it fly you're letting it rip Tommy gun on our ass I'm excited too it's been really cool to like I don't know you've been gone and it's like you're dangling in front of us you're back it's like there he is oh my god this is like my first like kind of like

interview maybe in a very long time. Yeah, 100%. Thanks for coming to us. It feels very new, and that's why I really wanted to do it. So thank you guys for having me also, by the way. Oh, no, of course. Thanks for coming. Yeah, I mean, we're so excited to have you. We wanna have more musical.

We kinda like, before, we were sticking to the internet drama shit, and we were like, we talked in the beginning, we were like shit talkers. But it's really cool to, I don't know, we've grown our space, just kind of like how you have where we want to sit down with people we actually like really value and care about instead of just like shit talking and getting to know about like the artists behind the music so it's really cool yeah sick and cool I don't know what you want me say

to that you want me to say something I just like I just wanted to tell you it's cool to have you on you say you want me to say something I can say something I just like I just wanted to tell you it's cool to have you on you see you only say something I can say something like what would you say I say like hmm I'd be like you know what I wouldn't say anything I just like my head and I'll say yeah yeah yeah double watch you always wear double watches no I'm really into g-shocks lately so at some I literally had four on the other day you have four watches on dude Yes, I love you sucks. I wanted one so bad in sixth grade. I couldn't like get Great these are g-shocks. Yeah, this like the ice that one. Yeah, this one's iced out wait sick

You're bringing g-shocks back and we need to do a collab. You hear that g-shock Give it to him. Give it to him give it to him well do you have any other questions for longos um what was one oh I'd seen a video of someone throwing a sex toy on stage yeah was that that there were a lot of fans that thought that was planned there was a lot of people that thought it was down because music cut off at like a perfect time is that like another one of your fun like you, you know, let's make a moment here Or was that completely just a natural thing that happened? There was music stopping but that's because the music naturally stops right there Um, but that wasn't my penis that was still thrown on stage. That was

I didn't know about that. All right. All right there you heard it here first It was not his it was authentic and it was not his penis. Yeah, that was authentic and real. Well, I think that was the only other question I had. I just got this ex-boyfriend. Way to leave it off on a weird spot, but that's how it goes. Yeah, yeah. Well, this is like your first interview in a while.

Is there anything you want to say for your like hiatus, why you kind of were gone or just like what's next for you? I wasn't gone willingly but while I was gone I understand why the universe had me where I was, you know? And I really needed a lot of time to sit with myself and reflect on what I wanted and how I wanted to move forward and what I truly love and what I don't. And I felt like I was doing for everybody else.

So moving forward, I'm making sure my self-love is number one on my list before any of this other shit. And I'm excited. And I know it's going to be grand, and it's going to be big, and it's going to be grand and it's going to be big and it's going to be full of dreams being fulfilled and it's going to be full of love. That was inspiring. That was? Those are good final words. Those are good final words and listen to his new song right now. And listen to my new song. Right now. Plural. Right now. Plural and the video when does the video come out? Yeah. The video's coming out the same night. Same night okay so it will be out when this comes out. song right now plural right now and the video when does the video come out yeah

videos coming out the same night same night okay so it will be out when this comes out yes yeah so it's all out right now go all out watch go listen go watch go watch it right now go listen you are seriously a light I'm so excited that you're back and I'm sad that you left the space but it seems like it was warranted for yourself for like your mental and I think it's just another stepping stone and now that's a happen You're gonna go you're gonna go look at him. Look at him shine. Okay guys. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it Yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank you