BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - NIKITA DRAGUN ON THE NETFLIX HYPE HOUSE DOCUMENTARY -- BFFs EP. 37

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Nikita Dragun joins us from Miami to talk about the upcoming Netflix Hype House documentary, the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, and her makeup line Dragun Beauty. We also talk about Nikita's past relationships and her platform as one of the most popular transgender influencers, then finish with a game of f*ck, marry, kill.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

Hey, PFF listeners, you can find us every Wednesday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. All right, PFFs. Anyone you want to call out. Nikita Dragon, and she's asking what are we going to talk about, and we're like, you and everything. Whatever you want. You actually said she slings it. Yeah, I was like, Nikita's going to be a great guest.

Slinging it. Slinging it. Got it. Like, you want to be part of it? No, just like, whatever you want to say, you say. Got it. And go after it. I guess that is a term for like, sling it. Slinging it. Got it. Like, you talk. No, just like, whatever you want to say, you say. Got it. And go after. I guess that is a term for, like, slinging it, like, sex a little bit, right?

Well, let me just say, though. Oh, yeah, no, not that. Not that. It's an open conversation. Happy Pride Month, everyone. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I thank you guys so much for having me, for real.

I'm glad. I think we tried to have you on before, if I'm not mistaken. We were doing it remote. It didn't happen, so we're glad. Way better in person. I was just waiting for Miami. Right, right. I was like, wild right off the bat like yeah i do like how do you as a man how do you feel about girls with like nails is there like a certain like level i like them okay no i don't think you're gonna ever have like too much like that to me that's like you're gonna scratch. Yes, like in bed, right? I'm all right

No, I don't feel like this gotta be too long though. Like it's like out to like here or something Yeah, there there's some people that go like a little shit, right? God open up a fucking soda can or something So all right machine gun Kelly and he had there's like last week he had nails and he had spikes on the nails Kelly and he had, this was like last week, he had nails and he had spikes on the nails. Oh, sick. Now, if I was a girl, I'd be like, that could be problematic. Oh, that could be very problematic. That's a UTI. Yeah.

How do you wipe your ass with nails? Or just do basic stuff. That's my question. Really. Yeah, you can do it. There's nails. You know, you kind of just. You wrap around the hand.

It's a wrap. Cardi B's done a video about it. How do you stick your nails up your ass? I mean, like those super long. T-shirt. T-shirt. Yeah, I wouldn't say that negatively or positively. hand it's a wrap cardi b's done a video about it stick your nails up your i mean like i don't know yeah i won't say that negatively positive those would be a problem for sure if you're on that road yeah yeah no that's a problem all right so how do you guys know each other have you guys met before yes yeah i always met i think you came to sway house that's where we met yes i think yeah it's so hard with like the industry i feel like you just like you meet people like multiple I think you came to Sway House. That's where we met. Yes, I think so.

It's so hard with the industry. I feel like you just meet people. You meet people multiple times before you really meet them. And you're just kind of like, I know you, but I don't know you. Yeah, but I think it was probably coming over to Sway House. I don't know. I think Bryce knew you. Yeah, I've known Bryce for a minute. And you are, you were, however you phrase it, Hype House.

No. So why are you in this? Why am I looking at an unscripted reality series? I thought my ass was just going to be a fucking cameo. So are they going to make it seem like you're in it then? No, no. It's not even like that. But I think, you know, I have a certain personality.

I have like a spice to me, per se. Are you the only one that's not a member of the house that's in that Netflix show? No, I think Sienna, she's in it as well. Okay. She's not really part of that. She's not, yeah. It's kind of like, it's cool because I think a lot of people are going to be surprised about the series. It's not so much about the house itself. It's more so like people's lives and kind of

being intertwined and kind of it's kind of like the hills but like a new version. That's cool. But it's something to be really interesting. But you have your own Snapchat show. Yes. Yeah. You were flipping tables

on there a little bit ago. Very much. That was very dramatic. That was awesome. But you know, you guys know it in the industry, like it's like anything

for views. You need to. In a way. Yeah. Yeah. You have to like up the ante. Make it entertaining. You have to like

watch some boring shit. We were talking about that with the interns. Literally the same thing. Yeah. So how much then of what you would say people see you

on social or on camera is you versus you're just amping it up because you're trying to like, you know, be entertaining to get views? Oh God, it's crazy

because I think I'm 100% me all the time. But I think there's like certain times where you're just like, no, you have to perform. Like, you know,

I mean, obviously I'm sure you guys know you have to be like engaging. 100%. Doing this damn podcast five interviews after each other. Like, you know, you have to like, kind of give it a little bit. So what are you here for?

Because you're from, you're based in LA. Yes. You're here. I know he's, all the TikTok stuff fights. Is that why you're here? Yes, I have to come support the little TikTokers. Do you care about them? I do.

And I think that's, like, what's really interesting about this show is, like, it really shows people's, like, friendships. And I think that's kind of how I got involved into this like TikTok thing. Cause I didn't even have a TikTok when I came around everyone. And I think I came from LA that was so jaded and who are you? And like, let me use you that when I met actual real people, um,

some of them, I guess before everyone, not everyone. I made, I made genuine friendships. And it was dope. And I do care about them. And I think in a way, like with my journey, obviously being trans, like I've always wanted to experience certain things as Nikita, as like a fully realized woman.

So like I never got to be in high school, you know, as a woman. It kind of gives you that social life. Yeah. Wouldn't you agree? It's kind of like a high school. No, 100%. It's kind of like a high school. No, 100%. It's kind of like a college. So how old were you?

I'm looking at this sheet. And if anything I ask, I'm an idiot. Just be like, 2017. So what year, how old were you when you completed the surgery? When I transitioned? Yeah, when I transitioned, I was probably about like 18 or 19. So 18 or 19 puts you at, that's like high school, right?

Just out of high school. Just out of high school. Did you start YouTube pre-transition? I did. Yes, okay. I gravitated to social media because I was like, you know what?

No one even knows if I'm a dude or if I'm a girl. No one knows, yeah. And people would just treat me like normal. How you want it. I grew up in Virginia, so I grew up around Republicans

and very small, like, conservative towns. So, you know, if I wasn't, like, out cross-dressing chicken boys and shit, like, I don't know. So when you decided

to document it, was that, like, was that from, okay, I'm going to build a career or is that, like, out of you wanted to, like, give the world

a look into what, you know, that process is? Like, was it calculated? I don calculated i don't know i wish i had like a bigger concept of it of like oh i want to like you know teach the world whatever but i honestly i was just kind of frustrated like i think for me i didn't see people like myself in the media like a lot of times when they showcase trans people it's like a dude seven foot in a wig and it's like a joke you know so would that be and this could be where I'm stood because I don't know

where it starts like RuPaul which by the way RuPaul's totally nothing's off limits so I grew up with like RuPaul's

you know drag race that to me was like the preeminent hugely popular like so is that what you were just kind of referring because so the difference

between being a drag queen and being trans is drag is impersonating a woman whereas trans is you are a woman. Correct. So that would be sort of what, there wasn't the full, like, role model. Yeah, it was just so weird. And, like, everything I would look up in terms of, like, surgeries or whatever would be, like, on back pages or, like, different forms.

It was so secretive. And it was really just out of frustration. Like, I was like, you know what? Like, yeah, here's me? Here's me getting all these things injected into my body. Here's how I'm paying for it. Here's me chopping off limbs. Here's how I feel. Here's me getting kicked out of a party being in LA just for being trans.

That happened in LA? That's crazy. I wasn't thinking in LA. How long ago was that? That was probably two Halloweens ago. I've been in so many situations and I feel like when you're part of the community, especially being trans, like you kind of just like roll with it, you know? Yeah.

It's so weird. You gotta have tough skin. Yeah, it's so weird when you like walk into a party and, you know, people are introducing themselves to you and then all of a sudden all the girls are like, wait, that's a dude, that's a dude. Because they see like a guy talking to me and I'm like, I'm not even interested in the guy. So like.

Right. There's no need to tell him I was more of a dude. Right, right. Kind of like some sabotage shit that's fucked up but I get it it's like taboo and it's it's like a thing to talk about for sure I think you've changed it though for sure I mean I was gonna say like documenting the transition you probably gave a lot of people like faith or like the the confidence to voice like their, their transition or voice, like, their... One of the first ones to understand.

A hundred percent. And just make it a topic. Like, I feel like that's the thing. Like, same with, like, mental health. But, like, people are just afraid to talk about it, right? Yeah. It's like it's not a public conversation. So, like, people are uneducated, whatever.

Like, you probably educated a fuck ton of people. And it's cool, too, because, like, I think I have... I don't know. I've discovered so much not only about myself as just a person outside of being trans, but just, like, even interacting with people. Like, I mean, I, you know, was so ignorant and probably still am to so many different things. So, like, I didn't even know so much about my own community or whatever. So, like, I have the most, you know, basic conversation with everyone no matter what. Like, I don't care.

Even if they hate me and they, you know, they're, like, asking if I have a dick or not. No, that's the best way to go about it. I'm like, whatever, you know, like, I'll still, like, educate. So let me ask you that. And asking if I have a dick or not, I'm like, whatever. I'll still educate. So let me ask you that and if you're going to ask me anything, I'm like a normal dude. Anything. You meet a guy out,

totally don't know each other, you guys hit it off. At what point, or maybe you're not at all, where you're like, I better tell this guy the history. It's so weird.

It's so hard. It's got to be the weirdest thing. It's so weird because also too, as a woman, guys just come up to you, right? Guys just fucking come up to you. I'm vibing him out.

I'm like trying to figure him out, whatever. So it's like weird. It's like that question in your mind, like, okay, when do I tell him? Obviously when you're like physical with him, of course. But at the same time, you know, there was a time when I wouldn't tell guys that I was trans because why would I have to divulge all that information? And then all of a sudden they treat me different. Right. And how do you do it? It's so weird. I don't tell guys that I was trans. Because why would I have to divulge all that information and then all of a sudden they treat me different? Right, and how do you do it? It's so weird.

I don't know. If you meet somebody, it's not something just like... Hi, I'm trans. Hi, I'm trans. Yeah, it's like a weird thing to just introduce yourself as. It's like that's strange. You shouldn't have to do that. Yeah, right.

That's what people expect. So have you had experiences then if you've been physical with somebody and then after and they're like, what the fuck? Why don't you tell me? I've definitely learned my lessons. And obviously that's how like a lot of violence ensues, which is unfortunate, obviously. And it's just, it sucks that I have to live my life constantly

with that in the back of my head. And a lot of trans people do. But yes, I had a time when, a couple of times where I hooked up with a guy by the way and like he had no idea and this was like me like pre a lot of surgery so like i'm like how do they just like put that in there and then not like ask a question i feel around not whatever so like you know and it's kind of a thing in the trans community um some girls kind of get off on like oh girl like i was with a guy last night he didn't know like i had to when i

would do whatever and um yeah i mean there was only one time when i almost used it as an excuse like i wasn't into the guy and i just he was like some tech guy from like google and i was in new york randomly and i like was just not about him and i i said it in a way where it was very like okay let go you know i was like by the way's my face. Did you ever tell people when they were like, no, you're not. Oh, my God. Yeah, right. Yeah. Like, come up with a better excuse.

One million percent I've had it. I think obviously my journey and I understand like my story is like a mind fuck because I look the way I do. And, you know, I think a lot of, you know, people are just like, what? I was just trying to like be, be horny to you, but then I just found out you're a dude and my dick's hard. But do you have a dick? Like, da-da-da-da.

Like, it just turns into this whole thing. And for you, it's probably sometimes you don't even, like, the story gets out of you because you're known. So that's also, like, well, they're going to find out quickly. So it's like, yeah, there's, like, a time or something you can try to find out. It's crazy. So what is this past relationship? And we get our play sheet

put together. So past relationship rumored to be dating Tony Lopez who I don't know who he is but I guess I should because I love Survivor

and it says he was on Survivor. Oh, that's a different one. That's wrong one, I think. That's a different one. No, so she's dated. No, that's a different guy.

That's a different one. This is Tony Lopez who is a TikToker. Got it. Okay, forget it. I combined two guy. This is Tony Lopez who is a TikToker. Got it. Okay. Forget it. I combined two sentences into one. Tony Lopez is not on Survivor.

But back to Tony Lopez. Back to Tony Lopez. Yes. Were you guys ever dating or anything? No. I didn't think you guys were. No, no. We never.

I thought it was more like a friendship. It was cool because I truly genuinely didn't believe I could be friends with a guy. Right. And that's what this whole TikTok era of my life this past year has taught me like i can why beef why i just men only viewed me for sexual reasons and especially discreetly and behind the scenes or like guys is that like you say they view differently than like a normal not normal but someone's born a girl like they could for some reason 100 and i think in a lot of ways i kind of um demasculinize a guy so So sometimes when I'm around a guy, he starts thinking and thinking and like certain different things like, oh, like, uh. I mean, I think it's kind of like the same thing with like some guys won't like feel like they can have a gay best friend.

You know what I mean? Like they won't be friends with gay people. Exactly. Yeah, they feel like they can't have a gay best friend. My mind's screwed up. It's like, oh, and this is going to sound, there's going to be so many things that they're like, oh, that was stupid to say. But my mind's like, well, you may may be like i don't have many girlfriends so maybe if i was gonna be friends with someone who starred as a guy because we may have more in common okay

we actually buy it we really buy it okay there you go all right so this one that i screwed up the sentence michael yorger, he was on Survivor. Now, this one. There seems to be some tension or something. No, it's just one of those things. It's something I don't like to bring up. I mean, it was just a situation where, long story short, it's a straight guy who I was involved with.

You know, we hooked up. We had sex. We did this. We did that, X, Y, Z. And certain guys don't like to be public with a trans girl and that's totally fine so that's why he's saying it wasn't real according to these notes so like how's that how's that make you feel when someone goes and says something like that do you like try to let that slide or does that hurt like i don't see how it couldn't it hurts so much and as you know having a platform it's like certain times you don't want to

put things out there on social media, especially for me as a trans woman. I just don't want that like double standard of like chastising a guy for being with me. But, um, with that one in particular,

it just sucked because, you know, he was making all these excuses. Like I paid him and we never did anything in this, but well, we never did it. I'm like, okay. Why would he pay like him? I would, all these excuses. Like I paid him and we never did anything in this, but well, we never did it. I'm like,

okay. Why would he pay like him? I would, I would pay someone $100,000 if they ever were able to show me paying for a sexual transaction or anything. That's not like, it's like, did anyone know who he was besides survivor at this point? Um,

no, no, no, no. So like, why would it feel like that was a no, no, no, but maybe, but no, no, no. I mean, you know who he was besides Survivor at this point? Um, no. I don't know. So, like, why would... I feel like that was a no, no, no, but maybe, but no, no, no. Well, I mean, you know.

Now he's dating the other. I know who that is, but that was after. Yeah, that was after. But they made YouTube videos together and stuff, so it looked real, which you... Well, she's saying it is, I believe. Yeah, what happened was I had a video where it said, I hire a boyfriend for a day. He's a model. So the video was, it was like a funny bit.

I get it. No, it's like people will do like Thomas did, like Becoming Addison Rae for a day. Yes. So it was just a content bit. And from that, him and I started talking more often. He stuck around. And I would hire him for shoots because he's a male model. But girl, we would hang out.

We would this, we would that, you know. He's using that as an excuse. What did you mean when you said Oh, here he goes. Like you about to be just as embarrassed as I was when you found out what he's really about. When you said that to Daisy. He's with Daisy.

That sounds like she's just calling him an asshole. Yeah, it's just, why is it nowadays guys are out here trying to clout chase and suck girls' dicks? Like, it's just like... There's a stereotype for girls that it's like, oh, this girl's trying to use me. She's trying to get my money, whatever.

But it's now such a different world where, like, these guys are going after powerful, strong women and using their energy and taking from them. But it's always, you know, the world thinks the opposite, which is- And then it gets turned. It goes both ways. Yeah. Especially with social media, TikTok, all that shit.

100%. It's, yeah. You see it in the TikTok world like crazy too. It's beyond. So many people baiting like people- And even too, there's situations where guys queer bait. That's a huge thing that happens nowadays, which I think people should be aware of.

It's like where these straight guys kind of go to either uh gay individuals or trans or whatever and they they like try to bait them and be like oh yeah i like you i like you for what purpose clout clout money whatever you know a lot of that because they post with you they do whatever they bring you places they bring whatever it is it's like oh okay you know like, oh, okay, you know, like, maybe I want to be official. Maybe I want to post a photo, whatever. But then the guy's like, no, no, let's keep this private. It's weird. Yeah.

All right. This next one. I'm seeing this next one. Come on. What is it? You got fucked by a ghost? Come on. Yeah.

I mean, it happened. Yeah, it did happen. Explain this. Explain this. I don't know. Are you going to write like this American horror story type shit I know I know

I'm a skeptic I'm a huge skeptic I'm a realist I'm like I just until I see something I don't believe it but when I was in Japan I was staying at

the Four Seasons in Kyoto it was really creepy really dark and I just had this like really vivid dream and there was like a guy in it

and basically I woke up out of the dream because like, he like fucked me. Like he, and I was like pinned, you know, like a sleep paralysis. Yeah. When you're like pinned and you can't move.

It was like that, but it was so vivid. And obviously, I don't know, maybe I can't speak for the whole room, but you know, being penetrated, you know what that feels like.

And so I'm like, I'm getting fucked by a ghost up the ass. And I'm like over here, like, uh, and then I went, but when I woke up from the dream, this is why I was like, okay, this was real or something. I felt the pain physically in my body for like the next, obviously like five, here's the thing though. That's, but I thought, I thought someone was in my room.

I thought someone was in my room like doing something to me or whatever. Have you researched it? Are there other people? Kidding you guys it is a common thing. I've heard of this more Ghost it's a demon people get fucked by demons. You got you got are you like gonna give birth to Satan or something? This is a story. I'm waiting for my ovaries to be active I'm waiting for my ovaries to be active. I'm still waiting for my period. Have you talked to anybody else who said they've been fucked by ghosts? I haven't talked to someone.

I need a room of them. Because I've heard that in the whole office. So there's female ones. They're called succubuses. And they go for men. And that's what people call wet dreams. It's like in medieval times. They've talked about it forever.

But for girls getting penetrated or getting fucked, it's called an incubus. It like a male version of like a demon now when you went public with like yo i i got fucked by a ghost you're like oh people are gonna be like i know crazy absolutely but i mean the stories obviously it's a super long story but i was sharing a room with another girl and i did she wake up no no did she get get fucked no but here's the twist her boyfriend had died in college but I didn't know this I had no idea

who this girl was but I was we were on a group trip and I was why were you screaming she says sleep paralysis I woke up from it

like this like sweating crying sleep paralysis you're stuck yeah like I woke up from it crying

like literally in pain and then I'm freaking out. So this was her ex-boyfriend that died? Yes. Yeah. It was like the ghost of the ex-boyfriend, 100%. You know for a fact. Because in my dream, imagine if Josh is here and it's a different person,

but everyone in the room is treating him as if he's Josh. It was the same thing in my dream where it was a guy, and I vividly remember what he looked like. He was a white boy. Oh, so you weren't like in your bed when this is like, no, I wasn't. No,

no, I was in my bed, but I'm explaining the dream. Like I saw like a guy in my dream and that was who had like fucked me or whatever. And later on, come to find out, I,

this girl has a dead boyfriend and her boyfriend, she says he visits her in her dreams. And it was just this twisted thing because he was constantly filming her like in his apartment. He like bugged her computer. In real life? In real life.

No, this is real life. This is real life. Bugged her computer, was very abusive, would hook up with her when she was like sleeping at times. But when he died, his parents paid for a whole year

for his like apartment and stuff to be there. And it wasn't until after the year of mourning and everything that when she opened his computer and found all this shit out, she's like, oh my God, this man was terrible. Imagine mourning someone for a whole year. And then finding out they filmed you and everything. And did some stuff. And so I didn't know this until afterwards.

And when my friend had shown me a picture of the guy I was like that's that gives me the chills that's creepy well there's someone like we had what did we have we had some video that they thought

there was a ghost we reached out to it was not this it was like a cup moving or something so in the scheme you had I would say

you've had a very unique life do you think yeah do you think I have to put a body count for getting fucked by ghosts well I'm trying to think. Does that count as a body?

And I'm wondering, like, as you tell the story... I seem crazy. Are you like, this story, they're gonna look at me like, to me... Oh, I didn't tell anyone. I didn't tell anyone for a really long time. And then how do you bring that up? Like, you're having a drink and you're like, yikes. I just like...

I got fucked by ghosts, by the way. My life, I think it's a good story. It is a good story. Great, great story. If I look at my life, I would like either cry or I would like, or laugh. So I I think it's a good story. It is a good story. Great, great story. I would either cry or I would like, or laugh. So I'm like, let me just laugh. You gotta tell that story.

Right, right. I'm like, you know. Would you say that's the craziest story you got in your arsenal? Oh, absolutely not. I mean, how could you? I mean, in terms of like, you know, spiritual stuff, for sure,

because that's my only like spiritual encounter. No, like anything. Like you got fucked by a ghost. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, how do you beat that? What, fucked by like a snake or something? Yeah, how can you talk? Oh!

The way you said it, I got plenty more than that. I mean, I saw that headline, and I actually think I remember a little bit talking about it, but that is, I mean, I'm not, I'm the most pessimistic guy. Like, I have to see it to believe it. I can't believe it, but it's a crazy story. I am that way.

One million percent. Regardless if I just look at the situation, I thought I was just going to have a vivid dream and be awake. Are you glad that happened? Do you think you believe someone? No, absolutely not. Are you glad that happened? No.

That's a weird question. I guess it's funny. Are you glad that happened? Are you glad you got fucked by a ghost? It is a good story. If this is happening, you glad you got fucked by a ghost? It is a good story. If this is happening, if you can be fucked by a ghost,

I want to be to have that story. You want to be fucked by a ghost? I'll take anything to be honest. That's my thing. Fine, I'll get,

like, have sex with ghosts. Anything. If it's real and you believe it, to be like that party story, not a party, but to be, I don't care,

demon, whatever. I'll take anything. If ghosts are out there doing it? But it was a demon. I don't care. Demon, whatever. I'll take it in. If ghosts are out there doing it, they end up coming knocking on my door. I'm like, why could I have had a, oh, my wig flew across the room, the glass shattered. Right, you could have had some other mind-blowing story.

You guys wouldn't want that? No, I would want that. But I don't know if it was scary. Like traumatic? It was weird. No, imagine waking up and feeling the pain as if someone had just put a dick in your ass. That's horrifying. I don't know how that feels like. Yeah, I don't either, and I don't know if I want to feel it. I don't had just put a dick in your ass. That's horrifying.

I don't know how that feels like. Yeah, I don't either, and I don't know if I want to feel it. I don't know. Not dick, no. Yeah. Wait, you've had other things? That's a crazy story. Wait a second.

Take a finger. Pause, pause. You just said you have other things. You said not a dick. Dave, how do you have a dick? Yeah, I don't mind. Yeah, no, I don't mind ass-playing. Yeah.

But not like dick. Like, come on. We're grown men here. Okay. Come on, Dave. I'm on the record for that. Absolutely. The male prostate and the G-spot is in the ass.

That's what I've been saying. Come on. You just got to man up about it. Any thoughts? So did Sienna actually get removed? I'm curious on your take. Have you seen all this stuff with her? I have.

What do you think happened? What's your take on that? Or what do you think about it? It's just hard. It's a hard topic and I think, I don't know, it's just a very touchy thing.

I mean, I know for in the show, I can explain that like they were together and it was hard too because I think in the show, like a lot of people came with like plans

of how they wanted to be portrayed. Right, right. And you know, this industry is very They're going to cut it and do whatever they want. Yeah, and you And you know, this industry is very... They're going to cut it into whatever they want. And you have a show where people are all very savvy

on the show to build it. We watched it. Again, we only saw the clips that we saw and some people, we didn't have all the information. Is it out yet? Ours? The show episode? We were talking about this.

Oh, I meant the Netflix show. Is that out? No, not yet. Not yet? I think it's coming out. You're Not yet? Okay, okay, okay. You're a big car person. I love cars.

So what do you, are you like in a fancy car up front right now? No, Uber. And you match them to the outfits? To the outfits,

to the wigs. So what car do you have? Do you own your car right now? My favorite car is my Lexus. It's a 2010.

What color? It's white. It's my first car that I bought in LA. Because it's sentimental. It is. It's a 2010. What color? It's white. It's my first car that I bought. Is it your favorite one? It's my first car that I bought in LA. Because it's sentimental.

It is. It's very sentimental. Oh, and also the Corvette. The Corvette was sentimental because I had an ex who was like, if you ever bought a Corvette, I'd break up with you. Why? What? Because Corvettes are American cars.

They're so stupid. They're so cheap. And I was like, oh. I love it more. Absolutely. This next subject I've talked about and I was like I love it more absolutely this next subject I've talked about I have strong feelings and it's strange because I think even though so it's the Victoria's Secret fashion show yes what did you say about it I haven't heard so I've had strong feelings but I agree it's

I agree with what I end up reading through your quotes. I do not think the Victoria's Secret fashion show should have to apologize for who they choose for the women in the show. I think it's a capitalistic company and you're selling however you sell it to get women or whoever to buy their lingerie. Yeah, I agree with the lack of diversity. I agree with the trend. They have their right. They have their right. They have their right. They don't have to have everybody. If they don't want to put a plus-size model in,

I don't think they should have it. Right, because they're selling underwear that isn't really... They're selling a dream, basically. Yeah, exactly. It's a fun company. You got into it about diversity, and so I don't think if they said, hey, we don't want a trans woman in it,

I think that's their prerogative not to. I agree with what you said, which seems to be you weren't disagreeing with what i just said but no that they don't think you can move product yep to your crowd which i love that that is absolutely two different so totally different that i agree with you totally i've always been you know it's a private company and they really sell in their vision and been very successful at it. Right. So that, how do you feel about it now? The Victorious and all of that same.

I mean, I, at the time even too, it was just like, like you said, it was just to prove a point. It wasn't, they could, they can hire whoever the fuck they want. But if they're gonna say that trans women and plus size women yeah can't sell a fantasy that was that's the that was the quote right yep um that that's what i had a problem with and right um this is from 2018 it's a while yeah that was the video that like really took me to a different level and then uh it was crazy i mean the backlash and people did you get a lot of hate for that? I did from, you know, it just caused lots of Facebook groups.

You know how they are. It was polarizing. It was very polarizing. We got a lot of love from it too. Yeah, we got a lot of love, a lot of hate. And even too, like people are like, oh, well, you're not even six foot. Why would you think you wanted to be a model?

And I was like, I never said I wanted to be. You didn't say you wanted to. You were saying I can be more proud of it. I could just look cute. You said a trans girl can't do cute. You said I could look cute. If you take one random Victoria's Secret model, like just one of them, and they started in, let's say, a lingerie line,

and then you did, I'm going to say you're probably moving more product than that one Victoria's Secret. The flip side, if you see it from their perspective, which it's like what you do if you're them. If you're Victoria's Secret, you're like, I like this brand. Right, it's like what do you do if you're if you're them if you're victoria's secret you're like i like this brand i've right it's the brand image it's like it's like playboy in a sense right everything they've done so what do you you know what do you do if you're them do you if you don't

believe it yep okay what where's the in between-between? Then you come at them from a business side. You say your brand is sold worldwide. It's a huge brand. Why not sell more product? Sell different sizes. Sell this. Showcase your product that it can look amazing. And you can make a plus-size woman look like an angel.

Sell that fantasy. You're selling, you know, anyone can buy panties. You know, we as women, we go to Walmart to go get underwear. But why do we go to a tourist secret? It's amazing. It's the feeling. It's that sexiness. So it's like, why not have that accessible to everyone?

It's pretty much saying, like, plus-size women and trans should still get to feel sexy. Yeah, absolutely. It's like they should get to have that brand. Yeah, imagine McDonald's was like, nah, we don't like TikTokers. It's like they shouldn't get to have that brand. Yeah, imagine McDonald's was like, nah, we don't like TikTokers. It's like, it's the same thing. It's like, I like your product.

Like, why can't I just come up? It's really that simple. This is a question and debate and it's a more deep one. I feel like you'll be honest. They did try to sue me though. Victoria's Secret?

Yeah, they did try to sue me. For speaking out? Yeah, but they went about it a crazy way. So the house that I had shot the video in, I did this all last minute. It was like I spent like $20,000,

which I did not have in 2018 to be spending, to put this thing together. But I just felt so passionate about it. And so they went, they found out where I shot it at, the house. They were able to contact them, and the house tried to sue me for filming um in their house and like publicizing wow publicizing it and i was like wait what this is crazy like that's a clip right there nikita they're trying to sue me for my fucking yeah i'm

like they're trying to sue me for a cute you know quarter quarter of a million which is a lot of fucking crazy and then for you yeah but then when i when i found out that it was them from a corporate side going to you know the family of the house that was insane and the only way i got out of it by the way shout out to my lawyer i'm great lawyer um but i didn't i didn't post it on youtube i didn't make any money from it so she my lawyer was like well babe there's first of all it's a seven thousand dollar a night airbnb and she's like well babe there's first of all it's a seven thousand dollar a night airbnb and she's like well babe there's lots of people who take pictures guys so you are going to sue all the other people right posted on instagram yeah here's a question for you and this is kind of societal

issue and i feel like you'll be honest again and i'm maybe you'll convince me on a different side but this just recently happened in florida which you may have seen but the governor and this is an issue that goes on forever or not forever but it's been going on now for probably a decade, banned transgenders from playing high school sports. Women, girls. Were you aware of that decision? I was aware. Was it women going into male sports, or was it males going into female sports? No, it was...

So if I, as a trans woman, even... Why don't we bring up the boxing thing? If I wanted to box, would I box a male or a female? And they would, I think, say she could not box as a female right because they they're attributing it back that you love strength so what is i've and i i'm open i consider myself liberally but i get that like argument and maybe you're like well that's just not true what is what is your thought on that ruling because it was yeah a big deal i was here when they made it got a a lot of news at least.

I could see people's point of view on it because you think that, oh, this man is going to be a track star and, you know, facing, running against girls. So they clearly are going to be faster. But it's not that. I mean, if you think of high school sports, it's like, okay, if I'm, you know, if I wanted, for instance, I was a cheerleader, right? hey, if I'm, you know, if I wanted, for instance, I was a cheerleader, right? If I was in gymnastics, like how polarizing would it be if I had the courage to transition

as a kid in high school to know my identity, to be self-realized and for someone to be like, no, no, no, you can't be part of the cheerleading team. You can't do this, you can't do that. I mean, high schoolers have it rough enough and it's so fucked that it's like, do you really care if a high schooler

is running in track as who they want to be, as who they are? It's like, shouldn't we not think of everyone on an equal playing field in some regard? And also more than that, trans women or trans men are, you know, they're, they're, they're real people, you know? Totally. And their, uh, their identity shouldn't be justified in chromosomes and all sorts of other things.

So I, I don't know. It's a very i it's an interesting argument same as you i understand the argument but it's just like let trans kids play sports was it only banned in high school or was this was just recent i think they may be the first state to do it and was there what was the reason like there had to be something that happened right like the reason would be like let, let's take some of you out. But was there someone that went in and just dominated in every

fucking sport and that's why they made the rule? Was that the case? Or were they bringing it up because they don't want a trans girl

in the locker room Yeah, is it competitive advantage or uncomfortableness? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, because that's the fear too.

It's like, even with bathrooms, you know, someone might say, I need to use the male bathroom and trans people need to be banned from using, you know, women's bathrooms or male bathrooms. Right. And it's like, you really care about me taking a piss or like going to the bathroom? Is it really that big of a deal? The argument is, oh, well, you know, they're men and they're going to rape women in the bathroom

and they're going to, you you know go peep on a girl because they're a man you know that's crazy yeah that's a stupid bathroom exactly so i feel like a lot of times it's just fear and it's this like how active are you in these issues as they arise because you are kind of you know well known i mean i try to be very knowledgeable. I like to see all sides. I like to be informed. But it's hard at times because I feel like a lot of people kind of hold your feet to the fire almost on all sides sometimes. Because it's like, oh, well, you can't speak about this because you don't know anything about it. Or you're not informed or educated or whatever. But for me, I feel like it's important to have a platform.

I'm a super visible trans person and we i have to you know and i i love to and i like that's my cool like that's my thing all right we're back with talkies i see talkies all over the office now ever since we started doing this they're everywhere talkie fuego talkie blue heat rolled tortilla chips are as hot as our BFF podcast. I like this bag right in front of me, which is the fuego. So, yeah, try it. Like I said, not everyone likes things spicy.

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Oh, God. I've never been canceled before. What is it like? That's pretty good. She's making a joke. She's making a joke. Who actually, though? I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. What were you actually canceled for? I mean, the obvious? No, nothing. But who would were you actually canceling for? I mean, the obvious? No, nothing. But who would cancel you? No, right? Why is everyone laughing like I'm missing a joke here?

I think it's just like the point that it's like, how do you really cancel people? Like, if she doesn't give a fuck, how is she canceled? But canceling is generally when it's like, I feel like people

who liked you in the beginning turn on you and cancel you a little bit. Ah, whatever. No, there's like way I figured it out. Yeah, it's like, okay.

Let's go. Jake Paul. This is who we would. If we should cancel him, would you cancel him or not cancel him? It's up to you. We have to all play. I think you should start it off.

Jake Paul, I would not cancel him. He's really sweet. He's really nice. He's always been warm and accepting and so cool behind the scenes, at least. Yeah, I wouldn't cancel. I wouldn't cancel. I think he's smart. He's an entertainer.

He's crazy, but I wouldn't... As I've said with the Pauls, anybody who can stay that relevant that long... Yeah, it's respect. Oh, yeah. It's respect. It's respect, for sure. So we all agree there.

Dixie. Dixie. Yeah. I don't know how you cancel Dixie. It's hard. The snails. The snail. The snail thing.

It's almost like she has an issue. Why would we put her on there? Who would cancel Dixie? I don't know. People, like, are such haters these days. It's crazy. Okay.

All right. Bryce Hall. He's a homie. Yeah, I'm not canceling Bryce. I could lean towards canceling him. What? For what?

For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what. For what? For what? It's just a lot. I want to tear it down. But how is he more than Jake? True. He's not stabbing people's tires.

But Jake has earned it a little bit. Yeah, it did happen here. Wait, was there a towing service? Or did they get a... Could they drive? We don't know. They drove down the street and realized. And then it was towed.

Oh my God. Yeah, four tires. Four tires gone. or did they get could they drive we don't know they drove down the street and realized and then it was tow oh my god yeah four tires four tires gone so to answer I'm just saying Jake's urgent like he's been around for so long

right but Bryce has been around for a long ass time too so that's the thing I've only known about Bryce right but I mean like he's been around longer than I like I mean he was big

for a while before me true no no to me it's like you want them to go away that's almost like what we're talking about he hasn't done anything no he hasn't done anything around longer than I. Like, I mean, he was big for a while before me. True. No, no, no. To me, it was like, you want them to go away. That's almost like what we're talking about. He hasn't done anything. No, he hasn't done anything.

Hasn't done anything. Just before we have a war. I guess we'll figure out if we should cancel. And you had some Yeah, there's a little grimace. We used to be friends

at one point. And then what happened? Friendship ended. Yeah, certain people shouldn't be friends anymore. You don't want to sling it, eh? You don't want to

get into drama. so anything that would be good. You can ask him. Like, why you guys aren't friends anymore. You can ask him. Will you have

the same stories? I don't know. I mean, for me, I think there's a certain line you don't cross and when it comes

to real life, you know what I mean? People can shit talk and I feel like we all, you know, gossip or whatever. But when it comes into real life, you know what I mean? People can shit talk and I feel like we all gossip or whatever. But when it comes into real life situations that are untrue or rumors or whatever that affect your real life, I think that's when you... You cross the line for that? Yeah, when you cross the line. I feel like everyone should have boundaries.

Is the line blurred for him between social media or clout and fame and stuff and friendship? Is that what it is? What do you mean? As in, like, does he use his friends for the social media side and making money and profiting? No, no. No, it's not like that? I mean, but, I don't know. I feel like in L.A. in general, like, what I had to learn is, like,

people can be jealous of you or mad even if they have more than you, you know? Like, if someone has millions and millions of you or mad even if they have more than you you know like if someone's like has millions and millions of dollars or whatever you know they could still look at you and be like oh you have a vibe

you whatever and still feel some type of way you know it is the biggest difference so we're based in New York and I feel like that LA kind of social media

bro it breeds that feel it just doesn't it breeds shit in New York at all. It's not like that. It doesn't. Well, New York's also way more, they're front-stabbing in New York

where in LA they back-stab, right? So it's different. It makes no sense. I mean, I, maybe it's because I have a dude mentality 18 years of being a dude. I'm like, I don't like doing that like

petty nonsense or whatever. It's just like, it's not my thing. Guys can be equally as petty. I'm not saying that to be guy or girl, but I'm just saying that energy is just weird.

And in the social media world, it's weird. Even if you look at this fight in Miami for these two weeks, it's all LA. There's not a ton of New Yorkers. It's us, New York. It's us from Barstool.

And then all LA people. They're just trying to make a bag, right? Is it like real beef? Is it real beef Bryce makes it personal and Austin seems but there isn't really because Austin described

how this came about and it was like his brainchild and he went and like okay let's amp it up let's get crazy but it got personalized

when they started chirping each other it's super hard not to personally start hitting someone when you start fighting even if you're doing it

for show how do you go into a fight and not, like, have a real beef? Yeah, you've got to want to beat the fuck out of them. In the name of the game, you're selling tickets, getting the bag, so you're going to be mean over the top, and that's what's happening. Should we really get crazy? Should I box someone? Let's make it really controversial. There's guns.

Oh, she can't fight a girl? She has to fight a guy? Like, what? You know. Who would, like, your opponent be? I have no idea. Trisha Paytas? No, I need to fight, like, some people in the administration. Like, what? You know. Who would, like, your opponent be? I have no idea. Trisha Paytas? No, I need to fight, like, some people in the administration.

You know what? James is cool. What's the administration? I think it would be a good fight. Like, you know, like, I feel like there's, oh, no, we need to see

on, like, social media. I don't know. Who would I fight? That's what I'm saying. I think James Charles would be a good fight. But that's a, it's a boy.

Yeah. I don't know. I would fight a guy. I think you would beat James Charles up. I feel like, I feel like a fight shouldn't have to knock on the door of a guy. Oh, well, the fight a guy. I think you would. I feel like a fight is enough to knock

another guy. If somebody said, oh, well, the fight would be. Should I enter? I was like, remember when it was like question marks

on TikTokers? How much money would it take you to fight? To fight? What's the number? It needs to be more. Yeah, it needs to be more than I make,

making makeup, you know? Right. So it's going to be worth it. So I don't know how much. If someone said, we'll give you five million dollars to fight, would you say yes? I make making makeup, you know? Right. It's going to be worth it. So I don't know how much. I don't, yeah. But like, I mean, I get the fight.

If someone said, we'll give you $5 million to fight, would you say yes? At that point, maybe I just drop an OnlyFans. You know, I can make $5 million in a day. That's facts. That's crazy.

The fight that would clearly, and this is just after everything, is you versus Daisy. That would be like. Oh, yeah, true. Really? No, I don't have a problem with her. She's sweet.

You can't say that if you're selling the fight. Oh, right. Oh, we need to sell the fight. Sell the fight here. I'll fight everyone. Yeah. All right, next one. I like Trish.

That's the thing. I can't cancel her just because it's just like, I love when she just does some crazy shit. I like people who just. Sling it. Say whatever. Me too. She even tried sling it, say whatever they want. She even tried it with me, and that was fine. I was like, look, I'm always going to be a fan of you.

You talk a little crazy. Oh, she did. You guys got into it. She made stuff up. No, it was just out of left field. It was just for no reason. I'm like, why are you a hater? And I think of her so highly because I am a fan because she's funny.

She's hilarious. She's a troll She's Trisha Somebody who is that comfortable In their own skin Will say anything It's like It's almost hard to remember

Watching David Hasselhoff roast And like how do you roast A man whose entire life Is a roast But she is willing to say There's nothing you can say to her Because she's open And she's like

You can't really cancel You can't cancel someone that She does love me Shout out Trisha Shout out Trisha Call me like a weirdo for doing this podcast Yeah, I know, for real Tana

Nah, I ain't gonna cancel Tana I feel like we're not gonna cancel anyone She's also uncancelable Yeah, it's like I get these are controversial people But I feel like we're all gonna say no to all this Yeah Unless they throw someone back in there

Tana would be the type that's like Please cancel me Yeah, yeah, please Please do it So I get more comments She is something She's a god She is the God Yeah, I'd be the type that's like please cancel me. Yeah She is Center of everything everything that comes up it starts. I'd say yeah on that too. Is that all? Yeah No, I want to cancel someone you can't say Jeffrey I

Feel like he's canceled himself enough times. You know, sometimes people just cancel themselves. He, I remember, like, he would have been my number one person in charge of, it's like, top, top star when I found out. I mean, I felt like every girl in the world was, like, obsessed with him. He was huge. At one point, yeah. Are we playing another game? A little fuck, marry, kill action? R.I.P. Sure.

Let's run the fuck, marry, kill. Let's do it. Fuck, marry, kill. You obviously know how to play this game. It's pretty generic. Oh, goodness. Everyone knows this. All R.I.P. Sure. Let's run Fuck, Mary Kill. Let's do it. Fuck, Mary Kill. You obviously know how to play this game. It's pretty generic. Oh, goodness. Everyone knows this. All right.

Okay. This is a little Sway Boy action. Like Gray, Noah, Back, and Griffin Johnson. Okay. What are you? I want to know yours. You want to know mine? Okay, wait.

I need to know from Sway to Sway. It is easy. This is weird because I don't know who I'm going to kill. This is weird because I don't know who I'm going to kill. I guess I'll kill Noah, maybe. He's so nice. Yeah, but it's like... Noah, you marry. Come on.

That's a solid marriage. What? That's a solid marriage. I'm going to marry my boy, Griffin Johnson. Because we already live together, so I already know I could live with Griff. I could live with Griff. I love Griff. And then, dude,ake's like blake's like that's a sex but yeah so i'll fuck blake i guess this and then come on photo and then yeah so i'm gonna kill i'm gonna have to

kill no i'm sorry no i'm sorry dude that's a husband what are you doing kill no i'm gonna kill griff nah what about this? Where did the dragon come from? Dragon? My, like, Chinese zodiac. Well, actually, the real story is people used to, like, tease me, like, in high school or in, like, elementary school. They'd be like, oh, you look like a dragon. You look like a dragon. Because you know how people are like, oh, you look like an elephant.

You look like a mouse. You look like an Asian mixed kid in, like, a small white town. Got it. So I'm like, oh, dragon, dragon, you know. Got it, got it. So I kind of used it as, like, my thing. That's kind of hard, actually. So where are you going? in, Jack in, you know. Got it, got it. So I kind of used it as like my thing. That's kind of hard actually.

So where are you going? So yeah, where are you going? Well, we know who you're marrying. We're marrying Noah Beck, absolutely. We live for a king.

damn, do I fuck Blake or do I fuck Griffin? It depends on a day. What kind of day, what day is it? Tuesday. Is it Tuesday?

Yep. That's, that might be a Blake Gray. I think we kill Griffin. This is tough for Griffin because the photo he doesn't have his shirt off and still people killing him.

I'll marry Noah and effing Griffin. I'm saying it's Nikita. I gotta kill Griffin. I don't know. It would depend on the day. You gotta be safe. You gotta be safe here, Brianna.

You can't be saying nothing wrong. Yeah. Griffin's out. Oh, okay. Wait, why do they all say Tana Mongeau? Why does that say Tana on both of them? But one of that's definitely Demi Lovato. That's Demi.

Oh my God, last time. Oh my God, that's funny. When I was in Miami, I was at a strip club, or 11. I was at 11. It was like me, Demi, and Tana. We were like, we're all together? I just met Demi at Tana's house like a week ago, two weeks ago. Isn't she cool?

Yeah, she's super dope. But I don't, who am I going to, I'm going to, what's that girl's name? Koi LeRae or whatever it is. Yeah, she's so amazing. Koi LeRae. I'm probably going to fuck Koi LeRae. She's bad. And then I like.

I'm just going to have to. I'm going to marry Tana. What? Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. That'd be fun though, confidentially. Ooh, that's a crazy one. Some numbers though. I think I would have to take... I'm gonna marry Tana. What? Good luck. Yeah. That'd be fun though, confidentially.

That would drive you insane. That's a crazy one. Some numbers though. I think I would have to kill Tana. I just don't want Demi. I don't want to say I'm gonna kill her, but... Nikita's killing off Tana.

Tana, you have the least amount of clout here, so I'm gonna kill Tana. And also, I'd be mad, because she's blonde, and I like being blonde sometimes. And,

you know, Demi and Koi have really, like, big dick energy, so I feel like I'd be like... Yeah, Koi has big dick energy. I feel like a little girl, so I'd be like, yay! Oh. Okay. Who the fuck is Chase Strobe?

Okay. Chase Strobe, Michael Yerger. Do you know who Chase Strobe is? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just a friend. One of those. You know. One of those friends. Michael Yerger. Oh, that's your... I was He's just a friend. One of those. You know. One of those friends.

Oh, that's your... I was like, I knew I heard that name. That's your ex, correct? Oh, Taylor. I live... We're together. Let's not get technical. Oh, God.

Gross. Okay, we're definitely killing him. Michael? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, obviously. He's dead. Dead. Married Taylor because he better win at the fight.

Right, right. Yeah, he better win. Hell yeah. And then fucking Chase. Yeah, but Chase, absolutely. That was easy. Yeah. Do you have something to say?

I mean, I guess. I love that shirt that Taylor wore. Yeah, Taylor's shirt. Yeah, that looks so hard. All the little TikToks they had from him that next day was like, okay, I know everyone's talking about Bryce being pushed, but look at Taylor. Yeah, yeah. I was like, wow.

Is that all that? Hard outfits. All right. There's the episode, right? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's the episode with Nikita. Interesting one. Learn a lot, too, I feel like.

Yeah.