BIGFOOT MAKES EYE CONTACT with Witness on Sauvie Island, Oregon
00:00You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever.So stay with us.Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer.For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the Caring Bridge link in the show notes.Thank you.
00:43All right, Bigfoot Society, I've got the privilege of talking to Colleen from Oregon.Colleen's an individual that I've been talking to off and on to try to get on the show.And Colleen's had some very interesting things happen that she's going to share with us today.but thank you so much for coming on the show and welcome Colleen.Thank you, Jeremiah.Basically, I grew up out here.I was born in Oregon City.Grew up hunting, fishing, camping, and hiking with my dad and my family and feel really comfortable out in the woods.
01:24And never really thought about it too much.Bigfoot was just kind of like an emblem.like a character like Smokey the Bear or something like that.So I never really thought twice about it.On 2020, I was living on Savi Island.It's like a big river island that's really close to Portland, Oregon.It's on the Columbia River, and it's like 35 square miles.It's like, it's a really big island.
01:56I didn't know how big it was when I started living on there,and it was really special to be living out there because it's like a big agricultural community.And it's known for having beaches that people like to go to,and the locals kind of suffer a little bit because it's a bit overused, underfunded,and they kind of suffer a little bit for having people come out there.and just tear it all up, basically.But during the shutdown, I kind of felt lucky to be out there.It was just me and my partner and our dog,
02:40and we had like this double-wide right on the riverin this little trailer court, really.And so we, there's a lot of areas all over.over the island that are privately owned.They're in a trust with the state and the Oregon Department Official Wildlife.So they do open up these interior areas for just a part of the year.Less than half of the year, it's open for people to go out and spend some time,you know, respectfully.
03:22And so we'd go out for walks all the time, takeKansas the dog and one of these spots I called the savannah because it was just like big opengrassland and some folks have their cattle out there and there's some lakes and you know really nicestands of trees and it's just really pretty so it's only two miles down the road from wherewe were living. So we hop in the car and we're going to go out there and it's like September,it's right before they're going to shut down the island basically for this hunting season.And so we're just trying to get out there a little bit before, you know, we're not allowed to beout there. And we turn off the main road onto a dirt road. And it's kind of a longer drive
04:21to the cattle guard that we got to go over,which is on the dike for the Columbia River.It's like a straightaway,and we're cruising down at about like 20 miles an hourbecause we kick up a lot of dust.And I'd say that the stretch is about half mile to three quarter milebefore you get to the end where you enter the pasture land.And getting towards the end, me and my partner were just kind of rambling along.
05:04And about 60 feet, maybe yards.I'm not really the best with this, but there was a black.individual that came out from what I thought was a trail at the time, and he was crossingkind of diagonally to a access road for fields. They have like all these cornfields becausethey're trying to bring in migratory birds and beer and whatever else. So there's all theseaccess roads to these adjacent fields. So he was crossing, you. He was crossing, you.you know, diagonally kind of towards us and continuing on this access road.And so when he enters our vision from behind, you know, kind of some tall trees and
06:01blackberry bushes growing into the trees, you know, we didn't say a word to each other.We were just looking at this and trying to understand what we were looking at.And when he steps out into the gravel road, he looks at us.And it almost seems like he's not expecting us to be there.But he doesn't change his posture.He doesn't speed up.He doesn't, you know, he looked right at me and continue.continued crossing the road.
06:49And my partner at the time, he's like, slowing down, obviously, because someone's crossing.And I don't remember what I said if I said anything.But we slowed down and we're just kind of in shock, I think.And so as we continue to roll up to the access road, you know, we stop.to see if we can see him walking down further.And that's where we saw him about 50, again, possibly 60 feet down.And there's the Blackberry Brambles.It's a hedge that's kind of a barrier for, I believe, cornfield that's beyond it.
07:40And he's standing there waiting for us almost.And so we look at each other again and we just sit there for a few seconds and then he dips into the hedge and he's out of view.And we never talked about it.I think that our relationship was getting 20-20 pretty hard.We ended up, you know, splitting up the following February.So I wonder if that was a part of it.our communication was just kind of shot, shot the pieces already.And so we weren't, or how I feel about it is like it took me years to digest just that small window of time that that experience was until I was just kind of like, yeah, that's, that happened.
08:40I saw him with someone.And so it wasn't until the end of last year that I kind of just started thinking about it again.So, you know, three, almost four years later, I'm just kind of like, yeah, okay.So it's all Bigfoot.And I hadn't talked to anyone about it, not a soul.And I was sitting at like a local bar and I kind of threw it out there.And yeah, people were like, okay, okay, Colleen, sure.And but after that was when I was still having drinks and I,
09:35after the bar closed one night, I invited a couple of my friends up.I just got a cat and I was trying to socialize them.He was really cute little kitten and they came up and we sipped some wine.And I was like, okay, these are my friends.And I'm just going to share it with them.And I told him the story.And one friend, he didn't say anything really.He wasn't critical and he didn't have.
10:05any experience himself.He just kind of listened.And then my other friend made me like repeat it like three times.And each time that I kind of ran over it again, I could tell that he was very skeptical of it.And I was like, sure, you know, this is, I should, I totally should expect this, you know.And then on the third run through the story, he's like, what do you mean?He was waiting for you.And I was kind of like, yeah, like, what do I mean?
10:42You know, I don't really know what I mean by that.Like, why was he still standing there waiting, looking at us?And at any rate, he never was very satisfied with anything that I had to say.to like clarify my experience or anything like that.But a few months later, he was van living.And sometimes he'd stay on a friend's property on the island,which wasn't far from where we were at.And I was working nights.
11:23So I was up usually.And he calls me in the middle of the night.and he sounds really shook and he's just saying,I am so sorry that I made you explain yourself.I'm sorry.I made you feel like you were lying.But there's that it's walking around my van.And I am so freaked out right now.
11:55And I just, you know, I just was like,oh, you know, some people, they go real deep and, you know, and, you know, there's some,some folks just roaming a little bit to check their property lines. They could be curious about youbeing on your friend's property. You know, I just tried to, I wanted to calm them down a little bitbecause I didn't want them to be scared like that, you know, even though I did feelthis kind of like somebody believes me you know I don't sound so crazy now to to this person and thatI found a little bit of comfort in but that around that time since I was kind of trying towrap my head around that experience from 2020 I got on the internet and I really didn't go very
12:51deep. I just found some Reddit threads and I, you know, didn't see any other sightings in that area.And but I heard about like tree knocking and the structures and stuff. And I was like,yeah, that's, you know, that doesn't really, that doesn't really apply to, to my experience.and I didn't really get the tree knocking.But we fast forward to about a month ago,maybe six weeks ago.Going on six weeks ago,I had been really struggling with making ends meet,
13:43and I had been,had a living situation completely fall to pieces and I was just, I kind of had it. And I was going to go for a walk and clean my head out on some trails out outside of scampoose. And I go out on these trails. It's really nice, but it's hot lately. So I could hear some water.below. And I was like, man, why don't these trails just go down to this little creek that's lame?You know, I think I can make it down to this little creek, you know? So I go off trail and I get down to thiscute little creek and that's this little open area. And I spend some time down there.And I'm like, okay, so I should probably get back out before it starts.getting dim out here. And I looked the way I came and I was like, man, that was kind of a littlehairier than it looked. Maybe if I just fall along this creek a little bit, there'll be another way up
15:02that won't be as rough, you know? So I'm kind of following a little deer trail along thiscreek and it starts kind of getting, you know, full of...I'm skiing nettles and I'm like, okay, this is, this is kind of ridiculous, but, you know, it would be even more ridiculous to turn around, you know, like I just, I felt like I knew, like, how I'd get back to the road that my car was parked on. I never, I never felt lost. I never admitted to myself that I was at any rate. And so I'm getting out there and I'm seeing tracks for animals in the mud and that's mostlyand raccoon.And I know that there's homesteads out there.I'm half expecting to just like bust through somebody's, you know,rhododendrons into their backyard, which would have been embarrassing.But I was, you know, I was open to that at this moment.
16:05And I kind of come to this point where the creek really becomes thick brush.And there's some big downtrees.and I just kind of take a minute and I don't really think about what am I going to do next, you know, which way do I think is best to go?And I decided that I needed to go up this ridge. I was like, I know there's a road up there. I think it's, I think it's like 40 feet up. I can see it kind of flattens out and I bet you that's a road. And so I'm going up.and I'm feeling absolutely ridiculous.Like you just hear stories of hikers getting lost and getting chapered out.And I'm just always like thinking that these folks are idiots.And here I am kind of getting into some really fixed stuff, but still, not admitting that I'm completely lost.
17:10I know that I know that there's a way out and that there's property.there's something I'm going to come across, you know.So I get up to where my vision, my visual perception stopped.And it did level out, but it continued up again.And so I'm just, I'm so exhausted by this point.But I got to do it.I got to go up and I, you know, get up this ridge and just got some trees.and just got some trees so I can kind of take some breathers here and there and I'm like, oh, I can see it.
17:52I can see the road.Okay.And I'm getting this anxious push to get to it and I step through a pile of a wood and I'm all, what's that?And it's hornets.I stepped into a nest of ground hornets underneath this wood pile, and they were all over me.And I'm allergic to bees.I never carry a shop kit, but I should because, I mean, they told me that if I was to get into anaphylactic shock again, it would happen faster.I probably have about 15 minutes if I was to get stung again.
18:44That happened a long time ago when I was a child,but when this is happening to me,I just try to run and I'm not very good at running at this point.I'm exhausted and I'm screaming, just screaming.I can't even hear myself.but I know I'm screaming and they're just staying on me.They're in my hair.They're in my clothes.
19:14They're like in all the tender underarm areas.They're just what a mess.And I probably had gone about 100 feet like along the ridge.and finally I just laid down and most of them had left me alone.There was a couple diehards, but I had just, I just was like, okay, okay, okay.So I'm just got to sit here and I got to figure out if I'm going to go intounfulctive shock here.You know, I'm kind of waiting to see if I have any breathing issues and just kind of
20:00give myself a minute and I want to slow my heart rate down if I can. And I managed to do thata little bit and I come to the conclusion that, you know, I'm not going into anaphylactic shock andhow lucky I am to be able to get up and step onto this logging road that was three feet from me.Like I just step out onto this road and I'm just, I can't believe that I just climbed up that thing.I look down and I can't even see the creek anymore.I can't even hear the creek anymore.And I'm looking at this road and I decide, okay, like, let's go to the left.I think that this is the way that I need to go.
20:57I start walking and it wasn't long before I came to where they had bulldozed a berm and I think it was going to go back down into this ridge line.So I just kind of was like, oh, right, I don't think I should go this way.This isn't this isn't the answer.So I turn around and I start be tracing my steps and I come to where I can.came out and continued.And there was a split.And I had been observing a lot of scat on the logging road,which was pretty overgrown in some areas with Blackberry brambles and other small brush.
21:51And I was seeing, that looks like Black Bear Scat there.that's a mountain lion okay and there's a lot of it and then there was a lot of it and then there was a huge likemore than a foot across pile and I was like what they're all full of blackberry seeds you knowand and I just kind of thought to myself these guys are probablypretty tired to eat blackberries right about now.Just.And so I decided to, I made my decision on what road I was going to take at the split.And about 20 feet into that part of the road,
22:52I hear behind me a click, click, click, clack.And it's like I felt like I was a long, it was like a long-haired cat that was all poofed out.Like I felt like, like, I just felt like I, spiky.Like, I don't know how to describe how all these hairs that I don't have for standing up all around me.and I look over my shoulder, but I didn't stop, and there was nothing.But I could tell from where the sound came from, it was just next to the road,where I had passed twice, and the logging road,made this nice little flat space, but the ridge continued, you know.
23:59So the sound was above my head.And I just kind of was like, oh, because the ridge continues at a really steep incline.But that was not a woodpecker.and I just was at the, I think that I was in a, already in a moderate, on its way to severe state of shock from the Hornets Nest.And this happened.And I was just kind of like, I don't know what this being is expecting for a response from me right now.but I'm just kind of sure, you know, of course, this is going to happen now.This is when it's going to happen is when everything's just completely out of control.
24:57And I was really lucky because the sun was beginning to go down.And I had gone in to this hike around like 10 in the morning, you know,And I'm looking at the sun, figuring what time it was, trying to figure out my position, and how much time do I have before this place gets really dark.And just more scary because of that than it's ever been before for me in my life.and I came across some trees that were downed on this logging road that I guess hasn't been surveyed in quite some time.But it was, you know, trees up by their roots, you know, stacked over each other blocking the road, which I was coming down.That kind of seems recent.These trees seem like they're still alive even, you know, like.
26:03And I don't really remember us having, you know, really strong weather in any sense in this area.So that's kind of interesting.It took a while for me to like start feeling like I wasn't being observed because that's how I felt.And that instance, it took probably like a half a mile before I was like, I can kind of just breathe a little.easier. But I just was keeping my pace and I didn't make any wrong turns because there wasa number of splits that I came across and I came out of these logging roads. I mean,they're supposed to be closed. I'm not supposed to be in there. I'm trespassing. I think thatIt might have been like warehouser land outside.
27:07And I made it out to Dutch Canyon Road and walked out.And that's kind of the end of where that experience is.The thing about the click, click, clack, you know,was that the three knocks were a very precise beat.They didn't, they were, it was a very tight beat.But the third was a completely different pitch,which confused, it just confuses me still because I'm just like,Okay, so, you know, like if you take a two by four, like maybe one, maybe the wide side makes a different sound than the short side, you know, because he can't just, this guy didn't set something down and pick up another one, you know, to make a different pitch and sound than the other two.
28:27you know, that's the part where it just really got my attention that something intelligent was trying to convey a point to me.And I was pretty, I don't know, I don't want to say it just stressed me necessarily.but it did. I kind of became hyper fixated on trying to understand this more.And I don't really have a lot of close friends at this point in my life.But I'm spending time with my mom trying to build things up from the ground up here and talking to her about it.And she's like, you know, he could have been trying to let you know that that was that was the right way to go to encourage you to get out the right way, you know?And I just kind of was like, yeah, that totally could make sense.I just can't
29:46know in that respectand sosince thatlast six weeks or soI've kind of really immersed myselfand people's storiesandI've
30:07you knowkind of have a different perspectiveon a couple of thingsabout living on Saudi island.Like Ithought that I wastotally hoo-hooingwith an owl out there
30:26out past the tree lineacross from our porch.And I just felt like,you know,like a nature woman.Like I thought of, you know,I had an owl friend, like how cool is that?And I mean, I saw that
30:43owl. It came and checked me out on the beach one night. So I was sold, but every time. And I was kind of like,well, where is this guy? I'm trying to, where in the trees is this guy that's out here that'salways responding to me when I'm making my crappy owl call? And I kind of look at that verydifferently now. And then there was also a night where we had the thickest fog I've ever seenon the island being on the river like that. And all the leaves had fallen. This might have been after,I think it was possibly after our seeing him crossing. And I was out sitting on the porch havingSiders and I can hear somebody walking in the leaves out in front of where we park our cars.And I was like, who is this person walking in the trees over here?
31:52And I was thinking that it was somebody that was trying to have an encampment nearby andthought that there being a really thick fog would be a good time to go poke around.And I didn't like that.So I start kind of like talking.I was like, you know, you really,it's really not a good idea for you to be poking around here.And I called my partner out and I'm just like,there's somebody walking out over here.
32:22And he's just, you know, like I said,our relationship was kind of shot to pieces at that point.And there was a can of cider in my hand.And he's just kind of like, okay, all right, calling, whatever.And he goes inside.He never hears anything because he doesn't even, he doesn't believe me.He doesn't spend any time on the porch with me.And so it's just me and this person that, I mean, 30 feet from me, you know?
32:53And when I talked to it, it stopped.It was listening to me.And I was like, hey, I just, I mean, you know, folks over here, they just, or on the island itself,they do not take kindly to folks wandering around on properties.You're going to get hurt.You're going to get shot.You know, like you need to think about that and be very, very careful.You know, I wasn't, like, threatening it to shoot it or anything, but I just, it needs to know that it's very dangerous to be going around people's homes like that.
33:28It's just very dangerous.And it did.It just kind of started backing up.up and I think it went towards this tree line that I would hoo-hoo at from my porch.And I just never put all that together ever before that.So, yeah.And then there was even when we'd go camping, we'd always camp out on Mount Hood.and we go out 224 to 46 out past ripplebrook ranger station and we had this spot called big fan
34:16and this is way back in the day when there wasn't a lot of people out there ever and the ranger would comeand try to see firewood and warning to not have your fire too big and some of the big trees out thereand it's right on the collawash where it splits off into the Clackamas River.It's a really beautiful site, and it's big enough to hold a couple families.So one year we went with another family.And that night, my friend's dad, he's like,so you know about the mountain men, right?And I'm like, oh, okay, you know, this is some campfire stuff.
35:02sure. I think it was 12 at the time. And he's like, yeah, there's mountain men out here. And then my dad'sstanding there. And I think he's trying to mitigate where he thinks this is going because we nevertalked about Bigfoot, you know, more than Harry and the Henderson's. You know, it was. And my dad'slike, there are some men that come back from Vietnam that did not adjust to society. And theyprefer to stay out in the woods.And my friend's dad, I think, takes his cue and kind of lets up a little bit.And he's like, they come into your camp at night when everyone's asleep and they justtake some beer and some hot dogs, just enough for a snack, you know.
35:54And I was like, oh, okay, sure.So I stayed up.I stayed up and I waited and I made sure everybody was asleep before I let myself fall asleep.And I got up first as well.And I went and I looked in that cooler.Sure enough, there was less stuff in there.And I was like, man, I didn't hear anything coming to camp.So it just really fascinated me that there's people, people lean around me.
36:28and I can't hear, see, or be aware of them at all.It just totally blew my mind.What I didn't know was that was probably one of the last times that our family went campingout there together.My dad's mental health kind of started to deteriorate and, you know, having teenagers justwas taking us wearing our parents out and we just never did it again.But I remember we had gone back to that spot yearly.And after I sent up my tent that I shared with my sister and brother, I was kind of like,
37:03oh, I'm just kind of lay here for a minute.And I, like, laid there and I could just hear the trees.And I was like, man, it just like, it just feels like they remember me.Like, like, like, we're familiar to the trees, you know.And I have like these, these thoughts about like, you know,when people pass away, you know, they kind of, after a certain point, they kind of become moreelemental and they come into the forest and some of it's dark and some of it's not, you know,but it's just, it's just so beautiful, big and sacred, you know, and, and I just always thought
37:52that I'm a really weird kid.to you know like I didn't wouldn't even share those thoughts with anyone you know because I was that weird kid and I wasn't trying to perpetuate it more than it already was that way you know I wanted to be normal so bad and and yeah like that was that was that's basically all the the past and nowwe're living in this remote areaan unincorporated landat a but BLM land with transmission lineswooden transmission linesthere's areservoir nearby
38:38with a preserveforest around itand behind our propertythe forest goes all the way to the coastfor 40 milesand I don't want to gofor walks by mymyself, me and my mom will walk when she's up for it and we'll just take a little walk down
39:00logging roads on our neighbor's property. And so, you know, last week we take the dog and even my catwent with me that time, Billy, he's a year and a half and he wanted to follow us. And, you know,I totally am into that. But he was freaked out about.the forest. You know, it's pretty overwhelming for a little guy. And we're only like 150 feetfrom the house. And, um, um, uh, me, my mom and got the dog and she's a little further up.And I'm trying to coax Billy because he's timid. When I looked back at Billy, he was frozen.He was locking eyes with something. And my mom's continuing to walk.walk and so I'm like, oh, I better go pick him up.
39:58I'm going to go get him.And I walk up. And as soon as I come close enough to him, he's like, yep, let's get out of here.He starts walking back.And I go to pick him up and I can hear movement on either side of this logging road.And I finish picking up Billy and he is all about being held at this moment.and I can hear the tree knocks.And I caught three, but I went, hey, mom, and she stopped and waited for me to catch up with her with Billy in my arms.You know, let me carry him a whole 50 feet.
40:40And I was like, ah, I thought I heard some trinox there, you know.I thought I heard three, you know, what did you hear?She was like, I heard four or five.And they were gentle.They weren't Louisville slugger.Trenox and whatever.We continue.And I wanted to check out this kind of overgrown road.
41:02It was pretty near where our stopping point was last time.And I was thinking about leaving a special rock or something.But I didn't bring one with me.So we go down this little road.And I thought I saw visual movement.But whatever.possibly a deer.We stand there a little bit, and then there's, you know, a rapid, like, five knock.
41:28And we're just like, okay, you know, let's go ahead and hit back.And then there was a ground squirrel that started, like, calling super agro, like, yoked out squirrel out there just calling when we started heading out.now is this kind of like, that's pretty interesting.So, yeah, growing up out here and living out here is really great.But all of a sudden, very recently, there's just like this whole new kind of shift in my perception for it.And it's been pretty challenging to adjust to it because I need to just go to work, you know?And it's kind of, you know, you have like this mind-blowing experience,and then you just got to go do some really mundane stuff.
42:30How could you do anything else when this is, you know, has like so much meaning behind it?That means so much other stuff is real and true.And it's just kind of shatters your, you know, agreed upon understanding of your reality.And I just, you know, there's a part of me that was just like, man, that's in a way, it can be really scary.And this is the kind of stuff in the 20th century that, you know, people would try to put these folks into a cage so you can observe them and feel safe.and, you know, they need to be protected.You know, they don't, they're in a lot of danger, all these fires.And people literally trying to make history and some gruesome way.
43:23It's pretty scary.So I just kind of worry about them now.So.Collin, you definitely have been through a lot.Thank you for sharing that entire account.Um, do you mind if I ask you a few questions about different things?Sure.Yeah.
43:45Okay.Uh, first off, I want to say, I'm glad you're okay.In general, you, I'm, I'm very glad you're okay.Uh, keep, keep being okay, all right.Um, yeah.So it feels like there was a point where he'd said that you may have had a visual of something,but the way you were talking about it feels like you may have talked yourself out of it.Maybe like when our logical,
44:17I say like when our logical side of our brain kind of talks too loudand it overtalks our big foot side.Do you remember anything about what you think you may have seenor any details about that time?So you're talking about walking along with my mom?Yeah.a week ago.So, yeah.
44:43So I had looked down this little road and it's completely covered in green, you know, but it'sreally wide.And I figure there might have been a road to an old homestead.It's very level.And it looks like the creek.It even has like a culvert so that the road continues over the creek.And I just kind of was curious if the road turned a little bit.So I had stepped into the road so that all of that vision was open to me.
45:35And as I looked down, it was like a,a blur of and it was like maybe a little black maybe a little tan and it was justto the right which there was no rushing through the brush the I mean the the the uh the forest floor over hereisn't the thickest brush in all places um sometimes you cansee pretty far as far as like, you know, forest floors are concerned.But in this area, there was, it was pretty thick, you know, and there's the creek right there.So you really just couldn't vanish without making a sound.And even like when you alerted here, because we come across here quite often.
46:38And they freeze and they're perfectly fine walking eyes with you, but they'd rather just kind of stay still as long as you don't move towards them.And they'll do that until you move out of their visual spectrum, not that they'll move off.Or you'll get them spooked and then they'll make noise.They'll do their little prance hop away.And that is a very particular sound.And there was none of that.Absolutely none of that.But the sounds that we heard the five trenox, which were softer.
47:23So they weren't alerting everyone within a mile and a half.They were alerting us or someone closer to them, perhaps.And it wasn't necessarily threatening, but it was definitely a very thorough acknowledgement.And it would have been in the general direction that this movement that I saw was going in.You know, when we came back down the road on the way home, I was like, you know, so I know I heard moving on both sides.But I don't know what Billy was looking at.and the five tree knocks came from that side of the road.And I was like, I want to make extra, pay extra attention because they had, they've done some logging nearby.
48:18And they got bulldozers busting up the ground on the road.So it's much easier to leave an imprint.So I was trying to pay a little extra attention.We didn't see anything, but certainly our Calhoun, Ricky, was certainly very interested in some areas, was alerting in other areas.And later that night, you know, my mom's husband went to bed and.And so I was like, you know, so about that, what do you think it was?And she's like, I don't know what that was.All right.
49:11Well, was it a woodpecker?She goes, no, no, that was not a bird.And I was like, okay.You know, that's as far as it went.But I definitely feel like this would be ideal area for an animal to.to live, except that we're closer and closer to more developed areas.But like I said, from here west, it's just all forest.That's wild.
49:48And that was just a week ago.And yeah, that's, that's, that's very interesting.Definitely keep me in the loop about that because, I mean, that could easily.there could be other stuff that happen out there easily.Yeah, I feel like I asked my mom about our property that we're on.And I was like, how long has this been a home, you know?And the property goes back in record to like 1905.So this wasn't recently settled, you know, which.
50:31I would think, you know, I would expect more disruption if that were the case.If, you know, if you had recently encroached on areas that may have been considered somebody else's,that they would be more apt to being a little bit more upset about being disturbed.but from what I understand, you know, like these, these folks out here, you know, I think that they're, when they showed up, so these, these homes were here.So that's kind of like this understanding that they both exist.And I'm just, yeah, I'm terribly interested to, you know, continue to.you know, continue to go for walks and, but I don't want to do it alone. And, and I just, I do. I just want to bereally thoughtful because, like I said before, I just, you know, I want them to stay mysterious
51:45in a way. I don't think that it's necessary for, you know, for them to be completely understood inside and out.and every little feature of themneeds to be documentedand, you know, I don't think that that's necessaryat all.And I, and I, and I, and I just,I'm just so worried about them in that way.Yeah, that, that's, that's very interesting viewpoint.
52:16And I can, I can definitely see what,what you're saying for sure.Um, do you have any, uh, close neighbors to,to, to that,property? Right. Yeah, we do. There's, we're at the end of a dirt road that's off of another dirt road,off another dirt road. And there's folks right across from the end of our road from us. And thenthere's another stead on our road that I would say is like 200 feet or so from us, like maybe an acre away.and they're the ones that have just recently cleared some of this area near where we live.
53:00And I think there's even another further neighbor and their family has large areas of land divided between their family members.And they log from time to time too.But I haven't really gotten to know any of them.What's interesting is that like when we've been.get down to the main turnoff to get onto the main paved road.On that corner is a homestead.And they have a wood carving of, they put right there, you know.So it's pretty curious.
53:48I wouldn't know how to, from what I understand, you know,we look likePortlanders basicallyso even though her husbandgrew up around this areayou know me showing up and my momyou know we're you know these invadersfrom an urban area
54:12that isn't really well looked uponby a large amountof people over a wide areaand soI wouldn't even know how I would begin to broach even a small talk conversation.I think that it would take a lot to gain anyone's confidence at all in this area, too.That's for just kind of outsiders.But I would love to, though.
54:47Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where it's easier said than done, right?because it'sit feels likeif I was in that situationI would definitely wantto first know my neighborsand especially if I was lookingin a big foot in that situation
55:02and one of them has a bigcarved big footI mean it's likecome onyou got to rightbut again it's easier said than doneso I don't know ifI don't know what I would do in the situation
55:15I think thatfrom time to timethere's like some sort of a potluck maybe this because there's some ranch land and you know um some of thesefamilies go back you know i think you know to uh after the indian wars a lot of the folks settled out hereuh the soldiers they got some nice picks of land out here before it became settled and soa lot of these families have been here ever since.And so I think that it would be really cool if I would definitely go and try to socializeand see if I could mention or admire the big pulp sculpture and see where it led.
56:13I got the idea.Okay, here's what you're going to do.So you, the next time they have the like potluck or whatever, you make cookies that are in the shape of a Bigfoot.I can do it.It's like a conversational piece type deal.I don't know.I can do that.There he is.
56:37I hear him.Yeah, he's going wild.Yeah.He's a knucklehead.what i was going to ask is going back to when you lived on the island and you had the sightingwas it close enough that you could or do you remember any details about the face or justdetails about it in general that you know made you kind of think like oh that that's weird orthat is like how they always say it is or it's not it's different
57:16different?No clothes, obviously.I made eye contact with it.So, but it was all black.And I would say it was six and a half or seven feet.I didn't get a really good look at the hands or I didn't even look at its feet.its feet and even though I was looking right at its face and I mean I'm coming towards it even thoughwe slowed down quite a bit it was the only thing I was seeing and I still didn't get like any more
57:59definition it was just kind of all in this mess of black and I would I felt like the shape ofits head wasn't too cone like I felt like it was more rounded but perhaps wasa bit higher, you know, I think that it almost looked normal because some people wear their hairhigher up on their head like that, you know, so it didn't even, that didn't even visually seemlike too wildly unhuman, I mean, unhuman to me at all. And I just kind of gone back over itover it and I think it had to have heard us coming down this gravel road. Why would it do that?You know, and again, you're talking to my mom and she's like, you know, it could have been a young adult.And it had been, you know, corralled by its parents telling it, no, you can't do that. No, you can't do that. And it's like, finding
59:10its own range out there, you know, trying to do its own thing. Not sure why, you know, the previousgenerations were so paranoid about people, you know. And because it didn't seem afraid.It's almost like it wanted to be seen, which I just boggles my mind. I don't get it.at all.And so, I mean, I don't really speak with my partner of that time very much.He started a new relationship, and I hope he has success.And so I just try to leave him alone.But I was like, if I'm going to go as far as to talk to you, Jeremiah, you know, I'll go ahead and reach out.
01:00:04So I did.And we were texting.And I was like, hey, I was going to ask you a question.And he's like, go ahead.And I'm like, do you remember seeing Bigfoot?And he's like, no.I mean, was it up north?Was it south?
01:00:22Because we were outdoors a lot.And he's from the Olympic Peninsula.And I just gave him the details of it, the synapse.And he goes, I do remember that.And I was just like, okay.You know, it doesn't really do anything.It really doesn't change anything.But it, again, just kind of like when my friend, you know,
01:00:55apologized for being so intense about my story.And then, you know, kind of being like, I apologize about that.It just kind of gave me this, like, comfort in being believed.it.Yeah, absolutely.I mean, it's always good to have someone else on your side when you've experienced something that's out of the ordinary like that.I can definitely get that.Who broke eye contact first when you had eye contact with it?
01:01:29I do believe that it did.Or it might have just gone.out of view.But when we pulled up and came to a stop,when we could see him again in this, like, hedgerow,he had stopped and was waiting and looked and at me.But I mean, my partner was right in line with me.So I would imagine that he made
01:02:07it felt similar that he also was locking eyes with this, you know, person, basically is how it feels, you know?And, and there was like this just moment that lasted probably four seconds or so, but felt like an extended amount of time before it ducked into the hedges.And then, you know, after my friend was being critical and saying, well, what do you mean by it was waiting for you?He kept asking that over and I was like, I kind of felt silly like it was waiting for me.Like, what do I mean?Well, what I think was actually happiness, it was trying to make sure we weren't going to turn down that access road, that we weren't going to come and try to get a better look at it.That's what I think makes sense, you know, and after it realized that we weren't turning down that road.I mean, there's no, there's no barrier from us to do it, but I would have felt like it was disrespectful.
01:03:08That's an access road for someone's field.You know, I'm not trying to go after onto somebody's property to that extent, but I know some people would.So it was, you know, worried about it a little bit.What was the main thing that you noticed that made you give it a kind of a classification of something that was human?When I looked at this, I never thought about an ape.I never thought about a monkey.I never thought of any sort of primate that I've known of.It didn't enter my mind in any way.
01:03:56like it looked like a hairy person.And I tried really hard to like crank it.And it took me years of digesting it myself quietly before I could just say it out loud that that was a hairy person.That was that was that was a big foot.That was maybe not as large as other big foot.But I mean, I actually recently, they got.you pick farms out there.And me and my sister took her son out and went berry picking.
01:04:33And I was like, hey, what do you think about throwing the kid out in the water?She had no idea that there were beaches out there.So we did.We went and took the kid out to the beach, threw him in the water.And before we left, I took her down that very road.I wanted to show her the Savannah.And as we were coming down, I'm trying to figure out where exactly it was.And it didn't come out of a foot trail.
01:04:59It was an access road also that it had come out of.So it was walking down these access roads.And there's wetlands in between these areas, too.There's fields, wetlands, and they all have like little access foot paths.Or you can access some of the smaller for, you know, four by fours.And then you have like straight up, you know, stuff for trucks.So these are straight up access roads and they don't line up completely.And so it's the last set of access roads before you really get to the end before the cattle guard.
01:05:44And I finally, riding with my sister, I'm explaining to her, I'm letting her know I had this experience as we're rolling down this road.and I'm looking at these Blackberry brambles, which without trees to climb, grow into Blackberry brambles,you know, they'll get like six or seven feet tall or so.But these were growing into trees planted as a barrier for their fields.So the tops of these Blackberry brambles were somewhere around 12 feet or more.So I just wonder about like how when you see something, your brain really just tries to cram it into the parameters that it's used to.So maybe it was considerably taller than six and a half, seven feet.Like I originally thought when I had the experience.
01:06:50experience and it could have been much taller because, you know, there's no, like,street sign pole at the corner there or mailbox.It's all just, you know, wildland tall trees and monster blackberry bushes.So there's a question about that in my mind.Yeah.Would you ever want to see one again?I don't know.It's kind of interesting because, you know, I loved Jane Goodall.
01:07:35And everybody, you know, wants to feel special, right?I don't necessarily feel special, okay?I feel like people, this isn't as a unique experience as we're sold, it is.Okay.But, you know, there's like this fantasy of like, oh, you know, we could be friends and I can help protect them or something, you know.But I think that the more I see them means that the more that they are exposed to other people, which would endanger them.So in a way, no, I don't.You know, in my heart, you know, I have like this huge love for like this region.
01:08:25It's not just the state of Oregon, it's the Pacific Northwest.You know, I love this landscape in such an intimate way that like growing up here, like, you know, 224 got burnt to a crisp, you know.When I drove out that way after they opened the road up, I cannot tell you how much it tore me to pieces.And I couldn't even get to the camp spot to see if those trees that I felt recognized me were there or not.I think they did survive, by the way.But I haven't seen them myself since.But this is like this really deep reverence and this feeling of responsibility and this drive to do what.I can to preserve it. And I think to do that, you got to let these areas be wild and protect them.
01:09:26And so, you know, I think that my love for them overpowers this, you know, part of me to have this validating experience.I'd much rather than be safe.And if I had to not ever see one again to ensure their safety, that's what I want.I think that's a beautiful way to put it.And just let's say thank you again for spending some time this afternoon,sharing what you've experienced over the years, Colleen.It's been a very interesting conversation.And I appreciate you coming on today.
01:10:07Yeah, I appreciate you making time for me too.Thank you so much.Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain,or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence,and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.
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