Bigfoot Society - Breaking Bigfoot with Jesus Payan, Jr.

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Join us as we sit down with Jesus Payan Jr., a Hollywood actor, stuntman, and cryptid UFO researcher. With over 30 years of experience, Jesus shares his incredible journey into the world of Bigfoot and Sasquatch research. From childhood experiences in Loch Ness, Scotland, to working alongside renowned figures in the cryptid community, Jesus provides firsthand accounts of his encounters and research throughout New Mexico, Oklahoma, and beyond. He also delves into intriguing UFO sightings and potential military connections to these mysterious creatures. Whether you're a Bigfoot believer or a skeptic, this episode is packed with fascinating stories and theories that will leave you questioning what might be out there.Resources:Breaking Discoveries Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakingDicoveriesContact Jesus: [e-mail] your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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things regarding your Bigfoot research. But let's start right from the beginning. What was it that first got you into researching Sasquatch or Bigfoot? Well, when I first started out, I was about four years old. And my mom had a book called Archivecichy's. It was Archivecichy Clark's book, Mysterious World. And that was like the first time I saw anything Bigfoot related in there. And I saw the Lockness Monster. I was living in England with my parents.

And we went to Rock Ness in Scotland and hunted Nessie for two weeks on the lock. And yeah, so it started early for me And also it was like I was seeing UFOs already You know by that time It's barely between four and five And when I was seeing my first UFOs That I can remember about a little over

Hour Drive for me Was the Rendell Rendlesham Forest incident I don't have you heard of that It's like England's Roswell Exactly There was a lot going on And then when I came to the state

anytime in elementary, we'd have those scholastic little book sales, anything that was, you know, cryptid related or UFO or everything I always would, you know, try to get. And then I would say it didn't become actual research until after 2000. So after 2000, that's when I first got to experience it physically by being chased, me and my friend were chased by,

what I believe was an adolescent Sasquatch. Well, for us, it looks like a six-foot-tall, you know, full-grown, you know, scary thing, but six-foot-tall Sasquatch is pretty short for, especially a male, you know, in that world. But, yeah, that was my first taste of the unknown, officially as in cryptid wives. So my folks, we moved to Rio deLso, New Mexico.

My mom got a job at the Forest Department. and my sister got a job at the local police department and we moved into a cabin there and on the first couple of days we were there I got to hear a bigfoot scream called Yodel long high pitch almost like if you were going really fast down the road

and you just like at least 90 there was no anything to hit and you just slam on your brakes and just held on to your brakes until you stop it was a real long that's the only way I could describe something's kidding but it was just way too long we're in the mountains and the little straight roads to do that

everything in the forest shut up my mom was right there my dad was right there my son was right there and it just got super duper quiet you know I was like what the head what was I you know and then it did it again and my mom judged so maybe it's Bigfoot and I was or not I think it is I think it is and I ran inside, I jumped on the computer

and looked up Bigfoot audio call recordings of Sasquatch, and I found one that matched exactly what we just heard. And then that was when it got really, I guess, addictive. And my mom, working with the Forest Department, they would get reports from campers and some of their troll guys and Rangers. But they couldn't be an investigation because it's not supposed to exist. But they were allowed to tell me about it. You know, I didn't say who reported it, but they'd tell me the area it was reported.

My sister would also get, you know, the police department would get Bigfoot reports and we're not to go check them out because it's not supposed to exist. So I would end up learning all the different areas that they were at and start, that's when I really started doing my research, I'd say 2003-ish, or what I'd call research versus just thinking it's real cool and trying to beat up on anything that I could find because back then YouTube wasn't what YouTube is today. wasn't better what it is today. And, you know, unless you're

over rich in that time, you know, in 2003. So I'd say that's when I officially started doing actual research into it. That is absolutely fascinating. What was your, your age at that time period in 2003? In 2003, I was 33. Okay, that's cool.

So you're 33. Your mom was getting you the reports from the forestry department. Your sister is giving you the stuff from the police department. Man, that sounds like an absolute dream. And you're living your real-life ex-files out there, but all big folk.

Times three. Oh, my goodness. What was the craziest thing that you saw coming through from your mom or your sister? I would say a rancher called, and he reported that his cattle were freaking out, his dog started freaking out,

so he ran out to the field. and he saw a Sasquatch trying to steal a cow, and it was grabbing it from behind. I'm guessing if you saw it, it looked kind of, it's kind of suspect or sus, the way it was grabbing it, but it was just trying to, I guess, carry it off, but it grabbed it from behind, like,

he was going to do a hymler to the cow, and the cow was struggling, and there was footprints left in the mud where the cow was moving forward while the Sasquatch's heels were digging in. And at the time, you know, I hadn't done any casting. I didn't have any casting stuff either, so I didn't even think about that. I was just like, oh, wow, because I found out where it was.

I went to go talk to the guy and, yeah, there was tracks and everything still. So to me, that one was the weirdest from my mom's, from the Forest Department, unofficially, allegedly. And then from my sisters, the police department in Meadows of Downs, she got a phone call from a taxi woman from the reservation. and the lady was, you know, there was other phone calls tonight and everyone went to because she was standing in the middle of the street and wouldn't move and said she wouldn't leave that spot until police came and picked her up because she was so scared. And what happened was this is in the middle of the daytime, like early afternoon.

She was walking by the Walgreens and was walking there in the street that goes kind of behind it and downward, you know, down to the canyon. And there was two Sasquatch digging through the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Cairns, the big old, you know, those big trash cans with the flippy lids, the stores have. And we had just recently had major fires. So a lot of the Sasquatch and other animals were coming into town foraging, looking for food because everything was burnt. So she got so freaked out.

And when they, when she, you know, she screamed, they looked up and walked right back into, you know, towards the canyon in the forest. And that's when she started freaking out. And people, yeah, she was all the cops. And when my sister got there, she told her the same thing and told her that she's not moving from that spot unless she, my sister gave her a ride anywhere but there. She wasn't trying to go anywhere like specifically. She's just, I don't want to be anywhere near this spot. Please just take me somewhere else, you know?

So I thought that was out of the two, those are the most interesting from from our mom and my sister. now a even more interesting occasion happened on the same area in Mescalero Patry I was on the reservation hanging out with some friends were having a little get-together and this one lady comes up to me and she says hey they say that you're into the whole you know Sass, Bigfoot Sasquatch thing, the Harry Boys

and I was like yeah yeah I kind of am and she was with my neighbor she's a single mom and this is a story she told me Her neighbors, a single mom with two kids. They were in their cabin, and a female Bigfoot and her, they believe, with a male child, which was like five feet tall, just know how you can handle and walked in her cabin. And her and the kids ran into the room, locked the door, and the mother, Sasquatch, and the child

Sasquatch, the juvenile rummaged through her kitchen in the fridge, and we're eating stuff and just making a mess. After about 30 minutes, they finally had left, and they came out of the room in the kitchen was all messed up. And she said, can you believe it? They left the door open. Oh, you know, the cold air got out. She was more mad at the air conditioning situation than there was two freaking sex quads in your house.

That checks out, though, you know. It's funny. Wow. It sounds like there's quite a bit of activity in that area. Oh, yeah. From all my research that I figured out, I've been like kind of following their trail. Because like you said, after 2003 later, I ended up becoming a law enforcement investigator, bodyguard, you know, parent detention, federal detention officer and worked as a, you know, a hearing officer.

And so I was able to now, like, really improve my investigative skills and tracking skills and took every opportunity that my mom's, the sports department would give, you know, classes. type, you know, of anything to do with animals and tracks and, you know, the local fauna. Because of that, I was able to start really putting together where they travel and how far they travel. And I didn't realize that Sasquatch do go through deserts. And they're able to run 100 miles and not a problem for them to just go. And they'll travel all the way to a different mountain range here because there's about 60 miles in between our mountain ranges in White Tens Missile Range, the Homeland Air Force Base,

that leads all the way to El Paso, Texas, and Guides, Mexico. And I followed the trail, because there were reports from the military guys doing their patrol at the missile range, and they report seeing Sasquatch out there at night, and one of them reported, you know, seeing one running with their Humvee. They're driving at full speed, you know, I think it was like 45 or 55 or something, and it was keeping up, it was on all fours, just do-do-do-do-do-do-do with them. And then you go even farther down the mountain range, which I believe the Oregon Mountains,

eventually they'll get to the Border Patrol area where the border is. And they have reports from the Border Patrol themselves at 9-10 using their flare, you know, so you can see the heat signature, and they would occasionally see a Sasquatch squatted inside a big bush waiting for illegal immigrants. and there's been bodies found out there, you know, dismembered, but they say it's cartel. We don't know. But I think it's really interesting that in that same area, there's hills there, mountains, smaller mountains, they have tons of old mines, okay?

Old silver mines and Otroger's mines. And the local urban legend for a long time in that area was that there's a witch that lives in those caves. And if you go up there, she'll catch you and eat you. And the description of the witch is about an eight-foot-tall hairy-covered monster. Oh, wow. Yeah. I want to verify, I want to, I guess, just make sure I heard it right, something you said a minute ago. So you're saying that there are actual reports you've taken from Border Patrol where Sasquatch is pretty much dispatching or believed to dispatch illegal immigrants as they cross the border?

in El Paso, my family, I have my uncles that was one of the, a sheriff in El Paso, Texas, and my other uncle was a police officer, and his son is a police officer. He's a detective there at the department now. And one of my other uncles was the Border Patrol. So I got to hear from, you know, them. And there's actually a video on YouTube with a Border Patrol agent telling the same story. It's on YouTube. He's in uniform and everything.

He's talking about them seeing big, yeah, big foot's out there. That is absolutely fascinating. Do you get a lot of reports from that Holloman Air Force Base in the White Sands area? Not really two, like, bunches. The base has a lot of weird crap going on because of the missile range. Do you remember that movie or hero of the movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Sure. That happened here on that moment.

that missile age. It was based on that here. So there's more UFO reports here in that area of the base than Sasquatch, but they have been, you know, multiple reports of those weird things being found out there. I think it's, was it a big, Sasquatch files or Bigfoot files with Lynn. Do you know her name, Lynn? Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, she used to have like playlists of different reports.

It's like the reports from, you know, Wildman from the 1800s and 1900s reports. And then she had a section where it was military reports. And in her, in one of those videos, she also talks about, for Holland Air Force Base, talking about, you know, some of the reports that have been turned in from there. So I would say the more, the most reports out here is normally UFOs. and closer to the reservation, it's more common to hear about the Bigfoot situation. It's occasional in weird. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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for GSK. Also, which is everything from where I'm sitting right now in this moment, everything I'm

talking about is pretty much within an hour at most. Where I do the majority of my research, which I do

it everywhere now, but the majority of my research I live at the base of the mountain here and it's in

Cloudcroft, New Mexico. And it's about a 15 to 20 minute drive from my location. So it's right right here. And yeah, it's picking and people are coming out more and more willing to talk about this because it's become mainstream, you know, the Sasquatch deal because of, you know, the Internet.

But yeah, it's true. It really is. I mean, I've only been in this for about five years and I can even see a difference over the last five years. It just continues to become more and more mainstream. stream. The focus of the interview is definitely going to be on Bigfoot, but I am going to ask a question just because if I don't, my listeners would be like, why didn't you ask a question? So, but we'll twist it, you see. So you're, you're greatly known for playing a role in the show Breaking Bad,

correct? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So during the filming of that show, did the topic of Bigfoot ever come up? Yes. Do you have any stories you can share? Well, the, when you're in between scenes, sometimes there's an hour in between or less or more, depending on how technical the scene is and they have to reset, you know, everything, there's explosions or gunshots, whatever. So I would always be bored as hell.

And I'm curious and I'd go, you know, talk to the other, you know, actors and they're like, Hey, man, believe in Bigfoot. You know what I mean? And they'd like, no, do you? And I'm like, mm-hmm. And then I would tell him, you know, experience that I've had. So the one person that showed the most interest in it was RJ Middy. He plays Walt Jr.

I'm breaking bad. And, yeah, me and him ended up being roommates and living in LA together. So he was the most interested in Bigfoot. and wanted to hear everything I had to talk about it and wanted to plan a hunt. And then his mom said no, that that would not be good for his career. And then, yeah, I got offered two different TV shows. Do you remember the TV show Sons of Anarchy? Sure, yep, yep.

Okay, well, there was a girl and an actress named Kristen Renton. She was one, the two main characters, they were brothers, and one was named Toby, and he had like a long beard. his wife on the show, girlfriend, he was a pretty girl, they were going to do a big foot hunting show with me and her

because it became so, they heard so much about you know, me and being connected with that stuff. And they thought, but it didn't work out. She ended up doing

some other project and that never happened. Then I got offered another show that I was going to be doing with Megan Fox. And me and it was going to be the us

doing investigations around the world of all the weird stuff, you know? Not just Bigfoot, not just beautiful, not just go, just a little bit of everything. And it was all ready to go. And then Victoria's Secret offered her, I don't know, that was like,

quarter million dollars to go do a runway tour with them or something. And it paid twice as much as they were offering her to do the show. So she went with the Victoria's Secret Thing and then met her new husband that you know today but she didn't have done Kelly. What could have been?

That would have been a very interesting show and I mean, who knows you may even get something offered in the future. I mean, you're getting some. I just got married so that didn't work out too well. My wife was like, no, no. She was not abort. She was like, no, I was like, come on.

Come on. Bigfoot. You know? So, yeah, it was like the producers wanted me and Kristen from the sense of anarchy to spend two weeks in the forest. No cameras, no nobody else just meeting her, and they wanted me to teach her for two weeks.

Every single thing possibly I knew about hunting and the Sasquatch, you know, so for the show. And that was just did knock out, you know? No, no, that would have not made it better. I'm a professional. I'm a professional. I mean, I'm not a dog. I'm a faithful man, but I don't blame any woman that would be my same, but doing that.

It's good. You're like, no, sorry, buddy. You know? If that had happened, that two-week period, what kind of things would have you had brought up during that time? Well, first thing I would show her is how to recognize an area that has squatch in it, more than likely. That's how I try. I don't just go to random spots. First, of course, I'll look up the areas where there's been reports,

but I only go in certain areas that I see the telltale signs of Sasquatch, which is their tree liens, their wooden hieroglyphs, you know, pretty much, that they're used to talk to each other. They're not for us humans to know, and we're not supposed to know exactly what's going on with them. So, you know, that would be the first thing to show that if you see these specific, specific things like there's a tree lien with giant X's, trees that are sticking the ground upside down, things that humans can't do without a major tractor or, say, a crane.

And if, you know, you're like, okay, well, somebody came in here with a tractor or crane, they could move these things. And, you know, I would tell her, okay, if that's the case, then where did it have to go through to get to that spot? And if those trees aren't knocked down for it to go through there, then probably wasn't one of those things. Anything that you see that's odd in the forest, you've got to ask yourself first, can a human do it? And if a human could possibly pull it off, then you've got to ask yourself, why? Why would they do that? And how far are you into the mountains?

Like, would somebody go, man, this would be so funny. I'm going to make a wood structure. And hopefully in the next like 10 years, somebody will accidentally walk onto it. You think it's a big foot. You know what? And it's like, okay. Because if you ever lifted wood, if you're out there, or you've done any wood chopping,

a log that's longer than four feet and ten inches thick, they get pretty heavy, you know? So when you're dealing with giant teepees, 40 foot, 30 foot, 50 foot teepees, and these logs, you go there and you've got to look and see, did this just fall over? Is it snowfall? You know, is it a dying tree?

Is it a disease tree? If the root did not come out of where it's at, it was brought there. And if it was brought there, could a human have done it? And if a human couldn't have done it, which animal in that forest could have done it. And if you can't figure out all the known species in that forest that possibly somehow strangely could pull that off, which usually isn't the case, then you fall into, it might have been a big foot. Is it fall into the normal, quote unquote, normal tree structure situations that are commonly found in Bigfoot areas? Then you can say, hey, I think it's a Bigfoot. And then from there, that's when you go deeper into looking for tracks, for, you know, seats where they'll sit, you know, and eat up in onus from the pine cones and watching certain areas, stuff like that.

Little things like that to look out for. and I would tell her not to throw out the baby with the bathwater because a lot of big foot researchers do this, they'll see smaller things, small structures, and they'll just automatically, but yeah, no, it's too, that's way too low. It was a deer. A deer broke that branch. A deer did this.

It was a deer. You can't throw away what you're finding because they have children. And how do we teach our children to do what we? want to do. We show them and they copy us. So I'm a big old Sasquatch and I'm making a big old, you know, TP or say like a wigwam, a little shelter

or doing the grid patterns with the wood on the, you know, making these weird strange grids with the fallen trees. And then you're finding little versions of them. More than likely it's either a juvenile or one of the little saskwatches. The little feet. They look like saskwatches with their

tying, they're like dwarves. Yeah. There's so much to, I would have the future, but I'd have two full weeks to go through it all, and that would have been enough. Have you gotten to the point where you are, you know exactly what Bigfoot is, or you've made the decision in your mind,

okay, this is what Bigfoot is, this is what it's all about. Yeah. Well, one, without a question, it's real. Bigfoot's real. Two, I believe it's a human. I don't think it's local fauna or just a big, just a gorilla or a chimpanzee. Not that they're stupid or anything, but it's just, it's not just an animal.

It's actually, it's a human. And it's just a really hairy, large one that cannot do everything we can do easily and survive, you know, way easier. But I really do believe that the Sasquatch were the first version of humans. and at some point they got well if you study you know ancient history and the Samarians and all the different Native American stories of the first ones that were here were mischievous

they were too big they were too strong they didn't want to listen they were causing tons of problems and call them gods call them presidents call them whoever was in charge got pissed off in pretty much kind of banned them from interacting with human us. And they were sent all to the depths of the forest around the world.

They were to mingle amongst men again. And we're getting now, people are finding a bunch of big giant hairy dudes in these forests. But it's way more complicated than that I think it's not just, you know, really common, it's that have survived from, you know, way back when because there's reports of them being with aliens or grays or Bertilion. whatever you want to call them, demons, all the same little word guys are the big heads and the big, you know,

those big almond-shaped eyes. Some are green, some are gray, some are white, some are dark brown, some black. They've been seen with them. UFO reports are often follow a bigfoot sighting or orbs glowing. Then you've got the people that say, you know, they can jump into different dimensions.

I think that they're like humans in the sense that some are wild imbred and just kind of like Neanderthal men but way way more

primitive primitive and then I think there's some that are like us in the hippie sense make love not war we love you we care about humans they try to protect us there's the stories that where you find you know your little kids or somebody was saved by one

and then there's the ones that hate us with a passion that'll eat us out of anger not because are hungry. And then like I said, the list goes on. There's ones that I'm guessing our military has, that they're messing with. Like I said, there's so much

to them that it's not, I can't just stick them in one little section, but for sure, they are real and some sort of human, because you know, we worked on the DNA of Sasquatch with the whole genome project, it's half human. Period. The other half? We're not

the military knows, but the mother, the mitochondrial DNA was a human mother. The first one, when they were first made, which goes to the story with the Samarians of when they created men.

And the first one was covering hair. They made. It was art of physical dissemination, and they combined it with a human mother, and commented from Were they were occupying, apparently, local colonies, you know, for slavery reasons.

Some really fascinating stuff. And the thing I love about the topic is that there's literally something for everyone in the field of Bigfoot. I think people that aren't in the field of Bigfoot, they're like, oh, it's just, it's just whatever. But when you start looking into it, you're like, oh, there's so many different ways I could look into this. Bigfoot Society will be right. back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts

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even the things are all a lot about the Now, you kind of mentioned military stuff for a bit. And I'm curious what your thoughts are on this.

Do you think, you know how right now we're kind of living through a UFO disclosure? It's happening for the last few years, and now it's becoming more and more, even as we're talking. Do you think maybe we will sometimes, maybe we'll live through that with, with, with, Bigfoot or Sasquatch? I would say not by them telling us. If it does happen, it'll be because they can't control a situation with them. The only way I would see it coming out because it's way too useful as an asset to the military versus, you know, like the UFO thing.

The UFO thing we can't really touch. It's not in our backyard. It's very, very elusive, you know, beyond, you know, looking in the forest. And, of course, they have a lot of technology themselves. They're using UFO-wise that they can get away and say, oh, it's aliens, you know? But with the Sasquatch thing, I think they're more interested in the whole DNA aspect of it and using it for some type of not cool things, you know? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, no, for sure, because I, you know, you'll hear some say, there's no evidence. All the roots of similarity pictures, right? But if you actually do the research and take the time to do the research, there's more than enough evidence times 10, you know, times 20 squared to the root up, you know what I mean? Right, yeah.

We got footprints with dermal ridges that are not human. The dermal ridges run the same direction as the great apes, you know, like gorillas and chimps. We got video, we've got pictures. We've got good pictures. and everybody complains about, there's no clear pictures. Well, we got clear pictures

and then everybody said, it's a fake because it can be real. They're too good. Yeah, I mean. So, like, a lot of people out there that, you know, I'm going to hear, I'm going to say that word,

odd standing. Oh, yeah. No, it's cool. That pisses up a lot of people. No, I know. There's people all over the world that are just going to click on this right now. It's like, it's fine.

We can talk about Todd. Don't worry about it, guys. I want you all, y'all just listen, and I'll give you all some good reasons to keep on listening. All right. So I think there's two reasons a lot of people don't like Todd's saying.

That's a huge problem in the Bigfoot world and every other cryptid and paranormal group out there. Oh, it's so much drama. Silly drama. Everybody judges everybody by their personality, not on their evidence, but by their personality. and if they like them on it.

Outstanding, okay? He's abrasive. I mean, no disrespect to you, Todd. I know you're passionate and you're doing what you're doing, man. But a lot of people don't like how passionate he is. You know, when he was out hunting with Jeff Neldrum, you know, Dr. Jeff said, you know, he's a little, he's just really, a little overly passionate, you could say.

And it's like, look, it's obviously big. it's obviously big foot, which, because he's seeing it out there, it's obvious to him, but Dr. Jeff, he isn't ready to just declare stuff. You know what I mean? He works out of university still. He's got to worry about that stuff. But so I listen to everybody's complaints about Todd Standing, and their complaints, the biggest one they said it's fake, and I ask them, why do you think it's fake?

They'll tell me, oh, there's footage of him faking it. I'm like, really show it to me. Crickets. Okay, let's throw that out to work. Nobody's been able to show me the footage that proves that he's fake, you know? The other, the next answer is, oh, his sister-in-law works in the movie industry as the makeup artist. So it was made by her. She made, you know, the mask they put on Todd, right?

And it's Todd standing himself for pretending to be Bigfoot and taking pictures of himself. Well, luckily, I'm not. a professional and I've been in the movie industry for going on 20 years now. And I know special effects. I went to cosmetology for makeup a long time ago. Those are two different departments. The makeup lady, she dust your forehead and your nose so it's not too shiny for the camera. She'll glue on maybe a fake mustache or a goatee or put on a wig on you. She's not a creature creator. They don't make animatronics.

They don't make masks. You need special effects, people to do that. It's not cheap whatsoever, okay, to do that. He does not scream wealthy to me. Just that's just personal, my own opinion, to where he would be wasting the money to do that on what it would cost. Do you remember the movie, The Dark Crystal? Sure, yeah, classic Jim Henson movie, right?

Exactly. So I'm friends with a guy that worked with Jim Henson on that movie, Michael McCormick. He is a puppeteer, you know, for Jim Henson and helps, you know, build those type of things. And for that movie, they need a little bit of everything. Some things are animatronics. Some things are people in suits. Some things are puppets, you know, in that movie. So I asked him, and I said, Michael, do me a favor.

I'm going to send you some images in a video. I need to know something. Is it a mask? Is it a puppet? Or is it animatronic? Or do you think it's an animal? That's all I want to know. And if you think it's animatronic or a puppet or a mask,

what kind of budget would I need to pull that off? Okay. Now, one of the images of the same thing, Asquatch, it's next to a tree which has certain size of needles, you know, the leaves, or the needles of a specific type of evergreen. You can literally figure out the size of the head of that, whatever it is, by measuring those needles next to its head, which it shows when you do that, that it's a giant freaking head. You know what I'm saying?

It's not a normal side of the head. It's huge. And so Michael said it's not a puppet for sure. It's not a mask. And if it's animatronic, which he doesn't think it was, for that size of a head with movable blinking eyes. And that's large. And you have to have a whole team to run it.

If you ever seen that type of stuff actually done in Hollywood, you literally have five to ten people all working different parts of that animal, fake animal, whatever you want to call it, animatronic things, to make it all work together to be believable for an audience. And you're looking at a million dollars to build something like that and have a whole team to do that. You know? So a bunch of stuff points to me that, no, it's not fake.

Sure, he may be abrasive. he may be, you know, considered a jerk or whatever, but his sister-in-law, whatever, makeup people don't do that kind of stuff. And if she was doing that kind of stuff, it would be an IMDB with all her credits as a special effects artist and creating creature cool stuff. You know what I mean? Because if that's animatronic and fake or puppets, she needs an award. She needs to be working in Hollywood way more than she is.

instead of putting on a lipstick and eye shadow on people. And dying gray hair is black. You know what I mean? That's the only reason why I think. And I also, I measured the picture. There was all, look, you're standing under a mask. If you measure the eye of that Sasquatch, the main one that he shows, you know,

and you check the distance between the eyes, I went to art college. I went to commercial art college. I know anatomy. I know the distance of humans have one eye in between. the eyes we have. The size of your left eye and the same size of your right eye

unless you've got, you know, you're born, you know, malformed. It's one eye in between. If you measure the one, you know, the eye on that, you know, alleged Sasquatch,

it fits three of its eyes in between the two eye. Oh, wow. Which is physically impossible for a human. Unless you've got like elephant man syndrome or something. Right. I mean? So I don't care if,

People are jerks. There's a lot of people in the Bigfoot community that I can't stand. Ooh, we just want to be like, smack them just so hard. But that does not have anything to do with real evidence, any type of evidence. And we are dying for real evidence, and we're going to throw it out some of the best visual photography ever of Sasquatch outside of, you know, government sources,

I would try a little harder to scrutinize it a little bit better than just doing a gift image overlay and saying that his history law made it. You know what I mean? If that's all the evidence you got, come on, guys. We're going backwards. We're going backwards. That should be like, you know, cares if he's a weirdo

or whatever people want to call them, whatever. You know, it's like, it's like imagine people getting pissed off at Dr. Jeff Meldrum because his beard. Well, I don't like his Sasquatch theories and his work on feet because he's got a stupid bear. It's like, come on, guys. Really? You guys are killing me, dude. Well, I like the mustache better a little bit, you know, mustache Mildrum. That's classic.

I'd say definitely. this Todd standing discussion is such an interesting discussion I will tell you this I did interview a gentleman who had a wild encounter outside of Oakridge Oregon and the way he he was very hesitant to describe the the face of it and he was like I know I'm going to get I'm going to get crud for this but I will tell you that what Todd standing captured in that photo is what I saw that day. And I know a lot of people, after I say this, will not pretty much not take my encounter seriously because there's just so many people. Yeah, it's weird. It's such an interesting topic,

but I've never talked to Todd personally. Right. But it's such a weird, how it's such a polarizing conversation, right? Right. You've heard of Dr. Bendonable? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Okay. A lot of people love that guy. A lot of people love his research, right? So that's all open with. I love to do this because it's so funny. I'll tell you, you heard of Dr. Bendernagle. Oh, I love that old man. That's his soul and RIP and, oh, man, he was the real deal, right?

Then I'd be like, well, you know, he went out with Todd Standing and Todd showed him videos that he hadn't told him to anybody else of says asswashes. And Dr. Bendernagle said, It's real, but he has. It's not fake. And his own professional opinion, outstanding is not making it up. So are you saying that you think Dr. Bendernagle's a fake too?

Or is he just a old, stupid old man that you guys don't trust? Or are you going to trust the 30 plus years of his work? Knowing this creature and deciding for himself, while he was up there actually with Todd going to the areas and seeing all the footage that he had is you scared to show more people

because everybody's all oh it's fake you know what I mean right it's a very yeah it's a very interesting conversation especially

it's tough when some of the parties involved are no longer with us so you can't ask them you know well he's on video saying it

that's the team yeah right he's literally on video yeah yeah You know what I mean? So it's like, uh,

right? See, my issue is, I don't care what other people think. Big size, a lot of people have gone out with me hunting or they've invited me to go with them. And for whatever reason, I'm a weird magnet.

Okay? And I get interaction a lot, especially at nighttime with all these people that I've gone with and people that don't like me. And they get mad because they've had nothing going on. and I go with them and then all of a sudden there's action

whatever you want to call it. So a lot of people they can't say oh, he's making it dope because it happened when I was with him. I've got pictures

of freaking big puts looking in my tent. I've seen those. Two of them. Yeah. Yeah. And a friend, a funny looking green guy,

you know, and I've got more photos that nobody has, not too many people I've really seen more recent because the original, the 10th thing, was in 2017. But this was it last year.

Yeah, I got my new phone. It's, you know, the Android Ultra 13, 24 or whatever, Super Zoom, night paying shot. It costs way too much and I'm still a type of phone. And I took my parents out camping. We had been camping together in years. And we went to an area where there was reports, you know, the campers saying that something was throwing rocks in their town and, you know, the usual, you know, silliness of the bigfoot's like to do.

And but I was like, I'm not hunting, I swear. Let's just have, enjoy ourselves. And yeah, eventually started hearing weird crap. And now it was a good time to try out this night, you know, night shot that it has. But there's a night vision and nothing like that. It's just, it's a five second delay. And I guess it takes in all the light possible. If there's absolutely no light, it don't work.

That's at least some kind of light source. even in a small, small, fire in the camp, just amazing. And I, I, brightened them up, and sure enough,

I have, it looks like a juvenile Sasquish in from it, a branch. You know, do you remember those red little monkeys in a barrel that you hang with each other?

Oh, yeah. It was in that, that clothes, exactly, okay, hanging down, out of the branch. And then, but this is the wildest night,

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that I ever got in a picture what I believe is a werewolf, wolf man, dog man, whatever they

want to call him. You go on the same night. A wolf person, dude,

look, just mean, a big foot with his eyes blowing and on the right side of

big foot, a gray. So, like, what's going on? You know what I mean? How can I categorize that? You know, it's like I already had in 2017, showing two Sasquatch with a green gray, whatever you want to call it, a reptilian, red eyes, green skin.

I don't know. I don't know. And I've been blessed enough because of my movie career in being a semi-celebrity, a lot of different researchers, they want to meet me, they want to talk to. They want to invite me out, you know, when they were hunting and stuff. and it opened a bunch of doors to being involved with them.

I'm serious, you know, cool things of researchers and working with Jim Goodall and being on the Falcon Project before it fell apart, the Gino Project, you know. Yeah, you know, I, you know, I worked with Jeff Meldrum, working with other anthropologists, having anthropologists, you know, heads of different universities, coming to me asking me questions about it and say, that's wild that's pretty wild stuff you know and i've seen them myself i know it's real i videotape

not great footage you know nothing amazing but it was a saskatch i was the one that saw it we're driving home you know on the reservation novel reservation the couple that i was giving a ride to walmart to get some food the wife she's a we're talking we're talking about bigfoot and she's like hey look there's one right there i was like what we turned to the right and sure no there's a big foot just walking down the irrigation field. Oh, wow. Pull over, jumped out and filmed it, you know? But, yeah, there's just too much evidence that I've gotten in.

I'm out that anybody scrutinize my stuff. I don't mind tell the truth. I don't care at all. I ain't worried and scared about nothing. I'm already a public figure. People ask me, I'm worried about it destroying my career. And I'm like, what are they going to destroy it? Right.

What? They're not going to want me to play a drug dealer. They won't let me play a murderer, carrying a, bodies in the desert. Oh, no. Not the scary guy. Come on. Whatever, man. The whole reason I got into Hollywood was because I had to pay bills. I found out I had a daughter.

And I was like, I need to do something that's going to make me money. I don't have the money to go to 12 years of school for a lawyer or a doctor. You know, I need to get into a business. I know I can make a good amount of money to take care of my parents and the kids. And, yeah, that's how I, I got in that because I knew I was so stereotyped by society because I'm a big giant Mexican. I know, ballheaded, got tattoos, got tear drives, a whole, you know, gambit. And yeah, I've been screwed with.

I faced tons of years in prison on false charges. Never been convicted of a felony once. But I faced those how many years on stupid crap because I matched the description, you know? And so I was like, well, man, Hollywood should eat it up. They only got normal size of Mexicans. You know what I mean? I'm a giant one in the realm of normal side of Mexicans. You know, six for three is huge.

But yeah, so that's, you know, I wasn't my dream to be an actor. I wasn't like, you know, taking acting class, oh, I wish. No, I was, I went to my first call as an extra on a Steven Seagall movie. And I was the only giant Mexican where he was supposed to be in East LA beating up his Mexican gang. But they were a normal size. So I looked like he was beating up little kids. He's six foot five, you know? And I was already a bodyguarder professional.

fighter law enforcement you know all that stuff and I and I was like yeah dude I'm down to fight him you know and they're like okay come come meet him and we met he tried me out you know for my acting skills you know just some improv and he liked it it was good enough for his movie

and he said I want you to meet me at my hotel tonight so we can fight they wouldn't just see what I could do so I was like hell yeah I don't care what anybody says about students ago they go oh you're some things oh you're some fake martial artist. No, he's a 6.25 giant

that is very strong. Don't care how chubby he is or not. But he is the only Caucasian man ever given the permission by the Akusa in Japan to teach Akito as a master.

Fake martial arts can't do that. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, so that's how I got into Hollywood. Like that, I became just a bad guy. It was to fight. and get shot and carry people. But yeah, so I don't, I'm not concerned about that because this is all the Bigfoot stuff, the UFO stuff, the ghost stuff, all the weird stuff did I experience and, you know,

share with everybody. That was happening before any job. I had. Exactly. It's such an interesting path that you've gone down. It's really cool. There's a few things I want to circle back around real quick to make sure that they don't disappear.

So that picture that you took just last year where it's like the Bigfoot, the alien and the dogman type creature, is that it sounds like that's just that's not a public thing at all? Not officially. I haven't put out of the video yet. Are you able to receive pictures more around the phone or no? I mean, you can, you, my email, I have an email you could send it to. Yeah, it's Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Okay. Yeah, I'll send you those pictures.

and you can trip out of them. All right, cool. You know? And that's the thing. I show everybody, because I do enhance images. I'll tell them. But I will let everybody know exactly what free app I'm using on my phone.

Right. The process in the original picture, I am happy to show them all that. And all my videos on my channel, on my YouTube channel, I do that because I don't want people being worried. Look at it. It's obviously been messed with.

It's like, yes, yes, it has been brightened. It has been sharpened. I have added slight contrast. I have, you know, adjusted the ambience so you guys can see better. I know it's there. Like, not everybody can see what I'm seeing right now. So I need to bring it out a little bit better so you can see. Because, like, I'll send you some of the, like, the original shots before brightening and stuff.

Like, with the two bigfoot's in my tent, no, looking in the tent. Some people haven't seen. I don't just have those couple of pictures of them looking in the table. tent. I've got to where they were freaking out the guy that I was with, he was about to, you know, on the verge of the official panic attack, I shine the flashlight in their face. And you can see one of the Sasquatch grimace. Oh, my goodness.

In the picture, he's grimace, and like, that's bright, you know what I mean? If it was a mask, how the hell did it do that? Wow. How can you grimace? You know what I mean? And then, like, you've heard of thinker-thunker? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's great.

okay it's a good friend of mine oh is he really yeah and I think he's gotten too concerned with people what they say and he's always trying to prove to them

and he's having like in those videos they're like more about that than just the research anymore I hope he works that out and stuff's keeping the crap what people say

he just does what he does because I love I love what he does, you know? But he came out with a way to measure the faces of Sasquatch and their arms and legs is mainly, you know, concerned with. But, yeah, when you measure the face of the majority of actual possible Sasquatch images, they're not human proportions, you know. For normally, unless, of course, they're born, you know, mild formed.

Like if you get your finger right now And you put it under your nose The top of it should touch your nose And the bottom of your finger Should touch your upper lip Or at least close Sasquatch Not all of them

But I'll say the majority From what we're seeing You fit two fingers Not one but two That's where their mouth begins Under that part When he came out with that It was after

My incident in 2017 with those images. I used his, anything he does for the face measurements. Be fit. They fit. Wow.

How would I know in advance that he was going to invent that thing by scrutinizing all these different images and videos? How would I know that? Three years earlier. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I can't wait too

to see those. What was it that you did with Jane Goodall? Well, she was on the talking project. Oh, right. Yeah. And she was going to be part of the Geno project, too. Can you explain real quick what the,

a lot of people are not going to know what the Falcon Project is, I think. Okay. So once upon a time, a long, long time ago. Right. There was a guy named William Barnes. He was always cool to me. I'm sorry everything went crappy with the situation, because he meant well.

Got dealt the hard hand. But the Falcon Project was a, they're going to send up an airship drone, but not the typical drone with just the propellers, but it looks like actual blimp panda. And they're going to send it up way high and it would have all the different abilities

of, you know, LiDAR. I don't know about lighter, but, you know, night vision, heat sensing, all that fun stuff. And they were going to send it over areas so Bigfoot wouldn't know that they were passing by watching what's down there. and they had multiple individuals

that were going to be on the ground. I was one of those individuals that was going to be there for six months in the forest. Yeah, living there and doing all the research with several other people that have been chosen. And then you had the anthropologists that were going to report to all our information and what we're getting the evidence of.

But unfortunately, pulled all the funding and people showed up to the locations and there was no one there because nobody had told them that that had happened unfortunately and luckily somebody reached out to me before I headed out and said hey dude don't come it's not happening it pulled the plug you know but it was a really huge thing that was going on it was there was lots of excitement for it I was excited for it. I was looking forward to just being stuck in the forest for six months. Just, you know,

I love that kind of stuff, you know. But yeah, so it fell apart. And then later came the genome project. There was a hundred to study. We're working with Oxford University on the DNA, the Sasquatch. And there was 100 samples

given. And then everybody started attacking Melba-Kitcham because she's start telling other stuff beyond her work as a DNA expert. And people, once again, are judging people on their personality or they just don't like them, not on their actual physical evidence or, you know, the evidence that they put forth.

There is a lot of jealousy in the field as well. Oh, yeah. I've seen that in the last five years. destroy relationships that should have lasted for decades. Yeah, that's all I'll say about that. But it's, it can be, yeah, just guys, don't get jealous. It's in every, it's in everything. It is.

In film, regular jobs, you know, it doesn't matter where you are. Humans are just, oh, they can be so stupid sometimes. You know what I mean? It's just, it's the same everywhere. It doesn't matter. because I'm involved with so many different types of the paranormal, and I've been an expert for the UFO TV shows. I dealt with, you know, you know, you're an odd, you ghosts.

I'm a pastor. I've been cleansing in houses. I deal with my own issues with ghost and stuff. I have seen UFOs. I've seen the little gray guys. I've seen so much. It's just that the Bigfoot thing is what people find most interesting, I guess, that I get requested to talk about most.

Sure. You know? And yeah, and that's why I don't care. It's like, y'all can hate me all you want. This is my normal life. I can't turn it off. I'm just sharing with you guys what I'm experiencing and what I believe is going on.

I am not here to prove anything to anybody. I'm just here to share what I'm finding out in an experience. Have you done any research or gotten any expeditions outside of the Southwest? I've done Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Washington, Oregon, Oklahoma. I've got plans already set up for Florida and upstate New York. My research and my study, I study every content on the United States of all possible SAS Watch related information. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.

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work, and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 have the virus that causes the Culebriya. Although not

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Okay. What's it called? The Honobia or Anobi or Anobi or Anobah? Oh, you went to Hohonabi? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So in that, kind of that area, you know what I mean? And yeah, the big foot's up there are mean.

It's a trip, man, because like I said, there's so many different kinds, you know, that are out there. Like, if you heard the story of the Tooby brothers, you know, that whole Sasquatch massacre war between the natives and the cavalry and the Bigfoot's, that's some wild stuff. You know, the Honati incident has some wild stuff. But like over here, you never hear the violent stuff. There's people that have gone missing, I'm sure, but you never hear in this area. violent attacks or cannibalism. In Florida, it seems like they have more of the more animalistic ape activity versus the much smaller too.

But there is giant ones out there. But the ones that mostly reported are, you know, six to seven feet at most. You know, over here, the biggest one we at work with J.C. Johnson, again, I got pictures you that. It's like at least I know this sounds ridiculous but the picture of the Sasquatch that I'm talking about is between 20 and 25 feet tall.

Wow. I mean I've heard of them that big as a gentleman, two gentlemen up in Oregon. Well, no, that was track size. I'm sorry. 23 inch track size. But what you said was in like Alaska, Canada,

up there, that's where you hear about the big ones. But here in New Mexico that's unheard of. The only reason why I say it's that big is because the picture that we have of Sasquatch, it's sitting on its butt. It's sitting on the ground, and its legs are kind of crossed, sort of.

And it's sitting in an area where these they're called the juniper trees. They're like evergreen type. Juniper trees, the tallest ones grow to about 12 feet. The average is between 10 and

11 feet of these trees. Because it's like, if you ever approach a mountain or a forest, between the flatlands and the main forest, you usually have halfway-sized trees. Not to use an actual forest to get the big boys, right? So that's the same situation here. So these trees that it's sitting next to, okay, fully growing trees,

come up to its chest, the lower part of its chest. And it's sitting down. I know that these are the trees and the size of the trees because my mom was to the forest department and I went there and showed them the picture and I was like, don't worry about whatever that is

but what kind of trees are those? Where is it at? I was like, in the majority area you're like, well, those are juniper trees. I'm like, well, how big did they grow? They're like, what is that? I'm not that worry about that. I'm just worried asking about the trees.

You know? That's funny. Yeah. When you're in Oklahoma, in Hona, Did you have any interesting things happen out there? Honestly, I didn't. Just stories. You know, but people are saying, you know, what they were strange.

Gosh. Okay. Yeah, so I needed more time there. That's the thing. I was only there for, you know, a week maybe. You know, I didn't, I was doing more, because I worked with, you know, I used to work with a lot of the reservations and, you know, doing howlows and spending time with family and stuff. So I was there, I wasn't there for Bigfoot.

I was there to spend time with the Comanches, and I drum and sing with them. So, yeah, just like I said, it's just part of my life, honestly. No, it's so strange. I want to, there's this Bigfoot, quote, unquote, museum up here where I live, that opened up. And they did it for money. They didn't really know the Bigfoot left. You know what I mean? So they're already putting it for sale, and I'm hoping to be able to buy it and do it right.

Oh, wow. That was really cool. Yeah. It would be so fun. And the connections you have, you'd be able to really set that up good. I mean, yeah. It's so cool. Jesus, this has been a really fun chat.

Thank you so much for coming on the show. As we start to wind down, you know, a few ending questions. Did you have any final thoughts or how people can keep up to date with, with all these different things you've got going on? Yeah. If you go on YouTube and you type in the search section, you can type in Breaking Discoveries. That's the name of my channel.

And Breaking Bigfoot is the series on my channel because I do other things too, but the majority of stuff is Bigfoot related, but that's Breaking Bigfoot. So you can type in either one, Breaking Discoveries or Breaking Bigfoot, and we'll see a picture of a Sasquatch with my face on it. and you'll see the majority of everything I talked about tonight on on that channel.

I'd say that'd be the most direct source. I don't, I have like 90 videos or something. I only make a video when I have new evidence. If I don't have new evidence, it takes a year. You don't go see a video for a year. You know, this I see a case that's so interesting. I've got to do a breakdown myself. But yeah, Breaking Discoveries is the YouTube channel, the Breaking Bigfoot series.

It's there. If you want to hear the podcasts that I've done, Not all of them, but a lot of them, just go to my playlists and you'll see the podcast, interviews, some of the interviews are from my movie stuff. There's another playlist called Pernormal 360. That's more of my UFO videos that I've filmed and stuff like that. But yeah, if you just want to learn about me, go on Google or whatever search engine you're using and type in Jesus Pion Jr. actor or just Jesus Jr. actor, breaking down. that's gonzo. Any of those things

will bring up the ridiculous amount of stuff that I do. Yeah, it's, that's me. I'm here. I'm reachable.

You can reach me on Facebook. Just search my name Jesus Brown Jr. If you want to write me an email, it's kind of a complicated email,

but it's breaking bads Gonzo at G-M-420 at g-gmail.com. So it's B-R-E-A-K-I-N-G-B-A-D-S G-O-N-Z-O-420 at g-mail.com If you want to share your experience, images, video, hit me up.

I don't hate. You need me to, like, enhance any pictures or anything you think might be something interesting. I don't charge. I happen to do it for free. I just want to further the research and all that we're doing and the strange and unknown. That's fantastic.

And I think probably because you have a heart like that, that's why you have all the stuff that happens to you because you've got that pure heart. That's just my personal opinion. But I've seen people that are in it for money, they're usually not going to experience a whole bunch. Anyways, that's another conversation. I'm broke with a joke. I do tattoos for money and whatever they're else. I can do for work.

I worked my ass off of my family. I am not rich by any means. And I haven't made any good money off of the Bigfoot. world like no no i just do it because i love it and i want to get get the truth out there if we can you know i love it well jesus thank you so much for coming on it has been a pleasure chatting to you tonight thank you for having me i'm honored to be on your show brother and let's do it again soon please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on youtube making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're

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If you want to join in the fun, you can join over at patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there. and again, thanks for listening. Her and I can get on here and we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it.

Who cares what anybody thinks? I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know if you ever see one of these things. You need you tell. Because if you don't, then shame on you.

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