Sabrina Carpenter Hits Back, Kristin/Jay vs Southern Charm + Kourtney Kardashian & Travis Barker Dating
00:00Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners.You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.What's up, everyone?It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday.I almost said Friday.I almost ended the week before even starting it.Wouldn't that be nice, everybody?
00:35If only.If only.We just skipped through the week.but no, alas, it is Monday, but it's going to be a good Monday.Yeah, it is.Hell yeah, it is.It is a great Monday.You know what?
00:50We're looking up and up positivity all around.I'm starting to talk like the Peloton instructors because I, they are very motivating.And they're very motivating.And I'm like, you know what?How the hell do they have this positivity all the time?Like, all right.Did you have you taken a good?class with Cody yet? Yeah, I did actually. He's my mom's favorite. I can see why. He is very energetic and he
01:22dances to the music and it's a lot of fun. I get it now. Yeah. How are we doing Francesca on this lovelySunday afternoon? I'm doing well. No complaints. Quiet weekend. Very cold this weekend. Very cold.did not really go outside at all,watched a lot of television.I got to say,Ria, I told you this and we talked about it.I've been watching Cobra Kai with Joe.And at first we were like,
01:53oh, we're not going to like this.Like this feels like super cheesy.Boy, do I take that back.First season, absolutely loved.Second season, you warned me.You said you hated it.You were like, I hated the second season.Joe and I watched the second season in a day and a half.
02:12Loved it.Loved it.Couldn't get enough of it.We were already on season three.We've already like three episodes into season three.We've been cruising through Cobra Kai.Okay.Listen, I loved the first one.
02:26I'm about to be that person that's like I was first to watch Cobra Kai.Like I, you know, I hate people like that like try to own the show.But I'm going to do that right now because I watched the first season of Cobra Cuy when it was out on YouTube.It wasn't on Netflix. No one heard about it. Watched it on YouTube. I loved it. I was like, hell yes. I'm so into this. Johnny. That's my boy. Like, I'm very into this show. By the way, if you, yeah, I'm about to say some spoilers. So if you haven't watched Kobokai, skip over this part. Yeah. Second season comes. I'm into it, of course, because I love a good cheese factor show. I love a cheese factory. I think when I watch shows with Hank,he gets in my head and makes me not like certain TV shows that I likebecause he'll like make fun of it and whatever.But he watches it.He's into it,
03:17but he's making fun of it the whole time.And so I get it.I get the humor in that.But sometimes I like to be a little naiveand act like these things are happening even though I get how cheesy it is.Yeah.Culper Kai season two was I even was like,what is happening?
03:35Like Ralph Machio,Am I saying his last name correctly?Yeah.I always mess it up.Is the worst actor ever?Oh, well, yes.He is by far the least talented person on that entire cast.It's incredible.
04:00Johnny, the guy who the blog guy, he's pretty bad.Great actor.Great actor.Yeah, he's pretty good.Ralph, Ralph, it's not.is one of the worst actors I have ever seen.And I get it.Let's respect him.
04:13The karate kid.I get it.Karate kid.The amount of times we watched the karate kid in my house growing up was almost too many.The same amount that we watched Rocky, which was a whole lot.He's so bad that it makes it hard to watch sometimes.Like, it's entertaining to watch because you're like, he's so bad.I can't look away.
04:35But at the same time, you're like, how am I supposed to be?to say that the second season of this show was dynamite when I got Ralph up there.Well, yeah, I understand.But there's a reason why he didn't, yeah, there's a reason why his acting career never tookoff after the karate kid.And I was back playing the same, he's back playing the same character.But for the rest of the show, I am into it and I love the kids.you know me.
05:10Literally Joe's making fun of me the whole timebecause I'm like just nonstop defending Robbieand Joe's like all right high school Frankeep it in your fucking pants.He's 18.I know you think he's hot.Like stop.And I'm like, I'm like Joe, don't you think he's like Sean
05:24from Boy Meets World?Like I love Sean from Boy Meets World.So like I'm like he looks like he could be a hunterlike in the family.Him or him or Jack Hunter.You know what?Now I'm all about it.I'm like I'm all about.
05:37I'm all in the kids drama.I'm bibing.I'm going to finish season three.They just got renewed for a fourth season.I saw that on Twitter.So pumped about that.Cobra Kai never dies, baby.I will watch
05:51season three because I watch the first two seasons.I must know what happens.I mean, I was going to say,how did you stop watching season two?It's a massive cliffhanger at the end.I know.The guy just fucking falls off the railing.I said, don't listen.
06:07don't know what happened to him.I hope people stop listening when I said don't listen to the spoilers.Spoilers.Because I said it.Don't that I didn't say it.Not I said it.You didn't say who though.You didn't say what name.
06:19So it's still mystery.Right.As for Robbie, Hank did also point out that he was a good looking guy.Like he, he was like, there's no way this kid's the loser.He was like he's too good looking.And he's also the same guy.who is going to be inhe's all that with Addison Ray.
06:41So I'm excited about that.You told me that and I was already really like my,I think his name is Tanner in real life.So like his stock was already rising in my book from Cobra Kai.And then you told me that and like I definitely was going to watch he's all that.Like I she's, I mean, he's all that.She's all that amazing movie.I think there's been so much hype around he's all that because of Addison Wright and
07:06everything that was like, well,obviously we're going to watch. You told me that Robbie is the guy who gets the makeover.And I was like, oh, what does this movie come out? I got to circle it on my calendar.Like now I'm, now I'm kind of with Joe. Keep it in your pants for it.I know, I know. I know. I can't help it sometimes. I know. You and your mom. You and your mother areso like. You know, I was born this way. It's fucking in my jeans. I got it from my mom.blame my mom.And your mom got it from your me-ma.
07:39Yeah.Yeah.I mean, my me-mom.They're a bunch of horn dogs.Or as boy crazy as it gets.And you know what,that Jean landed right in my lap.I wouldn't say horn dog because horn dog would make it seem like they're like,
07:55like,like, want to pounce on them and are sexually active with them and like,yeah.Like you,it's just boy crazy.It's like you see a boy, a good looking boy, and that's it.It's over.They just, yes, it's more because they both still think that they're 16.
08:11And they like talk about boys like they're 16, which is, I guess, why I also still talkabout boys like I'm 16.So it really just runs in my blood.I have no choice.Here I am fanning over.But you know what?I googled him.He's like 22 years old in real life.
08:29So it's okay.It's allowed.I was afraid.I was like, God, hope he's not like seven.Yeah, he could be like.I was like, please, once again, I'm watching these shows where the kids are so young.They play high school kids and I'm, and I Google them and I'm like,please don't be 17, please don't be 17.
08:46It's how I thought when we went with Outer Banks,with Outer Banks, it was like the first time we Googled Chase Stokes and it was like,please be older than I, like, and it all worked out.And I believe the kid who plays Robbie is like 22.So Chase Stokes was a very pleasant surprise because it was like, he was like 27.man. He's older. That's even better. That's even better than being 22. 27. That's perfect.Yeah. When they're older, it's an even more pleasant surprise. Yeah, I totally got what you're saying. But yeah, I, listen, I don't want to, it's not like a terrible show. I get why people watch it. It's good. And it's entertaining. And I did watch the first two seasons. I will watch the third. But my God, is Ralph a terrible actor. That man is. We are so on the same page.Like, I kid you not.
09:37We were watching, we watched so many episodes Friday night.And I said the exact same thing.It was one, it was, he was having some kind of monologue moment.And I turned to Joe and I was like, I'm sorry.He is such a bad actor.Like, and Joe just started laughing.We're like, yeah, he, yeah, it's pretty bad.Like, just not even close.
10:00Yeah.I don't want this to be a whole shit on Ralph moment because I get it.You know, he's.No, no, no.An icon, but he absolutely is.And I'm still going to watch a show.Like, he still got me watching a new show.So that's all that really matters.
10:13Right.I'm glad Netflix picked it up.That was a good, it was a good choice.And the third season came out quickly after the second one.So that was also pretty cool.I like when that happens.Didn't really have to wait too long for that.You don't have to wait at all because they're all out now.
10:28I'm sure.Yeah, I'm turning through them.I did actually, I watched the first episode of the third season.but that I just never, I will continue.Actually, I'm going to do it today.I have no plans in my book after this podcast.I'm going to sit in bed and I'm going to watch season three of Copacai.You know what?
10:48Better yet?I'm going to make my parents watch season three of Cobra Kai with mebecause they did watch the first two seasons as well.And I am at their house right now.And I just had meatballs.And I just wanted that to be out there.I just, my mom made me some wonderful meatballs and we're going to watchKobe Kai season three.
11:10I'm going to make that happen because of you, Fran.And for Ralph.Sounds like a lovely afternoon.Wait, have you guys watched a promising young woman?I watched that very good.Yes.Thank you for bringing that up, Noah.Thank you for bringing that up so much.
11:25I keep forgetting.We both watched it like last week too.And I said in my head, I was like, remember to talk about this on the podcast.Remember to talk about this on the podcast.And then I forgot to talk about it.But we both did watch Promising Young Woman.I don't want to spoil anything if you haven't seen it.But I would put a must watch on it.
11:44It's on Amazon Prime.So you could rent it now.And it is really so, so, so good.I'll give the premise of it, but I don't want to spoil anything.It's this woman who basically is catching predators.That's what I would say.I don't.there's way more to it obviously but i don't want to spoil too much yeah she she's basically um
12:09seeking revenge out of men in general after one of her her like after her best friend um wasyou know raped in and med school and you know like you said don't want to give away too manydetails because i think there's a lot of it's it's considered like a commoncomedy thriller is I think like the category that they put on it.It's so, so good.So well written.So cool.Like it has that indie feel,
12:43but like still very current.And Carrie Mulligan is the Carrie Mulligan's the lead actress.Phenomenal.She was so good.I've never seen her in a role like that.Like,and she absolutely crushed it.She was so good.
12:58All the guys in it were like perfectly,skeezy, like just enough.But it was, it was so good becausethe, like, the men in it,they would pull you in.And then it, and then it'd be like, wow.Like, we trusted them and we fucking shouldn't have trusted them.Like, but it was so, it was, I don't know, like you said,
13:18I'm giving away too much already.So good.I gave it, um, I gave it a 93 out of 100.Fantastic movie.I would agree.And that movie made me want to break up with Hank.Oh, I said, I watched it with Joe too.Another one.
13:36I literally, like, looked over and was like, fucking men.He was like, I know.I literally was like, fuck, man.Like, men really do suck sometimes.Like, they're really pieces of shit sometimes.Like, oh, my God.Obviously, I'm joking.I don't actually want to break up with hanging that with.
13:55No, no.Meinks have you heard that.All right.Let's get into the topics for today's show.we have a lot of good topics we're excited about. Let's get into them. Sabrina Carpenter released a newsong called Skin. It looks like it's a direct response to Olivia Rodriguez. Travis Barker andCourtney Kardashian are sparking relationship rumors. Kristen Cavaleri and Jay Cutler posted a picture togetherwith a caption that was quite mysterious as well as some Southern Charm drama involved in that.
14:26It's very messy guys. Shit's getting messy. So let's get into it. Starting theoff with Sabrina Carpenter.Sabrina Carpenter released a new song this past Friday called Skin.It seems like it's a direct response to Olivia Rodriguez's driver's license.Let the drama unfold.I mean, just fill up a bowl of tea and pour it out because this was unexpected.We didn't know that this was coming.let's play the song clear as day couldn't be about anything else obviously um the song first of all
17:27I know a lot of people were talking about the song itself I like the song itself I will saySabrina carpenter she's very very talented I like you know I loved all the tweet because this gotme to no end right and I loved all the tweets of people being like me me when I you know I loveboth of them so much like can't they just be friends?and hate Josh together.Like it's just the office like Michael holding the hands.And it's like the Olivia Rodriguez song and the Sabrina Carpenter song.It's just like I just, I love you.
18:00I love you guys so much.But it's clear.It's clear the song is about her.It's right off the bat.The first verse she says,maybe we could have been friends if I met you in another life.Maybe then we could pretend there's no gravity in the words we write.Maybe you didn't mean it.
18:17Maybe blonde was the only.rhyme, the only rhyme. And then you're like, okay, so clear as day. And then you get tothe chorus and it's like, whoa, we're getting a little, getting a little sexual. She said,you can try to get under my skin while he's on mine. Yeah, all on my skin. I wish you knew thateven you can get under my skin if I don't let you in. All right. So we'll go like even morelyrics. It's so clearly all about Olivia and there's been a lot of mixed feelings about it. I think peoplewere either upset about this or didn't really get it. And I'm still kind of confused as to where Istand. Like Sabrina definitely deserves to put this song out. It's her side. She was put into the
19:06middle of this when I don't think she really wanted to. And I feel like it's less directly aboutOlivia herself and more about howlike she's probably been gettingdeath threats for like the last two weeks from kidswho are Olivia and Josh Stans who are like you ruin themlike you know like probably really intense stuff because of that one linein driver's license that she got included in andI she felt the need to respond clearly.
19:40I feel like she should have taken a littlemore time to work on the song. I like the beat, but the lyrics seemed rushed because it was donewithin a week of driver's license coming out. People claim that Sabrina had been working on thissong since November. So maybe, maybe that's the case. I have no idea. I also feel conflicted because at firstI was like, I like Sabrina Carpenter, so don't get me wrong. But at first I was like,why is she making this song going back at Olivia Rodriguez when Olivia Rodriguez is like 17 years oldand had her heartbroken and is now number one everywhere like everywhere in my mind I understandthe death threats thing but I and obviously that should not be happening like if you are sending
20:34death threats to somebody on the internet because of drama like you're fucking loserLike, I don't know why these kids do that.There's something wrong.There's something wrong there.It's very strange.Yeah.But I understand how that would make you want to respond,but I feel like the response maybe should have been towards the,
20:56hey, guys, like, you know, leave me out of this.Please stop sending me death threats.The song sounded like it was bragging about Joshua being with her and not Olivia.and people want to say the song was like,get under my skin,get under my skin,was about like the internet.I don't think it was.
21:16I think it sounded like it was about Oliviabecause she kept mentioninghim being on her skin.I don't know.First of all,I want to say.And if this comes across creepy or weird,Noah,
21:28we're going to have to cut it out.I can't picture Joshua Bassettanybody's skin.The kid, even though he's like 22 years old,still seems like he's 17 or 16.Like he looks super young.I can't picture him getting physical with either of these women.So it's like hearing these lyrics from Sabrina Carpenter,
21:51I'm also like, what the hell is going on?They're having sex.And meanwhile, they're my age.Like I just, it's, it's, the whole thing is petty drama.I'm leaning towards being on Olivia,Rodrigo side, obviously, because she's, she's topping the charts right now. She's, she's popping off.Her song was great. Love her in high school musical in the musical series. I think she seems like areally sweet young lady. Sabrina does as well, but there was something that seemed malicious
22:27about this song to me. It just didn't seem right. I feel like it could have had better lyrics,not painted towards Olivia. And it was way.too blatant. It was just like the next week, boom, here's the song's skin, which by the way,I would have steered clear of releasing any type of song while, while driver's license is stillnumber one everywhere. Because like, your song, no offense to Sabrina, and it's not becauseSabrina's song is not as good as Olivia's. It's kind of like timing and the way it takes off on TikTok.Yeah, yeah. Nothing's going to take down.Olivia's song at this point because it's so viral. It's topping all these charts.
23:14Skin is not, I'm not saying now it sounds like I'm like, oh, if you're not going to be numberone, don't release anything at all. But it's like the next week. Yeah. Like did I almost feel likeSabrina's PR team had it mixed up. They thought Sabrina would release this song in the middleof the drama and then her song would also go right to the top. Well, yes, but I always,also think that this is the,this is the time you release a new song.Like your name,you're being talked about so much.
23:45Like,there's so many people out there who listened to this song because of the dramathat would normally not listen to a Sabrina Carpenter song,you know?People who are invested in the Disney drama,which is why,which is why there are so many rumors about all this being some elaborate PR stuntand everything,
24:06which,I like I stopped people being like you all you guys are crazy that you don't think that this is allPR like Sabrina had this song ready to go already they have this all planned Josh had a song to releaselike okay first of all I don't think anybody expected driver's license to take it off the way it didI don't think Olivia's label expected it to do that I don't think Olivia expected it like I don'tthink the only way that they could plan the rest of that rollout is if they knew that like driver'slicense was going to be so huge. And I don't think that they did. I think Sabrina's people or manager,whatever, like, hey, if you had a song, put it out because this, your name is hot in the streets right now.
24:49People are, people are, are going to listen. But I do agree with you, Ria, that it did feel,it did feel a little malicious at times. And it's hard because I think both of these women are sovalid in their feelings. And it sucks that this is like, because of a boy.But it's like Olivia just went through.I feel like her first real intense heartbreak.You can feel in the song.She's so talented.She can like she has that.
25:16And I know everyone's been comparing to Taylor Swift.Like she has that Taylor Swift ability to like really put her emotions in the songwhere you can feel it.And you felt it in driver's license where the song felt more like it was about Joshand the heartbreak and less about suburb.herself. It was more like, oh, now you're with a blonde girl who like makes me really insecure becauseshe is older than me. She's, you know, she's a beautiful girl. And Sabrina, from Sabrina's side,it's probably like, hey, you could have just left me out completely. You know, like Lee, you could have
25:55written that song without including me, including, including her escalated the situation so muchwhere like now Sabrina became the enemy in so many people's eyes,so many high school musical,the musical, the series fans being like,oh, she's ruining Ricky and Nini,like all of these things,you know,like people free.
26:14Yeah,I might be talking about myself because that is my biggest concern.I'm like,if this fucks up Ricky and Nini on the show,I'm going to be so pissed.But,and,and,
26:24you know,it was at times,but then there's times when,you know,Sabrina wrote in the bridge,I just hope that one day we can laughabout it when it's not in our face, won't have to dance around it, don't drive yourself insane,it won't always be this way. So, you know, she knows she's been in, she's been on TV for a long
26:42time. She's been in the spotlight. She's, you know, had some relationships and drama and whatnot.And I'm just looking forward to the day that Sabrina and Olivia can meet up, work it out.Maybe they make a TikTok together. Everybody freaks out. And they become,become friends or work it out in some way.And then like Josh, this kid cracks me up.Like, yes, he posted on his Instagram story after driver's license came out.It was like, great song.Congrats, Olivia.
27:14And then this skin comes out and he posted a story again.Like, haven't gotten this song out of my head since I heard it.Like, great job.So excited for like, what's to come.It's like, oh, you're trying to like be nice, but it's not working.Apparently Josh and Sabrina have a song together.on Josh's EP that's coming out,which certainly doesn't help the PR case.
27:38Like that's like, oh, okay,now you guys are going to have a song come out together.But look, it was a lot of drama.Olivia was on her Instagram story,like unbothered fucking singing Taylor Swift in her car.Like, are you ready for it?That wasn't unbothered.That was highly bothered.
27:58That's what I took that story as.I loved it.Oh, yeah.I mean, the lyricsRight, right.Oh, with that Instagram storywas a highly bothered person.That's true.
28:13You know what I mean? It was like, I'm now going to write another songthat's actually going to be number two on the chartsbecause it's going to go driver's license and whatever song comes after that.Because the thing is, I think that all your points that you made are spot on.And you're right.You got to put a song out.I don't know why I would think you wouldn't put a song out while your name is there.That's, that's right.
28:35The song has to be better, though.And it's no, maybe it's just not my cup of tea.Once again, I'm not trying to shade Sabrina Carpenter because I actually really like Sabrina Carpenter.It's a different opinion because I really, I really like the song.I like driver's license better and not, we're comparing the two just because they're both in the same sentence.But no shade to her at all, but I feel like you need, like, driver's license.license just hit so hard that I feel like yeah it's like when drake put out back to back and thenmeek mill put out his fucking disc track that was like not even that bad but in comparison to his
29:15response yeah drake's response it nobody's ever listened to that disc track twice like that'sright that's kind of how i look at it it wasn't bad it just was not back to back at all not evenclose back to back. We're like in the world of. Yeah. Disney distracks. Yeah, we are.That's like what we're living. We are literally living in a Disney distracks. We're in Miley andSelena territory. And they it does bring you back to those like Selena devuzee videos like that'soh and you know what looking back on that. Miley Cyrus was fucked up making those videos juststraight up making fun of Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez.Like blatantly, Miley and Mandy were making fun of just mimicking them.
30:06And like, now you look back at the dumb.I'm obviously chuckling.I'm like, ah, the drama was so good.But like, at the time, it was like, that's ruthless.Like, I understand now why.Like, Miley became like the bad girl of Disney.She just, oh, man.I got chills just thinking about Miley and Selena over Nick Jonas.
30:25Like over Joshua Bass.Bassett is Nick Jonas now?Like, what is happening?I mean, Josh and Abbasid is no Nick Jonas.But at the time, like, Nick was kind of like this, you know, the little cute boy with the curlyhair.And Josh kind of has those vibes too.So.
30:44And then you got Miley, who's like Sabrina Carpenter and you got Selena who's likeOlivia Rodriguez or I guess it would be opposite because Nick left Miley for Slea Gomez.Yeah.But talking to blonde brunette aspect of.of it. Yeah. Yeah. And Olivia and Sabrina are not merely as famous as Selena and Miley Cyrus.So yeah. It's it's a lesser version of that, but we still very much enjoy it.Yeah. I saw I saw one tweet of of Zach Efron, Vanessa Hutchins and Ashley Tisdale, like posingtogether at the premiere and was like life imitating, life imitating art. Like I'm like, oh my God,
31:20I can't believe that it's like, oh, this love triangle situation. Like,I guess I don't really know too much about the Zach Ephron, Ashley Tisdale thing.Like, I know that it existed.I'm looking at now.And I just always forget.I know there's the, like, it definitely was a thing that happened.Every time.They are, they are such good friends now that I think it's like whatever.
31:44Like, I think that they, you know, or in the past, you know, they were, they were very close.But having that like Vanessa, Olivia, Josh, Zach, Sabrina, Ash, Ash, Ash,comparison was another one that was kind of blowing, blowing my mind a little bit. And, you know,Ashley and Vanessa are best friends. So maybe Olivia and Sabrina can work it out and we can all bebetter together as friends because they don't, they don't need to be fighting over Josh. They don'tneed to be fighting over Josh. But I just, I want so much of the timeline cleared up. I'm still soconfused timeline wise of like, when Josh,was with Olivia, when did Sabrina come into the mix?
32:32What I get the feeling is, I feel like, I feel like maybe Olivia and Joshua neverreally dated because Joshua, because Olivia was 17.And so that would be considered illegal because Joshua was older.It's confusing.because if you think about it,it feels like it was more of likeyour best friend situation.It feels like it was like
33:06almost like we're in lovebut we're not quite datingand everybody knows we're in loveand it's a will-day-wain-situation.Yeah.And then maybe Joshua kind oflet her onand then went to Sabrina Carpenter
33:20and then never really dated Olivia.Yep.So it's very confusing as to what happened.but I wish that Sabrina Carpenter did not get tracked into this.And I don't think anybody should also blame Olivia for,because it's a song, you're going to have to write some lyrics sometimes that imitate real life.So I feel like when everyone freaked out, it's like, it's about Sabrina Carpenter.Like, okay, it's about Sabrina Carpenter.
33:48Cool.Sounds good.It's about Sabrina Carpenter.Not Sabrina Carpenter's fault at all.Joshua likes Sabrina Carpenter.That's allowed to happen.You're allowed to not like somebody.and like somebody again. Cool. But these kids take it. Yeah. And they're like,
34:03down with Sabrina Carpenter. It's like, what did she do? She was just pretty and cool and nice.And he ended up like it. She just dated a boy. Right. Like a boy that had a past or had girls in hispast and definitely not Sabrina's fault. But I can also see Sabrina being super pissed offabout being brought into it or included in it because so many of the fans talked about howIn driver's license, when Olivia had originally posted some lyrics from it that it said,Brunette in the song and not blonde, and she changed it to blonde.So if you're Sabrina, maybe you're like, oh, like, you really had to put blonde soeverybody knows that it's me now.
34:43Like, you can have just left it more mysterious.Like, so I feel like Sabrina took that as more of a direct hit, obviously, which madeher retaliate in skin.It just felt like a little bit of a heavy retaliate.retaliation for an older girl.And yes, their age difference isn't that crazy,but like 17 and 21 is a big difference.And I would think maybe Sabrina knows how Olivia was feeling in that moment.
35:17But also at the end of the day, Sabrina could be like so into Josh and just hearhere's everything that Josh says and only here'sopinion on things.And that could have tainted her opinion on Olivia.So the triangle wraps around many,many times.Like there's so many different,different perspectives on this.
35:47The drama continued more,more than we thought it was going to.And now,I guess we just wait and see what happenswith them if maybe Olivia has even more music to put out or has more things to say they it's alsofunny that the song that Josh and Sabrina are coming out with on his EP is called we both knowlike what's that supposed to mean I don't know what I think I may be out on Joshua Bassettout of all that all of them I think I love Sabrina and Olivia and Joshua seems like a little
36:26fuck boy. It seems like we gotwe got tricks because when hecame on the show he was nice and he was so cute.He was so sweet.Maybe that's actually the charm that these girls are falling for.I don't know. But I also feel like he's a little bit of an F boy.Yeah, I don't I don't know. It's he obviously has ahas a charm. We saw it happen and these girls
36:50really were were into him. But I do agree with youthat I think that there was some kind of situation where he may have led Olivia on in some way or,you know, because she was 17, it was like, okay, publicly this can't happen, you know, so maybe we wait,but I'll wait and we'll be so great together, Yadi, the whole thing, like where he was always therefor her. And then, you know, he released that song. Anyone else, they think that that was maybe aboutabout Olivia.You know, Olivia, obviously, I guess you didn't mean what you wrote in that song about me.And in anyone else, like Josh said that he wrote the song about a friend that he was really close with that he realized he was actually falling for who he shouldn't have been falling for.
37:36So it all kind of adds up that it maybe it reached to the point where like the buildup was so great.And it was like, it's going to happen.It's going to happen. It's going to happen.And then it didn't happen.And he ended up with Sabrina.You know?So that's just our.That's just our opinion.
37:51We have zero facts to back up these,these ideas.But Olivia has had so much success with this songand we're still blasted driver's license.Oh, I wanted to say this is, I forgot.This is what just reminded me.Did you listen to Jaden Hostler's version of driver's license?No.
38:18listen to itI don't fuck with Jay and HosslerOkay okayYesbut I'm now on the team of likeThis kid is kind of talentedHe's got some actual skillHe took driver's license
38:35It made it like a pop punk songAnd it's fantasticI'll give it a listenIt's like really goodI'll probably like itI actually recommendLike you'll listen to it and be like oh shitYeah I like it
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40:23require a permit for use, and Taser products cannot be purchased for personal use in Hawaii orRhode Island. Once again, go to Taser.com and use promo code Barstool for 15% off.A lot of couple talk on this week's podcast, but that's okay. We love new couples. We love couplesthat break up. We love it all. This week, Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian are sparking new datingrumors. This is very exciting. I, and look, I think I, I've seen a lot of rumors about these two,but I've always been adamant that they were friends. Like, I've had people ask me like,oh my God, is Travis Barker dating Corny Kardashian? And I've always been like, uh, not that.Friend, friend, friend, let's take a pause. Why are you talking like Corny's your friend?
41:15No, no, no. I have been asking me or Travis Barker and Corny Kardashian's. I have one friend come to me asa person not connected to them, but as a person who spends too much time in the pop culture world,be like, okay, if somebody would know.But the way I said that, yes, I believe me, I came out of my mouth and I heard myself.Like, I heard what I said.Certainly not what I meant.But basically, like, Travis Barker and the Kardashians have been family friends for a while.He, they live in the same neighborhood.
41:54He's been at a bunch of family things with them.Like they've been on trips, social media posts together and things like that.And I believe it like the end of 2019, Travis had done an interview where he was askedabout them and said that, oh, you know, he loves them as their friends.They're so close.They're great, you know, they're great people, whatever.But basically being like, I'm friends with all of them.Now it does seem like Courtney and Travis are maybe more than friends,
42:21A lot of people have been noticing their social media activity in like the last month,a lot of comments on each other's posts, a lot of kind of little flirty banter back and forth.And then over the weekend, Dumois did post saying that, you know, a source who knows Travis,like asking someone who knows Travis if they're dating.Courtney, they said that they are dating.another submission said a friend of mine catered a small dinner party at Travis Barker's house a couple of weeks ago.Travis was there with Courtney.This is also an unbelievable dinner party.
42:58Travis was there with Courtney plus MGK with Megan Fox and Avrilavine with Maud's son.What?Yeah.Yeah.And there was a few more posts being like, oh, I can confirm that they are dating or I've asked blank who knows Travis and they are dating.So I don't know. It seems like they're in the same place.They did post from Palm Springs.It looks like Travis is with them at the Kardashian Palm Spring location right now with Courtney.
43:27So unexpected, but welcomed.I'm into it.I feel like we've been hearing rumors about Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian for years now.Obviously, I think that they were friends.But maybe they're both at that place in their life where they're like, hey, let's try it out of something more than friends.So I am definitely into it, especially if we keep getting MGK and Megan Fox double dates with Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian.Avrilavina and Maud's son I could do without, but I still enjoy them.Is that, is that something that is happening in the world?
44:04I can't say I ever look at Averlovin's or Maud Sun's social, so I wouldn't know.I feel like that would be.Oh, my God, it is.She's all over.Wow, got to say,haven't visitedMaud Sun's Instagram and quite some timesince all the Bell Thor and shit
44:21it's Averlevene's all over.Hey, good for Maud's sonfor Lending, Avivine.Yeah, I guess they just had a songcome out together.Yeah, last weekor a couple, oh, no, at the beginning of the year,Flames featuring Aver Levine out now.
44:41So I guess he had a bunch of songshad a song with Aver Levine come out.And so he posted a ton of a ton of promo for the song.She's in the music video as well.So I don't know.Maybe there's something more going on there between them.Huh.Okay.
45:04That's a wild combination.I mean, it's not, but it still is.I am also into Avalovine and Maud Sun.I am not against any of these couples.I love the triple date action.Keep it coming.Maybe let's get some paparazzi shots going.And let's call it a day.
45:21Yeah.Yeah.And Travis and Courtney seems like a opposite to track kind of situation.But I also feel like it really works.I feel like they could really vibe.And Travis could not.make Courtney cool because that sounds like a little harsh but also like I don't know like maybe Courtneylike have Courtney loosen up a little bit sometimes you're making a face like you don't know
46:00what I'm talking about I'm true I think I know what you're saying Courtney seems very highstrong I know like she seems yes very high strong high maintenance but I also. I alsofeel like she like gets a little wild like I do think there's a side of cornyKardashian that she gets a little wild which is why she's with Travis Parker like I don'tthink she ends up with Travis Barker if she doesn't even have a little bit of that so yes she isuptight and high strong but how uptight and high strong is she really we don't know I knowshe's uptight and high strong about food and what these are kids and that's yeah yeahfor me but like all things all things considered like partying wise i feel like she's probably fun yeah they
46:57i'm sure they have a great time and i do love that they have been friends for a long time like they haveum been they have that foundation already where they have friends um they spend a lot of time liketheir families have spent a lot of a lot of time together uh i saw that you know e news had posteda picture of the two of them being like there's rumors that they'redating and Travis Barker's daughter liked the Instagram. So it does seem like this is for forsure thing. And definitely like I said, definitely definitely, definitely into it. It's a different vibefor Courtney. You know, we haven't really seen her. I feel like it's been, you know, obviously,always Scott, Scott's name's always attached. But Eunice, like there hasn't really been another guy that
47:49she's been with that has been like exciting.Like Eunice was annoying.His name was Eunice.No, I feel like no one really liked Courtney and Eunice together from the outside standpoint.Courtney and Travis Barker, pretty epic.Kristen Cavaleri and Jay Cutler blew up the internet this weekend.Everybody was freaking out after the two of them posted joint matching Instagrams, the same photo.the two of them together
49:00Kristen kind of has like this badasslike don't fuck with me post kind of going onand the caption that they both postedthe same caption sayingthe world is full of users10 years can't break thatvery intensepeople were very confused
49:18where they back together what was going onit does seem like they're not back togetherthis seems like it's actuallya direct responseto Madison from Southern Charm going on Instagram liveand talking about Jay.I don't, I didn't watch the Instagram live.I've just been seeing tidbits of what she had said on social media,
49:43but it seemed like she was talking about Jay a lot or alluding to Jay a lot.And then shit just blew up.Like I think this was a direct response to that.And Madison and Austin and all the drama that Kristen and Jay have been pulledto recently, which is also like, you know, not totally,Kristen and Jay had their own involvement in all of that,where it seemed like they were going along with all the shit that was,all the drama that was going on.
50:12So I don't know, but it definitely blew up very, very interesting.I don't think that Kristen and Jay are back together,and I didn't think that when they posted the photo.I think it was more so, you know,there's been a lot of talk about them not getting along,and you see it in social media,then I'm just not getting along.And Kristen posting with all these guys
50:33and Jay Culler doing the same thing,like going back and forth at each other.So I feel like there's been a little bit of animosityon social media.So then it seemed like they were almost being like,hey, guys, we're fine, we're going to co-parent,this, that, the other thing,like we're not going to be back together.
50:49That's what I took that as.But now hearing all of this about Madison from Southern Charm,I now think that Southern Charm is single-handedlytrying to take down Kristen Cavalry and Jay Cutler.Like we had, who was it, Austin or Shep who was with Kristen?Austin.Austin with Kristen.And now we have Madison and Jay.
51:19And I'm wondering if Jay and Kristen are just going to join Southern Charm.Because it seems like Southern Charm.is coming in between them in some way,or maybe not actually,because of their posts.They're saying, hey, you guys aren't getting between us.But it does seem like Southern Charm is like involved in their relationship.Yeah.
51:40So look,it does seem,I think this all like escalated more than they thought it would, right?It does,it did seem like there were some pettiness.You know that,you know that there was the Austin,Austin and,
51:55um,Kristen rumors and whatever.They're hanging out.They're with Austin and Craig are hanging out with Kristen and Justin Anderson andMadison is commenting on Instagrams.And then Jay is hanging out with Shannon and posting it, which by the way, he deletedthat photo from his Instagram.So it does seem like they were into the pettiness a little bit.
52:22Like it felt petty.Like they were making these petty news moves.And Jay Cutler is petty.Like a Jay Cutler is so petty.And it did seem like they were going back and forth,one, kind of one up in each other.We know, we saw the Instagram live with Justin,and we're never ever getting back together
52:42and making fun of Madison.And then Madison being involved with Jay.And then I guess, like I said,this Instagram live that Madison did,that blew up, clearly Kristen and Jay were,upset about the Instagram live.I'm guessing that that Instagram live was the time where they like got together andwe were like, okay, this, this Southern Charm shit that we're doing to each other,
53:09we got to stop because now it's getting to be too much.Let's, you know, United Front.Here we are.Let's call out the users.It does kind of seem like it was maybe a direct hit at Madison.I'm not sure.So Justin Anderson, Kristen's best friend, you know, hairstyles, he,put he posted a TikTok and someone commented everyone saying it's Madison but could be
53:31Austin also thinking like who they were talking about you know users or whatnot and he respondedsaying if everyone stops saying Madison's name she'll stop making stuff up for attention she'screated all this nonsense it's cheap Madison who posted a bikini photo captioned unbotheredlocation none your business went on heron her stories Sunday morning and post a video was like, hey, I guess I got to release the receipts.Post screenshots of her text with Jay Cutler, one being like them planning when they were going to hang out.She says, what were you coming here for?Because he didn't tell me anything.
54:13He said to hang out with you.She said, well, you've got to ask me.He said, ha, ha, I was going to ask you today.And she goes, ask me or tell me you already booked it.And then he goes, do you want to hang out next weekend?and then another's text.Okay, don't stress about it.I bought the flight yesterday because it was the last direct one.
54:28If it doesn't work out,it can change it to some other time.And then another text, perfect.This is interesting to me because it just seems like she deleted her responses.Like she posted screenshots.And then at the end, there's three consecutive texts from Jaythat seem like responses to something Madison said,but the responses are gone.
54:46So it's like, did Madison just delete what she had sent back?Kind of seems like maybe she did.And then this one,seems like it was maybe after the IG live or after the drama,things getting a little too petty.He said,it was insinuated and my name was also brought into it,which I didn't appreciate.
55:06So I'm thinking maybe he was talking about the Instagram liveor something else or just Madison talking about Jay in general.She said, Jay, I've done nothing but respect you in your privacy.I respect you and I respect you and I would never say anything to jeopardize youand your family.He said,didn't seem like that was the case.Maybe it was accidental.
55:21I don't know.No one wants this mess.I appreciate you saying that.I think we can all respect each other moving forward at the very least.And then she says, I'm disgusted by this whole situation.You reached out to me.Your intentions may have not been pure, but that might be you projecting.I've never said anything about Kristen nor would I.
55:39I came into this honestly with good intentions.I want no part of being involved in a payback or a drama,but you initiated and pursued.If you weren't interested in something real, you shouldn't have blank with me.Now, she wrote a caption over that word.word where it said i kept my mouth shut until i get called the liar is what she wrote on thescreenshot but it does kind of look like an s and an l in the beginning of the word so i'm thinkingshe said if you weren't interested in something really shouldn't have slept with me i'm i'm
56:10thinking that's i'm thinking that's where she went with that so she posted a selfie yeah she posteda selfie of the two of them together and wrote too bad it didn't work out there's so many sides of thisbecause I totally believe Madison when she says that Jay got involved and pursued herbecause I think Jay was coming from like this petty boy standpoint of like I'm going to hangout with Madison.It's going to piss off.It's going to piss people off or like Kristen's doing this shit.I'm going to do this.
56:37See what happens.And then it all just escalated too quickly.And now they're trying to like blame it all on Madison.And she's like, well, fuck that.I'm not taking all the blame for this.At the same time, Madison definitely.I feel like enjoying the spotlightbecause I don't think anybody's been talking about Madison
56:55for Southern Charm as much as they were this weekend.Yeah, I actually believe Madisonbecause I don't know why she would randomly make all of this up about Jay.I think that Jay probably did reach out to her.I think that Jay probably did have sex with her.I don't see why he wouldn't.You know what I mean?Like him and Kristen are not together.
57:15So if he had reached out to her,then I guess.why maybe he did have sex with herand then maybe regretted it in some waybecause he realized how petty it wasor whatever it may be or maybeeven if he didn't have sex with her,he reached out to her because he saw what Kristen was doing
57:33and was coming from a petty place, of course.So I believe Madison,but now it seems like Jay and Kristenare kind of just over the Southern Charm people,even if Madison's, like what,what is even Madison gaining from putting all of this out there?Like, they're not together.So it's not like Jay Culler is cheating on Kristen Cavalieri with Madison from Southern Charm.
58:00No.Chris and Cavalry was dating Jeff Dye. Who knows if that's true anymore? People are saying they may have broken up.People are saying they're still together. He was talking about loving her at his show.Who knows what's going on with that? But what is Madison even gaining from this besides trying to be in the spotlight by being like, Jay Culler fucked me over?So I think it's a stupid situation.Like I don't even think it's as messy as people want it to bebecause it's not like anybody did anything wrong.Nobody's really doing anything wrong.
58:31Madison kind of by like blowing up Jay Cutler's spotand like putting the text out there.Yeah.But like and Jay was petty.Yeah, we know that.But nobody really did anything really wrong.this is some high school drama, which is why it's juicy, because it's like,we're sending receipts out, people who aren't dating, who people think are dating,
58:57are saying shit.It's like, and there's so many comments behind people's backs.Like, we've talked about Justin Anderson before.And, like, Justin Anderson loves dipping his toes in the drama.Like, I don't know how Kristen deals with some of the shit he does because it's like,sometimes it's like, hey, man, zip it.You're not helping.You're making this worse.
59:15Like, sometimes when Justin comments and all this shit,It's like, all right, Justin, you're stirring the pot as much as everyone else.And he always is kind of like preaching that they're the good guys and like be nice to people.And it's like, okay, you're just churning away.Like every time you comment or say shit back to people, it just gives them,it just gives them more ammo to work with.But yeah, it does.To me, it seems like it was all fun in games at the beginning, a little back and forth.
59:43Let's hang out the Southern Charm people and see what happens.and then Madisonit seems like Madison may havelost it a little bitI don't know all the details about the Instagram livebecause like I said neither of us saw itbut from what people are sayingshe really like dragged Jay into it
01:00:03where it was like she made it seem likemaybe she was with Jay that Jay was therelike itit's I think the Instagram livewas the last straw where it was like okaywe're now we've been involved too long i'm not jay's probably like whoa i'm i'm not into this girl likelike what's happening christian's probably like what the fuck are you doing so they're like all rightlet's fucking stand against these people post these pictures and madison gets pissed because all of
01:00:32a sudden she's a user now it's like hey fuck the users it's like whoa what what using you you youcontacted me like how am i using you you used me first they're just a bunch of users it's alot of pettiness it's not it's not even like like i said it's not like yes maybe madison shouldn'thave brought jay into it right like why do that why create a messy situation but is anybodyreally wrong i don't know no i don't think so i don't think so either it it was just a juicymoment where everyone felt like airing out their shit like christin and jay if they didn't post thatphoto together, no one would be, no one would have cared. Like I would have never even heard,I don't think I would have even heard about Madison's Instagram story. I mean, Instagram live,
01:01:23talking about Jay, if Jay and Kristen didn't send out like a joint statement about it. So they alsobrought all that attention to themselves instead of ignoring it. So now we're, then now everyone'sdigging even more being like, well, shit, what happened? Like now everyone's digging into the dramaeven more to try and find more details about it because of the picture that they posted in thefirst place. So basically it's all Kristen and Jay's fault.Oh, basically everybody loves the drama. They can, Kristen and Jay can try and blame it allin the Southern Charm people. But at the beginning, I think Kristen and Jay were just as into itas they were. And then they decided that they would try to be like the moral high ground and
01:02:04end it. All right. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you guys for listening.We love you. We hope you had a fantastic weekend. And we hope you have a fabulous week. And we'll talk to you on Wednesday for our Bachelor recap. Love you guys. Bye.
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