Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Clippers beat Nuggets, Pistons beat Knicks on the road + NBA Award finalists announced!

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Clippers beating Nuggets on the road, the Pistons bounce back to win game 2 on the road against the Knicks & NBA award finalists are announced!05:42 - Clippers beat Nuggets20:00 - Pistons snap losing streak36:52 - Nico Harrison: idk Luka was important to the fan base56:40 - JJ Reddick: Best Practice1:02:30 - NBA Player Awards Announced(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your favorite uncle. My co-host is your favorite number 85, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, the all-pro. That's Chad Ocho, Cinco, Johnson. Also our contributor for all things basketball and the playoffs is y'all know him, the Arkansas native. Now, in Phoenix, you know him a little bit from Phoenix, but you really know him as a Hulk and a net. Here he is, Iso Joe, Joe Johnson.

Guys, let's get right into this ball game. Got a lot to talk about tonight. The Clippers win 105 to 102. As I said, thanks to Kawhi Leonard and a big, big three from Norman Powell who struggled all night long with his shot, but he found it when he needed to find it. Yes, Jokic had a triple double, but he did not play well.

Seven turnovers, four missed free throws, and I think that was the difference in the ball game, Joe, that all those free throws, they make one, miss one, make one, miss one, it came back to bite him. What did you like about what you saw from the Clippers? After a tough loss on Saturday, they come back and get a tough win on Monday. Well, you knew Team Blue was gonna have those guys ready.

They was gonna regroup. I didn't think they played Well, you knew Team Blue was going to have those guys ready. They was going to regroup. I didn't think they played bad, you know, from game one. I thought they played good. You know, probably down to the end. But man, they can say what they want to say about Kawhi Ojo. That boy out there doing the playoffs, he make it happen, man. He does. Hey, the mid-range assassin,

analytics trying to take the middie out the game. Hey, man, they may get to his spot every time, raising up shoot, and it's Cash. He look good tonight. For me, I like how his body look. He don't look like he out of shape. He looks like a guy who was in elite shape, and he's ready to go. He gave him everything they was looking for tonight, man.

You didn't, you didn't need James to be special tonight. He was solid throughout the whole game. Uh, I liked Zuback competing against, uh, uh, big Yoke. Yoke. That's a great matchup, man. That's a great matchup, but all in all, the Clippers did what they wanted. Hey, they came down there to get one. Got one.

And they was able to do that in game too, man. They look good. Yeah. When you look at Kawhi, I think the thing is that Zubos makes Yokich works on the other end. He had another double-double, 16 and 12. You can live with that. As you said, James Harden didn't need to be spectacular tonight.

But it was Kawhi. And I thought it was very interesting, Joe. Kawhi had it going. But Ty Lui gave him a six-minute break in the third quarter, knowing this game's gonna be close. I needed him to close it out. I needed him for the entirety. I'm not bringing him off the court. And you saw him at the end of the game, slumped over. He was dog-tired because he played 39 minutes.

And they needed all 39 minutes from him. But I thought T Lue stole some time. And when the Nuggets couldn't get any separation with Kawhi off the floor, you knew, okay, this game's gonna come down to the end. Michael Porter Jr. played extremely well. He had six offensive rebounds. They needed a call or action, and he answered that call.

But that turnover after he got that rebound where he threw it away and led to a Norman Power three, that was really the difference in the ball game. Ocho, what'd you like about what you saw tonight? Listen, Ty Lue had them boys ready to play, Unc. He had them ready to play Kawhi. I'm not sure what Kawhi did, what his routine was before this game.

I'm not sure what he ate. I don't know how he stretched, but whatever he did before this game today, he need to repeat it. Every game from this point on. The Kawhi I saw I saw tonight. Unki was special. We talked about his injuries We talked about him not playing games and missing games, but I don't know who that was a night I've we've seen it before but I've never seen it to this magnitude. I've never seen him this this efficient Like this tonight, obviously you had no more power who contributed coming off the bench

Obviously, you had Norman Powell who contributed coming off the bench. James Harden did what James Harden does. Obviously, he didn't need to be special like you guys mentioned earlier. I think one of the main factors and why the Clippers were able to win this game is I think about not what the Clippers did, but what the Nuggets did in turning the ball over 20 damn times. As opposed to the Clippers only turning it over 11. Obviously, Joker having a triple-double, he didn't play well, he missed some shots late in the game, down the stretch, from the free-through line,

which also contributed to them losing tonight. But the Clippers did well, Ty Lue did what he needed to do from a coaching standpoint, in making sure they were prepared to come out and get in the steer and steal a win. Because when you look at it, Joe, as Ocho mentioned, 20 turnovers, it was just the opposite. What did the Clippers do that cost them the game?

Turn the ball over on Saturday. Now the Nuggets repaid the favor. Count it like in the championship game. We saw Houston force Duke to turn it over. And then what did they do? They turn around against Florida in the national championship game. They turned it over.

The Nuggets crushed them plus 18 in rebound margin plus eight officer rebound margin But when you hit plus nine in the turnover and you plus you minus six you shot ten more free throws But you missed eight of them You turn over miss missed free throws, there's your ball game right there. Joe, if you're the Nuggets, if you're Dave Adelman, what are you telling your team?

Man, we gotta continue to fight. We gotta go to LA and try to get us one. You know, we gotta dig down deep and find something within us, man. I don't think they guys played terrible. I thought they played pretty good, considering the big guns, the joker, Gordon Porter. You know, I thought they played solid and I thought Murray played good enough for them to win, honestly. Yeah, they got to keep working, you know, get back to the drawing board and look forward to game three.

But what I will say is when you look at the Clippers, I think when they get home, they'll be a lot better than them. Other guys around them will play a lot better as role players normally play better at home, normally play better at home. So, uh, this is going to be a long series for the Nuggets, man. They are, they already lost home court advantage. You got to steal one, dude. So now it's on LA to take care of home court.

Go ahead, Ocho. I would get ready to say, obviously, you know in games like this, obviously, the playoffs atmosphere is completely different. You know much more about the playoff experience than I do, but I know that feeling and what it's like to be there, because on video games, sometimes, you know, everything gets tight and it gets very difficult when it comes to being in the playoffs so I think about when it comes at this time not only for the Nuggets but for the Clippers as well

you got to minimize mistakes you got to minimize errors and you got to be efficient and you got to be consistent the best way you can people coming off the bench the role players they have to be on point they got to they got to be final all cylinders for each team to have a chance to win in advance to the next round. And that's really it. I ain't really got no bit of talk about anything. Playoffs, being that I ain't really been in them as opposed to you two. But I know what it feel like because I just explain why. You didn't play a lot of accounts in your career, Ochoa?

Hey man, don't do that. Lady Sensenback. Ochoa, come on. Don't act like that. Don't do me like that. That's that's that's that's true. Hey, see, that's what that's why I live. That's why I live with. I don't know what it's like to be in the playoffs, but I've done it on video games and even I get nervous and I get tight, you know, so that's that's the only experience I got when it comes

to playoffs. Joe, you and Uncle Ben, you ought to have done that. Aaron Gordon, Mr. Wide Open Dog. How do you know that? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And I get tight, you know? So that's the only experience I got when it comes to playoffs. You and Unk, them Bennett, y'all done that. Aaron Gore missed a wide open dunk. Ah.

You hit the back of the rim, Unk. Oh, Joe, you can't miss that. Yeah, you can't miss that, bro. Hey, I got a question. Hey, Joe, I got a question. For something like that that happens when you miss a dunk, obviously you think it's going in. Hey, Unk, do you think it's the same as a ball hitting you right in the hands and you drop it because you take your eyes off the ball? You think you take his eye off the rim?

He tried to dunk it so hard and it hit the back of the rim. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it had nothing to do with hand-eye. No. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just because you see what you see what he did. I mean, he's on mine. Yeah, I thought he would two-handed, Joe. Because that's normally how he dunks the ball, especially in close like that. He normally makes sure he finishes. But I was surprised that he went up with one hand. And you can see things like that happening.

Misses a dunk. Michael Porter Jr. gets the defensive rebound and throws it away, which leads into a walk-in three by Norman Powell because Christian Brown was caught in between. Do I go over here or do I stay? He, you know, Powell fakes it and then he pulls up. Boom.

Uh, in situations like that, that's normally what happens. You pay an ultimate price with turnover. You turn the ball over in football, you pay double in the playoffs. You turn it on the basketball, the same thing. You commit an error in baseball in the playoffs. It normally, you in the playoffs. You turn it on the basketball, the same thing. You commit an error in baseball in the playoffs. It normally. You extend the ending. You extended, you extend things.

So, uh, that's a tough way to lose for the Nuggets, but you got to give the Clippers credit after a very difficult loss on Saturday to come in and play as well as they did tonight and to steal home court now, somehow the Nuggets is going to have to find a way to steal home court. Now somehow the Nuggets gonna have to find a way to steal home court back because I don't believe if, if, if, uh... If Clippers win, you know, the Clippers win their two games, I don't see how they, I don't see how they win, you know, three in a row. I don't, I don't see that.

You see that, Joe? You don't see that, you don't think the Clippers can win three in a row? No, I don't. This is a different team than the row? No, I don't. This is a different team than the Bubble. Yes, I know they did in the Bubble, but this is a different team.

They didn't have a James Harden. Kawhi had some quiet times in the fourth quarter with some sixes and some twos. And that guy that I see now, he ain't gonna have no games like that. Yeah, yeah. Man, listen, games like that. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I love, man, listen. I like what I've seen from the Clippers.

Scrappy, got a bunch of life-size guys. Play multiple positions and cause a lot of havoc. And penetrating, kicking out for three and just scrambling. You know, it's just back, it's backyard basketball. Man, it's playoff basketball at its finest. Look, the Clippers know whatever's gonna run, the Denver know what the Clippers gonna run. Y'all can't show us nothing new under the sun.

We know what y'all ready. Now it's your will versus my will. And that's what's so special about the playoffs, man. It's like, who wants it the most? And right now, man, the Clippers got a hold of it. Yeah. Hey, Young. Yeah.

Hey, did you just say you don't think Kawhi can have another game like this? No, no, no. I said, I don't think if the Nuggets go down 3-1, I don't think they can come back like they did in the bubble because I don't believe Kawhi will play as poorly as he did in the fourth quarter in the bubble. He's playing extremely well right now. As Joe said earlier, he's locked in. Yeah. Now, you let him get that mid-range going early. Now you're at his mercy because if he backs out past that three-point line and he sees a couple of those go in, what you do? You hug up on him, he can go by you. Or you beg him to go by you, and then he stops on a dime,

and he just raises up over you. He had it going tonight because he made some very difficult shots over two defenders. Give him his dude, give him his credit. He played well tonight. He was one of the main reasons why they won. Zubots is doing what Zubots does. Zub, just give us 16 and 12. Give us your average. Make it work on the offense, on the defensive end.

I was surprised. I don't think Yokel was aggressive enough. You got Ben Simmons on you. And you out there bull-jabbing around the three-point line. Nah, that ain't what you need to be, bro. Take his ass down to the paint, get up on eight. Go to the pick and roll or Murray. They may come, hey, clear out of the side.

Go, hey, get away. And let me go to work on Ben Simmons. Ain't no way you supposed to be out of the top of the key with Ben Simmons on you if you're Nicola Jokic. He was, they had Jokic huffing and puffing out there. Man, they do what they work early on. They catch them at the three point line, body banging them all the way to the paint.

So by the time we get to the paint, he a little tired and exhausted. Yeah. You know, it's hard for him to kind of get into his, get into his mojo like he normally would because it's a different setting. We're in the playoffs now. Nothing's easy. They not just gonna let him walk down to that post and think he just going to turn around and shoot jump hooks all night.

Now, we ain't going for that. You're going to have to work today, big fella. Yeah. Yeah. They do it. They're doing a great job. They take it. They let Murray handle the ball. They let Brown handle the ball. Russ handle the ball from some sort. But he's not handling the ball. But you could tell, you know, they're wearing on him. Zubox is banging on him. But like I said, you get a reprieve. Once they take Zubes out of the game, big Zubes, and you got to wear Ben Simmons' light ass out. Because I understand he's 6'10",

but he ain't a big body like Zubox. Yeah, now he's not a big body like Zubox, but look, Yoko's playing a great game. He still had a nice, beastly triple double. Yeah, those seven turnovers don't hurt him though, Joe. Seven turnovers hurt him, but he was four for eight from the three. I like that. It's like whenever he wants to shoot the three balls, like he's very efficient when he shoots it, but he was, he was pretty good, man.

He just need other guys to step up. Maybe, uh, I'll probably say Gordon or Porter. They got to play a little bigger than what they playing right now, especially points wise cuz he yeah Yeah, Porter played good. He just had he had three turnovers Gordon has got to be a little bit more aggressive a little bit more efficient He was five or 13 one of three three, but he was three or three from the three-point line Throw up. Excuse me from the free throw line

But I think this was more had to do or what what the Clippers did do As opposed to what the Nuggets didn't do I think we need to tip our hats off especially to Kawhi Leonard because he was sensational tonight along with Avicii Zubots, but Norman Powell hit the shot heard around the world I didn't get a chance to read please make sure you hit that subscribe button Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your continued support. You showed up here tonight supporting us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Please make sure you check out Chez Balaporte. We do have it in stock. Now, if you cannot find Chez Balaporte

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The Pistons snapped their 15 game playoff losing streak. It was the longest such streak in NFL, NBA history. It's their first playoff win since 2008. Cade Cunningham, we said that he needed to bounce back and play better. He absolutely bounced back and he played sensational. 32 points, 33 points, 12 rebounds. He's the first Piston since Chauncey Billups in 2004

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I've seen him take so many big shots when he was playing for the Lakers. They trusted, and I don't see any reason why they shouldn't trust him. Tobias Harris was great. Again, he played 43 minutes at 15 points, 13 big rebounds. Cade, 33 and 12, but it was Schroeder off the bench that gave you 20 big points

was the difference in the ball game. And they were able to overcome a sensational game drew to off the bench, they gave you 20 big points, was the difference in the ball game. And they were able to overcome a sensational game by Jalen Brunson who had 37 points, but they didn't get nearly enough from Carl Anthony Towns. He only had 10 points on five of the level shooting. Five trouble was the big reason why, but Mikael Bridges had 19, OG had 10,

Cat had 10, Josh Hart had 10, but it wasn't enough, Jaylen Bronson at 37, but it was the 33 points from Kate Cunningham, uh, 12 points, 13 rebounds from Duran and 15 points from, and 13 rebounds from Tobias Harris and they beat the Knicks on the glass, 48 to 34. I was surprised at how they dominated the glass. You know, considering you got Kat, considering you got Mitchell Robinson, considering you got OG Alan Obey,

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That got damn Kay Cunningham, boy, he's special, boy. Yes. Boy, he's special, boy, he's something nice. Now you remind me of myself in high school. All right, all right, all right. Go ahead. No, John. Go ahead, go ahead.

Hey, Joe, don't do that, don't do that. Don't do that, because before it was Iso Joe, you know they called me an high school rat. They call you. What they call you in high school, bro? Iso Ocho? Actually, I wouldn't Ocho yet. I was Iso Pepe back then.

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, we will get back to this game. But I did some digging, and I found some footage of you in that teammate game. You in teammate, you know? Yeah. You in teammate play, I found some footage on you and their teammate game you and T-Mack. Yeah How a teammate play I seen that footage of you on T-Mack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was garbage. Oh Joe Man I said man what I'm trying to do and you can't make a lady up none of that. Oh No, long time. This is after I had already dropped 20.

I had already dropped 20 on T-Mac Head. That's why you pushed me out of Iowa. I hadn't even frustrated. I told you NBA players only know how to play in a structured environment. Oh. You know, you're running plays and all that. When it comes to getting it off the muscle,

and you got somebody that's athletic in skill with lateral movement and quickness like me, you don't know what to do. That's why I say you can't beat me, bruh What you talk about? I don't care about nobody calling you ISO nothing Just me you right you you you ain't built like Say it with your chair got it You got my voice cracking that's how you know, I'm serious man. I'm a competitor man

I don't care what it is. I'm simple. You I'm telling you what hey what when I face you up like this Now he's you with that jab Left right and then I come back and I had see I Go Man stop playing man. Hey, but let's, but let's get back to the playoffs. Cause that's like, I'm, I'm, I apologize. I ain't mean to get off. Like he kind of triggered me real quick.

Like, like I'm not him. You feel me? Stop playing boy. I am from, I'm boy, I'm from Liberty city, boy. We do everything. You hear me? It don't matter swimming, swimming, track, basketball, football. It don't matter.

Ding dong, shooting pool. Yeah. Yeah. And whatever football, it don't matter. Bing pong, shooting pool. Yeah, yeah, and whatever. It's who and whatever against whoever. Man, what you got here? I apologize, my bad, my bad. Look, look, look, let's get back to the playoffs. All right, back to the playoffs. I want to get you out of my assessment on this.

For some reason, Carl Anthony Towns, he look a little slow out the break, man. Like, he ain't got no energy. It's like, you know, he ain't giving them what they break, man. Like he ain't got no energy. It's like, you know, he ain't giving them what they need. You know they bench ain't gonna give them that cause Timberdoll ain't gonna play them enough. No.

You need Kat. Kat gotta have, he gotta be anywhere from about 20, 25 a night, man. 11 shot attempt, that ain't gonna get it for the next a bit. Nope. Not playing against these dogs in Detroit. I told you, you on Ocho, you said,

who I like in the playoffs this year. And I told you, okay, Cunningham, he got it. He the total package. He showed it right. He's very poise and patient on offense, creating for himself. He didn't have a lot of, since tonight, they made him score.

He scored the ball. He had 12 rebounds. He was huge for himself. He didn't have a lot of system night. They made him score. He scored the ball He had 13 he had 12 rebounds. He was huge for them They had that look they were the one game one as well as game two But they had that low and game one at 21 overrun and niggas made yep house the business again Now they had another load of night About four four and a half minutes where they couldn't score and then they end up, you know, end up closing out the game. But Detroit for real, they letting y'all know they for real. Now what I don't expect, I don't expect Tim Hardaway to go 0 for 8 no more.

I think he's going to play great at home, him and Beasley. They going to shoot the ball well and they going to be the others who's going to help them, you know, probably advance in this series, especially at home anyway. Well, I don't, I don't get Tills. Uh, campaign gave you 14 big points. He gave you 11 in the fourth and nine in that nine-o run and you play in four minutes.

What's that about? It needs to be reversed. McHale Bridges need 11 shots. Cat needs 18. Well, that's on Cat. Cat needs to demand the ball and become more aggressive once he gets the ball. But you know, Cat has that propensity to sometimes drift through the game. Bro, did you forget you seven foot tall?

Did you forget that you were the number one overall pick in the draft? Do you, did you forget that you are an all star many times? Sometimes I think Cat forget just how good he can be. Kat, do you, do you realize that you once scored 16 a game? Kat you special, but sometimes I think he forgets man. I'm cat. I'm him bad. Look here.

All I know is father basketball player with my mentality. I'm self foot tall. I'm putting out, hey, I'm Shaq. Shaq never forgot he was big. Jack always played big. Shaq never played small. That's what I like about Shaq. He like, man, I'm seven one three twenty five. He like, man, I'm 7'1", 3'25". Damn it, I'm gonna play 7'1", 3'25". I'm gonna blow up the child shop. That's an it factor. That comes from within.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There are a lot of people. Hey, you talk about the young bull from the Lakers, right? How tall you say he is? Oh, you talking about Jackson Hayes? No, not the other one. You don't like. Alex Lynn?

Yeah, man. Man. Yeah, man. Man. See, that's you. That it factor, that mentality. I don't want to say mama mentality, but just that mean spirit when it comes to being out there and understand I'm seven feet tall and I'm from the dog, whoever you put in front of me.

Yes. You finna get this work. Does Kat have that it factor? Think about the mentality and the way John Maron plays or the way Anthony Edwards plays. Imagine if Cat had that mentality or that kind of dog in him. What you think he would be? But you know what Cat's problem is, Jordan? I'm gonna let you go. Cat's problem? Cat want to be the best shooting big man. Cat don't like the bangs. He's already said it.

And that's what got him in trouble last year in the Western Conference Finals. He was selling too much. He was selling for the three. He was selling for the jumper. And they ain't got nobody that can deal with Cat when Cat want to play and becomes aggressive and put his back to the basket.

I get it, you can shoot. But at some point, at some times, the game doesn't call for that. You need to dictate to the, I'm gonna go down the block, give it to me, give it to me, man, let me have that. Go ahead, Joe. Hey, but you gotta give the big fella for Detroit some credit, Durant, too,

because he playing, man. Hey, he's a monster down there, Ocho. You know, he's good, so Kek definitely ain't muscling him. So it's almost like he kinda taking him out of the game to some degree But yeah, I'm like, oh man, I want him selling for jumpers I want him down there in the paint cause of having making them dudes double team so we can create these yes Okay, so then we'll get wide open shots

I do think he's just kind of floating around three point line too much and yeah the Knicks they gotta have at least two guys Explode, you know in that in that starting five in order for them to win because like I say they barely play any guy coming off the bench yeah Hey Joe, hey Joe I mean listen I'm gonna ask this real quick do you think because Kat knows he can't do nothing with young bull down there in the paint that he gonna settle for mid-range and being out there by the three instead of going down and banging because you know you ain't finna post him up and you know you're not going back and down? Nah, I think you know he's probably gonna look at this footage, you know, he's gonna look at the

tape is what I'm saying with you, he's gonna be like okay cool, you know hopefully somebody on that coaching staff tell him, hey look big fella we gotta have you down there on that paint. Yeah, no matter what. Being big, being a huge presence,. Remember when we throw you the ball, it's a bucket foul, or you kick it out, spray out the three, and somebody got a wide open shot. But right now what he's given, yeah, this is gonna be a long series for them, man.

This is a young, scary Detroit team who, you know, had to learn by experience, you know, throughout the playoffs. Like Durant and Cade Cunningham, they had never been in the postseason. So they learned from game one, came back in game two, duplicated pretty much. It ain't performance, but close the deal at the end. And, uh, hey man, Detroit basketball at its finest, baby.

I look at it like this, Joe. I'm a veteran player. I'm a pro bowler. I'm an all-pro. Ain't no young lad doing nothing with me I know too much I understand the moment right he ain't gonna see me not they better double yeah they better come double right cuz if you don't I'm gonna punish him he a cat has to have but look cat is who he at this point but look, Kat is who he, at this point in time, Joe, Kat is who he is.

I like Kat a lot, but Kat needs to be more aggressive. Yo, Kat, we know Kat can shoot the three. We know that. I say I'm putting him in the three point contest. He did it. Yeah. Yeah. I think, hey, look, he just got to assert himself a little more,

especially in the start. You know, look, I love Big Body Bronson. It just seemed like when he get into the paint, he turn into a straight five, man. He go to pivoting. Yeah! I'm like, bro, bro, you six foot tall. How the hell you talking about?

How you gonna put your shoulder in somebody's chest to get separation and shoot a turnaround? They making it work. Look, get your shoulder crated. chest to get separation. And shoot a turnaround. They making it work. Look, give Shrodo credit. He didn't just play great offensively. I thought defensively he was a pass. He was a pass on Buston.

He made him work, picked him up full court, made him go into that Magic Johnson bag down. It's just Shrodo just ain't got no bricks in his back pocket to stop him once he get in that. No, no, no, no. Well, and Sua Thompson, when he got in foul trouble, he got in foul trouble. And so that was good because he's a long rangey guy

that you know, he can play out, he can contest. If he shoots the step back, I can contest it. I'm long and rangey enough, I don't have to worry about you beating me around the edge. None of these other guys possess that. Cause he gonna, like you said, he'll bully a shooter. And shooter is not a bad defender, but he just light in the back pocket.

And Tim Hardaway Jr, the same thing. And so, once and so, and so Thompson, once Thompson got in trouble, you saw, you saw Brunson get super aggressive. Yeah, he did. Super aggressive. He turned it up, he turned it up. Thompson's a bad, he's. He's super aggressive. He turned it up. He turned it up. Thompson's a bad

He's a tough matchup for Breslin cuz he's so much he's so long and athletic All he gotta do is stay disciplined. He's playing great defense The one thing I love about Thompson is he knows his role man. He ain't out there to do nothing He ain't gonna be out there just jacking up no wild shots. I'm out here to hustle defense Calls have it get steals be on the break like he's playing his job to the teeth. Keep your head up, young fella, he going hard out there. Yeah, and that's what, and that's what, look, but the thing is you gotta play smart

because Brunson is cagey. Now he'll pump fake you, and when you jump, he'll jump into you. Yeah. So you, hey, you gotta be on your best behavior when you guarding a guy like Brunson. It, I don't know what it is. Joe, what is it about them left-handed guys that's always crafty?

You see, Amanu was like that. You see, Sherwin of Marcellonus was like that. All these left-handed guys, they be crafty as is. Hey, hey, it seems like they got an advantage from the job. You know, because you're just not really used to playing against lefties. So you got to know your own game plan when you play against a lefty, you know what I mean?

And it just seems like they always got an advantage. I don't know but it's been some crafty lefties Obviously James Harden and big body brunson man. Hey, listen, okay Wait, hey, hey you guard that man. It's a long game, bro I know you're boxing you like the box and all that right? Yeah, you know, I got a nice little foot footwork. Yeah Well, I ain't when the game over you gonna be hurting you hear me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh definitely. Oh definitely Oh Lord have mercy man. Well, Nico Harrison held another press conference today and say he did it again I didn't know Luca was important to the fan base.

I didn't quite know to what level. Joe, what do you think would have happened if the Lakers would have traded Kobe and Kobe didn't ask to be traded? Cleveland trades LeBron, and LeBron doesn't ask to be traded. What do you mean you didn't know? When you go to there and you see all those 77s, doesn't ask to be traded. Dude, what do you mean you didn't know?

Did you, when you go to there, you see all those 77s, who do you think that's from? That one for Tyron Smith, that one for Luca. What the hell are you talking about? You talking about that guy that was a five time first team all NBA selection, an all star rookie of the year. He was an MVP candidate every year. What do you mean you didn't know what he meant to that base? He was homegrown, like a Kobe, like a LeBron.

I mean, for what? If Presby were to trade, so you know what, we're going to trade Shea. What do you think O.K.C. gonna do? Act a fool? Exactly, bro. Exactly bro, come on. Hold on. You don't think you don't think Nego doing this on purpose or somebody's having him do this on purpose? The fact that all this is back to back, I mean are they trying to distract us for something else? No. You know good and goddamn well what he meant to the team. That's it's your job to actually know the importance of certain players, especially

players of that goddamn caliber So come out and say something this asinine and say something as asinine as what you said last week And you probably don't do the same thing This is it's a constant pattern of it going on over and over and over obviously We know you got we know you being nailed to the cross for the decision of the owners. That's your job You got to take that bullet. Okay, we get it. But coming out saying things like this, now come on now. But see, like come on, come on now. Check this out. Patrick Dumas is reportedly frustrated with Nico Hadsall for not warning him how the fan base would react to Luka trade. Luka is the

biggest thing in Dallas. What do you mean? You're owning it. So you see what happens when you buy something and you don't know what you have. You see he bought a team. His mom, my mother-in-law, purchased the team and they have no idea what they have on each other. It's like I buy a store, but I don't know what in the store. So what am I selling? And I say, you know what? I'm going to discontinue my number one selling item.

Why aren't you telling me that was my number one selling item? You bought the damn store you should have known. However, those team sources consistently express belief that Dumont no longer sees Harrison as a figure with irreproachable basketball expertise. Most notably, team and league sources say Dumont had frustration with Harrison not warning him or perhaps even more damningly being unaware of the fandom outrage following the trade.

Those same sources say it's the same influence over Dumont's decision to make Harrison appear last week closed media event, which Harrison did not want to do. You see what I said? The owner, you see what I said, Ocho? Owner makes the decision. Why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you tell me the fans was gonna be upset about me trading the most popular player? Why didn't you tell me that I got rid of the best player

in Dallas Maverick history? I know Dirk Nowitzki won a championship, but Mark Cuban said it. Dirk can't see Luca. You traded it. You're supposed to know that normally when you buy a business, you're supposed to know how to run it, right, Ocho? Right, Joe? Yeah.

Joe, what do you think about this? What's going on? Luca is a global icon. Hey, Nico's a good guy, bro. But I know he got to, you know, he got to take the fall on this one. You know, he made that decision. Look, the owners, you know he got to take the fall on this one you know he made that decision look the owners they ain't gonna take the fall they gonna blame it on Nico yeah that's why I got somebody to take the fall he's got up there publicly and took the fall himself you know

saying that you know he's the one he didn't discuss it with the coaches the things of that sort but man you got to know how much local means of Dallas man everybody knows I mean come on man this is a global icon this ain't just But, man, you gotta know how much Luca means to Dallas, man. Everybody knows. I mean, come on, man. This is a global icon. This ain't just, you know what I mean? Yes!

Yes. Hey, hey, hey, I think they... You let the Chicago, you let Kraft say, you know what? I think we're gonna trade Michael Jordan. Yeah. Well, I didn't know Chicago was that rabid. I didn't know they loved the man that much. Really?

Luka Doncic. He just led you. So you're going to trade the guy that just led you to the NBA finals last year. A guy that was 25 at the time you traded him. And you had no idea that the fans would be upset. Oh Joe, what do you think would happen if the Ravens traded Lamar Jackson? Or Kansas City traded Patrick Mahomes? And the GM said, hey, and the ownership said, GM's like, well, I didn't know Kansas City cared about this man this much.

Well, it's kind of common sense too, right? They should have known. If you're the owners, most of the time, let's say you're not paying attention to the team. Let's say you don't understand the importance of said player and Luka Doncias. But I know you understand the importance of money. I know you understand the importance of your bottom line and what matters at the end of the day. And I know you understand that number 77 is the driving force of revenue coming through. I bet you understand that. So why would you, how would you not know? Let's say if you didn't understand basketball, just say you was only about business and making money at the end of the day.

You don't have to get rid of him. Now you got Nico Collins looking like a fool. Nico Harrison. Fire on the goddamn sword. Matter of fact, to the point, I think they forced him to do it because he's saying such ridiculous stuff about them not knowing that they're using this as a ploy to be able to fire him on the back end. Yeah.

Look. And he take the whole brunt of the issue. Man, listen, I feel bad for Nico in this situation because you got to know better than that, man. You know, I understand, you know, maybe, maybe they know something that we don't know, Uncle Ocho, they around him every day, you know, they come to work every day. Maybe they ain't like some of his habits that he had and they ain't think, no, seriously, they was thinking long-term like, right.

This summer coming up, man, we got to come off by three some, 3.45 to be exact. 3.40. to be exact. 345, I have to keep round. Joe talk to me Joe, what's that bad? What's that bad Joe? Oh Joe. That Luke can be doing what we don't want to invest 345 million and something like that. Will you understand the product you getting long term

on the court? What's that bad Joe? Come on now. We ain't talking about no, you know, no not going to jail, you know Not not not having to worry about anything concerning the nightlife with Luca hookah really Bear It's really it's also being reported that the nuggets aregets are gonna offer Nikola Jokic three years 217 million. So he's not gonna take the, he's not gonna take the uh... Man, you know Jokic is gonna take that three years 217 million from the Nuggets.

And that's the max he can get? Yes. Yeah, yeah. 70 million a year. So they was like, we give Luka this. It was going to be five years, 345. So when his contract up, Luca's going to be 31. He's going to be in line to get four, he's going to get another five year, 450. Maybe even 500 at that point in time,

because this new contract, this new Amazon, ESPN, and I think, who else, NBC, played 77 billion. Would have been. But here's the thing. If I, if I'm Nico Harrison, I tell my owner I'll trade him, but we're going to get a tremendous backlash because Luca is our, is our best player. He's our most important player. He's our most beloved player.

I said, I'll do whatever you ask me to do. I'll do whatever you tell me to do. But I just want you to know what comes along with trading it. Now, hey, you might, the habits that people keep saying about he likes hookah, he's drinking, whatever the case may be, I will trade it at your bequest, at your request, but I just want you to understand

This is gonna be met with huge opposition by the fan base So I want you to think about it for a day or two before I make any calls Because this is not going to go over well He comes back, trade Luca. I'm not giving him $3.45, blah, blah, blah. We're not making enough money to... Are you sure? Once he say, hey, at a certain point in time, when the command to give you that kill switch, you got to go follow through with it, old Joe Joe, you know that., once they say hey, once he a have a target in sight right

And then ain't no turning back that's why I ain't listening that's why I say, uh The mavericks got cheated man because they weren't thinking Kyrie was going to be hurt at this point They want to know about being no play in the team You know, no be a top five, six seed. Like they was going to get some teams some problems. And without Kyrie, who was probably, not probably, but it was a major piece to what we're trying to do because we lacked what? Ramp protection or their inside presence. But you got Lively, you got Gaffer, They inside presence.

But you got Lively, you got Gaffer, you got Powell. You don't got, think about it. You got all the way to the NBA finals last year and you didn't have Anthony Davis. Right. You just ran into a better team. They were deeper than what you were. You had Tatum, you had Brown, you had White, you had Prisingas for a couple of games, Al Horford played well, you had Holliday, you had guys coming in and contributing, Pratt & Pritchett, Sam Howser.

You got that, that's where Celtics beat you. They're a deep team. Look at yesterday, that game. Tatum North Brown played well, Derrick White was sensational. Pratt & Pritchett was gonna probably be sixth man of the year. That's how you win a championship, because when your big guns aren't firing,

it's the small artillery that gets it done. I'm going to go to my boss. I'm going to say, I will do what you asked me to do, but I just want you to know. I don't think you understand sports is a way of life in Texas. They're not, we're not the cowboys now. We're not. But just know, there's gonna be huge resentment if we follow through with this. Mm-hmm.

Are you okay with this, sir? Okay? Hey. Yeah, Rob. What's going on? Hey, what's up? The GM for the Lakers? Rob. Rob Pelinka. Hey, Rob, what you doing, man?

I ain't doing nothing man. Hey, just chillin. Hey, what you think about uh, would you be willing to trade me AD for Luca? I Gotta play it off. Yeah Oh, no, I don't know about that one now. Come on now. Cause we don't want a championship with AD. I mean, he's a guy that gives you 24 and 10, 24 and 11, go block shots. He should have been defensive player of the year all the while.

I'm like, he gone. I don't know. Are you sure, Dico? Are you sure? Hey, I want you to think about this. I want you to think about, I'm gonna do this in the fall. Ha ha ha. Yeah. I'm gonna have to run this up the flagpole.

I'm gonna need to talk to Jeannie about this. We about, hey Joe, we about to get there. We about to get there. Let me call you back. Jeannie, I got me a fish. What you mean? What you mean Rob? you mean, Rob? Did you know Nico Harrison just called me and asked me would we trade AD for Luka

plus a player that's not named LeBron, Austin Reeves? Are you kidding me? And that first round draft pick in 2028. I hope you told him yet. I was like, no, I'm just, I'm pretending like I'm not interested, you know. Hey, hey, Nico, so what's up? What's up? Are you serious?

I already got the, I already got the, I already got the trade going up. AD, AD, Max Crispy, Max Crispy, first round draft pick. Listen, listen, Nico now thinking about getting that post presence so they can create that mismatch with Kyrie and AD in that pick up row. That had to be what they was thinking about because the, my turn, your turn with him and Luca, yeah, it got them to the finals, but Boston was just too tough for them, man. They had too Luca. Yeah, it got him to the finals. But Boston was just too tough for him, man. He had too much.

Yeah. Hell, Boston's gonna be too tough for Kyle Ri and AD. Because they got Prozinguz to throw at him. They got Al Horford to throw at him. They got another big body. Now what you gonna do with JT? What you gonna do with JV? Jalen and the egg.

What you gonna do with Derek White? What you gonna do with Holliday? What you gonna do with Pritchard? Howser? They got so many ways to attack you. You only got so much, it's not like the Mavericks are the breath of talent. They're not.

They got good role players. I mean, Gafford is a great role player, Lively, they do their job, but they don't have what the Celtics have. That's what makes the Celtics so tough. They got JB and JT can give you 30, 40 in a given game. Okay, they're off. Now you get Przingus or Derek White,

or you get Pritchard or you get Big Al Horford. So this doesn't make sense to me because it's still a two man team with not a whole lot of depth. Right. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they got to figure it out, man. Well, they got no choice now.

Yeah. They got to figure out what they're going to do this summer. Charles Barkley sends a message to Nico says, I consider you message to Nico, says, I consider you a friend of mine. Don't do no more press conferences. I don't even know what you're doing. I got sympathy and love for you, but I have zero idea what you're trying to do. That's his owner, sending him out there

to fall on the sword in front of everybody. Everybody knows that Nico Harrison didn't initiate this trade. Everybody knows that Nico Harrison didn't initiate this trade. Everybody knows that. A trade of this bag of truth, that going to the owner. Yeah. That ain't no trade. Hey, that ain't no, hey, for some draft picks and some cash.

That's your franchise cornerstone. And you're trading them away before he turns 26. That's ownership because the owner's saying, Nico, you ain't the one that's got a shell out, 345 billion guaranteed. And the state of Texas with no state income tax. Hold on. They think they think they slick though. Huh?

You don't think ownership think they slick. Not only are they sitting Nico out there to fall on the sword, they sending them out there saying ridiculous things. Well, you see. So I really, I really think it's a ploy. I think it's a ploy honestly to fire him on the back end and to get the fans of Dallas off their head and really put the whole thing and on us on him by firing Nico

laid on down the line Because here's the thing the source the league Most notably team and league sources say Dumont has had frustration with Harrison not warning him or perhaps even more damningly Being unaware of the fandoms outrage following the trade. You see? All Nico Harrison is doing is echoing what the, what ownership's saying. Nico knew it. Yeah.

He's been in this position too long, Ocho. He's been, he's been around it. He's been at Nike. Yeah. He's been around it too long for him not to know. So I've got to go out there and parrot what ownership is saying behind closed doors. That's why he keeps having croaks. Remember he had a press conference with no cameras.

And he said defense win championships. I ain't trading no Luca. I don't, the defensive player I get better be Bill Russell. Rest in soul, he better be Bill Russell in his prime or a Keev Olajuwon or somebody like that. I'm not, come on man. A 26 year old averaging 28, a game? Yeah.

Averaging 31 in the post season? No, I'm not giving that up. And like I said, he had to send him out there on that mission, basically a suicide mission to take all that because anytime, what they say in the military, Ocho, they have what they call a BR, a blast radius. Oh, yeah. Okay, if we drop this here, what's the collateral damage? What's the blast radius? What is our time that we need to get up? Yeah. Get up out of there. Nico, you knew this.

This fallout is gonna be like Chernobyl. And when that contractor went off in Russia and it destroyed everything for a long, long period of time. Yeah. That's what this is. They ain't getting over this any time soon. They ain't getting over this. I mean, it took Boston 80 years to get over, what, 80 years to get over that when they traded Babe Ruth.

Let's see. They ain't getting over this anytime soon. They say, it ain't another Luka walking through that door. No. And I think he got about another 10, maybe 12 years to play. So they gonna feel the wrath of this trade for a very long time, as long as he is a Laker.

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scrimmages Joe do the Lakers rebound and tied up at 1-1 go to Minnesota or does Minnesota take a commanding 2-0 lead? Sorry to tell you brother. Oh It's over. I ain't saying it's over man. I don't know what you're but my gut feeling Yeah, hey Take a probiotic that gutted you you feel better Hey, I got the number one trying to be greedy game to Know what's this state knowing that they can you know? Come out and just put put their will to the test and try and get this dove and go back to Minnesota man

Hopefully they'll come back to LA now I know you know all going LA to come out and you know, they gonna need that third score. We need Austin Reeves to You know give them a spark man. They need some I think admin is playing pretty good defense on him fighting over kicks Like I think and man are they doing on both hands on I know he didn't he didn't explore offensively but defensively he's been great and Obviously the guys around him the others like we always say if those guys ship in make Daniels and read and they play the way they Plan now, I don't know if they go shoot like that in game one But I don't know if that man come that's the thing I know you believe they're gonna make 19 you believe they gonna make night 20s 20 plus threes

I they may not but I don't think that man gonna handle 17 points neither That's okay. I'll give Ed 40, as long as they don't make 23 threes, because he can't beat us with 40. It's the 23 threes that's gonna crush it. Hey look, Laker's gonna have to step up, man, and protect home. You're gonna need brawn to come out and be aggressive.

So what, if Luka catch hot, you need to catch hot with him. Mm-hmm. That's it. But you know the thing, Joe, you know the thing is, player get hot, what you do, you feeding the ball, you get out of this way until he miss a couple and then you try to get in a rhythm. But into the meantime, cause when Luka catch fire,

he catch fire. Yeah. I mean, he liable to go for 20 in a quarter like that. It's fun to watch. And you don't want to get in his way. Go ahead Joe. I say yeah it's fun to watch when he gets it when he get it going but you know Brian has a tendency to do that you know even if AR gets off to a great start he'll make sure AR get his touches in that first quarter and he got to find a way to get others going and get himself going in order for them to be effective in this

series. Look the Temple Wars are young. They gonna be flying around. The McDade, the Reeds, Ant-Man, like those guys gonna fly around, play hard, cause havoc, the DiVincenzo's. I like the makeup of their team, man. They're ready for the postseason. Like I say, hey, Ant-Man, he done took some guys out, man. He done took a few out. He's really good about himself. You know, he won't. He won't that Luca and LeBron pilled on his wall like he got that KD pilled. Yes.

Like he got that Nicole Lyokidze pilled. Yes. Yeah, that'd be big. But I think the thing is we get this game. The Lakers get this game here. What is the next game? You say you think. No, I'm saying the Lakers get this game here.'re gonna have two three days off cuz you got to travel with the

next game Thursday or Friday they got winning game too hey you got a we got a win game hey think about that joke we had two days off win one, got two more days off. Uh-oh. P-Patrol. Hold on, hold on. We win game three. You skipping.

You gotta win game two first. Got it. Oh, you gotta win game two first. Got it. You sure? What? You sure? Is there echo in here? I'm just asking because, hold on. Listen, in order for you to win game two, now I'm not, listen, I ain't the bookie. I don't bet and I don't gamble.

But LeBron will have to come out and be, oh you know what, I need to get right first. I need to get right first. My approach to this game, my approach to game two can't be like the last one. I can't sit around and facilitate. I got to have that killer mentality. He has that a little bit, but he has to come out this game and have it early. I expect... He got to set the tone. He got to set the intensity. I expect him to have it.

Okay. Okay. I'm just making sure now. Um... Because I would love, I would love, I would love to see Lakers in five. But when I saw game one, it ain't looking good. But JJ, we probably could have done a few more scrimmages. That's on you. You're the coach.

You said that itinerary, you set the practice schedule, rhythm and timing. Exactly. We go for timing. Exactly. We go for that. Exactly. And it's the playoffs. I mean, even if I don't tell you, Joe, you know what it is.

You know the intensity turns up. Everybody's been, everybody on this roster with Deception of Connecticut has been in the playoffs. Okay, the young guys, they don't know, but LeBron, Lucas, AR, Finney Smith, Vanderbilt, Jackson Hayes, all those guys have been in the playoffs. They know Gabe Vinson.

They know what's at stake. So it's your job to pull the young guys alone and let them know what's at stake, the intensity. You're not gonna get those ticky-tack fire calls like you would in the regular season. They're gonna let you play. So be prepared. The 2025 NBA Awards finalists were announced.

MVP, Nikola Jokic, Shea Gilderis Alexander, Yanis Antetokounmpo. Defensive Player of the Year, Dyson Daniels, Draymond Green, Evan Mobley. Rookie of the Year, Stefan Castle, Zachary Reshear, Jalen Wells, Sixth Man of the Year, Malik Beasley, Ty Jerome, and Peyton Pritchett. All right, Joe, who you got? MVP. I got Shade.

I got Shade. Go ahead. Defensive Player of the Year. I'm running them off again. Defensive Players of the year. I'm running them off again. Defensive players of Dyson Daniels, Hawks, Draymond Green, Warriors, Evan Mobley, Cavaliers. I got Dyson Daniels.

Okay. Rookie of the year. Castle, San Antonio, Richer, Atlanta, Jalen Wells. I think he plays at Memphis. I got Castle, Castle been, he was pretty consistent this year. Love, I agree.

He can play. Sixth band of the year, Malik Beasley. Detroit, Ty Jerome, Cavaliers, Peyton Pritchett, Celtics. I'm going Peyton Pritchett. I'm going Peyton. Going Peyton Pritchett. I can see that. He's been consistent and you know, when it's his time to shine, I'm going to pay him. I can see that he's been consistent. And you know, when it when it's his time to shine or when it's moment, you know, comes

he always shows up. So I'm going to pay him. Who you like Ocho? Give me give me give me give me give me categories in my name MVP. Nicole Yocic. Oh, okay. You can stop there. SCA SCA, okay, you can stop there. SCA, SCA, that's my MVP.

It's been my MVP for a long time, but go ahead. Defensive player of the year, you got Daniels, Draymond Green, or Evin Mobley. Ooh, Daniels. Rookie of the year, Castle, Rashir, Jalen Wales. Castle, young boy, young boy. Sixth medal year, Beasley, Tygerone Payton Pritchett. Oh, Pritchett.

Pritchett. Most improved player, Joe Cade Cunningham. Ivica Zubats. Dyson Daniels. That's tough. Boy, I'm going Cade. I think they won, how many games they won? 16 last year?

Yeah. First of all, you're the number one overall pick. You should be eligible for this reward. It should go to Zubox. He had to hide. Score average. No, I think Zubox averaged a double double, career high and points everybody. Okay

Coach of the year you got Kenny Atkinson, JB Bickerstaff, or Ima Udoka I'm gonna go Ima Udoka They gonna go Atkinson, but I think you don't go to be the sixth seed after winning the winter like 15, 16 games last year. Yeah. Yeah. With the clutch player, Nicole, a Yoke, Jalen Brunson, Ant-Man, you say clutch player.

Yep. Jalen Brunson. Who else? Yokey, Ant-Man, Ant-Man. Damn. That's a good one. Big-Body Bronson, boy. Big-Body Bronson, man.

Hey, listen, I'm not gonna lie to y'all, he scared me down the streets when he playing Detroit or just any game. You know what I mean? Because he gonna make a play. He gonna either get fouled or he gonna score. I'm going Big-Body Bronson, man. I like that they call that timeout and then you're in and out of the baseline, Because he gonna make a play he going to get foul or he gonna score up one big body brussel Yeah, I

Like that they call that timeout and then you're in and on the baseline He went and got that three-pointer that was a good call to a lot of a timeout Yeah, great. Oh great. Are there any surprises are there anybody that you think should have been on that got left off? Nah Nah. Nah, I don't think so. Who you got with your clutch player? Jokic, Bronson, or Edwards? Yeah, I'm going with Jalen every time.

And I think Jalen's been in more clutch situations to show why he's clutch. I'm not saying Ant-Man isn't, I'm not saying Joker isn't. I'm just saying he's been in more situations to be able to display that clutch gene Coach of the year got Kenny Atkinson, JB Bickerstaff, I made Udoka. I made it. What you talking about? Them boy was sorry last year, it wasn't nothing to watch. No disrespect. Hey that boy Jalen Green nice though, huh?

I couldn't tell. He hadn't played well the last couple games on Joe He'd been bad. Hey, right, right. They lost game one too on Joe It's gonna be hard man playing against we got this in championship pedigree over there. Hey, don't boy ball it man And that's he and what and that's what really concerned me about the Rockets Joe is that they don't have a ball, a guy that can give the ball to. They got a, they got a collective group of guys. But if you think about it, everybody, for the most part,

got a guy you can hand the ball to and he go get you bucket. They're the only team don't. Even if you look at, uh, you look at, uh, the Thunder, they got shade. If you look at Memphis, they got jaw. The Lakers got two or three guys. You look at everybody that's in the Thunder, they got shade. If you look at Memphis, they got jaw. The Lakers got two or three guys. You look at everybody that's in the West,

they got a guy, Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler. Every team has a guy, you can hand him the ball and he can go get you a bucket. And the Rockets don't have that. This is what the playoffs about too. Like I tell you, we know you plays, we know what you running, we switching everything and now know you plays, we know what you're running. We switching everything and now you got to get a bucket.

And, uh, you're right. The Rockets hadn't had anybody who can efficiently, you know, be reliable to word down the stretch, we were like, okay, we can get a bucket or a file. We give them the ball and you know, he know what the Warriors got. Steph. Yeah. Well, listen, you got amazing. Warriors got Steph. Yeah. Well, listen, you got amazing. Ray Marlin is starting his role. Them other guys, the Moody's, those other guys playing well, too.

They garden, they're defending and they're playing. They're playing like, you know, this is it, man. They know game one is always like the best game to get. Easy to understand. Made a statement earlier. Made a statement earlier. Yeah. again. Easy to steal. Made a statement early. Made a statement early. Yeah. Joe, many think Trey was, Ice Trey was smuggled to Clutch, uh, Clutch player. He buried three game winning shots, the most by any player in the NBA this season, the final 10 second sports quarter overtime.

He owned it plus 34 in Clutch games this season. You're right. I forgot about Ice Trey. But here's the thing. Everybody else team in the playoff. I know. That's the only thing. Outside of that, oh look, hold up. Oh, we were fighting the Hawks. We were fighting early in the year.

We get Jaylen Johnson go down in January and it just kind of took our hopes away. He was there. He was Mr. Do it, Mr. Everything. Yeah, walking double, double. And at the time, I think we were in the playoffs before he got hurt. And we played good basketball. So I'm looking for my hoax man to get healthy. You know, we got a lot of young guys who gained a lot, who gained some great experience, you

know, playing in that play-in game and understanding the magnitude of what playoff basketball is like man, we just got to stay healthy come back next year and Have have a have a rememberable season, but Hopefully we can keep tre around man. I've been hearing a lot of rumors, but I want to be you out there Hey, I enjoy got a question for you Joe speaking of that play-in game Yeah, y'all played again and some of those players getting some playoff experience who y'all lost to again? Man we lost to the Heat Ocho. Okay okay I just wanted to make sure you understood and remember that's all. Yeah we got two of our

starters out big uh what's my big son of name we got Jay oh Clint Capella was out? Clint Capella been out he He been out, Clint been out for a minute. So also y'all had y'all had y'all, wait man, y'all had y'all father, you know, congrats. Wait, wait, wait, hold on now. Now, now you, now now you, Jimmy Butler was gone, right? Yeah, Jimmy been gone. So, so collectively as a team, I'm not,

we don't have a guy you can actually go to. We have Bam, we got Tyler Hero. You got Tyler Hero. I'm talking about that guy. I'm talking about that guy. So a guy you can actually go to. We have Bam, we got Tyler Hero. You got Tyler Hero? Yeah, we. I'm talking about that guy. I'm talking about that guy. So you're putting Tyler Hero in the same conversations with your Ant-Mans and your Steph Currys.

Okay, we got to go to him? Yeah, that's your guy now. Oh, oh, oh, okay, okay. Oh, that's what we doing? Is that what we doing? Yeah, but that's your guy. No, I'm not saying he's equivalent to those guys, but he's that guy for that team.

Okay, that's how I understand that. But Jimmy Butler was that guy before. You get what I'm saying? So you lose the guy and then someone else didn't just become the guy because if you that guy, you that guy regardless of who's around you. The volume. The 40s and free agents podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 20-25 NFL draft. We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason. And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft. So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered before your favorite team goes on the clock. We'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made. Listen to the 40s and free agents podcast

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