Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Shannon's message to New Orleans + CFP Quarterfinal reaction
Episode Date: January 2, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson send their condolence to the victims of the senseless terror attacks in New Orleans. Later, they recap the College Football Playoff quarterfinal...s featuring Ohio State taking down Oregon, Texas beating Arizona State, and Penn State defeating Boise State. They also discuss the Eagles decision to sit Saquon Barkley in NFL regular season finale.03:13 - Show starts08:47 - Oregon v Ohio St29:00 - Texas v ASU59:35 - Penn St blocks Jeanty from breaking record1:05:00 - Saquon Barkley will sit out on Sunday(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap
as you watch the number eight Ohio State Buckeyes totally take apart the number one team in the
country.
Oregon Ducks by the score of 41 to 21.
And even though it was a 20 point lead win, the game really wasn't that close.
If you watch that game that was total. I don't know if I've seen the number one team in the country get beat
this bad like get beat this bad Ocho in a very very very very long time yeah and
listen I just have to say one thing I want you to look at all the teams that
had a bye week they had a bye I talked about the Kansas City Chiefs having a
bye you know before they play their first
game and having so much time off.
Now look, look what happened to the teams.
Look what happened to the board.
What you have to understand, Ocho, the NFL, they've been granted bias.
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what has transpired the, uh, the sugar bowl between the Georgia Bulldogs and the fighting
Irish and Notre Dame were po was postponed and, uh, senseless act of terrorism. And so before we get into the show,
we want to have a moments of silence for those that were
impacted and all the New Orleans, New Orleansians
that was impacted, the family, friends, and loved ones
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So we want to take a few moments to pause
to heartfelt condolences to those
that were impacted by this.
I know sometimes it's really hard for you to try to wrap your mind around some things that's so senseless.
Um, I would encourage you to be willing vigilant, but not be afraid. Go about your normal life because
that's what terrorist cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal everyday
activities. But we should not, we should be vigilant. But we should not be afraid. As
we know, there is something that a person that sits high or spirit or whatever you believe
that sits high and looks low.
He is the King of Kings.
He's the Lord of Lords.
He's the Alpha and the Omega.
He's the Omnipotent One.
And I know right now it's hard to understand, but I encourage God to give us all strength and understanding that what transpired today
to start 2025, someone wanted their moment.
And they took this, they took the coward's way to do just that.
To all those that impacted, all people that lost loved ones, that lost family, that lost
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along with many other sins,
our heartfelt thoughts and prayers.
We pray that you gain comfort.
We pray that you have understanding and time.
And only when you're ready,
hopefully you find peace and solace in this.
Ocho, my heart breaks.
I can only imagine receiving the news that some
people received that this had happened.
But I do understand, but I do, I do, I do sincerely and all my heart believe
there is a higher power and a higher being and we don't understand everything is not meant for us here to understand.
But I do believe sunshine follows rain.
And it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of
New Orleans, because I know you're mourning, I know you're hurting.
But just know you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina
and a lot of other things that have happened in that city
You're built for this
We're built for this and like all things we'll get through this
Ocho the game that you just watched the Ohio State Buckeyes took apart the number one team in the country the Oregon Ducks
Ohio state Buckeyes took apart the number one team in the country.
The Oregon Ducks, 41, 21 in the Rose Bowl, Oregon.
Excuse me. Ohio State gets their revenge.
It was one of their two losses on the season they lost earlier in the year to
Oregon in Oregon.
But tonight they were really no match.
Jeremiah Smith set the stage early.
He had seven catches, a buck, 87 and two touchdowns.
Yeah. Um, but this was really a mismatch from the word jump.
Um, and I think this is what's so frustrating about Ohio state
because you see what they can be.
Now, this is the team that took away, took apart the number one team in the country.
Yes.
I pointed by three touchdowns and lost on their own home field by a team that
they were favored by three touchdowns.
Um, that's what's frustrating about them.
And I think that's what, but Ryan, they give him credit.
Uh, we've been very critical here.
Not critical.
We were critical of the game that he lost to Ohio and losing to Michigan
year in and year out, um, having that level of talent that you have.
Think about the quarterbacks that they've had.
Think about the wide receivers thinking about the D lineman.
Think about the DBS from the Denzel awards and the Jeff Okuda's and all those guys
that's come out of there.
Yes, sir.
You ain't got no national championship, no national championship to show for
all those receiver Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Jackson Smith and Jigba.
You got Crystal Lavey.
You got Garrett Wilson.
Look at those D lineman from Chase Young, the Nick Bosa.
Look at those quarterbacks.
Justin Fields and you have Rest is Soul.
What's the guy that lost his life tragically?
Dwayne Haskins.
Dwayne Haskins.
You had the other quarterback.
And so you can understand why people are like,
hold on, come on, Coach Dave.
You got this level of talent?
They had a top what? Top six, top seven pick last year
in the offensive tackle position.
They're like, hey, you got this level of talent
and you losing to Michigan
and you ain't got no national championship,
but all will be forgiven if he takes this thing
and finishes it out.
But Ohio State look good today, Ocho.
They ran the ball well, they threw the ball well,
they stopped, I mean, the high powered offensive.
Oregon, it looked very pedestrian, very mundane today.
It did.
Listen, I don't know, maybe I could be wrong,
but I think the week off, I think it did more harm than good
for them to be as flat as they look today,
as well as Oregonists played all season
long being the number one team in the country and the way they showed up today
That had to be a little bit of rust and not only was it a little bit of rust
But it was too late and there was no room for the rust when you're playing somebody like Ohio State who had a point to
Prove after losing the first time they met early in the season and that's exactly what they got Jeremiah Smith
He said ahead of time
what they got. Jeremiah Smith, he said ahead of time that if you play one on one, hey, if you play one on one, you're not going to be able to cover me. He went out there and did exactly what he was
supposed to do and handle his business. The funny thing about it, people don't, people right now are
talking about Jeremiah Smith and how great he is and how good he is and he's probably right now,
even as a freshman, probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.
Right now even as a freshman probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman Oh, I've been watching young bull at Chaminade down in Miami, you know for a few years
He'd been like that in Little League. He was like that at Ohio
He is like that when he get drafted into the NFL. He's still gonna be like that
He'd been like that for a long time outside of that man, Ohio State look very very well
been like that for a long time outside of that man Ohio State look very, very well.
Again, hoping coach Ryan Dake can finish the task at hand.
And for all the great players that have come through Ohio, Ohio state, they can have, they can hoist that trophy at the end of the day.
Yeah.
Oh, CJ Stroud was a quarterback.
You have CJ Stroud, no national championship.
Justin Fields, no national championship. So, Dwayne Haskins, no national championship. That's three
quarterbacks taking in the first round. Now Olavi, first round pick.
Garret Wilson, first round pick. Jackson Smith and Jigba, first round pick.
Marvin Harrison Jr., first round pick. Chase Young, the number two pick. Nick
Bolsa, the number two pick. Jeff Okuda, Denzel war. Come on now, Ocho.
Come on, Ocho.
I mean, people, Hey, they make it seem like we just making stuff up.
You got that level of talent.
You're in a year out and you ain't won no national championship.
And people like, Oh, Oh, they're being too hard, bro.
And you lose it to Michigan.
I don't think I personally don't think that's a stretch.
When you got that level of talent that's coming out year in and year out and you're under achieving.
There's no other way around it, Ocho.
Coach Day, you did a phenomenal job of having this team prepared.
And from the word jump.
I have a question.
Huh?
Do you still, is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all these quality
players year in and year out?
Is it still underachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship, but
the season's-
Yes!
The season's-
Oh Joe!
Oh Joe!
I'm just asking.
I'm just asking.
Oh Joe, think about it.
You got offensive player of the year, offensive player of the year, offensive player of the
year.
Think about it.
You got quarterbacks.
Yes.
CJ Stroud, Justin Fields, and you you had the Wayne Haskins in succession
Yes, sir. You like about you as Jackie Smith and jigs
But you had Gary Wilson you had a lobby you had Marvin Harrison, Jr
It's a session and a lot of those guys played together
Yeah, you had a chase young you had Nick Bosa, a Jeff Okuda, Denzel Ward.
Come on, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's 10. Bro, that's 10 first round picks.
Right there. Yeah.
And I said the same thing about Coach Saban.
Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.
I asked Coach Saban this.
If you had consistently lost to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley
and you got Judy and you got rubs and you got Waddle and you got Devontae Smith
and you got Amari Cooper and you got those quarterbacks.
You got Dua, you got Bryce Young.
You got, what's the guy that went to New England?
Uh, Matt Jones.
No, not you, Matt Jones.
Matt Jones, okay, you got him.
Now you got, and plus you got, what's the guy,
Derek Henry, and you got Nigel Harris,
you got Damian Harris.
Cop, bro, and I ain't even talking about the defense.
I ain't even talking about what they got over there.
Yeah, that one's fair.
And you put in the national championship.
That's a red... Even after a couple years of Coach Saban, and Alabama fans, y'all know this, I ain't even talking about what they got over there. And that one, that one. They even went on national championship.
Even after a couple of years of Coach Saban,
and Alabama fans, y'all know this,
even after a couple of years of not winning
the national championship,
after he had done one four or five,
they say Coach Saban had lost his fastball.
That man had got four or five national championships.
And they saying that with the talent.
You got Quinty Williams and you got Allen
and you got all those guys. See,
man, you better, hey, you better, hey, when you have that level of talent, Ocho,
I mean, think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put out every single year.
Ohio State ain't far behind. The only difference is Alabama has had once in the last 15 years has won six
national championships, played for another three. That's the difference between them and Ohio State.
And you know what I would love to hear, especially in the chat, and then probably people that are
going to watch this after the fact and hear us talk about this and saying that Ohio State is
underachieved based on the level of talent that they've had in succession there without winning the
national championship. I'm curious to hear what rebuttals and what the, not excuses,
but the reason behind why they haven't won will be. And you know, people always
find a way they come up with something. I don't want to call them excuses, but
there are valid reasons depending on what they may be, but whatever reason. I'm
curious to hear what they have to say
And Ohio State also had Joe burrow he transferred Lee he transferred with their leisure you had Jameson Williams
Hey, I wonder how do they how do they let stuff like that happen? You know?
How does Auburn how does Florida let let our cam Newton?
Yeah, how does how does Ohio State let a Joe burrow get away?
Do they not see the level of talent at that time?
Or is the fact that they don't have to be able to beat the guy that's in front of
you out? Oh, Joe, maybe Joe, who was it?
Joe Burrow couldn't beat out at Ohio State.
J J J T Barrett.
Sometimes it happened.
Uh, who was that?
Was it Derek?
Was it David Carr that couldn't
beat out Billy Bowie at Fresno State? I think it was Derek. I think David Carr
couldn't beat out Billy Bowie. Billy Bowie was like a fifth or sixth by that
David Carr with the first pick of the trial. So I'm maybe I'm confused. Did
they have the issue beating these individuals out or these players had, um, I don't want
to play politics.
I don't want to.
Seniority?
Seniority?
That's what I, yes, seniority.
Because Adrian Peterson said he didn't go to Texas, even though he's from, I think he's
from Palestine, it's because they had a guy and, and Max Brown says, you won't play, you
won't play a whole lot this year because we believe that the guy that's in front of senior, he deserves to play.
See what I mean?
Oklahoma said, we're going to let you play.
Okay.
That's probably it worked out well.
Jamison Williams, he left.
Well, Abelave, you got Jackson Smith and Jigler.
You got Gary Wilson.
Okay.
J Mo, J Mo was at Ohio State too?
He absolutely was.
Ooh.
It's sometimes, oh, sometimes a change of scenery...
There's only one ball to go around, so I kinda understand that.
Sometimes... Sometimes a change of scenery. There's only one ball to go around, so I kind of understand that. Sometimes,
you know, a change of scenery is good.
Yes, sir.
The Ohio State look good tonight.
I mean, they ran it.
I mean, the guy hit his head.
I mean, they just like, OK, we tired of throwing it.
Maybe they're preparing for the pass.
Let's just hand it off.
They hand the ball off and the guy goes 64, 65 yards.
No, 66, 66.
How do you go 60 on a handoff? You hit the hole, you hit the sideline
and don't nobody touch you.
No, and the player, even the players in the secondary
taking the angle, I don't know what kind of angle they took.
Yeah, I don't know what he took.
The first guy that missed him because they were so,
the other guys were so far out of position,
they were gonna catch him.
Once he hit that sideline
He was a rat. Yeah, but
Will Howard 17 of 26 319 three touchdowns. Well, he wrote interception Ohio State running attack 31 rushes
181 yards to touchdown
I Okay, I hit him killers back there. I hit him killers back there.
I hit him killers.
Well, that's outside though.
I think that was a car.
Henderson, eight carats for 94 yards,
two touchdowns, longer 66.
Judkins, 17 carats, 85 yards.
But they did whatever they wanted to do.
And they were all over Dylan Gabriel.
Eight sacks tonight, Ocho, check this out.
They had 28 rushes for minus 23 yards.
Let me repeat that.
28 rushes for minus 23 yards.
Now a lot of that Ocho came on sack yard college.
They still take the sack yard.
They take it from your rush.
Yes, sir.
So Dylan Gabriel carried the ball 12 times for minus 43 yards.
So they're in lives.
Why?
The minus 23.
But he was 29 of 41 for 299 two touchdowns.
But give Ohio State give us the credit.
They rush three, they got pressure.
They rush for they got pressure.
It didn't matter what they did
They could do whatever they wanted to do and they took them apart
They were they were clearly the better team now all the teams that I've seen played thus far
Yeah, they look the best they look the best
Yeah, the best the best college football team that we've seen in the college football playoffs
Yeah, thus far was Ohio. What Ohio State did tonight.
Now next week might be something entirely different. Oh, Joe, George or no, no, the name might come out tomorrow.
I think the game is still scheduled for tomorrow.
Right.
Okay.
No, today might come out here and blow us away.
Georgia might come out here and blow us away.
Right.
But the best team that we've seen thus far, top to bottom is the
Ohio State Buckeyes.
Oh yeah.
I wonder what the difference is though.
I mean, looking at the game, you have a week to prepare.
You've already played them once, you beat them once.
So I wonder what the difference was, or what did Oregon do wrong that they
didn't do the first time they played?
Uh, did Oregon get a couple of special teams touchdowns the first time they play?
I think, I think something had to, had to go really well, but, but to their credit,
Oregon did have like 500 yards of total offense the first time, but Ocho you're
at home, you know, you play better at home than you do on the road, especially
college kids that you got to realize you're dealing with 18, 19, 20 year olds.
These aren't professionals.
Well, they are somewhat.
Some of them are professional.
Well, they get paid like professionals.
Let's do that.
Let's say that.
And so, yeah, I mean, 14 points in the first quarter.
They got 20 points in the second quarter.
That was 34.
Oregon scored right before the half, went for two, got it, made it 34 to eight.
But the game really wasn't that close.
Let's be, let's be realistic.
The game really wasn't that close.
If you watched it, I don't think anybody thought once that game got the 20, got
that game, got the 21 or nothing, I don't think anybody thought man Oregon go
come back.
I don't think anybody thought that not even Oregon fans
Not even feel night
He he might be the most he might be the the most die-hard
Duck fan. He knew it was over. Yeah
Will Howard seemed to be finding his stride
319 yards three touchdowns Howard second straight game a 300 plus passing yard and his third this season and freshman wide receiver Jeremiah Smith had a career
day, seven catches, 187 yards and two scores.
Look, Ohio state has had some receivers.
It started with Chris Carter and you know, you come on down.
Oh yeah.
There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of them.
Uh, uh. David Boston.
You know, they've had, you know, obviously this runner receivers, you had Michael Thomas,
they've had some receivers, but this kid is big as he is and the way he could move.
Because most guys, Michael Thomas was big, he ain't fast like this kid.
Even CC couldn't run like this kid.
Listen, other guys are on the smallest side now.
A lot of them, I think a lot of them,
Gary Wilson look, but they're not.
This kid's like 215 pounds.
Yeah, they're a little bit more wiry.
They're a little bit angular.
I mean no disrespect, right?
Chat, they all stay with me now.
I've been watching Jeremiah Smith since high school.
He was at Chaminade, right?
So my comparison, even at the collegiate level,
even as a freshman, now I know my eyes,
I know my eyes, my eyes ain't filled me.
I got 20-20 vision, I got, if I was in the Marines,
I'd be a sniper, that's the kind of vision I got,
you hear me?
Jeremiah Smith comparison right now to me
is no different than Julio Jones when he was at Alabama.
Yeah, I agree with that.
That's him, that's him.
That is him.
There's no weakness in this game.
Man to man bumper runs, zone covers, going deep, intermediate short,
hit your head off the goalpost or anything.
That's everything.
He's well rounded and does everything very well.
Everything.
He does.
But when I compare them with Julio Jones, with some people might be disrespectful,
slow down a little bit. He's young, he's only a freshman. I'm telling you, he's only going to
get better. He's only going to improve. He's only going to get faster, stronger, get a better
understanding of the game. Dude, trust me, that's his comparison. And he will be the number one pick
in the draft. Unless there's a quarterback that comes out of nowhere and just blows us all the way
Jeremiah Smith will be the number one pick in the draft
I'm not sure what year would that be?
You got two more years. He's a freshman now. I think he's 19
But it all depends see he can't come out to leave 21 because his class he's a freshman
Now he had been red-shirted, you know
Hey, he can come out next year because his class, he's a freshman. Now he had been redshirted, you know, hey,
he can come out next year
because his class would have graduated.
But you can't come out until the class
that you come in graduates.
So that's gonna put him two more years.
But guess what?
He good, he be making two, three million dollars a year.
It ain't like the old days when you stayed in school,
maybe you got a challenger or a charger,
or you got a free meal here
Did you net bag? Uh, you got now they make it, you know, they're making eight hundred million dollars a year
Yeah, and I L deals when you saw with the kid the college kid is going to Michigan guy
He got a woman half million the quarterback. Yeah, you got to have a half million
And he got something and he got something else. Oh, and he get tutored by Tom Brady.
Yeah.
Hey, have you seen footage of film on him?
Is he really like that?
He like that.
He like that.
Yeah.
Now, put it like this, he was like that in high school.
There were a lot of kids that would like that in high school,
but they like that in high school. There were a lot of kids that would like that in high school, but they liked that in college.
Adrian Peterson would like that in high school
and in college.
You look at him like, damn,
Derrick Henry would like that at every level.
Adrian Peterson would like that at every level.
ED would like that at every level.
Some guys, it doesn't matter,
Randy, Jerry, even though Jerry went to Mississippi Valley,
people like, oh, he only doing that
because look where he doing it.
Okay.
Right.
They say the same thing about Walter Payton.
Right.
He ain't doing it, he doing it against Jack.
Okay.
He's all time lead Russian.
Yeah.
Jerry's the all time lead receiver.
So yeah, it was, that was a game.
Ohio State, they, they, they put it on them. Uh, Oregon, gotta
go back to the drawing board, boy.
Yeah.
Texas. Now this is the type of games that I like to watch.
This was a good game.
Listen, I don't know.
I don't even know what the tickets, I don't know what the
ticket prices were.
I don't care if they were nose beat.
I don't care if you were sitting at the 50 yard line.
This was, this is what you call a game
that's worth this money.
I don't care how much it costs.
Yes.
I don't care how much it costs.
This is how football should be, week in and week out.
The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State Sun Devils
in an OT thriller, a double OT thriller.
The number five Texas squandered
a 16 point lead in the fourth quarter.
Ms. To feel goes in the final two minutes of regulation and still somehow managed to
escape with a 39 31 double overtime win over the number four seat Arizona state in the
peach bowl.
Yeah.
Chick-fil-a.
Yeah.
Oh Joe.
I know. Sorry. Bo yeah, chick a lay Bo yeah, oh Joe
Hey, I'm sorry as I just checked him
Congratulations, we'll try to get him on here one of these
Or the next couple days. So maybe we can uh, we could uh, we can get him on there. He's right. They're flying back now. So
or would have had his ass over here to
but
man
This was a game.
Oh Joe, this is how it's supposed to be.
Ain't nobody trying to see no double digit.
Everybody winning by double digit.
Hell.
I thought it was, listen, the way it started out,
I thought Arizona State was gonna get blown out now.
I think too.
14, what was it, 14, what was it, 14-3?
14-3. 14-3.
Yeah, but man, they jumped out on top of the boys' head.
I'm like, aw, man, I'm finna turn the channel.
I'm finna turn the channel.
And then obviously things started to change.
Things started to move.
And I don't know what's wrong with college kickers.
Hell, I don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers.
You have one job.
You do one thing the entirety day of practice.
You kick the ball.
That's it.
Texas kicker almost cost them almost
missed two key field goals that could have sealed the win now they did win the
game but ain't no telling what what could have happened
ain't no telling what could have happened that goddamn cam how you say
y'all young bull last night on the state scat aboutbo scat scat boo scat mo
is it scat a boo because they were they were saying scat a boo they say scat bo
i mean i'm confused i mean you know what i'm gonna call him i'm gonna call him scat pack
i'm gonna call him scat scam cam scat pack okay hey he nice bro
Cam Scat Pack. Okay.
Hey, he nice, boy.
He nice.
He nice.
He's a senior too.
He coming out, huh?
Scat-a-boo.
Cam Scat-a-boo.
Okay.
Cam Scat-a-boo.
I know you're probably going to see this.
I know you're probably watching the show.
Listen, if you don't see it, I know my son going to let you know.
Boy, you the real deal, boy.
You hear me?
He a senior, huh?
Yeah, I think so.
He a senior?
Yeah.
Well, you know where you belong?
You belong.
You belong.
You belong. You belong. you belong? You belong.
He run the ball like he belong to play. He's supposed to play for the Ravens or the
Browns. Yeah. He gon' be a rarity. He gon' be a white running back. We don't see.
They don't come along very often. But normally when they come along, they gon' choke.
Hey, you know who he's gonna be like
I'm gonna get i'm gonna get a good name right here. Tell me if you remember this paten hillis. Yeah
Yeah, the little paid hillis don't give up run hard
If he didn't wait, he can shake you a little bit. He got he got a little he got a little move to him now
Well, you remember hillis was in that backfield with darrell McFadden and the other kid that went to
The witch of the Cowboys. Yeah, what's the other guy named? I mean they would they were doing it. You might be fatten and uh,
What's his I can't think of the guy's name what's what's the guy's name guy
I know y'all people talk about Toby Gerhart, the old
Cardinal, Stanford Cardinal. What's uh, he was all at
Arkansas. Felix Jones. You remember feeling like I'm
feeling John. Yeah, yes. all the way within the backfield. Yeah. Yes. Yes
Uh, but this is where games supposed to be uh, quaint viewers 20 or 30 333 223 touchdowns one of the exceptions
Uh, they didn't run the ball particularly well 30 carries 53 yards. Uh golden had a big catch. Uh,
7 foot buck 49 helm had three for 56
And uh, um, oh, chill. Yeah um Sam for buck 49 Helm had three for 56 and uh mmm Ocho yeah I think Arizona State gonna be kicking himself because I think they kind of let this one go
okay you can't let that guy get over your head in that situation Ocho now
that that that touchdown that first touchdown in OT yeah okay you can't let
it you can't I mean that's that can't that should have been the number one rule from the coach keep everything in front of you
Nothing every number one rule. Oh Joe the number one rule late in the ball game
Nothing cheap. Nothing deep. Yeah, keep it in front of you cheap. Nothing deep. Yeah, I
Don't care if he catches. I don't care if he catch a 15 yard right in front of me.
It's when you try to be the hero and get you a cheap pick.
Yeah.
That gets you in trouble.
Yep.
Ain't no way.
Same thing.
You last line of defense.
If he's even with you, you're wrong.
It's a wrap.
It's a wrap.
Hey, Ocho, it was it was fall down What the 13?
Oh Joe you cannot give that up you can't oh
Joe my heels on the goal line. I think everybody I think they thought a hair berry
I'm gonna go live my heels on the goal. I knock it down knock it down
I'm on the goal line, my heel's on the goal line. Knock it down, knock it down.
You're not getting past me.
I'm never giving no cheap talk.
Yeah, man.
I don't even want to blame the coaches.
I don't want to blame coaching.
As a player in that situation,
you've got to have some type of awareness.
Some type of awareness and understanding.
Understand the situation that you're in.
And know you can't get beat beat not in that situation at all
And if you need if I am
Let him make a great play
But let me be in position
Yeah, you're gonna make the play at least let me be in position and me he have to make a great play
You know to catch that
Man I was like, oh my goodness. Oh, fourth and 13, you give up that.
But I think Arizona State showed that they belong.
Everybody was like, well, they didn't belong
that week conference and they didn't do this
and this team didn't do that.
They gave Texas all they could have.
They definitely belong.
And more.
Oh Joe, when you watch Quinn Quinn yours, what you think?
You know, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level.
Obviously, to me, if you have enough, if you have enough talent around you,
enough players.
At this kind of level.
Any quarterback can look good on so what
kind of quarterback is viewers is this type of quarterback that goes to the
NFL and elevate the talent around him who is the kind of quarterback we need
the talent around him that to be able to I don't see him elevating anybody I
really don't and the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back lets you know
right cuz normally guys whoa whoa whoa come back we're I either will come back
to Texas he gonna transfer I don't see him going to the league he's not gonna
see the field before it yeah oh no I mean he'd probably if he gonna come back
he's probably gonna come back somewhere else but I doubt is Texas cuz I do not
gonna be archmantic now I mean I've been reading I don't know if these reports are
true oh Joe but I've been reading I don't know if these reports are true
Oh Joe, but I've been reading that this some some some team some some college team got six million dollars in NIL money for okay
I just when I just watch it. I'm like, bro
That ball that he threw to got picked. I'm trying to figure out the love to look that he loves. Yes
That hospital ball. Yeah that he threw that got picked. I'm trying to figure out. The loaf, the loaf that he loafed it. Yes.
That hospital ball. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I still don't know where he was throwing it
because the backside safety and the front side was there.
So I'm just trying to figure out, say, okay, well, who,
what did you see, what did you, what did you think you saw?
I know what did happen on that play right there.
They ran it in practice multiple times
and in practice it was open
And you know why I was open, you know why I was open to tell the people at home what they say
They tell us something the safety to do what jump to underneath so we can go the ball over your damn head
That's exactly what he did
Anyway, instead of understanding the reenya coverage, you know, and you just letting the ball go and it's not open
Cuz that's that's what happens.
What happens is we, hey, you go draw the thing up
and then the guy circle, okay, we want to throw the ball.
Now the guy that's running the scout team said,
hey safety, you drop the crossing route
and we will throw the post over your head.
Boom.
Well, come game time, hey, can you drop this over,
can you drop this over route so we can throw the post behind your head?
He's going to read it.
Right.
Duh.
You should read it, but you see what happens on Joe.
When you make your minor pre snap that you throw in the ball.
Yeah.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what happens.
He had his mind made up.
I'm throwing this post no matter what, bro.
Ain't no way you in hell, you read that and said,
you know what, I'm throwing this.
And then he throws it like a putt.
Yeah.
That's gotta be on the line.
But even if it was on the line, first of all,
that was targeted too,
cause the backside guy left his feet
and hit the guy in the chest.
Yeah.
But they didn't want to like, nah,
we can't call that target and blah, blah, blah.
Because they returned the favor
because by the letter of the law,
the Texas guy targeted, but they didn't want to impact the game in that way.
This is no targeting, but that was absolute target.
Yeah.
I mean, he would, he would help and help it.
And the other guy left his feet.
He launched.
They say you can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck of the shoulder area.
He launched and they say you can't use your helmet, your helmet, the crown of your helmet
to make a tackle.
He went helmet to helmet with the guy.
Yeah.
But, they're like, man, we can't impact this guy like this here.
We can't.
They pick and choose.
They pick and choose when to call it.
Absolutely right.
They gotta find some level of consistency when you're making these calls.
Texas had 375 total yards.
Arizona State had 510.
Total rush yard, Texas had 53.
Arizona State had 214.
Quinn Ewers was 20 of 30, 332, three touchdowns,
one an inception.
Sam Levitt, 24 of 46, 222, no touchdowns,
one an inception. But, one interception.
But that last interception,
Muhammad made a great play.
Give him credit.
I mean, sometimes Ocho, we keep blaming,
we keep blaming the quarterback,
you threw that blah, blah, blah.
But you know, the defensive guy, they steady film too.
He made a hell of a play.
Great play.
And he didn't settle with just trying to break it up.
He caught the ball.
He caught it.
And it's okay, you know, I, you know,
Hey, 84, you got to make that play.
Hey coach, you get paid too.
You think, you think Bronco players
don't know what to make money in NFL?
Right, right.
And they study for you and they got coaches too.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, hey, I understand.
I'm supposed to make the play, but you know, it's just the NFL. Everybody it's a hope. Hey, I understand. I'm supposed to make the play but you know, it's just NFL
Everybody can make a play. I'm gonna win win more than I lose
Yeah, but hey that guy made a hell of a play on that interception to seal this victory on Joe. Yeah, he did
But you can't get beat on for the 13 Oh Joe over the top court to you cannot
You can't oh Joe you cannot
know I to him. You cannot. You can't, Otto, you cannot. At all.
I was like, bro, I said, are you, I said, are you serious?
That, that's, that should have been a conversation had with the, not just the
head coach, the defensive coordinator, the DV coach, the secondary coach, the
who, the man up upstairs in the booth.
Don't get bit get beat deep.
You can't.
You can't.
Nothing cheap, nothing deep.
I am not, you will not complete this ball over my head.
You're not, because Ochoa, at worst case scenario,
I'm gonna make you line it up again
and try to run another series of downs in order to get the ball in the end zone.
Now the only thing you can hope is that once that guy gets over your head, either Quinn
you was under throws him or the guy drops the football.
Now inside of your hands. See, I want to play in my hands, Ocho.
I want to play in my hands.
I get him on the ground.
That's all I got to do.
Get him on the ground.
Well, you get him on the ground in the end zone, there's still a touchdown.
You don't get no tackle for that.
You got to tackle him in the field of play or put your ass out of bounds in order for
you to get a tackle.
Once he in the end zone, guys, and do me what, Ocho.
Can guys do me a favor, college kids.
If a guy get a first down, can y'all stop celebrating?
What did you do?
Hey, come on, huh?
Wait a minute, man.
Come on, man.
Oh, so the guy got a first down.
You get first down?
When you get that first down, you got to?
No, I'm talking about the defense.
Oh, the defense.
Oh, okay. Yeah, you got a big hit on somebody, he got a first down you got a no I'm talking about the defense oh defense oh you got a
big hit on somebody he got a first down oh I thought you made a receiver okay
okay maybe I miss them I say let me rewind this because I want to see what
you did it's still a first down yeah now look look because the kids they gonna
celebrate that I don't mind them celebrating
and plus Oh Joe
If you make a tackle, I mean if a defender what's your job?
Make a tackle. Yeah, you can't celebrate every tackle. I mean if you get if you get a sack Oh Joe, I
got a loss
Tackle for a loss you get a sack Oh Joe a big key third down, you know, you want to do this.
I get all that. But bro, the guy get three, four yards and you jump up celebrating.
Come on now. Now we, we, we do it way too much with this.
They had to having a good time out there, man.
They having a good time out there, man.
Gee, Scataboo. Scataboo.
30 carries, 143 yards, two rushing touchdowns,
eight catches, 99 yards.
Had that guy not pulled his face, man,
he's gonna drag his you-know-what into the end zone.
Ocho, Scataboo was so outstanding,
he was named Peach Bowl offensive player of the game.
Yeah.
You don't see that very often.
His name is Scat Pack.
Scat-a-boo?
Scat Pack.
Scat Pack.
Well, Scat Pack did something
that you don't see very often.
A guy winning offensive player of the game
from a losing team.
Yeah, yeah.
It's only happened, you know, Jerry West,
Jerry West, the first year they gave out finals MVP in 1969, Jerry West won
the award on a losing squad.
They lost the championship 4-3, the final game they lost on their home court.
Again, now you got to go back to the end of football.
Chuck Howley, he won Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad.
They lost 16-13 to the Colts.
Chuck Howley was the MVP.
That's the only time that I can remember
somebody from the losing squad winning an award.
Yeah.
Now I'm not saying that maybe it's happened.
I don't know if in baseball,
if somebody's won a World Series MVP from the losing squad,
I have to go way back, but I don't remember.
That's what I don't think has happened
in the last 25, 30 years.
But it just goes to show you just how outstanding
that this gentleman was from the Sun Devils
running and catching the football.
He was, he was.
He belongs. When you're able to perform like that Sun Devils running and catching the football. He was, he was.
He be, he be, he belongs when you're able to perform like that against a team like that, it lets you know you belong regardless of the conference you play in.
Oh yeah.
But you could, you can tell guys that the talent shine above.
Oh yeah.
You can tell.
I mean, he, okay. That's an SEC defense
All right, and he wouldn't got a book 30. He wouldn't got a book 43 on
And he almost had a hundred yards this evening so he had what?
200 and what's that
242 yards a total offense
242 yards of total offense.
Hey man, the two touchdowns against the SEC defense.
You look good. When, when, when you go, when you go play and if you are a small school
low, Joe, if you play a upper level, say you go to division two and you play FCS
or you FCS and you play D one, right.
The talent is shining through.
Darius Leonard, when he played Clemson, he was a South Carolina state. He had is shine through. Darius Leonard when he played Clemson he was at
South Carolina State. He had 29 tackles. Oh he could play. Yeah. I played Georgia
Southern. They were the they were the the one double a national championship the
year we played them. Right. I dropped 202 on him. Oh he could play. Yeah. Elon was
the NIA national championship the year before. I dropped 221 on him. Oh, he could play. Yeah. Elon with the NIA national championship the year before, I dropped 221 on them.
Oh damn, he did that?
Yeah. And you know what? This is another conversation that I always like to have.
Where young players coming out of high school, they're always so focused on all their offers and where they're going.
And I say it again, if you really like that, if you really like that
and you feel you're as good as you think you are, it really don't matter where you go.
Right.
You can put up performances like that,
which you were able to do against better talent or being like Scat Pack and coming
out there and performing very well against.
I mean, it's just.
You know what, Ocho, I think a lot of times
when you cut on the TV and you see that horseshoe pat,
or you see 108,000 at Texas A&M,
you see 100,000 at Georgia, you see 93,000 at Alabama,
you see 105,000 at Tennessee,
kids like, I wanna play in front of that.
That's all I mean. I, you know, that's, that's what I want.
That's what I wanted.
Oh Joe, because that's what I saw on television.
I didn't see no HBCUs.
Right.
But see, I understand what you're talking about, but then now we, we go into the
issue of, okay, I want to go to these big schools where they have players that
have been there before me and they, I get there and they tell me, Oh, I gotta
wait my turn or I might not trust the field as much because we have so-and-so
and he has seniority over you not about know what I'm coming in here to compete
for the job but you mean to tell me he has seniority over me so he's probably
gonna play before me instead of let me have an opportunity to beat him out
regardless of what what what is a grade level is?
They had a choice. It don't matter. Oh they had to play me Ocho. Oh you think Jeremiah Regardless of what, what, what is a grade level is? Julius, freshman.
It don't matter.
Oh, they had to play me, Ocho.
Oh, you think Jeremiah Smith was gonna go to Ohio state and have to sit
behind somebody that's a senior or junior because they been there for what?
Two, for three, three or four years?
Man, man, man.
Hey, you better get on the bottom of that because you know who coming.
Hey, hey, they had to play me, Ocho.
Oh, what you thought oh
i was one of the few uh freshmen that travel right i ain't just traveling oh you could travel this
week man travel to do what stand on the sideline of my uniform oh hell nah right
and and and and in the first game the first game we played, Ocho, our first home game.
Yeah.
Man, I was so embarrassed, Ocho,
I called a goal ball, Ocho.
Right.
56 yards, got tackled on the one.
Oh, huh?
My first catch in college.
Hold on, hold on, what you embarrassed for?
Man, that's supposed to be a 50-self-yard touchdown,
not a 56-yard catch.
Well, what's my instinct?
You gotta step in, man way you gotta stiff him,
you gotta catch that thing and get that stiff arm
back behind him.
Oh, it felt like I was running,
it felt to me like I was running slow motion.
I was like, damn, is somebody pulling the ends
on away from me?
Damn!
Whoa, shit, hold on, man.
They got the AC on in here.
I'm tripping.
You mean they, you?
I mean, no, listen, when you come to a hotel, right?
And the hotel know you in the cold city,
they should have all the rooms already set
with the heat on.
No, well see, if you had an assistant,
the assistant would tell them,
Mr. Johnson, like his temperature temperature set at a certain temp.
So when I get to my hotel room,
the hotel is already at temperature of 68 degrees.
Well, how about if my assistant didn't decide to leave me
that's been my assistant for the past five years,
didn't decide to motherfucking up and leave,
then maybe my goddamn heater would have been on
when I got in this motherfucker.
Well, I don't know if that she say she'd say first of all as long as
you cursing she ain't coming back. Second of all she say she ain't no more for
assistant. But you said you was looking for an assistant. Yeah I was cuz I had to
get a new one. I don't know well. How is gonna be your sister that she got her stuff to do. Oh Joe
You knew what you signed up fuck when I when you tried to holla at that you didn't tell her that I did
I gave it a paperwork. Okay. I gave it a paperwork
This is what this is what I come with like are you are you able to?
Abide by these obligations that I need?
Now, I need help in my life.
You paying for that?
How about you pay for that?
Huh?
Because I know what I paid my sister.
Oh, I mean, she make about $150, $180 a year.
Okay, that's good money, yeah.
That's exactly what I paid my sister.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then, everything you have to worry about nothing,
hey, you get into the car,
the seats already pulled all the way forward,
you don't have to do none of that.
Hey, Mr. Sharp like his bag, this bag, his duffle bag,
he like to sit next to him.
Yes, all that, Ocho.
Yeah, but you gotta understand,
I ain't had that for two months now.
So now, I got to feel a so now I don't I got to feel
I got to feel I got I got to feel a position I don't got time to wait no more it's the new year
it's 2025 I ain't got time to play
I mean with her busy schedule uh she got a Netflix show coming out. She got another show coming out. She's doing it.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before all that came along,
you knew what the obligations were
when you signed up for this.
No, did you relay that information to her?
I did.
It was in the goddamn contract.
Oh, okay.
Ain't nobody tell you to sign the motherfucking dotted line
if you won't finish the goddamn job.
Shit. Ain't nobody tell you to sign the motherfucking dotted line if you won't finish the goddamn job. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Hehehehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe He to on three multiple power for schools are working to get yours in the portal
ahead of the final, his final year of college eligibility.
Six million for one year.
Oh Joe.
Yeah.
He got, he got, he got to come back.
He has to come back and continue to work on his game.
Cause when you watch court, when you watch yours, I need your play to pop out on the screen.
Yes.
I needed to pop out.
When you watch the Joe Burrow in college, you watch the Cedric Stroud in college.
When you watch other quarterbacks like the Cam Ward, they pop out on screen.
There's something special about those individuals.
Special.
So he needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter where it is, and
you know, pop out.
I agree with you, Ocho. I don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't
see special. I don't see, I don't see, man, a must have, a guy that's a, like, boy, if
they get him, he's gonna, he's gonna drastically change their fortunes.
I don't see that.
Right.
Now, let's see.
He might come back and get better because nobody saw that.
If you'd have asked teams that were going to look at Joe Burrow before he came back
for a senior year, Joe Burrow didn't seem special, but he came back for that year, he
was special.
Matt Jones.
Hell, if Matt Jones don't come and get that one year,
Matt Jones ain't no first round pick.
Right, right, right.
Sometimes, look, and I, hey,
I don't blame Matt Jones. People are like, well look what,
yes, okay, now,
can he make it happen?
You throw in to Devontae, you got Najee,
you got Waddle, you know,
you got, hey, you got a very, very
talented team
It just goes to show you just how good he was cuz he kept a bright young on the beach
If we see Bryce young the next year won the Heisman
Hey And also look at the talent this way sort of like about Bryce too now
We saw him we saw Bryce win the Heisman, but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.
Yeah, for sure.
He got to Carolina, he thought something was wrong with him. Then he gets benched.
He come back out to get benched and I don't know what the hell happened.
I don't know what type of prayer he said.
Now he's back to playing great football,
look like the Bryce Young we saw in college,
even in losing, even in losing efforts at the team
and as a quarterback, he looks completely,
totally different than he did when he first started.
He did, he does.
They just need to give him some talent.
If you look at the quarterbacks that performed well,
look at CJ Stroud, look at where he was throwing
the tank, Dale and Nico Collins. Look at where he was throwing the Tankdale and Nico Collins.
Look at what he was throwing too.
Yeah.
Okay. Look at Caleb Williams.
He got Roman Doomsday first round pick.
He got DJ Moore who just signed a contract extension.
He got Keenan Allen.
Look at what Daniels.
Yeah.
Look at what he's throwing too.
Damn, I mean, y' I want the man to come out.
Hey, I don't care.
Even Peyton, Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison when he got there.
He had Marvin Harrison.
He had Ken Dilder.
I mean, and he had Marshall Paul.
And Craig.
Yes, as a rookie.
He had two first ballot Hall of Famers as a rookie.
That's a little bit of the proposal. As a rookie he had two first ballot Hall of Famers as a rookie
That's a little bit the Pro Bowl there's another I forget the guy's name Oh my goodness the other tight end as a matter of fact the Coles had two tight ends to make the Pro Bowl
Mark what's his name all go make a look at our 90
Teddy stop scratching the couch.
I can't think of the other, the other bro, he was like, what's that dude's name?
Cause I traded, I traded helmets with Ken Dilgat
at Provo one year.
I'm trying to think what year was that?
I don't even remember.
Provo, tight end.
No, no, no, in like the 90s.
Yeah.
Marcus Pollard.
Thank you, chat.
Marcus Pollard.
Marcus Pollard.
I remember Marcus Pollard. Hey, I ain't heard that name in a minute, Chad. Marcus Pollard. Marcus Pollard. I remember Marcus Pollard.
Hey, I ain't heard that name in a minute, man.
Yeah.
So I mean, y'all want these guys to come out here
and do spectacular things.
But go back and look at your favorite quarterback
and see what they were throwing to.
Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became the starter,
y'all know who he was throwing to, right?
He had Tyreek.
He had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis
Kelsey. Could I interest you in any of those guys? Two of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.
Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame. That's what he was throwing to.
Look at what Big Ben had to throw to. Oh no look what he's always always had to throw to.
Hey the Pittsburgh Steelers are just like Cincinnati when it comes to receivers. You know that?
You noticed that?
They always, always have good receivers come through that channel no matter what.
Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, always.
Yeah, they had Plaques, they had Hines, what you got it one of the Super Bowl MVP? Santonio Holmes. Santonio Holmes. Yeah, they had plaques, they had Heinz. What you got in one of the Super Bowl MVP?
Santonio Holmes.
Santonio Holmes?
Yeah.
I mean, bro, y'all making it seem like, I mean,
I mean, yeah, give Bryce Young those type of weapons.
Let's see, let's see.
You gotta get a guy something to work with.
Remember, you know, I think, Marina, what?
I think Dupreeh clayton got there with marino in uh 83
they might have came in 80s it might have been 82 they might have got there together
but you gotta get a guy something to work with damn
Penn State says resolved. It says it.
They wanted to do everything they possibly could to make a long story short, Ocho Penn
State did not want Gentie to get that record on their watch.
Gentie entered the game needed 131 yards of breaking the record of tying the record 132 to break it. Barry had 26-29
said in 1988 Penn State defense Stifle Gentile holding him to a season low 104 yards rushing.
It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. He finished 28 yards shot of breaking Barry Sanders record.
Hey, listen, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would pop
a young boy like that, man.
Yes.
They would, they would, they would let him have it.
Now I thought honestly, I'm just going to be honest, honest with you.
I didn't think he was going to do well against Penn State because the level of
competition he was playing, playing at or with or against for that matter and his conference.
But he looked, he looked pretty, pretty, pretty goddamn good.
Yeah.
He was breaking tackles.
He ran hard, Ocho.
He ran very hard after contact.
You know, I'm not sure, I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact, but.
Most of them.
He was hard to bring down. sure I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact but most of them hey he was
hard to bring down the first the first guy never made the tackle the first guy
never brought him down yeah but like I said oh Joe you look you don't want that
record my thing was that I said this on first take I said look I know what
Aston Gentry is let me tell you what I'm gonna do if that quarterback goes at
them both for 350 three touchdowns I I'm going to go to the middle
of the field, shake his hands and say, congratulations, young man.
Good luck moving forward.
But I refuse to let Gentie run their ass to a victory.
That's not going to happen.
And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football.
And he couldn't.
Because, you know, when you when you take that running game away cuz they wanted to give him the ball
But I thought and the problem is they fell behind
Yeah, you fall behind. Oh Joe that game was about to get really out of hand had the quarterback
Aller he's doing the right thing by coming back because he's not very good
I don't think in my eyes watching him play for the three or four games that I've seen him play. He is average
He's an average. He's an average college quarterback.
There's nothing special about him.
Yeah.
But if he doesn't fall with that ball and they're about to go up 20, 21 to nothing,
it's just they about to get out of here every day.
And now you really.
And that's what happened when you get ahead like that.
Guess what? You take him out of the running game.
You had to go.
But gently he ran hard, but they take him out of the running game. You had to pull it. Yeah.
But Gentie, he ran hard, but they give him state credit. They say, we don't want you to break that record on us.
And they did a great job of neutralizing it.
Look, they need to go back
and everybody that played in the bowl game,
they need to put, add those yards to the total.
You can do it. Right. Just add just add Barry. What did you get in the holiday bowl? Just go look it up.
Bear had like 225 in the holiday bowl. Barry's record is really like 12 games,
2800 yards and like 40 plus touchdowns.
They didn't count the bowl. See, they didn't count the ball game back then or to like they do now
Well had like 20 care and it took him out very could have had another 300 yard game
They talk about what they were letting taking gente out go look at some of bad game
And they when they took him out bear was having 300 yard games
That's crazy. Look at what he did to Oklahoma. Look at what he did to Nebraska what he did to Missouri
Go back and look at Barry's stats. Even if gente had
a broke his record, the greatest college rushing season is Barry
Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history.
Again, don't borrow that 5060 touchdown season and Barry
Sanders, 2800 yards and 40 plus touchdown. Y'all if y'all just
go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll like you'll get a better appreciation of Jibarra Sanders college career.
Yeah.
And his sophomore year he backed up Thurman Thomas.
Yeah Barry didn't start Thurman started Barry read back points and kickoffs
Yeah, that ain't let that sink let that sink in many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in NFL history
And he had to sit
Started what you
That's crazy
Yes, it, it was, it was what Joe Burrow did that season there.
You're probably not going to see it again because you're probably not going to be able to find two receivers like chasing Jefferson.
Yeah.
And then when you combine Marshall and then you had the tight end or
random all son Thaddeus or you had Clyde.
It was a layer.
You had Joe Burrow throwing the ball.
You had an offensive line that was the best in college football.
You got the perfect storm.
Yeah.
And you get the perfect storm.
You saw it.
I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns.
That's 60.
And look at, and look at, look at some of the stats, what he did to Georgia,
what he did to Clemson, what he did to Georgia, what he did to Clemson,
what he did to Alabama.
Yeah, I think-
Oh man, just some straight up bull diggity.
What'd I told you they was gonna do?
Saquon Barkley will sit out of Sunday's
final regular season game against the Giants,
putting an end to his chase of single season rushing record.
With Philly's postseason seating secured, Nick Sarriani will be resting his starters.
Saquon told Philly reporter, Debon Kaney at 94WIP, he's at peace with the decision.
What did I say?
Coach asked me, you know, what I like to do.
We had a conversation and, you know, he called me back and let me know that we're probably
going to be resting.
And my reaction was kind of like I told my family, obviously my family, you know, probably
wanted a little bit more than me.
But at the end of the day, the most important thing is, uh, winning football
games and winning the playoffs.
So, um, I got a big goal in Miami.
Even, even listen, that was all PC.
That was on PC.
I told you what they were going to do.
Listen, you have a player in Saquon Barkley that is on a historic season,
on a historic, historic on a historic run.
Now, I understand the bigger picture obviously is getting
to the Lombardi Trophy, you know.
You can do both.
You can do both.
You can do.
There's a milestone that he had the chance of reaching.
And we said, oh, we're wrestling our starters.
I told you they were going to do that.
I knew they were going to do them like that.
I knew it.
I knew it. Oh, Joe. And I'm not I were gonna do that. I knew they were gonna do them like that. I knew it. I knew it.
Oh Joe, and I'm not, I'm speaking from experience.
We had a very similar situation with Terrell Davis.
Yeah.
Terrell Davis need 170, 171 yards?
Yes sir.
170?
Anyway, he got once, he need the last game of the season.
We had home field sold up.
Right.
We're 13 and two.
The worst we could be was 13 and three.
The Jets couldn't catch us because they were 12 and four.
The best they could be was 12 and four.
We had home field sold up.
The offensive line said we want that record.
Yeah.
Well hell, he, TD, they say they want they wanted let's go get it
We got 178 my final game
Hmm, and guess what happened in 98 Oh Joe. I have went to and he went ran for 199
Against Miami the first game
Blew them out. He was out the third quarter, ran for about book 50 against the
Jets in that game and then went over 100 again against Atlanta.
Right.
So it can be that make it seem like well, if you play in the final game, we and he might
get the role, he might get dinged in the first player to regular seat to get the playoff.
You can't look at it like that.
You're running back. You play football. I'm getting that. I'll tell you what. It cost y'all
five million dollars for me to sit down. Well, I'm going to raise holy hell. Give me five million.
I'll shut it down. And I sit down. I'm getting something out of this. That's too close though.
That's too close. I need five million though, Joe. I'm like, what Dems they'll say? I'm leaving
with something. Yeah. I'm leaving with something.
Yeah.
I'm leaving with something.
If you could say it quietly, I would have said, listen, you're the rest of the star
team, but I'm not, I'm not resting.
I'm going to play.
Hey, I'm a backup.
I'm going to play.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe, do you understand how close that is?
He's a hundred and one yard.
Jonathan Taylor just ran for 125 to either 125 against the jazz.
And plus I want to stick it to him.
I want the Maras.
I won't show him or whatever his name is, the general manager.
I wanted to see.
That would have been perfect.
Can you imagine NFL Russian record against the team that lets you go against
the team that gave up on you against the team that gave up on you, against the team that said,
you know, we don't really value not only you,
but the position you play and what you can do for us.
Yes.
I would love that.
Come on, man.
And I think, you know what, honestly,
I think that call is coming up from somewhere else.
And look at Tom Brady. Somewhere else.
When Tom Brady broke that record,
they didn't have nothing to play for against the Giants.
No, they didn't.
Tom Brady went out there and got the record.
Randy Moss went out there and got the record.
They had nothing to play for.
Now, okay, they lost to Super Bowl,
but do you think them playing in that game had anything,
one doesn't have, y'all trying to make it exclusive.
Well, if we do this, we can't do that.
No, man, I'll be better than me.
Because I'm like, bro, and it's 101 yards.
As soon as the first off of the series would happen,
I would have been I do with my helmet on.
Hey, hey, I was like hey guys I
Got I got a hundred thousand if we get this record by the half
each office in line we get a hundred file I
Never matter fact everybody on the offense. I got a hundred five for you because guess what Oh Joe
When you said when you when you go to the autograph signing now, you're a single season Russian league,
and you write 2106, when you write 2120,
you make that back in one signing.
You gotta understand, you're like,
listen, Syk-1 is already that boy anyway.
Yes!
Can you imagine what would happen to his life
if he gets that Russian record?
Ocho, listen, I'm telling you,
cause I don't, like I said, I don't sign that much, you guys, I only sign about once every five years, I'm telling you because I don't like I said I don't sign that much guys I only sign about
once every five years I'm good but when you put that insignia now you can just get the names okay
Saquon Barkley 26 now single season Russian leader oh that extra that extra that extra That extra. That extra. Yeah. Every, every inscription is extra.
O-P-O-P-O-Y.
Extra.
If he's sports enough to make it in the Hall of Fame, HOF, that's extra.
Excellent.
Yeah! Oh man, please.
And then, I have a question, huh?
In the history of the NFL, when it comes to running backs,
has there been any to go back to back 2000 yard seasons?
No, there's never been a 2000 yard. No.
Derrick Henry had the best chance. Derrick Henry had about 1100 yards in nine games and he got hurt.
He went 2000, he was on another history. He was ahead of the pace in which he rushed for 2000.
But he got dinged and missed.
Our whole point of why, when you have the opportunity to do it, to make a change, to make a difference,
to make history, you take it.
Yes.
Take it.
Because you're not gonna get the opportunity again.
The chances of doing this again are slim to none.
Slim to none.
But it is what it is.
I'm having-
I'm thinking about that.
The NFL is over a hundred years old.
I would have had the greatest single season rushing in NFL history. The greatest.
Okay. Somebody break that record. But you know who record they broke? Mine.
That's who record they broke. That's just like, I'm just being honest, I'm just being honest guy. I'm just being honest
I'm just too close. I honestly I'm just too close
101 yards and he played his tail off
He probably looking back like man man some of those games that I went out and let the other guys I could have
It might have been a situation. I've been only like 50 yards and then 50 they might have let me get it
You know, I just hope I just hope they make a run in the playoffs I
Hope they make a run in the playoffs, especially taking this route
Obviously resting the starters. I want I want I want I want the Eagles to make a run because yeah to me or as For Saquon to say the rest and have the chances of getting an individual accomplishment of that magnitude
We're either leading Russia of all time, right?
And the first round you mean to tell me god damn we going home and I set out and I've rested for that shit
Mm-hmm. Oh hell no. I mean, I'm old enough, I'm old enough to remember when ED broke the record in 1984.
Yeah.
So to like to see a record and to see somebody break it again, I'm old, when Danny, Marino,
because those two records happened in the same year.
Danny threw for 5,000, ED ran for 2,100.
That happened the same year, 1984.
I'm old enough to remember when
Peyton broke the record, broke the touchdown record. He threw 49, Marino had 48. And then
Tom Brady in 2007 threw 50. And to see the records happen, I remember when Gastineau,
when Gastineau broke the sack record. I mean, they're like, not just like,
oh, I was a lot, but I saw it, I remember it.
Man, damn, say, quiet, you done ruined my week.
They, I started hearing with them,
I don't know, we gonna talk the brass.
That's why I said what I said last week.
I know the game, I know how they gonna play,
they gonna play.
At least they gonna play every time. Well, he already got it. He already got he got the money
He got you know, he had five hundred thousand if he's first team all-pro. He had another what 250 for the Pro Bowl
he had
They another fact he's that we've made one point two one point two feet
But even forget the money forget the incentive that he's made 1.2, 1.250. But even forget the money, forget the incentive that he's already reached.
I'm talking about the milestone
of being the all time leading rusher in NFL history.
You don't pass up that opportunity.
You don't.
Because it's not going to come again
unless you playing fucking Madden.
Oh, you can't miss that.
So many things have to go right.
And you were running back oh Joe think
about it that man he got 300 plus carries okay that's running the football
how many passes have he called okay hitting the ground getting tired I
understand the ones that he did but what about it I ain't talking about just the
one tackle what about they hit him he hit the dirt and then another two, three guys fall on top of his ass.
Yeah.
Ah, hell no, give me that record.
Damn y'all.
I'm sorry, chat, but I really wanted to get it.
I mean, I ain't got, look, I'm a fan of the game.
I'm a fan of history.
And I just like, I like to see records broken.
I really do.
Sorry, ED. I was a fan of history. And I just like I like to see records broken. I really do. Sorry, Ed. I was in for him to
get in. Say corn is the right person to do real good, thorough
do that. Say Juan, he's right. I don't really know that well.
Oh, you know, go to the Super Bowl. You see a lot of these
young guys. He seemed like a stand up dude to me. I want to
break the record. We're thorough. We're going to be. I want to break the record. Real thorough, real thorough.
And I was going to be the first one.
When he broke the record, I'll be waiting.
And as soon as he broke the record, I'll go hit dial or ED's number.
Oh man.