Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Wemby’s future, Dodgers World Series, Belichick’s girlfriend
Episode Date: October 31, 2024Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and J.R. Smith discuss San Antonio Spurs Victor Wembanyama’s bright future in the NBA and compare him to the likes of Giannis Antetokounmpo. Later, Unc, ...Ocho and J.R. congratulate the Los Angeles Dodgers for their comeback win against the New York Yankees to win the World Series, Bill Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend dresses up as him for Halloween and much more!03:13 - GG Jackson on Wembayana15:45 - Danny Green19:15 - Dodgers win World Series29:28 - Rough Draft36:27 - Dressing up as Belichick43:48 - Q and Aye(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Victor Wimbenyama takes the Chet Hol Hongram rivalry so serious he won't even acknowledge
his name. ESPN NBA writer Michael C. Wright revealed that Wimbenyama actively avoids using
Hongram's name. What's the most underrated rivalry in the league right now?
Damn. I ain't even know that and I I just threw Buddy name in it with his,
my bad, my rubber bad young fella.
Yeah, he won't even mention it.
He won't even mention it.
Really?
He's like, yeah, he look forward to playing
in Oklahoma City.
He looks at players.
It's a great young team.
Oh, they got some good players, yada, yada, yada,
but not one time, because they specifically asked,
what do you look forward to match up with Chet Hungry?
And he went on about that thing.
But I think Chet and the US team beat the French team
in the under 19 a couple of years ago.
And I think that's still in his crawls.
Those things.
Okay, I like it though.
I like the way he approached it, that is the case.
Because it's a very friendly game out here.
And we need some competition like straight.
I don't like you and you don't like me, all right, cool.
Let's bet.
So for me, like I think the best one
is kind of died down a little bit was the Devin Booker
and, where's Buddy, Luca.
That was a good one for me, but I think- I was buddy, Luca.
That was a good one for me, but I think. That was last year they were going at it, wasn't it?
Last couple of years they've been going at it.
Okay.
I knew it was more than,
I just noticed last year that they were chirping away.
Man, Luca looking, I ain't gonna lie,
I like the book, but Luca looking crazy.
That boy is nice.
I thought he could be good because you saw flashes, but I had no idea he was going to
be this.
He's going to be otherworldly.
I'm not gonna lie.
I had no idea, no nothing.
I thought he was going to be a Ricky Rubio situation.
I was not expecting this at all.
Not even in the least bit.
I thought from the very first person that when I saw him play,
I said he moved, he's like Larry Bird.
That's the he can't jump.
He's slow as hell.
But he's going to get to he's going to get to the spot that he wants to get to.
And he'd be busting people ass.
So that was the first person I thought when I saw him play.
I said, damn, he remind me of Bird.
You know, it was crazy too.
And it was like for real,
for when I walked up the morning,
when the first time like I seen him on TV
throughout the year and I went to one game
and I looked at him like,
oh bro, you like 6'8 for real.
Yeah.
Like you're not like, you know what I mean?
You're not like one of those little dudes who just like,
oh no, you a big dude.
Like, so when I see him in the post and all that,
I'm like, how was you letting him post you up?
Like, how was you, I got next to him like, okay.
I see why.
I see why.
But is it because Swishish is that because he's,
he doesn't have quickness,
but they can't time him up
because just when you think you about to block it,
he up and under you.
Or just when you think like, I'm waiting on him,
he'll step back on you.
What is it about him?
Is it his unorthodoxness?
What is it about him that he's able to get whatever shot he
wants, whenever he wants, however he wants?
To me, it's a lot of, uh, it's a lot about his pace.
He plays at a pace to where you can't speed him up
and you can't slow him down.
Like, you can't speed him up into, like, trapping him
and trying to double-team him, because he's just going slowly
crab-dribbble back out of it
Wait take his time and all a lot of that is to having the confidence and knowing
Obviously not coming out the game of being to have free will do what you do and play how you want to play
but He I've never seen one even like Pat Beves
the you know the long lanky defenders,
so many different people try to guard him,
and he literally like, if you too small,
I'm taking you in the post.
If you, you know, if you, even if he's not fast,
he can get to that little step, step back
and throw a little shot fake and dudes jump it
because he's, it's automatic cash,
so he get into the free throw line at will too.
So it's like, it's automatic cash. So he get into the free throw line at will too. So it's like, it's almost,
it's an unathletic version of what James Hart was doing,
but just more efficient, I think.
And if you think about it, you knew like,
his, what was it, like his second year,
maybe his third year, is that he gave PG that work.
He said, Kawhi, you two times defensive player of the year,
bust Kawaii ass, hey Pat Bay of you do a lot of talking,
come get somebody else.
And talking shit though.
Yes!
That's what threw me, y'all.
I'm like, I've been in the round in a while
and I've been around a lot of Europeans,
played on their team and everything,
but like talking shit, like,
y'all, yeah, motherfucker, come get this work. Like, I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
yeah, I'll deal with it, I'll deal with it.
I'll deal with it, I'll deal with it, for sure.
It's hard to get one of those euros, dog.
Maybe over there, like, I play with your Pan Flayers, bro,
and it's so soft, like, you know, back I play with European players, bro. And it's so soft.
Like, you know, they back in the days, bro, fundamental,
like, ah, you know, ah, no elbows and all that.
But now I'm like, between him, Giannis, and, I mean,
Count NB, however you want to call it, and Yoko.
Oh my God.
Yeah, him boys nasty.
But if you look, but you know what, Ocho and Sw swish is that if you look at it most of the Europeans they've always played
Like yokich like Luca you look at the bonus you look at deadly shrimp
You look at a lot of these European players until Yanis
Yanis was the first really the first one to go up in that I mean
I don't really look at a king as you, because the king was over here.
But if you look at like, Yokel, you look at Luca,
you look at Alvita Sabonis, you look at Detlef Shrimp,
Rick Smith, you look at a lot of, they like,
they move the same.
They unathletic, they ain't jumping out of the gym.
They slow, but they're gonna get to their spot.
They're gonna do what they need to do,
and they're gonna put the ball in the basket.
Yeah.
Cause I'm looking at Jokic, I'm like,
he ain't never lift the weight.
He only walk by the weight room.
Luca, he only walk by the weight room.
And then you like,
you look at the stat line,
how he get 60 points with a 20 rebounds triple double switch?
Wait, waking in the hurry, a quiet, be a quiet 62. How he get 60 points with a 20 rebound triple double switch wait
Waking in the hurry a quiet be a quiet 62
man, I say it'd be a quiet 62
Yeah, oh he could score that he's going cuz he could score in bunches
Yeah, I mean you look up and you don't got 20 points in the first quarter. You like damn
Yeah, like I ain't gonna lie. Yo joke the joke is different so he's just I mean
he's efficient and he it's different when you could play a game he plays the game the way I've
honestly I've never seen it played before because it's like he plays so carefree yet he's thinking the whole time as he's playing.
So it's like, he's playing like he don't care, but he understands what's going on
throughout the whole game, who's open, who's doubling from where, but he don't really like, I'm not going to say he don't love it because that's, I feel like
that's unfair.
But it doesn't,
I'm not gonna say mean as much either,
but I don't know how to explain it.
Because the way he goes about the game
is completely different.
Like just being able to win a chip
and just be able to win a chip
and be like, yes, I get to go home.
Like yo fam, what? We just won a chip, yes, I get to go home. I go, fam, what?
We just want a chip.
Right. I get to go home.
Please, let me ask you this.
When you look at I mean, you played like you played in the league with Kobe,
you played with LeBron and KD, Steph does when a superstar win that title.
Are they able to relax more?
And because we start to see, because normally guys win that title, they take off.
Yeah, I think, uh, I think, I think for sure when you have, uh,
fascination with the game, um, and
I can't, I'm not going to throw Kobe's name in there because Kobe was different,
man. Kobe was just so individually motivated beyond anything I've ever seen before, as
well as Bron. And I don't think Bron gets the credit that he deserves for it, but like,
when I got the opportunity to watch it up close and personal for a couple of years
and then like to see it day in, day out.
And it's almost like he's breathing.
Like that's how well it's manicured and maintenance
as far as taking care of his body
and making sure the main thing is the main thing.
And I heard a lot of that is how Kobe approached it
in the same ways also.
But when I tell you like literally no lie,
like this man will literally on an off day
get to the gym at nine o'clock,
sleep in the hyperbaric chamber, cold tub, hot tub,
get shots up, workout, eat, go back on a training table,
go back, get shots up again, workout, lift weights,
get in a cryo chamber, go to sleep,
and do all that on an off day.
Like on an off day.
Like, bro, what is, like, I'm not gonna lie,
I was of the mind
that I work hard, just as hard as everybody else
and I do two of these in the off season, X, Y, Z,
and I got to see this shit up first up and close.
I'm like, oh nah, buddy's different.
Oh nah, buddy is different.
Like this is like, you know, some people who feel like
they eat, breathe and walk the lifestyle
that they would.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Everything else the second fiddle that so so hearing you say that
What he's doing?
on off days I
Take it just by listening at you talk you're not surprised that he's playing this long and he's playing this well this long.
No, I am because it just never been.
We've never seen it.
And, you know, it's just like,
I hate to say it's like just like,
I don't want to see it stop,
but you have to continuously ask this question like,
yo bro, when is this man gonna slow down?
Like, yo bro, fam, you 40. You just had a triple double with a 35 ball?
Yep.
Or some young boys that just out here playing athletically?
Nah, dog.
Like, I can't, like, you know, I'm really thinking about it
and on top of, obviously the rules changing
and the game's changing, I'm sitting there like,
shit, if Tom was in shape,
I could see how he could play for another five, six years.
If you can mentally out think everybody else around you,
you smarter than everybody, you in shape,
you're not really getting hurt like that.
Shit, why not?
He had 26 points on 13 shots tonight, Swish.
Lunch meat.
Lunch meat. Lunch meat.
And who the dude was guarding was 25.
Yeah.
25 years old, 24 years old.
I'd have lied to him the whole life.
He don't know how to guard this man.
Oh shit, I'm really guarding Brian.
He scored on me.
Damn, this thing gave me triple double.
That's how it be.
I seen it.
That's how it be. Danny seen it. That's how it be.
Danny Green went on the running back show
and it was asked, how much better off
is Wimby with Greg Popovich?
He said, Joel Embiid and all these superstars,
I think careers would be a lot different
if they played for a different coach starting out.
Swish, whose career would have been most different
with a great coach?
Mine. Whose career would have been most different with a great coach? my
No, honestly sitting here and think about it with a great coach
I'm gonna say mellow man. I
Think mellow I think Detroit not drafted mellow was probably one of the greatest Travis Deez in sports, man. Like he, he was easily the better player. And with that team, what
he would have learned from Chauncey, Rip, Tayshon, Ben and she, like you got to make
dice coming off the bench. Like you got real live vets to where you coming in
and like, you know what I'm saying?
Just like little shit, like not wearing your practice jersey.
Like that shit ain't flying.
Not tucking your jersey in.
Like the respect of the game is completely different
to where you go to a team where you the show
and like, you know, you come out there,
half your shit braided up, half your shit out.
And people just like, okay, no, he's just being mellow. You come to a come out there, half your shit, bring it up, have your shit out. And people just like, okay, no, he just be a melon.
You come to a team like Detroit, everybody,
oh, you're on a planet.
What you doing?
You enter you out.
And that right there will change the course of, to me,
the course of his career dramatically, dramatically.
Because you're allowed to, not only you're allowed to fail, but you're shown
how to be a leader.
And I don't think he was ever really given those tools to be shown how to be a leader
in those situations.
Congratulations to the Dodgers. The Dodgers beat the Yankees. They fought them five and
they come back and win seven six. So the 2024 made him a World Series champ. I got a bad
for my bad. Go ahead, bro. The Los Angeles Dodgers. Oh Joe, the Dodgers come back and
win it. They won it seven six. The Yankees committed three errors that allowed the Dodgers to get going.
And when they got going, they couldn't stop it.
And congratulations.
We know Freddie Freeman is going to be the World Series MVP.
That's a no-brainer.
That's the easy decision that's ever been probably ever been made in a World
Series or at least a very long time.
I'm sure there have been some others that would have been clear cut, but nothing
as easy as Freddie Freeman.
Freddie had what, three home runs?
Three home runs.
He probably had 10 rebbeys.
He had two more tonight.
But congratulations to Los Angeles Dodgers,
the 2024 World Series champs. That's dope.
The Yanks folded in the postseason on?
Well, this series, the errors killed them.
They committed three errors.
Remember we talked about turnovers.
Yeah.
When you make the turnovers, you got a five, nothing lead. You can't,
you can't commit errors, right? Late in the ball game,
you can't turn the ball over. All turnovers aren't created equal.
All errors aren't created equal. And you know, Hey, give the Dodgers credit,
because it's one thing for a team to commit the arrows.
There's something entirely different for you to capitalize on that error.
Yeah. And the Dodgers made them play.
And that's what you have to do.
Team make mistakes.
You make them pay the ultimate price by costing them the game.
And again, congratulations to the Dodgers, 2024 World Series champ.
They take down the New York Yankees, 4-1 in the World Series.
Whose career would have been different?
Would you say, I'm trying to think, switch, would you say, do you think LeBron?
Let's just say LeBron gets a.
A Steve Kerr or he gets a pop or he gets a Phil Jackson he gets a Pat Riley do you think how different would LeBron has been?
Not very different at all. Not very I feel like LeBron is very I feel like LeBron is very, I feel like LeBron was going to be LeBron anyway.
Okay.
I feel like, and it's crazy because my high school coach, Dan Hurley, a UConn coach,
he told me this when I was coming out, when I was a senior in high school, and I asked him,
I was like, who do you think is the better player between Brown and Mello? He's like,
Mello, I think he can be really good. I think he has an opportunity to be one of the best, one of the, you know,
one of the greats.
But LeBron, I think I don't.
He told me this literally 20 years ago.
He said, I don't know how long he plays.
Like, if you look at his body and you look at his physique
and look what he does on the court and if he's as smart as everybody says he is,
I don't know how long he plays.
I think he could literally play as long as he wants to.
And he said that back there.
And I'm sitting here looking like,
Ro was always coachable.
He was always intuitive about the game.
He was never a person that felt like he knew everything.
He was always wanted to watch film,
watched it anyway, watched all the games.
I used to go to his house in the summertime, like sometimes in high school. And he was like
that in high school. And like, bro, you just watched the games all day. Like you just watched
games. Like he was, he's like, he literally like a sports almanac and this is he can remember,
he like recite it. And it was was like that's which like that's
You know certain people just had a gift and now like yeah part of his gift
I guess just what it is and I'll sit here looking like no matter what coach no matter what other player you put around him
Like fortunately you put great players around him. He'll be obviously rise even higher, but he's gonna be that anyway.
You look at that team that he took to the finals
with Cleveland the first stint, like.
Yeah, that should have never happened.
That should have never happened.
And then I don't think, honestly,
I don't think it'll ever happen like that again.
Yeah.
Like, it's incredible, that's incredible.
With some of the players?
Yeah, there are a few players like that, huh?
And Jay, you think?
No matter what team they went to,
they would still be themselves?
You know, your AI.
But I think when they look at it,
we're looking at, I think sometimes,
I think what Dan is trying to say, maybe ring wise.
Oh, okay, well, you gotta say that.
You gotta state that in there. Yeah. Oh, well, ring wise. I don't think, I mean, if you go off a ring rise, just eliminate
eliminate cold first three, just eliminate cold first three with Shaq airfield and then
just give them Phil and he got two. So if Cole got two chips compared to his five,
where's his greatness in that?
Okay.
That's tough.
There's nobody arguing his talent and how good he is,
but if you don't have the chips, that's where.
That's, and people say, well, you can't,
I say what you have, when you talking about,
because when you measuring greatness, because as you get to a certain level you got to start splitting hair swish
Yeah, I mean it's gotta be there's gotta be a
Differentiation of how we say well who gets to take the next step and then who gets to take the next step
So you got the factor in rings you got the factor in all MBAs. You've got the factor in MVP
You've got the factor in our finals MVP. You've got to factor in rings. You've got to factor in all the NBAs. You've got to factor in MVP.
You've got to factor in finals, MVPs.
You've got to factor in all-star game appearances.
How many times they went to the finals?
So there are steps that you gotta take.
Okay, we got guys that went to like say 10 all-star games.
Okay, boom, we stepped together.
Okay, one went to, well, six times all the NBA, the other was five. Okay, boo. We step together. Okay one with the well six times all NBA the other was five
Okay, we can still step together. But now
One one four five one one for MVP the other one one. Okay, I take another step you stay right here
Okay, you won
Five titles. I won six you take three steps. I'll take two
So we have to have something,
because once you get to that level,
once you get to the top 10 NBA players,
you have to have something that says,
okay, this is why I believe player X is better than player B.
Agree or disagree?
No, I completely agree.
For me, this is why I feel like
the baseball hall of fame is so special
because there's no sugar coating. There's no like, oh, off of how I feel like the baseball Hall of Fame is so special because there's no sugar coating
There's no like oh off of how I feel this is
Who should get in? No, what's his numbers? Yeah
What's what's the what he did? What did he do?
Numbers and that if he didn't do this and he didn't do that then the way why we have in this conversation
And I'm a child. They've been recording those numbers for 150 years If he didn't do this and he didn't do that, then why are we having this conversation?
And I'm sure they've been recording those numbers for 150 years. Baseball has the most sacred numbers because if I throw out 500, you know, that's home runs.
If I say 300, that's either hitting your 300 hitter or you got 300 wins of the picture.
See, football numbers are really sacred because you don't really know, Ocho,
how many rush yards Emmett Smith had. You don't know how many receiving yards Jared
Rice have but you know numbers. If I say 56 games, you know that Joe Devine's your hitting streak.
So those numbers are so sacred and they're there. It used to be if you hit
500 home runs you're going to the baseball Hall of Fame. If you have 300 wins of the pitcher, you go into the baseball hall of fame.
What are the criteria for the NFL?
Ocho is it a thousand catches?
Is it 800 catches?
Is it a hundred touchdowns?
Is it 80 touchdowns?
I don't, and basketball, I don't know.
I don't know what, what is it?
Uh, there've been only a handful of players that ever reached the 30,000.
So obviously if you score 30,000 points,
you're going to the NBA Hall of Fame.
They have rings or no rings?
My only thing is like with the NBA Hall of Fame,
you can get in the Hall of Fame like as an ambassador.
Yeah.
Well, they take everything.
They take everything.
They take college, they take Olympics.
They take everything.
See in baseball, you get MLB. See in baseball you get MLB,
in football you get NFL. That what you did in college because there been some
college player guys that played in the NFL Ocho and you know they had
outstanding college career. But because they weren't that good in the NFL, you ain't
going to the pro football Hall of Fame if you ain't do that thing in the NFL.
It's period point blank. Yeah man we, we need, like, we gotta tighten up
on our Hall of Fame, man.
It's getting out of hand.
Like, even with our, even with the, what is it?
Top 75.
Yeah.
Like, Dwight Howard don't make it.
Don't even get me started.
Don't even get me started.
Come on, bro.
Like, come on.
What we do with him, man.
When we take other cats who just because they relevant,
they still playing, I'm not rolling with that.
We not just gonna disrespect my boy like that
because y'all just feel like he's not worth,
y'all don't like him.
Like, that's not what this is.
Yeah, I agree.
That's hard, man.
Cause like, again, like for me, you're like in the NFL,
like I'll measure like great good and great quarterbacks
by your playoff record.
Your playoff record ain't that.
And like, you not, like, I don't care what you do.
What's boy name for the Chargers?
He had hell of a regular seasons.
Oh, Phillip Rivers?
Phillip Rivers.
He had hell of a regular seasons.
He going crazy.
We get to first game, he out of there.
Romo, he out of there.
Man, he out of there.
I'm like, yo bro, I don't care if you throwing
for 10,000 yards in a regular season.
What that gonna do, bro?
We keep throwing, like come on.
Yeah.
All right, Switch, this is our first segment with you.
We got a favorite, one of our favorite segments.
It's called Rough Draft.
Okay.
I'm gonna give you the rules, which what it is, is that we take turns drafting top five,
depending on the topics.
Normally it's just Ocho and I, but since you you knew, we wanted to bring you into the equation.
So tonight's topic is best Halloween candies.
So you get five.
So you pick one, I'll pick next, Ocho pick last.
That's one.
And then we'll go two, three, four, five.
And then we'll put it into the poll
and we say who has the best Halloween candy bag?
Swish, me, or Ocho.
I'm gonna win this again.
I'm gonna win again.
All right, okay, Swish, you up first.
What's your first one?
Fruity's, the flavor, Tootsie Rose.
Okay, Fruity's, favorite Tootsie Rose.
I'm going the bite-sized Snickers.
Yeah, the bite-sized Snickers is good.
I'm going the bite-ize regular M&Ms.
Okay.
Ooh, I'm going...
Bitesize Skittles bag.
Okay, Bitesize Skittle bag.
I'm gonna go...
In the Reese's cup?
Nah, I'm definitely winning this.
I'm going with the candy jewelry that the kids love.
You gotta think about Halloween,
the kids love the candy jewelry.
They're gonna change the little bracelets.
That's my- Okay, go ahead.
What you got, Switch?
I'll go with the box of dots.
Okay, box of dots.
I'm going, I'm going.
Fun size twix.
Nah, y'all definitely losing this man.
The ring pop man.
The kids got their ring pops man.
Come on man.
They don't get about the, you going your face,
you going to get candy that you got when you was a kid.
They don't pass that inside no more, man.
At all.
He had the little sweet times with this joke,
the sugar packs.
Nah.
Let me see.
Ooh.
Oh, I got, I'm definitely winning this.
I gotta go with candy corn.
I don't know, I don't know.
You just lost, Swish just lost.
Nah, I gotta go with candy corn. Swish't know, why don't I know? You just lost, Swish just lost. Nah, I gotta go with candy corn.
Swish just lost with that damn wax.
Yeah, for sure.
That's it.
Candy corn is it.
I'm going a little, uh,
What if I like?
Oh, the point size Kit Kat.
Nah. Okay.
In the fridge, though.
See, we in the suburbs,
we passed out sour past kids.
That was my, that's where I was going next.
Ah, yeah.
That's where I was going next.
Sour past kids.
Oh man.
See, you brought up the suburbs.
There's one crib on the corner, dog.
It's big, big White House, dog.
They just give out.
They got the good shit, huh?
They give out the extra large Milky Ways
and the three musketeers.
What?
I'm going with the Milky Way for sure.
Man, I hate Milky Ways.
Oh, man.
You know what?
Anybody say?
Last but not least, I'm going with Lil' Nurds.
Okay, Nurds are going.
Nurds are going.
I'm gonna end it with Twizzlers.
Okay.
I'm gonna go ahead and give them a trophy now.
Nah, I got this one.
I know I got this one.
Oh, you got me.
Hey, somebody say, give them, man,
get them kids full side candy bars.
I was at Walmart yesterday trying to find a dead candy, man.
It's just supposed to be there.
So how y'all do it?
Y'all let the kids, do y'all sit it out there
and let the kids pick
what they want or do they let them ring the doorbell and then y'all pass it out?
Why you pass out no candy? Yes. Huh? Don't come, don't come to my doorstep. I mean, you
make sure you got to turn your porch light off. If you got your porch light on, they
come into your porch.
Oh sure.
No, I said, I said a thing out there and uh, just take what you want. And so the last kid,
cause you know, I'm going to turn it off and the kids come out there like, I said a thing out there and just take what you want. And so the last kid, cause you know, I'm gonna turn it off and the kid come up there,
I was like, I said, well, you the last one.
They're like, we can have it all.
I said, take it all.
Yeah, I cut the light on, man.
I'm leaving me a little sign outside.
You know, we've been fortunate and blessed.
So we live in the good areas.
So the kids are a little nicer than where we grew up.
Cause you know, you leave the bowl outside,
they taking the whole bowl.
They might take the stand and the bowls off.
From the jump.
What?
Hey, no, but first day, first moment.
So here's the list ladies and gentlemen.
Swish went with Fruity Tootsie Rolls, Skittles, Dots,
Candy Corn, Milky Ways. I went with Bite Size Snickers rolls skittles dots candy corn Milky Ways
I went with bite-sized Snickers Reese cup fun-sized twig bus that kit-kat and nerds
Ocho's went with bite-sized M&M candy necklace ring pops our patch key in the twin candy necklace funny
So all right guys who had the best Halloween candy bag?
Huh, hey no way, oh Joe win it the best Halloween candy bag. Huh?
Ain't no way Ocho winning. This is a bull dive.
I told you that.
I told you.
I told you. Listen, I didn't want this.
You had probably never beat me at rough draft ever again.
Hey, nah, I don't fool.
Did somebody tell me about some nilators?
Man, that nilator pulled out all my implants.
No, I swear.
Every feeling you got.
Man, I'd be around like a jack-o-lantern.
It'd be Halloween in my mouth for real.
For real.
That's a good job, Breakers.
Hell nah.
Man, I remember I was in a meeting switch,
and you know I had Mary Jane, you remember Mary Jane?
Oh man.
Man, oh Joe, man I bit down that Mary Jane,
down to the whole side of my mouth came out.
I seen the dude that I was with a sugar daddy.
Oh, they had sugar daddy, sugar baby, and sugar mama mama mess with him if you want to
yeah man I walked out of there hey I ain't say nothing nobody man they oh
sure they call me by 30 minutes I said man I'm at the dentist because if I said
something everybody would see oh I got a walk straight up out of that.
Say, have like this.
I said, man, I'll be back.
We're straight to the dentist's office.
Well, no.
Ah.
Dressing up as Bill Belichick seemed to be the popular choice
for this year's Halloween theme.
First, his 24 year old girlfriend dressed up
as Bill Belichick.
Oh Lord, Coach Belichick got a 24 year old
and y'all wanna get on me talking about,
shit, oh, oh, that girl your daddy age,
this and that, that man's how old Coach Belichick?
72?
72, 72.
Hey, he got a 20, y'all can't say ish to me.
Wait, they said that girl your daddy age.
That's what they be telling me.
You like, you got a daughter them girls age.
And I tell them shopping together.
Oh.
Hey, you hey.
Hey, hey, hey, sweet.
I say both of y'all pick out some for your daddy.
Your real daddy and your new daddy.
Hey, y'all better get out my face.
I'm done.
I ain't listen to y'all no more.
I don't listen to y'all for far too long.
They in the same study group.
Yeah, man, I'm feeling bad.
I was like, man, you know what, Ocho?
They might be right, Ocho.
Man, cause Ocho told my aunt, you need somebody, Ocho, they might be right, Ocho. Man, cause Ocho talking about, oh, you need somebody, man,
you need to get somebody your age.
I'm like, what we gonna do, play Benz Wiz?
Gin rub it?
Anopheles? Anopheles?
What's wrong with finding some of your age, though?
What's wrong with that?
Y'all done wrong with it.
Y'all done played Benz Wiz?
Hold up, hold up, I feel like you,
I feel like it's more to this.
I feel like it's more to this. I feel like it's more to this.
I feel like you feel like you might have something in common with them.
Like what's going on?
We got something in common.
Robitussin.
Leniment.
That's what we got in common.
So that's a personal preference.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, I ain't listen to y'all's a personal preference. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, I ain't listen to y'all, I'm done.
Coach Filipek, 72, got a 24, 24?
24 year old!
Damn!
That's strong.
That's my cold, man.
24.
That's strong.
So, all right. Well, let me ask you this. How was strong. Hey, all right.
Well, how you, let me ask you this.
How was the first conversation, how you think it went?
Oh no.
What they met, what they met, what do you meet?
They were on the plane, they were on the plane together.
They were on the plane.
Cause the first thing they say, if you talking,
let's just say for the sake of it, I'm 56.
If they see me talking, they see me talking to somebody
35 creepy old man. Look at all creepy off straight up
Yeah
Straight up Colt Belichick 71 talking to a 23 year old
He probably he she was probably the cart girl on the golf course. I bet it
Hmm She was probably the cart girl on the golf course. I bet it. Coach Belichick, go ahead.
Give it up for Coach Belichick.
Let's put some hands together for Mr. William C. Belichick.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, I already know.
I'm getting some, you know, I'm getting,
I'm by, I already got me a big old Easy Bay Coven.
I got me a Barbie car, Barbie doll.
Hey, I'm in the business.
You ready?
No, I think, look, I think from like half my age,
what's half my age?
28.
Yeah. Plus seven.
That's 35.
Right.
Okay, that's another. Right. Okay.
That's a good number for you though. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,, you know, 33, 37, they got some real, they got some,
I mean, yeah.
They got their shit together.
They tired of the activities.
And you know what?
The first thing they say, what y'all got in common?
Yeah.
We like each other.
We both been to Super Bowl. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha out there, just think about your future person, may not even be born yet.
RC dressed up as Coach Belichicko inside the NFL.
That's too strong.
That is.
Yeah.
Dang, that's 50 what?
How old is he? 70 what?
He's 72, she's 24.
Ooh, what's that?
I already know he only roasts,
I'm gonna send him some of these old roast sparks.
Ooh, 48 years.
He on these roast, he on these sparks.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
See?
Was he married before?
Huh?
Was he married before, or is this like?
Twice.
Yeah, he's, yeah.
See, back a long time ago, 72 year old, it was over for you. Yeah, he's, yeah. See, back a long time ago, 72 year old,
it was over for you.
Yeah, right.
But then it came out with the advent of medicine.
Now you good.
You good now.
See, he better, he better than me, dawg,
cause I'm done doing startups.
I'm done.
I'm done doing startup style.
You know what I'm saying?
He already is. I need a partial investor. You know what I'm saying?
I need a partial investor.
I'm done.
I'm done doing that.
No sir, not me.
Jay, you call him startup?
Yeah, I ain't doing no more startups, dog.
It's over for that.
It's over for that.
All right, guys, it's time for our last segment of the day, and it's Q&A, where we answer some of the fans' questions.
All right, Sheldon Pope says,
Swish, what's the difference between playing with Mellow
in Denver, New York, Braun in Cleveland, LA, and how did you have to adjust your game to
playing with them?
Easiest answer, with Mellow, I had to go get my shots.
I had to go shot hunting.
I had to just wait and it was going to come to me,
the shots was going to come for sure.
So for me, the biggest difference is having to go in
from a go-getters mentality to being patient.
Like that.
Why I said name a movie that Swish, Unc,
and Ocho could have played in.
Name a movie we all could've played in.
Yeah.
Probably.
Hey, Harlem Nights.
Harlem Nights.
Yeah, Life.
Oh, Life is show.
Life would've been, that's a good one.
Lady Ray say, hey guys, as kids,
did you do anything bad rebellious Lady Ray say, hey guys, as kids, do you,
did you do anything bad, rebellious
that you totally got away with?
No.
No, no.
Mary and Barney Porter didn't play that.
I didn't get away with shit.
Wait, what was the question?
As kids, did you do anything bad or rebellious
that you totally got away with?
No, sir.
Today my mama's birthday, she ain't playing.
No.
61, she ain't playing, not at all.
No.
Ma'am, look here, man.
Where you think I get the lack of patience from, Ocho?
Oh.
Oh, that laugh, hey.
God! Oh, that laugh. Hey, the TV is a football foot.
Hey,
keep.
Mm hmm.
They didn't play that.
No, no, no.
Hey, I was like, I said, oh, Joe, I can't relate like people from the north. don't really know but I'm talking about people from the south if you from the south
You know exactly what I'm talking about all people ain't do that
No, it's all that run and all that kiki key in
They play that and being disrespectful talking like these I see these kids talking back. I don't want it
What?
Yeah, you'll be a teeth be on the floor What? Oh! What?
Your teeth be on the floor?
Yes.
Boy, look here.
See, the thing is, like, the old people, like,
my grandma was like, you know what?
I sure wish I was close to that boy.
I sure slapping him in his mouth.
And before you know it, she done walked up on you.
And wah-wah.
Yeah.
And you so, oh, man done walked up on you. And wah-wah. Yeah. And you so, oh man, you so man.
You better not say nothing.
Man.
I can't wait to get grown.
I'm gonna leave.
What?
I can't wait for you to get grown either.
That's exactly what they say.
Hey, you can leave now.
Think they ain't heard you.
I can't wait for you to leave either.
Who call the diapers?
I'll call them for you.
Yeah, man, the old people ain't play, man.
Now that all that kind of stuff
that these kids get away with now.
Oh no.
Like you couldn't like stomp your feet, slam a door?
Slam a door.
Suck your teeth. Oh boy, look Look, oh don't do that. Oh boy
Well, you know what
A lot of my uncle's a past mama, but I wish I'm I'm having my mom
I'm having my mom at one show and she'll tell you how my grandfather was
as you play all that keep that talking back and And she'll tell you how my grandfather was. That's your game play.
All that keep that talking back and sucking your teeth or kissing your teeth.
What's oh no.
Ain't happening.
Oh no sir.
Like I said, I see these kids now and the way they be talking to their parents.
I'm like, I'm like beat him.
Let me start it for you.
Why? Why? Let me get him to go and you finish it up now.
The guy I think because.
Parents today not switch. Correct me if I'm wrong.
We all got kids. I think.
Parents today want to be friends, want to be buddy buddies with their kids
instead of being instead of being a parent.
We not friends. You got friends down the street because the one thing I told my kids
this at a very young age, and I think I told you, Ocho, our dynamic won't ever change.
I'm the parent. You the child.
That's always going to be our dynamic.
100 percent. And so I'm not trying to be your friend.
I'm not trying. I'm trying to teach you how to be an adult and
The responsibilities that come around I was like I wouldn't ride y'all like this if y'all were gonna stay teen
But he ain't gonna turn in hopefully 15 and 20 and then 30 and then what because no matter how the child turns out
Good bad or indifferent who's getting blamed?
the parent no matter how the child turns out, good, bad, or indifferent, who's getting blamed?
The parent. 100%.
The child turns out good, he was raised right.
She was raised right.
A student, prodigy, the parent did an unbelievable job.
The kid turns out bad.
I knew it.
That's just the way it is.
It's crazy, I've seen grown parents,
like I've seen my parents at 35, 40 years old,
hold their composure because my grandfather said it,
so my grandmother would have said it.
But now it's like kids can act out
and the immediate reaction is like,
he's just expressing himself.
Oh, you're, shh.
Well, you are allowed to have an expression.
Oh, no.
Good.
No, I tell you how to feel.
Yeah.
I tell you how to feel.
I tell you the emotions that you should have,
and that ain't it.
At all.
When you like, it's funny,
because I hear the, every time I hear the Bernie Mac skit, I crack
up.
It's like you ever been hit so hard in the back of your teeth click.
Like shut the fuck up.
Like be gone.
It's like, bro, immediately.
It wasn't no thought.
It wasn't no, I got another question.
It was no follow up.
Nothing.
It was like, whatever I was gonna do,
I'm gonna erase that and figure out something else
to get away from these people
because they do not want me sitting right here right now.
No.
It's too, it's too friendly.
It's way too friendly.
I don't wanna be your friend.
And even like, even like my grandfather,
my mom, and them was grown, got kids.
They ain't never, they ain't never buck to my grandfather.
They ain't never buck to my mom.
Even if, hey, we just eat it.
They might be wrong.
You just eat it and move on.
Now.
Oh, you know, he just, you know, I want them to express themselves.
I want them to have an opinion.
Okay.
Okay.
Wonder why he had the school shooting that shit up.
Yeah.
Always in trouble.
Nah.
We just come from a different era.
We just have to accept.
Okay.
We just got to accept.
Now, Swish is a different time now, bro.
And it is what it is.
except not swish it's a different time now bro and uh it is what it is adab smith said met a girl from met a girl from my teammate she invited me to
her dorm room one night as i was picking her up hulk hogan
style i jokingly said you're a little heavier though i don't
know why I said it.
Can I make it up to her?
No, don't come back for that bro.
Now you can't play by the woman's weight, why? No, no, no.
You should know better than that already.
Yeah, but hey, but you should have been able
to assess the situation early.
Yeah.
I mean, I can look at one.
Okay, I can pick up.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, how you gonna pick up and tell her,
oh, you a little heavier than I thought.
Yeah, but you assess that, you can look at it and tell.
I look at me, okay, up to about one eight.
Now, the teacher I used to wear,
when I was ill, when I was well, up to 200, I had you.
Good, okay, okay.
That's the drop down now, probably about 150.
150 that one, yeah.
Nah, nah, nah, you got 185 for sure.
No, no, no, no, hold on, not holding her up.
Holding her up like this, I know, no, I can't hold her.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, I can't hold her no more.
No, hold on, hold on, were you holding her right here
or is she up here?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, I'm just saying. And you only got 30 seconds.
You got 30 seconds right there, that's it.
I'm gonna have to sit you down.
Put him on the shoulders, dog.
He's feeling it, he's feeling it.
For sure.
You know, see, like I said, 250,
I mean, back in the day, I could hold 200.
I could hold 200 for about a minute or two.
Right.
As I've gotten older, the hips done got repaired,
the back ain't as strong as it once was.
But, you know, a 250.
You ain't got but two arms of body fat, you got that.
No, but you have to understand, holding dead weight
is something entirely different, Swish.
I mean, you know, pick it up weight,
because you gotta realize, when you pick up a human,
arms hanging, legs hanging, it ain't like she can help me.
You got a baby boy that thing.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's why I got like 150.
I might, I might in all depends.
If it's something brand new, I got 165 in me.
Brand new 165.
Oh yeah.
That's max.
Yeah, yeah, that's max. Yeah, yeah, that's Max.
That's absolutely, absolutely.
What about Meg though, the stallion?
Meg might be like 175, 180.
Nah, nah, nah, me and Meg cool.
Nah, nah, Meg, thank you for coming on Club Shake.
Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.
My bad, we're gonna accept that.
Damn, man.
I was just saying the size of that.
The hottest, that's what Meg grew.
Man, the hottest almost had me canceled. Nah, man. Oh, nah? I was just saying the size of that. The hottest, that's what Meg group. Man, the hottest almost had me canceled.
Nah, man.
Nah, I want no smoke, dog.
Nah, nah.
Nah, I got you, like what they?
Like two feet, two feet back in the day, you know?
See, people look, they look at, wait,
I ain't say she could be five two and 250,
but she's six foot tall and 250, six one?
Yeah.
Hey man, I had a point guard I played with, dog.
He had a sand dog, she ain't a lady unless she 280.
Yeah, see?
He's a point guard, 6'1", 195, soaking wet.
She ain't a lady unless she 280.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying, old joke?
Like yeah, you know in college, you had one so big,
you know, you had to just pick up one leg.
You pick up one leg, you couldn't pick them both up
at a time.
She's like, pick the other leg up.
I'm like, baby, I'm about to sit this one down.
I'm like, come on.
You went to HBCU, dog.
You went to HBCU, dog.
Hold on, dog.
Both of you.
You know what I'm saying? Hey, you can't pick both of them up. You gotta choose one. One at a time, baby, one at a time. You don't know that.
You don't say you can't pick both of them. You got to choose one, one at a time, baby.
One at a time.
Now come on, work with me.
That's a good one.
You see, you got to understand what you're working with.
Understand what you're working with, baby.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Hey, that concludes our episode of Nightcap Man.
Hey, switch, we gonna have a ball, man.
This was unbelievable, man.
We appreciate you joining us.
Y'all see who it is this episode of Nightcap.
I'm your favorite, Shannon Sharp.
That's your favorite 85.
Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree,
Pro Bowler, all pros, the legendary Chad Ocho,
Cinco Johnson, just call him Ocho.
And the guy in your bottom right is a two-time NBA champ,
one of the great three-point shooter marksmen of all time.
That is JR Swish Smith.
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on all platforms, that Shea Shea Media
and my clothing company 84.
Our newest release dropped over the weekend.
We dropped I was hell when I was whale shirts.
I'll lie for you before I lie to you.
Black nightcap hoodies and popular man back by popular man.
Stay with me now hoodies.
Excuse me.
And of course our best sellers, the Unc and Ocho tees.
Quantities are limited so make sure you grab yours while supplies last.
And to show our appreciation,
we're giving you guys an additional 15% off
if you use the code Halloween15.
The link is pinned at the top of the chat.
And we're upping our giveaway.
We're gonna try and select another nine random people.
And if you make a merch purchase between now and Halloween
using code Halloween15, you'll get a signed Nightcap hat.
Again, additional nine winners.
If you purchase merch between now and Halloween
using code Halloween15, you'll get a signed Nightcap hat
from me.
The winners will be selected randomly.
And we'd like to thank our special
and newest contributor, JR Switch.
Please go follow JR on all platforms.
He has a podcast called Parth 3.
And it's on all platforms.
That's at Parth 3 podcast.
And you can follow JR on all his platforms,
his personal pages, his IG, his Instagram,
his Facebook and at par three podcast.
Swish, thank you.
We'll see you again on next Wednesday.
Ocho, you and I are back at this thing tomorrow night.
Thank you guys for joining us.
We're out.
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Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side and Liar The Volume. yourself.