Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Each Other's Biggest Icks & Conspiracy Theories

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

CC408: Kail and Lindsie share their recent experiences, including a spontaneous trip to Mexico that took a turn due to illness. They share what icks the other one gives them, Kail's unhinged thoughts on aging and mortality, and intriguing conspiracy theories. Finally, they wrap up by discussing which celebrity they should be paired up with, Lindsie wanting to hangout with more lesbians, and somehow they start comparing exes to fast food. Lastly, today's Foul Play reminds us the importance of addressing privacy and sex education in parenting.We've been nominated for a Webby Award! Voting is open until April 17th.https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/podcasts/shows/lifestyleThank you to our sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthFast Growing Trees: Get an additional 15% off your first purchase at FastGrowingTrees.com/coffee using the code COFFEE at checkout. Limited time, terms and conditions may apply.Honey Love: Start spring off right with Honeylove. Get 20% OFF by going to honeylove.com/Coffee! #honeylovepodIQBar: Get 20% off every IQBar product plus free shipping when you text CONVOS to 64-000. By Texting 64000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from IQBAR. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply, available at IQBAR.com. Reply "STOP" to stop, "HELP" for helpProgressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn moreSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kaila and Lindsay. Good morning, kitty cat. Good morning. Good morning. You know, I am back from Mexico and I know I'm so jealous that you went I like to find out like the way that I found out you like you texted me was like, I flew to Mexico just so casually and like on a whim. It was like, I love your life so much.

It was actually casually on a whim. We went to dinner one night and I started looking at my calendar and I was like, should we just like go to Mexico? I love that. And then we booked it like right there. I wish I lived that life. I wish that I'd been maybe one day I will be there.

Listen, I talked about it on the Southern tea, the way that I started puking when we landed. Then I get on TikTok two days later when I come back alive and see all of these videos of these people posting that they got neurovirus traveling to Cancun, neuro, neuro, noro. Specifically to Cancun? Yes, like, noro. Specifically to Cancun? Yes, like I will send you some of these videos

and then I start going to look up all of the symptoms, signs of this and it's exactly what I had. So you spent your entire time in Mexico with neurovirus? All but a day. That just happened. Becky was talking about that in Dominican Republic that they got sick. Leah got sick in Dominican Republic

and then Becky was sick when they got home and a couple of the other people they were with got sick. What kind of sick are we talking? Like, shitting our pants? They thought it was food poisoning but it was not food poisoning. I mean, I don't know if it was or not. But I honestly thought that I got food poisoning from Mongolian beef from P.F. Chang's, but it definitely was not that

that is so specific. Well, because that's what I ate. And the only thing that would have been in my stomach. So airport, I sure did. I am so like, I don't think skeeved out is the right word, but like I'm apprehensive about food at the airport because I don't know how long it's been sitting there. I'm never eating at the airport again, just in case. Yeah. Like it just makes me nervous to, especially knowing I'm about to get on flight. And I also have

a problem with like shitting my pants. So I want to be very careful because the one time I told the flight attendant I think I told you this like I would like looked at her dead in her face and was like I Am gonna like something is not good and I was like I almost shit my pants and she was laughing but like it wasn't funny I never want to be in that situation again. So I'd rather starve in the airport and on the plane. Oh 1000% while I get home yesterday and guess what was delivered and waiting on me? What? My trees from fast growing trees. Oh yeah, I got mine too. It's actually right outside my office. I texted Elijah's uncle, he's my landscaper. I said, hey, do you think you could plant this tree? And he was like, how big is the tree? And I'm like, it's five feet.

tree. And he was like, how big is the tree? And I'm like, it's five feet. Is that big? Um, it's about, it's a little bit shorter than mine. Yeah. Oh, that's not that big. No, but I'm excited because I, I pass these trees like when I'm driving and I think they're so pretty. So I'm excited for him to plant the tree. Listen, I also ordered hydrangeas, 12 one gallon bucket hydrangeas. And do you know anything about hydrangeas? I do. Um, so when Will and I got divorced, I don't know if I told you this, that I wanted to dig up my hydrangeas from my old house. Yes. Because they were Mother's Day gifts. And like, that's very special to me. Yeah, I mean, they it should be, you know, and so I watched them grow from like, birth to where they were. And it just pisses me off.

Sometimes I still drive by that house like a stalker and like, check them out. You should ask them if you can do clippings and then replant them like probably just went in their yard and just started like clipping off the bush. Would you imagine? No, I like because we passed my old house yesterday and they have like the really pretty trees that I bought like in the back and I'm like, huh, like imagine I just like go back there and start clipping and they're like calling the cops on me 1000% would happen to me. But hydrangeas, so you can order them and it'll say it's like one color, but based off of the type of soil that it's planted in, it can change

the color. Oh, so you never really know what you're going to get unless you have an extreme green thumb and you know that like the soil that you're planting in is gonna keep it that color. I love that. I'm gonna order some hydrangeas, I think. Do you even know what hydrangeas are? I do. I do.

My grandma was a big gardener, like a real gardener. Yeah. Okay. Well, I've turned into like this extreme plant person after I started ordering these plants and trees and I'm going to a plant festival this weekend. Are you? I am. There was one in Philly right before my birthday and I missed it. You'll have to send pictures. What would you get if you went? Everything. I mean, I just spent $1,200 on plants. So I would, I would spend, I would just get everything I liked. Wait,

what kind of plants did you get? I got indoor plants, not outdoor plants. So I got like Bird of Paradise, Monstera's, ZZ plants, like just stuff for inside. I've got to get the stuff. I don't know what they're called, but I've got to get the stuff that comes back every year. It's like dormant in the winter and then it comes back in the spring. I've got to get that and not any house plants that are real. But they have ones that have like the water reservoirs. I know but how do you know when to fill up the water reservoir?

You just like once a month. If you can fuck it up, I will fuck it up. Okay, so we have quite a lot of questions to get through from the Facebook group. We're doing a Q&A episode. I'm excited about this. The first question is is what is your biggest it about each other? My biggest it about kale is the way she says tournament. No, it's a tournament. That's the type of like it's that you are going with. Mine is

how you say during instead of during during and during sport during the tournament during the tournament yeah during literally fuck you what about the way I say especially especially is good you say it just fine especially but didn't I use to say it like a different way? Especially, especially, but I think I changed it. I so for anyone who knows doesn't know I have helped with my social media like editing videos and stuff because I can edit very, very, very minimal minimally. So there was this

coffee shop trend on tik tok that I did, but the person that helps me edit my videos put expresso instead of espresso and people were pissed. And I was like, I know that it's espresso, not expresso, but I wasn't the one that typed it. And I was so pissed off because I was like, I know. So that's how I feel when I say things. My ex used to love the way that I say, um, Oh my God, what was it? It was something that you and I both said and he used to love like it. It was a word. Yeah. It was a word that we would say. And he would be like, that's just so funny that you say it like that. What

could it have been? I don't know, but we both said he always commented on it every single time. Okay, next question. Is that like our only icks or do we have? I don't, you don't, I don't have icks for you. Like I do not, like there's nothing that I'm like. Oh, I know another one. And it's like a hypothetical ick actually.

If we went on a vacation together, you would want to go on all the fucking adventures and I have zero desire to do that. And I would want you to lay and talk with me. I will say this, like we have yet to go on a tropical vacation and I would love to do it and then be filming, like have a crew there to film us do set activities because we would have to like carve out time that I'm going to come lay and like bullshit with you. But also I have a hard time just being quiet. Like I have a hard time not being quiet. I

just want to read my books. Like I want, I just put a new Kindle insert in. Like I want to read my Kindle. When we were in Turks and Caicos, like all Elijah and I did was literally sit in silence and read. And then we would take little breaks and like talk. And then we would go back to reading and then we'd take little breaks to talk. And it was literally magical. I love that. Were you so proud of me when I sent you a photo of me reading on the beach? I was so ecstatic and just so excited for you. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. We talked a lot about different topics today and therapy is a great way to get in touch with some of the topics that we talked about, but also to get to

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Wait, is this boyfriend? Mexico Man. Love that. Uh-huh. I want to hear about it. It was about reading. Does he read? No.

And I said, well, maybe you should. Like, as if I'm like this avid reader, right? Like I'm out here acting like I'm a part of book club. And I love that. And I hope that one day you are a part of book club. Okay, so we go down to the beach and I get out my book and I said, I'm going to read. And he was like, no, you aren't. Like, I am. So I start reading. Stand ten toes down on your own business. Yes, ma'am. And I said, I'm going to give myself like a stopping point because if you

want to hang out with me, like I understand that, but why can't we hang out in the same place? And I'm doing like what I want to do and you're doing what you want to do. Yes. Plus it's a self-help book. So it's like, shouldn't you want me to be doing this so I can help myself? No, but that is actually a really interesting conversation that we could have is that there are people that don't want their partner or the people that they're interested in to help themselves because they might realize when helping themselves that this isn't a relationship

or a friendship or, you know, an acquaintance ship that I need to be a part of. And so recognizing that they are in an unhealthy situation might affect them. So no, they don't want you to read self-help books. So the entire trip from the time I was like shitting and puking to reading. I kept bringing up, why are you so upset about me wanting to read? And maybe you should start reading since you're so much older than me and you could potentially get Alzheimer's.

We're gonna go to New York City and we're gonna go do the Pranuvah body situation where we can go see if we have Alzheimer's. What are you talking about? And where did you find out about this? I saw it on Chris Jenner's thing. It's probably like a million dollars. It's $2,500 and it's like comprehensive and you get your results like that day.

And what's it tell you? Everything like literally everything you go into this machine sort of like an MRI. I what's it tell you? Everything, like literally everything. You go into this machine, sort of like an MRI. I'm literally doing it. I don't care. And you get your, you like can download the app and you get all your results. You can find all kinds of shit.

Like people, I'm telling you. Oh, wow. So you go into that and it scans? Yeah, one post 10 days, 854 lives change, finding these like scans, it says 1400 significant findings, 94 of which are life saving, like they're finding things that are life saving. It's $2,500. I went on a podcast a couple weeks ago. And the woman, Saraya, I'm fucking obsessed with her.

I love her so much. She did it and she said it was so worth it and she would do it again if she needed to. Did she find anything out though? Yeah, she did. I don't want to disclose her stuff, but she found stuff. Oh, wow. So I want to do that and I'm 1000% doing it. So, okay, but are we the type of people that we're going to do this and try to like help ourselves or we're not going

to do it because we're afraid of what we might find out. I want to know because I want to die at 60. So like if I'm mostly healthy, maybe I can push that age back to like 70. But like if something is wrong, I might want to die at 60. So like, if I'm mostly healthy, maybe I can push that age back to like 70. But like, if something is wrong, I might want to move it up to like 50. You know what I mean? Wait, what? My like, self suicide, like my like, death wish. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to die at 60. So I if there's something wrong, I'll like move it up. But if I don't like, real like, like you see these wrinkles, anxiety and the level of upset that I am. Like I, I don't, I think everyone thinks I'm joking when I talk about this, cause this is not a secret. Like I've always said, I'm going to die when

I'm 60. Like I do not like the fear of getting old and like looking old and like not having a purpose outside my kids. Because think about it When I'm 60, my youngest babies will be 30. I cannot like what will my purpose be? What is the purpose of life? And then I will look old and I will be out of it. I'll be out of touch. I'll be irrelevant. I'll be a lot of the things that I already am starting like I'm like basically like washed up. Like by the time I'm 60, what the fuck am I going to have going on that? See, I feel like that's really where life might get interesting and get started. You know? It's like, yeah, we might have saggy baggies and like, that's okay, because that's

what people do when they're 60. And they live their best life. My nanny is 81 years old and that bitch is out on the town and the casino like hanging out going to lunch with people but what you just said is basically once your kids your youngest kids are grown and they're 30 then you have no purpose in life and I feel like you probably feel that way because you basically mothered your entire adult life. I also, like my grandparents were my entire world until my mom moved me away from them. And knowing that they were like, essentially like recluse, like my family members on my mom's dad's side

become like very like hermit-like. And I find myself, especially with Elijah, because he's not, I don't want to, I don't want it to like come Elijah, because he's not, I don't want it to come up, he's not friendly. He's not like, he's very keeps to himself. He doesn't like to go out. He doesn't like to be in the scene, in the mix. And neither do I. And especially over the last three years,

I have become hermit-like. I also think about that too. Imagine when I'm 60, my grandparents age, my grandparents never did anything. And so that's where I, I don't know. Do you get what I'm saying? I do, but it's so interesting because when my, I still call them my in-laws, they're my ex-in-laws.

When they retired, I feel like their life got so much busier being retired than working people. Really? Yeah. I just think that you have the opportunity to like do way more things and think about like being 60 years old and your youngest child being 30 and just being able to travel the world and sleep when you want to sleep and wake up when you want to wake up and water your plants and like fluff a pillow. And that is like thrilling to me.

We'll see. I can't wait till I'm 60. Oh, and I thought we were getting a beach house and like all that stuff and that wrecks those plans. So I'm going to need you to change your plans because I'm not changing mine. Wait, I have a funny to tell you. So I was texting Will's dad yesterday and And I said, Let's pray Will and Jackson avoid the neurovirus while traveling. I got it and it's vicious. He said, I saw videos of them

swimming with pigs and eating hot dogs. So they must not have got it yet. What causes it? And what is the symptoms? I said, Oh, trust me, I was told if I said anything more about the hot dogs, I'd get my dick knocked in the dirt. I'm alarmed. It's the worst thing that I've ever had. I threw it for 12 hours straight multiple times an hour. I was looking for a doctor at 430am. I thought it was truly the end for me. And I hope that will knew me well enough to be able to find everything. He goes, damn, I hope you're back on the mend. Are you home yet? I said, Yeah,

I'm home never been happier to see American soil I was looking up to see if I even had a will on my email. Where was he the Bahamas? Yeah, he's in the Bahamas He's still there Willard today Willard, okay next question if Animals could talk which one do you think would be the most rude if animals could talk you think would be the most rude? If animals could talk, which one would be the most rude? Mm-hmm. I think that thing, like, looks like a kangaroo. What's the other thing that, like, looks like it?

Or is it just a kangaroo? I think they're just kangaroos, but they don't look mean to me. Oh, no, they look like they would be a part of, like, the Mean Girls Club. I don't know what, like, a joey don't know what like a Joey is a wallaby. Yeah, a wallaby. Thanks, Kristen. I feel like that's probably the rudest animal. I would say a cat honestly, because they're fucking slick.

And you just don't know what they're thinking. And I think they're calculated. I think they're the plot. And so I definitely think that kangaroos keep coming back to haunt kale. I said I would fight a kangaroo like for $100,000. And people went crazy in the karma and chaos like group and stuff. And they started showing me all these like boxing kangaroos. And I was like, I didn't know they were aggressive like that. Like, why would someone just automatically know that they were everyone knows that nobody knows that nobody knows they square up.

Yes, they know this is that's what I'm talking about right now Like that's why I think they would be like the rudest fucker I Really think that cats would be and like cats I used to have this cat I told you about him sergeant pepper when I was little and like he truly was just everything right like That was the one thing my mom kept constant in my life when I was a child. And Sergeant Pepper was, he would wait for me to come out of the,

like come out of my bedroom in the middle of the night and he would be like prowling. And then I would like after run to my room because he would attack me from behind. So I'd go to the bathroom and he'd like wait until I came out of the bathroom and walk back to my room and he would like get me. So then I start bringing a blanket with me.

This is a core memory. Sarji, aw, rest in peace. He looked like the cat from Pet Sematary, the all gray, like smoky gray one, completely gray, nothing else. Yep. And I used to have to bring a blanket and I would drag it behind me so that he would pounce on the blanket instead of get the back of my legs. And so my mom, she would be like, why, where are these blankets coming from?

And I'm like, I have to because Sargi keeps like pouncing on me. And she had no idea this was happening. Like she was like in her drunkest lumber. Yeah. And so he was like literally the color of this, like, oh, this is like, I'm going to name this Sargi. Um, he, Sergeant Pepper, he was everything. You know what? If I was to ever get another animal, I'd get one of him, but I, I don't want any more indoor animals,

but yeah. So I would say cat would be like, they would be so mean. So mean. I've told you before that, like, I don't fuck with cats at all. There is something about them that is so mysterious and unpredictable. And I like predictability of life, not like stuff that something could happen or could not. You know what I mean? Yeah, but- Like I can predict that Oliver is gonna pee when he gets excited.

I can predict that he's not going to bite anybody's face off. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, that's true. That is true. With a cat, there's just something, I don't know. It's really like how they're built, like with their spines and shit. I mean, you see one and it just like- Arching and tail. Yeah. Yeah. There's something about it that I hate, but I don't think that they would be defined as rude. I think they would be defined as mysterious and sneaky. Yeah. So they're, they just are giving Regina George energy. 1000%.

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What is the weirdest conspiracy theory that you believe? We did not land on the moon. Would you like to explain more? I think there was something that I read that was like talking about how Russia was gonna go to the moon or they did get to the moon. And so we were like, oh wait, we have to do it first. And then like all of the things that,

like there's no wind, but the flag was moving. And then there was like, I don't know, there was just so, I forget all of like the details, but I honestly do not believe that we went to the moon. Because why haven't we gone back? If that's the honestly do not believe that we went to the moon. Because why haven't we gone back? If that's the case with the technology that we have today, you're telling me that we went to the moon back then, but we've never gone back since. I mean, that does make sense to me. So I pulled up this article and it says that that's the

number one conspiracy theory that people believe that the moon landing was fake. And it says the flag moving in the wind, no stars in the sky whatsoever. The misaligned shadows, these have all been points made in the conspiracy theory that Neil Armstrong did not take the first leap for mankind on the moon in 1969. For years, conspiracists have argued that NASA staged the landing, and the secret has been protected by the CIA ever since. I just cannot.

Why have we never gone back since? If we did it in 1969 and technology is absolutely... I think there were astronauts just stuck in space for like nine months. So you're telling me that we have astronauts going to space and stuck there for nine months, but we've never been back to the moon ever again. Nobody's been to the moon ever again. Nobody's gone to the moon. I truly have never questioned the government.

And I know that might sound ignorant to most everybody listening and maybe you until probably the last five or six years. I think that's fair. I don't know if it comes with age. Like, you know, when we're younger, we don't really look into politics the same way we do when we're older or just look at everything differently. I also think like things that have gone on in the last like five to 10 years have really opened a lot of people's eyes.

And I think a lot of people feel the same way. I would feel the same way. I do feel the same way. I do feel the same way. The next conspiracy theory, and I can kind of get behind this, no one come for me, that the government killed JFK. It says there are a number of conspiracy theories about President Kennedy's death, but one of the most popular

is that the government was behind the assassination. Many Americans don't believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. And the biographer Philip Sheehan claims that even Bobby Kennedy thought the CIA was responsible for his brother's death at first. Like what the fuck's going on at the CIA? I don't have an opinion on that. I can't have an opinion on that because I don't know

anything about it. That would be something I would be totally willing to like dig deep into and like retouch on it, but I don't know enough about it. Do you think that the earth is hollow? I thought we learned about the layers of the earth already. I didn't even know that there was a theory that the earth was hollow or not. Is that a theory? Yeah, it's a theory. What do you mean?

I thought, what do you mean? What's the core made out of it says in? 2014 scientists released new unknown findings about the earth's core and let's just say Conspiracy theorists took it and ran with it after learning We don't know much at all about the surface of the earth or what lies beneath its layers The hollow earth theory gained traction and some believers even think that there's earth inside of the earth. So based on, I just literally Googled layers of the earth, right? Okay.

It's the crust, the mantle, and the core. The innermost layer of the earth primarily composed of metals like iron and nickel. Divided into an outer core and an inner core, the outer core state is liquid composition, primarily iron and nickel. The liquid flow of the outer core is is liquid composition, primarily iron and nickel. The liquid flow of the outer core is responsible for creating earth's magnetic field. The inner core is solid, primarily iron and nickel, and the temperature is very hot, reaching temperatures up to 6,000 degrees Celsius. I'm not familiar with this. I don't know if I'm just stupid. I don't know. I've never looked into this ever. Kristin said, what the fuck is happening?

We're doing a science experiment. I mean, what is going on? Truly. Okay. Do you think that the earth is flat? No. Did I briefly believe it while I was like a baby conspiracy theorist? Yes. But overall, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. And I maybe briefly was sucked in down that rabbit hole years ago. I think it was like 2018 or something. But I do not think the theorist and I'm like maybe briefly was like sucked in down that rabbit hole years ago I think it was like 2018 or something, but I do not think the earth is flat like I would love to know people listening to this if you believe that the world is flat and like stationary Then what are all of these?

Like globes and shit that were in our science labs. Like what are those? Because I believe it's like a rotating orb. It is a rotating orb. Yeah, but some people think that it is flat and stationary and like it's not moving. It has to move. I mean, they never like laid down and looked up at the sky. Of course it's moving.

Wait, but question. Now that we're on the subject, why is the sky blue, but then outer space is black? It's like nighttime. No, because like, where does the blue start and stop, and then the black starts and stop and continues. Like when you're flying in the air, and then you get like above the clouds, and then you're below the clouds. So sometimes you just see blue and sometimes you just see a cloud. No, but I'm saying beyond the sky, like how deep does the sky go before it turns black? I don't know. Should we contact Bill Nye?

Bill Nye, please come on Coffee Cover. Bill Nye, the science guy. Where does the sky, the blue sky end and the black? The transition from the blue sky to the blackness of space is gradual with the sky starting to appear darker around 30 kilometers, 19 miles above Earth's surface. And the atmosphere fades out entirely around a hundred kilometers, which is 62 miles, where the car main, car man, carman line, often used to define the boundary of space is located. Okay, but that's not good enough.

Like I no entiendo. No. I think we need to move on from science because I feel like we both failed. Okay. Next question. If you were an inanimate object object what would you be and why? If I was an inanimate object I would be a light switch because you can turn me on still.

Kale? Was that a dad joke? You know I'm thinking like a straw so you can still get sucked on. Um, no, I'm not like talking about sucking and fucking I'm talking like, I would want to be a mattress. So you can get fucked on. No, because oh, yeah. Yeah, love it. Because I feel like I could know so much. Pillow talk, cheating, sex, watching TV, reading books, all the things. Yeah. There's a lot that happens on a mattress.

I would agree. I would agree. I would agree. Kristen said, the bodily fluids though, you need to be a headboard. Okay. Agreed. I would be the headboard. I would be the headboard.

I want to know all the things. I want to see see all the things but I don't want to get fucked. Do you ever wish that you could be a headboard in your ex's house? No, I don't ever wish to know like, literally no. I have a lot of insecurities when it comes to like sex and stuff. Because it's like, contrary to popular belief, I do not have a lot of sexual experience with a lot of partners. Like I can still count on two hands. And it just so happens that half of those people are also my children's father. Yep.

So like, when you think about me at the ripe age of 33 years old, I can still count on two hands. It's not that much experience, right? Like we're talking from the time I lost my virginity to where I'm at right now, four of them I have children with. Okay. So not a whole lot of experience, right? I would be mortified because I would, I think I would be so insecure if I was like, especially

for one of my kids' dads, like who was just like fucking, fucking, fucking all the time. I would, like, it would make me so sad because I wouldn't know to do some of those things, right? Like in some ways it would give me experience and to like know what to do. But in some ways I'd probably cry myself to sleep at night because it's like, oh, I was supposed to do that. All right y'all, spring's here and you know what that means. Wedding season is officially in full swing.

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who would it be and why? I would set you up with Nelly. He's short though. I do love him though. I'm thinking like for me, if you're gonna set, I would say go NFL, NBA because they're a little bit taller And I'm a little bit on the tall side Love Nellie, but I'm thinking maybe like an Anthony Davis, but he's in a relationship

so I would say like something like kill I'm thinking more of Like personality because I feel like you have a very specific Personality and also the tolerance. Like, right? Could you be with an athlete? Could I be with an athlete? No. First of all, I had this conversation in the group chat the other day. The way that my life is set up because I have four baby daddies, nobody's ever giving me a chance, right? In the professional, because they have money and I have money. So they're like, we're not doing this.

They prefer clean track. No man is going to look at me and be like, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Okay. Who would you set me up with? I would say I would set you up with probably like a Bradley Cooper. A Ben Affleck. A I'm trying to think like athlete wise, maybe Channing Tatum vibes. Maybe I was gonna say Travis Kelsey. See, I would want to be with Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. You're lying. You are, Jim Parsons is, you are,

that is not your type, Lindsey Chrisley. Like don't look me in the face and lie to me because that is not- I'm a reader now though. So I feel like- Jimmy, Jim. I need to zone in. I love Big Bang Theory so much.

It's like my comfort show that I watch when I go to sleep at night. I just love it. And I watch Young Sheldon, Big Bang Theory, like obsessed. That is not your type. You're not your I don't know who you're trying to convince yourself. Making my type. No, you know, I feel like my type hasn't really like worked in the past. So we need to like go to a different type. No, you know, I feel like my type hasn't really like worked in the past. So we need to like go to a different type. You know, I would agree with that for both of us. You know,

yeah, I have a habit of being attracted to men that don't give me the time of day, or they are not friendly to approach those the men that I tend to attract, and that I tend to attract and that I tend to gravitate towards is like, oh, they're avoidant. They are not friendly, don't look friendly, don't wanna talk to me, and those are the ones that I wanna go to. See, like I love avoidance,

mainly because I'm an avoidant. I love avoidance because that's what my parents did to me and that is me repeating the cycle. 1000%. Do we think that since we seek out avoidance that we don't want them once we've got them like trapped? 1000%. 1000%.

So I had like two exes in my life that were like so good to me and I shit on them. So I would say yes and they weren't the avoidance no they were the ones that were like so attentive and like nice and nurturing and caring and kind and like all of those things that I did not deserve you got what you got bored yeah it was like what is this yeah like you're giving me nothing to do. Yeah, like you won't fight with me. Do we have mental health issues? 1000%, 1000%.

Okay, next question. How do you cope with negativity on social media? Do you just ignore it or do you have a therapy session? Do you laugh with each other at the ridiculousness of people? My answer to this will be a little bit long-winded because I will say that it's a combination of all of those things. Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry, sometimes I go to therapy,

sometimes I don't even look at it. I think it just depends what phase of life I'm in when I read specific comments or you know, there's, you know what I mean? Like it just really depends on what I'm going through at that time, because there have definitely been times where like right now I'm not getting on and reading anything because people think they know and they have no fucking clue. So I just don't engage. But during my depression, when I was, I guess like right after Rio was born or like during that time of pregnancy, I was going through it. So I was like reading all the comments, making myself stick to my stomach. So I think it just depends.

I feel like I haven't read comments in a long time. Yeah. But I think it takes going through all of the phases of it, right? So you get in the trap of reading and then wanting to respond. And then you finally get to a place where you're like this person Doesn't know me from fucking Adam and the only thing they have to say is like negative shit at all times

Like I can go into my DMS I shit you not and any story I've ever posted in the last like year or Any post that I've posted this one bitch, she comments on absolutely everything. And it's always like, fuck you, or you're the worst. Or my favorite is when people are like, how many baby daddies is this now? And it's like, do you think you're hurting my feelings? My parents didn't want me. My parents did not want me. My mom did not want me. Was not there for me. And you think you telling me I have five baby dads or six baby dads or 12 baby dads, you think that's hurting my feelings?

And it's like, I'm the one that laid down and fucked them. So I know how many dads that baby dads I have not hurting like grow up you know um I think it's really easy to get like trapped into the reading comments like once you go down that slippery slope yeah but once you get to the point of disconnect it's like I don't care what you have to say I'm going to keep doing me every single day and you're the one here talking shit. So yeah, I mean, I like when they like engage on my posts, like I prefer not the DMs because that's not going to boost my engagement. But when they're commenting foul shit, it's like, you're helping me. Thank you so much. Yeah. Tell me how many baby dads I have again. Tell me on every single post. That way I am getting the engagement. Thank you so much.

I also talk about work and social media and just like the negativity that has come from it with my therapist. And she regularly asked me, well, how do you disengage? I said simply that. Just disengage. Yeah. I mean, there was definitely a time in my life, years of my life where I would just read the comments just over and respond and fight back and try to change people's mind. But I think the older we get, the more perspective we have. I don't know.

I just don't do that anymore. Okay. I know this is going to be long winded for you. Oh, no, actually, also me. Um, if your ex was a fast food restaurant, which would they be and why? Because I would say McDonald's because he's disgusting, but you can't get enough of it. And then they have like mostly quick service. So like when he was cheating, he was like fucking

and ducking real quick, like in and out real quick. Okay. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. But like I love McDonald's and it really was a really, that was like a cycle that I really needed to break, you know? Okay.

If I'm just going with Will, I'm gonna say Taco Bell. Why? Because it's like good, but like bad. What you should not be doing, but like you're doing it. Oh, for sure. Like you should not be eating this, but you're going to do it. And like a beefy five layer burrito, like there's lots of layers. Kristen said Taco Bell because you will regret it in the morning. Yes.

Also, while you were asking me this question, this video popped up in my head. It was from TikTok. Jay Cornell got on TikTok and I fucking love him. He's a comedian in New York City and he was talking about a video that ruined his life about being a showing your top teeth or your bottom teeth when you talk. And he is like a chronically showing his bottom teeth when he talks. And so he was trying to talk with his front, his top teeth showing and it just looked crazy. And I was thinking you and me are neither. Like we don't show all of our teeth all the time, like at all. No,

like they're covered. So what are, are we not top or bottom teeth? I'll show you I'll send you the video because I wish I knew. Like I don't think I know. Is that something we're similar at? Yeah, I would say so. Is it the disport? Like is it the Botox? Could be the filler. I don't have filler right now, but I am going to get filler on my lips soon. Like, or is it? Are we media trained enough to not be bottom teeth, talkers or top teeth talkers? Like did we fold into that because of TV? I would love to know, but I don't have the answer. Okay, so we're both going with Taco Bell. Taco Bell, also known as hell. Also, we'll just say all of my exes would be Taco Bell because you regret it in

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What's yours? Best quality about Joe was he motivated me. Every time he kicked me while I was down, I was like, this is why I'm going to end up where I end up. Right? Javi, I would say best quality. He's a very good dad. He's very good coach. Motivational in a different way. Elijah, very, very attentive.

You know what? Like maybe we've been neglected enough in our life that we like the attentive men. Well, see, I, because I go for men that are avoidant, I had the best of both worlds with Elijah, right? Because Elijah is both. He is not friendly and like out there and like in the mix, but then he also is very attentive.

Attentative or attentive? Attentive. Attentive to me, there was the best of both worlds. Kristen said, I need to make, what is that word? Attentive. I need to make a, what is that word? Attentive. I need to make a compilation of all the variations you all have said the word attentive. Okay.

Last thing, everyone wants to hear more about me loving lesbian shit. This was the Lindsay, when I heard this, I could not stop laughing that you texted Becky and said, I love lesbian shit. It's like hanging with the boys. Did you see the clips of us cackling over that? Yeah, I was dead serious. Are you going to the baby shower? Are you doing the lesbian shit? Because I'm going to be there and I want you to be there and I will literally pick you up from the airport and we can drive there. To do lesbian shit together? Yeah. Well, yeah. Yes. The rumors start now.

Right. Um, so I am trying to figure that out because I, do we have our kids that weekend? I do not know. Let me check. Cause are we on the same schedule? I think I do have my, yeah, I have all my kids, but I could not bring the babies. I already told her that. I think it'll be too much, but I will bring my older kids. And there she lives on 20 acres. So like they can like fiddle fuck around and like play and whatever. I just showed up with all of our fucking kids doing lesbian shit.

Wait, so yesterday we're in the car and I played the clip like I was playing it for myself. I wasn't just like we're in the car and I played the clip. Like I was playing it for myself. I wasn't just like out here in the streets, like while and out. Right. And Lux hears it and he goes, are we even lesbians? Are we even lesbians? And I'm like, oh my God, it's so funny. But I think exposing, I hate the word exposing because that's like not the word, but like

letting the kids be around like lesbian shit just becomes like second, like they don't think anything of it. And so he's like, are we even lesbians? I love that. No, some more detail about that. So I just feel like it's like hanging with the boys, like you're having a good time

and it's not like girly shit. Well, I think you haven't been around any fems because there are lipstick lesbians that are like truly so girly like girlier than you. Yeah, I feel like I would if I was a lesbian, I wouldn't be a girly one. I feel like you'd be like a chapstick like me. What's that?

Chapstick in between? Yes. Okay. Is this like a trunk? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that because I think most people would think that I'm super, super girly because I like clothes and I like a clean house and I like, like these things, right? But I feel like I'm kind of like boy-like in a lot of ways. I just think it's so funny to me because the way that you said it's like hanging out with the boys was just so fucking funny to me like I will never get over that. Kristen said do we feel like Lindsay is her own brand of lesbian? Yes. Except she doesn't have a lesbian bone in her body. Remember that one time that we had a conversation and you were like everybody's like a little gay except Lindsay

Lindsay and Kristen are the only two women that I've ever met that are like not a little bit gay Like I'm so straight that I scare myself. Yeah, that's so shocking to me. What do you mean? It's like shocking that you guys are like like I would bet my paycheck that even with like the hottest girl in the room Like you neither one of you would want to fuck Absolutely, not like maybe ask her for some like tips and tricks, but like Definitely not fucker. That's crazy to me. Like you don't look at a girl and you're like, oh, I'd suck on a titty No, no, I know I mean

I've looked at men and been like I want to know what his dick looks like, but they're ugly. All of them are ugly. I just don't necessarily think so. Like you've never seen a pretty dick. I mean, even the prettiest ones are, are absolutely ugly. Like yeah, like if you're comparing it with like other dicks, it looks better than other dicks, but like, is a dick nice looking, like nice to look at? Absolutely not.

See, I like to see it. Just like- So like, I know you're not a porn watcher ever, I'm aware, but like, if you were to watch porn- That's what they look like. Also we have the same nail color, I feel. I love that. If you were to watch porn, what kind of porn would you watch? Um, I would make one.

I would just watch lesbian porn. That's what you watch? But like you'll fuck a guy to lesbian porn? Yes. You know, it's very interesting to me. And on that note, we have foul play. Oh, this is a long one. Hey, kitties. every week I rack my brain looking for stories that I could submit for you all to read, but I've never been able to come up with one worthy enough until three weeks ago. My husband works the night shift. So our alone time is already slim. And we usually

have sexy time during the day because of this. A little backstory, our bedroom door has a fingerprint lock on it. It's rarely closed. But when it is, it's for this reason. Well, about two months ago, our batteries ran dead in the door. And when it shut, oh no. Well, about two months ago, our batteries ran dead in the door. And when it shut, we had to use whatever we could to get in the door until I got to the store to get some batteries.

In this period, we figured out Pokemon cards were the perfect way to open the door by sliding it inside the crack of the door. We did this and our kids quickly learned also. After about a week we got the batteries and it was all fixed. Three weeks ago my husband and I noticed the kids were all occupied with each other and playing and we decided to sneak away for a quickie. We get going hot and heavy in doggy style. All the sudden we hear a card slide in the door and it pops completely open and in comes our seven year old son. Me and my husband scream, he slams the door shut and runs out. We have good communication with our kids and I knew I just couldn't ignore

what he saw. I had told my hubby maybe he didn't see anything. He says we made eye contact, laugh my ass off. We get dressed and have a conversation with him about locked doors and privacy. We also told him that what he saw was something private and no one should see and to not speak about it with everyone, including our four other kids. But we also told him if he has questions, we would be able to answer them. He just listened and we thought that was it. We thought. Fast forward to a week later, our son's biological mom.

This is not the biological mom. That's even our son's biological mom messages me saying not the biological mom. That's even our son's biological mom messages me saying, Wayland got in trouble at school for making a sexual hand gesture in the bathroom at school. We both are so confused wondering what it could be because the principal would not show us the hand gesture. We get him home from school and mom comes to our house to talk with him and his dad. Well, the first thing they ask is obviously what hand gesture he did. It was a finger in the hole gesture.

My husband said, what do you think that means? And he said, putting your bird in someone's butt. Putting your bird in someone's butt. I immediately disassociate and realize where he's learned this from. Bio mom has no idea he walked in on us. I didn't feel it was necessary at the time to let her know. It's been about a week now and nothing else has been said or done but I'm at a

loss on what to do. Do we say anything to him? Do we tell mom that he walked in on us? Do we just ignore it and hope he does? It doesn't get brought up again. I feel so bad for him because I know he would not have gotten in trouble at school if he had not seen us. trouble at school if he had not seen us. I'm just going to say if I was not, if I was not bio mom, I would be absolutely haunted by this and I would not want to tell bio mom, like the fear that would be in me. I'm trying to put myself in a situation where like if Lauren or V were to come to me and say, like, so

and so walked in, I wouldn't be mad. If anything, I would be like, understanding. Yeah, I would probably laugh and be like, damn, that sucks. But like, I'm so open with conversations with my kids, not saying that I have like sex talks with them right now, but I wouldn't be mad or like upset. I would just be like, oh, okay. Like we just have to, you know, come together to make sure that we know what we're going to say if they have questions or like, I don't know, like I wouldn't be mad. I feel like since the child already got in trouble at school though, like it probably does need to be addressed.

But do you think now that it's been a week since then it's too late at that point? Or like do you think it should have been brought up at the point that there was like a, you know, bio mom came over to the house? Cause I feel like that would be, have been the time now that a week has passed since then. I think it would be weird. You're saying that though, as a mom, but the stuff that you've told me about your childhood,

like you've carried that with you and never forgot. So a week passing, like if you have seen your parents like that. But my family, like my mom and like any of my mom's husbands or boyfriends or anything like that never had conversations with me. So that's why I've carried it with me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm going to say a conversation still needs to be had if I was the parent. Okay, that's fair. I think that's fair. Okay, that's all we have time for today.

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