The Secret She Couldn’t Keep: The Tomaselli Recordings | Part 1
00:00Welcome to True Crime Stories with Crime-a-Trorian Linda Roberts is in thisfirst video talking to a man she was dating. She wanted to tell him a secretshe'd been keeping for four years. So she starts off by saying to him, you don't know the pain Igo through over what happened with my father. I have dreams that my father is in the roomand it scares me. And he says, wait a minute, I don't get this. You told me you loved your fatherso much. If he comes back to you in your room in a dream, why are you scared? Her answer is,I can't take it anymore, I'm going to tell you.Then after these comments is when he takes out his phone
00:58and starts recording.To put like six of them in a little bit,because he had a drink every night anyway.Who had a drink every night?My dad.I said, just put them in a little bit of alcohol,six, seven of them,and stir them up.
01:20Because he was waiting for a drink.A beverage? Alcohol?Yeah. Vodka.So, what does she do?She makes a drink this big.Mary Beth?Yes.Instead of making a little drink,
01:37she makes a big drink.Because the seven halcyon,I think it was halcyon that he was taking,which are very strong,would have been plenty enough to just let him go to sleep and and sleep peacefully so she makesdrink this big well he isn't gonna he can't drink a drink this big so i looked at her and i saidyou're fucked up i said she so she already handed him the drink he takes about four swigs of it fiveand in about 15 minutes
02:19his hands started shakinghe was dropping his prayersthat he was sayinghis holy cardsbut I knew he didn't have enough in his systemenough what?of the halcyonwhat is halcyon?
02:35halcyon is a sleeping pillit's strongit's as strong as you can takewait a minute, your father was taking halcyonon his own even though he's losing his mind no the doctor was giving it to him he was prescribing itto him to your father yes but your father was overusing the halcyon he told the doctor i'mgoing to take what it takes to put me to sleep at night and your doctor said his doctor said okay dowhat you got to do yeah and then since you and marybeth knew that he was overtaking it you thought
03:06that would be the way because it wouldn't be suspected that you gave him the halcyon becausehe was over he was overdosing himself right okay so that's so that was your plan so you woulddissolve seven halcyons in the alcohol but instead of putting a right two shots in a cup of vodkashe fills the whole thing up with soda and all this other stuff right made like a real drinkyeah and she answered him so he took enough to to knock him for a loop really knock him for a loopbutthis is very hardfor me Anthony
03:44I knowI've never told anybody thisI guess notand obviouslyI would deny itif you ever told anybodywhy would I tell somebodywhat you guys are going to do
03:55you said the body's crematedyes it's crematedyour father's crematedwe've only been throughan investigationthe policewho investigatedthe police were there
04:03the police of wherewellso let me tell youHe laid down on the couchWait, this was seven years ago?FourFour years ago?Yeah
04:14You killed your father four years agoDo you have to say it like that?Well, but that'sAnd don't just say it to meBecause it was my sister tooAnd Mary BethCorrectWe euthanized him
04:29We didn't kill himWell, euthanasia is not legalWell, it isbecause hospice does it all the time they give you the lethal dose of morphine i've seen it i'vedone it myself so you think that if you take it upon yourself that your father's suffering andno medical but he didn't he was at home he wasn't taken to the hospital you think it's upon yourlook i'm not trying to give you a hard time but did you really think it was upon yourselfto decide whether he should be euthanized i mean they i mean they arrested that jack
05:02He didn't want to go to the place, this beautiful place that he was going to go live in, have his own little apartment.He didn't want to go.He refused to go.But you told me, I asked you in the beginning of this, if he asked for euthanasia, and you said no.Well, in his will, he had a DNR, but you don't ask for euthanasia.Well, you do if you want it.That's why they bring in that Jack Kevorkian guy to help them.But what I'm trying to say is, the very first thing I asked you when this conversation started is like, you euthanized your father.
05:38You said yes.And I said, did he ask for euthanasia?And you said no.We made the decision, okay?Right.You and Mary Beth made the decision.Yes.Your sister and you decided that euthanasia was the best thing for him?
05:57Yes.Because medically wise, I knew with a big giant mass in his lung that he had maybe months to live.And he had lost his mind.Maybe it was wrong.Why do you think I battle every day with it?So anyway, he went to sleep.Okay.We thought he was...
06:22Dead?Dead.And?He wasn't.He opened his eyes.He opened his eyes.And he looked at us.He looked at you.
06:28And I said, now what do we do?You asked her now what to do?Yeah, I said, what do we do now?So then what?I don't know if I can even tell the rest of it.You put a pillow over his face.Yeah, we did.Not a pillow, but we did.
06:44And just what do you mean, yes?By pinching his nose?Did you pinch your father's nose?How did you do it?I can't talk anymore.What do you mean you can't talk?You already told me.This is the only way to get it off your chest.
07:00You've never told anybody.You might as well finish so I know and you know that the truth has been told.Did you pinch his nose and hold his mouth?I mean, that's very personal.That's probably why you're having problems right now, mental problems.Which you do, by the way.You realize you can't tell a therapist this, right?No I can't tell the therapist
07:27And we can't tell anybodyCan't tell anybodyWell anywayThere's no proof of itHe's crematedHe's goneThese ashesThere's no evidence
07:39There's evidenceIf you admitted itIf you walked into the policeAnd admitted you did thatThere would be evidenceWhat if she doesWhat if she goes crazyYour sister
07:48Mary BethIs crazyWhat if she goes crazy one dayAnd walks in and admits itI just deny it.You would just deny it?And you think that would...Do you have to stand there and admit that I killed my father?
08:05Not me, but we did.Who pinched his nose?She did.And did you hold his mouth?I put a washcloth in it.You put a washcloth in his mouth?How can you live with yourself?It's hard, Anthony.
08:22it's very hard but he was he was alive and you ended his life i know i did did you did did youguys discuss money before you did this how you could inherit no it had nothing to do with moneynothing to do with money are you sure we were living with what we saw and a doctor just toldme your father has a massive cancerous his whole lung is full of cancer he may have two months leftto live. But there's been miraclesin the past. Okay, sowhat do you want me to do now?Go confess to the police? I didn't
08:58say to do that. Onlyyou know what will set you free.Nothing will set me free.You can't decidethat a miracle of modern medicinecouldn't have saved him and cleared his cancer out.Never. Never in a million years.You can't decide that. The doctor
09:16said it. He told me. Fuck the doctor.Your father's dying. But he's not dead.you can't end his life you know this you know you can't end a life you know it's murder yes i dothat's murder you i look at you little innocent you and you've actually murdered a personin this world and your own father to boot i've never murdered a person i'm dangerous i'm adangerous individual people start fights with me and i i don't just wrestle with them i pound theminto oblivion and i've never murdered anybody i can't believe it i've even wanted to in the pastI've even thought
09:50So then why do you thinkNow what are you going to doWhat do you meanThat I've told youI'm justI can't believe that youYou murderedNot me
10:00Me and my sisterI can't believe that youDon't put it just on meWe made the decision togetherAs a packShe's a dumbassYou're the ringleaderYou know that
10:09The first person to thinkLet's just euthanize himWas youYou know thatAnd she agreedNo it really wasn'tAnd she agreedNo
10:17That's not trueoh you both said it at the same timeyou went one, two, threelet's euthanizewe both decided at the same timebecause actuallyyou don't know my sistermy sister has a temper ten times worse than I do
10:33you don't know my heartbut why did she have a temperwhy was this ending his life anything to do with a tempershe was mad at himYes, they had terrible argumentsbecause he didn't want to go into Brookfield.So she was mad at him when she murdered him?Yes, she was mad at him.
11:00So that really is murder.I talked to the doctor, and I knew he was dying.But him and her had been fighting since Shirley died.Who's Shirley?The person he was with 20 years.Shirley Tomaselli?No, Shirley Shannon.Shirley Shannon
11:18He never married herShirley ShannonShe never took his nameThey're not marriedOkaySoBut here's the thingYou knew that
11:31That he was gonna dieWell you say you knewHe was gonna dieBut you don't really knowYou heard from a doctorThat he was gonna dieDid you ever hearOf a misdiagnosis
11:39Did you ever hear thatPlease tell meYou've been in the medicalProfessionHave you ever heardOf a doctor amputatingThe wrong legYeah
11:45Have you ever heard him sayingI'm sorry to tell you thisYour father's gottaWhat are you gonnaWhat are you trying to doMake me feelWhat do you want me to doI'm just saying
11:54I know what I did was wrongI'm pissed offThat you murdered your own fatherAnd you said he wasThe greatest guy everHe wasThat's why weI did
12:06We did itBecause we loved himNo you said Mary BethWas actually mad at himSo she was angryAnd she had a temperShe was happy to murder himFor different reasons
12:14TrueI wanted to put him out of his misery.But she was mad at him.True?Yeah, she was mad at him.So it could be said that she did it with malice.You know what I mean?In a way.
12:27So maybe she's more to blame.Like, she was mad and she's like, let's just kill him.I'm sick of his ass.No, we used the word kill.Let's euthanize him.We used the word put him out of his misery.But she was mad at him.You just admitted it.
12:42You said you don't know my sisterShe's got a temper ten times mineAnd they were fightingAnd she was happy to pinch his noseI don't know if she was happyBut at the timeThat was the only thing we could doAt this point
12:58See you don't knowIf this ever got outAnd my family found outI'm not telling your familyWhat the fuck is that going to doIt's not going to bring them backBring them backAre you kidding me
13:23They would probably try to put us in jailWell they will put you in jail for murderI don't even think there's a statute of limitationsOn murderAnd forget about a cremated bodyThat's not going to matterIf Mary Beth tells themShe pinched his nose
13:40and you put a ragin his mouththat's enoughwell we're notgoing to say thatso now you canhate me even moreI don't hate you
13:59I pity youhow can youI could neverI just couldn't imaginewell you didn't seemy fatherokay so you saw himand he was
14:08but it's not your placeI still can't get overAnd you're saying that Mary Beth had a mean streak in her, and I do see that in her.So whoever mentioned about the doctor saying there's a mass and he might die, again, it could have been a misdiagnosis, though.Call you up.Guess what?We found him.It wasn't because he couldn't breathe.
14:27I'm saying what if the doctor saw a mass and then it was the wrong film?You didn't see it.He already had cancer.It spread to the other lung.I'm just saying there was a mis...Listen, why are you arguing?What if there was a misdiagnosis?There wasn't.
14:43But what if there was?Accidents happen, right?I said somebody cuts off the wrong leg.What if they said, oh, he calls you back.It's the wrong film.I'm looking at some...What are you trying to make me do and say to you?I'm not trying to make...
15:00I have to live with this every day of my life.But...Okay, I'm just saying if it was a misdiagnosisand they looked at the wrong filmand they were going to call you back the next dayand say your father's actuallyit's not metastasizingit's actually getting better
15:15he's not breathing for another reasonjust bring him into the hospitaland we'll fix himbut it's too latebecause you put a rag in his mouthdo you see what I'm sayingplease tell me you see what I'm sayingI see what you're saying
15:27okayso you still murdered himbecause he could have went in for medical treatmentyou're not allowed to do thathe lost his mindyou don't know thathe could have got his mind backhow
15:35it's not yourBut he had Alzheimer's, dementia.They were going to put him in the locker room.But he's a human.In a locker room.You can't end a living being's life.I see it every day.Hospice ends living life.
15:48They kill people.No, they don't.They give them the lethal dose of morphine.What are you telling me?Who says they can do that?They do it.On purpose to murder them.Absolutely.
15:58But that's against the law too, correct?They do it.But is it against the law?It's against the law and they do it.You've seen hospice do that.I have seen hospice do it.When you were working for this Dr. Mazur?Yeah.
16:14They overdose you with morphine.That's it.It's ended.You're dead.And they say he died for another reason?They let the morphine wear off?No, the morphine kills him, puts him in the respiratory arrest.But then when they do an autopsy, they just say the morphine is worn off?
16:30They give youYou're in so much painWith cancer or whatever is killing youYou are asking forThe biggest dose you can getI want more morphineOkayAnd they give it to you and they kill you
16:44Okay, whateverGetting back to Mary BethI think when you mentioned he's sickShe probably said let's kill himBecause she was mad at himNo, the word kill never came to meOkay, let's end his miseryBut she was doing it out of malice
16:56Because you just told me she was so mad at himFrom arguingTrue?They argued a lot.So true.There was some malice involved in what she did.So she's more to blame.If I had to say yes, yes, there was malice involved
17:12because they were having horrible arguments.She left for a few days, and I was there by myself with my niece.But I'm trying to say she had no qualms when you said let's.Who first said?Who first said let's?I don't remember who exactly first said let's do it,but we were laying in bed together.where the hell was this where did you guys live where is that in palm harbor right here yeah
17:40in palm harbor florida yes this is only four years ago my dad has lived here 64 yearswhere did you guys live in palm harbor my father we went and stayed with him where was his houseHe had a fella inWexford WestWexford WestW-E-X-F-O-R-DNow what are you doing?Planning on doing something to me?
18:11What do you mean?Because now you have me afraidThat I knew I shouldn't have told youAnd my sister has asked meDid you tell Anthony about that?I said no I have notWhy is she scared?Because she doesn't trust you.
18:26Well, who did she tell?Nobody.And I've told nobody.In this whole lifetime, nobody knows, just you and her, and now me.Listen, I was raised Catholic.You were too, weren't you?What do you think?Yes, I do.
18:48I know about moral sins, yes.You might go to hell.you actually might go to hellI don't know how to undo thatyou killed a personand it was your fatherthat's actually specifically called outin the Bible
19:08in the commandmentskilling your own fatherthere might not be anything worsethis person sired youyou wouldn't be hereYou might go to hellI do, I doWhat am I going to do?
19:28What are you going to do?You're going to suffer?I ask for forgiveness every dayIt doesn't work that wayIt says in the BibleGod forgives who asksReally?For murder?
19:45It doesn't specifically sayNext you're going to tell methat John the Baptistwas a murdererand thenhe got recruitedAnthony whatso you
19:54pulled it out of meand I told youpulled it out of youwhyI amsohow did I pull it out of youI asked you
20:02what the hell is wrong with youand youstarted sayingthere's somesecret I've been keepingthat I've never told anybodyso I asked youI said
20:10tell mehow's that pulling it outyou were willing to talkwere you notwere you not i told you out of my free will yes but i would deny it well i'm not asking youto say it to anybody else if you ever tell anybody else you'll you'll definitely go to prisonand then you'll go to hell i still might you may go be pissed at me and tell someoneI'm not going to tell anybody. And if I do, they can, that's, that's way far disconnected from your own admission.
20:58I asked you to tell me what your secret was. And you said, let me begin by telling you, and I'm telling you of my own free will.I said tell meit'll set you freeso youwere not coercedto make this admissiondo you think it set me freedo you feel better
21:15I'll never feel betteryou stuffed a fucking ragin your father's mouthso he couldn't breatheand your sister held his noseI don't think there's anything worseand I thought I wassomebody who could
21:29like I said possiblyall the fighting I used to door whateverI thought I couldMaybe kill somebody somedayButBut I don't look at it as killing himWhy not?
21:42He was breathingAnd then by your handHe stopped breathingWith a ragIn his mouthLook at these forensic file showsThat I watch all the timeI was telling you about
21:51That's howWe were thoroughly investigatedBecause the hospice was not involvedThe police were there forThey didn't take myThey laid my father on the floorHe was there for 10 hoursBut you told me
22:04the one thing you did tell me about your father is that you tried to give your father cpr andthat's the one see that's a lie you now you have to admit that's a lie you're like i was giving myyes it's a lie i knew he was dead you knew he was dead but you said that the paramedics was deadbecause he had because you killed him because he had peed his pants and i know it was yes i knowwas dead but you did it for more of a show when the paramedics came in you were doing chestcompressions admit it admit it i admit it because then they're saying they used because you told meearly on when i first met you're like this terrible thing happened i had to give my ownfather chest compressions and i couldn't get off of him because i just wouldn't accept that he
22:48wasn't dead at that point it is true i was probably in my mind trying to revive him no you weren'tYou knew he was deadI knew he was deadBut I thought maybeI could breathe him back to lifeSo thatBut youWhen the paramedic
23:04I know I'm a terrible personSo what do you want me to doYou called the paramedicsAnd when you called themThey cameAnd that's when you startedChest compressionsNo
23:17I started them immediatelyWhenI walked over to himBecause I thoughtMaybe really he didn't dieOh reallySo the paramedics got thereAnd you were still doing chest compressions
23:27They had to pull you off you saidBut just two seconds ago you said you admit itI said you were doing chest compressionsJust for showI admit itAnd you said yes I admit itWhat is this judge and jury nowBut you admitted it two seconds ago
23:44You said yes I admit itYou knew he was deadYou were just doing that for showMore thantrying to save himbecause you knew he was dead.You're not stupid.You're not stupid.
23:59But doing the chest compressionswhen the paramedics walked inwas a nice touchto make sure that they thoughtyou were really trying to find him.Well, thanks, Anthony.But is it true?It was a nice touch though, right?
24:10You know better.It was a little bit show, right?Because you knew he was dead.Before the paramedics got in thereand pulled you off,like you said,you said they pulled you off.But you knew he was dead
24:23You knew what you were doingWasn't going to revive himTrue?TrueThis is badIt was only four years agoMary Beth could tell on youAnd I don't know anything about the law
24:37But the statute of limitationsI always heard was seven yearsShe could tell on meShe was involved in itShe did itI always heard the statute of limitationsFor crimes was seven yearsBut I think murder
24:49isisthere's nostatuteso are yougoing tocall thepolice on
24:58meI didn'tsay thatyou thinkI'm aterriblepersonI think
25:08you're aconfused andderangedpersonand mysister istooI think
25:14she hasmental issuesthat gobeyond yoursI think it's derangedThat you killed your fatherWith a ragWell
25:25I've never met anybodyThat murdered anybodyThat admitted itI'm kind ofShocked to be sittingYou don't think there's peopleWe didn't murder himWe euthanized him
25:36Oh my godYou're a smart ladyYou're gonna get into semanticsSee now that scares meThat you have a gunLike you couldYou murderYou're a murderer
25:46No, I would never murder anybody.You used to keep that gun sitting next to your bed saying Ted was going to come after you.I would never hurt anybody.But you killed your father.Why can't you use the word kill?He was alive, and then at your hand, he was dead.Say, I killed my father. Say it.Say it.
26:09No, I'm not going to say it because I don't feel that's what we did to him.I feel like we put him out of his misery.Well, maybe as a result of dying, he stopped suffering.But isn't that called murder?Isn't it called murder when you end a person's life?It's a homicide.You know when a cop shoots a suspect, it's a homicide, and he gets suspended?And they investigate a homicide.
26:33It's a homicide.Now they find out if it's justified.Was what you did called homicide?Yes, but I feel it was justified.Stop it.Was it homicide?Yes.okay it was homicide then you have to feel what's justified the cop shooting the the bank robber
26:51they investigate it they find out it was justified you doing it to your father because he had a massthey may not find out that that's justified they may not think that's justified you could go tothe fucking electric chair here or whatever they do here in florida the lethal injection i don'tknow. Like Ted Bundy. They still have that here in this state. It doesn't matter howold you are. You should be scared. You should be. I don't know how you live with that everyday. I really don't. It's very hard. I can't believe it. And Mary Beth. And she was madat him at the timeto think of you two
27:41over that old man who couldn't moveand her saying yeah yeah yeah let's do itI'm mad at him anywaybut she was quick to do it because you told meshe has a mean streak in herand you said you don't know her tempershe did it with maliceshe might be more to blame than you
27:55there was malice in her heartto end her own father's lifetrue?possiblyshe was mad at himshe had told you she was mad at himShe had no problem participatingWell they were having screening matches
28:10She had no problem participatingIn theEuthanasiaTrue?TrueBecause she was mad at himYou might have had a differentYou might have had a motive
28:24That you really cared about his sufferingShe might have had a little bit of thatBut she had no problem sayingLet's get rid of this old bastardHe just pisses me offTrue?I don't know if I can say that.I just know that they were arguing terribly.
28:40My father was arguing with her awfully.20 minutes ago, you told me, you don't know my sister.She participated in this.She was so mad at him.She, my sister has a very, my sister has a very bad temper that you don't know about.Okay, but that's part of the reason that she participated.True?I don't know her reasons.
29:03I just know my reasons.my father was suffering but if you had to get alzheimer's and he was dying of cancer withhe couldn't breathe right but she was not as concerned to be going through torture andand in the hospital and they were going to do surgery and cut him open andhe was going to die probably within weeks maybe that's not your call but your sisterwas but your sister was angry at him right yes they had been fighting every day so there'sPossible motive thereTrue?
29:40Who am I to judge?Who am I to judge?Because I'm involved in itBut you're smartDo you believe that your sisterPossibly had a different motiveThat she was madThat helped her make the call
29:52To say yeah let's do itI don't knowWhat do you think?I don't knowI don't know what to say to that20 minutes ago you saidI can only tell youThat they were arguing terribly
30:04and my dad was saying terrible things to herand she was saying terrible things to me.So when you're mad at somebodyand there's maliceand you don't mind participating in the murder,euthanasia, whatever you want to call it, homicide,don't you feel that there's a motive of malice?I don't want you to sound like a stupid person right now.
30:24Don't you agree?My sister and I have been through so much.Do you agree that when there's malice,that's another motive?Right now, she hates me to death.Isn't that a motive thoughThat she was madDon't you think she didn't mind pinching his nose shut
30:40While he didn't breathe a little bitAnd got a little bit of reliefThinking he will never yell at her againHe's old anywayAnd maybe she loved him for his whole lifeBut now he's just a pain in the assShe didn't mind pinching his nose shutI don't know
30:54How can I say that AnthonyI can only tell you what I observedBefore his deathyou observed that he was sick he wasn't breathing but you never took him to the hospitalshe was mad that he had been yelling at her right he did go to the doctor he had the chest x-rayand the doctor called me and told me because i was his power of attorneywellso what do you want me to do
31:29go turn myself in and gogo to jailwould you think that would help youno it would not help mewhyyou'd be put on death rowI knowwe both would
31:46do you think you deserve thatnowhybecause I feelI put my fatherout of the miserythat he wasgoing through
31:56and gonna go througheven worseokaythis is more thanI could even absorbI've never beenin the presenceI might have been
32:06in the presenceof a murdererbut I've never beenin the presenceof a murdererthat told methey were a murdererthis isn't brand new
32:12for meand I'm 53 years oldand you're62or 3you're 62 stillOne.Excuse me.
32:26It's terrible.Certainly it's terrible.It's terrible, I know.So what are you going to do?What do you mean, what am I going to do?What can I do?You just said you would deny it.I know that I would never trust you
32:43or Mary BethWith anything delicateBecause you've killed your own fatherI don't thinkIf you did that only four years agoThis wasn't fucking 30 years agoThis was four years ago30 years ago you would have been young
33:02He was calling you your mother's nameAnd he was 87 years oldYes he had Alzheimer'sWas his name Anthony?YesHis name was Anthony as well?Anthony Tomaselliyour father's name was Anthony Tomaselli
33:21yes Anthony Josephand he was 87four years ago he would have been 91 nowthis happened right here in Palm HarborFloridaunbelievablethis isthis is one of those things you see on the
33:39forensic files they remakethe whole murderthey don't care they thought there was aa motive or not they don't care about your motive they care about solving crimes of whoends people's lives it's terrible i'm a terrible person i i i don't know i mean i'm always onewearing the black cowboy hat but i've never murdered anybody and i never thought i couldcome close to it unless they were hurting me or my family i think i could probably do itto protect
34:16but never to end a lifebecause I thoughtit was my rightwell you didn't workin the medical professionfor 30 yearsfuck that Lindathat doesn't give you
34:24begging youto help themthat's notyour placeyou're not Godyou're not judgejury and executioneror God
34:33you know that rightthat's why you fear hellright nowtrueyesbecause you knowpeople aren't supposedto do that
34:43and other people's lives.But do I have a choicewhen my life ends,where I'm going?No.No?I don't.You don't?
34:58How many timesI've asked for forgiveness for it?No.Many.Shit.I got a dentist,I think I got a dentist,what's today's date?
35:09I don't know,I can't see the point.Approximately.Twelve.It's the 12th of February?Wait a minute.What month are we in?February.
35:20Well, my sister's birthday was Sunday the 10th.11th, 12th.Today's Tuesday?Yes.The 12th of February?I'm not even writing 2019 yet.Are you able to write 2019?I'm messing it up and everything.
35:35Like I put, if today's February 12th, 2019,I put February 12th, 2018.I can't stop doing it.It's just a habit.Okay, so now have I ended enough of our relationship for you?I think that what you did was reprehensible.And I just can't imagine you living with yourself.Thanks for watching!
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