Dan Wootton Outspoken - DEEP STATE & MSM BID TO JAIL & DESTROY DANNY TOMMO'S PATRIOTS ARMY & RUPERT LOWE'S RESTORE BRITAIN

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The establishment, deep state and MSM are conspiring to destroy both Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain, and Danny Tommo’s patriot platform army, as they fight to allow the Islamist takeover of Britain continue. A bombshell stitch up in court has left Danny facing a jail term over false racism claims, putting his family under threat. Meanwhile, the bitter Dover by-election between Restore Britain, Reform UK and the Conservatives has resulted in a Green candidate being elected, prompting a war of words between Matt Goodwin and Katie Hopkins. And just after Nigel Farage referred to Restore as fascist, the mainstream media is wading in to deride the party as a hard right cabal plotting to stop Farage. But today, Rupert Lowe has hit back, telling Outspoken the criticism is expected because he is choosing to save Britain and using a new interview to hit out at two of his biggest MSM rivals: Alex Phillips of Talk TV for foaming at the mouth and being too close to Nigel Farage, and Camilla Tominey of GB News and The Daily T for once deriding him as Whopert. We’ll get into it all with the Superstar Panel: Restore Britain’s spokeswomen for women and girls Orla Minihane, and the most senior Conservative in London leading the opposition against Sadiq Khan, Susan Hall, leader of the Tory Group in the Assembly. PLUS: Laila Cunningham crashes out on social media, as fears grow for Reform UK’s Muslim candidate against Sadiq Khan. AND: Katie Hopkins and Douglas Murray at war about the return of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to the UK. We’ll debate. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: YouTube sensation P-Dina joins us to analyse all the developments in a sensational week of royal news. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wharton. This is outspoken episode number 5702. And breaking today, the establishment, the deep state and the MSM, conspiring to destroy both Rupert Lowe and restore Britain, and Danny Tomo's Patriot Army, as they fight to allow the Islamist takeover of Britain to continue. So, a bombshell stitch-up in court has left Tomo facing a jail term over false racism claims, putting his family under threat. So I've just got out of court, and to tell you that I'm frustrated is an understatement. What the establishment are trying to do

is take a simple, civil trespass matter and elevate it to a level where they know if they get the conviction, they can send me to prison. They are saying that because I ask the migrants if they're a part of ISIS, if they're a part of al-Qaeda, or part of the Taliban,

that apparently is a racially motivated element to asking these questions. They also are attempting to publish where my children live, knowing full well that there are individuals in this country that would want to harm me and in turn harm my family. Meanwhile, the bitter Dover by election between Restore Britain, Reform UK and the Conservatives, has resulted in a green candidate being elected, prompting a major war of words between Matt Goodwin and Katie Hopkins.

And just after Nigel Farage referred to restore as fascists... And things being said that by some of these accolides that we've not heard in this country since 1936 and Cable Street, the days of Mosley, and I'm being honest about that. The mainstream media is wading in to deride restore as a hard-right cabal plotting to stop Farage. But today, Rupert Lowe has hit back. Tally now, it's spoken the criticism as expected because he is choosing to save Britain

and using a new interview to hit out at two of his biggest MSM rivals, Alex Phillips of Talk TV, for foaming at the mouth and being too close to Farage, and Camilla Tomine of GB News and the Daily Tea for once deriding him as Hupert. We've seen someone like Alex Phillips who claims you're so irrelevant and you come. Tom, I used to call me Hooput. Who is he? Well, I mean, she's not doing that anymore, and maybe that's progress.

I don't know. But she can't stop talking about you. Alex Phillips almost foams at the mouth now. She used to be a colleague of mine in the European Parliament, and she can speak very well. She's very close to Nigel, probably arguably too close to Nigel. We're going to get into it all. with the superstar panel today.

Oh, great lineup. Restore Britain spokeswoman for women and girls, Erla Olah Minnehane, and the most senior conservative in London, leading the opposition against Sidney Khan, Susan Hall, leader of the Tory group in the London Assembly. Also coming up on today's show, Lely Cunningham, crashes out on social media as fares growth for a former UK's Muslim candidate against Sidic Khan and Katie Hopkins and Douglas Murray at war about the return of Prince Harry and Megan Markle to the UK, we will debate.

We've also got the Royal Uncancelled After Show over on Substack. P. Diner with us today, we're going to analyse all of the developments. This is a sensational week of Royal News. And I think we're close to 50,000 votes, by the way, for the worst Britain in the world today. Still time, still time to vote in the posts tab on YouTube. This is when we put your nominees of the Union Jackass winners from across the week, head to hit. And I mean, it's like the ultimate lineup today.

Andy Burnham on Monday, Angela Rainer on Tuesday, Prince Harry on Wednesday, Megan Markle on Thursday. I'll read out your best comments before the end of the show today as well. But now, let's go. So what is now abundantly clear is that if you try and save Britain from the Islamist takeover, either through politics or preparing for street warfare, the deep state and political establishment are going to conspire to see you jailed and destroyed. Because as we come on air today, that's what's facing both Rupert Lowe's Restore, after another seismic by-election result, and Danny Tomo, who unveiled his People's Army of 45,000

Patriots on outspoken this week. It's no coincidence that within days of that interview, there is now a monumental judicial stitch-up going on. A courtroom stitch-up to see him jailed for untrue claims of racial aggravation, a situation he believes could leave him dead if he ends up behind bars. Now, before the court appearance, he'd, did have a degree of hope. Good morning. So this morning, I'm in court in Marguet. The reason I'm here is because of my activism and I make exposés in Dover.

I did what I did to bring you, the public, some of the truths of what's happening on the South Coast. And I think it's vitally important that you saw what you saw. And do I regret what I did? I'll be honest. No, I don't. don't. And would I do it again? Yes, I would. But after the court of parents, Danny revealed how the deep state is now trying to send him to jail by suggesting that his trespass prosecution

is actually in some way racially motivated. So I've just got out of court and to tell you that I'm frustrated is an understatement. What the establishment are trying to do is take a simple, civil trespass matter and elevate it to a level where they know if they get the conviction they can send me to prison. They are taking a simple trespass matter of which it was and they are trying to add racially motivated parts into it so that they can use that to sentence me for a long-term prison sentence. They are saying that because I asked the migrants if they were part of ISIS, if they're a part of Al-Qaeda or part of the Taliban, that apparently is a racially motivated element to asking these questions.

When I said, this is not Somalia, this is England, apparently that is a racially motivated part of this. When I was originally arrested, I was arrested for one simple thing because I was on harbour board land and I'd been asked the day before to leave and I'd return the next day. At no point did they tell me I couldn't return. They simply told me the day before that I had to leave. And if I didn't leave, the police would have the authority to arrest me.

My defence is that you at no point told me that I couldn't return at all. But now they realised they have to elevate this to a level to make it worse than it actually was. They also are attempting to publish where my children live, knowing full well that there are individuals in this country that would want to harm me and in turn harm my family. Tom was convinced that this is the establishment

to shut down his Patriots Platform People's Army, which he revealed has half the sign-ups now of the official British Army already. The establishment of trying everything they can to try and put back me into a corner to prevent me from moving forward with everything that we are doing. Well, let me tell you now, this be it what happened in Dover or what we're doing with the Patriot platform today has shown me

that they are very worried they are worried about people standing up and having their say they're worried about people waking up to the injustice that is being put upon our country and the establishment are trying everything to try and shut me up luckily I was able after being advised by this lefty lawyer to go guilty on all counts which I refused to do, and I was nearly coerced into doing that, what I can tell you now is, luckily for me, I went against all the advice, and I've luckily managed to have this adjourned. And now, in October, with the right lawyer, I will fight this tooth and nail.

Thank you for all your support. And I think the reason why so many people have been inspired at the moment by Danny Tom, who is then immediately after that, he went to meet with the members of the Patriot Army in Kent. So after today's shenanigans, straight back at it. Today, obviously being in Kent, it was my opportunity to meet all the Kent boys. And they definitely turned out Kent Patriots. As you know, these lads here will have, you know, it's on their front door. On their front doorstep.

So it's important at these boys, a big part of everything we do. And as you can see, in a second, Kent boys, like that Patriot platform. Come on! Come on! Well, I'll have a good chat with these boys in a bit. Now, what's been so interesting about this explosion of the people's army is that Tomo thinks it represents a disillusionment from patriots about politics.

You've just said something positive about Rupert Lowe. He has said a lot of positive things about, for example, Tommy Robinson compared to Nigel Frudge. Are you suggesting that you're more in favour of Restore Britain than Reform UK? I would tell you that at this point in time, I don't believe anyone because it's never come to fruition. I've heard all of this from many people throughout the years' politicians. Yes, OK, maybe Nigel was a different at the beginning. but they're bankers. I mean, we need to have dramatic changes. And I just don't believe that these men right now are saying the right things.

They have to put their egos aside. They have to join together. As a person, I think RuPaul is a good guy. I don't buy into any politics right now. I'm buying into what I'm doing. I'm taking a infrastructure of men from this country, and I'm going to deal with the issue on street level. It's up to the politicians to convince us,

in two and a half years to vote for them. And I will take this infrastructure of men and women and I will turn it into a voting block when the time comes. And that voting block could potentially throw your weight, for example, behind Reform UK or Restore Britain, depending on where the political land lied. They're the only two viable options I see in the future.

I don't see anyone else coming in. And so perhaps the one man who stands in the way of some type of street army being the only solution is Rupert Lowe, who told outspoken today on these new and growing attacks on Restore Britain, welcome to trying to save Britain. And in a just broadcast interview with Lauren the insider, Rupert has made it clear he's not backing down. He is not backing down against the MSM,

mocking his two biggest rivals in the establishment media, Alex Phillips of Talk TV for foaming at the mouth and being too close to Nigel Farage and Camilla Tominey of GV News and the Daily Tea for once deriding him as Hoopit. You've seen someone like Alex Phillips who claims you're so irrelevant and

Well, Camilla Tomé used to call me Hooput. Hooput, who is he? Well, I mean, she's not doing that anymore and maybe that's progress. I don't know. But she can't stop. talking about you. Alex Phillips almost foams at the mouth now. She used to be a colleague of mine in the European Parliament and I, you know, she can speak very well. She's very close to Nigel,

probably arguably too close to Nigel, has always been. Whether he's offered her a receipt or not, who knows that the offer of seats is very often the glue that holds these sort of parties together. who knows who seats have been offered to. But she almost foams at the mouth in sort of biblical terms when she hears my name these days, which is quite extraordinary. I haven't spoken to her for a while. The last time I spoke to her,

she was trying to persuade me not to judge reform too harshly for trying to send me to prison on the back of two false witness statements. So Rupert is fighting hard and he knows he's going to have to, especially against the extremist characterisation, which has now been led by Nigel Farage himself, and what I believe is a deeply inappropriate comparison

to Lowe's party and the 1930s fascist. Here he was on Mike Graham. I mean, we could have done better. There was a bigger restore vote that I thought. But I think even there, I think the truth is beginning to come out. What Rupert Lowe says, and what the acolytes around him say

are increasingly becoming two very different. things and there is quite a sinister edge. There's quite a nasty edge to come. To some of the young men around him there is a very, very sinister edge. And things being said that by some of these acolytes that we've not heard in this country since 1936 in Cable Street, the days of Mosley, and I'm being honest about that.

Rupert can say what he likes, but the fact is the parties increasingly being run by people who, who are bringing a certain toxicity into politics, which can only ever be a minority opinion. But you can expect a lot more of that after last night's bombshell Dover by-election result. Here it is.

Here it is. A win for the Greens. 28.8% of the vote. Just beating out Reform UK, 27.5%. But then look at the split. The split on the right. 17.1% voting for the Conservatives and storming in for the first time

with 10.7% of the vote, Restore Britain. And so sure enough, we're starting to get these MSM attacks now from the I newspaper, not going for the Conservatives at all, but Restore Britain. They say little was expected of restore when Lowe broke with Nigel Farage to set up his own right-wing party, yet Lowe's project has defied expectations and proven a thorn on the side of Farage's Reform UK. And the newspaper reported that Lowe has recruited a group of mainly young men from the digital network of hard right commentators and influences often referred to as the online right. So of course they talk about Charlie Downs and the controversy there. They talk about Josh Fern of the Lotus Eaters, who's now part of the party too and his previous characterization of Kemi Badernock as not

being English. He said a piece of paper does not make you English. Having English ancestry does. And so the eye paper actually asked though whether he agreed, D'Anok is a foreigner, if he supported remigration, and if he agreed that Sunak is Indian. They also asked whether he was happy for these views and ethno-nationalist comments to be expressed by people working for Restore or associated with it. And the spokesperson for the party said Restore Britain has outlined our immigration policy and wider platform repeatedly. The media continues to entirely ignore that, yet takes any opportunity to smear the Restore Britain name.

We want a mature and fair conversation about the comprehensive policy. policy propositions that we are putting forward to the British people on deportations, the cost of living energy, and much more. But this is just the beginning, because pollsters are now waning. This is really interesting, actually, from the Uber establishment Westminster Outfit Politico, which does concede that Nigel Farage knows he has a restore problem. And this is because new polling, shared with Politico, shows a deal. between Reform UK and Rupert Lowe would put off some former conservative voters from voting for the party. But that's not the most interesting figure, okay? They'll bury the lead here, but I'm

going to take you through it because there's a lot of new revelations in this article too. So a source close to Farad saying they would like to work with us because Lowe needs us to survive in the long run. But Lowe's deal comes with conditions. We know all about them. So Luke Trill of more in common which conducted the polling on the right-wing packs, said a deal with Restore would be more likely to damage than bolster reform's fragile voter coalition. Some reform voters are open to those messages, but they risk deterring the wider pool of voters that reform would need to win an election. It seems that a pact with Restore would cross too many lines for reforms wavering voters who want a distance with figures, this is their words of course, on the hard right, like Tommy Robinson.

So this was a big survey. 2128 adults conducted between the 7th and the 10th of August. And it claims that a Farage tie up with Restore would trigger a significant drop-off in support from respondents who voted conservative in 2024. That metric drops from 45% open to reform to 39%. Some reform voters also put off by the prospect of a Restore pact. The poll suggests 93% of voters who backed Farage at the last General Eleanor. would do so again without a Restore Pact, the figure fell to 83% with the prospect of a low

turnout. Overall, the polling suggests that a Restore Pact would reduce those willing to consider voting reform. And this is tiny. I mean, this is margin of error stuff. This is what I'm saying. Now, burying the lead here, from 32% to 30%. Now, here's what's interesting. The survey found that up to 20% of Brits would consider voting restore, including half of those. who voted reform at the last general election. That is one in five after just a few months. Here's what's even more interesting. Restore is particularly popular with those who didn't vote at all in 2024. And this is what Rupert has been saying for a long time. With some 53% of non-voters in the survey saying they are considering backing Restore. Politico goes on. Advises on both sides

of the right-wing divide, said the pair haven't held talk since Lowe published an image of a WhatsApp message Farage sent him and accused him of outright lying. For Lowe's part one, Restore official argued the ball is in their court now, pending hopes on fresh pressure to agree a pact coming if Restore reaches higher polling ground. I suspect if we continue climbing in the polls and scoring well, and their decline continues, then pressure may increase. But what we're actually seeing now is a total meltdown. A total meltdown today after the Dover result, which Politico reported in typical anti-restore fashion. Restore failed to win. Its first council seat explicitly under the party banner rather than his great Yarmouth first overnight. Instead, Restore settled into its more familiar role. It helped

deny reform and air certain victory by splitting the right-wing vote. Green Party candidate and local GP, Ingrid Dodd, won with 767 votes ahead of reform on 733, while Restore finished a distant 5th on 284. And then you cue the usual from the reformers, like my friend Darren Grimes, who has actually used an AI picture of Rupert Lowe and Zach Polanski to write, a vote for Restore is a vote for the left. Matt Badlos, you know who I mean, you know who I mean, added the right vote in Dover last night was 55%, but the Greens won. Why? Because Restore and the Tories handed the seat to the left, this is what they will do

in countless seats at the next general election, vote, restore, get the left. So this is the coordinated message coming from Reform UK today. However, Katie Hopkins stepped in, and remember she backed Matt Goodwin in that by-election in Gorton and Denton. She told him, this is your interpretation, Matthew.

An alternative perspective is that many restore voters would never vote reform, They were politically homeless until a moderated meeting is held in private and in confidence to form a working partnership. You were shouting into the wind. And a lot of this does ignore a fundamental point, and this is what has frustrated me today. It was explained again by Restore's Charlie Downs, who said, wouldn't be an issue. If Farage hadn't kicked Rupert Lowe out of reform, embraced the establishment, alienated many of his core voters, and refused a cooperation agreement with Restore. marking how much things have changed in UK politics in just two years.

He added two years ago, Harrison Pitt and Connor Tomlinson and I were discussing the need for an arms race within the British right in which the various factions and parties compete to outbased one another on policy. This is now happening and the establishment media is terrified. Good. Watch. I'm now of the view which is sort of fed by what you were just saying, that it would actually be much better if Genrick wins, because if Genric wins, what you might get is a very, a mutually reinforcing arms race. arms race going on, where Farage will feel they need to outbid.

Generate from the ride, General feel the need to outbid. Farage from the right. But Rupert Lowe has made it clear today. There is no way. Restore Britain is even countenancing standing down. Here's what he said. Restore Britain is six months old. We just achieved our best election result.

Best ever election result outside of Great Yama, the 11% for Jez-Hirma and Guston, Kingsdown and St. Margaret's Actcliff by election in Dover. massively outperforming national polling. No other party has shown such rapid growth. We're the fastest growing political party in British history. Other parties have historic support to rely on. We have none. Every single one of those voters was earned by Jess and his team through hard bloody work. To those who screeched that those voters arrogantly belonged to someone else, I say this, earn it. We all had our chance to put forward our offering to the electorate. Jez did exactly that and one substantial support for doing so.

I offered to work with reform on the correct policy platform they refused. The offer remains on the table, but the reform leadership have made it clear they will not work with us. That is their choice. Restore Britain is on the march. 7% in Makerfield, 9% in Greater Manchester, 11% in Norfolk, 11% in Dover, 46% in Great Yarmouth. Restore Britain has breached the 10% mark in local elections. From now on, we will be standing in a lot more. We are just getting started.

And now the superstar panel. And it is brilliant to have with us today, the Tory lead fighting Sadiq Khan on the London Assembly, conservative sensation, Susan Hall, and restore Britain's spokesperson for the safety of women and children, Alla Manny Hayne. So, all a look, the right totally divided on this, especially after the by-election.

I mean, there is, There's a lot of fury aller, too, not just from Reform UK supporters out and out. Like, look at this from Kelly J. Keene. I mean, I'm assuming you imagine she is a big sort of women's right advocate as well. And she has said as a result of this by-election result, the right are fucking insane. I hate every last one of them who are prepared to sacrifice our country for their egos. Is she wrong? No, she's not wrong. She's not wrong.

Hello Susan, hello, hello, Dan. My best people in politics. Do you know what? It's very, very difficult. And I'm sure that Susan will probably feel similar and a similar way to I. The fact is that we are literally crucifying ourselves. And the ones that will suffer ultimately

will be women and vulnerable people within this country. because the Greens are going to, the left are going to continue to have open borders. They're going to get rid of, you know, they're talking about prisons. They're talking about, you know, not having people convicted for crimes. They're talking about Class A drugs. You know, it's just an app. It's terrifying for any normal sane person the thought of a green part, a green government. Now, will the Green win if there was a general election, no, but will Labor get back in?

Most likely at the moment. And the fact is, Dan, if we do not do something catastrophic on the right, now whether that be an alliance, whether that be, you know, stepping down in agreement or just some kind of sensible alternative for the voter, we are going to crucify ourselves and we will end up with an election, we will end up with a left wing party and we will end up with another four years. And by the end of that four years, Great Britain, as we know it will cease to exist. And that is fact. Now, we all have our allegiances. I have mine to restore. Susan has hers to conservative. You know, and we all ultimately want the same thing. And we are not going to get it if we do not sit down and be adults about this. Now, there are things that I don't like about different parties. There are people I don't like in different parties. And I'm sure the feeling is mutual. But we have got to put egos aside or the country is finished. Security will be an absolute nightmare for women and girls, and that is my prime

concern. And I am absolutely terrified that it's going to get worse and worse. So, Susan, what do you think a likely solution is, though? Because actually, if you look at that result, I mean, everyone is coming for Restore Britain today. But actually, if the Conservatives had stood down, Reform UK would have easily won. But your leader, Kemi Bay. Adonok has said this week, Susan, the idea of some type of coalition between reform and the Conservative Party is monstrous. The trouble is that, you know, if you look at it, everybody's got a right to stand. Count Binface has got a right to stand. This is our democracy. And so if you look at Rupert and Nigel, they're both real characters.

They're both, to be fair, big. egos you have to have if you're running a political party and they will say, why should we stand down? And I can see it from the political side that they wouldn't want to do that. Equally, I am horrified that the Greens get in. I dislike Labour intensely and we can see they're utterly useless. They don't know what they're doing. But they're not quite as dangerous as the Greens. The Greens we should all be frightened of because, you know, there'll be nothing left of this country. Can I just ask you a little bit more about that? Because you have the most fascinating perspective on this,

probably more than anyone in British politics, actually, because your two direct rivals and the men who you go viral for attacking on a regular basis on social media, on Elon Musk's ex, Asriq Khan, the Islamist mayor of London, who is destroying this capital city. I'm very clear on that. But also Zach Polanski, the tip whisperer, the Green Party leader nationally because he is a member of the London Assembly.

So from being up close with both of those men, you actually say you think Polansky is more dangerous than Khan? I think Polanski's policies are more dangerous. Well, all is just giving you a whole list of things that they stand for. Polanski is not a green person. I never, obviously, the Greens aren't something that I would ever join. but they used to be tree huggers. They used to wring their hands over net zero and all the rest of it.

Now that's not what they are at all. If you look at some of their policies, they are dangerous for this country. And on a personal level, Susan, they have both been ghastly to you on a personal level, haven't they? I've seen a lot of claims of sexism by both Sadiq Khan and Zach Pallanski in terms of the way that they conduct business with you. Yeah, but do you know what, Dan, it's water off a dark's back. I've gone into politics. And when you're in politics, especially as you go up the levels, then you can't, you can't scream that the people are nasty to you

because that's just a fact. If you don't like it, then don't take up politics. I hate it. It's just amusing given that it's the be kind left, isn't it? Oh, they like to look as if they're kind and they're being kind, and that's the problem with them. They, you know, that, oh, we're such righteous people, you know, But they're not righteous at all.

They're absolutely vile at times. But the Greens' policies are so dangerous, so very, very dangerous. What did you think, Susan, about Sadiq Khan doing this pilgrimage to Mecca? And coming back after the Hage and he had his hair shaved and he said that there is now going to be an even greater place for him in heaven, Susan. This is what he told the Daily Telegraph, because he's doing God's work. What do you think he meant? And do you think that was an appropriate trip

for the Mayor of London to make? To be fair, it's his religion. And that's what they do in that religion. And I haven't got any problem with that at all. They shave their heads for a religious reason. Forgive me, I don't know, because I'm not of that religion. So if he wants to do something that all Muslims want to do at least once in their life,

then I have not got any issue with that at all. And what about these, what about the coming back though? And within weeks, all of a sudden we're seen at Marble Arch. And we had also seen it in Trafalgar Square last year. What your colleague at Westminster, Tory colleague Nick Timothy,

has described as a mass display of domination. And I was looking at these so-called, because they call these religious, as well, Susan. But what you saw at Mar Blanche was the women separated out from the men. I know. And I've gone to mosques and given speeches and been segregated. That is how they do it.

If they do that within mosques, that's their business. Just as how we behave in a church is a Christian. Exactly. But this is on the streets. Exactly. Exactly. That is the difference. So I'm not knocking the religion and if he wants to go to Hodge, good on him. That's his own private time, private business. I haven't got a problem with that. The picture you're showing now, stopping all the traffic. This is London, Susan. This is London. Yes. And on that, I disagree with it. What you do in your church, your synagogue, your mosque or your temple, that is the religion and that's fine. That's separate. But I am not happy when streets are stopped with people praying in the road. I do not find that acceptable and that is totally separate and that is completely different. And I don't agree with that myself and I don't like segregation. I feel and I know all are and I feel exactly the same. Women's rights, we never quite got to being equal with men

in many people's eyes, but we were getting there. You know, things were changing. Now, when people can't define what a woman is, when we have trans rights, surpassing women's rights, it is unacceptable. Women in general, their standing is going backwards. And that's not good enough.

And I tell you something else. I just saw something just before I came on here. And it's a Notting Hill Carnival. Because they know so many, don't even start me, but because they know so there are so many sexual attacks during the carnival, the police have now got little areas where women can go that they might be safe. That is damn disgusting, that is. If you know that there's a carnival or event where women are sexually harassed all the time and worse,

then you do something about it. You don't just carry on and say, go into that corner woman. You might be safe there. Let me just before. you come and all right. I just want to play this video because what Susan is referring to as an actual official sort of boast from from the metropolitan police. Watch this. A safer space event where women and girls who might feel sort of vulnerable in carnival, unfortunately there are incidents of sexual assaults, can go and be supported in those areas. And again, just work with

the partners to make sure that we can deliver a safer school of carnival. We're working a lot with other agencies as well to emergency services supported by City of London Police and also British Transport Police I mean this is just disgusting Susan actually only just before I come to you Susan you have in the past said that this event should not be held right that it should be moved I just want a band

I'm sorry am I am I crazy Susan this is this is like a crime hotbed there are hundreds of stabbing and attacks Imagine if that was the Tommy Robinson Unite the Kingdom Rally. And we're meant to pretend this is normal. I just want it banned. I don't even want it in Hyde Park anymore, Susan. I just want it banned.

Well, politics is about compromise sometimes. And perhaps if it was ticketed in Hyde Park or something like that, the people that went, first of all, could be checked for knives and everything else as they go through. At the moment, there's absolutely no way you can check the people that come in and out. They could also pay for it. as opposed to the taxpayers. And I don't blame the police here. The police are really very much under what Sadiq Khan says.

And Sadiq Khan plows money into it every year. Absolutely upgrade. So you would say it shouldn't be able to be held in an open event like that, but it should just be moved to Hyde Park. Ola, can we not just ban the thing? Seriously, imagine if this was a right wing. Imagine if this was the pink ladies. And there were like hundreds of stab.

You would be in jail, Ola. I'm not even exaggerating. You would be in jail. They wouldn't be hosting this event. To be honest, Dan, the way I feel at the moment, that is not unlikely that that will happen, but that's another story. But to be fair, I have never been to Notting Hill Carnival.

I have always been pretty terrified of what goes on there. I've heard some horrendous stories. I know people that take their children there, which I find absolutely bizarre. When Notting Hill started, it was a cultural festival. It was about West India's and, Jamaicans and, you know, and they were going and they were having their day and fine, absolutely fine. And it was peaceful and it was fun and there was food and whatever.

Again, I never went, but I heard good things. Now it is literally a free for all for assault, for stabbing. Every disgusting scum bag in the country makes their way there. Why would any woman in their right mind go and especially take your children? I mean, to be fair, I think social services should be there to take the children away. if they're taking them and putting them in that situation. It is a vile, dreadful event that is basically put on and people go and think, I can do what I want.

And you know what? I won't be nixed because if I do, I can cry racism. Absolute nonsense. Susan's absolutely right. I always agree with her. Tick it, put it in an event, you know, and make sure that you can then, if anything happens, you know, who did it, what they did and when they did.

And make it safe. This is the thing. we have now got to a point, again, look at this, machetes, I mean, this is literally the Notting Hill Carnival. This is literally images from Notting Hill Carnival. It looks like the Brickston riots, right? And that is literally what we are inviting and saying it's cultural, you know, it's a cultural event.

It is not a cultural event. It is an event for disgusting scumbags to come and sexually assault and stab each other. I mean, God Almighty, this is London in 2026. You look at that. It looks like some kind of barbarian festival in, I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's crazy. And Susan, I mean, this is not something that is whipped up. So they try and say, I mean, I heard everything they said about you, Susan,

in regards to this when you first spoke out about Notting Hill Carnival. And I backed you at the time. But they tried to suggest that you were in some way being racist or that this was in some way irresponsible. So what I did because I was actually preparing for this festival, because of course we're broadcasting on Monday live and that is expected to be the day of peak violence. But I just compared the figures right. And actually, Notting Hill Carnival last year

was one of the safest it's been in years. But compare this to Unite the Kingdom. There were 528 arrests over just two days. There were four stabbing or slashing incidents, 21 arrests for sexual offences, 50 arrests for the possession of offensive weapons, 55 arrests, Susan, for assaulting police officers. There were 7,000 officers deployed. Then you had drugs, robberies, and other violence.

Susan, I want to compare that to unite the kingdom in the same year, where there were 23 to 25 arrests, 26 officers injured. And clearly that is terrible. but in the event in May, Susan, there was even less violence. 20 arrests. Nine of them were linked to hate crime, which basically meant that people were holding up banners, right? That's what those arrests were actually for. And four officers were assaulted.

So the pattern is crystal clear here. The Notting Hill Carnival gets kid glove treatment, millions of extra funding from Sadiq Khan, a whole load of spin, while a patriotic march gets wall-to-wall condemnation. And the figures aren't even close. I mean, those figures are not even close. These are different worlds.

Yep, and that was a good year. Last year was one of the... Yes, it was. But what we must remember is that the police have to go. And police officers have to go to this. And every single year, police officers are injured. They don't always have to go to the parades in London or the United Kingdom marches.

but they are all, their leave is stopped all over the bank holiday and they have to go to it. And I tell you what, it lends itself to a crushing event, a major crushing event with over 2 million people going in those tiny narrow streets. You know, we can but worry. All is right. Why anybody would take a child there is utterly beyond me. I have been and I have been scared when I've gone there. The last couple of times I've been, I've actually been with. with the police because I'm on the police and crime committee.

So we go and see how it's monitored from various offices, etc. But I wouldn't know more dream of going for pleasure than, you know, anything else. Absolutely no way. It's dangerous in my view. I meant the violent Notting Hill Carnival Reform UK's Muslim London mayoral candidate, Leila Cunningham has decided to launch a bizarre campaign video trying to attract youth, the youth vote,

in order to beat Sadiq Khan. Now, despite the fact that she used to be a Tory, Leila actually accompanied the video with this text on X. A vote for the Tories is a vote for Khan. Watch this.

What's your thoughts on being in a cold position to beat Sadiq Khan? Just getting started. Yo, I've been ghosting you because I'm working. Like, what do you really expect money of death? Cute and sweet OK. Charlie Downs of your dress, man of your talk, give me respect, it's hurting you because I've got the effect, man of your talk, give me respect. Don't let this get to your hair.

Charlie Downs of Restore Britain simply replied to that post with a Reform UK logo. But then with the UK's felt in that way, of course that is a term used to describe the current makeup of modern Britain, where traditional English culture is eroded and replaced by high Street is dominated by chicken and pap shops, urban grit, delivery riders, and mixed language signage all driven by the cultural impact of mass migration. Layla is being mocked, though, because that claim about the Tories does feel particularly rich, even Larry the cat getting involved, writing Cat Check, you are a Tory, and you backed Liz Truss. And look, the photographic evidence to prove it. But I had different issues with Lela Cunningham. Actually, I really do.

I don't trust the woman. I do not trust the woman. I think she is a plant. I think she is practicing Tikia. And I think I've got good reason to judge her, given that she has tried to deride my very honest criticism. And by the way, I want her here. I want to have a conversation with her.

I haven't banned her from this show. Yet she goes on other platforms to deride me as far right. Dan Woodson has suggested that you're somehow some sort of possibly, quote, possibly an Islamist. and reform of... Capitulated. That's the word. That's your response to that.

Number one, they're not the right, they're the far right, and I don't even think that they're far right. They're just, you know, the thing is, I don't see myself. She also called the aforementioned Charlie Downs of Restore Britain and Neo-Nazi on GBI news. They had to apologise.

I mean, they're talking about, if you're not white and Christian in this country, you're not British, right? They're going back to some kind of, like, neo-Nazi Aryan race. If you're not white, I mean, I've heard their spokesperson, on talk TV and on TV saying if you are not white and Christian,

then you're not deemed to be British. But the irony of all of this is she doesn't like being called a Nazi herself, does she? James O'Brien crossed the line today. He compared me to Lord Ha Ha, who was a Nazi sympathiser, hung in this country for treason. And the reason why he compared me to him was because I had the audacity to agree with people in New York and Chicago who said that they were scared to come to London because it was more dangerous.

Imagine that's a mother whose mug, whose son was mugged at knife point, a former senior crown prosecutor, being compared to a Nazi sympathiser. And then she went on the Daily Tea podcast and pretended that she didn't know who could have possibly called Restore Britain neo-Nazis. She sees a liar too.

And it is the perception that reform has gone overboard in criticizing Rupert Lowe by, for instance, one of your party members describing Restore as a neo-Nazi party, I can't recall which one that was. I don't know who that was. Right. I don't know. Who wasn't Leila?

And you wonder why I think she's practicing Tequia when she claims to not even know what Tekeia is? I was a bit shocked actually that they called me an Islamist and they say this word Tekea, which obviously I've never heard. Right. I've never heard of it. Right. Is this where you're pretending to be assimilated? Apparently so. But really you're part of a global conspiracy

to convert Britain to Islam and establish a calendar. You're an agent of Iraq. Apparently I can say whatever I was. When she's under pressure, she does get pretty shalty, Ms. Cunningham. British people are not going to vote for a party that only believes you can be British if you are white and Christian. I have a second. A 17-year-old kid said that. No, Charlie Downs has been on your show.

He said that. He did say. Christian values. He said the word values. So if you don't follow Christian values, you are not British. Is that what you're saying? I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. Is that what they are saying? For me, that's how I took it an interpret. I think it's basically the races of most of our laws and junior Christian traditions. So yes, he is kind of right. We kind of live in a secular government. How well is that going?

Do you say we're not secular? We should not be secular? Well, I don't think we are. I think this is the point of the restore kind of bringing to the front is that yet we have religion. We're not a secular state. You wouldn't? Yeah. Well, we are. No, we're not.

We are. We don't have people of fact. We're not a secular state. We have a state religion, therefore we're not a secular state. The difference between a secular and a non-secular. We don't have people of the church. We are not a secular state. She stormed off the Pears Morgan Show.

I'm sorry, because I have to go. Why is that no problem? Why is somehow Muslims a problem? I would ask, too. I'm not going to sit here. I'm not going to sit here and argue with this guy who has no idea what he's talking about. I'm Muslim.

I know millions of Muslims like me. And we do not like radical Muslims coming in here and getting over the Iraq. He can't. that maybe he should go and visit some house. The treasurer of your party, Nick Candy, is in the Epstein files. Did he know Galane Maxwell? What's your response? And, and, has he done any wrongdoing?

And? What's your response? And, has he done any wrongdoing by being? The question is open. He met him for a business deal. Right. We're not talking about, number one, we're not talking about Nick Candy. We're talking about immigration.

How is that related? Of course. You cannot argue your argument. So you're picking on random stuff that have. no relevance. I got to go. Bye, Pear. Sorry.

That's exactly what you're doing. She then went on the Daily Expresso podcast to say she would never go back on the Piers Morgan show. Guess what happened a few weeks ago? Will you go back on there over again, do you think? No, because I think they've lost my trust, you know. I don't mind, listen, show the full debate, but to clip it in that way and to release that as the trailer to show that I left early, I think it's not great. Maybe it wasn't.

But you've gone back on. Layla Cunningham, so you will go on peers, but you won't appear here. There's also car crash debates when she's challenged on a Tory-hating hypocrisy. In 2022, when you stood as a Conservative candidate, Boris was the Prime Minister. If you felt that he was betraying Brexit, why did you stand? Because I stood for my area, for my community. Crime was rampant because the Tory's left. Hang on, excuse me, if the Tories are so bad, why is reform your care filling themselves full of them?

I can't answer that. And no. No, you can't. she has struggled in her duty of defending the Messiah Nigel Farage. Why has the money that he received when he was politically active as the chairman of reform but not elected, why was that not declared? Well, because he wasn't an MP and he didn't need to declare it. But he was politically active at the time. No, I mean, being the chairman of a political party is like an honorary role. He was not politically active. And you know, he was the chairman of a political party.

Yeah, he was a, I mean, he was a social media influence. and he was a GB News presenter. Whilst also the chief executive of a political party? Yeah, but he was not politically active. There was also a car crash with her natural ally, Julia Hartley Brewer. You don't even have spokespeople on some of the key subjects like defence. Do you think it only comes down to spokespeople? I don't think seriously being really...

I think having candidates in place who are betted... Nigel's the best person to speak on defence. Is he? Yeah. He is. Okay. What's your defence policy? I'm not going to go through the defence policy here right now. I'm not the defence... Because the party doesn't have an official defence policy, has it? What's the defence policy of labour? To underspend, underfund and keep us and keep us and keep us unsafe the borders?

Absolutely. Terrify. So what's the reform defence policy? You know what our defence policy is? To enact the first duty of government and that is to keep this country safe by all means. And that is that is tens of billions of pounds and where is that money coming from? Well, that starts with controlling the borders. That's a good start, yeah. You want to get rid of net zero? I'm not going to go through. It's not a gotcha moment that you're trying to catch me out.

Not to mention out of control behaviour interrupting live on air political interviews. But you've got a problem, haven't you? Andy Vernon, 50% of people say they like him. Only 25% of people say they like Nigel Farrow. That's a problem. Do we really believe this woman is the person who's finally going to, boot out, Sadiq Khan.

Leila, what's your thoughts on being in pole position to beat Sadiq Khan? Just getting started. Yo, I've been ghosting you because I'm working. Like, what do you really expect?

Money of death. Cute and sweet. Okay, okay. I love how your dress. Man of your talk. Give me respect. It's hurting you because I've got the effect. Man of your talk.

Give me respect. Don't let this get to your head. To the Superstar panel, Restore Britain's Alla Minnie Hayne, a former member of Reform UK, And Susan Hall, who is, of course, the Conservative Party lead in the London Assembly, battling Sadiq Khan. She's talking about you in that video, Susan, a vote for the Tories is a vote for Khan. What does she want? Does she want you to stand down? Should she maybe stand down?

Maybe Lela is the one to beat Sadiq. I mean, she's a Muslim. What do you think? If you look at the local elections, they thought they were really going to do very, very well in London. And they didn't. They thought they'd, I mean, they took over Havering, but that was mainly from resident associations. If you look at Bexley and Bromley, they thought they'd absolutely take charge there and they haven't. They thought they'd do exceptionally well and take over in Hillingdon, and they didn't. I saw that report that reform were likely to come second to Labour in London. And I'm sorry, I don't believe it. If you look at the council elections,

that is not going to happen. She also, you're quite right. I mean, I know Leila from when she was a counsellor. She actually doesn't know how the GLA works. And if, you know, when we get nearer the mayoral election, she's going to be under some real pressure and stress because she will be asked specific questions on London and she doesn't know the answers.

So you're saying she's unsurious? She's uninformed. She's got a lot to learn. It isn't as she thinks it is. And so when you get somebody really starting to ask her questions, like Julia Hartley-Bruer did there, she collapsed. She collapses and then she starts shouting at people.

She's mainly on G.B. News, who quite, you know, as they are with anybody from reform, they're very gentle with her. But when she comes across people, I do like Julia Hartley-Bruhe. When she comes against them, or to be fair, to Michael Gove, who, you know, he is no fool.

She just, she'll just collapse because she doesn't know the answers. Yeah, I mean, all you knew Laila Cunningham during your time in Reform UK. What's she like as a person and what do you make of this sort of strategy of trying to appear, I guess, what, down with the youth, like sort of a rap? Yeah, is that really going to work? I don't want to get into personal details because I think that's unfair. and I, you know, and I don't, I'm not about bashing other women. I don't think that's fair either.

I think that if Susan was running, I think she would win the mayoral election, but that's because she's a serious person. But I think that the, I think, look, we have to understand that the mayoral, the mayor of London is a very serious job. It is looking after one of the biggest metropolis, metropolises in the world. there are millions of people. It's very diverse. It is, you know, one of the top tourist destinations in the world. We've got immense issues around security. You know, there are so, the list is endless. It is not a joke. We do not need a rap star. We do not need Nina Cherry, you know, joining or being the mayor. We need a serious person. I do not believe Sadiq Khan is a serious person. No, he's not. We need somebody that is a strong leader who has got an, and his his or her absolute eye on the ball who can control spending, control security. All of these things that are so important.

London was once the most powerful, commercially prosperous city in the world. It was the safest city. People used to come to London. Everybody dreamed of coming from London from around the world. Now they avoid it like the plague because it is unsafe. It's dirty. You know, people hear horror stories. You go out and you've got thousands of Muslim men, you know, with women at the back praying in the kind of dominance that we've seen. This is not okay. We need a serious, serious, hard-hitting mare. And I'm afraid that just because Layla is a Muslim woman does not mean that she will take on Sadiq Khan. I think that they looked and thought she's a woman, she's articulate, she's bright, she's Muslim. Yes, she's going to really be able to take on Sadiq. I'm a Unfortunately, the Muslim population of London will not vote for a Muslim woman.

I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. Okay, so you say Susan Hall could beat Sadiq Khan. And actually, Susan came much closer at the last mayor of election than a lot of people thought. And Khan is diminished. And maybe it won't even be Khan. It might be like an absolute joke like Dawn Butler.

God help us. She's just not a serious person at all. I mean, I think Khan is a serious person. I think he's a dangerous person. But he is a serious person. Now, Susan was actually a member of Restore Britain when Restore Britain was a movement. Yes.

Rather than a political party. Why not the idea of a conservative Restore Britain joint ticket in London? Could that happen? That's never going to happen. I think she was going to say that. Because, firstly, I won't be standing for the conservatives. The conservatives will have a whole new round of different people. So that's number one.

I will never not be a conservative. I've been a conservative and worked for the conservatives all my life. I do think that I hate to see us all fighting on the right and allowing the left to come through. That breaks my heart. But I am further on the right than an awful lot of conservatives. I do believe in doing something about next era. I think Kerry is completely right.

Whilst we have to aim to get there, it's costing us all a fortune. And of course we do have to leave the ECHR. We've got to deal with these immigrants coming in because no wonder we're short of housing, you know, no wonder we've got massive welfare bills, and no wonder things are going wrong. because so many people coming in from different cultures who do not understand our culture

for them to have to be handed leaflets saying rape is wrong, that should spell it out to all of us. And the thing is if you get a small trickle of people from different cultures, you can try and integrate them. When you have an influx, the sort of which we are seeing, there is no time to integrate people. And I'll tell you something. I was on a doorstep knocking a while.

back and somebody said to me, what do you think about lots of people from different countries coming here? And I said, well, as long as people integrate. And she looked me square in the face and she said, no, you should be integrating with us. 100%. This is what's happening, Susan. This is what is happening. I played a whole load of videos on yesterday's show, including a man who'd been pulled over by the police, the white English police, and he said, I do not follow your law. I will not follow your law. We are now Sharia law. All I wanted to ask you, you've been, this has been so sad for me to see. Yeah, here it was. This was so shocking. But all of this has been so sad for me to see. We covered on the show last week how you are absolutely being put under

attack by the left. Sly News ran this awful hit piece on the brilliant pink ladies and we covered it in a lot of detail. And Lucy White responded. And of course you expect that from Slyne. news. But this week, you have said that you're actually getting a lot of attack from restore supporters as well. And this is because of a video that was clipped and put online about female genital mutilation. You say you're referring to the 43,000 girls who are mutilated in this country every year. I want you to be able to respond to this all about. For people who don't know what we're talking about, this was the 22nd clip that went viral. Now, we've got to protect our girls, but we have to remember that there are Indian, Asian girls, Pakistani girls, Bangladesh girls, Somalian girls, who are born here, who are suffering this fate every day.

And we have got to protect them also. Now, Connor Thomason responded to that video by saying the reason people have an allergic reaction to all his message here is because it implies British people have a moral obligation to save the third world from the above our... practices to fulfill that obligation would require they stay in our country. That's not what you were saying, was it all? No. So this is very dangerous. What happens is you go, Susan will know, you go to different branch meetings, up and down the country, people ask you questions and then you respond. Now, what's happened is this has been taken out of context. Let me explain. A lady in the, sorry, a gentleman in the audience, this was in Gateshead near Newcastle, or next to Newcastle, He said to me, my daughter-in-law is a Muslim girl. She was a victim of FGM when she was a young girl. She now cannot have children. It is the greatest regret for her that she cannot reproduce. And her husband, my son, will ever be able to give us grandchildren. What are your views all are on this extreme practice? That was the question. My response was, this is a really awful, dreadful,

brutal, a brutal thing that goes on in this country. And it is happening every solitary day. It costs the NHS 100 million every year to repair these girls. And then what happens is they're in the NHS in the health system. And throughout their lives, they have infections. They can't have children. They dying childbirth. All of these things. It's horrific. Now, what I said was any 10 and 11 year old girl that is brutally, savagely, mutilated in this way with generally no anaesthetic and a blunt knife, we have a duty of care to those girls to protect them from their own culture because they cannot protect themselves. Now, I stand with that and I don't care about this extreme right pylon that I've had saying, we need to protect our girls. We need, of course we need to protect our

I spend every day of my life shouting and pushing the agenda to protect our girls. But whilst a young child is in our country, most of them born here, now regardless of what their parents did, regardless with their parents integrate or Muslims or whatever they are, whether they came illegally or not, the parents do not have any, should not have an influence on what that child has to go through. We must protect children. They cannot protect themselves. It is our duty as British people.

We are not barbarians. We are decent, you may people. And as a Christian woman and a mother and somebody that advocates for women's safety and children's safety every solitary day, I will not stand down on this. It is absolutely barbaric that anybody would say that we should not look after. Children from other cultures who are being brutal. on our soil and that is how I stand.

And, Ola, what did you think of the Reform UK people who have tried to use this to suggest that you made the wrong decision from defecting? I'll just give you one example, but there's been a lot of this. Lee Hurst, he's a total Farage propagandist, but he wrote, Oh dear, looks like O'A has just found out who she has hitched her wagon to. Choose better next time, Ola, maybe do some due diligence before you climb aboard. Right. So I'm going to answer that very clearly. I joined Restore because I respect Rupert Lowe. Rupert Lowe is a good man. He is a father and he is a grandfather. And I know without any shadow of a doubt that he thinks the same as I do about this subject and about women's safety.

He is a fantastic man. He is not a misogynist. He is a kind and decent gentleman. Now, I have, you know, whatever the term they used, I joined Restore. because of Rupert. Now, if anybody else in the party, members and all the people on the left and the right of the party have got an issue with that, then they speak to Rupert. Rupert backs me. Rupert respects me and he respects the women of this country. And if these people online have got an issue with it, have it out with Rupert. I'm not interested in engaging anymore. Well, Sid. Well, Sid. Alla Minnehad, and I know how much work Ola does behind the scenes to fight for British women and girls all the time. And I think it's been really, really unfair actually to see that sort of attack. But of course, as Rupert Lowe told me earlier, welcome to trying to save Britain.

This is what happens when you try and save Britain. They come and try and pull you down. Breaking today, growing divide in Britain over Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return and a worrying suspicion, I would say inevitability, that we the British taxpayer are very shortly going to have to pay for their security costs to the tune of £5 million a year. But it has been fascinating to see the right of British politics divided on this issue. Katie Hopkins is absolutely clear that none of our money should be used to protect these two grifters. Harry and Sparkly Pants. back in the UK. They arrived by private jet. They're going to set up base in the Cotswolds, two kids off to British schools. They're going to keep them on to Cito Palace for when they

split up. And they've got their holiday home in Portugal. The question, who's paying for all of this? Harry has a 35 million pound legal bill because he harassed the Daily Mail. He doesn't have a job. They don't have any purpose. So who's footing the bill? We sure as hell hope it's not the British taxpayer. And unfortunately, it is heading that. that way. News today, revealed by their propagandist at woke ITV Chris Schip, that Harry and Megan have actually gone above the King's request, gone above the Ravit Committee, and written again directly to the Home Secretary Shibana MacMood, urging her to intervene personally. Now, that means overturning a courtroom decision. This is nutty behavior, totally unacceptable behavior.

And the King, the King needs to be calling it out. and revealing that it is unacceptable. As I have been reporting, though, the financial pressure is on. Today, Prince Harry has had to pay the first installment of many, many millions going to the Daily Mail. Now, this one, yes, it's covered by insurance, but the next payment probably will not be. Surprisingly, though, because this is a man who I usually agree with, Douglas Murray has sparked huge criticism from royalists by argument. in The Spectator in a very controversial column that Harry and Megan deserve a second chance. I want to be fair to Douglas, so I am going to read out the key points of his argument,

even though it's something I 100% disagree with. He writes, obviously Prince Harry's bean spilling is hard to forgive. Clearly, the bomb that his wife tried to throw about a non-existent act of racism in the royal family was even harder to forgive, though I tend to put that down to a cultural barrier. I suspect that Megan has no idea how obsessed we are in Britain as to whether or not a child is going to turn out ginger. But I digress. The point is that the return of the Sussexes is the sort of thing I'd normally do anything to swerve. Yet there is something important that needs noting. I loat the rewriting of history, let alone the rewriting of very recent history.

Most of us are old enough to remember the royal wedding at Windsor in 2018. I don't know the happy couple, so it was unmiffed when I didn't receive an invitation. that when I discovered how many people had received an invitation who also didn't know the couple, some hurt did register. In any case, like most of the rest of the nation, I watched the ceremony on television with a quiet sense of pride and joy. Then the inevitable happened. The Sussexes swiftly decided to racialise any criticism as though the only explanation for not loving Harry and Megan unquestionably must be racism. So it was the nation. Not the couple. Not the couple. which found itself misrepresented. I agree with all of this up until now. Lest anyone forgets just

how deranged that period became, the actor Lawrence Fox lost his career because he said on national television something that was manifestly true that Britain is not a racist country. Here is where the actual lesson about the Sussexes comes along, which is that change and influence are not things you talk about, but rather something you do. Had the couple stayed in the UK, They would have been able to do more good in a day than they could do on a thousand podcasts. They could have said about the usual generally, tediously royal routine of opening school, sports halls and village fates, but done so to a genuinely excited public. They might have set up a charity to help other young people turn their lives around.

By just getting on and doing such things, they might have actually changed the lives of people, especially young people, and done an amount of good impossible to put a price on. Instead, they decided to put a price on everything and charge the highest price imaginable. Now, even California has seen through them and they are returning to the UK. For the sake of the monarchy, the country, and themselves, I hope they will recognize the wrong turn they took and turn their lives around again. Some silence will be required of them, of course, but a degree of grace will also be required of the commentating class. having made which observation, I will now return to my monkish silence on the matter. But unfortunately, I believe Douglas is wrong on this.

Harry and Meghan remain a clear and present threat to the British monarchy. If they can't take the throne, they want to damage it to such an extent that it will be impossible for a future King William and King George. Indeed, Richard Kay, of the Daily Mail. Remember, very good friends with Princess Diana, warning that there are now rival royal courts in this country after Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return. The whole thing opens up the prospect of rival courts.

And by that, I mean, the figures who are going to sort of gather around Harry and Megan and those who are going to stay loyal to William and Catherine, and I suppose the king and queen. You know, that will be an issue that the royal family as an institution will be concerned about. Is Harry going to sort of assemble a sort of a pritorian guard of people who are going to be out there supporting him, maybe giving interviews, letting people know a bit about what they're up to? That would be concerning, I think, to the royals. Harry's got a lot to navigate.

But, you know, just as it was when Harry arrived in America and a lot of A-list celebrities were fascinated by this disgruntled prince and wanted to get to know him then, the same is going to apply now. People are going to be fascinated too about what happens next, this sort of rivalry between him and William, the unresolved issues. And all those are going to be massive. talking points for the media. And I hate to say it, for the royals, a massive diversion from what they do. And they will not be happy about that. Now, of course they won't be. And I do think the media

class in this country are really understanding, a misunderstanding, excuse me, just how much the public are not prepared to forgive Prince Harry and Megan Markle, even Amanda Blatel. Writing in the Daily Mail today, many of us have realized that Megan's drawers that she is a device. of characters. She may not always be a cloud pleaser, but she is still a massive crowd puller. And like it or not, she is one of the most famous, recognized and photographed women in the world. But unfortunately, none of the statistics back that up at all with Stephanie Sidley writing that it's going to be a bloodbath. Harry and Megan's return is going to be a bloodbath because the UK is just not going to stand for it. And let's just look at some of this polling,

which is just fascinating. Should Harry and Megan be invited to Christmas with the royal family. 88% say no, just 9% say yes they should. Should King Charles forgive? Prince Harry. 86% say no. Just 11% say yes. And then when you come to the most recent UGov poll of the Royal Family Favorability ratings, this is where it becomes absolutely damning and must not be forgotten by the media class who are trying to encourage us to just forgive and move on. So you see there, Prince William, at the top of the list, 76% positive view, 16% negative, followed by Catherine, the Princess of Wales, who is almost as popular, also very, very high up in someone who probably doesn't get enough credit, Princess Anne.

Now, Charles has a much more split view. you'll see 62% view him favourably, but the negative rating is much higher than Prince Edward and Sophie, the Duchess of Edinburgh at 31%. To me, what's probably most interesting, though, is that Queen Camilla still remains more unpopular than popular in the United Kingdom. And this is something that the mainstream media doesn't want to acknowledge, but it shows you Brits have a very long memory. We remember Camilla's betrouchy,

might be a nice woman in a lot of ways. But we were told she was never going to become queen. We believed that. We brought into that light. And so we're not happy. Still, 44% negative view, 43% positive. Then, however, comes the shocking polling. Because Prince Harry used to once sit atop this list.

Even when Queen Elizabeth II was alive, he would outrank her. Outrank William. At times, as the most popular member of the world. royal family, even after all of the controversies, right? Even after the Nazi costume, even after the naked pictures, not anymore. 33% positive, but 58% negative. And then after Princess Betris and Princess Usually, we get to Megan Markle, 22% positive rating, but 65% negative, meaning that the only Royal, who is more unpopular, Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, disgraced with a 92% negative reaction. On the superstar panel today is Restore Britons, Alla Minnie Hane, and also Susan Hall, who is

the top conservative politician in London. She has spoken out on this issue this week, posting on X, I don't care what your wife says. I really don't want to hear from you either. that is to Prince Harry. And when Laird of the Manor says, if you're a lying hypocrite, please take a bow alongside that famous, or shall we say infamous moment on the Netflix series

where Megan Markle quite clearly mocked the fact that she curtsied in front of Queen Elizabeth II. Susan shared the views of many of the country writing it was this bow that turned me completely against her. How disrespectful can you be? She added, and I think this is something so many of us are feeling this week, I feel so sorry for William and Catherine. So I want to get into this now with Aula and Susan. Susan, I saw your post and I completely agreed. And I was just thinking

about this from a political perspective briefly, because you've got Prince Harry circumventing his own father's justice system. I mean, we're coming pretty close, Susan, to a full-blown constitutional crisis here by directly corresponding or getting his lawyers to directly correspond with Shibana MacMood, the Home Secretary. But the thing is, MacMood is an elected politician, Susan, and the polling shows that 98% of the country, 98% of us do not want our taxpayer money going to fund their private security. So surely the Labor government cannot overturn the decision of the court, Even though it does feel that's what we're being butted up to expect. I mean, I'm sure you've seen it, Susan.

But this week, you know, we've had David Blunkett coming out and saying, oh, no, of course he needs security. It feels like there is a full-on establishment plan to make this happen. But do you think MacMood can overturn this decision, given 98% of us say hell no? Wouldn't that be politically suicidal for her? Well, first of all, they are so entitled, aren't they? Awful. That's what gets us all. At the end of the day, it isn't up to her either.

It is up to, and I've forgotten the name of it, but it's a separate... The Ravik, the Ravik Committee. That's it, the Ravit Committee, that decide whether he is entitled to it. Now, I think when he was popping in and out the country, it was slightly different. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they said, yes, he's entitled to it. And it is a very difficult one. None of us want money going to them, well, a massive percentage of us. I think the way he behaved, especially when his grandmother was alive, was an utter disgrace.

I mean, suggesting that there was racism in the royal family was unforgivable. But at the end of the day, if they can't and live here and just supposing something happened to one of them, they'd be all held that loose. So I've got a ghastly feeling they will have some form of protection. Yeah, I mean, it is. I mean, I just listen to that word, Aller. Unforgivable. Unforgivable. And I agree. I think what they did was unforgivable. Now, the thing is, Ola. They made a huge play about wanting to be private citizens, about wanted to be treated normally. Now Harry's claim is that he feels he's been singled out for bad treatment. Well, no, he's not. He's just like you, Ola. He is just like you.

You know, you, and actually you too, Susan, to be honest, as very high profile right-wing politicians, we've seen what's happened to Anne Whittickham. There is actually much more likely in this country to be a threat against either of you than there is Prince Harry. Now, if there is a threat against either of you, there is a process that goes through. The police will approach you. They will consider your security. So Harry isn't being treated any differently. He's not being singled out.

No, Dan, it doesn't work like that. You have death threat. You have all sorts of things. and nothing, absolutely nothing. You know, I mainly because of social media, I'm recognised every time I go out, which is very kind of people, but of course there are a lot of people out there

that disagree completely with what I say. Unfortunately, because of the sort of world we're living in now, lots of people are being threatened. The police in London, we've already lost 3,000 police in the last year or so. we are absolutely in a dire strait with our police, with the metropolitan police. They haven't got the resources to look after, you know, many people. And it's so massively a drain on resource to protect these people.

If you look at Sadiq Khan, he has four officers with him all the time. Wow. Two range robbers. Bulletproof, bulletproof ones. Yeah, I know. And do you know what? And the irony is, the irony is, the irony. is Sadiq Khan is less likely to be hit

than Susan or I. But he's got the Range Rover and we're getting the tube. Yeah. But I guess my point is that Harry is not being singled out. Of course he's not. This is what everyone deals with. You know, you know how I, I mean, look, Harry is, I think Harry's a nutty, right?

I think that he fell in love with Megan. She sold him. She sold herself to him. I loathe Megan. I think she's a dreadful, dreadful human being. when this nonsense about racial discrimination, when I first saw her, I thought she was Italian. She doesn't even look like a black woman or a mixed race woman.

So it's just utter nonsense. And as you know, we've had this conversation. The UK embraced her. They were happy that Harry had found this lovely woman that loved him and that she was a normal actress and very average C-list D-list actress. But, you know, they were happy. Everyone embraced it. We had a party at our house.

Nobody for one minute said, oh, she's mixed race. I never heard one person ever say that. But then when it didn't suit her, and she became jealous of Kate, because Kate's a fantastic lady, and she does her job, and it is, you know, it's a background. You know, the Queen always said,

you get on with it, you do your duty, you never explain, you never complain. And that is part of being in the royal family. Now, Megan wanted, she wanted Elizabeth Taylor. She wanted Grace Kelly fame. That was never going to happen. She wasn't happy being behind Catherine. So then she says,

I'm not having this, I'm off. I want privacy. Goes to Canada, suddenly ends up in Hollywood, spills the beans. And you know what? The American said, we love the royal family,

sister. We aren't buying this anymore. And now she hasn't got nothing. So she comes back here and apparently Guy Ritchie's giving her something on one of his films. Maybe. Don't do it.

No, no, no, we'll watch your film. Don't waste your money. So true. Don't ruin your show. It's all about. Oh, it's a series. Oh, it's even worse.

But it might ruin it. No, but the point is he might ruin it. And that is the point. I think what you're warning is why Netflix are really potentially reluctant to do this. I haven't watched the show. It's not my cup of tea, but apparently it's very popular. It's called The Gentleman. Oh, it is very popular before she was in it.

Exactly. But this is the problem. She is, you know, she's toxic. She's toxic, but she's also so disingenuous. And, you know, she is a, if she wants to be a member of the royal family, and they want security and they went all the things, that go along with that privilege, act like a royal. You are not a too-bob actress anymore.

You married a prince. Act like it. You have got, you know, the monarchy, you've got the king's grandchildren. You know, in your care, act like a mother and a princess. Don't act like a two-bob actress. Next, you'll be getting an only-fans account.

Honestly, this woman, I can't bear her. Susan, I think your post, about William and Catherine is what a lot of us feel. You're saying you feel so sorry for them. But going along with that, and I know this is difficult for you as a politician, Susan, so I'm putting you on the spot here. But going along with this is a real fury with King Charles. Or putting Prince William and Catherine the Princess of Wales in this position for allowing this to happen, Susan.

do you have sympathy for the king as a father, or do you think he actually should have done more to keep these two out of the country? I think when Meghan makes up her mind she's going to do something, she will do it. I mean, Richard Kay came on and said, Harry's got to navigate the way forward. No, no.

He's got to navigate that ghastly wife of his. That's what he's got to do. And if she's decided to come back, She won't care what the king thinks. I do feel for Charles. I've always been very fond of Charles. I feel for him because at the end of the day, he's got two children.

And as a mother, whatever my children do, they will always be my children regardless. So I do feel sorry for him. But if anybody thinks that he would have had any say in whether they came back or not, dream on. They'll do exactly what Megan wants them to do. Yeah, what Megan wants Megan gets, as Harry said. But all I, what I am hating, what I am hating is seeing, and I see it every day, and I keep calling it out, the mainstream media, the political establishment, piling pressure on Prince William to forgive Harry.

It's almost like all of the pressure is coming on William. He's a terrible person if he doesn't. He's got to be the bigger man. Why should he? Look, as Susan says, we all live in families. Doesn't matter who you are. Doesn't matter if you live in, you know, a councillor state in Birmingham, where you live in the world in the person. the palace. Families of families and there is dynamics and there are issues and there are aroused

and I bet you Kate has got a voodoo doll of Megan that she pokes every night. But the point is that you know, she's far too nice for that. Oh, she probably, I don't know. I think Kate's like, but anyway, but the point is that the family dynamics are family dynamics. Now, he was, you know, William will think to himself, I'm sure, you are my brother. Yes, why should I forgive you when you did what you did to me. You know, he, I would imagine, and obviously I don't know because I don't know them, but, you know, when they lost their mother, I would imagine that William took a very protective role over Harry and they became very close and they would have got themselves.

It would have been a horrendous trauma for a child and for siblings. And then for him to get this two Bob Fly by Night actress comes along and he chooses her over his brother. That's very, very hurtful. And I do not blame William. I think William will be the future king that he is. I think he will be polite and he will be diplomatic and he will do what he has to do. But I very much, I very much doubt he will ever forgive him.

And I tell you another thing that Harry's got to do, shave that ridiculous hair. Look at that bit of the hair he's got. I mean, please. He looks terrible. He looks, or have a hair transplant. You know, there are ways to deal with it. A dupe, exactly. Do a Nelton John.

Well, look, the good news. I've got few ladies is that all of my reporting on this, and I'm very, very confident on this, is that Megan Markle is hardly going to be here. This is all for show. This is the start of a trial separation. She will be spending much of the time in Montecito claiming that it's down to her business. I mean, yet she says she's the best mom in the world. I can't believe that you two would ever have decided to work on the other side of the world from your children. But, you know, we'll just leave it there. It's actually probably... You've got marmalade and jam to make.

Yeah, exactly, to sell. To sell. Not very well. Not very well because no one's actually buying this rubbish. But anyway, that is my prediction. I'm standing by it. I believe the marriage is in deep, deep trouble. And that this is the beginning of, of we're going to see a lot less of Harry and Megan.

Is Chelsea still available? Is Chelsea still available? No, she's not. And you know, that is so sad because she was the one who got away. But you know what? She's incredibly happy now. She has a lovely family, lovely family. lovely husband, very, very happy.

And sadly for her, sorry, sadly for Harry, I think she made the best decision getting away. But Dan, do you know what? There's always Katie Price. She's on the market again. On that, that would be something to be hold. Then I actually would be quite happy for Harry to be invited to Christmas again because imagine Katie Price sasheing down the walk to Sandronham.

Please bring Harvey. Oh, brilliant. All the Manny Hayne, the spokesperson for the safety of women and girls at Restore Britain and Susan Hall, who is the lead for the Conservative Party, the most senior Conservative member in the London Assembly, taking the fight to Sadiq Khan. Are you going to go to the Notting Hill Carnival on Monday, Susan? Absolutely not. You can't tell other people they shouldn't go and then go yourself.

She's going. She's going. She's going. going to get her hair braided and get some chicken. Yeah, she's going to love it. Cultural appropriation. You'll be castled for that. Layla will be there doing her street rat. It's all going to be good. Well, don't worry. We'll be covering it on outspoke. We'll be covering the carnage on outspoken. I'm not taking the bank holiday Monday off. I am here live. But so great to have both of you today. Have an amazing weekend. Thank you so much. And just before we go, we are going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. This is when we put your union jackass is head to head. On Monday, it was Andy Burnham. Tuesday, Angela Raina, Wednesday, Prince Harry.

Thursday, Megan Markle. Agsy P 54 says, come on, Dan, you seriously included old Markle as a Bristin? I know loads of people, loads of you said that. It was sort of as an honorary. She's not a Brisbane, okay, we know that, but it was sort of honorary as a union jackass this week. She's causing us so much pain. Grammar Police, aka M. Oz, says, I would have picked Megan Markle, but she's not British. Yes, I hear your point, loud and clear. David Smith, LU7xv, says, Harry, by 100 miles. He has no of proportion, the dimwit prince. James Lynch 402 says Harry is very sad and needs to be moving on with his life. Megan needs to learn humility and try not to focus on herself. Alan Buchanan 6.1-5 says

Harry has been attracted to his family. The monarchy in his country for the past six years, how could anyone be worse? Super Slainer says actually went for Rainer on this one. The tax dodger will never be forgiven and Blue 84 was with her there, saying Angela Rainier every time I just don't like her. But Kim Howard 4-929 says every one of them are no more than grifters. Harry believes he is special because he is a royal. Well, he ain't that special. Markle is no more than a complete piece of trash, along with Rainer, Burnham, a complete grifter unleashed at that. So I got the feeling that Kim sort of wanted to vote for everyone. And I feel you on that. Alexander Cameron 5-417 says Andy Burnham tried to send us to a war that we don't want. Oh my God, I know. I've been so mad about that this week.

A, BJX 4QS says Andy Pandy every single time. It's a pity we won't get another general election, as I honestly believe he will create a crisis to stop democracy. Zonian FJB says Burnham, and it's likely to remain in that spot for a while. Honeymoon is over now. People will see he is worse than Starma, maybe much worse. Cherpy Wiggins, 5-796 is Burnham, looking to get 60 million Brits killed by continuing to act tough against a far tougher opponent.

I agree, I agree, you know, I spoke out against him being in Ukraine this week and you saw the pushback that I received from people like John Cleese trying to say I'm pro-putin absolutely disgusting this war needs to end and the saber rat lead from Andy burnham is a joke it's embarrassing okay I've got to tell you the winner though oh I haven't got the results I completely forgot about that I have a feeling I know who it's going to be let me just see how many votes have we got so far well 50,000 of you thank you so much that is incredible in fourth position with 11% of the vote it's Angela Rainer in third position with 22% of the vote, Prince Harry, the runner-up with 26% of the vote, Megan Markle, but the worst

Britain in the world this week with 42% of the vote is Andy Burnham. Okay, P Diners, joining me. We're heading over to Substack for the Royal Uncanceled After Show. You can join us there at at www.w.outspoken.com. Hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you want to listen or watch us. But a reminder, we are back live on Bank Holiday Monday. So make sure you're with us live, okay, on Monday, given we're all working. on the holiday because there is, I think, going to be so much news, probably lots coming out of the Notting Hill Carnival. 5pm, UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific, hit subscribe right now, of course, turn on the notification bell and most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you.