Doug Loves Movies - Joe Lynch, Rachel McCartney and Monica Nevi guest

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

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Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming baby sticky seeds With 50 azepop or kernels in his teeth There's still not one that he won't see Cause Doug loves movies! Hey, hey, hey everybody! My name is Doug and I love scary movies! That's right, this is Doug Loves Scary Movies Recording on Sunday,

October 8th, 2023. Kigsman, The Golden Circle of Friends with Benefits, A Wonderful Life As We Know It Could Happen To You, Only Live Twice in a Lifetime, Cop in a Half, Nelson of Rambo, First Blood, Part 2 for the Roadhouse Sitter,

Roadhouse Sitter Terminator 2, Judgment Days and confused cars cynic and old lace in the old school of rock. My guests today are all returning participants, which is a really sexy expression, returning participants. Give it up in your own homes applaud to yourselves for Joe Lidge

Rachel McCartney and Monica Neve hello yay hello I don't know if we're supposed to be clapping to like screw things up but yay everybody yay we're all second date no I just am so used to saying like at the

shows with an audience you know give it up for and then just now i started to say that and it doesn't make sense because they're everyone's just listening at home uh to this one there is no audience but thank you all of you for being here wherever you are back after his win last week. It's Joe Lynch. Hey Joe. Hi everybody. You're not sick of me yet. Well,

we'll see how this goes. Yeah. Let's check in at the end. Let's do a check in at the end. See if everyone is still cool with you last night. Uh, I accidentally called your, your latest motion picture Suitable Flesh.

In a conversation, I called it Sustainable Flesh, which... You seem to be doing that a lot. But that could be like the more environmental sequel to Suitable Flesh. I would much prefer it be a sustainable box office when it comes out October 27th. I love it.

I'll take that. Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for being back again and we'll plug it again one more time at the end of the show. Also returning is someone who appeared on the Seattle episode

we did earlier this year, and that's Monica Neve. Hello, Monica. Hello. Thank you for having me back. How are things in the Pacific Northwest? They're hotter than they should be, so we're uncomfortable, but I think we're doing okay. Yeah, I don't think of it as being hot very often there. So weather-wise, it's been a weird year, I think. Well, and by hot, I mean 72. So that's, you know.

Right. Maybe not hot for everybody else. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to be up there in Tacoma on Saturday, October 21st. Unfortunately, Monica is going to be out on the road on that date, but I still I'm sure I'll manage to come up with some excellent

guests. And joining us over Zoom a bunch of times, it's Rachel McCartney. Hey, Rachel. Is it a bunch of times now? That's so exciting. Right? Because you had a nice run there where you won a few weeks in a row no i think you must be coming back someone else no way i swear you won

a couple of times i've seen five movies in my entire life i'm confused as to why you even asked me to do this a second time i do not remember being that well you know maybe you did well because i just happened to mention the five movies that you you have seen i don't know i don't know what happened but yeah i really uh you know you should run with it that i perceive you as a champion and yeah that's great i think you're wrong but we can go with it okay well that's the thing is i don't really the keeping track of the stats isn't really my uh my thing so it's all based on memory after uh doing this thing for 17 years now and uh so in my mind in my heart rachel mccartney is a champion. Hell yes.

And thank you for being here today. Joe, of course, won last week, so that's why he's back. And it's also just really in his wheelhouse what we're doing this month, because I mostly do scary, you know, the games involve scary movies, just to be in the spirit of the season and also give people some ideas of movies to watch. Because at this point, there's thousands of horror movies out there on all those damn streamers and stuff. Somebody's got to help people pick what to watch. Somebody's got to help people pick what to watch. So that being said,

recommendation all month long is I ask each of you, each of my guests to recommend a scary movie. Joe Lynch, what have you got this week? So I am always of the mindset, because there's always this stable of, there's the Halloween movies, there's the nightmare movies. A lot of people, for some reason, have been talking a lot this season about Night of the Demons. I don't know if you've ever seen the 1980s Kevin Tenney movie with Leanna Quigley called Night of the Demons, which is always fun. People want kind of that spook-a-blast kind of sensibility those like roller coaster

movies um there's also hocus pocus for all you know for all of you family members out there that want to you know watch something that's kind of fun and spooky and not freak the kids out completely um that said i want to delve into something that is a little harder to find. You might have to go to a, you know, a non-streaming platform for this, for YouTube, you know, to see it, you know, in its current state. But it is a movie that I recently just watched and I'm curious if anyone else had seen it. It's been remade before and a lot of people didn't even know

it was a remake at the time. But it's a movie that came out in the 80s, in 1986, called The Hitcher. And it's written by the guy who did Near Dark, Eric Redd, and Body Parts. It was directed by Robert Harmon. It was his first film. It stars Rutger Hauer, the sexy and evil Rutger Hauer, and C. Thomas Howell and Jennifer Jason Leigh in a fantastic role. And it's hard to find only because of rights.

But there is a version that's going to be coming out on Blu-ray. It's one of those movies that like every single one of these like bespoke retro Blu-ray companies like Shout Factory or Vinegar Syndrome have been trying to snap up for years. But it's finally coming out in the next couple months. And I implore people to see this. Now, whether you saw it in the 80s on HBO, like I did, or maybe caught it, you know, on a streamer, it kind of pops up here and there. It was on Hulu a couple years ago for a minute. But this movie is one of the scariest films I have ever seen. And it's also one of the most gorgeously shot

horror films ever. It was shot by John Seale, who recently did a little movie called Mad Max Fury Road. And, you know, multiple other- Heard of it. Like, you might've heard of it, like Road Warrior and stuff.

It's a very simple story about a kid who's driving from uh i think it's chicago to la with uh back in the day when you would actually like hire nefarious youngsters to like drive a car from you know from one side of the country to the other and he's just driving along the uh the texas uh borders and he comes across a hitchhiker he picks the hitchhiker up played by Rudger Hauer. And that hitchhiker then decides to fuck with him for the rest of the movie. And by fucking with him, I don't mean sexy times.

I mean, he goes to no ends to make this kid life a living hell and doesn't stop ever. He is more terrifying and more unrelenting than, say, a T-800. It is, like, seriously, it really, just watch it again. If you are in the Los Angeles area, you can actually go to either Vidiot's or Cinephile to pick up the import Blu-ray. But it is, bar none, one of the scariest movies i've ever seen you'll never eat french fries the same way again and you will never see jennifer jason lee in the

same light ever again after seeing this movie and i don't mean like you know fast times at regimont high level i mean there is some crazy shit that happens to her that will just it'll you'll never watch uh dorothy park Dorothy Parker and her vicious circle the same way again, either. I'm sure. Well, I,

you can, I can assure you, I'll never watch that again. Let me say this about the never, you will eat french fries the same way again. Are you implying that we won't eat them with our mouths anymore after we see this movie? Like what other ways?

Well, like at the very least you won't eat steak frites. The thick ones that look as big as your finger. I get it now. You've said too much, but I agree with most of it. It's a really good, scary movie. I saw it in cinemas when it initially came out. And I've been a fan ever since. I believe I even owned the VHS for a while.

But now the VHS that you owned was likely Pan and Scan. This movie is shot so widescreen. And it looks more gorgeous than most like this it looks like a movie that like david lean would approve of that's how beautifully it's shot um and and but again it's been unavailable either letterboxd or in kind of in digital form for a very long time i think you can probably get it on vod in certain cases but just give it a shot. It's gorgeous, but it is also incredibly terrifying. All right. Excellent.

Excellent suggestion. There's not enough C. Thomas Howell love out there. Was there ever? I don't think so. Soulman. Can we talk about Soulman? No, we won't talk about Soulman. I don't even know what the cnc

thomas howell stands for that's how little uh you know what i mean like that that's the kind of celebrity where i just never he was even remotely curious about what i think it's chris if i had to guess because his dad's a stuntman named chris howell i think uh but anyway uh monica you don't have to say as many words sorry i was just gonna say you know a lot about your subject but i'm just saying you know taking the pressure off of monica yeah you might be able to help me with this one though because i actually don't like horror films so the one that i thought of i actually probably need more understanding of because it is the film that I

remember watching when I was very young and it stuck with me so much that that might be why I don't like horror films it's not really that scary of a movie I'm sure because I've described it to people because I forgot what it was called I described it to people as an adult and they're like oh it's species but I could only really remember because she's you know she's the alien robot lady that needs to sleep with she wants to get pregnant right to like stay yeah and i remember this scene in a hotel room when she cuts her own thumb off and it grows back and then she goes to like cut the guy's thumb off or so i can't even remember and i just like remember that film so much and like i think about it often and i know I've never watched it again after that and I feel like I need either people

to go and watch it and tell me what what trauma I've sustained from watching this or I need to know more about the film I also have always been a fan of Michael Madsen's voice um and he's in that and I remember that part was very calming but otherwise i don't know the dad from free willie and so that was calming to me i think yeah i think it uh i think that yeah you probably don't know him from all of his other work because he's not he's not in calming things at all quite the opposite but um uh yeah joe you agree that Species, that's a good one, right? That's a great movie. I mean, the blend of sci-fi and horror at the time, it used H.R. Giger's designs, which

obviously everyone remembered from the Alien movies, but they hired him specifically to work with the effects artist Steve Johnson, who also did Night of the Demons, to create the creature. I did that on purpose, you know, so ours would go together. Yeah, she knew it would tie in nicely. Plus, you never thought you would ever see Michael Madsen and Ben Kingsley fighting to each scenery in one movie, and Species does it for you. There you go. It's a good pick. All right, good for me. Yeah, it was great. I saw An an assassin henstridge somewhere in person i was just like you know starstruck most mostly because of that specific movie you know like i really

i really put her on the map and it was really uh unique in um you know uh getting to see her doesn't she i haven't seen in a a minute, but I feel like she French kisses someone to death. Oh, yeah. Is this a movie about a dog? It's about a spruce tree. Yes.

It's just about this alien lady that comes down and makes a lot of trouble. I like it. These are two. So far, we got two classics, I think. Rachel, I know that you've only seen the five films, but of those five, were any of them scary? I would have to say the closest thing to a horror movie of the five movies that I've seen would be Rachel getting married.

I think I can trust that. That's terrifying on a whole other level. From the director of Silence of the Lambs is Rachel getting married. It is a horror. That movie is horrifying. Like the tension in Rachel getting married. And when you find out what happened, I i mean like that movie gave me trouble sleeping for a week so i'm gonna say that was a horror movie i love it i don't know did it get did you were you extra traumatized because your name was rachel well the protagonist's name was kim

with a y for some reason so i don't think anybody on earth is traumatized for that reason so yeah so it's about she was attending rachel's wedding yes um yeah the the rachel character in the movie is i don't want to say minor but she's like she's the least screwed up person in the entire family yeah because it's like her husband sort of steps out at her right there at the like wedding right or something like that no no they get married like all all of that is fine the the core tension how much am i allowed to spoil things i'll go crazy on this one okay so the movie is about yeah i think it's like what you say about it could be a selling point to get people to watch because it just sounds like a movie about a wedding this doesn't sound fun at all but uh go ahead and it's and it's even less fun than a wedding yeah but which is

so what's the what's the tension surrounding so um the the protagonist of the movie is this addict named Kim. Played by Anne Hathaway. Right? Sorry, my mic just muted. Feel free to cut yourself out if you're going to say something. That was the ghost of Jonathan Demme going, spoiler alert! That was the ghost of Jonathan Demme going,

spoiler alert! I'll tell you, his movie Ricky and the Flash, nobody flashes anybody the whole time. Okay, so what's the conflict? The conflict is she's been in and out of rehab for 10 years because when she was 16, she was babysitting

her brother and she was very high on Percocet, and she lost control of the car, and her brother drowned. Oh. So now she's a mess showing up at this wedding trying to hold it together. Yeah, and I mean, she's not even really trying to hold it together. She's acting out because at this point,

there's really nobody good that she can be. She doesn't see any path for her to redeem herself or live any kind of positive positive meaningful life um and yeah it's i don't feel like i need to say at this point it's horrifying i think you get it um but yeah that's that's the scariest movie of the five movies i've seen it is really uh strangely intense it when i saw recently on that show the bear the episode with the whole family getting together oh yeah that reminded me a lot of rachel getting married just the way it's just like it's just you know endless like all these people are just stuck together in this one spot and there's so much tension and weirdness and uh but yeah rachel getting married was like i think maybe the tipping

point of like people who have this irrational hatred of ann hathaway i think she's like an incredible actress and she's in a movie coming out soon called eileen that i think she's great in and uh you know uh she was in your boy uh joe's boy nachos a movie about the what's that movie called with the monster oh the one with the kaiju in it yeah it's kind of generic it's just called like the monster or the something anyway like gigantic or something oh fuck yeah yeah but anyway she is terrific in that too i think she's always good but she's really good in rachel getting married but she's you know a very frustrating character to like i could see people like that would be like the

moment where they go i'm just gonna hate and have to put it from now on because i think she takes on challenging roles though like she's not going she's not always going the you know let me endear to you and like always do devil wears prada kind of stuff she's taking on roles that are not fucking around you know like she doesn't care that she's she's maybe playing unlikable parts and the thing that i remember about that movie too was that jonathan demi if you see his whole body of work, he never used handheld cameras much. And this was kind of like his Dogma movie, where it was really handheld and feels like it was very naturally shot. So I think that kind of fly-on-wall feeling

made a lot of people uncomfortable, too. Yeah, it's a ride. Yeah, I can see that. It's a ride. But I feel like the Anne Hathaway hate started with Princess Diaries. And I don't think anybody hated Anne Hathaway off of like Rachel getting married. Like she's so clearly killed that role. And even though the character is very frustrating, she's not a goody two shoes at all, which is what people hate Anne Hathaway for.

Hathaway for um I'm kind of surprised that after that movie she didn't like get to play more of those super dramatic protagonist roles because she was so good in that movie I think she was even Oscar nominated for it and then you know of course she won for Les Mis where she really really went for it with the whole saving the head and everything like she goes for it she doesn't mess around definitely so yeah i guess that is a super dramatic protagonist role i guess i meant why isn't she in more of the exact type of indie movies that are the only movies i watch why isn't she in the other five the other four that you've seen why didn't she get those two you know what she wasn't broke man mountain so i guess that's two out of five well uh i i think you would really like eileen if you decide to see a sixth movie she's terrific and she's it's her and thomas and mckenzie who's in i'm guessing not in any of the

your other five movies but uh but she's a terrific actress as well um okay so those are great recommendations it's like it kind of like kept ramping up like each each one was scarier than the last but it's not up to me to decide what's the scariest i'm not in charge of that so uh i'll put this on the douglas movies account i'll do a little poll and see what people think is the scariest of of those movies i think it'd be hilarious if anybody watched rachel getting married this month based off of uh this recommendation like it's a halloween movie yeah yeah it fits it fits 31 days scary movies it's his second scariest movie after signs of the lambs that's for sure

die hard is the christmas movie yeah The Lamp's the job at Debbie, that's for sure. I don't know, Married to the Mob is pretty terrible. Die Hard is the Christmas movie. Yeah, same thing. Yeah, let's start Rachel getting married to a Halloween movie. Let's start that. Let's start it here, yes. What time of year does the wedding take place? It's probably in the summer or something.

Something like that. It'd be funny if it was really day and date. All right, thanks again for the rex let's go to a break before we play some games we'll be right back we are back and i'm still shivering with i'm just terrified at the idea of watching rachel getting married again and i just might do it because i am watching 31 horror movies this month. Joe, you're on a similar regimen. You're seeing horror movies every day? Every day.

Yep. I have our list up. We're ready to go so that at the drop of a hat, it's going to be like, oh, what's today? Oh, it's either Nosferatu or Nightmare on Elm Street Part 4. You've got to be ready. How does 4 – 4 was probably uh was that a good one the renny harlan uh quote-unquote classic what's interesting is that if you watch if you watch like one two three and four you go from you see freddy krueger as this horrifying little creature you know that is like invading people's

dreams and making everybody's lives a living hell and by the fourth one he's a rock star so we actually just watched i mean he is he was he was hosting mtv at that point and when you get renny harlan the director to shoot him he's you know it's all about the funny hahas and you know it's less about the scares and more about the gags um i like four my favorite ones i think one is the best and three is my second favorite four is up there like just as part of the fun factor of it it's it's a good halloween movie you can put on in the background while you're carving apart yeah because i remember it's is this the one called dream warriors no that's uh's Dream Masters part four. Dream Warriors is the third one. Oh, Dream Warriors then Dream Masters?

Who do you think should remember this shit? Me. Yeah, exactly. Any series of movies I'm a fan of, I do remember all the exact titles, but over the years Freddy's lost me a little bit but i do

uh i do remember that like if you do a montage of freddy kills and freddy's violent moments it's you know over the years there's been a lot of amazing stuff in those movies oh yeah but uh let's play a game that i just made up today for our first game that hopefully will be a little easier for people who aren't just into scary movies. This one is called Name That Tune's Movie. Name That Tune's Movie. So I will name a song that was in a musical motion picture, and then you have to guess what movie it is from. Or you might just know it, and then your guess would be probably the correct answer.

We'll start with Joe. I'll tell him the name of a song from a musical. He gets one guess. If he misses it, we go to Monica. And guess if he misses it we go to monica and then if monica misses we go to rachel and uh we just have a few rounds of this and we'll see if anybody gets any of these right because i don't know you know i can't guess if one of these is in rachel's five or monica's how many movies do you think you've seen monica oh probably 16 but none of them were scary 16 good i'm about 12 i've seen 12 you just watch 12 000 movies

most times it's just nightmare on street part four on a loop hopefully it's something off of the nightmare on street part four soundtrack uh which has some amazing songs in it so let's say well these aren't these aren't soundtrack songs these are sung songs they sing in the movie like characters stop and sing like they do in all the all the great musicals got it or they keep doing what they're doing but they sing while they're doing it. Joe, this first one. What movie do you think has the song in it called Some

Fun Now? Oh, God. Wait. Wait. This is good. Because this ends up Oh, god i i'm so happy i was so nervous you're gonna pull out like some fucking vincent minnelli you know bon mot from the 40s but i can name this one and this is from a little film called little trap of Horrors. That is correct. You did it. God damn it. Wow.

Yeah, it's one of the cute Pepe doo-wop-y songs in the musical motion picture Little Shop of Horrors. Joe is on the board with one point.

Monica. Yes. You're up next okay oh and just a just a sidebar if anybody's ever you know in the new york area there's a off-broadway version of little shop of horrors that's been running for a while now they keep like stunt casting it with new known actors but uh i saw it uh when it you know when i first started and it's it's really good so if you uh nice you're interested in that sort of thing check it out all right monica what movie do you think has a musical number the the song, that's called Pretty Women. I'm just hoping...

This is with the theme, because that one said horror. The only other scary musical I know is Sweeney Todd. Is it Sweeney Todd? You mean Sweeney todd the demon barbara fleet street oh yes the whole title i didn't even know that was the whole title that is the correct answer is it yeah i don't know any other scary musicals oh god you got the right answer without even knowing the full answer very impressive do i remember that anyways yeah there's just a song where you know johnny depp in the movie is just going on and on about pretty women

and uh you know he's got a bit of an attitude um because he's just a murderous barber he's a temperamental barber yeah yeah and uh i gotta say um i just recently saw sweeney todd on broadway as well and uh it made me everybody's loving this version but it just sort of made me go i think they nailed it in the movie because the stage version is like an hour longer of you know singing uh the way they do and uh and it's just also not as violent as the movie. I was really going in hoping... They made it sound like, oh, this is really... It's crazy how violent this show is.

And it's like, yeah, people get murdered, but it's not that... The actual movie, Sweeney Todd, the way every time he cuts somebody's throat and then does the chair that drops him through the floor, they always cut to what happens when the body hits the ground, which is the most hilarious to me. Like a person's already had their next cut, their next slit.

And then we're still watching them eat it when they hit the ground. You know, it's like it's like a YouTube video that takes it too far. You know, it's just like this was violent enough that we're gonna add this and then there's lots of uh beautiful songs in there but tim burton like really like went through and like cut whole songs cut for us like he really he really did genuinely adapt it i think there's too often when somebody takes a long ass musical tries to turn into a movie and they make a long ass movie and it's just like it's a different art form it should you know should maybe i love that movie it's really good i i really think about it a lot like i really it's just so uh tight and you know

scary but also amusing and uh yeah it's the last time that i've seen a tim burton movie because you know like we've been in this era of tim burton kind of making ips his own you know when he's been doing stuff for disney and and doing like gumbo and alice in wonderland or whatever this was one where like you can tell he was like behind video village like laughing every time there was arterial spray or seeing sasha baron cone and getting dismembered but yeah the montage of all the bodies uh the the bodies that they used in that are so well articulated like i had just recently just watched um frankenstein again and if you know the movie very well like there's a part where dr frankenstein gets like thrown up and hits the um the windmill and it's clearly like some mannequin like like

maquette like little puppet that someone stole off the street and threw it into the set whereas the i think it's kmb that did the effects for those those bodies talk more than the actors that actually played them they're so beautifully done uh and every time they hit the ground it's like oh it's gut-wrenching but maybe my favorite burn movie in a while ground it's like oh it's gut wrenching but maybe my favorite movie in a while they get their neck slit and then they fall and hit the ground in a way that like then their neck gets broken like it's like

it's so I remember their legs being all bent up yeah yeah and when you see the Broadway musical you don't see where the bodies land you just see them you know slide out of the chair uh okay so uh we got one point for joe one point for monica rachel are you ready yeah as you'll ever be all right you can't you don't have time to squeeze in a sixth movie right now you just have to go with your gut and i did have time to just

google horror musicals i don't think that's cheating because i did it before you gave me the prompt okay let's see if one of the horror musicals that you uh that came up is uh is the answer here uh what movie do you think has a song called Hollywood Ending? Well, I'm guessing it's not Rocky Horror because I do know that movie and I don't remember that song. I'll go with Corpse Bride. I don't even remember how much singing there is in Corpse Bride, but there probably is some. Google seems to think there was a significant amount.

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I know that Nightmare on Elm Street is like wall-to-wall songs. Hardly any just plain talking and that. Of course, I love that movie, but that is an incorrect answer, Rachel.

Heartbreaking. Great guess. Joe, do you think you know? I don't. I'm going to come up with some snarky... Is there any hints? Can we get any hints at all? No, I'm just excited that you with some snarky Is there any hints? Can we get any hints at all? No, I'm just excited

that you don't know this one I don't know this one I'm trying to think of other horror musicals that would, shit I'm going to go with Scream 3 Incorrect

I knew it I was waiting for the sound effect damn it there is all right uh is that everybody monica i didn't get a chance but i pretty much don't i'm not confident in it so no this is a tough one like if if anybody had seen this movie or maybe joe has seen it and just didn't remember that there was a song with this name in it but i love this movie i talk about it every year around the holidays because it's not only horror it's also christmasy oh a bit know it now god damn it yeah it's anna and the apocalypse and the apocalypse fuck so nightmare before christmas so that's good. I don't know if Nightmare Before Christmas had a snide Hollywood satirical bend to it.

That's why I was like, that doesn't fit, but that's singing. But I do recommend Anna and the Apocalypse to anyone who likes musicals but is not too big on horror because while it has horror elements, you know, it's basically a zombie movie. And those, I think, I think people must be getting less and less scared by zombies because

there's just so many of them these days. Like they're just, people are getting demystified by them at this point. Yeah. You know, I just finally watched, I'd never seen train to Busan and I finally watched it. And, um, Oh, and what'd you think? You just talked about this. Like, so how did, did you, did you cry? It's very emotional at the end, which I was, you know, sort of expecting, but it's still packed a wallop. And then,

but the other thing that I found interesting about it is they managed to create a type of zombie that is slow some of the time and fast some of the time. And and and they even depends on their mood and they can even talk sometimes zombies have discovered a high intensity interval training yeah something uh well they have this thing where they're like as they're transforming into a zombie they are really slow and they do these weird movements where they're like it feels like they're like bones are snapping and then once they're full slow and they do these weird movements where they're like, it feels like they're like bones are snapping. And then once they're full zombie,

then they can just run, but they're dumb. They're still dumb zombies. They still just kind of run at things and, you know, are kind of aimless. Yeah. What do they say when they talk?

You know, Hey, I'm sorry that I've been such a bad father. You did watch the movie. It's weird how emotional it is. It's really good. I've been hearing it's good for years, so I finally watched it.

I'm happy that I did. This game is about to come to an end with a tie-breaker because Joe and Monica are tied, and we have to have a winner before we can move on to commercials and another game. So, Joe, it's in your hands. I write these things down in a certain order,

and it just works out in some people's favor rather than others. But all you have to do is tell me the movie that features the song, Hot Patootie, Bless My Soul. Oh my God, if I get this wrong, I'm going to be fucking kicked out of the house. That would be Rocky Horror Picture

Show. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that didn't come up uh when it was your turn rachel uh but you know what i forgive you thank you that's the only other guess i had so i was gonna get it right but yeah no you were there eventually but i i have to say uh you know just doing this i know there's not a lot of horror musicals but the four that i just talked about i couldn't recommend i could recommend them all so highly they're all such great movies um yeah so some actually based on stage stuff and then some

i guess the end of the apocalypse is the only one that wasn't a stage musical first but boy that would be a great idea that would be fun fun. Can I, can I ask really quick, has everyone here seen the live version? Rocky horror. Yeah. Yep. You mean like going to a theater and listening to people scream the whole movie?

Yeah. I never did it. I was in a live version in college. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Did you play a specific character?

I was just an extra i i did it because my uh pseudo girlfriend at the time was really into it um and you know what it was not miserable it could have been worse it's fun if you're into it but like if you if you wanted to see the movie or hear what anybody is saying in the dialogue scenes forget it because it's yeah but they all have so many call and response things that they say that you're just listening to an audience just shout in unison at the screen at least the last time anybody who goes to see anybody who goes and see rocky horror for the first time at the theater there is like the asshole who listens to the commentary before actually watching the movie you know like you

have to at least absorb it once. But it plays as a new art still every Saturday. I went last year. I'd never been there before. I'd seen it many times at home, but never had the full experience of it. And yeah, it's a blast still. It's definitely highly recommended if you've seen the movie a few times.

Yeah. And it is such a different experience just watching it on tv because i definitely started out with you know seeing it with the uh you know at midnight in a pack theater people screaming but that's because i was you know part of that original wave of it of it becoming popular it's still like a standard thing to have people act it out in front of the screen also yeah okay no no they insist they make that happen you know at least you know the last time i went it was a lot of people and you know and some are great at it and some of her ways some people are wasting space but

it's just like any kind of you know it's any kind of like karaoke situation or something some people are gonna be great other people are gonna be like hey why don't you give the great people more time i just i feel bad for anybody who's playing janet because it's like okay you're trying to compete for people's eyes with susan sarandon yeah and then you're you're what you get for your trouble is being called a bunch of horrible words because that's like the movie when you see it with a crowd brad and janet don't get a second to breathe without being just called every horrible name like they're just instantly especially brad they just start yelling shit at him the second he shows up it's really a there's some kind of some ugliness to it it's a lot of uh

a lot of people sound angry uh when they're yelling at Brad. I feel like there's too much joy to really experience it as anger. It's just like, asshole, slut, we're so happy to be here. Yeah, it's true. They love it, but they also, like in the narrator, they give him such a hard time. He's just trying to tell the story. Like you don't hear a word he says when you see it in a theater like

oh yeah he gets tackled a lot they just start screaming where's your neck where's your neck all right let's play another game because we gotta we gotta settle this thing um joe lynch won that first round and wait, did I go to a commercial already? No. I didn't, right? No. We'll be right back. We're back.

Oh, so glad I got that in. All right. Joe Lynch won the first game. So he gets to go first in our second and final game today. And that could be really crucial if we get down to another tiebreaker, because he'll be first if he's involved in the tie. And the game we're going to play is called Weird Algorithm. I'll explain. the internet movie database has a weird algorithm where they uh keep track of every person who acts in movies uh and tv shows is uh ranked by like this uh they call it the star meter

and for any motion picture or tv show but we're talking motion pictures here you can go in and take the regular cast listing that was how the everybody was built on the actual movie and then you can refine it and change it to you can rearrange the order of the cast in order of popularity according to imdb so I'm going to name a motion picture and then each of you, and I'll tell you three of the stars of the movie, like the ones that are typically top-billed, and then you have to each guess

the name of an actor in that film who you think is the highest ranked today according to imdb and uh if you get if you get the top build person you get three points if you get the second build person you get two and if you name the third build person you get one and everybody can listen to everybody's answers and logic and i'll even go back and double check before locking in your answer and so two people or three people can all pick the same person but ultimately to win you should probably you know try to guess somebody different it's very strategic and the good news for joe and the bad news for everybody else.

Great. More of that. These are all. I'm sorry. These are all horror movies. They star actors that are in all genres. And other types of films. Okay. Yeah.

So you might. Basically, you're just looking for the most popular actor in any given situation. But some of these movies also. If he doesn't name The Hitcher or Nightmare 4, you guys are are fine you're like it's yeah yeah it'll be it's gonna be great so let's start with joe goes first and then we'll go to uh rachel and then to monica and everybody else everybody gets a chance to go first there's three rounds so each round will be a different person going first. Alright, Joe.

The movie Nightmare 4, Nightmare 4, Nightmare 4, Nightmare 4 I do a lot of movies with big casts for this game because that's fun but this movie had a pretty small cast but it was very effective almost as much a thriller as a horror movie,

called 10 Cloverfield Lane. Ooh, love that movie. So it officially is kind of a three-hander starring John Goodman, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and John Gallagher Jr. But today, what member of the cast of that movie do you think Joech is the most popular oh i mean the thing that i love about the movie is that the person that i would think being a big king ralph fan myself um would be number one is kind of playing a supporting role. And that's John Goodman.

I love Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Oh shit. I'm going to go with my gut and I'm going to say that Goodman is number one, mainly because he is just a sizable force in the frame in, in every film he's in. So I'm going to go with Goodman. Okay.

Rachel, what do you think i'm also gonna go with john goodman because i think i've only seen uh or heard of mary elizabeth winstead in one thing she was in scott pilgrim right she was yeah okay yeah that's that's the only movie i've heard of her from so i'm guessing it's not her and then the third person i don't think i've heard of at all so just based on that i'm gonna say john goodman okay uh what do you think monica i'm gonna i don't i'm gonna go with a twist here and go with mary elizabeth winstead just because it's different just to change it up be different and she's younger and cooler i don't know i like her a lot joe uh are you locking in John Goodman?

I'm going to hold because as much as I love me some John Gallagher, I'm going to have to go with John Goodman. Rachel, you're sticking with Goodman? Yep. Monica, you've done it. What? Really? Congratulations. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is number one monica you've done it what really congratulations number one according to iodb that's worth three points number two yeah this motion picture is a voiceover you only hear this actor's voice do you know who that is joe

no i like like bear mccreary the composer or jj abrams no it's bradley cooper you know he must be like on the phone or something oh that that doesn't count oh he's i would have picked him and then i would have been wrong anyway so that's yeah right and then uh and john goodman uh is number three. John Gallagher is four. But John Goodman is number three. And so that's worth one point for Joe and Rachel. And Monica has three. So it's anybody's game at this point.

Shit. I love that we still get us all being wrong. Like the most wrong. Who's next? Rachel. Rachel, you go first on this one. All right. The Motion Picture is the most recent scream film they kind of did a sort of not a reboot but it's just a weird continuation where there's there's still like yeah there's the numbers are getting strange

but this one is officially scream six and it stars courtney cox jenna ortega and i haven't seen it but somehow they managed to get skeet ulrich in there uh from the very first scream so what do you think rachel is any of those names strike you as being the most popular today so um the way the first one went it sounds like it's biased in favor of like more current or younger actors like who's ever in a lot of stuff right now oh yeah the star meter is how popular they are right now right not when the film yeah okay so there's somebody who tends to like rocket, the star meter is how popular they are right now, right? Not when the film is made. Okay. So somebody tends to like rocket up the star meter if they die. Nice. Because people are typing their name into the search engine.

Yeah. So which one of those things do you think is the most popular now? Or, you know, you could name another, but I feel like you haven't seen Scream 6. No, I haven't. It'd be funny if your five movies you've seen are Scream 1 through 5. Yeah. Then you just dipped just when you needed it most

for Scream 6. That would be unfortunate. I think Courtney Cox was in Friends, and that was her big thing. But they're probably not counting streaming data, right, for old shows? Oh, I don't know. I mean, I do think she remains popular because of that show being such a... I don't know why people are still so into it.

Now when I see it, it does feel dated to me. I watched one episode of it in fifth grade and i thought it was dumb even then and i i don't even have good taste like i'm not bragging about being smart as a fifth grader it's just i guess i like different dumb stuff um yeah i'll say i'll say jenna ortega just because I think she's younger and that's it. That's fair. That's a perfectly reasonable reason, Monica. And that's what I was thinking.

But now I want to... I'm going to say Courtney Cox just based on this odd Friends resurgence. I feel like so much of my algorithm is clips or memes or something from friends so maybe maybe a lot of people are searching her right now so i'm gonna go with courtney cox okay joe now uh i'm gonna go slightly contrarian no i want to go slightly contrarian a because that's the smart ass way to go go. And also, I've seen the movie, and like the other Scream movies, they always have that opening kill casting that, like, throws people off where they go like,

oh, my God, they brought Blonde into the movie, and they kill them systematically. Samara Weaving was in Scream 6, who I worked with on the little film called Mayhem, cheap plug. But she also went on to be in the director's... I think it was one of their first movies, the radio silence guys. They called

Ready or Not, so they brought her back in for the opening. And it seems like everybody's talking about Samara Weaving for one reason or another. Usually it's like, hey, is that Margot Robbie? No, it's Samara Weaving. And she's great. She's an amazing actor. That said, I don't know.

It just feels like everybody is on the Ortega tip because of Wednesday. I think I'm going to, if I want to win this motherfucker, I think I'm going to go with Ortega. I would love to say Samara Weaving. I bet you she's up there. But I'm going to have to go with Ortega. I would love to say Samara Weaving. I bet you she's up there, but I'm going to have to go with Ortega as well. Okay. Is that everybody?

Yep. Okay. So Monica went with Courtney. Rachel went with Jenna Ortega. And so did Joe. All right. Well, this is interesting

because Courtney Cox came up in fourth place. So that's not worth any points. Third place, another kind of surprise one that was uh actor that was thrown in there that we hadn't heard of much for a second uh hayden pantier yeah oh that's right she was because she was in scream four okay yeah that makes sense and then uh joe was uh had good instincts about samara weaving she really is uh uh popular these days for lots of reasons but also the her and margot robbie you

know were out picketing together and got a lot of attention for that and uh so she's she came in at number two and then uh but rachel and joe were both were both right about Jenna Ortega just being a force these days. She's very popular because of the show Wednesday and these two screen movies that she's been in. And so she's number one. So Rachel and Joe have three points. We have a very close game. Joe has four. Monica has three.

And Rachel has four monica has three and rachel has four and monica gets to go first in this third and final round okay and this is more of a thriller than a scary movie technically but it has plenty of horrifying stuff in it if you ask me uh and we're talking about a movie called Sin City starring Mickey Rourke, Clive Owen, Bruce Willis, and a lot of other people. Oh, my God. Okay. Monica, do any of those three names excite you? Or do you want to just name somebody randomly and hope that they were in it? do you want to just name somebody randomly and hope that they were in it i mean this is difficult because they're all not currently maybe in their their peak you know

yeah it was a little bit easier than the other ones because you're like oh people probably searching for jenna ortega right you know uh i think the one i don't know i my my gut is saying bruce willis but then i'm worried that that's just what i know the most you know like that's who i know is more about i guess what has he been doing wait didn't he wasn't there some news about him recently like maybe he was sick or something yeah yeah unfortunately he's got a you know uh it's not a dementia or alzheimer's but it's a similar it's in that ballpark yeah that's a really fucked up reason to be like oh maybe more people are paying attention, but maybe that aids the meter.

Okay, I'm going to go with Bruce Willis, mostly because that's who I know the most about. Yeah, let's talk to Joe, because he's probably seen this movie a million times. A few, yes. Who do you think the top person would be right now? If we're going right now I'm going to have to go with Rosario Dawson just because everybody's talking about her new

Star Wars show She's great in Sin City but I think that just based on popular hits and everything those Star Wars fans sure do love their IMDB so I'm going to go with Rosario Dawson okay

what do you think Rachel? I'll also go with Rosario Dawson I think delegating is a very important skill in life and Joe clearly knows more about movies than I do so I'm just taking his answer I like it I really hope it's not Benicio Del Toro than I do, so I'm just taking his answer. I like it. You need to both verse me this whole time. I really hope it's not

Benicio Del Toro. Okay, Monica, you want to stick with Bruce Willis? No. I'm going to go with Rosario Dawson as well because I did it in the other ones and now i want to i've swayed everyone watch this end up on some website about how to be an alpha male i love this now now i've i've swayed everybody like uh henry fonda in 12 angry was a

trick she's not even in the movie is she yeah, that'd be funny if she wasn't in it. He just sold it so well. But she is in it. But let me give you the full rundown here because this movie had a lot of people in it. And the order is interesting because all the way down at number nine was the great Elijah Wood,

who could not be creepier in that movie. And then number eight is Robert Rodriguez, the director himself, who appears uncredited as a SWAT team member. And he's higher than Elijah Wood. OK, that's. Yeah. You know, because, you know, he's always got new stuff coming out. So people are looking at his name up on the IMDb. And then there's a great YouTube video of uh him making breakfast tacos i've never seen sin

city but when i was in high school i watched this video where he tells you how to make breakfast tacos and i made those tacos like probably 20 and they're great he his whole thing was that and like when i was in film school like when he started with mariachi and desperado he would do five minute movies like five minute um film school where he would show you how he did it and then almost as a parody of that he did the five five minute uh cooking school and i've made those breakfast tacos many times and they are second to none hell yeah all right so number seven is uh somebody we don't see much lately uh vicky rourke uh number six hot off of his turn in oppenheimer as some random dick is uh john hartnett or josh hartnett excuse me uh number five is one of the gilmore girls alexis blodell number four isn't that your profile picture monica no that's that's me that's my face but thank you really are you

serious yeah that's that's my actual face that's so funny because my wife loves uh gilmore girls now i'm thinking about that too much but yeah that's awesome uh number four is joe mentioned him and was worried about it in the show del to. And then coming in at number three, Monica did the right thing by moving off of this one. It was Bruce Willis. And then number two, this is going to shock everybody.

I don't know what she's up to now, but she's popular. Carla Gugino. Gugino. However you want to say it. Another great actress. And then, number one, you all did it.

Congratulations to everybody. Congratulations to all the sheep out there for saying Rosario Dawson. Yes. We did it. Still keeps it the same. I only know her as Cory Booker's ex-girlfriend.

But as soon as you said she was in some sci-fi thing, I was like, yeah, it's her. Okay, she's also Eric Andre's ex-girlfriend. That's what I was going to say. Oh, wow. From Rent. Race to that one.

We got to really quickly settle this score. Unfortunately unfortunately monica you have six points and rachel and joe both have seven so it comes down to rachel and joe and like i said in the beginning joe gets to go first because he won the last game so he's really got the power here we'll see what happens uh michael gamb passed away recently. He played Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies after Richard Harris passed away. But the question is, if you get this right, you win, Joe. If you do not get this right, then Rachel is our winner today. The question is, between these two Dumbledores, the one who just died and the one who's left us, you know, maybe

10 years ago, which one is number one? Which one's higher in popularity on IMDb today? Wait, you mean like in terms of the actor or the

Dumbledore itself? Oh, it's got to be Michael Gambon because he just died. He just died, but it brought up a lot of Richard Harris interest because people decided they needed to have a debate about which was a better Dumbledore. That is true.

Well, I'm going to go with both my favorite Dumbledore and also my favorite dead Dumbledore, and that's going to be Gambler. He's just a terrific actor. And it bugged me that I like Richard Harris too, but it bugged me that, you know, people, like Richard Harris started trending on X, you know, because people were making comparisons.

But you figured it out, Joe. That is the correct answer. You are our winner today. Yay! See, everybody. out, Joe. That is the correct answer. You are our winner today. Yay! Listen, everybody, all the listeners, it pays to watch movies. Sometimes. Yeah, not that often.

There's other activities that pay off as well, but Joe, you are officially our winner today, so you get to do your plugs first. Tell us everything we need to know about Sustainable Flesh opening soon. I don't know. We might just change it now to Sustainable Flesh or maybe Mysterious Skin 2. No, Suitable Flesh is – I would watch Mysterious Skin 2. Big Garaki fan.

No, Suitable Flesh is coming out October 27th in theaters and BOD. It is a very horny, sexy, lovecraft adaptation, cosmic body swap, sexually fluid, queer adventure. It stars Heather Graham, Barbara Cranston, Judah Lewis, Jonathan Sheck, and Bruce Davidson. It just played at Beyond Fest a couple days ago. If you're looking for something a little different,

if you want to make your Halloween a little hornier, look no further. Yeah, it's definitely hornier than your typical horror movie or, you know, especially like zombie movies. Zombies, I'm trying to think. I don't think they have sex very often. No, because they usually devolve into biting each other. So, you know, unless you're into that sort of thing.

They go right to the hickeys and stuff. Okay. Thank you, Joe Lidge, for being here and continuing to dominate. I think it was an error on my part to book you in October. But I'll try to get some horror nerds on the next episode. Rachel McCartney, thank you for joining us and sharing. I think now we know three of the six movies you've seen. Five movies, please. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to I wasn't getting this whole time. I wasn't watching a sixth movie.

All right. What would you like to plug, Rachel? I will be opening for Gary Goldman in Cleveland on November 16th, Hilarity's Theater. And then I will be opening for him in Chicago, November 17th at the Vic. Very cool. And if you'd like to follow me on Instagram. Sell tickets to Gary. No, I know.

This is very much like, what do I have going on in my life? Oh, yeah, I'm opening for this guy who does not need my help whatsoever, but I might as well brag. Yeah, exactly. i love it say hello i'll just plug his book instead buy his book misfit it's very very very good um and follow me on twitter at rachel i'm comedy sorry um i don't use that anymore so follow me on instagram and tiktok oh okay even better yeah monica. Yes. What do you got to plug? Well, you can follow me on social medias just at Monica Neve and November 25th. I'm filming a new special in the Seattle area. It's at a theater called Carco and it is a holiday special.

and it is a holiday special. So all the jokes are about holidays, including Halloween and whatnot. And then that'll come out in December. So yeah, follow me and keep an eye out for that. Buy some tickets for the live taping. Awesome. I am going to be in the aforementioned Cleveland on November 5th at Dunlop's doing a Douglas Movies in the Afternoon and a standup show in the aforementioned cleveland on november 5th at dunlops doing a doug loves movies in the

afternoon and a stand-up show in the evening october 17th the doug loves movies in los angeles has a new home the improv lab at the melrose improv on the third tuesday of every month at least you know that's how we're going to start off and we'll see we'll see how that goes and all of my dates and deets are at douglovesmovies.com thank you once again to joe lynch monica nevy and rachel mccartney what a delightful group and as always i say a last line for my motion picture we picture after we're shows done we'll see if Joe knows what it's from nightmares or dreams madness or sanity

I don't know which is which now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie eyes of gold his viewing prowess makes it cocky there's no room in his heart for you, cause Doug loves movies!