EXTRA ANORMAL - EL DEMONIO Que Pedía Dulces | RELATOS Macabros de HALLOWEEN

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

“Si alguna vez escuchas que tocan tu puerta en Halloween… no siempre es un niño con disfraz. A veces, son los que nunca pudieron irse.”En este Especial de Halloween nos adentramos en las noches... más oscuras del año para contar historias reales y leyendas que hielan la sangre. 👁️‍🗨️🔮 Escucha el relato de la niña fallecida que seguía pidiendo dulces por las calles de Washington... una historia que terminó en tragedia.🔥 Conoce el verdadero origen de Jack O’Lantern, el hombre que engañó al diablo y fue condenado a vagar eternamente con una calabaza encendida.😱 Descubre los testimonios de quienes escucharon el lamento de La Llorona en Oaxaca, y la teoría que la conecta con Tonantzin, la madre sagrada.👻 Además, una fiesta de Halloween en una ex hacienda termina con apariciones demoníacas, y una fábrica maldita que fue usada como fosa clandestina.Prepárate para un episodio lleno de terror, misterio, brujería y leyendas.Suscríbete 🔔, deja tu like 👍 y comparte este especial para que más personas conozcan el lado oscuro de las noches de Halloween.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Every 31 of October, the streets are filled with risas, disfrases, and calabasas. But, detrase of all that fiesta, there's a lot more oscura that people are
Starting point is 00:00:10 to tryveen to make a his own to offer a exact. ...debide that he had bought
Starting point is 00:00:18 months. ... Dicen that in Halloween, the line between the lives and mortals,
Starting point is 00:00:24 it's so delgated that a Sometimes what gets to your house, not only are kids, pithing news, a few get in spirits,
Starting point is 00:00:33 not only with the end of provokart to you, but with the intention to get to the murder. A little, they're in a
Starting point is 00:00:42 fabric, at a few kilometers of their house, obviously the she was a mother. There are multiple testimonies
Starting point is 00:00:53 of persons that have ever experimented an encounter inexplicable, the Noche of Bruchas. And, today, we'll open the door for that you know you.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Well, welcome. I don't know. What I'm going to be able to be What How much. What How much
Starting point is 00:01:36 to a my name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be in a chapter for all of you
Starting point is 00:01:46 family I want to want to say this is our special of Halloween. Histories sinistras, histories oscuras that occurred on 31 of October.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It's said for there, for some people, that in these feces, is more easy that the mal have desuelted for all the earth. And for that, can't occurring things that don't
Starting point is 00:02:09 have an explanation. In this night, we're going to tell you these stories that occurred in Day of Bruchas, in Halloween,
Starting point is 00:02:17 and that for many people, not was a festejo. It was a that was too a bit
Starting point is 00:02:23 too too too too much people people live with
Starting point is 00:02:28 these malos that they're to hear to all this today.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Today us a person very special that we're also
Starting point is 00:02:37 to talk many things that I sure that we're to
Starting point is 00:02:40 get to Alejandro Morten how is how is him
Starting point is 00:02:44 much good it's an honor for me to
Starting point is 00:02:47 accompany and much of having me invited, for having us invited to those Mortem, to your program, a grand program,
Starting point is 00:02:54 a program, I think of the best, or if not is that the good. Much of the podcast. It's a pleasure,
Starting point is 00:03:01 man, to be here with you. Much thanks. Hermannito, the fact, I'm very
Starting point is 00:03:04 enthusiasticado because, I don't know, we're all who we're people who are nottes of the genera paranormal.
Starting point is 00:03:10 We're apposuanan the phenomenon in see and to be able a special of Halloween me put
Starting point is 00:03:17 a lot of entucisemned, a nervous, I know what you're going to talk about. So,
Starting point is 00:03:22 it's going to start a lot of interesting. Before to start to say to all the
Starting point is 00:03:26 audience, that for favor, they're on the lights, if you are in the
Starting point is 00:03:30 time, you're in the gymnasia, listen with what we going to talk about because,
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm sure, I'm sure, that many people are to do this episode. Also, I'm going
Starting point is 00:03:40 to say, if it's the first time that's a time, I want to give you the
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Starting point is 00:04:06 be with a phenomenon that so super that brutal that can't mention
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Starting point is 00:04:21 com. com. All right. So, you put in your buscador and there's
Starting point is 00:04:25 there. Before to start, also for the audience that you are doing? Of course.
Starting point is 00:04:30 For favor, presentate who are you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:04:34 do you know, my name Alejandro Mortem, I'm director creator and
Starting point is 00:04:38 director of the Museum of the Aurora in the city of Saltio
Starting point is 00:04:41 Coahuila. Yeah we have some some of the years, dedicating us to the reds social, in specific to visit places, explore,
Starting point is 00:04:50 places embruged, places with stories sinister, places where have occurred, socesos very macabros, socesos,
Starting point is 00:05:00 for the life real, and where a lot of people, a time, to enter, especially in the night. In fin,
Starting point is 00:05:09 the investigation paranormal, as is a commonly, is something of what we we're doing we're doing
Starting point is 00:05:14 we're in the media social networks, Reds social we're like a museum of the horror museum of the
Starting point is 00:05:21 world and Alejandro Morten also in all the perfecto oh yeah before to start
Starting point is 00:05:27 with these stories I'd question to question your opinion about of these
Starting point is 00:05:32 things that are that they're to be one with things spiritual and other
Starting point is 00:05:38 with some little more criminales but that occur directly in Halloween. Why in Halloween? Because in these feces dole of things
Starting point is 00:05:50 that are more than faredes that are more than than what normal. Look, see how good that you talk to that point, precisely of that I'll talk about a little bit more than. Much of people, it has associated the Halloween,
Starting point is 00:06:06 the night of Bruchas the 31 of October, with the devil. So, in diverse sects, even me to try to say that in
Starting point is 00:06:16 some religions they're this day precisely for the the creencia of the energies,
Starting point is 00:06:24 that flue more a energy to make a little that even in the frontes of
Starting point is 00:06:29 the inframund it's a lot of situations where the demonio or the demons,
Starting point is 00:06:35 legions of the demonios come to the earth to take to the
Starting point is 00:06:39 mal. So, so it has associated much to this and much people, much
Starting point is 00:06:45 people, a lot of the time, especially people people transorned, psychopaths,
Starting point is 00:06:53 people who has a situation mental, and a good, precisely for the
Starting point is 00:07:00 dark, for the dark, for this theme, that also that is part of,
Starting point is 00:07:04 I think has much to be, and for so, a like the rituals. There are things
Starting point is 00:07:12 very, very delicate referent to this thing that we're talking about, like the actual of the sacrifices,
Starting point is 00:07:19 both humans and the animals, but principally are things that finally, I always I've said,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and I say, the person human or I think that's the problem. Always. Totally.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Totally. 100. 100. Since years immemoriales, the human has
Starting point is 00:07:36 committed the grave error of manchard, to So, well, to transform all these creations.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And to do a context before, before we're celebrating us, Halloween, the day
Starting point is 00:07:49 of today. It's a interesting because from the old Celtas, this that came
Starting point is 00:07:56 because has been, since a time, millions of years, it's celebrated because
Starting point is 00:08:01 they had a creence, they're celebrating the solstice of the winter. They were
Starting point is 00:08:06 they celebrated practically this year new, Celtah. where, well, they were
Starting point is 00:08:12 they were they were also their but it's interesting because they were they were the thing that
Starting point is 00:08:19 the night of the night of October, was something, something that was over-natural, something that's
Starting point is 00:08:26 there was a portal, it was an portal energetic where were these spirits
Starting point is 00:08:33 to the world, to the earth, they were, and could pass things
Starting point is 00:08:37 paranormal. Of actually of there And there's very a semeagued that the
Starting point is 00:08:40 people disfrace that they used that they used that they're that they're to be
Starting point is 00:08:47 disapercivids between these spirits and that they're not they're a deal, that then
Starting point is 00:08:54 in that was the calabaza the calabasa and is something more contemporaneous something
Starting point is 00:08:59 a little more new if we want to see we we're like in
Starting point is 00:09:04 the United for these people who get to this country. But it's interesting,
Starting point is 00:09:10 Erman, all what what occurs in this plan that usually cause much more fear,
Starting point is 00:09:16 much about to start. I want to tell a story, if me do you know, and to
Starting point is 00:09:22 know your point of this this story is called travesura and that he's
Starting point is 00:09:28 umberto. Umberto us says that in the year 2014 presentio one of the things
Starting point is 00:09:36 more firtes tragic that occurred during the night of the
Starting point is 00:09:41 October. What happened? We said he he went to the United to Houston
Starting point is 00:09:47 because he went to pass for there some vacations very with the
Starting point is 00:09:52 family. He knows he's Christian completely creyentes in the
Starting point is 00:09:58 Christenism no celebrate they're the day of Murtos Halloween
Starting point is 00:10:02 nothing that has to have to some things but in
Starting point is 00:10:05 the States United is celebrated much more the time of Halloween
Starting point is 00:10:09 is very common. So the kids are in the nights to pay dulces,
Starting point is 00:10:14 to pay calaverita as they say they're and they are going and they're
Starting point is 00:10:18 going to other children disfrasas of momias of vampires of house,
Starting point is 00:10:23 some some those people who doing this and it's something very
Starting point is 00:10:27 beautiful I don't independently of the prigmas and the things as
Starting point is 00:10:31 like you do you divirt you you And he says that he He gets this
Starting point is 00:10:38 night, he was there, his tios, all ignoring all what he occurred outside, but they're they're very creyentes of the
Starting point is 00:10:46 Christianism. Tantto that those were the pastors of the church where they went. So, then
Starting point is 00:10:53 he said, I'm, I'm, all normal, he prepares, he'll be, he'll be, we're going to
Starting point is 00:10:59 sender. He said, he's, he, you, see, you, it's a somas for the
Starting point is 00:11:01 ventana to see the lot of people passing those people there's there vestiges disfrasated
Starting point is 00:11:07 of what and it was and it's a me and it's something that's something that's really
Starting point is 00:11:13 that's very magical. The kids, you know that in these two houses
Starting point is 00:11:19 not a Halloween so the kids evitabed for these because
Starting point is 00:11:24 they were that not were they were not they were to be to
Starting point is 00:11:30 start. And, he said, they were passing the hours, it's it's been to be more time, the
Starting point is 00:11:36 time when the kids are to ask it's at time, seven, for very late at the
Starting point is 00:11:42 eight, at the nine. So, it's rare that I'm a little and a very tardy,
Starting point is 00:11:48 bidding dulces, that's that is strange. He said he's put to be a
Starting point is 00:11:52 movie with his primos, with his tios, and of they've done the timbre of the
Starting point is 00:11:58 house. And, And it's so rare because they were at the
Starting point is 00:12:02 11 of the night 11 and about. And he's he's he's he says
Starting point is 00:12:08 to say to the don't so don't go, he's a
Starting point is 00:12:12 he's a see that's a little you know they they're
Starting point is 00:12:17 that's a little there no I'm a one of six years
Starting point is 00:12:22 vestida like like a muke of porcelana with
Starting point is 00:12:25 a vestido of a encage his carita very a
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like if it was like if it were grietas in the Rostro. And he says that the kids are who is? It's a little bit of No, well, no, so no, if I'm going to open. Porecita, no,
Starting point is 00:12:44 he's going to walk around the house alone. Abre the door and says that the girl in any moment says some word, no
Starting point is 00:12:51 says nothing. Only extend his two manitas with her calaver and he says, well, I revised in the
Starting point is 00:12:59 pantalon, because in the airport, I bought there are some golosines for the voyage. No, me las comies. And yeah, I just deposito there, some, those dulces. Yeah, the little, yeah, the little bit, the calabrita, so it's a little bit, and it begins to come in. But the
Starting point is 00:13:13 little bit more, very strange, very rara. He says that can't, asia, to the center, and still he's still, and he gets looking to the house. Tantto, he says, that I'm said, this little bit of my
Starting point is 00:13:24 these, you know, this is the little does it transmit you know, it's really, it's really,
Starting point is 00:13:29 it's a really, and so, well, I'm going, I'm going, he says, and he's,
Starting point is 00:13:35 to come in the house of the house of the pastors. Then, to be
Starting point is 00:13:42 if they're and, and so, says, for the hour, it's too, it's a
Starting point is 00:13:46 time, and says, but it's a little, it's not, not,
Starting point is 00:13:51 not is, not, not is, I'm, of an adult. I mean, it could be dangerous, obviously. The little, the little, come in, and
Starting point is 00:13:57 says, Umberto, I, of chismoso, me kept, looking, looking if he abren, if no, what what happens? And I've been, and I see, the spouse of the pastor, the pastor, he says, the little, does the same, no says, simply, he extends
Starting point is 00:14:13 his manita, with her calaverita, and, um, and he said, the pastor, my And the little, we don't celebrate that. But if you permit you, I want to bless you. I mean, I want to pray for you. And he says that the
Starting point is 00:14:28 little bit in silence. No said, no, in any moment he said, he said, looking, and they kept looking. Passed two seconds very, very strange. The signora, she kept in
Starting point is 00:14:39 silence, mirandola. The little, she did the world, and he started to comeinar. And when he begins to caminar, the young again
Starting point is 00:14:47 and he kept looking and he went. Very rare very very
Starting point is 00:14:51 strange. Passed. Passed the hours. Umberto said that's
Starting point is 00:14:55 going to get to do this all right. In the morning he said a little
Starting point is 00:15:00 really because I said I started much noise in the cell. Much
Starting point is 00:15:04 people went to a lot of people came to start syrenas. What
Starting point is 00:15:09 happened? He said that he's he's he's occurring. He does
Starting point is 00:15:15 count that the pastors are in their house, they're talking about with
Starting point is 00:15:18 his tios, there many much movement policies, what, what's
Starting point is 00:15:23 what was and he said, he said, he said, and and he is where he
Starting point is 00:15:30 he's and he heard and that the daughter of his had disappeared.
Starting point is 00:15:37 A woman of four years. They're started to investigate how
Starting point is 00:15:43 was that the she disappears, because the house in no moment was open, the doors, the windows, all the windows, all was sure. It was impossible
Starting point is 00:15:54 that a person disappeared of the house, but doors and windows were completely sealed. So, they started to mobilize. The only, the only that
Starting point is 00:16:05 they were ageno in the quarter of the little, was in her Kama, a piece of paper written
Starting point is 00:16:15 with Krayola that said travesura. So it was the only kind of that's
Starting point is 00:16:22 the policeia still doing those investigations, roading all the perimeter,
Starting point is 00:16:28 all the house, they're there, some some visits, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:33 they're they're looking to the little because you know
Starting point is 00:16:37 that in those things sometimes So then, pasted the days and nothing, and nothing, and nothing. Passed exactly 20 days
Starting point is 00:16:49 when the policeia intensified, the buskedom and they're to find a little bit. But this is something very tricky, because this, unfortunately, this occurs 20 days
Starting point is 00:17:02 after, almost the month. A little bit of a new year, they're in a few kilometers of their house. Obviously, the
Starting point is 00:17:12 little she was a mother. No had sign like of torture
Starting point is 00:17:19 or profanation. No had nothing. Simply the the she had fellecided.
Starting point is 00:17:25 The only strange, the only extrano is that had
Starting point is 00:17:30 one one robes, a vestido that not of the woman
Starting point is 00:17:34 not of her. The vestido was very very the little bit of Dulles.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And, and, on the little that was a little was a paper written,
Starting point is 00:17:49 the word travesura in crayola, a one of the this this this
Starting point is 00:17:57 some he's something that he's something that in this part of the U.
Starting point is 00:18:05 S. because it's one of these tantos, or so it's, like,
Starting point is 00:18:10 it's one of these many of these tantos crimes that occurred in Halloween, but he
Starting point is 00:18:15 who lived very much and said is that Paco, the little no moment out of the
Starting point is 00:18:20 house. The doors were sealed. So, for the police,
Starting point is 00:18:23 obviously is a crime, but for us, and for my Tios,
Starting point is 00:18:27 even the pastors, the parents of the children, no couldn't be a
Starting point is 00:18:31 because really the house was completely serrated. No there had a
Starting point is 00:18:37 form of the she'd not existia. So, so it was a completely
Starting point is 00:18:41 super confused not this conclusion. I don't do you. A crime without
Starting point is 00:18:48 to many of many, of the many. Effectively, it's very interesting
Starting point is 00:18:53 the fact of that occur in situations so, because now we don't
Starting point is 00:18:59 talking of something with a crime such quite committed by
Starting point is 00:19:05 a person. in this case, in many of the cases, we're talking of possibly the manifestation of some, of an spirit, or entity,
Starting point is 00:19:15 precisely, of some of a little, for what you mention as that the vestido not pertene to, the vestido that
Starting point is 00:19:23 the little not pertinacy to her, so are situations incredible, but possible. And I, in the personal,
Starting point is 00:19:31 I, see, for the same that you, of some stories, so very, very tetric that, at the end of the end up you know, you're
Starting point is 00:19:38 a little bit of a response. That's. Some response. For that I said, right, crime is, and resolve. There have been many, many
Starting point is 00:19:46 cases in the life real, that really they get to get a very, very surprised. So, even I've tried to
Starting point is 00:19:55 even with the book-abirted, are things incredible, and many of these come to the person, a basis,
Starting point is 00:20:00 to first, because, because they they're some story, in an anecdote.
Starting point is 00:20:07 What I think in reality is that effectively I'm actually I think that
Starting point is 00:20:14 many of these in the aspect of portals, in the aspect of feches.
Starting point is 00:20:20 There are things that have nothing to be for example with fechas created
Starting point is 00:20:24 for the people because from because That's. That's that's
Starting point is 00:20:33 that's we're so I'm so I'm it's possible that there an interaction of
Starting point is 00:20:42 the seres, of spirits, energies, even I even I have said, and I have done
Starting point is 00:20:46 in various occasions in some platticas of the things that are not of this
Starting point is 00:20:51 dimension. Just. And that can get even to even to crosser these
Starting point is 00:20:55 plans and to a certain not to live but But if aderrists,
Starting point is 00:21:03 or, of a certain form, be able to be able to that's why I'm that's what I'm to be
Starting point is 00:21:11 with the situation of the little bit but at the way is very, very macabro. Demaccio.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yes, for the supposed. So, and I think, I put from the feet of
Starting point is 00:21:23 the family. Sure. They know that the conclusion official was this, no? The crime.
Starting point is 00:21:30 but you that you did you know you know that you know it's not there's no no there's there's
Starting point is 00:21:38 exactly talking about allmas errantes of almas in pen of the beings that they vagan that they're
Starting point is 00:21:44 I want to talk about something I don't know if you know you know of the traditions
Starting point is 00:21:50 of the calabasa precisely that that they celebrate in the United
Starting point is 00:21:55 actually is a I think the only the only country that the
Starting point is 00:21:58 festeage that level like if was a tradition nativa of them
Starting point is 00:22:02 yeah, so totally but well, in fin I'm accorded right
Starting point is 00:22:07 of that history because precisely it has to be with the kind of
Starting point is 00:22:12 the calabaza now in Halloween in the feste of the night
Starting point is 00:22:16 of the three of October there there was a many
Starting point is 00:22:22 many years recently where there existed a person
Starting point is 00:22:26 a number called Jack O'Ladner if you know so I think this personage should be able to know more
Starting point is 00:22:37 precisely for the history for the legend and we're talking of a person that was known precisely for the maldad was the maldada
Starting point is 00:22:46 was the maldada in carnada of all of actually many of the stories that they're not they're
Starting point is 00:22:50 not they're not just they're not more that was that was a born that was a person
Starting point is 00:22:55 problematic that was a stafiator. But, but they don't much the
Starting point is 00:23:00 part of that the malddad that he had a raigada from was so
Starting point is 00:23:05 that in really he got to commit to many. It was very astut too.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Totally. Totally. It was a burlone. It was a really, but the
Starting point is 00:23:16 deletos that he committed, there are many things that not on the
Starting point is 00:23:20 internet, precisely for the degree of that he was the what he did,
Starting point is 00:23:26 It was, for I think I think in what the most it was in the staph in the
Starting point is 00:23:33 stafa in the manit in the stafa in the he was to live
Starting point is 00:23:38 to be to be in the party etc. I know for what reason
Starting point is 00:23:43 me call much the attention that the demonio the
Starting point is 00:23:48 devil and the story that he got to enter
Starting point is 00:23:51 of the existence of this person of this man The
Starting point is 00:23:56 Diablo He was curiousity Yeah, that is strange I mean the
Starting point is 00:24:02 human get to commit acts very very very very
Starting point is 00:24:05 so so that so exactly yeah that is there
Starting point is 00:24:11 is there is that and so about he he went to he
Starting point is 00:24:14 he went to the mald so that that there in
Starting point is 00:24:19 the in the one a night in in
Starting point is 00:24:23 well, in his noches of a boorrachera the diablo does a presence
Starting point is 00:24:28 he appears he comes to visit him he took the luch of that the same
Starting point is 00:24:34 demon he said his good, fortune or misfortune the
Starting point is 00:24:40 diablo he appears between the somras Jack he's going
Starting point is 00:24:46 and he divisa between the form a form a bolt something
Starting point is 00:24:52 that I was observing. He, obviously, as he was not in his five senses, no sent him so much
Starting point is 00:25:00 he thought that possibly was that someone who wanted to play or, no, I know, et cetera, someone who
Starting point is 00:25:07 was there was still, the devil does a presence he, he's right to him, and he says
Starting point is 00:25:15 that, he's, that he came for him, that came to reclamar his life that he
Starting point is 00:25:20 pertaince, for the acts that he has committed. The devil, the intention of him was simply to take his soul and to do the part of the grand collection that has, for sure. Jack,
Starting point is 00:25:34 I think no he important. A part of that I felt a lot of a time, he no, he simply thought, well, it's my fin. Well, well, yeah. We're to, go, to where you me indicate, is
Starting point is 00:25:47 the only that I want to I want to ask is an ultimate desire. He commented Jack, to the demonia.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He said, I desire a time a good to part of to partier, before to get me
Starting point is 00:26:00 with me to get my last day here in the earth, I would like to me
Starting point is 00:26:05 come up a little desire. And the devil, me, I'm a surprise
Starting point is 00:26:08 he said, he's going to come to your ultimate desire. He said,
Starting point is 00:26:14 I'd would be to be to they're in a can't can'tina,
Starting point is 00:26:18 they're and the the devil passed totally dispercived of course, he's camouflaged.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But, however, yeah, he's to be able, even he's to say
Starting point is 00:26:30 that he invited the last round, he to tell to all the
Starting point is 00:26:32 people that's that's that's that's that the time,
Starting point is 00:26:37 that the thing, pass the time, pass the time, even some
Starting point is 00:26:44 some some part of hours, maybe. And, well, yeah, it's the moment of
Starting point is 00:26:50 to pay. He said, Jack, precisely, he's directed to the devil and he says that
Starting point is 00:26:54 he's not money to cover the the debt. He said, why not you can't you turn to
Starting point is 00:27:02 a money of a money and so I can pay and we can't get rider. The
Starting point is 00:27:07 Diablo, accede, for supposed, I was anxious for get to get to
Starting point is 00:27:11 the It's a money of Plata. Jack, he'll take, but in instead of his account,
Starting point is 00:27:22 he's he's in his box. Resulted that Jack had a rosario of
Starting point is 00:27:30 a plastic precisely in the box, one with his crus. This manner,
Starting point is 00:27:36 he trapped the devil. He was he was in his bolsa, and no I could
Starting point is 00:27:40 the devil to do absolutely nothing. Jack Burlon, for supposed, a despite
Starting point is 00:27:46 that was the same demonio, a past of that he had that that's
Starting point is 00:27:50 that much they're to have and much others not, he's to be
Starting point is 00:27:55 to be to do and he said, we'll do you let me live,
Starting point is 00:28:00 let me live, and I do you give the opportunity of you marches,
Starting point is 00:28:05 of that you get to the where you know that's the
Starting point is 00:28:08 demonio accepta he's it's okay, let's do you your
Starting point is 00:28:12 soul my pertensens but I'm going to give 10 years more
Starting point is 00:28:17 a change to you and in 10 years I'm going to your
Starting point is 00:28:22 al-to-al- and do you do the deal with his life of the defrenes
Starting point is 00:28:28 with his life with his bad habits of bad habits incrementing even
Starting point is 00:28:34 of actually the things illegal that he got to commit and
Starting point is 00:28:39 pass the time pass in the 10 years and And he will be visit
Starting point is 00:28:46 the devil. Wulbe to visit him of the infamund, the senior of the obscurity. And precisely he said, I've been
Starting point is 00:28:53 yeah, for your soul, he passed the time, accorded, and I have been for
Starting point is 00:28:59 you. I've got to even, the story that the two, as when they're
Starting point is 00:29:04 again one with one with one. You know exactly. Exactly. And the
Starting point is 00:29:09 malddad, I think was very similar. No, I don't think is similar, but it was, well, of a mortal, as a deity of the infamund,
Starting point is 00:29:17 no can't compare. But, however, it was so that he he liked, well, I'm not going to, but I'm sorry, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:29:26 my time, we're going to go to new, they're going to get to a vered, Jack, he will be a mention to the demonio.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Talbue, maybe he's a plan, maybe, maybe it's he'll know, but he comment to he can't, that he has been
Starting point is 00:29:39 that he'd want to come something. There's a an arbor, a big of fruit.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And he did Jack to the demonio that is he can get a little
Starting point is 00:29:50 because no can't it's very high. The demonio
Starting point is 00:29:53 is up. Arranka the fruit of the arthur and before to back
Starting point is 00:29:59 he's percate that Jack had had had done some crosses
Starting point is 00:30:03 of salt in the soil around the this was for that the
Starting point is 00:30:08 demonio not that the story. is what the story you can
Starting point is 00:30:14 you can't to think and use your imagination and in the demonio no can
Starting point is 00:30:19 go back Jack notamently he's burl of him and he even
Starting point is 00:30:24 he even to mention that he he says the same diablo that he is more
Starting point is 00:30:28 astut than he he he is more he he said he said he
Starting point is 00:30:33 he propone a jack to the diablo the devil
Starting point is 00:30:38 surprised and for supposed, very molest, he was irving to be able to
Starting point is 00:30:42 get ridgien to be a mortal, not? You imagine? Exactly. In the momentaneously,
Starting point is 00:30:49 momentaneously, for supposed. Yeah. Accepts the diablo, and he said,
Starting point is 00:30:53 well, let's what is your trato. He said, I'm going to give opportunity,
Starting point is 00:30:57 he said, I'm going to give opportunity to that you know to get to get
Starting point is 00:31:04 to the inframund, to the same if you perdonas the the debt that
Starting point is 00:31:09 I have with the fact of your reclambar my alma
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm my life and I to give to give to give to
Starting point is 00:31:16 the devil he'll think to be a think and
Starting point is 00:31:21 think he he he and he and finally
Starting point is 00:31:25 accept the he says okay I go I
Starting point is 00:31:28 to let get in liberty and never more
Starting point is 00:31:32 I will be to you you you be
Starting point is 00:31:35 free of me Jack triumphant ryingdose, accepta also. There's
Starting point is 00:31:46 a situation there, of the which Jack, like a simple mortal, no,
Starting point is 00:31:51 the devil he imposed a seal. The devil, yeah, when he was able,
Starting point is 00:31:55 he put a maldition, he was he was in liberty, but he was to to begar
Starting point is 00:32:02 and to errar for the rest of the eternity in the sunras, in the
Starting point is 00:32:07 He no he was ever to to reclam his soul, no could
Starting point is 00:32:13 go back for him to get to get us to get to the hells of the
Starting point is 00:32:18 hell to the sea no obviously not for the absolutely
Starting point is 00:32:24 in the in the sky in the sky not no no, no no the trats
Starting point is 00:32:31 that had been with the demonio and that was one of those most high pavos
Starting point is 00:32:37 that he had had his liberty but he the condena was bagar
Starting point is 00:32:43 in the earth bagar in the sunbras in the obscurity in the
Starting point is 00:32:48 in the way when he got he can know he can not can
Starting point is 00:32:53 find the peace no can't he can't not
Starting point is 00:32:57 he he he not could be he not could be
Starting point is 00:33:02 he he he is to take a place a nabo, a nabo, a nabo,
Starting point is 00:33:11 a nabo, primarily, nothing as the nabos are little, to this manner to put in a
Starting point is 00:33:17 carbond on a bros, a braza and illuminars a little. Sin and however,
Starting point is 00:33:23 he did know that the nau was very little, and then then he a calabasa.
Starting point is 00:33:28 A calabasa, well, he introduces effectively also the baraz, the carbom, and in this
Starting point is 00:33:34 manner Jack Vaga Vaga for the world. He says that until the Fecha, he comes a rounder between the views
Starting point is 00:33:42 on 31 of October, a night of and precisely how they call the night also the night of the night of the
Starting point is 00:33:50 dayblo, a 31 of October for persons and not creyent, but it's a lot of these situations.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The people for that starts to callasas and so did the tradition to put
Starting point is 00:34:02 calabasas apart of what is the the autumn, for a time of calabas and all this. Because they they were the
Starting point is 00:34:10 thing that if they were in the way of Jack with the same calabaza, Jack, not going to
Starting point is 00:34:15 get to the door to your house to tormenting, to be to start to terrorizart because
Starting point is 00:34:22 not a person a good visuallyally. Imagine the the soul of the soul of
Starting point is 00:34:27 someone that's man who penando? Sure. Figate that this story
Starting point is 00:34:31 has much time that did it I did. And I want to share this story is like your version a little
Starting point is 00:34:40 would be the Yorona. The Yorana is Mexican. Obviously or at least of Latin America. But the history of Jack of Lander is Irish. Lanesa, exactly. But in Irelanda
Starting point is 00:34:56 not is a legend. So, if it's a legend. But the people the people cre ferviently that you can't find to this
Starting point is 00:35:07 ser, no see if this call this even a man that still not can be born in
Starting point is 00:35:13 incarnate in incarnate think that you can't you can't you the tradition in a
Starting point is 00:35:20 principle more or more or less for the century 19 18 yeah approximately
Starting point is 00:35:25 the people put this outside not for adorned but it's like a protection
Starting point is 00:35:30 what is. Traducid to Mexico, what you can put a cross out of your house, that's,
Starting point is 00:35:36 that the light of your house, these measures of protection that are very Mexican if we're
Starting point is 00:35:41 to go to Ireland, there are the carbasas. Exactly. Because the people, all have
Starting point is 00:35:46 this out practically is like you say, he says to you say to Jack, for
Starting point is 00:35:51 here no. So, I mean, this so it's interesting to share because
Starting point is 00:35:55 there like this messla, no, of creencies. And that Obviously, these immigrants, when get to the United,
Starting point is 00:36:03 they're going to all these creensions, and it's curious because there are in the United States where it's where it's.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Where it's. Yeah, that's, where it's, the origin. Yes, and right mentions,
Starting point is 00:36:13 you make a reference to the comparison to the Yorona. Here, I mean, in Mexico, it's very frequent
Starting point is 00:36:21 that in some part, they've heard a Yorona or it's that in times, for example,
Starting point is 00:36:27 of the the jubia, is more frequent the apparition of this Alma in Pena, of the Yorona, is something similar, and you know,
Starting point is 00:36:34 are so, are similar, that at final of the count, can get to be in a legend, but that finally
Starting point is 00:36:41 many of the people, surely, I'm sure, I'm sure that you know, I've seen a Yorona. I've heard.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I've heard of that. I've heard of that. You know, go to that's right, right. And right,
Starting point is 00:36:53 so, because this, you I've told, I don't, I've said, I'm, So, yeah, yeah, I was when I
Starting point is 00:36:58 was when I was around 19 years, I went to the capital of Oaxaca, we were various friends that were there in a
Starting point is 00:37:06 business, and I remember that we came to come to a whole thing, and we went to us to dinner to
Starting point is 00:37:13 a place to be a lot of I don't know if it's still still a various years, as a
Starting point is 00:37:18 like the is a restaurant very beautiful. I don't do it is publicity and not,
Starting point is 00:37:22 but so we're we're to this place, Admirator, we were all in an auto. I remember perfectly because we were 9 people in a vehicle that is for... In auto sardine. Yeah, of course. We went to see.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Modo, auto sardine, in that then, I was very delgado. Okay. So, then there was a bono. We went to dinner. We went to dinner. We went to dinner, we were... So, we still, we're at the restaurant
Starting point is 00:37:47 and, as you're, you're in a cerro, you're in a serro, really. Okay. the city emmose, imponent, the lights, it's all
Starting point is 00:37:55 all over, so we're in a restaurant today, like, we're like all in the restaurant,
Starting point is 00:38:02 and we're talking, some, some, there's, they're taking a tobacco, but, you know, it was,
Starting point is 00:38:07 it was a pretty, and we're there's, we were the time, we're getting about the
Starting point is 00:38:12 one of the morning, and I'm and I'm and then, let us, let's, let's,
Starting point is 00:38:16 let's, let's, we're, we, we're we, we, we're, we, we, we,
Starting point is 00:38:20 And, well, is a little, the trajectory not so long, but, well, is to go to serro. Okay. And yeah, we go to all. So, it was all in silence, like, like, to be, we started to talk about. And if, no, no, never felt the amigua, no, I don't know how to call it, but the amigrudent,
Starting point is 00:38:38 we're going to say, imprudent. No. No. So, yeah, if you know what, you know, you know, you know, you know, the people, because he was right there, The people here say that says that's a yorona for these rums and all say,
Starting point is 00:38:52 ah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know, we're saying, you know, we're saying, you know, yeah, yeah, you know, you're gonna, you know, and this, no, in serious, neta. Here, the people, listen to the yoreen, yeah, c'allemeter, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, the ventanilla of the vehicle, that's, yorona, manifestat, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:39:18 And I started to say to him, and I started to say, then, then, cabron, yeah, cacky, no. Erman, has the count that, yeah, well, he calmed, pass an like, what do you like? Like two minutes. Yeah, we're going to, so in complete silence. This, and, and, of the front of the obscurity, of the cerro, all,
Starting point is 00:39:39 we'll, we'll hear, but I'm going to say that's a lament, inhuman. I mean, so, no is a lament that's a problem for an
Starting point is 00:39:49 woman. It's a lament that, like, as the testimonies, you call
Starting point is 00:39:54 to the gues. So, you know, and you see your your body, your
Starting point is 00:40:00 material, it's tremese and you know, that's listening something that you
Starting point is 00:40:03 know, and the first time that all we're all we're we've used like a
Starting point is 00:40:10 musicita in the vehicle, then it's like it's It's all, like, we're we're looking like, and the
Starting point is 00:40:18 that's going to, back the volume, and segued, or the sound, again. And the sound, it was, like, from the, much more, above, of the Cerro, where, where there's, where there's, where there's no, and there's a, and so, and all, like, like, is in serious, and I, and, I,
Starting point is 00:40:36 so, but, no, it's, like, as, like, normally, oh, my My kids, no, no. No, no. It's a lament. It's a woman that's like soyo-sand-and-and, and it's a really that I can't explain. But that's, you call.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You know, it's a caul, it's a scalo-frie. And, to really, this chabot, he was like, eh? Look, cullied-it-o. The type, he's almost to rest. We're, like, what's, what's going? And, he said, the friend who was managing. Well, for those who don't want to, there is she. she. Because if you,
Starting point is 00:41:12 the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, they're very close to the cerro. So, so
Starting point is 00:41:18 it was like I heard of, you know, I've seen, you know, I'm really, I'm really, I'm just
Starting point is 00:41:24 to hear the stories, because many times you, platicas with the people, and at some, you get to
Starting point is 00:41:31 omitir the platica for the, for the same, that you can't say, this people, will think
Starting point is 00:41:36 that I'm going to think that I'm thinking, I'm thinking, etc. In fact I love
Starting point is 00:41:41 when the people count and even of the first of you're saying
Starting point is 00:41:45 that you do you do you I'm and I'm part of that you and then
Starting point is 00:41:50 you know you'll get the real terror the real I'm
Starting point is 00:41:54 to tell so I'm briefly I'm I my adolescence
Starting point is 00:41:59 in a place in a place between serros precisely
Starting point is 00:42:03 me really really to be we're to be Exactly where I was in the
Starting point is 00:42:10 the living in the living in the back of the cross, almost between the same
Starting point is 00:42:15 the same. I was I was a little time. I first I lived in my new year's. I'm going to get my mom.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We had a little time to live in that place and started the people to
Starting point is 00:42:31 talk to that's that in the serro had in situations. It was a zone
Starting point is 00:42:37 roja, for to say, a place, uh, a zone where there were
Starting point is 00:42:41 people mal-vient and all that, not much, but yeah, people,
Starting point is 00:42:45 so, very, very, so, people, people of drugs and alcohol and
Starting point is 00:42:50 all that, etc. The people thought, that possibly were the, they were, the persons
Starting point is 00:42:57 that were to, to make to make substances, and so they were they're
Starting point is 00:43:00 enlokecated, et cetera, and that were the Sometimes, aogid, gritos, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But as you you know, you get to get to when something not is human. When something
Starting point is 00:43:14 is something not human, immediately you can't perceive. Sure. In fin,
Starting point is 00:43:19 pass the time. I always from I've been very nocturn. Very
Starting point is 00:43:25 nocturn. My family also. In one on a occasion, we were
Starting point is 00:43:31 talking, it was just It was a time. It was a very, very late. It was a end of the night. It was about the 2 of the morning, two of the madrugat.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It was my mom, was an brother, a tia, and was I. We were talking and, in fact, we were talking a coffee. We'd like much, as well,
Starting point is 00:43:50 like, commonly sometimes they're all the families to talk to, et cetera. We're talking. In that, in that, it's to hear specifically
Starting point is 00:43:59 a lament, not a lament, it was a sound that was the sound that had been with the wind. Aha.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Something that was like if the wind soplar and he disfrasa
Starting point is 00:44:08 with the but not is the sound of the wind
Starting point is 00:44:12 so is. You can find the the blood, you
Starting point is 00:44:16 look distinguish in where you lookes that that's
Starting point is 00:44:20 that that not pertene precisely to this world to the
Starting point is 00:44:26 human to the end to sound and it's start. My mom and my my tia, well,
Starting point is 00:44:35 they're going to to be astustarse. They're saying what's supposed that's listening? My brother and I we were
Starting point is 00:44:43 to come to the door. You're at the house, the door and in front there was the arros.
Starting point is 00:44:50 There was a canion, a way that divided the erros. So, he started
Starting point is 00:44:55 to hear more the sound. And obviously at that now now there's
Starting point is 00:44:59 nobody in the street. If I get to think, I'm maybe
Starting point is 00:45:02 it's a little that's a little is, well, no I know.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So, it's a summa my mom too, and we're
Starting point is 00:45:10 and we kept and we just was and it and she
Starting point is 00:45:15 was and it and but in one of those
Starting point is 00:45:19 we got we don't distinguish the silueta transparent
Starting point is 00:45:27 that was floating at a distance visible in the hill. And you know that I'm going going to. No.
Starting point is 00:45:37 He'd be going to. And it was divisar. It was distinguishing. It was a lot of the impression.
Starting point is 00:45:45 To us we sent me for supposed. Sentie something different. Something that a few
Starting point is 00:45:52 times do you is a terror real. Yeah was a I was a little, I don't see, 11 years, more or or less. My mom and my tia,
Starting point is 00:46:02 they were my mother, in Paz, Descancer. They're Catholic. My family is Catholic. My brother and I we were, in that, frankly, not we can't,
Starting point is 00:46:15 it's something that you can't believe. It's something you. You're seeing more people with you in the moment.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Yeah, when definitively we said, that not is something was when two quadras
Starting point is 00:46:32 or three quadras there were a point that was to cross to other colony.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And they were disavoried and terrorized a lot of the people.
Starting point is 00:46:45 They were at least for the grittos that I heard, for the least
Starting point is 00:46:49 were about six persons. Uh, cruised both, and grittando like if
Starting point is 00:46:56 those were to, like if if they had appeared the devil really. My
Starting point is 00:47:03 brother and us came with the mouth abirta. She started to hear to hear
Starting point is 00:47:09 that kind of lament is something very complicated to explain. So, is. It's
Starting point is 00:47:16 started to go, to get, to get, to get, to hear, until that she
Starting point is 00:47:19 did to hear, the siluetta that was like something Flotant But that was
Starting point is 00:47:27 my experience One of one of various But was I think The first I took with the Yorona For the people That know the history That I think
Starting point is 00:47:35 For this point know the legend of the Yorona Before the story That's the story that I want to tell I want to tell us I'm very controversial
Starting point is 00:47:42 For some For some people The Chorona is a bendition Okay Because these people think that not you're
Starting point is 00:47:52 you're just listening to a a spirit malo. You're you're not more and less than a a goddess
Starting point is 00:48:00 to a a deity Mexican known as a nonci and I want that the people
Starting point is 00:48:09 investigate this that I'm going to say that don't keep with what I'm going to be controversial
Starting point is 00:48:14 yeah so for that's for where I know where Tonansin that is confunded
Starting point is 00:48:21 with the Yorona is much more arraigated with the Virgin of Guadalupe and to reveal more
Starting point is 00:48:31 this information that's totally that's totally free for that's where you think the people have
Starting point is 00:48:38 heard a yorona? In serros. I do I've seen in serrots, you know, you've seen
Starting point is 00:48:42 in a campo-abirt in serros. Yes. Rios also. Rios. You know
Starting point is 00:48:49 where heard a Tonzi, in nothing more and nothing less than the Cerro than the Cerro of the Tepeyac. Where Juan Diego, according the history
Starting point is 00:49:03 or the religion, well, the history, the more than the better, the story, not the religion, you say
Starting point is 00:49:11 that Juan Diego had the encounter with Tonanzi. Or, better with the Virgin,
Starting point is 00:49:15 in the Serro of the Tepeyak. So, for that the Virgin of Guadalupe, more
Starting point is 00:49:22 the ligar with Maria the mother of Jesus Maria, a woman judy
Starting point is 00:49:28 with rascals totally different because we've the Virgin of Guadalupe
Starting point is 00:49:36 more with with rascals more more like Tonansin
Starting point is 00:49:43 so these people and these investigators you say that if you
Starting point is 00:49:48 listen to the yorona is a bendition, because you're listening to the Dioza of your
Starting point is 00:49:55 Tierra, also known as the Mother Tierra, the Dioza of the fertility, Tonansi, that still year and so the children, because
Starting point is 00:50:07 it's said, or according the legend, that when it gets the Conquista Spaniola, we can't practically
Starting point is 00:50:14 completely the creencers of the people of the first of this new religion Judeo-Christian, and that Tonanzin
Starting point is 00:50:23 practically passes to be second term, gets Maria, the Virgin of Guadalupe, but that really, that's behind her, this Tonanzi, this, this godia, this
Starting point is 00:50:35 figure of the mythology Mexican, and that she, you know, for his kids, who are, who are who never,
Starting point is 00:50:45 even, I just made totally, scalofue, to say that. At the final to count, But I think, for example,
Starting point is 00:50:52 so rapid, nothing just to remember the of the Virgin, until a certain point, much people
Starting point is 00:50:59 it's like a miracle. Sure, it's a miracle. But if you put to think, the simple effect of that
Starting point is 00:51:05 you had an appearance, to that you did you know, this a certain form is something is something. And the
Starting point is 00:51:11 human is always to have to have this temor, no, for the disconocid. So, effectively,
Starting point is 00:51:16 at the moment to start it and then you know, the relation, if you that makes, that causes something, something. That's what
Starting point is 00:51:23 said, one, man, he says, brother, who can listen to the Yorone, is an, so, he said, because he, he he was the, he said, he was the he said, a little, much, much, all the culture Mexican, mechica, so, he studied much, and he said, and that type, me, he said,
Starting point is 00:51:40 who, who can't listen to the Yorone, is a grand bendition, he's listening, wow, and yeah, when me explain to all this, I do, and I go, and I, I said, no, can't be, or so, Or, I mean, it's logic. It has logic. But also, remember,
Starting point is 00:51:54 remember, not creas all, a lot of what is. Ah, of course. Exist, also.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I always I've said, if the Virgin in all the case, if there were a manifestation, possibly I,
Starting point is 00:52:08 I think, I want to think, you'd be able to think you to get you to be a peace, tranquillity.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Exactly. And, and, and, however, when there's this type of things,
Starting point is 00:52:17 like the you, like you, like the I've had been a lot of people. It's a
Starting point is 00:52:22 cold. Exactly. It's very different the sensation. Exactly. I'm what difficult,
Starting point is 00:52:27 man. Yeah, difficult. Look, changing and going to a little to the
Starting point is 00:52:31 thing of Halloween, I want to tell this story, and I want for
Starting point is 00:52:35 this, because for me is one of the most first. This occurs in the night
Starting point is 00:52:40 of Halloween and he's a person to a person of a man and
Starting point is 00:52:44 Selena. They two, as you, I and all those who we're talking this,
Starting point is 00:52:49 and we're in this, amants of this general, looking experiences extremas. And a sometimes this is
Starting point is 00:52:56 a problem. When you do more, you're you, and the Ditcho you know,
Starting point is 00:53:01 and the Ditcho to do, the person, and they were to be to do a event that's
Starting point is 00:53:07 to be in a cendia Catholic, where many people, in the religion, they were
Starting point is 00:53:14 there. this in Nayarid. What occurs, in this place, and I think it was going to be a convention paranormal
Starting point is 00:53:22 in Halloween, for the amants of all this. So imagine that you you go, you go to your spouse,
Starting point is 00:53:27 go to your family, they're going and what they were there is like an expo where they
Starting point is 00:53:32 were to see things of terror, places and white and black and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 But the interesting is that this was going to an ex-scienda, in a story, that was part of the religion Catholic, frailers, this, seminarists,
Starting point is 00:53:50 sacerdotes, they're in this place. You go, and, as the story, go to this person with her novi, with Selene, they get. And, he says, the really, even says, how were disguised. They were the Batman and Gatubela. Okay. So, so, he says, the
Starting point is 00:54:07 well, we know, we go to the mode of fan boy. So we go, we said, we get us very to this area. Still, we've seen to the city.
Starting point is 00:54:14 It's error. We've not used to be a dresser of all the
Starting point is 00:54:19 city and we have a very much. All the people pass and you get looking
Starting point is 00:54:22 and it's that you get to get to go to and it's to get to get to
Starting point is 00:54:28 this place and it's in the exterior. Yeah you know is inaccessible
Starting point is 00:54:34 the vehicle just a only and can't get and it is a construction
Starting point is 00:54:38 bonita majestic because it's in three serros there
Starting point is 00:54:41 a lake, there a veredda, and, and, well, there's seven capillas there. Something marvellous to the people in Nayi, in fact, I want this place, and see I'm going to be with you. That's all right, excellent. But I want to hear what happens in this place. Tell me. He gets to a newbie,
Starting point is 00:54:56 get to a place, and says that this man, he says to his novice, you know what, if this is to be a bit, we're going to do a to explore this, well, the zone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:07 He's that the convention is going to be able to a single point, in one
Starting point is 00:55:11 one single point, and was full of people of the staff, the accessos to the
Starting point is 00:55:16 exterior were to get to know, but that nobody passer more
Starting point is 00:55:19 to the thing, and it's all good, much people, much people dishrasasasas
Starting point is 00:55:24 blah, blah, blah, they sent to be a little and never to be
Starting point is 00:55:29 and at those few minutes were aburrying. And, and
Starting point is 00:55:32 this this chico, he said, his no, well, well, well, we're going to, oh, well, we're going to, so, he's going to go to us, and in what his noviour was in the bathroom, he said, I'm kept being, and I'm going to, and I'm going to get those accesses to other capillas, you're going to, the veredda, to the
Starting point is 00:55:49 lake, and it was all obscure, and when I intend to go, the staff, to where you go? No, is that's that's prohibited, nobody can't go to there, and he says, ah, the man, is that's aburried this, it's Halloween. Well, we're going to, emotions
Starting point is 00:56:05 fort. They say, no, it's not, it's prohibit. And if, the net, what I did, desgracially, I'm going to say, he said, it's, he suborned. He gave $200, pesos, that equivalent to those, what you
Starting point is 00:56:16 like, $10, more or less, and he says, he'll say, look, chavo, take care, because there are things rare, no, man, you don't, you know, and you say, and says, that pass
Starting point is 00:56:28 where was where was the cinta of the typical santa marillas,
Starting point is 00:56:33 not you can pass with their nose and they're and they're and they're to walk between
Starting point is 00:56:37 passages, get to a place, they're where they're there's where they came to
Starting point is 00:56:43 get to this quarter grand, yen of the lot of a crucifix
Starting point is 00:56:47 like we we have here in the part, that's here in the part, it's
Starting point is 00:56:51 and there it's, it was it's it's the temperature downed completely. I mean,
Starting point is 00:57:01 something. Something impossible because the other area is part of the same place. How is possible that here
Starting point is 00:57:09 is more free and no air acconditioned or but yeah it's a so she said that her wife,
Starting point is 00:57:15 he says, I think we have to go to go back, no, man, wait,
Starting point is 00:57:19 we're going to continue investigating and they're only only alumbed with the
Starting point is 00:57:23 flash of your cell phone and he said that they they were being
Starting point is 00:57:27 and there's there was a door and strangely the
Starting point is 00:57:31 door was they're and they're like a garden
Starting point is 00:57:34 and they and they get a church one of one of these seven
Starting point is 00:57:40 capillas and says the thing you make a
Starting point is 00:57:44 less peace tranquill that nothing nothing nothing that
Starting point is 00:57:48 I'm never you never much much attention there
Starting point is 00:57:52 there there three banquite another crucif where was
Starting point is 00:57:55 suspicious about the misa, and there the things started to feel more fortes, more tenebrose. And my noviah me says, I think that yeah, and there's to go, man, we're going to, let's see. And he says that there's another port, brother.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Cruces the door and get to an exterior, to a garden more beautiful, where you can't see see the lago, all. So, yeah they were in lejos of where was all the convention. And he said that there were
Starting point is 00:58:23 some escalers still to back to get to the
Starting point is 00:58:27 and he I'm I'm in and he's a new no no no yeah
Starting point is 00:58:33 it's it's it's it's Halloween and it says the really
Starting point is 00:58:36 me I'm convincing my my know that it's
Starting point is 00:58:42 on the escalers and get to get to the and
Starting point is 00:58:45 they're we're we we're we're we're we're there
Starting point is 00:58:49 but the lag was literally to literally to a metro
Starting point is 00:58:52 of us. We're seeing the lake. I think in the scene.
Starting point is 00:58:57 The lake in middle of the serro only allumbrated with
Starting point is 00:59:01 the light of the night of Halloween. When of the
Starting point is 00:59:06 time he says that he's a silvido someone silv
Starting point is 00:59:12 rapidly they they're they're and they're that they see that
Starting point is 00:59:17 a reja great with barrotes very gross that protect
Starting point is 00:59:22 the entrance to a covea in this moment they're
Starting point is 00:59:26 I'm can't think that I'm think there's but they're
Starting point is 00:59:30 just just so very and all the people and
Starting point is 00:59:34 the red the reja like the and the rechin
Starting point is 00:59:39 and the and it and it open the the door and
Starting point is 00:59:43 there there there there there there there there
Starting point is 00:59:47 there a statue of the diablo there there in
Starting point is 00:59:50 the Cueva. The Cicca, Selene, his novi, says, like, he started to
Starting point is 00:59:57 have a attack of panic because his respiration started to get to get to like the
Starting point is 01:00:02 fear. The fear about the and then suddenly out of a person coming.
Starting point is 01:00:08 He said, it was a woman very strange. He had the car strange. I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:14 literally like, like, retraten much to the brucas. Okay. His
Starting point is 01:00:18 a naris grand, the typical berruga, but of an appearance very fea, very tenebrosa.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And this woman, between the sombras, parada on side of the statue of the devil,
Starting point is 01:00:29 like they and they and says and the reja was open. He said, the
Starting point is 01:00:35 fear is to be to be and he's I mean also I'm much much fear,
Starting point is 01:00:40 but the reaction was to take the hand and gore to the cross,
Starting point is 01:00:43 we're we're the more rapid that to the, the last capilla, we're in-serramos,
Starting point is 01:00:51 but to get to where is the convention, we have to pass to another garden. So, then we said, but we're we're going to
Starting point is 01:00:57 be out of the capilla. So, it was like something was a rastrava, her man. Dice,
Starting point is 01:01:03 my novia was totally paralyzed by the fear, he was, and I'm also, and I also,
Starting point is 01:01:09 I didn't much fear. But I could show to you know, you know, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:14 you know, you know, He says that the only is to take the crucifix of the capilla to open the door that
Starting point is 01:01:19 is the other side and he says to his novi to abrassame at the cintura you've been
Starting point is 01:01:24 behind me and he he's ventured taking the crucifio and so get to
Starting point is 01:01:29 the other side. He said what he to do to the way to was like
Starting point is 01:01:33 something was like he was this same woman but I hear
Starting point is 01:01:37 that listen how they did he was he was he was kind of discalabrared
Starting point is 01:01:44 like if his wessos were malformated and so he's going to talk about.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Dice that the little only seeer the eyes, and it's like they're
Starting point is 01:01:56 the room and the examinarists and all this paralysated for the fear and then
Starting point is 01:02:00 paralyzed and there they were in the convention where they're there the cinted
Starting point is 01:02:06 the cordonament where no you can't pass they're they're there's they're
Starting point is 01:02:10 they're not never I said, but where he went? They're taking
Starting point is 01:02:15 tomats of the man, still with the crucifix in the man, man,
Starting point is 01:02:17 for the fear. And get to the cell where are in the place. So,
Starting point is 01:02:21 where is where all? Yeah. But no there's nobody. Only
Starting point is 01:02:25 was the projector, there's the projector, there, projecting a black and black and
Starting point is 01:02:30 but where they're all, all they're all over, all was all was all
Starting point is 01:02:33 was in silence, only the only the movie is a movie a black and
Starting point is 01:02:39 black and black and we've found where are all where they're
Starting point is 01:02:44 going to and you know how that's you know how that's there's in that cell
Starting point is 01:02:53 and he says Paco is where I look and it was the same woman that we've
Starting point is 01:02:57 down in the was her car but he was running and
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm saying like a like a black like like
Starting point is 01:03:04 like that he was running to and she went and it
Starting point is 01:03:08 said she was I see I like about five or six
Starting point is 01:03:11 meters her I could see my novia also I'm in
Starting point is 01:03:17 she's like she's about the because she didn't completely the
Starting point is 01:03:22 conscience she desmayed and I feel like there's my and I see
Starting point is 01:03:26 and I'm seeing how this woman is going to me and I
Starting point is 01:03:29 also also I'm going to get and I'm all
Starting point is 01:03:34 all all all is all They were with people of the staff, were the people disguised, it was all normal,
Starting point is 01:03:47 but they were in an area where they were giving attention medical. They were like recombing conciences, that they're desmayed, they called the attention, those regawn,
Starting point is 01:04:00 and they're saying, fiftate the rarrow, that they were that they're in the capilla. And they're like, no, we got to, we started to explain,
Starting point is 01:04:10 We came here, we've seen this. No, you're just, we're we found, we're trying in the capilla. A little, a pass before, and yet to get to the Cueba. He's said that they're confused, no, they know
Starting point is 01:04:24 what had passed, no said nothing. But, so, they're with this man that soborned, the staff. And he said, Herman,
Starting point is 01:04:32 you know, I'm sure, that we're, and this of the staff he says, yeah, I know, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:38 I know that if were, But I just will say something. I said that if they'd something they'd
Starting point is 01:04:44 come down. In this place the people the people see. And rar a bit,
Starting point is 01:04:50 rar a other way, the people see, they've done, you've got much and they said
Starting point is 01:04:57 we've been a woman, it's a blah, blah, blah. And he's that's what you're
Starting point is 01:05:02 really. Really what you saw was the diablo but with a
Starting point is 01:05:07 form different. And And all this time, he was playing with his mind. Really,
Starting point is 01:05:15 I'm so I'm going to say to say, and I always look to the people, the person, the person,
Starting point is 01:05:21 if you you get to this, you know, you know, you know, to know, because a
Starting point is 01:05:26 sometimes cruises to other territory and yeah, all the carho. For supposed,
Starting point is 01:05:31 what interesting history, interesting and it's what I think, imagineate the simple
Starting point is 01:05:35 thing, just, just imagine, I'm I do the people when we
Starting point is 01:05:40 do the when we're imagine you know that we start in this place
Starting point is 01:05:45 for example in this case imagine to be in this place to come
Starting point is 01:05:50 to get to a place or discover a and
Starting point is 01:05:54 that get that that that creature you your
Starting point is 01:06:01 mind not to you see you don't you
Starting point is 01:06:05 don't if it's something that that type of things have the power.
Starting point is 01:06:10 The power of the power of particularly to manipulate your interior your mind, what you
Starting point is 01:06:15 what you see, what you see. Impresionate. So, are things very so of
Starting point is 01:06:21 all because this is that this is that I'm a sombre because I'm
Starting point is 01:06:26 to have passed to whatever. To you, to you, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:29 you get, you're aburs, but see, if you're more than you
Starting point is 01:06:37 that I would be. Yeah, I'd be excited to visit that place, I'm sure. I'm here the invitation
Starting point is 01:06:41 to go. So I, I'm still and start yeah marvellous. To be see, it's all right.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And, for sure. Very well. And, you know, I generally when someone me question,
Starting point is 01:06:52 oh, is that me would be to start to explore, me would like this, we've
Starting point is 01:06:56 known many people, so many young, who want, they feel the curiosity to do this.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I'm always you say, do it, do it, do it, do you really
Starting point is 01:07:05 is to do it, do it, do it, but you need to remember that always there can't be consequences.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And the people generally don't create, well, much of the people don't believe, until that
Starting point is 01:07:18 they're going something, until they see something, until that really they're to pass
Starting point is 01:07:23 the mal. And well, this, fiftate that this story, I've had been
Starting point is 01:07:28 encounters very strange with creatures. Aight right, I record one,
Starting point is 01:07:34 but not I'm going to tell in this occasion. I'll tell something that has to be precisely with with the
Starting point is 01:07:40 night of with the Halloween. Okay. With the night of the devil. It's a
Starting point is 01:07:44 story that I'm going to divide in three parts because I'm going to leave the last
Starting point is 01:07:50 part I'm going to do that for your section. Oh! Because that's
Starting point is 01:07:55 no, and I think that I'm let you know we've been called very like
Starting point is 01:08:02 very sporadical not? Very little. Super, super, And sporadically, and just to certain
Starting point is 01:08:07 people. Superficial. Because it's something that really really is a thing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And it's something that maybe those that want to go to hear it. After that they're going to
Starting point is 01:08:19 listen the story of the place. Right. Right. And right are going to be two
Starting point is 01:08:22 parts. One of the place, and yeah precisely that we enlase to what
Starting point is 01:08:27 has to be with a Halloween. Okay. With a 31 of October. You're
Starting point is 01:08:32 to be to talk to a place that is in the city
Starting point is 01:08:34 of Saltillo Coyla where I'm it's a place
Starting point is 01:08:38 called the fabric of the parroes this place
Starting point is 01:08:43 in the antiqued was a factory was a factory
Starting point is 01:08:47 that was a that you know you know
Starting point is 01:08:53 the place it is impactant it has it
Starting point is 01:08:55 has it is a place that in that
Starting point is 01:08:59 was away of people, of colonies, et cetera. In fin, it was a fabric very, very grand in a terrain gigantesco of various hectares. When past the time,
Starting point is 01:09:12 it's just to functionar the place, it's to functionar, and finally, well, it's not in abandon, but if it were to function.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And the people who were to look at the place, they're there from a beginning as as a
Starting point is 01:09:31 guardies, as well, at the time, and at get a place only, they're doing
Starting point is 01:09:37 keeping the place, and the site, resguarding it. For this, in the place,
Starting point is 01:09:44 as it was still the machinery and all, for the way of what they did it was
Starting point is 01:09:49 that they were there perros, perros, perros, perils, and they're to have
Starting point is 01:09:55 a haori of at minus 30 perros. in the site. For the
Starting point is 01:10:00 perros were, they're not perros agressive were bros
Starting point is 01:10:04 dedicated to custodied of the city in the company of the velators.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Pass the time, pass the years, many years, it's to build a
Starting point is 01:10:14 one a little a little practically of the place. In the colony
Starting point is 01:10:21 then the then there's the tradition of that they put on a
Starting point is 01:10:25 market over RUDAS. Precisely, there's the factory, a one side,
Starting point is 01:10:29 there's a construction of houses, a street, and in middle it was
Starting point is 01:10:33 like a type of boulevard and they put in the market. All
Starting point is 01:10:38 past of the time, the the people start to
Starting point is 01:10:42 get to a very, they're coming a car coming of the
Starting point is 01:10:46 family, and then, and then generally the perils and all of
Starting point is 01:10:52 what the people had there in the visit to the market.
Starting point is 01:10:54 they're in a perro that comes and in the o'cico he's a a foot the perro
Starting point is 01:11:03 has a okay the people enter in panico all d'clock all the world is to get
Starting point is 01:11:08 to get to the situation in all the world and he's to get to talk
Starting point is 01:11:15 and they they're they're they're they're to the policeia they're
Starting point is 01:11:22 the investigations And then the questionings and then then they say to the policeies that the perro came to the
Starting point is 01:11:31 factory, that possibly is one of the perros of the haoria of the place. Pass the time
Starting point is 01:11:37 some days and finally for calm the waters the people of the authority he commented it,
Starting point is 01:11:48 it's also in noticeros in the periodical in the television in the radio and the news and the news
Starting point is 01:11:54 that had had been that that's after after they're
Starting point is 01:12:01 in the days and for that for that all the world to
Starting point is 01:12:05 keep so mention that had had ingress a person
Starting point is 01:12:10 and that the people attacked on the person and
Starting point is 01:12:14 so so that they were the people in
Starting point is 01:12:18 their in their attack so so it was going to pass
Starting point is 01:12:23 days and strangely yeah not just a manned a
Starting point is 01:12:29 with a manned various perils with extremities with pieces
Starting point is 01:12:34 of the and so they went and they're
Starting point is 01:12:38 and they started to get to get because
Starting point is 01:12:42 because they did count or they percat that
Starting point is 01:12:44 in the place there I'd say the notes Amarigiest for suppose. And finally
Starting point is 01:12:55 they'd know that in the place, there were various restos, various
Starting point is 01:12:59 cadabres exposed, totally. The people, the people, for
Starting point is 01:13:05 to maintain the calm, for that not specular, well, speculate
Starting point is 01:13:10 things, but for that not were more situations that involved
Starting point is 01:13:13 things turvies, said, that the people, that the haoria of the
Starting point is 01:13:19 attack all that that's that's that's that's one of the side of the factory
Starting point is 01:13:26 corren the way's of the train so what was often was that the people were that
Starting point is 01:13:31 the train and they were in the place in the factory even one of the
Starting point is 01:13:36 people that was a person they were to be attacked the perors
Starting point is 01:13:43 and they were they're they're they're they're the thing
Starting point is 01:13:47 and the most macabro is what is what is the continuation. Resulting
Starting point is 01:13:52 yeah for rumors, for platics, that the place, this is something
Starting point is 01:13:59 too, this is when they are more rest of people, there, there,
Starting point is 01:14:06 there are chavere's, there are pedasos desquartis to, to the parritts,
Starting point is 01:14:12 to the anti-rubico, to completeos, letons, like if if they were
Starting point is 01:14:16 in-serrara in the boat the The assuant is that those parrits, as commonly
Starting point is 01:14:21 occur when a perrude a person, or it's a lot of it's going to do you see to be there
Starting point is 01:14:27 that they do you they're they're all the animals, yeah so do the
Starting point is 01:14:35 clean of the place, retina the retina the other, etc. Posterioriorment
Starting point is 01:14:41 people that had to get to get to get to get to people who had even
Starting point is 01:14:47 or is that has for there various can't know that in the nights they were
Starting point is 01:14:51 vehicles to do you people people and people people people people,
Starting point is 01:14:55 people people and they were people but logically the the
Starting point is 01:15:00 people not said nothing all this were rumors between the
Starting point is 01:15:04 people between the police the authorities etc when
Starting point is 01:15:09 when we we get to we they they're they
Starting point is 01:15:13 for to make to make some some grabations of the
Starting point is 01:15:15 site we start that they're that in no
Starting point is 01:15:19 manner those were those were those they're they
Starting point is 01:15:25 said. We said, even the same velador this that
Starting point is 01:15:31 in the place was used for the delinquency they they used
Starting point is 01:15:38 a part of the place like fos clandestines then
Starting point is 01:15:41 the situation was that they had people, torturbed
Starting point is 01:15:46 people, they'd people, they'd get people, and they'd be in a bit of
Starting point is 01:15:49 people, and then they'd and then to give them to get them to be a pealio
Starting point is 01:15:56 total. Sure, not just something like, a no, a posto
Starting point is 01:16:00 to be without having a lot and they they'd put down and they're
Starting point is 01:16:05 so. So, what they did the men was that they were that
Starting point is 01:16:11 had been there were there and they'd to scarvar and they'd
Starting point is 01:16:16 get those and they they were and they repartied there's there. No, manch.
Starting point is 01:16:23 So, they're really never, never ever, well, more, more than,
Starting point is 01:16:28 it's supposed, it's made to know that the of the migrant
Starting point is 01:16:30 was an attack, and that there's, he, they did, and they, but
Starting point is 01:16:36 they were they, not they, they were they, they're they, they're
Starting point is 01:16:40 people, but It could be. It's that they're many, many perros. And,
Starting point is 01:16:47 yes, effectively, possibly they were hungry. And as there was there was there's a
Starting point is 01:16:52 time, I mean, in the moment. In fin, yeah, no, they're not
Starting point is 01:16:59 to talk of this. There, there was various decessos. I'm I'm telling
Starting point is 01:17:05 so, the most brief possible. In the place, there were there were
Starting point is 01:17:07 deseseses a man, he came in a pozo. Like in any place,
Starting point is 01:17:14 no, go to people sometimes have people, they're to go,
Starting point is 01:17:18 to go, to get, you know, go to go to the family. There's a little
Starting point is 01:17:24 a new a post with water. Falle there the little. The vealor
Starting point is 01:17:28 us talked about absolutely every thing that said, we're talked to
Starting point is 01:17:34 for having us references of situations that we get to get us.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Also, a child that was a The is that you
Starting point is 01:17:44 imagine you is a fabric and the tachos are very very altos he
Starting point is 01:17:47 when he get to graffitear the those velas they're they're to say
Starting point is 01:17:52 to say to say he's to see a top of the tachos
Starting point is 01:17:57 are so much that the teches that the touch this person and fall yes
Starting point is 01:18:04 in fin uh at the fact there's a part of There's a construction, and
Starting point is 01:18:11 that's where are the fosas clandestines. Here here comes the in the last to what occurred in 31 of October. Much of
Starting point is 01:18:22 many children, between little, and adolescents, the around of the colony or of some colonies
Starting point is 01:18:29 that were to put to a reto. They said that, precisely, a night of Halloween,
Starting point is 01:18:35 the that would be to be a time in the night there. Well, yeah, received a premium, no?
Starting point is 01:18:42 This was like a retto that were imponying there between the wercos, between the kids. No, manches. Exactly. So, the place, until the feces,
Starting point is 01:18:51 still resguarded. In the place, there's been having perros. Incluso, we, when we go the perros, they're not many.
Starting point is 01:18:58 There are, like, seven perros. But you enter, the place is immense. The perils, they're not sure, they're not sure, and they're not
Starting point is 01:19:05 to get aggressive. To us, unfortunately, they know but even as when we're
Starting point is 01:19:09 when we're we're they're and they're so tensed in one an occasion
Starting point is 01:19:15 has precisely look at you're talking that this this this
Starting point is 01:19:21 what was this was in the 2019 approximately and what what I to tell
Starting point is 01:19:26 to be to tell two years approximately or three years I don't exactly
Starting point is 01:19:34 the date in In the end, three children of secondary decide to get to decide
Starting point is 01:19:41 to complete the well, to see what of the three had more time in the city, a 31 of
Starting point is 01:19:48 October in the night. There was one that was the most little, I think
Starting point is 01:19:52 had 13 years, it was a little than the other two. Entran to the
Starting point is 01:19:59 place, enter to be a problem to calm the fear, and to
Starting point is 01:20:04 Rizas, then they're to come in the city, and they're about their
Starting point is 01:20:09 stories that between the people were in, stories of terror, all of what he
Starting point is 01:20:13 about, of the people, of the fosas that not those they were
Starting point is 01:20:18 they were like they were as they were that they had had been that. The issue is
Starting point is 01:20:26 that strangely the perils they get very agressive that
Starting point is 01:20:33 night. They're doing they're the animals that there are the chamacos
Starting point is 01:20:40 the children they're to ladrars the children those are they they're to start
Starting point is 01:20:45 they're to goren two of the children to get because the
Starting point is 01:20:50 perros are running ladd lardand them infurecid too
Starting point is 01:20:55 and one of the two of the people he gets at back
Starting point is 01:20:58 the the perros those perros alcans to this and practically it's they're attacking
Starting point is 01:21:08 it, they're mordeskeen because it was an intruso for the course and the
Starting point is 01:21:14 and the they're really really very eried the other the other children not
Starting point is 01:21:19 couldn't help it but they're they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 01:21:26 unfortunately did to help the new, people of the people,
Starting point is 01:21:32 they're in the child, they're they're hospitalized, but unfortunately did you
Starting point is 01:21:37 the life the little. And this was something that was something, I don't
Starting point is 01:21:43 two, two years I don't remember the fact, but it's something and the fact of
Starting point is 01:21:48 the people that exist this retet in the place, every night of Halloween
Starting point is 01:21:53 there there people that's there people who's to appears something to
Starting point is 01:21:59 see they'll learn to listen something and that
Starting point is 01:22:02 the most that the most person receive a preem
Starting point is 01:22:04 is it's something is complicated so that you
Starting point is 01:22:10 imagine you imagine you imagine you know and
Starting point is 01:22:14 I think me I've seen many I get the
Starting point is 01:22:17 goal in our podcast to get there don't
Starting point is 01:22:19 people that we we're we we're we're people
Starting point is 01:22:25 people that for being virals. Okay. That practically is like, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm going to make a viral, I'm doing a real, I'm doing this, and I'm doing this, and then, terminate in the
Starting point is 01:22:37 life. It's very very sad. I want to end up, Armando, contendote this story.
Starting point is 01:22:42 The D. I just at final. It's very short. But for me is the most
Starting point is 01:22:47 of all. Okay. And I want to imagine something because until I'm going
Starting point is 01:22:52 to say what happened. Imagine that is Halloween. Let's imagine that is Noche of Bruchas
Starting point is 01:22:59 Halloween The Noche of the Diablo, as they like to say there. There's a man that
Starting point is 01:23:04 has two two children, a child and a little and a little of five. They want
Starting point is 01:23:13 to go to callabita to pay Halloween and you gos with you, you've got to your
Starting point is 01:23:20 little and in the street you're you're with more new disfrasated
Starting point is 01:23:24 and all this. They're to PED DULces They're They're
Starting point is 01:23:29 They're They're They're And they're They're They're So, you
Starting point is 01:23:37 As a You as a rato and after At the person and you do you
Starting point is 01:23:43 docesitos Those Those those are of these are of tubitos
Starting point is 01:23:48 that they have like bowlits of caramel Sole they're a little
Starting point is 01:23:52 Asid normally they they More or less so so.
Starting point is 01:23:58 You get these, this, this, these, uh, and apart to other
Starting point is 01:24:03 two kids that were there's, accompanied to your, to your kids, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:08 you know, you're, you're going to your house, your son, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:13 he's, he said, he says, you, do this tubito that they gave,
Starting point is 01:24:19 the called, Pixist, or no so, no, so, so,
Starting point is 01:24:22 so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:24:23 so, the The kid, with his innocence, with all innocence, in his house, after I've gone to pay sweets, so he's come this dulce. The caramel, exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:36 He'll met his his book. Seconds, the little, the boy, says that it's that he's too, demasiado, he'd rapidly water. He does an water, the little. The little, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:24:49 take water, deserperated, but it begins to be like, who want to vomit the the little the
Starting point is 01:24:55 little in the baby the man he vomita much
Starting point is 01:25:00 he to get to get to convulsion and the the
Starting point is 01:25:09 father call an ambulance and get the ambulance
Starting point is 01:25:13 for him and unfortunately the little per the
Starting point is 01:25:16 life rumbo to the hospital what What happened? What happened? Why? What? What had the dulce? How was that
Starting point is 01:25:29 someone did something so inhuman, so bestia? The result of this autopsia is that in the the body of the child, there was a dosis letal of cyanura of potassium, sufficient to to end up with the
Starting point is 01:25:50 life of two adults in the little a little of a child
Starting point is 01:25:55 of an eight years that hours before had said
Starting point is 01:26:00 to ask a with a dishrase of astronaut
Starting point is 01:26:05 this this actually no is no history this
Starting point is 01:26:11 happened in the real and they can do this
Starting point is 01:26:16 occurred so there some years exactly in the year in
Starting point is 01:26:20 1997 Ronald Clark of 30 years was the father the
Starting point is 01:26:28 child he was the name of Timothy eight years Timothy Ryan
Starting point is 01:26:33 Timothy Ryan and this really was quite very very very
Starting point is 01:26:39 very very pretty unfortunately the other the other the
Starting point is 01:26:44 other they were they were these those only the little. There's a little, there's a
Starting point is 01:26:52 story, that I think is the Ceresa of the pastel malamente. Yes. I don't if you're going to
Starting point is 01:26:59 commentar. Well, what that maybe many, you know, the causeant of all this was his
Starting point is 01:27:07 own father. Imagine that's how enferam, how can't mal, what can, no,
Starting point is 01:27:16 I see. Yeah, there's there, of that that's precisely that
Starting point is 01:27:19 about that this person, Ronald, hew to do this this
Starting point is 01:27:26 situation so disagradable and malepicic precisely assassinated to his
Starting point is 01:27:33 own to cover a exact of life that he had been
Starting point is 01:27:37 months before because they're the investigations started the
Starting point is 01:27:42 thing and here is where I don't when went to
Starting point is 01:27:46 that car to and nobody he's Salle yeah
Starting point is 01:27:51 had the dulces and he reparted in their plan was to assassinate
Starting point is 01:27:58 to one or to his two children to cover a sure that he was
Starting point is 01:28:03 actually he had acquired for to get to dodas he
Starting point is 01:28:08 he neged all rotundam and all he started
Starting point is 01:28:11 but the investigations yes the investigations the testimony
Starting point is 01:28:16 of the the other the other the other people that's the time
Starting point is 01:28:20 is that the he's he's he's he's he's he's they're in
Starting point is 01:28:25 the house they're and they investigate to the house and he he's
Starting point is 01:28:29 he doesn't he was in his house that there
Starting point is 01:28:34 no there all put to all on the
Starting point is 01:28:37 and they're in the work they're there he there
Starting point is 01:28:42 has a he puts a laboratory and still still are
Starting point is 01:28:46 the registros of that a time before he had had been
Starting point is 01:28:50 to ask a laboratory how to get syandrum of potasio to
Starting point is 01:28:54 do do it so was there all I mean imagine a
Starting point is 01:29:01 friend the the suffering of the little man
Starting point is 01:29:04 for sure and figure that strangely and not strangely
Starting point is 01:29:08 I don't I'm strangely but many situations of
Starting point is 01:29:11 this thing they occur in all parts of
Starting point is 01:29:14 the Some years, in Tijuana, precisely, here in Tijuana, impulsed the law that precisely Noche of Bruchas
Starting point is 01:29:26 Halloween was prohibited, prohibition for law, that the people that were to ask Halloween to
Starting point is 01:29:32 to bevertis, et cetera, utilizes their mask or cubriar in their rostro. They were like a
Starting point is 01:29:37 case, this active. But, but if there were to be multas to the people that
Starting point is 01:29:42 were covered of the even even if were children that's incarcelamient
Starting point is 01:29:48 etc. for the gravity of the delinquency that there and that many of the people
Starting point is 01:29:53 use these these feches so marvellous to make acts of that that type also.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I don't know the time I suppose we don't we don't talk about for example of cases
Starting point is 01:30:05 of emvenenamient we we'll talk something that I'd just me would just just me
Starting point is 01:30:11 just that there are There are places that are in adoption to gatos, a gattititos, a perros, et cetera. No, no, no, no, no, regaling gats, and perrots in these days. That's not, they're not in adoption. They're much careful.
Starting point is 01:30:22 In Saltillo, there's a, a story veridica of not so much time of a matagatos, something. No, man, man. Something, even, something, it's all right, so. So, even recommend us
Starting point is 01:30:35 when you get in these feches, that they're in those animals, especially to be gats-negros. Justly. And only to terminate this data, Ronald was detenied in November, the 5th of November
Starting point is 01:30:48 in 1,974 and was executed the 31 of March of the 84, exactly 9, 10 years after that's arrested. The colmo of all this is that,
Starting point is 01:31:01 that's, that's what he did, because he changed many times these versions of that, he said something, that said other thing,
Starting point is 01:31:11 when you were to private of the life, he took to die to say, what is to happen to be a point to do you,
Starting point is 01:31:19 is a crime that I don't commit. You imagine? Yes, and I mean? And I mean, maybe,
Starting point is 01:31:27 standing back the influx of the influjo the enoch, it would have done as he did,
Starting point is 01:31:34 because to him, certainly he did this transition of a form very pacific. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:39 we know. How? Sure. It would have done by the bruce of the courage, like, no manches, you did it, with someone innocent. I mean, I felt, me, felt,
Starting point is 01:31:49 many data, like that's the day. I mean, in these feches, it's used for many things. Yeah. But, between these things, there are sects. There are sects created,
Starting point is 01:31:59 sects moderns, that they've done malos, but also, there are things very very, where there's sacrifice. So,
Starting point is 01:32:08 has done the actual of sacrifices human, of the mass of animals, of many things that
Starting point is 01:32:14 have been with these feches. But, well, I'll say the same. And of my
Starting point is 01:32:19 part, the only that I could say to say to finalize what my is that
Starting point is 01:32:24 precisely that's the human, is the real real monster. Okay. And,
Starting point is 01:32:29 what, too, the truth, the truth to toparn with this type of situations
Starting point is 01:32:35 that they all in the topic paranormal and we get us to the land
Starting point is 01:32:40 very denses where yeah the paranormal is going to a second plan and we're talking
Starting point is 01:32:48 of the lives humanes. My dear Alex, much thanks for this
Starting point is 01:32:52 platic how you have passed? Maravios brother, very a good,
Starting point is 01:32:55 uh, I'm to be to be the ambience the atmosphere that create
Starting point is 01:33:01 to talk these stories is excellent and as As, as I said in a principle, it's an honor for me to share these stories,
Starting point is 01:33:09 to be here, visit you, I hope I, I really, that you'll be able to, and also have the invitation for Saltillo,
Starting point is 01:33:16 you and your family, for sure. Many thanks. For there, those who are on the page web,
Starting point is 01:33:21 they're going to be able to some mesecito, very certainly some investigation that we're going on Taltillo. Because there
Starting point is 01:33:28 we're doing all the investigations, all the corporations, there are we're doing for that they're doing that they're really
Starting point is 01:33:35 are very stuartisimas. And then, my dear Alex, muchesimates for all right. Thank you,
Starting point is 01:33:40 man. Before I'm, before, record us your radio socials. Yes, we can
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Starting point is 01:34:29 all sanament, convivals sanament, Disfrutten, divirate that really is the spirit of this
Starting point is 01:34:34 festivity and they're in the good and they're much to your kids and to your
Starting point is 01:34:39 mascots. For favor, do you do with the question. And here
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Starting point is 01:34:55 and you see until the next bye But the crime organized with the sacriacios,
Starting point is 01:35:07 with the marasas, with the squaritations, and all this, many of them, a lot of them have a relation, precisely, with Halloween. Embarasasas, that were secondas, standing in a ritual, to the women, they're extened the baby, So, the fiss-a-ma-ha-ha-ha-ha-a-m-m-the-fet in the ritual.
Starting point is 01:35:31 That are things totally oscura. So, they've done to know data in the news, the fact that in these epoch, the fact that in these epochs for the vented of organs. He saw, with his own eyes, how decal-in-a-da-ha-ha-in-stahed this person. sound that
Starting point is 01:35:57 I mean they were with the gargant the cooel and the head
Starting point is 01:36:01 complete. And he said that he a one of those perils
Starting point is 01:36:05 with the car with the head. Paceando eating of there saco
Starting point is 01:36:12 the cranium still still had restos of some of some
Starting point is 01:36:15 pieces of car had had had been in
Starting point is 01:36:19 in a little Thank you.

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