EXTRA ANORMAL - Mi Abuelo Era UN NAHUAL| Historias siniestras de Campesinos
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In the rinkoes
more aparted
of the camp,
where the night
is a more
oscura, and the
silence is
rompe
only with the
can't of
the grilles.
The campesiness
have been
testigues
of the inexplicable.
And how
his abuela
he
compared to
that her
abel
was a
famous
castaora
in the
people of
where she
came.
Wow.
They're
living
close of the
the
earth and
under the
sea
abirited,
know
stories that
can
transmit
of
generation
and generation
lights that appear in the
sembradios,
sombras
that are
in the commas
and even
laments that
come from
the serros.
Don Seferino
was a
Brucho,
he had the
sombrosa
ability to
levita.
Today,
we'll
we'll
have
given
encounters
with the
experiences
that not
and that
that
the campo, the mystical, and the terranal
always have been interlaced.
Well,
Thank you.
What time, family,
be welcome to a
chapter
more of podcast
Extraanormal.
My name is
Paco Arias
and I'm
happy to
start
in an episode
with all
you guys.
Family,
let's
bring us
one of
the things
favorite
of the
community,
the stories
of the
campesinos.
Much has
been a
long of
this podcast
of the
many times
many times
of people
that are
in the
earth,
that travel
in the
country,
that
have encountered with
things that
don't
have
an
explanation.
Incluso
people
that have
adapted to
a style
of a
type of
creencies
for what
they've
been
testigues,
things that
not
have an
explanation
mysterious
and that
for
people that
we're not
we're
not used
to live
this
type of
situations
something
incredible.
And to
start
with this
podcast
me complacent to present to a person
that we visit for first
and that, we really
us do a much
to have a person
that also a person
that also
to be a phenomenon
that's the phenomenon
paranormal.
Christopher, how is
your man?
Amigo,
what I'm really
very happy,
very emotional,
very nervous
to be here
for first
but I think
will be all
going to do
all right.
You know
I think so,
the fact,
I'm going to say,
you are also
one of the
voices
that most
also
also
that's
in Mexico
and that
really
me do
do you
have a
invitation.
I know
that many
people
probably
have done
with what
you're doing
what you're
for the
first time.
Who are?
Who are you?
All right.
Sure,
that is.
So,
me know,
like Christopher Dorden,
in the
area.
I'm a
community,
I'm a,
vocation,
so,
And from
very
chiquito
me
started
this of
the media
during
many years
after the
cameras,
behind the
microphones,
producing,
realizing,
creativity,
strategy,
and just recently
me abented
to this
of the
paranormal,
because of
the whole
life
I've
liked,
the
hand
and
programs
of television
that I
in my
infancy
like
about
like
from
the
crypta
or the
Twilight
Sun,
know,
so
I'm
so
also
also
try,
not,
to live
of this.
Sure.
In one of
those.
And look,
and look.
And look.
Look,
look.
Look,
so here.
Oh, man.
No,
much thanks,
that's the
project and
the phenomenon,
I always
I've said,
also
is an
excuse to
know a
person who
am this
phenomenon.
It's curious
because a
much,
it's a
thing,
says the
dish, no?
They're
all the
time, but
of the fear, of the mystery,
what you can feel with adrenaline,
you know, when you confronts
to this type of phenomena,
and, over all what we're going to
talk about this night.
But, before this,
I'd like to give
the indications that are
necessary.
I'm going to say that if
is the first time
that you get to this
channel, that for
any other thing,
I've seen,
some title,
and you're here
with us,
and you're here to
give us this indication
that us
help us us us also as
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that is,
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us help us
much if you
hear these
episodes,
since censura,
also I
also you
invite to
on Spotify,
so on
Spotify,
where we're
in the
podcast
most
heard of you,
and record
to two
things that
one,
very probably
probably
you all
that you
that's
a member
official
of the
content
exclusive
where also Christopher
reserved a
history
prohibited for
our application,
our platform
secure and
say that if you
are from Mexico
you can't
get the merch
official
inside of our
website web
that also
there is
www.
p.
Podcastisendomal
com.m.
There you
find you
find you all.
We're
working for
doing to
makeos
to other
countries.
Of moment
only is
for Mexico
but
we're
we're
working
in all
what necessary
for that
all of
your merch
official.
And to be
my
question
for you.
Dime.
Look,
normally
me
say,
or me
and also
me,
they're
they're
where
come
the
stories
more
because
we're
that
person
that person
that
that's
that
this,
it's
a little
about
but
my
response
is the
same.
The
The real
stories
come
of
places
that
sometimes
that's
not even
we
imagine
the
man
that
he's
labrando
the
the
the
lady
the
person
and
people
people
people
common
that
people
that
are
experiences
extraordinary
and
and
about
the
phenomenon
of
stories
of
the
people
all
the
phenomenon
occurred
in
ranchos
people, in
places
yeah
very
a lot of
the great
cities
metropolitan
where the
silence is
totally
invasive
you know
only you
just you
just
propitia
that the
phenomenon
could manifest
to make sure
you what
you think
is this
I'm
completely
of
I'm completely
real
radica in
that could
to be in the
cotidianity
and
so
the
not
to be
to be
a person
out of
your
comprehension,
out of
the
ordinary
so that
that's
what always
we have
with a
guardia
and when
it's
the impact
is for
two.
And
just
just
these
stories
have
popularized
many
because
the
people that
for
a situation
get to
live them
for example
I always
I'm always
about the
maestros
doctors,
doctors,
medical,
doctors,
doctors,
doctors,
and when
they're
in those
first years
laboral,
those
mann to
places
are
and they
talk about
situations
that they
do you
ask
question
their
reality
and
their
and a
sometimes
you know
in this
but
result
that in
this
people
the
people
tap the
speys.
The people
put tigeras
in form
of a cross
below of
his comas
and over
all of the
cunas
the people
mark your
entrances with
cruces of
cal
the people
lette
count how
our
our ideology
change
and when
you topas
with this
other
car of the
money
we know
we're
we're just
we're
we're
we're
we're
It's fractioned our
our thinking,
and it's when
we say,
for the first
time, I think
I'm thinking
in something that
has been
and now if
you take to
live it,
completely
of course.
And is that
there are
many things that
we're doing
for a centado.
We're
maybe that
even the
science,
or I can
explain
all what we
know, but
in reality
to look
to be
only only
only a minute
100 years
to
is
to give us
how we've
advanced and
what's
things were
impensable
incomprehensible
terms that
no existian
and that
we could
we can't
we can't
for things
subjective and
in the
way,
frequency
hondas
no
so in the
future
no I can't
say
10 years
maybe
thousand years
in the
future
this
that we
we're
we're
going to
be part
of the
science
too
because
the part
of the
comprobation
will
to be
to
that
those states that
we don't
we don't
understand.
So,
it's
that the reality
we're going
to be in
pastes
aggantated
the science
to the
medicine,
the great
studies,
now the
physical
quantica
that practically
we're
the
door to
a universe
totally
distinct
that you
imagine
the world
of
possibilities
that
can
occur
are
things
marvell
so
I want
I'm going to start
contend
a story
my
dear
Chris,
that is
a story
that I
was just
listening
just a
little
and this
occurred
in a
public
called
San
Geronimo.
Okay.
This
story
does
share
a person
that is
fan
of the
podcast
is completely
an
anonymous
and this
person
and this person
us
said
something
that
did
not
only
only
he
but
his
Abuelo. He knows
He says that in this
people called San Geronimo
his abuelo
was a figure
of much notoriety,
a figure
of respect and
also of mystery.
Because the
abuel,
to which
he was to
call Don Ceperino
was a
but what
characteristics
had this broo?
This person
had the
sombrosa
ability
of levita.
If he
wanted,
the people
could be
to be at
this grade
he had
also the
ability
that many
know how
the bilocation
okay
persons that
are in
a cabo
that they're
in that
people
and are
and getting
to that
other
people
they
they're
going to
be in
two
places
at
the
time
the
the
impressionant
is that
when
this
occurred
the
veradero
was in
his
room
or in the
catre
or in the
catre,
so it was a
whole the
people,
for the
people,
for the
people,
not a
figure
of respect.
No,
you could
get
with Don
Seferino
because
it was
sure
that he
chaba
a maldition
and
he'd
really
he was
that.
He was
And, actually, to him not
to go to visit him
because the start
of this man
was very strange
even for him
being a new.
The energy
that emanated
this sir
was very pesada.
And,
and so,
because he said
that this
man in the
back,
he had like
a lunar
that had
a symbol
strange.
Okay.
Every
that this
man,
he was to
go to the
to be in the room,
to be in the
camis.
Always
he'd
be to
this
lunar,
that was
more
than a
moon
a symbol
in
his
back.
They said
they
were
they were
people
people
very,
well
very
great
in the
ambit
political
even
in the
aspect
was a
man.
He was
a great
qualities,
scoopia
fire
for the
book.
I mean
they're
describing
to a
avatar
in
this
in this
story.
What happened?
Much
many times
the house
of this
man was
a person
people who
had had
a necessity
and they were
to pay
an appo
because this
this
this
sir,
between
the things
that
he gave
a
money
and so
as he
had a
person
the
curable
the
and he
was
you can't
you
imagine
the
quantity of
people
that
had in
these
houses
and
also
they were
people
to pay
things
bad
you know
that
this person
to
this
other person
and a
other
person and
this
person
and this
person
that
this person
and I'm
and it
even
even if
he said
even
there's
even
giveatel
my
abuel
it was
and
when
the
family
and
they were
to enterer
of what the
abuel
did,
like they
started to
open,
you know,
like they
started
because
they had
in a
mind,
and that
this
man,
it was
he was
to be
to be a
family,
in that
family,
there were
three,
four
children,
he was,
he did,
and he
did,
and he,
he,
he,
he,
the person,
the nieto
us
says,
my
abuel
had a
form
to think
very
extrana. He
said
that
if he
acceded to
this
favor or
this
job of
eliminate to
people
or personitas
was because
in some
he not
he was
he was
so it was
part of
a plan
universal.
Okay.
It's
a little
strange
the form
of how
this
man regia
his
his
credences but
he said
if no
I do
do I
do something
I'm
going to
who
to interrupt this process.
Okay.
So if it's in my hands to do,
I do.
Yeah, the person that
will pay his karma.
So, it's like,
he's a way different.
One of the things
that makes that this
story is a very aterrador
is what occurs
a night with a campesino.
He said that he
was in his abuel
with a Sanferino,
that of a front
always, when
you had
to
work,
always
he went and
he metia
seven
times
he's submerged
to the
rio.
Suppongam,
we know
his
day the
people
and the
people,
he'd
all the
roba,
he meted
to the
river and
seven
times
he'd
he'd
he said
was the
that he
externable
his
that when
he had
that was
that the
rio
had a
clean
his
like,
the river
flue,
the water
flue,
the water
all this negativity.
So the
sir,
he bestia,
he put in
his camis,
and yeah,
he was
to be able to
get to
and then
every time
that he
did a
this,
this lunar,
this
kind of
this, like
a thing
in his
back.
He had
a regla
after
to make
this
micro-ritual
of submers
seven
times, he
yeah no
could
do it.
Until the
day
the day
the
day after the
day
he said, he
he could be able to do it,
he could be in
a little bit more.
never said, he said,
he went to the rio,
he set up to
to, to, to descansar.
Like, at the 2 hours,
just being at the 11th of the night,
he started a person
to the door, but very
very strong.
Of these times
that the people
are desperated and
want to almost,
casi,
to try the
door.
Dice, the
nephew, that is
the story,
that will,
open the
door, and
was a
campesino
that had a
child of
six, seven
years,
enwulted in
many covichas
abased.
and that the
nina
was acting
in form
extra.
It was like
very
aggressive,
like that
wanted to
and the
Lord
was crying
and supplicing
the intervention
of Don Ceperino.
Sal,
Don Ceperino
and he
put in the
boat,
is what
my
my daughter
is,
the little
she was,
the little
a position
demoniac
and the
little bit
had attacked
to his
mother,
to his
hermas, that
had five
and the
father,
how could,
it was involved
in many
sabanas,
like he
made a
carmise
of force,
and so
was how
he was
to be
to be a
cabo
and he
to be
to do
to do you.
The
detail
that made
this story
very
is that
this
little
was that
was
an
entity
that had
possession
of the
person,
I was
yeah
he was
and
there was
in
multiple
voices
and
all what
normally
we're
okay.
The
detail is
that this
this
man,
this father
was worried
because the
entity
had said
that's a
little
not going to
go to
that night
so.
So,
then they
needed
rapidly
to do
something.
He said
they're
going to
the
little
she's
still
being
being
being
like
being
in
these
savanas
when
Seferino
is
he
kept
looking
with
a
look
a
that the
nina
she
started
to
burlard
to him
he
scupio
but he
did a
phrase
that the
person,
the nieto
and
he resone
to him
because
he said,
that
he's
to forget
of where
came to
your power.
He said
that Don
Seferino
like if
so he
tambalio
that phrase
he was
he tambal
much,
he says
that
he responds
to the
name
and
his
regla is
you
can
do
until the
day
the next, but
here
it was urgent.
He said
that the
Lord
got to
try to
think of
and he said
he said,
he said,
he said,
he said,
he made
to bring a
back,
something,
something.
I was
to do
the work
of the
night when
he had
not could
do it,
but he
was he
was the
way in
how
to do it
and he
made
to try
a
back
with
another
person
in the
camp
in
camp
open,
he's
acuesta
the
little
they're
they're
they're
a lot of
a
lot of
and
this
sir
he's
to make
to do
some
and he
and he
and he
even
to
dance
all this
all this
he
was a
little
he
and he
said
this
this
man
does
something
that
everyone
that
was
that was
the
father
the
mother
and
some
people
curious
that
came
to
see
how
something
out
of the
nina.
The
little
the
little bit
but that
strangely
the
back
also
began
to
like
to
get to
and
that's
about
and
this
that's
something is
something
is something
because
before
this
people
of the
nieto
and
of some
curiousos
saw
and
they're
an
animal
how this
vaca
about
he said
words. And
after
that he
spoke,
Caryl
Mured.
Muriel.
Don Ceperino
gave
to what
he had to
appreciate.
The
little,
he started
to cry,
he was very
very weak.
For there
he gave
some
brebages that
the same
he was
to help
his energy.
But what
what we
did the
nietto
this
sir,
is that
And from that day, Donceferino
started to infirm.
He was going to
get to get, and he
he was going to
get. And
in a lapse of three
months, this
sir, moved.
Falleceo.
He found out of
a morgue.
Some people
said that
he had
terminated his
day to start
with the
people.
He was a
way to
do what he
always
always had
purification.
But
but that in that instant
something
he was
attacked
and he
got out of
a bit
extran't
strangely
happened
a little
very strange
of what
this nietto
us
described
and is
that he
he said
I used to
to bestire
to my
abel
that night
for
that we
let us
that
that's
that lunar
or that
mark
of
that was
practically
something
something
part of
his
person
not a
tattooage
no,
something extra,
it was a
little,
disappeared
for complete.
His
spalda
was a
limpia.
That night
belled to
Don Ceperino,
and the
day next
he was
in the
panteon
municipal
of this
town,
of this
municipality.
But
strangely
mano,
and
something that
this
nieto
conserved
the day
of day
of
today,
are
the
botas of his
abuel.
Why?
Why,
the
botas?
Because
he said
that the
family
that's
the
house
of Don
Seferino
always
were
all.
When
this
man,
when this
family,
to be
to get to
the house
of the
night,
always
they were
going to
these
botas
to be
up and
down,
for
up and
to be
up
up.
Until
that he,
the
nieto
creased,
he's
kept
with a
but something
that's
that he
can't
the
are the
boat
of his
abel.
He
thinks
that in
some
moment
he
will
go
to
but
in this
life
no
I'm
about
the
life
he
he
think
he
he
he
he
because
into
the
he
he
he
he
gave
to
say
to
to
I get to die,
I'm going to
see.
So,
guard a
of me,
something more
and he
live with
the experience
to get to
see how
his abel
Don Ceperino.
That story
me voled
completely
in the
head,
wow.
It's an
impressionant.
Fiatte
that is
that I
described
I'm
described
such sub-humannas
that I
do,
of really
could exist
people
like,
I mean,
I'm,
I, in this
thing
critical,
I've
heard of
I've seen
and seen
of people
that
have seen
great
abilities.
But
to where
can
get
these
capacities?
I mean
me
to tell
my
papa,
just
about
of these
people
that
these
don't
that
extraordinary
that my
abuel
had a
man,
and that
he was
that he
had the
don't
very
very
very
I don't think that at that level.
I mean, Don Seferino,
is he was a rotissim, no?
Yeah, of course.
But he said that his abuelo
he went to be,
that in some occasion
they went to the river
and there was a woman
very wapa
there in the river
in the river,
jenando his can'taro.
So,
they went
and the tio
he said to my
my abuel,
being he a
young,
adolescent, for
and he said,
hey,
this
you want
you know
that that
woman
can't
the
and the
abuel
I think
that's
he said
and he said
to be
to be
a very,
a bit,
see,
is sure.
And then
this
this guy
garrs,
arras,
a
runca
of the
lot,
it's
to frot
in
his
hands,
the,
the,
it's
he
starts
a
person
and he
he's
the
hand,
and so
and
the
siervas,
they're
a few
or some
centimeters of
and in
that moment
the woman
terminate
to
get a
to make
to do
a little
to do
and then
they're in
seco
he does
a
middle
a
back
the
back the
can't
get a
and
get to
to be
to be
to
like
if
were
a
trance
he
he
was
there
but
for my
abo
the
impression
was
like
how
could
do
How can you manipulate the conscience of other person
To do that's just
And so, many other experiences
In some way, I think to me
That sensibility me has assaulted
But there are various
men in my family
That have like a level of sensibility
My papa, for example
has the capacity to
Soignar, like, to interpretar
Swoons
And you know when someone
you're going to fallece.
When
someone
he's
he's
he has told
when you
he's
passing
bad,
I was
you know
you know
you know
you said
but I
didn't
you know
you had
in bad
and you
know I was
I was
I know
so little to
we're giving
a little
we're giving
help
for here
and that
and that's
me has
been like
much
curiosity
I'm
I am
the
more
sensitive
So, if, right
me says,
here a baby,
it was a
little, I don't
feel like that.
Comparting that
and I've
said to do
to my audience.
I'm probably
probably for this
we're just
we're doing this
this,
I'm sure.
Because if
I were a
person super
sensible,
no see,
no see,
what would be,
or if you
would be
what would be
so,
so,
I think,
I always
I'm just,
I'm saying,
I feel
to get to
these
energies when
is something
too evident.
When it's
a lot of
that's just
something
I'm like
that I'm like
that I'm
that's something
normal and I
have been with
people who's
I'm not
so,
I don't know?
For that
probably I
risked
because
I'm aviente
and I'm going
and I'm going
and no
it's not
for me
but
if at the
maybe for
so we're
to do you
help much
to be
the corresponsal
of the
paranormal
because you
don't you
don't see
you know
so you
you can't
to venter a little more
for there.
So,
I'm
making
that we're
talking of
these things,
let me
to talk
you know,
a relato
that just
has to
something that
I don't
know I
know that
are the
animals that
are the
these
specifically
the bivores
that resplandes
okay
I don't
have
heard of
this when
me
commented
I started
and I
began
that many
people
of
camp,
they're
enterned
of this
information.
And I,
all I'm
sure, the
real thing,
I'm not
I've
never said
never before.
But I
met I
investigated and
I'm looking
stories,
after
stories,
after stories,
until I
did with
one that
I'm
that I
made a
impressionant
because
it was a
first
man,
that the
young.
Okay.
Well,
this
young,
had a
his
abuel,
to the
he was
to visit
him
was a
man
of
camp.
Effectively,
he
dedicated to
labrard
the
land,
to the
causeeach.
So,
he
was to be
in the
camp,
in the
vacations,
in those
that I
went to
the
time, and
this
vacations,
between these
spaces,
was
learning things
of his
abuel,
and the
relation
was
straighting
every
more.
The
abel
the final
he sent to
play
baraja,
to
play domino,
you know,
he went
to be
hermending
all
his
knowledge
of
life and one
of the
lessons more
important that
when he
was going to
help
he said
no,
my abo
my abo
my
but evidently
I don't
do not
I'm at my
age,
the age
that he
has all
what he
does,
and me
he has
he has
and he
he's not,
and he's
saying things that
I'd
other way
to be able to
care to
do the
animals.
He said
you have
you have to
,
you know,
there's
bivores.
There are
culebrates and
you have to
know what
pica and
what try
veneno.
So, but
there are
some of those
that you
have to
keep to
always,
always,
being atent
and are
the bivoras
that
are the
bivoras
that resplandes
even of
the night.
They're
in a
bright
you're not
you're
going to
compare
with
any other.
Cas
you can
think
they're
to
think they're
So he said, the nieto, no?
Well,
I have to be atent because
surely his skin is very costos.
Okay.
And the abolo, he said,
no, no.
You're just confunding, my God.
You have to be able to
these culebras,
because generally
they're doing a
person.
Okay.
To get a person
that in some
moment,
he went to enterer
there,
his money,
his pertenances,
his
needs,
over
all in
times of
the revolution.
Sure,
so much
people
not confiable
in the
bankos
and they're
they're
my
money.
So,
these
animals,
for
some reason,
they're
they're
keeping,
they're
protecting.
The
abuel
he said,
in this
moment,
look,
I'm
to be
to say
something
I'm
to do
his sarap
and he
does
a
one of
the
point's
and he
he
he's
that in
the
gavan
had a boarded
a cross
with a
red, and
he's
the sombrero
and for
then I'm
a cross
with a cross
with
and he said
any of this
two
to me
serve for the
day that
I'm
I'm
because
what will
tell me
tell me
tell me
like
a little
uncredulo
he said
the day
that you
see that
one of
one of
this
bivora
you
you are
you going
to
get the
gavano
you
that's
that's
this
boardado
and
you
you
you're going to
you're going to
go to
pass is
that in
that moment
you're going
to start
to start
how chock
metals
like if
were a
bolsita
of the
you're going
to get a
and the
first
you're going
to be
going to
be a
little
a fortune
and you
you have
to
scabar
there
for
that you
can't
you
you can
you
that's
that's
that you
that's
that
that's
a
a figure totem.
It's a figure
that
you
detenia
destined to
that you
do it and
you're
doing it
and he's
doing it
for you
need to be
to get this
with you.
Well,
like the
nieto
a little
said,
so the
thing,
the
thing,
so they're
doing
passing
the days
in
those
vacations
and in
some
moment
maybe
the
abuel
like
seeing
that his
niet
suspect
or that
he was
let
come
let's
come
to get to
get to
know
my
compad
this
you
know
this you
know
this
they're
going
to get
to a
assy
enormous
impressive
I'm
I'm
had
employees
had
cabis
had
had
ganado
so
it was
you
say
how
how
it's
how can
how could
have
there
so
it's
my
comrade
we
know
we know
we
he
was the
he
to my first
son,
the most
great.
But I want
that
I'm going to
hear of the
story that
he's going to
tell.
So when
they're
when they're
and they
say,
they say,
they say,
ha, ha,
how has
been to be
a little
to do you,
and he
said,
hey,
ask us
how he's
this
fortune?
How is
that has
this casota?
And he
said,
and I'm
a tantito.
Orita
I'm going
to say
to your
nieto.
Entra,
it's a little
cajita
very bonita
of metal
and when it
there is a
centenario
of gold
so a
monedota
he says
no
this what is
this is
this
has your
history
and is that
when I
was a
young
maybe
entering
to the
adolescence
I
I was
going to
go to
the
rio
and
one of
those
nights
yeah
had
had
had
that brillied of a color
like if it was the
arcoiris at a middle of the
night. And I said, how is
possible that...
Wow.
Never had ever seen
an animal
so much.
The first that I did,
and maybe
was, was
quit me the gavan
and to ventars it
on the same.
The gavan
had the particularity
that her mom
was very Catholic
and he had
had boarded
a little cross-eceita.
So when
he's a gavan
says,
I'm going to
make the
centuron
more
beautiful of
the
whole of
that's
I'm going to
I'm going to
see the
end of the
total
that I'm
to hear you
to hear of
money,
start with
that's
kind of
and when
he gets
the gavent
the gavan
see
a little
money
well not
so much
a centenari
asomand
under the
earth
and in the
moment in
the moment in
the moment
in the bivora
is all
the bivora
is all
into the malice
but
I don't
have been
that color
the color
that
had been
before
it's not
it's not
the same
was the
bivora
okay
he's
he's
to start
in the
earth
and in
some
moment
he
he'll
count
seven
centenaries
of
oh
he says
terminate
the
story
he says
this is the
only
centenario
that I
consider
until
the day
of
only for
the
record
because
today
in reality
the
value
economic
yeah
at these
altures
is nothing
it's
the memory
that I
know
to know
that I'm
that I
see that
did that
I
found I
found I
those
centenarios
and
that with
those
centenaries
those
I went
and
I'm
building
I'm
I'm
I'm
carctors
and
we
went
to
we're
to
but I
never
I'm
then
then
after that
after
every
hour
to
visit
He died.
And now
every
that I
went to
visit to
the
tios,
to the
people,
uh,
always that
I was too
to help us
a little
to the
hordeaux,
to help us
because I
say, I'm
going more
estorbar than
help.
He's very
atento
of if
is going to
find or
not,
some of
these bivora
that bringian.
Wow.
Fjate,
that's
me record
much to
a,
a thing
that we
have talked
anteriorly
that are
these
fegos
that of
the nada
like
they're
in colors
reds
asules
fos
too
that's
that's
that is
because
are
interrados
some
and that's
impressive
because
there's
a risk
really
real
physical
and a
risk
also
spiritual
because
many
people
know
that if
you
desentierras
this
treasure,
a
maldiction
could
carry
over
you.
Apart
of the
quantity
of the
gases
concentrated
that you
can't
you
can't
you
can't
then
so
so it
is impressive
because
that
type of
stories
that
came
of the
era
of the
revolution
the
years of
the
revolution
how
I
have
told
many
stories
that
the
people
that
people
and
the
people
had
this
terror
that
they
robarer, or the bank, and
many people, millions of
people, took the decision
to enterer their money.
And for that there's a phrase that
every time that we say in the podcast,
the people see impression.
There are millions of
treasures that even no have been
discovered in Mexico.
So, you can't have your
house and in your patio,
can be a treasure with various
centenaries there,
gold, or could have
money, or so, there can't
be many things, and the people
is that what they did
for guard this
was enterrars.
It's surprising,
brother.
Yes,
just also,
I think
family that,
as you,
in the terrain,
in the
where they were
an amplification
where they were
an patio
and they were
a porto
and at the few
meters that were
an oil that
had a piece of
a little.
Wow.
But they
not wanted
to give a part to the authorities,
to Limba.
Terminianed all those monolitos in
their repisas.
And the world, the
is that never me
told them, but I think
it was founded,
they're sold,
or they did not.
Because
then they were
a caron or not.
It's a lot of
those familiares,
but a salute.
That chido,
no.
Oh,
I want to
want a
story.
Yes.
Has you
heard you the
phrase,
the last
the Luz
Mala?
Never.
I had
heard of
a phenomenon
but not
of this
form that
peculiar to
call it.
Okay.
Look,
this story
we'll
us do
this story.
Thank you,
thank you.
Thank you
for
to share your
story.
And this
occurs in
a,
precisely in
a people
of here
of Mexico
with a
family of
campesinos.
He knows
is a
context.
He knows
he said that
when
he was a
child
always
took the
fascination
for the
camp
for the
naturalness,
the animals,
precisely
because he
he's
grew also
with his
abuel,
with his
abelos.
So he
he wanted
to give us
to do this.
So he
decided
to study an
engineering
agronoma
to learn
all the
related to
the camp
the earth,
the animals
and then
specialize
in this
in this
area.
He knows
he says
that
he was
adolescente
always
was a
person
eseptic
tirandle
to the
atheism,
to not
believe in
nothing.
But
that even
he always
he always
he
gave a
medal that
he gave
in clear.
The
cargo
not for
devotion
but because
that
medial
my
abel
always
he always
always
he used.
So
in the
moment
of
his
fallaciment
in
his
last
moments
of
his
agonia,
you can
get in the
collar and
me.
So,
he's a
symbol of him.
No,
of something
of God.
It's of
him, this
symbol.
And it
and I'm
so I'm
feel well
and I
feel to
him.
So he
he's developed
this type of
this type of
creencia.
He said
that when
yeah
he was
studying this
engineering,
well,
it was a
matter that
said here
in Mexico
he goes
pansasos
because
no
not it
is a
reprobating
so he
he's
he and a
group of
students
of the
companyero
yeah
in the
last in the
last
he went
and a
master
he said
okay
there
there is a
form
to
the
material
and that
don't
have
to
repeat
I need
I need
a
practice
they're
to go
a
place
to
a place
where
put
a
all
what you
have learned
you know
the
thing of
fertilisants
the
thing of the
animals
there's
a lot of
things
so they
so they're
so they're
to do
and they
went to
visit a
rancho
that
was
basically
part of
the
family
of those
young
they're
to
a rancho
that is
between
Puebla
and the
state
of Mexico
a
a little
a
quite
so much
but
they're
getting
to do
of those practices
get them
from very
time because
they're
the intention
to go to
get a
normal, the
people of
people very
amable,
the duke
the dweaner of
the finkka,
the cornelers,
the campesinos
working,
they got
their things,
his notations,
they were
they're doing
their
things,
they're
they're working.
He's
said that
when they were
at point
to terminate,
yeah
was going
to the
light of
the day
and it
to go to go to the night.
And this sir, the dwean,
let's invite to pass the night.
Because they say,
look, it's, yeah is noche.
It's, it's dangerous.
So, then, so,
he, he said, and he said,
just the person who's
made the story, this,
Julio, he said,
the fact, I don't,
I don't, I'm going to
not I'm used to
do where, well,
where, where not is my
case.
But,
But, well, we're going to
let us. What can't happen? What could pass?
He said that night
took a coffee of oya,
while they heard the rio of the
group, no, the grilloes.
Yeah.
So, they were some
there of the family
and started to take a coffee
with pan, to eat
and to eat at the moment
where they're going to
start stories.
And they're going to
to tell the campesinos,
the people of the campos
those stories.
Yeah.
He said Julio,
the truth
to me
did me
is a
tonteria
I don't
think in
that of
that's,
or well,
I don't
think in
nothing of
that's,
and they're
telling
that the
witch,
that the
dweens,
that the
Nahual,
that blah,
blah,
blah,
and he
says that
the
he said,
and he
says,
you know,
you know,
you don't
think,
there's a
not of this,
right?
Well,
no,
I don't
no,
I don't
think
of this.
And you
would
like to
think,
and
no, because no
I don't
believe in
something
I'm going to
believe in
I'm going to
say,
I'm going
to get to
a place
but so
what's at
what are you
are like
at the
night?
You want to
you?
You can't
you know?
You're
you've
heard of the
light
mala?
No?
No?
No?
I don't know.
I've seen
two
times.
So he
said.
He's
he's
two
times and
you have to
take
much
when you
get to
you know.
You know,
we've
seen two
two times.
One
with my
father and
one I
only,
but I
know where
it's
where you
see.
And if
you're
this
night I
take you
know.
He's
that's
he's
not you know
and you
say, no,
to say,
And, well, it sounded more
like an adventure,
than a bit more
a bit of mystery or paranormal.
He said,
ah, well,
to what we're,
to go to be?
He says,
look, this
light appears
between two
and four of the
morning,
above of the
Cerro.
I'm in
two hours
for that
are you
went to their
dormitories.
The,
the father,
the duke,
he said to
all those,
you know,
don't get,
for favor,
it's a
And it's dangerous, there are animals, there's a lot of
things outside. But,
but down, more or less,
between the one of the
morning, a one, a 16,
he went to, the
son of the duke. All right.
All right.
Let's go, let's see,
that they're prended
their way.
It was going to
come to like
a 40 minutes
to be up of
the serro.
Uh-huh.
And they'd
go to,
there's five
people, the
of the
due,
Julio, and
his three
companions.
they were
there
relajo
with the
lanterns
one
was doing
like the
yearn't
and he's
that
the
perritts
the rancho
they were
with them
two
were
going to
they were
moving
the
serro
and
yeah
he was
about
30
35
minutes
of
when
the
neblin
began
to
make
more
spesa
and
started
to
get a
little
more
of
free
and
it
started
to
to put the
environment
a little
a little
a little
but it's more
that's the neblin
that's the nebina,
that's not,
etc., etc.
He'se.
He says that
the child
the owner
is the
front of an
arbor
great,
he gets
looking
to the
water and
he says,
it's
here,
here is.
Dice
that in
that all
that all
all the
allensio
so
like
looking
And that, of
one of them
one of them
is a carcashada
and intentating
so,
so,
ah,
tontos,
we're spantas,
no?
In that,
it's
there's
a little
a lo-lejos.
The two
perils
that had
accompanied to
those
young,
started,
like,
to inquietar
awed,
and they
went.
So,
they were,
they were,
they were,
they were
to get
regress. In
that,
like
all,
they were
a rist,
more nervous,
more incommoda,
yeah no
was a
little bit more
and in
that the
little bit more.
And then
he's going to
see that.
There's,
look.
And,
and the
five,
they were
one way
a sphere.
A sphere
that was a
fire
that was a
fire
that was
going
of the
serro
of other
serro
and he was
going to
and he was
going to
and he was
going to
and he
and all
they were
looking
so and
they didn't
what do you
and he said
he'll say
don't
move on
kettens
here
here is
sure
so
just bean
and we
know and
we're
going
and we're
all
all
they're
all
but
Julio
the person
that
this
story
no
he
he's
he's
kept
with the
GENAS.
He started
and
only said,
I only
just said,
hey,
regressata
to where
you go?
Come.
Julio,
it's
dangerous,
come.
And all
they said,
I,
I, the
real,
I don't
me want to
get to
get to
that.
That
had to
have an
explanation
logic,
scientific,
what is?
And I
was, and I
would be
to discover
and,
I said,
I'm
started
to get
piedritas,
they're
they're
they're
ohio,
he said,
it was when then
he was above of the flama
and this
thing said
he was going,
he was
going, and
when it
he was a
10
meters,
he could
be clear
and literally
it's like
a flama
that no
he had to
harder and
that was
in directions
very
strange.
Okay.
This
He was up to the
earth
and he was
arduing
before he
said in
that moment
he started
to feel
how there
was like
something in the
environment
that was
more pesable
the neblina
started
to make
to make sure
that my
sentives
started to
go
to hear
I'm
but yeah
very
lehano
and I
heard
and I
heard about
but how
they
just
they were
and
me
They were leaving, me
They were abandoning.
But my
Pyrna,
no, no reactionable,
no,
they were,
my heart
and I was,
and I was
not even
to looker.
Only was
looking,
that lumbra
that ardued
and ardued and
not had to
arden,
de pronto,
that lumbre,
that was
ardu,
so it was
to move
like if
were a
mass,
and this
mass,
that not
had to
start,
and I'm
to make
form,
head
Hombos
Brasos
And the mass
And the mass
So I'm going
Like it's
Like materializing
something
It was a figure
Feminine
And it was
He was clear
The cabello
Largo
And the
Carcajada
that were
The same
Fuego
In this
point
I felt I
felt like
He came
And he
He said
Sentie the
Calor
that manava
It was
a cold that
yeah
was
that was
my
my,
my,
my,
my,
my,
my,
my,
my,
my,
the
gritty to the
grits of
those,
the
were going
going,
said,
I said,
I'm going
to dismayer.
He started
all the
senses,
the
vision,
the
eye,
all,
he said,
I,
said,
I'm
going to
move,
and
a lot,
a
light
a blue
out of
my
light
that
It was a strong
the
place
and that
thing
that was
a lot of
a form
of a
woman
he was
he was
he was
to be
and he
was
when
when it
was
the light
and it
disvancy
hours
after
after
Julio
us
that
he recuper
the
notion
of
all
and
he was
in the
town
in the
ranch
was
with the
the
son
his
his
They were all preoccupied.
What, what happened?
He said that this
Mr. Aparted that
he gave a reaganisa
to all, because he said,
no,
salgan of his dormitory,
what were to do?
He literally, literally
he was he said,
and no,
well, is that the
muchucho
let's want to
those young
of that
are these things.
And this
sir, he said,
he,
he, you've got
so, you
not,
you know,
you don't
you know you're going to
tell
something
you're
a little bit of
you're a
miracle
he said
that night
they're not
they're
they're doing
to get
to get some
those things
and they
they're
to get to
this story
Julio
us
just a
text
that I want
because
says
many people
me
asked
about the
mysterious
light
blue of
my
pecho
what
nobody
is that
that was that
was that
was that
was a
medalla.
It was an
obsequio
of my
abuel
the day
of his
fallacy.
It was a
old old
medall
that used
like a
coer
that was
in devotion to
San
Benito.
I don't
ever
more more
to my
abuel
yeah
that
that
all
to bring
the
put
always
he
but I
know
that I
had been
that
had been
that
probably
probably
would
probably
this
this
he
lived
Julio
has
some
years
here in Mexico.
It's
impressive.
Completely
impressive.
And me
he's thinking
much in the
power that
has also
the power.
Independent
of the
faith that
you can't
have to
an deity
or an
identity
superior,
the love
how can
vibrate
to a
way that
transcends
planos
completely
and that
can continue
helping
even
in those
moments
so difficult. A me
made much
the attention
because
normally
the people
that carry
amuletos
I don't know
if you
do you
do aulet
or protection
physical
but when
I'm
to investigate
and I'll
talk about
with bruchos
this thing
me say
you do
you do
you do
you
do you
is the
power
to you
the
that is
notorgated
to
but
really
you protect
with your
proper
power
Yes,
sure.
It's
like a
canalisador.
Exactly.
So,
I mean
me got
clear more
in this
story when he
said I'm
a media
of San Benito
but I
was a
because I
remember the
love of my
abel
to my
abel
to his
essence
and practically
that was
that was
to be
that
actionar
and it
was like
a contra
for this
other
other
thing
that evident
definitely
I
wanted
to
was this story.
I was when I read me
poled completely
to the head.
Completely.
And,
yeah,
I mean,
I'm thinking
for all the
because also
for all.
How many
things
not we're
imbueying
of an energy
negative
for,
yeah,
you for the
other people,
even,
we're living,
we're,
we're,
it's that I'm
a tonto, is that
you're not
you're playing,
and the first
that's a majadry
yeah,
yeah,
And from there, the language,
the energy that you're
putting over you,
you know,
then you're not
you're playing a favor.
So,
me,
me,
to put attention
in what we,
in what we're doing,
we do we do we,
let me tell us,
I also,
another relatito
that I've got
just about
the people
of the people
of this
sort of in this
sense,
of the,
the brujas.
Okay.
I don't see if what you
told in the relato
earlier,
could be a
a brawl.
I think
I think so.
And me
remunta much
to this
experience that
also me
commenter,
me made
get to get.
And it's
about a
casserer of
bruchas.
Okay.
So,
so I'm
much to the
attention for
the rituals that
there are
there in
between
lines that
one can't
see, and
all part
of the
young
that me
contact,
that me
scribe this
relato
and of
how her
abuela
he
was a
way to
his abuel
was a
famous
casador
of brujas
in the
people
of her
and she
then it
was the
tatarabuela
the
tatarabuela
when
was a
little
she
was
she was
a
little
to
help
to the
not
he was
not
all
well
but they
had
they were
all
sufficient
like
to
going to
have some
pieces of
and they were in
a casita
of adobe
with a teachito
of lamina
so it was
sufficient in
that moment
to her
she'd
to be with
her
all the day
and
in some
moment
of the
life
see in
the pilon
a little
chikitin
that not
was contemplated
I mean
also
had been
been
contemplated
but that
the last
was to
And when this chiquitin
Nassio
Vino
with a series of
events
desafortunated.
They started
things
from the most
basic as
like the
causecha
no,
almost
all the
didn't.
The
little,
Bebecito,
recent
had been
cried,
day and
the night,
especially in
the nights.
The
nights,
no way
to
parrars. And
they're going to
pass
things
there
into the
house
and they
started
to hear
in the
techo
of the
house.
So,
in
some
moment,
they're
going to
these
phenomena
also
about the
people.
It's
was a
house
for
house.
She
was a
curandera
until
that
he
found
this
family
and
they
know
they
are the
origin of
this.
The
baby
that
had
has been
in that
moment
and what
he said
the curandera
was a
baby that
had a
don.
And that
was a
manjar
for
any
that's
in the
moment
in the
this
this
this
this
he's
there,
can
be
can't
contact
with
people
that
people
that's
that
they're
going to
be
to be
the
future
but
it
will
be
with
much
clarity
so
this babycito is the
that's
the babycito is the
what you're doing to
do you want to
do that's the only
way in the way that
you're going to
be able to live
for now of these
women but
believe me that
all the long
of the life
they're going to
and they're going to
get more
because at final
it's a don
that is like
an para rios
attract that's
energy so
so for now
what you have to
do is
yes or
if
baptize
and
that's
so I'm
going to
let's
a
cord.
This
cord
pertensio
a
campanario
and
is
in a
liston
rojo
that
also
that
is
and
and a
other
this
that you
see
is
prepared
with
a
or a
question
the
two
and the
right
and the
And this
cuerda
is
capable
to
tombar
a
quite
a
woman
the family
in this
moment
more
Catholic
than
this
people
these
and they
say
thanks
but
no
thanks
no
so
we
think
in
God
and
we're
here
a
object
that
that is
a
cord
no
no
us
doesn't
doesn't
make
sure
So, she
goes to the
and at the
side,
the little
tatarabuela
in that
moment,
he's,
and he
says,
you know,
I say,
I think.
Because I
have heard,
not only
it's a question
of a sensation
of that
I know my
manito
is in
a little
me the
cuerda.
So the
the,
the, I
think
that she, I
think,
I think
that she,
Tanta faith, with
a lot of
devotion,
that you
know,
take the
word and
he does a
little bit
a little
little bit of
the first
of the world.
You see
sustaining the
cord with force
in your
hands, and
still saying
this or
that carges
and the
carges of
energy.
And in the
moment in
that you
see,
that's
you're going
to do you
is to
letigaso
for that
that in that
moment
to get
quiet, and
the second
that you have
to be
rapidly is
to get to
to attach her. Amarra the
feet and armraly the
man. He says,
Ojo, I'm talking
right of a woman, but
it's not that he can't have the form of a
woman. In the moment in which
if you're going to have to have to actuar.
You have to be able.
Wow. The
little, receive the
cord, she met
to the house, and what happens
during the night, that
the next night, is that
just
the
baby
no
he doesn't
he went
and he
he was
the father
he's
a man who
he's
a man
he has to
be in the
best of
God
to get
to be
to
do you
get
dormied
but
then
then
so
they're
to hear
per
peros
awiando
per
perils
ladrando
and
from
the
people
they're
they're
they're
also
they're
also
a ruidazzo
those
dispirta
that's
the ruse
they're
kind of
some
there's
like a
little bit
and they're
they're
the baby
had
disappeared
so in
this moment
but
it's
but
the
the
the
little
the
little
in this
moment
still
still
not
not so
there's
that was
a grand
instrument
in
so
So, it's all going
without
into
the
hands,
I'll
go to
the
door to be in the
sotea
of the
house,
is a
kind of
a little
a long,
a long,
large,
large,
platyada,
brilliant,
but with
some
eyes
that were
like they
were like
humans.
This
this
mirada
was the
that
petrificed
for
a moment
made
some aleteos and
disappears
of their
view.
The
is then
that's
that's a
back to
and he
he's
his
little.
So,
he'll
get the
brother,
all you,
and you
what you
did you
see?
But,
no,
yes.
The day
next
we'll
see or
see,
to go
to be
to baptize
yeah
the boy
because
if this
mother
he will
get to
this
creature
in
this
moment
no?
Yeah.
They're
to
to look
to the
father
unfortunately
had
out of
the
people
and he
was to
the
day of
the
time.
So it was
a night
without the
certainty
that
his
his
could
aman
with
them
total
that
again
the
night
the
the
little
no
the
father
and
the
parents
but
at
final
those
don't
the
one
was
the
little
was
that
grandmother, in that moment, a
jovencita,
in the, in the
regas, had the reata,
that cord of
the church,
of the campanario,
and I repeated
one and other
again the same
oration that
had learned.
There in the
obscurity,
the point,
it's again
the other way
the passos.
So,
they're very,
they're
and they're
how this
animal, this
creature,
enter,
oh,
for one of
the
windows, and
he posa
just front
to the
baby.
Sient
the tarabuela,
he shud
the hands,
the parents
not get
and she
don't get
how with
that you,
the
people,
they're
to be
to
go to
lollas,
she arm
of valor,
and in
that moment,
to the
nothing,
he's,
he takes the
fatquess
and he
a tigas.
He does
in the
spalda,
this creature
is
petrificated,
no's
move
and it's
there
where
it's
there's
about
and
with the
same
cord
he
he'll
he
a marra
and he
was a
minute
and a
thing
a monster
okay
this is
a person
no
so
those
the
father
so the
baby
and he
starts
the
and the
people
get
from
and
then then
then
it's
to get
the
people
and
she
had
had
visit them. So, they're
to get the
first.
And in
when it's
the tumult,
the first
is we're
we're going to
we're going to
get to
there's, no,
there's
a wayjolote
of that
time.
No,
there's
that they're
those eyes,
not the
eyes of an
animal.
So,
effectively
they're
they're
in the
middle of
the camp
they're
they,
the animal
begins
to batir
his
ass,
it's
to be
a polvadera
they're
they're
no,
no paran
they're
not they're
they're
when
the polo
to get to
passivar
what there
is a
middle is a
woman
uh
a woman
that
knowcied
and they
were
and they
recognized
as a
person
of a
little
the
woman
for that
the
woman
for the
manch
what
is that
in the
transcurs
of the
day
it's
a
course
the
and at
the
people
are the
children
are the
children
and
they
didn't
get
the
face
of the
because
they
knew
perfectly
what
his
mother
was
doing
they
they're
in the
and
they're
they're
nothing
and
simply
disappear
but
a
part of
there
began
a
sort
of
a
sedio
of
bruchas
that
yeah
not only
they were
infantes
but they're
a manned
and what
this
youngcita
that
tatarabuela
she
was to
and then
then during
all the
years that
he took
of life
he was
he was
liberating
to that
she was
to the
town and
the people
and the
people
and the
people
along
when
when
she
went
to
a
age
very
advanced
she
I know that
he
was
getting
his
hour
and what
he said
what he
said
to the
family
is
for
favor
just
one
one
one
I'm
to
endiar
me
with
that
the
campan
because
if
not
they
don't
do
the
and
my
for my
essence
for my
soul
for my
and
no
me
they're
going
to
be
and
unfortunately
they
did
and
until
the day
of
day of
Tarabuela
still
enterada
with that
laso
that
casso
that's
a tantas
in the
past.
No,
manches,
what
story
that
more
interesting.
And is
that I
know that
oration.
I've
studied
the ritual.
It's
a ritual
of the
two
nods,
the
two
realities of
the
world,
you're
saying
one
you're
doing a
one,
you,
you're
with
the
other
another
and you
do you
do it
and
desatating
the
nudes. And literally
he does the
force to this
las or this cord. And
with that is intentioned.
That's an ritual, because
for very simple that it is
you're doing the intention
while you're replying
something and you're replying
something and you're does the force
to be able to
this type of entities
well, which are the bruchas.
And it's that ritual
precisely known to
to back to
the bruchas. But it's
is summently
dangerous if
the
fear to
get to
invade
because
something
something that
you know
you're
that you're
so much
that's
that we're
we're in
we
get a
story
that's
this story
compared
with the
two
stories
pastas
is a
little
a little
more
more recent
even
even
even
so
even
this
occurred
in the
year
2012
in
Puebla
and
not us
Compartee
his
Correo
and we
do a
context
quite
important.
Arturo
us
says
that in the
year
2012
he was
dedicated
to
vending
these
pneumatic
that occupant
the vehicles
tractors
etc.
And we
said
that was
hours
front
to the
volante
recorient
people
people,
ranchos
carterteras
looking
clients
because
that
when
they say
the
mark
of
but
we
don't
make
the
So, he'd
he'd
he'd
he'd
relatively
I'd
have a
life very
very quiet
he was
he said
me
he'd
to be
for the
just to
maintain
to me
and my
family
and with
that I
did I
do you
for
well
but
here
I'm
a question
I'm
in that
in that
in a
year
2012
was
started
to
start
certain
certain
internet
not
I'm
not
I'm
sure
in
what
was
Google
Maps
but
how
So how did the
people
before?
Before
that
existed
the GPS
and I mean
imagineate
how
they were
the people
to get us
in the
places
super
alidanios
and I
said that
they'd
they'd
a map
so
enormous
and with
the lapisero
with the
pluma
I'm
here, I
have to
get to
all
so it
was an
art
because I
do
this
emphasis
Arturo
us
he said
that he
he
had
in
his map
physical
tracada
his route
and this
point B
to go to
a
point B
to C
that is
where are
the
people
or the
people
that
normally
they
would
they
didn't
his
his
products
so he
then
he
he said
he
he was
he was
he was
like
a tractor
and
these
things
and
he had
he
got
he was
he
got
he
he was
he
2012, the
life was put
against the
part of the
because his
his son
was a kid
of eight
years and
he needed
of a
treatment
medical,
then for
part of
this
he had,
he had,
he had,
he had
all the
things,
and he
started
the
money,
in
studies,
medical
and things
and things
and he
was said
that he
was very
altered
because
yeah
the
money
no
But he's
decided to
do something
to get
the habitual
he said
I need to
better more
and he
was mentalized
what he had
to sell
the yentas
more
the tractors
to all
to what he
could get
more
and he
he said
and it was
when
I risked
to go
to go to
route
that I
know
I know
this
in zones
of Puebla
of
the zones
of Veracru
even
a little
also a
this
side,
Oaxaca.
Okay.
And so
to make that
brother,
between
people,
ranchos.
He said,
the
really,
I was I
know I'm
not know I
know this
zones.
He'd
to places
very rarous
where
it was
a lot of
people, but
only were
there were
sometimes
there's,
so he
said,
here the
fear is
here.
Here is the
health of
my
child and
I need
I need
I
need to
communication.
There
areas where he used
a cellular
of tapita
and he
went to
the antenna
and mark
or by a
message of text
the classic
not the
primarito
was in
communication
with his
family
and he
said that
so he
was how he
went to
a
place
that the
name
me says
that no
for
privacy
of the
people
not we
don't
we know
this
place
that
is
just
in these
states
that
I mentioned
He says,
me
he called
the attention
something
of this
place.
At the
people,
one of
the things
strange is
that all
the houses,
all the
casas
between
the windows
and the
door
had
a cross
of cal
markedas.
Okay.
So,
and
the windows
and
cruces
of cal.
And in
every
end,
in every
the square
a
santo
of
a time
real.
A San Judd's
a virgin
statues
of a
timeions
grandissimates
so
so it's
very
great.
And that
he
called the
attention
of this
people.
It was
a
place.
It was
a person
he said
I was
a
passable
a
a tientita
so
his
strategy
was this
I
know
a
I'm
a
a
tiendita
me
of the
Tienda,
that
as a
person
that
know a
person that's
I'm going to
see,
oh,
here,
this,
he's
who's
he's
he's
he's
his modus
of the
job.
And he
said,
he's
he's
he's
so he
had
times,
like
in that
then you
didn't,
you were
a time,
it was
a car
but
they despatch
but
you don't
enter
so,
so you
all
security
like if
were,
no
if
if they were
scondient
of something
and said,
but is that
no,
no see,
no see
what's
what's
going to
the people
not come in
the
people don't
go to the
schools
vacies,
and he
says that
talking with
the
store of
the
he's,
he's
that I
see that
I'm a
person,
I'm a
handas
I know
of someone
that
he occupies
of this
number of
RIN
of this
altar
blah blah
blah blah
of these tractors
also I'm trying
and he says
look,
see,
for that
direction,
there's the person
that has
the person that's
about the
and he'll
and he'll
and they come
some of the
carionette
and he was
in that direction
he's
he's trying
trying
this benefit
he says
that when
he said
he was there
he was
there to the
grits
well
until that
someone
salio.
What happened?
What's the
offer?
No,
well,
I'm of a
company,
us say they're
they're
they're
yentas,
I'm going to
do you know
the information.
He said,
and said,
and they said,
no,
in your
moment.
They went,
entered
to the
house,
by the
keyed
the security
of the
doors,
passel.
And you,
and I,
say,
entraned with
the
can't,
and me
of cana,
much sierra
of maize,
a person
that's a person
that's
a person who
was going to
and so it
and so it
was it,
it was to
get to
this place
because so
I got
I'm
vending,
he said.
Between
the
the negotiation,
me did
the night.
Me did
the night
and me
and he says
if you know
you know
you know
the map
and more
or less
or less
he said
me
to go to go.
He said,
but you know,
man,
no you
go ahead.
It's
dangerous if you
go to right.
You can
assaults,
apart,
not knowces.
He says,
is that I
need to get
to that
place, because
my son
is a
thing,
so,
and say,
go,
this morning
and I'm
never,
no,
he said, well,
the
sir,
very amably
he gave
a place
where to
pass the
night.
Dice,
that's
that night
CENar, and
maybe
out where
there was patio,
he's got
his telephone,
he quitts the
antenna,
mark.
His wife
he said,
but he
was very
angustied.
Because
he says
that the
kid is that
is very
grave.
He's a
he back.
He's
he's in
the hospital,
but
no,
he has to
be back
the fever.
That's
to say,
to say,
he's
a man
to be
a
house,
is a
martyio.
In that moment, he said,
I'm going to go to
ask the
Lord, he says
he's a
thank you,
but I'm
to go.
And the
man,
he's not,
he's
it's a
dangerous.
No,
is that I'm
going to
go,
I'm going
to go.
He's,
and he's
and not
me will be
to believe.
But is
that there's
there's a
reason for
the
people
have marked
to his
houses
because there
there's
so people
because the
people don't
and there
practically
he told
a story
of terror
he
said that
he said
he's
many
years
when
they're
building
the
capilla
principal
of
this
public
in the
construction
they
found
an
image
but
it
was
someone
was
and
in maldad
was
to vote
a
statue
to
the
diablo
says
that the
people
the
people
strange
began
to
occur.
Uh-huh.
So,
it's
a person
but
great,
is enormous.
He has the
head
like a
back,
like
was an
animal,
but
alas
very
great.
And that
this
had been
been
seen by
many people.
That
had to
the animals,
that he
had the
chickens,
disappeared
to be
and that
practically
they'd
them were
for
They used the form of
to protectors,
you know,
marking their
houses,
occupant this
act of faith,
of putting
cruces,
to put crosses,
and that
that's,
the people
did have to
have the
visit of this
being.
So,
when this
this vendor
he's got this,
is in
serious?
That for
that I'm
going to
get to,
I said,
no,
I mean,
I'm
I'm going to
go to
see a
my
I said,
and he's
the
sir,
look,
no
you're
not
you're
okay,
but let me
for the
least
to clean
your vehicle.
He said
he had
a cubeta
that he
thought,
he was
a cubeta
that had
like a
brush
that was
a
barnis
no,
it was
it was
and he
he said
and he
he was
to make
to make
his
vehicle.
Wow.
He said,
no,
no,
in the
work
me going
to
no, no,
de this
in your
place.
Thanks,
to one.
So,
let's
go in the
unidad
and he
go.
But he
got tendidissimo
because the
pressure
he had to
get to
another
poblad,
to get to
a carreter
that he
knew, and
well,
he's
he said
that route.
The
problem was
to get
to this
place.
I don't
know he.
Then he
says that
the light
of the
cabin,
put the
map there
put the
map there
and he
go and
go, and
he's
going,
when it
he had
like
10,
15
minutes
of
the
time,
it's
a
time,
it's
he's
a
little
in the
car
so
something
something
he.
He
thought
he
had
had
a
ram
of a
tree
or
a
thing
to
see
to
see
to
and
he
and
he
he
started
how
something
he
was
all
the
car
of
this
one
like a leto
like when
when you
when you
when you
get a
leteer
because
that's
that's
he's
he's
he's
he's
going to
go to
the retrovisors
he's
as he's
he's
what's
what's
what's
and he
he's
he says
he's
he said
he's
he thought
he was
he's
even
he went
to think
he's
he's
he
they're
that they
they're
they're
on
some
something
but
when
he
does this movement
he's
a little
a lot of
two meters
and see
that this
this ser
started to
go to
with the
patas
the caja
and it
emitted a
like if
it was the
like the
kind of
a gile
but very
gross
he says
I don't
know what
I said
I don't
what did
in the
space
retrovisor
some
some people
put in
qualked
a rosario
the only
he did
and he went
to get
the rosary
of the
retrovisor
me
I'm put
and to
and to
read what I
remember
the Father
Nuestro
the Abem
Maria
and the
really
not me
just to
to get to
my
yantas
and
the
the rins
no me
importo
nothing
I'm
caught
in a
lot
of
baches
and
that
thing
still
he
said
until
he
did
he
this poblad and reincorporate to a
a carreterer, yeah transited,
yeah, with luses.
That thing, he said,
he's going to go on various kilometers,
still very nervous, very spantado.
He's paro in a gasolinerer,
went to, to come to a,
a, to come to a coffee,
and when he put to revisit the
caj, and all,
he said that they had some
ojoes,
like if something, a
had meted his in
and literally
would have
well
roto
the metal
he's
he's
until the
last
because it's
an anecdote
what he
he's
talking
he's
he
in the
gasoliner
detue
the
carionette
to carry
combustible
when
back
I went
and
I've got
to be
the
alma
was
she was
she
was
full
and
like if
something
had
had
tried
that
that
was
the
last
that
was the
I can I try
to recor
those
can't
the
night
the
money
never
will
more
than my
life
is
impressive
what
some
people
in
serious
experiment
and
that
never
we
imagine
we
I
think
I
keep
is
that
me
I
remember
much
to
these
stories
that
suen
on
north
of
a
part
about
a
gargola
and
how
And how is possible
that still
in these times
can existier
those creatures
that are
this story is
of 2012?
2012?
CASEY-2020?
But that
creature,
well, that
could continue
for there?
Just,
me
I remember much
of the
stories of
the
man,
Pajaro,
or of
these gargolas
that we
have been
earlier in
this podcast,
that it
seems much,
no,
legends,
creencers, but that
at least in this
people, that
is between
Veracruz and
the people, the
people, the
people, the
people, the
people, the
thing is,
something has to
exist for that
that's people
are in
that there
are there
are not,
so,
I don't,
no,
no, they're
to be
to exist here.
So,
that's,
man,
but,
let me
tell me,
let me
tell you,
the last
of the
relato
that
I'm
here
prepared
and that
just
also
is
very
recent
and this
me
it's
this
me and
it's
not
I think
that
I think
I
did
get
and I
know
they're
so
and
I
would
like
to
and I
just
that's
that
they're
on
a
while
you
know
you
know
there
people
that
they're
so
the
and
never
they thought
that
they were
to
find out
to
be in
a
natural
and
me
they're
from
the
perspective
of
the
nieto
the
the
nieto
was
who
had
this
situation
a
little
a
distance
because
not
was
so
he
was
that
his
father
he
he
could
tell
all
these
things
that
were
going
to
the
part
that
from
when
the
A little,
working in the
camp with his
father,
he he
he would be
day,
all the time
working,
there no
there was
for the
school,
nothing.
You now,
you're
you know,
to fregardle,
no,
let us.
In the
nights,
his abuel
was he
was a
and he said
that he
had to be
to comeer,
and he
was,
they'd
to get to
the house,
and they
were,
to
ask
herbs
the
the
the
father
he's
he
said
these
are
to
curate
this
is
for
to
and
this is
and
these are
to
maldecy
these
are
to
then
then
so
he
went
to
long
of
many
nights
a
sometimes
yeah
sometimes
not
but
the
long
the
long
the
abel
and
he was
he
was
saying
things
He was telling
stories,
things that he
had been
and he
had been
and he
had been
of certain
dangers.
In
some point
of the
life,
he
he said,
and the
father and the
father
he says,
you know
you can
be able to
your
abel
because
your abel
because your
abel
he has
so much
years.
So,
how
he's he
he asked
a little
to endagar
but he
he just
a
little
the
response
too
his father,
he felled in an accident.
Aze much time,
here in the,
in,
in,
in,
in, in,
the,
in,
he was,
he was,
a coyote,
to robes
to the
galleas,
he'd
the vehas,
he'd
desastres
for all parts,
and the
people,
so,
and the
people,
and,
unfortunately
to someone
was a
little
Tiro, and there
fallacy your
abuel.
So,
then the
young,
like, I
have another
version of
the facts,
that more
a little
his
children, and
was that
that coyote
was his
abuel.
The
abuel
he had
told,
he had
confessed,
that,
effectively,
he was
doing
maladdardes.
And one
of the
the, of the
Precious of
having
power
can
be not
know
when
you're
and you
get to
use to use
it.
So,
in a
way
he gave
these
hermint
he reded
all this
knowledge
but
also
he added
various
lessons
for
that he
was in those
he got in
he was
he was
he
he left to
see he
he didn't
get to
all this
equipment
what he
did
was
to start
to amas
fortune
He started,
yes,
he went
in the
camp,
but
a little to
little
he started
to grow and
to get to
get to
the contract
people,
until
that also
that also
he bought
tractors,
compro
machinery,
until
he signed
a contract
with the
central
and the
central and
organized
to all
the people
that was
to be
to start
to start
for there
and he
started
a
period.
It duro
many years
that
prosperity
because
because he
also he
could also
comprise
a good
casita,
to have
good
terra,
have family
and these
associations
with the
central
of the
and
other,
it was
benefisying
to the
that when
was a
adult,
then you
had a
one little
a bonit
and that
and that
started to
call the
attention
of the
people.
So,
in
some
one of
his socius
he vend
a
can't
a
with that
I went to
back
to
yeah
and
he's
doing
things
and in
one of
the
nights
was
that he
was
so
he was
so
so
he
he was
he
were
other
vehicles
and
he
back
on
um
arms
arm
and
he
he
he said
nothing
of what
I'm
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
to
do
but
don't
but
they were
they're
for the
vehicles
and
for
him
us
it was
them
and
they were
they were
moving
a little
a little
a little
into a
carita
prepared
it was
they're in
a
cariadit
and he
caladito
no
he said
no
just
listening
what was
saying
or you
that
started
yeah
to
saborrear
the
fortune
you
you
you're
you
vas
and you
you go
and
you vas
and
we're
we're
So, so, and
they started
to
play barraja,
to
open
bottles.
All
a rattito
yeah
he's
all the
time,
he
actu.
He said
what
he did
was
transmutar.
Cambiar
his form
physical
and
convert
in a
cat.
That was
an
animal
that was
a
very,
no,
not transmutable
like
if
if
had
an animal totem.
He could
transmutar
a
through the
animals that
are in
a lot of
he was a
cat.
And he
took the
form of the
cat,
he was
a little
that one
that one
that one
person
never
had never
could
get a
and when
he made
a bit
a bit
to be
who are
his captors
because
he was
going to
get to
see.
And he
he began
to be
to be
all of
people,
and he
did you
do you
see that
one of
a person
of their
person, of
all
his
confidence
was there.
No.
The
traition
that's
that's
the moment
was
something that
was a
pacifu
a
little the
ira
of the
events
that
more
because
what he
did
to get
to
his
after
that
was
to start
a
ritual
but
not a
ritual
of
a
but
a
ritual
of
a
justice
because
of
a
in all
that
and I
think
that's a
maybe
he had
done by
need to
that
not a
person
bad
but
not
he was
not
he was
so
he's
this
ritual
of
and
what he
did
was
in the
next
days
all
what
good
that
they've
done
all
what
that
all
long
of
his
years
he
It will be recompensated or maldecid.
So, if you are a person that has been doing much
bad, in the next days, much more you're going to receive.
For the morning next, in that same cabana,
in that same quartet, al-a-lejado, meted in the
serro, they're, they're, to one of the men,
he had
put the arm in the
and had taken the
worst of
the worst of
all the
decisions
in the
carretera
they found
a other
in a state
of locura
completely
altered
vagando
without
know
who was
another
of the
other of the
people
of the
town
he's
he's
seven days
of
fever,
seven days of
and
it's
he's
and he
finished
the
life.
And the
last
was
his
people
of
his
even
could
call
a
friend
he
he
he
he
was
he
he
overrach
vagando
in
the
and
without
family
without
a
job
a
a
piltrafa
human
after
after
of
that
the
the
abuel
or that's
what's what
he said,
yeah
no
he was
to practice
any one of
these
until
there's
not even
to create
more,
to be
ostentos
to do
what he
started
to manage
like a
bad
profile
even
so I
had much
and
he had
various
children
he
not
not
no
no
in a
year
disappeared.
No manches.
To the
children
no less
more than
the education,
the contacts,
the abilities
social that
were developed
while their
while their
because
they started
to play
between them
and it's
that terrain
is me
no,
this
and the
bank
and he
he got
his part
and the
government
came
and got
his part
and the
mania
came
and then
all
all
disappeared
to me
me
this person
niento of this
man who
said that
in reality
never
never
conviviered
but
his father
he
told
these stories
and
until
they have
something
not is
because
the
father
he's
not
in
really
it's
because
it's
because it
has
the
story
that
the day
that
a
group
of
people
up
a war
So it's
that's
I mean
I'm
I remember
to a
story
that I'm
like I
know
with this
I'm
like that's
a person
that's
a person
that's
that's
that's
so it's
asombrose
how
I think
the
context of
the history
that I
do you
is
it
they're
they're
literally
it's
infiltra
with
an
appearance
animal
and
and
And I got this information and that
history has a lot of time that I
conted. But how, I go,
one, you're going to
get into with something that
to start, if you want to do
a person like, you
should be aware a consequence
and that not be so simple,
to have a person captured
with this type of ability.
Sure. I mean, we're talking to people
that have their sons
super-developed, canals
abiertos,
the energy
flueging,
energy,
at times,
of the
other entities
that they're
these are in
these favors.
But what
can get to
get to occur in
these cases.
Wow.
How did you
do you?
I was
a person.
I was
a little
I've seen
all your
stories.
Oh,
equal.
Incredible.
The fact
is that it's
a space
that
very far
me, the
terror, the
mystery, the
paranormal,
lejos,
to
atemorizar me,
me try
a pass,
a tranquillity
so.
So,
so I'm
so much.
Much of you.
Thank you
too.
And so much
people put
these podcasts
to do this
because
they relax.
So for those
who listen
that they
can't,
that's
that's
that's
that's
that's
that I'm
thank you
thank you
I'm
thank you
for accept
the invitation
for coming
here with
us over
for
to share
your
stories
before
just to
let's
let me
to record
to
your
Reds social.
Sure,
in all
parts,
me are going
to find
like Chris
Dorn
K-R-I-S-D-R-D-E-N
Chris Durden.
Checking
all what we
are doing in
Instagram,
in TikTok,
in Facebook,
in YouTube.
We have lives
all the
Marches.
Are two
hours, two
hours and
a minute
of relato
so.
So,
all the
Marche,
we're doing
all the
other networks
are going to
find all
those clips-
we're doing
all the
things,
we're doing
a little
between
the humor
and the
terror. I think
you're going to
do you want to
do
thank you
thank you
family
for
favor of your
mind of
your heart
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After the
next.
Ciao.
They're
to report
that they
get to
see the
silhouette
of something
that they
call the
murder
to face
to the
house.
But in the
moment
that I
went to
see to
his
face
had
changed
for complete.
For
complete.
The
friend
was not
there.
No
they were
to find
to the
morning
when
they're
in the
young
and they
they
they're
a
co-u-a.
This
this
this friend
he was
the
contact
receive
to this
entity
feminine
and
Intentat and to have a
encounter a secal with the other.
Something,
Tirae,
something that seems to say,
she not going to be
to be able to get back.
She,
she will never be
peace.
