Hice un pacto con una entidad que no me deja solo | ft. Héctor Pacheco | Ep 140
00:00 Very devoted to the moment. So, your negotiation depends on much of the death. You can can't
00:05 that they're that they're and they're and the and the real real the lente was very
00:11 burlona. Welcome to Family Nighter to this new episode to let us of the
00:17 new episode special. Front of me is Pacheco that he is recommended in a person that
00:26 was here that he said narrator you need to to talk with him. He has some stories that are impactants.
00:33 And I've a moment we've talked about and I'm tell you know this episode have to be to see this
00:39 this episode. Pacheco, how you're good? Thank you. Very well. Welcome. You thank you
00:45 have done the time that you give the opportunity to tell here because I know that various of the stories
00:49 that you're going to are personales so I'm so I'm being present that they're listening to
00:55 what they're listening that's entertainment are some video. Some life of
01:00 some people. So, I'm so the part of the public invitation.
01:03 I mean, I'm definitely so. It's some experiences personal that's that's
01:06 that's long as my life in, and before to be a agent immobiliario,
01:13 and I have been a agent immobilierer also. They've been many,
01:16 things, interesting, that's not know to know, more people, more,
01:22 very, personales, to the people I'm, I'm not to do,
01:26 but so I I don't know I'm just. That's the community, the community of the family
01:32 nocturnan let me be the not really is a community that's a community that's being made these people,
01:41 they're doing this they're doing to say, a me and that's a story that has been a lot of
01:45 time. So, so, sitete to be the family well, and one
01:51 once said that I'm said that I want to talk to this person, when it's the first
01:56 when it's the Me said for there that you have many stories to tell us. Is this
02:00 this? That's what it is? What do you if to be just to give the best of this
02:05 can't I? I'm going to you one. This story me the last about a few days
02:13 and it has to be with this thing that we're talking that we're talking about
02:17 things that are that this story, if they're in the episode of Carlos
02:23 Oced is the relato that he said I'm going to give to form very resumied in
02:27 details. Carlos is a person that has a life normal 100% in your
02:35 adolescence you invite a group Catholic. This group Catholic is a type of deformation
02:42 spiritual, moral, and are five years of formation. He entered, he,
02:47 he got a group of people, and he was there during various time.
02:53 He said he were They were together the sabbado, then reunions of and a year, there were a
02:59 retiro. If they were a city, and there were in this group they were an a word the fact.
03:08 The fact is that this type of groups, much, is a combination of between
03:13 to know people, to be people, to be a many people have done to the
03:19 formation and is more the part social. There others that are
03:23 enfocant in the part of formation moral, spiritual, dogmatic, and so. I think this
03:30 occurs in all the religions and all the group social. Well, the point is that Carlos,
03:35 no he was the type not more entregated, nor more credient, simply he was going,
03:41 a good, and with a group of people, and then he came, when he
03:46 got a third year, go to a return, and what he says,
03:49 is the more is very a something that I have been in this type,
03:55 but I was not a prepared for what he he said. He comments that they are doing a
04:01 oration. They're all in this group. For this this is the third year,
04:04 are people are people are people who have seen many and they sometimes
04:09 some and they they're to change the voice and they're to
04:13 talk in a type of a different One's entre-balbuceos, others are talking rapid.
04:21 Of a repent, some people start to start to talk to something that nobody more see than they, the person who is the phenomenon.
04:31 Carlos, is there in the room, is it that's being that's going to that's going to start, he's doing
04:38 an oration that are of kind of kind of kind of things in many moments is so.
04:46 So, he verbalizes but he's conscious and he says what's what's what's going to
04:49 he's he a lot of he's a lot of the person and he smacked
04:56 he's back and the person separate a meter of the and he he
05:02 said he doesn't idea the the level of me
05:06 and they're and there there in this situation that
05:12 was something was something the people had been said that this
05:18 existed and that was like a wonderful I don't live so for me it was a
05:23 cause that I'm that I'm that I'm never even he also he said it was
05:31 like to see it's like a movie of you know the first time you have to see that
05:39 those pictures of that maybe they're never you know once you have said that's
05:43 Chico, tell me your story. Very well, first the thing of Yoruba, that I've commented on the first of
05:48 before, I'm doing before I'm when it's not a model, as like the way,
05:54 as well, I know, I know. a senior in the business family, I'm in
06:03 the business, I'm in the night and I'm to start at the business, I'm
06:07 got in my job, at the the interior of the business,
06:13 the interiors start to start to be to be a parpresent
06:17 to be a very very very this good she's in the
06:20 recivor and me comment you who are you do you do you
06:25 do you do you do get a but tacante salte okay
06:31 me I'm I'm come and he comes and he and he
06:37 where you know you my job I'm a master. Okay.
06:42 Your energy is very very strong. You know, I don't understand the normal. I'm okay, what I do? What I do? I say,
06:57 I'm going to be a business, pass around 10 minutes and me and me says any that you more ahead
07:05 contact me your number you know you know she has okay I Disconnocia
07:13 situations like these because it was to enter me to a world that I wanted and that when I'm going to enter
07:20 I refer to know how I've been never been septic me pass things that started to
07:27 quadrard so like I I'm this I'm this and I
07:32 said because why it does it I'm I'm know the because of
07:35 the a comrade of the religion Catholic and we went to a good
07:41 about a question about that I'm really I'm used things that I'm not going to
07:46 they're saying. First situation that was to get to this
07:52 she was just simply was like contact me I'm I'm in the
07:59 town of the city for that so okay perfect
08:00 the she the she made the spina clavada, I said, what I imagine, something to question
08:08 to me, to the business, all this. The past of the time, we know, we've got to that in the property where we've been
08:18 to hear things very strange. Arrestra, and toys, or these, like, bacinicas of practice for babies or
08:28 children, that's active only thinks, well, you're fearing the pila, not a bad, but
08:34 so things that we'd have been to think that were going to think that
08:37 were going to not a question. Perfect. Contacted to the sirs.
08:45 We're saying, we're going to this. Vena to my house.
08:52 Let's hear of the caracoles. The actor of caracoles have a super book
08:55 grandissimo. The first experience was that and we did I practice the
09:02 Yoruba. That's the Yoruba. us We'll explain to the story of the religion
09:07 Okay they're in a part of she's in a little right that's
09:13 now she has more of the person, we don't do you know the ceremony we're
09:24 not to do you don't that's part of her me she says she's
09:29 enter if it in Cuba I don't let me the time of Cuba to pay
09:34 the thousand $1,000 for the people, for the doctrine is like Avalau. I said,
09:41 I mean, I want to know I'm going to get the feet completely, because obviously we know we're going to
09:45 go back. The people is malay, people are people good in the life, that's obviously,
09:51 we're not to be the bados, and the good are not sure. It's to start
09:57 to get to get to the yoruba, as three ceremonies, to the time of the time
10:02 of time of things that they're they're that I know it in the
10:10 actuality I don't know because they've passed 12 years the practice
10:14 those years that's that's and then know a little more
10:19 of this never I never I never me perjured
10:24 the people in being there is for that you
10:28 you you can in that the time not
10:33 the thing of the money economical, everything, I want to me,
10:38 not pass out for my case in that. So, for that so I never
10:40 never never to work things. But I know things very, very,
10:44 very very very in the ceremony, in the which was a
10:49 lechon, it was a in the one in the that was a
10:53 dark, totally black, with adornos or accessories in the
10:59 the pors, and the chives, with chives, the animals with quarnes
11:06 around. To me it's very rare. The querns no related to the devil
11:11 so. I said in the quarters pure, I'm in the black
11:16 and I had a many, I said many, I said many questions,
11:21 and I say, I'll say, me me this, me he'll
11:26 live it, at final to do do, okay. In the Tock
11:29 Ambor was literal, the to talk at tambour, a song of
11:33 a music. Very beautiful in the music. In rezos in the internaissance
11:39 of the song. And you you're you're moving, you'd them've been
11:45 they'd be able to get them a little we're sitting on two feet of in circle
11:53 and the person principal just to the center of the circle has been
11:58 a to the time I strained. Me I liked the story this of the
12:06 Yoruba, all this. Sal go to the quarter and I'm what I see what'sy what'sy
12:11 what I'm nothing black. The religion Catholic Yoruba empata much I'm
12:23 back to he said okay I think because I'm because I think
12:25 because I think it there's there was to the Yoruba natural
12:33 could be the not commercial the Yoruba that that's not I don't know that's about
12:41 I'm going to say the cruz but infante if they're in juruba and how time has been perfect
12:49 I said okay I know where we're where I'm sorry this this is this was this
12:55 was in the 2008 2010 2008 2008 and and you you're
13:03 you're you're you're you're you're you're you can't
13:06 we're in a circle I was I was almost I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna there's
13:15 there's people that comevvian in to play the timbor and you're gonna to be talking tocando passing
13:23 in the tupjones and say no ragoon no nothing literally pass and you
13:30 see you're you're not to tumbar in relation no that are in the a cell. And you empuckaband,
13:37 to front, to back? No. From here. To the right. Right.
13:41 So, the right. So, never was nothing to yeah. Pass. Yeah.
13:51 It's all in the Monterey that ceremony. We went to two three
13:55 ceremonies. The to the tambour. Yeah, now, so in house,
14:01 yeah, all right, all right, we're after the lectura of caracoles, ceremonies, all this, me contact
14:07 a friend. As I said, I'm a little bit of people. I'll talk about it. Me said, an friend, oh, you know,
14:14 you know, you know, my house, my his dog, he's got a I, I'm just,
14:21 but I said that a pigger he's a pug. Me made an attention
14:27 because, I think, if I'm to talk for, I've responded to the
14:30 tiger's the Baja Pacheco of that then he said, he goes to help him
14:36 and give to give to the religion. I'm going to the people. So, if I'm a benefit,
14:42 I'm perjudic, because no me to be to be to give me.
14:49 Okay, and what is the what is what is what is what I'm in my
14:53 house, I'm a little I'm a little bit of the room where he in the
14:59 housegues, there me he says that he's that he he goes to you know, no,
15:05 you know, they say, no, nothing. My son my son my son, he's not
15:08 my friend, me, with the door a door abirted, he's a little,
15:14 he's not a interesting. Okay, what more? He says, look, this tiger
15:22 me says that's very bad me said, me he's he's a he's, but no,
15:27 there's no more a tiger. I'm you've put to think that that's put to be
15:32 the I mean, I say, I'll have the things. You have to get to get to and say,
15:39 I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna know, the time that I'm that I'm
15:44 that's I'm gonna to know to be to know, let me invite me to give to
15:52 let me do you know? You can be in your house? No? Is that I'm,
15:59 my husband no dorm, my son no Dorme. Okay? Go? Let? We'll,
16:05 let. Let us I said, I said, I'm sure. I go, I tell you what's going to
16:14 me say, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm sure, because that's put for a session spiritist.
16:19 And I said, I said, my session spiritista in the head to have to Capulina,
16:27 to Don Ramon, in every, something. Something, exactly. Something, something,
16:32 something, something, pantacioso, no? My he said, me to get to the people,
16:40 among my that we're in this of the religion, I think, okay, perfect, we're,
16:46 we're, and we're, she, she's, the other we're not us, we're not
16:51 more people, because we don't get in things to get in the fear,
16:55 and we we don't we're to the people, it's like, so, I'm going to
17:00 be going to get to me to get, I not going to be to be to
17:05 You know, at the day, at your house, at the time, at the night we're going to go to be in.
17:10 Because I do you, do you do not do you, all is for a good,
17:13 okay. We're all the night and we're all right, we're two people,
17:19 we're about 12 people and two more with the woman and her and she
17:23 and he and he and pieces and talk of the , part
17:30 of the of the the ceremony and And it's the good. What is the good? The session Spiritist.
17:40 12 violators on the 13 of the night that's consumed. Not all. But they were consuming
17:49 as much I was the time. And we had to be a friend, her and her
17:56 and we were my friend, her and her wife, I, and
18:01 I, and I went to the circle. And the The Lord, the
18:11 is she's and she's and she's and he will be and say, or he will be able to say to his life to hear what he wants to hear. Because he knows that you
18:25 want to do something. He'll say nothing bad for you. Receive it. It's a venison for you that he'll tell you, he'll tell you. I said, he is
18:36 she. Okay. He's with my friend, that's the first of the circle,
18:43 and my my friend he says things of his life, things that's
18:49 that, that will live, and yeah, deja a bellator of my my
18:56 amigua, and with my wife my my my friend. And, and
19:03 this the that's that's that's an I'm going to get to
19:09 know to hear a voice very of a man, you know you're not
19:14 in me what's what's here he's so nojado or enogated
19:18 and I was in the sixth after of like like
19:24 I said I'm I'm to start to not the
19:31 woman with the bellar in the my reaction a thought
19:37 was, it was he was in the head in the head. Because no cre in
19:40 her, not crees in me, no crees in him, and it and it's the,
19:44 the vealada or the cera or the car, that's her liquid, so it's
19:51 that's it's it's made the veil about the valetora in the the cell
19:57 the ser cremated in her in her and so it was like for all, for
20:02 all, it was impactante because never an spiritism no one
20:06 we're there I mean my am I'm like the husband me held
20:12 the man and I'm going to this is this is all for well it's all to be
20:18 so we're to catch it be yeah with me my surprise
20:24 is that when I see the car he was a a bigito
20:30 and the voice of a man great for this when he had
20:36 with me no see in markers of cera and chemurred amputas
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21:25 And I was saying, but I was talking, that I see different to know that there's a tracer and with you guys like, like without and the voice
21:35 like I said very big and the coming like a baston and he had a baston
21:41 and he got to move away and so I go ahead and it when you know that
21:47 when I was because I'm I'm wrungated arugated is the man
21:51 is a black of the white black more more tall than I
21:55 made an 85 approximately pen pelo ruby long
22:01 suelt but But, yeah, she was a very, very, I mean,
22:05 very arugated, I mean, the eyes like in treasurrated, very strange. Okay. Yeah.
22:12 Termina the recorriot, yeah in the of San Lazzar where each one, about what he says,
22:22 her mama, and say, now, so, because with me because it was an in the link
22:26 with me a friend, so it was, so, it's, you'll explain what you
22:29 but, tradusel it for you say, me he's going to
22:34 start going to the person that's a person that's a man will
22:40 enter in she's going to be a he's a man a man in his
22:47 car and what is that is he's he's his his
22:52 house the the house is in my house is my
22:56 house so so you're going to do this. If you attack, attack, attack, la, or do you know,
23:05 do you know, that's a exactly. What's the tiger? Exactly. What in the tiger, supposedly, to, what we're,
23:13 we're talking, in the tiger, said, a little, he said, that's a, that, that,
23:19 that, he was, he, or at a more, he, he'd be a, he'd,
23:23 he'd be, to be, he'd, he'd, he'd, to know, to know, that's a
23:27 little, he'd, okay, perfect. I'm, I'm a I'm a woman
23:33 no I'm not the word his factions can be a of a man 35 years
23:43 yeah maduro a faction yeah a signo so enoged no this is my
23:50 house you're here you're you're not you're saying I said like I said
23:57 like I'm here I'm here I'm here always I'm here I'm impacted because
24:07 that's she's a person and he's a guy he's another so what's
24:12 what's what's he's the woman she had to attack attack
24:22 so that that's that's that's that's okay and my
24:27 me me he's he's to get to he's he's got to
24:31 know he's he's he's he he's he's he's
24:35 he's he's with all. And they said, respond to the front, like you, and I say, let's tell you. Ashto to lay your life,
24:50 your house, your your wife, your son, your your little bit, there's, they're going to forcegear. There's a, there's a, a sofa, pardon, at the time, and across to the
25:01 senior, and he starts to, go to the sofa, the senior with the the head and the back on
25:10 the back on the foot and the man began to get to get that
25:15 the and the the little was really a ha ha ha ha
25:19 so this this is I know I I is diabol
25:27 so there's so there there's eyes oh ho ho I'm
25:34 I'm I'm yeah I never more in never I
25:37 never I And the moment of the pleito, so like that. The the entee
25:46 he has a my friend, my man he he's and he's he got,
25:53 he's got he, he's gotchee. He, he starts on the gulfes. The
26:00 surprise was that the, obviously there's there's there's there's
26:04 there, no, my my friend, he, he's to revinta the
26:09 the of the woman. The medium that had into the spirit? Your friend
26:14 was a bit of the boy he was the redent the yeah, so
26:17 like, like, like, people, they're people, so, the people,
26:21 so, the people, I'm my man, my man, my man, my
26:26 one, about, 75, so, so, I'm not very really, and don't
26:30 do, and then the repented the her man and and the senior
26:36 kept a like what you said the and what you say the caters and what is in the descans to the head
26:43 never willte to what is the restaldo so like that he kept and it and it's
26:49 a repend yeah that's that was her response yeah so
26:58 yeah yeah that's that that's not was what that's
27:02 not when it's when it says yeah it's she
27:06 was the a book, no had a no, we know, we know,
27:12 we're going to nothing. Nothing. Nothing. So, in the piece of there's
27:17 my my friend, my man, the the heart of the he doesn't he's back to
27:24 say that I mean, I mean, I mean, after this four the morning, four and
27:32 a half, we're we're we're we're a man, a week, a second,
27:38 a week, and to be in my house. I said, no, it was a lot more than I said, no, it was a lot more than I was never even though. I said, because there was to do not, you know, we're going to do with it.
27:56 What happened with the tiger? My son's up here. Dejoed to talk of the the name of the new. Yeah. Okay. The the young, I mean, no, I was not about. I'm not even though. After the time, we'll have been to the house. After the time, we'll go. My
28:12 My son, my son's in the quarter closed, my his door's going to be in another. So,
28:20 for consequence, the little, the kid, also, he was, you know, you've
28:24 told him, he was the Poo. Exactly, to what we said, that we're the Pue,
28:29 the king, the king, the, yeah, that was in the recamara of the little
28:33 two and the two and the thing, he was, so, there,
28:38 there was two entities in that that case, one, one, one,
28:40 with the and was he was, it was a a boy, it was a
28:45 little, and the recamara principal, of them of his wife, and his enemy, was the
28:49 man, in this case, the entity adult. That's, that was, and he molestable
28:54 the that he exactly, exactly. That's, that's very impactant stories,
28:58 I've heard, I've heard, not in spiritism, in possessions, that occurs, what of,
29:05 that, that physically a person is affected and then as the trance or
29:12 of the position, the the body is like regenerated to a certain
29:17 level, but that's super impactant I'm to know after what you
29:22 commentes in a practice of a people, people about this
29:29 thing of the same the time in a night you know, of this paranormal
29:34 or things that are that's that's something. Something something said
29:38 me commented. they said when you're doing a possession there's and I said then there's
29:44 a position I said a position in the person was a so entered a mante
29:50 for a San Lazzar and that that that you passer that that was
29:56 the the thing of the the spiritism for the thing of Tigger
30:02 and the thing of Poo as as I'm have pass this, pass this,
30:11 help me with this, what can't do you know, the process have been to do you have been a
30:18 one of a occasion was in a time, the line of the time of the this time
30:23 I'm gonna a car of a man, let's go to the visit, okay,
30:29 go, go, I'm accompanied the job, I'm a company to the time, and no,
30:34 alivian, you know, I'm gonna, I'm out of his house, or a balandal, a door
30:40 of those of those of oldies that's here's here the door in the window of
30:45 like, like, like, like, and my my friend and I get to
30:51 go, okay, perfect. Viener a man, a man, but he comes to
30:57 on the window, goodnaches, how's goodnaches? How are you? But right he's,
31:02 yeah, he said, yeah, he's, okay. And he's, what on, yeah?
31:08 He said, I'm saying that's doing, no, no, no, no, I'm going to oh, okay. I said,
31:13 my son my son my hitho, that's that I'm that you're going to be but I'm
31:21 my what my boyito said, he's called the abolito resola and I'm said,
31:26 a man pernoontit cana black, can't encorbedito the sir over the
31:32 door the same right he's right bacheco you're playing you know
31:37 why? wait I he met to his cell I'm in a photo
31:44 familiar and says he's he he's a ching the face his five years
31:49 so it's like it's like I mean I mean how you you know the explanation of you
32:00 don't know I'm gonna know you know you know for you to give you to
32:04 here you just I talked with some episodes with Brenda Minbella and this chick
32:13 lives in Guadalajara and a part of the house in the way of her and they were in a decoed to be a tinder of barrotes. The tienda of barrotes and I remember I was it, I'm a manor I remember, and it was to be it. But the abuelo fellacy and it was of these colonies in those in those of all.
32:30 Then the mom comes to talk to us that is that is apparently the abelow and they're asking how. And says, is that you have been various providers. that they're here.
32:42 I'm occupied to the don't know I'm not even though and the provider normally
32:46 usually and they're when they're when they're doing a man of a person of
32:52 proportions great with a face, that's sitting down of the car
32:58 that says they're saying there's there and there's and the second I'll
33:02 go and nobody didn't and my father. So, also There's a house in the center
33:11 during, yeah, that house there's a house there no exist, but during many years,
33:15 friends of this family and when they'd to be in a person a person calva
33:21 with bigote very very sonriently and not was about. And then they said to the person
33:30 like, well, then I'm come for X person and the person calma and just
33:36 just like just wait a time, and all a minute five, 10 get a
33:42 person that was the because I'm in the case, hey, yeah, what bad
33:45 the old, your father, your brother, this person
33:48 with this description me and I did it and they were the house
33:52 the and they they were a photo is he he's he's
33:56 he's he's he's he's and he was that's is very
34:00 impactant because like the the that you the fact that the fact
34:06 that's it's is super impactant the of this house of the center
34:11 is that occurred for seven years and he passed on a 50 people.
34:15 And all they're like the very much the family, no? If he
34:20 came to he received you, he received a person. So it is impressive how
34:26 they're still these families that that are the
34:30 environment but no he's something that's totally strange.
34:37 Exactly. I think fantastic if if it you know what I'm
34:40 the bad. I don't you can't tell to any of because the sceptic
34:43 you know, the sceptic, the he he he doesn't he, and you know, and you
34:51 and you enter's in a thing of a kind of that's many,
34:55 I've heard of the time of the trailerers I've people, I'm
35:01 people, that's they're in the time of the trailer and
35:03 they're very very in the carreterer in the parlor in the parlority. I mean, I remember when I was in that 20 years,
35:14 that we went to a Guadalajara in an o'clock. Me took on Matewala. At the altar of Matewala, there was a parader.
35:21 Yeah. I was the bus and we were all the selection of New York, all the minor, infantia minor, and the major.
35:29 We were in rejecto A and And the and at the mountain of
35:37 we're going to the chauffer putting music of cadet and the
35:41 voyage is to goz and we know the the chauffeur here see
35:47 there's there are like how are the women know
35:52 so one has one has the image no I
35:56 know a so are so for that is what they're what they're what they can be
36:05 just in that part after the parade of Matihuahua okay and we we're going to see some
36:16 a ball of a ball of you've seen with your yes so we've we've been two
36:21 two companions and I sated you of the center and companions in every
36:25 together on with with on and we we're and we
36:29 look but very great in the ball of the fire and advancing. See? In movement. So, like, no,
36:42 I mean, is a woman. A lot of you were the ball of a fire approximately? If you were very
36:48 retired, maybe to be 200 meters. I was very great, but it was very long. Yeah,
36:53 so, so, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
36:55 yeah, so, so, so, that's, so, we did, and,
37:01 and, and, and, and, the time , if I'm a part of the
37:07 brusas me said are the mules of the fire they're like the rancho
37:11 the legend of New Leon a lot of the year and said I'm and I'm
37:16 about the things and I said that's that I said that I'm this is a
37:21 person so they move in fire in fire in fire in a ball of
37:30 the ball of the fire the ball of the past so yeah much
37:33 time but if you'd have to be that that ball of the of the how you think you
37:38 had made to more or less so you know, it's that I'm going to be a
37:43 distance if it's however not it was like two meters maybe
37:48 maybe maybe a two meters a distance but I'm
37:52 I'm I'm the and the radiation of the the
37:57 fire so so yeah yeah yeah like like
38:01 literally is a a yeah exactly exactly Okay. And so, the color?
38:07 Rojo. Or so, rojo at center and orange around. So, total like if a fire
38:12 preended, so perfect. So, the reds and azules and yeah, no, no. So,
38:17 orange and rojo, rojo, orange. Okay. This is the part of the blackusca,
38:21 of that also when it's see, it's, be like, like, so
38:24 sort of a certain, or so the naranha. I think, I think, I think, I don't
38:29 not was not seen the the black because it was to I was a little distance. But if it was a
38:34 rojo very incandescent, so it was very strong, very vivid. Yeah. And how was it?
38:40 Like, for brinkos of a form like if it. A wonder. Like a a wonder. Uh-huh.
38:45 So, not it was not too a very rapid velocity. Uh-huh. But in what we passed
38:49 for that part or the project this of the carterer, no, no it was a no, it was
38:54 so it. So, so it was so it. So, and it no, no,
38:59 no, no, see you the They were to learn where they were at the When they were When they were the most So it was around
39:04 When I was No No, the camera He was completely Oh, perfect Exactly with the climate and
39:10 but if no no see yeah And with the music obviously we're trying there's a level high and if no,
39:16 we're making not we couldn't even that we're the chauffeur of the car the car the auto bus
39:22 this part and us and you did you did you get to get to something to
39:26 something? No, he mentioned that as it was how they were in exactly. He me he said,
39:34 and the rest of the rancho final of the question of the fire in the corner, that's the thing you, that's for you,
39:41 that's for you, that's a other, that's a more, that's a other podcast could be interesting
39:46 for not not sell the term of the yoruba. But, but, but he, he said,
39:50 he said, he said, he brought to the world, or so, the universe, I'm coming to,
39:55 that's, that she, that's even a woman, a girl, a It came to the piece and totally
40:02 desgarraged like if you were his robes you know we're going to have to be a lot of
40:09 but we're going to let's get into the Yurova there's a day of there's a despojo to let's a chas
40:18 I was of Yemaya the I'ma actually of Yer actually the saints are more know
40:24 are Shun Changu and other other other more I was, I was I, I was Yorahua, the reina of the mother of the mar, and I, my virgin was the carri of the copper. I had a virgin of the caria of the co-de-a, that was the
40:41 was that I represented Yamaha. And, well, I mean, all this had, to what I would say, to my niche in the which I made my, my petitions, my orations, all what it's all what is for the tobacco, the liquor, all for the
40:57 offerings, which is the word correct, the offrendas. For the Urichas? Exactly. The rich,
41:03 exactly. And, I go, with it, I'll get to the story, that's the
41:09 more the company of the that I have to talk to, this story,
41:13 me contact a one a friend of my my my
41:20 husband that me says me a this with the
41:26 pap of my husband is in the interdepend and the
41:31 year nine days in therapy we know they're
41:37 an an and they and if fall the
41:40 he not not because the life that he
41:42 was because I I did okay and so
41:47 okay and so what we do what we
41:50 you know, what you want to do you okay pass this me says he says talk with the
42:01 chau do you do that to tell you he's that he he went for you
42:08 come in for me that they come with me okay I'm I'm
42:14 I'm tell me tell me what what so he was this
42:18 a bacteria that he went to in the cell in
42:21 the Lanoaccio The sir And he said And he He went
42:29 The Repententine The Sir He said We said We'd We've got To my
42:33 Papa In Laoka Did say Nothing We've We've They've They've been
42:39 The Ciciatric That's Yeah for the Topochico We We
42:42 We've In an Ambulance With Temperature The The Sir
42:48 Temperature Enorm So Okay And okay me I'm a attention
42:56 to that I'm talking I'm talking about to help you're
43:00 okay and we get to the clinic of the IMS the iPhone to
43:04 yeah I attended okay me I'm I'm to look
43:12 I want to you know you I'm I'm I'm I'm
43:16 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm that's I do it
43:22 but I'm to get me to Then, I could say,
43:26 that my head said, it's a bad but not not are a
43:28 malo. Okay. The pre pretext sir, go to her back, pap,
43:35 pap, pap, pap, pap pap, me said okay, tell that he come. Okay,
43:43 onse at the night in your house, take belaeras, bringance,
43:49 uh, uh, uh, herbs for the oration. Okay. The man,
44:00 he said, I don't know I want to be to see him. I don't know. A lot of 11, 19. 10.5. Let's go.
44:13 Entremus in a pharmacy. Agarra all the hours. I'll try here. And as he, he'll be entering. Auntier of him. And he'll he'll be. Is that my my tibu. I go.
44:27 no, Salvalo. You're not like, you're doing a man, pardon, husband of the
44:38 brother, of his wife to the house to the house of the and we're and he said,
44:44 my friend what we do we're that you that your father is a morning
44:49 of therapy intiv so your papa will be but in a risk
44:57 your papa could have to have been sequels. It could be
45:00 to be that he is put to he's posted or not going to he's been postrad only sitting, and he's not more.
45:26 Like zombie? He's a very young. I want to be here. He's here. I'm here. Tome's the man. What I'm going to pass on the next.
45:33 We'll start the oration. You can feel that they they're going, that they
45:39 move, they're they're the back, the back, the back, not they
45:44 don't get. For favor. And you less, he's your popa.
45:51 No do you do you do you do you do you do marce
45:56 do do you do hours going to be here another
46:00 more two hours And you'll go I continue I'm going to I'm going to
46:07 start to work with Yoruba and then I'll do you do you so I'm
46:17 dark, well, I'm too to talk the door really, so to talk the operation
46:27 the oration the relation and the movements the the gulfes in the side of
46:31 the rugs to rugs, to me raguos in the hands, no the same, like that's like that's
46:37 like, that's like the in the hand in the hand, so you know, and it's
46:41 not to mark, not the but if the life, like, like, you know,
46:45 so you're like, you know, so like, yeah, you know, so, so,
46:48 and then, me, me, even, the way, the way, the, those,
46:54 holdones, to be, so, a, of the cabel of the , and he's
46:58 very, he was a much with him, he was much with he's termina me
47:04 says lavence the hand's the face the hand's the okay
47:08 me I'm I'm let me I'm had I had like I was
47:14 I was so I know those were exactly exactly me
47:19 I'm the and what I'm so I'm so I'm so
47:23 see cart and I don't me I'm no I'm no
47:27 I'm no I'm markers. My friend I brought one here in the in the
47:33 in the coel and I think I'm a little wick, let's get something,
47:40 let's get a to do this to do this to him he's said he said he's going to disappear
47:48 me, like you want to put to get me to be to but he
47:51 in the time of the hands I'm a little a
47:55 little I'm like I'm like, I'm like, the way. So, the way. So, we're going.
48:03 And we're a friend of, my friend, me, he said, that in the morning, he, well,
48:11 he, he, he, he's, he's he's, he's, like,
48:15 there, the day of the , of the, the, , the, and that's,
48:18 he he's, he's, he said, and he's, let's, let's, let's,
48:24 that, that, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's,
48:26 in your house and all this for that's a little to be tired to be here all the days okay and if she's he's
48:32 he was at the eight was that the morning he marked the sir to his mom
48:42 he said he says your mom how is all all right all right all all right
48:51 you're to be your papa you're to come to come to be okay
48:58 they're immediately to the clinic They came and said that's the young
49:05 they've been in therapy intentsiva or the other people in the car in the cell
49:12 of the revision that might be so that's like in the piece he said that he's like
49:18 he was not they were not they're like that I'm in that moment no
49:24 repuously reposted the and he he said the doctor uh your
49:28 papa can you can't have to that reactioned very rapid. For
49:35 that they can know that if something he says,
49:38 he he says he's memory, movement, movement, or what
49:42 that's something. He said, he's he's he's he he,
49:48 he, he he, he after of what he he said
49:54 he he's he's he he's he was a
49:57 night a total of when he took a
50:01 therapy insensitive. He was he said he's he said, nothing of, yeah,
50:08 he's been really, very, very, very very very very
50:10 after. After this, we're a woman, in the, in the oration
50:17 that night said, he said, he said, he said, he's, he'll be sure,
50:22 sure he's probably, more ahead, your papa, he's, a day will
50:26 fall to not accept, not, not not not the past. You're going to
50:33 when I think in the car in the in the in problems of the health and they're
50:41 to be in you're going to be who's the polo-o-o-o-o- the devil who does that
50:49 he did you know to do? But if you're going to you're going to be a zombie
50:58 there if no way to docket to do you do you do you do
51:02 you're Vivo? Hello, thanks to God, that you gave to the time that has been a
51:09 last time. VIII. 5 years. Dural the Lord. In the wife, he said
51:18 that he went to gozando his life that he could be not able to do
51:23 the time and the lack of time. And if me he said, when the
51:27 man came in a camera very very very It's very strong for a
51:31 thing of internal if a he's that he he took that he
51:39 did he they're they're they're they they're to say he's
51:44 for his name that I want to let's the name salval no
51:53 no no there was no no there wasn't there
51:57 he's in the back he's saying he's in the they said
52:02 it's they were a pachiko salamelo. So, so I'm going from there to the clinic. Me up a while
52:11 a day only more and he fellacy and he said but it was like that's time to give him
52:19 to give him he was a bad for him I said it could be it
52:26 after this that he that's this is this I said this I'm I'm
52:32 madina said madina I said. After the time, I said, I said, no, I don't
52:44 know, no, no, I waske, me took to be one of the, of the, I, in that case, the religion that we've we said, and he said, you know, the number of Ruth?
52:56 Yeah. Pasoled. And he said, yeah, they're to look, but so they're looking. You know, I'm just to ask, but I'm just
53:04 to get, Pachel. And so, it. After this, I mean was very
53:11 very of the other and this, I'm in other things more than
53:17 those, I'm not so not so it's very very very the feeling
53:20 to be a idea that said, okay, it's okay, I'm
53:26 I have to pay one this, so I, so, so are favors
53:30 that are they need to give and I said, and I did, and
53:37 and things of what's what I'm going to happen to what I'm going to normal
53:41 that you don't know that you're without no no matter or so not the
53:47 spiritism it's no no a single so so this is
53:53 not normal this not this is like to say to the I'm
54:00 to the person I'm very much that part of the sir that's a
54:04 piece very so I'm I say, I always I've said, to give
54:11 an help. I agree with some I'm going to have done too, so I'm very much in
54:18 him too for so, like, God, God, God, that's the I was
54:23 always I said, and I said, when I said, I said, I'm, I'm,
54:28 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm to say, I'm, you know,
54:33 you know, you know, you know, you're not, you're, you know, to do, the same.
54:36 Me, it's a help, I do. I do. I don't do anything I'm doing the
54:43 I'm going to the man, I'm very very this part of the man. Me said,
54:47 you're going to do you do you do that to say to say, I'm okay but how
54:54 you're you're going to go to a rio to to a
55:04 attention at all around when pass this. It was a time of winter. Okay? I'm I'm my
55:15 my offrend, my total, all the river. It was a very large. 3 meters
55:20 of the inch, to the center. That's that's the current is what is the offender,
55:26 no. It was a pesado. It was a ball of, of, not concrete, but
55:32 so, lodo, pesado, so it was that was my santo and me you're going to
55:39 do you do you do you do you're but attention at the around for you
55:46 know you take you get you go and I'm accompanied she's she gets to a
55:53 coast of the rio and all I'm my robes blackas me
55:59 put in a boxer I'm I'm I do this, I'maneo, and I see a person, a woman, at the front, a vestal black and a garretto
56:11 black. Blanco. Blanco, radiant. And it was a day. See, I see, like, I said, I'm like, yeah. So, I see, like, I said, what I'm, you, so,
56:26 what I did, so, what I did, so, what I did, so, what I did, but I'm not, because I did me, because I did, I, I did I did well, I said the people
56:36 and the people and it's it's the that's the thing, that's
56:41 I know of the after I know after the after the and I know
56:47 to say and then to do not to do I've to be very common
56:55 to that's very common to do that I'm that I'm that I
56:59 take in to be to be a religion I mean, I mean interested. I don't want. Because I've lived.
57:10 Yeah, I'm living. I go. It was very very strong in some moment. It was something that I didn't expect. That you said, I want to know but you know's much.
57:21 And it was a theme after with with the church Catholic, this is what I I'm going to. What I'm to talk.
57:29 It's, you you've done. Yes, yes, yes. And me said, it's normal. before you're
57:35 not you know you know when you're going to let's with you know what you know what you
57:41 do you know there's there are there's that's also there's there's that you
57:47 get to where you get to you're to get to the other okay
57:51 and so that that so that we're we
57:57 with the yuruba with these questions of the yuruba okay
58:02 that despojo of the santo there was a moment in the he
58:06 was a the so to be to be a thing because I
58:15 have seen I've heard of all right to have people that they
58:19 have that they're that they're not a man to be
58:25 they're going to do to do this is more much it's
58:30 very so it's so I'm bavalao so like, like,
58:34 right at the reality, the collars, the yeah, the prussas exactly, I mean,
58:39 I'm more representatio with that. In my case, no. In my case,
58:43 no, in my case, no, representative was what is the pald or the casulita with the
58:50 santo, the barrow. Yeah. It was what I represented and the virgin
58:56 of creed of the churba in this yeah, pardon. Yeah. It was it,
59:00 and you, in my I remember, I had what was my santo, for the offrend of what is the pure, the liquor, you know,
59:08 the offer you put in, what you put in there to be to pay, and nothing more.
59:13 And that that's, that's, the despojo, why was the depojo? Because that had to
59:18 that's been to get, well, your compromise with the religion. So, saliret.
59:27 It was your form to do. Exactly. So, I, I don't, I,
59:31 you, to God. So, and me they're so, you're doing this for you
59:38 cut the lasos and do you get your life without to your santo. That that
59:44 that's that's you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're
59:49 like you never had been there. Exactly. Exactly. So, what would
59:53 have happened? No you know what would have been so that's
59:56 that of the despoho? In the in the actually much people
01:00:00 use his pulsars without know of there's people that they're people who
01:00:07 have passed the religion in your your purse your collars, and do you sacrifice
01:00:15 animals I don't it's you know, you know, more things that I have been
01:00:23 I've been a lot of and not quite anyone was used and it was very selective
01:00:28 to the people that was the road of of Monterey, they're in sectors very good
01:00:34 that we're we're who are people who are people who would have what had been to
01:00:42 do you do you see, there's the counter you see the the santa in one
01:00:51 occasion me passed I'm in a college to a podaka and there
01:00:57 and I'm a man me, we're to a a place. Where he said? I said, we're going to see. You go, go to see me.
01:01:07 I'm going to go to be. Manage, manage, manage, manage. I'm, manage. I'm there. I'm going to be there. That's where the coroneriality, that's the other way. That's the pod.
01:01:17 I'm going to be. We got to come back. We got to come back. A lot of many cases with many crosses. The two years before me. I said, sit here.
01:01:28 What are going to do? I said, I said, a friend. No, it was a, no,
01:01:33 no, it was like that's, it's like, that's like, we're in the time,
01:01:38 so, come here, come here. No, I'm here so- and you, and I said,
01:01:43 okay. We're, we're, we're sitting there, with the other, it's,
01:01:49 it's, it's to be able, in attend, me, pass us, pass-le, sit there
01:01:55 here, the signora in me, the senior, her angelistic, people
01:02:00 that's a total black, no? And me said, my recivient
01:02:06 was, what you do you're in the contra? You know, he said, about it
01:02:15 after that's eight years after that's, I mean, you know, you know, after eight years
01:02:21 after? So, I'm did the depojo, he's, passed on the five
01:02:26 years, the Okay. Okay. And so, like, I go, I don't know why. I'm from here. I'm from there's da poitaka. Managed up here. Entree,
01:02:39 I'll wait three hours. No, I say, I'm going. Me, he says, you're still trying what you, according you let's see. So, and I said,
01:02:52 what? You, santo? That's never, you're the part mala. There was the yoruba like, I said,
01:03:02 I said, I'm a lot. what I did in the in the platy that I'm we're talking to talk about
01:03:10 to talk about with the angelologist with the angelologist with the angelist with the angelist we started my friend was she was on
01:03:17 costado she said nothing we're starting we're starting we're talking we're talking the time
01:03:25 of the of her we're we're going to let's thank we're just we're
01:03:33 we're saying Pacheco of what they they were I said I said what we about what I
01:03:42 did I'm not so I'm here I'm trying but I'm talking about this part and says
01:03:48 you're talking you're very enogated your your car was like very encabronados so like
01:03:54 and I had in an idiom that not they were not they're not they're
01:04:01 I'm I'm I'm you know you're you're you're I mean,
01:04:07 less. They were very very and you know in an eye,
01:04:11 and you put it like in attack. You know the not you like you
01:04:19 talking? In the discussion that you took you in the part of you
01:04:24 remember you you know, you know, you know, we're we're
01:04:30 we're not going to our point. Like if you did you like
01:04:33 the the thing of the Yuro in the moment with the the
01:04:36 father equal. So okay but Here you go the because
01:04:40 I don't have a point of this things about the correct or the incorrect or the incorrect.
01:04:48 I've been, I've been curiousing and curiousing very, and I'm revisiting,
01:04:56 would be the word more correct. So I've seen patrons. And there's
01:05:01 there's a pattern in around the memory that not I've said here,
01:05:04 but I'm the question. The doubt in this theme
01:05:07 is, I know the sensation of record the argument, you know, the argument that you
01:05:13 did you did, or it's the sensation? No, she was that I said,
01:05:19 was a malo, what I had was that I was a that I
01:05:24 had been served. Yes. She, says, you you know, you're
01:05:29 to be to be to and he and it and it's refer to that as a
01:05:32 a saint or like a other other thing like that for her for her the Yoruba
01:05:37 was obscure demoniac obscuro oh boy let us let me this Yoruba the Santa
01:05:44 Morte and the yeah like it was over the same of the two
01:05:48 yeah I'm the time of the death there's there's there's
01:05:53 I'm not no I'm there's I'm much respect but I'm I'm much
01:05:59 a yoruba in a a place that not correspond to my experience
01:06:02 and the form of to defend exactly I'm not but I'm to know to know
01:06:10 so that's about the know what to know that's what you know I'm
01:06:16 I'm I'm I'm I'm what you're what's what's what's
01:06:20 that's right right is very she yeah yeah yeah
01:06:24 exactly but but but but I'm he really not
01:06:29 a charlatan until the people who had to give a person in a corner you're going to know, you're
01:06:37 going to say someone. I was saying, someone who's someone who's someone who was not a popular,
01:06:44 only it was only were for the fendidigna for where you get to get a information.
01:06:48 So, so when you know that's because he said because he said someone who was
01:06:54 the movie, the movie, he's his own, the same the same Bavalaos they call sanchocheros, no?
01:07:01 And that are these people who are not in the also. Also, also, I'm not like a critic,
01:07:08 it's like a description, because me has talked, I've lived, that between people that they're called
01:07:13 Babalaos, as there's, as a institution that it has a, no, no, no, there's a
01:07:19 form of determine exactly if Cilio is or not it, they're totally in disagreement
01:07:23 on certain different points important. And both, I mean has to call people that in both arguments
01:07:30 were in Cuba did you do you think there's there's a question. I don't he
01:07:37 want to be a intermeticism those processes then not they're not about the processos
01:07:43 but they're in Cuba but even at the moment of the practice they don't determine
01:07:49 that the other is in the incorrect in the exactly so then to
01:07:53 the day to day to say there's a confusion for this
01:07:55 that's so great and so rapid, but if if you I'm in the time that you
01:08:01 were in the time you're because you're like a person fidelined because not it was popularized and that
01:08:06 way. There's actually there are there's that they can count to the respect to Cuba
01:08:12 with the religion. Okay. No let me I respect that part in that
01:08:17 that if want an eruditeism your reason, their armetism, what is the
01:08:22 reason of the armetism? What is the reason to abuse of the necessity of the people, you, you want to be able to be allowed, you're going to
01:08:32 talk a door, here you're doing. And I've commented for the experience of a person of a he said, me cobrown much money.
01:08:45 All my family is a mo'alal and me coererererone and one of the and they'd, and they'd, and me they'd, and me
01:08:52 they'd, and me the Cubans in Cuba. If you know, you know, they're not going to get them but we're doing.
01:09:00 But yeah we're many of money to get them. That's not. So, that's you know,
01:09:08 like here here's Monterey, there's you, that's you, that's about
01:09:13 not-a-balled, not-credited, but if with an experience that you say, he will
01:09:19 be going to be going to be to take, or he will be to be
01:09:21 to tend without a a way it can be able to
01:09:24 do people people that they're not that I know
01:09:28 and I'm not a so the armentism in relation to that they not
01:09:34 they're not so okay okay uh a doubt
01:09:39 and and this is for how you live for so
01:09:43 my question as you did you did I
01:09:47 did you I did one At the day of I don't see if still still still
01:09:53 in the way of not in the practice but I'm saying in the practice real
01:10:02 when you are these these exercises to the I feel that no there's a type of
01:10:10 a filter moral of the good and it's not both both questions
01:10:14 are like a movement of the people are the
01:10:17 people are of this optica. I'm I'm doing I'm I'm okay.
01:10:22 He said he's a paper like a person who's like a person and their necessity
01:10:29 can't be a favor of a person but if it but if he's he's
01:10:34 and it's it's it applies so it's and at final you know we're
01:10:40 going to let's the same the necessity of the person is the I'm
01:10:44 the I'm the I I've always been this, of this creencia.
01:10:49 If I want to help, I'm doing the people who are doing this. You don't
01:10:54 talk to talk about and say, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm not we're trying,
01:11:00 we're we're just, we're to get a problem, to find out to get to be done
01:11:07 to be the person, that's a problem, because the malddda exists, and the
01:11:14 things good are to get the or the help that they can do you
01:11:19 can't do you. And it's what the people sometimes sometimes it's not that's not
01:11:24 normal. That's not normal. That's not normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:11:30 there's a good, yeah, that's not that you know, to put out of your
01:11:35 to the new, things that's your land and you're normal. So,
01:11:40 so are things that the people do you do this for this or for maldard. To damage.
01:11:47 Exactly. That's what what you to get to get to get a people and can't talk about with people who
01:11:54 not do you know or that or that's a necessity of the person to get a money. Okay.
01:12:01 This, only in your experience and only if you've been that you topaste with someone
01:12:06 that you did you say this person or not for his creencers but for his
01:12:11 person is a woman or man malvado? Where I when I took to be
01:12:19 a person I'm talking about like the group of people who was that when I took the
01:12:24 tambour no after the time me took a person that me said
01:12:32 oh yeah my my my and so like I said it's
01:12:36 one with various colors I say checkate because
01:12:39 that that not that's not I'm in the actual
01:12:43 that are are co galleers, and are many collars, that's
01:12:46 when you have a level more than the year of the yoruba. So, I said,
01:12:51 no, me said, no, me cobrowed a lot of them. They said, no, I said, no,
01:12:58 no, no. What, what, what, I mean, to say, I mean,
01:13:01 to understand, because you're, every, every, every day, in the actuality, in the
01:13:07 the actuality, is a same, is a son, uh, and and those They can't
01:13:11 who has a level more high in the Yoruba Bavalaos
01:13:16 yeah more a higher in that in that scale and not can
01:13:21 try it a person that's being starting on this he
01:13:26 said I'm so they're a money they're on this
01:13:29 post and this posturita and I have my my
01:13:32 my my son the okay but but me
01:13:38 says a past a two months no, Pacheca, no Pacheca, no Pugh. I'm, because
01:13:42 is that my sacrifice a paroma in my head to be in the same, and I couldn't be able to be able to be
01:13:53 to be in a part of the rito. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm going to do. So, that's,
01:13:58 that's, that's, I don't understand that part. Me, I said, I didn't
01:14:02 that part, I said, no, I said, is that, I said, I said, it's the
01:14:09 point to surprise when when he he's surprised he wanted to surprise him
01:14:16 with the sunnered with the anger, you know, yeah, like he'll do you know,
01:14:21 I'm gonna like, I'm, so in a fraud and that so, she spanto, yeah,
01:14:27 he, he's, he's, he, did he, did you, did you, did you,
01:14:30 did you, did you, did you, I, did, I mean, was, I'm,
01:14:36 and you, yeah, and I, yeah, because in the case of he, for what
01:14:39 you say, no, no, not's not, no, he's not he said,
01:14:45 exactly. So, so, to know, so it's for having out of I've got,
01:14:51 I mean, I can, have to review, I mean, I'm like, I'm
01:14:55 like, I'm, like, I'm, I'm going, I'm going, to be that's,
01:14:58 but I'm when you know, when you're as, as, in a, so,
01:15:03 then just they're, they're what is, they're, they're things, here's what is that
01:15:09 to enter in a santo I mean there's a I can't say I'm you can't say directly
01:15:14 because the idea not is about the sort of the thing in the thing I'm yeah
01:15:19 so they're an offrendas were an they're not not of accessories in the cooed
01:15:25 but if the having the the day day the day
01:15:29 the the the the that that so me to be
01:15:33 something to be and you You know, so, and he's not. So, like,
01:15:39 like, you know, so on this, no more. Perfect. It was superficial and significated. Exactly. Okay, okay.
01:15:46 So, okay. That's interesting. It's super interesting. No, no, I've been opportunity because with the
01:15:51 people that was a platicado was a so much different. Yes, so.
01:15:56 So, so. So, so, so I'm, so it's the thing, is the
01:16:01 thing, is a gulf, the, the word is very very It's a very strong. For me, it's
01:16:06 religion Yoruba. Okay. Yeah, but the santaia comes from this combination Cuban when
01:16:11 they're in the Catholicism, exactly. The thing of that a saint, of the Catholic,
01:16:19 for the color, for the people of color, it's a adopt as part of him,
01:16:25 that's the story of Yuruba, right? But, but if I really, I don't feel that
01:16:31 I'm a man, because the sentery for me is Fertes. For me, it's more
01:16:35 more more of the more of the personal. The palo. In his moment, I don't consider
01:16:42 a obscure the Yuruba. It was like that just practicabas a religion. Yeah. Orations.
01:16:50 At the day of you, you know, you're not. No. No, no. At the paro,
01:16:54 you consider you a obscure to the day of? Yes. Yeah. Apart of the Yoruba,
01:16:59 the palo, what other is, because I think that there are various
01:17:02 that's the voodoo or hudu that they call them what other what are that
01:17:06 there's in the personal only to the Yoruba I think the the
01:17:12 the moment of the question to the family there there there there
01:17:18 devotes to the not much so yeah I mean I mean so I
01:17:23 so so that so so we're so so we we're we're
01:17:26 we're about this time this time of the family
01:17:31 in there's a there's a there's a a question more that's a I'm going to I'm sure you
01:17:40 I'm sure every one of the every person is who's going to get to get that's going to every one of every time
01:17:48 that's a question that this is actually that's made you to know, it's made just to know just the
01:17:54 things that the and with the people who are they're not, so are things that are
01:18:02 not, that are not going to occurrences or propagandas this, Be, you know, well, in this,
01:18:07 in this, this, this form of to get a there's a mind that's that you know, more than the
01:18:14 aesthetic, that's the aesthetic, was to be to the tethric that is, that's people who
01:18:21 like the gothic, that in an initial generate an impact, but then it's
01:18:25 a good, it has been a good, it's a aesthetic, is a a skeleton, so is a
01:18:31 Skeleto that in occasions I try the guadana and in occasions they're in other type of things and it's a could say
01:18:37 an archetype a figure that's always it's always with the final of the life, the final of a
01:18:42 final of a connotation if it's not it's lucubb well but but more the other
01:18:48 the stories that I've heard of people that have created and have practiced normally
01:18:56 are tether normally are tettricas and a person me contact and me he says, no, in my
01:19:02 my vivance no, in my experience, and I'm it's tetic, it's a summante tetrica. I said, no,
01:19:09 I know, I know, I, said, me has, I used to, in X, something, and X, and X,
01:19:12 and X, and X, cause, for, like, I'm, I'm going to do this type of
01:19:18 of offrendas, and then just, I'm just, I'm just, and then just what you're you're,
01:19:25 you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, is that,
01:19:26 you, like a spirit a venative to you do you but I'm doing the
01:19:34 I'm going to you're in the time of the time in the I'm you know this is this is the
01:19:39 I'm not made to I'm to investigate to investigate has been just not more
01:19:48 you know as I'm like you're being so it's for there also
01:19:50 so you know you you're you you the I'm
01:19:55 me but let me give me I want a an
01:19:58 an an to do go more than the ambition of the
01:20:04 people is more if the people are very ambitious you're going to
01:20:08 get in the posse or very well so my family
01:20:13 I've I've I'm my family that are three four are devoted
01:20:19 to the santa death I'm I'm one one one
01:20:23 does not very so so so for what so it's
01:20:28 my first like that's like, a question. Logica, rapid.
01:20:33 Exactly. I have a other I'm more to tell you know, I'm more than I
01:20:40 know of experience of her. His papa, devoted to the death. Very devout
01:20:49 to the business. It was a matter. It was like the little my name
01:20:54 black and my business was growing and I and I said, very
01:20:59 well. But your daughter, your daughter, she's the mother, she's
01:21:05 always, you know, not you don't you like that's like that's a consequence,
01:21:12 you live always a that's a , that the hip, the rinion, that's the
01:21:19 little, that's the very good, I'm very good, but you don't you
01:21:24 don't you don't like that you're like, and to you
01:21:31 to you, you've put to think in the ma'amachica. I'm Y,
01:21:38 I'm yelando that's a consequence of the cobrough? Not you don't you're to be
01:21:45 but they're going to make sure for the that's what you're doing that is much
01:21:48 so, so I'm so the practice. In one a occasion where I live
01:21:54 actually this property I've been in three years in this house
01:22:01 to I'm to appear cabos cabos black blackos in the
01:22:11 bathroom in the cell in the room in the recamara principal in the
01:22:15 recamara secondary and it's normal so you know not in women
01:22:22 with so there no there no there there there
01:22:26 there there and there all all time and again. The
01:22:32 ban. Oh, jove the man. Who can get to the house? I'm going to get to the house. Yeah. Okay. He said, I'm going to be this. Oh, well, I've got
01:22:47 the call. In the door of the recamara. No. Not. Not they were, like, they're like they're going to be. The night. See?
01:22:57 And I said, this is not the next day. The message you, you can't mark? Yes. I mean, and me said,
01:23:06 is the little that's the that's a new that's a occupant to a
01:23:44 or you're you're you're saying a help I'm going to not going to be going to
01:23:51 you're going to you're going to go to I'm going to get to not me to not me not
01:23:58 I'm going to get me and the year this this year for the year of February
01:24:05 March or other the cabels in the lav of two three cabos,
01:24:12 no hilados, or separated, very large in the cabellos. No, that no. Barri, let me go, let me give
01:24:23 a cat in the house. Not a little, but if yeah, a cat. I'll open the door,
01:24:31 me get running, like, like, I'm down the that's in my house. And he's
01:24:36 he goes to and all this and the and the and the my friend, the gats, the animals to help them
01:24:43 to give to the guys are in the I don't know that you. I'm not to know how much the cat, but magically the
01:24:50 head they're not not really, I'm not so I'm not not so I'm I'm doing for that's the cat who gave to me
01:24:57 house. Not that not really, but it's like the cat, get it to get them to your
01:25:03 house? No, so not so not so not you're to have to exactly. Exactly.
01:25:08 So, right. So, right. So, to eat the cat that I'm in my house of my house of my mom and all this,
01:25:13 so you need to be to care of the pants and all this. I mean, but if that's why that's why. So, I think,
01:25:21 I think, I don't want, of that we pass up, no me interest, and I'm,
01:25:30 and I'm shorted for any lastos for that doesn't any of that part. I'm
01:25:35 I am of the person that pass for a busto of the death and I prefer you
01:25:41 do you do that yeah, so, yeah, tell me why you, I don't
01:25:46 I want to use the word rechase, I'm looking like a kind of the wayhation
01:25:52 of this figure and this entity because? There's been many things,
01:25:57 that certainly we've gone to more more more in other
01:26:00 podcast but it has passed that it has to
01:26:03 that me I know to do what I I want to know I
01:26:09 know, I mean in things that I'm going to know that a remit immobilaryary in properties
01:26:14 that I've had been in the time to make it to make it to normal or so I've
01:26:18 succeeded to the the cases for things that have been I'm
01:26:23 I'm saying okay, it's people that's not a not bad no me no me
01:26:28 to make to make to to I don't want to make me that point. What happens
01:26:40 if no do I'm in the Yuluba were an offrendas never pedda like I'm not the
01:26:46 money to not too I don't know I want to do that my family no?
01:26:52 And nothing more I don't know how I'm not sure I know
01:26:57 but to tell to people that I know there's there's there
01:27:02 and there you to why you get to me it's
01:27:06 like the of the United and he's like this like this because you go to
01:27:11 this question and it's a question and it's a question not as a question there's a
01:27:19 question there people that says that they that's that there's there's no there
01:27:26 no, so for the word saying that's not the word is a
01:27:31 process habitual but not it's properly a figure I don't so
01:27:36 entity oscura that is the form in that they have been that's not a
01:27:41 property of the person, so it's so that's your really, does it do you know, that's
01:27:54 done you know, you know, things that things that don't know good with the murder. Example?
01:28:02 For example, the thing of, the time of, the time me felt the
01:28:11 the time I said, I'm going to the carcel. What did you do you do you
01:28:16 do you're in the carcel? We're going to the carcel to be in the child a good. So I
01:28:24 know, I'm in the fact of the fact of the fact of I do, me done
01:28:30 and no you know can't the first cobrado is your family or to
01:28:37 you? They're are so they're so they're we're we're
01:28:41 we're Okay. People in the Comentaries, family nocturnal because I know that in the family nocturna
01:28:48 there are many people that have in the child in the mother, the Santa Mwere.
01:28:55 Pongan us on the how you know this is interesting and I'll say, I'm very curious,
01:29:00 it's like that's things go inlaz and I see many going to many many times
01:29:06 there's the deception but it's the deception and the continue or the majoritario
01:29:10 are of this type. How do you, this, this question of the favor and not to do. It's a so, is distinct. How is? Let us a little bit of the idea.
01:29:21 Also, that other with the one that's not, you know, for the devil. Why? MEDAW. MEDA. MEDA.
01:29:33 I mean, I'm curious. I'm going to see it. And that's all the same, I'm glad that I was, when I had 20 years, 25 years, but I was. Because to know what I see, I feel, I perceive,
01:29:50 and I can't count to me around. It's important to that. And, I certainly, to the community has to be that. I see, I see, I see, I, see,
01:30:01 I'm a movement of things. No, I can say to my mom, because you're going to be be a joke, man, my house, no, my house, no, pats, no. As you comment about,
01:30:11 in question stories, I've many. Casas that I've lived. Casa
01:30:18 family. Trabah now that I've been to have in the house that
01:30:24 I've been in the house of the business? A very,
01:30:27 has a very has a question? I'm that's the that's the property
01:30:33 a house in Juarez. This house, I've my first visit to know the house, video, photographies,
01:30:45 to know the house, as one has to enter to see how is the property. I'm going to the property. I when I'm doing my videos, me when I'm the center when those plants, in the escalator of the one, yeah
01:30:59 in the first piece, no? And I'm going to revisit videos for to see what is bad or that's bad, what I'm a little, what I'm what I'm going. front of the house there was a
01:31:08 a kid a kid I think I think I'm going to hear of that's shushar
01:31:13 laments and I said not it's above and I hear a great
01:31:19 very very so in the videos and it was a
01:31:24 great that I was I I'm to I'm to
01:31:28 see that I see that's a little he's a
01:31:35 I saw the He was a little out of the He was a He was a He was a He was He was a
01:31:39 Curaah No In that In this moment My first My first My first Wolted
01:31:43 to the house I'm in the camera principal I'm I'm
01:31:48 I'm They're They're Moe Moe Movian A Moe
01:31:53 Moeb two three And I I'm There's here in the
01:32:00 house The Eke here The Coer here I Not So I
01:32:02 No valentiment I do I do it and I don't know it's normal
01:32:07 I'm I'm going to see a not going to go to do you know to find out the house
01:32:14 see the videos a minute a minute a hour I'm going to
01:32:18 the door to the door of cameras never no no
01:32:23 there no there was there so I'm so
01:32:26 I'm I'm to the car and I start
01:32:29 the the As you comment about, I, one visit. And I took three more The client's.
01:32:37 We got to the house, we'll get to the property, Baja, the escalary me says, Joven,
01:32:46 the house feels very bad a vibrator. It's new ramoelada. No, know what what's the
01:32:52 thing you know, I'm I'm, I'm know, you know, I'm referring. He said,
01:32:57 I'm to the more of that they were, no, more there
01:33:04 in the house if she's someone in the house and more okay I go to
01:33:11 someone that's she said he said he said no I said I said
01:33:17 one I said this time this time this time okay no we pass
01:33:22 we all we're all the man and I know so
01:33:25 I'm sobby it's very so okay perfect a day,
01:33:32 a second visit a the sir and the sir and the they're to the porch I'm
01:33:39 to put the to the door to the house and I'm in the front of the house
01:33:43 and me is the sir you know you know no I'm I'm
01:33:49 I'm so I'm there is that there is there
01:33:53 is I'm I'm much and man, and vibra with this man,
01:34:02 and I'm sorry when there nothing, not even like, so like that's like, I said, okay,
01:34:08 he said, no, we're going to go ahead of the vendas. Let's know to the vendas that's,
01:34:15 that's all the for God that's, for God, that's all right to be, that's the man,
01:34:21 to be a sure, to be there to be. Segment, a party a young, 21 years. Entran in the
01:34:32 house, the same way, I don't know, I saw you, nothing. We've got, and we're doing, and I guess the house. But,
01:34:45 I see, I'm trying to the house. It's the word of it. She seems that we're not we're just. I'm just, we're just only, we say, if I like, no matter.
01:34:56 No, I'm putting attention to things that no exist. I like the house. Okay. The house they're they're
01:35:02 they're they're they're they're in them they're in the house. I don't
01:35:10 say you so, how it's possible that I heard the first client sentio
01:35:17 and the second saw and the third sentio but he said
01:35:22 the house is me there. There are people I've noticed that
01:35:25 people like have in those that not this reaction.
01:35:30 And there are many in cases in the in the case in a realtor and they're
01:35:37 a realtor and it never was absolutely nothing. But the previous and the previous is
01:35:44 a a pesidia no. So, I'm what good that you do you
01:35:49 do this revisions of the different. It's interesting, like, when you're when you're when you're
01:35:56 being in a place, to be what relation is with the environment. So,
01:36:01 to discard rudders. You know that if the resident will be in the person, he's going to
01:36:07 go to be about it. It's part of the music. Exactly. But if I'm used to
01:36:14 enter to the property, to all do the same. First, I do the world,
01:36:18 I'll do you know, I'm the topos, but but it is going to
01:36:22 the thing of to be what more could be could exist. Never
01:36:28 me has to talk about but so to know that in the community who do you know
01:36:33 in the corner, a cross a revest or they're in the corneres in the
01:36:39 little, no, no, not they're not more, like like with a little
01:36:44 and a basura? To say not it's too. And because the house is
01:36:49 abandoned or like the doonon or like the know you know, you know, there's
01:36:54 there's that the people yeah, it's a year. back there, exactly. yeah, to go ahead, practice the angelism. I went to the house and I sentia
01:37:29 like the, the pecho, like, here's like, there's, there's a little, but it's a lot. Enter to the,
01:37:38 to the, the, to the recamaras, all this, and in what I was, I was to get to mariaar,
01:37:45 see, and I said, when I had no, because so, like, like, like,
01:37:49 I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, the entrance to the door to the property of the property and I began to go to the cellar.
01:37:58 And my head started to start, I said, I'm going to like, I'm like, I'm marying, I'm going to
01:38:04 get to get, I'm going to the wall. And I'm going to, a manorneal. Goodsardes. Diggum, sir,
01:38:13 you know, I'm, you know, thank. Why? Cuisherst much. And so,
01:38:23 and so, there's a There, what do you say? How? How you explain that part? Okay. So, that you recarguess, you know, you're sitting there, but that's been sent out.
01:38:36 But that you're saying, you feel's been. Quiddese? Alian, that, obviously, we're going to pass us by the street, that's not even if they're at the front. I'm going to see, into the house. What was, I know, I've gone more of the other than, yeah no.
01:38:52 Yeah, no. Yeah, no. But, yeah, I mean, and I, I tell, maybe more the other more things that I don't live,
01:39:02 I think of a two, three days me passed a very interesting, that I'd like to
01:39:06 get to let him to get to that person not, no, no embon with that
01:39:12 situation. What do you think, so if we're able for a second episode,
01:39:17 and me despido with a little anecdote that me told some
01:39:20 some some there there a person who I'm said,
01:39:23 I've I've a situation very macabra with a person that
01:39:27 is a contact with an angeles. I'm to tell this anecdote for all the
01:39:32 people who the other to affect your questions. Are you things that are things that are things that
01:39:38 are things that are going to this person me said. I thinkia much in that but one day
01:39:46 I entered the doubt I've heard those episodes me to the
01:39:50 angels cailed that are the episodes where we have talked about about
01:39:53 the success that apesta, that what they're trying are the
01:39:57 is the they're with the question. So, I'm there's this
01:40:01 angelologist that I know that I'm never messages good, if she
01:40:08 she had contact with demons. And then I'm I'm I'm a question,
01:40:13 ohie, you only contact with angels, and me say, yes.
01:40:17 And me says, Angel Caj and me don't say, too,
01:40:20 they're saying, too, so So then I did know that I know how many
01:40:26 times because that that's a not a very much that's having to be with angels
01:40:32 cailed, but I'm the idea that are angels, and so, and I said, I'm,
01:40:37 I, and I said, I'm, really, I'm paniqueed because I know what that may
01:40:43 to happen or what going to happen, or what I'm, like, I've been
01:40:48 in the last six years, for trat with these people, no? So,
01:40:53 If there are some there's some there's I'm I've said,
01:40:58 I've said a second a second came a hacker that we're about
01:41:02 we're a technique of manipulation that occurs in all and it
01:41:08 is envuel mugger with a very very and
01:41:12 put a name precious but why why is
01:41:15 doing that why not he's and I've been with
01:41:23 Why? Because if no, no, it's simple. And if I I say, if I don't know the things
01:41:28 directs how are, nobody would be there. But, of this manner, I'm not
01:41:35 I'm probably not quite because it's like a wayco legal, because if I'm
01:41:39 saying the between lines, but so so they're doing a selection of information
01:41:45 that they're that they're that they're that they're
01:41:49 in this world of the paranormal or supernatural the spirituality,
01:41:55 have your precautions, and manage with a good in your criteria in what they want to care you know,
01:41:59 but manhens with a good Pacheco, you're very much. How did you do you know? Very well.
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01:42:25 let's say this one of the same time. And that's good time and that have sweetas pesadillas. Bye-bye.
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