HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Hice un pacto con una entidad que no me deja solo | ft. Héctor Pacheco | Ep 140

Episode Date: November 28, 2023

Este capítulo nos sumerge en las profundidades del terror, con un ex creyente del Yoruba que comparte sus escalofriantes experiencias.Descubre el oscuro mundo donde mediums son poseídos por espíritus y las sesiones espiritistas toman un giro siniestro, desencadenando consecuencias físicas espeluznantes.Pero la trama no termina aquí: la Santa Muerte busca a Pacheco para un favor inquietante.¡Prepárate para un viaje escalofriante al lado más oscuro de lo sobrenatural para que @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE

Very devoted to the moment. So, your negotiation depends on much of the death. You can can't

that they're that they're and they're and the and the real real the lente was very

burlona. Welcome to Family Nighter to this new episode to let us of the

new episode special. Front of me is Pacheco that he is recommended in a person that

was here that he said narrator you need to to talk with him. He has some stories that are impactants.

And I've a moment we've talked about and I'm tell you know this episode have to be to see this

this episode. Pacheco, how you're good? Thank you. Very well. Welcome. You thank you

have done the time that you give the opportunity to tell here because I know that various of the stories

that you're going to are personales so I'm so I'm being present that they're listening to

what they're listening that's entertainment are some video. Some life of

some people. So, I'm so the part of the public invitation.

I mean, I'm definitely so. It's some experiences personal that's that's

that's long as my life in, and before to be a agent immobiliario,

and I have been a agent immobilierer also. They've been many,

things, interesting, that's not know to know, more people, more,

very, personales, to the people I'm, I'm not to do,

but so I I don't know I'm just. That's the community, the community of the family

nocturnan let me be the not really is a community that's a community that's being made these people,

they're doing this they're doing to say, a me and that's a story that has been a lot of

time. So, so, sitete to be the family well, and one

once said that I'm said that I want to talk to this person, when it's the first

when it's the Me said for there that you have many stories to tell us. Is this

this? That's what it is? What do you if to be just to give the best of this

can't I? I'm going to you one. This story me the last about a few days

and it has to be with this thing that we're talking that we're talking about

things that are that this story, if they're in the episode of Carlos

Oced is the relato that he said I'm going to give to form very resumied in

details. Carlos is a person that has a life normal 100% in your

adolescence you invite a group Catholic. This group Catholic is a type of deformation

spiritual, moral, and are five years of formation. He entered, he,

he got a group of people, and he was there during various time.

He said he were They were together the sabbado, then reunions of and a year, there were a

retiro. If they were a city, and there were in this group they were an a word the fact.

The fact is that this type of groups, much, is a combination of between

to know people, to be people, to be a many people have done to the

formation and is more the part social. There others that are

enfocant in the part of formation moral, spiritual, dogmatic, and so. I think this

occurs in all the religions and all the group social. Well, the point is that Carlos,

no he was the type not more entregated, nor more credient, simply he was going,

a good, and with a group of people, and then he came, when he

got a third year, go to a return, and what he says,

is the more is very a something that I have been in this type,

but I was not a prepared for what he he said. He comments that they are doing a

oration. They're all in this group. For this this is the third year,

are people are people are people who have seen many and they sometimes

some and they they're to change the voice and they're to

talk in a type of a different One's entre-balbuceos, others are talking rapid.

Of a repent, some people start to start to talk to something that nobody more see than they, the person who is the phenomenon.

Carlos, is there in the room, is it that's being that's going to that's going to start, he's doing

an oration that are of kind of kind of kind of things in many moments is so.

So, he verbalizes but he's conscious and he says what's what's what's going to

he's he a lot of he's a lot of the person and he smacked

he's back and the person separate a meter of the and he he

said he doesn't idea the the level of me

and they're and there there in this situation that

was something was something the people had been said that this

existed and that was like a wonderful I don't live so for me it was a

cause that I'm that I'm that I'm never even he also he said it was

like to see it's like a movie of you know the first time you have to see that

those pictures of that maybe they're never you know once you have said that's

Chico, tell me your story. Very well, first the thing of Yoruba, that I've commented on the first of

before, I'm doing before I'm when it's not a model, as like the way,

as well, I know, I know. a senior in the business family, I'm in

the business, I'm in the night and I'm to start at the business, I'm

got in my job, at the the interior of the business,

the interiors start to start to be to be a parpresent

to be a very very very this good she's in the

recivor and me comment you who are you do you do you

do you do you do get a but tacante salte okay

me I'm I'm come and he comes and he and he

where you know you my job I'm a master. Okay.

Your energy is very very strong. You know, I don't understand the normal. I'm okay, what I do? What I do? I say,

I'm going to be a business, pass around 10 minutes and me and me says any that you more ahead

contact me your number you know you know she has okay I Disconnocia

situations like these because it was to enter me to a world that I wanted and that when I'm going to enter

I refer to know how I've been never been septic me pass things that started to

quadrard so like I I'm this I'm this and I

said because why it does it I'm I'm know the because of

the a comrade of the religion Catholic and we went to a good

about a question about that I'm really I'm used things that I'm not going to

they're saying. First situation that was to get to this

she was just simply was like contact me I'm I'm in the

town of the city for that so okay perfect

the she the she made the spina clavada, I said, what I imagine, something to question

to me, to the business, all this. The past of the time, we know, we've got to that in the property where we've been

to hear things very strange. Arrestra, and toys, or these, like, bacinicas of practice for babies or

children, that's active only thinks, well, you're fearing the pila, not a bad, but

so things that we'd have been to think that were going to think that

were going to not a question. Perfect. Contacted to the sirs.

We're saying, we're going to this. Vena to my house.

Let's hear of the caracoles. The actor of caracoles have a super book

grandissimo. The first experience was that and we did I practice the

Yoruba. That's the Yoruba. us We'll explain to the story of the religion

Okay they're in a part of she's in a little right that's

now she has more of the person, we don't do you know the ceremony we're

not to do you don't that's part of her me she says she's

enter if it in Cuba I don't let me the time of Cuba to pay

the thousand $1,000 for the people, for the doctrine is like Avalau. I said,

I mean, I want to know I'm going to get the feet completely, because obviously we know we're going to

go back. The people is malay, people are people good in the life, that's obviously,

we're not to be the bados, and the good are not sure. It's to start

to get to get to the yoruba, as three ceremonies, to the time of the time

of time of things that they're they're that I know it in the

actuality I don't know because they've passed 12 years the practice

those years that's that's and then know a little more

of this never I never I never me perjured

the people in being there is for that you

you you can in that the time not

the thing of the money economical, everything, I want to me,

not pass out for my case in that. So, for that so I never

never never to work things. But I know things very, very,

very very very in the ceremony, in the which was a

lechon, it was a in the one in the that was a

dark, totally black, with adornos or accessories in the

the pors, and the chives, with chives, the animals with quarnes

around. To me it's very rare. The querns no related to the devil

so. I said in the quarters pure, I'm in the black

and I had a many, I said many, I said many questions,

and I say, I'll say, me me this, me he'll

live it, at final to do do, okay. In the Tock

Ambor was literal, the to talk at tambour, a song of

a music. Very beautiful in the music. In rezos in the internaissance

of the song. And you you're you're moving, you'd them've been

they'd be able to get them a little we're sitting on two feet of in circle

and the person principal just to the center of the circle has been

a to the time I strained. Me I liked the story this of the

Yoruba, all this. Sal go to the quarter and I'm what I see what'sy what'sy

what I'm nothing black. The religion Catholic Yoruba empata much I'm

back to he said okay I think because I'm because I think

because I think it there's there was to the Yoruba natural

could be the not commercial the Yoruba that that's not I don't know that's about

I'm going to say the cruz but infante if they're in juruba and how time has been perfect

I said okay I know where we're where I'm sorry this this is this was this

was in the 2008 2010 2008 2008 and and you you're

you're you're you're you're you're you're you can't

we're in a circle I was I was almost I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna there's

there's people that comevvian in to play the timbor and you're gonna to be talking tocando passing

in the tupjones and say no ragoon no nothing literally pass and you

see you're you're not to tumbar in relation no that are in the a cell. And you empuckaband,

to front, to back? No. From here. To the right. Right.

So, the right. So, never was nothing to yeah. Pass. Yeah.

It's all in the Monterey that ceremony. We went to two three

ceremonies. The to the tambour. Yeah, now, so in house,

yeah, all right, all right, we're after the lectura of caracoles, ceremonies, all this, me contact

a friend. As I said, I'm a little bit of people. I'll talk about it. Me said, an friend, oh, you know,

you know, you know, my house, my his dog, he's got a I, I'm just,

but I said that a pigger he's a pug. Me made an attention

because, I think, if I'm to talk for, I've responded to the

tiger's the Baja Pacheco of that then he said, he goes to help him

and give to give to the religion. I'm going to the people. So, if I'm a benefit,

I'm perjudic, because no me to be to be to give me.

Okay, and what is the what is what is what is what I'm in my

house, I'm a little I'm a little bit of the room where he in the

housegues, there me he says that he's that he he goes to you know, no,

you know, they say, no, nothing. My son my son my son, he's not

my friend, me, with the door a door abirted, he's a little,

he's not a interesting. Okay, what more? He says, look, this tiger

me says that's very bad me said, me he's he's a he's, but no,

there's no more a tiger. I'm you've put to think that that's put to be

the I mean, I say, I'll have the things. You have to get to get to and say,

I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna know, the time that I'm that I'm

that's I'm gonna to know to be to know, let me invite me to give to

let me do you know? You can be in your house? No? Is that I'm,

my husband no dorm, my son no Dorme. Okay? Go? Let? We'll,

let. Let us I said, I said, I'm sure. I go, I tell you what's going to

me say, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm sure, because that's put for a session spiritist.

And I said, I said, my session spiritista in the head to have to Capulina,

to Don Ramon, in every, something. Something, exactly. Something, something,

something, something, pantacioso, no? My he said, me to get to the people,

among my that we're in this of the religion, I think, okay, perfect, we're,

we're, and we're, she, she's, the other we're not us, we're not

more people, because we don't get in things to get in the fear,

and we we don't we're to the people, it's like, so, I'm going to

be going to get to me to get, I not going to be to be to

You know, at the day, at your house, at the time, at the night we're going to go to be in.

Because I do you, do you do not do you, all is for a good,

okay. We're all the night and we're all right, we're two people,

we're about 12 people and two more with the woman and her and she

and he and he and pieces and talk of the , part

of the of the the ceremony and And it's the good. What is the good? The session Spiritist.

12 violators on the 13 of the night that's consumed. Not all. But they were consuming

as much I was the time. And we had to be a friend, her and her

and we were my friend, her and her wife, I, and

I, and I went to the circle. And the The Lord, the

is she's and she's and she's and he will be and say, or he will be able to say to his life to hear what he wants to hear. Because he knows that you

want to do something. He'll say nothing bad for you. Receive it. It's a venison for you that he'll tell you, he'll tell you. I said, he is

she. Okay. He's with my friend, that's the first of the circle,

and my my friend he says things of his life, things that's

that, that will live, and yeah, deja a bellator of my my

amigua, and with my wife my my my friend. And, and

this the that's that's that's an I'm going to get to

know to hear a voice very of a man, you know you're not

in me what's what's here he's so nojado or enogated

and I was in the sixth after of like like

I said I'm I'm to start to not the

woman with the bellar in the my reaction a thought

was, it was he was in the head in the head. Because no cre in

her, not crees in me, no crees in him, and it and it's the,

the vealada or the cera or the car, that's her liquid, so it's

that's it's it's made the veil about the valetora in the the cell

the ser cremated in her in her and so it was like for all, for

all, it was impactante because never an spiritism no one

we're there I mean my am I'm like the husband me held

the man and I'm going to this is this is all for well it's all to be

so we're to catch it be yeah with me my surprise

is that when I see the car he was a a bigito

and the voice of a man great for this when he had

with me no see in markers of cera and chemurred amputas

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And I was saying, but I was talking, that I see different to know that there's a tracer and with you guys like, like without and the voice

like I said very big and the coming like a baston and he had a baston

and he got to move away and so I go ahead and it when you know that

when I was because I'm I'm wrungated arugated is the man

is a black of the white black more more tall than I

made an 85 approximately pen pelo ruby long

suelt but But, yeah, she was a very, very, I mean,

very arugated, I mean, the eyes like in treasurrated, very strange. Okay. Yeah.

Termina the recorriot, yeah in the of San Lazzar where each one, about what he says,

her mama, and say, now, so, because with me because it was an in the link

with me a friend, so it was, so, it's, you'll explain what you

but, tradusel it for you say, me he's going to

start going to the person that's a person that's a man will

enter in she's going to be a he's a man a man in his

car and what is that is he's he's his his

house the the house is in my house is my

house so so you're going to do this. If you attack, attack, attack, la, or do you know,

do you know, that's a exactly. What's the tiger? Exactly. What in the tiger, supposedly, to, what we're,

we're talking, in the tiger, said, a little, he said, that's a, that, that,

that, he was, he, or at a more, he, he'd be a, he'd,

he'd be, to be, he'd, he'd, he'd, to know, to know, that's a

little, he'd, okay, perfect. I'm, I'm a I'm a woman

no I'm not the word his factions can be a of a man 35 years

yeah maduro a faction yeah a signo so enoged no this is my

house you're here you're you're not you're saying I said like I said

like I'm here I'm here I'm here always I'm here I'm impacted because

that's she's a person and he's a guy he's another so what's

what's what's he's the woman she had to attack attack

so that that's that's that's that's okay and my

me me he's he's to get to he's he's got to

know he's he's he's he he's he's he's

he's he's with all. And they said, respond to the front, like you, and I say, let's tell you. Ashto to lay your life,

your house, your your wife, your son, your your little bit, there's, they're going to forcegear. There's a, there's a, a sofa, pardon, at the time, and across to the

senior, and he starts to, go to the sofa, the senior with the the head and the back on

the back on the foot and the man began to get to get that

the and the the little was really a ha ha ha ha

so this this is I know I I is diabol

so there's so there there's eyes oh ho ho I'm

I'm I'm yeah I never more in never I

never I And the moment of the pleito, so like that. The the entee

he has a my friend, my man he he's and he's he got,

he's got he, he's gotchee. He, he starts on the gulfes. The

surprise was that the, obviously there's there's there's there's

there, no, my my friend, he, he's to revinta the

the of the woman. The medium that had into the spirit? Your friend

was a bit of the boy he was the redent the yeah, so

like, like, like, people, they're people, so, the people,

so, the people, I'm my man, my man, my man, my

one, about, 75, so, so, I'm not very really, and don't

do, and then the repented the her man and and the senior

kept a like what you said the and what you say the caters and what is in the descans to the head

never willte to what is the restaldo so like that he kept and it and it's

a repend yeah that's that was her response yeah so

yeah yeah that's that that's not was what that's

not when it's when it says yeah it's she

was the a book, no had a no, we know, we know,

we're going to nothing. Nothing. Nothing. So, in the piece of there's

my my friend, my man, the the heart of the he doesn't he's back to

say that I mean, I mean, I mean, after this four the morning, four and

a half, we're we're we're we're a man, a week, a second,

a week, and to be in my house. I said, no, it was a lot more than I said, no, it was a lot more than I was never even though. I said, because there was to do not, you know, we're going to do with it.

What happened with the tiger? My son's up here. Dejoed to talk of the the name of the new. Yeah. Okay. The the young, I mean, no, I was not about. I'm not even though. After the time, we'll have been to the house. After the time, we'll go. My

My son, my son's in the quarter closed, my his door's going to be in another. So,

for consequence, the little, the kid, also, he was, you know, you've

told him, he was the Poo. Exactly, to what we said, that we're the Pue,

the king, the king, the, yeah, that was in the recamara of the little

two and the two and the thing, he was, so, there,

there was two entities in that that case, one, one, one,

with the and was he was, it was a a boy, it was a

little, and the recamara principal, of them of his wife, and his enemy, was the

man, in this case, the entity adult. That's, that was, and he molestable

the that he exactly, exactly. That's, that's very impactant stories,

I've heard, I've heard, not in spiritism, in possessions, that occurs, what of,

that, that physically a person is affected and then as the trance or

of the position, the the body is like regenerated to a certain

level, but that's super impactant I'm to know after what you

commentes in a practice of a people, people about this

thing of the same the time in a night you know, of this paranormal

or things that are that's that's something. Something something said

me commented. they said when you're doing a possession there's and I said then there's

a position I said a position in the person was a so entered a mante

for a San Lazzar and that that that you passer that that was

the the thing of the the spiritism for the thing of Tigger

and the thing of Poo as as I'm have pass this, pass this,

help me with this, what can't do you know, the process have been to do you have been a

one of a occasion was in a time, the line of the time of the this time

I'm gonna a car of a man, let's go to the visit, okay,

go, go, I'm accompanied the job, I'm a company to the time, and no,

alivian, you know, I'm gonna, I'm out of his house, or a balandal, a door

of those of those of oldies that's here's here the door in the window of

like, like, like, like, and my my friend and I get to

go, okay, perfect. Viener a man, a man, but he comes to

on the window, goodnaches, how's goodnaches? How are you? But right he's,

yeah, he said, yeah, he's, okay. And he's, what on, yeah?

He said, I'm saying that's doing, no, no, no, no, I'm going to oh, okay. I said,

my son my son my hitho, that's that I'm that you're going to be but I'm

my what my boyito said, he's called the abolito resola and I'm said,

a man pernoontit cana black, can't encorbedito the sir over the

door the same right he's right bacheco you're playing you know

why? wait I he met to his cell I'm in a photo

familiar and says he's he he's a ching the face his five years

so it's like it's like I mean I mean how you you know the explanation of you

don't know I'm gonna know you know you know for you to give you to

here you just I talked with some episodes with Brenda Minbella and this chick

lives in Guadalajara and a part of the house in the way of her and they were in a decoed to be a tinder of barrotes. The tienda of barrotes and I remember I was it, I'm a manor I remember, and it was to be it. But the abuelo fellacy and it was of these colonies in those in those of all.

Then the mom comes to talk to us that is that is apparently the abelow and they're asking how. And says, is that you have been various providers. that they're here.

I'm occupied to the don't know I'm not even though and the provider normally

usually and they're when they're when they're doing a man of a person of

proportions great with a face, that's sitting down of the car

that says they're saying there's there and there's and the second I'll

go and nobody didn't and my father. So, also There's a house in the center

during, yeah, that house there's a house there no exist, but during many years,

friends of this family and when they'd to be in a person a person calva

with bigote very very sonriently and not was about. And then they said to the person

like, well, then I'm come for X person and the person calma and just

just like just wait a time, and all a minute five, 10 get a

person that was the because I'm in the case, hey, yeah, what bad

the old, your father, your brother, this person

with this description me and I did it and they were the house

the and they they were a photo is he he's he's

he's he's he's he's and he was that's is very

impactant because like the the that you the fact that the fact

that's it's is super impactant the of this house of the center

is that occurred for seven years and he passed on a 50 people.

And all they're like the very much the family, no? If he

came to he received you, he received a person. So it is impressive how

they're still these families that that are the

environment but no he's something that's totally strange.

Exactly. I think fantastic if if it you know what I'm

the bad. I don't you can't tell to any of because the sceptic

you know, the sceptic, the he he he doesn't he, and you know, and you

and you enter's in a thing of a kind of that's many,

I've heard of the time of the trailerers I've people, I'm

people, that's they're in the time of the trailer and

they're very very in the carreterer in the parlor in the parlority. I mean, I remember when I was in that 20 years,

that we went to a Guadalajara in an o'clock. Me took on Matewala. At the altar of Matewala, there was a parader.

Yeah. I was the bus and we were all the selection of New York, all the minor, infantia minor, and the major.

We were in rejecto A and And the and at the mountain of

we're going to the chauffer putting music of cadet and the

voyage is to goz and we know the the chauffeur here see

there's there are like how are the women know

so one has one has the image no I

know a so are so for that is what they're what they're what they can be

just in that part after the parade of Matihuahua okay and we we're going to see some

a ball of a ball of you've seen with your yes so we've we've been two

two companions and I sated you of the center and companions in every

together on with with on and we we're and we

look but very great in the ball of the fire and advancing. See? In movement. So, like, no,

I mean, is a woman. A lot of you were the ball of a fire approximately? If you were very

retired, maybe to be 200 meters. I was very great, but it was very long. Yeah,

so, so, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, so, so, so, that's, so, we did, and,

and, and, and, and, the time , if I'm a part of the

brusas me said are the mules of the fire they're like the rancho

the legend of New Leon a lot of the year and said I'm and I'm

about the things and I said that's that I said that I'm this is a

person so they move in fire in fire in fire in a ball of

the ball of the fire the ball of the past so yeah much

time but if you'd have to be that that ball of the of the how you think you

had made to more or less so you know, it's that I'm going to be a

distance if it's however not it was like two meters maybe

maybe maybe a two meters a distance but I'm

I'm I'm the and the radiation of the the

fire so so yeah yeah yeah like like

literally is a a yeah exactly exactly Okay. And so, the color?

Rojo. Or so, rojo at center and orange around. So, total like if a fire

preended, so perfect. So, the reds and azules and yeah, no, no. So,

orange and rojo, rojo, orange. Okay. This is the part of the blackusca,

of that also when it's see, it's, be like, like, so

sort of a certain, or so the naranha. I think, I think, I think, I don't

not was not seen the the black because it was to I was a little distance. But if it was a

rojo very incandescent, so it was very strong, very vivid. Yeah. And how was it?

Like, for brinkos of a form like if it. A wonder. Like a a wonder. Uh-huh.

So, not it was not too a very rapid velocity. Uh-huh. But in what we passed

for that part or the project this of the carterer, no, no it was a no, it was

so it. So, so it was so it. So, and it no, no,

no, no, see you the They were to learn where they were at the When they were When they were the most So it was around

When I was No No, the camera He was completely Oh, perfect Exactly with the climate and

but if no no see yeah And with the music obviously we're trying there's a level high and if no,

we're making not we couldn't even that we're the chauffeur of the car the car the auto bus

this part and us and you did you did you get to get to something to

something? No, he mentioned that as it was how they were in exactly. He me he said,

and the rest of the rancho final of the question of the fire in the corner, that's the thing you, that's for you,

that's for you, that's a other, that's a more, that's a other podcast could be interesting

for not not sell the term of the yoruba. But, but, but he, he said,

he said, he said, he brought to the world, or so, the universe, I'm coming to,

that's, that she, that's even a woman, a girl, a It came to the piece and totally

desgarraged like if you were his robes you know we're going to have to be a lot of

but we're going to let's get into the Yurova there's a day of there's a despojo to let's a chas

I was of Yemaya the I'ma actually of Yer actually the saints are more know

are Shun Changu and other other other more I was, I was I, I was Yorahua, the reina of the mother of the mar, and I, my virgin was the carri of the copper. I had a virgin of the caria of the co-de-a, that was the

was that I represented Yamaha. And, well, I mean, all this had, to what I would say, to my niche in the which I made my, my petitions, my orations, all what it's all what is for the tobacco, the liquor, all for the

offerings, which is the word correct, the offrendas. For the Urichas? Exactly. The rich,

exactly. And, I go, with it, I'll get to the story, that's the

more the company of the that I have to talk to, this story,

me contact a one a friend of my my my

husband that me says me a this with the

pap of my husband is in the interdepend and the

year nine days in therapy we know they're

an an and they and if fall the

he not not because the life that he

was because I I did okay and so

okay and so what we do what we

you know, what you want to do you okay pass this me says he says talk with the

chau do you do that to tell you he's that he he went for you

come in for me that they come with me okay I'm I'm

I'm tell me tell me what what so he was this

a bacteria that he went to in the cell in

the Lanoaccio The sir And he said And he He went

The Repententine The Sir He said We said We'd We've got To my

Papa In Laoka Did say Nothing We've We've They've They've been

The Ciciatric That's Yeah for the Topochico We We

We've In an Ambulance With Temperature The The Sir

Temperature Enorm So Okay And okay me I'm a attention

to that I'm talking I'm talking about to help you're

okay and we get to the clinic of the IMS the iPhone to

yeah I attended okay me I'm I'm to look

I want to you know you I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm that's I do it

but I'm to get me to Then, I could say,

that my head said, it's a bad but not not are a

malo. Okay. The pre pretext sir, go to her back, pap,

pap, pap, pap, pap pap, me said okay, tell that he come. Okay,

onse at the night in your house, take belaeras, bringance,

uh, uh, uh, herbs for the oration. Okay. The man,

he said, I don't know I want to be to see him. I don't know. A lot of 11, 19. 10.5. Let's go.

Entremus in a pharmacy. Agarra all the hours. I'll try here. And as he, he'll be entering. Auntier of him. And he'll he'll be. Is that my my tibu. I go.

no, Salvalo. You're not like, you're doing a man, pardon, husband of the

brother, of his wife to the house to the house of the and we're and he said,

my friend what we do we're that you that your father is a morning

of therapy intiv so your papa will be but in a risk

your papa could have to have been sequels. It could be

to be that he is put to he's posted or not going to he's been postrad only sitting, and he's not more.

Like zombie? He's a very young. I want to be here. He's here. I'm here. Tome's the man. What I'm going to pass on the next.

We'll start the oration. You can feel that they they're going, that they

move, they're they're the back, the back, the back, not they

don't get. For favor. And you less, he's your popa.

No do you do you do you do you do you do marce

do do you do hours going to be here another

more two hours And you'll go I continue I'm going to I'm going to

start to work with Yoruba and then I'll do you do you so I'm

dark, well, I'm too to talk the door really, so to talk the operation

the oration the relation and the movements the the gulfes in the side of

the rugs to rugs, to me raguos in the hands, no the same, like that's like that's

like, that's like the in the hand in the hand, so you know, and it's

not to mark, not the but if the life, like, like, you know,

so you're like, you know, so like, yeah, you know, so, so,

and then, me, me, even, the way, the way, the, those,

holdones, to be, so, a, of the cabel of the , and he's

very, he was a much with him, he was much with he's termina me

says lavence the hand's the face the hand's the okay

me I'm I'm let me I'm had I had like I was

I was so I know those were exactly exactly me

I'm the and what I'm so I'm so I'm so

see cart and I don't me I'm no I'm no

I'm no I'm markers. My friend I brought one here in the in the

in the coel and I think I'm a little wick, let's get something,

let's get a to do this to do this to him he's said he said he's going to disappear

me, like you want to put to get me to be to but he

in the time of the hands I'm a little a

little I'm like I'm like, I'm like, the way. So, the way. So, we're going.

And we're a friend of, my friend, me, he said, that in the morning, he, well,

he, he, he, he's, he's he's, he's, like,

there, the day of the , of the, the, , the, and that's,

he he's, he's, he said, and he's, let's, let's, let's,

that, that, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's,

in your house and all this for that's a little to be tired to be here all the days okay and if she's he's

he was at the eight was that the morning he marked the sir to his mom

he said he says your mom how is all all right all right all all right

you're to be your papa you're to come to come to be okay

they're immediately to the clinic They came and said that's the young

they've been in therapy intentsiva or the other people in the car in the cell

of the revision that might be so that's like in the piece he said that he's like

he was not they were not they're like that I'm in that moment no

repuously reposted the and he he said the doctor uh your

papa can you can't have to that reactioned very rapid. For

that they can know that if something he says,

he he says he's memory, movement, movement, or what

that's something. He said, he's he's he's he he,

he, he he, he after of what he he said

he he's he's he he's he was a

night a total of when he took a

therapy insensitive. He was he said he's he said, nothing of, yeah,

he's been really, very, very, very very very very

after. After this, we're a woman, in the, in the oration

that night said, he said, he said, he said, he's, he'll be sure,

sure he's probably, more ahead, your papa, he's, a day will

fall to not accept, not, not not not the past. You're going to

when I think in the car in the in the in problems of the health and they're

to be in you're going to be who's the polo-o-o-o-o- the devil who does that

he did you know to do? But if you're going to you're going to be a zombie

there if no way to docket to do you do you do you do

you're Vivo? Hello, thanks to God, that you gave to the time that has been a

last time. VIII. 5 years. Dural the Lord. In the wife, he said

that he went to gozando his life that he could be not able to do

the time and the lack of time. And if me he said, when the

man came in a camera very very very It's very strong for a

thing of internal if a he's that he he took that he

did he they're they're they're they they're to say he's

for his name that I want to let's the name salval no

no no there was no no there wasn't there

he's in the back he's saying he's in the they said

it's they were a pachiko salamelo. So, so I'm going from there to the clinic. Me up a while

a day only more and he fellacy and he said but it was like that's time to give him

to give him he was a bad for him I said it could be it

after this that he that's this is this I said this I'm I'm

madina said madina I said. After the time, I said, I said, no, I don't

know, no, no, I waske, me took to be one of the, of the, I, in that case, the religion that we've we said, and he said, you know, the number of Ruth?

Yeah. Pasoled. And he said, yeah, they're to look, but so they're looking. You know, I'm just to ask, but I'm just

to get, Pachel. And so, it. After this, I mean was very

very of the other and this, I'm in other things more than

those, I'm not so not so it's very very very the feeling

to be a idea that said, okay, it's okay, I'm

I have to pay one this, so I, so, so are favors

that are they need to give and I said, and I did, and

and things of what's what I'm going to happen to what I'm going to normal

that you don't know that you're without no no matter or so not the

spiritism it's no no a single so so this is

not normal this not this is like to say to the I'm

to the person I'm very much that part of the sir that's a

piece very so I'm I say, I always I've said, to give

an help. I agree with some I'm going to have done too, so I'm very much in

him too for so, like, God, God, God, that's the I was

always I said, and I said, when I said, I said, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm to say, I'm, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you're not, you're, you know, to do, the same.

Me, it's a help, I do. I do. I don't do anything I'm doing the

I'm going to the man, I'm very very this part of the man. Me said,

you're going to do you do you do that to say to say, I'm okay but how

you're you're going to go to a rio to to a

attention at all around when pass this. It was a time of winter. Okay? I'm I'm my

my offrend, my total, all the river. It was a very large. 3 meters

of the inch, to the center. That's that's the current is what is the offender,

no. It was a pesado. It was a ball of, of, not concrete, but

so, lodo, pesado, so it was that was my santo and me you're going to

do you do you do you do you're but attention at the around for you

know you take you get you go and I'm accompanied she's she gets to a

coast of the rio and all I'm my robes blackas me

put in a boxer I'm I'm I do this, I'maneo, and I see a person, a woman, at the front, a vestal black and a garretto

black. Blanco. Blanco, radiant. And it was a day. See, I see, like, I said, I'm like, yeah. So, I see, like, I said, what I'm, you, so,

what I did, so, what I did, so, what I did, so, what I did, but I'm not, because I did me, because I did, I, I did I did well, I said the people

and the people and it's it's the that's the thing, that's

I know of the after I know after the after the and I know

to say and then to do not to do I've to be very common

to that's very common to do that I'm that I'm that I

take in to be to be a religion I mean, I mean interested. I don't want. Because I've lived.

Yeah, I'm living. I go. It was very very strong in some moment. It was something that I didn't expect. That you said, I want to know but you know's much.

And it was a theme after with with the church Catholic, this is what I I'm going to. What I'm to talk.

It's, you you've done. Yes, yes, yes. And me said, it's normal. before you're

not you know you know when you're going to let's with you know what you know what you

do you know there's there are there's that's also there's there's that you

get to where you get to you're to get to the other okay

and so that that so that we're we

with the yuruba with these questions of the yuruba okay

that despojo of the santo there was a moment in the he

was a the so to be to be a thing because I

have seen I've heard of all right to have people that they

have that they're that they're not a man to be

they're going to do to do this is more much it's

very so it's so I'm bavalao so like, like,

right at the reality, the collars, the yeah, the prussas exactly, I mean,

I'm more representatio with that. In my case, no. In my case,

no, in my case, no, representative was what is the pald or the casulita with the

santo, the barrow. Yeah. It was what I represented and the virgin

of creed of the churba in this yeah, pardon. Yeah. It was it,

and you, in my I remember, I had what was my santo, for the offrend of what is the pure, the liquor, you know,

the offer you put in, what you put in there to be to pay, and nothing more.

And that that's, that's, the despojo, why was the depojo? Because that had to

that's been to get, well, your compromise with the religion. So, saliret.

It was your form to do. Exactly. So, I, I don't, I,

you, to God. So, and me they're so, you're doing this for you

cut the lasos and do you get your life without to your santo. That that

that's that's you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're

like you never had been there. Exactly. Exactly. So, what would

have happened? No you know what would have been so that's

that of the despoho? In the in the actually much people

use his pulsars without know of there's people that they're people who

have passed the religion in your your purse your collars, and do you sacrifice

animals I don't it's you know, you know, more things that I have been

I've been a lot of and not quite anyone was used and it was very selective

to the people that was the road of of Monterey, they're in sectors very good

that we're we're who are people who are people who would have what had been to

do you do you see, there's the counter you see the the santa in one

occasion me passed I'm in a college to a podaka and there

and I'm a man me, we're to a a place. Where he said? I said, we're going to see. You go, go to see me.

I'm going to go to be. Manage, manage, manage, manage. I'm, manage. I'm there. I'm going to be there. That's where the coroneriality, that's the other way. That's the pod.

I'm going to be. We got to come back. We got to come back. A lot of many cases with many crosses. The two years before me. I said, sit here.

What are going to do? I said, I said, a friend. No, it was a, no,

no, it was like that's, it's like, that's like, we're in the time,

so, come here, come here. No, I'm here so- and you, and I said,

okay. We're, we're, we're sitting there, with the other, it's,

it's, it's to be able, in attend, me, pass us, pass-le, sit there

here, the signora in me, the senior, her angelistic, people

that's a total black, no? And me said, my recivient

was, what you do you're in the contra? You know, he said, about it

after that's eight years after that's, I mean, you know, you know, after eight years

after? So, I'm did the depojo, he's, passed on the five

years, the Okay. Okay. And so, like, I go, I don't know why. I'm from here. I'm from there's da poitaka. Managed up here. Entree,

I'll wait three hours. No, I say, I'm going. Me, he says, you're still trying what you, according you let's see. So, and I said,

what? You, santo? That's never, you're the part mala. There was the yoruba like, I said,

I said, I'm a lot. what I did in the in the platy that I'm we're talking to talk about

to talk about with the angelologist with the angelologist with the angelist with the angelist we started my friend was she was on

costado she said nothing we're starting we're starting we're talking we're talking the time

of the of her we're we're going to let's thank we're just we're

we're saying Pacheco of what they they were I said I said what we about what I

did I'm not so I'm here I'm trying but I'm talking about this part and says

you're talking you're very enogated your your car was like very encabronados so like

and I had in an idiom that not they were not they're not they're

I'm I'm I'm you know you're you're you're I mean,

less. They were very very and you know in an eye,

and you put it like in attack. You know the not you like you

talking? In the discussion that you took you in the part of you

remember you you know, you know, you know, we're we're

we're not going to our point. Like if you did you like

the the thing of the Yuro in the moment with the the

father equal. So okay but Here you go the because

I don't have a point of this things about the correct or the incorrect or the incorrect.

I've been, I've been curiousing and curiousing very, and I'm revisiting,

would be the word more correct. So I've seen patrons. And there's

there's a pattern in around the memory that not I've said here,

but I'm the question. The doubt in this theme

is, I know the sensation of record the argument, you know, the argument that you

did you did, or it's the sensation? No, she was that I said,

was a malo, what I had was that I was a that I

had been served. Yes. She, says, you you know, you're

to be to be to and he and it and it's refer to that as a

a saint or like a other other thing like that for her for her the Yoruba

was obscure demoniac obscuro oh boy let us let me this Yoruba the Santa

Morte and the yeah like it was over the same of the two

yeah I'm the time of the death there's there's there's

I'm not no I'm there's I'm much respect but I'm I'm much

a yoruba in a a place that not correspond to my experience

and the form of to defend exactly I'm not but I'm to know to know

so that's about the know what to know that's what you know I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm what you're what's what's what's

that's right right is very she yeah yeah yeah

exactly but but but but I'm he really not

a charlatan until the people who had to give a person in a corner you're going to know, you're

going to say someone. I was saying, someone who's someone who's someone who was not a popular,

only it was only were for the fendidigna for where you get to get a information.

So, so when you know that's because he said because he said someone who was

the movie, the movie, he's his own, the same the same Bavalaos they call sanchocheros, no?

And that are these people who are not in the also. Also, also, I'm not like a critic,

it's like a description, because me has talked, I've lived, that between people that they're called

Babalaos, as there's, as a institution that it has a, no, no, no, there's a

form of determine exactly if Cilio is or not it, they're totally in disagreement

on certain different points important. And both, I mean has to call people that in both arguments

were in Cuba did you do you think there's there's a question. I don't he

want to be a intermeticism those processes then not they're not about the processos

but they're in Cuba but even at the moment of the practice they don't determine

that the other is in the incorrect in the exactly so then to

the day to day to say there's a confusion for this

that's so great and so rapid, but if if you I'm in the time that you

were in the time you're because you're like a person fidelined because not it was popularized and that

way. There's actually there are there's that they can count to the respect to Cuba

with the religion. Okay. No let me I respect that part in that

that if want an eruditeism your reason, their armetism, what is the

reason of the armetism? What is the reason to abuse of the necessity of the people, you, you want to be able to be allowed, you're going to

talk a door, here you're doing. And I've commented for the experience of a person of a he said, me cobrown much money.

All my family is a mo'alal and me coererererone and one of the and they'd, and they'd, and me they'd, and me

they'd, and me the Cubans in Cuba. If you know, you know, they're not going to get them but we're doing.

But yeah we're many of money to get them. That's not. So, that's you know,

like here here's Monterey, there's you, that's you, that's about

not-a-balled, not-credited, but if with an experience that you say, he will

be going to be going to be to take, or he will be to be

to tend without a a way it can be able to

do people people that they're not that I know

and I'm not a so the armentism in relation to that they not

they're not so okay okay uh a doubt

and and this is for how you live for so

my question as you did you did I

did you I did one At the day of I don't see if still still still

in the way of not in the practice but I'm saying in the practice real

when you are these these exercises to the I feel that no there's a type of

a filter moral of the good and it's not both both questions

are like a movement of the people are the

people are of this optica. I'm I'm doing I'm I'm okay.

He said he's a paper like a person who's like a person and their necessity

can't be a favor of a person but if it but if he's he's

and it's it's it applies so it's and at final you know we're

going to let's the same the necessity of the person is the I'm

the I'm the I I've always been this, of this creencia.

If I want to help, I'm doing the people who are doing this. You don't

talk to talk about and say, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm not we're trying,

we're we're just, we're to get a problem, to find out to get to be done

to be the person, that's a problem, because the malddda exists, and the

things good are to get the or the help that they can do you

can't do you. And it's what the people sometimes sometimes it's not that's not

normal. That's not normal. That's not normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

there's a good, yeah, that's not that you know, to put out of your

to the new, things that's your land and you're normal. So,

so are things that the people do you do this for this or for maldard. To damage.

Exactly. That's what what you to get to get to get a people and can't talk about with people who

not do you know or that or that's a necessity of the person to get a money. Okay.

This, only in your experience and only if you've been that you topaste with someone

that you did you say this person or not for his creencers but for his

person is a woman or man malvado? Where I when I took to be

a person I'm talking about like the group of people who was that when I took the

tambour no after the time me took a person that me said

oh yeah my my my and so like I said it's

one with various colors I say checkate because

that that not that's not I'm in the actual

that are are co galleers, and are many collars, that's

when you have a level more than the year of the yoruba. So, I said,

no, me said, no, me cobrowed a lot of them. They said, no, I said, no,

no, no. What, what, what, I mean, to say, I mean,

to understand, because you're, every, every, every day, in the actuality, in the

the actuality, is a same, is a son, uh, and and those They can't

who has a level more high in the Yoruba Bavalaos

yeah more a higher in that in that scale and not can

try it a person that's being starting on this he

said I'm so they're a money they're on this

post and this posturita and I have my my

my my son the okay but but me

says a past a two months no, Pacheca, no Pacheca, no Pugh. I'm, because

is that my sacrifice a paroma in my head to be in the same, and I couldn't be able to be able to be

to be in a part of the rito. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm going to do. So, that's,

that's, that's, I don't understand that part. Me, I said, I didn't

that part, I said, no, I said, is that, I said, I said, it's the

point to surprise when when he he's surprised he wanted to surprise him

with the sunnered with the anger, you know, yeah, like he'll do you know,

I'm gonna like, I'm, so in a fraud and that so, she spanto, yeah,

he, he's, he's, he, did he, did you, did you, did you,

did you, did you, did you, I, did, I mean, was, I'm,

and you, yeah, and I, yeah, because in the case of he, for what

you say, no, no, not's not, no, he's not he said,

exactly. So, so, to know, so it's for having out of I've got,

I mean, I can, have to review, I mean, I'm like, I'm

like, I'm, like, I'm, I'm going, I'm going, to be that's,

but I'm when you know, when you're as, as, in a, so,

then just they're, they're what is, they're, they're things, here's what is that

to enter in a santo I mean there's a I can't say I'm you can't say directly

because the idea not is about the sort of the thing in the thing I'm yeah

so they're an offrendas were an they're not not of accessories in the cooed

but if the having the the day day the day

the the the the that that so me to be

something to be and you You know, so, and he's not. So, like,

like, you know, so on this, no more. Perfect. It was superficial and significated. Exactly. Okay, okay.

So, okay. That's interesting. It's super interesting. No, no, I've been opportunity because with the

people that was a platicado was a so much different. Yes, so.

So, so. So, so, so I'm, so it's the thing, is the

thing, is a gulf, the, the word is very very It's a very strong. For me, it's

religion Yoruba. Okay. Yeah, but the santaia comes from this combination Cuban when

they're in the Catholicism, exactly. The thing of that a saint, of the Catholic,

for the color, for the people of color, it's a adopt as part of him,

that's the story of Yuruba, right? But, but if I really, I don't feel that

I'm a man, because the sentery for me is Fertes. For me, it's more

more more of the more of the personal. The palo. In his moment, I don't consider

a obscure the Yuruba. It was like that just practicabas a religion. Yeah. Orations.

At the day of you, you know, you're not. No. No, no. At the paro,

you consider you a obscure to the day of? Yes. Yeah. Apart of the Yoruba,

the palo, what other is, because I think that there are various

that's the voodoo or hudu that they call them what other what are that

there's in the personal only to the Yoruba I think the the

the moment of the question to the family there there there there

devotes to the not much so yeah I mean I mean so I

so so that so so we're so so we we're we're

we're about this time this time of the family

in there's a there's a there's a a question more that's a I'm going to I'm sure you

I'm sure every one of the every person is who's going to get to get that's going to every one of every time

that's a question that this is actually that's made you to know, it's made just to know just the

things that the and with the people who are they're not, so are things that are

not, that are not going to occurrences or propagandas this, Be, you know, well, in this,

in this, this, this form of to get a there's a mind that's that you know, more than the

aesthetic, that's the aesthetic, was to be to the tethric that is, that's people who

like the gothic, that in an initial generate an impact, but then it's

a good, it has been a good, it's a aesthetic, is a a skeleton, so is a

Skeleto that in occasions I try the guadana and in occasions they're in other type of things and it's a could say

an archetype a figure that's always it's always with the final of the life, the final of a

final of a connotation if it's not it's lucubb well but but more the other

the stories that I've heard of people that have created and have practiced normally

are tether normally are tettricas and a person me contact and me he says, no, in my

my vivance no, in my experience, and I'm it's tetic, it's a summante tetrica. I said, no,

I know, I know, I, said, me has, I used to, in X, something, and X, and X,

and X, and X, cause, for, like, I'm, I'm going to do this type of

of offrendas, and then just, I'm just, I'm just, and then just what you're you're,

you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, is that,

you, like a spirit a venative to you do you but I'm doing the

I'm going to you're in the time of the time in the I'm you know this is this is the

I'm not made to I'm to investigate to investigate has been just not more

you know as I'm like you're being so it's for there also

so you know you you're you you the I'm

me but let me give me I want a an

an an to do go more than the ambition of the

people is more if the people are very ambitious you're going to

get in the posse or very well so my family

I've I've I'm my family that are three four are devoted

to the santa death I'm I'm one one one

does not very so so so for what so it's

my first like that's like, a question. Logica, rapid.

Exactly. I have a other I'm more to tell you know, I'm more than I

know of experience of her. His papa, devoted to the death. Very devout

to the business. It was a matter. It was like the little my name

black and my business was growing and I and I said, very

well. But your daughter, your daughter, she's the mother, she's

always, you know, not you don't you like that's like that's a consequence,

you live always a that's a , that the hip, the rinion, that's the

little, that's the very good, I'm very good, but you don't you

don't you don't like that you're like, and to you

to you, you've put to think in the ma'amachica. I'm Y,

I'm yelando that's a consequence of the cobrough? Not you don't you're to be

but they're going to make sure for the that's what you're doing that is much

so, so I'm so the practice. In one a occasion where I live

actually this property I've been in three years in this house

to I'm to appear cabos cabos black blackos in the

bathroom in the cell in the room in the recamara principal in the

recamara secondary and it's normal so you know not in women

with so there no there no there there there

there there and there all all time and again. The

ban. Oh, jove the man. Who can get to the house? I'm going to get to the house. Yeah. Okay. He said, I'm going to be this. Oh, well, I've got

the call. In the door of the recamara. No. Not. Not they were, like, they're like they're going to be. The night. See?

And I said, this is not the next day. The message you, you can't mark? Yes. I mean, and me said,

is the little that's the that's a new that's a occupant to a

or you're you're you're saying a help I'm going to not going to be going to

you're going to you're going to go to I'm going to get to not me to not me not

I'm going to get me and the year this this year for the year of February

March or other the cabels in the lav of two three cabos,

no hilados, or separated, very large in the cabellos. No, that no. Barri, let me go, let me give

a cat in the house. Not a little, but if yeah, a cat. I'll open the door,

me get running, like, like, I'm down the that's in my house. And he's

he goes to and all this and the and the and the my friend, the gats, the animals to help them

to give to the guys are in the I don't know that you. I'm not to know how much the cat, but magically the

head they're not not really, I'm not so I'm not not so I'm I'm doing for that's the cat who gave to me

house. Not that not really, but it's like the cat, get it to get them to your

house? No, so not so not so not you're to have to exactly. Exactly.

So, right. So, right. So, to eat the cat that I'm in my house of my house of my mom and all this,

so you need to be to care of the pants and all this. I mean, but if that's why that's why. So, I think,

I think, I don't want, of that we pass up, no me interest, and I'm,

and I'm shorted for any lastos for that doesn't any of that part. I'm

I am of the person that pass for a busto of the death and I prefer you

do you do that yeah, so, yeah, tell me why you, I don't

I want to use the word rechase, I'm looking like a kind of the wayhation

of this figure and this entity because? There's been many things,

that certainly we've gone to more more more in other

podcast but it has passed that it has to

that me I know to do what I I want to know I

know, I mean in things that I'm going to know that a remit immobilaryary in properties

that I've had been in the time to make it to make it to normal or so I've

succeeded to the the cases for things that have been I'm

I'm saying okay, it's people that's not a not bad no me no me

to make to make to to I don't want to make me that point. What happens

if no do I'm in the Yuluba were an offrendas never pedda like I'm not the

money to not too I don't know I want to do that my family no?

And nothing more I don't know how I'm not sure I know

but to tell to people that I know there's there's there

and there you to why you get to me it's

like the of the United and he's like this like this because you go to

this question and it's a question and it's a question not as a question there's a

question there people that says that they that's that there's there's no there

no, so for the word saying that's not the word is a

process habitual but not it's properly a figure I don't so

entity oscura that is the form in that they have been that's not a

property of the person, so it's so that's your really, does it do you know, that's

done you know, you know, things that things that don't know good with the murder. Example?

For example, the thing of, the time of, the time me felt the

the time I said, I'm going to the carcel. What did you do you do you

do you're in the carcel? We're going to the carcel to be in the child a good. So I

know, I'm in the fact of the fact of the fact of I do, me done

and no you know can't the first cobrado is your family or to

you? They're are so they're so they're we're we're

we're Okay. People in the Comentaries, family nocturnal because I know that in the family nocturna

there are many people that have in the child in the mother, the Santa Mwere.

Pongan us on the how you know this is interesting and I'll say, I'm very curious,

it's like that's things go inlaz and I see many going to many many times

there's the deception but it's the deception and the continue or the majoritario

are of this type. How do you, this, this question of the favor and not to do. It's a so, is distinct. How is? Let us a little bit of the idea.

Also, that other with the one that's not, you know, for the devil. Why? MEDAW. MEDA. MEDA.

I mean, I'm curious. I'm going to see it. And that's all the same, I'm glad that I was, when I had 20 years, 25 years, but I was. Because to know what I see, I feel, I perceive,

and I can't count to me around. It's important to that. And, I certainly, to the community has to be that. I see, I see, I see, I, see,

I'm a movement of things. No, I can say to my mom, because you're going to be be a joke, man, my house, no, my house, no, pats, no. As you comment about,

in question stories, I've many. Casas that I've lived. Casa

family. Trabah now that I've been to have in the house that

I've been in the house of the business? A very,

has a very has a question? I'm that's the that's the property

a house in Juarez. This house, I've my first visit to know the house, video, photographies,

to know the house, as one has to enter to see how is the property. I'm going to the property. I when I'm doing my videos, me when I'm the center when those plants, in the escalator of the one, yeah

in the first piece, no? And I'm going to revisit videos for to see what is bad or that's bad, what I'm a little, what I'm what I'm going. front of the house there was a

a kid a kid I think I think I'm going to hear of that's shushar

laments and I said not it's above and I hear a great

very very so in the videos and it was a

great that I was I I'm to I'm to

see that I see that's a little he's a

I saw the He was a little out of the He was a He was a He was a He was He was a

Curaah No In that In this moment My first My first My first Wolted

to the house I'm in the camera principal I'm I'm

I'm They're They're Moe Moe Movian A Moe

Moeb two three And I I'm There's here in the

house The Eke here The Coer here I Not So I

No valentiment I do I do it and I don't know it's normal

I'm I'm going to see a not going to go to do you know to find out the house

see the videos a minute a minute a hour I'm going to

the door to the door of cameras never no no

there no there was there so I'm so

I'm I'm to the car and I start

the the As you comment about, I, one visit. And I took three more The client's.

We got to the house, we'll get to the property, Baja, the escalary me says, Joven,

the house feels very bad a vibrator. It's new ramoelada. No, know what what's the

thing you know, I'm I'm, I'm know, you know, I'm referring. He said,

I'm to the more of that they were, no, more there

in the house if she's someone in the house and more okay I go to

someone that's she said he said he said no I said I said

one I said this time this time this time okay no we pass

we all we're all the man and I know so

I'm sobby it's very so okay perfect a day,

a second visit a the sir and the sir and the they're to the porch I'm

to put the to the door to the house and I'm in the front of the house

and me is the sir you know you know no I'm I'm

I'm so I'm there is that there is there

is I'm I'm much and man, and vibra with this man,

and I'm sorry when there nothing, not even like, so like that's like, I said, okay,

he said, no, we're going to go ahead of the vendas. Let's know to the vendas that's,

that's all the for God that's, for God, that's all right to be, that's the man,

to be a sure, to be there to be. Segment, a party a young, 21 years. Entran in the

house, the same way, I don't know, I saw you, nothing. We've got, and we're doing, and I guess the house. But,

I see, I'm trying to the house. It's the word of it. She seems that we're not we're just. I'm just, we're just only, we say, if I like, no matter.

No, I'm putting attention to things that no exist. I like the house. Okay. The house they're they're

they're they're they're they're in them they're in the house. I don't

say you so, how it's possible that I heard the first client sentio

and the second saw and the third sentio but he said

the house is me there. There are people I've noticed that

people like have in those that not this reaction.

And there are many in cases in the in the case in a realtor and they're

a realtor and it never was absolutely nothing. But the previous and the previous is

a a pesidia no. So, I'm what good that you do you

do this revisions of the different. It's interesting, like, when you're when you're when you're

being in a place, to be what relation is with the environment. So,

to discard rudders. You know that if the resident will be in the person, he's going to

go to be about it. It's part of the music. Exactly. But if I'm used to

enter to the property, to all do the same. First, I do the world,

I'll do you know, I'm the topos, but but it is going to

the thing of to be what more could be could exist. Never

me has to talk about but so to know that in the community who do you know

in the corner, a cross a revest or they're in the corneres in the

little, no, no, not they're not more, like like with a little

and a basura? To say not it's too. And because the house is

abandoned or like the doonon or like the know you know, you know, there's

there's that the people yeah, it's a year. back there, exactly. yeah, to go ahead, practice the angelism. I went to the house and I sentia

like the, the pecho, like, here's like, there's, there's a little, but it's a lot. Enter to the,

to the, the, to the recamaras, all this, and in what I was, I was to get to mariaar,

see, and I said, when I had no, because so, like, like, like,

I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, the entrance to the door to the property of the property and I began to go to the cellar.

And my head started to start, I said, I'm going to like, I'm like, I'm marying, I'm going to

get to get, I'm going to the wall. And I'm going to, a manorneal. Goodsardes. Diggum, sir,

you know, I'm, you know, thank. Why? Cuisherst much. And so,

and so, there's a There, what do you say? How? How you explain that part? Okay. So, that you recarguess, you know, you're sitting there, but that's been sent out.

But that you're saying, you feel's been. Quiddese? Alian, that, obviously, we're going to pass us by the street, that's not even if they're at the front. I'm going to see, into the house. What was, I know, I've gone more of the other than, yeah no.

Yeah, no. Yeah, no. But, yeah, I mean, and I, I tell, maybe more the other more things that I don't live,

I think of a two, three days me passed a very interesting, that I'd like to

get to let him to get to that person not, no, no embon with that

situation. What do you think, so if we're able for a second episode,

and me despido with a little anecdote that me told some

some some there there a person who I'm said,

I've I've a situation very macabra with a person that

is a contact with an angeles. I'm to tell this anecdote for all the

people who the other to affect your questions. Are you things that are things that are things that

are things that are going to this person me said. I thinkia much in that but one day

I entered the doubt I've heard those episodes me to the

angels cailed that are the episodes where we have talked about about

the success that apesta, that what they're trying are the

is the they're with the question. So, I'm there's this

angelologist that I know that I'm never messages good, if she

she had contact with demons. And then I'm I'm I'm a question,

ohie, you only contact with angels, and me say, yes.

And me says, Angel Caj and me don't say, too,

they're saying, too, so So then I did know that I know how many

times because that that's a not a very much that's having to be with angels

cailed, but I'm the idea that are angels, and so, and I said, I'm,

I, and I said, I'm, really, I'm paniqueed because I know what that may

to happen or what going to happen, or what I'm, like, I've been

in the last six years, for trat with these people, no? So,

If there are some there's some there's I'm I've said,

I've said a second a second came a hacker that we're about

we're a technique of manipulation that occurs in all and it

is envuel mugger with a very very and

put a name precious but why why is

doing that why not he's and I've been with

Why? Because if no, no, it's simple. And if I I say, if I don't know the things

directs how are, nobody would be there. But, of this manner, I'm not

I'm probably not quite because it's like a wayco legal, because if I'm

saying the between lines, but so so they're doing a selection of information

that they're that they're that they're that they're

in this world of the paranormal or supernatural the spirituality,

have your precautions, and manage with a good in your criteria in what they want to care you know,

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