Sacha Baron Cohen
00:00 At exactly 11.14 p.m., Kelsey DiMarco was not walking to buy chips and pop to power an all-nighter before her exam, so she did not break off the heel of her left boot, and she did not then stumble into trash bins, full of raccoons, only to be spotted by her ex-boyfriend Jean-Francois. Instead, Kelsey skipped it, and with the Skip app had her chips and pop delivered, allowing her to study and totally rock her midterm. Smart move, Kels. Skip to the good part. In 2002, Ryan Wedding was an Olympic snowboarder at the top of his game. Ryan's style is really gunned and gold. And in less than a minute, it slipped away.
00:41 But he continued to chase the high. Ryan James Wedding, he controls one of the most violent drug trafficking organizations in this world. I'm Michelle Shepard and from CBC Podcasts and the Toronto Star, The Most Wanted Olympian. The Most Wanted Olympian, available now on Spotify. Do people constantly want to do their versions of my wife to you? My wife. You can do it. I just did it.
01:06 That was it. That was it. You didn't give it the whole thing. Come on. My wife. My wife. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins.
01:23 Hey, guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad Confused. Today on the show, a first-time guest. A very unique comic mind. Sasha Baron Cohen is on the podcast for the very first time talking about Ollie G, Borat, Bruno, and so much more.
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02:24 both super fun, let alone together. That combo will be epic. I'm very, very excited for that one. Also, hugely excited about this. Been trying to get him for a while. David Corrin's sweat. Superman himself will be on the podcast for a live taping of Happy Sank Infused in early December at the 92nd Street, Y, New York City. If you're in New York, get your tickets now because we are not only talking to David, but we're screening his new film, Mr. Irrelevant, which I've gotten a chance to see, is fantastic, tells a true story, a uplifting but also quite sad, true story, a sports story about a giant's
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03:22 because you get the early inside info on all those live events and discount codes and all sorts of fun stuff. Okay, let's talk about the main event. this was a live event actually. This was with Sasha Baron Cohen, who, as I say in this conversation, is kind of just like one of one. There are really not many that do it like him. I guess you could say someone like Nathan Fielder
03:43 has kind of learned, you know, actually he, I believe he wrote for, for Sasha on one of his shows way back when in terms of putting these kind of like fictional or absurd characters out into the universe, but even Nathan doesn't do the extremes that Sasha does. Of course,
04:01 Ollie G was like the OG. That was the original character that made a big splash 20 plus years ago. And then there was Borat, which was a phenomenon, both in 2006, when the movie came out then,
04:13 of course, in 2020, when the sequel came out, he's been Oscar nominated for both of those films. And then Bruno, of course, in the mix, the dictator, all his acting work
04:23 in the likes of, you know, lay Ms. and Sweetie Todd and, And Aaron Sorkin in the trial of Chicago 7 for which he got an Oscar nomination for his acting. He's really a singular talent. And I never had a chance to interview him actually as Sasha.
04:40 Ironically, I've interviewed him as his characters when he's like fully immersed in character. But this was the first time I got to know the real Sasha. And he was fantastic. He really doesn't do, A, he doesn't do a lot of long form. B, he doesn't do live events actually ever. And so this was a real treat. This was a sold out event in New York. city. 800 plus folks were out there. And this one has it all because we get serious, to be
05:05 honest. There's like some really serious conversation about the issues that Sasha is dealing with in this movie, the questions he wanted answered in making this latest Ali G movie. And also, of course, his approach to comedy generally. He is at his heart kind of a clown, an absurd, very funny man, but has this very intellectual side. So this interview kind of has all the good things. Everything I like in an interview in that it is both smart and silly. I mean, yeah, the whole package. So I'm so thrilled this one happened.
05:39 I think you guys are going to dig this one. Check it out. I take you now to a live event at the 9 2nd Street Y. And I should say, by the way, the film, I haven't even mentioned the film's name. It's Ali G. Who is I? So check that out. Support the creative mad mind.
05:54 That is Sasha Baron Cohen's. And in the meantime, enjoy this conversation. with me and Sasha. Here you go. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the 92nd Street Y. Thank you for selling out the 90 Second Street Y tonight, guys. You're awesome. My name is Josh Horowitz. I host a podcast called Happy Second Views. You're inside of it right now, whether you knew it or not. Thank you for coming out tonight. I know why you sold out this venue tonight. We've got an amazing actor, satirist, director. He's one of one. Sasha Baron Cohen is my guest tonight.
06:28 Are you ready for this, guys? There is truly no comp for what this man does. He devotes a thousand percent of himself into every role, putting these insane fictional characters into real-life circumstances. Literally no one else does it like him. Obviously, we know him from Borat, from Bruno. But the original, the OG, is, of course, Ali G. And Ali G, I'm happy to say, is back.
06:53 You're absolutely going to love the new film. Ali G., who is I? there's no way to say that like any cooler than that right um please make him feel welcome i think it's this first time at the 92nd street why guys it's sasha barren kohen everybody there he is this is great i love it there's no jews here right okay i can talk freely we're going to go one by one all 800 of you jew or not a jew that's a nice way to start do you want to take up a residency You're here, okay. We're in row one.
07:48 We're already at 10. Okay. Sasha, thank you so much for doing this. Congratulations on all the things, including this new insane. Wait a minute. Move out of the way. What do we got? Somebody snapping shots in the back.
08:01 Put me off already. Let's restart. Hey, Sasha. I didn't see you there. Hi. Hey. Thank you for having me. Thank you Jews of New York.
08:15 I love you. That's basically it. I'm going to make you feel good tonight. That's it. It's a love fest. They love you. You love them. Here's the funny thing. I was saying this to you backstage. I have interviewed you a number of times over the years. I have never met Sasha Baron Cohen, though, technically speaking. I think we have an image. Can I show an image of me and Sasha? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was in 2012, I think, right?
08:45 That was the dictator. I you know we're driving over here we drove past the United Nations and that movie I don't have anyone seen it I'm gonna do that a few times I don't know and there's a massive scene in the United Nations and so we met up with the committee there the protocol committee and we gave in the script they were interested they read the whole script and eventually they came back and they said you are not allowed to shoot inside the United Nations. And we said, why?
09:25 They said, well, your movie is anti-dictatorship. And we're like, what? Well, we represent dictatorships and democracies, and we don't want to really take a side. So we ended up rebuilding the General Assembly. Oh, that's easy to do, I hear. We ended up like $15 million over because of them. Is it, because the first part of your career, you really didn't do much of this at all.
09:54 You didn't do any of this. You never talked as yourself to the media. Yes. Are you comfortable now in your own skin? No. This is the character of a slightly pretentious English lodi dardy toff. With a few bits of Yiddish thrown in. And I'm a horror.
10:15 If I went back in a time machine to childhood, Sasha Baron Cohen. If I met the parents, the family, the friends, was it all there if I had seen you at five or six? Were you an extrovert? Were the seeds there for what you became? I don't think so. Let me think back. Time machine. Not really. I mean, I did speak in voices. Okay. imitating people on the screen, friends, family? Not that much. I was not that obnoxious. I don't really like little kids that do all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. I was studious. I played cello. My first appearance was playing cello on a TV show. And I was hoping for a little clap there. I'm basically here just massaging my ego. This is just, this is for me. It's a little of me. Clap for every single answer of his tonight, please.
11:07 And I don't know. I think, yeah, played a bit of cricket, a bit of concord. I don't think there was anything that remarkable about me. And then I became at the age of 11, maybe the connection with this was I suddenly saw somebody do the robot. And I was like, that is amazing. And I started learning how to do the robot and starting to do breakdancing. So this was 1981, 1982. Right. And I became a breakdancer, a bee boy.
11:39 Yeah. And obviously I was a white Jewish kid. I would go down to this place called Covent Garden. and we had some linoleum, we'd spread up and do backspins. And in those days, it was the beginning of hip-hop. And, of course, I was this white, Jewish middle-class kid. And the dancing was a, we would do battles. So we would battle against the local groups there.
12:04 And it was, you know, I'd do that. I was 11, and there's some big guys battling me, and it was no violence, and it was amazing. Did you want to go pro? Was there a path to an actual life? livelihood through beatboxing breakers? There was not. There was not.
12:17 But I did earn money. And I started doing bemitzaas as well as doing the thing. And I remember I was listening to at that time, there was no kind of hip-hop channel. Thank you. Mystery beverage for Mr. Baron Cohen. Coffee. There it is. And I was listening to there were pirate radio stations.
12:44 There was a particular DJ that I was listening to that I was sure was black and American. And I went to one of his gigs. I was 11 years old. And I see this guy and I'm looking for him. I go, where is he? And I suddenly heard his voice and looked up behind the decks was this white middle class son of a bishop. And that was the origins of Ali G. I thought this is hilarious.
13:11 And he was this, what we call now cultural. appropriate. I didn't know what the term was then, but I knew it was funny. You would become familiar with that term a little bit over the years. Yes. Yes. It screamed at me when I walked down the street. So when that character, and that character first appeared on the 11 o'clock show, do I have that right? Was it an immediate hit? Did Allee G immediately resonate back home? So I had been developing Ball Rat actually for the BBC. It was, and if the BBC are watching this now, they might actually sue me because it had a different name then and Borat was from Albania.
13:52 So I want to apologize to the people of Kazakhstan for the first time ever. Because Borat has got nothing to do with Kazakhstan. Borat's nation changed continually dependent on which channel was paying for him. So I would just say, oh, that character's in the BBC. I've got a completely new character. This guy's called Alexei Krickler. He's from Moldova. So it jumped around and then finally when we did it on HBO,
14:22 I needed another place because HBO suddenly owned it. And I was like, where is a place that no one knows anything about? Kazakhstan. So guys, Kazakhstan is out there. Maybe some of you have been sent here. On a specific mission, I'm asking you to have bought that mission. I mean no harm. I respect your people, your culture.
14:46 Please do not take it personally. And in fact, when I first started doing Borat, there was a complaint quite rightly from the Kazakh embassy. And I read it and it was like, how dare you? I'm going to, I'm going to do. And Kazakhstan is out there. I apologize. I cannot do your accent.
15:06 I don't know your accent. You look nothing like Borat, right? I mean, it's next to Mongolia. Nothing like Borat, but I'm going to do Borat's accent because my knowledge of central Asian accents is limited. So I will, please do not be offended, Kazakhstanis. I mean, nothing but respect. Dear Mr. Korn, why does your character have a moustache like this? Kazakhstanis do not have a mustache, etc., etc.
15:42 And the reality was it had nothing to do with Kazakhstan and everything to do with the ignorance of the people I was speaking to who could believe these crazy things would happen in a place they'd never heard of. Isn't it yet? That was a very long answer. It was great, though. Does everybody want to do? It was good. It was good. Thank you.
16:07 Thank you. Every little clap. We are on a roll. It's nice for me, but it's good for you. We're sharing the love. We're going to make each other feel good. At the end of this hour, you're going to think like there's no anti-Semitism outside. This is basically the whole world.
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17:26 In 2002, Ryan Wedding was an Olympic snowboarder at the top of his game. Ryan's style is really gunned and gold. And in less than a minute, it slipped away. But he continued to chase the high. Ryan James Wedding. He controls one of the most violent drug trafficking organizations in this world. I'm Michelle Shepard and from CBC Podcasts and the Toronto Star, The Most Wanted Olympians.
17:50 The Most Wanted Olympian, available now on Spotify. Before we come to Allie G's return, I want to talk briefly of Allie G back in the day because obviously a lot of it was putting Ali G with these brilliant luminaries, you know, the Sea Everett Coops, the politicians, etc. And then this, I wouldn't call a brilliant luminary, but a luminary, Donald Trump. And thus a great friendship was born. You guys have been tied ever since. Very close. Very close. I was very happy about that.
18:26 What was your read on him leaving that room that day? Well, so again, as Ali G, I had the privilege of sitting with some of the smartest people in the world and some of the most powerful people in the world, and all of them were punctual. Donald Trump kept us waiting for about 40 minutes, and I could hear him in his office, and he was like, get me the mayor! That's the worst Donald Trump thing. It's the equivalent of my Kazakhstan impression. And he gets Giuliani on the phone, and he's shouting at him and screaming at him,
19:04 expletives that I will not use for your delicate Jewish ears. And I was intimidated. I was intimidated. He came in, and I was intimidated by this guy. He's a big guy. And later on, I heard that he used to do that with other people. So he actually wasn't really. That was the power move.
19:25 That was, yeah. But it really was a power move. And then he came in and we had this very handsome, blonde, Oxford educated director. Hello. Hello there. Hello there, Mr. Trump. And he was very excited. It's good-looking, you know, handsome, upper-class English guy called James Bobin.
19:43 And he goes, okay, let's do the interview. And he goes, no, that's the interview. He looked down, and I'm saying that, I was like, yo. Immediately the face drops. That was your technique with most of these, right? Like it was the redirect. Yeah, and then I actually met a woman who was in the car with him after that interview. And he was apparently furious.
20:07 And he actually went out publicly a couple of times to criticize me. And in the end, we used all those clips and used them to advertise another show that I did. So thank you, President Trump. But it's interesting looking at that. now, and it's going to bring me on to my theme, that there is no black and white, and the world is a little bit complicated. And that is, looking at that now with fresh eyes, there are a couple of, obviously, he is very misinformed, right? Human beings were not around for millions of years. That is a fact. Perhaps 300,000 years. When they started doing business, they did not trade
20:52 in rocks. Perhaps on the flintstones. But historians and archaeologists imagine that it was probably salt. But he says a couple of interesting things here.
21:08 Number one, which is intelligent. Music, it might be actually something that everybody loves. And the second thing was the non-trip ice script. It was not a bad idea. So there are elements of brilliance to him. I mean, how has he survived, you know, second term, people underestimated him.
21:28 And I think we were too easy to dismiss him as a nincompoop where, and I will be using odd English words like nincompoop. But, you know, there are elements of brilliance to him. Otherwise, and that explains his appeal with the fact that he's there for a second term, the fact that he's transforming this country. We won't say positively or negatively. Who are these people holding coffee cups? Are these Sudaka boxes?
21:59 Is this Yom Kippur? Because I meant to give. I put the thing through the hole, but I couldn't find my card. Okay, they are... We're taking up a collection for these. Are they eunuchs holding like the end of the last emperor? holding their genitals as they're thrown away and asked to leave the forbidden city.
22:26 That's the gift at the end of the night. You get genitals. Hey, congratulations on the new film. It is amazing. Thank you very much. Truly. There are a couple firsts in this. There's some new characters in this that Sasha plays, beyond Ali G. You direct this for the first time, which is very exciting. Whatever. Whatever. I think it's the first...
22:50 I think it's the first comedy that ever begins, ever has begun with a Voltaire quote. I'm not sure I have to fact check that. It is. Why bring Allie G back now? Has this been on your mind for a while? What about 2026 said this is the time? So I can give you the long answer or the short answer. Well, that's a podcast.
23:10 You can get medium. Okay. So the medium answer was, okay, the short answer is this, is that Allie G is a character that cannot exist in 2026. because he's a cultural appropriator because he's so problematic. And that's exactly why I wanted to bring him back. And to bring him back in a way that reveals how we've changed. And the only way you can do that is by introducing two new characters that I play. One is his arch nemesis, who is a guy called Dr. Naira Kane and Degucelo.
23:52 he is he makes aOC look like she's Maga basically that's how work here and he despises Ali G thinks he's the new Hitler and he's currently actually running a campaign to boycott this movie and then on the other end of the political spectrum we have a guy called Colonnairene Morad. I knew that one would go down better here. You found the right audience. And he operates in the world of conspiracy theorists and people who are terrified of the other Islamophobes,
24:36 people who are racist and gets them to do extreme things. And I thought having allergy in the middle, this guy who is deeply problematic, but fundamentally, he's actually a good guy and he believes in increasing the peace he believes in respect and it's something that we've lost
24:57 and he says a few things so he's this naive idiot who has these horrific views but he really does want the world to be better and there's a moment at the end some crazy stuff happens and by the way
25:11 these are the craziest things you will ever see on film right? Yeah and this is they are so crazy. The things you do with yourself in this film, not right. Yeah, well, we can get on to that. But the, you know, they were so crazy that the audiences just didn't believe that it could possibly be true.
25:33 And so we ended up having to stop the movie at one point and go, this is actually happening. Because we, you know, we'd show the audience to go, there's no way this is true. People would not do such crazy shit. And so. we had to actually show behind the scenes footage in the movie. I mean, arguing with my editors going, we're going to put some of the behind scenes documentary inside the movie. It was incomprehensible.
25:57 But at the end of the day, Ali G makes this comment. It becomes wild and violent at the end. And he says, we don't have to kill each other just because we disagree. Right. And it feels like we're in this online world of hatred and faceless. angry people who intimidate us.
26:24 And it's time to put the phones away and be in rooms like this and talk to each other and talk to people we disagree with and find commonality. Yeah. More happy say confused coming up. This episode is brought to you by Wild Horse 9 only in theaters November 6th.
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28:10 in different circumstances, right? You've seen the people kind of cheering on, throw the Jew down the well, and the ones that rebelled against it. Like, I'm happy to hear that you, because you're in the wild, you're seeing these people up close. You at, in 2026, as we sit here today, you have some faith still in our humanity,
28:29 even putting these extreme characters out there. You're seeing that. I have complete faith in humanity. I believe that most people are good. Yeah. Again, listen, I'm not a sociologist, but I've gone on these tours of the US. Bizarrely, the first one was age 19 when I was doing my undergraduate thesis. Then in the Ali G show, then Borat, the first Borat, then Bruno, then Who is America,
28:58 and Borat 2 and now, Ali G, who is I? And what I've realized is that humans really are capable of anything, right? Either incredible empathy or extreme violence. And that depends on a few things. And it depends on the ideas that they are fed. and what I wanted to show the movie I wanted to be absolutely hilarious and we'll get into that
29:31 but I wanted to show the danger of the lies they're being propagated on social media and to investigate this theory of when leaders lie, people actually can die and so the whole last act of the movie is a version of something called the Milgram
29:51 experiment where Should I get into that? Let's do it. Okay, all right, okay. It's getting a little heavy. Okay, so the Milgram experiment, probably a lot of you know about it out there. Professor Stanley Milgram, World War II happens and goes, how the hell did that happen?
30:10 How did the most cultured society in the world, Germany, that produced Wagner and Mozart and incredible artists, how did those people turn into murderers of innocent people? And so he did this experiment, which was basically, had an actor in an electric chair, and they would get in volunteers, they'd have another actor, and sometimes Milgram himself, in a lab coat. And he said, you know, in the interest of science,
30:42 we're going to do this experiment, if they get the answer wrong, turn up the voltage. And it was an electric chair. Once you get to eight, they probably will die. Once you're at nine, they're almost definitely dead at 10. dead and the vast majority of real people when instructed to turn up the dial killed the subjects and so I wanted to see whether we could do that with real people in the real world but real people
31:13 who believed in conspiracy theories right and it was particularly to investigate this new conspiracy theory this new form of racism called the great replacement theory which you've all probably heard about. And we thought, could these people who believe that the white race is under threat, that there's a genocide against white people, could you tell them the most hilarious lie ever? Not just a little lie, a lie that is so absurd that Ali G has got 150,000 children. An absurd lie. And to convince them to convince them to kidnap his girlfriend as a result. And they, I won't say what happens, but that was the experiment. So that is a good reminder that most importantly, it's very fucking funny. It is, yeah. I know we've
32:09 been getting serious, but, okay, there is the vast majority of this film is extremely funny. And there'll be reviews coming out tomorrow ago, I didn't find it funny. The new Ali-G movie is simply not funny. Those reviewers are completely fucking wrong. Let me explain how I know. I have screened the movie 15 times with crowds as big as yours. And what I do is I record the volume of the laughter. If stuff isn't working, I get rid of it.
32:43 I put in new, fancy, funnier jokes. And the jokes that are there, I then tweak them until they are much funnier. So we know empirically that these movies, and this movie is very funny. So if any of you at home, it's science. They go, it's not funny. You could go, Dad. You're wrong. I've seen the data.
33:06 And we will publish the data. Can you rank the intelligence of Borat, Bruno, and Ali G? Their IQ levels. Who's smartest, who's dumbest in those three? Okay, so Ali G is the most stupid person in the world. Okay. Really, I mean, he's a clown. I studied clown, and, you know, the theory of my clown teacher,
33:27 the late grade Philip Golio was, more stupid than this, and you die. So the idea was, literally, if it just one tiny iota, one IQ point less than energy, he would die. Yeah. He would die? Which is not possible to live. Okay, then above him, what do you say?
33:49 Bruno. Bruno Barat. Bruno is stupid. Bruno is superficial and stupid. He is a vacuous twit. He contradicts himself. He is only interested in what is in. And he's obsessed by fashion, which is, let's be honest, an absurd industry.
34:11 They just sell you the same thing again and again and again. So it relies on the Bruno's. But obviously, the Bruno's. movie is, you know, we expose homophobia and that kind of stuff, then I would say Borat is ignorant. Right. He's not stupid.
34:31 Yeah, there's a different. He's physically incapable. Finds it hard to walk around. Even hard to run. Climbing on the stage would probably take a few goes. He'd fall off. He's a clown.
34:46 But he's not stupid. He means well. Besides the horrible things he says about Jews. How often in your wife do people... It become quite popular, those poor have you. Do people constantly want to do their versions of my wife to you? My wife.
35:06 You can do it. I just did it. I just did it. That was it. That was it. You didn't give it the whole thing. Come on. Give it. My wife. My wife. Is there an art to it? Any tips for those trying to to perfect the my wife just give it more just give it more just commit don't don't ever be
35:29 embarrassed that's my advice to everyone out there that was your Jews you don't need that tip well that was actually a question I was going to ask you are do you are you capable of embarrassment I mean in what yes I am what circumstances do you find yourself feeling embarrassed I can be embarrassed and I do I am a human being with human feelings and every time I'm embarrassed to do any of these scenes with real people. I'm terrified. I don't want to do it. I go, what the hell am I doing this stupid thing for? I'm in my 50s. This is ridiculous. I should be playing golf. I'm friendly with Larry David. He goes and plays golf. I go and I go these terribly unpleasant things. I am nervous and I am very embarrassed. But when I'm in character, I'm in the character.
36:22 Because you know, and you've done plenty of roles where it hasn't been this kind of technique, it doesn't have to be this hard, Sasha. You can just be in Martin Scorsese movies, Jud Apatow movies, whatever. But you put yourself through what must be like, I mean, as you alluded to, we see it literally in the credits and interstitials in this film. Just the degree of difficulties met. Yeah, I mean, this is the hardest film we've ever made. We have a man working in this called Rob Legato.
36:51 he won three Oscars. One of them was for Titanic. And he said, he worked at all the Scorsese movies, every difficult movie in history. He said, this is the most difficult movie ever shot. And the last scene really is the most difficult scene ever shot. It's eight hours long. It takes place over 12 locations, 50 miles.
37:14 We had a crew of 200. We have a continuous shot. It's in 1917. That was one and a half hours. This is eight hours. I am in character continually with a fake prosthetic head and a fat suit. There are explosions in it, drones halfway through. Somebody gives birth.
37:38 It is fucking crazy. And we try this scene. And we do it once. Again, hundreds of people. and variety of locations it starts off in that gym that you just saw where he's going
37:57 the immigrants and while I'm in that gym I hear the assistant director goes there's a forest fire that started or a desert fire I don't know what burns in a desert fire anyway it's moving and we have these 12 locations he goes we should move
38:17 we stay we start the mission these guys, by the way, don't know that they're in an action movie, right? They think they're on a mission. They think that they are showing their allegiance. And they were in this Milgram experiment. But they are actually in our movie and they're about to kidnap the girlfriend of Ali G. Because they think it's for the benefit of society. The greater good.
38:43 And basically, we start this thing, we go on the mission, and location four gets surrounded by five. fire and they have to evacuate it. We have bought the mission and we shut down the movie. The scene cost $4 million. And I did go, we're insured, right? We're insured. My line producer said, yes, we're insured. And then she went for a million dollars. And that cost me $3 million, which is why I'm here. Those Shedaka boxes are going to the Barron Cohen Foundation. But yes, it was this stupid, and we finished that scene. We're like, we all got together, me and my tell.
39:24 This is ridiculous. It's collective insanity. Why are we trying to make the most difficult movie ever the hardest thing? Let's give it up. Let's just do what we used in Borough, which is we do a couple of scenes a day. But foolishly, we got back together, we regrouped, and we did the scene again, and it worked. So you have said several times in your career at various points that you've retired. characters and you're saying it again now like how seriously should I take the fact that you're saying like
39:54 Borat is gone forever Ali G is gone forever you're implying that I'm a liar you should take it very seriously so I made this movie you know why make the most difficult movie in history you're right I should not have done I wasted three years of my life because I wanted to show I wanted to make the audience and my fans laugh incredibly hard and incredibly often and have an amazing commonal experience
40:31 and I will do anything to make my fans and those people laugh but also I was scared about the way society is going I didn't want to lecture about it I didn't want to be a kind of celebrity who's on his soapbox. But I was scared about
40:49 the extremes of society the fact that through social media we're spreading these lies that are becoming these shared sets of lies and autocracies
41:05 and dictatorships rely on shared lies and democracies rely on these shared truths So that whole idea of Borat saying, you know, throw the Jew down the well, it's great and it works because the audience at the time go, you know, in my country there is problem and that problem is the Jew, they take everybody's money and they never grieve it back.
41:37 So grab him by his horns. Now, it's funny for the audience because we know the Jews don't have. have horns. And also, we know that the idea of Jews grabbing money is based on a medieval lie, because we were moneylenders, we all know that. But when we get rid of these shared facts and we create new shared lies about Jews or other ethnicities or genders or sexualities, or races, we're in a very dangerous place. And we're in a very dangerous place. And we're in a in this world where conspiracy theories, which used to be incredibly hard to read and hear, are now spread far faster than the truth, right?
42:28 In 2019, I gave this speech, which I really didn't want to do, but I was saying that, and we all know this now, that conspiracy theories and lies spread far faster on social media than the truth. The truth is boring. It's complicated. Nobody wants to hear it. And so that's why I wanted to show, here's the problem, when you hear Mark Zuckerberg or one of these billionaires that own these social media companies say, hey, it's just freedom
42:55 of speech. We're just, it's the algorithm. There's a danger in that, right? This has got nothing to do with freedom of speech. This is inciting racial hatred. This is inciting violence. And this is the biggest propaganda machine in history. And we know where that ends up.
43:14 And that's why I wanted to show that these, we could get intelligent people, and within a matter of hours, if they believe this conspiracy theory, this particular one being about the great replacement, this new racist theory, could we turn them into murderers in the matter of hours? And if we could turn them into murderers, what are the lessons for society? So that's why I made this incredibly difficult movie and it's why I would love it if you watched it. I would guess you've pursued trying to get Zuckerberg on camera over the years. Have you come close to ever trying to, ever getting him in a room with one of your characters? Not Zuck. I mean, very early on I did try and influence him.
44:09 I just thought, oh, he's just a good guy. He doesn't understand that Facebook is doing it. this and actually an email I'd sent, got sent to him and it recently got released. And in it, there was a line that said, you know, we can make Facebook a platform for good like Sasha Baron Cohen and other elitists are suggesting, or we can make it a platform for everyone. In other words, good and evil. And so I never managed to get him.
44:47 I do think there's a responsibility of those, the handful of billionaires that are in control of information. That means they're in control of our minds, right? We are affected by what we see, the visuals, by the information. There is no source of fact anymore that we really trust. And that's terrifying. don't know where we go from here, actually. Can I ask you all, I've got you a little bit about your, it's not a side hustle, but
45:20 like you're acting for other directors. I mean, look at the list of directors that he's worked with, you know, Tim Burton, Martin Scorsese, Aaron Sorkin, Alfonso Coron, Adam McKay. A nice, a nice grouping, an Oscar nomination for Trial of the Chicago 7. Generally speaking, are you, do you turn off a little bit? I mean, obviously, you want to have some, that creative collaboration on it. set but are you good at kind of like toggling it down when there's a Martin Scorsese there not really so you know with Marty I mean he was amazing because
45:55 you know he has no ego those people at the top they have they are complete collaborators and I had an idea for a scene where I have like a metal brace I bet it's this movie called Hugo I'm in this train station I've got this metal brace. The original idea I had actually was because it was one of the first movie shot fully in 3D was I want to have a false leg and for it to run around a corner and the leg to fly off into camera. But it then became a brace and I might actually get in trouble with the ablest community. But anyway, so we were shooting this scene that I came up with, you know, I go, what about, I run around the corner and my leg goes into the double
46:45 base. And in front of his entire crew, he said, this is a comedy scene, Sasha, how do we direct this? And I was like, what? Me? You know, and I just unbore at. And I was like, well, I would, you know, if it was just me, I would do this, this shot. And he said, all right, everyone, let's do those shots. And I realized then the power of collaboration that this guy wanted the movie. It was nothing to do with his ego. And you give that list of directors. And what I really wanted to do was I wanted to be better at my craft. I wanted to learn how to direct. Finally, I directed this movie. And with each movie I did, I tried to pick up tips from all of them. With Marty, he would sit inside a tent and look at these monitors. And I said, Marty, is there any
47:36 way I could just sit behind you, be completely silent? I wasn't silent. Marty, what about you? You're doing great. Marty, well done. You got this. You're going to be great. And I sat there for a few months.
47:53 And then I did a movie with Tom Hooper, Le Miserables. And from him, I learned, normally when you shoot a movie, you start with the Y, then you get to the midshot, and then you get to a close. Tom Hooper starts with the close. And I was like, what? And then I realized it was a brilliant idea because he gets all these actors to win Oscars. Why? He'll do 80 takes until they give an Oscar winning performance.
48:23 I mean, a monkey could give an Oscar winning performance. And then it's like, okay, we'll do the wide and now the midshot. And you're done. And I think probably he gets the highest proportion of Oscars per movie. So that's what I was really doing was working with these. geniuses and thinking, what can I take and use for my own movies? And sometimes I would actually steal crew as well. This guy, Rob Legato, who had worked on Scorsese. We have a four-time Oscar winner, Colleen Atwood, who worked with Tim Burton. So I would always be there going, oh, that one.
49:00 How much will you work for? Join the surface. Would you like to do an eight-hour scene? Exactly. How insane are you? And coming up next, it should be said, some of you might know this, Sasha is going to be making his, I believe it's your West End debut, on stage with Quentin Tarantino, a play that he has written and is directing. The Poppin J. Cavalier. How did this happen? I know that he wanted you for Django way back when. What about the script excited you?
49:30 I guess when Quentin calls, you say, hell yeah. Yeah, when Quentin calls, you say, yupp. So, you know, I think he's the greatest star director around and a lot of other people do. It's not a very original comment. And about 20 years ago, we started meeting up for dinner and he was very interested in the Scarlet Pimpernel. And I was like, oh, that's an interesting genre. And this play really is in that genre of the kind of 1930s, 1940s, swashbuckler movies. And I almost ended up in Django Unchained. I had, they actually built prosthetics for me.
50:13 I ended up having to go and shoot Limit's A Ra Player. I was editing the dictator, and I think the movie was long enough as it was. And, yeah, I called him up once, actually, and in Glorious Bastards, I wanted to be, was it the Jew Catcher? I wanted to play that. And he gave it to some other guy.
50:33 I don't know how it turned out. And then so when he came, and he came to my office and said, you know, I'd read it, and I thought he wanted me to play the villain, everyone always wants to be playing the villain. And he said, what's your favorite character? I go, the villain's pretty good. This French guy's really funny, but my favorite character is the lead. That guy's amazing. He goes, why don't you play him? So that's what I'm doing now. I'm doing about 10 hours a week of sword fighting lessons. Amazing. Sword and dagger. A Jew with a sword.
51:10 The last guy was, you know, David. No, he had a sling. They didn't trust him with a soul. It was soul. And it's that... But Sheba. But Sheba for the Torah Scholars. And that delicious, one-of-a-kind Tarantino dialogue, we're going to...
51:24 Yeah, it's fantastic. I will probably ruin it and may get skewed on stage, but it's definitely good fun. I mean, will that be like... Again, we kind of talked about what fear, if there is any, in your work, like, stepping on to a stage for... for that kind of run, is that fill you with a little bit of anxiety? Yeah, yeah, that's going to be terrifying, particularly because there are swords.
51:46 And all my tutors, the sword masters, they all have terrible scars. Like, all of it's, I go, is this safe? They go, they go, it's unlikely you'll get in. I wouldn't mean unlikely. What about like
52:02 100%? Yeah, you have one eye. What's going on? Like one arm. Yeah. And, yeah, they like that Monty Python. Exactly. They go, it's unlikely. They go, you know, the issue is it's a long run.
52:15 It's seven months in the West End in London. And they go, after three months, people get sloppy. I go, this is not what I want to hear, but I've already committed. And I, my sword fighting will be good. Obviously. I think there's about 40 people fighting with swords and daggers on stage. Again, Kazakhstan is out there. I have nothing but respect for you, for your country.
52:40 or I had nothing to do with you. I know you're a wonderful people. Please do not send any of your actors undercover to play one of those. I apologize. Now is the time. You also joined the MCU. Mephisto. This was like rumored
52:56 for a thousand years that Mephisto was going to join and then look who it ended up being, the great Sasha Barrett. You know, it was wonderful. So Mephisto is kind of the devil, right? Based on Mephistopheles. and it was a wonderful meeting when I was offered it. So it was a primarily, I think almost entirely black producing and directing team. And they said, we want to offer you Mephisto, but we are aware of the negative association of Jews historically with the devil.
53:32 And we want to make sure that you're not insulted by us offering this. And I thought it was such an amazingly considerate empathetic thing to say. And I was like, yeah. I'm good. Yeah, but it was an amazing experience. I thought that kind of empathy, and I think for the Jews out there, sometimes we don't feel seen. We don't feel like people can empathize with us that we are suffering to.
54:00 and so to have this entirely black producing and directed team be so empathetic. It was just like a moment of being seen. I thanked them and I had the most incredible experience making it. That goes back to me. You referenced your first visit to America way back when was kind of studying the civil rights movement and the role of Jews in the black civil rights movement at the time, right?
54:27 So I was 19 years old. I was in university. and it was time to do a thesis. So I had two options. One was to study something to do with Poland and Jewish history in Poland. And one, I had this idea of
54:42 looking into something called the Jewish Black Alliance. And the idea was, at that time, in the 60s, the Jewish community and the Black community got together and helped each other, essentially, in the Jewish Black Alliance. And I ended up choosing that.
55:00 I got a grant of, I think, $500. And I ended up for a month going around different places in the US, meeting up with old civil rights leaders. I met amazingly with one of the heads of the civil rights movement, a guy called Robert Moses, Bob Moses, the head of SNCC, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. And I was investigating this phenomenon that Jews were about 30 times.
55:30 more likely than average white people to be involved in the black civil rights movement. And yet there was very little written about it. And it actually brings me back to this movie because my thesis was called the Black Jewish Alliance, a case of mistaking identities. And it was all really about identity politics
55:49 about who we see ourselves as and how people perceive us. So there are these a murder of three people, Schwerner, Cheney and Goodman. For those of you who've seen Mississippi burning, it starts with that murder. And two of them were Jews, and one of them was black. Cheney was black.
56:10 Schwerner and Goodman were Jews, obviously. Jewish name, Schwerner, Schwerner, Goldman, you know. Where are you? And this became the symbol of the black Jewish alliance. Like, our blood was mixed. murdered by the KKK. And the phenomenon was at the end of the 60s, there was a sense that the black community had turned on the Jewish community, and it was a betrayal. It was also organizations
56:43 like SNCC, the student and violent coordinating community, the Panthers. And so I wanted to look into that. And what I basically concluded from that was, even though Jews were disproportionately involved, there was no, my argument was there was no black Jewish alliance because to be in an alliance, you have to know that you're in an alliance. And these Jews, they'd be in churches in Mississippi and in the south for the freedom rights. And what the evidence that I found was that the black activists had no idea that the white people amongst them were Jews. So I sat down with this guy. They're one of the heads of the civil rights movement. Let's talk about the Black Jewish Alliance,
57:31 Mr. Moses. And he said, what Jews? I didn't know anything about Jews. I went through all the members of the leadership, the white leadership. I go, this guy, Jewish. Jaime Sri Lovsky. Khami Shrilovsky
57:47 is Jewish? Net! You know, anyway, I'm going to do some Jewish names. And then, he had no idea because they were perceived this white and you see this example of you know you see Heschel marching with Martin Luther King and you know he's got us then they realized they were Jews you know carrying a safer Torah a Yamaka on top a beard then yeah we're Jews I think that's a Jew yeah yeah sure but these
58:16 they had no idea that the people in the room were Jews right so amazing um obviously an informative moment for your life and career uh we do have some questions from our lovely audience. Max V wants to know how is it possible that people still don't recognize you when you prank them? Do you ever feel that in the moment? Like you're kind of like you see them sussing you out? So we have a very big crew who do advance prep and it's extremely difficult.
58:47 So in England, Alley G is very well known. I mean, Alley G is so well known that the mother of the queen, the queen Martha, was a fan. And according to Prince William and Prince Harry, at a Christmas dinner, the queen asked her mother, how was lunch? And she said, Wiyakasha! They literally, Prince Harry and William, literally told that story. That's insane. Yeah. So, to make this movie, there's a scene with the doctor.
59:18 You saw him. And we had to interview, the research team had to interview 1,300 doctors until, you were, they found somebody who didn't know who allergy was. So that's also a reason why it takes so long. And then when I'm in the room, also, I'm sussing them out. If they are suspicious, they leave, you know. Peggy and Ed want to know which of your characters? Peggy and Ed?
59:40 Peggy and Ed. Which of your characters is most like you? Well, when I started doing Alligy, I was unemployed, and my parents had stopped giving me money. So I started wearing Alligy's clothes out and about. They're very comfortable. So I kind of looked like Allie G.
01:00:04 Which one is most like me? I would have to really know who I am to answer that. So I'm going to pass. There's a little bit of a clap, but then you realize there's nothing to be proud about. The guy has no self-awareness. What the hell is he doing on stage talking to us? A guy who doesn't know who he is.
01:00:28 So quite rightly, you clap. What are they... There it is. All right. There it is. Who knows why they're clapping, but it's good. It's a good feeling. Does that spread the love?
01:00:37 Increase the peace, increase the peace. Spread the love. Spread the love. What are the strangest offers you get for your characters? Do you get like, oh, officiate the wedding, do the bar mitzvah, do the voicemail? I mean, you must get such insane. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get a lot of the mitzvah's weddings.
01:00:56 Actually, there was once... So the first five of... five or six years, nobody knew what I looked like. Nobody knew what, nobody knew about these punning them. They had no idea. And so there were a lot of allergy impersonators. And I had one guy once came up to me in a club and he goes, listen, I, I go, you look like me. He goes, I am an allergy impersonator.
01:01:21 He goes, but everyone thinks I'm allergy. They don't know. It's not you. And he goes, I do all. the gangsters in England. And I go, what? He goes, yeah, I do the craze. I do all the mafia. So this guy was performing to the English mafia. Sure. I go, this seems like a very bad idea. He goes, they love you. They love you. I go, no, they love you. Yeah. Please do not piss them off. So looking ahead, we know you're going to be in the West End next year. I'm going to come in
01:01:55 month six of Papinjade because I really want to see you. I will probably not have ears I will have the tiniest nose Sasha are you going to be unconventionally someone knows who have I'm not going to make any racial stereotypes for the Jews out there
01:02:11 that makes an assumption there are any Jews out there we have no idea exactly are you going to be we know there's some real joke oh my God this guy here like a tall Josh Gad is this guy Safavis
01:02:25 Safari Safari this guy asleep or just no no no just in the mind nice to see you you enjoying yourself not really come see oh hello I love you very little it's the beginning of your bad work special it's exciting am I going to see Mephisto again there's some as a nerd I hear ghost writer that you might return ghost I have no idea I actually don't know I don't.
01:03:08 Okay. All right, we'll see. We end every happy, say, and fuse with profoundly random questions, Sasha. You ready to do you? Please, please. Dogs are cats. I grew up with cats.
01:03:20 Okay. Give it up for cats. I had a cat called Tiger. I grew up from the age of two with Tiger. One time I came back from university, and my late father said, he goes, are you upset about Tiger? I go, what?
01:03:35 I'm the Tiger. He goes, you know, that he's dead. that we put him down. I go, no one told me that you put down my, you know, my cat that I've been with from the age of two. What a way to find out.
01:03:48 I found out, yeah. It was harsh but fair. What do you collect? I used to collect stamps as a child. I don't know why. I thought they'd be a fantastic investment. And I actually, I put them into chat, GPT,
01:04:04 and I used to get these first-day covers. And the first-day cover, know, you'd have like 35p, 25p, you know, the grand total there would be about a pound. Right. They're worth about a pound 12 now. It was the worst investment ever. Just be patient. They're going to go up.
01:04:19 Favorite video game of all time? Call of Duty. Bizarly I got into on the first Ali G show, and the graphics were terrible, but it got very into it. It was very good to distract me. But I'm aware of the fact that it incites violence, and I don't play it now. I had to lock away my PlayStation. Dakota Johnson asked me this.
01:04:45 I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt? Say that again? Sorry, there are a lot of things. A lot of a lot happened there. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one singular bee in your butt?
01:05:03 Mouthful of bees. A bee in my butt? Yeah. You get stung once? It's like the easiest day on a Chasha Baron Cohen said, I feel like. That's nothing. Yeah. B, yeah. Mouth. An arse full of B.
01:05:18 Now you're talking. Both. What's the wallpaper on your phone? The wallpaper on my phone is... I'm not telling you. Wow, look at that. It's mysterious, mysterious. Yeah, a man of mystery. Picture of him, the guy in the mouth. He's not really having a good time.
01:05:41 What do you think? Good time, thumbs up, thumbs down, or average? Yeah, thumbs up. Oh, hey, guys. Let's show yourself, stand up, stand up if you don't mind. Thank you, thank you. I want you to have a good time. I actually want everyone to have a good time. We're gonna get to each and every one of you tonight before we're gonna
01:06:01 I wanted to have a good time. I'm glad you're having a good time. Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? Does it ever happen? Last actor, I used to be mistaken for Pete Samprest, the tennis player. Really? I've had David Blaine. Sure.
01:06:19 And most Jews. Yeah. Actually, a lot of people, wherever I am in the world, other than England, say, oh, my God, you look exactly like my cousin. And for a while, before there was the realization that we had to cast people from their ethnicities in their ethnicity. For a while in Hollywood, every role that was non-American I was offered. So there was a Mexican character in a comedy.
01:06:46 They would come to me. French character, but anyone who was not traditionally... Just ambiguous, ambiguous. Worst note a director has ever given you. Worst note, I've basically worked with great directors. This is the thing. If you look at that list, it's hard. Worst note...
01:07:11 It could also just be in general. It's not helpful. I did a TV show. And this was with... Alfonso Coron and I'm acting with my son and my son is in a coma. He is in a lifeless coma. And at the end of the scene, Quaron goes up to the guy who's been in the coma the whole scene and said, you did a great job, looks at me and walks off. Was that purposeful, we think? We think he was. Yes. Wow. Harsh. And fine.
01:07:48 Oh, disclaimer. It's actually a good show. Good show. Keep on shut. Yeah. In the spirit of happy, second, Fused, finally, who's an actor who always makes you happy. You see them on screen, you're in a better mood. You know what? It was Danny Kay. So I love Danny Kay. Who here knows Danny Kay? Jewish boy, gay.
01:08:08 Apparently he had an affair with Lawrence Olivier. I know that, okay. I saw him when I was eight years old. I came to D.C., my dad, there was some conference, and somehow Danny Kay was there. He was my favorite actor, and I saw him on stage, and I just loved him. The tongue twisters, he was hilarious, he sang, who was gay, in every way. He was, yeah, he was wonderful, so he was my favorite one.
01:08:39 And then, you know, the other guy who made me happy, you okay? Big Danny Kaye fan. Gary Shandling, the late Gary Shandling. who I love and Gary I love you man but he was my mentor when I came to Hollywood he helped with all the movies he actually saved Ballarat the movie because he used to have a basketball game ball out was being shut down I was working with another director who almost got me put in hospital he ended up quitting stroke being fired and the The studio Fox said you got three weeks to get this movie up and running or we're done.
01:09:23 I was this, you know, and basically I went to play at Gary Shandling's basketball game. The basketball game that Gary Shandling had, had Adam Sondlerin, it had Will Farrell, Adam McKay was there, David O'Covney, it was incredible. And we weren't allowed to talk about it at the time. But he's dead now, so I'll tell you about it. And, um... Sorry, Derek. He'd appreciate it.
01:09:47 And basically, I go up, I've got three weeks to get Borat up again, get a new director. And there was no script, no story. There really wasn't. So it seemed impossible. It was impossible. And basically, I go, he's marking me, and I go for a basket. I land, and I land on his foot. I roll my foot, and I hear the popping noise of two tendons.
01:10:16 Are they tendons? Popping. and it was the best thing that happened because suddenly insurance kicked in and for three months I was on crutches and in that time we wrote a story and we
01:10:29 hired Larry Charles and we ended up making a movie that I'm very proud of. Wow. So thank you Gary. We love you and there are so many comedians out there who are indebted him Adam McKay, Sarah Silverman Judd Apatow
01:10:45 that guy never wanted a credit, he wanted to increase the piece. He just wanted to give love and help all of us. He would cut helping the edits be there for every screening, be there for every read-through. He was an incredible mention, incredible guy, so. I've always wondered, and maybe now is not the time that story with that very prominent director that almost directed, that was directing your film. Anything more you want to say with what happened? No, because I want to increase the piece.
01:11:14 Okay, fair enough, fair enough. You can look it up. Offstage, I'll talk. We'll talk. A movie that makes you sad. I think Kramer versus Kramer. Yeah. First time I saw that, man, I was crying.
01:11:31 I was going out with a girl whose parents were divorced, and I suddenly understood how I was like, parents are divorced. I saw it again recently. And oh, Jesus, Dustin Hoffman is what an incredible actor. I mean, you've got to watch it again. That and Tutsi, I watched recently. He's unbelievable. He really is unbelievable. Just the reality of it and the emotion.
01:11:57 And that's why I used to love also, Robin Williams, that ability to, not a Jew, but he could do the voice. He was honorary. Yeah. Oh my God. That ability to make you laugh and then pull it your Kishkas and make you cry, that was something that I found so inspiring. And I love doing it. You said, have I ever done stage? never in the West End, but when I was in university, my speciality was I did Fiddler on the Roof and Serrana de Bergerac. And both of those movies are tragic comedies. The character's hilarious in the first half, and then something awful happens in Serrana de Vergerac. He dies, and the audience just can't handle it
01:12:39 because they're laughing, and they love him, and then you kill him. And it's the same in Fiddle on the Roof. He goes through the hardest, things that a father can go through you know if I been too far I will break if I were rich man yeah
01:13:00 but da-ba-dab-dab-dab-dab-dab-dab-dab-dab-da-bba-dha okay slightly out of tune all right pretty good pretty good but yeah awesome fiddle on the roof he is he you know goes through you know you love him and then everyone starts crying and I love that genre
01:13:17 tragic comedy And finally, most importantly, a food that makes you confuse Sasha. You don't get it. Why do people eat that? I don't really understand chewing gum. Oh, I don't get it. Yeah. I don't really understand it.
01:13:30 I don't see why people. Thank you for clapping. Some supporters. Some people, I thought I was, you agree with that. It's odd. What is it? Are people trying to exercise their jaws? Get rid of double chins.
01:13:42 It doesn't work because I've tried. Yeah. Okay. I find it odd, and you end up sticking it underneath things. We've learned a lot tonight. Don't you think? Yeah. Sasha.
01:13:54 He is, I said it before, I'll say it again. You are one of one. Nobody does it like you. Congratulations on the new film. You guys don't even know what this guy has done. Please, please go and see it on Friday and Saturday night. It's in the theaters for one weekend only, but I want you to see it with people around you.
01:14:13 Because you know, look at the enjoyable experience we have being in a room together. It's science. It's funny. We know for a fact. It is funny. 100%. It will make you think. Absolutely. And be in a room and enjoy yourselves together, please.
01:14:28 Thank you for doing what you do. Give it up one more time. Sasha Barry. Thank you, everyone. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh. You've got your favorite blanket, a freshly,
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