James Bonding - Bonus: A Live And Let Die Tarot Reading

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Veronica Osorio interprets the cards for Alice Wetterlund and the Matts in an attempt to get to some insight into the Bond and Solitaire dynamic, as well as Alice, Matt, & Matt’s futures. And, we consult the deck on the future of Bond 25. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt and Matt and James Bonding Podcasts. Welcome back to James Bonding. My name is Matt. My name is also Matt. We are delivering what we would describe as an oft-promised, rarely realized episode of the show. I know. It's our style to say we're going to do this thing and then not do it. Well, you know, I will say that we occasionally succeed. Many, many months, sometimes years later. And today is a perfect example of that.

And we couldn't have two better people to make this happen here today. I'm mad. I'm also mad. That's right. That's right. We've cloned ourselves into strange extra chromosomal. Something's gone wrong, but I'm okay with it. I'm Matt Myrithstein.

Myristen, I love it. I'm at Myristan. I have a little business over here. and Glendale. And I know a lot about sci-fi and all sorts of things and we have a little

tanning bed in the back. Yeah, we do. Matt works with me. Why don't you tell them about what you do? Well, I work with you. We have a little business in Glendale.

Oh, I'm not well. It's female. It's female. She is female. The business is, is female? She is. What's a gendered business?

Oh, wow. Well, it's like a ship. You know when you have a ship that's a woman? I do, yeah. Have you ever ridden on a man's ship? I do not recommend it. It was not good. I do not recommend.

Bumpy ride. You really wanted a female. And it's so stubborn. It always thinks it knows where it's going. I never wants to ask directions. They don't come with a navigational system is what that means. Anyway. Clone Matt.

Thanks for being here. Clone Matt, Clown Matt Myra is Alice Wedderland. Hello, that was a joke. Oh. She's cloned herself into an English person. Hello. Oh, God, I have to stop.

My name's Alice. And clone Matt Gorely is Veronica Osir. I'm Mike Gorley, and I am Veronica Osor. Thank you. And we have a podcast called Treks in the City that you may also listen to sometimes. Yes. Yes. That both Matt and I have been on.

That's true. That's correct. Yes. Although you're hearing this, my episode has yet to come out. That's how this whole thing happened. I was on it yesterday and we inked a podcast crossover the next day. Yeah.

What's coming out first? This one? Oh, interesting. So you get to hear the origin of this wonderful encounter. Nearly two-hour encounter. But we wanted someone to handle. We did not cover the episode of Saturday. No, we really covered everything else.

In Cep. Head over to whatever the hell mine is called. Star Trek TNC. I forget what it's called. Star Trek the next conversation. Fucking Christ. Wow. There's too many podcasts.

There are too many podcasts. It's my to listen to to. To understand all the ins and outs of Star Trek the next generation. And we have them covered here in this room. You go there for the fun and the bits. Yeah. You slide over for the nerdiness. That covers all the bases.

It really is. And then you come to James Bond for a little bit of both. Yeah. James Bond. Trek's in the city is just a delightful. I had such a. Should it be a good time? And I know we went long.

The next conversation is very informative. It's too informative. And very valuable. Eh. To me. This is a diplomatic summit. Oh, not now. If you guys pass us then.

Do you guys have 4.5 stars? Or 5 stars. We have 5. We have 4.5. Well, if you want that half star extra, all you got to do is bribe your audience. What do you guys do about? We have something called the Admirals Club. Oh.

Oh, my God. Where you're just like, you're surprised. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not on this podcast. It's the finest airport lounge in all of Starfleet. And you're only allowed in if you leave a five-star review. That. And if you do leave a five-star review, I will, we will read it on the year.

Wait, do you actually give people passes to the Admirals Club because I do, that is a real thing. Oh, okay. You should print up a little ID cards. Let's give people passes to their club. Yes. It's a good idea. I don't hate it. It's a good idea.

Yeah, right? Look, you want to use the Air Force. Go for it. Yeah. You're thinking of us five stars, we put them in their club. You're thinking with both the left and the right brain right now. I think the easiest for me. Yeah. I could offer our audience promotions.

They're all, you know, they're lieutenants, usually. But they could be promoted to lieutenant commanders if they leave a five-star review on checks in the city. This is, I'm going to fix this review. That's a five-star review exchange program. That's good. I like it. Get them pips? I know how to get pips.

Good. Look, I got a guy. I got a guy. I got a pip guy. Who's your pip guy? Yeah, he, uh, it's a guy I know. he lives in Englewood. Yeah, he's got a little place.

Yeah, it's got a little machine shop. It's where I go to recycle my batteries. That's how I met him. And, yeah, the guy is great for Pips. Wait, the Pips do look like watch batteries. I've never put that together. Oh, shit. They're called Pips.

What are Pips? Pips are the Rang insignia on the collar. But, okay, so like, like, Pips. Pips, yeah. She called them Pips. Like our little, the little dots on a die are called Pips. So that's just a term for little circles. And seeds are called Pips in England.

Oh, little circles. And there's a character in great expectations with a PIP. Called PEP? Called PIP. Alice just saluted the London clock. What about PEP talk? That's PEP. You can't do that.

Because I was like, wow, you guys. You've got an extra names for stuff. What? What do you want me to repeat? See, he's doing the Venezuelan thing. I didn't understand what you remember. by PEP so I was doing the double nose scrunch that I learned about It was a podcast.

It looked very weird but I got it. That's how you described Bajorans, I assume. Yes! That's what it came from. Okay, that's where he came from. Yeah. But Venezuela wants to do this gesture. And it means what?

If you say something and I miss it, I go. It's a facial tick. It looks like you're sniffing something. Yeah, it's like a little twit-to-twit. It's half. Did you guys cover how ridiculous. This is a little Star Trek minute. How ridiculous.

it was for Riker to be like, take that off. But like, Worf gets to wander around with his fucking cling on sash. I know. Almost goes about saying, but it's like, so insane. It is insane. Well, I would wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Worf is in a command position, whereas she's an ensign. Yeah, but she's in the command program.

She's in a red uniform. Didn't they call her an officer? She's a bridge officer? Is an ensign an officer? Yes. It is? There's crewman, you know, like Chief O'Brien, technically. What's a yeoman? I remember Yoman Janus for me.

also a original. Janice Rannes. Yoman were the guys who kept like track of, like, just basically the assistants. They give you like, you have an 8 a.m. Ship minutes. What do we think of Yoman as a baby name? I don't. What about yo woman?

Yeah, a woman. Very woke. Very woke. Very 2019. Listen, the reason we're all here, we're bearing the lead is that we needed an expert on tarot cards. And Veronica, I believe I've looked up your credentials, but I'm prepared to take it on faith. Zero credentials. That you have the second site.

You can travel back and forward in time. You can manipulate the continuum. You can handle these cards, certainly. And so Alice, Matt, and I are going to have our fortunes read? I know nothing about tarot cards. I'm a hard line skeptic, and I'm ready to dive into this. But this, so, okay, yes, okay, I'm ready to. I'm excited.

But this, and I can't travel back and forth in time. I just cannot stop in the place where I want to be. So right now you're not here or this is just a place you don't want to be. This is the only place I can stop. Just believe me, I travel in time. I just can only stop here. She keeps stopping at podcast recordings. Wow, what an existence.

I would be so annoyed. What an existence. This is all I'm doing. Oh, my God. But before we begin, I have to present something. Matt, I have a gift for your baby. Oh, it's about time. Whoa.

Whoa. It is as described. I'm holding a onesie. It's a 007 and it's licensed to spill. And it is baby blue. Yeah. The color, the color of bond.

The onesie is not adult size. It's baby size. For now. I wish, man. I've put one of those on. You'd better believe I'd go to Trader Joe's in that. This is. No, my media tell you that you got to be that size.

Oh, my God. It's trademark. This is an official. Oh, nothing about the best for you, honey. Nothing but the official license for you. Not an Etsy purchase from Jane in Ohio. Yeah.

No, not a Society 6th and unlicensed in a bunch. I love it. Let me just, first of all, say the following statement. When I was on track in the city, I had my taro read by the high priestess herself. And she predicted our baby. Henry.

Straight up was there. I was there. She predicted. It's there. It's weird. It's a baby. So, like, literally you said you're going to have a baby? Well, you ask the taro question.

I didn't want to say something, a statement that bold, but the card that came out was the Ace of Pentacles and it was like, that's a baby. That's a baby. That's now, I might have some questions. Okay. Cool. Am I pregnant? Well, you're not. No.

I said no. Yeah. Well, come on. No card needed. Let the card say. Let me just. Good baby. What are you are?

Where you are? Take one, man. I can tell you. the lovers. No. What is it? High priestess. Oh.

Well? You might be pregnant with a girl. That means that only you know. But that was from Matt. So I don't. I don't need it from a nash. The littlest amount of thought. Not like,

he's like, here's the ghost, and when I was on track of the city, as I want to do, I really enjoy looking up things on the internet. So I said, let me look for this 007 tarot deck because Veronica,

I thought, deserved a gift. It was very, nice, yeah. What a long time for you to receive it because it shipped to my house and then I haven't seen you guys since. I have like three of those gifts that are still sitting in his house. Really?

Yeah. It's like, it's interesting because then I forgot, I was like, I received the gift when you bought it. Yeah. I was like, thank you. And then forgot all about it. And now it's happening again. So I'm like, what a great occasion. Double thank you.

Yeah. Yeah, that's good. So you have an official James Bond tarot. deck. This is very exciting. That was released in 1970. It must have come out

when the movie came out. I don't know. I think it came out in, there's so much packaging to do with it. Oh, you have another one. It's also a game. 73. It's not.

That's my birth year. Yeah. U.S. Game Systems Inc. 23 of May. The 22 May card is a number of 1 to XX. My birthday.

Oh, I thought you were looking at the copyright day. No, no, no. But I remember your birthday. Oh, thank you. I do things like that. It's just because you said you're Gemini.

Six, six. Done. Six, six. That's your birthday. Yes. It's coming up. It's coming up. Happy early birthday.

Thank you. And happy late birthday, Alice. Thank you. Oh my God, you've aged a lot since your birthday. Wow. What happens is I lose bone weight. Plus an unnumbered card known as the fool. I like how they phrase things.

1970. Did they say the description on there is that the tarot cards are profusely illustrated, which I think is one of the weirdest ways to say something. They just went, oh, oh, my God. Coloring inside. Includes profusely illustrated instruction book by Stuart R. Kaplan, leading tarot authority, the only complete and authentic guide that's actually too much. What are his credentials?

It's a bit much, really. So this deck is called the Fergus Hall. And so they include it, I don't know, this is like a separate deck. It's funny when people use, like, tarot in movies. because I'm always like, okay, okay, are they saying it correctly? Are they even like understanding what they're saying? Is it fake? And you just mentioned something about this movie and the lovers?

Yes. Well, I would be curious to get your whole take on it. So the basic story is there's the character named Solitaire, who's a young woman, who's a tarot card reader. And she's kind of like the kept woman of the bad guy, Mr. Cananga, or Dr. Cananga. and Bond uses a stacked deck of tarot cards to be all the lovers to convince her to sleep with him, and she does. But they end up together for the movie. But she can see when, like, dangers coming and all this stuff. Oh, like us.

She seemingly has an ability until she loses her virginity. Wait, James Bond convinced this woman to sleep with him, but she knows the tarot and he plays a bunch of the lovers card. Yeah. Interesting. She wouldn't kiss him unless the tarot. He knew that the tariff, she would do with the tarot. There's more than kissing. Then what's the point of being James Bond if you have to trick someone?

Well, look. Just be James Bond and everybody wants to sleep with you, right? Isn't that the whole point of being James Bond? Right. I want to sleep with Roger Moore. Yeah. Or at least if you're James Bond, have the confidence you're going to pull the lovers out of a normal deck, but not have to stay. You're welcome.

I did that for you. Because it's like so. Because I think what you were going to say is, and if I may jump down your throat, go ahead. Is that what the tarot reader would be like, this is something's up, right? They know the deck. Yeah. So the lover's card is, it says the lovers on the, like, that's the name of the card.

But in reality, it kind of speaks about uniting with yourself, finding your, like, others, like, you're just, just like unifying two sides of you. So it's not a literal. like two partnered people for sex and no there's got to be like other cards there that indicate that there's this is like a romantic union okay so this is why we brought you in six of cups that's the one that for fucking six of cups six of cups is like childhood six of cups you're knocking boots six of cups um a trans and boom it does look very passionate and like sexy and it's like garden of eden ish so it i can see how like the image this is like what i wonder it

Because in like, in movies, the image of the deck, it's like, what would you choose to do, right? You just choose to like do a spread where it looks accurate, but the images don't really portray what you're trying to get the audience to see. I would do like a two of cups, but that's like too romantic. And that's not sexy enough for cinema. Yeah. And the sex, the sexist one is like the night of ones, but that doesn't say anything. That's like a one night's sand kind of like. This is like a, or the ace of wants.

This is like a phallic beginning of like sex. Oh my God. Wow. Where is this going to go? I don't know. I don't know. Take us through. Can we call you solitaire?

Yeah. Can you give me this outfit? Okay. Great. You know, fun fact about that, the headpiece is attached to the throne. So she gets up. Yeah, it raises. It's all there.

That raises and the cape opens. Whoa. And she steps out of it. It's very exciting. That's pretty amazing. Honestly, if we had more than 16 hours turnaround, we probably would have had you guys watch the movie. This is pretty amazing.

16 hours? Like, didn't you guys agree to do this yesterday? And it's a 16 hour movie. Yeah, it's just a little more time because we're driving. It's longer than the Mahabata. Yeah. All right, so start us off. Who wants to go first?

Okay, let's do this. So, have you ever, okay, let's just do this. So this, like, a little hard. I was trying to wonder, I was trying to read where it comes from because the images are a little like particular. They're profusely illustrated. You're absolutely welcome to use your own deck. Okay.

No, no, I want to use this deck to see what comes out. And if I'm like fully confused, I'll just pull out the regular, rate or weight. So there's this, uh, did you ever watch this Agnes Varda movie? Cleo from 9 to 7, 5 to 7? No. It's pretty good. So it's like, Miss Cleo, the psychic? No, I would that, oh, those cards.

That's Madam Cleo. I think those cards are like on sale. They're like three bucks. I should hope so. Yeah. Call me now. Someone was like, those cards are three bucks. You got to go, like I follow a lot of terror readers on YouTube.

That's fantastic. This is crazy cheap. If you won't like a tarot deck, you should buy this one. How did you get into this, by the way? I don't really, no. I went to London to visit my brother and a friend and an ex-boyfriend. and at some point my brother had to leave and my friend was busy and my ex-boyfriend just kind of ghosted. And I was like, all right, this is good.

I'll just wander around by myself, which is my ideal trip. Exactly. Yeah, no need for like, I don't need to negotiate routes with anyone. Follow someone. I think you are, you would organize the entire trip. Okay. Okay. Like, control free go.

Guilty. This is. Last year when we did. the podcast in London. I had a day and a half, two days to myself, something like that. Nice. Walked 32 miles. Wow.

It was just the best. See, if I'm alone on a trip, I'll just stay in the hotel room. It's dangerous. Are you serious? Dangerous. Yeah. That couldn't be. It's true.

I'm like, I love to go out. Yeah. I'll like walk and like, remember clues of where I was and what it looked like if I'm returning. So I'm not like. Lost. You know why it's flip? I like a fancy hotel

but I like to leave the hotel so that I can come back to the fancy hotel when you're tired from walking a hotel with turn down service Oh yeah All goddamn night I don't even like dark chocolate But I'll eat it

This is what I'm gonna do first I'm allergic I eat it anyway So everyone is included So I was thinking each one of you pick a card And I'll see how I feel about that card And that will be your general energy And then I can do like more specific

Reporting for Ceremony for duty. Wait, I have a question. This is why Alice is here, by the way. Is it the cards that are divining this, or it's your interpretation of the cards? No, no, it's our choosing of the cards. So, yeah, I think both. So I think, um, the way I see it, I'm not that spiritual.

I mean, I am not that, um, you said it. Not me. I'm very spiritual. I just, I don't, I don't. This is a Christian household by God. Okay. Out woman. Okay.

You brought me in here. you put me in this room. We brought you in to shame you, sing you, and kick you out. Oh, okay. Well, then now it's a part. Wait, wait, wait. Until she accepts Lord Jesus Christ as her Savior. It's just a regular day.

He's in the other room and he's waiting for you. He's here. He's everywhere. And he's not white. I'm hooking up with an ex-Mormon. Nice. I know. Oh, yeah, I want to hear all that.

Well, it's, I've asked a thousand questions. And I'll continue to hang out. That's fair. Until I get more questions. So I think that I read this article, which I totally believe we're like, when you're like trying to solve a problem, I think you're, you have, you have things to do during your day. And so you're like, let's just say the programs that the apps that you're using in your brain that are active are the things that you're doing, right, during your day. But you have some like background apps that are like refreshing about things that you're concerned about. Thank you.

I like science better than like. Yeah, me too. It's a terroric stuff. Interesting. So I think your brain is like consistently looking for solutions for certain things that are like back there, even if you're not like actively worrying about that specific thing all the time. And I feel like Tara is kind of like that. It's kind of like it's you calling in from that place. Oh, that's the first time I've ever heard that.

Cool. Palatable. I'm glad if not, I'll be like, where, who is that bitch? explaining this this way. This is my explanation. I call you a bitch. Who is this bitch on my podcast? This bitch.

Man, mad, mad. Well, she started it by being a bitch. He's being like this evil guy while he's fitting a cat on his lap, by the way. He's a Bond villain. Classic villain. You could be like a, like a, I think you would be like a mild mannered villain. Yeah. Yeah.

But that's kind of sometimes scary. It's kind. Yeah. Yeah. Your plan is to just get access to all the handicapped spots. It's a mild. Yeah. Soon they'll all be mine.

All the, uh, American Airlines points will be mine. And you take like lollipops that are for children at the office. There's front desk. These new bond villains are real dick. So I feel like it's kind of like, like, like, calling in, calling in like answers that you're kind of looking for. And the other way I see it is like, um, because you're, you're, you're ruminating about. things inside your head all the time about solutions that you're trying to find. So if you're, when you get the cards and someone else is telling you things, your brain is

automatically going to like think of things and like, things are going to pop in your head as I'm explaining the cards. All I do is explain the cards. Great. And then your brain is going to go, uh, huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, or this could be about this. And whatever that is, it means that there's something there. It's your gut reaction. Right.

And there's something to that. Right. And I can't speak to that. Like that's very private. So I always warn people when I read the card's like, if this is sounding like something to you, this is like, you know what that is. And if you're like, I don't recognize it,

just like let it go because it's not useful at the moment. Great. Let's do this. Okay. I like it. And so like I guess what I'm going to do is for everyone who's listening if the message is for you. Like if you're like, oh, yeah, you can just like take it because it's for you too. otherwise why would it be public right yeah right um okay so what i'm gonna do is have view each just pick one

card so we can start with general energy i'm so nervous about using this deck it's so weird it's okay uh there are regular deck in the minor arcana they have like more explanations on what they are like each card well this one is a little like uh bear bear bear yeah empty yeah it's sparse Barron. It has info. It's just, yeah, it's like... Not as detailed. The 10 of pentacles is like 10 stars instead of like a full drawing, a picture with like more images.

So, okay, you guys can go and pick. Do you just pull from anywhere in the deck? Anywhere in the deck, just like, it doesn't feel free to touch it and just be like, this is my card. Now, I can't fully reach because of the cat, so does that hinder my choice? I think it's really up to you and the cat. Yeah, I think you're going to have a very fun. feline energy. I haven't looked

Alice? Oh my, I just looked. What? Yeah. Was it not supposed to look? I don't know. You've curled like this one hair that you have here,

just like a wharf mustache. I don't know if that means anything to anyone. It sure does. When wharf is like, there's a weird little forest. Nymphs coming in for a pick. A little. Man,

I thought we closed the door. I'm so. One second. Okay. It takes me a long time. Taking pictures of this forest creature. This is very good for every podcast listener. She's picking with talents.

Oh, my God. Only one of her. I'm less than creature. I'm seeing like severely deformed human who's... I like how much the cat got scared. I know. By that. It was like, whoa, I'm done here.

And that is the end of me being in the question. I hate squirrels, especially human-sized ones. So who wants to go first? I'll go first. This is very interesting. Okay. Okay. Let's see.

What you got? The moon. Ooh, okay. So let me see this card. Uh-huh. Interesting. So the moon usually means like connection to your subconscious mind. Maybe there are things that you're trying to, if you're having like dreams right now

or like any kind of like ancient memory that's maybe telling you something. The moon is kind of a shitty card because, sorry. There you go, man. It's not bad like for you, but it's just not active. It's just very like, the answers are in meditation

or like maybe you're connecting to like a female figure that's like, Alice took my glasses off my head and I was trying to help you think. Took me off balance. Thank you. It's kind of like everything you're looking for it's inside your subconscious mind. or there's something hidden that you're not really seeing

or something that if you're pondering something or making a decision maybe like the details are not really clear I can take something from that or you're seeing okay good you're seeing things like how you see someone in the middle of the night and then you see them in bright daylight is very very different like candlelight is so flattering right but then you same person in sunlight

it's kind of like it could be like whoa what happens to you something subconscious, searching for something in my subconscious seems relevant to me. And then there's like, there's like a whisperings from the moon. So, uh, this moon is like throwing little stars at like, like, there's something about dreams here that are like, uh, like whatever you dream right before waking up, uh, whatever, maybe just to work with moon cycles. I don't know how to explain this. This is such a feminine energy. This is like, usually with me, I've been told I have a feminine energy.

Yeah, totally. But this is like the kind of things that I talk with, like, my friends who do, like, moon rituals, you know? You got feminine energy. And that's the last time I saw it. Okay, I'm so sorry. I'm going out for a pack of smokes. I feel like this might be telling you.

Really? Well, I'm going for your, your, your, curlers. I think for the next week or so, you should really sort of try to remember what you dreamt about. Yeah. Like, try to figure out if your, your nighttime subconscious is, You got homework. Damn.

My nighttime subconscious is a major factor in my formation, I think. What do you mean? Well, I had a traumatic thing where I had to watch a horror movie when I was very young, and so I had recurring nightmares my entire life of Michael Myers from Halloween. And it sort of shaped, like, remember when we were talking on the podcast about fear, like existential dread and that sort of thing? And so then like earthquakes and nuclear war all came. into my conscious or subconscious and would come out in dreams my whole life and then I don't

sleep even to this day very well because of that. Do you remember your dreams usually? Usually, yeah. Yeah, there's like maybe like, okay, so I'm going to say this. My dreams are very dark usually. They're like, like when I tell them to people, they're like, whoa. And to me, that says like my normal dreams every day. It's just like a lot of creepy. shit and just darkness. I don't know why. So I have like this thing where I'm very comfortable with those kind of like exploring darkness that way because it's just there.

It seems like very normal. Yeah. But sometimes I do have dreams where like instead of dark, they're heightened emotions or like they're small but like very potent. So try to like what I do. I do the artist way. Do you ever do that? I've never done it.

I'm aware of it. It's really good. It's really good. for that. Like, uh, the site, like, you have the pad and pen next to your bed and the second you wake up, you kind of like go and like, yeah, write everything you can think of everything you can remember, any detail. Uh, and then there's like dream theories like, uh, there's a few YouTube I can send you, but I feel like there's something from your subconscious that it's being, like, whispered at you. Like, this, like, you see how this moon in this deck is like,

uh, from, from her mouth. She's clearly a woman. And, she's looking at you like, you know. And then from her mouth is like stars are coming out and sprinkling in like this dream landscape. And then there's a sun. So that's like right before, right before waking up. Like those more,

the more powerful dreams are right before waking up. It's like, and you're getting. Mama Cass once said the darkest hour is just before dawn. Yes. She's the one that said that, huh? That's not like an ancient proverb.

She sang it. I always thought she said the dawn. like as in Donald. Well, you know, I feel like the darkest hour is currently with Don. You're talking about the Churchill movie? Yes. What are these little bird?

Are these like little ravens? Yes. To me, some people get scared by crows. Not me. I find them like messengers of, crows are very, very, very smart birds. And they're the only birds who can do like several steps. They're taxes.

Little tools. They literally do taxes. It's crazy. They did mine. You see them with our little pens and their little like calculators. It's very cute. Yeah. If you catch them in the wire the zero.

They have those green visors on. Old timey adding machine. And they're like, that's the interest. You can write that off. The crows can do multi-step problem solving. Like they can get themselves out of like, have you seen this?

Listeners and people in this room, please go. and watch YouTube videos of New Caledonian crows doing multi-step, like puzzles. I've seen something like that, but there's also one that they do a James Bond thing with. Like they play the James Bond music to a crow solving a thing. Oh, yeah, that would make sense. I can't remember what it's from. It's from like a BBC show or something.

Yeah. Of course it is. It's like, I think you have like, sorry I'm saying, I'm going to off on this card a lot. It's very, it's a lot. this image is it's big um you said it was profusely drawn it's profusely drawn yeah that's true by step yeah so the um i feel like there's like a multi-step okay this is there's like nuggets of information that are trickling down that you haven't put together i think so and it's coming you just need to like know to collect the pieces it is coming so that you yeah it seems like it

if you're just, if you're open to it. I've been waiting for that my whole life, so I would love for it to come around. I feel like there's a lot of that, and there's kind of like a seed planting. Like these trees don't have leaves. They seem like kind of dream scape. I feel like there's maybe like in the fall you're going to be able to just like,

I know it sounds far, but maybe just pay attention to that. Oh, fall is short compared to a lifetime. Right. Yeah. You have, I feel like you have all the pieces. You kind of know them instinctively. you just haven't like put them together something like that there are whispers from the moon

meditation could help um if you do like moon rituals there's a full moon in gemina on the 3rd of june what about a hefty dose of psilocybin well i don't currently do moon rituals that's a shortcut but hey you're open to them sure well third's coming the way the moon can be like i also like wonder so in full moons usually it's like end of in new moons it's dark, so that's when you plant seeds. Okay. And full moons is like when they come out, right? It's harvest.

Yeah. And people come out and the water's a little like higher. Everyone's like 80% water. So the moon affects water. So you're a little more like probably emotional or like something. Your system is different. So usually in full moons it's it's time to like ponder. But what are you like harvesting?

Because the moon's still there. You just can't see it because of the light. Right? I don't know why. No, the moon, it moves. It's closer. The moon it moves. Closer to the earth.

Is it a blocked? Apage and paragi. But it's got to make a difference to... Hence the tides, my friend. It's going to make a difference for it to reflect the light of the sun and you can like, big mistake. Get that reflection versus like when you don't. Okay.

In your system? Yeah. You erase like what you get. The hurts, don't they change? I don't know. Good questions. For all the listeners out there, with their fingers on the Google.

Do you have scientific answers, please? I'm going to stay open to this and look for the pieces to come together in fall. We will get more cards for you. So let's see, Matt two, Matt one? At one. Ten of cups.

Is that a ten? No, that is not a ten. It is a nine of cups. Amazing. So, cups mean, feeling. Ten would be great, but whatever. Ten would be. A little disappointed in you.

I'm sorry, guys. Could have. Could have done one more. Do you have made it all the way to nine? Why couldn't you have to grab one? My story of my life is always like, I'm close to the finish line of things. You didn't want to just do eight? I mean, why put in the extra one?

I mean, look. It's like when I was a Boy Scout and I made it to life. And then the physical fitness merit badge was the last thing I would need for Eagle Scout. And I was so lazy that I decided, yeah. You were like, eh, I'm done with this. I'm a Life Scout. You know who else for the Life Scout? Indiana Jones in the last crusade as played by River Phoenix.

There you go. Wow. Oh, wow. River? River. I never seen River in action. I only seen him like in documentaries about death. Or his ghost outside the...

Oh, well, you got to watch sneakers. Oh, how is it? Sneakers is a great place to watch River Phoenix. Would you fall in love with him? Oh, I mean, would I? Immediately. Oh, okay. Oh, he's so good.

No, I'm already sad about Jeff Buckley. I can't, like, fall in love with him. I got real sad about Jeff Buckley, too. Yeah. I can't fall in love with another dead man. But his Jeff Buckley's death was so much more romantic. He drowned in the Mississippi River. I know.

Why did he drown? He couldn't swim or did he? They never really knew. And I think maybe he was drunk. Oh, but nobody really knew. Oh, what a loss. Because he waited out by himself, I think.

That's so bad. Yeah. Well, you know, sometimes. The water calls you. True. I wonder when you, like, stop suffering and death by drowning. I guess it would be better than by fire? No, I'll go fire.

I might go fire too, because. it would be quicker, right? Yeah. Well, no, it probably hurt more. It hurts way more. One of my big, I don't want it. Drowning is like the way I don't want it. Why?

I don't know. Something about the, uh, full awareness of what is happening. Right. And the fact that you're like, oh, I'm going to die. I cannot breathe. That's why I choose fire because I think you're so shocked. Your brain can't even process what's happening. I mean, I watched Game of Thrones.

I think your body is also probably like, you're overloaded by, like your pain receptors are overloaded or something. something like that when you're burning alive. Yeah. If you've burned alive, please call us. Yeah. If you've drowned to death or burned alive, let us know.

Don't write us, call us. Call us. And let us know. Yeah. All four of us. At 0.007. 0.07. 0.07.

0.07. Ms. Klee. Ms. You've burned alive. All right. So what's this nine of cups? Okay.

Nine of cups. So it's minor ikana. So this is a little more like of the moment. Well, yours is a major icon. So it's a little more like, a bigger energy. It's a little bit of a more overarching message.

Either way, this is what the topic of your reading is about. So in your case, nine is almost completion. It's three cycles over, right? So the perfect numbers are three, six, nine. And then so a first cycle ends in three, a second in six, and then a third in nine. And so all the minor accounts have ten,

reach to ten, and then that's at. So you're about to finish this, like the cycle and it's emotional. And a nine of cups means like a wish fulfilled. Almost like too abundant. Almost like you're too many cups to drink from. And they're all yours. Your cup runneth over.

My cup has runneth. Literally that's a card of my cup runneth over. And it's personal. So 10 is like 10. When you hit the 10th cup, you're sharing it with maybe like a group. It could be like work. It could be family.

It could be something. But in this case, this is very personal. This is like your wishes are being fulfilled or you're in a place where it would benefit for you to like see count your blessings. Not in a threatening way. Just like it's a good moment of like enjoying. It is interesting, Matt, because this is just for me guys. Don't listen. Well, I'm directing it.

Discovering my ears. La la la la la la la la. It's funny. The last few weeks I've had this sort of swelling feeling of like this is good. Everything's good right now. I can imagine you just had a son. Wow. Henry is adorable.

Oh, he's so cute. And like we have these little, you know, at night when we're putting him to bed, we will all, we take, we give him a bath and then. Leave him on the doorstep. Leave him on the doorstep, hoping someone takes me. He's always there. Always wake up right there. We go into, we go into his room. Dory sits on the, on the daybed.

I get on the daybed. I'm on the other side of it. And then our dog, Bo gets up. lays down in the middle of us and we have the baby and one of us will read to the baby and it just always feels like this little raft. I'm like everything else can go away and we're okay. That's so great. That's everything. That's beautiful.

And it really is something that I've been trying to like sort of be aware of and cherish. Yes. Because sometimes it passes you by because of the daily and like the concerns and stuff. So this is talking about how like literally your wishes are being fulfilled. You have, you can choose any cup to drink from. Like, all of the emotions are great. So this is good. This is like shades of, of a very good thing.

And you have them all. You can just pick what you feel. Do you want to trade cards? No, I'm good. You're on a quest. You're on a quest to the inner depth. You got to go on a quest. You're on a quest to get to that cup card.

There's a meditation on this, too, by the way. Okay. It's like you imagine you place yourself in front of a cave entrance. And then you can picture this cave entrance however you want. So if it's scary to you to get in there, you can put lights and, you know, a mosaic and just whatever, like just. Mosaic is like, yeah. What is it?

The agency. You can have Alice like, uh, Alice could tile the, tile it. One by one. It's going to be broken plates and bottle caps and all sorts of mirrors. What about some ass trays I've collected over the years? How about some old,

neural buttons? You know, old TV tubes? They make cute little decorations. I love it. Wait, so you're just saying like the whole tube that the TV picture was on or like one of the tubes that power of the TV. Could you put Jack Benny on there? Yeah, yeah. I want to go to this cave.

Then you throw it up on Etsy and that's how you make your hair. The whole cave? That is crazy. I do. Hello. Hello. Hello. There you go.

There you go. The last hello. Significantly slower. Dumb dumb slowly. Dumb dumb slowly. That'll make sense when you've got to listen. of both podcasts. Yeah, you have to.

Wow. I love a crossover reference. Wow. Yeah. This is amazing. No, but you, so you have your cave decorated however you want. Now that's important to me. Important.

It's, I need some time. You need, yeah, it's time. Okay. So you can make it like, you put clocks on the wall, whatever it is that you need. And then you kind of go in the cave and see what you find in there. And it's just, it takes a while, but it's basically a journey to your subconscious. Okay. There are some meditations on YouTube for that.

And when I did that, I found a bunch of really cool stuff. Like, first, my cave was, like, muddy, and I kind of, I enjoyed that it was muddy and dark. And it was kind of claustrophobic, and I had, I got dirty to just get in there. So that was cool for me. But some people don't like that. They like more like. Yeah, my cave, I can already tell you, it's very James Bonnian, because a lot of the villains have their layers in caves. But they've also got these, like, beautiful mid-century platforms and beams and columns.

and stuff, and I think that's what it would be. And it smells like modern hotel. You know, those, like, lobbies is like, have too much fragrance. Mine's made of ice. Because you're an ice queen. There's a bond villain layer for that, too. Yeah, that is.

I bet you could be a really good villain. Yeah. A bond villain. Thank you. Oh, my God. So I am going to take over the world, and I'm going to go ahead and eliminate you first. Well, let's see what your card says first.

Yeah, let's see that. You want to see it? Are we done with cups? Well, this is, it's more, it's more like, certain. The moon is, whee. Okay. Wow. You ready?

I'm ready. Are you? I'm excited. I'm excited. And you got the world. Oh. She just told us that she wants to take it over. She wants to take over the world.

God. The world is not enough. You got it. The world is. Is that a James Spoon? It is. That's a movie. That's one of the best Bonds songs.

I think. I think I like Skyfall. But I think my favorite is this garbage one. This garbage one. This garbage one. This garbage one. I don't know why this world is crying. Okay.

Pollution. So, yeah. And it's like being seen from the moon. From the moon. Oh. This is very interesting. Oh, we're connected. Yeah, you guys are.

We didn't learn we had a ton in common yesterday. I do think it has something to do. So the world speaks in general. The world is a card about ending cycles, big cycles, cycles that have to do with you're just ending a phase of your life. It's ending. Your life. But this is, your life is ending.

I don't want your life. And they didn't want to break it to you, but Matt here, help me. This is how you find out. See a doctor, but it ain't going to change. What a way to go. I hope I drown. Oh, my God. Is that crazy?

Yeah, it is connected. It's as if like the sparks of the moon already landed on the, they're like landing there. Look how far the sun is, like how irrelevant almost. What if you're the key to figuring out my unconscious past? Do you know, do you have the answers? Well, I think I do. Okay. And I'll give you my Venmo.

I have to pay first. This sounds like a scam, man. You're just recruiting your friends to be part of an amazing opportunity. Pyramid scheme. I don't know. It's not a pyramid scheme. Let me ask you this. Are there any essential oils involved?

No. There's essential... Serum? Cereens. Essential greases? Any non-essential oils? Well, I think essential greases you have... Yes, they're all non-essential.

There's just throwaway greases. WD40. Throw away greases. The non-speaking tea birds. So, okay, I'm going to tell you the general meanings and then I'm going to go into the James Bond 07 tarot book because I want to see some of the symbols that they put here. So the world means that you are, you conquered the world. There's a, there's something about, it's like, it's literally about worldly possessions or like recognition. or like obtaining something that's like worldly procession.

Bought a house. Yes. And that ends a cycle. So you're finishing a cycle and you're moving on to the next stage, the next phase of things. And it's kind of big. It's a big cycle. So yeah, I would immediately when I saw this, I was like the house. Yeah.

Because this is now your home. So the world is our home. So I have to stay here. And there's a little bit of like like, like yeah, moving, traveling, like physical having to move to travel. Uh, uh, there's a little bit of like, it's a little U-Haul, there's a, it's right there. Right. It makes a tear of the world's face. Um, and there's like, uh, I see it also like internet, literally international travel or like just traveling in on a plane, like around the world. Uh, maybe a vacation.

A man comes. That's in the movie. She's pulling over the cars and there's like a superimposed airplane. A man comes. He brings violence. That's yeah. Yeah. What carts, what carts are being pulled. Is so much less verbose. Did they show them? Very. Yeah. But not getting his money.

I'm like a cycle finish is your subconscious mind. Yeah. Wish fulfilled. There's also like, I don't know why they make this. The moon with his arms closed. That's a Darma Gungalad reference for Matt. He's not paying attention. I'm going to show.

No, no. No, no. Okay. I guess not. Here we go. I'm showing the scene out. I look out of all. Chariot?

Sixth his sword. No. He comes over water with others. Bring the violence and destruction. Amazing. Yeah. He goes through customs. He can't find his passport.

He stops at a bodega. The sandwich is underwhelming. You want to watch this movie now, don't you guys? I like it. I like it. It's one of my favorite Bond movie, love it. It's very, like, the rhythm of the cutting and stuff.

It's so, I don't know. Yeah, it's a surprisingly light. Like, it's like, he brings violence. And it's like, American Airlines. It's a jaunt. It's a jaunt. So, seven stars and one small sun

encircle the earth. A small tree of knowledge springs from a continent, symbolizing the joys of mankind. Across the globe, a smoldering volcano signifies sadness or one endures in personal experiences. Yeah, so the world is a little bit like, it's like everything there is at once. So when you finish, like moving, finishing a cycle, like buying a house or like wrapping a show or anything that includes like graduating college, anything that includes like finishing a cycle, it's like so amazing.

I work so hard to get here every step of the way. And there's a little bit of sadness of like, oh, there's now everything's changed in my life as I knew it. It's like not the same. So, but it's not sad. You work towards that. It's just like part of the transition. So that's why you're, you're, this talks about you and your new era. Your new era.

Okay. So, okay. Good. Okay, so far so good. Somehow you guys are connected. It's like Matt is whispering little stars at you. Little stars. Hey.

May I, may I interpret? Excuse me, sir. Please. Little stars. Okay. No, listen to me. Here's what I think. Little starkey, you know, these cars are telling us.

Tiny ones. Sorry, I'm talking to my friend Matt. You could barely see them. Guys, they're stars. Your design ideas are falling onto her house. She's stealing your ideas. That's a good idea, too. You know?

Well, also expertise. Yeah. Because, no, but he's the one who's having to get that, right? Aren't I helping him? No. No. What? No.

The moon? Straight out. It's not like that. He, the moon is whispering little stars are a land. landing on some kind of land. Now, this seems to be, the world seems to be seen from the moon's perspective, which is unusual as a concept. This card is very weird.

Also, the moon is volcanic. Also, the, the, the, and there's a Starbucks. And the world has a beard. The holes of the earth are so not melted. And the earth is seen from, like, the south of Africa, which is like a whole other weird perspective. It's usually like America, right? Yeah.

You know about that theory of the world? The world maps. Oh, I love that. The West Wing episode about, not about that, but that has it and it's incredible. Do you know it? What is it? The World Map? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, you explained this to me too. Yeah. And, yeah. It's like they made the World Map super, um, the drawings we see. The drawings we see of the World Map are super. Oh, they're not proportional. They're not proportional at all to like the size of land or anything like that. So like, North America is super huge and it's like the same size as Africa.

And like Africa is kind of dinky in comparison to. like all of Europe. And South America is also like down and like way down below like super lower than it is. And then when you like enlarge a map and like put it proportionally, it's like so incredibly different. Isn't it because that's how America is actually very small compared to South America. Africa is gigantic compared to tiny tiny Europe. But what if we were to wrap it around some sort of ball? Yeah. Isn't that way that's what it looks like the map as we wrapped around the ball. Like if you look it on the ball, that's more or less correct. But that map extrapolated into another map that's flat gives you that.

Like they basically take the ball and then put it on a flat thing and they're like, this is what it's really like. And it looks super different than the one we look at. And some people have the theory that's just like Europe and it's Europe and North America centric. Kind of like grandizing those countries versus like the actual proportions of. Well, that's never been done. Well, I wouldn't you grandize the best places.

Yeah, you don't have to. They're already big. Why do you need to make them bigger? They're so big and good. They're bigger than all the other. continents? What could in Europe just and America just be smaller and be like

yeah bitch? Because they're not. We're tiny. We're tiny. We're not small. We're not small. We're putting our thing on you. We're big in God's eyes.

Little stars. There's a little bit of like a global warming thing to this, right? Because that earth is kind of crying and it's seen from the seas. Sure. And the ice like is so large. I don't know why the ice. The polars are so huge. But there's something about.

But there's something about. maybe like now it's it could be time to begin like a new charity or some world related uh something charity uh yeah start a charity like uh clean the oceans kind of deal just like uh think rethink your new stage in the greener way or something like that okay um okay so i'm gonna have you what okay i'm gonna ask what this moon is about and we're gonna get a three card explanation of what what it is and then we'll get a little more into this very cool okay uh so like The only thing about doing a multi-reading is that whatever cards someone gets, the other people cannot get. But that's okay.

That's the problem. That's the only problem. But there's a solution. I love that. I'm shuffling the cards and all I read is 0-0-07. 0-0-0-0-7. It's so weird that she used that deck in the movie. I know.

So I just pick three? Pick three from anywhere, everywhere. Everywhere. And that'll be our, and keep them in order. Yeah. Interesting. That'll be our explanation or, like, more like a. Oh, I know.

knew you're going to pick that one. Oh, my God. They all look the same. They don't matter. That's the joke. She just said they don't matter. One. He brings violence.

Oh, my God. He brings violence. Destruction. All over. He travels. Six of Pentacles. Six of Pentacles, the Tower and the Chariot. Wow.

Okay. Wow. That wants you to rewatch Lord of Rings. That only happens 17 times during a race. That's amazing. You just got three major arcanas. I'm just going to say that. So this is minor arcana.

Any of that, like, less... Eat a dick, Myra. On it. Be right back. So this seems to be about a major, kind of more, a bigger life cycle. Okay. This is more a snap of the moment. It's a snapshot of, like, a moment that Matt is going through, like, that nine of cups.

Well, you seem to be going through, like, a larger process. So you should take your mic, Alice. Alice gonna go pee, guys. So six of pentacles, let me just make sure that this is pentacles and not something else. It shouldn't be, but just in case. Yeah, coins. Okay. So pentacles usually talk about things that are material or resources.

So six of pentacles talks about the balance of that, the giving and taking. I saw an explanation for that card that was kind of like, you have to, really analyze what things are it says something like when you when you go up in your life some people who are not as high up and they see you shine

and kind of want to latch on to that or like look up to you or like they want to work with you and so you have to really decide who to give sometimes they want to even that you do the work for them so you have to decide which which of these energies

you're willing to like interact with And which ones you're like, this is not giving me anything. And so there's a balance that you're attaining or like you have attained in terms of how you give and take, distribute your energy or even your money. So it can be about balancing your accounts or it can be about balancing who you spend time with. So to me, resources, time is money. Time, energy, any kind of efforts, like conversations, email, all that is like resources, right? contacts even that you use or not. So if you feel like you're overworked, you're like drained too much energy, you know that

there's a balance that needs to be regained. And then if you feel like, if you feel unbalanced in the give and take of your life, you should look into that. But when this card appears, especially in the timeline like this, it's the first card. It usually means that you've already attained some kind of balance. Okay. I do work hard on that for my time. My time matters incredibly to me.

And I feel like I'm always regret. breathfully and guiltily having to say no to things, but I do it because I know when it comes up, I'm not going to want to do it. Right. And then you're going to hate it. And then that's not good. That's not good energy. You're not getting anything from it.

So there is a balance, but thanks to this balance or like, yeah, like given to, this is like fair give and take, right? Or maybe balancing a count. You are getting a tower moment, which is kind of like, from balance comes. the moment you like gain that balance or like make sure that it's in place it's some faulty structures fall away fall apart and they happen as if by magic so you know the tower can mean like um so as big as like i i invested in something i lost a bunch of money or it could be like oh um this situation wasn't really working and it kind of went away and it's it just looks chaotic while i like reshuffle but it's just It's not, it wasn't for me. Okay. So it can be good or bad depending on, or like, it could feel good or bad, but it's always like very good. Okay.

It's just chaotic energy. So from you attaining a balance, something in your life, some structure like falls apart, you have to restructure it. So maybe there's something that's taken away a lot of time or effort or energy and you're like, I think I want this to not be like that anymore. And thanks to that, this thing falls apart. but it's not bad it's perfect because the podcast is over thank you we've cancelled James Bond

it's all about you right shining joy in life who did this to us because the moon is here this is the last episode and you have Veronica to think sorry bye

wow and then because the moon is here and right above the tower I would say that this is like it's kind of like you realize what needs to fall. But it can be like something that you're not doing good with your schedule.

Like something that you're over like you're putting too much into this thing and then you're like, let me balance it this way. And thanks to that, some shit that was not meant to be there kind of like goes away. You know what's interesting? According to the interpretation of the... Please, please read that. Yes. A crescent moon, a crescent waning moon is falling away in the corner right there.

These are connected. as the sun beginning to break through the dark clouds. Two stark trees grow in a nearly trimmed field suggesting the difficulties of the past may be overcome through the brighter outlook in the future. This is subconscious. I think that there's a structure of your brain that's like there's not, it's not good for you anymore

and it's just like life is kind of helping you like. Okay. So like to me there's a, I have this like hard time. asking for help. And that's a belief I have. And it's just because I have certain structures in place that I grew up with that have to do with help and getting help and what it means to get help. That those are beliefs I have, but they're not real. And so I've been working on that. But the second I accept help, those beliefs kind of start like crumbling. And you start seeing how it's not just about help in like moving, which is what I'm doing right now. It's not just about accepting

help and moving, you see how you don't accept and receive things in way more areas of your life and something like radically change about your life. So something about how you give and receive or balance your time or resources, it's, it comes from a subconscious place of how you deal with things. This is so deep. I'm so sorry. But what happens is like it's holding you back. This, whatever this structure is that is falling apart and you kind of have an idea of what it is, it falls apart and then the chariot is like moving forward fast something some subconscious structure you have in place

right now have been dealing with or like pondering or like kind of yeah working with when it goes away it's the last thing you need to like to like go really fast this is fast moving conquering this is conquering this is conquering like hell like

Jesus yeah this is really good I don't know if I'm ready for that. This is, look, I'm just saying. This is a real hero's journey. It is. It is. It is. I'm just saying.

Like, this all, this is, this all narratively makes sense. It's a tiny, tiny, little horses. Two tiny little horses and a gigantic man with tiny feet. That is a ruthless determined warrior in a blue metal armor. He stands erect and alert to impending danger. He looks like a dothraki. In his right hand, he grasps both a long spear with a spiral-thead. tip and the reins leading the two spirited horses.

The warrior stands with one foot on his chariot and the other balanced on the yoke between the black and white horses. The chariot holds the shield depicting the symbol of a snake with extended fangs. From the charioteer's helmet burst five flame-like plumes and he wears a pointed shoulder, knee and elbow epaulets in preparedness for battle. His long black beard is trimmed so as to not interfere during physical engagement. His Fou Manchu mustache, the Oriental face, suggests... That looks like it would interfere in engagement.

It really does. His temper and self-will power. The chariot is constructed of heavy wheels bearing star symbols for traveling great distances at fast speeds. Above the chariot is right shoulder, a waxing crescent moon suggests growing power and eventual conquests. Growing power!

The chariot card depicts awareness of impending adversely adversity and preparation to meet whatever difficulties may arise with determination and firm resolution. Could you use that sword to stab someone? I am going to use it to stab my subconscious fears. And let that crippling insomnia come crashing down like the tower. Nice. Because of the moon and six stars.

Yeah, maybe there's something with insomnia here. Like that structure falls. Maybe you tell yourself that, like, maybe there's something about that. I don't know. Have you tried to sleep meditation, Matt? I've tried everything. I bet you have. This is like, it's like a nightmare to have his own now, right?

Yeah. It's like its own nightmare. There's something that's like falling apart and it's inside of you. So that's good. I've known that for a long time. It's your liver. We've got to talk. It probably is.

The chariot means like after a long time of, this is like a, usually a, is like a conqueror just entering the land that's just conquered after like a huge war. Okay. So that person has had help and armies and has fought and has planned this. Like so this victory lab is kind of like after a lot of effort. So this is not like just an easy victory. It's been like this is like a long time coming. It's been a long time coming.

I'm ready. And it has to do with you with you balancing having some kind of balance like restored. so in it's subconscious. And it's your very personal. It's very personal. I have some ideas. Okay. Okay.

Love it. Good. I'll report back. Okay. Let's see what happens. So no one can get the tower of the Sixth of Pentacles of the chariot. Are you ready? I am always ready.

Okay. Let's see what happens here. Although, you know, after a nine of cups is like, okay, let's just flesh them out. Let's figure it out. Yeah. Let's figure out what's happening. You're not going to figure some other things out. Uno.

Okay. Dos. Okay. Treches. Here we go. Okay. So, one, right? Three of pentacles, literally a manifestation of the third.

Okay. I know what that means about. The hermit. That's me. And then a five of pentacles. Oh, my God. Two more babies or kids are so like a pondering. Interesting.

So this is a very personal journey that you're having, even though like it's like your raft is with people, right? It's with other beings. Walter PPPK. He's like done with this shit. So Three of Pentacles means like you're working together with a crew, right? It's usually like a work card. It means like someone's planning and the other two people are following,

three people just working together or a group or it could mean like, like from two, the third comes out. That's usually the three. It's, so it's usually me first. That's one. And then two is when I see the other. I meet the other. And then three is when with the other we make a third thing.

A relationship. A home. A baby. Like a project. Whatever. That's a three. So it's already been materialized. It's right here.

Mm-hmm. And then the hermit is a card of like going on your own, like going up the hill by yourself and taking everything you've experienced and kind of absorb it. So it's a very spiritual card. But it's very much like what you were describing and being on your bed, like taking it in and absorbing what's happening. So there's a lot of that. Now, the five of pentacles a little bit, a more difficult energy. Every five is a little bit like radical change, a little bit. So four is kind of stable, like a table. And then when you add a fifth, it's like, it kind of like it turns into a pentagram, you know, like the structure is a little

unusual a little different so there is a even though like the coins do grow yeah and that means time resources energy there is a change regarding your resources meaning maybe you have to now invest like you realize in your learning that you have to invest so much more time in something or maybe you get busy and sometimes like the five of pentacles can be feeling left out in the cold so if you get busier, you might feel left out from your family. You know, or like if you're, or if you're too much with your family, you might feel like left out from work. So there's a little bit of like sitting down and wondering and absorbing about your, your,

what makes you very, very happy in figuring out how you're going to deal with this energy right here. Because at some point, you're going to have to like feeling, you're going to have that feeling of being like, even though I have more resources, I feel like I'm missing out or left out or something. You are an extremely busy guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I hate it. We're like, we're upset about it. Time for us. Yeah, you don't have time for me. He's Skyping into this whole thing.

Alice is like very upset about this. She's been like campaigning on Twitter and everything. It's horrible. You haven't seen it because you have no time. Let me see this hermit because it's such a like a, it's a cool hermit. Island. It looks like me. Island guy.

See like, A. He's got a plate with warm. food he's like sitting on an island he's making little notes he's definitely journaling island guy oh he's a survivor he just went to his journaling he's up on his hill yeah yeah yeah yeah this guy's like writing down literally maybe you have to write a book about your experiences or there's some there's I mean I never seen the hermit writing I'm jealous of this because I feel I feel like a hermit I hermit myself up a lot and I'm surprised this didn't come up for me yeah he's also wearing a cloak

and a dress. Well, I feel good about that. If you can zoom in into what the hermit's thinking about, it would be like kind of carts like this. Okay. So it's like, yeah. So I'm within the hermit. Yeah.

I'm hermitting within the hermit. Yeah. An aged hermit. You're like super hermiting. Look at this. An aged hermit sits alone on a secluded rock surrounded by water. Sounds good.

He lives in an inaccessible domain. Love it. And no one can reach him unless he is willing to permit visitors. Very villain. Amazon drone. Where's a heavy habit with a cowl. His beard reaches beneath the mysterious water. surrounding him.

A lot of knowledge. In his right hand, he holds a feathered plume for writing in a small book on his lap. His left hand holds the book open to the page where the hermit has written a few short, beautiful verses about nature and life. Oh. Even though the hermit is alone, there appears on the barren rock a steaming meal in a dish which he ignores in his preference to write and meditate. The hermit is deformed.

That's true. He knows the anguish of me. pain and sadness and solitude, he has overcome his personal challenges and has made peace with himself. He is sensitive but self-sustaining. A pair of new yellow boots with open toes hang from his lifeless legs. This card has such tiny feet. A bird rests upon his hunched back and its wings have turned to gold.

The hermit is the guardian of time. He is a wise man seeking wisdom and truth. A thin wisp of moon appears in the sky, lighting darkness for the horn. Hermit. So this is meaning counsel, knowledge, solitude, prudence, discretion, sensitivity, caution, vigilance. It's a lot happening here. Vigilums.

Yeah, it's a lot. The hermit could mean a lot of things. Just because your general card is the Nine of Cups, I think it means like you're pondering everything that you've learned from all this wish fulfillment. And also from like this materialization of the third and the like, and how to invest your resources so that you don't feel so left out. out. But kind of like you're leaving yourself out from it. Like you're just taking a time,

a moment to be like, okay, I just need to like, I need to absorb what's happening. So there's, yeah. Could this be me thinking now that I've, we have the baby and I've spent $160,000 trying to have a baby? That's a five of pentacles total. Yeah. And now my wife wants a down payment for a house. Is that me thinking about how to then do that? Yeah. And that means like, This is like a significant, like, financial, like, investment, it could mean. If there's a lot of cards that have to do with money or, like, buying things, it can mean, like, a huge payment or, like, a huge shifting of your resources in a significant way. I say it starts selling your sperm. Now you know it works.

Well, it works, but it took a lot of effort. Well, sell, it's rarer. Sell it at a high markup. Should I just bring a vial to Antiques Roadshow and see what they say? What have we here? Dear. Look at this. Well, Jim, my uncle told me that this was my sperm.

There's a lot of green. I feel like this has all to do again with the heart, heart chakra. Like, you can do heart chakra meditations if you're, like, confused or no one. It might be like heart chakra opening things. This is kind of stuff that I talk to girlfriends about. But there's like total heart chakra meditation, total like. Thank you for sharing it with us. Connecting with the color green, connect like, like imagining green.

Perhaps some tender grains? Yeah. Tender greens. Yeah, just like, buy some, like, rubies. I don't know. Buy some rubies. Some, like, emeralds.

Some, like, emeralds. I want you buy some rubies and then put those down for the house. Ruby's are red. The other one. Just in a little, like, leather satchel. Here for your house. There you go. Pie with, pay with, like, precious gems.

Amazing. Tiles and a sack of coins. A lot of land for me, mine kin. Yeah, green is also resources. It's like, yeah, you can't. Green, right? There's, you can do green color like meditation. That usually means healing, healing, taking time for healing, healing.

You're back, yeah. Yeah. And the beard, which is knowledge when it's very long, it means that there's a lot of knowledge you acquire throughout the time. And then water is usually a subconscious mind. So it's like your brain knowledge is also uniting with your subconscious world. So there's a lot of, and you have a hot meal, so you've been taken care of. You're like, it's. I got plenty of hot meals.

I mean, this guy. I'll get like a postmates to the Rock Island. He got it. All right. All right, Alice. Let's see what this world is about. This world. Yeah, this is exciting.

Is it enough? We're going to find out. Okay. Let me just. They move it towards me. You move it towards me because it was far. I don't know. Whatever.

This one, I guess. What's his attitude? Yeah, that's the thing. Okay. This is the attitude with which you approach your life. And then the third. These are, these are cool, it's a cool deck. It's a very, it's a lot.

That's good to hear. Yay. And eight. Eight of cups. That was the one that I picked where it was. Oh, the mama. Oh shit. Night.

I'm gonna put tons. I called it. This is sex. That is sex. Yes. It's sex. I like it. I'm a virgin now, but I won't be for long.

Alice is finally losing her virginity. Oh, my God. That's a swirl. You complete that cycle. You're not, you're not going to be a virgin anymore. Good. That's amazing.

I won't be made fun about all the other podcasters. Podcasting is a notoriously promiscuous. Look, I'm telling you, it's a podcast recess when we're all out there. I'm always like to doct to my podcast. When we go to podcast camp, it gets crazy.

Ridiculous. Everything's just slippery. It's always like, the lover's cards is pretty bad. I'm surprised, like, in the 70s, look at that. Like, she has a little heart tattoo. Yeah. They're both, like, wearing, like,

facial designs. It's kind of like the moon. See, like, she's like the moon became a woman. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you got the Eight of Cups, and then the lovers, which is a major icon. This is a major icon.

Anything with an actual drawing, it's a major or a court card. And then you have the Knight of Wands, which is, we said it, sex. It's like. It's at the phallic thing? Yeah, it is, it's like a passionate, like, fire. So the eight of cups is, is.

I hate it. How dare you bring this into my home? It's a Christian home. It's a house of God. So the eight of cups, the world and the eight of cups tells me that you are walking away from a situation that is not no longer serving you or not no longer emotionally fulfilling you in a way. So it doesn't have to be like, if it's like a lot of cards about,

like there are a few cards that are like breakup but that's not what it means this means like the end of like a big emotional cycle that you know that wasn't like working so usually when you move that can be like you're going to a better place in the regular tarot deck it's like a guy living like the eight cups are aligned like that and he already like check them all out and he was like eh and he like left he doesn't want to look for the other two that are left yeah and the two of Cups is like, it's like equality and like seeing each other. So there's something that you're definitely like left as an emotional situation here. What could it be?

An emotional situation because it's the heart inside. So it's not, it's not like a work situation. It could be work if you're emotionally invested in it. It could be like anything that is not making you feel fulfilled. You're like, no. And I have done this. Yeah. This is the past.

I'm about to. I've done it. Or you're in the process of. This could also mean like, well, I'm sorry. Well, you know your shit. I don't know what to tell you. You're telling me. You have to tell me.

The eight of cups in the world is definitely the end of a cycle. And because the world has a little tear and this is about emotions, I would be like, I mean, it is a big, like, when I got married, I had a native cups moment, even though I was headed towards a union. And it had to do with my, like, singlehood and, like, being, like, just not married. So that could be a way to. Well, place the eight of cups. When I've left, when, like, seasons end, when I'm working or, like, jobs finish, or even when I don't feel satisfied about, like, I don't know, friends or anything that would, like, affect your emotions that you're like, I don't know, I don't know if this is for me.

Yeah, I don't know. I had this, but it's not good stuff. Like, anything that I'm thinking of giving up right now in terms of, like, I haven't, is all stuff that I'd be sad about, you know? Yeah, it's kind of sad. card. Okay. All right. Sounds great. That checks. It's a, it's, it's not an easy

decision, but you've seen like there's nothing for you there. Okay. So if there's a situation where you're like, there's nothing for me. It's like semi-sonics closing time. Yeah. You know? Like if you listen too hard, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. That's really helpful. Right. That does clear things

right up for me. So now you know. You have to leave. But do you know who you want to take you home? Yeah. Uh-huh. The thing I was thinking was the situation we were talking about with. That's the first thing I thought of, right? When I saw it. We're both thinking of.

What does that mean? Uh-huh. Because I wasn't. Okay. Well, no, I think it's just like, could it be an outlook? If you look at the next card. Well, yes. So, a cycle, well, you can also, like, leaving in a situation that is not longer working for you doesn't have to mean.

leaving a person or leaving, right, right. That's what I was, actually, that does. Yeah. I got true. You guys can talk through it. Yeah, you know what I was thinking is like, this is really good to talk through it. Like, yeah, yeah. We were talking about no longer being a priority and just being like, oh, one of those people that just kind of falls by the wayside.

It's like, you know what? Like, I know a lot of people who have what I want that that is their situation. Right. They are in that, in that, and they're driving the ship themselves. Right. And it isn't about that. And this thing I've depended on for such a long time, which doesn't seem to be there anymore. Right.

You know? It's like a reimagining of how I have to function. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it's doom. It's just like, okay, this is a new way to live. Yeah. I think if I saw like the eight of cups and then the tower, I'll be like, it's over. Yeah. Like you have to, like, this is breaking up.

Yeah. Or like, you're going to, you're going to like get fire or fire this person or like, or move out, you know, something like that. But this means more like, you know this is not fulfilling you. And you have to, the lover is about uniting. I'm like, yeah, you're uniting with yourself. This is a union. This is also sex, like almost like we talked about this might be you bought a new house

and you're moving towards like a more, a safer self house. You're finishing your cycle, a big cycle. That's been a long time. It's been years. The world's usually years. And now you're like working on your own or finding yourself or finding your other principle or finding that side of you that someone else was giving you and now you have to do it. I really love the part when I was signing the documents yesterday.

I had to sign all of... In Cerritos. Yeah. I have them in my car right now, I think. They're so... No, they're at home, but they're so thick. And one of the parts was just a piece of paper I had to sign that... that said, yes, I am a married woman, an unmarried woman.

Which there was just one piece of paper. There's like, and this just affirms that you are an unmarried woman. Because there's like a stack of documents this thick we have to sign. And some of them are like, this is a document that says that the number four is always just going to be four. And it's not going to be more or less than four. Right. And then you sign.

So it's just random. I look that you have to do like unmarried woman and like that somehow. It's not like, I think it's like a tax related thing. All this information is true. This is your social. This is your blah, blah, blah. You are, in fact, an unmarried woman, and that's, like, pointed out.

So they have to get your status right. So I loved that. That part was like, that was the one I had the biggest smile was to be like, it's right. I'm an unmarried woman doing this shit on my own. It made me feel really good. So it could be. The lovers are a naked couple with bodies entwined.

In her hair. They stand in a medieval Garden of Eden. That's her hair. That's intensely passionate. That's like a shower drain. remains aloof and cold. Story my love. Daring straight ahead

and seeming to resist the press of her kiss. The man is not yet succumb to the passion of the woman. The woman's serpentine hair entwines their bodies. With you and Garrett, you're serpentine.

He's like, he's not convinced, but he's looking out of the house and he's like, okay, maybe. Her right, like shower drain. Her right thigh is tattooed with a love heart pierced by Cupid's arrow signifying an emotional involvement.

However, the man's body bears no such visible admission. The man has a blue star on his cheek signifying emotional distance to the romantic entanglement. The woman's right cheek contains a red heart of emotion. A red earring in the shape of a heart hangs from her right ear, evidencing her excessive, passionate feelings. The two lovers are yet... Wait, sorry, the two lovers are together yet they remain emotionally apart. First, they must subject each other to the test of fidelity. Some vines in the background contain stiff briars while from one vine there springs arose

reaching toward the glowing sun. Another briar entwines a crescent moon, suggesting that the time for trial is at hand. The lover's card reveals the emotional anxieties of each person. A love that has died for the two lovers in death. There grows from one briar and from the other springs a flower. Wow. Great. Um, so I feel like you left, you're leaving something and kind of like, so the lovers is about finding your other side, the side of you that will like, so you're, no thanks.

You're going to, you're going. Yeah, there's, there's a little bit of like, uh, refusing to kind of do everything on your own or refusing to like having to do that. Sorry. No, I want it. Well, okay. I'm good. Okay. But, you know, there's like, uh, you've been relying on this and now you have to go find this other person and kind of like convince that person.

So I do have to do it. Wait. Who's on first? You take that nugget and go. So I'm going to go. No question. Sorry. No question.

Sorry. All right. So I got to go out on my own. This is both you. For the first time ever and find a person who's me. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's deep.

You're like, no. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. I bet you can get at Target. Yeah. I bet you could. Honestly, one of those end caps. Yeah.

Probably the Magnolia collection. Chip and Joanna know me Okay, Home and hearth. I think it's a Heart's in home or something like that. Like if I go and like I am hanging out with friends and they're good for like going to movies

and having brunch with. And then suddenly I feel like this is not a fulfilling thing. And I kind of go, well, I'm going to just not do it with them. And then suddenly you find yourself kind of alone and you have to like self-fulfill that that space that was there. Yeah. And you're kind of like,

eh, okay. So that's that. It's a little bit of like, how do I do this? How do I get this thing from myself? Like, whatever they were giving me, how do I take it from myself? And it's a little bit of like there's, it's not reluctant. It's just like it's not an exercised part of you. So the lovers usually means like you're seeing that the other sides of you and like embracing them.

And then the night of wands besides sex, which this could be like you leave your old house and go have sex with Garrett a bunch in your new house. that could be an easy explanation. Not going to not happen. Hello. But you can leave this in a personal situation. What she bought the house for? It's a sex part. It's a fuckhouse.

I bought myself a fuckhouse. You know that Alice bought a fuckhouse? Yo, bought myself a fuckhouse. I may have told this story before, but when I got married, we were looking for a venue and there's this beautiful Pasadena house

that we wanted to rent because it's this beautiful craftsman house. But it was used in season two of True Detective as the big orgy house. And it was my dream to rent that and the invitations to read Mrs. Janet Lund and Jeffrey Lund

invite you to the wedding of their daughter to Matthew James Gourke. Amanda Fah Lund at Matthew James Gourley at the Pasadena Fuckmancheon from True Detective Season 2. Yes. So formal. And Fadina Fuckman.

Yeah. You didn't get it or they just wouldn't do it? No, they weren't renting it. Oh. And God knows if we could afford it. It was probably ridiculous. Yeah. This is interesting.

So in this deck, are the, are the Wans batons? Yes. Okay, so the knight of batons. The one's batons. The knight of batons rears his horse in preparation. Oh, Betty does. For charging or advancing. He is in a hurry, and he indicates change.

Oh, he's in a hurry. Yeah, nights mean change and movement. So we're talking departure, journey. They always leave. They always leave. Alteration. They call it the one night's hand cart. Right or absence.

They alter by night. Story of my life sitting there with my feminine energy. Just altered. Well, the night of ones, the night of ones, he's in like a donkey? This is so weird. A donkey? What's a donkey? He's just like, right?

A donkey. Oh, a donkey. We're like, look at this guy. Dunkie is the best way to say donkey. It's the, my favorite part of NBA All-Star weekend is the donkey contest. The donkey. I thought that was like a little The hardworking donkey

That you put in your coffee Well no America runs on donkey A donkey Let's all make fun of the person Who knows 100% more words than we do I know I know

Well she don't say them right She likes it I'm very comfortable with it Um So this guy Usually means like Night of Ones Passion ignited

Right Right. If we're talking about work, it could mean like once this happens, like a work project pops or like things in your, in your passion of, yeah, your passion, what you're passionate about what you do, your craft. Suddenly ignite, suddenly start moving, suddenly come to you. So it rushes in. So this is really good. It's just like a little hard to do at the beginning. It's an ending of a big cycle and you have to, you do have to deal with this aid of cups.

I know what I must do. What? Great. You can't say it. What must you do, Alice? Well, if it has to do with work stuff, so my boyfriend went out of town and I was like, I'm going to get a lot done when he's out of town. And so I am.

But I had this idea the other day where I was like, oh, you know, I kind of want to do like a sketch show or something like that. Like I've been, I have a lot of, like, it's been a long time since I pitched anything. and I was like, and it's been a long time since I cared about anything to pitch that was like, that I did myself. Yeah, for the same way. And now I'm like, now I feel excited and I feel inspired again to do that. And so, but I'm also careful because I know the process and I know it's a really heartbreaking

process in which nothing comes of it ever. And the night of batons will walk away. Wait, so let's see if we can sum this up. So your, you will take from this, that you will go into work and do something new creatively and inspiring. You will take from this. You face yourself about it. I face myself about it.

But I also end a dependence, I think, on previous things I depended on. Like, I just, and it's kind of sad and it's kind of scary. But it's like, you know what? I can do it. This is time. I'm a grown up because I just bought a half. house. So now I'm going to, you know, be a little more fearless about something. And I feel like things flow after that because this is a lot of movement. This is fire and fire. Yeah. So we get the,

we clear out the, or it could just be about Samsung appliances. That's also something I'm willing to accept. Don't buy Samsung appliances. I'm telling you. There you go. Don't do it. That alone, if you don't buy Samsung will shove you forward. Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah. They're presenting sponsor, Matt. So they can go screw. Wow. Screw the promise. Screw the fridge because it broke. Yeah, I'm not saying anything against their TV. I enjoy their TV.

Sure. But all their appliances are meant to, they're built to fail. I enjoy the TV. All right. So my sum is that I'm going to deal with a long, subsisting, subconscious issue that defects my sleep. And it's the pieces that are going to come together. And it's, I'm going to handle it. And it has to do with the balance of your resources, which could be time, energy.

Okay, that does make sense because I, I've been. trying really hard to get off technology that has been taking my time. And more than my time, it's rewiring my brain and I hate it. Like, I can't focus as much. And I've been slowly shifting off that and it feels great. Interesting. Okay. Interesting because it affects your sleep and it affects your, your, uh, my psychiatrist was like, you have to not look at any screens, like at least one hour before bed or you're not going to. Right. And then I've been doing it and I remember my dreams and I've been kind of like, uh, it's the hardest thing in the world to do, but it is so good. Yeah, I've been more connected with myself and I deleted Instagram from my phone.

Okay. Me too. Yeah. Well, I, I still have it open, but like, I still use it. I downloaded once a day. Yeah. Yeah. Same with me. You download it once a day? Yeah. That's what I do. Well, I don't even want a day just if I want to post something, I'll download it. Yeah, or if I want to check my DMs. Yeah. Wow. All right. So Matt, I don't have Twitter or Facebook on my phone either. That's nice. Yeah, Facebook is dead to me. I wouldn't delete on it. Twitter.

Twitter's tough. Yeah. All right. So, Matt, you have found a peace and happiness with your family, which personally, I'm so happy to hear. And I, I think, this is such a little pleasant stack of cards you have here. Allison and there are clearly both, we got some places to go. We're working. Things are good, but we're going to, you know, we're going to deal with it.

There's a little bit of working some shit out here. Yeah. but you're like absorbing your emotional lessons and figuring out what to do with this huge investment. I like that I can go forth with my experiences. Yeah, I also think that when you talk about creating a family unit and they talk about how, you know, like fatherhood changes you or whatever, but that could be something that not only like your actual situation changes and you have a new person in your life and you have relationships change, but who you are is cemented differently.

And so it's kind of like, that's why I thought about, like that the, the person that you were and the person that you will become are kind of all like now getting, you're at a, I don't, do you know what I mean? Like the hermit is like, it's all kind of getting absorbed. It's a cohesion. Yeah. It's a cohesion.

It's a gel. It's a gel. Yeah. You're geling. You're gelin. I love those commercials. Oh. You jellin?

Jellin. Ah, these are. comfy. I'm jelling. I just noticed something. Sorry. The moon and the tower have the same like blue background and now this guy, because colors matter in this thing, called terror. And so this thing, I feel like you're taking all this subconscious stuff and kind of wearing it now as an armor in order to move forward. So there's something that you're like using from then to like, to like in real life. Certainly. What if you had to dress like that to sleep? Please, please, please.

I think you both got to grow. Who says I don't? Both got to grow extremely long beards. I'm just going to shave a beard. Yeah. And I just need long hair. And you need to clean your shower drains and for sure.

And wrap Garrett around your hair. Wrap him around in the shower. Well. Your hair. He's going to hate that. As we wrap this up. Wait, I do have a thing I would like to, as we're wrapping up. Uh-huh. I would like to, of the deck that we has been so useful to us.

Yeah. I would like to. Each of us, you and I, pull a card. I was going to suggest that one more card. Bond 25? Bond 25. Oh, that's exactly. You're going to read the fate of Bond 25.

I have to go immediately before that happens. I get it. Because it's too emotional. The card spoke to you. You have to enact. I have to go act now. Done. She's in at once.

That donkey. She's riding that donkey. Makes the specific noise. Thank you for having me, guys. Alice, thank you so much for doing this. I wish you well in your journey. I'll see you very soon. That's Alice Wedderland.

Bye. Okay. Okay. Ready? These are two cards for the fate of Bond 25. One each, right? There is so much at stake here. Okay.

We're really, we both don't know how to feel about the movie. We're both hopeful, but I'm optimistic. I'm just going to tell you what the cards mean. Okay. Oh, wow. You go on. Ready? Airplane mode one second.

Here we go. Oh. Just turn that big round knob to the left. That looks like a. a lock. Yeah. All right. Here we go, man.

Whoa. Okay, you got all ones. Whoa. You chose the same kind of card. 10 and 7. 17. What's Bond 17? This is a struggle.

So what, which one was first? Tomorrow never dies? This is, I'm gonna love it. Which one is first? I think I chose that one, I think. You true. Okay. Right?

Because it was like this. It was like this. slid mine around. You had the more wands. You had 10. Are you sure? Yeah. Okay.

So who flipped it first? Well, it doesn't matter because they're both kind of indicate the same. So not the same, but they're different. So seven of wands means stand your ground, fighting. Like people trying to attack you and you fight back. Oh, good, because the tabloids are going crazy on this thing right now. It's golden eye. It's golden eye.

Oh, really? Yeah. All right. But we're talking about Bond 25. It's under immense pressure from the tabloids right now, making shit stories up about it. Who is starring? I don't know. Daniel Craig. Oh, okay. He's back. He's back. Okay. He's not. Uh, I love that. He recently, you know, the ankle injury. Yeah. Did that shut down? Is that real?

Yeah. He's, they had to delay for two weeks. But he's going to be back. That's a lot of money. Yeah. That's a lot of money. So these are two, like, the ones are about a project, fire, passionate fire project of the heart, anything that has to do with fire. And the seven of ones usually means like, in the six of ones, you gain of it. And then in the seven people get jealous and try to attack you. And you defend yourself. They're attacking the movie. Yeah.

You defend yourself like usually like in the seven you're victorious because that means that that you already have a six that's that kind of success. So everyone who's attacking is just jealous and kind of like trying to tear you down. And usually the guy is like on a hill and all the people attacking him are so below that he can just like whack him. But it looks like it looks like a lot at the time. So it's a little bit like having to stand. your ground. I like that. And succeeding through all the seven said about like ultimate victory through like going

like after a process. Could this mean that I'm going to have to stand my ground in my love of the franchise in spite of the movie? It could be. It could be also like James Bond having to fight through like the rumors or James Bond actually fighting guys even though he's like. Yeah, he's very. He's on top.

He still has to like. And then the 10 of ones means like. a lot of effort. It's kind of like carrying a huge project on your own. In like almost like no one helps you. It's just like breaking your back. But you're almost done. You're at 10.

10 is almost over. But it's a lot. It's like it's a big load. It's like usually a guy carrying 10 ones. He can't even see where he's going because he's like caring so much. That's Daniel Craig. He's near the end. He's carrying it all.

But he's got one last good one in him. Everything's standing on him. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like if I was a star of a huge franchise, like that and it's getting like attacks from the press you would be a 10-at-ones I know a few people who've gone through it and we need to support this well we're standing our grand this feels like a struggle frankly it feels like a lot of work it has been a struggle it's been delayed twice

the directors they've gone through yeah one official director already yeah but probably more and who knows how many scripts yeah it's kind of like a a solo story kind of deal yeah it's like a big franchise changes director yeah yeah that's That's true. They didn't shoot all but three weeks of it. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, but this is just like a lot of, you have worked hard, a struggle.

It's not an easy going process. This is not like you have to prove yourself. This movie is going to have to prove itself. And it's just been a big fight. This is a seemingly appropriate cards to pull for this film. That's right. Appropriate, but not really telling you a result. Which is just like.

That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's how it hangs with us. Veronica. Yeah. Wow. This is so great.

Thank you so much for this. Of course. Thank you for having a treat. I'm so glad that these cards will now be in your possession for future use. I am so thankful to you for this double gift. You'd be like, all right, I have this weird ass cards for the 70s. How many decks of tarot cards do you have? I have so many.

Really? So this will add to the collection. Some of them I like, I got gifted and used and I was like for some reason they're not appropriate for so many occasions. Yeah. And some of them I've bought thinking that. they would be great and when I actually went through the deck it was like not good for me. So I have a few of those and then all the rest depending on the person like I pull them.

I kind of feel the energy and see. So you think there will be someone you come across or like you're a 007 deck guy. Yeah. Or girl. Yes. Because there's like the Dali tarot deck. Oh, that's cool. So strong and I don't think they're for everyone.

Because I may say like it's not as bad as it looks. but the people are still like with their own two eyes are seeing like just bloody like shit Yeah it's just like okay Well it does look bad I see a bleeding goat a lot of pentagrams What are you telling me?

And I'm like you're gonna be okay It's very hard it's very hard sometimes To have a like a bloody deck And just be like it's okay So it's for like depending on the person Sometimes they're like can you read my terror And I'm like I'm gonna pull an angel oracle deck It's not even like a taro

Oh, okay. Just ease you into it. Yeah, figures of angels, very like mild. Well, speaking of angel, strange angels coming back. Isn't that right? Yes, I'm so excited. That's the show that you're on. That's very exciting. It's on CBS, all access. Oh, my old employers. This is the story of Jack Parsons, right? Yeah, it's Jack Parsons. And all the crazy goings on there at the, at the JPL experimental culture. Yes, so it's about Jack Parsons, who's a real actual person who existed before rocket science was a thing. He was like, we are going to go to the moon and people were like, you're insane. And he did create jet propulsion at the time. It was the 40s. So war was happening. Right here

in our backyard. Yeah. And it happened all in Pasadena and Caltech and JPL came out of that. And didn't he and like Alistair Crowley and Elrond Hubbard go down to the arroyo and jerk off into a circle and create sex magic? Yes. Yeah. That's what we're shooting in Altadena and that huge mansion. It's the parsonage, which turns into the, so Jack Parsons on top of being a rocket scientist. he was like an occult. He became the grand megas of this like occult thing where they do sex magic. And I had to be part of one of those scenes. And I tell you, it was a stressful day for me.

Really? Oh my God. It's like, motherfucker. This is crazy. That is the best half of that chili peppers album. It's, yeah. Blood sugar, sex magic. Sex magic.

So, yeah, we have the best part of that album and then Rocket Science, which is like Star Trek. I would say like if you like Star Trek, this is like the best. beginning of how of all that utopia we're like I love this topic yeah yeah I love I love it too it's very uncomfortable to wear like period clothes but it's very uncomfortable but you ultimately it's like my character is also like something I'm really proud of because so latina in the 40s and it's in that world and it's just like it just it dealt with a lot of very like modern topics in a cool way so I'm excited about it's the best of science fiction right there when you

that's true with modern things disguised in the old times, even though it's science fact. This guy is Klingon War. Well, thank you so much, Veronica. Thank you for having me. We've done it. We did it. James Bonding.

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