Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 395: AEW Roster Review, K To Z

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW's male roster, K to Z! Plus Jim talks about R-Truth & Carlito leaving WWE, Ric Flair & Jim Ross, Smackdown & Raw, Money In The Bank preview, an...d more!  Thanks to our episode sponsors: RAYCON: Go to buyraycon.com/jce to get 15% off sitewide! SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/cornette Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Again, friend, our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru on a nice hot day here in the Northeast. We'll see how hot it is. Somewhere else right now, I'm sure we'll get the rain report momentarily. I'm your host, the great Brian last, and here he is, the star of the show. We got a pack show today. Mr. Jim Cornett. It's not raining, Brian. Back to you.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Major news here at the start of the show. isn't raining in Louisville, there isn't a tornado on the way, no one is under a table, no one is hiding. How does this feel? This feels like success? There's no under the table going on. No, it's sunny, it's actually hot. We're going to have the hottest day so far this year today, and that's going to go on for a couple days, and then it's going to rain again. But at least it shouldn't be severe weather. But of course, as I prophesized, and the prophecy has come true, Last year on June the 3rd is when I planted those trees, and it didn't rain for another 23 days.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We had a big drought. It was 90 degrees every day. Well, it's been obviously raining up until this point, and now, as of June the 3rd, the forecast is, we're going to get like an inch of rain two or three days later. But I didn't plan anything this year. See, there's the rub. And you?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Arn. Anderson used to say, And you? Well, coming from, and there's the rub, and then you go to me. I don't know what kind of transition that is. I just saw this thing on TV. I wanted to get your thoughts on. It's called Spruce. Not to give anyone a free ad, because I don't know if it works or not, but I'm going to buy one and check it out.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It's apparently a weed and grass killer that's safe for animals and humans. Have you seen the commercials for this? They have not done that here or shown those here yet. I have not seen this. whatever you said maybe think of that well you get the the various the the rains bring the flowers
Starting point is 00:02:31 and the trees and the weeds the weeds so they have been yes and no my my yard gentlemen have to come and spray a bunch of various shit in some of these mulch beds that have just been overgrown with the things but no it's not safe
Starting point is 00:02:48 you can't just go out there and get on your hands knees on all fours and just start licking dandelions and shit. That shit'll kill you if you do that. I don't know about you. How is it safe to... What do you just eating this on Ritz Crackers, but you put it on dandelions and Bermuda grass
Starting point is 00:03:07 and it kills it better than four o'clock? The ad on Amazon had like this very pretty woman holding a canister, no gloves, no boots or anything. She was eating it? No, she's just smiling as she sprays it onto the pavement. On to the pavement? Or onto, uh, yeah, under the pavement. how are you going to kill weeds on the pavement
Starting point is 00:03:26 if they're excuse me paving stones the stones are growing weeds in between the stones oh in between where the so but then the little dogs and the cats
Starting point is 00:03:44 and the bunny rabbits and everything can just come up and still eat that stuff and it just doesn't hurt them at all but it kills these weeds that are have taken hold and are disrupting your entire walking area. I think I got to check it out. I'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Have the oldest kid eat some first. No one's going to eat it. Why did you go to licking dandelions and eating it? What the hell's the matter with you? If it's supposed to be harmless to all these people, have the oldest, the hardiest child, the one that's got the best developed immune
Starting point is 00:04:15 system, have it, have them eat it first. And if it doesn't harm them, then you could graduate down to where you could feel safe all the way down to Swami or the youngest child, whichever is lower in body weight. I'll just see if any deer drop dead outside. If they do, you know, I'll know that. Well, then you'd feel awful bad, wouldn't you? I mean, if it gets rid of that, you know, the biggest problem I have now is there's bobcats in the area, and that scares the
Starting point is 00:04:42 shit out of me. I'm scared to death of, like, a bobcat running up here and deciding I look like lunch. Bobcats can be vicious. Ask Al Snow. But I'll tell you. I got an email, Brian. Who's it from? Who's it from, Jim? From, well, you know, as a matter of fact, I got a package. That's Bobcat. No, I've got a package, first of all, in the mail from Lucas Kenzer.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Bless your little peepick and heart. Because did we just say, like last week, I think it was on one of the programs here, I mentioned that the grocery store here stop carrying my favorite brand of Rimalot. The Louisiana brand of Rimalog, can there be any other? That's what Rimalot is, Louisiana mayonnaise. And guess what he sent me,
Starting point is 00:05:37 his little P-Picking Heart that just got blessed, a box of 12 bottles of my Rimalot. And now I'm not going to be a Scrooge, now also the in-laws, Stace's folks have Rimmelide and the Featherbottom family has Rimmelide and we are stocked with Rimmelide, thanks to Lucas. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Can you think he, bless him that he thought of me, but also what a great... That's what he did. He thought of you and then you said, let me give away this guy's stuff to everyone I know. Hey. Well, no, I wanted to share the with my immediate family. I wanted to share the good,
Starting point is 00:06:17 of knowing of a fine, upstanding, generous person like Lucas, see, and you try to twist it into something ugly. And for heaven's sake, when we're trying to be, he's loving people. And I think he's an example of the cult of Cornett members out there that are so giving and loving, and I can just mention that I've got a shortage of something in my life, and they sent me Sprite Zero, paper towels, now really. Rimmelod. And I'll have you know, Brian, last week, I went over to the bank and my bank is out of 20s. I don't know what I'm going to do. I got no 20s. $20 bills, folks. You can find
Starting point is 00:07:03 the post office box on the website. But that's the box I got or the package or the container, the box like structure that came. Brian, but also I got an email from my friend Chad. You know our buddy chad over in west virginia the world's foremost blind vendor you remember we've had discussions he's been ripping off blind people for years oh here let me sell you this 10 000 watch it's nothing no quit no he steals him the blind you've misrepresented you've got it backwards again he is a blind person stealing from people with sight get it straight he's actually a blind to vend he's not vending to the blind he's a blind person that's vending so all the money that he steals he comes from the fucking people with eyes that ought to know better sounds like it could be
Starting point is 00:07:57 an undercover cop don't impugn his intent it's not why he wears that raincoat but there that's sounds like an undercover cop that's why he's selling all the why is that blind person selling all these things it doesn't even make how's he driving what doesn't make sense well that's remember you we've started having fun with that and and taking the people as they say across the pond out of what we thought was the the funniness of Chad or any other blind people driving up and down the interstate there attending to his various vending machines and that's what he wanted to let us know about do you know brian that that is in many places and oft times and for some individuals it is possible for a blind person a legally blind person
Starting point is 00:08:45 to get a license to drive. Did you know this? I did not. I mean, well, again, when you say legally blind, is that George Weingroff? You know what I mean? Like, what, is it someone who just can't see it all? Well, I mean, but what did happen?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Did you shadow George Weingroff around to see how many things he bumped into? No, whether he ought to be fucking driving or not. What did you think? You were around them? You were around them enough. Should he have been driving? I was around him. I was brother Eric that was the referee who was blinder.
Starting point is 00:09:14 He didn't see anything. Um, it, you can't dick when Bobby, Bobby, Eric was so green.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Bobby Eat was calling a spot one time and the guy he was working with had the guy on a headlock. And he asked the guy and said, can you leap frog? And Eric, the referee is standing over next to him.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And he thought he was talking to him because Bobby wasn't looking at the guy directly in his face. And he just looked at Bobby and said, I think so. Anyway, back to Chad now. Chad is on the docket here. He mentions there are more blind people driving than you think.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Bioptic correction is allowed in many states for this type of corrective lens. It's allowed in Kentucky, but not New Jersey, although there is a conflict on that data. Some sites say yes, others know. So, Brian, you got a 50, 50 shot maybe of getting out on the parkway with somebody. Are you blind, you son of my bitch? Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:10:24 But anyway, basically, and without going into a doctoral dissertation on the subject, bioptics are a pair of glasses with a micro-sized telescope set in the lens of the stronger of the two eyes. A legally blind person whose best correction with standard glasses is 2,200 with bioptics gets it down to 2060 and can get a license. And according to the way I understand that is, and again, Chad, Chad, feel free. But the 2020 vision is you've heard say perfect.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's basically you can see at 20 feet what a person with normal eyesight should be able to see at 20 feet. is kind of the scale there in layman's terms, even if I do never get laid. This guy's sounding less blind by the second. Well, no, he still doesn't drive. He mentioned that before. He sent me an email saying that he did have a bit of a, a giggle fest about the two of us imagining him driving up and down to his locations.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He's not one of the people that is doing that. but uh who was it one time possible well i think we talked about it years ago the idea that stevie wonder isn't really blind and who was it there was some celebrity that was like yeah one time we were at stevie's house listening to music in the car i think it was lionel richie and he's like yeah that stevie just put the car in reverse and started driving you know what he's driving and then you hear from other people they're like yeah i was next to him i'm pretty sure like it was almost like he could see me but he can't he's stevie wonder i wonder though with uh the the driving, the self-driving cars like Tesla's, even though they may decapitate some,
Starting point is 00:12:17 does that change the way, I mean, maybe not now, but I guess in the future, will it change the way that licensing works for seeing impaired people? We've already had the discussion that I would shit myself and die of a heart attack within seconds of being inside a self-driving car. It lies. it gives me serious anxiety to be in a car with somebody else driving it that can see and is human, right? So I can't imagine the thought of me being on the road
Starting point is 00:12:54 and not freaking out when there's the potential of a self-driving car with a blind person inside of it coming in the other direction to me. How about this? This could work really well for the YouTube channel if you would actually try it, and we'll get like a location that's safe that's like open road but there's not a lot like an old country road
Starting point is 00:13:13 there won't be a lot of people there you just have to go like 50 yards down the road with a blind person driving you can sit in the passenger seat or the back 50 yards in the car with a blind person driving not self-driving but they're driving wait a minute 50 yards though
Starting point is 00:13:32 in the course of the distance of driving in a regular car or vehicle or some description is if you were pointed straight pretty much Yeah, maybe 50 yards wasn't the best idea. Yeah, maybe it wasn't a bad idea. Yeah, so I'll take that. I'll take that. You'll do it?
Starting point is 00:13:47 You'd have to fuck it up on purpose. Would you do 100 yards? Now, see, now you're pushing your luck there, pal. It's your luck I'm really pushing, not my own. Yeah, you're pushing my fucking health. Maybe I'll just, I'll, as Mama Cornett used to say, how about we don't and say we did? All right, well, this is your country.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But I got Rimalod, and you got the show, baby. Oh, great. Well, that was the update on blind people on the road, and of course, this has been an ongoing series. We may spend it off into a brand new podcast. Stay tuned for that. Jim, what's going out of Cornett's Collectibles? Well, as a matter of fact, this is a good time to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I was crowing on the last episode of one of the programs that we did that I just handed off the last a couple hundred packages to Hotchkiss and we're all caught up so order with impunity and unfortunately the the fellow known as Hotchkis Feather Bottom who's a heck of a guy named Jason Lindsay who has been all kinds of help to me and you guys in getting you stuff that you order a lot quicker and I used to by myself his mother is really something. and for the next week or two, nothing's probably going to get mailed out. Some of the packages that I've handed off may actually have gone,
Starting point is 00:15:18 but if not, I've told him that his family is more important. And so for the next few weeks, you can still order stuff and you'll get it, but nothing's going out for the next week or two because of that situation. So if anybody wants to wait and we'll take a little break, but I wanted to, I don't know if he's going to get a chance to listen to this program, but if he does, all of the cult members that you have helped out in replacing damaged
Starting point is 00:15:48 merchandise or finding the package that the post office sent to Antarctica, you know, he's the guy that has done that and we wish him the best. Anyway, that's what's going on at Jim Cornett.com. That's right. Good guy. All kidding aside. good guy. So what's going on with you, Brian? It's the Hodgkis persona that I have a problem with, but the man behind the mask is a good
Starting point is 00:16:16 man. You know, and how did you hear that they would allow him to cross state lines only if he wears that mask? Again, let's not make jokes like that. We're saying nice things about the guy. Why do you always have to end everything with like, all right, let's go into the gutter and just kick him a few times? Well, because it just, it was there.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And, you know, that's the thing that he had made certain settlements in order to get back in the state. All right, well, let's see about what state we're in right now. Jim, there is a lot going on. We have a lot to get to. We have some reviews. We have the roster review, which a lot of people have been waiting for. Lots of other things happening. Why don't we start with something that's a bit, what the hell's going on with this? We talked last week about Rick Flair, and the news that he had launched or was behind the company or aligned with a company called Rick Flair Spirits, of all things. with a line of Rick Flair liquor drinks, liquor drinks, Rick Flair, uh, Lickers, Rick Flair. Rick Flair,
Starting point is 00:17:14 it sounds like you've had some. Have you had some of the Rick Flair liquor drinks, Brian? Everything from Flair Bourbon to Wooskey. Right when we talked about that, there were a lot of people getting in touch about a tweet. Jim Ross has been on social media from at least what I've seen, and I don't follow him or anything,
Starting point is 00:17:37 just a few times it's been retweeted over the last few weeks talking about his medical issues and he went in for surgery, he came out of surgery. Yes, and he just actually, I think right before we're going on the air, has tweeted that he's home from the hospital
Starting point is 00:17:53 and, you know, starting his recovery there. But yeah, we've mentioned a few weeks ago when he made the public statement that he was, being treated for cancer, everybody's up on that. And Jim Ross has a lot of fans. So naturally, his fans would want to know what's going on with him, especially if it's something, you know, as serious as this.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Well, in the midst of that, Rick Flair tweeted out, Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention. Focus on your recovery. And then he tagged him in it. and a lot of people took that as what the hell is Rick Flair doing? Why would he do this? Was there a smiley face?
Starting point is 00:18:40 No, I don't think Rick Flair uses emojis, or at least not here. Any type of little semicolon right parenthesis? Other than him tagging him at the end to make sure he saw it, no. Well, that's, I heard that. I didn't hear it. It wasn't spoken. I saw that and I was trying
Starting point is 00:19:05 to figure out if it was it was it in response to some specific statement or event or remark that someone is made was it in response to
Starting point is 00:19:20 something someone had said or that an announcement that had been made that people were supposed to know what the fuck he was talking about if he, then as we will find out here in second, claim that it was taken out of context. What was the context? You just blurted something out in the wild, right?
Starting point is 00:19:42 And nobody, if they did misunderstand it from what you meant it to be, Rick, why not? Because we know what you were fucking talking about. How did you take it? Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention. Focus on your recovery. That's right, because people started retweeting it with the goddamn, like, Jesus, guy. And I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:08 And I'm thinking from Jim Ross's goddamn hospital gurney, did he give some kind of interview where he said something about Rick that, bam? And I'm, then since that apparently is not the case, I'm wondering if, if Flair just saw something at some. point in time and assumed that if he responded to it, that in that moment that everybody would know exactly what he was fucking talking about. But it just, it was the oddest fucking thing. Did they have problems?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I don't know what to fucking think. When you were with them, and again, they worked together after that too, but when you were with them, let's say, in 88, 89, 90, did they have problems? Did they work well together? What did? The only problem. that they had, and I've said this many times, was that
Starting point is 00:21:04 Flair viewed JR as being more on Jim Hurd's side because JR had to coexist in the office with the fucking raccoon-headed asshole and was more tried to be a more amenable
Starting point is 00:21:20 or professional or acquiesced or whatever to him than Flair who just wanted to say, fuck you, jump out the window, and me too. but it was not like that either one of them personally had a issue with each other, whatever. And as I said, I don't know what I don't know what's going on with anybody the last number of years. I'm over here.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I try to stay away from these things. But that's what, Flair put out a follow-up tweet that said that he was in some way misunderstood. or misrepresented or whatever. And if you read that, let's try to figure out how the fuck that that is a thing that could be. And actually there's two things here. I have the tweet, which I believe you're referencing.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I also have a statement that he issued after that. So let's go to here. Here's the tweet. If you can't take a joke from a 76-year-old man, then you are living life too seriously. It was all harmless. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Should you also mention that you're saying that because every word is capitalized? Yeah, that's the rule. If it's capitalized, we yell it. That's the Russo rule when it comes to reading documents. Yes. Then you are a living life too seriously. It was all harmless, lighthearted fun.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Just trying to make people laugh and smile. What the, all those Jim Ross haters. He's trying to make laugh and smile. Hey, I heard Jim Ross had surgery for cancer. You know what? Let me go make a joke. You're seeking attention again.
Starting point is 00:23:11 You know, I'd be honest, Rick used to be a bit better of a comedian. I don't, how was that a joke that, see, that's what I'm thinking is, does Rick think that he's sending out the meaning that he thinks in his head telepathically along with these tweets so people would understand it. I was like, God damn. Seeking attention for his cancer. How did you got cancer?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Seeking attention again! Well, we have another statement here. I won't yell this one. I just made it clear to the world in an article coming out on Sports Illustrated by Justin Barrasso that Jim Ross was on my Mount Rushmore, along with Gordon Solie,
Starting point is 00:24:02 Gene Okerland, and Jerry Lawler. That's an interesting Mount Rushmore there. That is an interesting choice of announcers when you're... Well, he's covering the spectrum. That's high praise because it was very difficult for me to leave out Tony Chivani. Oh, Jesus. But Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were the greatest tandem ever. Nobody should be upset because two people have a difference in opinion.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It happens in life. I lost the son. he lost a beautiful wife. We have a lot in common. We were both considered the best at what we do. Let's leave it alone at that, and all the haters can focus on someone else now. Well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think it was alone until you brought it up, but besides that... Ignore the fire. I started the fire. What is the movie? What was the difference of opinion? He said everybody has a difference of opinion. What? He was for cancer and J.R. is against it?
Starting point is 00:25:12 He said he got cancer. I said that. He's looking for attention. He said, no, I have cancer. Whoa. It's a difference of opinion. What is the difference of opinion? You need a second opinion? You're seeking attention.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's why I tell you. I went to the doctor. The doctor said, I think you're ugly. I said, I'd like a second opinion. Okay, you're stupid, too. How you doing, Jim? Do you have a good support system? Well, the greatest of all time just told me I'm seeking attention.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Do you think Rick should send him a case of whiskey or something to ease the pain? I don't know. Well, maybe Rick, the next business he'll get into is an organ transplant service called Ro organs. Because, you know, if you, If you partaking all the rest of the Wu brand items, you're going to need your liver replaced, your kidneys replaced, your pancreas, your uvula, all those things are going to need to come out
Starting point is 00:26:20 and have somebody else's come in. So start now, and that way they can start harvesting the organs for the next generation of the woo sumers. Woo sumers. You can just see Jim Ross's face, like looking at his phone, like, hey, let me scroll. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:26:36 What the fuck? All right. Well, that's the, I don't know what we call it, the Rick Flair Jim Ross feud update. It's just a difference of opinion. All the haters can focus on something else. It was a joke. It's just you and me and we just disagree.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Before we go too much further, let's get the reviews out of the way. What did you watch? And when did you watch it? Well, I'll tell you what, here is a comment that I'm going to make, Brian, to you as I go to my notepad, because it has been a topic that has come up on my Twitter machine that in response to some of our clips on YouTube, when we tweet out the links to these things as a service to the public, free of charge,
Starting point is 00:27:31 we tweet out these links, you click on, see, this is another thing. Did you know that somebody stole links from Hotchkis Featherbottom? He had invented them about a year or two ago. But then somebody jumped in and, yes, and somebody, all that far back. And somebody jumped in and got to market with him first, but he invented the link. But we tweet the links to the YouTube videos. Some of these rabble rousers in the minority have tweeted me back and said, you guys just gloss over the WWE.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You'll go into minute detail about what goes on on dynamite and tell them what all's wrong and everything and how bad they fucked up. But you just gloss over the WWE. You barely even talk about it sometimes. And I believe we've explained this before, at least I have. I feel like I have, Brian. Maybe I've got, you know, the, the milk of amnesia.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But it's, the reason for that in a lot of cases is because where the WWE is just kind of fucking boring professionally done, not quite as many, near as many production fuckups.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And occasionally, somebody drops gable on his head or whatever, but normally not anything to fucking, fucking, take to task in the ring on a professionalism basis, it's just kind of there, and it takes three hours, it gives you about 15 minutes of entertainment. Whereas on the other program,
Starting point is 00:29:17 it's like trying to run through the Zapruder film and analyze exactly where the, how many shooters were there, where were they coming from, and who was in the book depository when so-and-so went out on a stretcher. It's so unprofessional from so many different standpoints, and it makes no logical sense from one moment to another,
Starting point is 00:29:46 that one must try to keep up with these things as best we can. The other thing is like a, what do they call them little poems in school, Brian, the little short poems, the haikus. Did you study those back in grade school? We did, yeah. How many lines is supposed to be in one of those? Is that the five-line deal,
Starting point is 00:30:13 or am I thinking about the limericks with the girl from Nantucket? I said we studied it. I didn't say I retained it. You didn't say you retained any of it. It's brief is what it is. Well, that's what it's like the WWE is giving us a wrestling haiku
Starting point is 00:30:30 but it takes you two and three hours to watch the thing. Whereas meanwhile, AEW is over there like the meth head across the street after a three-day binge just prattling on, tweaking all over the fucking place. You don't know where to start in trying to analyze his fucking behavior. So I got a couple of comments about Smackdown, and you can just let me know whether whether you agree with me or not in terms of general overall, why the, why?
Starting point is 00:31:07 They had 14,600 people in Knoxville, Tennessee. That's a goddamn hell of a house in Knoxville, Tennessee. And half the crowd was wearing the UT Orange and court Bianca's hometown or, well, she went to Tennessee. I don't know if she was actually born in the, city limits or whatever, but she came out in the University of Tennessee colors and everything, and she wanted to get everybody to sing Rocky Top.
Starting point is 00:31:42 But then when the music started, it was like a marching band Rocky Top instrumental, and they just sat there because they could figure out where to come in, and she's not leading them. She never sang at all. she wanted the people to sing but she didn't want to reveal that she couldn't carry a tune in a bushel basket so about halfway through they figured out oh shit it's there and then they came in and sang to they're saying the chorus twice
Starting point is 00:32:19 but how do you how do you screw up Rocky Top in Knoxville Tennessee how is it possible to fuck up the presentation of the goddamn national anthem of Knoxville, Tennessee? These are just rhetorical questions, Brian, but feel free to kick in it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Would you like to hear Bianca Bellaire sing? I had never heard her sing, and I'm not too familiar with Rocky Top, so... Oh, come on! Sounds like this is a win-win for me. No, Rocky Top is the anthem of the UT Anthem, but also it's Rocky the Osborne brothers.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Rocky Top, you'll always be. Home sweet home to me. Good old Rocky Top, Rocky Top, Tennessee. You could just blare that on the loudspeakers in the middle of downtown Knoxville at fucking noon on a Friday and everybody would just come to a halt and start singing.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Once two strangers climbed old Rocky Top looking forward. moonshines still. Strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top. Reckon they never will. No, there's no organ. There's a fiddle and a
Starting point is 00:33:40 banjo. No, there's no wind chimes either. But anyway, she did a promo about how happy she was. This is the point I was going to make, and it will move on. She did a promo about how happy she was coming
Starting point is 00:33:58 home to her safe space. to heal. She's got a broken fucking finger. She's literally holding a microphone with a goddamn hand. It's got the fucking finger split on it. She had to come home to a safe space to heal for a broken fucking finger.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Riggie Morton worked for six weeks one time with a broken aunt. Naomi came out and did the fucking promo about when she broke into Bianca's parents' house and us all for fuck's sake. and they go into the money in the bank qualifier with jade and nia and naomi and by the time that's over it's 30 minutes of the program and i did say i would call out unprofessionalism
Starting point is 00:34:46 with nia jacks she went to bonsai the both of them stacked on top of each other and Naomi moved and Nia Jacks just I can't believe she didn't pop both of Jade's implants. What the fuck? That, there is two reasons I can think of
Starting point is 00:35:07 why that you would bonsai drop somebody in that fashion. You don't give a fuck or you don't like them. And don't give a fuck is usually reserved. Well, he's a job guy. We'll never see him again. Don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I got to get him. it over and don't like somebody as well, I'm going to show this fucking, Jesus Christ. I would, and then it was 16 minutes until the next match started, and there wasn't even a big live in-ring interview. Brian, have you sat down with a watch on Smackdown or Raw lately and seen how long it is between things that happen that don't really fucking matter to begin with? I haven't. You've mentioned this a few times lately. You've been walking around a lot with this stopwatch, haven't you?
Starting point is 00:36:02 I get, well, you know, because I got man, boy, I didn't even get to tell you at the top of the program about the badass battery operated leaf blower I've got. But more on that later. They had a match with our truth, more on him later, against old J.C. Mateo. And how old can you Google? How old is, the former Jeff Cobb because they said he was in the 2004 Olympics. 42 years old. Jesus Christ. I think maybe they ought to say former Olympian
Starting point is 00:36:37 because you wouldn't have thought that, but it calls your attention to it. And he beats, oh, our truth in minutes, and he's not bad. He has a nice finish. But basically the story through the whole thing, the reason to watch Smackdown is for the 10, minutes that Solo and Jacob Fatu have an argument and eventually they're going to break up.
Starting point is 00:37:00 But besides that and the four tag teams, now with Candy Laroo, the street profits, the Motor City machine guns, Champa and Gargano, now with candy, and what the meth head and masked man, they had an argument until all the lights went out and then the Wyatt goofballs came back and beat everybody up and that was the first hour of the show. And then I'll do you better than that. The next half hour was Javon Evans and Phoenix against the lucha heels,
Starting point is 00:37:41 which started 22 minutes after the last match had ended and went over 15 minutes until Ethan Page, screwed the baby faces. And then we were an hour and a half into the show. Brian said it's easier if you keep an eye on the watch instead of the program. We got Zelina against Alba fire. There's no way you watch that.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Of course I didn't. And then we got an in-ring promo with Damian Priest and he's finally beaten Drew McIntyre. He is not connecting with this living on the street gimmick? Is it because nobody on the street has custom-made leather outfits or what is not, they've tried to draw on his legitimate background of being fairly impoverished or living on or near a street?
Starting point is 00:38:40 I don't fucking know. But is he too, is he too clean? Is he too gimmicky? What is he? Is he, is he? What the fucking? working here. Because people ain't getting into it. I don't know exactly. You know, sometimes it feels like guys are made top guys or pushed to beat top guys just because of their size and everything,
Starting point is 00:39:03 when sometimes maybe they would be better with another person. I think Priest with Judgment Day was one thing. Him as that group's leader or muscle worked. Him on his own, what are you getting behind. He's a baby face and you got to get behind him. What are you getting behind exactly? You know, he's won some big matches and Drew's not going to be around for a while, I guess. But there's nothing interesting about him. I mean, again, I said it before. Even his gear, just everything. There needs to be almost like a complete revamp, which is crazy. They put the belt on this guy, but it doesn't connect with me at all. Priest is one of these guys at this point now that causes me to look away or change the channel, just because I'm not. Look away. I'm hideous.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I'm hitting this. The Met game may be on one of the other monitors in here, but it's just it's not interesting stuff. If you look at Damien Priest in the face, you'll turn to stone. I mean, you know, there's a lot of tools there, and obviously they've seen that, and that's why they're trying,
Starting point is 00:40:04 but I don't, maybe it's that he has not felt comfortable, or to me he doesn't look like he feels comfortable and doing what he's doing as a single now, et cetera, et cetera, whereas, like you said, with a bunch of, with a bunch of his buddies, maybe he is a buddy buncher, where you got to bunch him in with the buddies. Can I, can you trademark buddy buncher real quick in case,
Starting point is 00:40:33 and in, buddy bunkers? We can call the women's division carpet bunchers. Buddy bunchers and carpet munchers coming soon to a store near you. That trademark. Well, any of that make the final cut? I don't know. This is your Smackdown review. Well, you'll have to run it through legal.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Well, yeah, we could definitely say Travis don't use it, but go ahead. Yeah, well, and good, me shopping for produce. I loved it, Travis. Thank you. So anyway, we were at 10 o'clock. And they have the Money in the Bank qualifier, Fatou and Andrade and Carmelo Hayes. and I love Jacob Fatu, but a 20-minute three-way with two job guys, and I'm good. We get to the meat of the matter.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Is it solo and old, the former artist of Jeff Cobb or whatever comes out? And they do a few things back and forth, boom, boom, boom. But when Jacob moonsaults old Andrade solo jumps up, he's like, do it again, do it again. and he distracts from the things and they get mad and Jimmy Uso appears and attacks J.C. Mateo and Andre bumps Jacob out and Solo beat Carmelo 1, 2, 3. So now Jacob is not happy with Solo or the other guy, and he's also nodded that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 There's more top stars about to not be in the money in the bank than there is in the money in the bank. I wonder what's in the bank. Should we open up that vault, get into that safe deposit box, see exactly what's in that bank? So by then it was 1030. I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, there's been different things I've seen online circulating recently that Triple H is not a fan of money of the bank. And people thinking that maybe this will be another one of these things in WWE, that Triple H gets away gets rid of gets away.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Gets away with money in the bank. Do you think money in the bank's been established at this point where they kind of have to do it? or do you think it should go away? Should it change? What are your thoughts on it? You don't have to do anything. Some many things you should do. Have WrestleMania next year.
Starting point is 00:42:53 That's probably a safe bet. But the money in the bank thing, besides the fact that it's been overdone to begin with, think about this. At first, the idea was, well, whoever climbs it and gets the, we'll get a shot at the top. Well, then there became two titles.
Starting point is 00:43:13 There became multiple champions that you could challenge. And then now every time they do something with the guys, they've got to do it with the girls. So it's just, I don't know if it's special enough anymore at this point in time to make any big difference. But I think they can definitely, they could probably downgrade it. Is that the word for draw it back a little bit to where it's a TV,
Starting point is 00:43:42 over the course of the summer and use the pay-per-view for something else newer and fresher they might come up with, especially now since it doesn't matter. Everybody's going to buy everything and they get paid whether they buy it or not. But just, I'm unexcited. Just same thing, a bunch of multiple man matches on TV to get into a goddamn multiple man match. and that's where we've seen that before. It's the same old song,
Starting point is 00:44:19 but with a different meaning since you've been gone. All right, well, that was the answer to your question. Oh, is that, no, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Come on. Because then we had to sit through Cody and fucking see, no, wait, first out, I'm sorry, in order here.
Starting point is 00:44:41 The last 30 minutes of this show, was another promo. They had a promo so long they had to take a commercial break in the middle of the fucking promo. So Cody's out first there forever and then introduces Yeat. And they, it had already been going
Starting point is 00:44:59 so long they had to take a break during the fucking entrance. And then they came back and they were milking the yeats and then they brought the music down. And then Jay is this? started back up and they played the music again.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And by the time that John Sina's music started playing, they had seven minutes on the fucking air and he spoke two minutes later when they had five minutes on the air. And by then they just, they say a couple of things to each other. And he, Sina introduces Logan Paul who has an entrance. And there were three minutes on the air. And Logan Paul does a good, he, old promo, but everybody's just standing and the fans were chanting, shut the fuck
Starting point is 00:45:47 up, and yes, at him, but that's the way I felt. And just when Logan Paul's about to say something pithy to Jay Uso, my DVR froze. And I understand they exchanged
Starting point is 00:46:03 a flurry of their various moves about two or three times after talking about it for 30 minutes and then everybody left. But Brian, is that worth three hours of seriously how devoted do you have to be
Starting point is 00:46:19 to sit there on any night of the week for three hours to get that out of it what do you think of the news that they're not going back to two hours remember we originally told us back Oh god damn that's right yes oh you son of a bitch
Starting point is 00:46:35 Smackdown was always two hours They went to three hours at the beginning of the year When they went to USA we were told at the summer at the summer. In the summer, they would be going back to two hours. Now they're announcing that probably because of the advertising revenue, they're not doing that. I know. I just heard that. You just reminded me of it. Because I just heard that. And now I hate you too. Much like every other Friday of now of my life that I, well, actually, I don't watch it on Friday because you can't watch it live. Jesus. H. Christ. There's,
Starting point is 00:47:10 if you're accused of terrorism they would tie you down and just make you watch the in-between travelogue and spots and commercials and merchant as sputnik monroe would say the rags the rags the paper and the pens that they're selling you to get to anything anything that was smack down oh boy another winner that was my thoughts another winner another winner from the WWE, those wonderful guys behind WWE, smackdown there. But that is why that we go into more detail sometimes, because yes, something's happening in AEW in the same way that something happens when a railroad trestle collapses and a train goes off the
Starting point is 00:48:03 fucking precipice. But over on the other side of the street, it's like a guy, damn television version of Somas. Well, Jim, WWE seems to have it down. They are selling lots of tickets, making lots of money, charging more than ever before.
Starting point is 00:48:22 A fortune. It's becoming a bigger and bigger story, it seems like, all the time. Yet, everyone could still use a little help selling. Everyone could use the right person, the right partner online to make sure you get your products into,
Starting point is 00:48:38 into, or in front of, The right eyes. Or sometimes into the proper people. Into the eye. The eyes. We're speaking about the eyes. Well, you don't want to stick it to somebody's eye. You can put somebody's eye out with stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Once again, we are professional and professionally speaking. Everyone can use some help with their online commerce. And Shopify is here for you. Well, yes, Brian. And again, depending on what you're manufacturing, it may very well be that the, this item is going to go in the consumer. So you,
Starting point is 00:49:14 but wherever, whether it's in you, on you, or in your periphery, the thing about it is, folks, you want to make some money. You want money and you want it now. Money, money, money, money. That makes the world go around. Let's say you got a dream.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Let's say you've got, you've got aspirations. I'm not talking about the kinds you need to take oxygen for. I'm talking about the dreams and the hopes of being a big business typhoon. And you need a commerce platform. And you need a website. And you need help with product inventory and payments and analytics.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You need the business people to help you run your dream to turn it into reality. And that's where Shopify is your one-stop shop. Now, if you do not have a brick-and-mortar Shopify store in your location, I believe they're now in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and Fresno, I believe. But you can just go to Shopify.com. Because that's where you're going to hear that type of thing come into your life. The cash register signifying you're going to make some money, folks, because Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They're the dark overlords by. it and growing. And they give you help with hundreds of beautiful ready-to-go templates to express your brand and style. You don't have to learn how to do all this code stuff. Remember, Brian, the code people will send people to stay in your walls and spy on you. So you can bypass all this stuff. That was never confirmed, but let's get back to our friends at Shopify.
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Starting point is 00:51:34 As a matter of fact, did it not win a legal battle with Barney the Diamond? that now that Barney has to change colors? You didn't hear about that. I haven't even seen Barney. Is Barney still a thing in society? I have not heard of seen Barney. Well, he's a dinosaur. Goddamn, you know, they live forever.
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Starting point is 00:53:19 Shopify.com slash JCE. Well, Jim, I think it was just a few weeks back. We talked about a round of WWE releases that had happened and what the future of those wrestlers would be. And people were surprised over the last few days, a few more releases. And I guess the timing of it, really surprised people, but a lot of people are also surprised by the outcry on social media.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Let's talk about it. The first one, our truth, are truth Ron Killings being released by WWE? Well, in actuality, release is technically not the right term. He's not being renewed. His contract is up, whereas I think the other folks, they were at a period in their where their out clause could be exercised or whatever for the WU. office, but with our truth, here's the thing I understand why they wouldn't want to sign a 53-year-old guy to a two- or three-year contract, a guy that they've done marginally
Starting point is 00:54:27 nothing with for quite a while, except for right now. And even still for right now, let's say you don't want to, you don't want to, you. You don't want to go to him and say, okay, our truth, you know, this has been great, so we want you to wrestle for us for three more years, you're 53 years old. He might not want to do that, but why, since they did this, and it is a perfect time to do it, not only because apparently they're losing our truth, but they know they're losing Sina. And we said to Saturday Night's main event, it was a good little TV match, and it fit the story that they've told for a while on and off, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:55:08 But he was the number one t-shirt seller of the week from one report that I saw. And why wouldn't you go to him and say, okay, look, we don't want to sign you for however much money you've been making per year for three more years. But we just did this thing and you're selling merchandise and the people like you more now than they have in a while. It's one of those things that happens. so let's sign you to a lesser contract and don't work as much. We still do in the merchandise, show up on raw every couple weeks. So work 25 times a year, we'll pay you several thousand dollars. And you're still with the company.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And we'll still do whatever the fuck and we'll sell t-shirts. And we'll see how it goes. In a year, maybe you've made enough money on t-shirts. You don't give a fuck. I have the tweet here that Ron Killings sent out June 1st, 1112 a.m. I'm sorry to inform you all. I just got released from WWE. I want to thank WWE for the ride,
Starting point is 00:56:18 but mostly I want to thank each and every one of you who was along for the ride. Thank you for all the love, support, and appreciation you have given me over the years. Thank you. And again, he's even saying, I was released. It's different.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They just, they didn't renew you. And he put that out Sunday morning, and it caused a public outcry. I mean, as much as you're going to get from wrestling fans of social media, but I was shocked how many people were upset about this. Again, I don't necessarily agree with the,
Starting point is 00:56:54 this person or that person deserves a job for life, but you did see a lot of that. Like, if there's anyone who deserves a job for life, it's him, you even started seeing, this would have never, happened under Vince. Vince would have never done this. What?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, you started seeing some of that. Again, people losing their minds. Vince got up on a wrong side of the fucking Ben decided to fire people sometimes. But no, see, this is, if our truth had been involved in the previous round of cuts before they shot the angle for the thing with Sena,
Starting point is 00:57:26 nobody would have been surprised, would they? Because he just ever was while on TV and a comedy thing and blah, blah, blah. But because of that, now that he's been focused on for a few weeks, that's where people were like, oh, shit. But that shows the problem with, is sometimes at the top. I don't know where or how far up the decision went. But the non-wrestling people that are more in charge of, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:58 contracts or talent budgets or whatever, not maybe realizing, well, there's a goddamn, this guy got hot all of a sudden. We might not be able to stretch it out three more years, but we can do something right now. Let's go back and let's modify that. Let's figure out a way to not do this right now. Or maybe, you know, Tony Kahn is like, oh, shit. If they let our truth go, I'll give him $3 million a year. And our truth is like, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And he just, you know. And that way they get it very. very different than Tony. And again, we should say that we don't know whose decisionist was. We don't know if this was TKO saying cut overhead, let alone cut overhead, make it him, or if it was Triple H saying this is the guy I'm willing to get rid of from my roster. I think a lot of people are saying this is Triple H's decision. But we don't know again if that comes from the top. Because even though they're making more money than ever before, they're also still cutting jobs, not just wrestlers, but people in the office of all these companies,
Starting point is 00:58:56 they own now. Well, that's why I'm saying if they were reticent to sign a, even of whatever he might have been making, because he's been there a long time, maybe they've raised him up into, I can't imagine it'd be Brown's Strongman level, but you know what I mean, but okay, take a little less, work a lot less, and let's keep the merchandise going.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And you're coasting now in your 50s, but maybe he's thinking, or maybe he knows, who knows, that Tony Con will give me whatever I want. I won't argue with them. They don't want to renew me. Fine. I'll be right over here.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And we'll talk about that in a second. The idea should Tony Kahn sign him just because of how much TV he's been getting recently and everything else? But, you know, Mariah May has apparently been removed from the roster officially now. People expect her in WWE. She's been off TV for months because Tony expected her to go to WWE. Is this WWE's way of doing the opposite of that? I mean, Ron Killings may not have known he was going to be released, but they, I doubt it was a spur of the moment decision. they knew he was going to be released.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Let's get the most out of him that we can. Yeah. And then just get him off TV, get him out of the company, I guess. But it's obviously the opposite of what Tony Kahn's done. Are they wrong for trying to maximize something on the way out? Should they stop what they're doing? The Billy Graham rule. Hey, something else is happening here.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Let's try to do this instead of a pre-planned thing. What do you think? No, they, obviously, if they weren't. weren't going to renew Ron Killings than the thing would be to get something out of him on the way out and well, Cina's leaving too, but we could do this thing. We got time. Blah, blah, blah. It's not a revolutionary thing. And at the same time, they would honestly realize in the W.W.E. Office that even if they put Ron Killings on television, getting beat by John Cina, and then, you know, thrown off the fucking bridge or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It's not like handing Tony Khan a game changer for fuck's sake. It's not like if Tony, if Tony went out and signed our truth tomorrow and he came in as, you know, are no lies. I don't know what, you know, they've got trademarked. Ron Killings, probably. Ron Killings, who tells no lies. It would get a huge pop from the audience they already have.
Starting point is 01:01:38 And that's not disparaging our truth, but he is not a person who could bring on the strength of his own personality hundreds of thousands of people to the show, to the viewership of the show, to make a difference in the numbers, whatever the case, the people that already are watching that show would love, ah, they hired our truth because those bad men over there fired him because he's only been there for 20 years. But then he'd be doing the same shit
Starting point is 01:02:09 that everybody else is with the same people that everybody else is, the same thing happened to him and everybody else has. I guess that's the thing. If they signed Ron Killings, do they bring him in and let him do the kind of comedy stuff he's been doing in WWE? Is that what you'd want?
Starting point is 01:02:20 And is that what he would do? Well, and I'll be honest, for comedy, if you're going to do comedy, he's the best one at it, because you almost find yourself being sucked into that this guy could literally be that fucking stupid, right? He does it so well.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Or he goes to TNA. You know, I think T&A would probably be better for him because he'd be a bigger fish in a smaller pond. But at the same time, you know, Tony's predilection for signing up somebody that's the current darling of the internet. And Tony's got a, as he said himself, a bigger checkbook. But that's the thing. It's not horrible of the WWE to let a guy go that's in his 50s that has been there for
Starting point is 01:03:14 literally nearly 20 years, I think. Having said that, the timing was so odd because, he's actually more important now, temporarily, just off of this, but then he, more visible, more popular, more over whatever, than he has been for the last several years, right at this time. Because as I said, if they'd done it, you know, six months ago, nobody would have thought anything about it. Well, Jim, on the heels of the news that our truth was leaving WWE,
Starting point is 01:03:52 in another tweet, I'll read this to you. this was sent out by Carlito my contract is up in two weeks it will not be renewed on top of that WWE is demanding I pay back the money they paid me for apparently quote stealing money from the company
Starting point is 01:04:10 I've had my lawyers look into it and after reviewing my footage on Netflix for the past months they suggested I pay them back the money all jokes aside Grasias WWE and especially the WWE universe Los Chiro Mucho
Starting point is 01:04:28 P.S. I'll appear again in another 13 years. Dios milos Bendiga. So Carl Leo... I'm not sure what some of those things mean. They say he says here that he has been released, his contract is up in two weeks, it won't be renewed. He wasn't on Raw
Starting point is 01:04:46 the next day. So I guess maybe the two weeks went into effect early. Yeah. Well, because then here's the thing once they've told a guy he's released he generally won't be on television again even if the contract is up in two weeks or whatever because in the past a time or two somebody has you know suddenly become injured and they had to pay more money you know but with Carlito and by the great sense of humor uh from Carlito take off on an old Ernie Ladd fucking line.
Starting point is 01:05:23 He's had a nice, what, two-year run since he came back on that the Puerto Rico pay-per-view and he looked in better shape than half the guys on the roster and they signed him and had him do the thing
Starting point is 01:05:39 in the Judgment Day. They've never pushed him like a fearsome singles competitor on his own, but he was a valuable member of the cog in the wheel of the group and the judgment day and you know he's looked good and when he's had to work he's as we've mentioned a couple times done better than most of the fucking guys had been on the roster for a while but are much
Starting point is 01:06:03 younger but he's what almost 52 so i don't mean 52 the number but almost 50 also i think so it's not really a surprise and i don't know that he expected because he's taking it was such good humor. I don't think he thought it was going to be a longer term thing. He was probably like, what, you're going to bring me back when he heard about it? He's actually 46. He's my age. See, they're almost 50. It's all downhill from here. You know, I have to say, I didn't expect much, but I enjoyed him in the Judgment Day. He actually is a character who really didn't do anything. They barely gave him anything to do.
Starting point is 01:06:46 He was one of the more enjoyable parts of the Judgment Day segment. I really didn't say. So, yeah, I'm not surprised, but I did enjoy him on this run. I guess I'm a little surprised that they decided, because they're still doing all this stuff with Judgment Day, to just drop Carlito, but I guess that's what they've done. What is the current local wrestling scene like in Puerto Rico? Because the hurricane and the pandemic and blah, blah, blah is,
Starting point is 01:07:18 I mean, he's obviously in the royal family down there, but do they have a company there these days? Does he have options to go home and work if he wants? I'm sure there's something. I just don't know if they actually draw or make money right now at this point in 2025. I know we have some listeners down there, though, so anyone who is actively going to shows in Puerto Rico and knows what's up, get in touch with us, let us know.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yeah. What is going on and is because you never hear anything anymore about guys, oh, so-and-so's in Puerto Rico. Well, you don't hear that anymore. Well, Carlito, Caribbean Cool, leaving the judgment day. I for one, we'll miss him on this show. I enjoyed this run. One last one here, Jim.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Valhalla has announced she has left WWE. Well, I didn't know she was still there. Valhalla was coming. Now I guess she's going. Yeah, Valhalla is coming. Valhalla is here. Valhalla's gone. Well, that's the roster update, Jim,
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Starting point is 01:10:59 don't jam out too. You'll poke your eye out with that thing. And the Racon every day, that's who I'm talking to, those people, Brian. They're running around with utensils and... Running around poking people's eyes out. out with forks, and barbecues. Don't stick anything anywhere,
Starting point is 01:11:16 but put those Raycon earbuds in your ear and listen to the fine sounds and you can be hearing from your favorite songs, your favorite artists, your favorite podcast. Jim, we have a great spirit going. Let's keep it up. Yes, you know, sometimes you don't just want to stand there out in the backyard and listen to the traffic
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Starting point is 01:12:56 For great sounds? Sausless. That's right. Jim, one more time. You've thrown me off, but let's get to the sauce. Let's get away from the sauce and get to the meat of the matter. Raycon! Yes. Jim?
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yes. What's that promo code? Buy Raycon.com slash JCE. Sauce not allowed. All right. We're having a good time here today. So let's ruin that. Jim, Monday Night Raw transpired last night as we are recording.
Starting point is 01:13:31 A lot of people love it. A lot of people get mad when I don't thoroughly review it. I'm not crazy about the show right now. I'm not really happy with WWE. Right now. I'm not enjoying it as much. But let's talk about last night's wrong let's get your thoughts on it well there were this was a show where there was
Starting point is 01:13:50 actually maybe 20 minutes or so of stuff to watch they they sprinkled it out through the program basically it's the main event angle with with punk and sammy and jay and seth and bronson and and and Braun and Paul and Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice, that's what, at least on this show, instead of just teasing something at the start and then paying it off at the end and you having to sit through two and a half hours in the middle, they actually kept it interconnected with some other things
Starting point is 01:14:26 through the course of the evening. So I like that, but again, otherwise, you got these, what, six guys and that's the thing that you're watching for and the rest of it's in the middle. And a lot of it is the talking of the thing. But they started out with Punk's promo and he's over and they chanted
Starting point is 01:14:51 and talking about going to money in the bank because there's a qualifier later on tonight. And hey, with Jay, it wouldn't be personal, it'd just be business. But with Sina, who sold his, is sold to a bald fraud goof. Just any chance that punk gets to remind the rock that he's a bald fraud goof. Even when it,
Starting point is 01:15:16 it obviously didn't really need to go there, but he just wanted to remind everybody. So he's going to get Sina and then Sammy's music played. And Sammy came out, of course, as the Henry Kissinger of this whole company, where he's always trying to get everybody together and the common cause and see the big deal. It's good to hear that punk is full of confidence
Starting point is 01:15:44 because Paul Lee's bunch took him out of money to bank, but punk, you've got to win tonight. Don't think about them, don't worry about me, stay focused. We all need you to win tonight. Or this place will be unrecognizable as Seth is champion. why it'll be almost as bad as it was when he was champion a year and a half ago. See, this was a little, it's like they're all in dire straits because it's almost like Donald Trump would be elected president of the United States
Starting point is 01:16:16 or some kind of dire consequence like that if Seth would be the world champion again. But it's for the story. So they did that and set that up and Sammy's root. for punk and punk's got sammy's back and they're all just happy and then brian for an extended period of time every time that i've on this netflix with no on screen fast forward that they would go to a break or a spot or whatever i said well let me just skip ahead four or five minutes again and you end up in a commercial in a pre-tape in a merchandise spot in a travel log and a drone shot.
Starting point is 01:17:03 They had a three-way money-in-the-bank qualifier with Stephanie and Ivy and Liv, and Finn and J.D. wrestled the war Vikings. And they had a drone shot of New Jersey. And by then we were again an hour into this program. And then we get to see Sammy and Jay again. Mena and they have a tag team match with the bronze,
Starting point is 01:17:36 Reed and Breaker. And that'd be a great tag team match because I like all those guys. I like all those guys. Jay is a popular person, but his work eh. But they go to break in two minutes and they come back. They get some heat on Sammy.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And a kind of a blight tag. And then as soon as you know, fucking the baby face comeback start starts again, there's Seth out there and does the curb stomp on jail on the floor for the disqualification. But as they were going to kill Sammy, punk came out with a chair and saved the day. And apparently we're being led to believe that Seth thinks the plan is right. They go, we got them right where we want them.
Starting point is 01:18:23 And almost nothing happened again. I don't mean to be overstating this. but you're not there was a nice drone shot of Atlanta there's a nice drone shot of Tulsa they got drones everywhere what the hell what is going on with WWU they have like a drone army well they're getting money from the fucking city governments the drone shot of Los Angeles I think they should have paid extra for that that was extra nice with the palm
Starting point is 01:18:54 trees uh Richelle Rochelle wrestled Carrie sane or one foot 75 pound weight difference and then we got to the next money to bank qualifier El Chado Gabel Americano against AJ Styles
Starting point is 01:19:10 against CM Punk and of course you think the punk would be going on to money in the bank and they had a they had a three-way match and it was a three-way but it wasn't stupid and silly
Starting point is 01:19:22 like usual because all three have some pride in their their work. It was nice wrestling. It kept it going and they did a complicated back and forth finish. Everybody was there for in a number of false finishes. But finally,
Starting point is 01:19:40 punk hits the go to sleep on Gable and covers him and Braun pulls him out. And they get on Punk and here comes Sammy and Jay and have a big fight. And AJ dives on everybody and then springboards into the ring on Gable. but Gable had loaded his mask. Boom, met him with the headbutt, one, two, three. And it was a vague. So Gable's got, now the big stars are not in money in the bank. So they could have the actual match
Starting point is 01:20:10 that's going to draw the money to the money in the bank, apparently. If they're going to have the match, nothing's been announced. If they're going to have the match, but Punk then jumped bronze, Seth and Punk fought, bronze-speared Punk, Reed stopped Sammy, Seth stumped both of them,
Starting point is 01:20:26 Jay came back in, super kicked everybody, but Braun speared him and Seth stomped him, and then Reed hit Jay with the splash off the top rope twice. So I had some nice mid-south wrestling going on there at the finish. And so out of three hours, you got 20 minutes. And the rest of it is drone shots of downtown fucking Ashkosh. That was raw.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Yeah, look, the people there really seem to like it. And people watching at home seem to like it, like the commentary and everything, is just really an unenjoyable show for me right now. Not that Smackdown's any better. Smackdown has not been... Smackdown somehow became the worst show, yet also unwatchable to me right now. I don't want to see either one of them, but Smackdown, I want to see less than Raw right now. Well, but, and again, for the people who may not have come into the theater late,
Starting point is 01:21:28 I may not have heard what I said when we talked about Smackdown earlier. It's not that in most cases they're doing anything grossly unprofessional or nonsensical, or illogical, or unnecessarily dangerous, or just, you know, they haven't built any fake walls yet or whatever. For the most part, every once while somebody still gets dropped on their head as we saw. But it's just it takes forever for anything to happen. And most of the matches are either with the underneath guys when you want to see the top guys interact or the top guys that we get a minute and a half to break and come back and do the DQ.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And over on the other side is AEW where you cannot stop the carnage for a second to even count the fucking bodies. So it is quite a choice, but in all honesty, you see which one is making the most money, drawing the most money. The fucking WWE that has the stars and is giving them just the very bare minimum they need to to keep them coming back. And we'll see where that line is. As the prices go up and the amount of wrestling goes down, we'll see where they, hit the tipping point. You know, to go to something we talked about previously,
Starting point is 01:23:00 I asked you about AEW. And again, not even looking at who's on their roster, how they present it. It's just it's a number two, it's competition. WW is aggressively trying to fuck with them. And I said, AEW should use the ticket price difference as something for positive marketing and promotion.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Look at how much they charge, look at how much we charge. I actually think they should use this too. Again, not to say we like all we see, but WWE on Raw and Smackdown gives you this much time of action. AEW gives you this much time of action. They should really push the us versus them thing,
Starting point is 01:23:41 start doing it right now because it works and the divide is happening. And I think it's a smart thing. It's the kind of thing that gets people to want to rally behind AEW or really rally behind any kind of competition. You know what? It's like the fancy French restaurant that charges high prices and the portions are very tiny. It tastes delicious, but there's almost nothing there and it'll break you.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Whereas across the street at the greasy spoon, you got a 50-50 chance of getting tomean, but you could eat all you want. Yeah. But I mean, if you're not even, if you're just like, hey, we're here, come see us. It's one thing. If it's, you can go get that filet mignon over there, or for us, $5 gets you in the door, all you can eat burgers, free drinks. Bring the family dog, we'll feed the dog too. Bring the pigs, we'll slop them, we'll eat everything. But again, notwithstanding AEWs,
Starting point is 01:24:40 booking, roster, whatever, as a competitor to WWE, should they be using these things publicly to tell the wrestling fans who aren't on Twitter all day, the people who are actually going to buy tickets in these different towns? Well, yeah, it all, honesty, you've got to be careful because that does open
Starting point is 01:24:57 you up to the backlash of the jokes of, yeah, of course you don't charge any money. It's not worth anything. And you know, and you don't want to market yourself actively as the Walmart of the wrestling industry. But if you can, as you said, turn it around and hey, we're reasonable. We're in line with other major sports entertainment. These guys are price gouging or, you know, whatever, or the elitists
Starting point is 01:25:28 at the WWE think that everybody could afford $2,000 to take Junior to his first fucking raw taping or whatever. You could probably get some mileage with that, but they're not, the whole AEW organization
Starting point is 01:25:45 is not long on subtlety and sticking to a talking point. They got a slapy in a face was a handful of shit and they're all over the page. So I'm not sure what it would turn into if they tried to do it. Well, they got to do something. And what they're doing right now is holding the line. But again, if you want to, if you want to fuck back with the person,
Starting point is 01:26:11 fuck him with you, you got to do something eventually. And I think those may be effective things because it's a reality. But I don't think TKO was people just nonstop talking about how they're pricing everyone out. they want it to happen they don't want the conversation yeah they don't want people to acknowledge it in public they just want to do it and get away with it well jim i have a couple of emails here before we get to the roster i want to ask about this one because it made me laugh this was sent to corny drive-thru gmail dot com from brian in we're all england
Starting point is 01:26:44 hope you guys are well i have a three-part question for jim in relation to Flesh Gordon, who had several tryout matches in the WWE back in the early 2000s. Did he say Flesh Gordon? That's what he said. Was Jim ever aware of this guy in WWE developmental? Did he spend time in OVW?
Starting point is 01:27:09 Have you seen his dark match on Smackdown versus Sin Bodie, among other matches? Thank you. Do you remember a wrestling name? My first thought was he confusing? Flesh would flash? But then I was like, did Flesh Flanagan do this? No, no.
Starting point is 01:27:27 And there was a Flesh Gordon movie that was I think in the late 70s when they were still shooting porn on 35 millimeter. It was a big budget. Oh my God. Flash Gordon takeoff. There is a wrestler named Flesh Gordon.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Okay. Flesh Gordon. I'm afraid to ask what his gimmick is. Well, Flesh Gordon, who is a French wrestler. His real name is Gerard Hervey. He has been a dominant fan favorite. Is he a brother of Jason Hervey? He's been a dumb. Why did that get me? He's been a dominant fan favorite in France since the 1980s when his matches began airing on national television. Since the 1980s, how old is this fucking guy? He was born June of 53. He's 71 now. Jesus Christ, did this guy just asking if
Starting point is 01:28:21 We was in OVW or something? What did he say? In the early 2000s, let me see if it says anything here by WWE, having practiced boxing from the age of 14, as well as pancreation, in the 1970s he went to Mexico and discovered Lucha Libre. He started wrestling as super flesche.
Starting point is 01:28:40 By 1979, he returned home and made his debut on French TV wrestling, initially under his real name, but soon adopting the Flesh Gordon identity. he wrestled for the FFCP regularly teaming with Walter Bords Oh well if he's okay with Walter he's okay with me with whom he held the FFCP French tag team championship later in the decade he would team with Prince Zephy
Starting point is 01:29:07 he became a regular on Eurosports new catch program also appearing in Wales for Welsh Channel S4C's Reslo Wrestling Show and home video releases by German CWA. Now I know them. The point is if this guy was born in 1953, what fucking, how old was he, did they think he was going to be in OVW
Starting point is 01:29:33 or get a tryout or be a developmental or whatever the fuck, and he was in his 50s? He became the European champion in 1988, the World Light Heavyweight Champion in 92, and then created a wrestling school. In 95, the Belgian TV show Strip Tees devoted an episode to him entitled Flesh Gordon, and the fireman.
Starting point is 01:29:52 He's been wrestling for French wrestling promotion wrestling stars since its creation in 2001 and holds the position of national technical director. So you don't remember Flesh Gordon as much as you say. No, I do not remember old Fleshy. If I Google Flesh Gordon?
Starting point is 01:30:16 Is he still wrestling or is now is he just a technical director? Also, it says here, Flesh Gordon is a 1974 American superhero sex comedy, which is a spoof of the Universal Pictures Flash Gordon serial films of the 30s. All right, I've not seen that smut.
Starting point is 01:30:33 I'll see if we could find a copy of that. But no knowledge of Flesh Gordon. What do you think of the name, Flesh Gordon? Well, for a porn movie, I think it's pretty fucking neat. For a wrestler, not so much, I don't think. Because, again, what... How would you go out and portray that?
Starting point is 01:30:52 You'd be dressed up as a space traveler, except that you're fucking thrust in your dick in people's face? I don't know what... Flesh Gordon. Well, Jim, our next email was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com. This is from Daniel. Hello, Jim and Brian. I'm wondering if either of you know the first heel commentator in pro wrestling
Starting point is 01:31:16 or when the concept originated. Besides Lawler, Ventura, and Neutral. Heenan, I don't think it works well. People aren't interested in what happens next week when the commentators explaining how much the babyface deserved to be beaten with a baseball bat by 12 guys. Triple H owes much of his success to Jim Ross, who sold the outrage and disgust over the actions of the cerebral assassin. So, Jim, heel commentators, who was the first, and what do you think of the concept overall? Something you have done. well first of all who was the first who was the first anything really and what do you count do you
Starting point is 01:31:56 because it's a tradition in tv studio wrestling in many if not all of the territories going back a long time that every so often you'd have a guy sit in on commentary on a match involving somebody that he was going to be facing if it was a heel then he was technically he was doing heel commentary and they would work shit off of that and Eddie Graham had guys do commentary a lot on Florida television and that's what Watts did the same thing in Mid South as far as a regular weekly heel of opinionated broadcaster people think that Jesse was the first but Piper was technically doing it in Atlanta in what was that, 81, well before,
Starting point is 01:32:50 was it 81 or 82? He was definitely doing it in 82. He may have started at the end of 81, I'm not sure. But he was definitely doing it in 82. And while he was noted as a heel when he started and he would take up for the heels, he gradually, he didn't pour it on like he was an active wrestler
Starting point is 01:33:11 because they made him strictly an announcer. And then when he started getting into the fucking angles, That's when, you know, he not only was more heelish, but then also when later on we switched baby face. But can you think of anybody that was regular before that? Because most of the time in the territory days, you didn't want to put one of your talent roster on the announced desk every week for the entire show.
Starting point is 01:33:45 People got tired of them, it burn them out, whatever. but you'd always have the manager sit in every once in a while or another top guy. So I think maybe was Roddy the first time they used a heel, a heel point of view as the regular color guy every week? I think so. Because before that, there only been really retired baby faces in those kind of roles,
Starting point is 01:34:11 whether it was Anthony, Raqa, or, you know, L.A., they used to have Jules Stromba doing the interviews backstage. but it was never really like a Lord Layton you know it was never I shouldn't say never George Cannon was a heel and then he became a commentator for his promotion but that was his promotion but typically it was a retired baby face
Starting point is 01:34:32 who you'd see as a commentator not necessarily an active baby face and so that answers the question of who was the first and then when Jesse got over doing it and it was at the same time that the business was an all-around hot period, then other people started taking it and running with it. And that's why at one point in time, I did it, or Bobby Heenan did it, or Paul Lee did it,
Starting point is 01:34:58 or Terry Funk did it, or on and on and on Michael Hayes. So that's, but before it was always thought that your announcers need to play it straight. And because they're the salesman of your product, you don't want them to be, you know, just full of shit because they're your salesman. But in the early days, especially with Piper and Jesse early on and et cetera, and even me and Heenan, the heel guy would back up and try to be more of an announcer than a talent and constantly putting themselves over whoever they're affiliated with and take more of a broader look like, okay, I'm going to be, I'm going to be sympathetic to the heels,
Starting point is 01:35:46 but I'm kind of going to be more of an announcer. Those are the ones that had better success at it and the ones you got tired of quicker are the ones that just went out and did their same shit because as we mentioned, sometimes entertaining promo guys don't translate to entertaining commentators. Well, Jim, as we get ready to go to the main event,
Starting point is 01:36:10 the AEW roster review from K-on. Let's briefly, and there's no other way to do, this. Go over the pay-per-view card this coming weekend, premium live event, money in the bank 2025, the 16th annual Money in the Bank pay-per-view event from the Intuit Dome in
Starting point is 01:36:30 Inglewood, California. And by the way, I remember where if you had come to Vince McMahon with, here's the pay-per-view card and you had like two multiple-person matches and a couple more, and
Starting point is 01:36:46 where's the rest of it? And this is what they're getting away with now, right? Well, here's the card, and make sure you have your clock out for this event. I'd like to know how much time is in between these matches. A last chance match for the WWE Women's Intercontinental Championship, Lyra Valkyria, the champion, versus Becky Lynch. Here are the stipulations. if Lynch loses
Starting point is 01:37:15 she can no longer challenge for the title for as long as Valkyria is champion if Valkyria loses she'll be forced to raise Lynch's hand and acknowledge Lynch has the better woman otherwise that was the last chance match otherwise known as
Starting point is 01:37:37 you goddamn just did the job so go ahead and raise her hand I mean this could go either way because obviously Becky Lynch is a far bigger star than old lyric, but they're also friends and Becky's doing this to try to get her over. It ain't going to work, but I wouldn't be surprised because Becky doesn't need the women's intercontinental title if they don't do that. Lyric wins and Becky can't challenge for it until somebody else wins it and then everything's fine. Or maybe they'll go with some heat.
Starting point is 01:38:14 and make lyric raise her hand, and then Becky will turn around and kick a shit out of her. I don't know. And to paraphrase an old Abbott and Costello routine, I don't care. If Abbottom Costello saw the match, he might yell, chick! But, um,
Starting point is 01:38:35 Jim, speaking of the chicks here, going back to this match here, Jim, Lyra Valchuria, Lyra Valkyria versus Becky Lynch, last chance match. In terms of the Money in the Bank winner, do they only get the challenge
Starting point is 01:38:50 for a world title or is this title, also included they could challenge for the Intercontinental title? Well, yes, because they've said somebody on the guys' side just said, I could challenge you for something or other.
Starting point is 01:39:05 So theoretically, they can challenge for any title. They've established that. Let's now go, Jim, to the Money in the Bank matches. The Men's Money in the Bank ladder match for a men's championship match contract Solo
Starting point is 01:39:18 Sacoa versus L.A. Knight versus Penta versus Seth Rollins versus
Starting point is 01:39:27 Andrade versus El Grande Americano. Oh boy. And it would have been nice if they'd have
Starting point is 01:39:39 had more of the main event guys in the big money in the bank men's match, but then they would have have to stick a bunch of their stars in there that they wouldn't be winning. Obviously, Penta ain't going to win the thing, although I'll enjoy seeing him in the ring
Starting point is 01:39:58 with Gable again. Maybe Gable has learned the word receipt. But Andre, obviously, no, Gable, no, Penta, no, L.A. Knight, they're teasing us. And something's going to happen probably with solo and the, rest of his estranged family. Seth has got to win this. Does he not? He's the leader of the new top heel faction with Paul, with the two bronze. They look like the modern incarnation of a horseman type group. I don't see Seth not winning this thing, do you? Well, it seems obvious, but, you know, they do also have to find the way to get punk on this card. And punk O'S
Starting point is 01:40:45 Seth won from Monday, if Punk costs Seth money in the bank when it's clear that he's going to win, I guess Braun and Bronson are distracted by Sammy or who else, I don't know. And punk does something to cost Seth that it furthers their feud because technically they don't need, neither one of them need a belt. And again, it goes into the whole one screwed the other one. It's natural. But then it becomes who wins. Well, yeah, because if there were more main event guys in this mix, you'd say, okay, but who do we want to see of these other five get a title shot? Yeah, and of those five, who would use that title shot and actually win the title?
Starting point is 01:41:27 So we'll see. Seth Rowland seems like he'd be the pick, but also I think he probably has to get fucked over in some way on the card. But who knows? Maybe don't make Andrade in one night. Jim, the women's money in the Bangaladder match for a women's championship match contract. Alexa Bliss versus Roxanne Perez versus Ria Ripley
Starting point is 01:41:50 versus Julia versus Naomi versus Stephanie Vakair. Oh boy, well I mean again, obviously if we're going on star power, Ria is as over as all five
Starting point is 01:42:08 other young ladies combined. but they might want to do something with Naomi because of her and Bianca, Naomi's a vicious heel now. I mean, you know, the internet crowd is just a buzz over Stephanie and Julia, but are they going to draw any money? Are you surprised they got brought up
Starting point is 01:42:30 and I kind of incorporated into the main mix so quickly? Yeah. I mean, they're good. And I think Stephanie Vacker is very good. but still usually they keep those people in NXT for a while and I don't know who else has gone to NXT and come up this quickly. Yeah, I see, I'm not seeing they can wrestle.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I'm not seeing any fireball personalities or incredible promos or whatever, but I mean, besides again, Ria is the natural choice because she's the biggest star, but they've got Naomi at a program with Bianca. do you see, you know, any of the other girls challenging for the world title and any kind of money match? You know, say, hard to stand up to Ria. I think she ought to just beat the other five up and call it a day.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Ria does need a win at some point soon. I feel like we've seen her on the losing end a lot for someone who has to stay over, needs to stay over. She's good. Jim, the final match, the fourth match. A tag team match. Cody Rhodes and Jay Uso versus John Sina and Logan Paul. And I guess you would normally say, well, here's the big match where it's, you know, Brett Hart and somebody against the Undertaker or whatever, and that's a bigger draw
Starting point is 01:44:09 than the money in the bank matches. but they just announced this like last week. So I think they're just saying, fuck it, wherever we're at is paying us a bunch of money and the things sold out because the fans will buy the tickets no matter what we charge
Starting point is 01:44:24 and we're getting paid the rights fee for this broadcast, whether anybody buys pay-per-view or not. So fuck it. Four matches and here they are. And with the tag match, one with three, think that this would be Cody's opportunity
Starting point is 01:44:44 to do something important and either beat somebody or show some life. But we will see. Well, that's the premium live event from the Intuit... What is it? The Intuit Dome? It is a dome. How many seats are there in the Intuit Dome? Hold on. Intuit Dome seats. An undetermined amount of people, apparently.
Starting point is 01:45:12 They're not a number of people. anywhere here doesn't say the capacity. Well, is it one of the little it, bitty domes or one of the big bad domes? And do it, do it, into it, don't. Do it, and do it, do it, don't capacity. 18,000 people.
Starting point is 01:45:29 See, that's a little dome. That's a big arena, but a little dome. All right, Jim, well, let's now go to the main event here. Yeah, boy. The AEW roster review, we previously went through A3 as well as the women's roster. Any thoughts or notes before we continue on
Starting point is 01:45:49 with this review of the roster? Well, I think we got to bring people up to date. Basically, you can hear our thought processes behind the whole thing on YouTube. The clip is there reviewing the roster A through J or whatever. But we can't take the booking out on the talent because it's not their fault. and in some cases how they've been booked.
Starting point is 01:46:16 We're just taking the talent that I think that you could actually do something with in a serious real professional promotion instead of the, hey, kids, let's put on a show, All Friends Network. And it might be changing their presentation or baby face to heal or whatever. We'll determine that later on. But is there something with anybody? And I will real quick recap, we have kept Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, Samoa Joe, Powerhouse Hobbs, Anthony Bowens, AR Fox, Austin and Colton Gun, Bandito.
Starting point is 01:46:53 And by the way, we're keeping them all but not permanently. And some of them I'm on the fence about still. Big Bill, Brody King, Buddy Matthews, Cash Wheeler, Claudio. And you're on the fence too there, Brian. I'm not on any fence. I'm on any fence. No Claudio. You've fallen completely over into the pig pen.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Darby Allen, Dax Wheeler, Dustin, Hook, J. Lethal, J. White, Juice, Robinson, John Morrison, and Josh Alexander. And in the middle in potentially non-wrestling capacities, we've got Christian Cage, Billy Gunn, Adam Cole, Ariya Davari, and Jeff Jarrett. Yes. And the non- wrestling capacity is stay home. Well, no. they could be promoters, they could be trainers, they could be fucking producers.
Starting point is 01:47:48 We're talking about whether we keep people, but not how we use them. I would put Adam Cole in charge at a video game division. Well, he couldn't have done worse than Kenny. What happened to that thing, by the way? That's another clip. We're going to get bogged down.
Starting point is 01:48:03 That's another roster. And we have fired, well, hold on, we have fired John Moxley, Kenny Omega, because like I said, if you got two train chimps doing the same tricks, pick the youngest and the freshest one, and we've not got to Osprey yet. We fired John Moxley, Kenny Omega, Shepoopee,
Starting point is 01:48:22 Okada underlined, Solo. Who's so, that's not Solo, Sokoa. Aaron Solo. Aaron Solo. Action Andretti, Adam Page, because he's an empty-headed dip shit. Alex Abrantis, because we couldn't figure out what he does. Alex Reynolds. Angelico, Angelo Parko, Parco.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Angelico, Angelo Parker, and a go-go, is what I'm trying to say. B-Con, who is that? Is that Tony's brother? Bishop Congates of agony. Okay. Brandon Cuddler, Brian Cage, Brian Danielson, because we can't wrestle and he's gone apesh mentally over the end. indie wrestling crowd.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Brian Keith, Charlie Bravo, Chris Jericho, Christian Cage, as I said, up in the middle. Chuck Taylor, Colt Cabana, Edge, hate to say it. Danhausen, Daniel Garcia, Dante Martin, Darius Martin, Drillistico, Eddie Kingston,
Starting point is 01:49:31 Evaluno, Griff Garrison, Hologram, a Cassidy of some description. I've just got Cassidy here. Sean, David, one of you. Cassidy from a very he's that yeah he's their younger brother Jack Perry John Silver and Josh Woods that was the fired list and we just got to K now
Starting point is 01:49:51 and you keep saying we I would have kept Omega too but you know a few differences than yours well because you can't teach him and actually I'm rethinking Osprey after the interview that he did where he said oh bro we smoke we smoke the W.W. in every aspect of wrestling, except for professionalism,
Starting point is 01:50:16 drawing money, and gaining viewership. It's sometimes you can't, do you want an employee for your widget company that not only is not good at making widgets, but wants to make different fucking widgets than what the majority of the people want to buy? Sometimes you just can't teach these fuckers. Well, let's get back to teaching about widgets
Starting point is 01:50:38 here on Fantasyland. Continue with the list. Let's go to the letter K. I got the paper right here. Limitless Keith Lee. Fuck, I forgot about him. Apparently he just put out a statement too recently. Someone's like, hey, what's going on? He's like, I feel perfectly healthy.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I'm just waiting. What the fuck? Wait a minute. Every time he's gone, he says he's perfectly healthy. He comes back. We hear the story that he was near death. He looks near death. And then he goes away again.
Starting point is 01:51:08 And then he says, I'm perfectly healthy. healthy. I'm sorry, he's got to be perfectly gone. I just, I can't do this, the back and forth and the, the Frazier promo and the gray hair and the fucking whatever, there was something there. It's long since past.
Starting point is 01:51:24 See you later, Keith. Here's what it is, Jim, apparently. Someone on Twitter, I don't have their name here. I wrote, I hope Keith Lee is okay and doing well. I hope I will see him back in the ring. In hope, you are doing well health-wise. I am truly blessed to be one of the many to watch you in the ring, and hope to once again.
Starting point is 01:51:45 To which Keith Lee responded, You have my appreciation. I am quite well. Only time will tell when or where, but I am confident that time will come. Have patience, my friend. Lead with love, be well. This is a very nice man, I have to say. Very polite, polite man.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Jim back to the roster here. Kevin Knight. Kevin Knight, we got to keep him. There's something going on there. We would see more of him and maybe figure out something. Let's keep him. I agree, a good recent hire. What about Kill Switch, formerly Luchosaurus?
Starting point is 01:52:27 Oh, good Lord. If he ever does come back, I would suggest he leave again. Kill Switch, Dino Dush, whatever. If he was, Keky was, Keky was. of anything, we'd have seen it by now, a long time before now. And the only thing he's ever done has gotten away. Here's someone who looks like an evil Colin Thompson, aka Colin Thompson, super bad Kip Sabian.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Pip Sabian, yeah, Sionara, Pip. He was gone for about a year, just sitting in the crowd with a box on his head. That's the best work he's ever done. Jim, what about Commander? Oh, come on. you wouldn't want WWW to sign them why not Commander could be commanded to go somewhere else
Starting point is 01:53:28 again you've got well I mean I don't have the entire list in front of me you're reading it to me but we need to keep one of the gravity defying luchadors and I don't remember truthfully which is the best one if there's any difference is it commander is it hologram, is it pentagram, is it octogram?
Starting point is 01:53:51 The best one was Elio do Vikingo. Well, he's gone, isn't he? And now that guy has a good ticket to every WWE show, it seems like. Those are expensive things. You need one. I don't know. Maybe later on we'll go back and figure out who the best one. Bandito, I think that's why we put him down there.
Starting point is 01:54:07 He actually has the power to move a grown man around. All right. So wait and see on command. Commander, Jim the new Jim... No, I'm putting him down as he's gone. Oh, okay. Adios Commander is what I'm asked. Now that I've seen Bandito again, I'm reminded we've already got one. Jim, the NJPW never openweight champion from the Don Kowas family, Konosuke Takesta.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Keep him. We can start him over again under a different name with a different push. Maybe nobody remember what they've done to him so far. Did you see he just announced he got married? I did not. I wasn't actually looking for that announcement, therefore I didn't see it. You want to know who he married? I swear to God it's true. Oh, come on. Now, he didn't marry somebody that I would know who the fuck they are.
Starting point is 01:55:01 He married Yuka Sakazaki. I know you know that name because it's such a catchy name. It's fun to say. Yes, it's a catchy name. Well, maybe now she'll be barefoot and pregnant and give up the wrestling game. Well, Jim, you want to keep Takesha. What about Koda Ibiza? Abushi.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Now let's let him join Commander. Although, do we have a motorized wheelchair to help Abushi get out the door? You know, I would keep him just because I don't think he's going to be wrestling much, and I kind of want to see him. I don't know. You need a heel to really go over someone and make it look. There's just something about, like, the dirtiness of him
Starting point is 01:55:44 every time he walks out there with like that blank look on his face. And then we're told he's a great worker. Every time he's come out there, he's bombed. I guess perversely I want to see more, but I can understand why you'd get rid of him. Well, we'll let the perverts have a pick at the roster later on. Jim from the Don Callis family, Kyle Fletcher. We got to keep Kyle. Again, it's not his fault.
Starting point is 01:56:08 He's surrounded by a bunch of morons. He's improved his body. He's got the size. He's very athletic. He just needs somebody to teach him why he's doing all this shit. Would you keep Kyle O'Reilly from the Paragon? Yeah, we said we weren't going to hold booking against anybody. Purely as a performer, yes.
Starting point is 01:56:33 And again, you know, there's hope that people would forget if you kept some of these people hidden long enough, forget what they've seen before and you could reintroduce them. That was a good, hardworking, dedicated young man. What about the Murder Hawk Monster from the Don Callis family, Lance Archer? You know, again, if we're not taking the booking into account, just the whole stupid way that he's been presented for the entire five or six years or whatever, you could do something with him.
Starting point is 01:57:12 He's not going to be the world champion. Let's keep Lance Archer for right now. What about big shoty, Lee Johnson? and we'll put Lance Archer in the spot that's been vacated by Lee Johnson on his way out the door. Jim, what about the ring of honor? No size, no physique, no, what the fuck, interchangeable with all of these indie guys. What about the Ring of Honor Pure Champion from Shane Taylor promotions Lee Moriarty. Now that I'm trying to think, do I know the difference between Lee Johnson and Lee Moriarty?
Starting point is 01:57:51 Fire both of them. What about Leo Rush? from crew no keep that little weasel he's I agree he can he can talk
Starting point is 01:58:04 and he can work and he's got something he would again be one of the hottest managers in the history of the business if I was the booker what about the butler
Starting point is 01:58:16 Luther oh crick can we please send Eric von Stroheim to the motion picture country home. What about from the MXM collection, Mansour? And Monswey can go with him.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Whatever, what's the other guy's name? We have him here, too. He's under this MXM collection, Mason Madden. Yeah, well, both of them are, they're not John Madden, neither one of them. They're gone. That's just, no, that'll never be redeemable. Mark Briscoe. we're keeping him
Starting point is 01:58:55 obviously not even a thought in terms of crowd reaction and involvement with main things even though he's lost a ton he loses it seems like every single match do you think it's done anything to help the crowd reactions to him the fact that it seems like he's getting over more
Starting point is 01:59:14 right now than he has before in ring of honor in AWW even though he's been there for a while and obviously he had a lot of sympathy love from people and people like them anyway at the beginning, but it seems like right now it's kind of, not to say it's clicking, but it's clicking better than it has an AEW for him.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Well, yeah, because this is a thing that's taken out of the hands of the booking and is in the hands of the fans. And regardless of whether he wins or loses, at first they were sympathetic because of what happened with Jay. But since then, Mark is just so good every time you see him, that he's gotten over on his own merits, as he always does and should.
Starting point is 01:59:58 But now the people know that he's being mistreated and there's an extra, like, you know, yes, we like this guy and we want to show it because it's a sympathy fucking cheer. It's the same day. It's like when the Midd Out Express was getting beaten WCW all the time, the people cheered for us even more because they knew we were being fucked around.
Starting point is 02:00:21 They like Mark. to begin with, and they know that he's deserved much better than this. And so they're making their feelings known. But, you know, nevertheless, yes, you'd have to be a complete idiot, not to be able to understand that Mark Briscoe could be a major part of the roster. That's why the company is being run by a complete fucking idiot. Well, speaking of Mark's Jim from the Don Callas family, Mark Davis. I forgot about him.
Starting point is 02:00:55 He's the one with the giant fucking voluminous ass, isn't he? I guess you can say that. He chose to. I mean, he did one move one time that I really liked. I mean, it's just so bland and blah, but let's keep him for a little while and see if we can figure out anything. Mark Davis. From the premier athletes are representing them, smart Mark Sterling. Sorry. They somehow got him to refrain from hocking up the whole thing the other night,
Starting point is 02:01:31 but every time we've seen him, it's just he's a parody of a manager and a parody of a lawyer, and I think he needs to be a parody of an employed person. From private party, Mark Quinn. And you know what? He's the one that I said, the high-flying fellow. Get rid of the Martins, because they're always broke down anyway, and Mark Quinn would be the high-flying guy, but somebody commented, and I think it was on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:02:05 that we haven't seen Mark Quinn in a while, and he's been hurt too. Did he have to tone down on the flying stuff? Which was his raison de'etre, as they say. Keep Mark Quinn if he can still jump. What about Daddy Magic? Matt Menard. See if he can jump out to,
Starting point is 02:02:27 door. Jim, what about Eddie Max gone? Matt Seidel. Oh, come on. I mean, you know, he was a nice worker a number of years ago. We haven't seen him on TV and forever,
Starting point is 02:02:43 but at this point, age may be an issue. And also, he's small and does a lot of leaping like everybody else that we're trying to get rid of. I don't see a place for Matt Seidel right there. Do you see a place for Kingdom member Matt Taven. Where is he? Where the fuck is he?
Starting point is 02:03:04 Matt Taven at one point, in 2012, I think, we were trying to get him into Ring of Honor. He was the future of fucking wrestling. And he could do everything. And then, and now him and Bennett,
Starting point is 02:03:22 they've been hidden for so long. Yes, I'd keep Matt Taven. He's still young. and try to find him to determine what his strengths are these days. All right. What about EVP from the young bucks and the elite, Matthew Jackson? How quickly could we give him his termination? Can I hire him for two different jobs I can fire him from both of them?
Starting point is 02:03:50 If you were going to fire the bucks and you did it on air live, do you think it would help the show? Yes. I might make it pay-per-view. Well, then they may not show up. You got to surprise him with it. Well, no, I would know. I would say, hey, you assholes, you've got X amount of time on your contract.
Starting point is 02:04:10 If you want any of that money, you will come to this pay-per-view where we're going to advertise it. We're a fire your fucking asses in the middle of the ring and demand that you apologize to the fans for fucking up their only chance at a goddamn alternate wrestling promotion. All right, Jim, what about? I think people would buy that. would you buy Max Caster? I don't think so anymore. He was over for a while with the rap and the whole thing and he lost it. His matches were never his strong point.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Bowens has passed him in the kind of hardworking dedication category. I mean, what do you think? It's so weird because they were so hot. and then the breakup happened, the match happened, but it's almost like it didn't. Like nothing really, it's the weirdest like,
Starting point is 02:05:12 these guys were a team, they were teasing the breakup, then the breakup happened and everyone just kind of went their own way, and then Castor started losing in seconds, and then Bowen just reappeared one day, Bowens, excuse me, and beat him.
Starting point is 02:05:24 And beat him with Billy Gunn, and beat him. And then... In one minute. I don't think we've seen Castor again, and Bowens can't win a match. That was the feud. That was the whole breakup of the hottest tag team they had, be acclaimed, at least for a time. Jim, what about, yeah, let's cast, castor out.
Starting point is 02:05:42 What about Michael Nakazawa? Oh, for fuck's sake, he can't even still be employed there, certainly not. He is on the roster. This is their roster. All right, well, he wouldn't be anymore. I mean, that's a fairly foregone conclusion, a waste of time to begin with, and he was just because he was Kenny's jock holder and bag carrier. And he was the guy with the baby oil. So they can't bring him back now with the heat that baby oils got. So there you go. Just more joke fucking wrestling and friends,
Starting point is 02:06:20 stooge friends to get a job off of the billionaire. What about speedball Mike Bailey? Oh, boy. I mean, there are, there are so many people on this roster that I would just relish the thought of being able to fire in person. Hold on, I got to start another page here. Spitball Bailey. It would be. We're only an M.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Gone and forgotten. I'm on page three of firings and I've only just started page two on the keepings. What page does Mike Bennett of the kingdom go on? Mike Bennett goes back in the kingdom. keepings until I could at least see since he was a fabulous fucking in-ring talent 10 years ago and I saw them have some wonderful tag team matches more recently than that until they got under this umbrella. I would want to see Mike Bennett and what he's doing these days to determine if he can still
Starting point is 02:07:20 go, but my God, he's younger than some fucking folks and you don't see him. I don't know. I would probably give up on him and Taven based on the way they were used, the way people reacted to them. The lack of reaction, I think, is the big... But we said we weren't going to count booking, because that wasn't their fault, that we're going to just take the guy. And Taven and Bennett were an excellent athletic tag team that you could see working with FTR, that you could see working with Juice Robinson and old light switch Jay White, that you could say... Wrestling tag teams instead of small gymnastic children or big giant fucking fat schlubs.
Starting point is 02:08:08 You need some athletic tag teams in the upper middle of the card to provide a little action. It doesn't mean you have to goddamn make them the main event of the biggest pay-per-view of the year. Go ahead. MJF from the Hurt Syndicate. Let's keep him for now. Just for the sake of it. They have them here, but obviously we'll not be using them for the practice that we're doing here, compiling a roster, but Brody Lee and Brody Lee Jr., negative one from the Dark Order.
Starting point is 02:08:43 From the Hertz Syndicate, MVP. Well, MVP would be kept, but we got to put him in the middle as a manager rather than an active wrestler. A manager, agent, trainer, potential fucking judge of wrestler's court. from the young bucks and EVP also in the elite Nicholas Jackson Yeah let's get rid of him along with his fucking goofy brother as quickly as possible
Starting point is 02:09:11 That's what's caused a lot of this mess to begin with What about Nick Comerato? You know, maybe later if we were working on projects for years from now and et cetera, we could evaluate him but right now let's just not because he's been gone so long.
Starting point is 02:09:34 There's got to be something the matter with him. He just came back lost in seconds. We don't have this much time. The Ring of Honor World TV champion from the patriarchy, Nick Wayne. Oh, good Lord. I would be open to allowing him to return
Starting point is 02:09:53 when he can legally rent a car. Otherwise, you know, no physique. Kind of a moopy face. He's good. to be a stooge in a group or, but the way that they focused on him is some kind of second coming is just ridiculous. And unfortunately, he looks like
Starting point is 02:10:14 so much of the rest of the roster we're trying to weed that look out is they're just children playing wrestler and not somebody you would take seriously in a big budget promotion, maybe on an indie show. And he could spend some time there and get some wonderful experience.
Starting point is 02:10:33 for when he ever grows up and develops a personality. I'm sorry, continue on. Freshly squeezed, Orange Cassidy. Ha ha! Would be freshly squeezed right out the door. I mean, patience zero for the fucking joke of this whole promotion. How can we make wrestling seem as fake and silly and uninteresting as possible with a bunch of fucking,
Starting point is 02:11:04 what's the complete antithesis of the word tough, a bunch of soft-ass childish pussies playing with each other instead of men fighting. You look that up in the dictionary, however you might do that, and there's a picture of our little puppy pockets. He's not redeemable, and he's obviously has no discernible talent for major league wrestling. What about Ortiz?
Starting point is 02:11:37 Good Lord. When did we last see him? Has it been three years? I don't remember the last time, actually. I know Santana is in team. Santana left. He's in TV right now, yeah. He asked to get out of there.
Starting point is 02:11:55 And remember the bone of contention between them as a team was that Santana was saying Ortiz was content to just sit around and get paid and do what he was told. and Santana had higher aspirations. That's why he left. Do you think that Ortiz has still been sitting home just getting paid? Well, I sit at home when you could be flown into the show. I really don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:18 Wouldn't we have accidentally seen him in a backstage segment if he was still around? Again, we'll see what we can find out. I don't know that there's really, let's hold on. I'm losing my notes now. Let's take Ortiz out of. this equation because I don't remember what he looks like at this point. Well, Jim, what about Death Riders member PAC? Boy, that's a hard one.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Because physically, not only his look, but what he can do athletically, you would think there's some way that he could be used. But at the same time, he tries to do all the top rope shit that everybody else does and he's slow at it, and you have to stand there and wait on him forever. But as if he had a manager and it was in a group and he didn't have to talk, but he could just do his shit,
Starting point is 02:13:16 and he was focused on, let's keep pack. Just a completely different presentation, and he would mean something. And also he goes away for, I know they, nonstop. Who was it hurting just now? Oh, he was in a match?
Starting point is 02:13:34 It was his act? He buckled bombed him and broke his ankle, but who was it that? Oh, fuck, I don't remember now. So it's almost like a German suplexed this guy. He busted my head open. How many times you ever heard that before? I buckled bombed a guy and broke his ankle. What the f?
Starting point is 02:13:49 And that was like weeks after I said how I, the one thing I don't like about pack is that he always disappears for a period of time, whether it's injury or visa issues. And then he just reappears and attacks someone. He's going to do it again now. He's just going to all of a sudden reappear and they get hurt again or something. What about Paul White? Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I mean, he was supposed to be doing commentary years ago when they signed. He did do commentary on YouTube. But since when, for how long has it been since he is not? Well, the YouTube canceled the, well, actually, they didn't cancel anything. AW just stopped doing it. Boy, when YouTube cancels you, I'm not saying this for idiotic. other reason, then there's nothing for him to do, but we've got to get rid of him because there's nothing for him to do. What about Pretty Peter Avalon? Oh, Christ.
Starting point is 02:14:47 Pretty Peter needs to be, needs to Peter out. Pretty Peter is pretty gone. See, this is the kind of, again, just all these names of indie guys that never, never should have been involved in national television to begin with is what cluttered this show up from the start. Go ahead. Was Peter Avalon the librarian? Yes. Oh, no shit. He's been there that whole time. Wow.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Yes. All right. What about Preston Vance? Speaking of people that have been there forever. What about Preston Vance? God damn, he was rotting the other night, wasn't he? Yeah, he's gone. No personality, no look, no gimmit.
Starting point is 02:15:32 horrible name. Sometimes you can't tell if he's awake. The bleh. Prince Nanna. Prince Nanna would go in the middle with MVP in the manager's list and then one would look for someone
Starting point is 02:15:52 that Nana could manage that he could actually make successful so he'd have somewhat of a reputation as a manager and he'd get a chance talk every once in a while. but that's just pie in the sky. In the sky, Rickusay. Rickishay! Well, he's going to bounce back from this decision, I'm sure,
Starting point is 02:16:17 that Rickishay needs to go somewhere else. Really, you haven't seen enough of him as a heel to think, okay, there's something I could do with him? No, because he's an idiot, apparently, in real life, and doesn't understand that everybody thinks he's a goddamn nerd. And I mean, athletically, you know, you could do something with a chicken shit heel that acts like that and looks like that, except he has to know that he's being an annoying person instead of just being one and thinking that nothing's wrong. I don't think this guy's smart to the business. All right.
Starting point is 02:16:55 What about Roderick Strong from the Paragon? Boy, there again, you know, you could put Roddy in the ring with anybody and have a good match. He was definitely an asset 10, 15 years ago in Ring of Honor. He's getting older now and nobody has put any credibility in him whatsoever since he's been in this facocta company. He was just out there screaming people's names and wearing a neck brace and shit. But as an actual athletic performer, again, not to be the world champion, and but to have good athletic matches with other now younger guys that you want to push, I would keep Roddy.
Starting point is 02:17:46 Because he doesn't have to be at angles and cut fucking 15 minute promos, Roddy. Go out there and in a fucking stiff athletic fashion, I'd like you to put Colton Gun over in nine minutes for me. Boom, you don't have to worry about nothing. what about El Toro Blanco from La Faxione In Gobernales? Or actually, it's not paralyzed. Rush! He's the asshole that just beats the shit out of whole of baby faces, stands there and doesn't sell anything, isn't he?
Starting point is 02:18:25 It's called working. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. We got Bandito. We don't need Rush. I think he's got a bad attitude. Obviously, there's a lot of luchadores over the past 30 years that we've done. seen come up from Mexico and either have success or just at least be on US TV, where do you
Starting point is 02:18:45 fall on the names? Like obviously, to the fans of Roush, the name doesn't matter. Maybe it works better in Mexico, but to the average person, do you think it works as a name for a wrestler Roos? No. No, it doesn't. Nor, that's again, that's the thing, when you have one Luchador Ray Mysterio. And it's a cool Santa name and it's a cool mask and it's a cool outfit and he's a exceptional talent in a area that has not been or had not at the time that people saw him. Been overexposed and beat to death, small high flyer. It needs the package.
Starting point is 02:19:32 You can't just have these guys with these goofy names that don't translate that can't speak, that all look the same to the casual observer because they're all wearing mostly full body outfits and some kind of decorated mask, and they're doing the same style of shit and the same moves and expect any of them to get over no matter how good they are. You don't throw 10 people out there doing the same kind of shit, and hey, pick the best one. you say this guy does a different style
Starting point is 02:20:10 and different shit than everybody else on my roster and I'm going to feature him because he's the best one at it. I'm sorry. Rush can rush on out. Ring of Honor World Trade Team champion
Starting point is 02:20:24 Sammy Guevara. Boy, how do you kit? We know that he's kind of a dip shit. Do we want to put up with that? Has he grown up a little bit learned his lesson. He still, six years ago, we said he looks like he's 12 years old. That's been six years.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Now he looks 14. You know, let's keep him around because he has, if you could produce him, if you could avoid him having to tell us all at least one time per match that he's a crazy lunatic. I'm loco. Watch this. I'm loco. I'm going to do something stupid.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Go, stupid, go. Go, stupid. Go, stupid. it's just well I guess you'll keep him all right we'll keep him all right we'll keep him satinem sing
Starting point is 02:21:15 oh brother sorry satanum you've been sitting out so far and now you're going to be set out for the rest no not in this particular day and age can you take a guy that immobile just because he's that giant
Starting point is 02:21:32 and do anything with him and they didn't give it a real good try Do you think anyone will ever do a giant right again, or is it all depend on actually having the right person? It depends on the giant. You know, you can always say that, well, Vince booked Andre Wright, but not after that. But the thing is,
Starting point is 02:21:53 the number of seven-foot people in wrestling has drastically increased over the decades, as I guess has the number of seven-foot people in fucking in captivity in general. general. So the seven-foot giant now, and especially now that people are smart in such larger numbers, the giant needs to also be able to work. And people forget, Andre could work. Paul White, her big show turned into a pretty good worker, but you can't just, just because a guy's big, and I'm not saying just work, do the moves, but work have a personality, work, have
Starting point is 02:22:35 something different about you than all the other seven-foot giants that we've seen. Jim, here's a name that recently came up. Scorpio Sky. Well, again, I would keep him from what I remember of him. He was athletic. He was a little boring on the personality side, but his booking was weird in the SCU group that they tried to, I don't know. let's keep Scorpio Sky just because he's a grown adult man and a pretty decent athlete and experienced and see if we can work something out later.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Again, the problem is on the keep list that we're compiling, we're keeping a lot of guys that have good solid matches are athletic and you could do something with and point in the right direction and put on the card. but there's like three so far that I would say oh my god this guy is one of my money guys and I don't know if I've got three yet and MJF has been damaged so keep going from the Spanish announced project Serpentico oh Christ on a cracker he's not even a real Mexican is he
Starting point is 02:23:54 I don't know, which one is Any of the phony Mexican? No, that's, uh, is that Serpentigo? There used to be another guy who was Angelico. No, no, Angelico doesn't wear a mask. He dances like a woman.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Realistico. No, that's another guy. They used to be, in the old days, wasn't there another guy that was like friends with like Sammy or something so he was on the roster? Or was that Sepantico? Pointy, he ain't on the roster anymore. What about Shane Taylor?
Starting point is 02:24:27 from Shane Taylor Promotions. Boy, I tell you what, he's got a giant fucking ass on him, doesn't he? Not the first thing I look for. He looks like one of those, no, he looks like one of those fucking guys that you pour the things you pour the sand in, the boxing dummies, you pour the sand in the bottom so they won't tip over. I guess you're keeping him now that you're working a feud with him. No, I'm just saying he was incredibly not physically impressive to that degree when
Starting point is 02:24:57 I saw him. No, I think he can go also, because what the fuck? What about the captain Sean Dean of both the infantry and Shane Taylor Promotions? How could he be a captain of both? Doesn't the infantry
Starting point is 02:25:15 require exclusivity? I believe he's a captain in general and he brings that captain's ship to both groups. Well, why don't he go down with his ship? All right. Well, What about, I think we actually did him. We did Shelton Benjamin with the tag team champions.
Starting point is 02:25:34 Yeah, because they were champions. They were mentioned first. Sanjay Dutt. Well, again, Sanjay doesn't wrestle anymore. I enjoyed working with Sanjay and TNA, but I saw the fucking stuff he was doing when he was with Jared with the comedy and the jumping up and down and just everybody's having,
Starting point is 02:25:56 I liked Sanjay's, you know, attitude and determination and work ethic. But is he too far on the comedy wrestling now? Let's put him in the middle as an agent and see what happens later on. The icon Sting. Well, as we said about something before, wishing one hand and shit in the other
Starting point is 02:26:22 to see which one fills up first. Sting ain't coming back unless they give him another multi-millions of dollars to come and put his face paint on and sign autographs. I don't think Sting needs to be a topic of this discussion. He's retired. What about Stokely? Stokely.
Starting point is 02:26:45 There's something. Put him in the middle as another manager. There's something there he can talk. Again, if there was ever any credibility given to him as a manager of main event personnel, and he had material that he was, was given to talk about instead of just making shit up, I'm not saying he can't, you know, he's not going to be Bobby Heenan, but he wouldn't suck.
Starting point is 02:27:11 What about swerve, Strickland? You got to keep swerve until we can figure out if it's just one of those deals where they're only going to cheer him if he's a heel and they're only going to just not give a shit if he's a baby face. I don't. And if it's just all about chanting whose house it is. Well, Jim, we are in the home stretch. We are now at the letter T, starting the letter T. What about Titty? That's not one of the wrestlers here.
Starting point is 02:27:41 What about the beast mortos? Frank. Under T. The beast mortoes under T. What was the under T? The beast mortos. Would you keep them? No.
Starting point is 02:27:57 No. What about for the legal department? You know what? Let's put him in the middle. And I'm going to put down Frank Mortos legal department. No, it's just again, it's a funny looking outfit at a time
Starting point is 02:28:15 where if you wanted to be an alternative product and appeal to a mainstream audience, you would try to avoid the fucking just clown show visual of this program with all of the I'm sorry, whether anybody
Starting point is 02:28:31 likes it or not, and in some cases it was very, very bad. The WWF and WWF and W.W.E. have set the tone in people's mind for what a pro wrestler is supposed to look like in terms of some type of athletic standard and size threshold. And when you get children and guys in ridiculous bull outfits, this would go for Mantor or Yukon Moose Cholak now, too, it just, it looks too hokey and low rent and indie wrestling. to make money in this day and age.
Starting point is 02:29:09 So sorry. What about the blade? Is he still there? He was the, he was the bunny's other. Now she's not there, but he is. Well, but he'd been there in two years at least.
Starting point is 02:29:28 When's the last time we saw this guy? Again, they have a lot of programming that we don't watch, I think. When did you last see his name on a website? it didn't stick out, so I don't know. I don't know. Well, let's stick him at. Blade, no, sorry. He was a nice athletic-looking guy. He wasn't the fat-bearded old fuck, the butcher,
Starting point is 02:29:48 but, you know what, let's keep the blade. If he still, indeed, is still alive because I remember he was halfway athletic, we might could do something with it. What about the butcher? Let's get rid of the fucking butcher. What about Toa Leone?
Starting point is 02:30:05 Or, that's not even the name. Tia Leone. Tola Leona. No, it's not her. It's not the actress. Tola Leona from the Gates of Agony. Well, I would keep Tia Leone, but I'm not keeping anybody else.
Starting point is 02:30:20 From the premier athletes, Tony Neese. He's, again, hadn't seen him in forever. He came to a Ring of Honor tryout in 2010, and I thought at that time for that program, he was very athletic. could go smaller size, fit some of the other guys, it would have fit there. Right now they don't fit.
Starting point is 02:30:44 No, no, not at all. Square peg, round hole. From the Don Callis family, Trent Barretta. Oh, Christ, can we get his mother to pick him up? That's just, he's irredeemable. You can never come back from that shit and be taken seriously. He was partners with Muffin Top Taylor. He had a mother that brought him to the matches in a minivan van
Starting point is 02:31:08 and baked them cookies. And he was part of that ridiculous... He was the sidekick to the mascot. How unimportant can you get? And again, maybe we have to revisit this another time and see who is not on this list here because obviously Rocky Romero is partner, not on the roster list.
Starting point is 02:31:29 What about from the outrunners, Truth Magnum? I think the outriggers both got to go. I can't remember what their name is, but it's an embarrassing gimmick that, again, just appeals to the people and want to laugh at wrestling and think it's silly. And that's what you're trying to get away from so that you can attempt to draw a more mainstream audience with a professionally produced program.
Starting point is 02:31:55 So I guess you're saying goodbye to Turbo Floyd as well. Truth and Turbo have been terminated. Three more names, Jim. Oh, good Lord. Mr. May. Ahem, Wardlow. And he wasn't even on top of Mount Everest. Think about that.
Starting point is 02:32:22 They ruined that opportunity. Let me stop it real quick. We've heard from a couple of people, I don't know why, they're upset. Jim hasn't talked about Derby Climbing Everest. Any comments you have about Darby Climbing Everest with an AEW flag? Well, yeah, he's a fucking idiot. Why do you want to put yourself through that? Did you see it was just on the internet a couple days ago,
Starting point is 02:32:42 they had a traffic jam of people waiting to climb to the top of Mount Everest. There was pictures of the lines of people. I guess it was a good weather day, so everybody decided they'd go. They had to wait in line where one group goes up and takes their picture on the top and then they, the Sherpas take them wherever. And the next group comes up. And there were people lined up like a couple of hundred. hundred of them up and down
Starting point is 02:33:10 this goddamn trail to this mountain. I didn't know that it was so commercialized. But the point is, this empty-headed dip shit still has a job that pays him millions of dollars a year that he took off of him to go climb a fucking mountain where there was a 1% chance he could die. What a big benefits return that will be.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Back to Wardlow. Yeah, we'll keep him if, we can find him. From the death riders, Wheeler Yuda. Oh boy, how quick can we get him out of here? I'm so sick of that whole business. And finally, Jim,
Starting point is 02:33:57 Will Osprey. You got to keep him, even though I think he's an idiot, because maybe he could be reformed or taught something. And, you know, that's the problem is when you go through who we've kept, who could be the guy, the champion, the top star of the company, and actually perform at a professional level and draw some money. And as I'm looking down this list, some people might say Darby Allen, he ain't going to be the guy. Kyle is a few years away from that and he needs to learn some things.
Starting point is 02:34:46 MJF was there, but they diminished him. Osprey. That's, you know, that's the list of who could be the guy. And on the other, the fired side, wait a minute, I've got three pages of fired now. I will even, I'll even say who some people think could be the guy. And I have told you what I think of them because I've found. them. But on this list that I'm looking at, uh, no, nobody ever said unless there's some spitball Bailey fans out there to think,
Starting point is 02:35:23 uh, there wasn't the guy on that page. I don't think so. How about, uh, the Drillistico edited a hologram, uh, Jack Perry. We dumped his ass. I don't think anybody still believes he He could be one of the guy, the guy, one of the pillars. Again, there's, there's nobody on this page, either that anybody is even saying, okay, let's go to the front page. Moxley. Well, that's already happening, and that's been the shits. Kenny, that's already happened, and it ain't going to ever be as good as it once was.
Starting point is 02:36:00 It wasn't particularly that good. Okada. Can you imagine if he was the AEW world champion, how bad those. matches would be since he would still not bother to try to fall down. Adam Page, who probably will be the champion again, and that's going to suck. That's the names on this list. Jericho, Edge, they haven't got a guy. If they fumble Osprey, he's the least damaged one yet.
Starting point is 02:36:40 If they fuck him up, they haven't got a guy to be. be the guy. Did I overlook any guys? I don't think so. I mean, I'm sitting here trying to think who's not on this list. I brought up Rocky Romero before. Just have to be other examples of guys, but I mean, Gabe Kidd wasn't on the list, obviously. I'm not to say he's the guy, but he's new. You know, I think they're top guys the last few years of an MJF, not so much lately. Adam Page, Swarves Strickland, Osprey, you know, Moxley.
Starting point is 02:37:16 Well, we kept swerve, and I could mention swerve. Swerves in that group, but he's already been there. Yeah. Osprey's the one that you could build because he has not held the world title. Everyone else, everyone else has. MJF has Adam Page has. Omega has. Jericho has, Moxley has, swerve has. Swerve.
Starting point is 02:37:38 Yeah. Well, I didn't think this is going to depress me so much here at the end of it. Well, but now, and the next thing we'll do, and we're going to do this for the WWF2. Oh, yeah. But the next thing we'll do is we'll go through who we kept and then we'll separate main event guys from guys on the card, and we're going to have six guys on top and 28 on the bottom.
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