Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 395: AEW Roster Review, K To Z
Episode Date: June 7, 2025This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW's male roster, K to Z! Plus Jim talks about R-Truth & Carlito leaving WWE, Ric Flair & Jim Ross, Smackdown & Raw, Money In The Bank preview, an...d more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: RAYCON: Go to buyraycon.com/jce to get 15% off sitewide! SHOPIFY: Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/cornette Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Again, friend, our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru on a nice hot day here in the Northeast.
We'll see how hot it is.
Somewhere else right now, I'm sure we'll get the rain report momentarily.
I'm your host, the great Brian last, and here he is, the star of the show.
We got a pack show today.
Mr. Jim Cornett.
It's not raining, Brian.
Back to you.
Major news here at the start of the show.
isn't raining in Louisville, there isn't a tornado on the way, no one is under a table,
no one is hiding. How does this feel? This feels like success? There's no under the table going on.
No, it's sunny, it's actually hot. We're going to have the hottest day so far this year today,
and that's going to go on for a couple days, and then it's going to rain again. But at least it shouldn't
be severe weather. But of course, as I prophesized, and the prophecy has come true,
Last year on June the 3rd is when I planted those trees,
and it didn't rain for another 23 days.
We had a big drought.
It was 90 degrees every day.
Well, it's been obviously raining up until this point,
and now, as of June the 3rd, the forecast is,
we're going to get like an inch of rain two or three days later.
But I didn't plan anything this year.
See, there's the rub.
And you?
Arn. Anderson used to say,
And you?
Well, coming from, and there's the rub, and then you go to me.
I don't know what kind of transition that is.
I just saw this thing on TV.
I wanted to get your thoughts on.
It's called Spruce.
Not to give anyone a free ad, because I don't know if it works or not, but I'm going to buy one and check it out.
It's apparently a weed and grass killer that's safe for animals and humans.
Have you seen the commercials for this?
They have not done that here or shown those here yet.
I have not seen this.
whatever you said maybe think of that
well you get the
the various the
the rains bring the flowers
and the trees and the weeds
the weeds so they have been yes
and no my
my yard gentlemen
have to come and spray a bunch of
various shit in some of these
mulch beds that have just been overgrown
with the things but no it's not safe
you can't just go out there and get on your hands
knees on all fours and just start licking dandelions
and shit.
That shit'll kill you if you do that.
I don't know about you.
How is it safe to...
What do you just eating this on Ritz Crackers,
but you put it on dandelions and Bermuda grass
and it kills it better than four o'clock?
The ad on Amazon had like this very pretty woman
holding a canister, no gloves, no boots or anything.
She was eating it?
No, she's just smiling as she sprays it onto the pavement.
On to the pavement?
Or onto, uh, yeah, under the pavement.
how are you going to kill weeds on the pavement
if they're
excuse me
paving stones
the stones are growing weeds
in between the stones
oh in between where the
so but then
the little dogs and the cats
and the bunny rabbits and everything can just
come up and still eat that stuff and it just
doesn't hurt them at all but it kills these weeds
that are have taken hold and are
disrupting your entire
walking area.
I think I got to check it out.
I'll let you know.
Have the oldest
kid eat some first.
No one's going to eat it. Why did you go to licking
dandelions and eating it? What the hell's the
matter with you? If it's supposed to be
harmless to all these people, have the oldest,
the hardiest child,
the one that's got the best developed immune
system, have it, have them
eat it first.
And if it doesn't
harm them, then
you could graduate down to where you could feel safe all the way down to Swami or the youngest
child, whichever is lower in body weight. I'll just see if any deer drop dead outside. If they do,
you know, I'll know that. Well, then you'd feel awful bad, wouldn't you? I mean, if it gets rid of
that, you know, the biggest problem I have now is there's bobcats in the area, and that scares the
shit out of me. I'm scared to death of, like, a bobcat running up here and deciding I look
like lunch. Bobcats can be vicious. Ask Al Snow. But I'll tell you.
I got an email, Brian.
Who's it from?
Who's it from, Jim?
From, well, you know, as a matter of fact, I got a package.
That's Bobcat.
No, I've got a package, first of all, in the mail from Lucas Kenzer.
Bless your little peepick and heart.
Because did we just say, like last week, I think it was on one of the programs here,
I mentioned that the grocery store here
stop carrying my favorite brand of Rimalot.
The Louisiana brand of Rimalog,
can there be any other?
That's what Rimalot is, Louisiana mayonnaise.
And guess what he sent me,
his little P-Picking Heart that just got blessed,
a box of 12 bottles of my Rimalot.
And now I'm not going to be a Scrooge,
now also the in-laws,
Stace's folks have Rimmelide
and the Featherbottom family has Rimmelide
and we are stocked with Rimmelide, thanks to Lucas.
I appreciate that.
Can you think he, bless him that he thought of me,
but also what a great...
That's what he did.
He thought of you and then you said,
let me give away this guy's stuff to everyone I know.
Hey.
Well, no, I wanted to share the with my immediate family.
I wanted to share the good,
of knowing of a fine, upstanding, generous person like Lucas, see, and you try to twist it
into something ugly.
And for heaven's sake, when we're trying to be, he's loving people.
And I think he's an example of the cult of Cornett members out there that are so giving
and loving, and I can just mention that I've got a shortage of something in my life,
and they sent me Sprite Zero, paper towels, now really.
Rimmelod. And I'll have you know, Brian, last week, I went over to the bank and my bank is
out of 20s. I don't know what I'm going to do. I got no 20s. $20 bills, folks. You can find
the post office box on the website. But that's the box I got or the package or the container,
the box like structure that came. Brian, but also I got an email from my friend Chad. You
know our buddy chad over in west virginia the world's foremost blind vendor you remember we've
had discussions he's been ripping off blind people for years oh here let me sell you this 10 000
watch it's nothing no quit no he steals him the blind you've misrepresented you've got it backwards
again he is a blind person stealing from people with sight get it straight he's actually a blind
to vend he's not vending to the blind he's a blind person that's vending so all the money that he
steals he comes from the fucking people with eyes that ought to know better sounds like it could be
an undercover cop don't impugn his intent it's not why he wears that raincoat but there that's
sounds like an undercover cop that's why he's selling all the why is that blind person selling all
these things it doesn't even make how's he driving what doesn't make sense well that's remember you
we've started having fun with that and and taking the people
as they say across the pond out of what we thought was the the funniness of Chad or any other blind
people driving up and down the interstate there attending to his various vending machines and that's
what he wanted to let us know about do you know brian that that is in many places and oft times
and for some individuals it is possible for a blind person a legally blind person
to get a license to drive.
Did you know this?
I did not.
I mean, well, again, when you say legally blind,
is that George Weingroff?
You know what I mean?
Like, what, is it someone who just can't see it all?
Well, I mean, but what did happen?
Did you shadow George Weingroff around to see how many things he bumped into?
No, whether he ought to be fucking driving or not.
What did you think?
You were around them?
You were around them enough.
Should he have been driving?
I was around him.
I was brother Eric that was the referee who was blinder.
He didn't see anything.
Um,
it,
you can't
dick
when Bobby,
Bobby,
Eric was so green.
Bobby Eat was calling a spot one time
and the guy
he was working with
had the guy on a headlock.
And he asked the guy and said,
can you leap frog?
And Eric,
the referee is standing over next to him.
And he thought he was talking to him
because Bobby wasn't looking at the guy
directly in his face.
And he just looked at Bobby and said,
I think so.
Anyway, back to Chad now.
Chad is on the docket here.
He mentions there are more blind people driving than you think.
Bioptic correction is allowed in many states for this type of corrective lens.
It's allowed in Kentucky, but not New Jersey,
although there is a conflict on that data.
Some sites say yes, others know.
So, Brian, you got a 50,
50 shot maybe of getting out on the parkway with somebody.
Are you blind, you son of my bitch?
Yeah, he is.
But anyway, basically, and without going into a doctoral dissertation on the subject,
bioptics are a pair of glasses with a micro-sized telescope set in the lens of the
stronger of the two eyes.
A legally blind person whose best correction with standard glasses is
2,200 with bioptics gets it down to 2060 and can get a license.
And according to the way I understand that is, and again, Chad,
Chad, feel free.
But the 2020 vision is you've heard say perfect.
It's basically you can see at 20 feet what a person with normal eyesight should be able to see at 20 feet.
is kind of the scale there in layman's terms,
even if I do never get laid.
This guy's sounding less blind by the second.
Well, no, he still doesn't drive.
He mentioned that before.
He sent me an email saying that he did have a bit of a,
a giggle fest about the two of us imagining him driving up and down to his locations.
He's not one of the people that is doing that.
but uh who was it one time possible well i think we talked about it years ago the idea that stevie
wonder isn't really blind and who was it there was some celebrity that was like yeah one time we
were at stevie's house listening to music in the car i think it was lionel richie and he's like
yeah that stevie just put the car in reverse and started driving you know what he's driving and then you
hear from other people they're like yeah i was next to him i'm pretty sure like it was almost like he
could see me but he can't he's stevie wonder i wonder though with uh the
the driving, the self-driving cars like Tesla's, even though they may decapitate some,
does that change the way, I mean, maybe not now, but I guess in the future, will it change
the way that licensing works for seeing impaired people?
We've already had the discussion that I would shit myself and die of a heart attack within
seconds of being inside a self-driving car.
It lies.
it gives me serious anxiety to be in a car with somebody else driving it
that can see and is human, right?
So I can't imagine the thought of me being on the road
and not freaking out when there's the potential of a self-driving car
with a blind person inside of it coming in the other direction to me.
How about this?
This could work really well for the YouTube channel
if you would actually try it,
and we'll get like a location that's safe
that's like open road but there's not a lot
like an old country road
there won't be a lot of people there
you just have to go like 50 yards down the road
with a blind person driving
you can sit in the passenger seat or the back
50 yards in the car
with a blind person
driving not self-driving but they're driving
wait a minute 50 yards though
in the course of the distance of
driving in a regular car or vehicle
or some description is if you were pointed straight pretty much
Yeah, maybe 50 yards wasn't the best idea.
Yeah, maybe it wasn't a bad idea.
Yeah, so I'll take that.
I'll take that.
You'll do it?
You'd have to fuck it up on purpose.
Would you do 100 yards?
Now, see, now you're pushing your luck there, pal.
It's your luck I'm really pushing, not my own.
Yeah, you're pushing my fucking health.
Maybe I'll just, I'll, as Mama Cornett used to say,
how about we don't and say we did?
All right, well, this is your country.
But I got Rimalod, and you got the show, baby.
Oh, great.
Well, that was the update on blind people on the road, and of course, this has been an ongoing
series.
We may spend it off into a brand new podcast.
Stay tuned for that.
Jim, what's going out of Cornett's Collectibles?
Well, as a matter of fact, this is a good time to bring it up.
I was crowing on the last episode of one of the programs that we did that I just handed off
the last a couple hundred packages to Hotchkiss and we're all caught up so order with impunity
and unfortunately the the fellow known as Hotchkis Feather Bottom who's a heck of a guy named
Jason Lindsay who has been all kinds of help to me and you guys in getting you stuff that
you order a lot quicker and I used to by myself his mother is really something.
and for the next week or two,
nothing's probably going to get mailed out.
Some of the packages that I've handed off may actually have gone,
but if not, I've told him that his family is more important.
And so for the next few weeks,
you can still order stuff and you'll get it,
but nothing's going out for the next week or two
because of that situation.
So if anybody wants to wait and we'll take a little break,
but I wanted to, I don't know if he's going to get a chance to listen to this program,
but if he does, all of the cult members that you have helped out in replacing damaged
merchandise or finding the package that the post office sent to Antarctica,
you know, he's the guy that has done that and we wish him the best.
Anyway, that's what's going on at Jim Cornett.com.
That's right. Good guy.
All kidding aside.
good guy.
So what's going on with you, Brian?
It's the Hodgkis persona that I have a problem with, but the man behind the mask is a good
man.
You know, and how did you hear that they would allow him to cross state lines only if he wears
that mask?
Again, let's not make jokes like that.
We're saying nice things about the guy.
Why do you always have to end everything with like, all right, let's go into the gutter
and just kick him a few times?
Well, because it just, it was there.
And, you know, that's the thing that he had made certain settlements in order to get back
in the state.
All right, well, let's see about what state we're in right now. Jim, there is a lot going on. We have a lot to get to. We have some reviews. We have the roster review, which a lot of people have been waiting for. Lots of other things happening. Why don't we start with something that's a bit, what the hell's going on with this? We talked last week about Rick Flair, and the news that he had launched or was behind the company or aligned with a company called Rick Flair Spirits, of all things.
with a line of Rick Flair
liquor drinks, liquor drinks,
Rick Flair, uh,
Lickers, Rick Flair.
Rick Flair,
it sounds like you've had some.
Have you had some of the Rick Flair liquor drinks, Brian?
Everything from Flair Bourbon to Wooskey.
Right when we talked about that,
there were a lot of people getting in touch about a tweet.
Jim Ross has been on social media
from at least what I've seen,
and I don't follow him or anything,
just a few times it's been retweeted
over the last few weeks talking about
his medical issues
and he went in for surgery,
he came out of surgery.
Yes, and he just actually,
I think right before we're going on the air,
has tweeted that he's home from the hospital
and, you know, starting his recovery there.
But yeah, we've mentioned a few weeks ago
when he made the public statement
that he was,
being treated for cancer, everybody's up on that.
And Jim Ross has a lot of fans.
So naturally, his fans would want to know what's going on with him,
especially if it's something, you know, as serious as this.
Well, in the midst of that, Rick Flair tweeted out,
Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention.
Focus on your recovery.
And then he tagged him in it.
and a lot of people took that as
what the hell is Rick Flair doing?
Why would he do this?
Was there a smiley face?
No, I don't think Rick Flair uses emojis, or at least not here.
Any type of little semicolon right parenthesis?
Other than him tagging him at the end to make sure he saw it, no.
Well, that's, I heard that.
I didn't hear it.
It wasn't spoken.
I saw that
and I was trying
to figure out
if it was
it was it in response
to some specific
statement or
event or
remark that
someone is made was it in response to
something someone had said
or that an announcement that had been made
that people were supposed to know
what the fuck he was talking about
if he, then as we will find out here in second,
claim that it was taken out of context.
What was the context?
You just blurted something out in the wild, right?
And nobody, if they did misunderstand it from what you meant it to be, Rick,
why not?
Because we know what you were fucking talking about.
How did you take it?
Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention.
Focus on your recovery.
That's right, because people started retweeting it with the goddamn, like, Jesus, guy.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
And I'm thinking from Jim Ross's goddamn hospital gurney, did he give some kind of interview
where he said something about Rick that, bam?
And I'm, then since that apparently is not the case, I'm wondering if,
if Flair just saw something at some.
point in time and assumed that if he responded to it, that in that moment that everybody
would know exactly what he was fucking talking about.
But it just, it was the oddest fucking thing.
Did they have problems?
I don't know what to fucking think.
When you were with them, and again, they worked together after that too, but when you
were with them, let's say, in 88, 89, 90, did they have problems?
Did they work well together?
What did?
The only problem.
that they had, and I've said this
many times, was that
Flair viewed
JR as being more
on Jim Hurd's side
because JR had to coexist
in the office with the fucking
raccoon-headed asshole
and was more
tried to be a more amenable
or professional or acquiesced
or whatever to him
than Flair who just
wanted to say, fuck you, jump
out the window, and me too.
but it was not like that either one of them personally had a issue with each other, whatever.
And as I said, I don't know what I don't know what's going on with anybody the last number of years.
I'm over here.
I try to stay away from these things.
But that's what, Flair put out a follow-up tweet that said that he was in some way misunderstood.
or misrepresented or whatever.
And if you read that,
let's try to figure out
how the fuck that that is a thing that could be.
And actually there's two things here.
I have the tweet, which I believe you're referencing.
I also have a statement that he issued after that.
So let's go to here.
Here's the tweet.
If you can't take a joke from a 76-year-old man,
then you are living life too seriously.
It was all harmless.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Should you also mention that you're saying that
because every word is capitalized?
Yeah, that's the rule.
If it's capitalized, we yell it.
That's the Russo rule when it comes to reading documents.
Yes.
Then you are a living life too seriously.
It was all harmless, lighthearted fun.
Just trying to make people laugh and smile.
What the,
all those Jim Ross haters.
He's trying to make laugh and smile.
Hey, I heard Jim Ross had surgery for cancer.
You know what?
Let me go make a joke.
You're seeking attention again.
You know, I'd be honest, Rick used to be a bit better of a comedian.
I don't, how was that a joke that, see, that's what I'm thinking is, does Rick think
that he's sending out the meaning that he thinks in his head telepathically along with these
tweets so
people would understand it.
I was like, God damn.
Seeking attention for his cancer.
How did you got cancer?
Seeking attention again!
Well, we have another statement here.
I won't yell this one.
I just made it clear to the world
in an article coming out on Sports Illustrated
by Justin Barrasso
that Jim Ross was on my Mount Rushmore,
along with Gordon Solie,
Gene Okerland, and Jerry Lawler.
That's an interesting Mount Rushmore there.
That is an interesting choice of announcers when you're...
Well, he's covering the spectrum.
That's high praise because it was very difficult for me to leave out Tony Chivani.
Oh, Jesus.
But Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were the greatest tandem ever.
Nobody should be upset because two people have a difference in opinion.
It happens in life.
I lost the son.
he lost a beautiful wife.
We have a lot in common.
We were both considered the best at what we do.
Let's leave it alone at that,
and all the haters can focus on someone else now.
Well, wait a minute.
I think it was alone until you brought it up,
but besides that...
Ignore the fire. I started the fire.
What is the movie?
What was the difference of opinion?
He said everybody has a difference of opinion.
What?
He was for cancer and J.R. is against it?
He said he got cancer.
I said that. He's looking for attention.
He said, no, I have cancer.
Whoa.
It's a difference of opinion.
What is the difference of opinion?
You need a second opinion?
You're seeking attention.
That's why I tell you.
I went to the doctor.
The doctor said, I think you're ugly.
I said, I'd like a second opinion.
Okay, you're stupid, too.
How you doing, Jim?
Do you have a good support system?
Well, the greatest of all time just told me I'm seeking attention.
Do you think Rick should send him a case of whiskey or something to ease the pain?
I don't know.
Well, maybe Rick, the next business he'll get into is an organ transplant service called Ro organs.
Because, you know, if you,
If you partaking all the rest of the Wu brand items,
you're going to need your liver replaced, your kidneys replaced,
your pancreas, your uvula,
all those things are going to need to come out
and have somebody else's come in.
So start now,
and that way they can start harvesting the organs
for the next generation of the woo sumers.
Woo sumers.
You can just see Jim Ross's face, like looking at his phone,
like, hey, let me scroll.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
All right.
Well, that's the, I don't know what we call it,
the Rick Flair Jim Ross feud update.
It's just a difference of opinion.
All the haters can focus on something else.
It was a joke.
It's just you and me and we just disagree.
Before we go too much further,
let's get the reviews out of the way.
What did you watch?
And when did you watch it?
Well, I'll tell you what, here is a comment that I'm going to make, Brian,
to you as I go to my notepad, because it has been a topic
that has come up on my Twitter machine that in response to some of our clips on YouTube,
when we tweet out the links to these things as a service to the public, free of charge,
we tweet out these links, you click on, see, this is another thing.
Did you know that somebody stole links from Hotchkis Featherbottom?
He had invented them about a year or two ago.
But then somebody jumped in and, yes, and somebody, all that far back.
And somebody jumped in and got to market with him first, but he invented the link.
But we tweet the links to the YouTube videos.
Some of these rabble rousers in the minority have tweeted me back and said,
you guys just gloss over the WWE.
You'll go into minute detail about what goes on on dynamite
and tell them what all's wrong and everything and how bad they fucked up.
But you just gloss over the WWE.
You barely even talk about it sometimes.
And I believe we've explained this before, at least I have.
I feel like I have, Brian.
Maybe I've got, you know, the,
the milk of amnesia.
But it's,
the reason for that in a lot of cases
is because where the WWE
is just
kind of fucking boring
professionally done,
not quite as many,
near as many production fuckups.
And occasionally,
somebody drops gable on his head or whatever,
but normally not anything to fucking,
fucking,
take to task in the ring on a professionalism basis,
it's just kind of there, and it takes three hours,
it gives you about 15 minutes of entertainment.
Whereas on the other program,
it's like trying to run through the Zapruder film
and analyze exactly where the,
how many shooters were there,
where were they coming from,
and who was in the book depository
when so-and-so went out on a stretcher.
It's so unprofessional from so many different standpoints,
and it makes no logical sense from one moment to another,
that one must try to keep up with these things as best we can.
The other thing is like a,
what do they call them little poems in school, Brian,
the little short poems, the haikus.
Did you study those back in grade school?
We did, yeah.
How many lines is supposed to be in one of those?
Is that the five-line deal,
or am I thinking about the limericks
with the girl from Nantucket?
I said we studied it.
I didn't say I retained it.
You didn't say you retained any of it.
It's brief is what it is.
Well, that's what it's like the WWE is giving us
a wrestling haiku
but it takes you two and three hours to watch the thing.
Whereas meanwhile, AEW is over there like the meth head across the street after a three-day
binge just prattling on, tweaking all over the fucking place.
You don't know where to start in trying to analyze his fucking behavior.
So I got a couple of comments about Smackdown, and you can just let me know whether
whether you agree with me or not
in terms of general overall,
why the, why?
They had 14,600 people in Knoxville, Tennessee.
That's a goddamn hell of a house in Knoxville, Tennessee.
And half the crowd was wearing the UT Orange
and court Bianca's hometown or, well,
she went to Tennessee.
I don't know if she was actually born in the,
city limits or whatever, but she came out in the University of Tennessee colors and everything,
and she wanted to get everybody to sing Rocky Top.
But then when the music started, it was like a marching band Rocky Top instrumental, and they
just sat there because they could figure out where to come in, and she's not leading them.
She never sang at all.
she wanted the people to sing but she didn't want to reveal
that she couldn't carry a tune in a bushel basket
so about halfway through they figured out
oh shit it's there and then they came in
and sang to they're saying the chorus twice
but how do you
how do you screw up Rocky Top in Knoxville Tennessee
how is it possible
to fuck up the presentation
of the goddamn national anthem
of Knoxville, Tennessee?
These are just rhetorical questions, Brian,
but feel free to kick in it.
Would you like to hear Bianca Bellaire sing?
I had never heard her sing,
and I'm not too familiar with Rocky Top,
so...
Oh, come on!
Sounds like this is a win-win for me.
No, Rocky Top is the anthem of the UT Anthem,
but also it's Rocky the Osborne brothers.
Rocky Top, you'll always be.
Home sweet home to me.
Good old Rocky Top, Rocky Top, Tennessee.
You could just blare that on the loudspeakers
in the middle of downtown Knoxville
at fucking noon on a Friday
and everybody would just come to a halt
and start singing.
Once two strangers climbed old Rocky Top
looking forward.
moonshines still.
Strangers ain't come down
from Rocky Top. Reckon they
never will.
No, there's no organ.
There's a fiddle and a
banjo.
No, there's no wind chimes either.
But anyway,
she did a promo
about how happy she was.
This is the point I was going to make, and it will move
on. She did a promo
about how happy she was coming
home to her safe space.
to heal.
She's got a broken fucking finger.
She's literally holding a microphone
with a goddamn hand.
It's got the fucking finger split on it.
She had to come home to a safe space
to heal for a broken fucking finger.
Riggie Morton worked for six weeks one time
with a broken aunt.
Naomi came out and
did the fucking promo about when she
broke into Bianca's parents' house
and us all for fuck's sake.
and they go into the money in the bank qualifier with jade and nia and naomi and by the time that's over
it's 30 minutes of the program and i did say i would call out unprofessionalism
with nia jacks she went to bonsai the both of them stacked on top of each other and
Naomi moved and
Nia Jacks just
I can't believe she didn't pop both
of Jade's implants.
What the fuck?
That, there is
two reasons I can think of
why that you would
bonsai drop somebody
in that fashion. You don't give a fuck
or you don't like them.
And don't give a fuck
is usually reserved.
Well, he's a job guy.
We'll never see him again. Don't give a fuck.
I got to get him.
it over and don't like somebody as well, I'm going to show this fucking, Jesus Christ.
I would, and then it was 16 minutes until the next match started, and there wasn't even a big
live in-ring interview.
Brian, have you sat down with a watch on Smackdown or Raw lately and seen how long it is between
things that happen that don't really fucking matter to begin with?
I haven't. You've mentioned this a few times lately. You've been walking around a lot with this
stopwatch, haven't you?
I get, well, you know, because I got man, boy, I didn't even get to tell you at the top
of the program about the badass battery operated leaf blower I've got. But more on that
later. They had a match with our truth, more on him later, against old J.C.
Mateo. And how old can you Google? How old is,
the former Jeff Cobb because they said he was in the 2004 Olympics.
42 years old.
Jesus Christ.
I think maybe they ought to say former Olympian
because you wouldn't have thought that,
but it calls your attention to it.
And he beats, oh, our truth in minutes,
and he's not bad.
He has a nice finish.
But basically the story through the whole thing,
the reason to watch Smackdown is for the 10,
minutes that Solo and Jacob Fatu have an argument and eventually they're going to break up.
But besides that and the four tag teams, now with Candy Laroo, the street profits, the Motor City
machine guns, Champa and Gargano, now with candy, and what the meth head and masked man,
they had an argument until all the lights went out
and then the Wyatt goofballs came back and beat everybody up
and that was the first hour of the show.
And then I'll do you better than that.
The next half hour was Javon Evans and Phoenix
against the lucha heels,
which started 22 minutes after the last match had ended
and went over 15 minutes until Ethan Page,
screwed the baby faces.
And then we were an hour and a half into the show.
Brian said it's easier if you keep an eye on the watch
instead of the program.
We got Zelina against Alba fire.
There's no way you watch that.
Of course I didn't.
And then we got an in-ring promo with Damian Priest
and he's finally beaten Drew McIntyre.
He is not connecting with this living on the street
gimmick?
Is it because nobody on the street has custom-made leather outfits or what is not,
they've tried to draw on his legitimate background of being fairly impoverished or living
on or near a street?
I don't fucking know.
But is he too, is he too clean?
Is he too gimmicky?
What is he?
Is he, is he?
What the fucking?
working here. Because people ain't getting into it. I don't know exactly. You know, sometimes it feels
like guys are made top guys or pushed to beat top guys just because of their size and everything,
when sometimes maybe they would be better with another person. I think Priest with Judgment Day
was one thing. Him as that group's leader or muscle worked. Him on his own, what are you getting
behind. He's a baby face and you got to get behind him. What are you getting behind exactly?
You know, he's won some big matches and Drew's not going to be around for a while, I guess.
But there's nothing interesting about him. I mean, again, I said it before. Even his gear, just
everything. There needs to be almost like a complete revamp, which is crazy. They put the belt on
this guy, but it doesn't connect with me at all. Priest is one of these guys at this point now that
causes me to look away or change the channel, just because I'm not. Look away. I'm hideous.
I'm hitting this.
The Met game may be on one of the other monitors in here,
but it's just it's not interesting stuff.
If you look at Damien Priest in the face,
you'll turn to stone.
I mean, you know, there's a lot of tools there,
and obviously they've seen that,
and that's why they're trying,
but I don't,
maybe it's that he has not felt comfortable,
or to me he doesn't look like he feels comfortable
and doing what he's doing as a single now, et cetera, et cetera,
whereas, like you said, with a bunch of,
with a bunch of his buddies, maybe he is a buddy buncher,
where you got to bunch him in with the buddies.
Can I, can you trademark buddy buncher real quick in case,
and in, buddy bunkers?
We can call the women's division carpet bunchers.
Buddy bunchers and carpet munchers coming soon to a store near you.
That trademark.
Well, any of that make the final cut?
I don't know.
This is your Smackdown review.
Well, you'll have to run it through legal.
Well, yeah, we could definitely say Travis don't use it, but go ahead.
Yeah, well, and good, me shopping for produce.
I loved it, Travis.
Thank you.
So anyway, we were at 10 o'clock.
And they have the Money in the Bank qualifier, Fatou and Andrade and Carmelo Hayes.
and I love Jacob Fatu, but a 20-minute three-way with two job guys, and I'm good.
We get to the meat of the matter.
Is it solo and old, the former artist of Jeff Cobb or whatever comes out?
And they do a few things back and forth, boom, boom, boom.
But when Jacob moonsaults old Andrade solo jumps up, he's like, do it again, do it again.
and he distracts from the things and they get mad
and Jimmy Uso appears and attacks J.C. Mateo
and Andre bumps Jacob out and Solo beat Carmelo 1, 2, 3.
So now Jacob is not happy with Solo or the other guy,
and he's also nodded that.
There's more top stars about to not be in the money in the bank
than there is in the money in the bank.
I wonder what's in the bank.
Should we open up that vault, get into that safe deposit box, see exactly what's in that bank?
So by then it was 1030.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Well, there's been different things I've seen online circulating recently that Triple H is not a fan of money of the bank.
And people thinking that maybe this will be another one of these things in WWE, that Triple H gets away gets rid of gets away.
Gets away with money in the bank.
Do you think money in the bank's been established at this point where they kind of have to do it?
or do you think it should go away?
Should it change?
What are your thoughts on it?
You don't have to do anything.
Some many things you should do.
Have WrestleMania next year.
That's probably a safe bet.
But the money in the bank thing,
besides the fact that it's been overdone to begin with,
think about this.
At first, the idea was, well,
whoever climbs it and gets the,
we'll get a shot at the top.
Well, then there became two titles.
There became multiple champions that you could challenge.
And then now every time they do something with the guys,
they've got to do it with the girls.
So it's just, I don't know if it's special enough anymore at this point in time
to make any big difference.
But I think they can definitely,
they could probably downgrade it.
Is that the word for draw it back a little bit to where it's a TV,
over the course of the summer and use the pay-per-view for something else newer and fresher they
might come up with, especially now since it doesn't matter.
Everybody's going to buy everything and they get paid whether they buy it or not.
But just, I'm unexcited.
Just same thing, a bunch of multiple man matches on TV to get into a goddamn multiple
man match.
and that's where we've seen that before.
It's the same old song,
but with a different meaning since you've been gone.
All right,
well,
that was the answer to your question.
Oh,
is that,
no,
it wasn't.
Come on.
Because then we had to sit through Cody
and fucking see,
no,
wait,
first out,
I'm sorry,
in order here.
The last 30 minutes of this show,
was another promo.
They had a promo so long they had to take
a commercial break in the middle of the fucking promo.
So Cody's out first there forever
and then introduces
Yeat.
And they, it had already been going
so long they had to take a break during the
fucking entrance. And then
they came back and they
were milking the yeats
and then they
brought the music down.
And then Jay is this?
started back up and they played the music again.
And by the time that John Sina's music started playing,
they had seven minutes on the fucking air and he spoke two minutes later when they had
five minutes on the air. And by then they just, they say a couple of things to each other.
And he, Sina introduces Logan Paul who has an entrance.
And there were three minutes on the air.
And Logan Paul does a good, he,
old promo, but everybody's just standing
and the fans were chanting, shut the fuck
up, and yes, at him, but that's the way I
felt. And just
when Logan
Paul's about to say something
pithy to Jay Uso,
my DVR froze.
And I
understand they exchanged
a flurry of their
various moves about two or three
times after talking about it for
30 minutes and then everybody left.
But Brian,
is that worth three hours
of seriously
how devoted do you have to be
to sit there
on any night of the week
for three hours
to get that out of it
what do you think of the news
that they're not going back to two hours
remember we originally told us back
Oh god damn that's right yes oh you son of a bitch
Smackdown was always two hours
They went to three hours at the beginning of the year
When they went to USA we were told at the summer
at the summer. In the summer, they would be going back to two hours. Now they're announcing that
probably because of the advertising revenue, they're not doing that. I know. I just heard that.
You just reminded me of it. Because I just heard that. And now I hate you too. Much like every other
Friday of now of my life that I, well, actually, I don't watch it on Friday because you can't
watch it live. Jesus. H. Christ. There's,
if you're accused of terrorism they would tie you down and just make you watch the in-between
travelogue and spots and commercials and merchant as sputnik monroe would say the rags the
rags the paper and the pens that they're selling you to get to anything anything
that was smack down oh boy another winner that was my thoughts another winner another winner
from the WWE, those wonderful guys behind WWE, smackdown there.
But that is why that we go into more detail sometimes,
because yes, something's happening in AEW in the same way
that something happens when a railroad trestle collapses and a train goes off the
fucking precipice.
But over on the other side of the street, it's like a guy,
damn television version of Somas.
Well, Jim,
WWE seems to have it down.
They are selling
lots of tickets, making lots of money,
charging more than ever before.
A fortune. It's becoming a bigger
and bigger story, it seems like, all the time.
Yet, everyone
could still use a little help
selling.
Everyone could use the right person, the right
partner online to make sure you get your
products into,
into, or in front of,
The right eyes.
Or sometimes into the proper people.
Into the eye.
The eyes.
We're speaking about the eyes.
Well, you don't want to stick it to somebody's eye.
You can put somebody's eye out with stuff like that.
Once again, we are professional and professionally speaking.
Everyone can use some help with their online commerce.
And Shopify is here for you.
Well, yes, Brian.
And again, depending on what you're manufacturing,
it may very well be that the,
this item is going to go in the consumer.
So you,
but wherever, whether it's in you,
on you, or in your periphery,
the thing about it is, folks,
you want to make some money.
You want money and you want it now.
Money, money, money, money.
That makes the world go around.
Let's say you got a dream.
Let's say you've got,
you've got aspirations.
I'm not talking about the kinds you need to take oxygen for.
I'm talking about the dreams and the hopes
of being a big business typhoon.
And you need a commerce platform.
And you need a website.
And you need help with product inventory and payments and analytics.
You need the business people to help you run your dream to turn it into reality.
And that's where Shopify is your one-stop shop.
Now, if you do not have a brick-and-mortar Shopify store in your location,
I believe they're now in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and Fresno, I believe.
But you can just go to Shopify.com.
Because that's where you're going to hear that type of thing come into your life.
The cash register signifying you're going to make some money, folks,
because Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States.
They're the dark overlords by.
it and growing.
And they give you help with hundreds of beautiful ready-to-go templates to express your brand
and style.
You don't have to learn how to do all this code stuff.
Remember, Brian, the code people will send people to stay in your walls and spy on you.
So you can bypass all this stuff.
That was never confirmed, but let's get back to our friends at Shopify.
They power our online store all our great merch, our T-shirts, Arcadianvanguard.com,
they can power the listeners as well.
Yes, and there have been some reports of people in chimneys.
But you can also spread your brand's word with the built-in marketing and tools
that they have to find and keep new customers for you.
And, of course, Brian, the iconic purple shop pay button that is used by millions of businesses
around the world.
It's an iconic purple.
As a matter of fact, did it not win a legal battle with Barney the Diamond?
that now that Barney has to change colors?
You didn't hear about that.
I haven't even seen Barney.
Is Barney still a thing in society?
I have not heard of seen Barney.
Well, he's a dinosaur.
Goddamn, you know, they live forever.
You don't ever hear about dinosaurs become extinct.
Yeah.
Shopify folks has the best converting checkout on the planet.
Your customers already love it because they're already slaves to it.
everybody's getting all their necessity, their food and sustenance from Shopify now to begin with anyway.
So they're already there.
They're on the hook.
Now you can build these people for everything they've got every last drop, folks.
And if you want a $1 a month trial period to see what Shopify can do for you, then we can fix it up for you.
All you do is you go to Shopify.com slash JCE.
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It's a $1 a month trial period and you'll make a dollar back in the twinkling of a bell or a ding.
Yeah, bell.
A ring-a-d-ding-dong thing.
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That's right.
As I said before, they power our online store.
they could power yours.
They're a friend of ours.
Become friends with Shopify.
One more time, Jim, that promo code and link.
That's right.
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Well, Jim, I think it was just a few weeks back.
We talked about a round of WWE releases that had happened
and what the future of those wrestlers would be.
And people were surprised over the last few days,
a few more releases.
And I guess the timing of it,
really surprised people, but a lot of people are also surprised by the outcry on social media.
Let's talk about it.
The first one, our truth, are truth Ron Killings being released by WWE?
Well, in actuality, release is technically not the right term.
He's not being renewed.
His contract is up, whereas I think the other folks, they were at a period in their
where their out clause could be exercised or whatever for the WU.
office, but with our truth, here's the thing I understand why they wouldn't want to sign
a 53-year-old guy to a two- or three-year contract, a guy that they've done marginally
nothing with for quite a while, except for right now.
And even still for right now, let's say you don't want to, you don't want to, you.
You don't want to go to him and say, okay, our truth, you know, this has been great,
so we want you to wrestle for us for three more years, you're 53 years old.
He might not want to do that, but why, since they did this, and it is a perfect time to do it,
not only because apparently they're losing our truth, but they know they're losing Sina.
And we said to Saturday Night's main event, it was a good little TV match, and it fit the story
that they've told for a while on and off, blah, blah, blah.
But he was the number one t-shirt seller of the week from one report that I saw.
And why wouldn't you go to him and say, okay, look, we don't want to sign you for however much money you've been making per year for three more years.
But we just did this thing and you're selling merchandise and the people like you more now than they have in a while.
It's one of those things that happens.
so let's sign you to a lesser contract and don't work as much.
We still do in the merchandise, show up on raw every couple weeks.
So work 25 times a year, we'll pay you several thousand dollars.
And you're still with the company.
And we'll still do whatever the fuck and we'll sell t-shirts.
And we'll see how it goes.
In a year, maybe you've made enough money on t-shirts.
You don't give a fuck.
I have the tweet here that Ron Killings sent out June 1st, 1112 a.m.
I'm sorry to inform you all.
I just got released from WWE.
I want to thank WWE for the ride,
but mostly I want to thank each and every one of you
who was along for the ride.
Thank you for all the love, support, and appreciation
you have given me over the years.
Thank you.
And again, he's even saying,
I was released.
It's different.
They just,
they didn't renew you.
And he put that out Sunday morning,
and it caused a public outcry.
I mean, as much as you're going to get
from wrestling fans of social media,
but I was shocked how many people were upset about this.
Again, I don't necessarily agree with the,
this person or that person
deserves a job for life, but you did see a lot of that.
Like, if there's anyone who deserves a job for life,
it's him, you even started seeing,
this would have never,
happened under Vince.
Vince would have never done this.
What?
Yeah, you started seeing some of that.
Again, people losing their minds.
Vince got up on a wrong side of the fucking Ben
decided to fire people sometimes.
But no, see, this is,
if our truth had been involved
in the previous round of cuts before they shot
the angle for the thing with Sena,
nobody would have been surprised, would they?
Because he just ever was while on TV
and a comedy thing and blah, blah, blah.
But because of that, now that he's been focused on for a few weeks,
that's where people were like, oh, shit.
But that shows the problem with, is sometimes at the top.
I don't know where or how far up the decision went.
But the non-wrestling people that are more in charge of, you know,
contracts or talent budgets or whatever,
not maybe realizing, well, there's a goddamn, this guy got hot all of a sudden.
We might not be able to stretch it out three more years, but we can do something right now.
Let's go back and let's modify that.
Let's figure out a way to not do this right now.
Or maybe, you know, Tony Kahn is like, oh, shit.
If they let our truth go, I'll give him $3 million a year.
And our truth is like, okay, fine.
And he just, you know.
And that way they get it very.
very different than Tony. And again, we should say that we don't know whose decisionist was.
We don't know if this was TKO saying cut overhead, let alone cut overhead, make it him,
or if it was Triple H saying this is the guy I'm willing to get rid of from my roster.
I think a lot of people are saying this is Triple H's decision. But we don't know again if that comes
from the top. Because even though they're making more money than ever before,
they're also still cutting jobs, not just wrestlers, but people in the office of all these companies,
they own now. Well, that's why I'm saying if they were reticent to sign a,
even of whatever he might have been making,
because he's been there a long time,
maybe they've raised him up into,
I can't imagine it'd be Brown's Strongman level,
but you know what I mean,
but okay, take a little less, work a lot less,
and let's keep the merchandise going.
And you're coasting now in your 50s,
but maybe he's thinking,
or maybe he knows, who knows,
that Tony Con will give me whatever I want.
I won't argue with them.
They don't want to renew me.
Fine.
I'll be right over here.
And we'll talk about that in a second.
The idea should Tony Kahn sign him just because of how much TV he's been getting recently and everything else?
But, you know, Mariah May has apparently been removed from the roster officially now.
People expect her in WWE.
She's been off TV for months because Tony expected her to go to WWE.
Is this WWE's way of doing the opposite of that?
I mean, Ron Killings may not have known he was going to be released, but they, I doubt it was a spur of the moment decision.
they knew he was going to be released.
Let's get the most out of him that we can.
Yeah.
And then just get him off TV, get him out of the company, I guess.
But it's obviously the opposite of what Tony Kahn's done.
Are they wrong for trying to maximize something on the way out?
Should they stop what they're doing?
The Billy Graham rule.
Hey, something else is happening here.
Let's try to do this instead of a pre-planned thing.
What do you think?
No, they, obviously, if they weren't.
weren't going to renew Ron Killings than the thing would be to get something out of him on the
way out and well, Cina's leaving too, but we could do this thing. We got time. Blah, blah, blah. It's not
a revolutionary thing. And at the same time, they would honestly realize in the W.W.E. Office that
even if they put Ron Killings on television, getting beat by John Cina,
and then, you know, thrown off the fucking bridge or whatever.
It's not like handing Tony Khan a game changer for fuck's sake.
It's not like if Tony,
if Tony went out and signed our truth tomorrow
and he came in as, you know, are no lies.
I don't know what, you know, they've got trademarked.
Ron Killings, probably.
Ron Killings, who tells no lies.
It would get a huge pop from the audience they already have.
And that's not disparaging our truth, but he is not a person who could bring on the strength of his own personality
hundreds of thousands of people to the show, to the viewership of the show, to make a difference in the numbers, whatever the case,
the people that already are watching that show
would love,
ah, they hired our truth
because those bad men over there fired him
because he's only been there for 20 years.
But then he'd be doing the same shit
that everybody else is with the same people
that everybody else is,
the same thing happened to him and everybody else has.
I guess that's the thing.
If they signed Ron Killings,
do they bring him in and let him do
the kind of comedy stuff he's been doing in WWE?
Is that what you'd want?
And is that what he would do?
Well, and I'll be honest,
for comedy, if you're going to do comedy,
he's the best one at it, because you almost
find yourself
being sucked into that this guy
could literally be that fucking stupid, right?
He does it so well.
Or he goes to TNA.
You know, I think T&A would probably be better for him
because he'd be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.
But at the same time, you know,
Tony's predilection for signing up somebody that's the current darling of the internet.
And Tony's got a, as he said himself, a bigger checkbook.
But that's the thing.
It's not horrible of the WWE to let a guy go that's in his 50s that has been there for
literally nearly 20 years, I think.
Having said that, the timing was so odd because,
he's actually more important now, temporarily, just off of this,
but then he, more visible, more popular, more over whatever,
than he has been for the last several years, right at this time.
Because as I said, if they'd done it, you know, six months ago,
nobody would have thought anything about it.
Well, Jim, on the heels of the news that our truth was leaving WWE,
in another tweet, I'll read this to you.
this was sent out by Carlito
my contract is up in two weeks
it will not be renewed
on top of that
WWE is demanding I pay back the money they paid me
for apparently quote
stealing money from the company
I've had my lawyers look into it
and after reviewing my footage on Netflix for the past months
they suggested I pay them back the money
all jokes aside
Grasias WWE
and especially the WWE universe
Los
Chiro Mucho
P.S. I'll appear again in another
13 years.
Dios milos
Bendiga.
So Carl Leo... I'm not sure what some of those things
mean. They say he says here
that he has been released, his contract is up in
two weeks, it won't be renewed. He wasn't on Raw
the next day. So I guess
maybe the two weeks went into effect early.
Yeah. Well, because then
here's the thing once they've told a guy he's released he generally won't be on television again
even if the contract is up in two weeks or whatever because in the past a time or two
somebody has you know suddenly become injured and they had to pay more money you know but with
Carlito and by the great sense of humor uh from Carlito take off on an old Ernie Ladd
fucking line.
He's had a nice,
what, two-year run
since he came back on that
the Puerto Rico
pay-per-view and he looked in better shape
than half the guys on the roster
and they signed him
and had him do the thing
in the Judgment Day. They've never pushed him
like a fearsome
singles competitor on his own,
but he was a valuable
member of the cog
in the wheel of the group and the judgment
day and you know he's looked good and when he's had to work he's as we've mentioned a couple
times done better than most of the fucking guys had been on the roster for a while but are much
younger but he's what almost 52 so i don't mean 52 the number but almost 50 also i think
so it's not really a surprise and i don't know that he expected because he's taking
it was such good humor. I don't think he thought it was going to be a longer term thing.
He was probably like, what, you're going to bring me back when he heard about it?
He's actually 46. He's my age.
See, they're almost 50. It's all downhill from here.
You know, I have to say, I didn't expect much, but I enjoyed him in the Judgment Day.
He actually is a character who really didn't do anything. They barely gave him anything to do.
He was one of the more enjoyable parts of the Judgment Day segment.
I really didn't say.
So, yeah, I'm not surprised, but I did enjoy him on this run.
I guess I'm a little surprised that they decided,
because they're still doing all this stuff with Judgment Day,
to just drop Carlito, but I guess that's what they've done.
What is the current local wrestling scene like in Puerto Rico?
Because the hurricane and the pandemic and blah, blah, blah is,
I mean, he's obviously in the royal family down there,
but do they have a company there these days?
Does he have options to go home and work if he wants?
I'm sure there's something.
I just don't know if they actually draw or make money right now at this point in 2025.
I know we have some listeners down there, though,
so anyone who is actively going to shows in Puerto Rico and knows what's up,
get in touch with us, let us know.
Yeah.
What is going on and is because you never hear anything anymore about guys,
oh, so-and-so's in Puerto Rico.
Well, you don't hear that anymore.
Well, Carlito, Caribbean Cool, leaving the judgment day.
I for one, we'll miss him on this show.
I enjoyed this run.
One last one here, Jim.
Valhalla has announced she has left WWE.
Well, I didn't know she was still there.
Valhalla was coming.
Now I guess she's going.
Yeah, Valhalla is coming.
Valhalla is here.
Valhalla's gone.
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We're having a good time here today.
So let's ruin that.
Jim, Monday Night Raw transpired last night as we are recording.
A lot of people love it.
A lot of people get mad when I don't thoroughly review it.
I'm not crazy about the show right now.
I'm not really happy with WWE.
Right now.
I'm not enjoying it as much.
But let's talk about
last night's wrong let's get your thoughts on it well there were this was a show where there was
actually maybe 20 minutes or so of stuff to watch they they sprinkled it out through the program
basically it's the main event angle with with punk and sammy and jay and seth and bronson and and
and Braun and Paul and Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice,
that's what, at least on this show,
instead of just teasing something at the start
and then paying it off at the end
and you having to sit through two and a half hours in the middle,
they actually kept it interconnected with some other things
through the course of the evening.
So I like that, but again, otherwise,
you got these, what, six guys
and that's the thing that you're watching for
and the rest of it's in the middle.
And a lot of it is the talking of the thing.
But they started out with Punk's promo
and he's over and they chanted
and talking about going to money in the bank
because there's a qualifier later on tonight.
And hey, with Jay, it wouldn't be personal,
it'd just be business.
But with Sina, who sold his,
is sold to a bald fraud goof.
Just any chance that punk gets to remind the rock that he's a bald fraud goof.
Even when it,
it obviously didn't really need to go there,
but he just wanted to remind everybody.
So he's going to get Sina and then Sammy's music played.
And Sammy came out, of course,
as the Henry Kissinger of this whole company,
where he's always trying to get everybody together
and the common cause and see the big deal.
It's good to hear that punk is full of confidence
because Paul Lee's bunch took him out of money to bank,
but punk, you've got to win tonight.
Don't think about them, don't worry about me, stay focused.
We all need you to win tonight.
Or this place will be unrecognizable as Seth is champion.
why it'll be almost as bad as it was when he was champion a year and a half ago.
See, this was a little, it's like they're all in dire straits
because it's almost like Donald Trump would be elected president of the United States
or some kind of dire consequence like that if Seth would be the world champion again.
But it's for the story.
So they did that and set that up and Sammy's root.
for punk and punk's got sammy's back and they're all just happy and then
brian for an extended period of time every time that i've on this netflix with no on
screen fast forward that they would go to a break or a spot or whatever i said well let me just
skip ahead four or five minutes again and you end up in a commercial in a pre-tape in a
merchandise spot in a travel log and a drone shot.
They had a three-way money-in-the-bank qualifier with Stephanie and Ivy and
Liv, and Finn and J.D. wrestled the war Vikings.
And they had a drone shot of New Jersey.
And by then we were again an hour into this program.
And then we get to see Sammy and Jay again.
Mena
and they have a tag team match with
the bronze,
Reed and Breaker.
And that'd be a great tag team match
because I like all those guys.
I like all those guys.
Jay is a popular person, but his work
eh.
But they go to break in two minutes and they come back.
They get some heat on Sammy.
And a kind of a blight tag.
And then as soon as
you know,
fucking the baby face comeback start
starts again, there's Seth out there and does the curb stomp on jail on the floor for the disqualification.
But as they were going to kill Sammy, punk came out with a chair and saved the day.
And apparently we're being led to believe that Seth thinks the plan is right.
They go, we got them right where we want them.
And almost nothing happened again.
I don't mean to be overstating this.
but you're not there was a nice drone shot of Atlanta
there's a nice drone shot of Tulsa
they got drones everywhere what the hell what is going on with
WWU they have like a drone army well they're getting money from the
fucking city governments the drone shot of Los Angeles
I think they should have paid extra for that that was extra nice with the palm
trees uh Richelle Rochelle wrestled Carrie sane
or one foot
75 pound weight difference
and then we got to the next
money to bank qualifier
El Chado
Gabel Americano
against AJ Styles
against CM Punk
and of course you think
the punk would be going on
to money in the bank
and they had a
they had a three-way match
and it was a three-way
but it wasn't stupid and silly
like usual because all three
have some pride
in their
their work.
It was nice wrestling.
It kept it going and they did a complicated back and forth finish.
Everybody was there for in a number of false finishes.
But finally,
punk hits the go to sleep on Gable and covers him and Braun pulls him out.
And they get on Punk and here comes Sammy and Jay and have a big fight.
And AJ dives on everybody and then springboards into the ring on Gable.
but Gable had loaded his mask.
Boom, met him with the headbutt, one, two, three.
And it was a vague.
So Gable's got, now the big stars are not in money in the bank.
So they could have the actual match
that's going to draw the money to the money in the bank, apparently.
If they're going to have the match,
nothing's been announced.
If they're going to have the match,
but Punk then jumped bronze,
Seth and Punk fought,
bronze-speared Punk,
Reed stopped Sammy, Seth stumped both of them,
Jay came back in,
super kicked everybody,
but Braun speared him and Seth stomped him,
and then Reed hit Jay with the splash off the top rope twice.
So I had some nice mid-south wrestling going on there at the finish.
And so out of three hours, you got 20 minutes.
And the rest of it is drone shots of downtown fucking Ashkosh.
That was raw.
Yeah, look, the people there really seem to like it.
And people watching at home seem to like it, like the commentary and everything,
is just really an unenjoyable show for me right now.
Not that Smackdown's any better.
Smackdown has not been...
Smackdown somehow became the worst show, yet also unwatchable to me right now.
I don't want to see either one of them, but Smackdown, I want to see less than Raw right now.
Well, but, and again, for the people who may not have come into the theater late,
I may not have heard what I said when we talked about Smackdown earlier.
It's not that in most cases they're doing anything grossly unprofessional or nonsensical,
or illogical, or unnecessarily dangerous, or just, you know, they haven't built any fake walls yet or whatever.
For the most part, every once while somebody still gets dropped on their head as we saw.
But it's just it takes forever for anything to happen.
And most of the matches are either with the underneath guys
when you want to see the top guys interact or the top guys
that we get a minute and a half to break and come back and do the DQ.
And over on the other side is AEW where you cannot stop the carnage
for a second to even count the fucking bodies.
So it is quite a choice, but in all honesty, you see which one is making the most money, drawing the most money.
The fucking WWE that has the stars and is giving them just the very bare minimum they need to to keep them coming back.
And we'll see where that line is.
As the prices go up and the amount of wrestling goes down, we'll see where they,
hit the tipping point.
You know, to go to something we talked about previously,
I asked you about AEW.
And again, not even looking at who's on their roster,
how they present it.
It's just it's a number two, it's competition.
WW is aggressively trying to fuck with them.
And I said,
AEW should use the ticket price difference
as something for positive marketing and promotion.
Look at how much they charge,
look at how much we charge.
I actually think they should use this too.
Again, not to say we like all we see,
but WWE on Raw and Smackdown
gives you this much time of action.
AEW gives you this much time of action.
They should really push the us versus them thing,
start doing it right now because it works
and the divide is happening.
And I think it's a smart thing.
It's the kind of thing that gets people
to want to rally behind AEW
or really rally behind any kind of
competition. You know what? It's like the fancy French restaurant that charges high prices and the
portions are very tiny. It tastes delicious, but there's almost nothing there and it'll break you.
Whereas across the street at the greasy spoon, you got a 50-50 chance of getting tomean,
but you could eat all you want. Yeah. But I mean, if you're not even, if you're just like,
hey, we're here, come see us. It's one thing. If it's, you can go get that filet mignon over there,
or for us, $5 gets you in the door,
all you can eat burgers, free drinks.
Bring the family dog, we'll feed the dog too.
Bring the pigs, we'll slop them, we'll eat everything.
But again, notwithstanding AEWs,
booking, roster, whatever,
as a competitor to WWE,
should they be using these things publicly
to tell the wrestling fans who aren't on Twitter all day,
the people who are actually going to buy tickets
in these different towns?
Well, yeah, it all,
honesty, you've got to be careful because that does open
you up to the backlash of the jokes of, yeah, of course you don't charge
any money. It's not worth anything. And you know, and you don't want to
market yourself actively as the Walmart
of the wrestling industry. But if you can, as you said, turn it around
and hey, we're reasonable. We're in line with other major sports
entertainment. These guys are price
gouging or, you know,
whatever, or the elitists
at the WWE
think that everybody could afford $2,000
to take Junior to his first
fucking raw taping or whatever.
You could probably get some mileage
with that, but
they're not,
the whole AEW organization
is not long on
subtlety and sticking to a talking point.
They got a
slapy in a face was a handful of shit and they're all over the page.
So I'm not sure what it would turn into if they tried to do it.
Well, they got to do something.
And what they're doing right now is holding the line.
But again, if you want to, if you want to fuck back with the person,
fuck him with you, you got to do something eventually.
And I think those may be effective things because it's a reality.
But I don't think TKO was people just nonstop talking about how they're pricing everyone out.
they want it to happen they don't want the conversation
yeah they don't want people to acknowledge it in public they just want to do it
and get away with it well jim i have a couple of emails here before we get to the roster
i want to ask about this one because it made me laugh this was sent to corny
drive-thru gmail dot com from brian in we're all england
hope you guys are well i have a three-part question for jim
in relation to Flesh Gordon,
who had several tryout matches in the WWE
back in the early 2000s.
Did he say Flesh Gordon?
That's what he said.
Was Jim ever aware of this guy in WWE developmental?
Did he spend time in OVW?
Have you seen his dark match on Smackdown
versus Sin Bodie, among other matches?
Thank you.
Do you remember a wrestling name?
My first thought was he confusing?
Flesh would flash?
But then I was like, did Flesh Flanagan do this?
No, no.
And there was
a Flesh Gordon movie that was
I think in the late 70s
when they were still shooting porn on
35 millimeter. It was a big
budget. Oh my God.
Flash Gordon takeoff.
There is a wrestler named Flesh Gordon.
Okay.
Flesh Gordon.
I'm afraid to ask what his gimmick is.
Well, Flesh Gordon, who is a French
wrestler. His real name is Gerard Hervey. He has been a dominant fan favorite. Is he a brother of
Jason Hervey? He's been a dumb. Why did that get me? He's been a dominant fan favorite in France since
the 1980s when his matches began airing on national television. Since the 1980s, how old is this
fucking guy? He was born June of 53. He's 71 now. Jesus Christ, did this guy just asking if
We was in OVW or something?
What did he say?
In the early 2000s,
let me see if it says anything here by WWE,
having practiced boxing from the age of 14,
as well as pancreation,
in the 1970s he went to Mexico and discovered Lucha Libre.
He started wrestling as super flesche.
By 1979, he returned home
and made his debut on French TV wrestling,
initially under his real name,
but soon adopting the Flesh Gordon identity.
he wrestled for the FFCP regularly teaming with Walter Bords
Oh well if he's okay with Walter he's okay with me
with whom he held the FFCP French tag team championship
later in the decade he would team with Prince Zephy
he became a regular on Eurosports new catch program
also appearing in Wales for Welsh Channel
S4C's Reslo Wrestling Show
and home video releases by German CWA.
Now I know them.
The point is if this guy was born in 1953,
what fucking, how old was he,
did they think he was going to be in OVW
or get a tryout or be a developmental
or whatever the fuck, and he was in his 50s?
He became the European champion in 1988,
the World Light Heavyweight Champion in 92,
and then created a wrestling school.
In 95, the Belgian TV show Strip Tees
devoted an episode to him entitled Flesh Gordon,
and the fireman.
He's been wrestling for French wrestling promotion
wrestling stars since its creation in 2001
and holds the position
of national technical director.
So you don't remember Flesh Gordon
as much as you say.
No, I do not remember old Fleshy.
If I Google Flesh Gordon?
Is he still wrestling or is now
is he just a technical director?
Also, it says here,
Flesh Gordon is a 1974 American superhero
sex comedy,
which is a spoof of the Universal Pictures
Flash Gordon serial films of the 30s.
All right, I've not seen that smut.
I'll see if we could find a copy of that.
But no knowledge of Flesh Gordon.
What do you think of the name,
Flesh Gordon?
Well, for a porn movie, I think it's pretty fucking neat.
For a wrestler, not so much, I don't think.
Because, again, what...
How would you go out and portray that?
You'd be dressed up as a space traveler,
except that you're fucking thrust in your dick in people's face?
I don't know what...
Flesh Gordon.
Well, Jim, our next email was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com.
This is from Daniel.
Hello, Jim and Brian.
I'm wondering if either of you know the first heel commentator in pro wrestling
or when the concept originated.
Besides Lawler, Ventura, and Neutral.
Heenan, I don't think it works well. People aren't interested in what happens next week when
the commentators explaining how much the babyface deserved to be beaten with a baseball bat by 12
guys. Triple H owes much of his success to Jim Ross, who sold the outrage and disgust over the
actions of the cerebral assassin. So, Jim, heel commentators, who was the first, and what do you
think of the concept overall? Something you have done.
well first of all who was the first who was the first anything really and what do you count do you
because it's a tradition in tv studio wrestling in many if not all of the territories going back a long
time that every so often you'd have a guy sit in on commentary on a match involving somebody
that he was going to be facing if it was a heel then he was technically he was doing heel
commentary and they would work shit off of that and Eddie Graham had guys do
commentary a lot on Florida television and that's what Watts did the same thing in
Mid South as far as a regular weekly heel of opinionated broadcaster people think
that Jesse was the first but Piper was technically doing it in Atlanta
in what was that, 81, well before,
was it 81 or 82?
He was definitely doing it in 82.
He may have started at the end of 81, I'm not sure.
But he was definitely doing it in 82.
And while he was noted as a heel when he started
and he would take up for the heels,
he gradually, he didn't pour it on
like he was an active wrestler
because they made him strictly an announcer.
And then when he started getting into the fucking angles,
That's when, you know, he not only was more heelish,
but then also when later on we switched baby face.
But can you think of anybody that was regular before that?
Because most of the time in the territory days,
you didn't want to put one of your talent roster
on the announced desk every week for the entire show.
People got tired of them, it burn them out, whatever.
but you'd always have the manager sit in every once in a while
or another top guy.
So I think maybe was Roddy the first time they used a heel,
a heel point of view as the regular color guy every week?
I think so.
Because before that,
there only been really retired baby faces in those kind of roles,
whether it was Anthony, Raqa, or, you know, L.A.,
they used to have Jules Stromba doing the interviews backstage.
but it was never really like a Lord Layton
you know it was never
I shouldn't say never George Cannon was a heel
and then he became a commentator for his promotion
but that was his promotion
but typically it was a retired baby face
who you'd see as a commentator
not necessarily an active baby face
and so that answers the question of who was the first
and then when Jesse
got over doing it
and it was at the same time that the business was an all-around
hot period, then other people started taking it and running with it.
And that's why at one point in time, I did it, or Bobby Heenan did it, or Paul Lee did it,
or Terry Funk did it, or on and on and on Michael Hayes.
So that's, but before it was always thought that your announcers need to play it straight.
And because they're the salesman of your product, you don't want them to be,
you know, just full of shit because they're your salesman.
But in the early days, especially with Piper and Jesse early on and et cetera, and even
me and Heenan, the heel guy would back up and try to be more of an announcer than a talent
and constantly putting themselves over whoever they're affiliated with and take more
of a broader look like, okay, I'm going to be, I'm going to be sympathetic to the heels,
but I'm kind of going to be more of an announcer.
Those are the ones that had better success at it
and the ones you got tired of quicker
are the ones that just went out and did their same shit
because as we mentioned,
sometimes entertaining promo guys
don't translate to entertaining commentators.
Well, Jim, as we get ready to go to the main event,
the AEW roster review from K-on.
Let's briefly, and there's no other way to do,
this. Go over the
pay-per-view card this coming weekend,
premium live event, money in the bank
2025, the 16th annual
Money in the Bank pay-per-view event
from the Intuit Dome in
Inglewood, California. And by the
way, I remember where if you had
come to Vince McMahon with, here's
the pay-per-view card
and you had like
two multiple-person
matches and
a couple more, and
where's the rest of it?
And this is what they're getting away with now, right?
Well, here's the card, and make sure you have your
clock out for this event. I'd like to know how much time is in between these matches.
A last chance match for the WWE Women's Intercontinental Championship,
Lyra Valkyria, the champion, versus Becky Lynch.
Here are the stipulations.
if Lynch loses
she can no longer challenge
for the title for as long as Valkyria is champion
if Valkyria loses
she'll be forced to raise Lynch's hand
and acknowledge
Lynch has the better woman
otherwise that was the last chance match
otherwise known as
you goddamn just did the job
so go ahead and raise her hand
I mean this
could go either way because obviously Becky Lynch is a far bigger star than old lyric,
but they're also friends and Becky's doing this to try to get her over. It ain't going to work,
but I wouldn't be surprised because Becky doesn't need the women's intercontinental title if they
don't do that. Lyric wins and Becky can't challenge for it until somebody else wins it
and then everything's fine. Or maybe they'll go with some heat.
and make lyric raise her hand,
and then Becky will turn around and kick a shit out of her.
I don't know.
And to paraphrase an old Abbott and Costello routine,
I don't care.
If Abbottom Costello saw the match,
he might yell, chick!
But, um,
Jim,
speaking of the chicks here,
going back to this match here, Jim,
Lyra Valchuria,
Lyra Valkyria versus Becky Lynch,
last chance match.
In terms of the Money in the Bank winner,
do they only get the challenge
for a world title
or is this title,
also included they could challenge
for the Intercontinental title?
Well, yes, because they've said
somebody on the guys' side
just said, I could challenge you
for something or other.
So theoretically, they can challenge
for any title.
They've established that.
Let's now go, Jim, to the Money in the Bank matches.
The Men's Money in the Bank ladder match
for a men's championship match
contract
Solo
Sacoa
versus
L.A. Knight
versus
Penta
versus
Seth Rollins
versus
Andrade
versus
El Grande
Americano.
Oh boy.
And
it would have been
nice if they'd have
had more
of the main event
guys in the
big money in the bank
men's match,
but then they would have
have to stick a bunch of their stars in there that they wouldn't be winning.
Obviously, Penta ain't going to win the thing, although I'll enjoy seeing him in the ring
with Gable again.
Maybe Gable has learned the word receipt.
But Andre, obviously, no, Gable, no, Penta, no, L.A. Knight, they're teasing us.
And something's going to happen probably with solo and the,
rest of his estranged family. Seth has got to win this. Does he not? He's the leader of the new
top heel faction with Paul, with the two bronze. They look like the modern incarnation of a
horseman type group. I don't see Seth not winning this thing, do you? Well, it seems obvious,
but, you know, they do also have to find the way to get punk on this card. And punk O'S
Seth won from Monday, if Punk costs Seth money in the bank when it's clear that he's going to
win, I guess Braun and Bronson are distracted by Sammy or who else, I don't know. And
punk does something to cost Seth that it furthers their feud because technically they don't
need, neither one of them need a belt. And again, it goes into the whole one screwed the other
one. It's natural. But then it becomes who wins. Well, yeah, because if there were more
main event guys in this mix, you'd say, okay, but who do we want to see
of these other five get a title shot?
Yeah, and of those five, who would use that title shot and actually win the title?
So we'll see. Seth Rowland seems like he'd be the pick, but also I think
he probably has to get fucked over in some way on the card.
But who knows? Maybe don't make Andrade in one night.
Jim, the women's money in the Bangaladder match for a women's championship match
contract.
Alexa Bliss versus
Roxanne Perez
versus Ria Ripley
versus Julia
versus Naomi
versus Stephanie
Vakair.
Oh boy, well I mean
again, obviously if we're going on star
power, Ria is
as over as all five
other young ladies combined.
but they might want to do something with Naomi
because of her and Bianca,
Naomi's a vicious heel now.
I mean, you know, the internet crowd is just a buzz
over Stephanie and Julia,
but are they going to draw any money?
Are you surprised they got brought up
and I kind of incorporated into the main mix so quickly?
Yeah.
I mean, they're good.
And I think Stephanie Vacker is very good.
but still usually they keep those people in NXT for a while
and I don't know who else has gone to NXT
and come up this quickly.
Yeah, I see, I'm not seeing they can wrestle.
I'm not seeing any fireball personalities
or incredible promos or whatever,
but I mean, besides again, Ria is the natural choice
because she's the biggest star,
but they've got Naomi at a program with Bianca.
do you see, you know, any of the other girls challenging for the world title and any kind of money match?
You know, say, hard to stand up to Ria.
I think she ought to just beat the other five up and call it a day.
Ria does need a win at some point soon.
I feel like we've seen her on the losing end a lot for someone who has to stay over, needs to stay over.
She's good.
Jim, the final match, the fourth match.
A tag team match.
Cody Rhodes and Jay Uso versus John Sina and Logan Paul.
And I guess you would normally say, well, here's the big match where it's, you know,
Brett Hart and somebody against the Undertaker or whatever, and that's a bigger draw
than the money in the bank matches.
but they just announced this like last week.
So I think they're just saying,
fuck it,
wherever we're at is paying us a bunch of money
and the things sold out
because the fans will buy the tickets
no matter what we charge
and we're getting paid the rights fee
for this broadcast,
whether anybody buys pay-per-view or not.
So fuck it.
Four matches and here they are.
And with the tag match,
one with three,
think that this would be Cody's opportunity
to do something important
and either beat somebody or show some life.
But we will see.
Well, that's the premium live event from the Intuit...
What is it? The Intuit Dome? It is a dome.
How many seats are there in the Intuit Dome? Hold on.
Intuit Dome seats.
An undetermined amount of people, apparently.
They're not a number of people.
anywhere here doesn't say the capacity.
Well, is it one of the
little it, bitty domes or one of the big
bad domes?
And do it, do it, into it, don't.
Do it, and do it, do it, don't capacity.
18,000 people.
See, that's a little dome. That's a big arena, but a little dome.
All right, Jim, well, let's now go
to the main event here.
Yeah, boy.
The AEW roster review,
we previously went through A3
as well as the women's roster.
Any thoughts or notes before we continue on
with this review of the roster?
Well, I think we got to bring people up to date.
Basically, you can hear our thought processes
behind the whole thing on YouTube.
The clip is there reviewing the roster A through J or whatever.
But we can't take the booking out on the talent
because it's not their fault.
and in some cases how they've been booked.
We're just taking the talent that I think that you could actually do something with
in a serious real professional promotion instead of the, hey, kids,
let's put on a show, All Friends Network.
And it might be changing their presentation or baby face to heal or whatever.
We'll determine that later on.
But is there something with anybody?
And I will real quick recap, we have kept Bobby Lashley,
Shelton Benjamin, Samoa Joe, Powerhouse Hobbs, Anthony Bowens, AR Fox, Austin and Colton Gun, Bandito.
And by the way, we're keeping them all but not permanently.
And some of them I'm on the fence about still.
Big Bill, Brody King, Buddy Matthews, Cash Wheeler, Claudio.
And you're on the fence too there, Brian.
I'm not on any fence.
I'm on any fence.
No Claudio.
You've fallen completely over into the pig pen.
Darby Allen, Dax Wheeler, Dustin, Hook, J. Lethal, J. White, Juice, Robinson, John Morrison, and Josh Alexander.
And in the middle in potentially non-wrestling capacities, we've got Christian Cage, Billy Gunn, Adam Cole,
Ariya Davari, and Jeff Jarrett.
Yes.
And the non- wrestling capacity is stay home.
Well, no.
they could be promoters, they could be trainers,
they could be fucking producers.
We're talking about whether we keep people,
but not how we use them.
I would put Adam Cole in charge
at a video game division.
Well, he couldn't have done worse than Kenny.
What happened to that thing, by the way?
That's another clip.
We're going to get bogged down.
That's another roster.
And we have fired, well, hold on,
we have fired John Moxley,
Kenny Omega,
because like I said, if you got two train chimps doing the same tricks,
pick the youngest and the freshest one,
and we've not got to Osprey yet.
We fired John Moxley, Kenny Omega, Shepoopee,
Okada underlined, Solo.
Who's so, that's not Solo, Sokoa.
Aaron Solo.
Aaron Solo.
Action Andretti, Adam Page, because he's an empty-headed dip shit.
Alex Abrantis, because we couldn't figure out what he does.
Alex Reynolds.
Angelico, Angelo Parko, Parco.
Angelico, Angelo Parker, and a go-go, is what I'm trying to say.
B-Con, who is that?
Is that Tony's brother?
Bishop Congates of agony.
Okay.
Brandon Cuddler, Brian Cage, Brian Danielson, because we can't wrestle and he's gone
apesh mentally over the end.
indie wrestling crowd.
Brian Keith, Charlie Bravo,
Chris Jericho, Christian
Cage, as I said, up in the middle.
Chuck Taylor, Colt Cabana,
Edge, hate to say it.
Danhausen, Daniel Garcia,
Dante Martin, Darius Martin,
Drillistico, Eddie Kingston,
Evaluno, Griff Garrison, Hologram,
a Cassidy of some description.
I've just got Cassidy here.
Sean, David, one of you.
Cassidy from a
very he's that yeah he's their younger brother
Jack Perry John Silver and Josh Woods that was the
fired list and we just got to K now
and you keep saying we
I would have kept Omega too but you know a few
differences than yours well because you can't teach him
and actually I'm rethinking Osprey
after the interview that he did where he said oh
bro we smoke we smoke the
W.W. in every aspect of wrestling,
except for professionalism,
drawing money, and gaining viewership.
It's sometimes you can't,
do you want an employee for your widget
company that not only is not good at making widgets,
but wants to make different fucking widgets
than what the majority of the people want to buy?
Sometimes you just can't teach these fuckers.
Well, let's get back to teaching about widgets
here on Fantasyland.
Continue with the list. Let's go to the letter K.
I got the paper right here.
Limitless Keith Lee.
Fuck, I forgot about him.
Apparently he just put out a statement too recently.
Someone's like, hey, what's going on?
He's like, I feel perfectly healthy.
I'm just waiting.
What the fuck?
Wait a minute.
Every time he's gone, he says he's perfectly healthy.
He comes back.
We hear the story that he was near death.
He looks near death.
And then he goes away again.
And then he says, I'm perfectly healthy.
healthy.
I'm sorry, he's got to be perfectly gone.
I just, I can't do this,
the back and forth and the,
the Frazier promo and the gray hair
and the fucking whatever, there was something
there. It's long since past.
See you later, Keith.
Here's what it is, Jim, apparently.
Someone on Twitter,
I don't have their name here.
I wrote, I hope Keith Lee is okay and doing well.
I hope I will see him back in the ring.
In hope, you are doing well health-wise.
I am truly blessed to be one of the many to watch you in the ring, and hope to once again.
To which Keith Lee responded,
You have my appreciation.
I am quite well.
Only time will tell when or where, but I am confident that time will come.
Have patience, my friend.
Lead with love, be well.
This is a very nice man, I have to say.
Very polite, polite man.
Jim back to the roster here.
Kevin Knight.
Kevin Knight, we got to keep him.
There's something going on there.
We would see more of him and maybe figure out something.
Let's keep him.
I agree, a good recent hire.
What about Kill Switch, formerly Luchosaurus?
Oh, good Lord.
If he ever does come back, I would suggest he leave again.
Kill Switch, Dino Dush, whatever.
If he was, Keky was, Keky was.
of anything, we'd have seen it by now, a long time before now.
And the only thing he's ever done has gotten away.
Here's someone who looks like an evil Colin Thompson, aka Colin Thompson,
super bad Kip Sabian.
Pip Sabian, yeah, Sionara, Pip.
He was gone for about a year, just sitting in the crowd with a box on his head.
That's the best work he's ever done.
Jim, what about Commander?
Oh, come on.
you wouldn't want WWW to sign them
why not
Commander could be commanded to go somewhere else
again you've got
well I mean I don't have the entire list in front of me
you're reading it to me but we need to keep
one
of the gravity defying luchadors
and I don't remember truthfully which is the best
one if there's any difference is it commander
is it hologram, is it pentagram, is it octogram?
The best one was Elio do Vikingo.
Well, he's gone, isn't he?
And now that guy has a good ticket to every WWE show, it seems like.
Those are expensive things.
You need one.
I don't know.
Maybe later on we'll go back and figure out who the best one.
Bandito, I think that's why we put him down there.
He actually has the power to move a grown man around.
All right.
So wait and see on command.
Commander, Jim the new Jim...
No, I'm putting him down as he's gone.
Oh, okay. Adios Commander is what I'm asked.
Now that I've seen Bandito again, I'm reminded we've already got one.
Jim, the NJPW never openweight champion from the Don Kowas family, Konosuke Takesta.
Keep him.
We can start him over again under a different name with a different push.
Maybe nobody remember what they've done to him so far.
Did you see he just announced he got married?
I did not.
I wasn't actually looking for that announcement, therefore I didn't see it.
You want to know who he married? I swear to God it's true.
Oh, come on. Now, he didn't marry somebody that I would know who the fuck they are.
He married Yuka Sakazaki.
I know you know that name because it's such a catchy name.
It's fun to say.
Yes, it's a catchy name.
Well, maybe now she'll be barefoot and pregnant and give up the wrestling game.
Well, Jim, you want to keep Takesha.
What about Koda Ibiza?
Abushi.
Now let's let him join Commander.
Although, do we have a motorized wheelchair to help
Abushi get out the door?
You know, I would keep him just because I don't think he's
going to be wrestling much, and I kind of want to see him.
I don't know.
You need a heel to really go over someone and make it look.
There's just something about, like, the dirtiness of him
every time he walks out there with like that blank look on his face.
And then we're told he's a great worker.
Every time he's come out there, he's bombed.
I guess perversely I want to see more, but I can understand why you'd get rid of him.
Well, we'll let the perverts have a pick at the roster later on.
Jim from the Don Callis family, Kyle Fletcher.
We got to keep Kyle.
Again, it's not his fault.
He's surrounded by a bunch of morons.
He's improved his body.
He's got the size.
He's very athletic.
He just needs somebody to teach him why he's doing all this shit.
Would you keep Kyle O'Reilly from the Paragon?
Yeah, we said we weren't going to hold booking against anybody.
Purely as a performer, yes.
And again, you know, there's hope that people would forget
if you kept some of these people hidden long enough,
forget what they've seen before and you could reintroduce them.
That was a good, hardworking, dedicated young man.
What about the Murder Hawk Monster from the Don Callis family, Lance Archer?
You know, again, if we're not taking the booking into account,
just the whole stupid way that he's been presented for the entire five or six years or whatever,
you could do something with him.
He's not going to be the world champion.
Let's keep Lance Archer for right now.
What about big shoty, Lee Johnson?
and we'll put Lance Archer in the spot that's been vacated by Lee Johnson on his way out the door.
Jim, what about the ring of honor?
No size, no physique, no, what the fuck, interchangeable with all of these indie guys.
What about the Ring of Honor Pure Champion from Shane Taylor promotions Lee Moriarty.
Now that I'm trying to think, do I know the difference between Lee Johnson and Lee Moriarty?
Fire both of them.
What about Leo Rush?
from crew
no keep that little
weasel
he's
I agree
he can he can talk
and he can work
and he's got something
he would again be
one of the
hottest managers
in the history of the business
if I was the booker
what about the butler
Luther
oh crick
can we
please send Eric von Stroheim
to the motion picture
country home.
What about from the MXM collection, Mansour?
And Monswey can go with him.
Whatever, what's the other guy's name?
We have him here, too.
He's under this MXM collection, Mason Madden.
Yeah, well, both of them are, they're not John Madden, neither one of them.
They're gone.
That's just, no, that'll never be redeemable.
Mark Briscoe.
we're keeping him
obviously not even a thought
in terms of crowd reaction and
involvement with main things
even though he's lost a ton
he loses it seems like every single match
do you think it's done anything to help
the crowd reactions to him the fact that
it seems like he's getting over more
right now than he has before in ring of honor
in AWW
even though he's been there for a while
and obviously he had a lot of sympathy
love from people and people like them anyway at the beginning,
but it seems like right now it's kind of,
not to say it's clicking,
but it's clicking better than it has an AEW for him.
Well, yeah,
because this is a thing that's taken out of the hands of the booking
and is in the hands of the fans.
And regardless of whether he wins or loses,
at first they were sympathetic because of what happened with Jay.
But since then, Mark is just so good every time you see him,
that he's gotten over on his own merits,
as he always does and should.
But now the people know that he's being mistreated
and there's an extra, like, you know,
yes, we like this guy and we want to show it
because it's a sympathy fucking cheer.
It's the same day.
It's like when the Midd Out Express was getting beaten WCW all the time,
the people cheered for us even more
because they knew we were being fucked around.
They like Mark.
to begin with, and they know that he's deserved much better than this.
And so they're making their feelings known.
But, you know, nevertheless, yes, you'd have to be a complete idiot,
not to be able to understand that Mark Briscoe could be a major part of the roster.
That's why the company is being run by a complete fucking idiot.
Well, speaking of Mark's Jim from the Don Callas family, Mark Davis.
I forgot about him.
He's the one with the giant fucking voluminous ass, isn't he?
I guess you can say that.
He chose to.
I mean, he did one move one time that I really liked.
I mean, it's just so bland and blah, but let's keep him for a little while and see if we can figure out anything.
Mark Davis.
From the premier athletes are representing them, smart Mark Sterling.
Sorry. They somehow got him to refrain from hocking up the whole thing the other night,
but every time we've seen him, it's just he's a parody of a manager and a parody of a lawyer,
and I think he needs to be a parody of an employed person.
From private party, Mark Quinn.
And you know what? He's the one that I said, the high-flying fellow. Get rid of the Martins,
because they're always broke down anyway,
and Mark Quinn would be the high-flying guy,
but somebody commented,
and I think it was on Twitter,
that we haven't seen Mark Quinn in a while,
and he's been hurt too.
Did he have to tone down on the flying stuff?
Which was his raison de'etre, as they say.
Keep Mark Quinn if he can still jump.
What about Daddy Magic?
Matt Menard.
See if he can jump out to,
door.
Jim, what about
Eddie Max gone?
Matt Seidel.
Oh, come on.
I mean, you know, he was a nice
worker a number of years ago.
We haven't seen him on TV and forever,
but at this point, age may be an issue.
And also, he's small and does a lot of leaping
like everybody else that we're trying to get rid of.
I don't see a place for Matt Seidel right there.
Do you see a place for Kingdom member Matt
Taven.
Where is he?
Where the fuck is he?
Matt Taven at one point,
in 2012,
I think,
we were trying to get him into Ring of Honor.
He was the future of fucking wrestling.
And he could do everything.
And then,
and now him and Bennett,
they've been hidden for so long.
Yes, I'd keep Matt Taven.
He's still young.
and try to find him to determine what his strengths are these days.
All right.
What about EVP from the young bucks and the elite, Matthew Jackson?
How quickly could we give him his termination?
Can I hire him for two different jobs I can fire him from both of them?
If you were going to fire the bucks and you did it on air live,
do you think it would help the show?
Yes.
I might make it pay-per-view.
Well, then they may not show up.
You got to surprise him with it.
Well, no, I would know.
I would say, hey, you assholes, you've got X amount of time on your contract.
If you want any of that money, you will come to this pay-per-view where we're going to advertise it.
We're a fire your fucking asses in the middle of the ring and demand that you apologize to the fans for fucking up their only chance at a goddamn alternate wrestling promotion.
All right, Jim, what about?
I think people would buy that.
would you buy Max Caster?
I don't think so anymore.
He was over for a while with the rap and the whole thing and he lost it.
His matches were never his strong point.
Bowens has passed him in the kind of hardworking dedication category.
I mean, what do you think?
It's so weird because they were so hot.
and then the breakup happened,
the match happened,
but it's almost like it didn't.
Like nothing really,
it's the weirdest like,
these guys were a team,
they were teasing the breakup,
then the breakup happened
and everyone just kind of went their own way,
and then Castor started losing in seconds,
and then Bowen just reappeared one day,
Bowens, excuse me,
and beat him.
And beat him with Billy Gunn,
and beat him.
And then...
In one minute.
I don't think we've seen Castor again,
and Bowens can't win
a match. That was the feud. That was the whole breakup of the hottest tag team they had,
be acclaimed, at least for a time. Jim, what about, yeah, let's cast, castor out.
What about Michael Nakazawa? Oh, for fuck's sake, he can't even still be employed there,
certainly not. He is on the roster. This is their roster. All right, well, he wouldn't be
anymore. I mean, that's a fairly foregone conclusion, a waste of time to begin with, and he
was just because he was Kenny's jock holder and bag carrier.
And he was the guy with the baby oil.
So they can't bring him back now with the heat that baby oils got.
So there you go.
Just more joke fucking wrestling and friends,
stooge friends to get a job off of the billionaire.
What about speedball Mike Bailey?
Oh, boy.
I mean, there are, there are so many people on this roster that I would just relish the thought of being able to fire in person.
Hold on, I got to start another page here.
Spitball Bailey.
It would be.
We're only an M.
Gone and forgotten.
I'm on page three of firings and I've only just started page two on the keepings.
What page does Mike Bennett of the kingdom go on?
Mike Bennett goes back in the kingdom.
keepings until I could at least see since he was a fabulous fucking in-ring talent 10 years ago
and I saw them have some wonderful tag team matches more recently than that until they got
under this umbrella.
I would want to see Mike Bennett and what he's doing these days to determine if he can still
go, but my God, he's younger than some fucking folks and you don't see him.
I don't know. I would probably give up on him and Taven based on the way they were used,
the way people reacted to them. The lack of reaction, I think, is the big...
But we said we weren't going to count booking, because that wasn't their fault,
that we're going to just take the guy.
And Taven and Bennett were an excellent athletic tag team that you could see working with FTR,
that you could see working with Juice Robinson and old light switch Jay White, that you could say...
Wrestling tag teams instead of small gymnastic children or big giant fucking fat schlubs.
You need some athletic tag teams in the upper middle of the card to provide a little action.
It doesn't mean you have to goddamn make them the main event of the biggest pay-per-view of the year.
Go ahead.
MJF from the Hurt Syndicate.
Let's keep him for now.
Just for the sake of it.
They have them here, but obviously we'll not be using them for the practice that we're doing here,
compiling a roster, but Brody Lee and Brody Lee Jr., negative one from the Dark Order.
From the Hertz Syndicate, MVP.
Well, MVP would be kept, but we got to put him in the middle as a manager rather than an active wrestler.
A manager, agent, trainer, potential fucking judge of wrestler's court.
from the young bucks
and EVP also in the elite
Nicholas Jackson
Yeah let's get rid of him along with his
fucking goofy brother as quickly as possible
That's what's caused a lot of this mess to begin with
What about Nick Comerato?
You know, maybe later
if we were working on projects
for years from now
and et cetera, we could evaluate him
but right now let's just not
because he's been gone so long.
There's got to be something the matter with him.
He just came back lost in seconds.
We don't have this much time.
The Ring of Honor World TV champion
from the patriarchy, Nick Wayne.
Oh, good Lord.
I would be open
to allowing him to return
when he can legally rent a car.
Otherwise, you know, no physique.
Kind of a moopy face.
He's good.
to be a stooge in a group or,
but the way that they focused on him
is some kind of second coming is just ridiculous.
And unfortunately, he looks like
so much of the rest of the roster
we're trying to weed that look out
is they're just children playing wrestler
and not somebody you would take seriously
in a big budget promotion,
maybe on an indie show.
And he could spend some time there
and get some wonderful experience.
for when he ever grows up and develops a personality.
I'm sorry, continue on.
Freshly squeezed, Orange Cassidy.
Ha ha!
Would be freshly squeezed right out the door.
I mean, patience zero for the fucking joke of this whole promotion.
How can we make wrestling seem as fake and silly and uninteresting as possible
with a bunch of fucking,
what's the complete antithesis of the word tough,
a bunch of soft-ass childish pussies
playing with each other instead of men fighting.
You look that up in the dictionary, however you might do that,
and there's a picture of our little puppy pockets.
He's not redeemable,
and he's obviously has no discernible talent for major league wrestling.
What about Ortiz?
Good Lord.
When did we last see him?
Has it been three years?
I don't remember the last time, actually.
I know Santana is in team.
Santana left.
He's in TV right now, yeah.
He asked to get out of there.
And remember the bone of contention between them as a team was that
Santana was saying Ortiz was content to just sit around and get paid and do what he was told.
and Santana had higher aspirations.
That's why he left.
Do you think that Ortiz has still been sitting home just getting paid?
Well, I sit at home when you could be flown into the show.
I really don't know.
I don't know.
Wouldn't we have accidentally seen him in a backstage segment if he was still around?
Again, we'll see what we can find out.
I don't know that there's really, let's hold on.
I'm losing my notes now.
Let's take Ortiz out of.
this equation because I don't remember what he looks like at this point.
Well, Jim, what about Death Riders member PAC?
Boy, that's a hard one.
Because physically, not only his look, but what he can do athletically, you would think
there's some way that he could be used.
But at the same time, he tries to do all the top rope shit that everybody else does
and he's slow at it,
and you have to stand there and wait on him forever.
But as if he had a manager and it was in a group
and he didn't have to talk,
but he could just do his shit,
and he was focused on,
let's keep pack.
Just a completely different presentation,
and he would mean something.
And also he goes away for, I know they,
nonstop.
Who was it hurting just now?
Oh, he was in a match?
It was his act?
He buckled bombed him and broke his ankle, but who was it that?
Oh, fuck, I don't remember now.
So it's almost like a German suplexed this guy.
He busted my head open.
How many times you ever heard that before?
I buckled bombed a guy and broke his ankle.
What the f?
And that was like weeks after I said how I,
the one thing I don't like about pack is that he always disappears for a period of time,
whether it's injury or visa issues.
And then he just reappears and attacks someone.
He's going to do it again now.
He's just going to all of a sudden reappear and they get hurt again or something.
What about Paul White?
Oh, good Lord.
I mean, he was supposed to be doing commentary years ago when they signed.
He did do commentary on YouTube.
But since when, for how long has it been since he is not?
Well, the YouTube canceled the, well, actually, they didn't cancel anything.
AW just stopped doing it.
Boy, when YouTube cancels you, I'm not saying this for idiotic.
other reason, then there's nothing for him to do, but we've got to get rid of him because there's
nothing for him to do. What about Pretty Peter Avalon? Oh, Christ.
Pretty Peter needs to be, needs to Peter out. Pretty Peter is pretty gone.
See, this is the kind of, again, just all these names of indie guys that never,
never should have been involved in national television to begin with
is what cluttered this show up from the start. Go ahead.
Was Peter Avalon the librarian?
Yes.
Oh, no shit.
He's been there that whole time. Wow.
Yes.
All right.
What about Preston Vance?
Speaking of people that have been there forever.
What about Preston Vance?
God damn, he was rotting the other night, wasn't he?
Yeah, he's gone.
No personality, no look, no gimmit.
horrible name.
Sometimes you can't tell if he's awake.
The bleh.
Prince Nanna.
Prince Nanna would go in the middle with MVP
in the manager's list
and
then one would look for someone
that Nana could manage that he could actually
make successful so he'd have somewhat of a reputation
as a manager and he'd get a chance
talk every once in a while.
but that's just pie in the sky.
In the sky, Rickusay.
Rickishay!
Well, he's going to bounce back from this decision, I'm sure,
that Rickishay needs to go somewhere else.
Really, you haven't seen enough of him as a heel to think,
okay, there's something I could do with him?
No, because he's an idiot, apparently, in real life,
and doesn't understand that everybody thinks he's a goddamn nerd.
And I mean, athletically, you know, you could do something with a chicken shit heel that acts like that and looks like that, except he has to know that he's being an annoying person instead of just being one and thinking that nothing's wrong.
I don't think this guy's smart to the business.
All right.
What about Roderick Strong from the Paragon?
Boy, there again, you know, you could put Roddy in the ring with anybody and have a good match.
He was definitely an asset 10, 15 years ago in Ring of Honor.
He's getting older now and nobody has put any credibility in him whatsoever since he's been in this facocta company.
He was just out there screaming people's names and wearing a neck brace and shit.
But as an actual athletic performer, again, not to be the world champion,
and but to have good athletic matches with other now younger guys that you want to push,
I would keep Roddy.
Because he doesn't have to be at angles and cut fucking 15 minute promos, Roddy.
Go out there and in a fucking stiff athletic fashion,
I'd like you to put Colton Gun over in nine minutes for me.
Boom, you don't have to worry about nothing.
what about El Toro Blanco from La Faxione In Gobernales?
Or actually, it's not paralyzed.
Rush!
He's the asshole that just beats the shit out of whole of baby faces, stands there and doesn't sell anything, isn't he?
It's called working.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
We got Bandito.
We don't need Rush.
I think he's got a bad attitude.
Obviously, there's a lot of luchadores over the past 30 years that we've done.
seen come up from Mexico and either have success or just at least be on US TV, where do you
fall on the names? Like obviously, to the fans of Roush, the name doesn't matter. Maybe it works
better in Mexico, but to the average person, do you think it works as a name for a wrestler
Roos? No. No, it doesn't. Nor, that's again, that's the thing, when you have one Luchador
Ray Mysterio.
And it's a cool Santa name and it's a cool mask and it's a cool outfit and he's a exceptional
talent in a area that has not been or had not at the time that people saw him.
Been overexposed and beat to death, small high flyer.
It needs the package.
You can't just have these guys with these goofy names that don't
translate that can't speak, that all look the same to the casual observer because they're all
wearing mostly full body outfits and some kind of decorated mask, and they're doing the
same style of shit and the same moves and expect any of them to get over no matter how good
they are.
You don't throw 10 people out there doing the same kind of shit, and hey, pick the best one.
you say this guy
does a different style
and different shit
than everybody else
on my roster
and I'm going to feature him
because he's the best one at it.
I'm sorry.
Rush can rush on out.
Ring of Honor World Trade Team champion
Sammy Guevara.
Boy, how do you kit?
We know that he's kind of a dip shit.
Do we want to put up with that?
Has he grown up a little bit
learned his lesson.
He still, six years ago, we said he looks like he's 12 years old.
That's been six years.
Now he looks 14.
You know, let's keep him around because he has, if you could produce him,
if you could avoid him having to tell us all at least one time per match that he's a crazy
lunatic.
I'm loco.
Watch this.
I'm loco.
I'm going to do something stupid.
Go, stupid, go.
Go, stupid.
Go, stupid.
it's just
well I guess you'll keep him all right
we'll keep him all right
we'll keep him
satinem sing
oh brother
sorry satanum
you've been sitting out so far
and now you're going to be set out for the rest
no
not in this particular day and age
can you take a guy that immobile
just because he's that giant
and do anything with him
and they didn't give it a real good try
Do you think anyone will ever do a giant right again,
or is it all depend on actually having the right person?
It depends on the giant.
You know, you can always say that, well,
Vince booked Andre Wright, but not after that.
But the thing is,
the number of seven-foot people in wrestling
has drastically increased over the decades,
as I guess has the number of seven-foot people
in fucking in captivity in general.
general. So the seven-foot giant now, and especially now that people are smart in such
larger numbers, the giant needs to also be able to work. And people forget, Andre could work.
Paul White, her big show turned into a pretty good worker, but you can't just, just because a guy's
big, and I'm not saying just work, do the moves, but work have a personality, work, have
something different about you than all the other seven-foot giants that we've seen.
Jim, here's a name that recently came up.
Scorpio Sky.
Well, again, I would keep him from what I remember of him.
He was athletic.
He was a little boring on the personality side,
but his booking was weird in the SCU group that they tried to, I don't know.
let's keep Scorpio Sky just because he's a grown adult man and a pretty decent athlete and experienced and see if we can work something out later.
Again, the problem is on the keep list that we're compiling, we're keeping a lot of guys that have good solid matches are athletic and you could do something with and point in the right direction and put on the card.
but there's like three so far that I would say oh my god
this guy is one of my money guys
and I don't know if I've got three yet
and MJF has been damaged so keep going
from the Spanish announced project Serpentico
oh Christ on a cracker
he's not even a real Mexican is he
I don't know, which one is
Any of the phony Mexican?
No, that's, uh, is that
Serpentigo?
There used to be another guy who was
Angelico.
No, no, Angelico doesn't wear a mask.
He dances like a woman.
Realistico.
No, that's another guy.
They used to be, in the old days,
wasn't there another guy that was like friends with like Sammy or something
so he was on the roster?
Or was that Sepantico?
Pointy, he ain't on the roster anymore.
What about Shane Taylor?
from Shane Taylor Promotions.
Boy, I tell you what, he's got a giant fucking ass on him, doesn't he?
Not the first thing I look for.
He looks like one of those, no, he looks like one of those fucking guys that you
pour the things you pour the sand in, the boxing dummies, you pour the sand in the bottom
so they won't tip over.
I guess you're keeping him now that you're working a feud with him.
No, I'm just saying he was incredibly not physically impressive to that degree when
I saw him. No, I think he can
go also, because what the
fuck?
What about the captain
Sean Dean of both the
infantry and Shane Taylor Promotions?
How could he be a captain of both?
Doesn't the infantry
require exclusivity?
I believe he's a captain in general
and he brings that captain's ship
to both groups.
Well, why don't he go down with
his ship? All right. Well,
What about, I think we actually did him.
We did Shelton Benjamin with the tag team champions.
Yeah, because they were champions.
They were mentioned first.
Sanjay Dutt.
Well, again, Sanjay doesn't wrestle anymore.
I enjoyed working with Sanjay and TNA,
but I saw the fucking stuff he was doing
when he was with Jared with the comedy
and the jumping up and down and just everybody's having,
I liked Sanjay's, you know, attitude and determination
and work ethic.
But is he too far on the comedy wrestling now?
Let's put him in the middle as an agent
and see what happens later on.
The icon Sting.
Well, as we said about something before,
wishing one hand and shit in the other
to see which one fills up first.
Sting ain't coming back unless they give him
another multi-millions of dollars
to come and put his face paint on and sign autographs.
I don't think Sting needs to be a topic of this discussion.
He's retired.
What about Stokely?
Stokely.
There's something.
Put him in the middle as another manager.
There's something there he can talk.
Again,
if there was ever any credibility given to him as a manager of main event personnel,
and he had material that he was,
was given to talk about instead of just making shit up,
I'm not saying he can't, you know, he's not going to be Bobby Heenan, but he wouldn't suck.
What about swerve, Strickland?
You got to keep swerve until we can figure out if it's just one of those deals where they're only going to cheer him if he's a heel and they're only going to just not give a shit if he's a baby face.
I don't.
And if it's just all about chanting whose house it is.
Well, Jim, we are in the home stretch.
We are now at the letter T, starting the letter T.
What about Titty?
That's not one of the wrestlers here.
What about the beast mortos?
Frank.
Under T.
The beast mortoes under T.
What was the under T?
The beast mortos.
Would you keep them?
No.
No.
What about for the legal department?
You know what?
Let's put him in the middle.
And I'm going to put down Frank Mortos
legal department.
No, it's just
again, it's a funny looking outfit at a time
where if you wanted to be an alternative
product and appeal to a
mainstream audience, you would try to
avoid
the fucking just clown
show visual of this
program with all of the
I'm sorry, whether anybody
likes it or not, and in
some cases it was very, very bad.
The WWF and WWF and
W.W.E. have set the tone in people's mind for what a pro wrestler is supposed to look like
in terms of some type of athletic standard and size threshold. And when you get children
and guys in ridiculous bull outfits, this would go for Mantor or Yukon Moose Cholak now, too,
it just, it looks too hokey and low rent and indie wrestling.
to make money in this day and age.
So sorry.
What about the blade?
Is he still there?
He was the,
he was the bunny's
other.
Now she's not there, but he is.
Well, but he'd been there in two years at least.
When's the last time we saw this guy?
Again, they have a lot of programming that we don't watch, I think.
When did you last see his name on a website?
it didn't stick out, so I don't know.
I don't know. Well, let's stick him at.
Blade, no, sorry. He was a nice
athletic-looking guy. He wasn't the
fat-bearded old fuck, the butcher,
but, you know
what, let's keep the blade. If he
still, indeed, is still alive
because I remember he was halfway athletic,
we might could do something with it.
What about the butcher?
Let's get rid of the fucking butcher.
What about Toa Leone?
Or, that's not even the name.
Tia Leone.
Tola Leona.
No, it's not her.
It's not the actress.
Tola Leona from the Gates of Agony.
Well, I would keep Tia Leone,
but I'm not keeping anybody else.
From the premier athletes, Tony Neese.
He's, again, hadn't seen him in forever.
He came to a Ring of Honor tryout in 2010,
and I thought at that time for that program,
he was very athletic.
could go smaller size, fit some of the other guys,
it would have fit there.
Right now they don't fit.
No, no, not at all.
Square peg, round hole.
From the Don Callis family, Trent Barretta.
Oh, Christ, can we get his mother to pick him up?
That's just, he's irredeemable.
You can never come back from that shit and be taken seriously.
He was partners with Muffin Top Taylor.
He had a mother that brought him to the matches in a minivan van
and baked them cookies.
And he was part of that ridiculous...
He was the sidekick to the mascot.
How unimportant can you get?
And again, maybe we have to revisit this another time
and see who is not on this list here
because obviously Rocky Romero is partner,
not on the roster list.
What about from the outrunners, Truth Magnum?
I think the outriggers both got to go.
I can't remember what their name is,
but it's an embarrassing gimmick that, again, just appeals to the people
and want to laugh at wrestling and think it's silly.
And that's what you're trying to get away from
so that you can attempt to draw a more mainstream audience
with a professionally produced program.
So I guess you're saying goodbye to Turbo Floyd as well.
Truth and Turbo have been terminated.
Three more names, Jim.
Oh, good Lord.
Mr. May.
Ahem, Wardlow.
And he wasn't even on top of Mount Everest.
Think about that.
They ruined that opportunity.
Let me stop it real quick.
We've heard from a couple of people, I don't know why, they're upset.
Jim hasn't talked about Derby Climbing Everest.
Any comments you have about Darby Climbing Everest with an AEW flag?
Well, yeah, he's a fucking idiot.
Why do you want to put yourself through that?
Did you see it was just on the internet a couple days ago,
they had a traffic jam of people waiting to climb to the top of Mount Everest.
There was pictures of the lines of people.
I guess it was a good weather day, so everybody decided they'd go.
They had to wait in line where one group goes up and takes their picture on the top
and then they, the Sherpas take them wherever.
And the next group comes up.
And there were people lined up like a couple of hundred.
hundred of them up and down
this goddamn trail to this mountain.
I didn't know that it was so commercialized.
But the point is, this
empty-headed dip shit still has a job
that pays him millions of dollars a year
that he took off of him to go climb a fucking mountain
where there was a 1% chance he could die.
What a big benefits return that will be.
Back to Wardlow.
Yeah, we'll keep him if,
we can find him.
From the death riders,
Wheeler Yuda.
Oh boy, how quick can we get him out of here?
I'm so sick of that whole business.
And finally, Jim,
Will Osprey.
You got to keep him, even though I think he's an idiot,
because maybe he could be reformed or taught something.
And, you know, that's the problem is
when you go through who we've kept, who could be the guy, the champion, the top star of the company,
and actually perform at a professional level and draw some money.
And as I'm looking down this list, some people might say Darby Allen, he ain't going to be the guy.
Kyle is a few years away from that and he needs to learn some things.
MJF was there, but they diminished him.
Osprey.
That's, you know, that's the list of who could be the guy.
And on the other, the fired side, wait a minute, I've got three pages of fired now.
I will even, I'll even say who some people think could be the guy.
And I have told you what I think of them because I've found.
them. But on this list that I'm looking at,
uh, no, nobody ever said unless there's some spitball Bailey fans out there to think,
uh, there wasn't the guy on that page. I don't think so. How about, uh, the Drillistico
edited a hologram, uh, Jack Perry. We dumped his ass. I don't think anybody still believes he
He could be one of the guy, the guy, one of the pillars.
Again, there's, there's nobody on this page, either that anybody is even saying,
okay, let's go to the front page.
Moxley.
Well, that's already happening, and that's been the shits.
Kenny, that's already happened, and it ain't going to ever be as good as it once was.
It wasn't particularly that good.
Okada.
Can you imagine if he was the AEW world champion, how bad those.
matches would be since he would still not bother to try to fall down.
Adam Page, who probably will be the champion again, and that's going to suck.
That's the names on this list.
Jericho, Edge, they haven't got a guy.
If they fumble Osprey, he's the least damaged one yet.
If they fuck him up, they haven't got a guy to be.
be the guy.
Did I overlook any guys?
I don't think so. I mean, I'm sitting here trying to think who's not on this list.
I brought up Rocky Romero before. Just have to be other examples of guys, but
I mean, Gabe Kidd wasn't on the list, obviously. I'm not to say he's the guy, but he's new.
You know, I think they're top guys the last few years of an MJF, not so much lately.
Adam Page, Swarves Strickland, Osprey, you know, Moxley.
Well, we kept swerve, and I could mention swerve.
Swerves in that group, but he's already been there.
Yeah.
Osprey's the one that you could build because he has not held the world title.
Everyone else, everyone else has.
MJF has Adam Page has.
Omega has. Jericho has, Moxley has, swerve has.
Swerve.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't think this is going to depress me so much here at the end of it.
Well, but now, and the next thing we'll do,
and we're going to do this for the WWF2.
Oh, yeah.
But the next thing we'll do is we'll go through who we kept
and then we'll separate main event guys from guys on the card,
and we're going to have six guys on top and 28 on the bottom.
That's the problem.
All right.
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