Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 411: Jim Reviews Wrestlepalooza & All Out

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:34 It's going to be a long one today, folks. Hello again, friends. It already was. And you are our friends. Welcome to the special early morning edition. Welcome back for another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru. We've got a lot of wrestling to talk about. I'm your host of the great Brian last.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You know, every now and then, you hear a critique of us that says, you don't like wrestling. You just don't like wrestling. And it was yesterday I realized they were right. I don't like wrestling. But here he is the star of the show. We got a lot of wrestling to review, the leader of the cult of Cornett,
Starting point is 00:01:09 Mr. Jim Cornett. Well, thank you very much, Mr. Last. You are indeed a gentleman and a scholar to give me that big buildup, and you're the one that made me watch all a rassling. If it wasn't for you, I feel a duty. I feel a duty to show up and for work here on this program. It's your show, by the way,
Starting point is 00:01:31 just for the people who may want to leave a comment afterwards. But I feel a duty to watch this stuff and show up and talk about it. And now you're the first one to complain. I feel there's something fishy about that. Well, there was certainly a fishy smell. You brought it on yourself. And it came to premium live events this weekend. When you were just jumping right in it.
Starting point is 00:01:58 What about your organ playing, by the way? Your organing. Yes. You just went into another. It didn't have the bright pippy. It was just kind of bird-like. Now I know the extra little, now I know what exactly is your favorite.
Starting point is 00:02:15 You need the little uh-oh right there in the middle when you change gears up there. The little a-oh. No, I'm happy about one thing. Top-tom tilly-tale. No, it's, please make it stop. I just want the music. It just has to play once.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Are you slapping it now? It's not going to play. Yeah. It's not going to play that music, no matter how much you try at this point. Like the real Anoki, it won't sell. And you know what? I hear it now. It is arigato.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's just not pronounced the same way like they do in the stick song as Jace put it. But it's arugato. So after all this time and all this vehement denial that that's what the thing is saying now you just come out with that and just kill the whole deal. Again, he highlights. It sounds like tiger dough to me. Well, see, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:21 If it is Arigado, that's thank you, correct? That's what that means? According to Mr. Robato. So again, the little keychain is bigger than all the keys put together. This giant keychain of Antonio Inoki with a soundbox, it's him ripping off his robe yelling, thank you! I mean, that makes it even more ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You never hear anyone say, Antonio Onogi with his famous thank you, yell. Why don't you just sit there and contemplate the whole situation silently with Antonio there? While I just, again, let you know what I was trying to say a minute ago that it's raining here in Louisville. I'm proud to announce.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Right here on top of me, it is currently raining. We had, remember what I was complaining about the floods and the torrential rain? Well, we complained too much because we had the driest August on record for the city here, and I don't think it has rained to drop in the month of September. And suddenly today it started right now, it's supposed to rain this week. But you can listen to the rhythm of the falling rain out there if you like. but that's the one thing that I'm happy about. The whole town is soggy, and that's the thing it makes me happy.
Starting point is 00:04:51 How many people, Brian, have the lack of any responsibility, anything to do, any family obligations, work, whatever, to watch nine or ten hours of wrestling on the same day? Oh, that was the end of the question? I don't know. That was, yes. That's why it was the inflection of day with the question mark implied there at the end of it. How many, how can you do this? It's a lot, and nothing's as easy as just DVRing it at this point.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You have to be on different things, to watch different things, you have to pay different. I mean, you had to pay for the AEW event, no matter where you, even if you watch it on max, you just got like a $10 discount, but you still had to pay on max. And then Amazon Prime is. how I watched it, where it's the same amount as it would be on pay-per-view, which is not a thing anymore, but they still have a pay-per-view website. Yes. But you don't get any of the pre-show.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So it's a blessing or a curse, depending on how you see it. And then, WWE, it took me a while to, first of all, get over the frustration with just signing up for the ESPN app. It's not offered through my cable company yet. And then figuring out how to just get it without having to change anything else I have because I have Disney and Hulu for the kids. But I'm not changing on getting a different bundle for something I'm going to cancel as soon as I can.
Starting point is 00:06:22 See, I have it a little easier than you do, Brian, because if it was up to me and it wasn't on fucking television, I just say, fuck it, I can't get it. But I went to the director of Communications for Castle Cornett, Queen Stacy, and she figured out that the first good thing Spectrum's ever done for us, because we have Spectrum, we get the thing that we need to get. And I said, well, can you put it on the TV and a TV or she showed me how,
Starting point is 00:06:58 and we have to go to Disney. Because now Disney, and more on this in a second, Disney owns the thing that owns, Disney owns, the ESPN and their associated fucking businesses the sooner or later we're going to figure it out Howard Hughes is still alive and he's the guy at the top that owns everything. It's a lot of toenails.
Starting point is 00:07:24 So I have to, we had to go to the Disney app on the TV that she installed there and then you get the goddamn variety of things that are on the Disney app including the ESPN and all the other shit. So I still don't know what I'm watching. Besides now, I'm watching wrestling on Disney.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's the only way my brain can compute it. But we got the thing without having to sign up for it because it's Spectrum, as I said, but did you see the, just before we get back to the wrestling apps and streaming, they wanted this thing to make a ton of money or they wanted the WWE to make a ton of money for the new ESPN app and they've done all this big publicity and this big launch and everything
Starting point is 00:08:16 they're trying to get people to sign up for this. It's the same week. Disney is also ABC and because they canceled Jimmy Kimmel they lost like, what was it, $7 billion and goddamn people crashed the site trying to cancel it. So I think they're going to be at a negative net loss anyway because all that they did to try to pitch wrestle-palooza
Starting point is 00:08:42 to get people to sign up was the week they had their largest ever fuck you were canceling fucking moment. Even if that hadn't happened, I think clearly they were in a panic. They spent so much time on Smackdown on Friday trying to like do cheesy little segments with our truth to make sure people understood ESPN ESPN.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But still, it didn't really, like, when I ended up going, I was like, how do I do this? Like, what the fuck? And it took me a while. And it was a pain in the ass. But they were panicked, I think that, not even because of any political scandals, but just because of the idea, they introduced a new app. And they all of a sudden, they're off peacock. That was less than a month ago, right?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yes, yes. When they announced it, the app didn't exist yet. And again, you go to Disney. some people are just trying to go to the ESPN app. You go to Disney, you have to go to ESPN, then you have to go to ESPN Live, then you have to sign up for it if you don't already have it through one of your services,
Starting point is 00:09:43 and then they try to upsell you a bundle of Hulu and Disney Plus with ESPN, with this version of ESPN, which just so happens to be the most expensive one. If you look at it, it's like ESPN Basic or ESPN this, everything has a different thing. There's a Hulu Live versus Hulu Premium. Like, there's all these differences. And this is the most expensive.
Starting point is 00:10:03 one. So like I said, as soon as my cable company offers it, I'm canceling it through this, and signing up through that. And I think a whole lot of other people are going to do that. I'm dying to see what kind of numbers, if anything, will come at about this because I'm dying to see what percentage of the audience actually watched it. Well, here's the thing, not even talking about the cost. And I know some people, the modern generational, well, it's no problem to sign up and cancel it. It's just for the, average person. This is not like,
Starting point is 00:10:37 Jesus Christ, house on fire. Got to call a fire department. This is, I want to watch this wrestling show, but I can't fucking find it. Can't figure it out. They said ESPN, what's Disney got to do with it? What's love got to do with it? There's going to be,
Starting point is 00:10:53 and as you said, because they were trying to explain it in cheesy segments, they're still, think about when they just switched cable networks, Every so great often back in the day, there was confusion and et cetera. Now they're asking people to do an internet version of Twister. Now there's resentment that comes with the confusion. That's the issue.
Starting point is 00:11:18 There's resentment from various different ways, various different people. They could various different things. So you have resentment, confusion, cost. I'm dying to see what this is going to do. And now over on the other side of Lee, I can't get actual pay-per-view television anymore, but I'm like you. I got it on the Amazon Prime video service,
Starting point is 00:11:45 and they had plugged the zero hour, the pre-show. I think they were going to do some kind of tailgate party. If you bought it through Amazon, you got a canned pre-tape show in an empty building with Renee Moxley Good, Brian Danielson, and fucking RJ Reynolds. What's his name? They're good enough.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Sitting there talking and pitching the packages. But if you bought it or got it or watched it through some other service, you got the stream of their parking lot thing. But what, why is there different? Why are they showing different shit on different, goddamn platforms is what I'm asking you. I don't exactly know.
Starting point is 00:12:36 AEW ends up being a good deal. I mean, if you think about it, it ends up being for like $50, it's like $2 an hour. Endless fucking pay per views. You're like, man, I get my money's worth, and now I'm going to get my sleep's worth. Like, just they keep bringing it to you.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Well, let me ask you this, though, $2.00 if you're in the dentist chair, which is why we're doing this so quickly, the turnaround, because I'm about to be in less than 24 hours getting my teeth pulled. So I had to do all this in such a quick fashion. Would you want to pay a little more, just get it over with a little quicker? So both of these companies have their various issues, as we will talk about as we go further,
Starting point is 00:13:26 but just the, again, the WWE has never made more. money and it's putting on shows of a technical fashion. If you're talking about a television program, fucking incredible. But are they
Starting point is 00:13:43 almost, you know, holding the show's ransom at this point for people to be able to figure out where to go to pay the ransom to get their loved ones back so they can watch their wrestling? You know, and the other thing too is A.E.W. You buy an AEDW pay-A-W pay-per-view. That's what you get.
Starting point is 00:14:00 WWE, now seemingly no matter what streaming platform it's on, you get commercials in between the matches. Oh, yeah, three and a half minutes. It's got a little clock on a screen, so you can tell you how long you got to piss. Think about that. I mean, I don't think it's like that for every other program that goes to streaming.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's not like, all right, now. There's advertisements in the body of the premium live event where they're talking about the next pay-per-view or selling the merchandise or talking about their sponsor and then they go to in between every match a three and a half minute long commercial break where they show actual fucking commercials.
Starting point is 00:14:43 How many times did they show a commercial for smashing machine? I couldn't tell whether that was in the three and a half minute break or in the program content, but there was quite a number. Yeah, good point. Good point. But yeah, a lot of wrestling over the last few days. All right, it's going to be obviously a banner episode of the drive-thru, of course. A normal drive-thru next week when we have more time and there's less things happening and companies trying to put other companies out of business.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And also, I've hopefully successfully had my teeth pulled. And by the way, they're, see, that's the thing, brother, they're putting me under now. So this could be a landmark episode if things don't work out. You know, I've seen the headlines, guy under anesthesia and medical procedure. you know. It's not like we hear about people putting you over, so I guess under's the only other way to go. But Jim, of course, before you go under,
Starting point is 00:15:41 the brand new book coming to Cornett's collectibles at Jim Cornett.com, Heroes and Friends. Golly, gee, I'd almost forgotten, but since we are there, we will plug that quickly. Saturday, October 11th and noon eastern is the holiday sale premiere debut extravaganza, where that book will go on sale with my profiles and photographs
Starting point is 00:16:03 and reproduced historical memorabilia of 12 great superstars in professional wrestling, Bobby Heenan, the chic, Bruno Samertino, Ray Stevens, the Dream Machine, Paul Bearer, Vader, Boo Bradley, Sputnik Monroe, Lance Russell, Ron Wright, and Pat Malone the Green Shadow, with never before revealed behind the scenes, meanderings, shall we say, and incredible illustration. full-color photography, except for the people who are in black or white. And I mentioned it on the previous program, Brian.
Starting point is 00:16:43 The 10-20-40 sale on action figures, all remaining Jim Cornett action figures, $10 off, all the Midnight Express and Heavenly Bodies tag team sets, $20 off, and the Big Daddy, the Grand Pappy, the Midnight Express four-pack collector set, with book and photo and certificate of authenticity, $40 off for the holiday season, and some more things that I'm going to be talking about next week, both new and on sale at Jimcornett.com Saturday, October 11th.
Starting point is 00:17:22 All right, well, why don't we talk about... You sound thrilled. Why don't we talk about Saturday, September 20th? Yeah. Now I'm kind of sour. You know, knowing that wrestling starts early that day, I mean, I'm assuming, you watched a lot of it live just knowing that we had to turn it around and do it today, but knowing it starts at like three, you know, I don't know, it's just a week, and you adjust
Starting point is 00:17:45 your day differently when the event starts in the middle of the day as opposed to, you know, seven or eight o'clock. Well, you know, many people I understand take days off from work, and, but I'm always, as you are, you know, running the empire in some way, shape, or form, but I can't sleep late anymore. So I was still up out of bed at 7 o'clock on Saturday morning. So there was paperwork I had to do and things that I had to accomplish around the house, but it wasn't so much the idea it was starting early because I'd rather start early and get it over with because I can't stay up until fucking 11 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It just said I wasn't looking forward to the length of both programs and then turning around the very next mown and having to discuss it for at length again but that's our job as reporters. We've got to we're not we're not really reporters
Starting point is 00:18:47 we don't talk about the news when it breaks we then use our expertise to critique it and discuss it in a learned fashion after the fact of course it's really your expertise it's my foolishness
Starting point is 00:19:02 well some of the tom foolery comes from you but every once in a while i can i can fool with tom but at three o'clock you're right i was going to watch the a ewe program because at least i'm you know i'm wasting time if i'm not watching something that's going on right at least we have the power of pause so i can go and relieve myself during the various issues and i start watching that thing, but by 6 o'clock, I know that the WWE show is going to start a 7, and I've got to eat something. I didn't want to fucking, like Morty Seinfeld force feed myself a fucking steak at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So I stop watching the AEW show at 6 o'clock so that I have time to eat something real quick, because I'm not going to not watch Sina and Lesnar live at 7 clock for whatever time foolery is still happening in AEW. And then by the time I get into the WW show, I don't want to leave that because at least nobody's being set on fire. But then by the time that I see the mixed tag, which is what I was really there for, it's fucking going on 10 o'clock and daddy needs to go to bed. So then I got up this morning
Starting point is 00:20:29 Once again, Cody Rhodes is an afterthought. Well, I'm sorry, but the mixed tag, we'll talk about it, should have gone on last. It's what everybody wanted to see. And so then I got up this morning and caught up on everything else. Yeah. Well, why don't we start with what started at 3 p.m.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Of course, we didn't have access to whatever zero hour there was on Amazon Prime, but hey W All Out 2025 from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Well, they had a big crowd, the big, the big set covered some of the big seats that they didn't big sell, but they still had a big crowd. Did we hear, did they have 12 or 13,000, I believe? I could check. It was what they were expecting.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, it looked good. Here's the thing now what it is, is it's a, did you notice by the match order, it's a battle? of the stars with seniority and pull as to how early you get to go on. Because they started with Edge and Christian. And you know Edge and Christian, you're like, my God, we're in Toronto. It's our first time back as a team. We're going to go out and have a tag team wrestling match with these guys. We can't let them burn the fucking people out and do everything and more that we're still physically capable of doing.
Starting point is 00:21:58 and with weapons. So put us on first, Tony. It'll be a great way to start to show. Perfect. Actually, it was perfect. That was a perfect way to get them in there, get them, they were over as the hometown heroes, their legitimate stars,
Starting point is 00:22:19 get them the maximum pop they can, let those people have fun there. And then they have a tag team match and they get to fuck out of there before people begin being set on fucking fire. But then... To be fair, that was in the back. Not in front of the fans.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Well, no, just in front of the fans, people are only sliced open from asshole to appetite and stuffed into fucking bags. Yes. Or thrown through furniture. I think that's that. Or flung off the fucking balcony. And then,
Starting point is 00:22:55 of course, MJF in the past has been the master of that. Because if you notice, except for when it was a world title match and it was going to, him and Danielson, him and punk, it was going to be the best thing they'd see and it was going to be memorable. He'd be on first so he could have a match with some psychology with a crowd that hasn't been seen, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:20 several attempted murders and people being bleached and whatever. And then there's that. the Hurt syndicate, who they've also got some pull and their stars. And we're going to go out here and fucking halfway wrestle. And we don't want to be out there after the fucking trampoline cowboys get started. So now the only match of the first four or five that was really any kind of a stinker because it involved stars that halfway knew what they were doing, even with this shitty booking, was Kingston, who they had to stick in the middle because they could
Starting point is 00:23:57 and put that on later, or everybody knew that. But it's now, it's a brawl amongst the top guys to see who can get out of there before the people have seen every kind of goddamn damage that can be done to a human body.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Anyhow, let's start with Edge and Christian and FTR. Is it the first time they have been a team in Toronto in 24 years? When did Christian leave for T&A? For T&A? For T&A, yes. Was that 2005, 2006, 2007, somewhere in there? Did they, were they burying him at that point?
Starting point is 00:24:44 They split him up. They were mad at each other. 24 years seems long. Well, they weren't together when he left. He was doing stuff with Tyson Tomko at that point in time. It was actually the most entertaining I found him in WWE, and then he was gone and he got a big push in. T&A as a world champion.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And so did Tomko, and he was gone. Well, nevertheless, point being, it's the first time in 24 years, and that does both make it historic and make them sound even older than I thought they were. But what was the deal? Tell me before we get to the match, what was the deal where they were walking into the arena,
Starting point is 00:25:26 Edge and Christian? and they're great i got that they were a famous hockey player was there and said hello and he got a little bit of a pop from the people but then who was the weird they come up on a weird guy wearing glasses and they called him bubbles and and he they're talking back and forth to i don't know what the fuck he's saying i'm the gentleman is challenged in some fashion. No, no, not bubbles, no. And then, no, and then they look in the other way, and they, and I swear God, it was the same guy, right? But he now he's dressed in a costume as the green bastard. Is this some kind of goddamn goofy attitude era of angle that they did and they found
Starting point is 00:26:24 this guy 30 years later? And what, who, how, what the fuck? is this? Bubbles is a character played by that guy who looks remarkably the same as he looked 15 years ago on the trailer park boys, which is one of the funniest comedies of all time. And it's Canadian. So it's a
Starting point is 00:26:43 popular Canadian comedy series, I guess is the word I should add there, but it's a great series at least when Jim Leahy was there. And Bubbles on the show at one point loves wrestling so they set up a little makeshift ring in the trailer park and he becomes the green bastard.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Oh, Christ. Christ, Christ, Christ on a cracker. On a cracker. Well, so they got some advice, I guess, from the green bastard. And then they played the music and in here came edge. By the way, not the only green bastard in AEW. No, a good, good catch there.
Starting point is 00:27:24 We should be specific. of the green bastard that is bubbles with a mask on. But they played the music, here comes edge, and I was like great pop and great entrance, and they've just looked like idiots doing scripted verbiage with some fellow. But they sang his song. And it wasn't as enthusiastic at first,
Starting point is 00:27:52 but then it picked up at the end. At one point, it was so passionate. I was like, what the hell is going on? It's like dry and, uh, uh, like this feels like almost they're being forced to do this. Well, but remember, they're in Canada. So that kind of for a lot of Canadian folks, that's being just wacky, fucking demonstrative,
Starting point is 00:28:13 like crazy on acid on the streets of San Francisco. If you're actually singing with a loud voice in public. I like it better when you didn't feel forced to sing at wrestling. I like it better when you get your, standing the back and you will sing you will sing your hearts out oh my god dance in some places you got to dance too if you go to France you got to dance
Starting point is 00:28:36 you're going to dance in France you little bastards and then of course they played Cage's music and the people chanted he's my asshole because earlier when they were walking in the back with the bubbles and the and the cock hockey guy,
Starting point is 00:28:57 bubbles in the hockey guy, sounds like a pilot from the 70s. The edge said, well, he may be an asshole, but he's my asshole. And so they're, but they're over the people want to see him. It's the hometown.
Starting point is 00:29:11 FTR music, my old booing. I think they've completely just rung whatever interest that people had at one time in these poor fellows out of it. And Stokely was wearing some kind of stylish hazmat suit. I don't know what that.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I thought maybe they were going to fucking fill him up with helium and float him like a blimp over the fucking ring. But did you hear Tony Chivani's opening comment at or near the bell? I'm not sure. I mean, Tony Chivani had various stupid comments about how great it was or how happy he was to be there, how this is what AEW is all about. They ring the bell,
Starting point is 00:30:00 and they're squaring off, and Tony said, I don't know if we've ever called a match with so much, and he can't think of the word, and there's dead air, and then sock face, jumped in and started talking to Danielson. Like, Brian, what do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:30:20 He couldn't come up with him. So much emotion, so much inmate. So much God damn rivalry and passion behind whatever the nose So much Somehow
Starting point is 00:30:34 the commentary got worse with Danielson And part of the problem too now is Danielson Because obviously He knows what the booking is Danielson's screaming things
Starting point is 00:30:45 And then when he stops No one else has that energy Not the crowd or Excalibur He's just like This is amazing I can't believe it Tony Chivani What do you think about
Starting point is 00:30:56 They just move on. Everyone has a different energy and it's not working. Tony, at his age, if he tried that energy, he'd have a stroke. And sock face can't just yell back at him, but then it's just constant screaming. And Danielson, yes, he's so excited, but also he doesn't do sound bites. He does analyses that sometimes take a while. And then they laugh. Whenever anything bad happens, especially in front of them, you hear them laugh.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And then one laugh and gets the other one to laugh. So now the commentators are laughing at something that really should hurt. The whole thing is a mess. The whole thing is a mess. Well, but having said that now, let's get back to the match because we're not, the whole thing, the match was not a mess. The mess match matches come later, but they worked a smart match because FTR know to how to have a tag team match and they were the ping pong balls for Christian and Edge who,
Starting point is 00:31:55 know how to have a match and also are, you know, obviously picking their spots at their age and stage of the game. And Cash and Edge did a great wrestling spot. Dax was ping ponging for the guys. At one point, FTR did a blind tag to cut Christian off, but
Starting point is 00:32:14 if anybody wants to go back and look at at an example of how you actually could and should do a blind tag, but it's too small. The fans didn't see it. They were bunched up in the corner when he slapped him. They should have gone, reached behind hand to hand, where the fans could see it, then they would have got it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 But the blind tag was too small. They got some heat on Christian and worked switches around the fact that they were keeping Christian in a chin lock because they needed to conserve energy. And then, boom, Christian foiled Cash's splash and got the hot tag and Edge made a nice comeback. Did a little,
Starting point is 00:33:00 You Can't See Me, which woke the fans up. And then the fans started chanting, Sina, Sina, like, oh. But they came to see Edge and Christian do stuff. They didn't really come to see this hot match or this, or FTR get beat up or whatever when FTR's getting the heat, they were just kind of like waiting for Edge and Christian to do something. And then finally FTR hit their suplex splash combination and got a two count. Boom.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And Edge and Christian foiled the shatter machine and Edge had a cover and the referee goes down and Stokely pulls a referee to the floor, which again has been, done a lot here in modern times, but let's not nitpick. But then suddenly the music plays. And it's Beth Phoenix. And she runs down the fucking entrance way and Spears Stokely on the floor. And the people are, yeah, holy shit. And Edge Spears, Dax, boom, and covers him one-two-two-count.
Starting point is 00:34:20 What the fuck? Then Beth carried Stokely out of the arena, and the match continues. Christian got power bombed on the announced desk. Then Edge got hit with the ring bell. And then after they hit him with the ring bell, they gave him a spike pile driver. One, two, two count. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:51 They had it. They had it and they won't stop. Edge stopped both FTR, but then just ran into a shatter machine to count. Oh, for God's sake. Then they did a second shatter machine to Edge, but no cover. There was an awkward moment where I can only presume something, was supposed to happen because cash then
Starting point is 00:35:27 just suddenly ran over to be tripped by Christian all the way across the ring and Edge speared cash one, two, three. Or Dax ran over to be I don't know what to fuck.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But they had it. They'd done all their false finishes. They'd done this shit, the big suplex splash, blah, blah, blah. Here comes Beth. Spears fucking Stokely Edge hits his spear The people were there
Starting point is 00:35:59 To count And then they go through all this shit And it was awkward to begin with But they can't quit But it was close to a tag team wrestling match For AW, didn't you think? I thought it was going to be a great match Thinking about in advance
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't think it was great But it was really good and it was a fine opener, up until, kind of up until the finish, maybe a little bit before the finish, but up until the finish, and then, to me, it just went off the rails.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah. Especially in front of that crowd in Toronto. Who at times was the quietest Toronto crowd I've ever heard. Well, later on, you could take a nap every once in a while in the middle of a match because they were waiting to see
Starting point is 00:36:48 what looked like somebody got hurt. because that's what gets the biggest, not somebody winning or somebody, you know, that we love, but the biggest reactions come from, that look like somebody got hurt. But anyway, nevertheless, we're not done. No, it's only the opening match on a fuck of pay-per-view. We've got to have an angle here.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So suddenly they play more music. and here comes old mama Wayne, wheeling Nick Plain out in a wheelchair on the stage. And this distraction led to FTR to be able to jump Edge and Christian from behind and Pip Sabian to come from somewhere and handcuff edge to the ropes. While FTR spike pile drive, Christian Cage. But here comes Beth back out, trying to get edge loose from the
Starting point is 00:37:50 goddamn deal. And FTR starts menacing her, like standing over her, so she looks at edge and tells him, I love you, and kisses him and then turns around and starts swinging away at FTR.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And now we're, you know, but okay, Dusty had his moments where he would recreate scenes from John Wayne movies too. So, and she starts swinging at FTR, but they grab her and to contain her. So she's not a danger to herself or others. They give her a spike pile driver. And in FTR leaves and the doctor is checking on Beth.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And nobody was getting edge loose until finally they got the bolt cutters. And I'm not sure where Christian went and all of that. Are you? Do you remember? Well, he was the first one laid out Well, but nobody ever stays laid out for long I don't know I hadn't thought of it actually
Starting point is 00:38:55 I hate to say it, I hadn't thought of where did Christian go I'm trying to look at my notes what happened to him They were just they beat him up some kind of way And threw him out well he's not the most courageous Son of a Gun in the world anyway Yeah, I don't know what I'm taking a sip I thought it was just awkward pause because it was kind of deserved because of this post-match.
Starting point is 00:39:20 The whole thing where Beth has music and she runs out there and it's just, you know, it's just Beth, because obviously you can't call her Beth Phoenix. WWE owns that. And she comes out there. Well, I just called her Beth Phoenix because... Well, you can. I knew her back when.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But then, you know, now you have girls beating up guys on both shows and now you have girls getting spike pile drivers on the show. It seems like a big jump. It seems like a bit much, especially to heat up this. I don't think the FTR heel run right now is really clicking with people, despite them trying to heat it up. I don't think it's working or clicking it all. And I think the fans kind of, and we've seen it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I mean, they set it up into being part of their thing, but the fans are almost like mocking them. And it's a weird way of booking top heels of any of this is intentional. but I was hoping this would end tonight, but maybe I was naive thinking that, but I was hoping everyone would kind of move on after tonight. Well, but now here's the thing is that I like Beth Phoenix,
Starting point is 00:40:32 and I think that she's a good talent that I don't know that she's wanting or whether this was a one-time thing or setting up some kind of mixed tag or, you know, she's not getting back into business, whatever the fuck. But they should have had around there to confront Stokely before Edge beat him up. Well, the point being,
Starting point is 00:40:57 that's what I'm saying is they picked this time to do that maybe because it was in Toronto and it just because, you know, they were, they live in Asheville, North Carolina, though. But they've done it the same week as the biggest mixed tag team match and the biggest husband and wife reunion in fun and wrestling history.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And so it comes off, even though Edge and Beth are both stars and talents, it comes off again. Like maybe it's just their rotten timing. Maybe they plan to do it this time all along, but it comes off like, oh, well, we got a fucking couple rather than a big deal.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And for it to mean really anything, besides a pop for the people in the building in Toronto, the Beth comes out and carries Stokely off and gets pile driven is if in any way Stokely had any fucking heat. And that's the, the problem is this just comes off like they're copying what the big company is doing. And when's the last time that the WWE made a particularly big
Starting point is 00:42:13 deal about a husband and wife combination since triple H and Stephanie or whatever. So it just had to be this time. It makes it look like herds WCW with ding-dongs trying to copy Vince's, you know, 80s ice cream bar era. But again, they had Beth Phoenix come out there to make the big save. And then the debut in AEW, I guess, first appearance in AEW, and then immediately she gets laid out so I don't know about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. Unless she's just not, it was a cameo. Whatever. Okay. Eddie Kingston returns after over a year. Bless his little pepig and heart. He got a nice pop.
Starting point is 00:43:07 He got some Eddie chance. Remember when they announced this match, why would they do this? why would they not only have Eddie Kingston and his return booked against Big Bill, not only for the result, really, but for the match. And it was everything that somebody,
Starting point is 00:43:32 a baby face return shouldn't be. He got the teetotal shit beat out of him the whole time. He's had 16 months to diet and train, and I don't, is his belly a little smaller than it was, Brian, but is he a little paler to make up for it? I thought he looked good when he had the shirt on, when he had the Claudio sucks egg shirt, I'm like, oh, he looks like he's lost weight,
Starting point is 00:43:57 and then when he took the shirt off, I'm like, well, you know, maybe. I can't really tell. Well, and the thing is, this is... The fans are really happy to see him, though. He's the guy, he's one of these guys the fans chose, and it never, the push never went to the place the fans wanted it to go. And that's why this was the wrong opponent. The people wanted to see Eddie Kingston come back after this horrific injury,
Starting point is 00:44:20 do his shit against somebody that will give him a little workout, and win in eight or ten minutes so they can feel good. And you're preparing for the future. Because if you do that two or three times over the period of a month or two, then Big Bill could have come out and said, why is Eddie Kingston getting all this time and all he does is beat these fucking nobodies? He wouldn't last five minutes with me.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Kings to come out, you want to bet? And here we got something. But instead, his first time back in a year and a half you have a giant that makes him look even more physically like shit, beat the shit out of him over and over, and the goddamn and sell nothing. practically, which he shouldn't because he's a giant. But then they did the deal where in the backhand is Kingston's finish, right?
Starting point is 00:45:26 The spinning backhand, which again is stupid, and you can see he's got his hand open. This part, yeah. But Big Bill foiled the backhand and barely hit above a slam on Kingston. Everyone, Kingston was making a, he made a comeback. It wasn't a good comeback, but he made a comeback. back. And then Big Bill stopped him again, barely got the Bubba slam. He was putting him like two feet off the ground because he got their balance off. And then another one that wasn't much better. And it made it dull because once Kingston made his comeback, they should have just gone. But now he
Starting point is 00:46:06 stopped him again. Then Kingston hits a DDT and hit his back fist that should have have been it again it should have been it one count what the fuck so then kingston runs into a boot but big bill misses a charge in the corner kingston schoolboys him and gets a two count and then kingston gets up and his big bill is still halfway down on his knees he swung the back fist and missed it and tony shivani said oh he missed it And I think even Excalibur said glancing blow and Big Bill just crumpled and he covered him one, two, three. And then they jumped in saying, oh, I guess he hit him a glancing blow on the temple.
Starting point is 00:47:02 God damn it. I've never seen a guy win a match and it made him look more like shit. You know, the first back fist, boom, down one, two, three. three, that's the finish, that's his finish, comes out of nowhere if they'd have done that. It'd have been all right, but the fucking whiffing the goddamn knockout blow on a seven-foot man put it over the top of the bottom. I'm sorry, go ahead. You know, when he first came out there, I'm like, yeah, Eddie Kingston, everyone's into him. Good to see him back. First thing he did, I think, was like laying a chop. And I'm like, oh, no,
Starting point is 00:47:42 I forgot about what he's into, which is like his tribute to all Japan in the 90s. And I didn't think this was very good. And then the finish was pretty embarrassing. I mean, the fact that he missed it, and then they just still went to the finish, they still went to the pin. It looks so bad. But do you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:05 They just rushed everything. All they had to do was bring Kingston back and show the people, but he was still able to walk with all of his fucking surgeries and have him beat somebody with his back fist. and they'd been happy. And it also reminds people about his back fist that he hasn't done in a year and a fucking half. And then do it again two or three weeks later.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And maybe even again, go crazy. Just to let people know and remind them. And then you have the big fucking giant have the issue if you want to. Because then you've established something instead of bringing the guy, a baby face back, so that he can get the shit kicked out of him and then whiff is finish
Starting point is 00:48:51 and then get the shit kicked out of him by Brian Keith and old Bill until the hook sign came out to no reaction whatsoever. Did you hear the reaction when they hit the music and played the, or flash the light? No reaction.
Starting point is 00:49:11 No, I didn't hear the reaction. That's the point. And they, the giant, the giant, bails from the child hook and they beat up Brian Keith and Kingston hugs hook. So, you know, they live in the same tenement in New York, I understand. Over there in, where was it that Brooklyn Heights where Patty's only seen the sights? That's probably where they live. A hot dog makes her lose control? Yes. Well, one of these hot dogs, looks like Kingston ate all the hot dogs
Starting point is 00:49:50 that's uh that's not nice and that's your review of the Eddie Kingston big bill match yes it was all right now after we got that interlude out of the way the next star that wanted to get on early and get the fuck out of there before anybody got set on fire was MJF so now we get the table and thumb tax match between MJF and Mark Briscoe. I mean, any long-time listener of the program
Starting point is 00:50:29 will know that this is, in my opinion, the stupidest thing that they've ever done in wrestling is the thumb tax, which is just ridiculous and just low rent and stupid and silly and childish and juvenile, all the other synonyms that might apply to those words. But if you've got Moxley, I mean, he can do that as well as he can do anything else.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Moxley's the shits in the ring as a professional wrestler as a worker, both psychology and physically. He's suited for the garbage shit. But both of these guys are two of the better in-ring performers on the roster in this company. Mark Briscoe, because he can have good matches with people that know how to work, He just has the, he's fallen into the habit of doing the hardcore stuff because they think, because he came from Sandy Fork and Ring of Honor, that type of thing, that that's all he can do.
Starting point is 00:51:39 He can actually have matches with people that can work. He just doesn't get too often. But MJF, as we've seen, psychology-wise, can put a main event match together. He's a smart kid. So to have both of them tied up in something that any garbage wrestler can do, it just makes the show look more indie and outlaw and mud show. You could have a good match with these guys if you didn't ruin the ring by dumping two buckets of thumbtacks in it before the match starts. And still, MJF understood and he tried to milk the idea of them falling and rolling around in the tax and, et cetera, and get as much mileage out of it as possible.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But again, you know that Mark Briscoe, because he's not going to say no when people ask him to do something or paying him this much money. and he's done it for far less, and MJF at some point has to goddamn humor this fucking special fellow that he works for and pays him all that money and indulge him in his
Starting point is 00:53:10 indie-minded, goddamn outlaw wrestling fantasies. So we end up with this. And you know again i don't it's so embarrassing two of them and i can i made notes on and by the way mjf was smart enough to wear big
Starting point is 00:53:34 old thick white gloves even though they got both got their shirts torn off and were rolling around in the shit at least mjf had the gloves on but i've made notes but why mjf put tacks in briscoe's mouth and backdropped him in the tax and then MJF took a backdrop in the tax and then a spine buster in the tax and then I wrote Briscoe hit a dive and pulled a table out and got a chair broke two tables more bumps into tax then they pulled out a chair covered in tax then MJF tombstoneed him on the chair with the tax
Starting point is 00:54:20 two count and then he pulled out another table and poured two bags of tax on the table and they had a fight on the top which was somewhat lengthy and contrived until briscoe elbow dropped MJF through the table and after he came off the top rope with an elbow drop to put MJF through the table that was covered with tax he didn't cover him he went up to the top again and dropped another elbow drop on him. And then he picked him up. God damn. And he picked him up and hit a J. Driller in honor of his brother on the corpse,
Starting point is 00:55:09 the lifeless corpse of what was once MJF, one, two, three, surprisingly enough. It just, I know there's, getting paid a lot of money. But at some point you would think that somebody would be able to say to Tony, just know
Starting point is 00:55:33 what the fuck is the matter with you? Just because we did this shit at one point when we had to work in fucking wreck centers doesn't mean that we can actually do this shit for real.
Starting point is 00:55:50 We don't have to do this like the other clowns that you pay a lot of money too. We can do the shit. We're supposed to be doing. Anyway, low rent, one of both guys' worst matches ever because of the stupidity factor,
Starting point is 00:56:07 even though MJF did try to put some logic in it. But I mean, tell me what I missed about this masterpiece. Again, not my favorite kind of match. At first, I thought MJF was going to tease the whole match that he would take a bump and not take any until the very end.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And then that would be the big bump in the tax and then here's your finish boom. But obviously they were going for the gore aspect. Well, minimal gore compared to other things on the show now that I think about it. Well, but no, but then you've got the visual of the Thumbtack Stiggin and Briscoe's bald head and in both of their backs and it's so stupid. And Briscoe gets the win. It's jackass.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's jackass. And MJF loses. I don't know if that hurts him. I don't know if anything hurts them or helps them right now. No. But, you know, Briscoe who lost nonstop, got a big win to end the feud, hopefully, thankfully, better be. And they teased already, I don't know, did you want to talk about the promo or did you see the promo that he did later on? Well, let me just say that I, to respond to what you said, no, it's about time Mark Briscoe wins a big one.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It was, it, not about time. It's been a long, long pastime. I'm not disputing the finish. I'm disputing the, just the guy biting a head off a fucking chicken level match they had to have to get there because these people's minds are in the indie gutter. But the promo, tell me what you're saying here. They did a promo with the other members of the conglomeration. I think it was Willow Nightingale.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Harley Cameron, Roderick Strong, Kyle O'Reilly, and who? There was another person. I can guarantee you I didn't see it. And hologram, and the whole time Kyle's on the phone, and Mark Briscoe's giving a big fired-up promo that the conglomeration is back, he's got his big win, Harley Cameron really hamming it up. And then they reveal that the friend that they asked to be part of the big match against the Don Callas family on Wednesday, his answer was,
Starting point is 00:58:19 whatever. So they're teasing the big comeback of your favorite wrestler of 2019, Orange Cassidy. Yeah, thankfully, I had forgotten about him. I thought he just went away by popular demand. They're bringing back all the greatest hits of the first year. They're trying to do it everything they can to get back all the people that, when they still had a spirit, they were there.
Starting point is 00:58:46 But no, but the thing is, is the people they had in the, first year is the reason why they lost half of the people that they had at the first year until now because the people they didn't like those people not their longing to see them come back they want fewer of them not more anyhow so then we were ready for the six-man tag team match with the hurt syndicate and ricochet and the the Drek twins, Bishop Kahn and Tia Leone. And I don't mind Bishop Kahn now. Tia Leone is hopeless, but I don't mind Bishop Kahn.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Do you see what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. Do you agree with me? Did you pay enough attention to notice that Bishop Kahn can actually do some shit, whereas Leone is a lost ball in high weeds? I mean, I've seen them. before. I'm not really surprised by what any of them can do or not do.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Well, I just, they kept and it could be under the pretext of, well, you're the big guy, so we want you to stay out and you only come in every once in a while, but I think they kept him after Wednesday night. They kept old Tia Leone out on the apron as much as possible. But Bishop Kahn can move around.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And MVP looked good. they MVP did more wrestling again than normal because he's not only a legitimate ex- wrestler but also a baby-face manager so he's not going to work like the manager that was the ricochet spot where they kept trying to tease MVP wanting ricochet and ricochet not wanting any of it and also because he's the little fellow in this thing so that was the uh the point of the match, but they put together, they put together a match that was very well laid out, I thought. It's just that the heel team is too green and doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. You know, ricochet bounces for the big guys, and so does Bishop Khan. And at one point, MVP was beating up ricochet and his two partners, were just standing on the floor leaning on the apron watching it.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And I'm like, what the fuck? I don't know if they were lost or trying to figure out what their next spot was. But then when the heels stopped MVP and started working his bad leg, the fans didn't want to see MVP sell, but the heels aren't any good of getting heat. That's where, again, as I said, they'd laid out a good match, but they did an awkward spot, awkward,
Starting point is 01:01:52 not an awkward spot, but an awkward rendition of a spot on the floor to prevent the tag, and then MVP just tagged Lashley. The heels couldn't set it up. They didn't have it. And then Lashley made a comeback and killed Rickashay,
Starting point is 01:02:10 and Leone came in with the save, and he and Lashley just looked at each other and then turned away and started doing different shit. I'm like, Jesus, Christ, what in the world is supposed to be happening? So then Shelton threw ricochet everywhere, and then he threw Bishop Con everywhere, and then he germined both of them, got a big pop, and Lashley hit the spear on a couple of them. And MVP and one of the other guys was slugging it out, and I'm like, they need to go. It's good now,
Starting point is 01:02:49 but it seems like everybody just, you know, has to hang on a little longer. T. Leone hit Lashley with a chair and everybody took a big bump on the floor and Rick O'Shea did a dive and the referee was Aubrey Ed so she wasn't counting or doing anything so standing there you know, with her could being chewed.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And then the big Samoan Leone took out Shelton and Lashley, but Rickashay and Bishop beat up MVP. And some way or another, I don't, I forgot, I don't think I've written down the finish here. I guess I didn't write it down. I wrote down, Khan needs to be a single or find new partner, Leone is rotten and has the charisma of mud. I think it's Leon.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Oh, they beat, that's what they beat MVP there somehow with something. I don't know. I was going to say it's a weird situation when MVP is to Ricky Morton of the team, like the guy doing all the selling and who needs the tag. It's a weird. Yes. It's a weird thing. Obviously, the Hurt syndicate want to work with these guys,
Starting point is 01:04:13 and they're going to try to make these guys to the best of their ability. And it was a, like you said, a well-laid out match. yes unfortunately the heels laid an egg yeah i mean again you know again there's no other tag teams of grown men in this company that wouldn't be a joke to put in the ring with lashly and benjamin and the people love lashley and benjamin but so the the the muggin manager has to come in to drop the fall to try to get somebody over Anywho, you know what was next, don't you, Brian? I don't remember, actually.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It was Mercedes Moon versus Reho. I remember. Did I lose you? Now, see, at some point, I got to breathe, but I want to see how long I could do that. That's pretty goddamn amazing, wasn't it? I'm going to, I'm a little dizzy. I don't know what just happened. all right
Starting point is 01:05:34 anyway oh quit that's he's saying no thank you that's what he's saying no he's saying no so what in the world
Starting point is 01:05:50 was the Mercedes now think she's the female flare and in no way shape or form is she but instead of coming out with eight model, she comes out with eight male twinks from some type of online service
Starting point is 01:06:10 wearing her women's title belts from the various outlaw promotions. That was interesting. This was in no way a serious segment deserving of our attention and or potential critique of or even making fun of. Is it? Brian, at this point, have we not determined that there's no sense and just going over the same old shit with this thing. I think people would love to hear you break this down. I mean, obviously it's a evenly
Starting point is 01:06:44 matchup. The women were about the same size, it seemed like. Yeah. The tail of the tape. Anything you want to say at all about this? Well, I'll tell you what I can say. They gave it fucking 15 minutes plus entrances on what's
Starting point is 01:07:04 supposed to be a legitimate professional broadcast. I can say that. I can say that again, the joke is long passed over. Now that Kenny's not even here all the time, that his
Starting point is 01:07:21 fascination with these low-level outlaw apartment wrestling girl groups and the reason why that it is so embarrassing that a television wrestling promotion for the past five years in any country has pulled talent,
Starting point is 01:07:45 and I use that in quotation marks, from these fringe, do it yourself. Hey, kids, let's put on a show organizations in Japan just to satisfy him. and still in, they're six years in and they have Rio as a baby face that should actually on a major
Starting point is 01:08:14 event challenge even though Mercedes is the shits too, she's some kind of goddamn star and she's making millions of dollars. Isn't that like a record company signing up Taylor Swift
Starting point is 01:08:33 and having her put out a duet album with his brother-in-law? It's like a record company signing a band and saying, you know what, we're going to eat the advance and give you a whole bunch of more money. Do what you want. I just...
Starting point is 01:08:47 So no, I can't sit there and watch this. Like, I've been in wrestling for 50 fucking years, like something seriously professional is being present. presented to me, I cannot act this way. I cannot dignify this at this point. When they get serious with Mercedes and find somebody to kick her ass, take a few of those belts away, I might watch
Starting point is 01:09:17 that, but no, serious. Again, Mercedes grabbed the referee and distracted her long enough to rake Rihos eyes and she hit a big move on O'Reo. that looked good Mercedes did. Picked her up and dropped her boom on her knees, didn't cover her, picked her up and hit her shitty finish where they start out with the girl on her back
Starting point is 01:09:45 and she turns around and they fall in a heap. One, two, three. And I can't believe she actually did a good looking move and then wasted it. And that was the whole idea of, that's again, I know they're not smart enough, but I would think there's people there that could explain it to them if they were willing to listen.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Why did she rake the baby face's eyes, Brian, in that situation when the baby face was about to beat her and she grabbed the referee to distract her and raked the baby face's eyes where he couldn't see it? Why did she do that? To get an advantage over the baby face? Yeah, because she was desperate. And she knew right then she had to cheat and she didn't want to get caught cheating. That's a good spot.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And the reason why she was desperate was because she knew and wanted the fans to know in the working universe that she was beaten if she didn't do something desperate and cheat because that gives the baby face the out when the baby face is about to get fucked. And then once you rake the eyes and that's the fucking difference maker, and then you grab the opponent and hit them with the goddamn big move, if you don't cover them on that, then your goddamn clock resets. Now you're no longer desperate.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Now the baby face no longer has a goddamn out, because now you just pick the baby face up and fucking give them another move. now you're in control and the baby face they're out expired because it was all the momentum of what people are seeing and how they subliminally react to it now you just made it flat because you're stupid that's what I thought about that match what did you think big win for Mercedes Monet
Starting point is 01:11:56 and her band of twink title holders another victory she does not not lose the belt. And she, Swami's barking, because obviously it was a dog of a match, ladies and gentlemen. But Reho just returned, she has lost. We'll see if she disappears and maybe Harkarushita or some other challenger from the Kenny Omega Rolodex can show up and challenge Mercedes-Mone. This has been Brian Lasted Swami for Jim didn't like it news.
Starting point is 01:12:37 All right, you know what that means? The Rihom match is over. Jim, there was more all out. Please, please stand up and in single file, calmly leave the auditorium. No, there was more. There was plenty more. Next up was for the unified title, as opposed to any of the other titles. This was a three-way between mascara, Dorito, Oblada, and our boy Take.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And I'm sorry. again. We got a long road to ho here, as Mama Cornett used to say. You got the laziest wrestler in the world. You got a 160-pound generic masked guy. And again, poor take who had all the potential in the world and was the best athlete and the cheapest salary of all of the Japanese imports.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And he just flounders around and stares at people. he's in a heel group that he is mad at the other guy in the same heel group or he stares at him a lot. He never speaks, but his manager never really speaks for him. He just stands around in the assemblage of various guys. So why do we care? And this title is not in any way. gives a shit. It's just something because
Starting point is 01:14:15 Tony's a mark for Oblada, the world's laziest human being. So why are we going to watch 20 minutes of contrived gymnastics what is the purpose that we would want to see this fucking match? It took forever on fast forward. In case, Takesha finally gets fed up
Starting point is 01:14:39 with these heel ways of Hokata. That was really the only thing they teased. And that's... And Danielson yelled at us about how great the Mascarra Dorada victory over Beast Mortos was on Wednesday. It was just, it was sublime is what it was. But after 20 minutes or so, they started just standing in a fucking three-way circle and forearm in each other. And finally, Okada beat Dorito with that shitty little clothesline he does.
Starting point is 01:15:11 at least the little guys can take a good bump for it and nothing was accomplished. If I was Tony and I had access to this kind of legal advice, I would be looking into loopholes in Okada's contract so that I could free up several million dollars to hire somebody that gives a shit and then anybody would give a shit about him. but that's just my opinion well I mean there's two ways to look at it
Starting point is 01:15:48 you get some talent that you have to pay a lot of money for do you just say I'm going to get my money's worth to the best of my ability one way or another and use them on top or do you consider it a sunk cost that right I got to pay this guy but he's going to sit on the bench
Starting point is 01:16:05 well he don't care about sitting other people home for a year and a half and not even they don't even have to be hurt that's a very good point They don't have to be hurt just after Perry fucked his whole company up. He just said, go away until I want to talk to you again. And I'm sure all these people are paid regularly. And so I don't really, you know, but I'm just, I'm amazed that you'd take up the time with it.
Starting point is 01:16:37 You know, when he first got to AW, I thought you were being too hard on Okada. Because I had seen him in New Japan at his peak, which was like the last. last period of time I really cared about New Japan. And the more I would watch him, like, well, you know, this wasn't the night for him, or, okay, there wasn't anything great there. And the more you talked about it, and the more I started watching him, he really, I don't like watching his matches. You said nothing happens.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And then all of a sudden, it's like a hot 90 seconds at the end, maybe, maybe less. And he gets a victory and wins. every time he can save a step, every time he can go down a little easier, every time he can roll to the floor. And there's the only facial expressions are goofy fake ones. And the slump-shouldered,
Starting point is 01:17:31 you know, awkward flat-footed way of moving around, he's David Flair in the ring. And say, there's their problem is because the ones who defend this and or Tony's smoking the hopium, the wishful seeing, whatever that they're doing, maybe he was great. Even though he was great in Japan,
Starting point is 01:17:53 he can't fucking speak, and he has no personality, so he's only going to go so far over here. But even if he was great in Japan, they are assuming that everybody saw him in Japan. And here's the guy over here that's looking at what they're presenting now, just like all the people that on their TV show
Starting point is 01:18:16 that didn't exist before five or six years ago, that had never seen Okada until whenever he came in here a couple of years ago. That's what they're seeing is what I'm seeing. What the fuck? That's what they don't get. The people that already were seeing him are seeing a memory if they're still blind,
Starting point is 01:18:41 to this. But everybody else is seeing what the fuck this fucking guy? And then you also ruin your credibility when you talk about he's the greatest tournament wrestler of all time. This fucking guy? Yeah, by the way, before him,
Starting point is 01:19:01 I don't remember anyone ever being called that on American Wrestling TV. There was no previous greatest tournament wrestler of all time. Well, because it means nothing anyway except to people who are wrapped up in Japanese wrestling. And then you ask yourself a question right away,
Starting point is 01:19:17 is this a tournament? Oh, no, it's not. So it really doesn't even apply to this specific match in any way. It's just a, yeah. It's a factoid about the fellow that's in it. Anywho, you want to get to the first big one, Brian? We've got to get to the first big one now, because this set new standards.
Starting point is 01:19:40 The coffin match between dark, Barbie Allen and Dick the Boozer. Somethings matter with a lot of these people is all you can say. As soon as, as here comes Boozer and Schaefer entering through the arena, and in the back of the building, Darby jumps them in the aisleway, in the middle of the people. And he's swinging a garbage can around. And then he runs up to the balcony and gives him a coffin drop off the balcony. and the people for a sec go, holy shit, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:20:19 And then they quiet down and it's a complete silence while they're having an endless fight in the arena on stairs, in the cheap seats and down on that you can barely see. The camera can't catch it. It's not that quick of a pace. Every once in a while, they'll see somebody fall and they'll pop. And then they just walk-fighted. or fight walked.
Starting point is 01:20:46 What would that be, Brian, where they just hold on to each other and they walk with each other and every 20 or 30 feet they hit each other with a half-hearted punch or run somebody into a rail? Is that fight walking or walk-fighting? A chat and attack.
Starting point is 01:21:03 That'll work. And as they're going through, the people are laughing and they're taking their picture with their phones. So then they go to, ring side and did you see on camera the first good camera shot of the goddamn match was when they were climbing over the rail and moxley was trying to get his blade out of his pocket and couldn't or were you paying close enough attention actually i did not see that specific shot no if you go
Starting point is 01:21:36 back when they fight through the building and they're coming over the rail at the ringside area into ringside. Moxley is stigging two figures and his thumb down into his jeans pocket trying to get his blade out, but he couldn't get it. He's fumbling. It's, the announcers even said, oh, watch Moxley.
Starting point is 01:21:55 They thought he's going to pull a screwdriver out or something. No, he wasn't, you weren't supposed to be looking at that. They called attention to it. So then when they get over and they, that's when Darby was biting him on the ear forever before they got up and he was bleeding. Yeah, I was watching during that period of time, so I just missed it.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Okay, okay, well, apparently, without the blade, because you see in the background of the lengthy bite, Marina Schaefer bends over and picks it up off the ground where they had been. But in the meantime, apparently, he just told Darby, would just bite my ear because he came up bleeding, but it took them forever. Or maybe Darby had a spare blade handy. but it just what an amateur fucking putts moxley is you can't put a blade in the pocket of your goddamn jeans and expect to be able to pull it out in right fashion without without anybody seeing it nevertheless after the long stationary effort moxley's ear was bleeding
Starting point is 01:23:02 and then moxley turned around it took forever to set up the coffin but then derby dove on him so both of them could fall in it. And that's the thing. This was some stunt they would do, punctuated by everybody wandering around, selling around, or trying to set up props for the next trick. At one point,
Starting point is 01:23:25 Marina Schaefer was undoing the turnbuckle. With a wrench, it was like she was loosening the turnbook, like they were going to take the rope off. He never saw anything else about it. Did you? No, I don't think, As you say that, I am thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:23:42 I remember her unscrewing it. Why was she loosening the turnbuckle when nothing ever happened with taking the turnbuckle off? I remember thinking, I wonder what she's going to do, and then nothing ever happened, but I forgot about it. Did you also see that Claudio and Garcia and Yuda all came out and stood around while nothing was happening? And then he told him to leave. what did they do they didn't do anything he just didn't want any help the heel didn't want help from them but they didn't come out trying to help him they just wandered out and stood around for a while
Starting point is 01:24:20 and then schaefer walked off and the crowd was quiet but then they sang something lightly but there was no action going on but then Darby would pull out of He pulled a fork out of the turnbuckle and stabbed Moxley like 15 times in the head and there's more blood. And he got the coffin drop on the coffin ends. They broke the lid on their coffin. And then Darby again is stabbing Moxley in the ear with the fork. But Moxley gives Darby his finished double-armed DDT on the coffin. And I'm thinking, again, my God, this is a lot.
Starting point is 01:25:07 this is September 20th, it's the head-to-head competition between WWE and AEW, their big shows, premium live event, pay-per-view, whatever. And it's like the difference between what you would see at Radio City Music Hall and what you'd see at the Pink Pussy Porn Theater. And just because Moxley, again, has these fucking fantasies that he's Nick Gage and all of his toothless glory, their show looks so goddamn low fucking rent. So then at ringside,
Starting point is 01:25:50 Danielson on commentary pulls out a duffel bag and gives it to Darby, and Darby gets in a duffel bag and pulls out a plastic bag. And puts the plastic bag over Moxley's head and starts stomping his shit out of him and puts him in the coffin. But he doesn't have the lid shut
Starting point is 01:26:08 when here comes pack. Remember Pack? How long's Pack been gone? There's got to be at least eight months, nine months, something like that. Well, Pack's back and his hair is shorter. And he comes in and kicks Darby. The referee is not only, they put him in this position, we're not only he's staring at this
Starting point is 01:26:35 and can't do anything about it because it's no disqualification, lazy booking but he doesn't even have an upset face he's just he's not even in the moment where he's going no you don't belong here you should leave and waving his arms he just standing there watching this
Starting point is 01:26:55 fucking shit go on and that's why they can't register anything with people there's no legitimate emotion being invested in this shit because it's so over the top and stupid on a visual level. People are just waiting for somebody else to do something that looks like it hurts.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And so pack Powerbombs Darby over the top rope onto the coffin on the floor and then got a body bag and put Darby in the body bag, took his time, and then put Darby in the bag in the coffin, and Moxley kicked the lid shut and the referee called for the bell, ding, ding, ding. And they think that that somehow was a good idea. Not only the,
Starting point is 01:27:54 number one, Darby should have won because, my God, we've been inflicted with this fucking Moxley for so long, but get some baby face over. But not only that, it even if you were going to put to heel over, it gets no heat when it's all just done right there at the heels leisure with nobody trying to stop it and the referee standing dumbfounded and slack-jawed.
Starting point is 01:28:23 So it was a rotten finish to a shitty match featuring the world's worst full-time pro wrestling. And then they all carried, the boer horsemen came back and carried the coffin out of the arena. No joy. And the fans booed, and it wasn't the boo your heels. I think a lot of it is we don't like this boar horseman stuff, this death rider stuff. Even if you get the big return of pack, and boy, how much charisma that he showed, just stand in there with his new haircut. But the baby faces get screwed over by Moxley, who is a heel that the fans are kind of sick
Starting point is 01:29:08 of doing this, doing that. Even the fans that like Moxley. I don't know if they like him with this fucking All-Star stable. And it's bigger now. There's more of them. Well, because now they have Daniel Garcia and Pack is back.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Pack's back. So Pack, Garcia, Claudio, useless, Schaefer, Boozer. There's six right there. Did I get them all? I think so. Jesus, Chris, it's the modern-day NWO.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Anywho Well, Jim Oh yes Well, I was going to say You know, perhaps after a match Like that you have to think about All the different parties involved And I don't just mean the two wrestlers
Starting point is 01:29:55 Who are banged up and bruised up And literally placed in body bags Or coffins But I mean the audience That's a lot to witness A lot to take in You have to think about your health You have to think about your sleep
Starting point is 01:30:10 You have to think about your mental well-being And you know what I think we have a front that can help a lot of the listeners with at least something that I said, and I bet I know the man, tell them all about it. Of the words that you said were English. That's what I was about to say was,
Starting point is 01:30:29 and that is the point after the coffin match there, where I decided I had to eat and switch off this program so that I could replenish myself. And you know what you do after you eat, don't you, Brian? what I like to do after I eat is sleep. That's where I was going, but we got to the same place. And you know what makes you sleep and sleep well and sleep with the peace of mind and calm serenity that comes with a lack of stress and a good approach to your mental wellness?
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Starting point is 01:33:34 I hit the wrong button. That is cornbread hemp.com slash JCE, the promo code JCE. as it always is and always shall be. All right, there we go. We can't move on without Taggatha or Arigato, whatever it may be. Jimmy Toe. Right, you never heard anyone say, and Nokia, I used to love when he would yell.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Thank you to the crowd. He was so humble. You've been a wonderful audience. But Jim, there is more. There are still three more matches on this AEW spectacular, and the next one was for the AW women's world championship. Well, they just had that before, see. Mercedes has nine women's world titles.
Starting point is 01:34:20 But not this one. Well, sooner or later she will. Tony Storm versus Thetla versus Chris Statlander versus Jamie Hater. And they've been teasing a past with Jamie Hater and Tony Storm, and they had bad feelings in their in their dealings before and at least you know what i'm trying to say is i don't know what the fuck they've done here because tony storm is pretty much the one would assume the most popular female talent on the roster certainly the star of the company on the female side right can you think of i since they lost old uh maryland minorses and
Starting point is 01:35:12 Roe or Blake Blake Edwards, whatever her fucking name is. I think to their fans, she's by far the biggest female star in the company, by far. So they just had Chris Stadlander beat her
Starting point is 01:35:26 right in the middle of one, two, three with a fucking roll-up. After getting advice from We were Yuda. Right? You saw that part. Yeah. The best part of it is
Starting point is 01:35:43 that's like, getting advice on goddamn finances from fucking Bernie Madoff. They were three hours into the show and they pop us in another girl's four way. Number one, no thanks. I'm sorry, but I had a lot of wrestling to watch. But the deal was that I popped in for the finish. And as you mentioned, then there was the, the advice from old Wheeler.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Like he's, you know, related to the fucking Gracie family. But you would have thought, okay, Thetla is, and I'm not knocking Chris Stadlander, she's had a ton of potential, not really comfortable on promos yet it doesn't seem like. But she's been there forever. If they were going to do something, you know, time was before. Thetla's new.
Starting point is 01:36:43 She's doing. different. She's odd. Very aggressive. Hater had an issue with Storm. Out of anybody that they're going to beat Tony Storm with, they make it Statlander at this point and rolling her up with a little fucking snazzy little roll-up move. One, two, three, new champion. And seemingly rolling up Statlander into the universe of the death riders. Well, they need, they need somebody because they don't have enough people in their group. At least it's probably hard on
Starting point is 01:37:20 Schaefer being the only woman. At least now they can spread that around a little bit. She'll have help. Although it appears most of the time Wheeler probably spends a lot of time in his basement playing video games instead of thinking about women. All right, Jim, well, that was the AEW Women's World Title Change.
Starting point is 01:37:39 We now go to the four-way ladder match for the AEW World Tag Team Champion. We go to it. Oh, boy, folks, you had Josh Alexander and Hitchat-Chiya, taking on Hong Kong Fooey and Kevin Knight, taking on the Hardley Boys, taking on Bandito and Burger King in a four-way ladder match for the tag team title, and each of these teams, of course, has qualified in other multiple team garbage matches to be in this multiple team garbage match. And we're three and a half hours into the show. And this is the point in time now where the lollipop guild
Starting point is 01:38:25 get to play on the trampoline in their backyards with their friends and we are forced to watch. So yay, now we have fake-looking indie wrestling now with ladders. Brian, it did go with entrances. half an hour, 30 fucking minutes. What is the purpose of watching this? How can you keep track of who's doing what to do, or in some cases, who's even on what team? They just go out and do shit intermittently for over and over.
Starting point is 01:39:05 What is the purpose of this? I can't answer the questions for you. I thought it was a... What is the meaning of life? I thought it was a just fine tag team, multi-team ladder match. We've seen a lot of those, it seems like. And Brodito, big win.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Obviously, Tony Kahn's really getting behind them. Well, it's because he finally came up with a tag team name that doesn't sound completely stupid. Brodito sounds like something you might have heard a fucking 90s movie, but at least it rolls off the tongue. But the big news, though, was after the match was over with.
Starting point is 01:39:53 That's what everybody's talking about because after they all play for their, you know, half hour recess, and then the kids scamper back to the back, the two guys left in the ring all alone are the Buccaroos, Maddie and Nicky. and they're just standing there,
Starting point is 01:40:14 but they're obviously not pitching to anything, and the cameras are not cutting away, so you know something's about to happen. And then here comes Jungle Jackoff, into the ring. How long has he been, it's been a year, I guess, right? Or more. And I haven't really been counting the days
Starting point is 01:40:39 because I've just gotten so relieved that we haven't had to look at it. at him. But they stare at each other and then Jack tackles Matt and they all get in a fight. Now, wouldn't he, whose side was he on when last we saw him? Wasn't he affiliated with whatever thing that they were trying to do to stay on the cards at that point, the buckaroos? Oh, not stay on the cards, help run the company. Remember, he turned with them to attack Tony Khan, and because they couldn't be fired, EVPs, he was protected, he was in line with the bucks, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:20 So now a year later he comes back, he's mad at him. Well, if you heard any of the commentary, and if you did, I apologize, but if you heard any of the commentary, I think Excalibur said they set this up with something on their YouTube show. Oh, Christ. Well, of course they did. Well, anyway, Rocky Romero ran in. because he was just dying to get a piece of that fucking prick.
Starting point is 01:41:47 But Perry dumped him too, and then the Hardley boys double super kicked him and grabbed him and were about to knee-lift him, and he looked up at him, and he laughed. They're big on that spot. They love that. Because as he looks up at him and starts smiling, the lights go out.
Starting point is 01:42:09 And then you see on the video screen, there's Perry digging up a coffin now right there they completely lost us because anybody looks at Perry and see that there's no way he could dig a six-foot deep hole by himself Perry digging up a coffin with his cinematographer friend yes who didn't want to help with the shovel and then he chains it to the back of his
Starting point is 01:42:35 bread delivery van and drags it down the road and now he's in a laboratory where he revives Dino Dush, good old Luchosaurus. And then suddenly the lights come on and there's Dino in the ring and he double choke slams the buckaroos. Now, again, the biggest pop maybe of the night was for Dino. They loved it. He's back. That part was great. When Perry showed up in the ring, people like, ah?
Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah. However, it was ambivalence. When Perry indicated, when the fans started dancing on their own to the Jungle Boy song and then they played it, I feel like it was almost like a moment of happiness amongst their fan base, because it was a feeling akin to years ago when we used to come and dance in this song. Oh, boy. Here at the AEW. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:38 And for the new, the new view. or new listeners out there when Dino hugged Jack and they played Tarzan Boy. Oh, and that's what the people like because now they've got their own song that they can not only
Starting point is 01:43:56 wave to but sing, whoa, in some form. I'm really happy for the family, the estate, and the publisher of Baltimore. They were waiting for a night like this. It's been a couple of years. They didn't know if it would ever happen
Starting point is 01:44:11 again. But that's the thing. The people like Dino, the problem is he can't work, as we've seen repeatedly, and nobody there can book him to hide it because either they don't know how or he won't listen. Perry's back where he was five years ago as the stooge to the fucking big guy that they like. And now we're going to, again, so that the buckaroos can bring together. the whole lollipop guild they can work with more of their friends
Starting point is 01:44:49 so we're going to see this we waited a year for Perry to come back for him to be in the same spot he's in five years ago as the sidekick to the fucking large lizard
Starting point is 01:44:59 yeah that's exactly what it is we're going to see the Jurassic Express against the Young Bucks they're all friends so hopefully that means
Starting point is 01:45:08 they'll have fun cooperative matches that the fans will really enjoy a big moment here and uh A big moment. I hope they bring Anna Jay in, maybe his jungle girl, put her in a loincloth, have her swing out on a rope.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Go all the way with it. What about the outfit that Marino Sullivan got to wear in Tarzan the ape man? That works for me. Two years before Tarzan and his mate, the Hayes office had taken over. Anyhow. But this was something, just the kind of lack of reaction when he got in, the ambivalence to it. And then, of course, while they're holding him about to hit him
Starting point is 01:45:50 and the lights go out, the video was like a minute, maybe a minute and a half, but maybe a minute. They didn't do anything to Perry. They just stood there holding his hands watching the video? Yeah, no, when the lights came on, he was still down there, and he was used to being on his knees in front of him with them holding his hand, or head or hair or something.
Starting point is 01:46:11 But he had not, oh, in any way, shape, or form tried to move. And by the way, I know they're friends, but if you're going to reanimate anyone from wrestling history to be on your side and help you, that's who you're going to pick? Well, see, that was part of it. They had a video of him bringing, like Dr. Frankenstein, bringing him back to life. But that's the thing. You can't just reanimate anybody now. It has to be a cold-blooded reptilian because they last longer and the cryogenic thing. So then I guess the question also is the pay-per-view in England.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Was Luchosaurus going to be there if Kip Sabian hadn't gotten hurt? Or did they just, instead of waiting until this to bring Luchosaurus back, which would have been even bigger if they both returned on the same night, not if we had seen Luchosaurus wrestling with the heels for the last month? Well, you know, now that you brought that up, that's the thing is that now we know why that Pips Sabian was abusing Luchosaurus over the past few weeks to give him more pisses, off reason to turn baby face in this.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Right, but remember when they brought him back. It doesn't make any sense. They brought him back once. He was a big heel, but he wasn't a heel because he was being abused by his partners. But now his program is with the Buccaroos instead of the people have been slapping him around for the last month. And when they brought him back, they had a short little vignette video, a lot shorter than the one that had here.
Starting point is 01:47:43 And you only saw that. Probably shot at the same time. Yeah. So it means Jack. Perry brought him back and instead of saying like, I'll need you there for me, he's like, go help Mother Wayne in this battle against Christian.
Starting point is 01:47:54 That's right, yes. None of this makes any, and he's got a hundred guys sitting home. He's paying to do nothing, but he had to bring the lizard back for a month for that match that he shouldn't have had Edge and Christian work because it took
Starting point is 01:48:11 the edge off Toronto. It's going to be interesting to see what the show becomes. And the same week are going to have the return of Jack Perry and the return of Orange Cassidy. So you're filling the show back up with the stars of year one. All right, well, moving along, because we got an update on the previous stars that, you know, Moxley and Darby had the coffin match, right?
Starting point is 01:48:36 Well, all of a sudden, now we're in the back, and Moxley and all of his stooges are there with the coffin. Apparently, we're expected to believe that an hour and a half or so they had go. They had this match. The heels were allowed to carry the baby face in the coffin out of the arena and nobody has tried to get the fucking guy out of the coffin. And by the way, the coffin door wasn't even closing at that point when the match.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Well, no, they had broke it when they did the splashes on it. So it's just laying on top of the deal. But the point is that nobody stopped him and said, hey, let that fucking guy out. They're just back there in the back of the. the building and Moxley mumbled against something and all the stooges peel out in the truck and then as soon as they do the coffin lid comes off and Darby comes out with a lead pipe and hits Moxley with it and puts him in a body bag and he's going to hit him with a lead pipe and then
Starting point is 01:49:39 he sees something. Oh, well, this is better. So he gets a spree. can of some kind of shit and sprays it all over the bag and then sets the body bag on fire with Moxley in it. Who's going to, oh, ah! And then a guy runs in with a fire extinguisher and a couple others drag Darby away after they put Moxley out from setting him on fucking fire. And it burned through the bag. It wasn't like some fireproof bag because it got through the bag, if you notice.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Yeah, no, they did some kind of stunt where they said, okay, now you're going to, you're going to be here with the goddamn fire extinguisher, right? That type of deal. What the, these fucking morons. The only believable part is, you know, obviously taking law enforcement and putting that aside, I believe you could light someone on fire backstage at AEW and not lose your job. Well, they've done it several times. So obviously this feud isn't going anywhere.
Starting point is 01:50:43 that has a double meaning how do you go what what's next after a coffin match and then a post coffin match burning in a body bag game kid did we ever see game kid again after he was dragged away in that body bag
Starting point is 01:51:02 I forgot about that no he must be on the desert we need to get Dr. Jack Perry on that case to revive him too yeah you were counting members in a death group before, the death not death triangle, the death riders is what they are. He's another one I guess. He's a
Starting point is 01:51:20 associate at least. Anyhow. Damn it. Thank you very much. Well, I know the people out there are thinking already but it's time for our main event.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Only four hours and 15 minutes into this show so they deliberately extended the show and made this shit drone on even longer in the attempt to somehow
Starting point is 01:51:57 and Brian I don't know why that anybody couldn't talk him out of this or explain to him the actual facts of the thing but Tony Kahn legitimately believe that if he made his pay-per-view go five hours that somehow that would take viewers away from Russell Paloza,
Starting point is 01:52:21 that people wouldn't tune away from his show to tune in their show. Most of them weren't watching his show to begin with that we're going to watch this thing. And many others were probably still trying to figure out how to watch the WW show because they were confused about that. But would you think the number of people who were, dissuaded from watching the WWE show at all because this thing was going into its fifth hour would be negligible or minuscule, which one? I can't imagine it would be a big hurt to the overall number, maybe a small blip on the live number,
Starting point is 01:53:04 but remember too, WWE announced in advance. They're starting with Sina versus Brock. Exactly. They put it out there right away, 8 o'clock, or not 8 o'clock, 7 o'clock, this is where we're going. That's why I was surprised when the main event went as long as it did. But I don't think that hurt the WWE event. I think issues with the app and downloading it and resistance to downloading it or paying for it, those are going to be the issues. Yeah, but this was just needlessly extending this show already that had multiple things. How many people have you heard
Starting point is 01:53:41 about we talked about we're bleeding how many pieces of furniture so far have been broken a guy's been set on fire and then these two come out Kyle Felcher and hang nail Adam page or hang ma'am as the internet has started calling him and they're going to go 40 fucking minutes or whatever because they think that that means they're going to have a classic world title match and really get Kyle to the next level. When in actuality, they're going to break a few more tables, but that nobody's going to bleed,
Starting point is 01:54:23 nobody's going to be set on fire. Now you got, I've been a lot of those people in the building in Toronto. We're like, shit, if they'd have got this thing over in three and a half hours, we could be home to see Brock and Sina. So they're, they're men's world title match.
Starting point is 01:54:43 And again, they're calling it that. And I don't know who's the proponent of that, but it's oddly worded. It's ridiculous that anybody's going to confuse it. It's ridiculous that you should actually put the women's world title on the level of the men's world title to even differentiate them. While I'm not sure that either Kyle or Page fits the criteria fully to challenge for the men's world title, world title. It's just stupid wording.
Starting point is 01:55:20 It's very odd. Having said that, this should have gone on in the middle of this cart. There is no real issue here, and they got a boring world champion that says the same shit in the same way all the time, and he has the same kind of match same way all the time. And the only time that Page has been
Starting point is 01:55:46 different is when he's been in there with somebody that knew what the fuck they were doing like MJF for punk that's the only time his matches have been different and with Kyle he's going to do he's going to work as hard as he possibly can and do anything that he's asked to do because he's grateful to have this spot and he seems to be a very nice young man he's got all the physical talent in the world, but he will never learn anything in this environment about wrestling. He won't learn how to put matches together. He'll keep having matches like this.
Starting point is 01:56:29 He will learn bad habits instead of proper psychology. And this may be the biggest wasted potential on the whole roster. And as I said before, I don't even think he should be in an NXT program, he should be in an OVW where instead of 150 guys, there was 25 or 30. And there was individual instruction with on-the-job training from guys that still understood the business and the opportunity to apply it in small towns in front of small crowds without being exposed before you were ready.
Starting point is 01:57:12 and Kyle could be a phenomenon. But right now he's going to be another talented athletic indie guy that they have to take and completely retrain when he eventually gets up there, and it may be too late. Yeah, the crowd sits staring at a lot of times and it pops on shit that looks like somebody got injured. And it's a page match.
Starting point is 01:57:40 They do a lot of moves with the table, and Paige will go up and climb up to the top rope and backflip backwards off without looking two or three times just because he knows the guy's supposed to catch him and they're trying to have a classic so that means they'll do something
Starting point is 01:58:00 that should hospitalize both guys and then they'll lay there and sell for fucking five minutes and then get up and be 100% again and watching this match put me in suspended animation I just zoned out. What's the difference between the baby face and the heel? They're both doing the same shit. What is the baby face gives the heel a tombstone pile driver on the floor
Starting point is 01:58:28 and then a DDT on the floor. And then they sell forever, but then Paige climbs up to the top without looking and back flips. He's already done it once before. And Kyle moves. and kicks page and Kyle's up and fine after the tombstone and the DDT because now it's his turn and any brainbusters page through a table to the floor and everybody lays there forever and they got 15 more minutes a match to do after a brainbuster off the table through the floor
Starting point is 01:59:05 and then Kyle I felt bad for him the punishment that his leg was receiving when he was slapping a shit out of his own leg over and over. But if you kick Adam Page 73 times like that and it hadn't stopped him, you quit kicking him and try something else. That's what they would do. Again, they would suddenly jump up
Starting point is 01:59:39 and do 100 miles an hour leading into a stunt and then sell to the point. It was like, Jesus Christ, please get up and do anything. The Grand Canyon took less time to form. And then they had set up a table on the floor. But then they hadn't used it. They had misdirected us. But then they went back to the apron in front of the table
Starting point is 02:00:03 that they had set up 15 minutes earlier. And Paige dead-eyed, Kyle off the apron through the table right on his head on the floor, and they laid there forever, and then they did a quick exchange, and then they laid there forever. Then they hopped up, and they went 100 miles an hour.
Starting point is 02:00:24 And Danielson was having a hernia, trying to will this by sheer power of brain into being a classic wrestling match. It was the longest match I'd ever seen. And then Kyle ripped the turnbuckle pad, off of the turnbuckle, which was it, was it the second, Brian, or was it the third time
Starting point is 02:00:51 that that had been done so far in the show? I lost track. Not counting Marina Shafir, that was a different thing. I think second maybe. No. Yeah, no, she was just unloosening it. The other, this was ripping the buckle off.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Well, anyway, he put Page on the turnbuckle and kicked him, and then went for the brain buster on the turnbuffle. Then in my picture froze. And the buffering started again. And it just buffered and buffered and buffered. And I couldn't get it to do anything.
Starting point is 02:01:37 And then the notification came up on the screen, something has gone wrong. Please try again later. and by the time that I could get the thing back again, it wanted me to start all the way from the fucking beginning. So I went online and I understand that he fucking flung him off the top rope on his head and beat him. That is correct. Is that about what happened?
Starting point is 02:02:08 That's about what happened after 38 minutes or so. He beat Kyle Fletcher. Adam Page did. Yes. So again, and again, before, anybody knocks my internet that's why i went and checked my speed 946 over 860 something it's just what the if i really wanted to what did you no i was watching it it suddenly just froze throughout the entire five hour event did you pause oh many times many times maybe that triggered it
Starting point is 02:02:41 so that you ran out of like the live feed no this was with the next morning this morning when i came back. This was the last part of it. I had watched the last half of it until then with no problems whatsoever. And if it had been something I really wanted to see and I'd have paid for it and it did, I would have been
Starting point is 02:03:02 fucking pissed. But fuck this streaming bullshit. But also the point is again in their minds because they've been taught this way by whoever runs the school of
Starting point is 02:03:17 indie wrestling. Oh, if we have a great match and it goes a long time and then I beat Kyle by the skin of my teeth, then it will get him over. Now, what would have got him over was a concerted and cohesive push as an individual, not with a real manager instead of Don play acting sometimes as a manager. and an issue, a personal issue with the fucking champion and him almost trying to fuck the champion and the champion foiling his evil deed
Starting point is 02:04:00 and escaping by the skin of his teeth, not just let's do every move we know how to do until we can't do anymore and then we'll just end it. But that's what they do over here. And again, it was hard to even focus on this, you know, for anyone who thought I was just going to watch both on different times, I watched one right into the other because I had to watch everything because we're doing this today. And I had Lesnar versus Sina on one monitor, an AEW on the other, and I cared more
Starting point is 02:04:35 about Sina versus Lesner than I did about this match that didn't seem like it was going to end. Well, of course, and that's what, again, they're just, they're k-fabing themselves in AEW, as Vince used to say, because just like with the overrun where they've lost most of their audience at the end and they shoot the big angle, they put their world title match on where anybody that was watching their show, they would have seen the world title match regardless of whether the show had gone fucking five hours or not, but they put it in the goddamn position of whether now that it's, It's four hours into this show, and we've got this mega match on the other thing. Maybe I'll come back to it, and maybe they don't.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Why put your world title match against a match from a much bigger company involving much bigger stars instead of getting it over so they have the choice of switching over if they want to? Because probably a number of people probably did. but well that was all out it's it's another it's excess it's doing the same kind of things over and over in different matches on the same show it's wearing the live crowd out that's already basically come there just to see people hurt themselves and they're going back to where it's like year one which was their in terms of talent, the first year was their most amateurish year because they had pockets and they had Jungle Boy and they had the Cucamunga kids
Starting point is 02:06:31 and they had the Japanese outlaw girls and it was rotten and now they've run off the talent that they've acquired in those in those intervening years and they're having to focus on these fucking backyard friends from
Starting point is 02:06:50 Calabasasas County or whatever. It's, it's, boy, here we go. Well, there we go. That was AEW all out 2025. And of course, Jim, if you said, what did I do with my day? Your family may be saying that too. They may say, hey, why are you watching wrestling all day on Saturday? They may want to sue. You know, you told me that, that your wife and children were thinking of
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Starting point is 02:08:28 a star on wrestling or a star that he's that he's that he's that is suing i think of like a country star was like hey steve i need some help my wife, she's going to leave me because I'm watching Raw every Monday. So you're saying that he might have been the one to say, Tammy, why not give George another chance? Although I would not say that was him. We established who that was a few weeks ago, but a great man who could help you if he has the time, Steve. If you're married to Tammy Wynette and Steve has the time, he'll be glad to get you out of it. Stephen P. New at newlaw Office.com, 8770-50, Steve, he's a busy man these days. He's kicking, take, and take
Starting point is 02:09:07 in a variety of locations. All right, lots of drama. And here we are, ladies and gentlemen, the final portion of the show, the look at WWE's Russell Paloosa, an extravaganza like no other, meaning it was hard to find because you didn't know where to find it,
Starting point is 02:09:29 or you did know, and it was a pain of the ass. From Indianapolis, Jim Russell Paloza. Indianapolis, Indiana, baby. Well, they had about 15,000. thousand plus people up there according to the incomparable Michael Cole and to make sure that I was getting this show I turned in turned in tuned in I should have turned in I tuned in about 15
Starting point is 02:09:54 minutes early and I caught on their pregame show and they played it later but the Brock Sina package was incredible that was a piece of art especially not only the editing but when you sit Brock down and do a sit down with him, get sound bites, that's the best use of Brock speaking. The longer he goes, the more the aura diminishes. But that's the whole thing about this, the WWE in general and this particular Russell Palooza show, the quality of the production from a technical standpoint,
Starting point is 02:10:35 as a television product, light years ahead of what AEW does or can do. And a lot of that truthfully masks the fact that WW, while AEW, again, does way too much. WWE is just the bare minimum that they have to. But it's just presented in such a big-time way. I the God bless America by the war and treaty I don't know what they won a Grammy for but I know them from a diabetes commercial but it's not I mean this this show is just you can tell they've got their shit together as professionals and the history package between
Starting point is 02:11:26 where they juxtapose the history of ESPN and the history of the WWF and how they're both renegades and nice to see sticks getting a check. But the music fit. And Triple H doing the voiceover written especially for him, the editing is amazing. And did you notice, Brian, when they showed Vince
Starting point is 02:11:52 on the package, he got a pop in the building. That sound, that pop was him crashing into someone on the Merritt Parkway, I believe. Well, no, you would have heard a little glass breaking. after the fact. But anyway, the package, amazing editing, and the point was sports is entertainment.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Always has been, always will be. And then suddenly the lights go up and there's Triple H in the ring with new, the white ropes and the whole color scheme, welcome to the final form of sports and entertainment. And they blow off pyro. And it's a big time show
Starting point is 02:12:32 and they don't sound like do it yourself announcers and they don't do shit that doesn't look like it's supposed to when it didn't work in rehearsal because they didn't rehearse it. They don't build fake rooms to break through fake walls. This is... Anyhow.
Starting point is 02:12:55 And then the truck pulls in and it's Pat McAfee in Indianapolis. Imagine that. And he gets the big entrance of the big hometown pop and the McAfee chant and I don't know why he only stayed the first three matches. Did he have like, is he on home incarceration? He's got to be in by nine or what was the deal there? I don't know. But otherwise, you know, that added something for the people in Indianapolis and he's a, McAfee's a name from, you know, television, as seen on TV.
Starting point is 02:13:32 maybe to prepare for Sunday. It's, you know, at the NFL. Well, Jesus Christ, he's already sitting there and he couldn't stay two more hours, nevertheless. It's time for Brock and Sina. And here comes Brock, and he's fucking massive. And, I mean, just giant size. And boom, he gets in the ring and they wait and they milk
Starting point is 02:13:58 and they get the Sina chance. And the music plays. and it's the big pop. And here comes seen out with 50 little kids dressed just like him and the t-shirt and the cap and the, Brian, I'm not that familiar with children. How old would you say the age ranges of those children were? You are familiar with children. The age range?
Starting point is 02:14:23 I don't know anywhere from seven. How old are they when they're about seven to 14? I don't know. Well, they were, they were about 12 inches on either side of three feet tall. Hall of Peace. Wouldn't you say that's an accurate representation? My first thought was where are their parents? There's a lot of kids, Dad's a lot
Starting point is 02:14:42 of kids. Where are all those parents? And boy, I tell you what, just for liability's sake, if a couple of those kids had gone off the reservation and gone rogue and run down that ramp, we'd have had all kinds of shit going on. But anyhow, so they gave the statistic.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Sina and Brock are one and one in the W.W.E. at least. And Sina's got 99 pay-per-view wins. And you just knew this was going to be number 100. So they got the Let's Go Sina chance going on. And they have the in-ring introduction.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Sina gets his big intro and old weird hair starts to turn to announce Brock. And suddenly, ladies and gentlemen, it's Happy Heyman. And he's on the apron and gives Brock the big intro, the former UFC champion, undisputed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The last real ass kicker, Barack Lester. How does Paul get away with doing that at his age and his condition, where he can just do that and not keel over? But it already had the big fight feel,
Starting point is 02:16:01 and that was the, you know, the thing people wanted, to be honest, even though everybody's a heel, you want to hear that introduction. And they set it up on Smackdown, didn't they? The night before when Brock walked past Haven and said, we got to talk. Yeah. And then the next night you got this.
Starting point is 02:16:22 Yeah. That conference led to an introduction. But then they rang the bell. And I've got to say that I am somewhat astonished. and I will give my thoughts on this thing. It started the way that I knew it should and it probably would that Brock was all over him and the people are chanting, let's go Sina,
Starting point is 02:16:46 but the clotheslines and the turnbuckles and the power slam and the clothesline and a German and a German. He's really kicking a shit out of Sina. Then John fires back up and gives him the tackles and finally Brock takes a bump. and two attitude adjustments.
Starting point is 02:17:08 And the fans are going bat shit. And then three attitude adjustments. Well, the third, not three more. And he gets a two count. But then he goes to do the You Can't See Me and runs off the ropes right into a fucking F5. And then Brock picks him up and gives him a second F5. And Cina's selling.
Starting point is 02:17:33 And Brock picks him up and gives him a third. F5. And seen a sell it, and Brock's taking his time, a fourth F5. And it takes the time a fifth F5. And he takes his time
Starting point is 02:17:48 a sixth F5. And he covered him one, two, three. It wasn't ten minutes. So that was interesting. And then Brock came back in F5, the referee, and then he,
Starting point is 02:18:08 gave Sina another F-5 and left. And Sina finally got up and he wanted to walk out under his own power and he milked and got the thank you Sina chance and the big cheers. But they're obviously going to bring this back. One would think is this his retirement match where he gets some type of redemption? Was that the deal they made with Brock before they brought him back? you're one and one with Sina, let's go one and one and you'll end up two and two.
Starting point is 02:18:45 And you'll be the last match? Because otherwise, why would, they didn't need Brock and Sina to save this show because really the interest was the mixed tag. And yes, this was a big headline match. But why would, Brock is over,
Starting point is 02:19:06 Brock doesn't need to destroy John Sina to be over enough to face anybody else. So to destroy Sina in a big major event like this in his last match in Indianapolis and one of his last matches in the company, now that they've just course corrected and made him a baby face as he should have been and everybody's supposed to feel good from here on out,
Starting point is 02:19:35 I think this has to be the setup for the last one where he gets his redemption and fights back against the monster that he wasn't ready for. Because otherwise, they just kind of made people feel flat and why did Brock need this to face anybody else that they might want to book him with after Sena's retired?
Starting point is 02:20:00 Here's my question. You know, what I was thinking about, too, is Heyman. Heyman and Lesnar feels right. Brock never seems happier than when he's bouncing around while Hayman talks about him. Yeah. That's the biggest smile I've ever seen a Releuser's face. I've seen it several times while Hayman's just talking about him.
Starting point is 02:20:18 It works. And it's a cool moment for the fans, for Hayman to reveal himself. I don't know how he snuck the ringside. For Hayman to reveal himself. Actually, they had a piano crate with a sheet over it on wheels. And while nobody was looking, they pushed it to ringside and got a crane from AAA to take the top off. Well, I don't know how he got there. but all of a sudden, Heyman was there, a cool moment.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Fans reacted to it. Beyond that, did he do anything to actually help his heel charge? No, he left. He didn't even stay. Yeah. He just introduced them. Yeah, that was, you know, that, and that's what they wanted, and I can see that. A little wink, wink.
Starting point is 02:21:05 But, but no, if, if they want to book Brock with anybody else after C, Sina's gone, this didn't aid in that because Brock doesn't need to be any more over. The only thing this would aid in is a return match where Sina says just one, I just got to see if I can do this. So we shall see. Is that a good final match? And if you know you're going there, it gives you a little bit of time to build, even though you have some stuff in between. Sina having to overcome Brock Lesnar, is that a good final match? And Sina would have to win that, right?
Starting point is 02:21:43 well yes and i know a lot of people are saying oh don't you know jim it's it's a wrestling protocol they should do a job on the way out when you're leaving the territory yes not when you're leaving the goddamn business that's why i've had the the gripe with sena being a heel for much of this is that we said from the start people didn't want to boo him people wanted to see the last time and you know the their hero that they like now more than they did when he was actually their fucking hero. And now that they've got it course corrected, again, you know, that it just doesn't make sense. A lot of people would say, well, should Sina have put over a young heel that's going to be there full time? Again, yeah, if it wasn't billed as his retirement tour, this is the last time you get to see him,
Starting point is 02:22:40 I think especially the very last time, it's a feel good moment. It's not just somebody putting somebody over because they're leaving. It's their, they're done forever. And I mean, there's always circumstances and context that would change your mind. But I think potentially what they've done is with this.
Starting point is 02:23:09 They've said, okay, we can build Brock up and Brock can beat Sina because it's believable. And then we can build a return match where Sina gets his win back and Sina doesn't have to beat one another of our full-time fucking guys on the roster. And at the same time, who do they want to see right now on the full-time roster that would benefit from beating John Sina that's not already over, that would get over just because he beat John Sina? Austin theory
Starting point is 02:23:44 Oh gee is he still there I don't know where he is Where the fuck did he go? Remember he beat Sina I was going to make him After Sina tore him apart And a promo Yeah well that's what I'm saying I think you know this is probably
Starting point is 02:24:01 The thing to do But nevertheless That's what happened with poor old John Sina When he just got took apart And put back together like a ransom note at the hands of Brock Lesnar, followed by a three-and-a-half-minute commercial break, followed by a Saudi Arabia plug, followed by a WrestleMania and Las Vegas plug, followed by a merchandise plug, followed by a plug for Hulk Hogan's beer.
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Starting point is 02:29:10 Jim let's return to beautiful tropical Indianapolis for WWE Russell Palozo well and this was the big reunion of the The former great tag team that is split apart when one of them got a chance to be a main event guy and the other one, they've been doing everything. They can to keep him afloat. But now it means something that they're back together because it's been a couple of years.
Starting point is 02:29:38 And they took on Paul Heyman's number one tag team combination in his stable, Bronson Reed and Bronner. And they made L.A. Knight the special referee because he has been having these. various issues with all parties except he kind of likes Jimmy Uso. So they added that late, the special referee thing. I don't know whether somebody had a fucking idea or whatever. But nevertheless, you know, again, this is a big time visuals they did. The Uso's entrance. They even had them come out and cut the music and had Jimmy cut
Starting point is 02:30:22 to promo to pep the people up with the cell phone spotlights so that they could do the big entrance and everybody's waving and got the lights and the music and they got their video. And of course it all took forever. But then after they got that business out of the way, Heyman come down with the Heyman come down, it sounded like Uncle Harold now. And then Heyman come down from the old Moholland place.
Starting point is 02:30:49 Heyman came down with his boys, and this is what I was saying again. I'll just say it real quick, one more time. If you have a regular tag team composed of guys that are seen by the fans as main event level talent, and Braun Breaker is, and Bronson Reed is there now, and Jay Usoe definitely, and Jimmy to some extent, it gets people interested in tag team matches again, but they need to do things like this. And this was not a classic tag team match by any stretch of the imaginations,
Starting point is 02:31:31 because the Uso's are not a good working tag team in the ring. They're sloppy as shit, but they have the personality. It's like two Jimmy Valions teaming up in, you know, the Carolina's the early 80s. So they get by with that. But otherwise, Annette, it was a tag team match that people wanted to see the baby faces win. They have the match, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:31:59 And suddenly, you know, they were kicking it into high gear and everybody was hitting everything. And Jay hit his splash. And then Jay grabbed the chair. And of course, they still have relaxed rules over here even in this company. They can't have a match without chairs and tables and shit. But Jay pulls out the chair and wax Braun Breaker over the back and bronze so solid.
Starting point is 02:32:27 And Jay leaned forward. The chair bounced right back and immediately smacked Jay in the goddamn head and busted him open. He's gushing blood. How about that? I'm like, what the fuck? But just let that be a lesson to all. all the prospective young wrestlers out there when you hit somebody that's
Starting point is 02:32:53 that's pretty solid with a fucking chair, don't lean over forward with it. Give yourself some fucking space. Because the spot that the heel does every once in a while where he swings the chair and the guy moves and he hits the top rope and the chair flies back that comes from real life. I've seen it happen for a shoot too.
Starting point is 02:33:15 So anyway, he'd bust himself open. And then I don't know if they were going to do anything else there at that point. But you heard L.A. Knight, he saw him bleeding and he looked over. And then he goes over to Bronbreaker. And he says, go to the spear. You can hear it on the tape. And then he speared fucking Jay while he's bleeding. And then they basically, they kicked it in, speared both the us.
Starting point is 02:33:48 those through the fucking table in the ring and then bronze splash bronze splash blan blonde blonde splashed blonde blon splash
Starting point is 02:34:02 splashed braced reed come off the top rope on one of them one two three that's what happens so they may have got out of there a little quicker because Jay was losing blood by the gallon
Starting point is 02:34:17 Yeah. The blondels look good. The Uso's will see what happens with Jay Uso's face. And obviously, you know, they lost. So you would think this isn't the end of this, but we'll see what happens with Jay Uso's face first. And they're putting them over big. And even when they came out, I don't know if you noticed, they had matching leather jackets.
Starting point is 02:34:44 They're looking more and more like a team. That's the thing, is that you need to create. two individual guys, but they look good together and they have connection in their matches where they don't have to double team like the Midnight Express, but they have to have some ability to work together, which they do, and then, and they need to be seen as main event level guys, I'd put the fucking tag team belts on Reed and Breaker
Starting point is 02:35:15 because they're useless now. but as on reading breaker that's gold for him to carry it, something for him to brag about, and they can beat all the other teams, it doesn't hurt anything, and then they can have this program with the Uso's who are 18 million time tag team champions, and it might elevate it a little bit
Starting point is 02:35:37 and get something out of the tag team belts that are just wallowing in obscurity. If they got a little bit of a run with the tag belt, It's not like a two-week thing and they drop them, but a little bit of a run with them, it would do more to establish those belts or re-establish them than anything else because there's no other team in that company
Starting point is 02:35:53 that if they held the belt for eight months, it would mean something. They would tell you it meant something, but it wouldn't mean anything to the fans. Well, because all they'd been doing is defending it in the second preliminary match against guys that ain't over. Anyhow. You know what was next, don't you, Brian?
Starting point is 02:36:14 I do. Yes. Would you like to tell the people what was next? Correct me if I'm wrong. Was it the women's championship match? Yes, it was. It was Eoskeye versus Stephanie Vakere for the held-up women's chance. Is it the women's or the WWE?
Starting point is 02:36:32 Which, uh... Well, see, now don't ask me. Or women's world or WWE women's. The women's world. And Wayne's world, party on. Excellent. See, I'm about to ask you some questions because you, you, the first thing you asked me,
Starting point is 02:36:48 did you watch E.O. Sky and Stephanie Vacker? And I said on a day of 10 hours of back-to-back nonstop wrestling, you're going to ask me, and y'all, it was a great match. Stephanie's great. Here's the thing. I'm not saying that it wasn't a good wrestling match where they performed wrestling moves correctly and might have even been exciting for the audience.
Starting point is 02:37:13 It was already sitting there. But let me ask you a couple questions, Brian. What personal animosity, personal issue is between these two young ladies that necessitated me seeing this match? There is no personal issue. It is a battle for a held-up championship. And normally in wrestling, well, there's nothing wrong with that. A cold match, but for a world championship. Well, that could still be important, except how many women's world?
Starting point is 02:37:45 titles are there in the WWE system right now? You just asked. Women's world. Is it the WW women's title or women world title or NXT title or? I don't know if NXT is worlds. At least it's NXT women's champion and then there's
Starting point is 02:38:01 of course the world champion and the WW or maybe it's just Ron Smackdown. I'm not exactly sure how it works. Now there's intercontinental, but that's not world. Yeah. That's a... Well, it's not the world, but it's a belt. It's just all the land, all the Contonance, that's all it is.
Starting point is 02:38:18 Yeah, I think there's tag belts. But again, we don't even need to get into the tag team situation. But basically there's multiple single women's championships in the company. This is for a vacant one that was vacated by Naomi, the one we were interested in when she got pregnant. Well, Jimmy Uso was interested in her too. That's the issue. Well, yeah, well, unfortunately, he got there first. But now we've got two young ladies fighting each other just to see who's going to get the belt that the other girl gave up when she got knocked up.
Starting point is 02:38:56 And what really blistering fireball bring down the heavens promos have Stephanie Vacker and E.O. Sky cut here lately or in their careers. It makes me want to listen to them, talk me into the building and see this match. I can't say anybody Eoske's promos doing that for you I think Stephanie Vicarre that hasn't really been the direction for her to do that it's been more promos
Starting point is 02:39:21 to establish her personality than who she is as you watch her dominate and beat everyone and have a quick rise would you say that her promos
Starting point is 02:39:32 are of the level of oh I don't know maybe even not let's say not Becky Lynch but even a fucking Bianca or a Ria I don't think we've seen that from her yet.
Starting point is 02:39:46 They are enjoyable because she has an accent, so it's a very pleasant accent to listen to her talk. Okay. But no, I would not compare her to the promos of the women trained in the WWE system right now. So basically, you wanted me to watch a match between two girls that don't do good promos and don't have a personal issue. Right.
Starting point is 02:40:06 And are fighting over one of the various miscellaneous women's championships that neither one of them even holds that they're just fighting over it because the other one that we were interested in, as we mentioned before, had to go on maternity leave, in the middle of 10 hours straight of wrestling, and they're going to go 20 minutes. And then at the end of the match,
Starting point is 02:40:30 they shake hands, hug, and bow to each other. So the answer is, no, no, I'm not going to do that, because I don't care. and I'm not saying that E.O. Sky can't do a lot of great wrestling moves. I just don't care. And to be quite honest, since the business that was attracted to the show was primarily because of Becky Lynch and A.J. Lee, I would have kept Stephanie and E.O. off the show entirely so that Becky and A.J. as the only females on the show were that much more special. because not one single person tuned in because Stephanie was wrestling EO.
Starting point is 02:41:22 But while Lesner and Sina was a big thing, and Cody and Drew were stars, and the Uso's getting back together was an attraction, the business of this show was the mixed tag match. Why put girls in to go 20 minutes before you got more girls coming out that we paid to see? Well, again, that's why I didn't watch. this match. It's not a one girl's match per show company.
Starting point is 02:41:49 And it hasn't been... Well, but it would keep them more fucking special. Well, this was not needed. Who gave a shit? Well, it was a good match. The fans got into it. Spectacular finish. One of the most spectacular finishes I've ever seen. She hit... I don't even know what you would call it. They called it something like a corkscrew moon salt as fast as you've ever seen it. She hit it perfectly. And then, and rolled her up in a way, too. I've never, like, she hooked her leg with her legs.
Starting point is 02:42:19 It was immaculate. It was so good. Stephanie Vicarre, you know, watch out Rio Ripley. Stephanie Vakarer is really, really, really good. I understand you hate Eoskei and, you know, all her future children and anyone else in her family. But, Stephen, never what, it was a wonderful, fucking flippy thing off the top rope. I wouldn't have been laying there underneath that thing.
Starting point is 02:42:46 There was not very much margin for error at all. But I don't think Rea Ripley has to watch out for anything unless Stephanie Vacur suddenly learns how to fucking act like a movie star and cut a goddamn incredible promo. Because this is wrestling. We need to want to see you fight, not just go out and hop around. Everybody's doing that these days.
Starting point is 02:43:13 but that was my summation of, I'm sorry. Really good match, really good match. I'm sure it was. Why do I care? I'll tell you what I cared about the next match, because that was the one, and that's where they made the mistake in, go ahead. I was going to say, I'll tell you what, I think more people cared about Stephanie Vicaro versus E.O. Sky
Starting point is 02:43:42 than cared about Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre on this card. I think you're correct in the way that it was, it came across on television. That's why I think they should have put Cody and Drew before the mixed tag because it was a letdown. It was, it's not they don't like Cody and it's not that Drew's not a star. There wasn't that big of a pressing issue between them that they've been working on and building up lately.
Starting point is 02:44:14 But while there was nothing to matter with the match, it couldn't match the mixed tag. That's what they came to see. They knew the Sina and Lester was already done, and now the mixed tag, and they're fucking tired, and here comes this match, and they're going to be polite. But that's what it was. It was a polite response.
Starting point is 02:44:33 Mixed tag should have gone on last. Well, speaking of which, Jim, the big match, I would say the biggest match on the show, no disrespect to Brock and Sina, but I think this is the match that the show kind of felt like it was built around. the return of AJ lead to the ring as part of this intergender tag team feud
Starting point is 02:44:54 amongst couples. Where's Chuck Woolery when you need them? Well, what about, not Chuck Woolery, but who was it? Jim Lang, the host of the dating game. Now, Seth and Becky came out, they were lowered on a platform in purple spaceman outfits.
Starting point is 02:45:14 And again, remember what I said. Now that Becky is with Seth, Heyman doesn't need to go out twice tonight. Hayman can concentrate on the bronze and Seth has somebody. In singles matches, I think it would be good if Becky goes with Seth. They can all talk together.
Starting point is 02:45:34 They can be in group interviews, but this breaks it up a little bit and establishes subgroups within the whole collective. anyway they got them chant and see them punk and then suddenly
Starting point is 02:45:52 oh acmusilini and AJ Lee oh see that works there I mean it could have worked I don't know what you did well as a punk came out it's clobbering time and they faded into AJ Lee's music
Starting point is 02:46:11 and got a big pop and as much as I like cult of personality. I guess it does fit better for her to fucking light it up or whatever it is. Is that a real pop group or is that some Jim Johnston concoction from years ago?
Starting point is 02:46:29 Do we know this? It may be the post Jim Johnston period. I don't know. It sounds AI, but it's before AI. I don't know what it is, but it was the right movie. You know, also punk, when he came out of his jacket, said AJ's husband, I think.
Starting point is 02:46:41 Yes. So it's a little better. It's her return match. And that's the thing is that these people are smart. They're smart to the business. They know what the fuck they're doing. What did I say beforehand? I said the people ain't going to want to see AJ and Becky start hip toss, drop down,
Starting point is 02:47:01 arm drag, wrestling stuff. They want to see them fight. And they also milked it from the start because people want to see the women fight. So milk it as long as you can. Don't let them in together. The baby-faced girl would want the heel girl, but the heel don't want any of it. And there's cheap shots and taunting and running and tagging, and you build the anticipation. And in Seth and Punk can do the spots around it and react and have the match that leads to the
Starting point is 02:47:39 brief milking of the interaction. and for a while punk worked on Seth and he established the axe handles off the top rope and everything and then they cut fucking punk off with Becky shot the knee in the back
Starting point is 02:48:00 and they got some heat on punk and they took their time because they were taking they were having a smart match that built and was laid out Becky would get the cheap shots punk was milking the tag he's got to get to anyway do you think about he's trying to tag this 110 pound girl but that would save him because they're telling his story and Seth kept blocking him and then they did a false tag a false tag is the terminology where the baby faces actually do tag but it's behind
Starting point is 02:48:32 the referee's back and the referee doesn't see it so he turns around and puts a j out while the heels get their heat from behind. This is wrestling 101. And then finally, Seth went for a dive in the corner, but he missed it. And Punk went for the tag, but Becky had pulled AJ off the apron, so they get more heat on Punk.
Starting point is 02:49:00 They're really milking this thing. And finally, Seth is skipping around like AJ, trying to mocking her and he skips right into a go to sleep but punk can't cover because he's had the shit kicked out of him. He goes for the tag. Becky tried to stop it, but they make the tag.
Starting point is 02:49:23 And now the girls are in and AJ hits the Thess Press and the punches and they have a fight. And she kicks the shit out of Becky Lynch. Her punches in the corner need some work. But it's been 10 years. maybe there's a little rust there. And they have the
Starting point is 02:49:41 cross body and the two counts, the big slap fight. And then AJ turns around and slap set. And DDT's Becky and they double team Becky. And then now it's kicking up a notch. Now
Starting point is 02:49:59 this is what they built for and the people came to see this. Boom, they're giving it to them. But it's not preposterous. They're not just kicking out of goddamn sledgehammer shots to the fucking head. Punk and AJ both
Starting point is 02:50:16 did the Bulldogs. And then AJ got her hold what is the black widow and punk got his sharpshooter. And then AJ got a black widow on Seth and got a big pop. And then Becky
Starting point is 02:50:32 suplexed AJ and the heels hit twin pedigrees. they really they kept this thing fucking going where it made sense there was no there was a little interaction with the girls and the guys not the distasteful kind but it wasn't like unnatural where everybody was standing around try to figure out what they should do because they'd backed themselves into a corner and at one point you know punk gave the stomp to Seth. But then later on, Becky got a sharpshooter on Punk. But then punk rolled through and started to get her. It wasn't like a domestic dispute, but you're reversing a hold on a woman.
Starting point is 02:51:24 But Seth came in with a pedigree and a stomp, and AJ made a save. And again, then they got in the middle of had a four-way hockey fight, and the baby faces cleared the announced desks off. and punk was going for a GTS standing on the desk on Seth, but Becky threw AJ into punk, and they took a hell of a bump on the desk, with it all falling and collapsing. And finally, that left the girls to get back in the ring. Becky went for the manhandle slam,
Starting point is 02:51:59 but AJ spun around her into the Black Widow thing, and Becky tapped, which is the only, finished they could have done for this match. I'm not saying she had a tap, but she had to beat her. And people were going crazy for this shit. It made sense. It told a story.
Starting point is 02:52:19 The people involved were over. The issue was personal and the people understood it. This is fucking wrestling. Why is it so hard to understand? I yield the floor. It was all right. You know, again, I haven't been. It was okay, dog.
Starting point is 02:52:39 been really into this whole, you know, thing for a variety of reasons, but I thought it was all right. Compared to what else we're watching now? Well, that, I mean, compared to now, I'm comparing it to, you know, ever, but... You can't do that no more, because ever is a very long time. What I didn't like was just the stuff of, like, punk selling for Becky. I get that it, like, you know, equals, you know, what, you know, is going on there or whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:53:05 Well, but it was plausible if she wasn't picking him up in vertical suplexing him. I don't think it's plausible that she could hold him in a sharpshooter or whatever. I personally don't think that's plausible. So that's my biggest complaints. I gotta tell you. You think Becky Lynch could hold him in a sharpshooter
Starting point is 02:53:25 if he was trying to force his way out? With the right technique and having got it and got it good, I'm just wondering if, if, well, not like she had it in this matter, But if you got it for a shoot, got it good, leaned back on it, I'm wondering. I don't think she could.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Natty, Knightheart, maybe. But I don't think Becky Lynch could. So to me, that, that suspended this belief a little too much. AJ, the move she did. Well, that's why he rolled through and reversed it. The move AJ was doing at least works because it looks like something that, yeah, that could be a bit of a pain of the ass. And she's small enough that, like, it's hard to reach around and do anything.
Starting point is 02:54:06 Where the fuck is you? You know what I mean? Like that, at least is plausible. But the Becky Lynch, uh, doing stuff to play. his cat off my back. Yeah. Well, anyway. Where do you think they go from here?
Starting point is 02:54:16 I'm sorry, Mr. Brian Hart, master of the sharpshooter. See, here's the thing. If you apply a number of these holes as a shoot and in no way attempt to take care of a son of a bitch that you've got it on,
Starting point is 02:54:34 there's some of these holes that once you've got them, even a stronger motherfucker can't get out of. I don't know just because of the the torque that you could legitimately power out of something like that if somebody was setting all the way out on it or all the way back on it.
Starting point is 02:54:52 And again, we're talking about a sharp shoot. I've never been in a sharp, a shoot, shup, a shup, hula hoop. I've never been in a shoot sharp shooter. And we're talking a sharp shooter, not an Indian death lock or something. We're talking to sharpshooter. Oh, no, you get the Indian death lock, you're fucked. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:08 Yeah. Everyone knows that. That's why they used to put that on. the old folks out on a tree out in the woods to kill them. That was what Gordon Soli would say. Have you never heard that story? I don't know that story, no.
Starting point is 02:55:24 Oh, goddamn. Folks, the Indian death lock used to be a finish in wrestling, and there is some, again, element of shoot in it in terms of when you get this hold on, if you didn't want it to be broken, the person that let you put it on would then have a hard time kind of getting out of it because you tie your leg up or their
Starting point is 02:55:46 legs around your leg with the toe hooked and all this shit. But the story in wrestling in the 60s and 70s was that the Indians would take the older infirm members of their tribe out in the woods and put the Indian death lock on them, put their legs around a tree in the Indian death lock so they couldn't escape and they'd stay in the forest and die basically because they were trying to make these goddamn indians out to be big heels but that was the supposedly the thing this hold was so inescapable that you could just take and put the hold on a person around a tree trunk and they wouldn't be able to get away so how is it how they're going to be able to get loose when it's your leg in the middle of their legs and you won't let them
Starting point is 02:56:37 escape are you just humoring me now no i'm with listening to this explanation. Listening intently. Yes. I had to teach Alan Iron Eagle. Do you remember him, Joe Gomez? Oh, yeah, yeah. I had to teach him the Indian death lock.
Starting point is 02:56:54 They brought him into WCW. I was one of Oli's hiring all the cheap guys. He was working in Florida. I guess Joe Gomez, one would indicate he was Hispanic. But they changed his name to Alan Iron Eagle and made him an Indian, said use the Indian death lock as a finish. And nobody in the guy. damn locker room except me knew the Indian death lock.
Starting point is 02:57:16 So I had to teach the Indian before he went out to win the match with it, how to do the Indian death lock. I just saw his name somewhere. It may have been the observer for some reason. And I mentioned that he was very close with Rick Flair. And I was like, oh, I never knew that. I think he died. That's why they mentioned him. Oh. Well, rest in peace. Now you feel bad, don't you? I feel awful. Now I feel awful. See, I let him down the, I started him on the road to
Starting point is 02:57:42 ruined because I heard him with the Indian death lock and it contributed many years later to his debt. All right, well, I guess my point is I don't think Becky Lynch could get Alan Iron Eagle and the Sharpshirt Reader. It's the point of it. But that was the main event of the show
Starting point is 02:57:58 and I guess that's the problem. But we still had more. There was still more after the match that was the match for the show. Before we get to the match that went on last, all of a sudden they get a big wide shot of the arena and we hear
Starting point is 02:58:15 bong the Undertaker's gong and oh okay this will be cool and then that's all we heard of the Undertaker's Gong then it kicked into that rotten American badass music and here came the Great Value Undertaker the motorcycle riding version instead of the dead man version
Starting point is 02:58:39 out on his motorcycle with his do-rag, and he rode to ringside where it just so happened, Brian, completely by random chance. Stephanie McMahon and Nick Kahn were sitting in the front row of ringside, totally unaware that this was going to take place. An undertaker climbed over the rail
Starting point is 02:59:07 and took a microphone and sat down next to her and started interviewing her. And they started trying to, it wasn't a comedy routine. Would you term it more they were trying to do witty repartee or snappy patter back and forth with each other? Would that be kind of the description?
Starting point is 02:59:29 In between some awkward long periods of time where he's just standing in front of her and she's just clapping at him. Yes. While he's standing there with the microphone, you're waiting for anything to happen. is a little awkward, it wasn't funny, and it was not smooth,
Starting point is 02:59:46 and as they did mention, they've been friends for years and years, so one would have thought they could have worked something a little bit better out to fill 45 seconds. But anyway, then he announces, are you ready? The first member of the 2026 W.W.E. Hall of Fame
Starting point is 03:00:07 will be none other than Stephanie McMan. And she was overcome with the emotion to hear this, that she had no idea was coming. She just happened to be sitting there on a front row like she usually does.
Starting point is 03:00:23 They've never announced it in September before, ever. It's WrestleMania. Usually in April. Usually in March, we're still trying to guess who the last people are going to be. They don't call people till Christmas when I presented for the Rock and Roll Express. It was Christmas
Starting point is 03:00:42 week that any of us knew about it. But there is no business reason why, oh my God, I was completely uninterested in the Hall of Fame next year now, but holy shit, now that
Starting point is 03:01:00 they've announced Stephanie's going to be in it, it's changed my whole outlook. To announce it six, seven months in advance to that it's Stephanie. And again, a lot of pony winning going on around here. What do you know who won the pony? I guess what I'm saying is they can't really say that it was a big thing like on our wrestle-palooza first ESPN show,
Starting point is 03:01:28 we wanted to announce that Randy Orton or Steve Austin or McFa, a major name past or present, Stephanie McMahon. Yeah, weird timing unless they're going to change the date of the day to the Hall of Fame, which they may have to do unless they're going to start flying legends to Saudi Arabia in a couple years. Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. I mean, it's one thing to go to Las Vegas, but you think any of these guys are going to go to Saudi Arabia to get a fucking ring?
Starting point is 03:02:04 And hopefully be able to take it home, but you never really know. You never know. You might have to take the ring and shove it up their ass to get it home. There's been a concerted effort. If you like Stephanie McMahon or not, you can't deny it. There's been a concerted effort to babyface her on WWE programming and also give her something to do. There was no demand for a Stephanie McMahon podcast. They hyped the shit out of it.
Starting point is 03:02:30 There was no demand for conversations with Stephanie. She just needed something to do. She's been all over this show. We've seen, when I say all over the show, just random appearances like Stephanie McMahon's in the crowd or Stephanie McMannes. man's here all presented as like a way to, let's just give her an applause because it's like they're floating her here and there. You're getting used to seeing her. She's all over the place.
Starting point is 03:02:52 Nobody's got any picket signs. So she's one of the good ones. They're whitewashing members of the McMahon family. Yeah, and she's about to be the first member of the McMahon family next to Vince Senior in the Hall of Fame. I don't even know if Jess McMahon's in the Hall of Fame. I don't have to check. I don't think they did.
Starting point is 03:03:09 And he probably shouldn't be if we're talking about wrestling promoters to be quite honest with you. but it is the WWE Hall of Fame, not the wrestling Hall of Fame. And you said Stephanie needs something to do. Why do you need something to do when you got that much fucking money? Who wants more shit to do? Maybe she doesn't have hobbies. Maybe her whole life has been based around her father and mother's business
Starting point is 03:03:34 that she never developed any skills. Maybe she should take a knitting class. Boy, in that case, then I'd be running off to a fucking South Pacific island where I could hang out next to the coconut trees, buck-ass naked all day, and fucking dittle myself. If I'd have been in that family all these years, just working. Were they known for taking vacations? No. Not Vince.
Starting point is 03:04:00 I didn't keep track of Linda's comings and goings, but no, it was famous Lince, Lince. Lince. Vince. That was their name when they teamed up for Tony Kahn, Lince. No, Linda might go somewhere. I don't fucking know, but Vince was famous. About 10 days at Christmas, when they used to take a break, he would go to his mansion in,
Starting point is 03:04:23 where is it, Fort Lauderdale or that part of Florida, the $12 million place that he spent two weeks a year in, and he'd make phone calls and do paperwork down there. That was his vacation. Again, it's an interesting decision doing this here. I mean, I can't imagine she didn't know something was up. I know they tried to play it off like it was just a gigantic surprise.
Starting point is 03:04:44 Why was she sitting ringside there? As the Undertaker, what did they think the Undertaker was going to do? And Nick Con came over quickly to give her a hug because obviously he was in on the whole thing. He was working security over there too. But yeah, there's definitely a movement to make Stephanie McMahon an asset of the company
Starting point is 03:05:03 and protect her and make her happy. Well, and for all the things she's done to make all of us happy, It's just a small price. And to be quite honest, if we're going based on WWE, I'm not saying she's undeserving. Michelle McCool is undeserving. Stephanie McMahon, if we're talking about big stars on WWE TV,
Starting point is 03:05:23 for good or for bad, she's deserving of being in their Hall of Fame, absolutely. And I agree with you on the McCool comparison. And I also agree with you on in the WWE universe. Yes, she is a level of talent. I think they, I don't think they needed to introduce it or announce it six months ahead of time. And I think they could have done a better job than have Undertaker come out there.
Starting point is 03:05:50 And he's he he's not Phil Donahue. I mean, you know, it's the undertaker. He can't just go and interview random people. So, Stephanie, let me just, it's the undertaker. He's hurting his image when he comes out and acts like a normal person and doesn't have anything interesting. that's, you know, the problem. And by the way, we just got a question on a drive-thru the other day or, yeah, it must have been the drive-thru.
Starting point is 03:06:16 We got a question about is the Undertaker the biggest stooge of all time? And you said no. And then the next time we see him, he's giving Vince McMahon's daughter a Hall of Fame induction. So I swear to God, how the worms have turned. I said, no, he's not a stooge. You just stood up for business and what was right, but he didn't go around telling on people and just fucking saying, yes, sir. And now, yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:36 We got a lot of bad feedback on that one. a lot of fucking people now mad at Undertaker. He's a fucking Stoge. Well, Jim, there was... Speaking of Stooges. This one more match, I didn't say that, but there's one more match to stooge off here on the show, and hopefully our mouths keep working throughout this review.
Starting point is 03:06:55 Well, they put the W.W.E. title match on last between Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre. And, again, it's the big one. It's the big belt, the world title. They should, as a rule of thumb, put it on last. It just, after the mixed tag,
Starting point is 03:07:13 this was not a hot enough issue. And that's another thing. Drew McIntyre is a tremendous heel personality. And he is, what, I don't know if it's been a year now or a year and a half since he came back and gotten a thing with punk and unveiled this new outlook that he's had
Starting point is 03:07:34 and started cutting these brilliant promos. Drew McIntyre is one of my favorite fucking guys in the company. He's awesome. And Cody, of course, has been whenever they'd get off from around his neck, he's been a great success. It just, he, the old gray mare ain't what he used to be based on the way they've treated him, but still he's the star and everybody likes him. And both these guys can work and they're, either their wrestling is tight,
Starting point is 03:08:05 you know, nice and snug, a hip-lock takeover, Cody's selling is. animated. Drew has a heel attitude and body language. They do a stunt every now and then. They'll take a bump over the desk or whatever, but it's not overdone. Their matches are logical, professionally put together. It's just wasn't, it was not a hot
Starting point is 03:08:32 issue that people wanted to react to more than the mixed tag team match was. And that's just because this is not an angle or a program that they've been beaten to death on on TV here lately. They needed a title match for the wrestle paloosa. So they had a good match. And again, you know, they did their various shit. There was a spot at Drew McIntyre ripped the turnbuckle pad off. And then he teased putting Cody into it, but he ended up hitting it.
Starting point is 03:09:06 But I swear to it, I didn't see that. when I was growing up as a wrestling fan because all the turnbuckles in the Tennessee territory were foam rubber with duct tape wrapped around. You couldn't take the pad off. Pads cost money. They used foam rubber and duct tape. But goddamn, there's an epidemic of it, isn't there? How many turnbuckle pads have we seen taken off in the last day? They're now calling it the George Steele position. Anywho Finally, they ended up on the floor
Starting point is 03:09:45 After a number of false finishes And two counts and things of that nature And Drew was going to kick Cody through the front of the desk Like he did Sometime back But the referee got in his way and delayed him And Drew said, fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway But by the time he did, he missed Cody
Starting point is 03:10:04 Put his foot through the fucking front of the desk And hurt his leg and then even though he was able to get back in the ring, he went for the kick, but his leg gave out. And Cody went up top for the big super Cody cutter and then hit the crossroads, one, two, three, without stabbing him in the head with a screwdriver or a pair of scissors or without a ball peen hammer,
Starting point is 03:10:32 without setting him on fire, without a super tombstone pile driver off the top rope through a thumbtack covered table onto the concrete, floor. He hit him with a couple of wrestling finishes and beating. So it's kind of dry. Again. After the previous match, which was the one the fans were really into,
Starting point is 03:10:56 and that went a while too. Yeah. This felt kind of dry. And I almost thought they made do a title change just because otherwise it kind of felt like the match was going nowhere in a sense. Well, no, but it would have been crazy to switch the belt on this match because it wasn't, it wasn't the time. It wasn't, wasn't ready. built wasn't meant to be, but they did everything fine.
Starting point is 03:11:19 But as you said, and as I said, the mixed tag took the oxygen out. But when you compare this three hour and 15 minute show with stars, with a tremendous production, with easily defined roles that everybody's got and with an issue for almost everything, that people could understand, this is why there's. they're there and the AEW show is why they're there. Because they can't get out of the fucking rec center in Reseda or wherever they all used to do their own pro wrestling orangutan shows and just let everybody have as much fun as they wanted to have. I'm not talking about the fans, I'm talking about the participants. And they don't know how to put major league production together.
Starting point is 03:12:16 or they refuse to try to learn. So this is where we're at. We're being raked over the coals for thousands of dollars per ticket by this evil, goddamn multi-billion dollar conglomeration that's set in the world on fire. And the only hope for poor old downtrodden pro wrestling is an ADD-addled billionaire with very specific mental concern. that thinks about wrestling in the smallest and most outlaw of terms and has no eye for talent.
Starting point is 03:12:56 Pick your poison, Brian. Well, speaking of poison, that was W.W.E. WrestleMania wrestle paloosa. And Jim, with that, the drive-through has closed. Where's the other... With that, you can poison Antonio Inoki, so he doesn't have to say that anymore. Hinoki, not Kenoki. Come on. It has to be like a way to get it.
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