Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 223 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Russel Peters Et al.

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Guest list: Micheal Easter, Russel Peters and Joe List 5% of ALL SPONSORSHIP proceeds goes to Justin Wren and his Fight for the Forgotten charity!! This commitment is for now and forever. They will ALWAYS get money as long as we run ads so we appreciate your support too as you listeners are the reason we can do this. Thanks! Stay safe.. Enjoy folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail] Follow Garrett on Instagram here: www.instagram.com/gloveone

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Join us always by my buddy Garrett. How you doing man? What's up guys? How are you happy? What is it Wednesday? It's Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday or Tuesday as we say in England because it's a CH word Pazie really. Yeah, we say we say Tuesday and tuna Yeah, I've been here too long. So I say Tuesday and tuna Yeah, I've been here too long so I say Tuesday and tuna Fun facts fun facts of the kids then so this week we got Michael Easter Do the wrote the comfort book or this comfort book Russell Peters legend and then Joe list who's a comic I know a little bit about, but it was great to have him on, and he's a funny guy, he's a goofball, I like

him. Yeah, he is a good guy, like his delivery, I have a few things to say about him, he's a good guy. Let's jump into Michael Easter though, I knew you would love this one. Garrett, like it's funny in a certain podcast I listen to and I'm already anticipating like how you're gonna talk about them with me. And so this guy writes a book about basically the importance of discomfort and how it kind of will mold you into something better. And also the problems with no discomfort

to being too comfortable. It talks about helicopter parenting, which is an expression we've all heard, but then snowplow parenting. I never, I thought. Helicopter parenting on steroids basically. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting because you got to think who will like the softest people, right? That likes the snowflakes. So if you're a snow plow parent, you're making

that you're plowing through snowflakes. Right, they always, I mean, my brother deals with that frequently here in California. It's like, you, in Joe makes mention on the two, it's like you always want to have the best situation and set up for your kids, but whenever you take away all the comfort or all the discomfort for your kids, you don't allow them to learn anything,

and in that case, they're going to be handicapped. I mean, for lack of a better word and later on in life, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, it's like that old saying, like the hardest thing you've ever experienced is the hardest thing you've ever experienced, right? And it's like for you, if everyone's protected your whole life and then, you know, you've had no discomfort, no adversity, and you get thrown out into the real world. I mean, it's rough. You're not going to be ready. Everything's going to make you sad. You're going to get the press. You're just going to fall apart. Right. Yeah. It's interesting as children to how impactful they are. It's like you, I mean, that's going

to be so detrimental. I don't know, you're bringing in, we've had similar talks about how we were brought up and I was brought up with us. Very, very hard-nosed dad. And I mean, he would say that you could look back on it now and I'm very thankful for it, but at the time, it was rough. But I don't think I would have any other way given the circumstances that I see with other people that are like just handcuffed by having life too easy as a child, and I just assume that's what it's going to be. It can be very detrimental to the future, you know. Yeah, it's often quite easy to spot like spoiled kids, you know? Really, yeah, really easy.

I don't know. I would say, I'd say you're correct. I don't know. I feel like now that I'm later in my 30s, it might be a little bit harder to spot, but it's still there. But I would say that just because a lot of people are age have kids in their own families,

I don't know the dichotomy with their parents and how they interact at this point, but I would say that you're correct in that assumption. But then, you know, the real question is like, okay, if you're saying that because you went through challenges as a kid and it was tough, right, you've become something that you know is beneficial to you. You're stronger because of it. But there wasn't really like,

it wasn't part of a right of passage. It wasn't like your dad thought, and this isn't the saying anything bad about you, that, right? But like with my life, for example, it's like nobody structured these adversities in order to help me in the future. They just happened to be that way, and luckily I didn't get more resentful

from them and I took responsibility for my part as best I could and they have become useful. I'm like, wow, I'm more resilient because of this. What? Without a doubt, what it just provides that, that provides that life perspective, right? Yeah, but, but something Michael was talking to is this like right of passage, right? There's like heroes journey So you know you take like Native American cultures and and some of the guys up here in Boseman that I know Like know some of the tribes and the reservations and things and have like gone through some of their rituals

and There's this crazy one I heard the other day where one that's more normal is you go out into the wilderness and you make like a square, like you pick a spot, you make just like a big square, I don't know what it is, like 10 feet by 10 feet. And you stay in there for three days, you don't leave. Doesn't matter if bears come or you hear weird noises

or whatever, for three days you just have a sleeping bag, you maybe you can make a fire, I think you get some water, but you do nothing else. And this comes from a traditional Native American right of passage for a young teenager. And it's like their way to find themselves and become a man. So it's it's like forced adversity but like in a structured way to create like a more resilient person and we don't have any shit like that really in our culture. It's like we just try to stay away from anything difficult.

Right. I want to just, this is something that you've heard of in Bozeman how big is the square just out of curiosity. I don't know 100% I don't think it's that big. It's not that big. You can't like you can't leave it so it's not like you can run around with doing stuff. You can lay down in it. Oh yeah yeah you don't have to stand up for three days. No it's not like a prison camp. to stand up for three days. No, it's not like a prison camp. Some wild shit. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. They also said, I think he made reference to a tribe that would give you like a spear to go out and go lion hunting or something like that. Oh my life. Didn't he say that? I think so. Yeah. I think so. You go out with the spear and then you either come back or you don't. More or less. Right. Which is what they call the hero's journey. It's like that movie

King Arthur by Guy Richie. Right. Like that's such a great movie. If you haven't seen it, it's with Jude Law. I watched the yesterday. It's fucking great. And it basically he can't spoiler. He can't like hold the a scaliba the sword, ex-scalop, but he can't hold it with both hands because he's like not strong enough. So he needs to go into, I think they call it like the Darklands or something, and he faces all these like, you know, crazy animals and all this monstrous shit, and he like gets over his fear of all this stuff and that's you know like the hero's journey then you come back a man and he's ready to take on the world. Have you seen the count of money crystal by chance? No I haven't. Oh that's my top two movies. I'll check out the one you said. Is it really? I should write that down.

Write that down especially just some outside circumstances that are going on, that would be an amazing movie for you to watch for sure. That's my favorite movie. One of my favorite quotes ever, and even in life is Count Mondegos says he's in this really rough situation. He's already been like in prison for X amount of time for committing a crime that he didn't even commit. He was just framed to do it.

And at this point, when he runs into trouble, he's just like, do your worst. And that's all. It's like, just, I love that quote. Just do your worst. I've already dealt with a bunch of other shit. So come on, bring it on. Like, I'm ready for it.

You'd have to watch the movie to get the context. Yeah, I got to. You do pre- Is it an old movie? It's relatively old No, I mean all I want to say probably in early 2000s. I'll check it out. I'll check it out Sure What if so so what did you think about like the journey that he took which is kind of similar when he went to where do you go at Alaska?

Carabou hunting with that with that guy that's like an outback dude caribou hunting with that guy that's like an outback dude. Right. I mean, I envy that stuff to be honest with you, especially being so, I mean, hands off like I think about how I get my food. I will say, after listening to a lot of these Rogans, when I go to the store now, I literally get in my car and the first thing I say is I just say, God, thank you for giving me this opportunity to go get this food. I know how many other people don't have it that way Like I literally try and be conscious of that thought but even just saying those words are still being disconnected. I get that but I mean Just to get out there in the wild and actually like

You think you got problems with your freaking Wi-Fi connection like go to Alaska for fucking three weeks and survive Yeah, it's certainly gonna change your perspective on a lot of things. I'm sure like getting back and having a hot shower probably feels like everything. Oh yeah, that's it. I think I told you, I'm 58 days in for the first thing I do is they could call shower every day. Now ever since I heard Kamara Usman on there and he talked about his journey, I haven't missed the day. Oh, that's excellent But good work there are hot springs near me in Boseman

I've been going every morning in the weekdays and they have a cold plunge pool and It's a hell of a way to start your day. I'll tell you that much. Oh, it's it's the best thing for you It's your body having to survive to some extent different It's like metabolism speeds up. I just booked a I have a song I was going to tell you about this. I'm not sure if I mentioned this to you off the air, but I just booked a 10 pack of these sauna sessions, these infrared sonas that have a cold plunge in the private room. It was pretty pricey, but as I've I've made reference to it many a time, that was the main thing that I've missed during COVID is the lockdown from the gyms in the sauna. So I can't wait to get back in there.

It's stuff super beneficial, man. It makes a big difference. You know, when you're talking about health and these other things, but it's kind of like, it has aspects of what Michael is talking about. It's like, it's a struggle. You know, surviving the sauna is hard and cold plunges are definitely difficult. And it's like, it's almost like the rest of your day is a bit easier.

I think that's everything. I always have served me that to the gym too. Like, you do the hard, you choose the hardship and then you can make the rest of your life easier. Hmm. Joe brings up his friend, Dan Doty, that was the first guy to ever take him hunting. And he kind of talked about what it was like

for his first kill and all these sorts of things. And Dan Doty is actually the guy that first introduced me to Boseman, where I'm living now. And Lowa. Yeah, because he ran the men's groups. And he mentioned it on Rogan and knew a good friend of mine. So I flew up to meet him. And because I was just fascinated with what he was saying.

And he got me in contact with one of his best friends that he grew up with, that lived in Santa Monica, actually Marine at the L.A., but you know, that's when I set up the men's group down there and pretty much have been in contact with him ever since. But he talks about the wilderness expeditions, which my friend, who's a therapist up here, that's how he met Dan on these. And they would take basically what they do is they take out young kids that have troubled,

like been in a lot of trouble, and they take them into the wilderness, and they like go through, like work with them to kind of, you know, because a lot of them have walls up, they think they're super cool bad ass, like I'm too cool for this, I'm too tough for you, you can't tell me what to do. And slowly over the weeks, they just communicate with them and get to the bottom of like,

why they behave like that, like what they're fighting against and it's really powerful stuff. Oh, it's amazing. I had a similar experience. It wasn't in the wilderness, but I went to Guatemala. I don't want to say my junior year at high school. I went there for 10 days. I raised some money to do it. my junior year of high school. I went there for 10 days. I raised some money to do it. And I remember I had laid the foundation for an orphanage. And I literally just poured concrete for like six days. And then we'd like, hiked up into these villages

and just fed them. I mean, it was a church-based thing, but it was more of a help-based thing first and foremost. I mean, we did like services at night, but we were there to feed them. And like, just try and help them out. You know what I mean? I can't like, that was the most, the most rewarding experiences in my life was those 10 days. I mean, I look back on, I was 16, 17 years old, just pouring concrete all day,

but loving it. You go into those villages, you see one string of lights and a Fisher price, like, you got that probably dates, me people probably don't know what that is, but you see like a Fisher price, like amplifier with a phone. It's like something a kid would have, like to have fun, like singing songs. That's what they used to like talk to the community and then one string of lights throughout the whole community.

And these kids running up and down this mountain with no shoes on with the biggest smiles on their face. And it's like, they just see life differently, you know what I mean? They don't have the iPads and the friggin iPads and all the other stuff. They just have like real life stuff going on. And I mean, I'll never forget that. That was an extremely impactful experience. Well, they're facing real adversity all the time, probably. Just hunger, no money. Right, right. It's probably really difficult. My ear right right. It's probably really difficult.

Absolutely. I liked the the bit that they discussed about that doctor that was making meth for like the health angels to get through college and then became a doctor and then ended up working in like sports rehab, helped the patriots, went on this shit, by kind of changing up strategies using a lot of data. And then created this thing, where what was it like, everyone had to challenge themselves, there's something really difficult. It was like separate from the training. Ever since I've listened to that,

I've done that completely. Like, it's interesting. This is the mindset that these guys put into you. And once I hear that, I loved when he was like, if I could go eight miles, then I could go 16. I could probably do that. But could I do 32? That might be a little rough. And then he's like, I'll try and do 32. And then you realize that your mind just like paint you into this box all the time. Yeah, that sounded fascinating. I wonder, I guess the only way you can know is to test it, but I hate rolling for a long time.

I don't know how good. I wanted, I wanted to touch on this before we got out of this, but the thing that he was talking about, the two human things that we have that most other mammals don't have is the ability to run long distances and the ability to carry our food out with our hands. He's like, it's not sustainable to try and carry food out with your mouth. That's why a lot of these animals don't eat the whole kill, you know what I mean? Right. And I was just kind of intrigued by that. And he was like, when I started just carrying stuff on my back and then doing hikes and whatnot, he was like, when I started just carrying stuff on my back

and then doing hikes and whatnot, he's like, that's a good equalizer that you could do with people that maybe are not as good as shape. He was talking about with his mom, but has such a much impact. And ever since he said that, like I was doing the stairs. And I just started adding weight to the stairs. Oh man, it's a, that's like, I just added it.

It's only 10 pounds, but it's like small percentages already changing. I Oh man, it's a, but it's like, I just added it. It's only 10 pounds, but it's like small percentages are already changing. I can already see it's like crazy. The fact that you could just walk around with weight and that's how humans were supposed to like, I don't want to say stay in shape, but that's just what they did whenever they went and gathered food. You know, I mean, you had the ability to carry it out and that's how people, that is interesting. Well, you know, the seals and like military They're always rocking around and I always just assume that's because they're always carrying packs anyway So they got to get used to it

But maybe it's more than that maybe that is like what are bodies of design for and it could be connected to this like the ultimate way To stay in really good shape. I Think that's totally I think that's totally, I think that's totally, I mean, I don't even wanna say possible, it just is, that's the case. Yeah, let me know how that goes. Like, see if, you know, if it's like a thing you keep up, like, see if you can identify like how it changes,

just I don't know, anything else, like energy, generally, how the stairs feel, probably when you go back and you don't have the weight, the stares won't feel like anything. Oh, it's so easy when I go to those stairs that are the stair climber now, and I go do those without the weights, and then I come home, and I do my manual stairs

with the weights. It's like I look forward to the stair climber now. It's like whenever he said he got, when he got done with that, when he got done with that hunt, and he's like I stepped up, like, I remember him saying that he took off his rock, and he stepped up like 24 inches or something he's like it was like I levitated up there you remember him saying that yeah so I mean it's true story it's like the smallest incremental change can make sense it's like training on a different planet like changing your gravity

absolutely yeah I like it all right let's jump over to Russell Peters. This guy's a legend. Great connection to Joe. He's known him a long time. He gave Joe a watch once, which was a cool gift. And I never heard the whole story about it, but it was cool that they talked about it, just that. He was like, hey, you like my watch?

And just it was just a really Generous I love that you didn't even know he did it. That was the best Park yeah, he probably does stuff like that all the time. I bet he's a super nice guy That's a good spot to be at my People remember stuff like that you don't even make reference to it because that's just the way you are I gotta get r Russ of props on. Yeah, and also to Joe because it wasn't just like a gift. He's like, oh, thanks. And just

puts it away. He's like symbolically wears it for every comedy special. So it has this this big meaning and Russ, what didn't even know about that. I wasn't like Joe told them before. He was just like, this is the thing I do. This is is like my lucky watch and that's what I do with it. I have a funny feeling I just thought of this I didn't think of this prior to the podcast but I bet you that Russell Peters is one of the main guys that he's talking about when I read talks about getting fucked over in divorces just based on the conversation they had and they didn't make reference to that but you know how Joe's always like I got a buddy who's still paying off They didn't make reference to that, but you know how Joe's always like I got a buddy who's still paying off

XYZ and the girl is even worked this time the other I imagine Russell might be part of that oh no No, it's not him. I'll tell you who it is. It's a guy from news radio when he used to be on that It's a dude that used to be in a skit show a Canadian skit show called Um, oh god, am I gonna fuck this up right now? They made a movie called Brain Candy. Kids in the whole life. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's a guy from Kids in the Whole. He came into news radio, I think later in the show,

he kind of like was the boss in the office, but yeah, I'm pretty, I'm almost 100% sure he's the guy that Joe's talking about. They got the divorce and have to pay a fuck ton of money. Gotcha. I think they brought him in after Phil Hartman got killed by his wife. Right, right. Okay. But yeah, he's very funny dude. But yeah, he's getting yeah he's getting he's out of rough time rough time but a lot of people have Russell's a big GJSU guy and even though he's only a blue belt he's been training for some time absolutely loves it is is a bit of a fanatic about it and I think he trains with I mean he's training like all the best people because he can just get access to it.

John, that's a man. Yeah, right. Exactly. But I just love that. I love that. He's so passionate about that sort of thing. Really anyone that I hear that, especially people that are older that are still training like that, I mean mean Russell's not like in great shape He even said that he doesn't really work out. He's not an athlete, but he goes there and he you know He's getting choked out. He's fighting hard and it's I mean, I bet he probably beats me up You know, I don't know. I don't have any I mean, I don't know, but he's got some skills Well, he's yeah, he would beat you up at jujitsu for sure Right for sure. I mean he's done it long he would beat you up at Jiu-Jitsu for sure. Right, right.

For sure. I mean, he's done it long enough. What did you think about that hyperbolic chamber business that Joe's talking about doing? I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Really, that seems a bit extreme, doesn't it? I mean, what, what you're talking about, the telemiers thing?

Yeah, that's right. Lenten and Jiu-Jitsu. I mean, let's, let's be real here. Joe has the best and most efficient and most, I mean, most accredited doctors in his life, I'm sure. And they're not going to sell him up the river. At least it might be, it might not have like the extensive studies done on it,

but I, and they would be telling him that for a reason, you know what I mean? Hmm. I would imagine, I don't, but I they would be telling them that for a reason, you know what I mean? I would imagine, I don't, and I mean he's gonna, I kind of trust this judgment as far as the experiences that he's had. So I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I think anything, whenever you're trying, I mean, we were just talking about the polar plunge and all these things that probably from the outside would just look like, oh, that's uncomfortable, but have a lot of health benefits. side would just look like, oh, that's uncomfortable, but have a lot of health benefits. Yeah, I mean, I'm interested in it. Like, it sounds, it's like lengthening your telomeres is interesting. Like, that's the kind of like the cap on your chromosomes. And it's a, it's a, like a measure of age for sure. I mean, they

don't really know what that means, but as your chromosomes reproduce and you get older the telomeres which are there to kind of protect the integrity of the chromosome like breaks down and I just remember this from my biology classes in college but yeah it's like there seems to be no way to stop that happening at least was what I was taught at the time, you know, five years ago when I was in college. But maybe there's something new. Like who knows? Maybe that's like the magic fucking bullet to play. Potentially.

I keep getting the idea and Joe makes reference to it whenever he lands on and other people it's like, we're right on the cusp of like immortality, right? You can make it through the next 100 years. We might develop something that just allows you to live forever Oh, I don't think we're supposed to I Don't I know we're not supposed to That's the that's the goal. It seems like this the idea. I'm just like not letting life take its course. It's like when it's really super healthy to 100 and then sacrifice yourself to the gods.

Get hit by a car. Be quick, be quick. Right. Joe opened up a lot about the comedy club that he's opening. He's like, I think he's trying to keep it more and more of a secret, but he can't help himself. What do you think that is? Like, who's saying you can't talk about? No, it's just him. He's just like trying to keep it on the DL, you know, not making too

big an issue about it. Well, there's a lot of planning to go into it. And look, it's not like he can't promote the fuck out of it once it's made. He has the biggest platform, you know, ever. Right. But he's, you know, he's just kind of keeping it quiet. Maybe he doesn't want like fans showing up there before it's finished. That sort of thing. And hindsight, it kind of, and the fact that I just said that to kind of builds it up even more of the fact that he's not talking about it.

So when he does start talking about it, it's going to make it that much bigger, right? Yeah. Dude, it's going to Yeah dude it's going to be unbelievable. I mean every comic is going to want to be the one are you going to Austin? Yeah right. I don't know man I don't know I was really considering it when I was in Nashville but if you think about it think how long you would have had to wait like yeah like some of those guys are getting to perform now, but they're, you know, it's like Tony Hinchcliff is performing. That girl that came on, the opens for Joe, like, they were already pretty established comics. There's not, there wasn't going to be like an open mic scene for a long time. So I don't know, I just didn't trust COVID to like pull itself together and continue doing stand-up.

So, I just said to myself, well let's make a different change. I did see some live comedy the other day here. Some, some kind of things from LA came out on a tour and some of the open micers were here. There was some, a major bombing. There was really uncomfortable.

And there was some good open micers, local people that were pretty good, to be honest. And he's got, he's got, go on. He's got to put both, he's got to put both both on the map a little bit too to be honest. I mean, he has a lot of his guests are talking about hunters and whatnot and they always talk about it, but it seems like he's got to be.

Oh yeah, well, Dandoti's from here, Steve Ronella, they're both from Mietita, so they come on and that's how he's seen this place. And yeah, Boseman is, I mean, it's blowing up. It's, there's so much construction here. House prices have gone up like, God knows, 40% in like the last 10 years like it's crazy. It's a nice place. Nice place. But it's not the energy that Austin has and if you're going somewhere to you know create a comedy scene and also have like basically you know city life and a lot of people around

this place is too small. I mean, we've had episodes of this podcast that have been downloaded by higher numbers than the entire population of Bozeman. That's crazy. Yeah, listening to us, Moran's thought. What does that feel like? Do you feel like you're part of a community there? Is it, are you still detached?

What's that kind of vibe? No, it's fine. I mean, Cron Gracie came up here. So now we have an incredible GJSW school and all the guys over there were great. And you bump into them all the time. And it's like that becomes like its own little community. Like everyone's always saying hi because it's like yeah we go do that. And then yeah there's a lot of a lot of that kind of group stuff. Like I go to rock climbing gym, bunch of people there, same thing, like yeah they're just nice people up here so it's very welcoming and friendly.

Oh yeah. Yeah it's a good spot man, good spot. Let's jump over to Joe List. Joe Motherfucking List. Funny guy. Funny guy. Dude's been in a game for a minute, huh? He has, he has. You know what was funny when I was listening to him?

Because I didn't read the thing about him when I started listening and I was just kind of working away. And I'm like, God, this guy sounds like Mark Norma. Who's another guy out of New York? They talk almost exactly the same, even the way that they do their jokes. And they have a podcast together is hilarious. Like I definitely want to listen to some episodes of that.

Don't you get some Neil vibes from him, too? Neil Brennan? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's like a clever thing. I mean, it looks like I'm a little him too. Neil Brown. Yeah. Yeah, he's like a clever thing. I mean, it looks like I'm a little bit too. Oh, he does. I didn't see what he looked like.

Yeah, he looks a lot like, I mean, not, yes, he does. Once you see a picture of him, you're like, all right, I see there's some ones. But such a weird dichotomy to have people that are in such like a, I think a lot of people that are on in the spot, like doubt themselves quite a bit. think a lot of people that are on in the spot like doubt themselves quite a bit, but the amount of references that he like doubts himself during that podcast was like I don't want to say uncomfortable because I get it and people are like one what you like are always

watching what you're saying because you don't want to get canceled these days and you don't want to say something stupid, but the constant reiteration of how big the platform is we've made reference to this too. It's like I realized I'm on the biggest podcast. That was probably the dumbest thing you've ever heard. It's like, let's stop saying that shit over and over again. I guess it might just be what happens whenever you're under the, under the spotlight to say something like that. And it's just like a nervous reaction, but it's a rough go whenever you hear it from my

end. And I hear him be like, that's probably the dumbest thing. And you hear him say like four or five times. And I realize that he's trying to be self deprecating, which is okay. But it's a rough go to like keep reiterating that stuff because it's like, how's Joe supposed to respond to that? Well, I think that some of the people that go on a show are just starting to get popular in their own way. So they are still in the trap of like reading comments, looking at reviews, reading articles

about themselves and you know, any like you could have 10 good reviews, 10 good articles and one bad one and that bad one, we're going to be weak. That's the only thing you think about, yeah. Yeah, so then you go on Rogan and I mean there's gonna be there's probably you know a thousand comments left about this podcast. So he knows that one he's gonna look at him and he's already he's already anticipating what they're gonna look like. I would recommend not ever looking at those things. I've had this conversation with you. I just find it interesting that people take the I almost look at it as like a term of Endearment even if they say something shitty. It's like you took the time to listen to that and then you took the time to write something on top of that

Yeah, I really enjoy the bad reviews that are like really cleverly wooded like they're trying to sound really smart I'm like oh So you were a lump oh, so you're a grumpy asshole and you're intelligent. Well, that's nice to know. I'm glad you could just. Thanks for spending your time on the keys for me. I appreciate it. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I'm too busy. I don't have the time. If I listen to podcasts,

I don't like it. I just don't listen to it again. That's your choice. You know, what are you really trying to do? One of the people, like some people I like it. So just like they, you're the yelper of podcasts. Well, it's you. It's not like, I don't even know how useful it is. Maybe it is, but I kind of feel like, look, when you look at reviews on Amazon and you're buying a product I think it is important to look at that star review because some Things will say that they're good and they garbage and they break all the time That's important to know, but I mean something like a podcast It's like well if you listen to it and it's not something you're interested in then

That it's just something that you are not interested in. But some people probably are, if it exists, I don't really get the value of that. Yeah. Like, I've given plenty of five star reviews to different podcasts that I've listened to. And I've listened to plenty that I didn't care for at all. And we're just kind of boring.

But they don't affect me. He doesn't upset me so much to where, they must come from some sort of like envy and jealousy. Like how dare you have this podcast, and I don't have one. So you'll see what's up. That's what it's all done to. You're like, all right, dude, chill out.

He's made reference to that many times, the people that are making those kind of comments They're not happy in their own lives like the waste energy on some like to talk shit on some other people stuff is just like What kind of life are you leading in order to do something like that? It's probably true. They're probably on miserable Assholes I would imagine right. I couldn't imagine that they're like well-rounded Have a lot of shit going on in their lives and running their lives really well and taking the time because they feel like it's important to

pass on this message that this podcast certainly does not need to be listened to, you know, etc. You're like, I already, okay. I think you I think you hit the nail on the head and that's the cancel culture is in the vast majority of it It's just complete angry people just angry people angry at themselves Just fuck you too. You're shit really I think you hate yourself I think the internet it doesn't matter if you say every single thing politically correct You're still gonna have haters no matter what like I think that's pretty evident. Oh yeah, no doubt. Can you imagine like 30 years from now, like if we're still still running in life, like, you know, a friend's kids or all kids, like pulling up these old episodes and

going, yeah, I can't believe that you said that. I'm like, it was 30 years ago. Dude, there's no way that's gonna be that there's no way that's gonna be the reality in the future because I He makes reference to it in other podcasts, but like whenever you start to start to communicate without having to talk and we can start like seeing intent prior to like language That's gonna like alleviate a lot of the bullshit. You know what I mean? It's gonna suck for salespeople, but once you just realize what intent is and you don't have to have the language that's associated with it, you can just somehow with the neural link or whatever figure out what you meant to say without even saying it, it's gonna like alleviate a lot of the bullshit I think.

Yeah, I hope so. That's actually the number one thing that I like about that idea. And I'd be curious if somebody was super opposed to the idea of Neuralink, because I would be like, what are you worried about us knowing about you? Yeah, you're like, is it that we're gonna find out? Yeah, you're a liar, you're angry, and... You're a fraud. Yeah, exactly. That's what it's gonna come down to. gonna find out yeah you're a liar you're angry and you're a fraud yeah exactly that's what it's gonna come down to I mean those are gonna be the only people that push back

because even Joseph is like I don't give a fuck I'm saying like what I mean it they might rub some people the wrong way but I at the end of the day I'm a good-hearted person I believe that so I don't think yeah I wouldn't care either and it probably would uncover some things about me that Yeah, I wouldn't care either and it probably would uncover some things about me that That are not good and I'd be like oh I'd be open to it. I'd be like, oh, yeah, I do do that sometimes I do right like Well, I'm waiting in line at a Starbucks and someone's taking too long to pick their order I might not say anything to them, but I might think to myself. Well, you fucking up, bro? It's Starbucks. You know what you're doing. I will say that that might be a benefit to reading the comments too, because I'm not

opposed to like constructive criticism, and I will say if I go back and read a comment and I see somebody say something that I could have done better or at least taken a better view on, that could be an opportunity to use that in a good way. To read our comments, There's no constructive criticism. It's just like these guys are morons. I'm like, okay, cool. Sounds good. You know, it's more actually the most constructive ones are the good ones because they actually

sometimes explain a little bit why they like it and that's actually kind of useful. I would be totally up for constructive criticism. Like, hey, this show will be way better if they did X, Y, and Z or the sound sucks, or they talk about the podcast too much, which we're doing right now. You know something, because then I'd be like, oh, well, maybe we shouldn't do that as much.

It's fine. I think so, I mean. We're not exactly professionally trained. Let's be fair. Please, please do that, that people if you have the opportunity We love those comments. Yeah, and then try and write nice ones too if you can if you can find in your heart. I appreciate it What what what did you think about this story when when Joe first got the Austin and he went down the wrong road. What was it like sick avenue or something?

I I always would like to attack him. Yeah, that's always like, that's always, what's the word I'm looking like, scene and setting. And the way he interprets it's too. He's like a skinny little dude. You see him, he looks exactly like Neil. If you're walking down, I don't know if you are a bend to six street. It is pretty, it's pretty intense. It's, I mean, it's Venice Beach, but not with the tents and stuff, but there are some street people around there. And I mean, given the circumstance, if you're new to a city and you're walking down your 150 pound white dude approaching some big dudes walking down the side of the sidewalk

and the way he approached it to, he's like, I just stepped off the sidewalk. It's like, what else are you supposed to fucking do? You know what I mean? And they started calling him like this, sidewalk and the way he approached it to he's like I just stepped off the sidewalk it's like what else he is supposed to fucking do you know what I mean like and they started calling him like this that and the other and it's like obviously he interpreted a certain way but I don't know it's an interesting it's an interesting take on the whole scenario it's like I'm sure from the outsiders that come from what say Missouri and walk down Venice Beach and see what the fuck's going on they got to have a weird they're gonna, they're gonna have a story to tell when they go back to Missouri. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.

So, I mean, it is when it is. That's definitely the CD spot, but I kind of, I don't understand what a man of the people, but I enjoy being in those kind of rugged environments, to be honest. I mean, I don't, I never felt unsafe walking around. Yes, I mean, some of the shit that they're posting online now, but but like you said before they're probably just putting up the worst stuff Absolutely, it's like I never felt in danger like even my old old roommate She was 26 and a girl and if she was like, yeah, I'm just wandering down Venice, you know boardwalk I wouldn't be like mommy mommy to come meet you. Like, I knew that she'd be all right.

It might be. Well, I wouldn't do that at nighttime as a female potentially. I wasn't an idea. I don't think it ever really came up. But I would probably ask her, like, do you feel safe? Like, is it okay? And if she was like, it's cool. Hey, I'm just saying it's not.

I wouldn't be overly worried about it. Yeah, you're not walking through. I mean, I don't even know what Compton's like, but I just think about it back in the day. Yeah, you're not walking through that. I hear you. Yeah, yeah. It's a, they talked about the New York Times article

that said, no reported case ever from people outside getting corona. How angry does that make you? Like look, we can talk all day and be like, look, they didn't know they were doing their best. But I, I think, I think that they would have realized pretty quick that no one was getting it from being outside. No, if, if we don't have to go back and just reiterate, but it's like if everything we've noticed throughout this coronavirus deal has all been for show,

it all has been for show and it's all, I believe that was in the one narrative that he was talking about. It's like they started talking about, they started talking about, give me back on track, there I lost my microphone, I'm sorry. Oh, about COVID and being outside. Oh yeah, even with the mass mandate and being outside, he said, I can't remember, the

stat was under 20% of the people that go in the ocean, get bit by a shark, when in reality it's like 150 people. So it leads you to believe that it is a true statistic but the statistic is so overblown that it just puts it out of perspective you know what I mean. Yeah there was a lot of that happening for sure. Let's not bother. I don't even want to get into the covid shit today. But yeah, that one thing though really kind of stood out. I'm like, holy fuck, we fucked this up. It's just kind of a... I never really felt that way.

I was a part of that community that was just sitting inside thinking that was a reality for me, but I hear you. It back to the one thing Joe Liss kind of referenced at the end and Joe got into it too, is kind of a long Michael East's point of the adversity thing, and the power of bombing on stage is a comic. Like how difficult it is, how much it hurts.

Like every comic has been through it, everyone knows. And it is the thing, even though it's the worst thing you would ever wanna happen to use a comic, it's the thing that makes you better. It's the thing. Now you better. It's the thing. Now it probably drives out, who knows, eight out of 10 comics, probably quit due to multiple nights of bombing

because it's so brutal. But if you survive it, right, and you continue on, then it is the key thing to becoming, like, it's like a bit, it's like the pain, that painful failure. It like makes or breaks you, right? Decide you need to work harder at it or become a quitter.

It like defines how you're gonna move through a lot of things. And I have to say like when it comes to resilience, just in general, even though comedians often are, you know, they're kind of damaged people. Right. A little loopy. They've had some rough times. But man, are they resilient?

Like if you're a comedian that gets to tour and you've really been in the game for a long time, I mean, in a lot of ways, I can't imagine the too many stresses that really could get to you. It's got to be good to be comfortable with that too. I could be in Joe's spot or being Dave's spot or being any of those like, well, well, reversed comics that have dealt with a lot of like hecklers and stuff. They're just like, look at this fucking asshole. They've already know how to deal with it just because they're like once you've grown a few calluses in a backbone, there's got

to be a lot to be said for that just out as in life too, you know? Oh, for sure. And look, it's not just that. It's like the reason they can handle them so well is because they got destroyed by hecklers in the past. They got uncomfortable, they felt terrible, it ruined their set, they got angry, they had to calm down and realize what it was, and then start developing strategies for crushing these people, which is why comics do it. They're like, hey, just so you know, don't do that again. You have a frame of reference to drop on, right? Yeah, I think so I think so

Well, that's it for this week guys. That's the breakdown. We were gonna do Reggie Watts But that was actually from last week so we skipped that one anyway shout out to Reggie Watts Reggie You legend You legend champion of a man. All right. Well, thanks everyone and Yeah, and like Garrett said if you want a writer of you if you hate us Try and make it constructive and if you like us tell us why we really appreciate that stuff We love here from you guys. Okay, okay? From you guys appreciate. Thanks everyone. Have a great week

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