Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Review of MMA 57 TJ Dillashaw

Episode Date: February 3, 2019

TJ is a world champion UFC fighter and recently had a very controversial stoppage loss to Henry Cejudo.  His conversation with Joe was really eye opening to how hard these athletes train and the sacrifices they make in order to be world champs. Enjoy my review folks! Please email me with any suggestions and questions for future Reviews: [e-mail]

Hello there and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. Just got done with a really good podcast MMA 57 TJ Dillishaw. I'm really glad that Joe got TJ on this quickly after his unfortunate defeat just because it was such a talking point. The MMA world, those of you that don't know, I recently had a fight where he went down a weight class to win a second belt in another weight class, the quote unquote, double champ, although the champ champ, and he lost to like an early stoppage in the first round that was pretty controversial. Check out the fight, you can see it. I don't know, there's clips of it, highlights, places, YouTube, whatever. Look at it and get some information.

But he talks about it on this podcast and the conversation with Joe was really good. It gives a really good insight to TJ and his mindset and kind of where his head's at now. So yeah, let's start the review. Welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Review! Where each week I review every single episode of the Joe Rogan Experience. What more do you want? of the Joe Rogan experience. One more do you want? TJ is a hyper competitive guy for sure when it comes to MMA guys. He just, he just has always had that kind of fire

in his eyes ever since. I think I first saw him on the ultimate fighter. He was just the type of guy that just never won the lose you could tell. Not that anyone wants to lose, you know, these fighters are professional athletes in Gungho, they're putting everything on the line, but there's just certain ones of them that that's it, they're going to beat themselves up. If they lose, they're going to take it so hard, they're going to push themselves and train and adjust and improve. And he's certainly improved phenomenally. TJ is just come a hell of a long way. It's fighting against Cody was

and to be able to take the belt from him and beat him twice and then go on to belt from him and beat him twice and then go on to set up this fight at a different weight class. And a lot of this conversation with Joe, he's talking about how he got to that weight, how he was able to care for the cut weight, the type of training that he was doing, how dedicated he was to it. And he was like ripped at that weight. I mean, of course, he was going to be, he looked super tiny. But and his face was like going at that weight. I mean of course he was gonna be, he looked super tiny but and his face was like gone. I mean it was tough but he looked like he had energy, you know.

He didn't look really worn out, he didn't have much of a chance to show what he was capable of in the fight. So basically he was taking some hits, he went down early in the first round. He was a bit rocked because it was a shot behind the ear. But nothing crazy. I didn't think it was all that crazy. I mean it was starting fast. It was a fight starting fast. He dropped to his knees. He kind of got one leg and then before you know it, the ref was just pulling him off and saying he was done and that was the end of the fight. And for it being the first fight on ESPN for UFC and such a big fight in that it was two champions and the potential for one champion to win two belts. It was the kind of thing you just wouldn't expect to be ended that quickly. But again, you're gonna have to check it out, watch the fight, and then you get to listen to TJ talk to Joe about it. TJ's

obviously upset, really upset, and I do think it's somewhat justified. It's not just being a sol-looter loser, though that it does suck, I'm sure. But there's a humility in that, you know, and you can show great strength by saying I accept the decision and blah, blah, blah. But for him now, I think that he doesn't accept it. He wants another go. Pretty much everyone is calling it out that this fight was stopped too soon. Joe said the same thing, I think Dana said it as well. So it was a great shame. It really was that it had to go down that way. And hopefully there'd be another chance

to show what he's made of and come back and do it again. I think it's going to be a great fight if it gets a chance to get going. Who knows, maybe it'll end the same way, right away. I mean, that's entirely possible too. So we just have to say, but like I said, T-Jew is taking it hard. It worked incredibly hard for the cut and the training. And again, they were talking about the champ champ. And that is an expression that really only became common since Connor. Like, Connor has really changed the game in the UFC, and I think that was a great contribution. Now you have multiple people that are champ-champs, Komea as a champ-champ, and you're going to see more of it in the future. You like kind of set the way for it if you will

And yeah, I don't think anybody said that before him that I can remember I'm not sure anyway TJ talks about some of his training methods he used to do a lot of altitude training and a lot of UFC fighters do that athletes all the rest of it. But I think what's happening now and what these researchers and athletes and different scientists, nutritionists, personal trainers are saying is that you can actually do as much work at altitude.

So therefore you can't work your body out as well because you're more tired. And also your body can't recover as well. So there's some major limitations to that. Now I don't know all the ins and outs of what that means really for an athlete. TJ explains it a lot better than I'm bumbling to do, but obviously, you know, he's a professional athlete. He knows these things. But it's, I like that it's changing. I like that these things are constantly evolving. Like that was the big way of thinking, the big way of training everyone goes to altitude for their camps, et cetera. And then, you know, now things are changing because that necessarily isn't the best way. He does say uses some sort of mask that restricts his breathing and that is supposed to help him breathe better. Not what he's got it on obviously. It's very difficult to breathe but it's

supposed to mimic when he's running out of oxygen and having a work harder just in his lung capacity or the rest of it. He did say he was using some kind of device that any passed out doing it. So with caution, use those obviously, read the instructions. I can't imagine ever training hard enough for where I would want to wear some sort of device that gets in the way of my breathing like that. but hey, if you want to be a war or champ, you've got to do some extreme things. That is for sure. And also Joe was saying to be the best fighter, to be the greatest UFC guy, you almost have to be a little bit crazy and crazy and not unstable but crazy in the sense of like crazy to win

you know crazy fearful of losing you've got to have just the most unbelievable drive and I would imagine like being really good at anything massive support a huge sacrifice across the board like you can't do normal things for the most part like training never stops You've always got your eye on it. That's why I'm not surprised to hear so many UFC guys MMA guys now, you know, I mean they're really Eating and training and living like like professional athletes for more different kinds of sports You know, it's not uncommon to hear that somebody doesn't drink, you know, somebody doesn't, you know, they only eat the very best food all the time. They only go to the very best gyms in the most

advanced setups. It makes sense because if you are willing to make that sacrifice, someone else will and that might be the edge that they need to kind of kick you out and and get in there and The reason I mean it sounds obvious, right? It sounds obvious that they would be like this but I think what I like about hearing T.J. on this podcast is that You're really hearing the evolution of these fighters because if you remember back to the original ultimate fighter seasons like one, two, and three people were getting hammered in that house. Like most of the guys going into fight had drinking problems. Chris Liebenit was a perfect example.

I think he was like absolutely smashed on his season. That was season one I believe. Multiple other seasons have been like that. Fights in the house, just people being a mess, not necessarily eating right, not cutting weight right. I mean, the sport is just evolved to a whole nother level. Nowadays, you know, not only, I don't think they let them have alcohol

in the house anymore, but they're behaving themselves. They're living a lot differently. And they're emulating guys like TJ who are champs Living this way training this precisely Because in order to be a champ to be you got to emulate those guys. You got to do what they're doing TJ uses a Garage of his trainer who's also a calculus teacher and a very smart dude but it helps TJ out and other guys so they just squish everything into this garage that they use which is unusual.

You know, you'd think that they would go to a much larger gym and set up but it's about the community you're with and people that know what they're doing and helping train. And this, the guy that trains TJ is like a numbers guy, obviously, he's a calculus teacher. But he's all about taking tests, you know, heart rate, blood levels, all this and scheduling the training and the eating all based on that. So it's a very kind of scientific set up. I think Joe wants to have this guy on. I don't know if he'd go on Joe's podcast, but it would be really cool to hear just his set up and his, how he

does everything. Just because it's fascinating, I mean, not like I'm ever going to train like that, but who knows, sometimes you pick up little hints of knowledge and you're like, oh, cool, I could try that or maybe I'll get a, you know, exercise bike or maybe that's a really good way for keeping your endurance up or whatever. And towards the end of the podcast, some takeaways that I had that I liked from it. And I think I might start doing a bit of a takeaway segment at the end, just like an overall recap of really the best things that I got from the podcast. It's just how he, T.J. recovers what he's using. So he hasn't used cryo, but he did go with Joe after the podcast.

If you follow him on Instagram, you will saw that. Love cryo. Doesn't really mess with the ice baths. He thinks they're too cold but cryo I think is going to be on his list. He does some red light therapy which is supposed to remove toxins and also create a bit of infrared sauna kind of setup. Float tanks are something he uses. Float tanks are something I use. Obviously Joe loves them, he's the reason pretty much everyone does them, but float tanks are something to really help him. TJ slow his mind down and keep himself calm. I think that they're brilliant and I think it's great that he's using it. Also a lot of massage therapy going in for tons of massage,

keep those muscles working massage. When you go to a good person that really knows the body, is an excellent thing for recovery for sure. And also doing some yoga. Yoga is so good for any sports and athletics and keeping your body in shape and just for yourself and for stress. I mean if you don't even have time to work out, probably yoga is the best thing to do. It's pretty chill. It's super painful as well but it's also chill than relaxing. Well that's this episode of the JRE Review. It's a really good conversation if you're an MMA fan of course and you know the controversy but it's also a good conversation if you're looking to just really improve your physical health and you're looking to really grow and better

yourself as a person and if you're on that journey because someone like TJ works so hard and really pushes the limits to be the very best that he can. It kind of, you get a sense of that energy on there. But anyway, guys, thank you for listening. As always, there's going to be a couple more podcasts this week. And that's it. Thanks a lot. Peace. you