Bravo Fan Fest Fallout, Cheating Podcast Couple and why Paris Hilton Ghosted Kim’s book
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01:20Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I had the greatest weekend. I was out in Laquinta with mygirlfriends and my sister celebrating the debut of my new Juicy Scoop song, which you guys, I don't thinkthere's been like any criticism. It's been crazy. Thank you for loving the song. And one of the commentsunder one of the posts that I did was like, I know Heather was joking that she wanted a real housewife song,but this is so much better. It's so catchy. And so I was going to dinner at one of my favoriteplaces in the desert, The Nest. And I said to the owner, I go, you know, I have this,this song out. Just wanted you to know. And she's like, stay till 11, which is kind of late for me.Stay till 11. And I have a special surprise for you. Well, her son, one of her sons, is an accomplished
02:12musician and he plays a saxophone. And we played the song like in the DJ booth. And, and,And I got to take the mic and sing some of the lines.And he did like a saxophone version of it.That is so good.So it's been pretty amazing.I really have had so much fun.And I want to just thank everyone for letting me know that they love it.And when you come to a live show, you will also get this experience.
03:24Okay.I will be singing this song live as well as doing an hour or more of hilarious stand-up.And so will Chris be doing stand-up November 14th in San Diego?Everything is at Heather MacDonald.com.Get your tickets there.Buy it at Heathermictollin.com.For the best deals and everything.And we will see you there.
03:47Get your group together.Get ready to have some fun stuff.And of course, I keep the juiciest scoop and my strongest, snarkest opinions for live shows only.So go there.And then the next date is until after the holidays.and that is an Aspen, January 30th, at the Wheeler Opera House.So get that going.Okay, so there was, besides me singing in Lakeinta, there was some other news that was happening
04:15in the world of pop culture talking Bravo.And they do like a fan fest, like a one-day thing.I think they did it in Miami.Every other year that they don't do BravoCon in Vegas, they've kind of been doing this.So this year it was in Charleston, and it was, you know, great.They didn't just have, like, the Southern Charm people.They had a variety of housewives, not all of them, but some of the Orange County.And I saw Carol Radzwell there.
04:44And there was some juice.There was some snark that came out of it.I mean, that's really what it is.It's like, let's separate the girls.Let's get a variety of the girls there.I saw a little clip with Melissa Borga, and they're like, who are you happy that's not coming back to New Jersey?Jersey. And she very quickly said Jennifer Aden, which is interesting because she is made up withher sister, Teresa, which everybody is happy to do because it was a way for them to stay on the show,
05:14make nice for themselves, mental health-wise, their kids, all of it. And they've been doing allthese interviews together. And they are coming off very believable that they are close.they really have like the same hair, the same hair color that I don't know if it's on purpose,but or they just show up to these things and they're both being like a black halter dress orwhatever. But she said that about Jennifer Aden, who's no longer on the show. But then my nextvideo that came up was Jennifer Aden saying, hey everybody, I'm doing a live event with Teresa,my best friend to promote her third memoir. So who knows? But there's just those little things likethat. So then there was a panel with Andy and I think, again, a variety of housewives from different
06:02franchises. And someone in the audience asked about Bethany Frankel, you know, to Carol. And she's like,well, I haven't talked to her in years. And that's above my pay grade. That would be a question forAndy. And Andy's like, I don't know. I don't know what she's up to. I don't, I'm not on TikTokthat much. And the audience was like, ooh, like he was dissing the fact that she's just aTikTok or whatever. I mean, I just think it was the first thing he came to his head to just notbring attention to their situation. And, well, she went off and, you know, this is kind of funwhen stuff like this happens and everyone benefits from it. And then I have something to talk about.So who cares? So anyway, Bethany was there and she did her video real close up to the face.
06:51And she's like, so I guess Andy's talking about me. So I'm going to.to take the bait, okay? And then basically what she said was, while you're sitting in your samespot being beholden to Bravo to sign your checks, I'm over here killing it on TikTok. And whileyou're living a stainless steel life, we're living the golden life over here. And I'm like,because you basically was like, you fired us all from Bravo.and now the Golden Life girls are killing it over on E,and I'm killing it over on TikTok.I thought there was a little bit of like,
07:34I have said, you guys, I have said,don't be surprised if she does join the Golden Lifeor some type of show like that.Because I think doing the solo thing by herself,doing the TikTok and all that stuff,I think she would like to put down the phoneand be back on TV,even though TV's dead and this and this and
07:56that it's still, it's TV, it's still Bravo, it's still different than being on a, on a app that isgreat. And what I love is that so many people have an opportunity to make money and show theircreativity and show their point of view and all of that. There isn't a big gatekeeper. But it's not as,you know, it's different. You know, if anyone, if everyone can be on it, it's not as special as noteveryone can be on Bravo, whatever. But I don't know what, but also he shouldn't be.be dissing TikTok, but I don't believe he was. I think he was just saying like, hey, I know that'swhere she says all her stuff and gives all her opinions and eats her chicken salad. And there you go.Now, why should he be overly nice to her? The woman tried to get a massive lawsuit going against
08:43Bravo. Reality reckoning, which was going to be her social movement, you know, her politicalsocial movement to get people rallied in the streets to have these women that felt like they weredissed by Bravo or let go or whatever the case to come together in a massive lawsuit againstNBC Universal and Bravo and Peacock and she was at the helm of it. She was the like Sally Field,you know, with the sign union, like all of it, which was all not bad ideas. Like that was good. Butit wasn't good for Bravo. Unless Bravo is like, hey, we want to make this better for you guys.It's something that they would have to conform to and they don't want it. And in it, it was, you know,saying that things had been done wrong to these women. They were forced to drink, whether it's
09:36the Liam McSweeney deal, lawsuit, which is still going. The Nini thing seems to, she seems to havesettled or it's gone away or in that settlement. They're offering her a chance to come back toAtlanta because her legit TV deals with Ryan Murphy, those seem to dry up. And then she was like,I think I was discriminating against. I think I'm going to sue. And it went back and forth. And thenit all just fizzled away. And in the process, she is not in a good place with her one time very goodfriend, Andy Cohen. And so she talks about the stainless steel thing was just her trying to beclever. Like she took a minute and thought about it and wrote it down. You know,First, listen, if he was driving a cyber truck, then that would be a great joke.
10:24Because I've joked that my cyber truck is just like a giant fridge going down the highway.So if she would have said that as like a dig of someone who owns a cyber truck,then I'd be like, all right, whatever.You probably heard me make that joke, but who cares?But it wasn't.It was like she was just trying to think of a thing because of the golden life.And then I'm like, do you want to be on the golden life?Like, are you hoping to get a spot on next season?
10:47So anyway, that was about it.And I'm sure he won't even respond back.So that's it with Bethany.And she is doing fine in life.She lets us know about it.She tells everybody how much she makes.I don't know why you would do that.I think it's kind of tacky.
11:07But she says she makes like 20 million year on TikTok and with brand deals and stuff like that.And if she does, then great.Then great.then why would you even have to respond to it?But I think she's but hurt and she likes to respondand she loved that her Google alert went offwhen she was mentioned on the panel.So, you know, sometimes I'm just thinking like,
11:29now I'm almost thinking at these types of showsbecause this does give you some press when you need it.Listen, you know what I would do if I was Bethanybecause I think she needs it?I would make sure that someone at every one of these eventslike BravoCon or like a big podcast or something where a lot of these housewives are there,like a live show, I would plant a couple of people in there to ask the question aboutmyself, Bethany.
11:59And then I would be able to go, oh, really?You've got to come at this be?You better not miss and act all pissed when in fact she could have just planted someonethere.That would be, okay, you're welcome.You're welcome, Bethany.That'll happen at BravoCon, I'm sure.Okay, they also announced some shows that new shows that were coming.
12:21And one is Small Town Trouble, Texas.And it's like Secret Lives the Hunting Wives, they're young women who all have a husband at this point.We know that'll, you know, if this is a success, half or more will be divorced.But there's also some like underlying like lesbian stuff like secret.Secret Wives of, wait, secret lives of hunting lives. That scripted show is coming back and the girlsare still going down on each other and hunting. So this is sort of like that. And some people are nothappy about it because there's one girl. I am not aware of this person, but she was on Big Brother.And she was called out for saying like horrible, multiple racist things to multiple cast members.
13:09And there's even a video of it going around of Julie Chen Moonvez asking her about these things.So people didn't forget, but maybe that's what they want.They're like, oh, let's bring a canceled, like, racist girl out into this Texas world just to, like, solidify this is what life is like in Texas.I don't know.But maybe it'll be fun, you know, for everybody.But some people were like, I can't believe that you won't bring.back Miami because it is a Latina cast. It has other women from other countries on that cast. It'svery ethnically diverse and it's beautiful to look at. And I thought it was a very entertaining
13:53show. So they're like, wow, well, I'm guessing that show is a lot more expensive than going over tothese girls and finding this one girl that hasn't worked since she was on Big Brother and be like,hey, I heard you're like a little buy or whatever, want to be on this Bravo show? Sure. I mean,I, this is how these things work. So that was one of the new shows. The other new show that washappening is a next gen, New York is next gen Atlanta. And allegedly, this is from realty recap,allegedly Breel Berman, who is Kim, Kim Zolzak Berman's daughter, was supposed to be on that show.Her younger sister is, Ariana, is on the New York one, and everyone loves that girl.And nobody cares that her brother, KJ, is 15 facing the horrible essay accusations and has been arrested and everything.
14:54Everyone's like, don't touch her.We love her.So I think this would be weird that they, maybe not, to have her come on, except if the things that they filmed and things,led to this KJ problem and they just don't want the audience to even go there with their mind.And so therefore, let's not have her in it.Let's not show her scenes.Let's cut her out of it, which I'm sure they have probably something in the contract that they can do that.And it won't happen.
15:25Let's let you get through this with your family and your brother and then you can come back.But no, I don't.So my question is, was she ever part of it?because it sounds like she's not part of it now,but I can understand whyfor sure, why you would not want to draw attention to that.Dustin from Sacred Symbols here,you know when you're in the middle of a heavy recording session,
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17:11and written and directed by Academy Award winner Martin McDonough.See Wild Horse Nine, only in theaters, November 6th.Also, Southern Hospitality, which is a show I've met a bunch of the girls at BravoConthat worked on that show that were really quite lovely.I've never really watched it.I'm sorry, I've never really covered it.But Leva, who was kind of the Lisa Vanderpump of Southern Charm,had her own restaurant and made this show.
17:44And she was supposed to be at the fan fest.And then they canceled her.And now they said the show is coming back for its fifth season,but she won't be part of it.And she's like, I'm moving on to another chapter.That's kind of interesting.If it's her restaurant and everything,maybe she doesn't have to be a part of it.
17:59Maybe she's like, film up my restaurant or, you know,Southern Hospitali doesn't have to be my restaurant.Nobody works her anymore.We're just going to follow the kids like Vanderpump.And they're probably like, oh, my God,I wish we would have thought about this 10 years ago, maybe could we have ever, you know,cut Lisa out?And Lisa was probably way too savvy and made sure that that's never the case.
18:20But this is really interesting that it was her restaurant and everything.So I'm guessing she did a deal in which she really had no ownership of that show, just thatthey filmed there and she was a part of it.And now they're like, goodbye to you, Leva.And I don't watch it, but it doesn't seem like anyone said to see her go.So now, Real Housewives of Osi, it was just, I don't know, they're in Japan.And it was like they all had to dress up like those little like cartoon, like little girls that have like little toys on themselves and like pigtails and bright colored makeup and foofy skirts and big heels.I forgot.
19:00What do they call those girls?Anime girls, like an anime girl.So that's what you want to do when you're over 60 and are awaiting a knee replacement.I mean, are you fucking kidding me?So you know what I would like to see?I would just like to see more housewives like Lisa Barlow that are like, you know what?No, I'm not doing the drag makeup.I'm not.
19:23I have a beautiful makeup artist who will do my makeup the way I like it.I'm not doing anything I don't like.I like that.Like, I'm like, no, this isn't flattering.Like, I don't want to dress up.Like, they also made this cast dress up like showgirls too. Again, two of them are over 60. One isalmost there. And just no, no on any of it. It's dangerous. It's not good to be in stacked high heels.Anyway, so they had to do that. And then they went shopping and nothing has happened in this show.
19:56So then they were like, I'm really concerned that Gina is acting like she's this rich girl now and she's spending all this money.She's in Japan, and they just edited her, like, being excited that, like, a designer handbag was less there than it is here.And it was thinking, oh, maybe I'll get a few things.And then they had to have, like, a financial intervention with her.And listen, you know, some, you can like her or not.But the girl has led a pretty admirable life for being a reality star.You know, she started out in a bad marriage.It got worse.
20:36She had a DV thing happen.She managed to get out of that but still maintain a good co-parenting relationship withthis guy and his new girlfriend.She then got a DUI, has been sober for years, more importantly fixed her horrible hairextensions, and got a real estate license.And then Ben with this guy who also has a contentious divorce with somebody and hasstayed pretty classy about it and managed to co-parent six kids with these people. And I'm justlike, I don't know, you don't have, like, find something wrong with her. I just think the show is
21:15just, they're just, nothing's happening. So there's a rumor that they're going to do what they didwith New Jersey to OC. They're going to keep just like Heather, this is the rumor. They're going tokeep Heather and Tamara and Vicky will be gone and Shannon will be a friend and Gina will stay.Casita Gina they called her because at one time she in her divorce was staying at herpersonal trainers Casita. Okay. And would some people like, that's not a housewife,like whatever, you know, not everyone can be rich and have a husband who's 78 and is cheating onthem. Like, not everybody has that scenario, okay? So then, who else? And then, oh, Emily would begone, allegedly. And they, Andy was on his radio show and he kind of was like, huh, somebody called
22:10and asked about it. He's like, you know what? We're always looking to change things up. Oh,I don't know. I'm sorry. I think that sounds like, I think that's what they're going to goto these older franchises that are not bangers. Like, to me, Beverly Hills has always,a banger. People want to watch that show because it's Beverly Hills, because the women aredynamic, because half of them are actresses. It just is good. With the other shows that willstruggle like New Jersey or OC, I think they are like, look, we'll keep three or four of theOGs as anchors. And then we're going to bring in like four new people, pay them very little,have them be like under 40 and then they can stay on the show for 20 years and go get divorced
22:57and get remarried and talk about having a baby that they have no intention of having a baby withand then go to a stripper class and then take aerial stripping classes and then go on a tripthat nobody wants to go on and then have a costume party and then talk about their kid comingout like that's what we want that's what we're going to get and we're just going togoing to get new people to tell the story. Okay. Well, you guys, you know, I've seen so many clipsnow from old TLC episodes of Kate Plus 8. And it's interesting to see it. It really is sad becausepeople will take his book that's the number one bestseller right now, Colin. And he is one of theeight children, one of the six tuplets, six of the teplets that Kate and John Gossack
23:50had together while their lives were filmed. Very documentary style. The cameras were always there.If some things were like planned out, we're going to go to an escape room. We're going to do this.But the cameras are around all the time. And people are going through and catching moments whereshe is so cruel to Colin and like isolating them from the other kids. And it's, I can't even watchsome of the scenes. It's like so mean. There was an issue with gum. Somebody brought in theAll the little kids got gum.And there was a little bit of gum because he was chewing gum on his like little weird teddy bear that he liked, Colin.And she's getting all mad that she has to get the gum out.
24:32And she's like, yeah, I'm throwing it away.I'm throwing away at your teddy bear.And even some of the other kids are like, Mom, no, that's Colin's favorite toy.And he sleeps with it every day.It's like, no, you need to learn.And it just, oh my God, it's not, it's just so many things like that.And like he was so excited for his Christmas gift.and he got this Lego thing that was a Ferrari.
24:54And then in the book, he's like, after everyone opened their presence and all the wrappingpaper was thrown away, she's like, I'm taking her gifts, Colin, into my room.And we'll see how well you behave and if you ever get them.And he never saw them.Then when he went to, then she put him in an institution, he says she visited him like oncein two years.So now she is responding to, she's going crazy online.people have grabbed some of the things that she has said, this girl, the reality holic
25:27is saying that Kate Gosling is like writing back people in comments because obviously she'sgetting a lot of hate. If you read this book, if you hear her just listening to me, you're going tohate Kate Gosling and most people hate her anyway. But she writes to this person,did your baby ever assault with a weapon, you or his sibling or anyone else beforeduring and after his release. Did he kill animals for fun? No. Okay, fair enough. Maybe then you don'tunderstand. So what this girl's bringing up is like, wow, could this be deemed as like defamationthat you are basically writing in a comment on Instagram or whatever, accusing Colin at one timekilling animals for fun? And it's absolutely a horrible thing to accuse.
26:17a child of. But she at this point is probably like, well, he got to write his book and make meout to be like the worst abusive mother. And I'm going to say what I want to say. And so it's justgotten really weird. But he is, there is going to be a Netflix doc with him and his dad, John,and the other sister, there's older twins that is no longer part of Kate Gawson's life.They're doing some documentary. The book is number one.Hopefully he'll come on here and we can really ask more questions.But it's very sad because, you know, besides being on the show and getting no compensation for it,you wonder, like, was anyone watching that as a cameraman or anything and seeing if he was being isolated or, you know, pulled apart from the other group and being chosen, like the book, a child called it, like where they just take one child out of a lot of children.
27:17and just abuse them.It's a sick psychological thing for the abuser to do.So that's crazy.Also on TLC, remember, they had Josh Duggerd,who's doing like, I don't know how much time for his crimes against kids.And then there was this other boy, Jacob Roloff.He was in big little world, little people, big world,and where he was in a family of little people,
27:45but he was not a little person.And he came out many years laterand accused a person on the crewof abusing him.I tried to look it up to see if that person was everprosecuted or what.But again, like, what is up with this?And it's not just TLC,
28:07because TLC uses different production companies.It's really a production company.But the point is you have all these kidsrunning around being filmed.again, no rules.So Bethany, you know, maybe if she'd gone after helping kids get some type of rights to beingfilmed without their consent, but their parents are the ones that consent for them when it'sa non-union gig and it's not sag after, which is all reality shows.
28:32They have to work.And then if they don't want to, it's like the parents will be like, well, I guess we, youknow, or if they don't want to do videos or whatever for social media, well, I guess we cankiss this house goodbye. I guess we can't go to Hawaii. I guess you can't continue on with hergymnastic classes because you don't want to do an ad that you got your period yesterday. Okay?Really? Really? This is what you get. A little brady teenager. Speaking of Kate Goslin,there was this, oh my God, I will never forget it. I remember where I was. It was the day show.The show was over. Kate Plus 8 was over. And she brought the older twins on the show with her.
29:13I think to spark interest in maybe getting another showor they were promoting like a one-off.And she's like, tell them.And the one girl's like, what?And she goes, tell them what you told me in the carabout blah, blah, blah.And she goes, well, now it seems like you just told them.And she's like, wow, the first times the girls are quiet
29:32when we're here on the Today Show.Great, great job, girls.Like she is so bitchy.It's so uncomfortable.And these girls are only like 15 or 16 at the time.And she's thinking they're going to be like the nextKardashians or let's get them back on TV. And it's just terrible. So that is all very interesting.All right. The next door I have is podcast drama. And this is a show I've never watched an entire
29:58episode of. Okay. So I'm going to do my best. But the point is it's fucking juicy. So here we go.There's a show called H3. I don't know why they call it H3, but they do. And it was very,very successful. And at one time, it was like frenemies or something. Trisha Paitis, who is a doll,mother of three, and a very successful creator. She's been on YouTube for like 20 years.She was on it. Now, what's interesting about her is when she was on it with this guy, Ethan,who's like the host of it, he has a wife. And there's a clip going around where she says,are you ever bummed that like, you know, you're married now and you can't like pull in a bunch of girlsthat you could if you were like this famous but not married.
30:42You know, he's like, no, I'm very happily married.I'm just saying you'd strike me as a kind of guy that had this fame come and you were single.You'd probably really, really enjoy it.So, anyway, he's on the show with his wife.And a lot of people that they bring in to work for them are fans of the show.And they bring in this other girl who is a fan of the show.And she starts working on it.And like these shows that have several people working on it, they throw them in for
31:08content. They have moments. They do things together as a group. So the wife announced, I'm leaving myhusband. He's been cheating on me for six months. She doesn't say with who, but the fans believe it'sthis girl that kind of looks like the wife and is like just a younger version of her. The other wifeisn't old. And he, they have announced that he's like, I'm going to give her everything was onething I saw to his wife. And so people are speculating, oh my God, is there a baby on the way?Why would you be so apt to give everything to your wife? Is it because you don't want to havemoney for the next chick who might be having your baby? Who is this affair? Like, why wouldyou suddenly fold like that? Because you had an affair. The show is off indefinitely. So he's just
31:57like taking a big break from it. And then there's this other podcast that I covered a while agowhere there were these three guys called the try guys.And one of them was caught also having an affair with a girl that started working on the show.And they got rid of him.And this was like a big show with a lot of YouTube followers and stuff.And they got rid of them because it's like, oh my gosh, you know, we just ethically, like,it's just so uncomfortable that one of the three of us was like cheating on his wife.And in that time, Ned was a cheater of that.
32:37And this guy from the first jury, the H3 podcast, he took many episodes being highly critical of Ned cheating on his wife.So now Ned is like, huh, guess you don't like it.Guess you don't like it when you're cheating on your wife.And everyone finds out about it.And people are talking about you that you're a piece of shit.you don't enjoy that.So there you go.Listen, I'm sure
33:06the fans will follow themor maybe not. That's the thing.You go off the air for a few months.These H3 fansmight find some other peopleand be like,I don't even listen to that show anymore.So when he comes back
33:21with the new girlfriendwho might have been the personworking for him or notand starts to reestablishsome little thing,then willthat audience still be there? Or, you know, maybe they just maybe they're like, wow, this reallytook a turn for the worst. It's very interesting because the podcast world, as you know, people get so
33:42addicted to listening to their people and just Howard Stern was the first person that did it withhis crew and every day you listen to it. And then you're like, oh my God, this was going on.This is crazy. And that's basically has happened now to several of these podcasts.And an element is the guy starts cheating with some fan that's then working on the show.So that should be a big lesson to everybody.No matter how big or small of a quote unquote creator you are in this space,beware of the fan that wants to work for you.You know, maybe seek out someone that just knows how to do the job that you need.
34:27And maybe they'll become a fan because you're such a great boss.But maybe being the fan and then working for you is a little too close for comfort for everybody.Unlock on limited free grocery delivery with PC Express Pass.Shop online and get the same low, no frills prices delivered.Get your first year of PC Express Pass for just $2.50 a month.Learn more at no frills.ca.I'm Darman.And this is what happens next.
34:54Each week on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who have faced tremendous setbacks.And yet somehow have found a way to turn them into their greatest strengths.Life is one long lesson of chaos.I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.When your free will was about to be taken from you, what would you do if it was given back?Where did that need come from where you thought that you had to succeed in order to feel loved?He said, I have a work dad. I need a home dad.What happens next?
35:24When I came in, he started crying.Everybody in life encounters hardships.What defines them is not those hard moments that they go through.It's about what happens next.I decided to risk it all.I realized how valuable every day was.You're worth the work.Listen, Dar, I'm not going to pull punches.
35:41You can use your voice even if it's shaped.The stories are different, but the impact is the same.Only one question matters.What happens next?Some breaking breakup news just happened.Chris L, well known for being on.selling sunset and you know she's quite the influencer she's really attractive she and her partnerwho goes by g and that person is a woman but is a non-binary woman so she uses they them pronouns so
36:23i like oh my god this is going to be too hard to do anyway they broke up they broke up and they weremarried chryshell did marry jeand she just did a very heartfelt, very sad confession to her cell phone on Instagram in her absolutelystudying closet stating that they were no longer going to be together and that she never wantsto do this again because she was married when we first were introduced to her on Selling Sunset.She was married to an actor in the hit show, This Is Us.and they ended up getting divorced.And, you know, she was, you know, a realtor.
37:10I don't know if she was a realtor before.If someone knew through her very popular actor husband,if they knew that the show was coming and they wanted to, like,bring in a person that had some Hollywood ties.But she is, I think, for sure, realtor.But she's left the show.She's had issues with the other girls.She's left and she's come back.
37:30same with Christine Quinn. She's left and now she's back. Then she was dating one of the twins,the tiny twins that run the selling sunset offices. She was, they were boyfriend and girlfriend.She and Jason, which was weird because they worked together for a long time, met when she was married,and then they were a couple. Then they broke up and then she found herself being in a queerrelationship and seemed very, very happy. And G is an Australian singer, musician and all of that.So lots of travel and everything. But it didn't work out and they broke up. But, you know,we'll see who she dates next. Sounds like she might not want to date anyone for a while, but she's,you know, dealing with it. People Magazine just did an exclusive interview with
38:25Jen Shaw. Jen Shaw from Real House as of Salt Lake City, who had one of the greatest momentsever for us as viewers, not for herself. The worst moment of her life was caught on tape when the FBIwent to the sprinter van, Sprinter van, outside of Heather Gay's beauty lab in which they were allgetting into Sprinter van to go and go on some trip or day trip, whatever. And all the camerasthere and they're all filming there and the FBI came and they said, where is Jen Shaw? And everyonefreaked out and they realized that this business that she had bragged about that really turnedme off to her character, her person, it's not a character, they're playing themselves for the firstcouple of years was the result of being extremely fraudulent and stealing money from vulnerable
39:21people in society, mostly the elderly, in convincing them that we can help you have your own onlinebusiness. We will teach you how to do it. And this is how you make money. And it was this whole biglong scam. And then they'd resell this is a good target you can scam again. They would resell it toanother company. And then that person would be like, hi, we're heard you're in credit card debt fromtrying to start your online business. We, if you just pay us a little money, we'll help you getout of that and then they'd scam them and then that person would take him and then scam them again.And it was, she was the ringleader of it yet she acted like she was a marketing genius calling it alead generation. Yeah, the leads that you're generating were finding vulnerable people and then
40:09selling them so other scammers can have them. So, oh, by the way, there's a really goodnew show on that I have to watch called Super Scam Me, where this journalist,it's almost like to catch a predator, but it's like to catch a love bomber.And she like kind of puts on like a mousy wig and like some glasses and has these guysinstantly act like they're super into her sending her flowers and everything.And then it starts with, okay, I need Bitcoin.And then I need something else.And then they get scammed.
40:46And I'm like, oh, I wish I would have thought of that.I wish I would have gone down that route.That would have been a good time for me.But anyway, this scammer, she ends up in the prison with Elizabeth Holmes.One drop.Why would you think that I would deceive you?I'm completely telling the truth.I'm totally transparent.
41:04You could see everything.Anyway, they, she is now out, Jen Shaw.Her sentence was like cut in half.And supposedly Elizabeth Holmes is getting out and going to a halfway house soon.And the clip that they changed.shows. It's like, I'm guessing the interview wasn't really that interesting because I just watchedthe clip that people magazine shows. And it's Jen Shaw who looks great. She looks healthy and,you know, she's an attractive woman saying how she and Lizzie were good friends. So now she calls
41:38her Lizzie, which I thought is interesting because we were introduced to her as Elizabeth Holmes.In the movie, the documentary, you could see everything. Her partner, um, husband,part he's on her husband. Her husband, Billy Evans, calls her Liz. Is like, Liz needs to know.And then in the prison, she's Lizzie. I don't know. I think that also says something that she's justobviously she changed her voice and her personality, which is completely different when youwatch the old clips when she's talking about Theranos versus, you know, in the, in the documentary.So, still so fascinating.But anyway, she said they were on poop duty together.
42:27Then she went on to explain what the poop duty was and it was like, girl, this is such a long explanation.Basically, they just have to keep their bathroom clean.And if it doesn't stay clean, then they have to clean it.Okay.And it's interesting to bring up Jen Shaw because at the Bravo fan fest in Charleston this weekend,Heather Gay from Real House of Salt Lake City was.there and someone or somehow was brought up the black guy. This is a story where she woke up inSan Diego, Heather Gaye with a black guy and insinuated and said that it was Jen Shaw. But then she
43:04was like, I don't know where I got it. And people thought she was insinuating that maybe someoneon the crew could have given it to or weren't following the safety protocols. I always said,I think she got fucking wasted. I think she got up in the middle of night to go to thebathroom or do something and like fell and then went back into bed and did not even realize it and woke upwith a black guy. That is what I've always thought happened. She wrote about it in her second bookand now she's rewriting history again and saying, I don't know if Jen Shaw gave me the black guy or not.We're going to have to talk about it because she's like, we'll do anything for publicity and to keepthe show going. And now will Jen Shaw come back on Real House as a Salt Lake City? If they're going to
43:46bring back Teresa, if they're going to bring other people that did prison time,except that her crime was really fucking over vulnerable people.It wasn't, I was dumb and my husband told me to sign this piece of paper and I'm still a really good mom.It was different.But again, there's no particular rules that apply for Bravo.It's based on an individual person's basis.So what goes for one person won't go for the other.And I think we know that.
44:13Okay, Tom Brady is dating Handis Swanapole.She's some gorgeous perfect specimen model.And I don't know.Is it surprising?No.But, I mean, how old is Tom Brady?Like, really?You have to, I mean, he was dating Alex Earl.
44:37And at one time, I thought he was dating Kim Kardashian or with that.They were just chatting, I think.I wasn't really serious.But they're dating.And Kim's book, Citizen Kim, is coming out.And this guy, Jonathan Van Meter, wrote it.And I read a long article that was written about this book coming out in the Hollywoodreporter.
45:01And how they got connected was like four years ago he wrote about her in like Voguemagazine or something.And she immediately reached out to the middle of the night and said, I have neverhad someone understand me so well, like, thank you for the article. And then he was like,would you do a, it's a authorized autobiography, meaning he did work with her. So there are things that,you know, could be cut out or whatever, but it's his observation. He's writing the book.But still, she had final say. So she still read through every page and said certain,and like, oh, I don't know if I love this or I like this.
45:45And one of the things that popped out is that Paris Hilton was supposed to speak with himto gather her thoughts and her stories to create the book of who really is Kim Kardashian.And he had to go through her publicist or her assistant.And she canceled 17 times.And that Kim was not happy about that.And, you know, what was that?did she ever have any intention of speaking about Kim?And, you know, if this is your, if this truly is your good friend, you should be doing it for your friend so that the book is that much more interesting, that much more juicy.
46:28It would have been really interesting to hear Kim's, I mean, to hear Paris kind of talk about how they met, how they became good friends, how they had a falling out.Was Paris ever jealous that Kim followed her blueprint and took it to another level of success?When did she stop being jealous of it if she was?But maybe Paris decided, you know what?Maybe I want to save that for my book.And maybe I don't want to have it be in this book and then have that be the thing that theneveryone globs on what I said, pick it apart, make me look bad.and then also whatever I was to reveal won't be juicy for my own book.
47:15So when you look at like Sophia Franklin, who has her book coming out about daddycalled Daddy Issues, she is a very successful podcaster in her own right.She just got married and had the most stunning wedding.She's been on Juicy Scoop.I've been on her show.But she got her start because she and Alex Cooper started Daddy Gang at Barstool first.And they had this falling out.because of contracts and realizing that they were not getting paid what they should be paid.
47:44And there's a whole story behind it.The barstool guy has a story.Alex Cooper has her side of it.And then Sophia does.And Sophia's book is coming out and in the excerpt that they used in the Hollywood Reporter,which, yes, I read that article too because I actually went to a red carpet party held by the Hollywood Reporter and UTA.and they invited meand for the biggest influencers
48:12and content creatorsand I got to leavewith an actual magazineso I read it this weekendbut in thatshetalks about how shefound out that for a while
48:24Alex was getting a higher salarythan her and had kept it from herand then it made her gookaylike I might have been okayif you were getting morebut now I feel weirdthat I didn't know
48:38And it made the whole situation feel strange.And then at one point, Alex goes,lets the attorney that was fighting for both of them to get more money from Marshall.The attorney calls Sophia and says,Sophia, I want you to know that Alex Cooper is getting her own attorneys in this negotiation.And I can stay with you or I can leave and you can get your own.And that's what she was like, what the fuck is going on?And then phone call stopped and everything.
49:08So, you know, it's a big deal when a girlfriend friendship ends.And so with Paris and Kim, they were not friends for a very long time.Then it was like, oh my God, Paris went to Kim's, you know, annual holiday party and they went down the fake snow sledding things.And everyone's like, this is great.But, you know, the only thing I can think of it is that Paris had a very,very successful book.And maybe she's like, yeah, I don't know what my next book will be.And I don't know that I want to be the one that makes her book even more juicy.
49:48Because I would love to kind of hear that time of like, how did you feel?Because I was there.And I remember that, you know, like Kathy Hilton and Chris, they were really good friends.And then when the show, Kardashians became successful off the bat,it was like, and there was this divide and they didn't talk for a while. And, you know, it's one of thosethings like, well, why can't we all be successful or whatever? But they weren't and they weren'tclose. And then they realized probably with maturity. We all are very successful. And Paris isextremely wealthy and, you know, very successful with a million different fragrances and clothing lines
50:37and DJing and all the things she's done all those years.But, you know, when you're like, hey, I'm the one that kind of created this whole thing.So I don't know that I want to be the one that's doing you a favor.But 17 cancellations tells me that she never intended to give the interview and wanted to get that out.But now the story is that she canceled 17 times on Kim.So that's the real genius because...I just spent a lot of time talking about Paris.That's how you do it, you guys.
51:10You either plant someone in the audience to ask about you at a BravoCon,like Bethany Frankel should do,or you act like you're going to be part of a big bookand then cancel 17 times.I don't know.Oh, by the way, her boyfriend, Lewis Hamilton,which they seem like a going strong couple.They spent the summer together, wakeboarding,
51:37everything. He bought the kids a golden retriever. Now, a lot of people will say that are big Kardashianfans, like how many dogs have the Kardashians gone through in the years? And the little girls,when they were little girls, Ken and Kylie were always getting dogs and people were like,where did that dog go? Where did Chanel and Dolcella and Gabonah go? Whatever. The kids are allschool-aged. A golden retriever is a great dog.Hopefully, whether she gets rid of her boyfriend or not, the dog stays.The dog's a great dog.You know, and it doesn't break up any family or whatever, and they stay together.
52:22She and Lewis, I don't know.I don't know how Kanye is going to feel about the dog gift.Pete Davidson, you know, tattooed the kids' initials on his body.While Kim was still married to Kanye, Kanye didn't like that.So I don't know how he'll like.the dog situation. But there you go. Speaking of dogs that broke up marriages, Sophia Vagaraand Joe Mancinelli Elio, I told you that little chihuahua was going to be a problem than it was.Well, she does not like what he has said about her in his book, Joe, that, you know, he had this
52:59debilitating disease and he would say, can I just have a hug? And she was like, oh, you just wantthe hug. No, hug your little dog. And then, you know, a little dog with a, and the dog didn'tlike her. And they broke up. And she's like, now why the fuck are you talking about me in your bookand making me look to be like a bitch when the dog was supposed to be her dog? And then the dogdecided it liked Joe better. They are no longer together. Now, she is out, exclusive by TMC,Sophia Vagara and Imagine Dragon's frontman, Dan Reynolds,we're seeing getting quite cozy during romantic dinner.They're sitting at a restaurant, like holding hands like above.
53:43Like, you got it.It could have been, we're going to make this deal happen.We have a business thing going.Or it could have been, I'm on a date with like a cool guyand I'm going to make sure the TMZ knows itbecause it's like taken inside the restaurant.So you're telling me that like a normal L.A. person isat a restaurant, and they took a photo of Sophia and this guy who I don't think a lot of people
54:07would necessarily like recognize and then sent it to TMZ and said, oh my God, they're getting cozy.No.She wants the world to know that she's dating somebody else, Joe, and you and your little dogcan snuggle without her.Okay.And, you know, Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, is still missing.I think they've accepted that she's no longer with us, but we still don't know what happened to that crazy story.Well, now sources are coming out and saying that they believe that there's these two men that, according to the source, was told, like was told the story.
54:51These two guys were watching that there was a story done on a local restaurant in two.Tucson with Savannah Guthrie. And that is where they realize that her mother lives in Tucson.That was their clue. And they have a string of crimes, but they also like sometimes work as day laborers and things like that and at restaurants.So according to this source, allegedly they planned on robbing her and they saw her leave.and they thought that she was not home.So then they came back after they saw her leave thinking that she wasn't in the house and then went in the house.Now remember, she went to have dinner with her son-in-law and daughter and then came back in an Uber.So that's why I'm like, did they see her leave and then get their supplies together and then come back into the house?
55:55and then she was already dropped off by the Uber,that they didn't expect her to be there,that an altercation happened,and then they took her body to another location,and then when all the news went,is when they left and went back to Mexico.But the thing that I think is interesting about the storyis kind of what I have always thought.
56:20Now, I thought it was someone local,so this would be somebody kind of local.And that they just thought, oh, my God, the connection to Savannah Guthrie, this woman must be so rich.Because to an average person, just because someone is a relative of someone they see on TV,sometimes they think the person on TV is wealthy, they're not.And then to think that like the mother would have so much valuable stuff in this Tucson home or whatever.So they, these two people, they are a person of interest and they are apparently going to be looked into,but they have to find them, of course, in Mexico, which could be difficult.
56:58But this is a story that now is going around.But it makes sense.It makes sense that the intention was not to keep her kidnapped and captive.But then that doesn't explain if all those kidnapping letters were just people that were obsessed with the case and wanting to insert themselves.Were they really true kidnapping letters from these guys?because was she already gone?You know, I don't know, it's very sad, but it makes sense.But also, you know, yeah, that it was possibly letting the world know that your mother is a local person living in this town.
57:41You know, it's just how are you ever supposed to protect anybody?Were you not supposed to do that?Like she lived her life as herself on the today's show and featured her mother.But I remember when this case first started, people were like, you know, she had her mom on the show and she let people know where her mom was and then, you know, and I think that's just why she was, you know, feeling obviously terrible about it, but also trying to use her celebrity to say, if you have her and she's okay, can you let us know? And then eventually she was like, if you have her and can we just be no, can we just lay her to rest and know that she's no longer here?That was really sad.Mariah Carey wrote a book, and this has been going on for a long time, and her brother sued her for defamation, and she won.And in the book, she talked about her brother and his crimes that he had sold cocaine and done time in prison.And somehow he was like, that's not true.
58:41Well, it was.And, you know, somebody had to sue his sister.And it's like, she could tell her story.And if you're part of her life, um, and,And it's true, like she could tell it, but he tried a sewer and she did not win.All right, you guys, to remind you again, I'm going to be in San Diego for one night only with Chris Vanjola, November 14th, 7 p.m.It's a perfect time for a show.Not too early, not too late.
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