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Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Josh Wolf on Ryan Reynolds, Murder and Comedy

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

The hilarious Josh Wolf is here! Josh and I go way back and the reminiscing is juicy. Gayle King is hurt by the outer space backlash. Blake Lively is one of Time Magazine's 2025 TIME100 most influenti...al people in the world? Will Blake stay married to Ryan Reynolds? Did Ryan allegedly start an actual fire. We found the SNL Chelsea Lately sketch. Was Mike White on drugs when he wrote White Lotus or just a genius. I share a new theory in the Karen Read murder case and so much more! Enjoy! -Find exactly what you’re booking for on https://Booking.com, Booking.YEAH! -Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/JUICY to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. -Catch the return of Sister Wives, Sunday at 10 on TLC. -Sign up now and join the over 14 million all-time customers who have already saved and invested over $25 billion dollars with Acorns. Head to https://acorns.com/juicyscoop or download the Acorns app to get started. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod  https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Juicy Scoop is brought to you by Booking.com, Booking.Yeah. How excited are you that summer is around the corner? And if you're like me, you want to plan a few trips with all your favorite people. So I want to do like a sexy little weekend with Peter. It's 25 years of marriage. I mean, every time I use Booking.com to find a place to stay in the U.S., I know they'll have exactly what I'm looking for. They have a huge variety of options
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Starting point is 00:03:10 Heather, you have not talked about Kenya on Real Housewives of Atlanta, the reunion of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. My time was sudden. Like I have so much scoop, but it's gonna be on the Patreon because I have such a juicy, funny episode with one of your favorites, and here we go.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of our return favorites, but he's a busy man. And you might remember him from being on our show that we talk about still so much, Chelsea Lately. But of course he is hilarious. It's Josh Wolf, Father of the Year. What are your other special names? You have so many specials. I'm here for the fun, four stories. It's the first time you haven't said Josh Wolf.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You know I have a problem with certain words. Bathing suit. You nailed it. Thank you. I'm trying. I'm. Thank you. Yeah, you nailed it. I'm trying. I'm growing up, finally. So happy you're here. Fresh off the plane from Vegas, which is your home base. I absolutely love living in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I love to hear that. It's my favorite place I think I've ever lived, but I have started gambling maybe a little more than I... At the actual casinos? Oh, yeah. What kind of thing do you like to gamble? I'm old, like I like to sit and pull slots. Oh okay.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I love to sit. And do you like set a limit, like $100 and then I'm out no matter what? No, I'm not that, I'm not that strict with myself. Like I'll leave with, if I leave with like 500 bucks. Yeah. I'll leave the house and I'll go, okay. This is what I'm gambling tonight.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Right. But I'm way up. Good. I'm way up. I can't gamble as much since Jacob had his little issues, but like Beth and I will go out, we have a nice dinner. And how is Jacob doing? He's doing very well. He's sober. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's Josh's co-host, son. He travels with me, he opens for me. He does stand-up too. And when did he start doing stand-up? Because he was more like on your shows and stuff before he actually like was doing stand-up, right? About two years ago. About two years ago, I threw him on stage.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I told him, I said, hey, we were in Austin. And I was like, hey, you're on in five minutes. And he was like, what? I go, oh, you were in Austin. Yeah. And I was like, hey, you're on in five minutes. And he was like, what? I go, oh, you're hosting this weekend. And he was freaking out. And he was like, what should I do? And I said, just tell. You're a great storyteller.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Just tell some stories. They already, it's like when you bring your kids, they know them and like them already. Yeah. Right? I said, you can't lose. This is a home game. It doesn't even matter if you're funny.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They're going to like, because they've heard so much about you. Right. They're gonna like, because they've heard so much about you. Right. They're gonna wanna see you. You walk on stage, you got a huge ovation. Yes. And it was his first set. And he stumbled around, but he was like, I love this.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's so great, you know, and it's because Drake helps me with the business. Yes. And goes on the road. And, you know, like, but he, you know, is not thirsty at all. And so like, so we're home and we brought all the master's stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And, and he, and we're watching the last day and he takes one of the chairs cause he brought the chairs and he brings it in the, in the living room. And he goes, I'm just going to watch it in this master's chair and pretend. And I go, oh, let me film that.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And I'm like, this is such a funny video. And I'm like, point of view, your parents went to the masters and you didn't. And these are all his ideas and stuff. And I'm like, well, can I tag you? He's like, no, that's fine that he doesn't want to. And so he had us dying laughing. He imitates Peter. He im he like had his dying laughing. He like imitates, you know, Peter. He imitates
Starting point is 00:06:46 Peter's his uncle. And I'm always like, would you ever think about it? You know, because I'm so jealous that you have Jacob because I'm like, it'd be so fun to like, have him go a little bit. We'll see. We'll see if he, he says he's not, he does not want to be like an actor or stand up or anything, but you never know. But when we were in Vegas and we saw you and you said his name, the place goes crazy. Oh yeah, but it kind of embarrasses him a little bit. Like I'm like, I wanted him to go out in the audience and like do the Q&A and he was like, he was like, no, but I'm going to, but in baby steps, it's like more and more and more. I think he's starting to be like, okay, but you you know of course it's a craft and you got to work on it I don't want it to be
Starting point is 00:07:27 but I I love a NEPO podcaster listen I like let's I want to be the first to have NEPO podcasters I won't be the first to have a NEPO but I might be the first female stand-up to have a NEPO-up. You just started a Nepo channel. Yes, but I want it because you know even with Joan Rivers, you know, Melissa, she, I was like, did you ever think of doing stand-up? And she's like, yeah, but I mean, you imagine what the news would be if I went and did a set at the Melrose Improv and all of that. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. It would have been awful. But I said to her, I go, but you should like, you're such a unique experience.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm like, you're the only person on this earth that had a mother that was that big of a standup. Who's a girl? Like there's plenty of people who was like dads or standups. I'm like, but you're the only one. Like, what was that like to be at like your private school and the night before your mom was on the Tonight Show when everyone was watching it and she did a bit about you.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And she just kind of was like, I don't know. I still think she should explore it more. I think it should be a TV show. Like, I think it's so unique and such a unique experience. And I say that to the boys too. Like I was like, when they were writing their essays, I go, I know, I know it shouldn't be about me. I go, but you really, you two are the only people on earth.
Starting point is 00:08:54 The only people on earth that have a mom that's a headlining standup, that's my age. Now the Allie Wongs and even Christina Pyszynski, they have younger kids. Those kids will all be writing those same essays. But my kid, no, my kid is the only one. Jacob is old enough now, but here's what he's up against.
Starting point is 00:09:15 So on one hand, people are like, well, he started on third base and he's Nepo baby. And this is all true. He gets 90 minutes of stage time a week. That's a lot. Okay? So he definitely gets a start on third base. But you know what people don't understand is they expect him to be way funnier than
Starting point is 00:09:32 he could possibly be two years in. So the expectations for him are way higher. He doesn't get to suck like we all did in obscurity. He has to suck in front of large crowds. The first time I did stand-up, so I got my start, probably in LA. I was 22, 23. Had you done like improv and...
Starting point is 00:09:55 Um, just, yes, in high school and stuff, but I didn't pursue it in college. And so I took a stand-up class. At the end of the stand-up class... Judy Carter? No, it was another girl of the stand-up class. Judy Carter? No, it was another girl named Judy, but it wasn't Judy Carter. This Judy looked like the lady in like, Come into the light culture guys. I think she was playing on her name that it was Judy.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I took up, my friend gave me in the magazine learning annex and she's like, you are going to this class. But I went to the, like a Radisson or something in Santa Monica, took the little class. And for the first time I realized, oh, like as long as you set it up, the people don't have to know that I'm imitating my teacher. They don't have to be in the class with me, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I got like how, so I took the little class and she probably charged me more than the other people. Cause like I had like my mom's Louis Vuitton from a rich client gave it to her, and I was trying to be bougie and had a decent car. But so then, and at the end of it, my family came. Everyone was so excited. I wore a pantsuit, like a Paula Pound stilt.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Like, what the f... I'm 23. Anyway. So I did it. I just found the tapes. And I'm going to put it on Legacy Box and start sharing this stuff Wait, are you in your pantsuit? Oh, yeah It's kind of flattering pants. But anyway, so like why am I like I'm young whatever so After that, you know my family I did great. I mean for a first time It was a very positive how much time I tell people try to have a positive first time experience
Starting point is 00:11:22 How much time would you have to do? I think we did. Everyone was doing like eight minutes or something. That's a lot first time. Yeah, but you'd practice it in the group and the class. And so then after that, my sister's like, oh, I know this guy at Omnipop. I remember Omnipop. So I get the number and somehow I get him on the phone. And I'm like, yeah, I've done this three times, whatever. And I remember what he said.
Starting point is 00:11:49 He goes, my advice to you is that nobody should see you for two years. Well, nowadays that's like an impossibility. Everybody tapes themselves, everybody puts it on TikTok. But I also love that people can make money doing other things besides stand-up and being creative. But in that case, I'm like, I always kind of remember that, and I think that's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So then I didn't pursue an agent or anything for a couple years. I thought it was really good advice. In comedy, which is so weird, your first impression, people's first impression of your comedy is usually what sticks forever. So if they saw you one time, 10 years ago, and you sucked, they're gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:12:29 nah, Josh sucks, he sucks. I remember there was a pretty cute girl that did a lot of hosting, and she was very nice. What was her name? I don't remember anybody's names, but I'll remember their jokes and stuff. Yeah, from here. And so she was cute.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So like, if you were young and cute, like you'd kind of get some attention, but you know, but like who was good and who was cute. So like, if you were young and cute, like, you'd kind of get some attention, but you know, but like, who was good and who was bad. If I say this joke, you might remember. And it was just, I remember like going, this joke sucks. But then years later, she did get better. But I was always thinking, that guy was right, because this was, but it was, I'm Irish and I'm Dutch,
Starting point is 00:13:02 so I get drunk and I drive into a windmill. Yeah, I know. Because there was a time where everybody did jokes of like, I'm half Indian and I'm half this. Which means I'm, yeah. Which I'm half Jew, I'm half Catholic, I don't know, that was like probably, one of these Judy classes probably told you how to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Can I tell you something? Yeah. So when- I'm trying to get the girls like listening to that right? That was me we were so I was Struggling for money and Joey Diaz called me and he goes a Josh Wolf. He said Univision is doing a They're doing people putting people on TV Spanish comics Was this was this like right after Chelsea and it was this no years ago This is way early a way early. Oh, way early. Okay, continue.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And he was like, but you gotta be Spanish. And I go, okay. He was like, told them you were half Jewish, half Cuban. He said- Oh, that's good. That's believable. He was like, so write some jokes. So I did half Jewish, half Cuban jokes.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I was like, I'm half Jewish, half Cuban. That means half my family are lawyers and the other half are clients. And people were like, yay. I did five minutes of being half Cuban, half Jewish. They were like, do you have any more? And I was like, nah, that's all I got. But for a long time, there were a lot of Hispanic comics
Starting point is 00:14:13 in town who thought I was Cuban. I finally had to tell them. I was like, yeah, that's not. I remember I was like, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna say I'm Jewish too, like Irish and Jewish, and my name's Heather McStein. That was a really bad joke. I never said it, but I was just thinking
Starting point is 00:14:29 of dumb things like that. First of all, you're the first person I've ever met that did a learning annex class. Really? Yes, but I- Well, you're valuable to me. I did a class, not a class, but I did a training session at a Radisson
Starting point is 00:14:41 when I was in college to learn how to be a karaoke DJ. And... What's the secret? Well, this... I'll tell you something. I have never been touched by more 50-year-old women when I was 21. Oh, so you started to do the job.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You got it, and then you did the job. In the class. Oh. It was... In the class! So we were there for a weekend in Dallas. Oh, like an intensive. Yeah, it was all... I was in the class. So we were there for a weekend in Dallas. Like an intensive. Yeah, it was so...
Starting point is 00:15:09 It was like today's master class. Like an Oprah's master class. So we all went... They made you like, you know, what's your spiel? Who you gonna be on the mic? And at 21, apparently, 50-year-old women were, I was the type. I had more sex with 50-year-old women that weekend.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Really? I could not, I went back, I was in college. So I went back to college to tell my friends, I was like, I had sex with a 50-year-old. They were like, what? I was like, two of them, two separate 50-year-olds. It was, by the way. And now you always have sex with a 50 year old
Starting point is 00:15:48 because they're married. That's true. It's a little different now because both of our bodies match up. So OK, let's, you were talking about the Masters. Oh, so there was, OK, I think, you know, the whole thing with the guy that won, Rory. So you know, there is a lot of juice about him. Well, he was filed for divorce
Starting point is 00:16:08 from the wife and then got back with her. And so there's rumors of what happened and I'm working on it because I know that's all my Juicy Scooper women want to know is what is the scoop about the guy that won not the trials and tribulations I've got him there and where he's actually practicing putting we want to know Why they filed and then they got back together and I just want you guys know I'm working on it It'll be on the patreon this Friday. I will tell you I watched the I watched obviously And I did comment to Beth because I said said, Beth, you should watch this. This is history for this guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 She didn't obviously care. But we were both watching, and the intensity of the hugs that he gave, compared to the hug he gave his wife, was so different. Like, he is just hugging and crying with some people. And with his wife, he almost gave her, like, a three-pack. It was weird. I know. I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:08 is it because of her big hat? Like, it was an odd thing. It felt real subdued. Well, he hugged Justin Rose's wife extremely long. Yes! What was that about? Way, way longer than his wife. And then people were like, stop reading into it.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It's just because they, he felt sorry that, uh, I... My whole life, when I'd be watching games and stuff, you know when they play, do football games, when I was a little girl, like the football would be on right on Thanksgiving. And I remember- The football? I like that. But I remember thinking, oh God,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I wouldn't want to be the wife that like, has to go, as if they do Thanksgiving that day. But I was just like, oh, I wouldn't want to be the wife that like, you know, has to deal with this husband if he loses, you know, I'm always thinking about the wives. And so then he was like, oh no, he's so close to Justin and Justin's been playing for a long time. It was strange.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It was strange. You could give Justin Rose's wife that hug if the hug you gave your wife wasn't so much less intense or long. Yeah. And it was like a, like somebody, you're like your college friend. You'd seen you like, Hey, a couple of pats on the back. It's kind of crazy. It was, you guys know how much I love quints and spring is upon us.
Starting point is 00:18:22 We've got into vacation mode and I I love all my Quince items. I love my silk. I have these great silk dresses that roll up easy, look great, are perfect for summer and layering with some of their great cashmere sweaters. You know I love all of their stuff. And the best is Quince now has premium luggage options and stylish tote bags to carry it all. Their luggage is so great
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Starting point is 00:19:24 This episode of Juicy Scoop is brought to you by booking.com, booking.yeah. Juicy Scoopers, how excited are you that summer is around the corner? And if you're like me, you wanna plan a few trips with all your favorite people. So I wanna do like a sexy little weekend with Peter. It's 25 years of marriage.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I wanna do something with my sons, we're planning on going away with another couple, we wanna make sure there's plenty of room in a vacation rental where we're not on top of each other but we can enjoy the area. And what I love is that booking.com, booking.ya has everything. I mean, every time I use booking.com
Starting point is 00:20:01 to find a place to stay in the US, I know they'll have exactly what I'm looking for. They have a huge variety of options from hotels to vacation rentals, and I'm always able to find something that fits my specific needs. I found that Booking.com has something for everyone. No matter who you are, Booking.com helps you find
Starting point is 00:20:20 the stay that's ridiculously right for you. Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com, booking.yeah. You guys know how much I love quince and spring is upon us. We've got into vacation mode and I love all my quince items. I love my silk. I have these great silk dresses that roll up easy, look great, are perfect for summer and layering with some of their great cashmere sweaters. You know I love all of their stuff. And the best is Quince now has premium luggage options and stylish tote bags to carry it all. Their
Starting point is 00:20:56 luggage is so great and I just got a dark green carry-on bag and I'm feeling so chic as I go through the airport. By partnering directly with Top Factories, Quince cuts out the middleman and passes the savings on to us. So we love that and they only work with factories that use safe, ethical, responsible manufacturing practices. So for your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to quince.com Okay, let's talk about some other weird stuff that's going on. As you know, the origin flight, the girls went into space and everyone jumped on the same bandwagon of you're not astronauts. This was an 11 minute ride for rich people.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And it just seemed very out of touch. And Katy Perry's speech, someone compared it to, I saw a funny video where they're like, as she was talking about we we may have gone to space but we were meaning to take up space or like the speech went on and on it reminded me of like the bridesmaid speech from the actual movie bridesmaid there's somebody cut it like that which was very funny and she just was always she just had said so many asinine things and then Gail's like you know what was
Starting point is 00:22:23 beautiful is after we got to the space part or whatever and looked down at Earth, then finally we've been asking Katie to sing this whole time that we've been practicing being astronauts and finally she started to sing, you know, what a wonderful world. And that was the best part of coming back. Like the whole thing. So then people get in there and of course the conspiracy theories, they never really went up there. Well, I think they did. I mean, I think we can say they did, but so the little pod lands and, and because it appears that somebody started to open the door and then was told, no, Jeff Bezos is supposed to open the door, you know, and have that moment.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And so, but because of that, they were like, did this even really happen? I do think it really happened, but I do think they had this thing planned out. Of course. Let me be the one, the man that opens the door. This is my fiance in there. Like she invited all her best friends. I'm like, this is just another version of my best friend's fucking a guy with a jet. This is all that is who's available to go to Cabo this weekend. Fire to the jet. We got the table
Starting point is 00:23:39 service. We got the table service. Who wants to meet me at Dre's or whatever. And so it's the same thing. It's like she probably asked a bunch of people, Oprah didn't want to do it, Kim Kardashian didn't want to do it, Oprah gave it to Gail, whatever she picked. And then there were like a couple other people that were special, but nobody knows their story because we got obsessed with like Katie and Gail. So then Gail comes out and she's just like, I'm so shocked at like why there's so much hate. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You know, space is important and, you know, you can have two things at the same time. You can be exploring space and be doing this and also be concerned with the people that can't buy eggs like it shouldn't be one of the other. They weren't exploring space. It was like an extended Six Flags ride. Yes, it was like they put them in the slingshot and shot them up and then they fell down. They did, here's the thing, there was nothing scientific about it.
Starting point is 00:24:29 There was no science, they weren't learning new things. It was rich people shit. Yeah. And this is not the right time for rich people shit. It just isn't. And Gail, I'm sorry. She bothers the fuck out of me. She, I mean, she's basically, she's used to going on rides like this.
Starting point is 00:24:47 She's the nepo friend. Yes. This is her whole career is just getting the... But she is likable on the Good Morning America. Okay. And she has been a great friend to Oprah. And Oprah's been a great friend to her. But I, last night, people did an article, it came up on my Instagram about like the backlash,
Starting point is 00:25:06 whatever, and I wrote, you know, this went over about as well as Oprah's GoFundMe for the Maui fires. Like it just isn't, just stop, don't try to change her minds. It just was a big turd. If they had said something, if they leaned away from astronaut
Starting point is 00:25:27 space science and just been like, what a crazy opportunity that we get to do this. Or just be like, how great that my friend is fucking Jeff Bezos. I get to go, I get to be one of the girls that gets to go to space and like all you bitches can, and then you can flash their cash and do a little twerk and be like fuck off. And it stopped being like we're trying you know we're trying to lift women off. Fuck you it has nothing this is not lifting up women in science or in space.
Starting point is 00:25:57 You know rich people who knows the third richest person in the world. Right. Who gets to send people to space. By the way I would love for Jeff Bezos, I'd be on the short list of Jeff Bezos shit. That would be real cool. Yeah, like, I mean, you know, I said I don't really wanna go, but sure.
Starting point is 00:26:15 If all of a sudden I got cozy with Lauren Sanchez, which let me tell you, I was DMing her too a couple years ago. But before she even got with him, cause someone's like, you know what, Lauren Sanchez is up, she's like a helicopter person. So I went on her, started following her, and I was like, oh, this is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And then of course, then when she got with Jeff Bezos, you know, I was like, oh, you should come on Juicy Scoop and blah, blah, blah. Like, come on, I was trying to get in there like Kris Jenner before Kris Jenner. I wanted to be friends. I wanted to be friends. I want to be friends. I'm still scared to go to space, but now that they've got,
Starting point is 00:26:49 like, it'll just become one of those things that, like, you know, people are scared of self-driving cars. Eventually, there's going to be a lot of self-driving cars, and some people are not going to be afraid to get in them anymore, and this is going to be normal too. I do think it was, I mean, look, you know, you heard the recording of them screaming when the parachute. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think that's nitpicking a little bit as somebody who screams when he gets scared. I'm a jealous, I'm a jealousander. So like, that kind of stuff I think is nitpicking, but the whole thing was so tone deaf. Yeah. I mean, people are, like, the egg thing, by the way, I can't hear another word about how expensive eggs are. I know. I'm kind of. I get it. We all get it.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But I thought the eggs were expensive because there was like a... Bird flu. Right. It's not another reason, right? We're still coming off of that. I don't know. I don't know where we're at with the bird flu,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but initially the eggs went up because of the yeah Yeah, I just think it's like something that people can throw around like no matter what you do Do you think it would have been if he had been like, okay I know this is and I never a big on telling people how they can spend their money you spend your money Yeah, but what if he had been like I am going to Fund this but then I'm gonna take this equal amount of money and I'm gonna put it towards whatever. I mean, I think he really does give a lot of money to things.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's never gonna be enough for some people. It's like when somebody like a Kylie Jenner, gives a hundred thousand to a charity, well, a hundred thousand out of a billion, oh, just shut it. You know, like- It's a lot of money. Right, it's just never gonna be enough.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And so it's like, yeah, if this is something that he wants to do and she gets to do it, it's like, you know, like I said, it's the girl with the, you know, the guy with, you have the rich boyfriend. And you have- Can you imagine marrying a billionaire? I've hung out with some girls
Starting point is 00:28:42 that are married to billionaires. And? One is great. And one, it was very challenging to act to have to pretend like I wanted to talk to him. And then they broke up. I mean, they broke up. But like, it was like, yeah, you know, actually, I was, I was staying, I stayed at their house, at their house a couple times in La Quinta. And then it was such an uncomfortable fight that I felt like I was escaping, like a mean dad at a slumber party.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Like it was just tension, even though the house was like 8,000 square foot. And I was like, I'm not gonna stay the day, I'm gonna leave. And then that's when I left and then went to this open house and then saw a lot. And then we, and then I was like, why don't we get our own house here?
Starting point is 00:29:30 And then I don't have to act like I'm interested in talking to this dick because I was the girl. I was the Lauren Sanchez friend. I mean, I'm just admit like how we all can all admit there we've all been that girl where you have to be like, isn't he the greatest? Isn't he the sweetest? Oh, you're so funny.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And like, you're just like, and then every time you go back, it's like the house looks a little less nice. The stuff is like a little less fun. And you're just like, oh, fuck it. Like this isn't worth it. If you're single, if you're single and someone is a billionaire,
Starting point is 00:30:03 how much leeway are you giving them for being like on the asshole spectrum? Do you know what I mean? You're giving them a lot. You're giving them a lot, at least the first couple times. And then, but that's the thing, sometimes with those people, that, you know, the friendships don't last
Starting point is 00:30:22 because everything gets old, if it's like, if they're really not interesting people. I'm sure Jeff Bezos is interesting and fun. I mean, I'm not saying he's not, but you know, we've all had to act like, because you're literally with your friend and you're like, she's literally taking one for the team. We all get to go to Cabo
Starting point is 00:30:41 because our friend is with that. If you're sending me to space, I have to laugh at your jokes. Of 100% and be like, he's the sweetest and he's... Where's the grubby? You have to be like that. You're not seeing her mister. You really do. It's a lot of effort. When people pay for vacation, you have to...
Starting point is 00:31:07 Oh, you've been there. Yeah. But, you know, when people pay for vacation also, there's a certain amount of latitude. There's a little bit of a court jester situation. 100%. Of course. Yeah. The latest on Blake and Justin.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Okay. A couple things. They just came out with the Times 100 most influential. And Blake is on there. Now, the thing about this is- Define influential then. Well, they have a couple categories where it's like artist, politics, whatever. And it seems like someone has to nominate you, so it's like another actor would nominate you. Like, Allie Wong must have gotten it before, and then she nominated Nikki Glaser, which
Starting point is 00:31:53 I think is a good big year. But then some of them just are like, whatever. There's not really even any quote unquote influencers. It's just a weird thing. It's just a magazine to get people to read. Isn't it something that PR people can buy? Oh yeah. I mean all this stuff you can buy.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And the same with the most handsome men and whatever people magazine. But what's interesting is that she got it and she has never been more disliked in her entire life. And in the article, they bring up the fact that she was just so wonderful because in 2019, she and her husband donated to the NAACP. And that I believe that was right after they got a lot of bad press for getting married on a plantation. Uh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Woo. Ha ha ha ha ha. Wait. But it's two thousand and twenty five. So why are we playing?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, your one highlight is six years ago you gave to the NAACP. Yeah. I only know this because my friend Zach Peter has been covering this a lot and I noticed his post and he highlighted that part. Oh boy. And I'm like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And so, yeah, I mean, and also like there was a time where like Ryan Reynolds recently was in some mags and it was the same type of thing. They brought up some really old story. So yeah, it's all a machine. Everyone's getting it. Everyone is just turned off by this. But she, the other thing is she's doing simple favor too,
Starting point is 00:33:27 with Anna Kendrick and they were doing the press. Did they, did they shoot this? Did they shoot that pre all of this shit going down? Well, definitely. Yeah. So I think it was done and like in the can and then this came out. Now I liked the first one, but the first one was like eight years ago. And so they're taking some photos on this press thing.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And I did not realize how tiny Andrew Kendrick is. So she's wearing these little heels. And I mean, and then Blake, I didn't realize how tall she was. And she's also wearing these tall boots. And then someone's like, oh, of course she'd wear these high boots so she could make Anna feel smaller. I'm like, I don't like, come on. Now some things you just don't think about.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You put an outfit together, you don't maybe don't know what she's wearing. They're looking like they're nice, but it looks a little awkward, whatever. But yeah, so that's just still going, it's still going on. There isn't that many things. It's just the thing, the updates are just people that are really going deep dive. Like there's this other girl I follow. And Ryan Reynolds said in an interview that he lit his elementary school on fire. What?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yes. As a child? As a child. And then joked, it's fine, I can say it now because the statutes of limitations have passed. So this girl, when did the deep dives, and been doing the deep dives for a long time, and found this elementary school
Starting point is 00:34:58 that was actually caught on fire in Canada that corresponds with his age and that there really is no statute of limitations. And all of this is a legend, a legend, a legend. Don't sue me, whatever. I'm just telling you what I see on the internet. I don't know, but I guess there's no statute of limitations in Canada when it comes to arson.
Starting point is 00:35:22 That's it. Couple things. I don't know if you know this, but I a long time ago when I was trying to sell a TV show. I did a table read and Ryan Reynolds played my brother. Was this about your life? Yes. Okay, tell everybody real quickly. It was it was it was during two guys a girl and a pizza place which he was a star of. Yeah, and so that whole cast.
Starting point is 00:35:46 So what's her name, Phillips? So you'd written the script, you had a pilot. This was like, obviously if you get to this level, it's quite promising at this point. We did the table read, it was for ABC. So we just took the whole cast. It was about your life as a was about my life, yeah. As a young dad with three kids. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Okay. So I, that was, when I look back on that, I'm like, but I was like, this young guy is pretty funny. He has a very funny, distinct way of like delivering and like, kind of like the way, you know, Matthew Perry delivered every line in Friends. I remember taking an acting class and this guy goes, I see, I'm gonna just imitate Matthew Perry. Like, I'm just gonna follow the imit...
Starting point is 00:36:35 And even before Lisa Kudrow became Lisa Kudrow, she came home from Vassar and her brother was friends with John Lovitz and she went to a Ground Link show and she's like, I think I wanna do that. And she literally started watching sitcoms, and kind of she's like so brilliant. She sort of studied the, like Keenan talks about too, because he was engineering major.
Starting point is 00:36:54 There is a math to comedy. There is a cadence to comedy that you can kind of study. You've got to be inherently funny, but there is some work you can do. And I feel like he kind of fit this,'ve got to be inherently funny, but there is some work you can do. And I feel like he kind of fit this, he's gotten it, but now that they're getting such, there's so many people that are not feeling Blake and Ryan. Now you're seeing that comedy. It's just getting like an old shtick. But once you saw it 15 years ago, it was really
Starting point is 00:37:23 probably banging. You saw it 15 years ago. First time. It was really probably. I was like, oh, this. Bangin', bangin'. This kid's got something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Continue, yeah. My most hated type of person is a bully. And they both seem like bullies.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yes. And that is like the biggest problem, I think, when they go to the press or when they set out in public, no matter what they say at this point, they're just seen as bullying this dude. And so even when they're doing something good now, it's got this haze over it of, oh, they're just doing it because they're trying to look good.
Starting point is 00:37:59 They're like, anytime I see anything that they do, any interview, all I can think of, oh, this is just to try to look good. I think they need to disappear for a while. That's the only thing that's gonna help them out, is to go away. But every time they try to defend themselves, they look terrible. And he's the most likable person in the world.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So to make him look like an asshole, I want a prediction from you. OK. Do Ryan and Blake make it out as a couple? Well, months ago when this started, I said the only way out of this for her is to say, my husband got jealous because of our communication. That's Beth's theory. And I, after being married for 10 years to this guy, My husband got jealous because of our communication.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's Beth's theory. And I, after being married for 10 years to this guy, I know how he works, I placated him and being like, jealous, the guy's fucking creeping me out. He's been hitting on me. And that made him mad, which kind of turned her on that he like defended her. He made fun of him in the Deadpool. They went for it, all of it. And then when she thought or got word from the PR person that it looks like they were doing
Starting point is 00:39:12 a smear campaign, because there was a lot of bad press right after it came out where people talking about she was like a bitch on set and didn't look people in the eye, blah, blah, blah. So then and then they went for it. They're like, fuck them. And then Ari Emanuel, his firm or whatever, William Morris, whatever it was, supposedly, you know, well did, let him go, fired him. Justin. Allegedly, he was a guest on a podcast recently, a live podcast show, and he admitted to that.
Starting point is 00:39:45 What do you mean, allegedly, that should be on the- I know, but it's like, I just wanna say it. Yup, okay. Okay, so he was on a live podcast, a big one, and it never, they taped it, but they never put it out, but people in the audience heard it, or whatever, where he said, yeah, I'm, I'm team Ryan and Blake. We fired that asshole like right when the first thing came out when everybody was anti
Starting point is 00:40:09 Justin. And since then, I think he has stepped down or he's just like, he doesn't have the level that you know, because of this, but they try to like, get that away. So all these things are true in that, you know, they just went the wrong route and they didn't realize how damaged you would be. So my thing is, when I first thought it, that way she could say, he said, and people have husbands or wives that later on,
Starting point is 00:40:39 they're like, God, I didn't wanna get into this legal thing with the gardener, but like my my husband was so pissed or whatever. And you just went along with it. So I'm like, it could have been that she just went along with it. That's what she would have had to do real early on. Now I'm like, no, I do think they're going to make it. I do think- You do?
Starting point is 00:41:00 I don't think they're going to make it. Okay, no, I take it back. I don't think they're going to make it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is what's going to happen. Okay, no, I take it back. I don't think they're going to make it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This one's going to happen. Okay, okay, okay, okay. They're going to stick through this for the next year and a half until it ends, if it goes that far.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Because by like August, they got to start doing the depositions, which means the Taylor Swifts come and all these people are going to have to like, and the Bradley Coopers and share their text messages. And oh, the girl, the young girl that played her, she supposedly, what I heard, I have not checked myself, she has removed all the photos from her Instagram with Blake. So she was all on Blake's side and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And that was a weird thing that they were so close because they never had a scene together. There was a big age difference and she was spending the night and she was lending her jewelry and all this other stuff to kind of get her on her side. That seems to be their MO. Right, is to gather the friends.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But they do it months out in advance. Like, they seem to be, when you look at it, they seem to really plan ahead for these attacks. So it's not like, oh, you're my new friend from a week ago, but can you vouch for me? They go months and months, and then six months later ask you, oh, by the way, you're on my team, right?
Starting point is 00:42:13 And also the other thing is, when she did my favorite movie, The Town, that hot Boston's, with Ben, my favorite Ben Affleck. You love that accent, don't you? I love the Ben Affleck, because it was like he was a criminal, but he was a really good boyfriend. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So she was like the townie. Yeah. Oh yeah. That he was still screwing you. So the rumor is that they had something going on in real life. Blake and Ben. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And in, people are digging up old stuff. She says, right off the bat, we did the sex scenes and everything to get us comfortable. And there's interviews of him saying, oh, Blake and I drive around at 2 AM in the morning so I can show her the town. And this is when he's married to Jennifer Garner. So there's that. Then there
Starting point is 00:43:06 was when she was did the Green Lantern is when she got with or they say they didn't, but that's where they met. He was with Scarlett Johansson. She was with someone else. So the other theory is 10 years into marriage, four babies, maybe he's spending way too much time with Wolverine, and she's like, starts to do her flirty stuff, and oh, promise no teeth, and all these kind of things when they're going back and forth, and he's not interested.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah. And he's not interested, but then still still the messages and everything, she plays that to get the husband jealous, Ryan, and then gets him so jealous and mad and nasty that he goes after it. So she kind of gets it both. She got rejected and then told the boyfriend, I mean, told the husband, like he's awful and he's been, you know, harassing me and all this stuff. But it doesn't make any sense because she grabbed, there's another scene where she grabbed the simple favors package and she's, there's scenes where she's biting his lip, Justin Baldoni's and Tanya. So the, I don't personally believe there was any sexual harassment on set by Justin Baldoni.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I don't think there's any doubt that there was any sexual harassment on set by Justin Baldoni. I don't think there's any doubt that there wasn't. Now tell your story. Now tell me what you think or what your wife best thinks. Beth 100% thinks that Ryan was jealous. Just like you said. Yeah. And I was like, how that dude would be jealous of anybody. But she was like, and she thinks that Blake seems
Starting point is 00:44:43 like the type of person that would love to lean into that and get the husband all fired up, right? I said he read the text on the kids iPad. Very possible. Kids iPad has been a problem in marriages for years. Sure. Because someone's cheating or someone's reading the text. It just happened on the first episode of The Valley, season two last night. Heather.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Brittany says, Jack Scott cruises iPad and saw my text because they were separated still and could get with other people, but it made him go insane. It's the kid's iPad. So that's what I think. Go on. My iPad. Yeah. Jacob didn't, when he was like 15, he forgot that he had set up all our devices and that every picture that he took
Starting point is 00:45:28 on his phone went to my iPad. I had his dick pics on my iPad. How old was he? He was like 15. And he's setting dick pics? 15 or 16. That's so my god. I was like on my iPad, Heather?
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm on my iPad. And I was like, do you know how alarming it is to like see a picture of somebody else's dick on your eye? I was just like, what the fuck? And then I recognized the Ikea desk in his room behind the dick. And I was like, oh, I built that desk and that dick. Like those are both, I'm responsible for both of those.
Starting point is 00:46:01 At least you wasn't popping it on the best thing. Well then. And like then she's cheating with someone who also has an IKEA desk. And you're like, if you're gonna cheat with me, could you cheat with someone a little richer? Like why are you with an IKEA desk? I, there's a rumor I did wanna ask you about.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I'm so glad that you brought this up. Beth, cause Beth. Oh wait, wait, we're going off because I know people are gonna be mad. So finish your prediction. Oh, wait, wait. We're going off because I know people are going to be mad. So finish your prediction. Oh, my prediction is there's no way that they make it through. I think they both... But do they not make it through five years from now
Starting point is 00:46:33 or they don't make it through in the next 18 months? No, no, no. It falls apart over the trial. Okay. Because I think what they love more than each other is who they are in the world. And I think the longer love more than each other is who they are in the world. And I think the longer the trial goes on, the more they fight with each other, because the more they get bashed in public.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I think it's really hard for him, because he's been America's sweet, and Canada's sweetheart forever. He's such a charming, likable dude. I also think he's kind of insecure about his looks now. Yes. Because he's not as cute. He's getting older. And Justin Valdoni...
Starting point is 00:47:10 I did see a picture of him where I was like, oh. Yeah, because Justin Valdoni is like 10 years younger, very fit. Yeah, those abs are crazy. Different style, everything. And, you know, and there's been scenes where he's like made a big deal out of like the other guy's ass and like just being like... That's a big question. What about... So Beth brought something up to me. She was like, have you heard... Because she was like, I hope they... you and Heather talk about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Ask her, have you heard about the Ryan Reynolds making out with dudes and all and that kind of rumor about him? I haven't heard of making out with dudes, but there's obviously there's always a room. There's always a room about any guy married or not that might be gay, especially when you're an actor. So she said there are like multiple occasions where he's like to other guys. Wouldn't it be funny if we made out right now? Hilarious.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah. Yeah. Like, and she, I was like, what? And she said, yeah, I was, I was, she did, she said I saw it on a video, and then I started to research it. But it would make, because I've always, I mean, no proof. But if you were like, you had to bet your life, if Hugh Jackman was straight or gay, I'd be like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'd have to lean gay. So the fact then, she was like, Ryan Reynolds. And I was like, ooh, I'd have to lean gay. So the fact then she was like Ryan Reynolds, and I was like, oh, this makes sense why they're so close. Yeah, but now everyone always thought Hugh Jackman was, you know, gay, but he's now with this girl Sutton Strack. It's not Sutton Strack that she's from Beverly Hills. Yeah, but. Sutton Foster.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And that seems like a real relationship, and that seems to be why his wife of all those years left. Yeah. But you know, I don't know. There's so many, I find it fascinating. That's why I wouldn't people's I have taken a little break from talking about it, but just more and more comes up.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And it's just like, in some ways, I feel like they're perfect for each other. Like they're, they're two like sociopaths that get together. I remember my sister said that she's a criminal defense attorney and she said, and I've said this a bunch on the shows, you don't want to get two sociopaths together that might hate you because then it's like worse. And I think, I don't know if they're, but there's something, there's something that is very similar about them. And then they have a common enemy and this was an explosion.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And I don't think they thought it through all the, you know, I don't think they really thought, okay, what is, I think they were riled up. There are people who were like, we're gonna fucking get them. This is an amazing evidence of the text messages from the PR. And they never really thought, cause we've all had those moments where you're like, we're going to fucking get them. This is an amazing evidence of the text messages from the PR. And they never really thought, because we've all had those moments where you're like, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Like, they took my idea and da da da da. And then you have to take a minute and you're like, what will this look like in the press? How far would it go? Everything that I've said and done on this podcast is going to be brought up against me, da da da da. This is why I don't think they'll make it. The fact that you don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Like, they just did not think about it. Because now Justin and his wayfarer producing partner, who I guess has all the money in the world, they're not going to just go, OK, give us $500,000 and we call it a day. No way. It's going to have to be like $400 million or forget it. This is why I don't think they'll make it.
Starting point is 00:50:23 When you bring up not sociopaths, but whatever they are, they do seem to have the same kind of narcissistic trait, right? I think they've always been like, untouchable. And America's sweethearts, and we love these people. And I think they love that so much. As that starts to crumble, they're going, I think, start to fight with each other. Like, yeah, you made me do that.
Starting point is 00:50:47 That's right. That's right. He'll be like, you fucking you told me that he was blah, blah, blah. And she was like, well, I didn't tell you to make fun of him in Deadpool. And I think that's where the cracks start to happen. Because at the end of the day, I think her career for acting and new roles, especially with all the stuff coming out about how she is on set and trying to take control, I think it'll be harder for her.
Starting point is 00:51:12 He's box office. Do you imagine though, the next time she's on set, like it was me, I'd be like, did I look at everybody in the eye? I'd be like, having my person make sure you tell me every person, like you're a vice president, every person's name. Oh, the girl that's ump needing the bags of chips.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Hi, Melissa, does your dog get, is your dog okay? Paying for the wrap party. Oh my God, I'd be like, whose dog needs an operation? Whose mortgage needs to be paid? Do you need new teeth? I need press like Keanu Reeves. Tell me what I need to do to like, oh, and it would just be exhausting. I don't think she gets another chance on set
Starting point is 00:51:46 for a long time. She's not, her name isn't bringing people, it isn't bringing eyeballs. He will have another shot because he's fucking really good and he brings eyeballs. And he actually can get people to a theater, which is crazy, but he may have to disappear for a little while.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, yeah. He's just not as... But if there's another Deadpool, I don't think this 15-year-old boy's care that he and his wife bullied someone. They don't care. And the comic book nerds don't care. And frankly, I like the movies.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Well, I probably wouldn't go to the theater, but... Yeah. But yeah, I'm with you. But I'm with you. I think if it goes to trial, I don't think, I think the cracks in the armor start. I think they make it through the trial. Yeah. Because it'll look really bad if they don't.
Starting point is 00:52:32 But it's a long way off though, if they don't settle. It's a long way off. How far off you think? It's like all the way like spring of 26 is the trial date to start because that's- How does Diddy go to trial sooner on criminal case than this gets with civil? Because I guess, you know, there's just the attorneys are whatever, what they want. I don't know why. It just is.
Starting point is 00:52:56 That's the date. I don't know why it's so far off. Oh, I can't wait. But it, because they're just going to be repeating old news until then. So that's why. I know I'm not the only person that procrastinates when it comes to seeing a doctor. Because you tell yourself, oh, I don't know who to call.
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Starting point is 00:56:25 You know, someone said she was crying about something. No, I wasn't crying because of that. I also saw that the girl who played her, which I said what I had Chris on, like that's the girl that's gonna like suffer the most. Like, fuck, why did I do this? And I also said now anybody that was like getting their teeth ready to do a TikTok video
Starting point is 00:56:43 or is probably not going to. So I'm like, she's one like, you know, she's doing good, the girl Amy. But she supposedly, that actress sent her flowers. I don't know if that's true, I don't like a daily mail thing. But when I had Chris on on Tuesday, I said SNL did a parody about Chelsea Lately. I remember.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So thank you to the Juicy Scooper who found it because it's very hard to find the YouTube stuff about Chelsea Lately. I remember. So thank you to the Juicy Scooper who found it because it's very hard to find the YouTube stuff of Chelsea Lately. It's very- Impossible. They scraped it all when the show ended. This one was called Helga Lately. I remember. And it was Kate McKinnon is acting like,
Starting point is 00:57:24 you know, instead of just saying we're gonna do a parody of Chelsea Lately, but I mean, it's the purple, was Kate McKinnon is acting like, instead of just saying we're gonna do a parody of Chelsea Laley, but I mean, it's the purple, it's everything, it's the music. They have, who is the guy that plays in Portlandia? Fred Arminson. So he's playing Chewie. And then they have a guy being like a flamboyant gay guy.
Starting point is 00:57:43 They have, I thought they had someone doing Lonnie Love, but no, it was Keenan, Keenan Cowell just being like a comedian. And not Keenan Cowell, Keenan, what's? Keenan Thompson. Keenan Thompson. And then just some girl that they'd, so then they would do all the, they'd be like, Fossage on Kalala, like whatever Swedish.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And then you just hear like, you know, vodka, my vagina, my vagina, like just making fun of this, like, oh, such low hanging fruit, these idiots on E, right? And then he's in the chair being Chewie, but he just sort of like looks like DeFord. Like I was like, this is, but nobody's really laughing. Like the audience isn't laughing. They literally did this sketch for themselves
Starting point is 00:58:27 because they were probably so, probably, this is what I think happened, okay? Writer, the writer's room is there. And they come. What year, this was still when we were on Olympic. Yes. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Yes, but it was like a solid year and a half or two in. I think maybe even a little more because I think we had started to really get ratings
Starting point is 00:58:48 and that and people were like, I think it was more than two years in because I think she had really started to take off at the time. Yeah. And I just know that they just are like, oh my God, like how are they, who is watching these idiots? And so this is what I think happened. One of the writers that did stand up, which is why a lot of people started to hate us,
Starting point is 00:59:10 is it was just the best place to be a standup. And she would always say, Josh is gonna be at the Chicago improv, whatever. And then, but also some of us that weren't really headliners before, were now able to get these gigs on the weekends that we could do it. And so I'm like, I'm sure these bitter, you know, male writers were like, fuck this dumb show. It's so stupid. And who's this girl that talks about sex and vagina and da da da da. And that's of course how it got written,
Starting point is 00:59:45 you know, out of jealousy, whatever. And so anyway, I saw it and it really, and then they did like the Swedish Kardashians and like the audience is like not laughing. And so there's like 200 comments and the first, and they're all from like 11 years ago, okay. And so the first comments are all like, oh, this Swedish is all Swedish people being like this is pretty good or that's not really the right word for that. Like it was, and then like the rest are like,
Starting point is 01:00:13 oh my God, these people don't get that this is like a parody of Chelsea Lately that was on E. Like it's so, it was funny. Do you remember her being upset? Cause I remember. I don't remember her being upset. I do remember. I don't remember her being upset. I do think.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I think she was good about it. I think she was kind of just didn't acknowledge it. Like, which is what you should do. But I do think when SNL, if you're in the entertainment business and you get spoofed, it's almost to me like an honor. Oh yeah. It's almost, and I understand this woman with,
Starting point is 01:00:42 I didn't see the sketch about her teeth. Did you see it? Just the little clip of it. Was it terrible? No, it was just a small part. She kind of said the parody was white POTUS and they did all the Trump stuff. And then, so she was like, if it was all political,
Starting point is 01:00:58 why include me in my looks and you know, that kind of a thing. Yeah, I get it. Someone in the comments said she she said she has summer teeth. Summer here and summer there. I never heard that. I never heard that. Whatever. But but but she has to know, I mean, she's lived with those teeth. It's also it's like Lauren Bacall. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's it's what Michael Strahan, he said, I'm never going to fix this gap. This is what makes me Michael Strahan, he said, I'm never gonna fix this gap. This is what makes me Michael Strahan. Right. And so those teeth are what will also get her roles. This is those are like... I honestly think all of this was good. And I honestly think it was good that she did share her feelings. It just made her that much more authentic.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And the only way to be a sustaining personality or star now is all being authentic. Obviously that's why people are not enjoying the girls in space and why they're not enjoying Blake Lively. But her being like all sad about it, yeah, of course. Anybody that just is on a high and then sees that someone's doing something that you're sensitive about, she's being honest. and she even said,
Starting point is 01:02:05 I don't, I have no ill will against the actress who played me, I'm just saying like, it wasn't that funny and like, could you have done something else? No, because looks are what you do. Like that's what we do. And apparently, you know, SNL is not apologizing for it, which is what they shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You just go to the next show. You just don't bring it up. You don't apologize. But I'm sure no one will ever do her again. Did you watch, you watched this season, like, White Lotus, right? Oh, yeah, I loved it. I... Well, I didn't love it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I love the first one the most, Hawaii. Yeah, I love Hawaii. And then, of course, the second one got good second half. This one I thought was really slow on the get-go. Like, I'd oftentimes fall asleep. Yeah. But I love when it's so rare now that a show is pretty universal so that I can talk about it
Starting point is 01:02:52 and everyone's kind of getting it, and that it's once a week. So for that I love. And I thought it was still great. I thought like Parker Posey, I mean I thought everybody acting was great. Amazing. There were some things,
Starting point is 01:03:03 this is the first season though where some things just didn is the first season though, where some things just didn't add up. I was like, no, that didn't make it. This guy killed my dad, so I'm in Hong Kong now at 55. Like it doesn't make, that whole story never made sense to me. It seemed like a throw away.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Also, I don't know what drugs Mike White has taken, but there isn't a drug in the world that I don't recognize my brother giving me a hand job. Right. That is like, that is like the cra- that was the craziest. And then the discussion they had was, don't do that again.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Okay. Like that's the disc- Well, we're fighting for like 10 years. Every time I see you, I'm punching you in the face. Like, and every- by the way, I'm a people pleaser too. That doesn't mean I'm giving my brother a hand job so he's happy.
Starting point is 01:03:45 That blew me away. I thought that was actually kind of brilliant and funny. How? Because it was just funny, because it made no sense. Because it made no sense. So to say I said, I go, yeah, so he was a people pleaser. I'm like, my sons won't even wash each other's plate, let alone finish each other off.
Starting point is 01:04:04 What a crazy excuse to give your brother a hand job. And somebody was like, well, won't even wash each other's plate, let alone finish each other off. Like, no way. What a crazy excuse to give your brother a hand job. And somebody was like, well, he was blackout drunk. Okay, here's the deal. When you're blackout, you may not remember what's happening, but you recognized human beings. But how brilliant is it though, that he did introduce the most taboo storyline
Starting point is 01:04:22 that got everyone talking? Because that's the thing. Yeah, that's it, everyone talking, it's like you got everyone talking and you pick an actress that's not your typical yacht girl dating an older guy look. I love that by the way, love that. Like all that kind of stuff. So I do think he's brilliant.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Who do you think comes back? Who's the repeat guy for the next season? Is it Greg again? I think they'll like bring someone from like the Hawaii season. Oh, really? For somebody think they'll like bring someone from like the Hawaii season. Oh, for real? For somebody. Like, or the, or people were saying like it would be great if like from the Italian season, if the girl that clearly, the kids are clearly the trainer, her personal
Starting point is 01:04:57 trainer. Like if all of a sudden she shows that like she's divorced and she's with her trainer. Like I think that's a way to get, that's what, if I was the HBO exec and I could give any notes to Mike White, I'd be like, do that because then everyone goes back and watches all of them again. Yeah, that actually is smart. To remind themselves and like, you know, and what's the connection and trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:05:18 So I think there'll be like a couple surprises like that. I did think the relationship between the three women was brilliantly written. I three women was brilliantly written. I thought that was brilliantly written. And how they interacted and the roles that they thought they played in the relationship. I thought that was like so human and so real. And even though nothing happens in a lot of those,
Starting point is 01:05:39 it's like to me like the, I would say that about the Sopranos. I'm like nothing happened, but I could still watch it because it's so well written. Yeah, when it's just so good, it's sucked in, everyone's watching it. I think it's great. Would you want to be on White Lotus?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Is that the show, out of all the shows on right now? Well, you know, I talked to Jennifer Coolidge right before we didn't know she was gonna die. And I remember I talked to her on the phone and I was just like, I can't believe I'm talking to you. And then, I don't know, I could never gotten hold of her afterwards, but whatever. And she listens to Doocy Scoop and she's like,
Starting point is 01:06:12 you're kind of like a little genius, the things that you think about and you figured out a lot of shit. And she was like- Good voice on that one. So then I go, how do you feel? Like, this is like amazing. And she's like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:24 I didn't want to do that. I go, why? Why wouldn't Like, this is like amazing. And she's like, you know what, I wasn't, I didn't want to do that. I go, why? Why wouldn't you want to do the first one? She goes, because it was COVID and I was fucking fat. And they want me to go to Hawaii and be in a bathing suit. And she's like, I'm like, ah. And then this friend, this girl that she's friends with that I remember from back in the day was like, you're crazy. You called Mike White right now and you say you're going to do this. But that was the whole genius is that he was like, what can we film? Yeah. During COVID and we can just go here and everyone can be isolated. We can film this thing. But
Starting point is 01:06:56 in her mind, she was like not like feeling it. And you know, so that that's like a great lesson to learn. Like you should should never, like, let some insecurity or where you're like... For sure. But, yeah, I also think I'm fine if we do full soap opera and she comes back as, like, her sister. Oh, you go twin sister? Dr. Drake Remore or whatever from Friends?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Like, she comes and she's, you know, and also because I believe Jennifer has, you know, gotten some work done since then. Has she? Yeah, everyone has. A little bit, I think so. Nothing wrong with it. A little face lift, a little eye bluff, whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And so she- Eye bluff? That's what you like. If you have like where your lid starts to come down, only certain eyes have it. And so, anyway, I think she does. And I think she then, she could come as whatever. As, as... A cousin or a sister?
Starting point is 01:07:59 Like, yeah, like a sister or something. She marries Greg again and she kills Greg. Yeah, and she doesn't have to be that character. Like, she could be a whole other character with, like, a different voice and everything. Beth and I, so going into the last episode, we wrote down what we thought was going to happen. How cute.
Starting point is 01:08:14 We... And what was the results? Not close. Oh, neither of you. I thought that the old guy was going to kill Walton Goggins. OK. Not the other way around.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I thought he was gonna come and kill him. And that was my guess. Or that the guard who did end up shooting him, I did think he was gonna shoot somebody, but I thought he was gonna shoot one of the Russian guys. And Beth was way off. But I like shows like that where you can kind of... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:44 You have no idea. That's what I'm saying. There's so few shows that people are into all watching, and there's watch parties and stuff like that. There's so many shows to watch, and there's just so few that are a hit. And there's so few now that you feel like, oh, I gotta watch it when it comes out. I can't wait till the next day,
Starting point is 01:09:04 because then I can't be on social media at all. Right, yeah, yeah. Like when we were coming home from something, I'm like, don't look at your phone, don't look at your phone, we're gonna like watch it tonight. Okay, a couple more topics. I filled you in on the Karen Reed. Now that you are from Boston.
Starting point is 01:09:21 From Western Mass. Okay, I have to tell this theory about Karen Reed that I just read. Okay. That someone put like in the comments somewhere. So the guy had what appeared to be bite marks on him. And there was a- What part of his body?
Starting point is 01:09:41 Like arms. And there was a dog that was like, I think they put him down like right after this happened because they all think that the people in the house were covering for somebody or something. And the dog had like disciplinary problems. So this person wrote this theory. They said, why are they trying to pin the murder of this cop on a human? This is what they thought. The dog attacked him, and maybe no one saw it or whatever, and he went running out to get away from the dog
Starting point is 01:10:20 to try to get in the car. She doesn't see that he's come out now. He sees her leaving, so he starts to kind of run like, to try to get in the car. She doesn't see that he's come out now. He sees her leaving, so he starts to kind of run like, be like, hey, slips and falls, it was a very snowy night, hits his head, and then is left and dies. And nobody in the house knew that he. What are the wounds?
Starting point is 01:10:39 There's so much. People are gonna be- Are they saying what he died from? Like what are the wounds on his body? Does he have a head injury? Yeah, there's head injury. There's so much evidence, but right now, they're going into the second trial. And a lot of the things, what I said previously,
Starting point is 01:10:56 is when there's a mistrial and they do it again, it usually favors the prosecution, unfortunately. And, you know, the judge is now saying a lot of things I'm not going to allow in this trial that they're trying to get in. That was, I think, valuable to the first trial in her defense. Just like conversations and pointing out certain cops that may have had an issue with him that was in the house. Basically,
Starting point is 01:11:28 her theory was like, he went in the house and they beat him up and he either stumbled out or they threw him out on the front. And then the other theory is no, she either backed into him because she was pissed and left, or she backed into him, didn't realize it, left, was kind of drunk, went home, passed out, woke up in the morning, realized he wasn't home. Was like, is this fucker still drinking at the house, went back to the house, and then saw him lying in the snow? I mean, here's the unfortunate truth, is that like, if in that first trial,
Starting point is 01:12:05 they didn't have absolute evidence either way, there's so much court of public opinion. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how you find 12 people who have, especially in Boston. That's what happened, but that's what happened with the Menendez brothers. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:22 They did the first trial, you know, mistrial. They did it again. And then they were like, we are winning this one. We already lost the OJ. And then they didn't allow all the testimony of the first, which is why people think they should have another resendency. And our DA is saying no. He doesn't think so.
Starting point is 01:12:42 But a judge is going to list, has said yes, I will accept hearing a resentencing plea or something that would get them out. But there- So is there damage on this woman's car? Was there damage? Yes, there was. And she was saying, but the damage could have been from a previous thing that happened. And then she then there's also they believe the defense that a lot of evidence and things were tampered with because there was this cover up with all these cops.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And then these particular town has a reputation of a lot of like corruption and stuff of Bostonian cops. Oh man. I mean, she anyway, I also heard she's a juicy scian cops. Oh, man. I mean, she has... Anyway, I also heard she's a Juicy Scooper. Oh, is she? Karen Reed. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Have you got her on here? I 100% don't. If I was on the jury, there's no way I would say you're guilty because I don't know who did it, but I don't think, even if she, even if I had a thought that she may have backed into him and whatever and left, I still feel like there isn't enough evidence to know either way,
Starting point is 01:13:55 but there's no way she intentionally, in my opinion, no way she intentionally got pissed and backed into him and let him die. So for me, there's no premeditation. There's nothing. Was there marital issues? Just like they had a real boozy night and there was like, they were boyfriend and girlfriend
Starting point is 01:14:13 and there was flirtation going on and there was maybe some infidelity on both sides. But then they also were kind of like a pretty cohesive unit because he inherited, not inherited, but he got custody of a sibling who'd passed. So he had like two kids that he was raising and she was very step-bombish. And they had like a nice situation going,
Starting point is 01:14:37 but when you really explore the marriage, yeah, there was, you know, oh, text message found and flirting and we broke up this one week and whatever. Is there, in order to get a new trial and I don't know I don't know enough about it Do you have to have new evidence? No, it's just that the the jury said we can't come to a decision So you don't need new evidence to to have a new trial. Well, no if you got convicted No, they're in a mistrial So so there's a mistrial to get trial, as the prosecution get another trial,
Starting point is 01:15:05 you don't need new evidence. You just need a new jury. You need a new jury, but yeah, but then you kind of get to do it again. And you get to see the holes in your case. Exactly. It's fucked up though. Same judge. Because it's fucked up that they would not allow certain... No, I think maybe they... I don't know. That's a good answer. I think it might be a different judge. I'm sure there's gonna be a million people correcting me.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I'm not following everything on Earth people. All right, Josh, let's wrap it up. Tell everybody all the fun places to find you guys. Every Monday night, I have a residency in Vegas at Kimmel's Comedy Club. It's the most fun I have because I can do whatever I want. Jacob and I are on the road. We're at comedianjoshwolf.com.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I just shot my second comedy music special, which is like my favorite thing. It's called the Campfire Special, but I love playing the guitar on stage. And the songs are so ridiculous and so silly and so fun. And we had a lot of amazing guest singers come stop by because I shot it in Nashville. So that'll be out over the summer.
Starting point is 01:16:12 And then comedianjoshuelve.com, I'm in Michigan this coming month and I'm in Ohio. I'm in a bunch of different places. But the shows are amazing. Jacob and I, he does like 15 minutes, and I do like 60, and then we do a Q&A, which is a ton of fun. Then we do some music, so. Yeah, the clips are great too, so everyone follow you.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I appreciate it. And I love coming down here. Mostly, I just like coming down and reconnecting with you. I've known you for so long. When you used to run the union. I've known you for so, so very long. I've known you when people used to be like, is that your? I'm like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Because when people used to think, when I first started day in Beth, they were like, is that that comedian? I was like, no, that's not that. Yeah, because Beth and I look like we could be related. They were like, is that that comedian? I'm like, no, no, that's not Heather. But we've known each other for so long. And so I couldn't be happier for you and your success.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And you too. Yeah. And I loved seeing you guys at the Masters. You guys were definitely there for different reasons. He was, he probably had a golf boner the entire time. He's so excited right now. He is golfing at Riviera. His friend invited him to celebrate the friend's birthday.
Starting point is 01:17:26 And he had all the master bags set up like a real housewife. He got gifts for everybody. He brought gifts for everyone? Yeah, everyone got like a hat. And everyone got a towel. I go, is this for a sweaty golfer? Is this to like clean your thing?
Starting point is 01:17:41 Everyone got a towel, everyone got a hat. And then I go, oh, let me film this. And he goes, no, because my friend follows you, don't post it yet. How cute is that? Oh. So yeah, it really was fun for him. And he has all the clothes and he looks cute.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And it was, I had very low expectations. I was like, how am I gonna watch golf for three days? And it was so fun. I loved it. It's because it's a, it's like a thing. It was super fun. Yeah, but the food there wasn't the, was not the best. No, I loved it. It's because it's like a thing. It was super fun. Yeah, but the food there was not the best. No, I loved the food.
Starting point is 01:18:09 When I went with my dad, the food was not great. Oh, well the food was fun and great. Yeah, I just liked it. I liked the walking, I liked the sitting. I liked it all. My dad, not a super, you know, guys from our dad's generation. That's super emotional.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Or, and I brought him on his bucket list was going to the masters. And a couple of years ago, I got to bring them there and we, the whole day he didn't really talk. He just watched golf. Yeah. It's didn't talk. And there were days, there were times because we couldn't have our phones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Right. Lose them. And I was like, what? I was like, you can't walk off, dude. I can't. Yeah, yeah. You have to stay near me. And we didn't talk for most of the day.
Starting point is 01:18:49 So I was like, is he having a good time? And we walked out of there the first day. He gave me the deepest hug. And he said thank you. Just like he was roaring, giving it to Justin's wife. Exactly. Justin does this right. But he was like, thank you so much for this.
Starting point is 01:19:05 And it was such a... That's so awesome. It was such a great memory just being there, not only because of the Masters, but to be able to do that for him was so crazy. And then you got these tickets because you were on a big, you were on a rise to be a big TV star. Yeah, I would, I'm not getting those tickets now. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:19:28 That's what's so good about all those opportunities that came, whether it was hanging out with a friend and the rich billionaire boyfriend husband. Shoots you up into space. Right, or whatever it is. I'm like, I would always be like, I don't know how long this is gonna last. You should take advantage of these opportunities and not ever just be like, I don't know how long this is going to last. So you should take advantage of these opportunities and not ever just be like, eh, I'm too tired
Starting point is 01:19:49 or I'm burnt out. Like go, go and go because yeah, it's important that you do these things. Absolutely. And, and what did Drake want to go? Was he jealous? Yes. Cause he's a golf guy, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I mean, he, he was happy for us, but he was, yeah, he was jealous. And it's like, it's someone's like, would you go again? And I go, yeah, if the opportunity comes up again and we are able to do it, it would be very fun to take him. Because he would have such a great appreciation and be excited for it. Did he say, why is mom going? She doesn't even like golf.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Well, I'm the connection of why we went. So it's like, without, good time. Nobody. And how were the how were the outfits of the people watching? The master, some people dressed, some people, I was like, oh, they came dressed for this dress. Like I just heard this one lady had like these really big green, like very special, like Gucci glasses. She was you could tell she was like really wealthy.
Starting point is 01:20:44 But you know, all the outfits I thought were really, really classy. Once in a while you'd see just like, like an outfit that just didn't work, but it was like really rare. Like, you know, like someone wearing like a kiss t-shirt, you're like, what are you doing? That was like one in like thousands.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Like most everybody had like golf tire on and like pretty nicely dressed and like a little more conservative but put together. And that's it was just very nice. Yeah. Well, thank you, Josh. Love you. Love you. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks. This podcast is brought to you by Aura. Aura monitors the dark web for users phone numbers, emails and social security numbers, delivering real time alerts if any suspicious activity is detected. and social security numbers, delivering real-time alerts if any suspicious activity is detected. For a limited time, Aura is offering our listeners a 14-day trial plus a check of your data to see if your personal information has been leaked online, all for free when you visit aura.com slash defense. That's aura.com slash defense to sign up for a 14-day free trial and start protecting you and your loved ones. That's
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