Julian Dorey Podcast - #300 - Spec Ops Commando on Afghanistan’s #1 Darkest Secret & Undercover Warfare | Johnny MF Glenn

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in Description Below) ~ Johnny MF Glenn is a former Green Beret with over a dozen combat deployments - more than 21 years of back-to-back, nonstop, kinetic action in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, and parts unknown. He's seen gunfights, IED's, combat dressings, and human shields - he's been blown up five times, shot once, and had two cracks in his frontal lobe, all over the course of a career that's dotted with wild tales of 'organized' chaos that only a veteran operator could know. JOHNNY'S LINKS: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/johnnymfglenn/ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@johnnyglenn-3112 FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey LISTEN to Julian Dorey Podcast Spotify ▶ https://open.spotify.com/show/5skaSpDzq94Kh16so3c0uz Apple ▶ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trendifier-with-julian-dorey/id1531416289 JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 - Johnny Joining Military & Background, Split Operation (Military + High School) 11:16 - 1st Phase of Selection (Individual), Guns & Communications Skills 23:56 - Real Firefight Footage Breakdown 31:31 - Head Cams Controversy & Few Hundred Firefights 37:06 - Glenn Fighting Since Balkins to Now (1990’s - Present) 01:15:19 - Green Beret’s Unique Skills & Issues Post War 01:09:30 - Deployments Constantly Refreshing Marriage, Psychopaths are All SF’s 01:26:18 - Green Beret Team Starting a School in Afghanistan 01:28:28 - Afghanistan’s Darkest Underworld 01:33:57 - How Johnny would Fix Cartels 01:42:17 - 1st Deployment (Africa) Teaching Military, Day of 9/E1leven, 01:55:58 - North Carolina SF’s Transformers Incident (Attacks), Power Grid Attack Fears 01:59:58 - Fort Bragg by September 12th, Kandahar & Working w/ SEALs 02:09:42 - Johnny’s 15 Year Hat Story, Ambush & How to Occupy Space OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: - Episode 97 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/2PUs7l2jW9c - Episode 107 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/7jNz3-WPV5I - Episode 150 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/dUlc2d6fDzg - Episode 224 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/Gv-YWfNWwkM - Episode 249 - John Kiriakou: https://youtu.be/5_FDZozJ9zE - Episode 250 - John Kiriakou: https://youtu.be/5HuyORiWoDM - Episode 278 - John Kiriakou: https://youtu.be/_CFWmuIgQIE - Episode 279 - John Kiriakou: https://youtu.be/scrGRKVa-Q4 - Episode 261 - Joby Warrick: https://youtu.be/gw6mpPIaxnM - Episode 198 - Joby Warrick: ​​https://youtu.be/F1fhuwCT9YE - Episode 134 - Joby Warrick: https://youtu.be/Xaz7JfTLFQE CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - In-Studio Producer: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 300 - Johnny MF Glenn Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Johnny motherf***ing Glenn. You had a really long career with no breaks basically. So having been trained for the last three, four years I've been in the military, you never got to the show. But when that f***ing phone rang, dude, we're going to the show. I remember when I first came to the Army, which was crazy. We're going to Afghanistan. That country was designed to fight it.

And I remember I had a team warrant. He kept telling us, careful what you wish. And in the valley of Afghanistan where we were, that's a wild, wild west. We've been in a firefight all f***ing day, dude. I was white as snow, dehydrated. They know how to hide. They know how to bomb that. You know, these are the kids that are playing Halo.

So somebody said, Rusty got hit. At that point, I just wanted to get to Rusty. You see how the hill just goes down? Those guys are right there in the gullet. And I remember I came all the way up from the back. Like, I had to get to him. And we had this young kid on the team. And he goes, look at Johnny mother glen.

He looks like a black Jesus. So all the SF team knew we were in a firefight and he heard it. Everybody's like, Johnny Mother Glenn, Johnny Mother Glenn. That's one of the best names. It's the best. Hey, guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge, huge help.

Thank you. johnny mother glenn that's one of the best names we've ever had come through the studio if not the best it's the best let's not cut it short pull that in just a little bit i want it like a fist from your face right there perfect but it's funny there was a little bit. I want it like a fist from your face. Right there. But it's funny. There was a little bit of, I don't know, like the universe lining up here. My friend Mike Ritland had you on his show, I don't know, maybe like six, seven months ago, something like that. And I love Mike and I really love his judgment, like with people he brings on and stuff. So I look through that sometimes when I'm looking through military guys. And I'll go listen like five, ten minutes here and there of people.

And I went and listened to a few minutes of your episode. was like oh this is great threw you on the list and like three weeks later your girlfriend texts me and she's like hey shot in the dark here would love johnny to come on your show i'm like what the i've got this guy on the list so it's cool to have you here hey glad to be here really glad to be here so you did you had a really long career i did with no breaks, basically. None. Zero. No. I got out for one year, but as far as, you know, breaks in the military, nah.

So you're a Green Beret. We were just talking off camera a bunch about kind of what separates the Green Berets apart and all that. But, you know, how many deployments was it total? Like 15? Yeah. Well, I did 10 to Afghanistan, 2 to Iraq, and then Bosnia, Africa, just Europe, just all over well i did 10 to our 10 to afghanistan to iraq and then bosnia africa just europe just all over the 10 to afghanistan yeah 10 afghanistan across what years uh starting in 2002 when the war first kicked off you know we started in september of 2001 in 2002 we started

and all the way up until i think the last time i was there was 2016, 17. So you saw it all the way through. Oh, yeah. From the start to the rise to the fall to the trail. To the retrograde. Yeah, when we started retrograding and started, you know, just breaking the place down. But yeah. Oh, yeah. From start to finish.

Okay. So what, did you grow up in a military family? I did not. No, I got cousins that joined, but my father was not in the military. I had a cousin that joined the military. I had two or three cousins that joined. And I saw them. I was like, I think I want not in the military i had a cousin that joined the military i had two or three cousins that joined and i saw them i was like i think i want to join the military but i think since i was about seven eight i know i was going to join the military so you looked up to them

obviously i did i did what were they in in the military so my brother nate he was a 11 bravo he's an infantry guy he was our instructor my cousin terry i can't remember what he did and i had a cousin that joined the marines he was like a mechanic and then uh my cousin rod was in the navy i can't remember what he did in the navy a cousin that joined the Marines. He was like a mechanic. And then my cousin, Rod, was in the Navy. I can't remember what he did in the Navy. It's the Navy, so he didn't do much. Only took about three minutes. He didn't do too much. My cousin in the Marines, he didn't do much either.

He shot a lot. But, yeah, so I was always around the military, but my parents definitely weren't military so my dad more wanted me to go to college and play sports that's what he wanted me to do and I was like I think I'm gonna do that yeah I wanted to now I went down to Florida State took the SAT like all right I'd like to try to go play football basketball baseball somewhere just a sport like every kid you know and then I realized like man schooling for me school just wasn't it wasn't my thing I was taking an SAT and got even walked out.

I was like, this ain't going to work. And I remember that day I went to a recruiting station down in Florida State or down in Tallahassee, right off of Capitol Circle Boulevard in Florida, Tallahassee. Walked in there, and I was honestly thinking about joining the Marines because I liked the uniform. But then I walked in there. Nobody was sitting there.

The Navy guys weren't there. The Navy guys weren't there. Marine Corps guys weren't there. And there was an Army guy. He's like, hey, what are you looking for? I was like, I don't know, man. I'm just trying to – I'm looking to do something. Guy called me back in his office. I'm looking to do something.

I'm looking to do – that's exactly what I told him. I'm looking to do something. And he didn't – he didn't flinch, man. I walked in there. And I'll never forget it. He just sat me down and put me in a room and showed me a video. And I looked at it. I go, how do I do that?

And I remember it was a helicopter. Guys were jumping out of the helicopter into the water. They were swimming and they were shooting. They were just blowing up stuff. It was like an oil army. Yeah. And right then I was like, how do I do that? He goes, not only can you do that, we'll pay you. So you've always been picky about your produce.

But now you find yourself checking every label to make sure it's Canadian. So be it. At Sobeys, we always pick guaranteed fresh Canadian produce first. Restrictions apply. See in-store or online for details. And I looked at him. I'm from a small little town in Georgia, man.

And, you know, we weren't, you know, we weren't dirt poor, but we weren't, you know, we were lower middle class, I guess. And when he said he was going to pay me, dude, he was sold. Pay me to blow shit up. That's exactly what I said. You're going to pay me to shoot shit and blow shit up. What did I sign that? He was like, how old are you? I told him how old I was.

He was like, all right, well, you got to get. What were you, 18? 17. I was 17. Oh, so you weren't even. I wasn't even legal yet. Let's go. That's exactly what I said.

I was like, let's go. So I left that summer, man, my junior year, went to basic training, came back. Oh, did your parents have to sign you in early and everything? Yeah, my dad was pissed, man. He was pissed. I was pissed. He's like, what are you doing?

You're throwing your life away. I think you should go to college first. And he was just trying to, you know, as any father, like, hey, you need to do this first. I was like, no, this is what I want to do. And then he told me one day, he's like, all right, well, if you don't want to go to college, and his exact words were, I can fuck up my own money.

I don't need you to do it. And I was like, all right, cool. So after that, man, went to base training, came back, and then I finished up my senior year in high school, graduated on the fourth, left on the fifth. Oh, that's crazy. So you went the summer after your junior year, and then you come back to high school to finish. It was called a split operation program back then.

I don't know if they still do it now, but it's called split op. So you go your junior year to base training that summer, and then after you graduate base training, you go back, you complete your senior year in high school, which was cool because now I'm back in high school. Like, damn, you know, like I miss football. I can't miss everything. But I was like, I was off base training.

So, you know, it was pretty cool. And then I graduated and I left right after that. And where'd you go? I ended up going to Fort Jackson, South Carolina after that. And then I went to Fort Lewis. It was my first duty station. Where's Fort Lewis? Well, Washington, Seattle, Washington, or Tacoma, Washington.

Oh, all the way out there. Yeah, I went all the way. Dude, they sent me from the East Coast all the way to the West Coast. I remember I called my mom like the second or third day. I was crying. I was like, I'm ready to go. Come on. Come the fuck home.

She was like, what's wrong? I was like, I went downtown. It might have been a week or maybe two weeks. But me and some buddies went downtown to Seattle. And this girl came up and started talking to me. She had purple hair, piercings in her face. Dude, I'm a country redneck from South Georgia, bro. I was like, what in the fuck is going on here?

I was like, it was like I was in Mars, dude. I was like, it is time for me to get out of this place. I called my mom. I was like, hey, mom, I got to go. I was like, this girl had purple hair. Something was wrong. She's like, no, baby, you're not in Bainbridge anymore. There's a big world out there.

And then I just kind of embraced it. It has purple hair. It has purple hair. So I kind of embraced it. And then i kind of spread my wings a little bit like all right i guess there's a different world like i'm used to those country dirt roads and yeah you know just girls being girls and i was like it was weird man but it's a good cultural experience yeah oh it was shocking yeah if it wasn't so far out of left i'd probably went awol but i can't get home where'd he go he walked away Where'd he go?

He walked away. Where'd he go? He ain't going to walk back to Georgia. So I was like, so they had me, dude. They would have sent me like, I don't know, somewhere a little closer, like maybe Florida. Yeah. I'd have walked home. I'd be like, I'm out of here, dude.

I'm going home. Now, were you right away trying to angle to get into the Special Forces? I didn't. Had no clue what the SF was. You were just going into the Army and figuring it out the army i'm figuring it out and i remember i told my old sergeant major benjamin jacob if he sees this get in touch with me but he's a great sergeant major i remember i told my first shot one day i was like hey i came in the army to kill you know to blow up and shoot guns and i ain't done that shit yet like i'm ready i want to go home

that's exactly what i told him and my first one was like oh probably gonna tell me what i want to do i was yeah first i'm ready to go home. That's exactly what I told him. And my first son was like, oh, probably they're going to tell me what they want to do. I was like, yeah, first son, I'm ready to go to f***ing home if I ain't going to do what they told me I can do. And I don't ever forget it. He grabbed me by the damn shoulder, my collar, he walked me out. We walked right across the building to the sergeant major's office, sergeant major, Benjamin Jacobs. And he goes, and my first sergeant name is Frank P. Burns.

And he goes, tell sergeant major what you just told me. I told sergeant major, sergeant major, I want to go to f***ing home if y'all ain't going to let me shoot shit and blow shit up. And he's like, oh, you want to shoot shit and blow shit up, eh? Cover what you wish for there, Private. Glenn got you. And like two days later, man, I was on a field problem, or a field problem, and he attached me to another unit.

So I was out there for probably two, three weeks in the field, crushing it. Loved it. I'm like, dude, this is what I grew up doing. In the woods, hunting, fishing, loved it. And then I came out of there, and I got got like an impact am for it from another unit an impact am it's just a award just like an army achievement medal so they gave me an impact am they wrote it up like hey this guy you know is out in the woods doing this doing this and back then we had miles gears like laser tag so dude i'm running around knowing it's not real i'm like just killing everybody like i'm one man band out there.

So I got back from there and he's like, okay, well, you did pretty good. So what do you want to do with your career? I don't know, sir. I mean, is this what I want to do? So at that point, he tried to get me to go to a range of Italian at that point. And at the time, they couldn't get the paperwork to send me to a range of Italian. So I was like, all right, I'm stuck here for a while. So then I'm outside the company one day just looking at a Green Beret poster.

Had a Green Beret, and the number was 910. No, it was 253 something or another, 912, and then it had four digits. I'm just staring at it. We had formation at 9 o'clock. Exactly. I'm just staring at it. I still had no clue. My commander came out, Jeffrey Butler, and he goes, he's probably going to look at me.

And the poster said, do you have what it takes? That's all it said. And I'm like, do you have what it takes? That's all it said. And I'm like, do you have what it takes? I'm just staring at it. And he goes, probably Glenn. You think you got what it takes? And I look back at it. I look to him.

I go, Sean doesn't even know what the fuck it is, but I know I got it. That's exactly what I told him, dude. I had no clue. Like, I had no clue what a Greenberry was. Then he's like, yeah, yeah, I bet you do. He's like, you should go check those guys out. And I did, man. I went over the next day to the first group over at Fort Lewis.

I went over there and talked to a recruiter. And he goes, hey, man, you got to be an E4 in order to go to selection. You couldn't go as a – I was a private first class. Couldn't go as a private first class. So back when I went through selection, you had to have – I think it was two years in the military, two to three years in the military, and you had to be the rank of E4 higher. Yeah.

So I went back and I told my commander, I was like, hey, sir, they said I had to be E4, da-da-da-da-da-da. He said, all right, before I leave here, you will make E4. And he kept his word, man. He stayed in the company about another four to six months. Maybe I can't remember the exact timeline. But one of my buddies woke me up this morning, hey, come downstairs, put on your uniform.

And he got orders to go to the Pentagon. And he was supposed to be in the unit another year or two. Oh, your buddy did. No, hey, come downstairs, put on your uniform. And he got orders to go to the Pentagon. And he's supposed to be in the unit another year or two. Oh, your buddy did? No, no, my commander. So when he got orders to leave, he kept his word, dude. He promoted me with a waiver. So I was literally in the Army for 16 months, and I was getting promoted to E4. Wow.

Which was fast. I was fast tracking. Yeah. So he promoted me to E4 that day, and he said, I won't ever forget it. He shook my hand. He said, I held up my end of the bargain now you hold up yours i went back over filled out the paperwork and a month two months later dude i was down at fort fort uh fort bragg going to selection and what so the training with with green braids like we've had a lot of navy seals in here talking

about buds and what they do there it's obviously different but i've had some delta force guys some army guys i had one green beret danny hall in here who talked about training but what was a lot of them describe how it's more rather than team building stuff you're doing a lot of on your own just sending you out almost into the wilderness so to speak is that what yours was like first your first your first phase of uh selection is just pretty much individual week that's how you're doing and it's more so it's more mine like just getting your head in anything because you have no known distances you're walking you're just walking with a ruck on your back and then you do runs you're just running you see an orange cone with an arrow you turn if it's right or left, you turn.

And it's literally mine. It's just a mind. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then your second week is team week. That's when you're assigned to a team and you start doing your team stuff. But backing up to the first week, you're literally, you're land-napping every day.

And they give classes, like, you know, because you have a lot of guys show up there, never land-napped, never been in the woods. So they give you, you know, land nav class. You'll do your land nav classes. After you do your land nav classes, they'll give you, like, confidence boost and stuff. You'll go out and do, like, little short points.

You might do a point 100 yards. Then you do one 500 yards. Then you do one for a click. And then after that, everything after that is 10, 12, 15, 20 clicks. And you're walking all night long to find a guy. And some of these trucks, and I'll say this, we're assholes because you're looking for a guy dude he'll be wrapped up in a poncho with a little bit of kim light and you're walking looking for a kim light at night and you can find it but it's like come on dude really you know i mean my last point was four to eight clicks and now you're

basically hiding anyway this is bullshit you know but then you find the guy he stamps off on your you keep moving so then you go into team week, man. And then once you get into team week, that's where it's to see if you're a team player, how you play well with others, and how you get along on a team. And what, like, are they talking about right away what separates Green Berets? Meaning, like, you have all these different Tier 1 units across the military and all that, but they all do different things. So are they kind of beating home?

Like what the culture of a green beret is versus others? No, they don't beat at home. You take a lot of psycho psychological evaluations before you go there. I mean, a ton. So they already know the type of person you are. They know you're type a,

they know you're aggressive for the most part, most guys. And they know like you'll put others before yourself like they just off the test which is crazy because you can lock 10 berets in a in a in a room and you can get almost 10 alike answers guarantee it guarantee it because they know what they're looking for they're looking for that person that if i put you in a room and you got to go d da mission you can go do it if i tell you you got to go hang out m, you can go do it. If I tell you, you got to go hang out MREs, you can go do it. If I tell you, you got to read your guy's body language, get close to that guy, use that guy as, you know,

whatever to get A, B, and C, you can do that as well. So we always say, jack of all trades, master of none. But if you take a range of Italian kid, all he wants to do is, you know, run through a building. Whereas we're going to sit back and be like, why run through that front door when I can call an airstrike? Or we can tunnel into it. Or we can do this or we can do that.

So we're going to strategically beat you instead of, you know, like, hey, I'm just going to go in there guns blazing. Yeah. How about let's strategically beat the guys over there, hosties in there. So they're looking for people with a higher degree of emotional intelligence. That's it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you can control it. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. Logic, but also like understanding as well. So when you talk about reading people though, so obviously like they're selecting for people that they think can do that well. How do they – like sometimes it's hard for me to think about this, but you're, you know, 18, 19 years old, like you're young. They haven't been around you for that long. How, how do you think they picked you out as someone who had a high propensity for being

able to do that? Cause that's a very difficult skill. A lot of it is just like, um, like your, it's your, your ability just to be able to adapt basically. You mean, so they put you in a room they might ask you a whole bunch of questions like they give you a language test it's not even a language it's just a bunch of and then you have to all right what i just hear it's like a language it's like an aptitude language test and it's a test where it's not words it's like me and you saying

but then you comprehend what you think you heard like kenny from south park kind of exactly kenny from south park and then yep and then you go oh man he just said and believe it or not they got all these whizzes up there that can read them be like all right dude this guy's brain aptitude he's more of like his brain thinks more of mechanically he can break tear shit up and then push it shit back together. So he's going to be a weapons guy. Well, this guy right here is more analytical. This guy starts, finishes, and he does steps and stages. All right, well, this guy probably needs to be a medic. Oh, and this guy's brain's way in left field. He's out there in outer space. This guy's definitely gonna be a combo guy. Because how can you take something and say, I'm gonna talk to this guy and then talk this guy like yeah you're weird yeah so they do all these tests so that you know they kind of read your

aptitude your brain how fast your brain works you might throw something at you be like okay look at this right and tell me what you just saw you look and you say i saw a water bottle i look deeper than a water bottle what did you see all right i saw water that i could use for you know i could use to wash my hands i used to clean out a wound i got a water that i could use for you know i could use to wash my hands i could use to clean out a wound i got a water bottle i can use that as a weapon i could use to store something so now your brain is going way beyond just a water bottle right i mean so now you see their brain can pass it what this person is capable of and what they can do and then once you pass selection that's when your training really starts as far as like can you read people how do you read a room how do you judge a room and then they send you to

certain schools where you get better at it where'd they put you at first in those in those boxes you mentioned the bravo 18 bravo weapons guy because i've always loved guns growing up and blowing up dude and aggressive and most 18 bravos are like that dude like they're And most 18 Bravos are like that, dude. Like, they're just, most 18 Bravos are the same. They have a ton of guns at their house. You know, you're always looking tactically, no matter what I'm doing. If I'm driving, I can go to a funeral, dude, and I'm thinking tactically. Hell, I play golf, and I'm like, if I was going to hit somebody, I'd hit them on a golf course. Ain't nobody out here.

Nobody's got a gun on you. You just got a golf club. But your brain's always thinking like that, you know what I mean? Like, and it never turns off. So, I got put into the 18 Bravo category always thinking like that, you know what I mean? Like, and it never turns off. So, I got put into the 18 Bravo category, which is weapons, which is what I want

because they give you choices. You get three choices out of the jobs. I chose 18 Bravo and then 18 Charlie, which is demolitions, glowing up, and then the last one

was 18 Echo. What's that? That's the communications guy. Okay. Because that's just always been fascinating to me. Like, it's kind of weird.

Like, you know, me and you can talk on a cell phone in a different state. How the fuck does that even happen? It's wild. It's wild. So that's always fascinated me. But guns have always been, like, my first love. So you ended up where you're supposed to be. So I ended up exactly where I was supposed to be.

And they hit it right. They hit it right on the head. I got my first choice. And most guys do, for the most part, get their first choice. Yeah. Because they've already looked at your test. Like, yeah, this guy would be super whether you line up to line up with it because they're trying to set up for success too so now what about that that training you mentioned

a minute ago once they make this decision you talked about some of the psychological training that they actually put you through to be able to read people and stuff like that what did that look like so once you go to the q course like you put on certain teams and then the um the cadre are always evaluating you so they might give you say like you put on certain teams, and then the cadre are always evaluating you. So they might give you, say, like, that you might be in charge of the next mission. Like, they'll be like, hey, check this out, Julian. You're the new team leader for the next event.

And then the next event might be, all right, guys, we got to move, like, the sandbabies event. You got these little bit of sandbabies. They weigh about 60 pounds apiece. We had to move them, like, 200, 300 yards at at a time and there's only eight to ten guys on the team and if you're the team leader you got to come up with that plan how we're going to move them most guys are like all right dude this is the plan we're sticking with it well if you're a smart guy you say hey dude i'm gonna take my team be like hey guys this is our mission what do you think

we should do then everybody got the input you take the best one of them. Then you brief it. Crowdsource. Exactly. Yeah. You crowdsource it. And we like to call that force multipliers. Now you just made one brain, eight different brains. Yes.

And those eight different brains can think together. And then you get some teams where guys come together quick. They gel. They learn like, hey, dude, this is our mission. Let's go get a gun. Then you got some teams where everybody's type A is like, nope, I'm in charge. I might get a no-go. If I don't do this.

Well, at the end of the day, dude, you're screwing yourself. You know what I mean? Get those guys involved because once you get on a team, that's all you got. That's it. And then after that, it progresses after that. You start doing just psychological stuff like, hey, you walk in a room or they give you a psychological test like, hey, what did you see in the room? You start drawing shit or you might read a passage. You might read a passage.

Then they start talking about whatever. And then after that, they'll say, okay, now write down everything you remember about the passage you read an hour ago. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now how does your brain store information? How do you characterize stuff? Like in this room right now, there's four different cups I've seen. How do I characterize those cups and put them on a table where they were on a table?

And then they're grading guys out on that too, obviously, so they can see who's the best at it. Yeah, and how your brain capacity is working and how do we train your brain to be better? How do we train it to be faster? Because it's just a big CPU now. How do we make it store more information and store it faster and retrieve it faster? Why are you getting shot at? Pretty hard to do to do actually it's not you know what i mean i tell people all the time believe it or not when you train to do something like that it's easier to me being honest i'd rather be i remember i had to go speak to one of my buddy's kids

his uh elementary school his wife's elementary school kids that was when i talked to elementary school kids i went and talked to elementary school kids. I went and talked to elementary school kids, and I brought my body armor. I brought some nods. They were actually four years old. I know. They were pre- Somewhere in the principal's house. Yeah.

I don't know. But it was good, though. It was good. It was good. I knew my audience. That's our first thing. Know your audience. And, dude, I ain't going to lie.

I sat in the parking lot. I took my daughter with me, Lauren. And we sat in the parking lot for five minutes. No, like 15 minutes. We had to be in there at nine o'clock. At 8.50, bro, when I said I was sweating, dude, I was sweating, I was shaking. She goes, what's wrong with you, daddy? I go, the kids, man.

I was like, kids are cool. You never know what they're gonna ask you. And she's like, are you serious right now? You're a tough green boy. I was like, yeah, but I'm dead serious, bro. When I got out of that truck, my armpits was just wet, dude. I walked in there and the first question I got, I'm going around the room. She introduced me as Army Johnny.

This is Army Veteran Johnny. She didn't introduce you as Mr. Motherfucker. No, no. Mr. Motherfucker Glenn, how do you snap a neck? I know, right? So she introduced me as Mr. I think it was Veteran Johnny or Army Johnny. I think it was Army Johnny. Army Johnny. And I was like, well was Veteran Johnny or Army Johnny. I think it was Army Johnny. And I was like, hey, I'm Army

Johnny. I was like, alright, let me give you guys a background. And first kid put his hand up. It was Lil Johnny, dude. I knew it. I was like, that would have been fucking me. I put it on my guy. Yeah, what's your question? He goes, have you ever driven a tank? I go, actually, I have. And then, dude, so I look at my, first

thing I do is look at my daughter, right? And I look back at her car. I go, yeah, da-da- have. And then, dude, so I look at my, first thing I do is look at my daughter, right? And I look back at her and I go, yeah, da-da-da. And then this little girl raised her hand. And I point at her and I go, what's your question? Soon as she raised her hand, dude, I look at her, little blonde-haired girl, cutie she want to be. She just starts crying, bro. Crying?

Just started crying. I was like, oh, shit. In my head, I'm like, that girl never seen a black man before. I'm like, holy shit. And you know me, like, I'm clowning, but that's what I'm like that girl never seen a black man before I'm like holy shit and you know me like I'm clowning but that's what I'm thinking I'm like oh shit like

she literally raised her hand dude she's raising her hand and I looked at her and I go what's your question sweetie and she goes and she starts crying dude I swear to god

I was like what the hell and then the teacher of course Miss Christy she goes okay no more questions let him introduce himself. I look at my daughter, dude, and I was like, you got to be shitting me, man.

Because right then I was lost. I was like, what do you do after that? And then my question is. You get scared in front of elementary school kids. I did, dude. Whenever they have bullets flying, you're good. Yeah, dude, because now you're in an environment where you know. Yeah.

You mean that's the environment that I know. That's the environment that I feel comfortable in. The environment with the kids is like, holy fuck, dude, like totally out of my element. I didn't want to curse. I didn't want to swear. You know what I mean? How am I going to present myself? You know what I mean?

I don't want to upset the kids. And then, of course, Miss Abigail starts crying, so now I'm like, shit. I mean, now I'm about to get an EO complaint, and I just got there, so I was like, you got to be shitting me, dude. But, yeah, so, you know, anytime you're doing things that you know, just like, you know, if you did something growing up, your background, like you say, you grew up playing that you know just like you know if you did something growing up your background like you say you grew up playing golf so i put a golf club in

your hand you hit the golf ball you know what you're doing somebody never played golf and you got a thousand people watching me like oh shit oh shit i'm gonna fuck this up right so you just go back to your training so which is easy because you've done that your whole career yeah it's a big thing about all the all the special forces guys I talk with. I mean, the military in general, but it's like they just beat things into your head over and over and over again. So that even situations that may appear insane to normal people like me are, you've done it. You've done it thousands of times. And you're like, all right, I'm just going to let instinct take over.

And that's it. That's exactly what happens, too. You just let the training kicks in. And it's not take over at this point. And that's it. That's exactly what happens, too. You just let the training kicks in. And it's not even training at that point. It's your body. Right. It kind of knows. It knows what you're listening for.

It knows what you're looking for. It's playing chess. Like, in a firefight, you're living in the now, but your brain is playing chess with what's going on. Especially if you're in a leadership position. Playing chess with what's going on. You're playing chess with what's going on. So if I know guys are shooting me from over here and I know where my guys are, my brain is trying to predict, all right, if we kill those guys right there,

then that's going to end this. But what if those guys flex to this spot? Then I might need to get a guy, two or three guys over here. And the beauty of it is when you're on a team like my team, dude, my first team at SF, I was on that team for 12 years. My second team, nine years. So we knew each other like the back of our hands. How big are those teams?

They try to be 12-man teams. When I first came to SF, I think our highest was eight, nine guys. Got it. Because you just didn't have guys. Very tight-knit. Very tight-knit. Me, Troy Lattery, Vic Combs, Dwayne Jones, Dave Glendon. I mean, tight, tight.

So these guys are already thinking. Like, we're already thinking. Like, our minds are already thinking. Like, all right, dude, we need to get this spot, kill these guys are already thinking like we're already thinking like our minds are already thinking like all right dude we need to get this spot kill these guys or we know they're moving this spot because yeah that's what we would do you mean so you're already moving to it so you're already thinking like the guy to your left and right so you don't have to say much you just kind of we always say let the guns do the talking let the i like that let the guns do the talk let the guns do the talking yeah yeah and as do the talking. Yeah. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, I might have him pull up something on the internet.

It's called A-10 Saves My Life. A-10 Saves My Life? Yeah, A-10 Saves My Life. He pulls it up. And you'll see me on the radio here. We're in a firefight, and we got in a close ambush right there. That's it. And if you scroll towards the end, it's a near ambush. That's 1520 and Sergeant.

Now, when was this from this was in 2014 15 i think that's rusty on the gun right there my boy russie codman russ is my dude he's a good dude if you fish he's on the soft so right there there's a definitely where the ground just drops off and you can see like right where to see what the dark green tree in the background like in the background is you see how the hill just goes down? Yes. Those guys are right there in the gully. So they're basically shooting like this. Whoa. And you can hear him saying, so you'll hear me right here.

If you back it up just a little bit, I just came up to Rusty. Well, in the back of the truck, somebody said, Rusty got hit. While I was in the back, I'm in the back doing my thing back there. When they said, Rusty got hit, Rusty's like my mini-me, dude. Love that kid. Love everybody on their death. Love everybody on the team to death, but you always got that one guy that you gravitate to. Me and Rusty just kind of gravitated to each other because Rusty was a lot.

Like, when I first met Rusty, I didn't like Rusty. I go, why don't I like this fucking dude? And one day I looked at him and said, you know what, Rusty? He said, what's that, Johnny? I said, dude, I didn't like you when I first met you, but I know why now. He goes, why? I go, you were mean, motherfucker, when I first got the group. Like, he was that guy that every time you came in, every morning, everybody to a stand like we got to do more pt and i was that

what god do when i first got there like oh you're the hard l oh yeah dude you we need to be working out every day we need to be getting it well when they said rusty i hit we had infantry guys attached to us and when they said rusty i hit dude for once in my life i was like oh fuck am i at that point i just wanted to get to Rusty like I had to get to him and I remember I came all the way up from the back

and when I got up there when you hear this you hear me saying these fucking guys need to get the fuck off the radio they just said Rusty was hit

and they didn't say Rusty was hit but that's what I heard I was like we got a bunch of chatty caddies he was good and I was like

we got a bunch of chatty caddies on the fucking radio station and dude after this firefight I went in that night to the infantry kids oh dude I lit in their ass of chatty caddies on the fucking radio station. And dude, after this firefight, I went in at night to the infantry kids. Oh, dude, I lit in their ass. I was like, look here, don't get on the fucking radio. The guns do the talking.

You can hear the gun, the way he was shooting up there. He was fucking fine. Yeah. But there's just so much gunfire, dude. They had RPGs coming. He just couldn't tell. And their training's not on the same level as yours. It's not on the same level. We trained them, but it wasn't on the same level.

You see the trucks in the background. If you fast forward that and listen, you're going to hear the ATNs. That's training's not on the same level as yours. It's not on the same level. We trained them, but it wasn't on the same level. You see the trucks in the background. If you fast forward that and listen, you're going to hear the ATNs. That's insane footage, by the way. But you're going to hear the ATNs come in, dude, and they're doing, wah, you hear the gun runs. Once they came in, you'll hear Rusty, like, yeah, hey, tell them to clear hot for immediate re-attack. I JTAC sent them back through.

They did another clear. Then we walked in. We cleared all that, dude. How many guys were down there? That was in the go. We probably had about 12 that was just mangled, dude. It was all fucked up. I know it was more than that.

What did you say this was, by the way? Afghanistan? That's in Afghanistan. That's in their pass right there. Robot pass. What year is this? I think it was 2014, if I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure it was 2014 or 2015. That's A-10 just came in.

And now once A-10 comes in, dude, guys start scattering. They start running. But they can take that gullet. This is what makes Afghanistan. It's like an angel coming in for you guys. It is, dude. It's like an angel coming. You just sit back.

God is here. You see the guy sit back like this. You're like, yeah. Now you just get brave, dude. You stand up, walk around. You're like, yeah, let's do this. Drop it. Yeah, we had our, we were back there.

That's infantry kids, right? And they did a phenomenal job, 10 Mountain kids. Except on the radio. Except on the radio. Yeah, dude, they were on the radio. And I don't know if they thought they were on their own team freak or what. And that was, that was shit. Damn, I just got a brain fart on the 60 millimeter right there.

He's firing up six. We're firing 60 millimeters. And he's just hand firing it, dude. That thing right there is a money saver when. A money saver. Yeah. When you're just a teen, dude, because we only got like, we got our M4s on our trucks, got our Mark 19s and we got our 50 cals.

But with that thing right there, dude, it's air weapons. So you could drop fucking, you know, 60 millimeter rounds. I think the blast rate is what what, 60 yards or 90 yards? That'll do. Yeah, so you just doop, doop, doop. And you see him. He's just dropping them, dude. Just he dropped them left and right.

Somewhere at Lockheed Martin, they're like, fuck yeah. And you see them, the infantry kids, see how good they're doing? They got a chain. One of the kids are setting a – so you set a charge on it, and it tells you, like, you want to do a one, two. Yeah, you set a charge, like a one, two, three charge to do a one two yeah you set a charge like a one two or three charge on it and that tells you how far it's going to shoot

so if you see him right now they're right there next to him so he's elevating high so that thing's going to go up and come right back down and it can actually you can get it to a pretty close

distance exactly what you want yeah you get it pretty good yeah whoa yep and this is 2014 yeah it's 2014

what do we got in 2015 AI versions of this? Yeah, 2015. Yeah, 2015. Or 2025? Well, now on the trucks now with the AI and the technology they got now, you got sights on a truck now, you know, 1,800 rounds or 1,800 meters. You're getting first-round hits just the way the sights set up.

Once you zero them. Kill machine. Yeah, it is. It's crazy. And what the kids are doing back there, you see they're taking those. If you can rewind that. See him back there? He's taking those yellow things off.

Just see in his hand right there, he's holding that round. It's got a yellow thing on it. That yellow thing is actually, he just took them off. See on the back of it, the tailspin of it? There's nothing on it. Well, it got charges on it that are like gunpowder. If you go back, you can see it. When you take those off, that lessens the distance that those are going to fire.

So right now he's taking that powder charge off. We're still going to ignite, but it's just going to only fire so far. He should have been taking them off right then. Carrying that thing around like a fucking football. Yeah, you can throw them. Like back in Vietnam, believe it or not, they just take those things and hit it on the ground. And they would throw them. And I think, don't quote me, he just took it off.

Don't quote me, but I think it's 13 evolutions when it turns. It arms itself. It arms itself. Yeah, see the yellow thing in his right hand in the back there? You can barely see it. So you throw it like a spiral. You throw it like a spiral. And after 13, I think it's 13, it arms itself.

And any time, I guess, the Viet Cong would get in the wire or get close to the wire, they would just hit them on rocks and throw them, arm them. And then it was just, it was like, it was just, you know, at that point, it's like throwing grenades. That's crazy. Yeah. So that's the charges. That's insane footage right here, by the way. Yeah, it's the head cams, man.

We had to stop wearing them, though, you know what I mean? Why'd you have to stop wearing them? Because people get stupid, man. You know, people are like, oh, my God, you know, innocent women and children are getting killed. Or, you know, what are you doing? And no offense, but, and this is what I tell people. It is so easy to sideline quarterback. Yes.

I can say in sideline quarterback what we could have done a lot better. We did good there. What we could have done a lot better, what we could have done a lot worse. But what I hate is when I get a sideline quarterback that plays. Like, dude, you play video games. You play Halo, bro. Yeah, and they do it in slow-mo. You do it in slow motion.

Yeah. Just like we brought some guys out when I first got in the military. I was working for a company called Oak Grove. We brought out some CNN reporters, and I was in charge of the range. Some CNN reporters? CNN reporters. Sorry to hear that. I know. We brought out some... I think they were from CNN, if I'm not mistaken. I think they were from CNN. Don't quote me, but I think it was CNN. I'm pretty sure.

But what I did was I put them in full body gear, gave them blue barrels, and we took blue tip. I got in the center of the room. They would come in the room and do not light their asses up. Just light them up. And then I'll ask them, I'll say, how long did you have to make that decision?

And then I put targets in there. We call them shoot, no shoot targets. And I think every reporter shot a no shoot target every time, whether it was a kid or a child. And I go, granted, you haven't been trained. And we're out there doing a slow motion. They're not running through the room like we do. Oh, you should have milked this. You fucking child killer child. And I go, granted, you haven't been trained. And we're having them do it in slow motion. They're not running through the room like we do. Oh, you should have milked this. You fucking child killer.

Yeah, I know, dude. I did. I said that at one point. I go, hey, you want to film this right here and release this? And that guy started laughing. He's pretty cool. He took it well. But I told him, I was like, but when y'all sideline quarterback stuff,

you want to tell us what we should be seeing. And we're not even shooting real rounds back at you. That's right. Your buddy didn't just get hit in the floor, and you're still trying to fight that next room. you're doing with paintball runs and you know you're going home tonight what's the worst we break skin because it hits your hand that's about it yeah and i was like so next time you write a report or something you reporting on something like this just think about that that operator's you know mentality just like policing i think they got the worst job in the world dude yeah they're also and by the way they're not as truly as trained not at all

forget even green berets but like like some of the most basic training they put them in the worst position you see some of these videos like some are are bad and you're like okay i don't know about that guy and then you'll see other ones and you'll be like yo no offense that's a donut patrolman yeah like he couldn't even get his gun out. Yeah. You know, it looks like, oh my God, what's that movie where he's like, yeah. Like the Bernie Fife old movies. Yeah.

Exactly. This was over before it started. Yeah. Yeah. But so they made you guys, you wore, you used to wear the head cams and now they don't let you do that anymore. No, no. Some guys are still wearing them, but our team, we stopped wearing them.

Now, was that your call? Yeah, it was the leadership call. And then if we did wear them, we come back. Like, what we wore it for, believe it or not, it was more for us. What are the TTPs that they're doing? Like, that pass right there, we drove through that pass all the time. We got hit all the time. So we would go back and look at it and be like, hey, dude,

they're hitting us here. So if they're hitting us in a certain spot, we would set up what's called a ttp i'm in a trp and that's just a target we set up a target right there where if that's a target already set up we would already have pre-fire set for that target what do you mean pre-fire so if we're going to do a mission we know we're going through the pass i will call up like field artillery i will call up our jtac will call up the fast movers and be like hey dude this grid right here this is a TRP we're setting up

because we get hit from there all the time so now when the fast movers come in they already know where they're going to shoot at if it's coming from that direction so when you get in a firefight

for the most part it's all about time and direction it's all about time you mean how much time you got how fast can you eliminate the enemy and move to the next target period

how many firefights do you think you were in in your career? So many fucking deployments. Fuck, dude. I'd say a few hundred at least. Right? It's got to be that. A few hundred easily,

if not more. I'd definitely say a few hundred. But now, did you get, did you, I mean, obviously your training, we talked about that,

like they really prepare you for it so your instinct kicks in. But still, when it's happening afterwards, like you're like, whoa, my adrenaline was nuts. Did it ever get to a point where you're like, just another day at the office? really prepare you for it so your instinct kicks in but still when it's happening afterwards like you're like whoa my adrenaline was nuts did it ever get to a point where you're like just another day at the office where you're really set in that way that is wow those are the days though when you're scared like not scared those are the days i used to always tell my guys put your fun to wear

on and get your shit together as you always say put your fun to wear on get your shit together because when you start because i've done that before and i don't want to be a hypocrite but when you start looking at like just another day at the office that's when you slip yeah that's when you don't see something that you should have seen or you don't pick up something like a pink rock that's a id initiation point or an ambush initiation point you missed that blue paint it's you know a pile of rocks on the side of the road because you're like another day at the office i'm just fucking relaxing you know my buddy jim diorio has been on the podcast a bunch he was a special forces guy later fbi was west point before all that but he talks about like the gift of fear yeah i know you know he's been doing this all his

life very similar to you and it's like when when the hairs aren't standing up on the back of your neck oh yeah that's not yeah, that's not good. That's not good. Yeah. Anytime we go through the robot pass right there where that firefight was shot at, every time we hit the robot pass, dude, all my guys would be like, you can see it if you look back in the truck and guys are up, eyes are scanning. Like, you know, dude, like, hey, it's time to get it.

Just like in Maroof, in the Maroof Valley in Afghanistan. You knew. Like, hey, dude, you go into Maroof, you get in that firefight. That's a wild, wild west. Why was it so crazy in that part? Because guys knew how to fight there. You know what I mean? The Afghans, all the dumb ones, I always say we kill early.

The dumb ones you kill early. We killed the dumb ones, I would say, from 2001 to about 2008, 2009. You done wiped out all the young fighters just going out there shooting, spraying and praying. After 2006, 2007, 2008-ish, now you're fighting the guys that fought you know the musa dean the guy's been fought in their whole lives they know how to hide they know how to drain back they know the terrain you know these aren't the kids that are playing halo i'm trying to get my body count up no so that's when those guys like all right do we hit them on our terms then they start learning you know i can hit them at the first of the month or mid-month where your lumen is less.

Because at one point we owned the night, and then our nods got so bad that we just started borrowing the night. And then you can buy nods on the regular economy, on the black economy, I should say. Now, you know, you got Eunice out there or you got Taliban out there with night vision. It might not be the best. People are like, oh, but it's crap. Yeah, dude, but it's something.

I mean, so now we don't own the night no more. So if we walk around with our floodlights on, think we don't own it when I can see it, and it's 12 of us, then you just shoot in the ground. Just take your gun and point it at that floodlight and shoot. So, you know, we started just, you know, I think once, you know, the war went on, they progressed just like we progressed. And that's just what you do, I think once, you know, the war went on, they progressed like we progressed. And that's just what you do. Yeah, it's a sad reality.

It is. I think that's pretty accurately put. It's crazy, like, looking at your career. I don't know if you can look at it this way because, like, you're in it. You know, you're so focused on the here and now at every point of it but looking back now you live through the complete trials of modern history here oh yeah you get in what like three years before 9-11 yep right so you're in there you do mission we're gonna talk about that in a minute you do missions in in europe you know in the balkans which is like a forgotten fucking part of history which is crazy to me and then 9-11 happens and

you're in afghanistan you're in iraq and you see it at the beginning where it's like okay we're doing well then we're like why the fuck are we going to iraq then iraq fucking goes south then afghanistan starts falling off and getting crazy again and then you know by the time you leave it's pretty clear what's going to be happening like do you ever think about the gravity of of the history books you actually live through i do i do and then all the stories too you actually lived through? I do. I do. And then all the stories, too. You know what I mean? Just not me, but all the guys and all the stories. Because you've seen it.

I remember when I first came to the Army, which was crazy. It was a peacetime Army. I used to tell guys, I remember when I got in SF, dude, I was like, and I'm not talking about my Green Beret brother, but I'm talking about him. I'd see a bunch of fat dudes and I'm like, what the fuck, dude? Like, I didn't come here for this. Because I was a young guy when I got there young very yeah i was like 20 21 years old most of the guys on the team like i was saying earlier you had to be at e4 to go to selection so most

guys joined the army you were at e4 you were at least 23 24 25 years old well i'm fast track yeah i got fast track so i joined it early so when i got to my first – when I got to third group, dude, when I got to the team, I was the youngest guy on the team for a long time just because most of the guys there were in their mid-30s, early to mid-30s at least. Maybe late 20s, but early mid-30s. So I got to the team, dude. I know I lie about my age all the time.

How old are you, 28, 29? Lie my ass off, dude. Because I remember we would go do PT, and I'd be like, dude, that's all we're doing? Yeah. Because they were older were older guys and i get it and then i remember when the war first kicked off our first deployment when our first deployment six months we came back i remember we came back half of our company man probably coming a lot of guys were getting out they were tired and i called them i called them paper range guys paper range yeah paper range like on the paper shooting paper dude they were on it these guys walking around with scare me bags. They got the halo bags, the scuba bags. I'm like,

when I first got in, I'm like, man, I want to be like that guy. I want to be just like that guy. But then when those bullets really started flying, dude, and we started losing, dude, guys were like, man, I'm two years in retirement. I got 25 years in, I'm done. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? Why are guys getting out? Maybe I was still young and dumb, but I was like, why are guys getting out? And I remember, and dumb but i was like why are guys getting out and i remember dude our company was we lost a lot of dudes in our company man just i'm done they were out and i get it you mean they have high priorities you know but i was more like shit dude let's go get it you know families too yeah exactly i have families and shit and i was more like you get used to the business aspect of it and you realize oh no this is real business

it's real business now yeah it wasn't it wasn't a paper target where nobody's shooting back, dude. I remember guys that I freaking idolized on the range, dude. You see them shooting, you're like, that dude can burn it down. Then you get back off a deployment where, you know, rounds are cracking off around your head, a couple guys get shot through and throughs, and it's like, all right, dude, I'm fucking, this ain't what I'm doing. You know what I mean?

Like, hey, it's a young man's game. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I get it. I had another guy, my friend Joe Tedai was in here as well. He was another army guy and ended up CIA ground branch. But he had talked about his whole career. He was Marines and then left and then went to the army and was in that for like 10, 11 years.

But it was during the peacetime. And it for like 10 11 years but it was during the peace time and it was like he never went anywhere and so he you know he knows his training he knows he knows he can do it but when he was asked to go into cia ground branch he would there was that almost like that second thought like well wait a minute i haven't been out there right like this shit's about to get real and obviously it turned out he could handle it and it turned out great for him but i always wonder like you know you get so used to your surroundings you get used to your habits you get used to your training but you know if that if if you do so many years where the actual adrenaline thing the main thing isn't there and then suddenly it is like that can probably fuck with your head okay that's

what's fucking with a lot of veterans now like especially soft guys I'll speak for soft guys because I'm around them but that's hurting us now guys are taking the own lives you hear about it every day man so many veterans killing themselves which is terrible but a lot of that has to do with that like you think about it for 21 years I told me for 21 years every day I'm surrounded by guys like Rusty Cotterman you know the morning King Alan Williams we were right I'm surrounded by guys that are type A personalities like me. Big Mike, Dick, you know, Dick. All these guys. Baby Jesus, that's what we called him.

Baby Jesus. Yeah, Baby Jesus. But you're surrounded by these guys. Troy Leteira, you know, I'm surrounded by guys. Dave Glenn, you know, Big Juice. I'm surrounded by guys that are type A personalities, want to be the best, dude, no matter what I was telling them

driving here. Dude, if my team would have landed at the airport and we were driving from the airport to come here, it would have been a fucking, it would have been an unknown race. We'd have passed you,

you'd have passed us. We'd have passed you, you'd have passed us. And then you'd have walked by and I kicked your ass. Like, shut the fuck up, dude. We're in a race now. It's always a race.

It's always a competition. So when these guys are living like that and you've been at war for two decades, now all of a sudden you pull these guys out of this. How do you feed that animal? That's right. It's just like I tell guys all the time,

like when they would ask me, when you get a new guy on the team, they'd be like, hey, Johnny, what's combat like? I was like, dude, just revert back to your training. I said, when you first start your first firefight, it's going to be fast to you. Second firefight, it's still going to be fast. Third your first firefight, it's going to be fast to you. Second firefight, it's still going to be fast. Third, fourth firefight, it's going to start to slow down.

By your fifth, sixth firefight, it's going to be like, all right, dude, this shit's moving in slow motion. Is it slowing down because you're making fewer decisions in your head, meaning you're not thinking about every single goddamn thing around you like the first time? You're like, that thing, that thing, that thing. No, no, you're still thinking about you still think about all them things you're you're i call it your your computer processor okay it can just process them so much faster now right so i guess i get slow it feels like it's slow-mo but it's still moving the same speed but just like i do some work some athletes and i always ask athletes can you control time

and i always tell them there's 60 seconds in a minute. There's 60 minutes in an hour. There's 24 hours in a day. Can you control any of that? And a lot of guys, you get yeses and you get nos. I say, I'm not going to say you control time, but you can control what you do in that time. Just like you tell Albert Pujols, one of the best natural raw hitters in baseball.

Incredible. The reason why, that baseball never moved fast to him. Yeah, even his swing looks slow-mo. His swing, because everything moves slow to him. You know what I mean? That's why,

you know, he can play at that level because, and I tell people, like I'll be with parents, they'll be like, you think my kid's a D1 athlete? I'm like, nope,

D3 at best. How can you say that? He's 14 years old. Because at 14 years old, that game's fast as fuck to him. Yeah. say that he's 14 years old i go because at 14 years old that game's fast to him yeah hey guys if you haven't already subscribed please hit that subscribe button it's a huge huge help thank you and the difference between d3 d2 and d1 is the speed of the game and if it's already fascinating d3 d2 is going to swallow him d1 he'll never he'll never excel so send him to a juco let him get you

know that speed of the game if his body can actually pick up the speed of the game and be faster, send him to D2 or D1. Crazy. You can see that at 14. You can see it at 14, dude. See it at 14. And it might be something as simple as my son was a phenomenal baseball player. I hit him on ground ball one time.

He was probably 12. And he went to field the legs right here, but he caught it right here. I looked at my ex. I go, did you see that? She goes, see what? I go, did you see that? She goes, see what? I go, right there. He just showed you a hat and he missed it. And my ex i go did you see that she goes see what i go did you see that she goes see what i go right there he just shows you had and he missed it and my ex go what are you doing my son goes mama i just tried to fill the ground ball with my hand with the glove and he hit a rock

here's a rock right here and i caught it with my hand and he picked the robin through the rock up mom i'm spider-man and i told my wife i said first off he saw the ball he saw the glove he saw a fucking rock and he caught the ball with his bare hand i mean you can't teach that yeah you can't teach that's processing but he was processing he was about eight because i was training him dude he used to go to we got thor which is our gym he's going to work with our training it's called thor thor that's never yeah but he would go there and we got these reaction boards on the wall where you yeah he's been doing that shit since he was like this old so i'm like your reaction time should be good you've been training since you were you know

right six or seven young oh yeah dude he would go work out our trainers i would go to work and he would go to thor yeah my friend louisa nicola she's been on the podcast episode 230 but she's a neurophysiologist nice so she works with everything from like extremely high level, like billionaire executives to pro athletes. And she, and obviously you're a hundred percent right. It's way easier to teach this stuff when you're young, but she'll work with guys who are, you know, 27, 28, 29 or executives who could be in their forties. And she does all this stuff with them to improve their reaction time and build.

Alessia, I'm going to fuck up the terms here and she's going to kill me, but what's it like neuroplasticity? Neuroplasticity. Is that right? That's it. I got that right. Yes, you did. Look at that. That's it. But like there is, you see some guys, Albert Pujols is a great example when he was in his prime, that was the best baseball player I've ever seen. There's just some guys where it just looks different. And they're like, you just know, like there is something there like when they there had to be a day when they were a teenager you know in his case playing pickup baseball or playing in some game where he realized oh shit not everyone else can do this see i i i think the great ones like abu pujos they never notice it never i don't think he ever i think for a

person like abu pujos or guys that are in combat or soft guys, I think you're great operators. They never notice that because they want to keep you hungry. Like, I'm always hungry. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I think once you notice it, you're at the top. Just stay at the top.

If you never notice that, you're always hungry. You know somebody could be better. But once you realize that, it's like, all right, I don't have to practice that hard. that it's like all right i don't have to practice that hard i'm not gonna say they don't notice it i think that when they notice it to be great like michael jordan he knew he had another gear he knew like i can turn this on for a quarter i could score 15 points but what him and kobe did was they kept practicing that's right they kept practicing that's right they kept practicing trying to you right. They kept practicing. They kept trying to perfect their craft. But I think the ones, the true ones that got that true gift, if you can add that with the

mindset to be better, to want them like Rusty, dude, there's no stopping that person. No stopping that person. I agree with you. I think there probably is like, the one thing I'd say is the guys like the pool hoses or like the LeBron James or Allen Iverson, who was fucking 5'10", buck 55 soaking wet, but had a 48 inch vertical. There was probably a point where they realized, okay, I'm in a higher class. But the reality is, and I could say the same thing about the military, when you're playing at the tier one level or whatever, there's a lot of other motherfuckers that have that natural ability too. So you better be on it because they're going to be better than you are.

Yeah. And you're going to be on the bench. Yeah. Because you think about like if you take an SF guy and this happens, say an SF guy goes to OCS, Officer Candidate School, and you send him back to the 82nd, to a regular infantry unit, right? Yeah. As soon as he walks in there, that commander, he's probably going to put that guy in his best platoon. Because he knows what he's bringing to the table do you jeff you basically you just left professional now you're coming back down to jv so we already know what you're capable of just like

if a say i always get hurt you send him back down to you know triple a ball or or or triple three ball or whatever triple a ball you already know once he gets there it's just to get him back into mechanics that's right ball that's it but you know what he's capable of so when you take a green beret or a soft guy or a ranger guy whatever you move them back down to a line unit he's probably gonna be the rock star there no ifs ands abouts about i guarantee it yeah he's a rock star there because he just came from here to go back down here so to him he's on cruise control yeah he can do that shit in his sleep did i go back to your infantry unit i could do that in my sleep well i literally do that in my sleep all right dude cool bunch of pussies around here yeah like you guys can get your shit together you know what i mean like seriously like and i would train them probably like how we

train yeah and i've actually done that before like we've had 80 second squads come out there and you try to train them how we train shooting wise like we shoot north carolina next week i'll show you that's what i'm saying i'll show you training us like this next week you'll do single shots and then we'll go control pairs and then we'll go double taps and you'll be doing all the stuff to how do i reacquire different targets he's already got this planned out we talked about this 10 minutes ago oh yeah how are we gonna do target acquisitions you know john how do i shoot this target i'm watching that target all that stuff dude so i remember my try we trained some 82nd guys and I started showing them that.

And the squad is like, no, no, no. Don't need to learn that. I'm like, bullshit, they don't, dude. You get in a firefight. If you're already putting two rounds in that guy, my eyes should be transitioning to the next target. Period. Just put two in him and not go back to him. Not go back to him.

And that's just basically coming from professional going right down to JV. It's also like, and i mean this in a good way like you had you had such an advantage here not just the timing of coming in when you did what ended up going down but also the fact that you did get fast-tracked and it's literally all you knew oh yeah like in a sense like you were at the very beginning like your basic training then boom go to green berets within a year or something like that and now you're at that highest level and that's the bar that you're in the

NBA, you know? And you can't come down from that. Yeah. And guys, you tell me just like right now, I run ultras, I run marathons.

The guys are always saying like, why are you always running? I'm like, dude, what if some shit pop off tomorrow? Like, like seriously, like what if something happened tomorrow?

You know what I mean? Like you never know. I'm ready. Yeah. We started on a subway, do some pop off and dude jumps out of the subway and takes off running. You fucked up, dude. I'm old, but I can still get it. I'm gonna run your ass down was talking about on the subway. Dude, something pop off and dude jumps out of the subway and takes off running. You fucked up, dude. I'm old, but I can still get it.

I'm going to run your ass down. You know what I mean? You know, I'm running you down, put hands on you. And you're like, hey, I got him right here. Come on in here. You know what I mean? But then I look at guys, and I tell my SF brothers all the time, soft guys, military guys in general, not just SF guys. We get out, dude, and we lose that that sense of not pride but we

lose that sense of purpose is what i like to call it it's purpose because dude i got buddies right now man i'm talking out with fucking studs they can barely walk through that door i'm like look at you man you look like you had a small asian child just slow bro it's like i do man i called them out and the ones that i call out my buddies buddies that I call out that are true, dude, I'm going to throw my buddy Gene Harris on the bus. We went and played golf down in Florida. Oh, no. I'm going to have Gene watch this.

I said, Gene, you used to be the vainest motherfucker I knew, dude. Good-looking brother, man. He's just yoked, man. You look at him and be like, I wouldn't fuck that dude. And he carried himself like, dude, and he was a stud. Well, he retired. His wife retired. He got him a little gut going. I said, Gene, what the hell going he's like you know what johnny you right bro and now he's back on

workout regime man looking good dude looking i'm like damn great in 30 days i know i'm like hey you need to slow down gene slow down bro like you're making me look bad now you know but now he's looking good dude now he's calling out other brothers like hey man look at you look at who like julio greg and all them guys everybody now know, man, I golf with all my buddies. Now, bro, they're starting back to work out. They're starting back to get that purpose. Well, hey, dude, you're a fucking Green Beret. I don't want to know about what you used to do and what you were.

It's what can you do for me now? Yeah. If I call you and tell you some of us just kidnapped my daughters, I want to know that, hey, bro, we got to move 2K to go get my daughter back, that I ain't calling the med back because you fell out at the mile and you couldn't make it. 2k to go get my daughter back that i ain't calling a med back because you fell out at the mile and you couldn't make it or you know god forbid you die because you're unhealthy and now johnny glenn's gotta be a father to your kids and nobody wants that you know i'm gonna be nobody none of my

friends want that shit real motherfuckers yeah that kid's gonna be some real but dumb as hell just anger as hell just want to shoot my book he's like what did you teach him i've been sticking zero fast you know so but yeah i still my buddies about that man just it's all about your product your environment yeah but you know it's also like i think about this with pro athletes too you know they spend their entire lives assuming they were good in high school obviously and like playing at a high level where everything's like scheduled out for them. They're training all the time. They're on, they're on, they're on.

They're basically working a 60 hour a week job from the time they're 15. And then if they, you know, when they go pro and they turn in this great, you know, 15 year career, now you get up to 36, 37, you retire. The only thing you've known for more than half your life is this schedule and this constant move. And now suddenly it's like, you might have millions of dollars or something but you're like what do i do with it what the fuck yeah yeah and it's the same for you guys in the sense that they're not paying you millions of dollars unfortunately but like you're going home and every day especially if you were in a wartime era there was some sort of overhanging idea of life and death and just the man beside you and

you're in these really tight knit in your case like you know 10 12 man teams you're going all these places you're doing fucking 15 deployments everywhere and now it's like i'm gonna go plague off to it yeah like that's that's gotta be tough i tell you what and it's funny you said that because the military is getting all right and you know i'm a i'm a member of team red white and blue and we'll get in that but we're about to run the flag across America. But anyways, we'll get into that later. But what I like about Team Red, White, and Blue, what they're doing is, just like Task Force, Dagger,

Green Beret Foundations, they're getting like-minded people around each other. So like I was telling you earlier, if you get a bunch of Green Berets in a room, you give them a test for soft guys, you probably can get the same answers. So in other words, we speak the same language. So where I think the military in general,

all these nonprofit organizations, for the most part, where I think they were getting it wrong was they were sending us all off to get fixed. Hey, send this guy to get psychedelic treatment. Send this guy to talk to his best doctor in the world. Send him to go get his brain fixed.

Send him to go get TBI. Well, the sad part about it was you sending him to all these places to get fixed then he's coming right back to an environment that he he knows an environment that's toxic to him

and that environment usually is his wife and kids not that his wife and kids are toxic it's just that you just send him off and he's fixed

now he comes back and he walks into a room I did it with my ex you walk into a room you think you're all fixed now she's just poking a bear she don't know the things that trigger me but she's gonna poke the bear now for you know what i'm pissed off of her for no fucking reason other than she poked a bear

but what they're starting to do now which i like is to incorporate if we're sending johnny motherfucking glenn off to get help his wife and kids are going with him that way they see you put them in a room and they understand like, hey, the reason why dad's checking the locks three or four times a night because he don't want no help from y'all. It's not that he's paranoid. Stop saying he's paranoid. He just want to make sure, hey, dude, let me double check, double check,

double check, recheck. Because guess what? I don't have Rusty Cotterman laying in the room next to me. I don't have Alan William in the truck lying next to me. Will Wright's not on security right now. Dick Wolf's not in the truck, you know, monitoring the radio. So guess what? It's just me now.

So now I got to make sure those locks are checked. I got to make sure those windows are locked. I got to peep in your bedroom and make sure you're fine. People have to want to make sure nobody's driving through the neighborhood acting crazy. And they've never seen the hills of Tora Bora. They've never seen it. And I have.

And you bring it home. And so, and then for the military to think that that and that's what kills me about the military they want you know and i got into it my commander one time i had a guy that was about to get a dui and i went off on my commander about they wouldn't give him a dui because he went to a club he parted all night went to sleep in his truck cop pulls up he's got a cop running got his car running cops give him a dui what he ended up giving you but he beat it. And I told my command, he did everything right, dude. He did everything right.

He's sitting in his truck, sleeping it off. That's a crazy rule. He did everything right. Did everything right. And I was like, if you didn't get that guy a DUI for that right there, you might as well fire my whole team because we're walking out. We're done. And you're about to lose about $12, $13 million.

My cousin had that happen to him. He was somewhere far away from home. He was at like a party. you're about to lose about 12 13 million dollars my cousin had that happen to him he went he was somewhere far away from home he was at like a party and he was like i'm not driving so he his car was off his keys are in his pocket he goes to like sleep in his trunk and a cop knocks on the door they give him a dy not for me i'm like that's crazy to me dude i got a lot of cop friends i love law enforcement because but to me, and this is me talking, and I hope the cop that sees this, if you're ever in this situation, that's fucking sad, dude.

If I was a cop, honestly, I'm not perfect. I would take that guy's keys, tell him you're doing the right thing. I'll be back in two hours. Exactly right. I'll come back and check on you, dude. I got to make my rounds anyways. I'll come back and check on you. But I'm not going to write you a DUI for falling asleep with your keys in your pocket.

Yeah, I don't want to say this is like a write-off to any law ever that's been made. But to me, and this should absolutely apply within how people apply the law, you know, like officers of the law. It's like intentions are everything. It is. That doesn't mean people always get it right. But like, what did they intend? If he intended to do the right thing, putting his keys in his pocket, that's enough for me, dude. Yeah.

That's enough for me. I'm going to take his keys. Or better yet, I'm probably going to tell me dude yeah that's enough for me i'm gonna i'm gonna take his keys or better yet i'm probably gonna tell him get in my squad i'm gonna take you home yeah and when you get ready to come back to your truck tomorrow call me somebody come pick you up it's that simple yeah because you know it's serve first and then protect so that is serving the public right there for sure so no but on on your point about you know reintegrating and things that, just even with your family and stuff like you, were you married really young? Yeah, I got married about 24, 25. Okay.

So, and you have this 21 year career. So when you get out, how many kids do you have? Three. They're all teenagers at this point when you get out? Yeah. Something like that? Yep. And you were deployed, you never took time off.

So you're deployed all the time. How long was your average deployment? Six to eight months. I'd say, no, four to seven, maybe, four to seven, five to seven. So half of every year, you're gone. Guaranteed, guaranteed. My son's 25 years old. I spent seven Christmas with him, seven.

Was that hard being a dad? Me and him had a big heart to heart. Well, I'm not going to say it was hard being a dad Because I love being a dad All three of my kids They can drive a stick They can shoot their asses off The things that matter

The things that matter And my exes always say You're brainwashing our kids Like dude they can walk in a room They can tell you everything That I can tell you about What they see How to take down a room

They know points of domination They're little operators man if i need them you know like they're little operators that's great yeah oh yeah and so i'm not gonna say being a dad was hard it was being gone was hard but then you kind of know like all through my kids the first word we taught him was sacrifice first word we taught him and i told him daddy's making a sacrifice and so i'll give a shout out to my ex man sadie she was a phenomenal woman and most green boy wives are phenomenal women because they know what they're getting into so for the most part dude our wives a soft wife or a military wife in general or a military husband they know your spouse might be gone a lot

so guess what you might be mom and you might be dad. Yeah. And my ex did a phenomenal job of that, dude. I can't hands down to her as being a great mom. I would never, never say anything negative about her being a mom because she basically raised our kids because she would get pissed at me because I'd be gone for, you know, five to seven months. And when I come home, guess what? Daddy's the best because

kids want to step to nine? Fuck it. They want to step to 11? Fuck it. You know what I mean? She looks like the bad guy. Yeah, I'll take you to school yeah you'll miss the day of school don't worry about it that's why we've seen this private school we're going to shoot tomorrow she's like what'd y'all do today oh daddy took a shooting today took a shooting she's like you know they missed school today i will write him a note they're fine because i'm like hey i've been gone you know it's time for me to get my time i get it yeah and then you know and she'd be like no you can't do that or i'd come on and mess up her routine i'm supposed to take the kids you know i take the kids i pick them up this time pick them up this time she'd be like no no no i got

a routine set up don't mess it up like dude she cursed me out i mean yelled and cursed me one time for going to pick tal up from school one day because of course she knew 3 30 i go pick him up at school well i get off i'll leave the team room that day at like 12. I'm going to get T-boned. We're going to hang out. I go pick him up. She go to work. This is my son. Like, this is my kid.

She go pick him up, and she's freaking the fuck out. Do you have Tyler? I'm like, yeah, he's right here with me. What's the problem? Yeah, I picked him up at 12.30. Yeah, what's the problem? Principal's tied up in the back. Yeah, exactly.

She's like, well, you pick him up at 12.30. I was like, the principal actually told me after 12 o'clock, they're going to see the president. So, dude, I pick my kid up at 1210 all the time, dude. 1210, 1215. Let's go, big guy. You're president. You got 10 absences.

We're going to get all nine of those. Every year, dude, nine absences. We get them. But you got for, and if I'm going to stuff you don't want to talk about here, by the way, just say that. But you guys, you stayed married for your whole career and you didn't get divorced until after. Pretty much, yeah. It was like when I was transitioning and I got divorced.

Was that because it was so difficult to transition from, you know, now suddenly constantly being in each other's lives? I say yes. I say yes to it and I also say no to it. I say yes to it and the fact that I wouldn't talk to a counselor like we always have to do. I think we have to talk to a counselor every six months. I don't ever get it. I wouldn't go see this counselor.

Since I was transitioning, it was a civilian counselor. I remember I walked in, and the first thing he told me was, hey, I heard a lot about you because a lot of soft guys use this guy, and he's good. The first thing that guy told me was, have a seat. He goes, Johnny Muffin Glenn, right? I was like, yep. He goes, Johnny guy told me was, have a seat. He goes, Johnny motherfucking Glenn, right? I was like, yep. He goes, Johnny motherfucking Glenn, you're nothing.

I'm looking at the dude like, who the fuck is this guy, dude? Like, nothing. I'm like, check this fucking dude. And he goes, look here, your name, that Johnny motherfucking Glenn? He goes, dude, that's nothing more than a reputation. He goes, you're a father, you're a son, you're a brother, you know, you're a loved one, you're an uncle. And dude, he went saying this shit to me. He goes, you're a father, you're a son, you're a brother,

you're a loved one, you're an uncle. And dude, he went saying this shit to me. I'm looking at him, I'm like, okay. He said, so now what I want you to do is put Johnny motherfucking Will in a little box right now because what you got to do is be a husband. You got to be a father. You got to be all these things that you haven't been over the years.

And dude, when he told me that, man, it hit me like a fucking brick. It hit me like somebody punched me flat in the fucking face i was like holy duck like how do i be those things i haven't been those things you know i mean i feel like i was a great dad but i'm was i truly there no i was going all the time so how do i you know it's like you just said earlier you know you've been doing this since you're 15 years old, professional athlete, you got millions of dollars. Now all of a sudden, you're asked to just be a human,

like be you. And it's like, holy fuck, dude, I got to get a schedule. I got to get a real job. My job was going to work 9 o'clock, working out at 10, 11 o'clock, going shooting at a range, shooting the shit with the boys, going to Hooters, looking at boobies,

and then going the fuck home. Like, now I got to go get a real job like a nine to five fuck did i get a nine to five and all this is going through your head how do i protect my family you mean i'm leaving the team even though this is my family but that's my family yes like holy fuck dude like what do you do now and dude that's a hard pill to swallow man and you just you realize like fuck dude like i made some big mistakes then you go back and you try to tell people like hey i fucked up here i fucked up there and the sad part about it is you know with a soft wife they know how you're trained too so soft wives they'll say like now

you're just using what your training is i don't think there's no wrong you ain't got no damn ptsd i'm like do you not know what the hell we've seen and what we've done you know what i mean yeah but in their eyes and they know like you're cut differently and women that come out as they know dude they know we're cut differently we know we're cut a little different you know i mean like and you know like they said good girls like bad boys you know it's just that's the way it is you know oh yeah you know i mean so at the end of the day what i would say to all the soft wives out there and husbands that are watching this i'll sit in my sf brother and hey dude don't be afraid to say, I'm fucked up a little bit. Let me fix me.

Because we're always facing out. Sometimes we've got to face in and look in the mirror and say, hey, yeah, dude, I'm fucked up. And then be man enough to say, hey, I'm fucked up. Now let me go get help to fix me. And by the way, wife, that I'm loving, I want to be with for the rest of my life, I'm going to bring you along with me because this is a team effort.

And if we do that, I think that, you know, I think we'll cut back on the suicides. We'll cut back on the divorces because guys got to have purpose, dude. Yes. In the military, bro, I had purpose. I had 12 motherfuckers that was competitive. Well, that's the thing. You have such the highest degree of purpose. It's life and death purpose.

You can't re-simulate that. And you can't shortchange that. No. You can't say, hey, dude, I'm going to take a day off and I'm going to go to the range and I'm just going to blast his hammer. No, I'm going to shoot this shit because we're leaving in a couple of months.

I'm not going to be that guy. That's right. Hey, I'm going to run on Saturday and Sunday. Hey, I'm going to do this because I need to be at the level of Rusty Cotterman. I need to be at the level of Will.

I need to be at the level of DeMarney. I need to be at the level of Stacey. I need to be at all these guys' level, Big Mike, because if shit goes down, I want them to know they can fucking count on me. Right.

You know what I mean? So, and that's the way you look at it. And life's the same way. You know what I mean? If you view your kids the same way like I view my kids now, they're my teammates.

You know what I mean? I want to be there for them. I want to live long for them. I want to make sure when they come to me for a problem, I got a good sound judgment answer not like i'll blow it up you know now it's like all right i'm an adult now you know what i mean it's like no tyler maybe man you know you should be thinking about this or let's think about

this you know your career is going here what about this you know i'm thinking for them like all right now it took you time to get to that you had to get to that point yeah because dude we're just a bunch of i hate to say soft guys and military guys we're just a bunch of immature kids man we're just a bunch you think about it dude we got a bunch of guns around us we're shooting all the time we're in shape and dude you just want to fucking party you just want to tear shit up like that's what you want to do so now all of a sudden you got to come back you got to cut fucking grass wash the car go get state inspections on the car really yeah it's It's like fuck dude. This is this is work and boring ain't boring like this is boy I'm gonna go sit at DMV for two hours

And then the whole time I didn't be I'm sitting there like dude I can make this so much more proficient Good lord You mean like holy shit, dude, I just need a renewal those guys that you know that a down there on that You know, I did on the fuck they're doing and you don't have nobody to speak Spanish and you've been working this guy for 20 minutes trying to figure this shit out. Like, fuck, hire a translator. Let's get this shit done.

I could have been gone two hours ago. Yeah, DMV is the happy shack. That's what I call it. It is, man. They hire the happiest people in America to work there. I know. It's like, damn it. Then you're just sitting in line like, number 12.

I'm like, damn, they're going to never get to number 20. Yeah. damn it then you're just sitting in line like number 12 I'm like damn dang I never get to number 20 yeah and I would imagine like little things like that sets you off right they gotta annoy you a lot more

it does cause you're used to this is how it goes but then after a while after a while you learn like now I've learned how to deal with that I've learned how to cope

but it takes time it takes a lot of time it takes a lot of time to just say like cause you gotta think about it most I ain't gonna say all but I would say

99.9% of soft guys are ADHD we probably just need a fucking a rat a fucking what is it what do you take

when you're ADHD Adderall Adderall we should have an Adderall pump inside of our fucking stomach just constantly pumping that shit

you know like hey man I'm set on 12 today we're good to go you know cause we can't just sit there, dude. Yeah. It's like, we got to be making it, like, make shit happen. So when we go on a DMV, dude, it's sitting there like, oh, fuck.

I could take her job if she just did this, this, and this. You would knock down your fucking time of seeing people by 30 fucking minutes. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, so for us, man, it's just always, and that's why usually, man, like, if you go to our halls, we got project after project after project after project. And Wiles would get mad because he's like, you got 10 different projects, you did not finish one. Because fuck, I go work on that one about two hours and I'm bored with it.

I'm going to the next one. And that's how it goes. And that's how it goes. You know what I mean? He's like, all right, I'm doing this, doing this. Just finish one. So I've been, really been trying to like just finish one project at a time. If I'm doing something, I want to do one thing at a time just to get it done.

So slow it down. Yeah. But it takes time because we're not built like that. We're not built to go solo. Was it like when you come home and your career turns off and we're going to come back to the beginning of Johnny's career soon. I just want to go through this tangent right now. Is it kind of like like the only way you would ever experience marriage and the relationship was when you were on which means you're gone half the time and you

have this purpose was it almost like you're married to a new person because of your surroundings that made it good that actually made it good i tell people all the time if i wouldn't got out me and my wife right now would still be married. No doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind. I was going long enough to piss. I was home long enough to piss her off. But gone long enough for her to miss me. Because usually it's just a honey-do list.

Like, hey, can you do this? Can you do that? You need some muscle around the house. All right, I'm back. Fix the dryer. Fix the washer. Cut the grass. Whatever.

You're shipping out to like tour a boy. She's like, thank God. Thank God that my wife is leaving. I'm like, yes like yes all she's gotta do is keep the house clean that way if he gets killed you know people ain't coming to the house and it's a dirty house you know what like so you know at the end of the day you know like and now you're with each other all the time when you're now you're with each other all the time do you see all the nuances you see all the little things that would probably set her off like Like, why are you mad about that? Like, why have we been here?

Why are we waiting this fucking line so long? Where's our food at? You know, you're sitting there ordering to eat. It's like, we ordered 10 minutes before they even got here, and they got their food before we did. You ever feel like you don't know each other? Yeah, a lot, yeah. Because there's two different yous. You know what I mean?

Like, if you look at all of the tests of soft guys, somewhere in there, dude, I guarantee you, you're bipolar or close to it. And you're borderline psychopathic. I guarantee it. Whether they want to admit it or not, like all those tests we took, I can tell you right now, you're borderline psychopathic. And you're definitely borderline, you know, you got to be. You're borderline bipolar. Because who in their fucking right mind would say, I'm going gonna go storm that building and somebody's shooting at me no fucking body right it's fucking stupid dude my guys rush to be like hey john i'll beat you there

now it's a competition you mean so that's interesting that's but that's the way you designed it yeah and they're looking for that yeah we've had this conversation before with some of the cia guys that come come on and they've all concurred. Like you used the word psychopath right there. That makes sense for what you're doing, which is knocking down doors more before shit. With CIA in a similar lane, they're looking for guys who are – for case officers. They're looking for guys who are dangerously treading the line of being a sociopath. Meaning hopefully they're not quite one but they're

like right there because they have to be able to no pun intended disassociate in some way and break the rules from humanity that guy's got to be able to break the rules and know that it's for the greater good yeah you know what i mean we do it all the time dude we call it gray area and you get some the gray area you got black and white and then i always tell people You got black and white. And then I always tell people, you got black and white, Johnny motherfucking Williams is in the gray area. I live in that gray area. Because my dad told me, dude, I think I was 12 maybe. My dad said something that always sticked with me. He had done something that he basically stole something one time.

And I remember I told my dad, I was like, oh, you just stole that. He goes, shut up, boy. He says, let me tell you something. Sometimes the wrongest thing you'll do will be the rightest thing you do. And sometime the rightest thing you do will be the wrongest thing you do. And I just looked at him like, the fuck does that even mean? As I got older, dude, and I got an SF, I know exactly what the fuck he means now. Because he was stealing something to give to somebody who really fucking needed it.

And it was like a Robin Hood thing. At the time, I thought it was wrong because you taught me my whole life don't dash or not steal but i just want you to take something give it to somebody else and then it's like same thing in afghanistan you know you get some warlord that can get you close to the taliban that you know is making ids i'm putting a guy in my hip pocket yeah i got to yeah because i'm in the greater good is i'm gonna save lives right it's like even though I know he's what's the math trade off here

what's the trade off here I'm saving American lives I'm saving Afghan lives but I'm getting in bed with a warlord I'm getting in bed with a bad guy same with the CIA guys

you got to you talk about this Monday morning quarterbacking with you know some of the body cam and stuff like that but when it comes to the real world and the way I when it comes to the real world

and the way I'm going to define the real world is shit that's not good like we have it here in America, the shit that you've spent your entire adult life seeing. Do you ever feel like people here from a Monday morning quarterback perspective just don't understand that there's almost no such thing as a 100% win or even 100% loss. It's going to have some sort of tradeoff.

It is. And we just need to – I hate to say a wake-up call, but our country always needs a wake – not always, but we definitely need a wake-up call now. Uh-oh. If you think about it, we need a wake-up call. I tell people all the time, September 11th was a fucking wake-up call for us. Yeah, that's why I say uh-oh. That's one of the only times in history, if you look at it, dude, we came together –

well, we came together before, but September 11th during my generation or during my era, we came straight the fuck together. There was no black. There was no white. There was no Hispanic. There was no wall. There was nothing that said if you were fucking American, you wanted to punch whoever the hell punched us in the mouth. Period.

Even if you weren't American and you were here, you wanted to punch whoever punched in the mouth. And we came together. For once, dude, the news wasn't reporting, oh, my God, cop slain teenage black kid. Or, oh, my God, story gets robbed by, you know, meth head in South Alabama. You know, the shit that sparks people. None of that shit was on the news, dude. Only thing that was on the news was the Twin Towers coming down. And all people wanted to do was sign up.

How do I defend? That's right. How do I help? How do I support? That's right. How do I help? How do I support? You know what's crazy? Like 10 months before that, we had like the most, at the time, the most contentious presidential election ever. Big time. And it was like, and it was this time where some people were like, no, I think Gore won.

And people are like, no, I think Bush won. Yeah. Out the window. Out the window. Me and you could have been president. People didn't give a fuck. All we wanted to do was go get retribution for the people that killed innocent Americans.

That's all we wanted to do. And it's hard to make Americans think like that every day, but people got to know that there's some cruel people out there that want to bring harm to America, period. Just because we're America. We're the greatest nation in the world. And if you don't think we're the greatest nation in the world, look how many people are trying to come here. That's right. And look how many people are trying to leave. It ain the greatest nation in the world. People, if you don't think we're the greatest nation in the world, look how many people

trying to come here. That's right. And look how many people trying to leave. It ain't that many of us leaving. And for the people that want to leave, call me.

I'm broke, but I'll get you a ticket. First ticket out this motherfucker. You know what I mean? I'll call a couple buddies. Go to Kabul. Yeah, exactly.

I'm sending you straight to the Maroo. You don't like it? And you know what I mean? Like, but if people just came to our alley, because I think we live in our own little world.

Yes. Because we do want the American dream. We want the picket fence. We want the house. We want our kids going to college. We want our grandkids. That is the American dream. And I hope everybody lives that.

But the reality is that there's people out there that want to hurt you. There's people out there. Even in America, there's people that want to hurt us. There's people out there that want to. I tell people all the time, the easiest job in the world is being a criminal. Dude, I could be a criminal tomorrow and be a multimillionaire. No doubt in my mind. Because look at how dumb people are.

Yeah. People just are dumb, dude. At the airport now, I'm looking at people like, holy shit, man. People are just fucking dumb. They just don't think, dude. They don't. They just don't think at all. I'm like, come on, man.

Just no situational awareness whatsoever. It's crazy with all with all like the tier one guys i've talked to over the past few years now and stuff the way you guys have changed my basic worldview of how to just walk down the street and just pay attention and i never even thought about that it happened naturally because now i pay attention to shit that i probably don't need to pay attention to. So thanks for filling my head with that. But still, it's like you see all these situations where shit can just pop off and go blissfully unaware.

That's like I tell people all the time. I don't want a sideline quarterbacking. But when I hear about this guy walked into a mall, he walked into a store and shot up a building with an AR. How the fuck did he walk all the way across the parking lot with an AR? Yeah. With an AR and nobody saw it. Yeah.

Like, dude, that shit baffles the shit out of me. Like, how do you do that? And if he's wearing something to hide it, I'd be like, dude, that dude's walking a little weird. Let me pay a little attention here. You know what I mean? But you see it. Like, guys walking malls.

Dude, it's like, how the hell does that happen how does that happen you mean how does a kid walk into school with an ar a kid with an ar and and people don't notice it because one usually likes right here people on their damn phones 24 7 that's a problem and then another thing i think with our country too is people just don't like to say shit dude like my biggest problem is man if i see it i call it like i see it and i've always been like that you know i mean my dad used to say call a spade a spade call like it is yeah and i call it exactly i see it dude and you either love me or you hate me there ain't no in between it ain't no i kind of like johnny it ain't no gray area on that shit you either love him or you hate him you know i mean my ex at times hate me if it's a kid's birthday She might love me

But there ain't no in between Oh he's alright You don't get that shit from Out of me and dude You don't get that from anybody You either love Johnny Glenn Or you hate him And if you hate him

Well they know where you stand Yeah but if you hate him Say why you don't like him Like I had a guy on my team Troy Luteri one time Got in a fight with a guy Well he smacked the guy one time Cause the guy goes

You smacked him Yeah he smacked the shit out of his dude He goes I don't like Johnny motherfucking Glenn I don't like that motherfucker Troy goes why don't you like him He goes that motherfucker Called me fat And then Troy Glenn. I don't like that motherfucker. Troy goes, why don't you like him? He goes, that motherfucker called me fat.

And then Troy's like, well, you fat, motherfucker. That's why you like, fix yourself. Like, and I didn't even tell the guy he's fat. I was like, damn, dude, you might want to fucking, you know, start working out a little more. You did it nice. I did. I did. I was politically correct.

You know what I mean? Like, I did. My buddy Dwayne Jones, I'll never forget this quick story. My buddy Dwayne Jones, he's watching this. He's our Echo on the Team, Echo Mo guy, right? Dude, we got in an argument. This was like 2011, maybe, 8, 7, 9, somewhere. And we're on our way back to Afghanistan.

My team star was single at the time. And my team star had this female in a hanger while hanging out. She's a stripper. At least we called her a stripper. She probably wasn't a stripper, but she dressed like a stripper. I was so confused. But anyways, but he was single. She's a stripper. At least we called her a stripper. She probably wasn't a stripper, but she dressed like a stripper. I was so confused. But anyways,

but he was single. You know, he was a single guy, you know, and dude, I go to fuck off on my team, and I did it wrong.

I was wrong, but I go off in front of him and the whole company. So I'm like, what? Because I asked one of the kids, where's your dad at? Oh,

he's still on the plane. Well, why is your dad on the plane? And of course, I go right to team. So why the fuck do you sit about and never leave him?

You're single. And in my eyes, you're a single go right to Team Shark. Why the fuck didn't you just about to leave him? You're single. And in my eyes, you're a single Team Shark dude. You should be on that fucking plane. This guy's got kids. He should be with his kids. I won't call no names. And Dwayne Jones, I go off on the Team Shark. I mean, I go the fuck off.

And Dwayne Jones, we're standing at the back of the ramp of the plane. They're going to let the ramp up. And he comes back there. He goes, the fuck is wrong with you? I go, what do you mean? I go, man, he should have went out there, pulled a guy off the plane. And I'm let the ramp up. And he comes back there. He goes, the fuck is wrong with you? He goes, I was, what do you mean? I go, man, he should have had, you know, he should have went out there, pulled a guy off the plane, da-da-da. And I'm going to fuck off.

And Dwayne goes, you know what your problem is, Johnny Glenn? I go, what's my problem? He goes, you know your problem, Johnny, motherfucker. Glenn says, what's my fucking problem? He goes, you got no fucking tack. That's your problem. And I'm looking at him. I'm like, and at the time, dude, I didn't know what the fuck tack meant.

I didn't. So I'm usually like, hey, motherfucker, you come with me. I'm going to come back. You're like, thank you. I go, what? I look time, dude, I didn't know what the fuck tack meant. I didn't. So I'm usually like, hey, motherfucker, you come with me. I'm going to come back. You're like, thank you. I go, what? I look around, dude. So it felt like 10 minutes, but I'm shaking my head. I'm like, what?

I'm all tack, motherfucker. And I walk off. So I walk up to one of the officers. I'm like, hey, what the fuck does tack mean? He goes, you know, Johnny, how you approach something. You know, like, you be tackful about it, you know? I was like, that's what I mean? He's like, yeah, tack me.

I was like, what the fuck did he say tactful to me? And he said tact. He goes, what's wrong? Dude, that whole flight, I couldn't sleep. Because it's in my head that Dwayne just told me I wasn't tactful. I'm like, fucking, you know, I'm tactful. So the whole time he's sleeping, dude, I'm looking at him like, that motherfucker. So as soon as he woke up, dude, we went back at him.

We were arguing about it. And he's one of my best friends, man. We were arguing about tact and all this shit. I was like you know man fuck you I ain't got plenty of tack he goes

why would you tack for dude just pull the team star on the side and talk to him tell him he's wrong Johnny he's like your biggest problem is cause

I let my emotions get the best sometimes you know what I mean because these are my brothers man like I care about this guy I love this guy I would die for him

and to see him on the fucking bird watching the gear and his kids running around my kids when our single team star with no kids in my eyes as a leader dude I would have been on that plane and to see him on the fucking bird watching the gear and his kids running around, my kids, when our single team started with no kids,

in my eyes, as a leader, dude, I would have been on that plane. My guys would have been out there with their kids. That's right. My guys would have been like, hey, where's the team start? Oh, I'm right here with the gear. Okay, cool. Now you also set an example of this is what a leader does for his guys. You know, so, but yeah, dude, like, and that shit hit me hard, man. I ain't got no tack.

I'm all tack, motherfucker. Because I didn't know what to say. You know what it means now. I know what it means now, but I knew when he said I didn't have it. I didn't know if I had it or not. So the best thing for me to do is say I'm all tack. I was like, I'm all tack, motherfucker. And I didn't even give him time to say something.

He went to go knife hand me, and I just walked off, dude. I was like, what the fuck, and I walked off. But yeah, dude, that's what I think our country, I got off topic. That's what I think our country needs, man. And nothing as big as 9-11, but we just need a smack in the face every now and then to let people realize that you ain't living in that little bubble, that little safe, like that little safe haven. Like people walk around like, I don't want anything to go wrong.

Yeah. Like, no, dude, if it it's wrong just call it up i always say this you know with the exception of the war of 1812 and then obviously some terrorist attacks you know we've never been invaded as a country and it shows it does and it's like you know i i cringe when i and i fully understand why you say it a lot of people say it from your position i cringe when i hear like oh you understand why you say it. A lot of people say it from your position. I cringe when I hear like, oh, we need something like that to happen again or something like that because I hope it wouldn't come to that. But when – it's not that like even America has been at peacetime here.

We've had all these wars, these endless wars over the last two and a half decades, but they're over there. And in modern warfare, we don't have the draft, right? Because wars fought a little bit differently. I guess for these ones, you need less men than you would have needed in World War II and shit like that. But like there's something about the tragedy of comfort and – why can't I think of the word right now? Complacency that sets in and when you give society time like that and when you also give them things that are problematic like an economy a shrinking middle class the american dream not quite what it was and stuff like that it naturally starts to turn in on itself yes and we've been at that point for a while now and i hope without some sort of crazy impetus you know people can disagree on politics

and like that i fully understand that but like if we could be a little more civil about that and focus on the things that actually matter at a high level that would be amazing yeah oh i totally agree and that's the problem we focus on though it don't matter yeah dude like i was telling you earlier i very seldom watch tv very seldom watch tv good for you so if you ask me anything that's going on current events couldn't tell you i events, I couldn't tell you. I'm dead serious. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't, man, because I just don't get tied up in the shit. You've got to live happier that way, too. And I do, man.

It's all about, like me, I've got a little farm in North Carolina, dude. I go to my little farm, get away from everything, dude, and that's where I spend my time at. I don't like, you know, because it seems like to me it's all about how do we turn each other against each other? Yes. How do we turn black against white? That's right. How do we make more drama than what we need it's like no dude there's enough drama in the world we don't need anymore we'll need that shit let's just do

another as we want done done to each other and that's it and if we do that dude we gotta we got a good country well it's because we always have access to this that's exactly what it is we can always go look at everything everything that's anecdotal looks like the definition. Flashing fucking news. You know what I mean? It's like, what the fuck, dude? Yeah. And the algorithms don't help.

They don't. I see it all the time with, you know, I'll start looking at one thing. I'm like, all right, let me keep looking at this and let's see how fast it's my whole feed. And it's within a half hour. Oh, yeah. And it's your whole feed full of it. Oh, yeah. It's wild, man.

Oh, trust me. I know. Because if I get on Instagram and I look at some girl that's dancing nice. Everything. And she's nice body. Dude, that's my whole. Don't hit search. That's all that comes up.

I'm like, what the hell is going on here, dude? Like, damn, I was looking for some Morgan Waller music. And it's like, all you see is fucking yoga pants. I'm like, well, shit. Let me check that out. Then it's 4 o'clock in the morning. You're like, motherfucker. That AI gets you, dude. It's like, son of a. Just got to be careful. Because sometimes four o'clock in the morning. You're like, motherfucker. The AI gets you,

dude. It's like, son of a. Just got to be careful because sometimes you got to check between the lines. Hey, we talked about this earlier. You call twice,

turn right, turn left. You got to run a whole background check nowadays, dude. It'll show up in the feed too. You're like, wait a minute.

Wait a minute. It's like the Leo meme. Like, oh, here I come. Let me share this with all my friends. Do not. I repeat, do not.

Do not DM. Do not DM this one. Yep. Yeah. All right. Well, that's a good. I always love getting the mentality of the guys who understand it more than I ever could and understand it more than most of us listening who haven't served in the military.

But you get it, though. That's the beauty of it. I get it because of you guys, though i still can't i can't go to i can watch it on video i can't go to those hills and feel what you felt or i got to knock down every door talk to every person and see how much people would kill in those situations to live here you know yeah that's just like dude i remember we started uh like a little girl school in um damn i'm trying to remember the name of the place we were. We were in Afghanistan.

Oh, you guys did? The Green Berets? The school did, yeah. We did, our team. We were getting book bags and stuff brought in. Wow. Yeah, and we were taking them down to the school, and we started talking to the guys down at the school.

Well, honestly, Afghanistan is one of those places to ask backwards. So they want the kids or the girls to be dumb. They want them to be less educated. Like I tell people, if you want to be smart, you want to get out of poverty, educate yourself. Be smart, educate yourself, whether that's something as simple as a credit score. Just educate yourself. The more educated you are, it don't make you smart,

but the more educated you are, the better, I'd like to say, the better decisions you'll make financially, economically, whatever decisions you're going to make. So in Afghanistan, their thing is, if we can keep it in the dark, then you never see the light. That's right. You mean? It's just so dark, no pun intended, to think about that mentality.

No pun intended to think about it. Dude, I remember us being out in the middle of nowhere. You'll see a guy in the middle of nowhere, and you're like, dude, what the fuck are you even doing out here? And he's got sheep, and there's nobody close to that guy for hundreds of miles. He's out there walking with sheep, dude. Him and his family are walking with sheep. They bed down at night, they wake up to walk the sheep. So that's all that guy knows hundreds of miles. He's out there walking with sheep, dude. Him and his family are walking with sheep.

They bed down at night, they wake up to walk the sheep. So that's all that guy knows. All he knows. Just like if I can go back when the war first kicked off. You know what I would've did, honestly?

I tell my buddies all the time. I'd have loaded up a bunch of kicker pallets. A bunch of what? Kicker pallets. Those things you kick out the back of the bird.

I'd have loaded that fucker up with laptops, porno, and cell phones. That's's it and kick that shit out of the back of a plane drove afghanistan kicked out of back of plane to let them know there's a whole nother world out there that's a lot better than this shit right here dude mia khalifa they sinned and out of gate them out of gate them free fucking internet dude free internet and hey you think about it 72 versions if i go blow myself up

they'd be like hey dude have you seen porn hub they'd be like oh hell no dude i'm out of here we got we got fucking treaty of versailles nuremberg and mia khalifa and mia khalifa that's it dude just fly just kick out california dude just kick out kicker palace dude i gave him a shit ton of a shit ton of laptops with no passwords. Soon he comes up, dude. It's just, you know, good stuff on the screen. They'll be like, oh, shit. Now, there's one problem here, though.

What's that? I don't know if you know what I'm going to say here, but there's a lot of guys I talk to in Afghanistan, and they all tell me the same story. That is true. They ain't all into that. That is true. That is true. But you're a part of the environment true that but you're a product of your environment again you're a product of your environment so you got to show them the titties

when you got to show it to them so when you don't know any better when you cover everything up from head to toe you don't know what's underneath that burka you mean that's right just like dude i might get let me knock on wood i'll probably get arrested for this but we we was coming back off a mission one time i want to forget it dude this was in 2006 I think 5 or 6 and uh we got back and we had a stable boy to work for us and one of our one of the Afghan elders

had molested him dude and I beat that dude just shy of death I'll say it fuck it what are you gonna arrest me and I put my hands on him me and a couple guys put our hands on him just smacked him around a little bit just a little bit for all intents. Just smacked him around a little bit. Just a little bit. For an all-intended person. Smacked him around a little bit. But at the end of the day, one of the

Afghan guys, one of the elders, pulled us out and talked to us. And he goes, well, he's a chai boy. I said, yeah, dude, but that's fucking wrong. He's a what? They call him a chai boy. Like the tea? They call it chai. So he's a chai boy. So the chai boy is basically like the... I guess you pass him around.

Yeah. I was like, not on our watch, dude. That shit ain't happening on our base. Not going to happen. But again, that goes back to property environment. If your father before you father before your father did that, guess what you're going to do? Same shit.

Just like, dude, I'm from South Georgia. I've met racist people. I've never in my life met a racist person that I was pissed off at. Because I don't blame that person. You their environment i blame their environment i blame the parents parents parents parents before their parents there's not not that i i don't want to discount like racism or something like that but you're i mean what we're talking about right now is oh yeah that's a whole it's a whole another gam's a whole nother gamut. But think about it, dude. When you don't know any better, when you've seen that from birth, say you saw that from a child. You think that's normal? You think that's normal, dude.

Just like racism, dude. Anybody looking at anybody can say, if you're going to judge me because of the color of my skin, we know that's wrong. That's right. But you think about it. Prima Zamba, that movie 42. I know you saw it. Oh, yeah. When that kid was up there, when they were screaming the N-word.

Yep. And that kid looked around. He knew, like, this is not right. But then he said it because he heard everybody else saw it. Oh, yeah. When that kid was up there, when they were screaming the N-word, and that kid looked around, he knew, like, this is not right. But then he said it because he heard everybody else saying it. Because, all right, I don't want to be that kid where I'm not fitting in with everybody else.

You mean, like, it's almost like peer pressure. He's a motherfucker. So at the end of the day, like I tell everybody, racism and pedophilia and all that shit, especially over there,

that is a taught fucking behavior from birth. I guess the way I think about it, that's like, because I'm very glad I can't relate to having an environment like that, but it's like you also, that requires you to be physically attracted to that. So I guess you could be taught that. Either physically attracted to it or you just don't know any better. But something still has to happen, you know what I mean? I think if you started seeing that at birth or if you heard about it at birth and people were doing it. just don't know any better but something still has to happen you know what i mean like i think

if you if you started seeing that at birth or if you heard about at birth and people are doing it you might you just you're just gonna do it you know this is like when people say i think people born gay i'm like you know tomato tomato it's your belief i don't i got a farm and every fucking bull cow i have he tries to mount a female cow he tries to run another bull cutter fighting yeah it's i i've heard we we've had some off the record we've had some on the record i know nick irving talked about when he was in here but nick talked about like he had to pull people off kids sometimes yeah literally and there's like a and i've heard this unless he's heard as well from multiple people they had like a phrase they're like women are for babies yeah okay there you go but listen to that

they've had that phrase for how long so guess fucking alexander was there exactly so you know that means that it's already in their head yeah so it's like one of those things like until you educate people till they get educated then how do you how do you break it? Mia Khalifa. Vote Johnny motherfucking Glenn President, dude. We fine on motherfucking. Hey, Dale and fucking, what's another computer? Dale's about to get filthy rich, dude. I'm going to make every fucking computer you can. Open a freedom porn hub.

We're going to fly that shit over. That's right. Push it out. Oh, my God. Because you think about it, dude. Hearts and minds. That's it. Hearts and minds.

That's what we do. Hearts, minds, and dicks. Like all my, I know, right? Hearts, minds, and dicks. Because all my, I know, right? Harsh minds and dicks. Because all my, because I got back, let me see, not just me in general, but my team. We got back probably five, six of our interpreters that was over there. All they want to do is come to America, dude. They want to get the fuck out of Afghanistan because they don't want to be there, dude.

Because they, when they come to our base, dude, because these guys like Haruna, dude, I fought with Haruna, JR, Ranger. I fought with these guys 10 years straight, dude. 10 years straight. Fought with them. Yeah, dude, every deployment, I get my damn Afghan, JR, Ranger. I fought with these guys 10 years straight, dude. 10 years straight. Yeah, dude, every deployment, I get my damn Afghan phone and call them. Hey, B and Country and Amon. Roger that. Where you coming?

I say, I'll let you know when I get there. Be there. I get to Kandahar. I'm in Kandahar. Dude, they in Kandahar that next day, bro. Yeah. All you do is hand them the gun, hand them the body armor, and we go to work, man. Because you trust those guys.

So guys like that that have been around sf guys or been around americans for the last two decades they've seen the better half that's right dude we give those we buy those guys a fucking computer out of the px hey man here's your computer here's your fucking internet card whatever and guess what those guys looking at same shit we're looking at they're seeing that there's a better fucking world out there and it's not this. And so they're like, man, I'm going to get my family the fuck out of here. Yeah, it tells you a lot.

It says a lot. You know what I mean? Right there, it says a lot, dude. And it's like, hey, you know, just like I tell people all the time, dude, we can fix Mexico. We can fix fucking everything. We can fix all those places if you want to. Just like the border problem.

I can fix the border problem probably a year. How would you fix that? How? Yeah. I'd make Mexico rich. If they put Johnny and Glenn in charge tomorrow, dude,

the first thing I'd do, I was going to Mexico. Free money. Free money. Free motherfucking money. But I would make them rich. I tell you that, I would make their kids rich.

I'd make their kids' kids rich. So what I would do in Mexico, I would go there, I would build state-of-the-art universities. I would take all of our, you know, all of our things that we're exporting for other countries all these t-shirts we get made in china and tijuana

i'll build those facts right in mexico you're going to pay kids a good good wage kids can graduate and go to college they can get good jobs they never have to leave their country and guess what they would do not fucking come here i'm not going to another country where i got to learn another language but guess what if i can tell my kids right now you can grow up in georgia i can offer you everything you need right here at home and us is going to fund some of that because we're going to get our you know it's it's it's return on investment yeah we're going to build these countries we don't build these factories that make forward and general motor parts tesla is going to build companies there that make Tesla parts or whatever

You're gonna do them at a good at a good price You can get paid a good minimum wage and you have a good middle class And you're gonna live a good middle class life and your kids kids can go to college And they don't have to work in the fields or do whatever they can get a good middle class life Working a good work system going to college getting degrees and working from there yeah why the fuck am i gonna come do it i'm here and it's it's a good idea that the the cynical part of me that wonders if that could even slightly even try to get off the ground if we did that is that the cartels and i didn't i forgot the one one thing i mentioned i would get in bed with the cartel that's the first thing I'd do

I would get in bed with them and you want to know why I would get in bed with them and for the cartel that's watching this call me up why I would get in bed with the cartel somewhere Ed Calderon's like no so what I would tell the cartel is check this out we would do a meeting just like we're doing right now

like we call them shuras or key leader engagement in Afghanistan key leader engagement I would do a key leader engagement we're doing right now. Like we call them shuras or key leader engagement in Afghanistan. Key leader engagement. Key leader engagement. I would do a key leader engagement. Bring me the head of the cartel. Check this out, dude. This is what we're going to do.

We know you own across the border. I want you to own that. But what I don't want anymore, I don't want fentanyl coming into America. I don't want to come in and kill my kids. So me and you are going to get in bed right now. You're going to come up with a pharmaceutical. You are going to come up with a pharmaceutical. You are going to come up with a drug that's legal. A few drugs that's legal.

That's not going to kill our kids, but it's going to give them their high or whatever. We are going to prove that. And you are going to be in charge of all that shit. That's your money however you make it. Because what you are doing now, you are putting the cartel in charge of a drug that they can legally, not your legal organization. You don't have to do all the crime. Not unless you choose to. But everybody out there that's buying your kilos of coke and cutting them down, you deal with them how you see fit.

That's on you now. So now in a cartel, I feel like they'd be like, hey, look here, dude. We're making billions and billions and billions on top of billion dollars. And we're legit. Any motherfucker out there to take our product and cut it or try to cut it, we're going to handle that in-house. They're going to take care of that. So now you put them in a drum, put them in a drum, whatever you want to do.

Yeah. Put them in a drum. Put them in a drum. Put them in a drum. But now what you're saying. He's like the cop in the town. Hey, hey, hey. I didn't say.

Hey, turn your. Hey. Look here. I'll be turning them in. Hey, look here. Julien, come and see you guys next week. Julien is cutting down if you got a fucking drug called YouTube. Julien been cutting your YouTube drug down.

He's leasing that shit with fentanyl. They're going to deal with that, dude. They're going to deal with that. And now you get in bed with them and be like, hey, dude, how do we make you guys legit? What are you guys looking to do? Because the cartel, even though it's drugs, it's a legit business, dude. It's legit. They making a shit ton of money.

Oh, they make a fuck ton. I see what you're saying. Fuck ton of money. It's legit. making a shit oh they make a fuck ton of money it's legit so get in bed with them dude and say all right dude how can we make things work for you what are you bringing to the table with us we know you got a shit ton of money so this is what we can bring to the table for you this is a classic like trade-off scenario we were talking off scenario dude you're looking at this so black and white but i'm looking at i'm like yeah it ain't no gray area dude we don't want you to feel like, because the cartel is smart, dude. Hey, Johnny Glenn, here's $20,000.

Walk this shit across the border 100 miles past where the checkpoint is. Guess what the checkpoint's going to do? They got to go out, drive 100 miles, bring this person back. Now they got to in-process this person while I'm running my drugs across the border. That's right. How about, dude, let's come to a consensus. You can bring your girls and girls, legal as fuck. Come up with illegal drugs you can bring across the border that we's right. How about, dude, let's come to a consensus. You can bring your girls across, legal as fuck. Come up with illegal drugs

you can bring across the border that we're going to approve. That we're going to say, all right, dude, that's not going to kill our kids. That's not going to, because at the end of the day, drugs ain't going to ever go away.

People are going to figure out, people have been getting high since the sense of man and mankind. Yeah, I think you're right. So why not, let's figure this out where, hey, dude, I'm not saying I want my kids

to do drugs, but they've already legalized weed, which I totally agree with, weed over alcohol. But why not? Let's figure this out where, hey, dude, I'm not saying I want my kids to do drugs, but they've already legalized weed, which I totally agree with weed over alcohol. But why not? Let's come up with something where, all right, dude, you can legally do this. All right, get some of these brainiacs that this right here is going to put you in this state. Let's figure out how we can do that. Even if you just stemmed like fentanyl or something like that.

Yeah. That'd be a start. That'd be a start. Like people are, we're next to you. People are going to do coke. They're going to do it. You know what I mean? Like 24 seven. That'd be a start. Like people are, we're next to you. People are going to do Coke. They're going to do it. Like 24 seven. That would be more.

And, and it's, it's a moral question for a lot of people, but like if your scenario played out, that would probably be the more realistic one than saying you're going to be in big pharma officially now. Right. It might be like, all right,

you're going to do Coke. There's no fucking fentanyl coming. No. Yeah. And then meth. Look at meth. Like South Georgia. I'm from.

Cause it's so cheap. Yeah. You mean you go in the back of a damn field somewhere in some meth. Like South Georgia, where I'm from. Because it's so cheap. You go in the back of a damn field somewhere in some pine tree in South Georgia, you can make all the meth you want to make and sell it dirt cheap and make a good living off of it. But then you're ruining people's lives. Teeth are gone. Just ruining people's lives. So at the end of the day, let's come up with something like,

I'm all about finding solutions, man. And the solution isn't you're not going to stop the cartel ever. So why not embrace it? Get in bed with them. Say, all right, dude, here's the deal. Because guess what? Every legal official over there, you're in with the cartel. That's what I'm saying.

They buy them off. You buy them off. And if I can't buy you off, I kill you off. So you pick or choose. You can be rich. I ain't a smart man, dude. I think I can handle my own. But I can be rich or I can be dead.

All right, dude, how much y'all paying me? Buy me a little island and, you know, go buy me a little island. That's what I'm moving to. Careful with the islands. Yeah, you're right. Careful with the islands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to move to the Gulf of America and call it a day.

You know what I mean? Fuck it, dude. I'm going to call it Johnny's Island. You want to live free? Come to Johnny's Island. Fuck it, dude. Ain't no rules here. Yeah, again, careful. Yeah, I know.'t no rules here. Yeah, again, careful.

Yeah, I know. Careful with the islands. You got to be careful with the islands. This is sensitive. Hey, sensitive, sensitive. For sure. But yeah, but I think that if you did that, dude, if you got him built a cartel, like, hey, look, dude,

because right now a cartel that's still human, you're affecting your kids, kids, kids, kids down the line. I don't think they care, though. They're human, but they're the definition of sociopaths. It's all about money, too. Yeah, it's all about money. It's money so if you can if you can you just got to go at the table with the right amount of money and so they can make that money yeah and i think where people would also cringe on some of the concept there though is that we've had our own

cartel here in the form of legalized cartel bigger quotes like would like the sacklers and what they did to america there's a big pharma company they got they got fucking america addicted to opioids which by the way has fueled what the fentanyl crisis that now happens because people want it yeah and it's like you know people just you know people are are smart to that stuff now and they don't they don't want to see any of that no matter the form it comes into. So that's the other thing. There are things that guys like you, judgments you make over there in war-torn areas where the cameras aren't with you and the media doesn't know what's going on, which is probably a good thing here where you can literally just make those tradeoffs. And it works. And it works and it works but then when you got to make trade-offs in front of the media and in front of the public where people can fight about it on social media while

the decision's going down unfortunately through no fault of your own it gets really hard because you're going to have people that go but what if but what if but what if and then they're going to fight over that and that's why shit doesn't happen that's why our politics here is so fucking messy yeah you know but those things do go down we just don't see them that's that yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure let's go back to the beginning of your career though that was a really fun thing yep that was a good tangent so because we were saying earlier you got in and deployed before 9 11. yes you've done some stuff so you went to europe you went to the balkans went to the balk. Was that your first appointment? No, no. My first appointment was Africa.

So each group is set up to go to different parts of the world. Okay. And that's why you have the language speakers on each team. So that if something kicks off in this part of the world. So third group was in charge. Used to be the Caribbeans and Africa. That was third group. Fifth group had like the Middle East.

Seven groups always been down south. Then you got first group 10th group those guys always been like asia central asia yeah and places like that which part you know so third group for me was africa so i think the first trip i ever went on when i got the group was kenya i think and what were you doing there we were training i think it was kenya either kenya or fuck well that would so this is what like 98 99 99 so this would have been like a year after the uh the embassy bombings in Kenya right yeah yeah there's two years I think embassy bombing yeah it was either 99 yeah I think it was 99 or 2000 so we go to Kenya we're training Tanzanian Kenyans and Ugandans and we're training them in small unit tactics you know fucking shoot

move communicate shooting in small unit tactics because know if i can shoot move communicate shooting in small unit tactics because they were fighting a war in the kind of they always fought in the war in the congo yeah and so it was pretty cool man going to training those guys you know i'm new to the to the team getting there learning and just seeing like when a green beret walks into a room dude you're teaching people it's amazing how because one you know your you're teaching it but they're actually getting ready to go use this in combat you're like holy dude they're in that room like this i saw a kid fall asleep one night in one day in class and he got cane out back they beat the out i can't do yeah beat the out of them i was like holy and of course we're sitting there like hey sergeant

well one of their sergeant like you can't and one of the guys like no we don't we don't get involved in that that's that's their military you know they want to do that they want to beat them they beat them beat the shit out of the kid

but I tell you one thing you're like so class and then yeah so he's like beat the shit no dude you can hear my back

but I tell you what that motherfucker never went to sleep again I never even dozed off again dude he's like shit my buddy's getting to class I'm like I'm getting to class

like I'm learning shit like I'm not done like fuck that dude like I'm paying attention. Fuck that, dude. I'm paying attention to this class. Yeah, dude, he got cane. But it's life or death with them. Oh, yeah.

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Nope. Not in a combat scenario. You're just teaching. Nope. We're just teaching. As a matter of fact, we went out one night to go do something. We took some pop shots. We think it's just probably like some motherfuckers like, Hey, they go to Americans and I have to let's shoot at them. Nothing. Cause we still carry weapons and shit. Nothing that we were afraid of. Like was that gunshot? and i have to let's shoot at him nothing because we still carry weapons and nothing that we were afraid of like was that gunshot maybe next day we got back and one of our land cruisers had a

couple of bulldozers oh wow yep because we went ting ting like yep that was gun char but not combat you know i mean come back do our thing and then uh september 11th hit man we was actually in bd nevada i remember like yesterday. We was in Bede, Nevada training border patrol guys on booby traps, small unit tactics, tracking. Troy Latif was teaching a tracking class. And we was teaching them something else. I can't remember. And I got up and went for a run that morning.

And we were out in the middle of fucking nowhere. I don't know if you've ever been to Bede, Nevada. There's nothing there. No. There's, like, in the middle of a town, casino. I've been to Las Vegas. Hotel. Well, if you drive on the outskirts of Las Vegas, you pass by the Bunny Ranch. Because we stopped there. No. There's like in the middle of a town, casino. Up in the Las Vegas. Hotel. Well, if you drive on the outskirts of Las Vegas, you pass by the Bunny Ranch.

Because we stopped there. Passed by. We just checked it out. We stopped there, checked it out. You just checked it out. Yeah, just checked it out. Because we stopped midday. You don't want to go during midday, dude.

That's like all the old women, like they should call it a Geritol Ranch. But nighttime is when the happening is happening. So we just stopped by like we never been to Bunny Ranch let's check this place out but anyways so we got a beating

of all nothing there little town little small ass town they had a hotel that was set up like old school hotels you know like you got the rooms

and it's just a ranch style house and the rooms are connected so each one of us had a room like that and it was just a big long ass style ranch style building and I remember

taking off running that morning and when I came back, all the guys were sitting around in this one room with the doors open. All my equipment was in these rooms.

All the doors open. I'm like, what the fuck are they doing? I walk out, I go, hey, what are y'all doing? Everybody's like,

shut up, man. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. What time is it? It's right after the World Trade Center went down. I can't remember exactly what time it was.

It's early in the morning out there. It's early in the morning out there. It's like seven something because I just got done running and it's starting to get hot. I can't remember exactly what time it was. So it's early in the morning out there. It's early in the morning out there. It's like six or seven. It's like seven something. Yeah. Because I just got done running, and it's starting to get hot. And I remember everybody's running this little ass TV.

The TV's like, it's like old school TV. Yeah. The whole time it was old. And they're all stuck around this TV, dude. We're just staring at it. And I was like, so I'm looking at those guys' shoulder. I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm like, hey, is that real?

And they're like, shut up, Johnny. I'm like, the fuck, dude? Because I just walked in. They're like, yeah, dude, we think it's real. Because at at first we didn't think that shit was real you didn't no we didn't think it was real you see towers burning on national tv we saw it on we saw it on tv national tv and everybody's like is this fucking real because it just hit us we had just woke up guys like dude is that fucking real that's we're all like is that real and then you know you had the boys coming up twin towers just got now another plane is going to the building we're like oh shit that's real and then i sat phone ring i won't

ever forget it oh so wait you saw the second plane come in yeah we were there when the first one was burning when the first one's burning and then you see that second and the second one's coming in i just walked in the room you remember that moment yeah oh yeah oh yeah remember like yesterday i was like oh shit under attack under attack we're like. We're like, oh, shit, dude. Like, fuck. And then about maybe a minute, two minutes after that, maybe five, the set phone rang. I remember everybody just turned and looked at it. We just looked at it like, and we're watching the news and looked at it.

And then one of the guys was like, answer the fucking phone. I remember I grabbed it. I was like, ODA 382, Sergeant Glenn speaking. I'm a sir, ma'am. And there's a commander. He's like, like hey where's I was like right here

I passed the phone off to the commander or our team leader at the time and he's like roger sir roger sir roger sir

all we're is roger sir roger sir roger sir packing out roger that sir click hung the phone up

we packed all our shit up dude drove to Nellis and within a couple hours we were on a flight flying back before Bragg whoa yep landing at Bragg. Whoa.

Yep. Landing at Bragg. We landed, no, we landed in Delaware first. Where the fuck that base is called? Dover? Dover. Yeah, we landed in Dover first.

You always get stuck in Dover. Yeah. There's nothing fucking there. We got landed in Dover. Now everybody's, you know, trying to make phone calls. We're trying to figure out what the fuck's going on.

Then we got back to Bragg, man. Once we got back to Bragg, the next day I think we had a briefing and like hey guys this shit's real and then the group commander third group commander he was on his way i guess to dc yeah i forgot what was going on yeah paul's and all that shit and then it was just sit around wait pack shit up going to ranges you were in your guns just getting ready because now balloons up dude it's like hey we're going to oh yeah yeah back back for a second though to when it's going down and you're on the tv and you're in that room and that call is coming in.

Obviously, like, that's one of the first things I can really remember in my life. I was like seven years old or something. And I remember how surreal that was. But it was, you know, I'm not in the military. I'm just a kid. But I could see this as evil. And you could see that life was changing right there. You, though, are about to now be in the middle of shit.

You've been in this kind of like peacetime-ish type thing, at least as it pertains to America. And suddenly you see we're under attack on our own turf right here. Is there a moment there while you're still in the room where, like, I don't know, time stops and reality sets in? Or was it just a blur? I think time stopped and reality set in. I'll ask the guys on the team this. When that fucking phone rang. Because when I first saw it, we all thought like,

nah, dude, that shit can't be real, is it? You see the captions on the TV, you're like, what the fuck? Because we're America, you know what I mean? Like, what the hell? But when that fucking phone rang, it was like when you're watching a movie and then you get the noise and everybody's like, oh, shit, we all snapped back to reality.

Like, because when that thing rang, you knew something was going down. It's like the red line. It's like the red line, dude. You're like, oh, shit. And it was just, and it makes a funny noise when it rings. It was like, everybody just looked at it, dude. We were all like, that's for me when oh shit dude it's real did you know who it was right away yeah yeah we knew we knew it was

oh yeah we know exactly what it was we know it's a group so had you guys looked prior to 9-11 had you guys been read in on stuff about al-qaeda or dealt with them yeah we we had talked about you know you heard the stories about al-qaeda this that and the other in the mujahideen era you know never thought they would pull off something like this i mean this is america and you're driving planes into the you know into america in the world trade center dude that's huge that's some shit we would plan not a third world country you know so you know but we still wasn't sure you know i mean like all right and of course you know we were i think at that point, a lot of Americans died.

And it's like, hey, we're getting retribution right fucking now. Find me somebody to go punch in the face. It's like somebody go hit your sister in the face. Some dude go hit your sister, you're going to whoop somebody's ass. Yep. It doesn't matter who, when, what, where, why, I'm going to find somebody. If you fit the description, if you're close to the description, you're getting your ass whooped.

So at that point, dude, anything they told told us they could have told us it was the fucking nuns and in south carolina we'd have been like all right we're going to whoop somebody's ass you know i mean like they getting it yeah you know so so that same day you're shipping in all this and they ship you to dover then we all went in the same day same same day shipped into dover and then from dover straight back to fort browngg. You guys talking to each other on the plane? Oh, yeah, dude. We're like, hey, man, what do you think is going to happen? You know, what do you think?

What do you think this? What do you think about that? And we're all just like, oh, fuck, dude. Who knows, man? You know, at first we're like, hey, you thinking I'm in New York? Because we're like, hey, if they can get planes in New York, maybe they invade it. Oh, yeah. Which they could have at the time.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they did. And so they had cells all over the place. Oh, yeah. They were supporting the operation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. could have at the time. Yeah. Well, they did. They had cells all over the place. Oh, yeah. They were supporting the operation. Oh, yeah. It's crazy.

Yeah. It's like... But I hate to say it, but we kind of needed that too, though. You think we needed it? September 11th. Because all those cells I was operating, if we didn't have the September 11th, can you imagine? This is me talking.

I hate to say it, but can you imagine if those cells, if you can coordinate two planes flying in America and World Trade Center, can you imagine how many cells they could have built in America, which was a lot already, but can you imagine how many cells they could have built and then just did one initiation? When you initiate an ambush, we initiate with the machine gun.

That's the most casualty-producing weapon, or we initiate with the with the machine gun that's the most casual producing weapon or we initiate with a claymore or whatever case may be but can you imagine if they initiate it with something like because the one thing that terrorists got that we don't have is time mmm they have time can you imagine if there was ten sales per state in America that's 50 that's 50 states that's what 500 sales 500 sales and you pick some of the most predominant targets yeah that you're gonna hit all at once all at simultaneously that scares me way more than a plane going into a building dude because now if

you did that what you would do is you think about it and if you did it right what you do is not only would you start fighting you would kill a lot of people but you would start inner fighting like you down in south georgia now you know i'm south georgia dude like you know we we believe red down there and we'll fuck around now south georgia so now you got people that are looking at if it was a say it was an arab that fucking did something on there then you're looking at every ab like that motherfucker is uh yeah he's the enemy yeah and we kind that's the thing though like it might be on another level there but we kind of did we kind of did that you ever listen to howard stern oh yeah september 11th live show yeah it puts me in the mind of that remember that denzel washington movie which one i can't remember which one it was where the cop was uh

he was from like somewhere, and they did a terrorist attack, and they arrested his family, and then they didn't want to get his family back. Fuck, what movie is that? Well, John Q's when his son needs it. No, John Q's when his son needs it. And then Denzel's like, no, we're going to get your family back, and his wife's was like, they got him behind a fence. What movie is that?

The Siege? Terrorist cells made specific made attacks and no when they it might have been the siege check it might have been the siege I think it's the siege I think it was but anyways the cop would investigate the FBI agent's wife or whatever she was yeah

the film follows FBI anti-terrorism Anthony Hubbard yeah and dude that movie you didn't And, dude, that movie, if you haven't watched it, watch it. That movie is spot on, how they did it. Because they made it look like everybody that was innocent

or every ab was guilty, so we just started locking people up, putting them in confinement, dude. Yeah, look what we did in World War II. Oh, yeah. Terming cancer with the Japanese. Yeah, with the Japanese, yeah. It's like when you have a rotten apple in the in the barrel you suddenly just look at

all the apples and go well we can't take the chance another one of them is and it may it makes you do some weird things oh for sure it does i think about that a lot like how delicate society is things can be very cool very cool you know maybe we're fighting over politics tweeting at each other a certain way then some shit goes down and it's like that guy said everybody's gangster till somebody get punched in the face then it's too late 100 well yeah i i it's sad you got to say it like you did but it's an interesting point that like if there had been more time and more cells and more build up and more coordination they could have done something oh dude it's worse dangerous

you think about i'm not saying you're going to invade america i think that's dumb because we're american i hope everybody's watching this say yeah i want to invade america please do we all got guns you know please do i got plenty of guns please do you mean just please do but i feel like if they would have did that just held off a little longer and just grow your cells dude like just be patient grow your cells and then all of a sudden just start taking shit over hit something you know that strategically you mean like just like in north carolina if you read this but in north carolina a couple years ago they think sf guy did a guy hit a like one of those, those transformers, the terminals.

You know what I'm talking about? The one that provides all the electricity. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a guy in North Carolina

do that. They think it was a Greenberry guy because we're taught how to do shit like that. You learn how to take out grid squares like that. Wait, they never caught the guy

who did it? Never caught the guy, yeah. But there's a whole lot of other shit that led up to that too. Like they were doing some, there was some anti-protesting

going on with like, like gays and shit like that. So there's a whole lot of shit that led up to that too like they were doing some um there's some anti-protesting going on with like uh like gays and shit like that so there's a whole lot of shit that led up to it that said he took it out because his shit that that was going on around it but yeah dude it wreaked some havoc in north carolina for a while man because he took out shit down there whole was a couple grid squares he took out it didn't hurt no well he hurt people out like on life support shit like that because he fucked hospitals but can you imagine if if tears oh yeah if best tears would have been like hey let's actually plot this shit out right you know and then you start looking at reactions because this is going to be their action time now i'm going to plan for that now i'm going to plan for this you know you want to talk about i talked talked about this when I had Sean Ryan in here a couple years ago.

It was something we were both passionate about. But like, if you were able to do a mass scale attack on the power grid and shut that bitch down for a week or something, you're talking, forget the casualties. Exactly. The casualties would be an insane number, but you want to see how fast people fucking turn on each other. It's like the purge. It it would it'd be mass chaos i just wonder like there was this book sandworm by this guy andy greenberg he's been on the show a couple times amazing book he wrote it back in 2019 i think it was about gru 77445 the, the hacking team over there. And this is before the war in Ukraine. But he writes about how in December 2015, this team coordinated a grid shutdown for, I don't know, eight hours in Kiev just to see if they could do it.

And they did. And they shut down the whole thing. And exactly. I got to read that. Like we laugh about it because it's like, yeah, of course. Like this is possible. But the fact that they had that power back got to read that. Like we laugh about it because it's like, yeah, of course, like this is possible. But the fact that they had that power back then to do that, and that's all due respect to Russia. That's Russia.

That's not even China or something else like that. And here we are in 2025 and no one thinks about this here is interesting. The – I guess the saving grace that I hold on to with a thread here is that if these places haven't done something like that, perhaps it's because they know if they did something like that, there's a kill switch that they'll get fucked three times as bad. I hope I'm right about that. I'd agree with that. I think that's,

I think that's, I think that's valid. I would say if somebody's shutting down our grids like that, dude, it would be you shutting down our grids. Okay, it would be, you shut down our grids, okay, watch this shit. But we got GenTacs. Is that what they call GenTacs? Them generators?

GenTacs? I don't know. You know the orange and gray ones? GenRacks. GenRacks? Are you making this up right now? No, no. Google it. Just Google our home generators. Home generators. I think it's called GenTacs. Home generators. Home generator. I think it's called Gen Tech. Oh, home generators.

Yeah, home generators. Look at those. Those are what people think. Right there. Yeah. Right there. The ones right there. Generac.

Just a smooth $20,000. Yeah, that's what people think. That's all people think about. If the grid shuts, I got my Generac. Yeah, get that out of the back, Alessi. We got that lying around. That's how we think, though, dude. That's how people think. That's how they think.

That's how we think. I see them going in my neighborhood all the time. I wish I had those pockets. That'd be all right i hey you know i'm coming i'm broke so i went to harvard friday i got like a i got like a four hundred dollar one you know fuck i got something i got something you got something i can run the fridge that's about it and you got some skills some life a lot of people don't have dude me and mike like i tell people all the time my ex always said i brainwashed my kids but we can survive i can promise you oh i believe that oh yeah yeah i feel like i'm gonna learn next week oh yeah oh yeah oh i'm coming oh yeah we're gonna learn

you're gonna learn some shit when i come down oh yeah all right so what so you guys end up on fort bragg by the 12th uh and this looking back on the history you know there was like a footing a war footing for five to seven days there. We're at the top levels in the White House and the Joint Chief of Staff. They're just trying to figure out the strategy here. They knew where they were going, but like, what are we doing? So when did you guys find out what's going on and how you're getting put into the game? Every day we were just getting updates, like not really updates, just like, hey, they're still working on a plan.

Then we were getting like, hey, we think it's al-qaeda we think came from this we think is this we think is that you know i mean so you're getting daily sit reps but it wouldn't really tell us not because nobody fucking knew nothing they were still trying to figure shit out so probably i would say a week or two was before we got like hard like hey dude we're going to afghanistan cool all right where we're staging where we're going where we're flying to and we end up flying in uh kuwait first and do you start action like right when you're on the ground we got the once we got to kuwait we just continue to train with the team okay so our team just continued doing you know team internal training what date are we at

here maybe like the 20th 25th i'd say about yeah end of the month 25th end of the month because now you're just like all right dude you're we're in it now we're in it to win it and then fifth group already had guys on team on the ground already pointed this should even happen so you know there's oh they did yeah there's some guys already on ground well i said it was on ground they're already working with Sells or- In Afghanistan. Yeah, UW, which will always work for different armies for the rest of time. You know what I mean? Just like we went to fucking war with a country right now. We got somebody there.

We already got somebody there. Oh, fuck yeah. That's great. Imagine being on that team though. Oh, yeah. You ever watched 12 Strong? Yeah. That was the first team in there.

But those guys had sources in there way before that move was made. You know what I mean? Not to give away our trade tickets, but shit, they was like. Of course. That's how we do. That's what we do. Hearts and minds. That's what we do.

So, you know, like, there's already things that we already knew or we speculated. Then they verified, like, yeah, I catered to this. I catered to that. No. Okay, now we can action targets. We can start action. It's interesting, though, because this was this was like a modern military masterpiece in the sense that they do – they changed how warfare is done, right? It's paramilitary. You got like tip of the spear like CIA running it with some spec op guys that work with them.

And then you have all these tier one teams across the military, be it the Navy SEALs, be it you guys, be it Delta Force, be it the Rangers. And yet everyone like kind of has certain teams from each of those levels is brought into the ground there and has their own mission. So did you have overlap with any of the other like tier one teams in the stuff you were doing? We did some stuff in the Maroof Alley with the SEALs. I can't remember what team it was. Because I remember they were at an outer court on, and we actually went in to conduct a hit. We didn't end up killing nobody on target,

but we ended up taking some pretty cool, I didn't say cool, some pretty high-value target guys. Or back then we didn't call them high-value target. It was just guys that had information that would lead on more into the war of guys we were actually looking for. But, yeah, we did some joint shit with the SEALs back then because I remember rolling a Kandahar. There was nothing there, dude. We had a little base we set up.

In like 01? Yeah, in 01. Well, this is like beginning of 02 now. Okay. Yeah, because I didn't actually end up going in until the beginning of 02 because we were still waiting for pieces of the puzzle to get put in. Where are you putting guys? Where are these guys going? And that's basically how I was working.

Like, you had, you know, we got Seals going to take this area. Rangers taking this area. Deltas doing this with ground branch. And we're sitting here. They're going to do this. We're just going to trigger this. We're going to need guys here. So, it was all just – it's chess.

Were you burning to get out there? Yeah. And I remember I had a team, I had a team one at the time, Bart Bryant. I won't ever forget. He kept telling us, careful what you wish for,

careful what you wish for. Because I was going to gym every day in Kuwait, just getting it. Like, hell yeah, let's get it. Because one of them things where it's like, it's like being in the NFL or being in major league sports. And you've trained your whole life.

Like you were saying earlier, 15 years old, you make it to were saying earlier. 15 years old, you make it to the Super Bowl. 15 years old, you never make it to the World Series. You never make it to the Stanley Cup. You never get put in a game. You mean, yeah, you played all the seasons, you played the games, but you never got to the dance. You never got to the show. So having been trained for the last, what,

three, four years I've been in the military, four or five years, like, fuck, dude, we're going to the show. Like, I'm ready. Let's go put all this shit to the test. I remember Brian, I won't ever forget, he says, hey, careful what you wish for. And he said that to Stanley Herrmann that got killed. It wasn't five days after he said that.

Operation Anaconda. Yep. So you were in that Operation Anaconda? No, I wasn't in Operation Anaconda. So Stanley Herrmann got a team, we didn't go. Our team wasn't there. So their team went. We went we was gmb a rug team at the time i can't remember what team stanley hammer was on but i think he got attached to somebody or something but anyways i remember we were leaving the gym and uh he was having a conversation with bart they were both warrants and i remember we all walked up and bars like well you know you have

to be careful what you wish for and he ended up up getting killed, man, in Anaconda. It wasn't, shit was less than three days. That brings it home. It does, man. I think he was the first guy killed on ground, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong or not, but he was the first guy, the first Green Beret, for sure.

I know he was the first Green Beret. And then after that, dude, it's like, we knew then, like, all right, it's fucking real now. It's fucking real now. Like, it's here. You know, so then we just, it's gonna real now. It's fucking real now. It's here. So then we were just itching to get in a fight. When was your first firefight? 2002 of, I want to say it was May of 2002, if I'm not mistaken.

Okay. And it was a far ambush. We was driving through, we was in southern Afghanistan, driving through southern Afghanistan, and our trucks got hit by uh pkm rounds rpg rounds and we just as a team we just kind of maneuvered didn't really know what the fuck we were doing but we're gonna maneuver on it because that's what we've been training to do yeah and we were turning some fire that was the first first time i got shot at dudes like all right we hear shit where's it coming from because a bullet crack in the air makes it it makes a

distinct sound it's like a it's like a i don't know it's a crack yeah it's a crack in the air and in the valley of afghanistan where we were it was like an echo at that crack so you're like all right where did that come from and all you could do is like all right it came this i know it went by this way so you know it's from generally this direction so we're all looking for, you know, where did it come from? Who shot at us? And then I think it was Troy or maybe Bart, one of them saw like somebody moving up in the hills and it was probably 300, 400 yards away. I mean, you could see them moving

and it was all fucking like, just looked like black man jams or black dresses or whatever you want to call it. And then of course we saw another shot and that was like a muzzle flash and at that we just started lighting that fucking hill up i think one guy started shooting and it was money after that everybody started shooting well we saw you showed us the video earlier of the one that was later in like 2014 but like you know in afghanistan you're fighting the geography as much as you're fighting the people oh dude the geography is everything if if if we were fighting like if we were fighting in afghanistan i mean americans we as american

the united states army marine corps the armed forces we fight in afghanistan we own that country nobody could beat us nobody could beat us that country is designed it's designed to fight in if you own the terrain, you own the country. That's interesting. I wouldn't expect that because the terrain is so complicated. It's why they talk about Afghanistan being the graveyard of empires because great military empires have come in over the years. Look at Russia. Came in and left out with a toe between their legs, dude.

That's just a place where— Because the people know it. And toe between their legs, dude. That's just a place where if you- Because the people know it. And the people know it, dude. Like everywhere we ever got hit, except for maybe, dude, all the firefights I've been in, I can probably name on two hands, maybe 10 firefights we actually initiated. Where we actually initiated. Where I do, we got intel. This is what we're going to do.

15 at the most. Yeah. Most of the time, dude, you're driving and- Bullets are flying. the bullets are flying bullets are fine because they got high ground they're looking out at you it's like gotcha bro that's what i say if we if we own that country nobody could ever invade us because nobody's gonna shoot us we got the best shooters in the fucking world and then our technology dude just won't happen you can literally just take a jaytag send them up on a hilltop and you can own two three hundred miles yeah with fast movers and c130s apaches and one man band dude which is another reason why strategically like the fall and being completely out of there and leaving that you know potentially right i think yeah nothing else you put you keep a unit there

that you can rotate in and out and then you make it a staging area if we need it yeah alright let's take a quick break let's get let's get you some lunch we got all day here

let's do it but this is great so far we'll be right back let's get it alright we're back before we move on I've been looking at this all day and unless you just said something too

what what is going on with with hat, by the way? Maybe you can take this off and show this to everyone Oh, that's a good luck hat right there, brother Hold on, let me get it back That's not a hat, that's a I don't know what to call that That's a hat

Matter of fact, you know anybody make them And I'm trying to start me a hat company Just call them distressed hats Distressed hats WGMFG hats There's nothing like What'd you do to that thing? Put it through a fucking rag? trying to start me a hat company and just call them distressed hats distressed hats wjmfg hats there's nothing like what what would you do to that thing put it through a fucking rag no i'm just wearing terror brother just wear how long have you had that 14 years i can tell december be 14 years i've written some hats into the hell if i knows exactly i've written some hats in the

ground before i've never done anything remotely yeah yeah like do people comment on that all the time they're like hey why do you wear that hat you're on the plane you're like perfectly dressed and they look at that they're like what what the hell happened wait a minute wait a minute actually i was in a firefight with this hat on you were in a firefight with this hat on i've been in a few firefights this hat hat. This is not my favorite hat. I can't even wear it. It's shreds. But this is the only hat I've had for 14 years.

There's one that's worse than that? Oh, yeah, yeah. Is there anything left? No, that one I got my nickname on. It was actually a third group hat. It's got the third group flash on it. Can we see it anymore? It's just thread.

You can see it. You can make out it's a hat. But I had that thing for shit. I don't know probably shit probably about 15-16 years wow

yeah and you got your nickname from that hat yup we were in a firefight I was talking I was running and it blew off my head

we'd been in a firefight all fucking day I'm talking I was white as snow just dehydrated and I turned around and go get my hat and when I turned around

and pick up my hat I bent over and all the blood went to my head and I stood up I don't know if you've ever been like totally dehydrated oh yeah well i stood up everything was moving the ground was moving earth was moving excuse me i was like holy shit now look up i remember i put my gun up i took a shot i turn around and look at the trucks and i was like i'm just gonna walk back to the trucks my mind was telling me to run but my body would not run

so i literally just started walking towards the truck and we had this young kid on a team and he goes look at johnny motherfucking glenn he looks like a black jesus right now and when he said that he said it i was telling alexis he said it over um sat 102 which is like satcom 102 is your all afghan radio network it's all over anybody can listen to it. Anybody can hear it. It's SATCOM. Well, he thought he was on a team freak when he said it.

And when he said it, you know, I was telling him, anytime you get in a firefight in Afghanistan, you would sit by the radio. Like, hey, where they at? Somebody's plotting on the map. Somebody's like, hey, dude, they're only 10 clicks from here. So you're trying to go get in that fight if they're close enough. So all the SF teams knew we were in a firefight and they heard it.

And then we went back to Kandahar, like, maybe three or four days later to get mail and all that shit. Everybody's like, Johnny motherfucking Glenn. Johnny motherfucking Glenn. And then it just stuck, dude. It's like. It's a hell of a name. Yeah, it just stuck.

It's like, Johnny. And what's crazy is I'll say it sometimes. Like, I don't mean to say it. They're like, what's your name? I'm like, that's Johnny motherfucking. I'm like, that's Johnny Glenn. You've been on my map. But now I'm like. All right, Samuel L. Jackson, sit're like, what's your name? I'm like, I was down in, I was down in, you know where I'm at. But now I'm like.

All right, Samuel L. Jackson, sit down. I know. And my buddy got this wallet made. It says bad motherfucker on it. I was like, hey, let me get that. He's like, nah. Yeah. There is something about putting motherfucker or motherfucking in the middle of like any

term that just gives it. It gives it flavor. It gives it sauce. It's just like that. That's right. It's like chef's kiss. That's sauce. Just like that. That's right. It's like chef's kiss. That's it. It's done.

That's right. It's like if Samuel L. Jackson had said, you know, we got to get these goddamn snakes off this plane. No one's watching that movie. But if he goes, we got to get these motherfucking snakes off this motherfucking plane. People are like, that sounds like the worst movie ever, but I'm going. I'm there. I'm watching it. I'm watching it.

Hell yeah. Well, there's something about it. ever, but I'm coming. I'm there. I'm watching it. I'm watching it. Hell yeah. Well, there's something about it. Now we're motherfuckers. All right. So we left off. You had said you had your first firefight in May 2002. Two. Yep.

And what was that like? How long was the firefight, first of all? That was probably about 20 minutes, 20, 30 minutes. So not too long. Not too long. Just exchanging fire. I always call it plunging fire because we was three, four yards from each other. So I call it plunging fire.

To me, they would say that's a fire ambush. Me, I just call it plunging fire because they're basically shooting off the top of a mountain down at us. It's hitting shit, but big shit. Like it's hitting rocks. I think they hit a couple trucks, but nobody got hit. You know what I mean? So it's more like, oh shit, that person is shooting at us.

Oh, those people are shooting at us. There's more than one up there. And then we're of course shooting up, trying to shoot back, you know? So. How'd it end?

You take them all out? I know. We shot like two dudes, I think. And then they retreated? Yeah. And then they retreated. It was only like four,

maybe five dudes. Then they retreated in the hills. What was your adrenaline like at the end of that? Were you like, shit, there it is. Yeah. It was trying trying to like it was adrenaline rush for sure but i think more so more than anything i kept trying to replay to my head like you know like when you see the dude like i shot him what happened you're trying to see that like that's right like did i hit the dude i should i know i was shooting at him so i don't think i

hit him i know i was shooting at him i was hitting all around the fucking rocks he pop up pop down this one pop up he popped down then all of our guys are shooting at him then once we you know the guys fled we made our way up there there's two guys up that was shot the fuck up so you know i guess we all shot them two dudes so it's kind of i mean it's it's got to be crazy though it's like your baptism of fire and now you're like this is what we're going to be seeing. Yeah, and it was. And it was. And then it just got, after that, it just morphed and the firefights were bigger.

They were more orchestrated. Shit, like two days later. Wow. Day or two later. Right away. They were more orchestrated. Yeah, they were more orchestrated. Because at that point, they were just hitting anybody.

Any American or any vehicle they saw that they thought were American, they were hitting us. Hey, guys, if you haven't already subscribed, please hit that subscribe button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank you. What do you mean by orchestrate? Meaning like they knew where you guys were going to be more? Well, they knew where we were going to be, but not only that, they started, like, it's like anything else. They started growing.

Like, if we hit you with four dudes, we're going to hit you with ten dudes. Instead of putting ten dudes together like they did, they started – because you can Google how to send an ambush. So then what they started doing was like, all right, we're going to – I swear to God, you can Google it. My 7-8 is all in it. Ranger handbook's in there. But they started setting guys in. Yeah.

In more, I would say, like almost – not really strategic positions, but in better positions. Like, all right, let's put a guy here and put a guy here and put a guy here. Then we're going to put 10 guys over here. You know, we're going to shoot at them in this spot. And then when they start moving, we're going to a guy here. Then we're going to put 10 guys over here. We're going to shoot at them in this spot. And then when they start moving, we're going to run this way. Then we're going to try to ambush them up here. This got smarter.

Now, were you guys doing routine patrols within the area of your base or are you also moving between bases? Yeah. Well, we would do what we call our fire bases. We expand our white space. So anytime a team go into an area expand the white space our white space is like our neutral space yeah so anytime we go into an area the first thing we do is we're going to occupy what we got when we only occupy that by force we'll take it by force

we need to so if we only occupy this room in here by force what we do at that point we would extend the corners so there's four corners in this wall house right first thing i would do is extend that corner out let's expand our space whether that's through kinetic or through non-kinetic means the best way i think to do it is a little bit of both but you you basically want to stay non-kinetic because if i can stay non-kinetic then that means i'm working the hearts and minds of the people now if i'm working the hearts and the minds of the people i'm staying non-kinetic those same people don't work and they know I'm there to protect them or be there for me whatever now these people gonna start giving me Intel now I can build targets I can say hey I

know for a fact Julian goes this place downstairs and eats every day I know he's every day now I can put surveillance on him my guys can watch him and now we want to hit him, we can hit him. Or we pull him in, we talk to him. Like, look, dude,

I'm going to get in bed with you. I know you don't want to be a bad guy, but you got to take care of your family. I got a family back home. I'm going to take care of my family. But I'm going to offer you a win-win right here. Yeah. You know,

whoever the ID maker is, you help me get that guy. This is what I'm going to do for you. You're good with me. Yeah. You're good with me. Now all this little, you know,

all the little he-she-she selling on the side, I don't care nothing about that. You're good with me. Now all this little you know all this little heesh heesh you selling on the side I don't care about that. What's the bigger problem? What's the bigger problem? This is the bigger problem. This is what we need to solve. How do you help me help you?

And now dude that guy he starts seeing a global impact because we're going to do that. So now what we're going to do is once we start expanding that guess what? My medic's going to go in

he's going to do a med cap. Where he's going to go in he He's going to do a med cap where he's going to go in. He's going to help that local guy we know that's got a big-ass lump on his head, which I got to do some, I call it brain surgery. I got to cut on a guy's head. Oh, they let you do that? Yeah, he had a big skin. What are they going to do? I know, really.

Fucking doctor motherfucker. Yeah, I'm a doctor motherfucker. Come on in. Let me cut you open. What are you going to call, PETA? Like, oh, my God. They're doing this or whatever it is. So he can't say

you violated my medical rights. So I cut this, this guy had a it was like a brain, it looked like a brain tumor growing. It was a big ass lump about that thick. You just sliced it off? We cut it off and my medic was there. I numbed it up and my medic was like, alright Johnny, start cutting. We started cutting. We're dabbing it.

He's dabbing it off and he said, see that right there, Johnny? And then he said, okay, it's not cancerous. And he was telling me all the medical terms. He said, all right, we're going to cut it off. We're going to cut it off real slow. Cut it down right to his fucking, right onto his skull. And then he said, Johnny, now, if we had time, we could skin graft this. Shave skin.

I was like, no, dude. So we cut it off. We put something over it. He came back three days later. It started to heal, man. And then after that, it healed. Once it healed, it was just like a mold on it started to heal man and then after that he healed once it healed just like a mole on his face but looked better than that third horn he had grown was he talking normal or did he walk no no he was talking he was talking the whole time the whole

time we're doing he was sitting there talking we never put him under we just numbed it real good so you you didn't damage anything else going didn't damage nothing else that's insane yeah so you you are literally a brain surgeon i guess guess so. But the beauty of it, but it was on the outside of his skull, so we didn't have to really go into his skull. We cut just a little bit down into his skull. Not much. Just a little bit. He's like, let's cut everything out and make sure.

You're like, that looks like enough. Yeah, let's do it. My man was like, keep going, Johnny. He's like, keep going. I was like, alright, cool. But yeah, dude, you get to do shit over there that you normally... Like, we had a kid get blown up. He got blown up by shrapnel. We think it's from the bad guys. They said it's from the Americans, but it wasn't.

It's from the bad guys. But the kid came in, and we stapled. I got pictures. I sent it to you. We stapled his. Whoever fixed him, they put staples based on the tip of his sternum all the way down to his midsection. Whoa.

And so when he came in, the dad was like, they told me to bring my son in and get these staples out in the dog was like yeah the dad was like they told me to bring my son in to get these staples out and he was like when they tell you he's like oh they told me to come back after some period of time dude this guy waited like two months man so the skin was starting to kind of grow over the staples just a kid dude he might have been the cutest kid six or seven maybe cute is all i know is my little afghan kid little kid his skin's growing over the skin yeah so he let so for whatever reason the kid liked me i don't know because i was brown and i was brown like him or what but he liked me dude he's like so i was holding his hand

and phil was taking the staples off and he kept telling still no no he pointed at me and feels like you want to take him i'm like fuck yeah because they teach you know the operator feels no pain so if i'm stitching you up whatever dude i don't feel no pain. So if I'm stitching you up or whatever, I don't feel no pain. So I said, I don't feel nothing. Even though as a kid I was trying to be gentle. But we got all those staples out of him and got him out. Dude, we gave him like some lollipops and stuff and candy and stuff like that and told his dad like, hey, but that's how you get people to come on your side

to help you. When you first get down there, though, those months before you're out doing patrols and stuff, are you getting handed off through the various chains of Intel to or having guys handed to you I should say that are gonna be your interpreters and are gonna be in the field with you or did you have to go out and develop those people for the most part the first couple years at a war do you develop my stuff every nine in the three letter agencies they'll throw you they might throw you a

little bone they might like you a little bone. They might, like here, we've been working with this guy. He knows the area. Yeah. Then you get with that guy. And then that guy,

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