Just Trish - Tana VS Brooke! + Justin Bieber Kisses SZA On Stage!?

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Cause I would, I would like hate watch people, but I would like re-talk their rhetoric. You get the catchphrase. Yes. So it kind of sucks that that's happening. Yeah. What do we do about it?

Starting point is 00:00:44 Call the Congress? I want to do something but like what can you do? She's got the national, got some filthy rich, pretty, and big hot topic queen. And says what everybody thinks she's just straight. Yay. My arm don't jiggle jiggle. It goes. I love that thing when I look at this. It must be jelly because jam don't shake. Ooh, I love that.

Starting point is 00:01:22 That's a RuPaul song. That's a RuPaul song. Really? Okay, love. Peanut butter. It's called peanut butter but it must be jelly if my jam don't shake. Ooh, I love that! That's a RuPaul song, that's a RuPaul song. Really? Okay, love. Peanut butter. It's called peanut butter, but it's called, it must be jelly if my jam don't shake. Yeah, you know.

Starting point is 00:01:29 Okay, I gotta listen to it. Stream peanut butter everywhere. Hi guys, welcome back to Just Trish podcast. We're so excited to be here. It is our last weekend in May. May has been a great month for us and our co-host of the day, filling in for Oscar who is just busy at the AMAs, is our very own Just Trish editor slash

Starting point is 00:01:51 really fourth co-host at this point, Jimmy. What's up? Hello everybody. Oh, you got a round of applause. Thank you for having me. I'll add more. Yeah, just have it be so loud. Yeah. Jimmy, you really have won the hearts of everyone here at Just Trish. Thank you. Every audience member, every comment. And I said them to you too. I'm always just like, everything is about your editing. And I don't watch them back,

Starting point is 00:02:14 so then I have to go watch for the edits. And I'm like, wow, it is so good. And they always go viral on TikTok. Thank you. The editing makes the whole show. So if you're an audio listener, we love you, but also come watch the podcast after. In the most recent episode,

Starting point is 00:02:25 I did a little Hopecore Trisha monologue that I had been waiting to do one of those for a while. I was like, it's gotta be like the right subject matter, the right amount of talking. I need like the right, I gotta get the files a little earlier. So I have like a full hour and a half to make it. Like it all just worked out like perfectly last week. So I did like a full hour and a half to make it like it all just

Starting point is 00:02:45 Worked out like perfectly last week, so I did it and I saw a bunch of comments being like I'm an audio listener But when I heard the classical music start playing I knew Jimmy was doing some bulls**t Oh they knew in the audio Yeah, they were like I gotta put it on the TV Yes, I always love when you send me a clip too because I'm always like okay And they love posting I post it right away I love it so much and then people get so And then of course, I always have to tag you because people know I don't edit.

Starting point is 00:03:06 So they know it's not me. I'm like, Jimmy. And I think- So many people are like, I thought this was a fan account. Yeah, all the time. When I post that too. I treat the podcast like that. I'm like, you know what?

Starting point is 00:03:15 Whatever I can do to make it even funnier. Those get the most views on TikTok. I always see fan edits and they get like more views than I get. I was like, we need to start doing fan edits for sure for ourselves. So you crush it always with it. Well, thank you. Yes. Thank you very much. It's going to be hard to edit yourself today? A little bit, I think. I was nervous about it with my boyfriend. I was talking

Starting point is 00:03:34 to him about it and I was just like, oh, you know, like, what if I say something stupid? He's like, you edit it. Like you can take it out. Like you can literally make the whole podcast about you if you really wanted to. That's so true. I was just like. Are you going to do the whole podcast about you if you really wanted Are you gonna do a whole new edit? Only have this camera Not used to the microphone. That's actually so tea. You could do that. You also do that Yeah, my reactions to everything yeah, cuz there is little cameras I never think about that like you're shifting through camera angle How do you choose? How do you know? Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:04:06 It's so, it sounds insane when I say it, but like, so I have like the timeline with the audio and I like layer the video on top of it. So I'm watching the waveform of like, Moses' mic, your mic, Oscar's mic, and I like look for it to spike for when someone's about to start talking and then I have your four cameras tied to the one, two, three, four buttons on my computer and then I'm also looking at them. So kind of

Starting point is 00:04:34 looking at two things at once and then I'll see Oscar like about to respond to something you're saying so I switch to Oscar's camera and then I see like oh in a minute Trisha is about to reply so I switch back to you and then you're saying, so I switch to Oscar's camera and then I see like, oh, in a minute, Trisha's about to reply, so I switch back to you. And then sometimes I'll just watch if Oscar's talking for a while, just to keep it moving, the camera. I'll look and see if you nod your head, and I switch to that.

Starting point is 00:04:59 I lock in and then when you guys are talking about Mr. Beast and you call him Jimmy, I get woken up from a trance to like I'm a freaking sleeper agent and I'm like oh it's not me. Oh my god that's I didn't even think about that so yeah because there'll be times when like Moses is talking and I'm just like dozing off or whatever and you cut to that and I'm like how does he know? Because I'm not even saying anything my sound waves are blank. I see it.

Starting point is 00:05:22 It's like you're in math class and you're not paying attention, but you're just like, I love that you like, you repeat the question to just like try to show me. It's always whatever the last thing you said. Like really? The water really does that? That's crazy. I love that like, I'll get to hear a little comment cuz like I'm looking at the setup now There's four giant lights completely blocking Moses's face It's like you're looking into like the headlights of a car. Yes, like you don't see anything your eyes adjust

Starting point is 00:05:55 So like it's makes sense that sometimes someone's little commentary might get lost in the shuffle Well always cuz you can you see him from where you're at I can but like only out of the Corner my eye yeah, and that's what me too like if I look and it literally is so bright. Yeah, there's four lights Is it four or five there's like there's oh? Yeah? There's a lot this time up here, and it does even looking like Oscar It's not as bad because there's not as many lights this way But like looking this way it's still like by the end of the shot I feel like I'm hallucinating a little bit because the lights are so bright which I love cuz like watch me out

Starting point is 00:06:22 But most I can barely see and then when he starts talking about stuff because again It's very different than our normal day-to-day the life Moses. He doesn't tell me Sometimes I'm like what like what people love it. There's a sense of humor for everybody I like when I catch a little Moses joke, and I'm like I got it I'm like I got it Well, I'm a droplet too, but you know For other reasons, I like when you guys have the the husband wife little Conversation oh my gosh forget what it was about recently, but you were talking about

Starting point is 00:07:05 There's one about the gossiping. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,? I was like, who doesn't do that? And it's not even like gossip. It's like, yes, like we we go to Arizona Trish and we're just talking about like, oh, it was amazing. Oh, and then when this person showed up, I was just like, oh, my God, I didn't think they would be here. And it's like, it's just like a debrief. Exactly. Yes, exactly. It's not gossip. It's. But I was like, if you if you are are like I don't consider myself a shaker anymore

Starting point is 00:07:26 But it's like if there's one person I'm going to like event to exactly Moses. Yeah, I think it's like normal That's why that was so annoying when that couple was just like when the husband to the wife was like I hate that you turn everything to negative. I was just saying like okay. It's kind of annoying that your family Just always like beret. It's like so yeah, which by the way Oscar was not in the room We have to reiterate that one too. I love that you guided him leaving and coming back. Oscar kind of pissed me off that day so I cut him out. We're not going to show him leave. He got the lobooboo I wanted so I cut him out completely. Well we have a lobooboo hot topic we should get into but before we get into that Air as a Trish tour continues this weekend I'm coming to Missouri I'm

Starting point is 00:08:02 coming to two cities in Missouri Kansas City St. Louis Missouri and Nashville Tennessee at the Ryman where we're gonna have exclusive Ryman continues this weekend. I'm coming to Missouri. I'm coming to two cities in Missouri, Kansas City, St. Louis, Missouri and Nashville, Tennessee at the Ryman where we're gonna have exclusive Ryman t-shirts, which I'm really excited. So if you've been to all the special stops the Ryman will have a special costume, special song and a special t-shirt And then we're having special t-shirts for our last weekend of the tour, which is our first weekend in June Which is the first Pride weekend. We have fans and rainbow shirts available so if you're collecting them all come to all the tour stops and yeah, we will see you there. Also patreon.com slash just Trish will do extended podcast episodes and bonus videos plus our headshot of the month and our stickers. So anything you want to promote before we get in here, Jimmy?

Starting point is 00:08:37 You're Twitch. Oh, yeah. I stream on Twitch. Twitch.tv slash Jimmy Wetzel. I will put it on the screen. You do it beautiful every time. Thank you. A little pop in. Yes! Yeah, I stream multiple times a week. Nintendo Switch 2 is coming out June 5th. I do have a pre-order and I will be streaming plenty of games, play Mario Kart with me.

Starting point is 00:08:57 What is that? Should I get one? How do you get a Switch? Um, pray and refresh Best Buy's website like 50 times. Could I get one now? Could I get one now to order? and refresh Best Buy's website like 50 times. Could I get one now? Could I get one on now to order? Probably not, but I imagine there's gonna be somebody selling it day of.

Starting point is 00:09:13 Cause you had to get a pre-order and that was like crazy. So it's gonna ship to you on June. I pick it up day of at Best Buy. My boyfriend got one and his is getting shipped to him. But I was like, I've had mail stolen. I'm not dealing with that. So I will just go pick it up that way I can make sure I have a day of see both our gamers. Yes, you and Dallas we are both horses. Yes Yes, seven days apart. Yeah, our dog is six days exactly seven days apart. Yeah, they're seventh. Oh, no, no, no

Starting point is 00:09:40 He's on two years old. I'm 30 actually No, no, no, he's two years older than me. He just turned 30, actually. How old are you, 27? 28. Oh my God, you're so young. I know. Oh my God, are you friends with Joey Graceffa? I'm not, but-

Starting point is 00:09:52 He's a Taurus gamer, too. I was like, wait, a game? I know of him, I know of Joey. Yeah, but we saw Daniel at Eras of Trish, and they just- You know him? No, but Dallas does. So he's an- I was just like, hi, I'm here.

Starting point is 00:10:04 I edited your episode, but- Did he know? No, I don't think so. But he knew Dallas? Yeah. Oh, okay. So Dallas is the one. Because like, seems like, got it. Yeah. Well everyone knows you now. I didn't really know any many gay people that did YouTube for a long time. Really? Yeah. How did you meet like Ricky Dillon? Through Dallas actually. Ricky and Dallas have been friends for a long long time, yeah. Love Ricky Dillon. Have you seen him lately? Not lately but recently enough. Like within the last couple months. He came to our Halloween party. I think that was the last time. Is he still the same? I mean I didn't know him before. online? Do you see him online?

Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah probably. He just started doing videos again actually. I loved him. He was an editor for a while too. I remember he's to edit Yeah, he's like big and buff. He got so big. Yeah He's great. He's really like I love his dog Oliver Cute I remember he came out as a sexual and I thought that was so cool cuz not enough asexual representation out there Yeah, I don't know what he's got the spectrum to like some people just have lower sex drives and yes And I think it's like such a real thing. I talk about all the time with my gland team I'm like, obviously it's a real thing

Starting point is 00:11:08 But I was just like even for me sometimes I'm always like even when I was younger I used to obviously like that was my job is like having sex with people but I literally not like literally as That was my job title. But even back then, I always think like, oh my God, I was so loved and it was horrible. But actually I don't think I did. When I reflect on it in therapy, I think I was kind of asexual,

Starting point is 00:11:33 where I kind of didn't care, which is why it was so easy for me to just hook up with random people, because I was kind of like, I don't really enjoy it. Back then, I was just kind of like, it wasn't until I met someone I was in love with that, I was like, okay, I like it.

Starting point is 00:11:44 But I don't think I ever did before. I was kind in love with that I was like, okay, I like it, but I don't think I ever did before I was kind of like but I think I Portrayed myself as hypersexual cuz that was like the character right? Yeah, I love sex. I love this But in reality, I was like, I don't know if I really care about it. Yeah So I like when people talk about it. I was like is there a in the LGBTQ? No. Yeah LGBTQIA plus I believe there's also tos for two-spirit Gosh lady. Yeah, it's like indigenous. Oh Very similar to trans non-binary. I believe okay. I've only learned about it through Canada's Drag Race really Oh, really? Is there someone that represents it? Yeah, there's been a few

Starting point is 00:12:24 I Oh really? Is there someone that represents it? Yeah there's been a few. I don't know like for sure. I don't want to say like specific names because I don't know for sure but. They talk about it. Yeah they try to have at least like one or two two-spirit queens or just trans non-binary queens each season in Canada. I love that so much. Yeah. Yeah because it's like learning every day and I think it's more important when people talk about it because there's so many things I wish I was like when you're like young you kind of like don't know you're like well I don't really fall in this category And I think it's important when people talk about it because there's so many things I always talk about. It's like when you're young, you kind of don't know. You're like, well, I don't really fall in this category, this category, so it's always good sometimes

Starting point is 00:12:48 just to feel like other people identify the way you do. Or just feel the same way you do. I love the word queer. I just use it all the time. The queers, the gays, I love that. All encompassing. Yeah, yeah. I love it too.

Starting point is 00:13:01 We love it. Queer Pride coming up. Woo! Are you waiting to see the Prides? Yeah, I'll be at WeHo Pride. I don't know which day. It's like three days. They have like a festival, like a music festival,

Starting point is 00:13:12 similar to what you're doing. This weekend it's Out Loud, right? Yeah. It starts off this weekend, maybe on the actual Pride, there's probably stuff too, but I know there's Out Loud this weekend, and then yeah, then there's the WeHo Pride, the following weekend, which is like more like parade parade and yeah I'll probably just be at the

Starting point is 00:13:26 parade I do like the parade and I would have loved to have been like on a float at the parade or something that'd be so much next year I'll be the Trish crew I'll wear little booty shorts I'll be dancing I'll do it okay we need to get a little boo boo custom for it. The boo boo will be over. You think? Well it's not gonna go away forever like there will be like me I will be clinging on to it forever But I think it'll peak this summer and then it'll be back to like okay. That was fun And then 20 years from now you'll be seeing nostalgia 2025 tik-toks from Jen whatever comes after beta. I'll be like

Starting point is 00:14:01 2025 nostalgia starter pack and it's like little boo boo. It's gonna be so crazy. Benson Boone. Always a Benson Boone throw. He's in the hot topics. He's at the American Music Awards. I think I saw Tana talking about how she wants to see him flip. That's what she's, cause she's going tonight.

Starting point is 00:14:16 Everyone at the AMAs, Oscar is there, Tana's there, Benson Boone and Tana's like, I just want to see him flip. Honestly, it's what people like about Benson Boon these days. I think he should come on the podcast. But I promise, even though I'm not a booner. Don't think so. I don't know. That's crazy. I'm a gooner.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Goon cam. You, I'm going to use them for the Not Loved Line Patreon. I'll put that on here as well. Wait, do we, oh, Goony? The thumbnails? For episode 25, you did some goon faces for the thumbnail. I'll put that on here as well. Wait, did we- oh, Goonie? The thumbnails? For episode 25, you did some Goon faces for the thumbnail, because after- for those who don't know,

Starting point is 00:14:50 that should- I should put some of those on a video so Oscar can upload them. Just you in silence, posing, like- For the thumbnails? Did I do it here or not, loveline? You do it here, but then you also do them with Tana on not loveline. But I did a Goonie one? Yes. On purpose, you think? You're like, eww.

Starting point is 00:15:11 It's in me now. There was literally only like one non-gooning face in the last episode. So I'm gonna have to use one for Patreon, so the thumbnail for Not Loved Line Patreon is gonna be crazy. Oh, I can't wait. We film tomorrow. We'll make sure to do more gooning ones. I love it. I think it's cute, but people are so shook I think Gen Z takes it so much more like sexual than I think it is I think it's like cutesy, but I talked about it in Sacramento I was doing gooning pieces because they had the jumbotrons so I was like, oh my god I can goon here and I was like she keeps saying it. I'm like as if it's like this crazy

Starting point is 00:15:40 I'm like to me to sound so silly. It is fully asexual Do you think sexual? I don't think about it at all but I in my mind what I do I change the word with masturbate so I can're so crazy for 30 minutes into it. For YouTube. 15 minutes in. Um, it's, oh my god. It's like you're so into it that you can't control your face. But no one makes those faces when they're doing that. No one. Twitter will have you think otherwise. I don't

Starting point is 00:16:27 know why. Sex y'all are having. I've seen like biting lips, squeezing things, like ugh, like that. But like throwing your tongue out and crossing your eyes, that's crazy. I want to see it. Film it. I need to see it because I've never once done that. It's been documented in the 20s. People are doing it on purpose as a troll. You know, Elon took it over, but it's still kicking. I love it. By the grace of God. Oh, interesting, because he does run Twitter. Can he ban something like that?

Starting point is 00:16:56 Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure you can get Shadow banned or something if you tweet cisgender, which is not a slur. No way. But he fully believes it is. Wait, really? Oh my God, that's- Which is so stupid. Oh my God, and it's crazy because yeah,

Starting point is 00:17:10 Twitter is kind of fun again, so it kind of, or X or whatever, so it kind of sucks that that's happening. Yeah. What do we do about it? Call the Congress? I want to do something, but what can you do? Have a fourth kid.

Starting point is 00:17:21 You have to become a billionaire and buy it. That's, you know. I know part of me is like I should just keep the factory open at this point. This is what we need. I don't know, some of the people are wishing on my uterus and I'm like I don't know, I need a ticket. No, no, we gotta keep it, we gotta keep it. I'm happy, yeah. Like Pope Francis, he may have dropped an epsilon here and there, but Who? Pope Francis did? Or Pope Leo? Oh my god, he was for the gays!

Starting point is 00:17:48 He was, but he would also say like, like f***ing no. Maybe we just smoldering Starbucks. But that's, I mean it's kinda cutesy though, no? I, I mean, I- Does that translate? Is that actually what it means? No. What do you mean? It was literally almost like the Epsler with no, but it wasn't we don't know in Latin what

Starting point is 00:18:13 I have to look up exactly what it was because it literally might as well have been that Cute see women it's kind of funny. I guess if you're saying that like that What are you saying in a cute way? It's kind of funny I guess if you're saying that like that But if it was an Italian word or something it was very much his his whole mindset was like Love the sin or not the sin and like oh It was it was progressive for the Catholic Church and like we're cool with that. He was trying to get somewhere Yeah, let me see gay slur Pope Francis gay slur. Latin. Yeah, I got a foot in Latin. Let's see here. Oh funny. I didn't know

Starting point is 00:18:53 Okay, uh frog a Cheney He's turned the frogs gay It's a highly offensive slang term in Italian referring to gay men and gay male cultures According to what is this vulture? Yes credit NPR org okay? Okay Okay, so what do you think? Rest in peace. We'll see you soon. Okay, well, you know. Was he saying it in a bad way? Was he just like addressing? I actually, you know, let me look up the context. Yeah. Let's be fair. Let's get the benefits out.

Starting point is 00:19:34 It's like when we're talking about the word homosexual. You know, something. Yes. Which I, I don't get offended by that, but I definitely prefer the gaze. I think the gaze is fun. Oh Okay, that's the story we were talking about last time. The gaze is cute, right? I mean if I were to be like, where's my homosexuals at? I mean I guess it's kind of cute, but also I think where's the gaze?

Starting point is 00:19:54 Where's my homos? What's that? The one I didn't know. Oh, the Joros Unidos, right? That killed me! But I mean, I like, nobody was having it's cutesy. Yes, it's very much like reclaiming, like I have a little boo-boo with a shirt that has the upsler on it and a jockstrap on my Labooboo. I did see- I have a jockstrap on my Labooboo. I almost brought one today. Are they queer?

Starting point is 00:20:16 My Labooboos aren't queer, they are he's, she's, they, them, so. It's pretty consensual. Oh, he put their pronouns- cause you're starting an Instagram for them, right? I should. I still haven't. Oh, OK. But you know, I should probably use the Instagram we made for our dogs first.

Starting point is 00:20:32 You never used it? We haven't in a while. We haven't even updated it for our second dog. It's been that long since we used it. Oh, no. Evil baby Ruby. Evil baby Ruby? Yeah, it might change, but yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:42 Oh my god, why is your dog evil? No, but she does get into mischief. She's very sweet, but she loves to, it was more so when she was younger. She would steal socks and just get into mischief. How old is she? She's four, she just turned four on the 20th. Oh, Taurus, oh no, was that Gemini?

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Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, we went to Florida to see and your birthday and everything. Oh my gosh. And you guys went to Florida. Yeah, we went to Florida to see Dallas' family. He's been there like twice since we moved, but I haven't seen them in a year and a half. Wow. And they're so sweet.

Starting point is 00:23:53 They like make me feel like I'm direct kin. And yeah, it's really nice to talk with them. Yeah, we had a night where it was just the two of us. I'll probably cut that. Okay, yeah, yeah. I love it. I love you editing yourself in real time. We had it we had a a night where it's just the two of us I'll probably cut that To you too because I forget sometimes I try to remember at the end but I just like to say like Oh, I love it. Yeah, because like with not love line Devin will send me a voice note. He got from Tana of her saying like, okay, so I want this this is this

Starting point is 00:24:24 But there's no episode number. So I have to kind of guess. So I write down everything in a notebook and I'm like, okay, if this ever comes up, this is what she's talking about, I'll cut that. But I love that, like, if you want something done, you don't even say it sometimes, you just go like this. With your hand and I cut it.

Starting point is 00:24:40 Okay, that's good to know. But yeah, you just edit it yourself, you're like, I'll cut that part. But so they're just close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. edited yourself. You're like, I'll cut that part. So they're just close. They're just- Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his niece and nephew were there and a couple other family friends brought their kids

Starting point is 00:24:52 and it was just really cute. His niece, AJ, is five and she is just so creative and she is obsessed with me and Dallas and it's so cute. She has a, I don't know what, it's been a while, but she has a stuffed tiger named Jimmy. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. She was writing a little story about two guys who adopt a dog. And she's like, yeah their names are Dal and Jim. It's kind of like Dallas and Jimmy. Oh, at five? Yeah. I love her writing queer literature for kids at five. I know. Literally half the people she knows are gay people. Oh my god five? Yeah. I love her writing queer literature for kids at five. I know. Literally half the people she knows are gay people.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Oh my God. By people. Oh yeah, that's literally our daughters too. This is everyone they know is just like, yeah. Oh my God, that's so cute. We played La Boo Boo. We brought her one of our extras and we gave it to her. And oh my God, it was like.

Starting point is 00:25:36 That's a big deal. You gave a La Boo Boo? She was obsessed with it. She made crowns out of construction paper. She was the princess and I was the barista. I love that. I was a service and district worker and she was royalty. I love that.

Starting point is 00:25:52 She tipped and it was so interesting. She was like, yeah, this is the iPad you pay. And I was like, we're doomed. Isn't that? Matt was the same way. She has a register. She's like, here's money. I want to go buy slime at Target.

Starting point is 00:26:02 I was like, at two and a half. And I was like, what? She made a phone and I was surprised that she was like, it flips. Because like, when has she ever seen a flip phone? Right. But she was just like, and now we're going to talk on it. But then she turned it to the side for like a FaceTime. I was just like, oh my God. That's wild.

Starting point is 00:26:20 Mabel holds it up to her ear. And that's why I'm like, where is she seeing that? Because we always use speaker phones. Especially doing like this. Yeah. She always does that. She always picks up her ear and that's why I'm like, where is she seeing that? We always use speaker for this Always picks up a phone. She's like hello. Yeah, like where do they see that? Like we don't have a house phone Like where are they seeing it? I have friends who are teachers and they're like, yeah when kids play house They hold their hand up to their ear. Like it's I feel like it's a shape like this. Oh like this now Yeah, that's so interesting. I wonder if even like kids are gonna realize

Starting point is 00:26:45 like the call button on an iPhone is still like a rotary phone handset. Right, right. Like if they know if it's just push. Cause Malibu like on our laptop, we only have photos and she likes to touch the screen. You know, even though it's like not, she like wants to touch it to like blow it up.

Starting point is 00:26:57 And it's like, it's really interesting. Yeah, how they learn different things. But giving a little booboo is a big deal. I still haven't let Malibu have my little booboo yet. Maybe it's time to give her one. I don't know, she might be scared of them. They're a little scary, a little monstrous. I love that they're like a little boo boo is a big deal. I still haven't let Malibu have my little boo boo's yet. Maybe it's time to give her one. I don't know, she might be scared of them. They're a little scary, a little monstrous. I love that they're like a little ugly.

Starting point is 00:27:09 Like that's what attracts me to them personally. Really? I love a little gremlin, a goblin. Yeah. Have you seen the theme park, the little boo boo? Yes. Where's that? The little size ones.

Starting point is 00:27:18 I think it's in Beijing. I'll have to find it. It looks like China. Are you gonna go? Yeah. It's a little expensive, I think, but I would love to go. I feel go like you guys are bougie both of you know, you're both bougie. Not only I influence How many episodes like if you do two of these plus two of our bonus ones plus a not love line plus a not love line You do six episodes. You're like full time. That's like six episodes a week. Yeah, Sunday to Thursday. I'm editing. Yeah

Starting point is 00:27:48 That's crazy. My boyfriend makes fun of me because like I'll be hanging out with friends and like something will come up and it's not Something that happened to me. It's something that happened to you It'll just be like, you know random thing it's like, oh, yeah, oh Trish was just talking about this and he's just like bro, like they don't. Oh, I see. I see. Because you're editing. I'm like, I spent five days a week listening to the same woman talk about things. Like, I, it's like, that's my boss. That's like a coworker. Like I, it's what's happening at work. Like I gotta talk about it.

Starting point is 00:28:22 That's so funny. I never even thought about that. And he's joking. He's like playing with me, of course. Of course. No, that would be I never thought about that. Like you really are because you're hearing all of it. How many hours do you think that is a content a week? Are you editing or sifting through? Uh, well, we know in each episode, it's close to three hours.

Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. Yeah. Bonus is an hour, another four or five hours. It's a lot. Oh my God. That is actually so do you ever get like. We talk about everything that's happening, whether it's hot topics or current.

Starting point is 00:28:48 So if you talk to somebody, it's probably something we kind of cover here. Yeah, it's usually something like pretty recent or like, I don't know, like a life story. I don't know, it's been a while. Since he like told me that I do that, I've been like a little bit like, okay, the intrusive thought to be like,

Starting point is 00:29:02 well, Trish said this about every single thing. Oh my God, it was so funny on the podcast when Oscar did this. Like. And they're like, what? I'm watching this. No, but that's why I had to stop hate watching like years ago.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Cause I would, I would like hate watch people, but I would like, I would like re, re-talk their like rhetoric. You get the catchphrases. Yes, that part. And I always remember there's like a clip of me like talking about like gravity like not needing gravity

Starting point is 00:29:26 And I remember what it coming from a Gabby Hannah podcast The way she explained it was so real She's like and she talked about it. So that was like before me So it's like not even like I was trying to be funny because I remember in that like clip to I remember being like to Moses I was member like no who said that Trying to remember Like I didn't come up with this. Like someone was saying this. She was really just trying to remember.

Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. I didn't watch it with her. So I didn't know. You exposed yourself. Yes. And no one knew because no one was watching the Gap. I love Gabby Hanna, but no one was watching it back then, except for me, apparently.

Starting point is 00:29:52 The read. Yeah. I love her now. I love her. She seems engaged, happy, Christian, love it. But back then, I would remember being like, I would watch every podcast. And like, yeah, I guess it was like a hate watch.

Starting point is 00:30:04 I don't know. But also not. Hate watching is so funny because it's like you hate watch because you find someone like annoying, but then you're still watching it. So are you a fan? I don't know. But probably I could never. I could never do I hate watch. I hate watch because I'm just like, I'd rather watch people I like because they have like you, for example, you have so much content. You're probably one of the most documented people on the history of the planet. So scary though because I forget there was a post

Starting point is 00:30:29 mullin we should we should correct that last time I was I did say there was a clip of me saying I got catfished by post mullin I was like what girl but maybe I did I don't remember because I do block out so many things I mean maybe I don't remember but it does suck for I guess it's a blessing and curse to be documented for someone like me who does truly forget things. That's why after that, Gabby Hanna, when I did the interview with her on her podcast, I really wish we would have like, I would have recorded it because so many things get edited and like, I don't remember. And because people know I don't remember, I can easily be, I hate the word gas lit, but you can easily be like, you did say this, you didn't. And

Starting point is 00:31:02 I'm like, damn, I wish we recorded it. So it's like now I'm just always like, okay What did I say after you so like hyper conscious about it? Because of that or if I say I've never had a hot dog people find a clip of me You know, that's crazy crazy that people remember it's great for making like little edits because I'm like, okay I I know there's like I need a clip of Trish in her car eating chicken for this Minecraft And I just literally just look like Trisha Paytas chicken on YouTube and yeah, I find it It's like a 45 minute long video Thank you very much you to start watching it but I see it now it's on Hulu, but I haven't started

Starting point is 00:31:38 I haven't seen it either. Is there a Minecraft was that because you were just in Florida. You were in Tampa. We went to New Smyrna beach. It's between like Jacksonville, Orlando. It's just like a little beach town. Did you find any ghosts or anything came back with you or any spirits from Tampa or Florida? I mean, nothing, nothing scary came back with you. Dallas's parents' house is a new build.

Starting point is 00:31:59 So that's probably why. But what about just the air? I brought back pollen and humidity congestion. Were you sick after? I wasn't sick, but I definitely needed my allergy medication for sure. Yeah, I don't know. Florida just always scares me a little bit. And you didn't even make it to Universal, all the new...

Starting point is 00:32:20 What is the new thing everyone's going to? The Donkey Kong Land? What is this? So Nintendo World, I guess, just opened in Universal and they it's bigger there. So they're able to fit because we have one in L.A. I haven't been to it still. There's a world in L.A. or just Mario. It's yes, Mario. It's Mario.

Starting point is 00:32:36 But in Universal, they're like expanding it because they have more room. So I think there's going to be Donkey Kong that just opened Zelda and a bunch of other stuff. And you weren't like obsessed with going you just bought an Nintendo Switch you said like weren't you like this is my thing? I would love to go but it was just a time thing really we I was like I have to get back for the podcast. And you can edit like there like if you want to stay a week? It's not worth it. I don't have a computer that I could do that with. I thought about getting one just so I could potentially

Starting point is 00:33:08 do that, at least with like, if there's like guest episodes, I can like plan, okay, like I can, this is not, has to go up the next day, I can do this over a break. But yeah, I edit on a desktop computer that's like crazy powerful, because it just has to do so much processing all the time for editing. So I made sure I got a beefy one. I use that holiday bonus on a new computer.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Literally like four days after filming I bought one and yeah. But it is good. I remember yeah we'd always have issues just with all our editors just like it would crash. It would something would have to restart. They could lost the odd like because it is probably I don't know. I know nothing about anything about editing, I've never edited a video in my life, as long as they've been on YouTube, which is now 19 years, never edited, couldn't tell you how to even, I know how to, what is it called, split and delete,

Starting point is 00:33:55 I can do that, but even that took me a while to do. And long format, so we're talking about three hour video to process. Multiple cameras, that is crazy. On my old computer, it used to take like an hour just to save and export the video file. Now on my new one, it takes like 25 minutes, which is amazing.

Starting point is 00:34:14 Cause like part of what would give me such like late hours doing the podcast was just like sitting around waiting to be able to put it on Google Drive. And like, that's the most annoying part because I'm like, I'm done. Like, but I still have to sit at my computer and stuff. But- How's your back?

Starting point is 00:34:32 Not great. Is it her? I wonder, because you're sitting. Yeah, I am really, I've been bookmarking my TikTok for you page as like Labooboo and posture exercises. Cause I keep like bookmarking them and not doing them. But yeah, I get, but it's not from editing.

Starting point is 00:34:47 It's from life of just being a gamer and just playing. Yeah, just over. Yeah, I get a muscle spasm the size of a golf ball every few months under my skin, which is not great. And then what do you do for it? Just massage it out. My boyfriend one time, it was a really bad one I was having and I had to go to the dentist too

Starting point is 00:35:05 So I'm like sitting there at the dentist like waiting six hours for them to be like, yeah You're gonna pay $5,000 for us to do this little thing and he surprised me with a Thera gun So oh those are nice. Yeah, so if it's like even starts feeling it's gonna act up He uses the Thera gun and typically it doesn't that with an icy hot patch and it doesn't flare up. Oh my god I definitely especially now that I'm 28. I'm like, okay, I really like yeah I'm not a high schooler anymore. Like I gotta really take care of myself. Can you like lay back when you play the games? Um, No, not really you know, I played this Yeah, kind of yeah. Some people have like these glasses that like they're like

Starting point is 00:35:45 I'm on my phone because it's like glasses with mirrors and I'm like that's a lot. I feel like the humiliation of that is too much for me. You're like let me just sit up. Yeah exactly. It's a lot. Man that's sitting okay well watch your back. I will. I get up and stretch you know every 30 minutes I stretch. I pet the dogs. I use the bathroom. I stretch my arms and everything, but yeah. Keeping riveting. No, that's the only time I'm always like, anyways, talking about it. No, I love it. It is.

Starting point is 00:36:17 I think it is so interesting. You said so much for gaming and editing and the blue blue searching and all that stuff like that. The blue blue searching is really, it's shameful. You got- My screen time. Oscar on it, you got everybody on it now. Honestly, yeah, and Popmart, I'm not looking for a check, but maybe a PR box.

Starting point is 00:36:33 Okay, yes. Explain your Popmart heart. Because you've, I've seen this on, was it your Twitter, Instagram? You've been going through it with Popmart. I've been ranting everywhere that you're listening to me. Yes. Well, here you are. You have a platform.

Starting point is 00:36:44 Let's hear it. Thank you. We love Popmart, by have a platform. Let's hear it. We love Pop Mart by the way. Yes, I love Pop Mart. I am a very new fan, but when I get into something I can't not go immediately to 100% finacity. So if that's even a word. Finacity? I've never heard of it. Tenacity? I don't know. Yeah, we're dubbing it today. Okay. But yeah, I love your products. I love your character designs. I love going to your stores. You have five in Los Angeles, California, California, and I have Instagram notifications on for every single store to keep up with Laboubou restocks. Wow. And I unfortunately have had some terrible luck and multiple of my LabouooBoo shipments have been stolen.

Starting point is 00:37:27 It's frustrating and their packages are stamped with the Pop Mart logo. That part. So everyone knows it's a LaBooBoo size box with the Pop Mart logo all over it. They're gonna take a shot that it's a LaBooBoo. And they're breaking it in Oscar, so they're breaking into people's cars for LaBooBoo.

Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, people hang them from their mirrors, put them on their dashboard and people smash the cars. So people see in the box. Which, like Louis Vuitton, anything product, it always comes super discreet. It's just like a brown box. Shout out to Adam and Eve for the discreet packaging. Pop Mart, take a note out of Adam and Eve.

Starting point is 00:37:57 That's true. That part, because even when we got a PR package, just shout out Pop Mart, but they gave us two huge PR Pop Marts, and I was like, what'd you order from my mom? I'm like, I don't know. But I know it's bougie. Like, let's open those up because I know it's like fancy. But on that same side, people will also see that and be like, yeah. So so your solution would be to just not the Pop Mart.

Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah, just just use different packaging tape. That's literally it. It happened twice to you. Uh, no, it almost happened six times. Six. Well, I had like four four boxes delivered all in the same day. It happened twice to you? Uh, no. It almost happened six times. Six? Yeah. Well, I had like four boxes delivered all in the same day. So it's like been stolen twice, but it was five items.

Starting point is 00:38:33 So I had like, this was like a couple of weeks ago, they left him on the and really be advertising this to people. Right here, yeah, I don't know. Cut whatever you want. Yeah, but you know, they're exposed to the elements and the elements found them and stole them. And then, hadn't happened for a while, I'd been really diligent and they just didn't say it was delivered until hours after it had been delivered.

Starting point is 00:38:57 Oh, that's weird, yeah. Yeah, so I was sitting there and unfortunately it was the Fallen Wild Special Edition Laboo Boo which does not drop nearly as often as the other Labooboo sets. What's a Fallen Wild one? It's just a Labooboo with a cute little bucket hat and overalls. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:39:10 And I did manage to secure a new order of one. Hopefully that gets here. You keep ordering them? Well, you know. Maybe you stop ordering them. Put them here and I'll send them to you. I was like, send them to my parents' house and I was just like, I don't wanna be a burden.

Starting point is 00:39:24 But I think you might need to at this point. Once okay, twice is sad, three times. Like, what are you doing? Five get therapies. Yeah. Oh my god, that's crazy. I got refunds though for the ones that were stolen and so, like, it's okay. You're building your pop mart.

Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah, I'm gonna franchise Refunded you. Oh, uh tiktok customer service. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. That's good. That's good Yeah, because that's a part of your building's responsibility. I would think oh, yeah If I didn't get a refund I would have fully been like, okay Like this is kind of your fault for the lobby not being done for eight months So specifically your building is very like no one's supposed to be secure and all that stuff. Yeah, so I was gonna be like, can you take $40 off my rent this month?

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Starting point is 00:41:17 or dial pound law. That's pound of five two nine. That's forthepeople.com slash trish or dial pound law, pound five to nine. This is a paid advertisement Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episode I remember when I yeah when I looked at my last complex I remember I had my Lamborghini stolen broad daylight and we had a security Yeah, we had like guard gated security and they blamed me.

Starting point is 00:41:45 They're like, are you sure you didn't know the person? I was like, oh my God, no, what? So they were just like, the police came and everything and they were blaming me for it. I was like, you all are crazy. But still it would be a theft. Yeah, exactly. He leaves the house here and takes one of our cars.

Starting point is 00:42:01 It's still a theft. They seem not concerned at all. They were just like, I don't know. Maybe you know them. I'm like, I don't want my car back. I did bring my labouboo today. Yes. What is this one? This is just a macaron labouboo that I dressed up in some clothes.

Starting point is 00:42:15 What's macaron? It's just the line that they did. It's exciting macaron and they're all this one's toffee. There's green grape, which still eludes me, but we pulled the secret for that one. What is it? What does all that mean? Green grape and pulling the secret.

Starting point is 00:42:29 They're just like different colors that are like named after like a flavor of macaron. Like the little French cookies? Yeah. Yeah, so there's a lychee berry, sea salt, coconut. I don't remember all of them, but I just call them pink and blue, but they're cute. I love that. You're a little bit expert. You're like pink or blue

Starting point is 00:42:47 Do you want a macaron? What? 45 year old like single woman who is sedentary. Which I kind of love about you. I get that vibe from you too. Thank you. If I didn't see you in person. When I first saw you first I was like oh my god you're so like young and cute but you do give yeah middle-aged woman like me though like we'd be friends. I'm like I love this person. Also I did not mean to sound like I'm saying 45 is old. I'm just saying

Starting point is 00:43:23 that's you know. It's old but hey it's a curse. I is old. I'm just saying this, you know But hey, it's a curse. I want to be 45. That's the best, you know Oh me too You don't want to not be 45 because then you just are stuck at this age forever You passed 27, which is good because that's the tragic. Oh and my OCD reminded me every day of Not anything tragic honestly 27 was like the best year of my life Oh, okay. Truly. But you didn't think you were gonna like die, like, because everyone dies.

Starting point is 00:43:47 My whole life leading up to 27, I was just like 27, I'm gonna die. That's not the same thing. I wonder what that is, because it's so old school. Because it's like the 27 club and- But it's like Janis Joplin and like, you know, Kurt Cobain. And not that, you know, but it's like a long, it's like they're older rock stars.

Starting point is 00:44:01 So like, why do we think we're gonna be that? Yeah. It's sad. A lot of the deaths, I guess, tend to be from like, substance abuse, like there's, very rarely I feel like it's like a sudden thing, but it doesn't help my mentally ill brain with that. Yeah, are you mentally ill?

Starting point is 00:44:17 You don't talk about it if you don't want to, but are you? Really? I didn't know that. I have anxiety, OCD, struggled with depression for a long time. Haven't been depressed in a long time thankfully because things have been good and yeah pills, but Depression is funny that way. I found a journal the other day my mom found it cleaning out the garage We have organizers here shout out a organized home

Starting point is 00:44:38 They've been doing a garage and they found a journal and there's just me being like so sad just like I sent it to Moses I was just like my god. It's just me every day being I'm so alone. I hate being alone Like I just journaled every day about being so sad and like lonely my other thing maybe was more Situational because like I'm kind of like oh well when things are good. I don't feel it as much I don't know if that's like a normal thing for depression But you know, but sometimes things are good and you can still be depressed. So it is I think depression Here I am Katie Morton DSM I was a patron of hers back like a million years ago

Starting point is 00:45:09 for like a couple months. Cause I was depressed, I couldn't afford therapy and I was younger and I was just learning about it through YouTube. And then the Jake Paul series I had to pull out. I was like, oh, this is too much. Oh, that was a while ago, the one with Shane. It was a long time ago, ago thankfully my depression era. So you

Starting point is 00:45:26 haven't watched her like the new stuff with Shane you didn't know. I mean I got clips for the podcast when he talked about his friend that's totally not you. But not a YouTuber. But also everyone thought she was a hooker and everyone thought this and she cried a lot. And she's blonde and has two kids at third on the way, reincarnation of the pope, but she's not a YouTuber. That's what it was, right? But yeah, I found her videos really informative, but I just did not care for that series. What was it? You thought she was... I just thought it was weird, the vibes and I don't know. It's been a long time, so I don't really remember my exact feelings on it, but I just I unplugged from that fandom

Starting point is 00:46:10 I guess if you can Yeah Very but yeah, I yeah was depressed for a really long time. Kind of culminated in my late teens, early 20s. I had a really kind of tough childhood. And once I was not in school anymore, and the people that were causing that for me kind of left my life. Suddenly, I wasn't in fight or flight mode anymore.

Starting point is 00:46:46 And then all the mental illness that I was putting on the back burner came through. I came out when I was 18. Oh, interesting. So I wasn't constantly spending my time thinking about how do I make sure the conversation does not become anything about being gay, because I don't wanna talk about that.

Starting point is 00:47:04 So it freed up a lot of space in my brain for the demons To creep back in So it almost yeah, like the stuff that was causing it Like it almost yeah, you blocked out and then it came which is kind of good It's kind of like what we're talking about the ayahuasca kind of like flushes the demons and the trauma to the front No, I could never do it I had I got like really high like a year ago and it was I have liked Like I used to really like it, but I I had way too much to I had like 80 milligrams, which is crazy

Starting point is 00:47:34 It's like eight times what people usually have Cuz I just I wanted to catch up with my friends who had smoked it and I was eating it and I was just like Well, I'll just have more and we know like edible. Yeah, yeah, I'm eating is very Which like I should know that because I've done it before but I was just like it's fun Like who wouldn't want to be a little high. Oh my god. I greened out. I was in the bathroom I was like I get this out of me really throwing up Yeah, cuz I was like I can't do another three hours of this cause it was just kicking in and it was crazy.

Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah, I was like, I would not be here. Yeah, it just like, it made my OCD like crazy. Like it was on turbo drive. That's so funny cause yeah, a lot of people say it actually helps them with like anxiety. Yeah, it used to for me and then maybe, you know. You went a little overboard. Wait, it's also very different cause I was like guided.

Starting point is 00:48:24 It's very, very different. Yeah. You said throw up, which I'm sorry. I'm not throwing up. Even when it feels good, if you have food poisoning and you feel... Still hate it. It's like so... Yeah, I haven't thrown up much in my adult life, but when I've needed to, I've hated

Starting point is 00:48:36 it. Yeah, it's not... But at that moment, it's more of a... It's called purge. Yeah. At that moment, you feel like... Imagine you're suddenly thinking about somebody you don't like and something that was bothering you all of your life.

Starting point is 00:48:48 And then you physically feeling like, I'm gonna expel that out of my body, purge it. You feel good. Do you feel like you wanna just keep taking it out of you? I think that would be different. But I, I'm afraid of it. Cause you're not like, it's not like being food poisoned, throwing up

Starting point is 00:49:03 or alcohol poisoning, throwing up. It's very different. Like an emotional response. You just feel like you're purging your body out of something negative. I think you just block that person. I don't think you need to purge them out of your life. Just don't look at their Instagram. This is a spiritual blocking.

Starting point is 00:49:18 Okay, well, do you have something you wanna show? You've been clutching your little- No, we were talking about the LaBubas and then everyone were tagging us with this this oh wow we got that off to talk shop He influenced is it a little bit more now? Um, it's not a little boo boo This is from Disney trying to be a little boo boo kind of little boo boo's nachos We're not stitch era now the Lilo and stitch because of our Elvis birthday Oh, we have to shout out cutie Cinderella for making the Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Beautiful case. She spent literally like five hours. She like streamed it

Starting point is 00:49:54 five hours. That's crazy. Canceled plans. She had something on Saturday. So she dropped it off here, but it was like the most beautiful cake. She like source the toy on on top from like, I don't know, it was like a vintage early 2000s. It was like they were so it was so good. She was so nice. Cutie Cinderella. I love you. You're my new favorite influencer because that was like so nice. And she like, she doesn't charge anyone anything. She does it for people. She never charges them. Yeah, it's crazy. I was like, let me like pay you at least for the ingredients or something. But she was just like, so sweet. And then I wanted to Yeah, I wanted to come to the party. But she was she had something that day, so her sister dropped it off.

Starting point is 00:50:26 But Elvis loved it, Malbu loved it. The cake was delicious. The reveal. Oh, he's sleeping. Oh, holding a donut. Okay, falling asleep eating a donut. Very cute. You should put it to yourself.

Starting point is 00:50:39 It's like our baby that's coming. Yeah, our theme has been blue this time. Yeah, I have blue nails today. Oh, I love, I do, oh me too. We're so identical, oh my God, that's so crazy. I love blue, it's like a, it's the vibe, especially with nails, I love blue nails. I think they look so cool.

Starting point is 00:50:54 These are, I think, from the snow white section at Target. What do you mean snow white section? They had like months ago when the Snow White movie was coming out, they had like a little kiosk and it was like Snow White colors. I was like, don't care for this movie, but I love the blue. I didn't see it. I don't, I don't see any. I don't see any of the Disney live actions.

Starting point is 00:51:15 You don't like princesses? It's not that I don't like princesses. I just I prefer the animated original. A big animation fan and- You haven't seen one live action? Not that I can think of, no. I don't think so. Not even Aladdin.

Starting point is 00:51:31 I feel like that was the big one that everyone watched. No, I didn't see Aladdin, but I love the original. Where about Lilo and Stitch? I, that's a hot topic. Hot topic. Hot topic, yes. Yeah, yeah. That was one of mine.

Starting point is 00:51:41 No, I don't think I'll be seeing the new one either. Wait, why? I, I hate to be like a Debbie Downer because it is like, I love the original Lilo and Stitch. I watched it like a few months ago for like the first time in a long time and I was like, this is just one of the best movies they've ever made. Like it just has so many important themes and the live action it just feels like the people who made it didn't understand the plot although the director did say that he tried to get pleakly in drag so part of me thinks it's like the studio executives that muddled it all up and

Starting point is 00:52:18 ruined what could have been like a perfectly just tame recreation yeah Yeah. Um, but yeah, spoiler warning, I guess. Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! I put a timestamp also. I know people are like, I don't know where to skip, baby, look at the screen. It's right here. People love you for it. I saw someone on TikTok said thank you, Jimmy, for all the spoilers for White Lotus because they were just finished watching it. Now you can go re-watch all the episodes. And I have not seen White Lotus and I'll have to wait a year for me to forget all the spoilers. Oh, that's why you didn't listen to the spoilers! I knew everything in Traders before I watched it.

Starting point is 00:52:51 There was an Oscar spoiled the end of the new Hunger Games book that I was gonna read. Oh no! So like, the bullets I take for you guys. Do you hate spoilers? I love a spoiler. I don't love a spoiler if it's something that like if it's a twist like if it's like if it's like a mystery and the whole point is to like not know what sounds interesting I'd like to see that play out. I'd like to see how that looks when it's that's what I think too Like you want to know what it's gonna be about. Yeah But yeah spoilers for the new Lilo and Stitch among a couple of the

Starting point is 00:53:36 Lists of things that people did not love that they changed at the end of the movie Nani gives up Lilo At the end of the movie, Nani gives up Lilo. Like what? Which is like the antithesis of the entire ethos of the movie, which is Ohana means family, nobody gets left behind. Like, it's so... And like, I'm not gonna get super into the optics of that in this climate because it's just it's a little Depressing to think about and there are people on tik-tok that say it a lot more eloquently than I guess but it's like

Starting point is 00:54:16 Indigenous native Hawaiians giving up their children to the government is a crazy thing to put in a movie. I- In general, but like in this- Can't fathom, cause everyone was saying they cried at the end of the movie, so I was just like, oh my gosh, like what happened? They cried cause they're pissed.

Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah, I was like that. Yeah. Lilo is like giving up? Yeah. She goes to the government. Is it supposed to be a happy ending in the movie? So I believe that David, the like, not really love interest cause like Nani doesn't, in the original Nani like is so saddled with responsibility,

Starting point is 00:54:50 with zero support systems, that she doesn't have time for a personal life. Like she is picking up the pieces of a broken family from a tragic loss of their parents, and the whole point is like, they find family in Stitch and Jumba impliquely. They make Jumba the villain, they get rid of Gontu, the big killer whale, shark, whatever he is. He's just like not even in the movie. They make Jumba the villain in the live action? Yeah, I think at the end of the movie he gets arrested, which is so strange, and then Nani goes off to college on the mainland so like she's leaving her home too and it's like it feels like they were trying in home too and it's like if it feels like

Starting point is 00:55:25 they were trying in a way to like almost like progressive advise it in a like a weird way they're like well Nani wants to be a marine biologist and she wants to go to college it's like well she did that in her home in Hawaii like why didn't she go to a school in Hawaii and like also I've seen reviews from people saying like, she's a marine biologist, but she's not remotely intrigued by Stitch being a brand new species. Like she just like, it's like, it's literally like they, none of the plot points even connect even. Also, like, I don't even know if it would be the best version to show because

Starting point is 00:56:04 like the live action, the CGI of like Jumba and Plikli, they're creepy. Oh, I haven't seen, I thought they were real people playing them. So because I guess they, I think it was originally a Disney plus show, so the budget was smaller, but like Moana 2, it got bumped up to a feature, but with the same budget. So a lot of the movie, like Plikley and Jumba are completely human disguises. It's just human actors. So that way they don't have to like animate them. Oh, I see.

Starting point is 00:56:32 And like the, it's just a movie like that just, I feel like this does not work outside of being a cartoon because like Pleakley is a one-eyed alien with two tongues and a bob. Like, Pleaclis is a one-eyed alien with two tongues and a bob. Yeah. And people think he's a human woman. Like, literally, like, that, no one, you can't tell me that that's, like, the characters in that movie are gonna believe that in live action because it just, the suspension of disbelief is just not there as much when it's a cartoon with cartoon physics and characters stretching and just, so, like, that part made me sad that like just the live action

Starting point is 00:57:10 kind of sanitizing of it all, the taking out any sort of queer elements of Pleak Lee, that really bothered me. But then the fact that like it just doesn't feel like they understood the plot and the message of the movie. And you explained it so good because you went into even more detail than I thought with the original. Like I really, I hadn't watched either in so long, so I didn't know. But that is like the core of it and taking that away is so wow.

Starting point is 00:57:35 We thought there's no way this movie could flop. It's like, oh my God, there's cute little girls. Oh, so it didn't flop. It made the most money of any Memorial Day release ever, I think. It's the second. After Lion King, it's the second. So it brought in in the weekend, $341 million. Lion King live action was number one?

Starting point is 00:57:54 That's crazy. That's crazy. That's so crazy. Because that one's horrible. The way Lion King from 2019. Lion King from 2019. Yeah, that's a live action. Yeah, they did a remake, which, oh my God, that one bothered me.

Starting point is 00:58:06 That was like National Geographic. I was just like, this is weird. No expressiveness on the animals. And they use like the same like they would recreate the shots from the original. But like then the animators and the storyboard artists wouldn't get credit for like basically making the whole movie that they would just copy and paste. And like, I guess Disney probably has something in their contract where they don't have to but it's just like that's so scummy like oh I didn't know that oh my god you're so like in in like knowledgeable

Starting point is 00:58:32 about all this stuff I I animation is like one of my favorite things I'd love to be a voice actor Disney hire me for a show can you do different voices um can you do Stitch? oh my god uh yeah do it Um You can put stitch on my face cuz I can't watch myself do Give us five seconds That was so good! Oh my gosh! It was perfectly like 5 out of 10 Stitch. That was pretty good!

Starting point is 00:59:12 Thank you. Moses, do your Stitch. I cannot do that. I tried to do Donald Duck for Malibu and it sounded like... Donald Duck is like... That was good! It's really hard. Just say the line Ohana meets family as Stitch. I don't know how to do that. Babe, the alien, just say it. It's really hard. Just say the line, Ohana meets family as stitch.

Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't know how to do that. Babe, the alien, just say it. It will sound like Donald Duck. OK, do it. Go. Ohana meets family. OK, that was good. That was really good.

Starting point is 00:59:35 I can't even. Who was here? Oh, well, we had Sarah guess that was here, but our guest did stitch. Remember our one on Friday? He did stitch. Everyone was doing stitch. I was like, OK, did stitch remember one on Friday I feel like it's one of the easier ones that people can

Starting point is 00:59:59 Like that was good you got the gurgle you got the like half your mouth is filled with spit you got it Is it the same voice actor do you know know? I think so, yeah. Wow, good for him. Just getting the Stitch roles again. Probably got paid a lot to come back to this movie. Oh yeah, he's really good. Which I would hope. Well there's literally 500 Stitch things. We went to Disney Plus this weekend

Starting point is 01:00:15 and there's Stitch movies, Stitch Hawaii, Stitch See. There's so many Stitches. Yeah, there's a show where Stitch is in Japan. Oh, a lot. And there's a show where Stitch is in China. Cause Stitch is really big in just Asian countries in general. It's very popular. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:28 Is there a Stitch like land in Disney over there? Like, cause there's one in Hong Kong. I don't know. I know that Winnie the Pooh is also really popular in Tokyo Disney. Cause they just, I guess they just really love like teddy bears. Like they have a mascot there that is like used more

Starting point is 01:00:44 in the parks than Mickey. And he's just like a teddy bear that's like For Tokyo Disney. Have you been no I never been but I would love to go to Number one destination we have to get a podcast like a lot You don't like Reedus and Kelly would go to like Florida and just sit there outside at Disney World We need to get that for Tokyo Disney where we just go. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much to Sonobello for sponsoring today's episode Genetics can be beautiful. Maybe you got your mom's eyes or her great skin, but genetics can also be a nightmare. I hear friends say, oh, I got mom's belly and love handles.

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Starting point is 01:02:29 I'll do that. That would be so much fun. We gotta figure out how to do it. We'll put it out there. Pop Mart, send us to Japan. We'll go with, is Laboub was Japanese? I don't know. China, I believe.

Starting point is 01:02:38 I'll go there too. Yeah. Hong Kong, I think specifically has Disneyland. Yeah. But it's a little different. Hong Kong, I think is a little different than China. Someone was explaining it to me. Yeah, they are. Yeah. They're independent. Yeah. But it's a little different. Hong Kong, I think, is a little different than China. Someone was explaining it to me. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. They're independent.

Starting point is 01:02:47 Yeah. Oh. Stitch is really, really popular with kids. And then a lot of people are also worried that now kids that are like, they're going to learn about the story from this movie. That's my biggest thing too. And not from the actual original. So they'll see this first before they even know. Oh, no, that is kind of sad actually especially giving up like after like now I have to kind of want to just see the ending because it's like that's crazy How they would even frame it because they probably frame it as like a happy ending. They do. Yeah

Starting point is 01:03:11 So how does but how I can't even like fathom that like Lilo's just like, okay Does she get to bring stitch with her wherever like with the guy don't know that part I don't know. So like foster care is probably the worst thing. Oh, yeah It's literally like they're framing it as like this good thing and I think like she does Stay with David and his grandmother. I think okay, but it's like it's not the government's like in control of you Yeah, it's not a good system and it's been framed as this like Great thing also like Lilo and stitch original, has a lot of commentary about like tourism in Hawaii. Lilo, there's like a cut scene where Lilo is walking down the street

Starting point is 01:03:53 with Stitch and a car full of white people just go, hey, which way to the beach? Like, they're just showing how like she's been made to feel like an outsider in her own home. The girl who bullies her, I think her name is Myrtle, a little white girl. Oh, with the glasses? Yes. Yeah, like it's, she takes pictures of tourists, like the white tourists, because she's like, what is going on here? Like it, it's like, has like a critical lens of like how Hawaiian people don't really love the tourism industry, but they kind of have to put up with it because it supports their economy.

Starting point is 01:04:31 I'm sorry if I'm not like, no, it makes saying it correctly. But no, you're right. I mean, I hear that even all the time, like going to Maui and stuff like that. It's like there is that conflicting. No, they love it because it brings money. But do they like love it? You know what I mean? Especially if you're, yeah, there's a whole,

Starting point is 01:04:47 I didn't know yet. And again, I haven't watched it in so long, but that's so interesting, especially in the cartoon back then, because if it's giving awareness to that, it's good to know, but then like here, it's just, yeah. Ah, that makes me so sad. Because Lilo and Stitch is like so,

Starting point is 01:05:00 we do love it now. We got into it because of, because we were thinking of the Elvis. I don't think he loves Elvis though. I wonder if he loves Elvis in the new movie. I think they, I haven't, again, I haven't seen the movie so I mostly was seeing like breakdowns from people on like TikTok and YouTube and stuff.

Starting point is 01:05:15 But I think even like the whole scene where they're like learning to be like Elvis is gone. Really? Yeah, probably because of like copyright or something. I don't know. Which is weird because they got it for the first. Yeah. But... Alright, well, this is sad. Sad state for Stitch. I was the purple one. Is the little purple girl in it?

Starting point is 01:05:31 No, but... She's like a sequel or something. Yeah, probably. Although I don't know how they can do a sequel because like... No... Jumbo's not gonna be in it. Oh, Nani's gone. She's abandoned. Bye. Yeah, because I also loved the Lilo and Stitch, the TV series on Disney Channel. That was like how I really got into Lilo and Stitch.

Starting point is 01:05:49 Oh. I saw the movie once, but every freaking day on Disney Channel, they would play an episode, because Stitch's experiment 626, there's one to 625, all that. So every episode is like an alien comes to Earth, and then they have to find like a job like

Starting point is 01:06:06 There's an alien that has long nails and it's ripping stuff up And then there's a whole like the plot of the story is like they teach it to cut hair and like it integrates with the Society and like they give it a job and oh you're like expertly little instant No, I didn't see it. Okay, so I didn't think like you were into it, but you know, you're so into it You don't want to see it. That's why yeah, I think it's the first one of the live actions that like And again, like I'm not like diehard like I it's like it's one of my favorite Disney movies for sure But like I said pretty knowledgeable of everything. I think it's just cuz like nostalgia. I just like grew up with it Yeah, like my generation

Starting point is 01:06:39 It's definitely like one of the first Disney movies like a lot of people my age saw and really connected with and stuff. So it's the first one that I'm like, damn, the changes are really tone deaf, really. Yeah, it's so weird. And it's like, you think Disney would learn to get so much backlash from so many things. It's like, what are they not... No, what? With not having the dwarfs being dwarfed. It's so odd. What are they doing over there?

Starting point is 01:07:05 I think they just kind of don't care because I mean, Lilo and Stitch, it made so much money. Like, again, it was breaking records almost. Well, they're going to make 1.1 billion from the movie, but they're gonna make 2.4 billion from the merch. Yeah. Yeah. From all the stuff they're selling around the movie.

Starting point is 01:07:23 So I kind of feel like they just don't really care. And I looked it up last night. I wrote it down. I believe like the critic score was like 69 and like the audience score was in the 90s. So like the average person seeing the movie, probably just like nuclear family that just like doesn't really care. Yeah Yeah, yeah, like it's kind of just like a babysitting tool for them Yeah, you know like they're probably gonna take away from it that like nothing's weird but I don't know I kind of see I really see animation is like art and and like yes, it's media like

Starting point is 01:08:09 Target demographic is children, but if it's, people of all ages can really appreciate it. But important messages for kids, too. Exactly. Exactly. I didn't know about, what's the thing? Pleakly? What is the one you keep? Pleakly. Pleakly.

Starting point is 01:08:15 I had no idea. So he pronouns? He, him, but Pleakly isn't any all queen, I feel like. Whatever. Love's little drag. Yeah. I like like whatever love little drag Yeah, I know that like I can't I haven't seen this in a while, but I like did not know that I was like Oh my gosh. Yeah, probably like Jumbo and pleakly go to earth and you disguise each other each other as humans or they disguise themselves and like Jumbo's just wearing like a Hawaiian t-shirt and like a Sun hat and pleakly is like a

Starting point is 01:08:42 Bob and Flower print dress and it calls himself Aunt Pleakley. Oh, in love. Okay. And in the animated series too, Pleakley's got a different look every episode. Oh, in love. Always a new wig. Yes. I love that. Very Trishian in that way. Yes. Do I look like Pleakley with my bob?

Starting point is 01:08:59 He was ahead of his time with a ball. I love that. So like, and you know, we've seen like the just flagrant assault on queer expression and drag and issues, especially in the last couple months, but like, you know, for the last few years. And it just feels like Disney's kind of like, heeding to that. Yeah, because they're like well Conservatives are gonna not care I guess if we're not woke and no matter how woke we try to be even though they're I don't know how hard they're actually Trying yeah have issues with it. So let's who cares like my god and we're all like pandering to that side now

Starting point is 01:09:39 It's like so it's so scary. It's like awful. Yeah, it's all like Kate mccraig going with Morgan Wallen. Oh my god. Carrie Underwood on American Idol. I'm like oh my god what is happening? Gwen Stefani is also like weirdly religious now. Everyone's just like okay. No way. Is she doing Christian music? What is she doing? I don't know. I don't really know exactly what she's doing but know, isn't she married to Blake Shelton? Oh, not sad, yeah. And like, I forgot, oh my God. She posted something on TikTok recently that was very like about God and, you know,

Starting point is 01:10:17 not trying to cast everyone who believes in a higher power in the same boat, but like as a queer gay person I yeah I can kind of like it's almost like a little triggering to like hear that kind of dialogue I'm like okay I kind of get it just distance yeah I'm not I'm not a I don't really know much about Tate McCray I don't even know if I've heard a single song Wow yeah and I was like thinking about it I thought people loved me too I was trying to get my Tatere era and then I think I tweeted it and everyone's like, no! And I was like, oh my god, okay, what now? You know what I mean? I don't know! I don't know what to- I never know who to go with! I've always picked the wrong person!

Starting point is 01:10:53 I'm always like, this is the person, like, no, no, well, you know, I was like, oh, gotta get a cyber truck like last year, you know? I didn't know about all this stuff and I was like, okay, now, now when I see those, I was like, ugh, you know what I mean? Yeah, could have gotten the No Elon little sticker. Did they put that on their list? Anyone who's still in their lease for a Tesla has a sticker that's like, I don't support Elon. Lease to.

Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm just writing out this lease. We saw one yesterday while we were getting coffee. Oh my god. Oh, that's OK. That's good. Let people know so you don't get cyber attacked. Oh, no. Well, we have Lilo and Stitch.

Starting point is 01:11:24 What was our other one? Where was another one? Oh you do the pop mart. What are the hot topics we got going on? Um I know you guys like to save big ones for the end. What's your big ones for today? What do you think? Um. SpillSesh app. I never forgot. What was my phone? Shout out SpillSesh. Oh yeah. I pregame this podcast. I watch like 80 year videos. So shout out SpillSesh. I might even use your cook for B-roll. Or Oomfies, me and Phil Sesh. I love her. When I edited her episode, she followed me back. And...

Starting point is 01:11:47 Oh, really? Yeah, and she was at Eras of Trish, I was like, oh my god, I would have loved to see you. Wait, she was at Eras of Trish, she was crazy. She did not ask me for tickets, did not ask for like, to come backstage. I'm like, girl, I would have like, hooked you up, would come back. Like, I love her so much. And then when I saw her in the crowd, I was like, that's wild. I was like, you are VIP always.

Starting point is 01:12:03 She has a rotating co-host. She's very cool. Oh my god, I love her. And I get cool I love her again you know what's so funny those lot times the stuff she talks about was like the Justin Bieber it's sometimes it was although we did use Justin Bieber a lot well we can use Justin Bieber again he's a hot topic Oscar usually does title and thumbnail but when he's off I'm like I'll do it you don't have to take time out of your time off. Yeah. And I never know what to do. I know. But Justin Bieber is a good one. Yeah, he is one of my hot topics today.

Starting point is 01:12:28 For the SZA concert? Yes. I guess we could just do that one. Yeah. Because it's kind of minor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, SZA. SZA and Kendrick Lamar, they were performing at?

Starting point is 01:12:38 Was it Tophie? Yeah, I think they're touring together. I didn't know Kendrick was a part of this performance. I only saw SZA. Yeah, I think so. I think our neighbors went. Also shout out Sea Geek for sponsoring this episode. They always say Kendrick Lamar and SZA, so I think they're together on this tour. You didn't... you weren't there. You weren't at Sophie on Friday night. Was it Friday night in Los Angeles? This happened. Justin Bieber came out. Yeah, I think it was a few days ago.

Starting point is 01:12:57 This is the first time Justin Bieber's been out and how long on stage? Oh, I don't know. Are you not a believer? I did not really listen to anything Justin Bieber growing up because closeted little gay boy He was pretty and I was kind of like I can't. Scared. The butterflies I get in my stomach when I see him I'm like this is uncomfortable for me same with One Direction I remember my sister was into them and I she had a poster all of them and I saw like Zayn and Harry and all of them and I was just like, oh they're cute. Like I can't, I can't.

Starting point is 01:13:30 Wait, that's interesting. What was the I can't part of it? Cause you weren't out or you didn't know yourself. I think it was a little both. I was like afraid of those feelings that it was like conjuring. And then I was also like, I don't wanna get called gay. Cause like I would get called gay for breathing

Starting point is 01:13:44 cause I breathe gay. Wow. And you're going to like, I don't want to get called gay. Because I would get called gay for breathing, because I breathe gay. Wow. And you're going to high in middle school in what, the 2000s? Yeah, yeah. And that was the height of Hillary Duff. Don't say gay. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:13:56 I thought we were so stopping that. Diva, they said gay. Really? Oh, that makes me so sad. Thankfully, it's weird. I wasn't really picked on very much from anyone in my actual actual class because I went to a Catholic school in the Bronx and It was the same group of 30 of us from pre-k 3h 3 all the way to 8th grade So like literally 11 years of the same kids

Starting point is 01:14:18 Okay, so like they're not really gonna pick on you because like you see each other every day You've been friends for a long time So you're like at most acquaintances with a person that sits on the other side of the room from you. But people in my neighborhood who I saw on the weekends for basketball or baseball, not the kindest. So I did get picked on by people in the neighborhood and stuff for being gay and stuff.

Starting point is 01:14:43 Was it, that's so interesting, because you weren't like crushing on guys. So what was it? They just, they thought maybe the way you looked or dressed. The, the scent. Oh no, that's so sad. I definitely like, I remember I got, I got made fun of for like the way I laugh.

Starting point is 01:15:00 Oh. Which now I feel like it's like a hiring requirement. Like you can't work on just Tricia. I feel like your energy gets scary when people don't laugh. I'm like is it good? Are we not going? You know there were two girls sitting in front of me at errors of Trish And they were like we hope you enjoy the show and my boyfriend was like he's gonna be cackling get ready At the end of the show they were like we love your laugh No, it's laughing like that and the genuineness and the uniqueness of it is just like so contagious.

Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm also very self-conscious about my laugh in general. That's why I never usually laugh out loud. I do more so now, but I used to never laugh out loud because people would always call me loud and stuff like that because I used to laugh so loud as a kid. I'm like, you're so loud. Stop it. I'm always self-conscious, but now I love it. I love a good laugh, but I'm still a little self-conscious to laugh because also I don't

Starting point is 01:15:44 know what my laugh is. I steal people's laughs like I do feel like I laugh like Oscar sometimes now I used to laugh like Holly Madison They still like steal people's like laughs cuz I'd like was so self-conscious about mine So I probably start laughing like you a little giggle after this But Justin Bieber your sister liked and you were like I can't like this I don't think my sister really like was a fan. Yeah, she was more one direction But like most people like like Justin Bieber and I like, you know, I baby was very popular I probably watched more Justin Bieber parodies on YouTube back in the day Baker not Barbaker

Starting point is 01:16:13 But there was one the key of awesome. Do you remember that? I don't know but they had one With Justin Bieber. They did a few with Justin Bieber like that real doesn't be bird No, no, no, like I think we're just a woman in a wig but Justin to always having yeah, I'm a lesbian with the haircut Like I feel so mean not great about how society has treated him It kind of is like how Brittany was treated in the 2000s No, it's so sad to watch and And then like, you see the outcome of it

Starting point is 01:16:45 and they still do this day. Like I feel, I feel for him. I feel for Haley. I'm God, that's like so awful, so sad. But him and SZA did a song. They had a song together. Yeah, I don't know the name of the song. I should have wrote it down.

Starting point is 01:16:57 And he came and performed it with her. It was like a big deal. Snooze is the song, they snooze. That's right, yeah. Okay, facts over there. Me on my alarm this morning. That's her, it was her number. That's snooze.'s right yeah I did not want to wake up late because I know you're very like about I've never been late before so I don't know why I

Starting point is 01:17:13 don't know about it I feel like we're gonna start on time today and honestly I don't mind a little lateness you know whatever like anymore cuz I'm at home so I'm like I could have a little snack but I was like I feel like we're gonna start on time today which we love which we love you picked the earlier time I said do you want 10 a.m. and you want new and you said I'll do 10 a little snack. But I was like I feel like we're gonna start on time today, which we love, which we love. You picked the earlier time. I was like do you want 10 a.m. or do you want noon? And you said I'll do 10 a.m. I was like perfect, we'll do that. But because of that my house is actually so easy

Starting point is 01:17:31 to just be like oh, when people are late. I was like all right, I'll just get a snack or something. But yeah, I set like five alarms this morning. Oh my God. 805, 810, 815, like I'm just like. Oh. Because I know I'm gonna snooze the first three. Do you really?

Starting point is 01:17:42 I'm someone who like gets up before me. I'm so scared like I'm not gonna wake up. I get up before the alarm even goes off. I turn off in my sleep It's so bad. I like start leaving my phone on the floor So I have to like really reach to turn it off. Physically get up. Yeah, so they performed snooze at Sophie Everyone kind of made a big deal of this because I guess it was the way it says it was like holding his face I watched it and I was kind of like well,, no, not the way she was holding her face, the way he was acting. What did he do?

Starting point is 01:18:08 He was just like kissing her hand, gave a little kiss to the hand. The way I saw it, he was just high out of his mind. That's what I've seen. A lot of people like he was high. It kind of seems like SZA could tell that he was high and like kind of making sure he like was steady. So he was.

Starting point is 01:18:23 Allegedly high. He came out. Well, we need to ask Oscar here. This shows for entertainment. This is only he came out on stage. He sang his part, the first part. But then you could see that he was really into it and in his own mind.

Starting point is 01:18:43 And his eyes were closed. He wasn't even holding the microphone anymore. At this point, he was own mind and his eyes were closed. He wasn't even holding the microphone anymore at this point. He was just singing and his eyes were closed. And then she saw that she needs to kind of bring him back to the world. So that's why she touched his face. She kind of opened his eyes for a second and then closed them again, kissed her hand, all that.

Starting point is 01:18:59 That's fine. But the way they exit the stage, the stage was actually going down. Oh, I didn't see that part. So they had the mark that they had to get to by a certain amount of time, and she was just doing the best she could to get him there,

Starting point is 01:19:12 because he was just like in his own mind. He was eyes closed, feeling the music. I mean, he was having a great time. So what if he was just high on the music? You during Freaky. Could be. That's what I'm saying. It could be.

Starting point is 01:19:24 Either way, you gotta find your ball. The stage is moving. Like you're in the wrong place. You're gonna fall. You're gonna whatever. This is her show. You're a guest on her show. You gotta be at your best. You gotta not embarrass her. You're there to help her.

Starting point is 01:19:40 Not to hype her. I did not even consider that part. I thought the big thing was about the kiss. I felt so too. If SZA is comfortable with it, then I don't see a problem. But if it was not something, because I thought it was like, oh, you know, it's a duet. Like I thought it was like the kiss on the mouth. No, on the hand. He was kissing your hand. So I thought like maybe it was planned. That's what I got. But I guess not really not. None of this was planned. Wow. None of this. I mean, this is, you could see that she was struggling to just make sure that he's okay and gets to his point. At this point, you're not even singing at your best, you know, because you're just making sure everything is fine. How was he singing? If he didn't have his microphone in his hand? How did you hear the

Starting point is 01:20:17 singing? Well, there was a backtrack. So when he first came out, he was holding the mic. Then he just forgot he even had a mic in his hand. So people were just upset that she had to deal with all that part of making sure he's fine, getting to his mark, not getting injured. Some people were upset about him. He didn't just give her one kiss, he was like repeatedly kissing her hand and she kind of diverted him and some people don't like that, that a woman has to deal with that on stage. Oh, hi. And then also she got closer, you know, he hugged her and like she was doing her best just to keep him up awake. You don't think that was like planned affection on stage?

Starting point is 01:20:58 No, which is fine. Like maybe they had something planned, but none of that happened. Whatever happened was just at the moment on her trying her best to save the moment. Wow. Yeah, I only saw one POV. So it made it look like it was same because it was for me. I saw the longer clear. Yeah, it seemed like the issue that people were having was like, oh, there was this connection

Starting point is 01:21:20 on stage and Haley's in the audience. Right. That's what I thought. So I was like, oh, they like plan this thing and was it inappropriate to do? But there's video that I will insert of Haley like filming it. And if she is blocked, she's doing a good job hiding it

Starting point is 01:21:38 because she looks like she's fine. She's filming and she's hyping them up. And she also posted it. She said my two favorite musicians. She's filming and she's hyping them up. And she also posted it. She said, my two favorite musicians. He doesn't look to me that messed up. I only because last week again, I need to bring this up again, whatever about me. But in Sacramento, I was constipated.

Starting point is 01:21:57 I had taken mirror looks for a week and I couldn't go to the bathroom for a week. And I feel like I was performing in that same capacity where I was sweating. And then I threw up when I went off stage. So I I was like maybe I just thought constipation or something. I didn't think it was like drugs. I mean that's why I told my audience I had to tell them like you guys I haven't you know I'm constipated and because I didn't want them to think that. The vulnerability that we the judges are looking for. I mean because I didn't want that because of this now people speculate I was like wow I don't want people to speculate because I was like sweating. I was like kind of hallucinating because I don't want that to be because of this. Now people will speculate. I was like, wow, I don't want people to speculate because I was like sweating.

Starting point is 01:22:26 I was like kind of hallucinating because I hadn't gone to the bathroom in like a week and I just had taken so much Miralac. And so I was like, I just have to let them know that if it's a high look, it's like high. So to me, it doesn't look that bad. Okay, all the stuff you're saying, if she's like not uncomfortable with the kiss,

Starting point is 01:22:39 of course that's a different thing. The going down off the stage, they were fine then. He was fine to get off the stage. She pulled him. She dragged him to the spot, to the mark. She kept pointing, like she was literally telling him, you need to be at this mark. Wow. Yeah, that is really lame that she had to kind of coddle him.

Starting point is 01:22:57 Most likely it was an accident. Yeah. In the music, people there backstage, partying, it's normal, it's very normal. People are usually, a lot of people performing are high, usually on stuff that's much more, you know. That's what I'm saying. He had a great time.

Starting point is 01:23:12 Like this is, you're like up there, you're hearing the crowd, the music, the lights. He was having a ball. But I think he probably just by accident went a bit too far. And then he was- Well, I feel more bad for, yeah, I feel, well, like you said said bad for both.

Starting point is 01:23:25 But if he has a if there is a problem, but maybe he just like you said, maybe he just had a good time. That's what I think. I think you just had a great time. Because he always seems like when I see him and stuff like the paparazzi videos, he seems like the kids not here. And she doesn't special. It's not fair to her. Yeah. But that's that happens.

Starting point is 01:23:43 I mean, it happens. Yes, I've been on stage in a long time. So maybe I like anxiety. Yeah. Because that happens. I mean, it happens. Yes, he hasn't been on stage in a long time. So maybe he had anxiety or something like that. Because he hasn't performed. I'm a relatively new believer, but I don't think he's performed since the Purpose Tour, which was literally before COVID and stuff. So I think it's been a while.

Starting point is 01:23:55 I think even when he's been on the Jumbotronic games, I think he's just uncomfortable sometimes with attention. And then I would be the same way. Oh my God, if I had to perform a big thing, oh my God, I'd probably be like, I don't know. I was nervous coming here. You're like, what can I? Yeah. What's in the Stanley?

Starting point is 01:24:10 Like, you know what I mean? Like you just I'd have to take something because it is probably like a lot. And then Haley, of course, gets some I thought it was about the Haley not like. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, I didn't even realize that it could have been not planned. Yeah, because like I again, I only saw the one video. So I fully thought it was like, oh, they had this little moment

Starting point is 01:24:28 and like, was it rude to do it in front of Hailey? And now it's like, oh, it's like a three sided issue now. That it's like, well. Which it sucks to be Hailey. It would have sucked to like always hear that your husband's not into you. Cause there's like so many edits now of like, he hates her, all this stuff like that, him walking in front of her.

Starting point is 01:24:46 And it's like, well, he is super famous with the fact that he has to run in and dodge things. And it just sucks. When we first started dating, people were like, oh, he's not into her. People always say about anyone I dated, oh, you can tell he hates her. It's just the worst thing to hear.

Starting point is 01:25:00 And then you're married with this person, have a baby, and you still have to hear it all the time. And you can do so many posts and people will still analyze all the posts like they're not into each other they're not this and like you said she was filming him and people still were like disrespectful to her I'm like she looked fine yeah because she knows he's like a performer. I think it's impressive on her end to be so secure with that. Oh. Because she probably knows that that's not real like that's a performance

Starting point is 01:25:26 It's for the song, you know, like people do Romantic duets that are not like in a relationship all the time. Like that's just part of the industry So I think she's aware of that. She's not as like, you know, she's like she's a grown woman Yes, so who do you think had to take care of him after that? Yeah You know what? I mean the guy is like out of his mind, somebody has to take him home and make sure he's fine and safe and all that.

Starting point is 01:25:49 And she's the one doing all that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like all that stuff, yeah, it's a lot. I love Justin Bieber. I have hope, I think he'll have like a good comeback, you know what I mean? I think, but yeah, struggling with anything's hard. He's working on new music, I mean. Oh, he is, I didn't know that. How do you. I'm working on new music. I mean, oh yes

Starting point is 01:26:12 He's like they've been saying him and Hillary Duff cooking in the studio Her husband shared that I was so excited. Have you ever seen that? Uh, I think it's the today show where she's doing the Gives literally nothing. It's so nothing that is everything I should try to put that little in the mix at pride start doing a little dance So good people will get it people will know and they'll all do the side by side Oh my god, that would be so good I wonder if we could switch it out. There has to be some music in there. Maybe during the bubbly dance break,

Starting point is 01:26:47 I can try and incorporate it or something. That'd be so good. No, Hillary Duff wasn't icon. I'm surprised you, I told you Duff, because she's a little bit like a different generation. Yeah, I knew of her. I didn't really watch much Lazy McGuire, but like, yeah, definitely not.

Starting point is 01:27:02 Cause it was like born 97 have any sentience post like 2000 so like I don't really remember like losing the wire even Steven yeah that was way I remember like sweet life of Zack and Cody a little bit of that's so raving because it was still going on yeah I was younger Hannah Montana though it was like that's the that's the generation guy Lizzie McGuire that's how I feel so some people have Miley I feel like like Tana all these people but the killer the same age It's like a whole decade behind me and it is crazy how a decade is

Starting point is 01:27:30 That's why with age gap relations are always such a big like it's so weird to me because there is that decade That's like you it's just such a difference. You know what I mean? Like Miley to me. I like her but there's no impact Let's share my life. I was like, I don't know like kind of Justin Bieber I think we'll let's see the train cuz I just came and I was like, I don't know, like, kind of like Justin Bieber. I didn't want to see the train because like Justin Bieber came and I was like, I don't know, it's this little kid. Like, what am I going to like watch? But Mya Cyrus is reunited though. She's back with her dad now.

Starting point is 01:27:53 She's a back on team Billy Ray. Who's he? He's dating Elizabeth Hurley. Do you know her? No. Oh my gosh. Yes. Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.

Starting point is 01:28:02 She's from the original Austin Powers. She did Hugh Jackman. Like she's beautiful. Huh? What? That Hugh Grant? Who? He, she did date Hugh Grant.

Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah. When he had that scandal with the prostitute. You said she dated Hugh Jackman. Oh, thank you. Hugh Grant. Yes. Thank you. I was like, yes, she did date Hugh Grant.

Starting point is 01:28:21 Yes, thank you. Hugh Grant. She's dating Billy Rees-Syrus now. I was like, and Billy Rees-Syrus. Hugh Grant, she's dating Billy Rezaris now. I'm like, and Billy Rezaris, yeah. But I know it's a whole thing now because I think people are like, wait, Miley was never on her dad's side but now she's hanging out with him again.

Starting point is 01:28:33 Yeah, I think there was a drama that her mom unfollowed her, but it was a glitch. Do you believe in those Instagram glitches? I don't know. Has it happened to you? I've never accidentally unfollowed somebody, but I have accidentally followed people. I've accidentally reposted things like on TikTok because I'll just be swiping, but my thumb will hit the like three people you follow reposted.

Starting point is 01:28:56 If you just tap it, I think they've changed it since then. Yeah, but it used to just be like, if you click that, it automatically reposts for you So I've just reposted like random like people dancing that i've just scrolled past That's so funny. And how do you know you did it? Because it'll say like repost it. I'm like nope and I go back But I undo it. Yeah, oh tiktok is scary. Even the like button is like so scary to hit well Shout out got mick from ruPaul's drag race. You love got mick. Yes uh The edit I did of the fupa, Gottmik liked it. And I got the notification

Starting point is 01:29:29 cause I am tagged in the post. So I screenshot it. So, you know, Gottmik. Love Gottmik. I guess friend of the pod. Yes, I want him on the podcast. Oh my God. Like everything iconic in every way.

Starting point is 01:29:39 Love the book. Did you ever read the book with Gigi? No, I haven't. So good. Oh my God. I remember they were advertising it on the subway in New York. There was like ads on the subway. That's crazy. Yeah, it was cool. I guess here with a publisher, they probably do all that because I always see those. I'm like, that's pretty

Starting point is 01:29:52 impressive. I need to read more books. You're not a book writer? I want to be. I have like a little collection. I do love like a graphic novel. I've read a couple like Scott Pilgrim and- You love Scott Pilgrim. That also seems like above your generation. Oh, I-I- Is it your generation? No. A little bit. I think like definitely, um, like I'm the probably youngest maybe of people like that got into it back in the day, but like loved the movie.

Starting point is 01:30:16 Did you watch it? Was it Michael Cera? Yeah, yeah. It's a stacked cast. It's like Chris Evans, uh, Brie Larson, Aubrey Plaza. Wait, really? Uh, Anna Kendrick, isn't it? It'sarson, Aubrey Plaza. Wait, really? Anna Kendrick is in it. What year is that? Like, 2014? 2011 or 12, I think.

Starting point is 01:30:30 But yeah, the comics, I read the comics in middle school. Then the movie came out, there's a video game. They came out with a new Netflix animated series like two years ago, I loved that. That's so funny. Yeah, love Scott Pilgrim. I guess that seems like you, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't care for the movie, maybe it wasn't for me, maybe I got that. That's so funny. Yeah, love Scott Pilgrim. I guess that seems like you. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:30:45 I didn't care for the movie, but maybe it wasn't for me. I definitely think that the movie of all the different Scott Pilgrim things is definitely lower on the list of favorites. Okay, so you agree. But it's still iconic. I love Edgar Wright, so I was like, oh, I'm going to love this movie because I really did love everything he's done before that. And then when I saw that, I was kind of like, I don't know. But it because I really did love like everything he's done before that and then when I saw that I was kind of like mmm

Starting point is 01:31:06 But it's so different than the movies he did before like all the was like hot fuzz and those movies I used to watch And I was like I loved it, but it was not my favorite. I didn't meet him I used to stand in line for him and I do like meet and greets I always think about who I stood in line for and I remember standing line for Edgar Wright I love that you did that like that's so funny to me I need to find that photo because I'm like with him and it like it's very it's very odd And I stood in line for like three hours. I think it's too light even for Kevin Smith We talked about that on George's Gate last time how I thought I looked like him

Starting point is 01:31:30 I think I stood in line to see him. I'm like I only know him. I've never seen anything. He's made The only thing I know him from is Degrassi He was I guess he was like there was an episode in like the early Degrassi seasons, which like I've seen almost all of Degrassi from like season one to like whatever Holly J left. Like that is like when I tapped out, I was like, okay, the OG generation's like gone and gone. Okay.

Starting point is 01:31:58 How many seasons? Like 10 seasons? Oh, it's probably like 13 at least. Wow. But yeah, in like middle Degrassi, like they, I guess guess he was like we're filming a movie here at Degrassi High cuz I think he's Canadian so Kevin Smith. He might be maybe but yeah, that's how I learned who this guy was So he was on Degrassi saying he's filming a movie Yeah, he's playing himself and they're like we're filming a movie at the school who wants to be in it

Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm pretty sure that was the plot. Oh my god Yeah, just like one line like that or here a couple lines He was like in he was heavily featured in the episode I literally like who is this so then like when I started to see him like in stuff I was like, oh my god, Kevin James from Degrassi Kevin Smith Love Kevin James. Oh, he's so handsome. I stop it. I feel it I've been in though in the UPS uniform with a little short. You are literally my mom

Starting point is 01:33:01 The gays out there like Like Kevin James. No. Maybe not all of them, but there's a lot of them. If you feel me, you feel me. Give me one gay out there that's like Kevin James is hot. My boyfriend. If there's one person. He thinks so too? We both watched King of Queens and we're like, oh my God, Leah Remini is so hot.

Starting point is 01:33:19 She's so funny. And then we're like, Kevin James, he's so funny. He's so hot. Here I always thought I was a gay man, but maybe I'm not because I do not get it. That's so crazy. That's so wild. I would be more Kevin Smith. I'd be like, mm, he's kind of hot.

Starting point is 01:33:31 I get that. Yeah, he has a swag to him for sure. He lost a bunch of weight, though. It is crazy when people lose. Again, I love that everyone lose weight for their health or whatever, but they do change a little bit. I don't know if it's like, I don't know who's on Ozempic, who's not, but sometimes they say,

Starting point is 01:33:44 Ozempic and mandar like changes your mind the way you like feel about food. So I wonder if it changes like your personality too because sometimes when people get really skinny it's like their personality changes and not like in a not a negative way like Jonah Hill's the one I think of where like he always seemed super like in interviews early on he always seemed like very sweet and nice and then like once he got skinny he started getting really like angry and mean. Yeah. I'm like what happens there? I feel like he's he's done some stuff where he's kind of said some nasty things lately.

Starting point is 01:34:10 Yes. And I felt I was feeling bad for him for a while because there would be compilations of people just fat shaming him mid-interview on The Tonight Show and all these. And he just is like, what the hell? He's on a press junket. Yes. So I felt bad for him. And obviously like obviously you still feel bad for him despite Whatever. I don't really know exactly what he said and done, but I know that he people are like he's kind of not a great guy Yeah, but I feel that change

Starting point is 01:34:35 I don't maybe once again Maybe it's the way media treated him or something like that because he's like changed so much is like he's super seem like such a happy Go like because I think you treat something that's partly psychological, spiritual, with something that's more material. Like, you're not addressing the issues. I get that. So I think, you know, if anything, it pushes people even further. I feel like maybe doing Ozempic with, like, therapy could probably...

Starting point is 01:34:59 Because it's like, it's probably... It's such a dramatic physical change. I can't imagine how that affects you mentally. I always think about that, like, just dropping a ton of weight. Yeah, I always think about that in general. Like, a lot of influencers, too, have dropped a dramatic physical change. I can't imagine how that affects you mentally. I always think about that, like just dropping a ton of weight. Yeah, I always think about that in general. Like a lot of influencers too have dropped a ton of weight. Like I think of Remy Jo Bader, I think of Finita, and I always think, and you see like their psyche

Starting point is 01:35:13 or even their personality change, not like in a mean way, not in a bad way, just in a very different way where at the beginning they were just like so like lighthearted, happy, funny, and then you can just see the way people talk about them, good or bad, is like affecting them. And it makes me so sad. And they do the best they can, but I couldn't imagine either.

Starting point is 01:35:29 Like all of a sudden you lose weight. There's probably so many things like in your head thinking like, oh, so people do treat me better. Like it's a double edged sword. It's like, oh, this is better because people treat me better. But like, why wasn't I good enough when I was bigger? But also, oh, I was supposed to get all the success when I'm skinny, but also I'm not going to do the success I thought I was going to get because I was skinny.

Starting point is 01:35:44 Or I don't know, there's all these different things or, oh, everyone's going to be the success when I'm skinny But also I'm not gonna do this because I thought I was gonna get cuz I was gonna hear I don't know there's all these different things or oh everyone's gonna be excited cuz some people lose weight and everyone cheers and then other people lose weight and Everyone's like liar didn't tell us cheater like also it's like such a crazy thing So I don't know if I would yeah, I would handle that either. I don't know kudos to everyone who does it. But Yeah, it is always like oh, she's too fat and then she's the way. Oh, she's skinny doesn't look good Or she like looks gone. She looks like, so it's like. It seems like the body also doesn't react too well

Starting point is 01:36:09 to it happening fast. Yeah. Like people losing hair, teeth, eyes, I don't know what. Like people are just, and your body doesn't have time to adjust, so suddenly you just look like the gun. Like you just look. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:24 I don't know. It's slow and steady. Did you ever get in the diet fads back in the day? No, no. That's good. How did you escape that? Well, I grew up really thin. Oh, so you never had issues.

Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah, but it's obviously like not the same struggle, but I definitely like had a lot of body image issues because I was a lot thinner. Oh, interesting. Yeah, like in high school, I remember this guy came up one time. I was just sitting there with my friends and he like squeezed my arm. He was like, just as I thought, nothing there.

Starting point is 01:36:51 And I was just it was like mortifying. We really? Yeah. So I I started like going to the gym and lifting weights and like bulking up. Yeah. You're so like beefy now you go to the gym. You know, so was it because you felt you felt like skinny was bad um I guess I guess I I didn't I just didn't like how I looked like I didn't feel confident I guess so I started putting on weight for that reason mm-hmm and I mean I definitely noticed like a shift in attention that I

Starting point is 01:37:22 got for sure especially from like gay men. Oh, interesting. Once I started like going to the gym and like posting a post gym like little selfie or something like that. They like thicker. Um, I think they just like, just like more traditional, like conventionally attractive, I guess, like body. I don't know. I don't know what it is. But the lesbians, they've been there from every era So yeah, right or die lesbians out of the lesbian wet seas honestly That's my goal is to have an all lesbian audience and yeah, that's it that's all I want that'd be

Starting point is 01:37:56 Maybe I'll go host lesbian night. I was he asked for like gay nights down in we hope I'm like I mean if there was like a lesbian night, don't be fierce. There's not a lot of spaces for lesbians Unfortunately like in media or in the world in general like in everything but especially like bars like there's like very few lesbian bars Yeah, they only have like lesbian nights. Yeah, like Like gay bars in general also like kind of dying like it because people are just not going out and socializing in that same way And it's really tough for like drag queens who perform at these bars yeah but like I don't I think there might even be literally be like less than 10 lesbian bars in the entire United States that is what yeah yeah my aunt is a lesbian and

Starting point is 01:38:38 she was like a second mother to me growing up when she was very integral in my life weirdly was afraid to come out to her. Really? Yeah, I don't even know why. I think it was because it was just a secret. I don't want to tell anybody. It's just hard to even say the words. When did you come out? I was 18.

Starting point is 01:38:55 Wow, oh my gosh. Which is both young and late. Right, because people are 14 now coming in. Yeah, which is amazing. I think I went to an all boys Catholic high school. So I think that was part of the reason why I didn't because I like saw how some of the even more effeminate flamboyant guys in my class would get bullied. So I was like, I'm barely going to talk to anybody during the day, besides my friends, because I don't need to invite that into my space.

Starting point is 01:39:22 I think even the younger generation, someone who has like a son, and they don't know his sexuality or his gender identity or anything like that. They just kind of just, he's just him. Like you know what I mean? And I think that's so interesting too, how it's like maybe they won't come a day where you have to like come out necessarily.

Starting point is 01:39:38 People are just like, whatever, you know, whatever you like is, it is a crazy thing to have to say your sexuality to someone like I'm gay it's like That's such a weird thing. You should just be I don't know or even that it's different, but I think I think Generation beta I think they it won't be like that work because I see it so much everywhere You know same-sex parents all this stuff like that where it's just like not even a thing It's just like oh I get afraid that like the algorithms that they're all just like so locked into are gonna make them like super conservative traditional like mindset because like I saw recently on

Starting point is 01:40:15 some like late night show they like signed up for TikTok as like a high school boy and within 30 minutes they were being fed like misogynistic stuff on their algorithm. Oh my God, that's so scary. And it's really scary. Oh, I know, and again, what do you do to stop it? That's like the worst thing is like, I hate hearing about stuff, like a lot of people don't watch stuff because they just feel so helpless

Starting point is 01:40:37 because they feel like, what can we do? That's what I always ask about that stuff, even like that kind of thing is like, what do you do to stop it? You like can't. I don't even have an answer for that. I just know what's happening and then yeah me awake. Yeah Terrifying. Yeah, you're talking about being close with your niece Do you ever get like the baby fever the edge do you think of you'll have kids? Um, you're so young now But yeah, I definitely I it's something I'm like I'll think about it again when I'm in my mid-30s

Starting point is 01:41:01 I think cuz I think that's that's when my parents had me and my sister. Yeah, my mom, I know she was 35 when she had my sister. So yeah, 33 when she had me. Wow, yeah, I'm 30. When am I 37? 37, about to have my third baby. I think that's a good age, because you really, not to shame young mothers

Starting point is 01:41:20 or fathers or anything like that, because I know plenty and they have amazing kids. But I know for me personally, I couldn't imagine even now having a child because it's so much to financially support them and I can barely remember to eat myself with my ADHD and everything. So it's that. But then it's also like, I don't know, you spend a lot of your time in your 20s figuring out who you are and all that. And it's probably really difficult to do that with a child Oh, I applaud people in their 20s doing it because that's that's so wild to have to like yeah

Starting point is 01:41:52 Think of someone else because it is oh your whole and it's your whole life. So When you have a kid and so yeah having a kid at 20, which is I always wanted I wanted to be a mom from like 23 I think I was like trying and stuff like that But I couldn't even imagine because like it does become your whole life being a parent. So it's like, you really do have to give up your life. Why do fintechs like Float choose Visa as a more trusted, more secure payments network?

Starting point is 01:42:15 Visa provides scale expertise and innovative payment solutions. Learn more at visa.ca slash fintech. And yes, it's like 18 years in like, but I think because we were both older, it was kind of like we lived our lives where I was like, there is something in you in your like mid thirties, late thirties, not everyone,

Starting point is 01:42:32 but for a lot of people where it's just like, it just seems like the next step. You're like, I've lived my life, what's next? You know what I mean? So, but you're so good with kids. So that's why I wondered. You said that your niece like drawn to you. I don't really feel the calling at all

Starting point is 01:42:44 to have my own Yeah, but I I do love kids Hilarious and so creative and it's so fun. I feel more confident like when I'm at a social setting and there's a kid there I'm like, what's like play pretend like we just we're all sitting at table and I'm like playing the dolls with them and playing The boo-boo. It was like you are like a kid like the Nintendo It's like all I got to do kid, like the Nintendo. Yeah, like I, it's like, all I gotta do is focus on the scene that we're building. Like I don't have to really like think about the-

Starting point is 01:43:10 Social aspects anywhere else. Yeah, yeah, so I'm just kinda like, okay, I'll do the babysitting so like the mom can get a break and- That's a beautiful thing though too. I think that's like so beautiful. I was never connected to kids. For some reason I was gonna be a mom,

Starting point is 01:43:20 but like kids I was never connected to at first. But obviously now with kids it's like fun cause we had a birthday party full of kids like on Saturday and I was like It's a different how I like it like changes, you know that stuff But we were talking about something way before that queer being having kids lesbians were lesbians Well, that's to add on to that I

Starting point is 01:43:42 Really valued so much having my gay aunt who does not have children Being like a secondary parent support system for me Especially in my teen years. I my my dad's ex-wife was incredibly abusive my mom passed away when I was 11 like so it was like years and years and years of just like Horrible things happening. So it was really great for me to have someone outside of my home with no kids of their own that was like an escape support system. Not that I think that like anyone in like Dallas's

Starting point is 01:44:14 niece and nephew, my sister, she ever has kids are gonna have that same situation. But you know, I know how much it helped me to like be able to get on a train and go up to Connecticut and like spend the weekend away from it all. So I'm like I want to have the time to do that for my niece and nephews and stuff. Honestly, yeah, like the outside help of the family makes like such a difference. You're, oh my god, so losing your mom at that age, did that like... Yeah, she was 35 when she was pregnant with my sister and she was diagnosed with breast cancer.

Starting point is 01:44:44 So I think she was getting chemo while she was pregnant. Yeah. I most of my mom growing up. She did not have hair. She was wearing a bandana. Oh, yeah. Oh my god How old was she when she passed? Oh god. Um, it's in early 40s. Oh my god. I was 11 so About 35 I was two It's like nine years later, I think and you remember yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, it was weird like it was like five days before Christmas and she was in the hospital for a few months and I was like so excited for her to come home and they kind of didn't tell us that like She was gonna pass. Oh my god

Starting point is 01:45:24 so like I was excited for her to walk through the door and it was like nurses carrying her and yeah it was... Oh my god. Sorry I didn't mean to like... No! I kind of forget that like it's like because it's so long ago for me that it's like it's like kind of a trauma note but... Oh my god no that's literally... Yeah and they were like yeah they were like she'll make it to Christmas She said they said she had like five days and she had like seven hours or something it was rough Do you still like have you gotten a therapy for it? Yeah, not soon not as soon as I probably should have yeah, but oh my gosh Like as a parent, that's like my biggest. Yeah, that's so sad. Yeah. Oh my gosh

Starting point is 01:46:03 And so then you would you you would have your aunt, you'd go see, cause you were in York. It was, it was my mom's sister and like, they were tight. Like they were like a year or two apart. So yeah, very tight. And you know, she had a lot of her friends from like childhood, like still in her life and they all had kids around the same time. So they call themselves the schoolyard girls.

Starting point is 01:46:21 And so like they were really great support system for me and my sister. But then yeah, my dad started dating again and I was always okay with it, but just wasn't the right person and she really did not like my sister and I, kind of narcissistic. A lot of other like mental problems

Starting point is 01:46:41 that she was not taking care of and it was like really bad. Like she would like scratch my mom's face out of photos and mine, that's like the, just like the only thing I really feel comfortable like sharing, like paint a picture, but like just like seven or eight years of like constant verbal abuse and stuff. I developed vitiligo of autoimmune disease from the stress.

Starting point is 01:47:02 And yeah. Oh my gosh. And they're divorced now. Yeah, they got divorced in like 2017 he remarried last year to a beautiful wonderful woman I spoke at their wedding I love her so much amazing child Tonka Yeah, I think she's from Montenegro I believe yeah, she's she's the coolest she's so cool she has two great kids I'm excited to see them. We're gonna like Tahoe in July. Oh my god. Okay, so there was like a happy ending Yeah, yeah, but it was really rough for a while for sure and I kind of just like kids you're helpless You can't like yeah move out of the house. You can't go to mom, you know, like that's yeah

Starting point is 01:47:36 Yeah, she moved in pretty quickly too. And it was like it was just It was like I kind of didn't process how bad it was for the first few years And then like as I like got in my like mid to late teens Like I'm starting to have a lot of awareness of like this is not normal. This is like really insane and you know, it's what was your Escape like what did you do? YouTube? I did YouTube. Yeah that yeah, I started doing YouTube in 2007 I started making videos about webkins In 2007 I started making videos about webkins And I still up no unfortunately I deleted them But the only the remnants of that era is I made because I thought people would not call me gay if I had a

Starting point is 01:48:12 Fangirl that was in love with me Webkins pet 97 lover and that account is still up Obsessed with me And what would you say? She just would leave comments like love him Jimmy's the coolest I was like, I'm not gay this girl's obsessed with me I would think like make up a girlfriend But you're like let me make up a fan I'm not I'm not actually at the girls but like I need to show that girls could possibly like me like why would a girl like me if I was gay you know? Like I need to show that girls could possibly like me like why would a girl like me if I was gay, you know? Oh

Starting point is 01:48:46 That's so funny So I started making those and then I made videos about Sonic and I made like stop-motion animation videos Oh my god back then? Yeah, and I would review toys and then I shifted to making like the videos that are still up now About like Pokemon and other like video games and I would just review them and I did that for a really long time And then kind of stopped because my mental health was really bad in like 2020 Europe I know 2019 is not great for you 2018 is my was the those years. Yeah. Yeah the hotlines I had them on speed dial and it helped you. Yeah, I

Starting point is 01:49:20 One time they did put me on hold One time they did put me on hold I was like D.Va Were you like I'm about to end it, they're like hold for five minutes There was one time The first time I called they were like What's your name? I was like Jimmy and they said Chimmy Oh, Jimmy's like a very common name

Starting point is 01:49:36 I was like D.Va If it was Chimmy I would have called years ago That's crazy Oh and they put you on hold How long? Like five minutes but you know it was good That's crazy. And they put you on hold. How long? Um, like five minutes. But, you know, it was good.

Starting point is 01:49:48 I like, I never, you know, I never, I'm very fortunate. I never made like plans. It was more just like, I was having anxiety attacks that were like really, really hard to deal with. And I like, I couldn't think of anything else and because of my OCD. So I would just, I needed to call someone to talk to on the phone. That's amazing that you were able to do that because so many people won't reach out for help. In my senior year of high school, we had a social worker in school.

Starting point is 01:50:11 The beginning of the year, every year, she would say, here's an anonymous form. You don't have to come up to me and tell me if you want to see. You just fill it out. You check yes or no and you write your homeroom and then send a slip and it'll look like any other guidance slip for college counseling and stuff like that. And yeah, she was amazing and that was like a really great support and system for me in senior year when I finally like was speaking to her to just talk about like my home life because it was just like, it was like getting really turbulent at that point. Of course.

Starting point is 01:50:41 And if you have no one to talk about it with, then that's the most terrifying thing, yeah, as a kid is like having nowhere to go, have no one to talk about it with then that's the most terrifying thing as a kid is like having nowhere to go having no one to talk to. Yeah I think that's like always the best piece of advice I could give people is like reach out like to someone. I mean just even talking about it even if it's a hotline even something like sometimes just talking or like letting it out like helps. And I was really afraid to call those hotlines because like oh my god like I don't want them to like trace my number and show up with an ambulance because I'm like it's it's not at that point but I just needed to talk to somebody and like if you communicate that like they will understand and that like you can call

Starting point is 01:51:13 for like even the most minor thing like if it's if you're if you get triggered by something like you can talk to somebody and how would you find the hotlines back then um you just I think if you just Google like oh yeah hotline it's like the first result I'll like put it on screen and stuff. Yeah back then we didn't have I didn't have Google or anything so I was like I remember being like so try to find where to get help and stuff like that and it was like I'm a regular call night one one a couple times cuz I was just like I need someone to talk to and But back then they would yeah, they'd bring like an ambulance to your house cuz they yeah, but it's good now we are with all the hotline work and stuff.

Starting point is 01:51:45 It's amazing. Well, I'm glad I helped you. It's cool to meet someone that like, and also you're just so well adjusted now. All that stuff, I would have no idea about you. I kind of like, I was talking about this on my stream two days ago as I'm drawing a little boo-boo holding a knife and I'm like trauma dumping. I'm like, yeah, I would rather relive like a day during like my child abuse versus like a day in 2018 where like it was all in my brain because at least like with that it was like external I

Starting point is 01:52:12 could like leave the house I was like crazy but like yeah because like your brain is yeah you're like a prisoner and yeah yeah it's like I'd rather like the problem is external and I can just like lock my door and like play video games. Yes. Like as horrible as that was and like caused the eventual like kind of like mental breakdown that I had. I'd much rather that than live a day in my mind. But oh when you were mentioning journaling, I used to journal every day too and I like I filled out an entire like 300 page journal in a month one time. Wow. It was like really crazy and like I have not I had not needed to journal in a few years because things have been good and

Starting point is 01:52:54 if I like need to talk to some someone I talked to my boyfriend about stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah I don't know if I could ever I like thought about burning them because I just like I don't know I think it's important to keep them. It's important. I mean even just finding when the garage literally yesterday I was just like Not only was like so many emotions came back But like I was just so grateful for him and now I was like, oh my god I was like really sad like literally I was like I will give anything to find love I'll give anything that's so it's like kind of those reminders of like how far you've come because yeah

Starting point is 01:53:20 I can happen still when you're happy like depression. Yeah, so when that happens I try to reread that stuff for me to be like, oh, look how far you've come. Because it's not easy surviving. I always tell people that too. It's like, just surviving in this world, a day to day is a struggle. And if you can make it through the day,

Starting point is 01:53:37 that's a big accomplishment. It's one of my favorite things that Mean Greets do is people have great jobs. They're lawyers, or they're going to school, or they're medical. But I also love the people who are like just trying to live life, just trying to survive. I came to this show to like help me like, you know, feel happy for a day. So I was like,

Starting point is 01:53:51 that makes me proud too when people can just like make it through the day. Cause that's making it through a day, especially when you're going through it. Yeah. That's a victory in itself. Cause it's hard. Like I used to, I used to sleep like all day. I would like just like barely eat. So I was just tired. Yeah. And I started having anxiety attacks in my sleep. And that was when I was like, okay, I need to talk like all day. Like I would like just like barely eat. So I was just tired. And I started having anxiety attacks in my sleep. And that was when I was like, okay, I need to talk to a therapist.

Starting point is 01:54:09 Like started anti-anxiety medication and stuff like that. And that helped me a lot. Yeah. Really helped me out. Yeah. Medication can be wonderful. And talking to someone can be wonderful. I did not know that. You're so bubbly and like light hearted. Like you would never have any clue.

Starting point is 01:54:23 And now being with Dallas, you probably just like feel a sense of security that you have that you didn't have as a child. Absolutely. Which heals, can heal so much. They always say people like a relationship can't heal you, but sometimes it can help because I just wanted stability and so like having like a stable relationship I feel really has like at least helped me mentally be like, okay, okay. Yeah, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:54:42 And I'm also like, you know, it sucks to have gone through that. If I could change it, I probably would. Of course.. And I'm also like, you know, it sucks to have gone through that. If I could change it, I probably would. Of course, of course. Just cause it's like, it's just, it sucks. Abuse, yeah. But, you know, it really helped me like, learn how the world works very young and kind of like develop a sense of self

Starting point is 01:54:59 and like what I want in life very young. So I kind of didn't like have a sort of like quarter life crisis at 25, like a lot of people do. Because I kind of just been through a lot of the worst that could happen. So it kind of just made me. You went through it so young too.

Starting point is 01:55:14 And losing a parent at 11, where you also remember, I think it's awful when they're really young and can't remember it. But remembering all that too is like, I cannot even imagine that at all. all. So yeah, it was weird It was really weird. I like like I had to go to school for this like class Christmas party and like Everyone's kind of like looking at me because they all know cuz like it's a very close knit

Starting point is 01:55:36 Neighborhood all the parents tell each other So everybody's kind of like looking and like not sure what to say my teacher she passed away a few years ago, but we had her for like four years in a row. And her grandson was my class. She was so cool, like hard teacher, but like she taught you good stuff. She was a really cool woman.

Starting point is 01:55:55 She taught my dad. Like it was crazy. So, and like, yeah, she offered to like drive anyone from my class to the funeral and wake. And yeah, and it was really cool seeing how many people like my mom connected with. Yeah. Because like we had like five wakes and each time the line was like down the block. Wow. People she knew from childhood, people who she worked with.

Starting point is 01:56:17 But it was a lot of people. Yeah. Really. So like when I really reflect on that now as an adult, I'm like, wow, that's so cool. Oh, people she impacted. Yeah, yeah. But what are you going to say? You said it sucks. It just sucks. Like as an adult, like you you definitely there's new things that develop that you're like, oh, that's sad. Like when I'm with Dallas's family and I'm with his mom and I get to see like the friendship he has with her now that they're both adults, like, yeah, it's sad I don't have that. So like it does. it doesn't get easier.

Starting point is 01:56:47 It doesn't get better, but it does get easier, I think is what it is. Like you just kind of process it differently, compartmentalize and there are some things that like trigger me, but I, you know. You can recognize it. Yeah, yeah. And like kind of get a handle on it.

Starting point is 01:57:01 I don't know anything about grief. Like that is one thing that I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't know how people navigate it Like that is one thing that I'm like, oh, I don't I don't I don't know how people navigate it. Yeah, it's very weird. It's a very weird feeling especially so young but yeah Um, yeah mother's day sometimes falls on my birthday Oh, that's right I'm like bro. Yeah, I know those kind of days. that's that's really hard yeah imagine yeah but you know somehow like I you know I still love like Christmas time and everything like I know I never let that like cloud it

Starting point is 01:57:32 because like we found ways to make it cute and honor yeah yeah I think one of the like the Gaga night I think is on her birthday, which is pretty cool I'm like yeah, game about it all the time every time I think about it. I'm like, yeah. Thank you for that Well, Japan's next I'll make a travel playlist of all the things we want to do. Oh my god. It's gonna be so fun Oh my gosh. Well, thanks for sharing all that. Thank you for letting me know I hate that I feel like I kind of brought down the mood a little bit. No, no, no, no, no. First of all, I love talking. I love when people talk about that stuff. I think it's like good. It's helpful for people who listen to, um, you could do a whole, I mean, yeah, I mean people, I have so many

Starting point is 01:58:16 questions because there's so much like advice from people who've gone through that stuff that I'm like, what's your advice? How do you pivot? How do you, how do you keep living through something like that? You know, There's just like an endless, I'm very curious about all that. I think it's so, and that you talk about it. It's hard. I don't know. There's so many things that I don't want to talk about.

Starting point is 01:58:34 I'm supposed to step here and stuff, where I'm just like, I could just talk about it so much, but also it's like- I didn't talk about it when it was happening ever, because it was just like, it was too much. But now that it's over, and my dad and I have really reconciled about it like in the last few years and so like I'm definitely I feel like I've

Starting point is 01:58:48 been able to move on from that part of my life but it was crazy it was really crazy oh my gosh I can't yeah can't even fathom can't even imagine I know I know how do we even Jojo Siwa You always need a palate cleanser. Oh my God. Timothy Chalamet has a new cat. You know this guy? I know Timothy. It's a Scottish folded ear. Oh yeah, its ears are folded in.

Starting point is 01:59:15 And what's the... Are people liking this cat? Timothy Chalamet? Yeah, he has a new cat. I love that. Club Chalamet over here. No, I've only seen Call Me By Your Name, which I don't think is has aged very well. But we really why I haven't seen it. It's Army Hammers in it for one. It's kind of a weird age gap relationship between him and the Chame.

Starting point is 01:59:40 Yeah, he's like Timothy Chalamet characters like 17 and it's like. Are they in a relationship? Yeah, he's like, Timothée Chalamet's character's like 17 and it's like- Are they in a relationship? Yeah. They're both straight? They're both straight in real life, yeah. But they play, what do you feel about that? I always ask everyone this question. Oh, I hate it.

Starting point is 01:59:53 I hate it so much. Okay, thank you. It really bothers me. Okay. And I feel like, I totally understand the argument of like, they're just actors, do you want Stanley Tucci to be out of a job? Like, I- Stanley Tucci to be out of a job? Like, like I-

Starting point is 02:00:05 Stanley Tucci's fine. Get that. But it's like, okay, but when there are gay actors that get denied roles, because they're too gay to play the gay, like it, it's such a complex issue that it's like, it just doesn't feel like authentic representation. And when there are, you talked about Matt Bomer

Starting point is 02:00:25 yeah losing out on Superman years ago even though he looks exactly like the comic books like it would have been perfect yes lost out on it because he got out it is gay like that is so frustrating like that is such a continuing issue in Hollywood and it's very annoying that straight guys continue to play gay roles. And like, they're like, on like one hand, like I, if they do a good job, and it's like a great performance, like it's fine, but it just like, it just sucks that it often feels like gay people aren't even in the room reading for the roles. Like it doesn't even like think it doesn't even cross their mind.

Starting point is 02:01:02 Like if it's between like John and Bailey and like Three other gay guys and like a straight guy and the straight guy just happens to really sell it better for this specific character Yeah, but I just feel like the gays are not even getting the calls. Yeah Or the authenticity. I didn't really realize like how big of it how big of a difference it makes like For instance like watching I love Brooklyn Mountain and I do love it Obviously, they're good actors and they won all these Oscars and it's great. But then when you watch something like fellow travelers and you just feel so much more knowing that the actors who played also have lived through the experiences and maybe it's different, obviously different eras, different times, but Matt Bomer not getting casted for Superman because

Starting point is 02:01:41 of that. And so him also playing this like closeted straight man on this fellow travelers, the authenticity feels, I don't know, it just feels much more real. Absolutely. And like you said, there are so many amazing gay actors. So it's like, why not give it to them? It makes me feel too, but so many, a lot of, and maybe they're just like trying to be open-minded about it, being like, you know,

Starting point is 02:02:00 open the roles for everyone, but I don't know. It's just like, anyone in a wheelchair too, it's like that should be played by someone in a wheelchair. Cause it's just like nowadays, those roles are hard to come by. So the actors exist. Like there are people that want to be actors and that is their life.

Starting point is 02:02:15 And this is a role that they can do accurately. Like, and they don't get those, they don't get the roles as much as there is like mainstream. Yeah, like straight roles and all that stuff. So it's like, that is, I think so. Yeah, it makes me, it makes me, because there's a new one with Paul Muskell and someone else too.

Starting point is 02:02:33 And it's just like. Roll my eyes. I'm like, whatever. So watch it in gif form on Twitter. Like, I don't. Right. It's just like. I'm just like, I'm not, I'm over it.

Starting point is 02:02:42 I'm over it. Yeah. Like, I'm sick of it. As people should be. It's like 25. It's like, hello, what are we doing? I definitely think I'm not I'm over it. I'm over it. Yeah, I'm sick of it as people should be it's like 25. It's like hello What are we doing? I definitely think I'm in the minority on that opinion for sure like I think you are too Cuz I I feel that way and I was like I was just like no whoever is the best actor But I was like I get that and like any other role But if there's like a very specific role and it's kind of like not to compare but it's gonna pair Yes, actually, I said snow in seven doors like a lot of the dwarf actors are like there's just like not a ton of roles For us like the fact that there's gonna compare, yes, actually. Like, so that's No Way in Seven Dwarfs. Like, a lot of the dwarf actors are like, there's just, like, not a ton of roles for

Starting point is 02:03:06 us. Like, the fact that there's this whole movie based on dwarf, you know, it's like, we would like to play that, you know? I know, and it's both, because then you have, you know, people like Peter Dinklage, like, no, we shouldn't do that. I don't know. It's just like, so you get both sides. It's a very, it's definitely a complex issue, especially for things outside of, like, the

Starting point is 02:03:24 sexuality aligning kind of role. Yeah. But I think that's like the beauty of people having different opinions and like getting to share like their perspectives on the issue. But it definitely should change because a lot of trans roles used to go to like cis women too, like Trans America, I think it was Felicity Huffman and I was just like... If you want like a cute gay movie set in Italy watch Luca by Pixar That is the best movies. They've ever made. I think it's so cute. It is such a queer allegory I am like kind of like it's obviously not super overt But like if you get it you get it like it's clear what it is

Starting point is 02:04:02 Such a beautiful which is what I kind of also beautiful about it, too It's kind of just like yeah, you just you feel this way about so that was one of the first movies We watched in this room was Luca loved it And there's actually one that is constantly being brought up in our heads for a movie poster because we love the movie poster It's like on water. The name is like really cute. Like it's definitely one we've heavily Considered it because that movie was oh my god when we watched it was like so good. I love that movie so much Yeah, Lucas, so good. That's okay. That is so interesting. Thanks you Bruno Also like Ponyo that is my boyfriend and I like one of our favorite movies

Starting point is 02:04:36 I mean, it's it's a legendary. Yeah. Yeah, so many studio Ghibli. I love some of my favorite I know I like the name too but it's a girl I guess yeah, but like Elvis is that's true a guy generally Yeah, I guess Ponyo, but you know sometimes in um like there's female and male versions So I didn't know if there was like a male vert. I guess doesn't matter whatever. Yeah neutral baby over here. Um Timmy's oh the cat I was like, what are we talking about? You like him or no? Yeah, I mean, I like him as much as any other celebrity.

Starting point is 02:05:09 I understand. Yeah, I know. But I do want to watch Dune and Dune 2. You've never seen? No. Don't watch them. What? Definitely the new ones. The old one is so different from the new one. It's a different world. I don't think it's our kind of movie. I don't think we're into the...

Starting point is 02:05:28 What are we into, Jimmy? What's the movie we love? Hurry up tomorrow. Did you see that one? No, 13 Going on 30. I saw that movie for the first time a few months ago and I was just like, how is everyone in this movie not an Academy Award winner? Oh, you loved it. It is one of the greatest movies of all time. Wow. Jennifer Garner. Yes. So many Jennifers out there, I know.

Starting point is 02:05:48 I know, I'm like going through the Rolodex in my head. Coolers, Loras, Lopez. Yeah, I always confuse her with Hilary Swank in my mind too. Okay, they give similar vibes, yes. Literally her being 30, but acting like she's 12 at the beginning of the movie and like her like physical comedy is like,

Starting point is 02:06:03 it's like a masterclass. She's incredible. It's such a good movie. I love that you just discovered it too. I've never seen it. I was just like, oh, does she think she's 30? No, she goes through time. It's such a good movie. I love those movies too. I do love a sci-fi. I watched Star Wars for the first time a few months ago and I really liked it. We just got to watch Mandalorian. Do you need so much more, like Star Wars you need to like the storyline, you need to like the whole saga, but Dune is just like its spaces, places, you know, it's like you can just enjoy being in this in the atmosphere that they created for the movie. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:06:40 You know we started, I think, I think, did you talk about, maybe not, maybe it was Oscar. You watched Overcompensating? No, it was Oscar. Yeah, it was Oscar. I've heard think did you talk about maybe not maybe it was Oscar you watched overcompensating No, there's Oscar. Yeah, I've heard of it though. It's kind of good. We started watching it Oh my posters for it near my apartment. Oh, I think you have to like start watching it was good. Yeah, Oscar Oh, I know Oscar told us about it, but I thought I thought you had said maybe it was someone else I was talking to you, but it's so good I Follow I'm Oomfies with Benito Skinner. That's cool. Yeah, and I was like

Starting point is 02:07:05 He said he was like trying to get on my show in Chicago. I was like, oh my I love it so much It's that's another really good one. Kyle McLaughlin who's in doom. That's what movie that one is like. Do you love him? Thank you I only know him from I know him from he was in a Marvel show called agents of shield and he played like one character is like long lost father Very good in it though. He was very good pops up everywhere But I know he's a he's in Twin Peaks, which I have not seen but I need to watch cuz I love Twin Peaks is Very good X-Files I love X-Files. Oh, yeah, it's gives the same vibes. Yeah. Yeah

Starting point is 02:07:42 Did you come out the same time or no? I guess X-Files was later. Yeah, I mean they're very different. But yeah, it's the same. When I was a kid I watched X-Files and Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks is good. Before probably. Did you do Desperate Housewives? Have you ever seen it? No, I haven't. There's so many things I just haven't seen. Desperate Housewives and Lost are like two shows I tell everyone like you have to watch. Lost by Hatch. You like it? I like the first three seasons and then it kind of fell off. It loses the plot for sure. We're like, what the hell is going on? But I loved Lost Johnlock as one of my favorite characters.

Starting point is 02:08:10 Mine too! When I started it, I started getting clips of you as him on my TikTok feed. Oh, is that when you started watching it? No, no, no. I started watching it like, oh my God, it took us like a whole year to get through it. My friends and I, we watched on Discord. We had like a Monday movie day or like what year though? We started twenty twenty four, I think.

Starting point is 02:08:30 Oh, so really? Yeah. So that's what you're saying. Like clips of old clips would come up. And I was just like, oh my God, like, have you seen my lost podcast? No, I should watch it now that I finished the show. I did a lot like we tried everything before this podcast. Moses would build me different sets and he built me a lost podcast upstairs and I had all the cardboard cutouts of all the lost characters behind me and I would cosplay each week as someone new So john, i've seen the maternity photos of you as hurley hurley and syed I love syed i'm obsessed to this day. He's like one of the top three characters for sure

Starting point is 02:09:00 Oh so good. We're watching a show He's in on like amazon prime called like pradeep's of pittsburgh that like no a new show? Yeah kind of like in the past year. That's cool he's still acting. Because I don't think I've seen anyone from Lost besides Evangeline, Lily in anything. She was an Ant-Man. Oh right right right. Kate. Naveen Andrews who played Said he was also in the dropout on Hulu did you see that one? No I have not seen one? With Elizabeth Holmes and it was made of Seyfried. No? Oh, I know the story though. Yeah, made of Seyfried.

Starting point is 02:09:28 The drop of the blood and... You never watched the dropout? No. Okay, can I tell you, that's why I started watching Lost because I saw him on that show and I was like, that guy's fine. Like he played her boyfriend. Literally, my entire group of gays and they's,

Starting point is 02:09:41 we would all just be like, he's in a tank top again. Yeah, I was salivating. Well this, he filmed the dropout in like 2023 so he's like older and they gave him like a belly but I still thought he was so sexy. That's hot to me. So hot. He's dating a man of Seyfried in the show so like she's into him. So I was like god this guy is so hot.

Starting point is 02:09:57 So I started watching, he was in Once Upon a Time in Wonderland. He played Jafar I think. Did you ever get into those? Once Upon a Time? No but I would see the commercial breaks when I was watching the Marvel show that Colin McLaughlin was in. Okay, so go and watch it.

Starting point is 02:10:09 I do know that it's like Vampire Diaries version of Disney. Yes. Like it's very just campy, over dramatic. You would love it too. I love, no, he knows, Naveen Andrews is like my dream guest. We even watched The Cleaning Lady. The Cleaning Lady season two, he's the villain. Did you skip two seasons too?

Starting point is 02:10:24 Oh yeah, there's like a new season, don't care, he died in the second season, don't care. They need to put him on Severance so you actually watch, because I love Severance. Oh you love Severance? Yes, I was going through it, I was like, I was saved from spoilers from this because Trish hates it. And SpillSets comes on, it's just like, oh my god, and then this scene, I was like, no! Oh yeah, she loved it, Tiana loved it. Most of all, my whole TikTok was Severance at the was like, no, she loved it. I loved it. My whole tick tock was severance at the time.

Starting point is 02:10:49 Yeah, it sounds horrible. The more spoilers I love a spoiler. I want to usually watch a show based on this book. Most of them like this sounds not good. You can't really describe it. You can't describe it. It's hard to describe. There's a gay storyline. And it's too. Oh, and you do like him. Who's the gay story? My God. What's his name? He's so famous the tour

Starting point is 02:11:07 Oh my god. I gotta look him up. Oh my god. No, he's a Yeah, he's gay he's gay and Like that's why that's a hypocrisy that's that's not I eat my own words because I'm just like oh my god So cute like I love him I'm trying to think of the reasons of soaping. I'm just gonna what I'm you guys are selling me on it now I love John Toro. He's surprised. He's no one brought up the gays to you cuz I'm like that no one did He's an amazing Christopher Walker. Yeah Yeah, okay, those are two straights we allow we're like you can't be like I guess kind of spoiling I'm like that will get her into it. He's an amazing actor. Christopher Walken. Yeah. They're gay together?

Starting point is 02:11:45 Yeah. Okay, those are two straights we allow. We're like, you can be in it. I guess kind of spoilers, but it's like a B plot. So it's like, it's not, it doesn't really ruin the twist, but like they don't know each other in outside, but inside their person, their severed halves meet each other and they fall in love,

Starting point is 02:12:02 but they don't know each other outside. So like, they don't even know they're in like a little like love moment. Oh my god that's kind of cute. Christopher Walken has a relationship outside. He's married. No with a man. But yeah. He's gay inside and out. I love that. They didn't change that. They're not like you're only gay? Okay. Yeah, I love that. If you're not closeted at work, like you're like, you have to be, you have to break. Once you're out, you forget. They don't know homophobia. All they know is the office. All they know is Lumen. It only works if it was closeted in real life. But then at work, it's actually- He could be the gay version of- Because he doesn't even know. Although I will say people try to get me with like Last of Us. I skipped just what episode 4, season 1, where it was Murray Bartlett being gay with Nick Offerman, I think it was.

Starting point is 02:12:49 And I thought that was gonna get me because Murray Bartlett is my fave. I love him. Have you seen Looking? No, what's that? It's kind of an old show. I don't know how well like some of the storylines hold up, but uh- Is he young in it? It's- he's like in- I don't know how old he is, but it's like from 10 years ago, at least. Okay. It was an HBO show called Looking. Daniel Francais from Mean Girls is in it. Jonathan Groff. From 10 years ago? Yeah. Oh my God. I guess it's around the Gleera for him. Yeah. And it's about a couple of gay guys in San Francisco and their life has like two seasons. And

Starting point is 02:13:23 yeah, I loved it years ago I haven't watched it in a long time so I don't I can't like vouch for how well maybe some of the storylines hold up but yeah but still overall it's like it's a cute show and Murray Bartlett's in it and he's amazing and he is friends with a woman older woman same like age as him and she's just like a straight woman that hangs out with the gays and I Female character and gays cuz she's so down to just party I need to watch this I love I obviously white lotus. I loved him, but I loved him in Chippendales, too Did you watch that series? It was so good to guess two seasons in a movie

Starting point is 02:14:04 Looking good done and done, but the last of us I couldn't get into. I was like, God, I really love these two actors and I just kind of... I played a little bit of the first video game, but I didn't finish it. I liked it though. Too violent. So I was like, well, I don't want to watch the show because I want to play the game. And then I could see how the show was different. And then I just never got into either.

Starting point is 02:14:20 But my boyfriend played the first one recently. Last of us. I can't get into it. I, yeah, I don't know. I know everyone loves loves it but I guess again not the target audience right here. Yeah. Did you see Pedro Pascal called himself a old lazy 50 year old? Did you see that clip of him in the movie theater? Yes I did. I was not not on the Pedro train but recently that like press junket he was doing where he had like the sleeveless and he's just like like it like being just like I get it I get it too now I was kind of I was kind of off I was on the hate train I think for him the only one that was on there I was like I'm overseeing him too much by the Pascal but he is gorge and he's just funny and cutesy and every little clip

Starting point is 02:14:58 you see of him like he's just like in a regular movie theater like an AMC just like walking up the stairs and someone with James Marsden in that clip I didn't recognize casually even notice James Marsden next to I only knew it was him from the captions saying it was James Marsden and they were just a random what movie were they seeing like their movie was their movie listed I love him he has a dream guest for sure that'd be great mmm um we have like a two I want there's two more I want to touch on. Did you see you keep a bit longer too? Okay. Yeah, we have time.

Starting point is 02:15:28 Do you keep up on Justin Baldoni? I did have that written down, but I wasn't sure if people were like kind of over that topic. I think Oscar's over the topic because he's so and it's like I'm so in it and I don't like to bring it up because I know like it's like if I don't like talking about something I don't want to bring it up because I know like it's like if I don't like talking about something I don't want to bring it up. You know what I mean? But um Did you see that the so I didn't know about all this Taylor Swift was supposed to be yeah subpoenaed. Yeah, so I

Starting point is 02:15:55 My only frame of reference for this entire case is this podcast as is Like I didn't know it was Remy and Alicia. I thought it was Remy and Alicia. Oh, that was one name! Like, I know it was one person. Which, oh my god, is that Remy Ashton? Yes, Mr. Remy Ashton. Yeah. Back to La Boo Boo, Oscar sent me her bridal party. She gave everyone in the bridal party a La Boo Boo bouquet. And I was just like, I don't know you, but can I be in the wedding?

Starting point is 02:16:26 She's the original La boo boo queen. She started the trend. She's been on it for so long. Ms. Ramiashin is my everything. I hate that she has a podcast with Zayn and Heath, but everything else I love about her, she's getting married, she's beautiful. She's just, everything about her is beautiful. I love her so much and she was the original La boo boo queen.

Starting point is 02:16:42 Is she dominoes? 11 domino sponsorship. The la boo boo is my dominoes 11 Domino sponsorship She's everything we want she's our everything we want to be is this reaction I love her I think she getting married soon. She had her bridal shower So I think she's getting married soon, but no but see my information comes from spill sash I watch like all the spill such videos about it That's why we were always surprised the Oscar never brought it up because he loves Taylor Swift.

Starting point is 02:17:05 But I mean, maybe because he loves her too much, he doesn't wanna like get met. I get it. Like, you know, you don't want to comment too much about someone's personal life. But it was so interesting, because Moses, even outside the podcast, Moses would bring up this Taylor Swift thing.

Starting point is 02:17:17 And I was like, what are you talking about? No one's talking about this. But that's all I see now is on TikTok is people talking about, yeah, Taylor's switch was supposed to be Sabina. And I guess Blake Lively, all of us alleged, of course, was like mad that she didn't like defend her and like stick up for her. But I guess

Starting point is 02:17:31 it's been dropped now that she or Justin Baldoni dropped the subpoena. Oh, really? Right. That's what I had heard that she's like no longer to begin with everything that we heard was a conversations between the lawyers. So one lawyer asked from the other. So like, so one lawyer was the one that said that basically from the text messages, like that the request was that she will support Blake Lively and if she doesn't support Blake Lively,

Starting point is 02:17:57 Blake will release 10 years of text messages that they have between them, stuff like that. I wanna know that. So, but I would say like, maybe it's the lawyer, maybe that's how he talks. You know, maybe the lawyer is just like, you know, she has that we will release, we'll do like, we don't know. Yeah. So it's not words coming out of her mouth, but it's definitely her lawyer.

Starting point is 02:18:16 Yeah. This is on paper. You know, I guess how is Taylor's which involves she was just like, she wasn't on the set, right? She was just at the house that day. There's like a that's me allegation that when Justin Baldoni like went to meet with Blake she had Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift in the room when they were like casting or like pitching the movie or they were talking about storylines yeah they were talking about the story and the

Starting point is 02:18:41 changes she wanted to make to the script at the time. But why was she subpoenaed into this case? And our resident Taylor Swift fan, I was like, well, I don't know, I don't want to trigger. The week could not be here. Yeah, I was like, wait, but it's been happening for weeks, but because he has a problem, I was like, well, I don't want to bring it up. She had some influence because for example,

Starting point is 02:18:56 I think the person making the music that Blake Lively brought in, she got it from Taylor Swift. Oh, okay. There were specific things, there were people fired, people hired, and the people hired were from Taylor Swift. There were specific things, there were people fired, people hired, and the people hired were from Taylor Swift team. So there was some overlap, and Taylor was used as a leverage point against Justin.

Starting point is 02:19:15 And sometimes if you just wanna get, like I said, text messages, emails, any correspondence, then you do that. So I don't know, I mean, and it could be that Justin was just, you know, they were smart then you do that. So I don't know. I mean, and it could be that Justin was just, you know, they were smart to kind of pinch her at a place that it hurts, you know, because they know she doesn't want that to happen. Do you have a side just from the podcast knowledge? You don't have to.

Starting point is 02:19:40 I really don't. I think that's like, it sounds like a cop out answer, but like, I really don't I think that's like I it's it sounds like a cop-out answer, but like I really don't you know yeah, cuz like that footage that came out of the two of them talking like Again, that's like one moment who knows what else could have happened. Yeah, but it didn't really seem like it Benefited either of their cases. It just kind of seemed like two people work together Yeah talking like I kind of it just kinda seemed like two people work together talking. Like I kinda, it just, I feel like both of their experiences are probably valid because they lived them. But you know, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Starting point is 02:20:14 And it changes so much. We talked about it so much. I was so invested, cause again, I watched a lot of school sessions, I was so invested and it's like, God, like when it first came out before Christmas last year, you're just like, oh my God, like Justin Baldoni's done. And then the other show comes up and you're like,

Starting point is 02:20:28 oh my God, Blake is like the worst. Like it really is so much back and forth where it is. And I see it and I'm still like really invested in it, but I too get my knowledge like based on like TikToks and scrolling. I see these like, you know, people read like whole documents, like the whole court documents people are reading. I try, I consider myself a very good reader.

Starting point is 02:20:45 I feel like I can comprehend things, but those documents I cannot comprehend at all. And I'm always like, so I hear everything like kind of side hand too, but I'm so curious cause I hear this stuff about Taylor Swift and I hear all this stuff and I'm like, is it gonna be, cause it applied me in New York, the trial is gonna be like the ditty

Starting point is 02:20:57 where it's like not televised. And it's just like people inside. I would like to be inside. I wanna be one of the reporters there to be like. Well, it depends if it's, I think it also depends if it's federal court or not. because I think DD is federal. That's what I heard. You don't think this one is federal? Probably not. Probably not. Isn't it federal when it takes place over multiple states? So if they filmed if some of it was in LA some of it was in New York

Starting point is 02:21:20 It might be I think that's what happened. Also I think it's the that and the level of crimes and here we're not really talking about crimes. It's like a civil dispute. So it could be. I have no college degree and I'm like yeah. You're so smart. You really are so smart. I'm actually so impressed. Like the way you were taking the things all the knowledge you have about something. Even the Lilo and Stitch at the beginning I was like oh my god there's a whole dissertation about Lilo and Stitch. I'm a little chronically online. I think that's really all it is. Which is perfect. Which is why I was wonderful. I know I was like it was is which is perfect Which is why I was wonderful I know I was like it was so funny cuz like I had known a while that Oscar was gonna be here today And my default is always my sister and obviously let's process too

Starting point is 02:21:51 But I was like we should Jimmy cuz like so many comments are about you and here I was thinking like even if we don't have hot topics whatever we can just talk but you're like so knowledgeable about literally everything It's crazy because I feel like I was like, okay I have the time when I'm looking up like b-roll for the podcast I'm like, I really hope this is the right person because I've never heard of Alex Earl in my life I thought she was her daddy. I like Alex Earl Alex Cooper like they do those two I do get mixed up a lot. Yeah, I'm like, you know, they're killing it But I just I don't really follow

Starting point is 02:22:25 No And like, you know, they're killing it, but I just, I don't really follow that. You never heard of them. No. Alex Earl. Alex Earl just was announced as the second celebrity on Dancing with the Stars this past week, which- And you will be the third, so. I don't know. I think as soon as I heard that,

Starting point is 02:22:33 I was like, I think my chances are out the window because social media, they usually have one social media person on, obviously can't compete with Alex Earl, dancing or followers. And Ezra commented, like, can't wait to see you in the ballroom. And I was like, the only one I wanna be with is Ezra.

Starting point is 02:22:48 So have a feeling they'll probably be together. So I was like, sorry, Dancing with the Stars. If you come to me, I have to say no at this point because if Ezra's gone, then I can't. I don't want Gleb. The girl who was with Gleb last season, I know you're probably not, are you a Dance with Stars person?

Starting point is 02:23:00 No. I literally, again, only know the name Ezra because of this podcast. Wait, really? Ezra is icon. But Gleb, anyways, he's kind of known for just always having a romance with all his partners. And the last girl he had a romance with apparently now

Starting point is 02:23:15 is lesbian, I think I just read. I think this morning, yeah, I think she's like, I'm dating women now. But I do not wanna be partners with anyone straight. But what if they just have more gay dancers? You know, I'm always surprised, like Latin ballroom dancing or ballroom dancing doesn't have more gay men.

Starting point is 02:23:33 How come it's all straight men in there? That's a good question, because like so many just dancers in general are gay men. I had a rehearsal yesterday for Pride, and we have all six of my dancers and they're all just, they're just so gorgeous. It's so crazy, like I did have, I wanna say a phase, but I was definitely only attracted to gay men

Starting point is 02:23:54 for a very long time in my life, which is like a problem because obviously- It's not fair to them. I can think of one problem. It was so, I don't know how to explain it. Like I was only attracted to gay men. Like, and obviously it's a problem both ways. It's a problem for me, because it's not fair to me,

Starting point is 02:24:09 but it's also a problem for them. Cause there was a lot of gay guys that I think felt bad for me and like wanted to maybe like would date me cause they felt bad or they thought maybe, I don't know. Like maybe they thought they were bi. And then I kind of felt bad because then it's like, they're not getting to live their true self because they're like dating me.

Starting point is 02:24:22 It was just a whole thing. Anyways, but then yes, Jay, yeah, I had my first Pride rehearsal and all these guys are just so gorgeous. And I remember leaving even, I like even dressed cute. Normally I do not dress cute. I wore big t-shirts and I'm like, let me dress cute. And I'm so excited.

Starting point is 02:24:36 I'm like, oh, I was like, have fun. I was like, I'm just gonna have so much fun. He's like, not too much fun. And I was like, I just, I don't know. I just, it brought me back to my we-ho days in 2016 where I'd go out and I'd just see all these like gorgeous and gay men are so nice. Well, at least to me, I know there's like gay on gay like hate and stuff like that.

Starting point is 02:24:51 But to me, all the gay men were so nice. And I was just like, God, I, and then that's how it was yesterday. We just had this like full on key dancing, but also like talking about everything from like, you know, Britney Spears to like, you know, what carbs we eat. And honestly, all these guys are ripped now and they're saying white rice is better than brown rice for you. Oh really? Yes because I hate brown rice. I didn't know there was a

Starting point is 02:25:11 difference really. I thought it was just they just bleached the white rice or I don't know. But I know brown rice is always the healthy thing like in showgirls it was like brown rice and vegetables like that's what you would eat. Brown rice is always the healthy substitute but they're like no they're like white rice is better for you and I was like brown rice and vegetables like that's what you would eat brown rice was always the healthy substitute but They're like no they're like white rice is better for you And I was like okay, so I or steamed as they call it So that made me feel so happy because they're all ripped like no steamed rice is good for you as like perfect I'm gonna start eating it, but it really just brought me back to my days I just like yeah, just being surrounded by all just gaming. I love gaming of all types obviously, but like

Starting point is 02:25:43 There's something about the dancer community that I'm just like I love gay men of all types, obviously, but there's something about the dancer community that I'm just like, I love you guys. I think it's also when they dance, especially for Pride, we're doing a lot of freaky, you know what I mean? Whole body gyrating. Yeah, they just- They get it. They get it. There's a movement of the hips Yes a gay man is familiar And you just and then when you're watching the performance you're like, oh my god, this is everything

Starting point is 02:26:13 It's a sissy swag Then you cut and it's just like that talking literally about like little boo-boos like one had like this Obsession I love this so much. That's what I've missed in love And I don't even know how we got on that topic. Oh, Dancing with the Stars. And I was just like, how come there's just not more on Dancing with the Stars? You know what I mean? Cause that's all my dance videos were always with, with them Jordi, which I guess queer will just use it.

Starting point is 02:26:34 Cause we don't know if they're really 100% gay, but and I just loved it so much. Cedric is like my favorite person in the whole world. And I don't know, anyways, shout out Cedric who watches the podcast. He will be on tour all weekend. And then he comes home and watches the podcast on Tuesday. He's like, and he always will show me

Starting point is 02:26:46 like watching the whole thing and eating his sushi. He's like, you're not gonna get sick of me. He's like, no, I could listen to your voice all day long and I love him for it. But yeah, I don't think Dancing Stars is gonna be for me because now Alex, you're a lot, but it's good for her. She's gonna crush it. She said she was a dancer back in the day

Starting point is 02:26:59 and I was like, honestly, she's gonna crush it. We just had Gabby Wendy on the podcast and she said she lost to Charlie DeMille. Ooh, it's good. Well, there's a little, you can't see it on the camera, but there's a little spoiler that she gave me a little gift. Yeah, love her so much.

Starting point is 02:27:12 But she came in second on Dancing with the Stars and lost to Charlie DeMille. And I was like, oh man. It's like when you go against like a social media person, it's like, Charlie is obviously a great dancer on Broadway, but it's also not fair because like they have so many followers. Like she had a hundred million followers like how you compete with that

Starting point is 02:27:26 So I feel that way with Alex girl, too Although she is going up against Robert Irwin who is also very loved so it's gonna be a stacked season How did Jojo do on dance with the stars? Did she win? Did she win? I think she might have won I feel like that is do you have a Jojo hot topic? I love a little Jojo I do have a Jojo not hot topic. Yes, I do. I think she did win. Siwa, Dancing with the Stars. Let's see. Yeah, she kind of crushes it on reality shows. She was the first same-sex couple.

Starting point is 02:27:53 Yeah. She came second. To who? Who did she lose to? Let's see. That's what I'm always curious. Who did they lose to? Dancing with the Stars, 30. Spoiler alert. From 10 years ago. The winner was Iman Shumpert.

Starting point is 02:28:06 I don't know who Iman Shumpert is. I don't know either but he's wearing a very not love line coated jacket. Oh, leopard jacket. Okay. Very cute. Maybe come on out. I love when someone wears leopard. I'm like, you want to come on? They should make leopard laboum.

Starting point is 02:28:22 That should be their next set. I would die. You love animal print? I think they're cute, yeah. Okay, I love that. A lot of people don't like leopard. When I first met Moses, he didn't like leopard. He was like, I don't love leopard. But that's why I love not love lying, because I can release all my leopard on there.

Starting point is 02:28:34 It's leopard on leopard on leopard. It's crazy. I keep buying more leopard. It's visually so crazy. But I love it. The leopard's never matching. It's just, also the background doesn't really match leopard vibes. They fully call it leopard and it's like tiger too.

Starting point is 02:28:49 I'm like, close! Close animal print! Close enough, you know what I mean? What's the JoJo News? JoJo Hot Topics. So, her and Chris Hughes continue to be... Kissing! Her and Chris Hughes continue to be in love, performing love and kissing. Performing love? What does that mean, performing love?

Starting point is 02:29:12 If they are pretending to date for clout. Because JoJo, she's very Trishian in that way. She's very of your playbook. I definitely don I definitely don't doubt that like her sexuality fluidity is real. And I think she definitely has a close friendship with this guy. But you know, for a while I thought like maybe you know Jojo she likes to she likes to get people talking. Like it could be very much she just kind of you know stir in the pot a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, there's a paparazzi photo of them kissing in the pool. Yeah. It was pretty steamy. It wasn't just like a pet.

Starting point is 02:29:51 Yeah. Did you see them at the airport? They were also kissing there. Really? Yeah, they were kissing. But the airport is more than just like, they're just, they look like a couple in love. In love, like, you know, the puppy love at the beginning.

Starting point is 02:30:03 Yeah. They're just like at any angle, at any corner, they're just, the puppy love at the beginning. Yeah, there's just like any angle on any corner. It was just hugging and there's a post they both they both posted photo dumps with each other in them. And it's giving very like soft hard launch, really hard launch of a couple. There's a picture of the two of them with their knees together. And it's like just their knees and like he has his hand on like her inner thigh I'm pretty sure it's his hand and it's just like I think it's real I think that's what I think it's real too I like real for one of them I don't

Starting point is 02:30:37 know which one like I maybe maybe both and I would love to see both but I know when I've been in relationships it's always like one-sided becomes is real for one and maybe not because sometimes you enter these things too And I know this from like again experience Like sometimes you understand thinking like good publicity people want to see this You know what I mean? And then sometimes someone catches feelings. So, I don't know There's been other ones too where I've just been like, okay for it. Let's do a little romance Whatever and then yeah, I go like catch and then it feels real then you like don't know how to get out So I'm more worried about Jojo being the young one in this situation who's 32?

Starting point is 02:31:08 She's 22, which is that's another thing Gabby. I told me cuz I didn't know she knew him from whatever show his own Love love I'll something like that. I know the age gap. Yeah, that's a Little scary at that age cuz again young girl and Jojo being so young and being so young and being you know She likes to be around older people which Necessarily isn't like so bad, but I'm not implying anything like predatory. Yeah, it's just like It's just I don't understand like even my boyfriend and I were two years apart Yeah, and like he will reference things that I've not seen because he has two older sisters

Starting point is 02:31:42 So yeah, I can't imagine but like most of our stuff's in common I just can't imagine like what you can really have in common after the like honeymoon phase Well, kind of over cuz she's 21 right 22 22 So 22 we always have about this the frontal lobe developing at 25, but it's so true especially for females like that 18 to 25 really is just like such a like a Part and obviously Jojo being around younger older people, this has always been my thing. I love you Jojo. I always say this every podcast, I love her.

Starting point is 02:32:07 But also being around older people from an early age, from like 13, having older friends. Like it's so easy to like be caught up. Even if the person is, even if the older person is not the manipulator, right? If you're not purposely trying to manipulate, your feelings are just so, what is the word? Like, I don't want wanna say delusional,

Starting point is 02:32:25 but like I know when I was younger, like turbulent maybe? Turbulent, when I was like 22 dating someone 52, I know it's a little bit bigger age gap, I just remember you feel so things so much differently and so much more intensely and they're like not real. Yeah. Like the feelings. And then the other person maybe doesn't take

Starting point is 02:32:39 into consideration, they also think you're on that same level of like, oh, we're just hooking up or we're just, maybe with Chris it's like, oh, we're just a show man or whatever, but you're not It's like oh, we're just a showman so whatever but you're not quite there like yeah The 52 year old that I was dating was like oh, we're just like hooking up But in my mind he was like flying me out to Toronto in New York, and I was like oh we're gonna we're in a relationship We're getting married. You know so I just think to him. It's like it's just like a little thing Oh, yeah, what I like confronted him about like cheating. He's like what are you talking about like we were just talking about

Starting point is 02:33:02 I was like, but you were flying me places and you were thinking I love you I'm like, you know, like it just it's a different it's a warp sense when you're that age So plus her kind of entire life has been in front of a camera. So for him I Imagine he only started getting into show business if you can call it that I guess it's reality TV. Yeah Probably in his like late mid to late 20s, like he probably spent most of his life offline, I guess, I don't know his full history, but like for JoJo, like a show man,

Starting point is 02:33:32 how's that any different than real life? Everything she does is filmed, everything's just documented, so. That's what's so crazy about JoJo's life is like, not only does she do reality TV where you could shut, like a lot of people do shut off when they're not filming, but she's like vlogging too and has a podcast. So she's like never off.

Starting point is 02:33:47 And I do think she does play a character. I think she probably would admit, she's like a little bit of a troll. So it's like, oh, that fine line of like, what is a troll? Who am I? You know, who's JoJo? Who's JoJo Siwa the character? It's like such a, oh, I don't know.

Starting point is 02:34:00 I see it. I know I do, I think that's why I relate to her so much. Like I, not to like do my own homework, I do see like a young me, you know, when I look at her as a sex. Absolutely. I see it know I do I think this way I relate to her so much like a Not to like to my own home. I do see like a young me, you know when I look at her as it's absolutely You know, I see it Oscars said it before too. Yeah, it's very it's a very similar Trajectory definitely like not you know the same Footsteps. Yeah, but it's you know, it's the same the troll vibes. Yeah Yeah, the attention and I know you had to get the attention and it's a lover hate and some people do love her and then

Starting point is 02:34:24 Some people like have a lot to say about her and I's love or hate and some people do love her and then some people like Have a lot to say about her and I think in her mind say all attention like good attention Which like is how I thought too and it is to some degree I always think like if I didn't do my trolling, you know, it doesn't get you to like where you want to be I guess I don't know. It's so it's so hard. But also this is the first man she's with so it's like yeah There's so many different kinds of men and kind of like, she doesn't even know yet. So she has a lot of strong emotions just from feeling what it's like to be with a man for the first time. But then what it's like, maybe this is not, you know,

Starting point is 02:34:54 being analyzed too. So I think she's just going through a lot of new and exciting. And, and, yeah, I mean, to me, they look almost like two guys falling in love like there's something like she has actually to me the first time I see her more masculine when I thought with a man I would see her more feminine but to me she feels more masculine so it's really interesting so maybe she's still discovering some of that you know it's far as like you know what I mean like you've you're expensive that like you know like even if you're with a man, you can be as a man with a man in a woman's body.

Starting point is 02:35:30 Yeah. So that was interesting for me to see. But I don't know. I mean, they having fun, like fall, fall in love for big, you know, it's like a big, but she's been so in love. And then like all the heart breakups are so awful for everybody. Just don't think it's like the other side. It seems not to her. Yeah, I just don't know if it's like the best foundation for a relationship to start.

Starting point is 02:35:52 Like, no, like it, it kind of was cheating. Yeah, like with someone else. And I totally understand, like, especially if you like your, you're pan, you're fluid sexually, because my boyfriend is bisexual. And he dated a girl for five years or so before he came out and dated a different guy, and then he started dating me. And when we, like a year into dating, he said to me, he's like,

Starting point is 02:36:21 hey, I don't really know what I'm like truly interested in I don't want to string you along and like potentially hurt you because I don't know what I'm really into if I want to be with a guy or be with a girl and then like two or three days later he like was like wait a minute like no like I love what we, I only romantically am interested in men, but he is still bi, does buy women attractive. And like, I think it's important to find out that information about yourself and explore that.

Starting point is 02:36:58 It just sucks that she had to do it on a TV show. And like, it's not her choice, she can't control it, she feels, it's just like, it's unfortunate that it happened so publicly. It's so analyzed. She's so young still, and she was also in a relationship going into this prior. I know. And she can't communicate with this person, be like,

Starting point is 02:37:18 hey, I really want to explore this. Privately, yeah. I want to stop dating you, but then I don't want to lose out on this person. Because it's like and I think if she was a little bit older, she would just kind of like know that like and she just had a different upbringing that would like kind of be common sense to do that. But you know, she is she is so young and her upbringing is so warped

Starting point is 02:37:41 and different from other people. It sucks. So like on the one hand, like I definitely feel like you cheated. It is a foundation of cheating. Even if it was like very early on in your relationship, it wasn't super serious yet. It still is. But at the same time, I don't really like think that this is like a character defining moment for her. Yeah. Like that she is a procedural cheater character defining moment for her yeah she is a procedural cheater unless like more stuff ever comes out yeah I guess it's

Starting point is 02:38:09 the perception people have is like her ex-girlfriends all kind of like imply that but yeah I think in general having the public relationships is like not good for her right now like unless it is for a show which is entertaining and it gets people to talk but then it's just yeah from one public relationship to another because that's the problem, like you said, people go through this all the time, like sexuality questioning and stuff, but it's like privately done.

Starting point is 02:38:29 So you don't have all the scrutiny and you're not hurting someone. And it does suck, yeah. Dating someone who's like bisexual or fluid or doesn't quite know yet, it does hurt someone apparently at the end of the day. I mean, I've been on the receiving end of so many guys being like, I'm bisexual,

Starting point is 02:38:41 and they're like, actually I'm gay. And I'm like, oh no, like, you know what I mean? Cause it like hurts so bad, but obviously doing it privately is like so much easier than doing it publicly. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's, I don't know, I feel like she just needs to take a break

Starting point is 02:38:56 from love publicly, you know what I mean? Also privately maybe for a little bit. Just find yourself girl, 22. I always tell people, especially in the early 20s, I was so concerned with like being in love and finding the guy in my early 20s I was so obsessed with him. I missed out on life. I like didn't do casting calls auditions. I wouldn't go to jobs I would just like sit home like waiting for this person. It's like I just live your life at early 20s, you know Yeah, I feel like she must not know like maybe she doesn't feel like her relationships can be private because she shares so much. Well, yeah, I can relate to that too.

Starting point is 02:39:26 Sometimes you think like, this is my job. This is, and also you'd like to do it. Like you like sharing your love. So I do feel her on that way. It's just the consecutive back to back always will get people to judge you. And it's like, if you really don't want people judging your life, it's kind of,

Starting point is 02:39:41 even if you want to share it and blast it, it's just easier to keep it offline. Sometimes it's like, you know, it's like giving our kids and stuff like share and blast it, it's just easier to keep it offline sometimes. It's like, you know, it's even our kids and stuff like that. It's like sometimes I just like to keep things offline because whatever you post will open up for judgment. You know what I mean? It's like, and sometimes it's hard

Starting point is 02:39:54 because you just like, I just wanna share everything, but then. I don't think it's an option for her because this time it's not only a new relationship, it's like when your whole identity is being a lesbian, and you're gonna explore something completely new. She never gave it even a day of like, well, let me do some processing on my own

Starting point is 02:40:13 and then bring the news to the world of what I think about it. Everything was in front of our eyes. She didn't really have a choice though. She was in the Maybrother house. Yeah, but she has choices. Her action, she doesn't have a choice what she feels, but she has a choice in her actions.

Starting point is 02:40:25 And her actions were ones of like, I'm gonna show you exactly my process of like connecting to this man, being attracted to this man, and then forming a relationship with this man. Yeah. But so I don't think she even considers not sharing a second of her life.

Starting point is 02:40:42 I know, but I get it. I get it, sometimes you just wanna share everything, but sometimes holding a little back is good. But this was a huge thing for her life as far as that's a huge thing. And I have a lot of people are going to find comfort in the vulnerability. Like there are good parts to her doing this very publicly. A lot of people, maybe they are on the opposite end, maybe they are in hetero romantic relationships and they are like, wait, like, you can always think you're one thing and you're not. You are actually bi, you're queer, you're still only, like my boyfriend, only interested

Starting point is 02:41:18 in dating gay guys but like still has attraction. Like you will see a hot woman be like, that's a hot woman. Yeah. And while I'm like, she's so slay like yes the heels. Yeah totally different vibes. Like my idea of like a hot woman is just like I don't know like the diva energy. Right. Like any woman can be hot to me and she feels that way about herself. Oh I love that okay diva energy that's everything. No and I keep referencing the interview but again Gabby Wendy is coming up on Thursday and she like gives such a good insight to this because she also didn't know. Like she talks about how the first time she was like, maybe I'm getting it was like after the bachelor after the stuff works. I was like, where did that transition? And it's so interesting how like, yeah, and she kind of did the self reflection. She was at her parents' house anyways, I don't want to spoil it. But it is interesting, all that stuff. And yeah, doing it so publicly is like, but I get it. I totally get JoJo in that sense.

Starting point is 02:42:08 Not everyone gets it cause it is so niche, but I am someone too who wants to share every little thing. And in the long run can help, you know, sometimes you look back and you're like, man, I really was like a mess, but it's like, well, I guess in the long run you show a journey. So as long as she protects herself, you know what I mean? Her heart and others, yeah, cause it's all the situation, especially love.

Starting point is 02:42:27 I guess I wasn't in public relationships like her in my early 20s, but something public can be so hurtful too, but we love you JoJo. Should we go to the final hot topic? I was thinking Tana and Brooke, what did you have for you? Oh, but one small one. Oh, okay. Because you're little. We also have extended too to huh? Because what do you look like today?

Starting point is 02:42:49 Your hair you told me that the inspiration for your hair. Britney Spears? Yeah. Oh, I had that too. Britney Spears was on a plane private jet. And she lit a cigarette. Yes. She also says it was the first time she ever tried vodka on that flight as well. Love that. Diva energy. She buried that.

Starting point is 02:43:11 I love Brittany. Cut to her with a T-dose or something like that, a buzz ball. Didn't she have a buzz ball in her hand one time? A buzz ball will never end well. Yes, but I love her for that because also very me. Very like, this is my first time It's funny but obviously like just to tie into your look because this is your look for the day

Starting point is 02:43:31 Yeah, everyone was like, oh what's the point of a private? I kind of understand that too is like what I love how she also like blame someone else for lighting the cigarette being like Well, they lit it and put it in my hands. I thought it was okay Girl, love it. No accountability Queen also described because they contacted the authorities because can't do that, it's illegal to light a cigarette on a plane. Right. If you did not know, that's why they had the little sign that has no smoking on it. Yes. She described calling the authorities was kind of much.

Starting point is 02:43:56 Kind of much. Which is- I love that so much. She also thought they were there for her. She's like, wow, what a warm greeting. I love that too. That would be me for sure. Be like this is nice. I love her caption explaining all of it and then she's like oh okay this isn't for that. But I was still trying to understand the thing she was like me yesterday it's actually

Starting point is 02:44:16 incredibly funny some planes I've been on you can't smoke mostly but this one was different because the drink holders were on the outside of the seat. So I'm still trying to understand how does that tell you you can smoke on this airplane? Britney logic, honestly, whatever she says I'm going with. When I read it, I thought she was going to say, but there was an ashtray or something. Maybe that was the vibe she was getting. Are there ashtrays on planes? No. They used to be. Yeah, those little silver ones they? No. They used to be. They used to be. Yeah, the little

Starting point is 02:44:45 silver ones they pushed. The old planes. Yeah, they totally used to be. There's a smoking cabin in the plane she was on. In her defense. Maybe that was it. I know. We don't know what plane she flew. I love it. She's in Mexico living her best life. She was like, I swear, I feel so smart. I love her doing that. I love everything about her. She can do no wrong. How dare the authorities even? The question breaks. She didn't want to light up a cigarette.

Starting point is 02:45:12 Check the plane. Like you said, check it. Maybe there was an ashtray. Maybe there was something that she knew that others didn't. I love her positive spin. I love that she also broadcasted it. She's like, let me just talk about this. I love it.

Starting point is 02:45:23 She very much treats her Instagram with like 80 million followers as like her private Facebook. I love it. I love it so much. I missed it because she's been kind of quiet. She loves an emoji. I just, I love the way she posts online. Me too. I miss those captions so much. She was really doing it in 2020 and I really missed that like a little highlight of it. But I love that. Well, we have more extended hot topics on patreon.com slash just Trish. But before we go, this one was interesting because we, you know, we are girls, Tana and Brooke, we love them. They also do well on a thumbnail.

Starting point is 02:45:51 So this is our little. I will put them in there. Yeah, I'll take note. We, but they're, they're so funny. So they're on, they just finished their Europe tour. I think they're going to Australia in July. Love them both. Last week we talked about Brooke and Tana

Starting point is 02:46:05 showing the Dorts Gate, the full. I did watch Dorts Gate. Did you watch it? You saw it, you found it. I did, because I knew it was going to be a hot topic. So I was like, okay, I gotta. The Dorts Gate. Gotta be up there.

Starting point is 02:46:12 But it was, I will say, because I don't want to flip flop, but I will say it didn't make Tana look great, the Dorts Gate. Like obviously a lot of people were team Brooke. This week we have a new, the cancel podcast is so interesting because they are, it's almost like watching

Starting point is 02:46:29 a relationship podcast where it's very much like bickering. I guess I don't have friends, I don't know, but it reminds me of like a relationship or something where you air out. Yeah, because you see two girlfriends that one of them now has a boyfriend. They both have boyfriends. Oh, but you know, but it's like it's felt-

Starting point is 02:46:44 Was filmed, is it a new documentary that they put out like a new? No, it's a new kind of cancel podcast that came out this. Oh, okay, they're talking about how They're in the clip. I saw which kind of like resonated with me is there in Europe and they're on tour, right? Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't we haven't seen any of this No, I have Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't want to haven't seen any of this? No, I haven't. Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't want to go out in sightseeing with them in Europe. So it's like Paige, Brooke, Bibi. Yeah, she's like, you don't want to come out.

Starting point is 02:47:11 And it got pretty heated. And I always defer to the comments on TikTok because I never know where people are. George Gata, I was like, oh, this doesn't look good for Tana. Obviously everyone in the comments was like defending Brooke. They're like, this looked so bad because the way Tana was talking.

Starting point is 02:47:24 But this one, people were defending Tana because basically Brooke was upset that Tana didn't want to come out. And Tana was like, well, I'm watching the Patreon. And then Brooke will be like, okay, but Patreon's like an hour. She was like, well, I have three Patreons to watch. Or then she went and said,

Starting point is 02:47:39 I've already seen everything in Paris. I've seen the Louvre. Or she'll flip and say, I have to reserve my energy for the meet and greets and all this stuff like that because she doesn't want to be out all day, whatever. And then she, her final boss, is that how people say it now? The final boss.

Starting point is 02:47:51 I love how people say that. It's like the final boss. Her final boss of the argument was, you know, I just don't like to be outside because Brooke was like, you're just in a mall all day. She was, yeah, but that's my idea of fun. Like I like to be inside. Like I don't want to be outside while Brooke and all the friends were like doing all the touristy stuff, going on hikes and stuff. And I was like, I just don't like to be inside, like I don't wanna be outside while Brooke and all the friends were like doing all the touristy stuff, going on hikes and stuff.

Starting point is 02:48:06 And Tana's like, I just don't like to be outside. So then people flip as they do. That's the thing, it's so funny. One week it's like Team Brooke and the next week it's Team Tana. When in reality they have a podcast together, it should be like, but I guess that's what they put out. I guess that's what also is like their engagement of it all

Starting point is 02:48:21 is just like the back and forth of it. But I thought it was interesting because I relate to Tana in this sense where I'm just like, oh, we go on tour, we fly in the day of, and I think they're on a plane over there. I think they're not doing a bus, so I think they're flying into everything. My dancers will go out, everyone will go out.

Starting point is 02:48:38 They'll go out at lunchtime, because we land at like noon. They'll go find a place to eat lunch, and then they'll go out after the show, like at 10 o'clock. Both times I'm like in bed. Like I will sleep at noon till about two o'clock I have to get ready.

Starting point is 02:48:50 And then same thing with after the show. I like leave instantly after the show. And then I'm just like in bed. And my old tour in 2019, a heartbreak tour, I was going out all the time. I was doing like Cheesecake Factory and Fireballs and stuff like that. So I just thought it was interesting

Starting point is 02:49:03 that so many people were actually team Tana on this because so many, a lot of people were like, okay, you know, you're in a new city. Like I guess Brooke's argument was like, you're in Europe. Like, why don't you want to see Europe? Yeah. But I'm gonna tell you, like even when I'm on vacation, I just, we were to the Maldives for what, like a week.

Starting point is 02:49:19 And I just, I loved, we were in the bed and just watching in Kanto the whole time. And it was like like that's my idea It's like okay the oceans there. We got okay. We had dinner We didn't go out and eat dinner once in a while But I just love just being in a place and then also just being inside. You know what I mean? I When I travel I like very low-key Yeah, I would butt heads with my family on this because when we went on a family trip to Italy and my dad wanted

Starting point is 02:49:44 to do like all the stops this, this, this, and I'm like, I would like to just kind of roam and just explore and see what comes to me. Yeah, I almost feel like I'm a local. I wanna like, I don't wanna go to the most popular shop. I wanna go to the one that's closest to our Airbnb or something like that. No.

Starting point is 02:50:03 It's a more low key experience. I kind of get anxiety. We did the Travy Fountain and it was so crowded. And I started having anxiety attack because it was so many people and their hair was touching my arm because it was so crowded. I was like, sensory overload. It was crazy.

Starting point is 02:50:18 So I get that. But I also understand Brooke's POV. We're young. We're friends. We're co-hosts. We're on this adventure together I want to go and explore These places these really cool places and make memories with each other So I totally get I really get both sides of it I think I probably lean more Tana's side and I'm not just saying that because she kind of pays me as well

Starting point is 02:50:42 because she kind of pays me as well. Right, and I love lying bias, yeah. Full disclosure, I do send an invoice. Which is cute, your invoice is cute by the way, that's a sign, no, but you have a little cartoon in front of you. Yeah, I literally only send you invoices. Oh really? It's so professional. Well, I used to, when I did art commissions, I used to use PayPal, but they take such a percentage.

Starting point is 02:51:00 Oh yeah, we had to switch it up too. Yeah, so now I get paid directly from you. But yeah, so. But also, I'm 100% on Tana's side in this case, because when you have shows, it's a responsibility. We just talked about Justin Bieber showing up to a show. Yes. You have a responsibility and you're not even back home. You're in a foreign land and you could easily be late, spring your ankle, get sick. Like something that will jeopardize the show that people are paying to come and watch. If I was out there, I reserve my energy, prepare for the show, rest, eat well.

Starting point is 02:51:37 Like people usually have like a whole ritual before a show. Like there's certain foods they eat, the certain bat they take, the, like there's certain foods they eat, there's certain bat they take, there's certain, like they have a ritual, so they show up to the show 100% prepared and all that. She has a boyfriend, you have intimacy, you're in Paris, it's romantic. She didn't go to the Eiffel Tower with Mekoa, she was saying that, like they went and did their stuff.

Starting point is 02:51:58 There's certain things, but for me specifically, in this situation, what bothered me was, Tana was very open, very specific. She's like, I know my battery. I don't want to run out of battery before the show. I know what I can do. I know what I cannot do. I have experience in this.

Starting point is 02:52:13 And there were other things that happened that she didn't specify. She was like, I don't want to talk about it, but it was something that was something bad. She was dealing with something in Ireland, whatever. So obviously she didn't want to go there. But every time she would say something, the response would be like, it was kind of like the key and appeal. Yeah. Like, okay, awkward.

Starting point is 02:52:30 Every time she would say something, Brooke would say something and kind of be like, no, but no, I'm telling you. I would not, he's like, okay, but it was your choice. Yeah, or like, agree or disagree. She's like, no, but like, yeah. There's or disagree. She's like, no, but like, yeah. No, there's no disagree. It sounds like the antithesis of the issue in Jortsgate where she was like, it seemed like she was almost like going out, burnt out and was then running late. It's now she's like, I need to be very diligent.

Starting point is 02:52:57 I have podcasts that I'm running. I have a show that we're doing. I need to like mentally prepare. I had to mentally prepare for this podcast. It's a lot. I woke up. I need to like mentally prepare. I had to mentally prepare for this podcast Earlier just sit in silence Especially on tour I sit in silence all the time. There's a thing I do call quiet hour Because it's like okay. We okay full thing So like if we fly in the day of the show we get there at 11

Starting point is 02:53:19 We have to get to our top noon then you have to like eat food whatever then I take a nap then it's like 2 o'clock I start glaming 2 to to 4.30 I glam. 4.30 is a super VIPs. So then those are the people who pay extra, actually want you to get more time with you. Then you do the five to 6 p.m. VIPs, which is a little more like line through, but you still gotta give all your energy

Starting point is 02:53:34 because they also paid. And then you do the Q and A at 6.15. So then between 6.15 to 7.15, I have like quiet hour where literally you've been on the shows. I have everyone in the room, just like stay quiet, like either on their phones or whatever, or I go into a different room because you've been on the shows. I have everyone in the room, just like stay quiet, like either on their phones or whatever, or I go into a different room

Starting point is 02:53:47 because you really need that like reset. But you're right, cause George Gate was like, you know, there's people paying to meet you and you can't show up on time. So now Tana is like, well, this is my, you know, this is where I'm at, this is where my battery is. So it was interesting. I do, I know what you're saying too.

Starting point is 02:54:04 It's like, and maybe I think Brooks's delivery too sometimes gets interpreted the wrong way. Sometimes I think people, she has a different delivery than like Tana. So it has come across a little bit more like a little judgy or whatever. Because maybe she was trying to be like funny to the back and forth. You never know with these girls, even George Gates, I'm like, was this all scripted just for a little drama? You know what I mean? Because it was so crazy. Tana's reaction was so crazy. And then seeing reaction was so crazy. And then seeing the flip side of this now, like you said, like the antithesis,

Starting point is 02:54:27 is that the word you used? Love that word, I never heard it, but I love it. And I kind of heard it, but I didn't know what it meant. But now I infer because context clues. But every podcast will be. Yeah, I was like antithesis, I like that, okay. So yeah, then for, so I was, I too was 100% on Brookside, but I was 100% on Brookside with George Gates.

Starting point is 02:54:43 So I, it's not the bias of not love line with it all. But yeah, touring is such a different thing, especially in Europe. And meet and greet, it's a performance. Like meet and greet takes more energy than actually performing. I put more energy in meet and greets for sure. Because like you have the people that you sit one-on-one with and Tricia gives like all of her attention and all of it. And you're in conversations and you have to be present and then you stand there physically standing with like 75 to 90 people that are coming through and you talk to each person give them the hundred percent that you can give them and then and aside of that I just know how it is everyone wants to talk to Trisha

Starting point is 02:55:22 or in that case Tana or everyone wants to talk to you, people backstage and the people that work on the show and the people that promote the show and to get that one hour of just a little bit of quiet before you go on stage. It's like, it's a huge thing to get that little space. You know, like they said to like, you know, it was like, Tana said it is like people have different batteries. Some people can go out all day and still perform at night and be so like hyped and so, yeah, it's different things for sure. Me, I'm someone who needs to like sleep the most.

Starting point is 02:55:48 So I always tell people I'm like, I'm checking you out. And you're pregnant. Well, yeah, it's different. But even if I'm not pregnant, I do love a little sleep before I love a little nap. So it is different. It is definitely, it was definitely interesting to see all that play out.

Starting point is 02:56:01 It's so funny. It's so funny how like open they are too. Yeah. Cause it's like, I guess this is why I like doing other people's hot topics. Cause it's like not your stuff. Cause you do air it all out. It's so funny. It's so funny how like open they are to. Yeah. Because it's like, I guess that's why I like doing other people's hot topics, because it's like not your stuff, because you do air it all out. I always think about this even with the George's Gate of it all, which I did get some George's and maybe I'll wear them next week. But it's interesting because it's like on one hand you think like, because when I saw the George's Gate I remember thinking

Starting point is 02:56:21 like why did Tana air all that? Like that's crazy. But in one hand you might think you're completely right. I used to think that all the time when I used to do like interviews where I'm just like, no, I'm definitely right on this, like air it out. But then I'm like, ooh, no, maybe you're not. You know what I mean? So the fact that they both agreed to put that out, I was like, that's so crazy.

Starting point is 02:56:35 Cause to me it was like so clearly like, oh my gosh, Brooke was in the wrong. But you know, some people agree with her. She has a lot of energy, you know, they both have different things, different priorities, but I guess that's why they're popular and they're on tour and everyone loves them. And I guess that's the whole point of the tour,

Starting point is 02:56:50 is the cancel podcast is you never know what you're gonna get, all the drama of it all. It makes it interesting. It makes it interesting. Yes, man, each other the whole time. They both have very different points of views on things. They're very passionate. They very talk about it too.

Starting point is 02:57:02 It is- There's enough podcasts of people that agree with each other on everything. Yeah, that is true. You got to have different opinions. We love to see it. We love to watch. That's what's amazing is when you can have a podcast talking about your life, I always think that. I was like, oh my God, they make it interesting. They're not the views podcast over there. The bulls**t is just like, you guys, I have to admit, I did listen to an episode. I listened to an episode a long long time. I had dance rehearsals yesterday. Once again, I listened to Stephanie C. Ron Mango,

Starting point is 02:57:27 but once that's over, it gives me back to view. So I'm not doing this by choice. It literally looped me in on their newest one. And I hate it. And I did listen to it for like 30 minutes, but now they have like seven co-hosts, like seven of people you don't know. I don't like that.

Starting point is 02:57:42 It's like- It's too much. Too much. It was like David's friends from high school's girlfriend was on there Just talking about who knows what just this stuff in that happened in Chicago and all these different names Jonathan all these people I'm like, what the hell are they talking about? It was 30 minutes of just them telling a story about have no idea what it was So at least the cancelled girls to their credit I am invested in this drama, you know what I mean? They're good at keeping us in I have no idea what it was. So at least the cancel girls to their credit, I am invested in this drama. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:58:05 They're good at keeping us in. That VEWs podcast, I think someone paid them a lot of money and they probably regret it because it's like 30 minutes of nothing. It's nothing. It's not even like a good name. Like it's very hard to look up like David Dobrik views.

Starting point is 02:58:19 Like you're gonna get social blames. Yeah, like what is this? It's Joey Behar. I just, it was so random. Oh my God. What? Speaking of the view, I saw a clip of Rosie O'Donnell from like the 2000s. She's like, she's emceeing like an award show or something. Yes, the Diddy.

Starting point is 02:58:34 And she's just like, everybody can rest easy. Diddy went home. I know. No, they knew. Her and Wendy. Wendy clocked it. Wendy always clocked it. She always had issues with Diddy. But even actually, now that I think about it, Rosie, I think, was talking about it on TikTok, how she said she used to be neighbors with Diddy

Starting point is 02:58:50 in the Hamptons or something. And she went for a minute, and they were like, no kids or something, so she didn't go, but she's like, there was some weird shit happening, so she kind of knew it. She said she went and left. Yeah, but they were like neighbors,

Starting point is 02:59:02 and then the next day, Diddy wanted to take everyone to a movie or something or rented out a movie theater for them. It was something so weird. So scary. The girlies knew back then. Yeah. Yikes on all that. But anyways, we honestly.

Starting point is 02:59:18 Oh my God. I don't know. People love long episodes. So that's I always try to push for the longer ones. That's crazy. I started a guy early so I'm cool Okay. Okay. Yeah, like we just had a whole yap session. I didn't know I love Such a yapper. I loved it. I didn't know how I was gonna go cuz we'd talk at parties Yeah, but I you know, you're always kind of just chill and cool

Starting point is 02:59:38 But thank you for having me and thank you everybody for always being so kind on the podcast in the comments it means a lot to me to read those comments because, you know, it's not like a labor intensive job, but it is very uninterrupted, like eight or nine hours of working on everything. So it's cool to like, I mean, I've always said I'm like, Trisha could literally just like cut the check and like never talk to me. So like the fact that like not only do I get like the positive affirmations from the comments, I get it on the show, I have like a personal relationship with you guys now. Like it's very cool. I feel very much like a part of

Starting point is 03:00:12 the team and it's very fulfilling for me creatively and career wise. That makes me so happy because you are so talented. I don't think I could say it enough. Thank you. You are so talented. Thank you very much. You add so much. Everyone says much. You add so much. Everyone says it. You add so much to the show and we love you so much.

Starting point is 03:00:27 And I'm so happy you were here. This was so fun because you've been on as a guest, I guess, for those 30 minute hot topics, but this was so good. I was nervous because I was just like, I don't have a laugh track. You have a laugh track. You are so good. The energy is just impeccable. It was amazing.

Starting point is 03:00:41 It was so fun. Thank you so much. Should we try extended now or should we wait? I'm fine with doing it if you want to. Yeah was amazing. It was so fun. Thank you so much. Should we try extended now or should we wait? I'm fine with doing it if you want to. Yeah, let's do extended. Okay. Okay.

Starting point is 03:00:49 Cutting. You can say goodbye. Okay. All right. So we'll do an extended. This is great. We'll do an extended podcast over at patreon.com slash just Trish. Check it out.

Starting point is 03:01:03 We love you. Check out Jimmy Wetzel everywhere. Become a Wetzel pretzel. I just want to call it a Wetzes. That's what they're called. I was like, what is it? I finally had a Wetzel pretzel. And was it good?

Starting point is 03:01:12 It was so good. The best. Angie Ann's sorry, not interested anymore. Did you get the little bag with little nuggets or did you get the full pretzel? Yeah, I just got the nuggets. They butter them. It gave me heartburn, but I live for it anyway.

Starting point is 03:01:21 Just get some Tums, get some Nexium I'm on. That's all I need. I do some Prilosec every day. Every day? Doesn't work. But I- Do you try Nexium for heartburn? Yeah.

Starting point is 03:01:31 I'm not a doctor, consult your doctor, but I do do the Nexium. Consult Rupaul's TikTok. Especially if you're pregnant. Oh yeah, Rupaul's TikTok. Oh yeah. Oh right, but the Nexium's good. Anyways, all right.

Starting point is 03:01:38 Bye guys. Bye. Bye. I was like, where do we go?

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