Just Trish - Why Does Everyone Forgive James Charles? + Stephanie Soo Faces Diddy Backlash

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

It's been 6 years since 'BYE SISTER', but it seems like James Charles hasn't grown up after his 10-minute response to the allegations of his involvement with Kayla Malec's ex, Evan Johnson. Plus, true crime mukbang sensation Stephanie Soo faces backlash for her "just a girl" coverage of the Diddy trial. And Austin McBroom FINALLY gets exposed for being a cheater by his ex, Catherine Paiz.  💖🪩THANKS TO HOMECHEF FOR SPONSORING THIS EPISODE!💖🪩 For a limited time, Home Chef is offering our listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to https://homechef.com/TRISH 💖🪩THANKS TO BROOKLYN BEDDING FOR SPONSORING THIS EPISODE!💖🪩 Go to brooklynbedding.com and use my promo code TRISH at checkout to get 30% off sitewide. 💖🪩 THANK YOU TO MANSCAPED FOR SPONSORING TODAY'S EPISODE! 🪩💖 Head over to https://manscaped.com/ and join the over 11 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED® by using code [TRISH] for 20% off + free shipping. 💖🪩THANKS TO MORGAN & MORGAN FOR SPONSORING TODAY'S EPISODE!💖🪩 If you’re ever injured, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. For more information go to https://www.forthepeople.com/TRISH or dial Pound LAW - Pound 529 - from your cell phone. 💖🪩JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 https://justtrish.com Sponsor Just Trish: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/just-trish-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If I had a nickel for every time James Charles made a response showing screenshots from a text message conversation I'd probably have like 45 cents I'd be like, Jeff and I are being Quentin Tarantino What? I'm like, through Patreon by the way, I'm the golden child of Patreon, I don't understand What? I mean, while your Patreon name is Trish Taylor. Do you know what that was?

That was before we changed it. Her name is Trish, she's got the fish and all the gossips. Filthy rich, pretty and pink. Hot topic queen, and that's what everybody thinks. She's just Trish. Yay! Hello! Welcome to the Just Trish podcast, our favorite show twice a week, every week.

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Check out JustTrish.com. You guys, also premiering right after this episode is our gay music video. It's out. Because why not? Just because it's not June doesn't matter. We can be gay all year round. I'm super proud of this music video. Gay music video out now. We had a lot of queens from RuPaul's Drag Race

Season 17, which I was super excited. It was my favorite season ever. Check it out. It stars Corey King, Jewel Sparkles. We also had Acacia Forgot and Joella and just fabulous other queens. And just cameos by Oscar and Jane. I should show you. I should show you now. Your dancing made it. Your little cane dancing. No, I was worried for that. It was actually, it actually looked so good.

I was like, okay, you guys actually served. The photos are so cute. The photos of you with the queens too. It literally looks like drag con. It looks so beautiful. It does.

I was lining up. It was, anyways, I was super excited, super proud. Moses makes a cameo. My mom makes a cameo. Dancers from my tour,

dancers from Pride make a cameo. It was just a gay old time really, it really was. And check it out now, all proceeds from the music video will go to Trans Lifeline and then we donated 5,000 on behalf of the podcast and the music video to The Trevor Project. The Trevor Project has been around for a very long time. They provide a 24-7 hotline for suicide prevention, so any young adults in the LGBTQ community, or any adults

for that matter, or kids can call into this hotline if they seek help. And they've been doing really great work for a very long time, and so we donated $5,000 to the Trevor Project and another $5,000 to the ACLU Drag Defense Fund, which was a one I see all the time on Drag Race. If you watch, there's like a QR code to scan. And I actually didn't know that much about it, but when I looked into it, I was like very impressed with all the work they'd done. Moses knew the ACLU, they've been around for a very long time as well. But the Drag Defense Fund specifically is protecting the First Amendment right for freedom of speech for not only drag performers, but all performers in the LGBTQ community, because it's crazy in 2025 that we're at risk for not being able to

express ourselves, which is crazy, especially in the arts world and the creativity world. But they're doing great work as well. So we did $10,000 total. A couple weeks ago, we donated $10,000 to Trans Lifeline. And then all the proceeds from the music video will go to Trans Lifeline. And all really great causes to donate to all year round. But with Pride coming up, just a few to think of. And if you guys have any other suggestions of charities we should look into, we definitely will, because not only do we love and support the LGBTQ plus community, but my tour and stuff has been doing really well, and the people who come out, it's all, it's all the gays, and we love it, and the fact that they were all, we all did this video together, it was really, it was beautiful, it was just this really, you left right

before we did the drag show, but people were just like so, I don't know how to explain it, it was beautiful. It was just this really, you left right before we did the drag show, but people were just like, so, I don't know how to explain it. It's just like, I don't know, just a celebration when you just see performers from like all walks of life, just be there. And obviously the Queens were amazing. I was just, oh my God, I've never been more intimidated to perform next to anybody in my life because they were amazing. But just even like the crowd, like everyone was just so hyped to be there and supporting good causes.

And it was, it was, it was from all walks of life. We had allies and we had, you know, the LGBT, we had everyone there and it was just so hyped to be there and supporting good causes and it was it was it was from all walks of life we had allies and we had you know the lgbt we had everyone there and it was just really beautiful my entire crew that i've worked with my music producer my director um all of them in the queer community doing they work in queer media you could say because my director andrew he does do uh because he has two movies out and they're both uh queer based movies like based on uh maraschina i keep saying it wrong maraschina family. It was based on, it was like these couples, all different walks of life, like lesbian couple, gay couple. They all, it's their parenting journey and everything. It's really beautiful.

It's a beautiful film. She also did one called The Letterman with Garrett Clayton. And it was about two men during, I think it's some war, Civil War. I don't know. One of the wars. They find love. And it's beautiful. And it's wonderful.

And he's turning that into a feature. So it's really fun. And like I said, I've worked with all these people for like a decade. And I'm proud to be part of the queer community. I love the queer community, especially the gays. And it's just, I don't know, it's just fun. And I just thought it was a good way to give back. And all the performers were obviously paid.

Maybe not Oscar and Jimmy. I think they just showed up. They just came for the fun. But we actually saved money because we would have gone to drag con and paid you know quite a bag to see me i know cory king's me and great probably would have been expensive the cameos are rising i got a cory king cameo my vlog so yes it all it's in the edison edit right now it'll be out this week, though, for sure. So, yeah, no payment was needed because I actually saved a lot of money. We could probably send you, did you guys send a release?

I could probably send you something for it, okay? There's probably like a non-union fee we have to pay or something. But we did pay all the performers. They were all wonderful and they showed up. And, yeah, Corey and Jules, they're kind of like the stars of the video. It's a recreation of Too Wong Fu, which is like, we talk about this on the podcast, love it. They knew it too, which I was surprised because they're 23 and 25, which is like so young, but they knew it well. They were just so humble and sweet. Corey showed up by himself.

I think Jules just had like one assistant. I was like, this is it. I talk with like seven people on a music video like hair, stockings, pull up, everything and they were just like, this is it. I traveled with like seven people on a music video, like hair, stockings, pull up, everything. And they were just like, showed up. They were like literally so sweet, so fun the entire time, like gaggy. I gooned with Jewel Sparkles. You gooned? Yeah, we gooned. You don't know what gooning is?

She's like, you gotta goon. And I was like, okay. And she even tweeted, like I gooned with Chishpita. So I was like, I got Chishpita to goon with me. Oh my God. Is that gooning? I don't know when Ted was here. When Ted was here was here explained it differently but yeah oh he talked about gooning yes yeah he's that's how we learned about it how does he know about gooning i thought it was like a he's a guy in a guy's world it's i thought it was like a drag world in the men world for sure

in the men world yeah oh all walks of all men world? Yeah. Oh, okay. All walks of manliness. Wait, really? Yeah. How come the Fierce Queens know about gooning then? I think maybe the faces can be kind of camp, I guess. Gooning, oh. Yeah, I think when you're serious about gooning, it's... I think this was camp gooning.

A lot of hand action and a lot of video consumption. I thought I was learning some cute new gay slang. I was like, oh, I need some drag slang. Okay, something I should not know. She said it was a cutesy face. I think maybe that's the face you have at the end of the session.

What? What are we talking? Like gooning. I did not know until Ted showed up here. Well, you're turning red like you knew. You're like, I thought gooning I you knew I did not know until Ted showed up here but well you're turning red like you knew you're like I knew gooning it's funny

how do you know about gooning what do you say men be gooning I can't take any more gooning from men I only take it from cute queens only oh my god

okay I didn't know she made it cutesy she was like doing I'm sure Jewel everything Jewel does is like cutesy so I'm sure she was doing the camp way

like yeah gorge by the way I know I look really small like I like cutesy. So I'm sure she was doing the camp way. Like, yeah. Gorge. By the way, I know I look really small. Like, I was watching the video and I look very, like, short. Not. I'm wide. But I look short. But it's only because I was wearing a kitten heel.

I was being the Mistress Isabel of the season. I was wearing a kitten heel. And they all were wearing a huge. Even Corey was wearing, like. Because Corey got clocked for wearing the small heels by Rue in the season. But she was also wearing like gold, like seven inch ones. So everyone was wearing really tall heels, which I simply could not do. But it doesn't matter what you would have wore.

Like Corey is just like, I don't know, 10 feet. She was 10 feet up there. Yeah, she was tall. And then her wig was like this high. The wig gave the inches. But Jules was very, when she took off her shoes, we were actually kind of the same size. I was kind of like, oh, okay. So that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, Jules made me look teeny tiny too. Yes. She even clocked me. She's like, I didn't know you were so short. I said, I'm gagging. In their eight inch heels. They were gagging me left and right. Well, I never realized.

I guess that is part of the drag world. But on Twitter, they're all like gagging each other. I was just like, oh my gosh. All the reads. They're all shading each other. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. the reads yeah I was like oh okay I loved it it was it was a dream come true

you'll see in the video watch after this but I we did this whole like runway thing and I felt like I was on RuPaul's Drag Race it was so good I feel like we should react to it but maybe not should we wait I want to show it's short should we react to it or no we're on a tight schedule today

but I think like either yeah yeah okay let me show it's only like two minutes i'll just send it to you maybe i can send it to your computer oh yeah or a link i think even if we don't show the whole video just to see oscar because we can we can later on watch the whole video on patreon yeah okay well i think we should watch the whole video now i loved it i'm like gag by it even like um i was just watching i was like wait this is actually so it's actually so good i don't know maybe it's just me okay i sent it to you no it was it was like being on a movie set i mean the whole production We're all a little gay, no way, we're all a little gay, no way, we're all a little gay, okay, we're all a little gay The rainbow's at Birkin's house, so we can be gay, we can be gay, you can be gay, what did you say?

Let's say, we're all a little gay, no way, we're all a little gay, what's that you say? Gay, is gay okay? Olay, you wanna eat black to the thing, huh? We gotta make it gay, we gay okay? Olay! You wanna eat black buffet? Then you gotta make it gay. We're all a little gay. Bowen, oh my god. Oh, tumble! That worked! Oh, I didn't see this part. Oh god.

Olay! You wanna eat black buffet? Then you gotta make it gay. I'm scared. I'm dead. I'm scared. Oh, okay! It worked! I'm dead. Your mom ate that up. Mo's pointing to the shirt.

Oh my god. Oh, I love this part. Made it. That was so good. That's my favorite video. I just, okay, yes. I loved it. I was so good. Oh my god.

I never want to show anyone my music videos, by the way. Usually I'm like, oh, cringe, cringe, cringe. But I love that one. No, that one is so good. And the turnaround was so fast. I thought it would be like a couple weeks, but you have a week. We filmed it on Tuesday.

That is crazy. And that's colored and everything. It's so good. It's so good. This is Oscar with the queens. Oh, I love it. I look so small. I was living.

I was really living. There was another one. This is you, Jules, and Corey. Oh, my sisters. Oh, my God. You got them in both outfits, too. I love it. Thank God.

I forgot about that one. And then, oh, yeah, then there's some stills of you and Jimmy dancing. I love that one. I was really working. I was like, let me. You really were. I was very. I was giving my all. Proud and impressed. And Jimmy, too. I was like, let me... You really were. I was very... I was giving my all.

Proud and impressed. And Jimmy, too. I was like, wow. I was really... I just... I really do love the gays. And I feel like I just say that sometimes because, you know, everyone loves the gays, right? It's like trendy.

It's to be like, oh, my God, we love the gays. Gay fans are the best. But I really do. I'm just the happiest. I realized that. I was like, I think I'm just happiest around gays. I love it so much. It was so fun. I don't know. It made my whole life. It was just like fun. I don't know what to say. It was just like fun, fun, fun. And everyone was just happy to

be there. Everyone was hyping so much. Joella was like, wait, this song is really good. And I was like, Joella, you thought Woman's World was good too. But you just start reading. I also start turning shady. I'm like, oh, I'm also a queen. I was being so shady too. I was like, oh my God, just me trying. I have never been more intimidated by anybody

in my life. I really loved the Queens this season and, you know, obviously when it's the fresh season, they're so big because the season

just happened and it's like one of the biggest shows in the world. So I was so happy they all said yes and I was so, I was intimidated. I was so scared but they were yes. And I was so, I was intimidated.

I was so scared. But they were very, very sweet. Both Kory and Jules was down to come on the podcast. Yes. We got to get them on. And Jules even said, like, Oscar, are you going to be there? She was so excited. I know.

And Kory even vlogged leaving the set too and said the same thing. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They were just so, they said that you were so nice. It was so fun to eat with you. And they love spending time with you. And they are so excited to come on Just Trish at some point.

So I'm very excited. I love them. Yeah, everybody, all of them. All of them were just like absolute queens. But it's like, you know when you're young and you also get this new fame, right? Like Corey, obviously. They're all killing it. They're all doing major club appearances, all this stuff like that.

And you get new fame. Sometimes you get like, not in a bad way, but you're just, you're really, you're really famous in the moment, right? And so you're just like, oh, like, I don't have time to do this little thing or whatever. But the fact that they came and did it was, like, super, super sweet. And that's, too, why I wanted to donate to all the charities, because it's just, like, I was just happy they all showed up. All the performers, all the ones, the dancers in the little shorts, they're my pride dancers, but they all dance with, like, Beyonce at Coachella. There's a Britney Spears backup dancer.

They all dance with major celebrities, so the fact that they came and did this little fun song was really fun. So, yes. And RuPaul, don't sue me because we have a little Sean Payne. You stay in there. That was, okay, so I did the voice memo of this whole song to Jeremy, but he put that little part in there, and I was like, I don't know if we can use that. I feel like that's trademark, but we love you and we love

Drag Race and we love the queens and we support and yeah so thank you and like I said I'll post these songs we'll go to a good cause cause we're not just monetizing off gays just to put in my pocket we're doing it for good so download the song stream it everywhere catch us at Pride June

Friday June 6th I think. In Washington, D.C. One of those, yes. Anyways. That is so funny. And behind the scenes tea that I have to give is the best part is the little dancers doing like their booty shots. Is your mom, you're like, mom, you want to see on the screen, on the monitor?

And she's like, no, I'm looking at real life. She was like, she was really into that choreography with a little booty shaking yes she was she loved it and then she was next to another

one of our dancers in booty shorts and I was like mom we gotta get like more into it we gotta get more into it and she was okay I didn't know

if I was a gay or an ally she didn't know if she was supposed to be into the man or not I was like mom you're just

my mom you're here to support but she was she was wanting to know the notes of it all. She's like, well, I'm like, it's everybody, you know. Okay. All inclusive. Then Moses, his cameo is pointing.

Weirdly, that shot made the cut of him pointing to ice cream on the back of the shirt. I don't know. But I also loved you being there. I was happy to read it. Because I was caught off guard. I was like, it was my turn to do a solo dance or something. But I didn't even see where the camera was or what it was. I was looking at you.

And it was just like. I think that was the most I've seen you, like, nervous. Like, I've never seen you, like, not. Not for myself. I was. I knew that you were nervous about having me there. Like, you know what I mean? No, I wasn't.

No. I was more for you. And that's for me. I was nervous for you. Because I'll tell you why. Because I was nervous to like perform. Like when we did the picnic table thing and Jules goes up for a stretch on the picnic table, just looks so fierce and eight inch heels, just serving, going down, dipping,

dipping, dipping. Then Corey's up next. Corey is doing the most, the legs open, like just doing so much. And then Andy, my director is like, Trish, do you want to go up there? And I was like, in my head, I'm like, no, of course not. Like I'm seven months pregnant. I don't know if this is going to tip over. Like, I'm not going to even be able to move before I was pregnant, but definitely can't

move now being pregnant like that. Like, I'm, but it was like my one shot. And I was like, okay, Trish, you did this video. We went budget for this. We went, is it budget or no budget? I don't know what to say when you like. No budget. No budget.

No cost. No budget. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we had a budget. It wasn't a million dollars. No, no, no. Well, okay.

When you tell somebody. Big budget. When you tell somebody you're on a budget. Okay. Or if they ask you, is there a budget? It's like, no budget. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we had a budget. It wasn't a million dollars. No, no, no. Okay. When you tell somebody you're on a budget. Okay. Or if they ask you, is there a budget? It's like, no budget. Yeah, this was kind of. Going crazy.

There's no budget. Yeah. I haven't gotten the rest of the invoice yet. But usually he knows what to keep it in. But it probably. Anyways. So I was like, oh, just do it. This is like your video.

You wanted to do it. But it was the same thing for you. I was just like, I know when people go full out. Because there was a bunch of solos before you. Maybe you don't get intimidated. But I was. I wasn't intimidated. I was just like, I know when people go full out, like, because there was a bunch of solos before you, maybe you don't get intimidated, but I was. I wasn't intimidated. I was like, I don't want to,

like, dance, but then I had to, like, let it go, especially for the drag scene at the end. We did that at nighttime, and I was like,

okay, Trish, just do it. Even though everyone else is, like, serving so hard, I just, I don't know.

I always thought I was a good performer until I saw them perform, and I was kind of like, damn, I'm really, I'm a mid, which is fine. I'm admitted to be a mid,

but I was like, damn, they're really, really good. They're just so, what is the word coordinated like never falling yeah like how even when they sometimes they do the wobble as like a fake out like but they're like in control of it I was like no Bowen um Arrow she's like a local LA queen I think she's friends she's friends with Acacia and she's the one in the blue the really really tall one, but she's literally, like, a circus performer. Like, she does aerial

work. She does, like, fire dancing. And, like, she's so tall and, like, I don't know. The thing she does with her body... My back was hurting just from the little cake moment. The little cake moment. Same, yeah. Me getting up on that table, my back was hurting. No, I know. She, I know. I didn't know

they were gonna go full out like that. I would tell you, because, like, right when you guys left, it started, but I didn't know. Like, I didn't know if it was gonna be, like, full out like that. That's what I would tell you. Because, like, right when you guys left, it started. But I didn't know. Like, I didn't know if it was going to be, like, long or slow or whatever. And they did all those performances. And they did it probably, like, 30 times. Like, full out. I was gay.

I was so gay. Because, obviously, I watched Drag Race and stuff. But I actually have never really seen, like, drag performers, like, live. And now it's, like, all I want to do. Because watching it, I was just, like, so mesmerized. And, likeized and like even the featured um like extras I guess you could call them but they were just so wonderful they stayed and they were so hyped it was just it was so cool because I was like um is gay okay and they'd be like hell yeah they were just like so excited so I don't know they really brought a lot to it yes and Divos who's also Acacia's friend. I met her when she came to do the collab,

and she was there. All of them were amazing and wonderful, and I feel honored. So I don't know. It was a good video. This episode of Just Trish sponsored by Home Chef. We love Home Chef. I have been touring, and on the road, I'm always eating out, and sometimes I just want a home-cooked meal. But however, when I come home, we can't find time to do the home-cooked meal. How are we going to go to the store? How are we going to get ingredients? Home Chef has got us covered. They can prepare a meal for a single or family plan. They provide all the ingredients directly to your door so you get them fresh and just the ingredients you need and use. Because sometimes I buy a lot of ingredients, I leave, and then they go to badness. Let's also talk about price difference, okay? Sometimes you think,

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first box, plus free dessert for life. That's my favorite perk. Go to homechef.com slash Trish. That's homechef.com slash Trish, T-R-I-S-H, for 50%. That's 5-0, 50%, half off your first box, and free dessert for life. HomeChef.com slash Trish. Must be an active subscriber to receive a free dessert. Thank you, Home Chef. And how'd you feel doing your solo? You were okay? You didn't get intimidated?

I kind of, at first, me and Jimmy were positioned right next to one of your dancers, Jonah, and then at first he was wearing sweatpants for like work and then he took off the sweatpants and it was like the red booty shorts and we're like copy that copy that um so i think we just decided to go full camp because like in comparison it's like well well yeah so uh yeah i had fun with it i was really excited to be there it was way more than literally i ever thought you really downplay everything even your birthday dinner too i like that was a whole soiree and we had no idea i was like you really do be downplaying things well that's so funny you say that that one was i feel like more like low-key but it still was i was surprised people came i mean it's because to me i'm like oh it's just like a cute few people but i was always surprised that people came. I mean, it's because to me, I'm like, oh, it's just like a cute few people. But I was always surprised that people came in.

I was like little. Did you make your own birthday invitation or is it was so like, no, it was so like, you know, it was so low key. And I was like, OK, like it would be a little get together. Then we show up and then it's like there's a DJ. There's like a little wedding. Yeah, it was like the table. Yeah. Arrangements. Yeah. It was like a little wedding. The tables and the arrangements and the flowers. I thought it was like Moses making bolognese. That would have been really cute actually. No, I know. It was like a whole thing. One day we'll do that.

We were supposed to, we didn't have any lights. Moses came through at the end to bring lights because I was like, oh my God, it's going to get dark. All other parties have like string lights go across and this one didn't. And I was like, okay, because I don't know. I guess inflation, this party costs more than more. I was like, okay. But I thought there was going to be some string lights. the one we thought there was no lights and our house gets really dark at night you what do you come up and you got some purple lights or something and put them out there and stuff so it was just

like a dj and like some like a little pasta wheel but it was like a five course meal but okay and you sat next to my dad who i just heard talking to you the whole time. Wow. The tea I got from your dad and stepmom, they are so convinced about the reincarnation of the pope. Like, they were going hard with their own investigation. Wait, what? Because my dad didn't know to me about this. In fact, I thought he thought it was blasphemous. I sent him articles about it. Oh, no.

Because my dad's like, if you guys don't know, he's like a hardcore Catholic. Now, obviously, I'm his daughter, so he's very like open-minded Catholic. But he's like, he goes to church every day. He's very involved with the church. He built the church from the I Love You Jesus video. Like he's very, all the money has gone to the church. I remember one time, like, he donated an absurd amount of money to the church.

And this was when I was like literally a prostitute in Hollywood. I was like, oh, I could have used $100 for that money. And he donated like an absurd amount to build a church. But anyway, so he's very Catholic. Anything's blasphemous. He thinks Moses is literally Moses. He sent out another text the other day like, thank you so much for saving Tricia. Prayers

answered. God sent. Anyways, so that's the background. But what did he... I thought it was blasphemous. He never talks to me about it. What did he say? He was excited? Oh, he was living. And you're stuck on to living. Yeah, because it was your birthday. That was the day the pope got elected chosen whatever i don't know either i was like the pope was chosen i was like all right oh and there were just like so many coincidences coming out and i was like and they they were telling me about him too and i'm like oh yeah

i know so the new pope was chosen on your birthday, which is kind of a big coincidence, both from Illinois. Your stepmom was born the same year as the Pope. So she's very into that. And only 12 miles apart. So they were born the same year, 12 miles apart. Yes. They were giving me all this tea. And then they were like,

they were like, I mean, that's too many coincidences. Like there has to be something going on. Yes. And the new Pope's birthday is Malibu's birthday. So how does that tie to this baby? Well, the past Pope died. Oh, I see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Pope Leo is the new one. And there was something else. Your dad was saying something else about this is Leo III, but Leo II was the first one to be on video camera. So he thinks that also is tied on to you because you have a career in front of the camera. He went on Jimmy to find it. Find it and edit it at Jimmy.

I was like, okay. Just giving notes to you guys. It was fierce, but they were all in. He was into it. I think he was so confused. I remember I sent him because, again, my dad loves, like he's like a super fan of Catholicism. So he loves the Pope and everything. I think it's the first Pope too, not only from Illinois, but obviously just like an

American. So that was a big thing. So my dad, I remember I sent him like articles when it first came out. I was like, oh my God, I'm like trending with the Pope or whatever. And I think my dad was like confused. So they must have really investigated after. I think they did. Because now they're all in.

They're on board. There was something else with the eights too. I forget what they said, but. Oh, the Pope was 88 when he died. Oh, yes. And that's my birth year. Yes. It is. And he's Pope Francis, which is my father's when he died. Oh, yes. And that's my birth year. Yes. It is.

And he's Pope Francis, which is my father's name is Francis. So he was like, it's a good name for the baby. And it's a boy. And so, you know, it's not, it's not bad. Moses was talking about middle name being Francis. I was like, okay, well, the names we think of for the first name doesn't really go with Francis. It would have to be Pope Francis. I don't know.

I love that my dad's on board with it. I mean, the amount of coincidences is a little spooky, like a little eerie. I'm like, wait. It was all like for gags and giggles and now I'm like, but actually? Yeah, but actually, no, there was a TikTok that has literally like this morning had like 9 million views talking about like all

the coincidences and like Trisha's womb is so powerful. We talked about, I talked about tying my tubes and you're like your mom's like I love it do it but I'm kind of like what if I'm shutting off like a power what if I'm shutting off like life you know what I mean maybe I'm destined to have 10 kids you know I don't know like maybe there's something that I need to be doing for the world there is a lot to think about now it is a lot of pressure. I seriously am thinking about it. I'm like, maybe I shouldn't. And then even when you said like, well, Elvis, you know, no one died.

But then the explanation I saw was if Elvis was a boy, King Charles would have kicked the bucket. Oh, he waited. So he was spared because Elvis was a girl. Oh, I see. Yeah, because Malibu, Queen Elizabeth, and maybe you were supposed to take out Queen Charles, but

you somehow had a girl, so then Charles was spared, and then the Pope, now that you're having a boy. The gender roles, okay. It does kind of make sense, because it is like, well, how did no one die for Elvis? He was spared. Yes. It was shaky there for a moment.

It was touch and go. If Pete Charles would have sadly passed away, then I would be like, this is crazy. But the Pope is a little. But we'll run with it. I love that this is like a thing. I love that my dad's behind it. Because I was like, OK, Gen Z, you can have this one. But my dad's, I guess, a boomer technically, right?

So I mean, he's behind it. OK. You know, I'm fine. There's something for everyone. Something for everyone. Something for everyone. I'm glad everyone's excited about this. I'm excited.

So when the baby comes, everyone's going to be like, oh my God, it's the Pope, you know? All right. Well, I'm here for Pope Leo and Leo. It could possibly be. My baby could, technically the due date is a Leo's due date, but I think I'm going to get a C-section early, which would make it a cancer. So we'll see. Because I know when we thought it was a leo we like the name lion king we thought

that was a good one and but pope because you were gonna do scorpio king if it was a scorpio so that that one would have been pretty perfect but we can't do that anymore um and aquamarine people love but yeah i don't mind it for a boy but i don't know we'll see what is really switching someone suggested we take elvis's name away from her. What? Did you not see the TikTok? No. It had like a million views and someone's like, she's young enough, she won't know.

She won't pretend to. Like what? And she responds to her name. Malibu calls her Elvis, we say Elvis and she turns like, she knows her name. Let's just give it to this boy and then give her Aquamarine. I was like, I don't think that's how it works. Our baby girl is Elvis, Baby boy is pending, but. Pending is not the name.

That's a good one, actually. Pen-ding. I love the name Pen, actually, so much. I would consider it heavily. I like him again. He came back around. I'm back on the bandwagon. We finished you.

I know this is like, we've been doing you nonstop, but we finally finished it. And you were right in your prediction. I loved it. I loved, I loved her. I loved the ending. I loved the character, Bronte, actually.

I wish I could have been her. I thought she was so good. I thought she was the one to end. It's so funny. I did see a meme though. It's so funny. They're like, Joe Goldberg,

like, you know, the Eat the Rich Killer. He outsmarted like all these people and detectives and like pinned it on other people but couldn't outsmart reddit detectives he's like these four honestly fair reddit detectives are fierce they are yeah i guess okay i guess that's true then i was just like that is kind of funny how like he was like literally like this like monster that was able to like get everybody um didn't like that spoiler alert didn't like that Kate didn't die like how did she get out of that fire oh yeah I mean how yeah it was kind of a gag that was a gag

yeah and she had minimal scarring I was like okay which I get it it was a nice thing like I you know these are my scars I wear them love it but also how did you get out I don't know I um I actually loved it I loved it so much yeah and I just think again the argument I just had a little rant yesterday on my on my tiktok my tiktok yesterday was hot topics I was talking about like I was like let me talk about all these hot topics we'll never cover but but I really do hate the fact that they're like I'll stop romanticizing him meanwhile he is like completely naked for like the whole last episode of the thing. I'm like, how are we not supposed to be like, oh, he's so romantic. He's so wonderful.

You know what I mean? Because he looks so hot. Yeah. I think, well, Penn said that he wanted him to look like a deranged, like, sexual predator. So he just looked like a hot underwear model to me. Like a Hugo Boss campaign. That's why it was so contradicting because they wanted him to wear a white like a what's called white tank isn't that like a wife beater well i don't even say that anymore i don't know what the pc term is

yeah but that's but i'm saying like the white tank top is the deranged one like that's the deranged look yeah they literally to go back to that even though it's not politically correct i guess they call it a wife beater for that reason, because it's kind of a tied with people looking a little like the stand video with Eminem, like the, you know, the obsessed guy wears the white tank tops. So I agree.

Yeah. If it would have been dirty, give him a little beer belly, you know, give him a little bit like, Ooh, all of a sudden he's disgusting. Maybe pull a little of his hair out,

you know, just give him a little bit of a dustier look, but they made him look so attractive. And I was like, well, I mean, hello. You know what I mean? Like the whole thing, I just was like, okay. And I don't like true crime. I don't like violence.

Obviously, it was like kind of violent against women. Obviously, like, but again, it's like this TV show. It's like this fantasy that he would do anything for her. And I liked that he kept coming back to her, honestly, because he really loved her. was like honestly you fooled me once you fooled me twice but here I am still loving you and I was like T I really thought at the end she was going to turn and be like oh god like how can I

how can I not he loved her for all her craziness honestly that's the best that's like Moses when he loved me through all the craziness I was like wow that's the test you passed all three levels of crazy and you're still here you know I think the show had to end with Joe Goldberg So I was like, wow, that's the test. You passed all three levels of crazy and you're still here. You know?

I think the show had to end with Joe Goldberg getting some kind of punishment. I feel like it has to. But did he get punished? Because, again, sorry, I hate it when we're talking about this, but I love this show. Honestly, this might be my favorite show ever, even above Bridgerton. But at the end, he was getting those letters from the women. I know you're saying as a comment on society, it's like the problem is you but like i was just telling moses at the end of it i was like he's actually gonna get more women than ever it's like look at all the people in prison like the menendez brothers even like scott peterson like all those people

they get so many women in prison like yeah that was that was the point of the ending being like so he gets more he's gonna have so many women to like choose from and fall in love with i think there'll be another season like this is the perfect like you know he falls in love with somebody through letters he escapes prison because he's smart enough to escape prison he's that kind of guy he is smart he's smart like good looking talented he's and he doesn't feel like he's been punished at all like he's just in another setting in another cage now that's true there's people around, so as long as he can manipulate... He's going to get so ripped, too, in prison. He's going to be like, But he doesn't have a penis, so he can't...

Did it get shot off completely? Penn confirmed, yes. Interesting. I think Penn's just rewriting some of these things, because also he'd be like, he's this. Yeah, he's like, actually, this is happening. Honestly, girls don't care. You know, I wouldn't care. When you look like like that you're just kind of like whatever

strap it on yes period Adam and Eve sponsor next week I love it yes that is it oh my god no he right well he wanted to do sex scenes I guess for the next season like he never wanted to do that's why yeah

my qualm too I kind of wish it had more of the trial, like, as leading up to him getting in jail. Because we kind of lose the characters that they bring back. Yes. Like, God, I'm forgetting their names. Marianne. Marianne and Nadia. Nadia.

Yeah, like, they come in for a little bit, then we lose them. But it would have been powerful if they, like, testified and were, like, part of the reason why he was locked up. Like, they should have showed the women that survived Joe, like, be the reason he got locked up. That's the truth. They did that, though. They did. When he was in the cage in the basement, that was the trial. They all came.

They all testified to him. So they did show that in a way that wasn't. Very little. Not Marianne more so. Nadia had, like, I was, like, I kind of forgot her character. I forgot what happened. I'm, like all testified to him. So they did show that in a way that wasn't. Very little. Not, Marianne more so. Nadia had like, I was like, I kind of forgot her character.

I forgot what happened. I'm like, she gave nothing. Marianne came and was like, pissed. But I agree with you. I also was like, I think Moses pointed this out too.

It was like, they just left Kate. They're like, all right, bye Kate. Kate's like, I'm gonna do this myself. I'm like,

bye. It's like, why did they stay? Yeah. Like you can't trust her. I mean, there was a lot of plot holes, but I didn't mind it.

I liked the romanticizing of all of it. I liked, I loved Bronte. He has a type. I mean, was a lot of plot holes but I didn't mind it I liked the romanticizing of all of it I liked um I loved Bronte he has a type I mean they all look the same to me when people are like

oh she I don't know when they're talking about the way she looks I'm like they all kind of look similar people were so mean yeah they were like oh she's like not hot

enough or something like people were spamming her comments on Instagram like y'all are deranged like the character to me was kind of annoying just because she was so

I get it she was like the archetype of what Jo would fall for like the literary like quirky girl yeah with like me, was kind of annoying just because she was so, I get it, she was like the archetype of what Jo would fall for, like the literary, like, quirky girl. Yeah. With, like, because it was kind of like a mix of all the girls that he's been with, you know? Like, working at the bookstore, going to school, like, being into literature, then with love when it's like, I wolf you, and then she's like, this girl's doing the chow mein, like,

slurping it with him. Oh, that was, couldn't get past that. Couldn't get past that. I was like, do not kiss me with those chow mein. I think she was trying to be a mix of all of them. Yeah. The wolf you, I forgot. That was so cringe, too.

Okay, the cringey, I did see that. The, like, Gen Z slang. Yes, it was very cringe. Yeah. There was one they used in this one that was so bad. He held her, like, he's like, are you a baddie? I was like, ooh. I was like, okay, joke over.

And the way she describes her, Bronte describes herself, too. She uses a lot of, like, Gen Z slang, like, mixed in there. I was like, okay, Joe Wilbur. And the way she describes her, Bronte describes herself, too. She uses a lot of Gen Z slang mixed in there. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, that part. I guess they're trying to adapt, but not working for that. But. All right. We're done talking.

I'm sorry. I know we've stretched it out so long. I just was like, I really do love that show. I was like, damn, the show is so good. I loved it. I love this. The last season, I think, was my favorite. I know. Hot take it. I love this. The last season, I think, was my favorite. I know.

Hot take. No one else agreed. It was a hot take. But, you know, I love that you stand by it. I stand by it. I'm like, get me on Ozempic. I want to be the next girl. You know what I mean?

I need to get down to that 100-pound mark so he can drag me into the cage. But it was, I loved it. Pambazza, I love you, too. I just love you. He also seems so supportive supportive his wife seems so supportive I started going to her Instagram and she was like everyone go stream you

which I thought was so sweet it's like oh my gosh like your husband's making out with all these like gorgeous women and you're like go stream it that's my thing he used her music in the soundtrack too

this past season Domino's music wait really yeah I forgot what episode but he used one of her songs in it see that's real love he's like a real life Joe Goldberg

he's like here you go I would love hopefully not well we're watching Righteous Gemstones well we're done watching Righteous Gemstones I've made it six episodes

I can't have you started have you watched it no I won't be it's for men it's literally written for men it's just a bunch of

literally men's penises every episode but comedic it's not supposed to be sexy or hot it's always just like men naked Walton literally men's penises every episode but comedic it's not supposed to be sexy or hot it's always just like men naked walton goggins is penises in there i was like i fell asleep shout out to my husband who literally was like you should re-watch the first part of this episode and i was like no it's fine i don't like this show he's like i don't know walton goggins

in a bathtub literally i don't know i guess we can talk ball sack penis just everything most of the things I don't think it's real I think it's it's real it was it looked kind of like yours thank you

it really did thank you but it wasn't like it was nice it was perfect it wasn't like this like

crazy comedic like length to it it was too perfect like oh wow okay too perfect what if this is real penis you think we'd feel so happy

and it makes sense that he would have like that perfect bde you know what i mean like because it is something about him and so when i saw it, it looked very real to me. And I did like that one because all the other penises they show in this show, I mean, it makes me never want to look at another penis. Not in a bad way. They just make it in a very unflattering. There's always an

unflattering situation of being humiliated. Like they find the people who broke into the thing and they make them take off their pants. The whole show starts off with basically the guy having a sex tape who's the main guy i forget is danny mcbride is that i don't know i have no idea somebody that works with walton goggins a lot but he's like naked that's the whole point of the show a lot of like cum jokes can i say i don't know what i can say like i don't know just a lot of man humor moses even it's the show

for moses really because he knew like one of the memes not for me i just i just recognize a meme there there was like goth dancing he's like oh it's this meme and he knew there one of the memes of the goth. It's not for me. I just recognized a meme there. There was like goths dancing. He's like, ooh, it's this meme. And he knew it was like a meme they were recreating. I was like, all right. I don't know. I didn't get any of it. I don't get it.

It's not for me. People like it. Bad show. I tried to watch it for Walton Goggins. Even that can't save it for me. No, because it's like taking Reno 911 and putting a ton of budget into it. And then it's not the same anymore.

You know, it's either like low budget, funny, or there's not like there's too much and not enough. That part, because I love John Goodman. Oh my God, love him. Like to see him on a show, I was like, okay, love him. Love Adam Devine. Like love him. Like I truly like love everyone in this show.

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And I love the idea. Like, I love Tammy Faye Baker. Like, I love you, Jesus. Hello. I wrote, like, I love the idea. I don't know. We watched Hacks right after, and we were laughing out loud. Oh, Hacks is so funny.

So much more simple, so much more, but the writing, the jokes were funny. Well, I guess it's meant for us that makes sense I think I think the gem zone is very and then I put that on my TikTok

and someone's like it's a parody of like men's humor and I'm like I get it I think Jeff said he likes that show so

makes sense I think that speaks volumes Jeff and Irene quit in Tarantino what I'm like through Patreon by the way which Patreon is like I'm the through Patreon by the way

which Patreon is like I'm the golden child of Patreon I don't understand we spy I spy all weekend about this

even Mo's like they probably suggested it and he's like no what the hell I was like so

I got to interview Roger Avery and Quentin Tarantino to promote the video archives podcast I'm like, so, I got to interview Roger Avery and Quentin Tarantino to promote the Video Archives podcast. I'm like, what? I mean, while your Patreon name is Trish Tarantino. That was before we changed it.

It was always Mrs. Tarantino, Trisha Tarantino. Oh, my God. I had a little spiral over that. I'm like, damn it, Jeff Wittek. I'm sure if we turned out to, I don't know that disconnect. You gotta reach out for a statement. Oh my God. I give up.

I'm just like. Oh my God, that is so funny. Jeff Wittek would like Righteous Gemstones. That's for sure. He does, yes. It was. He was here when he said he loves that show. Really?

Yes. What did I say? I was like, I probably didn't know what he was talking about I was like alright it's just so guy humor we were talking about this I think you were talking about how Joe Rogan early on would always talk about guys being naked and it's like

it's always like a very straight guy thing I remember this too like vlog squad days but even like high school like they would always talk about like seeing each other like helicopter penis and stuff like that. Like it's a very room humor. Yeah. But like, yes. But also they would see, like, I remember, I think it was David's bit.

That's very public. And his videos would be like, Jonah, pull your pants down. So people could like, just like laugh at your penis. He would do that to everyone. Just like flash people. And I was like, what is this humor? Like, so it's like, I get it. Like, but also I don't get it because like, what is this humor like so it's like I get it like but also I don't get it because like what is the

joke just like here's a penis but also you're all men you're doing it for each other really so I was like this is I really think it's for the closeted men that's crazy all of them Joe Rogan I think there's like one

closeted person that really wants to see and then they create a humor around it they all have the humor I don't think everyone like really gets the humor

but everyone's like oh I guess this is what guys do no in the vlog everybody would be like look at Jonah's penis have you seen Jonah's penis I was like

what is the obsession but they laugh at everything there it's not that's what I'm saying no but that particular joke was everywhere and it's giving me

gemstone vibes where I kept seeing every you left for one and all of a sudden there was like six penises on screen and I'm like what the hell is happening and it's not cute. And it's giving me gemstone vibes. I kept seeing every, you left for one. And all of a sudden there was like six penises on screen. And I'm like, what the hell is happening? And it's not cute white lotus.

It's not sexy. It's not anything. It's just like, it's like a Jonah type or like the Nick type person standing there with like their, you know, it's a flaccid penis and you can barely see it because of the belly and you know, all this stuff like that. It's very, very odd. I feel like straight guys laugh at small penises or huge penises. For some reason, they think it's like silly.

I don't know. Because when you have a huge penis, it's like, oh my God. Look at that thing. Yeah. Swing and that thing. It's also very. Crazy, but. I don't know.

This is why I say we're all a little gay. That's what I'm saying. All the way. All the way. You can't use it that I'm sorry if you're a straight guy and you're just so excited

about showing a penis to someone like I think you might have a little and they just don't want to embrace or talk about whatever that's their like humor but

very weird I have to skip I have to stop officially watching Righteous Gemstones which I'm really sad but I thought about that because you said

Penn used Domino's song and I was like why did they not use I Love You Jesus in this it would have been perfect it would have been such a perfect song used Domino's song and I was like, why did they not use I Love You Jesus in this? It would have been perfect. It would have been such a perfect song, but whatever. It's over now.

I think save it for a better show. Love that. Megan, three. I gotta follow up with Megan. I think it's supposed to be next week. I don't know. It was supposed to be this week and now I think it's next week.

I have a cosplay being made for it. Oh my God, it works. It better happen. Yeah, I think we might have to go somewhere. I'm so excited. We'll see. Yeah, I'm excited too. So it better happen. Yeah. I think we might have to go somewhere. Oh, I'm so excited. We'll see. Yeah, I'm excited too.

All right. All that. That's like just so much to catch up on. I know. You had an exciting week though. It was exciting. Yeah. I did feel like the need to comment on so many things on social media, on the TikTok,

on everything. I was like, let me just comment stuff again that like no one really cares about. But I was like, let me just weigh in on this. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait till Hot Topics. I had to say it all right then and there my big life update actually a little update well um i got labubus i'm fully labubu pilled um so i i've succumbed i've succumbed to and let me tell you actually tying it back to jewel sparkles it's actually her that was the final influence because she opened up labubus with anya nerve who is the

winner of drag race obviously and when anya opened that labubu she was more excited about that than winning drag race she was screaming in the store she was so happy was it a surprise or she like it was like the mystery box and she was like i really want this colored one and the one that she wanted she opened and she looked the pure joy on her face i was like and i was depressed at the time i was watching this and i was like i want to feel that i want to feel that that like inspiration that happiness that pure joy and i went on facebook marketplace and i found a box of the boo-boos and i bought it in a box yes a box and i bought them in it was like a drug deal it was like in a random mall parking lot he sent me a photo of like his view from his car and i would like find out where he was did you go by yourself by myself yeah gotta be careful yeah honestly that's the way

i go that's the way i go for the boo-boos that's a story was he by himself yeah he was by himself and he just had a box of the boo-boos he had a box of the boo-boos yeah in his car three digits on it yeah three digits but it wasn't that much more. I think there were 33 each. And they sell for like 25. So yeah, I felt not terrible about it. And there's just no way. There's the Jimmies of the world who are like on the TikTok lives.

They're at PopMart. They have their notifications on. They're getting them legitimately. There's the rest of us that are just trying to, you know, doing what we can. You know, I don't have the strength to compete in the Labooboo market. I would go on StockX and buy a $300 Labooboo. I can't either. I'm just like, I don't know.

It's a lot. It's hard. But I understand because I see it on TikTok Live all the time. So are they not available? Like, you're just going to go and buy it on TikTok Live? That's the whole lore that Jimmy does. He sits on there all day looking for them. Yes, because they drop them randomly and they sell out like literally instantly.

And then the stores, like each individual store has their own like Instagram account and they'll post when they stock them. And you have to buy them online to pick up in the store. So you can't even just like walk into a pop mart and like pick up a Labubu. You have to like put in a lot of work to get them. Oh, I hide my Labubus from my daughters. I feel a little sad. I know they would think they were cute, but there'd be nail work to get them. Oh, I hide my Labubus from my daughters. I feel a little sad. I know they would think they were cute,

but there'd be nail polish all over them. So I was like, I need to hide these at all costs. But Pop Mart, we love a Labubu. They did send me a Labubu. They sent me a care package. They sent me a new Labubu. But if there's Labubus to be had, there's like a new collection coming out all the time.

And we're down for the, I love a Labubu too. I am someone that's like, oh, it's too like trendy. But I'm someone who likes to be in the craze, because not like it because I'm not like a little boo boo enthusiast to the extreme but I like them I think they're cute I'm into it I do buy them uh maybe I should just show them too I guess I should start being trendy with them too mine are all bedazzled Jimmy said that he thinks they're real yeah he was telling me that too you can scan the bar the QR code on them I found yeah he said they thinks they're real I have another fancy one upstairs in a Chanel outfit too but

they're like little bling ones but I have regular ones. They do look real. Okay well I'm glad I have a real Labubu. I do love them. I think they're cute. I gotta put them on my bag. Do you have them on your bag? No. I when I see people like I saw a straight couple at the mall and this was before I bought the box and I was like really

just wanting a Labubu and I saw them at the mall and they were like they had like six. They had, one girl had hers on her purse. Her boyfriend had them like on his crossbody. And I literally had the primal instinct to rob them. I had the primal urge. I was like, there was a split second and my brain was like, take them. And I was like, I had to like tell myself, no, that that's not okay.

Which kind of is a little scary. But I was like, I had the urge to rob them of the Labubu. So I'm keeping mine in the safety of my home. Yes. Yeah. That's actually a very good point. Because, yeah, Jimmy wore his out. Yeah.

I would rob him, too. He almost lost his Labubu at Chili's, he said. Yeah. It fell off his bag at Chili's. Well, he is taking pictures of them everywhere with all the pizzas and the chips. Yeah. He's taking them around town. Yeah. He's taking them out. But with all the pizzas and the chips. Yeah, he's taking them around town. Yeah, he's taking them out.

But mine will not be seeing the light of day. Wow. My little boo-boo. I'm torn. I do get torn with that because it's like, yes, they're meant to be seen. But you love a collector.

You love to just collect. Yes, yeah. But then I always think like, in moves and stuff, I always lose my, like, damn, I wish I would have used them at one point. Like stickers.

I used to collect stickers and I lost all my sticker collections. I'm like, I should just put them on my freaking binder. You know, but I was like, I'm going to save these for something. And then you'd like lose them and then you're like, oh, what the hell happened? Well, I should just put them on my freaking binder. You know, but I was like, I'm going to save these for something. And then you like lose them

and then you're like, oh, what the hell happened? Well, I'm a little more on it. You have so many possessions. Yes. But we're getting

an organizer next Wednesday. It's coming. It's happening. I'm so excited. We have, we have people organizing. It's going to be so good. They're so excited about it too.

When organizers come to our house, I'm always like apologizing. I think you're an organizer's dream because there's so much stuff. Like even the thought of it like makes, gives me a rush. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see you. Yeah, no, I'm always like apologizing. I think you're an organizer's dream because there's so much stuff. Like even the thought of it like makes gives me a rush. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see you. Yeah, no, I'm not even an organizer. The more it's not organized, the more excited they

get because they know the turnaround they can, you know, the before and after. Very dramatic. Like they opened our pantry, they're like literally, they were like this. Yes. And you have the space. You have all this like space to work with. That's what they said. They go in the kitchen like, oh, you have lots of space. You have all this, like, space to work with. Yes.

That's what they said. They'd go in the kitchen, like, oh, you have lots of space. You just don't use it. It's like, perfect. Like, I can't. It'll be the best money ever spent. I'm so excited about it. They did give me, like, an influencer rate.

They're like, if you want to do, like, before and afters with us. I was like, yeah, give me an influencer rate all day long, you know? So I'm very excited. There'll be a big influx on Poshmart. Yes, that's true. No, I can't wait for that. Your mom's going to be freaking busy. She'll be here with them. She'll be like, I'm going to come too.

So she can go through all this stuff. I'm like, just take it all. I don't care. Oh, I'm so excited. I'd like a little yard sale. I thought about that too. A little estate sale. A little pop-up shop. That'd be cute. Maybe we'll do that because there's so much. I'm going to be looking. What's in here? Put it in a nice little pile that's actually a good idea okay yeah okay we'll do that work take whatever you want honestly that's why when people even come to the

house they want something i'm like take it take it like i just i don't know how this stuff comes in and i feel like i've been doing a good job not even buying things however people like pop mart we love but pop mart sends like 5 000 toys like, oh my God, we have all these toys. I did keep a lot of them. I have these little crying babies they sent me. Oh, yeah. Those are cute. Argelina started collecting those, I think.

She posted on her Instagram story. Really? What are those? Like little cry babies or something? Yeah. They're so cute. I'm going to put mine in my little crock bag. That little astronaut is a hit.

Everyone loves our little pink astronaut in our house. So we love it, Pop Mart. But there's other companies that send PR Jimmy Johns in our house and I was like there's Jimmy Johns hats and cups that's a Moses PR thing I was like

what's all these Jimmy Johns things but yeah I get rid of stuff and yet stuff keeps coming in but it's okay

organize it organize it that part and everyone's excited to organize but yeah alright well

where did we go where were we talking about La Boo Boo organization oh that was your one life update was your second life update that was my big life update i did make a lit i have like a spreadsheet of like treats and they had the booboo sheet the booboo slide is kind of big there's one that has glasses i feel like i need because i have glasses so wait what do you mean treats you made a slide of treats yeah because i don't like to buy like a lot of things at once but i make like a list list of things I want to get

at some point. So I have a slide that's like Laboo Boo. Oh, you want one with glasses? How come you don't speak up for the glasses community more often? I never hear you talk about that. Do glasses community need representation? Yes, the visually impaired. The visually impaired need representation. You never talk about it, but you love things with glasses

on it. Like you just said Laboo Boo. I do, because I see myself in them. Oh, so that's what I'm saying. How come you don't talk about it more? I guess I'll have to speak out and use my platform for good. I always shop. I feel like I'd be talking about my glasses non-stop. When I feel them on my face, I'd be talking about my glasses. I think because I literally just have them at least 18 hours

a day, every day. Wow. And it doesn't bother you? No, I love glasses. I don't like contacts. I don't like the idea of lasik i feel like my head is big too so anything to distract i'm like work same i love the glasses for that reason too but they bother me after like i mean this part they bother me this part and i and i love i have so many glasses and i need them too i'm also like i can't see i'm also visually impaired but um they bother me after a while they just like sweat you know you know, right here. They get a little sweaty.

They mess up my makeup. I don't know. Just having them on my face. Like even smiling, talking. They move when you eat. Like I don't know. They're not comfy. They do get smudged a lot.

Yeah. I hope. Maybe if I speak out about my glasses more, I'll inspire you to wear yours. I know. That's what I'm saying. You should talk about it more. I never see you rubbing them. You know, I love when people do that. When they like rub their glasses and clean them.

I never see you do that. I like. It's so funny. that, when they rub their glasses and clean them. I never see you do that. It's so funny. We make them not a part of your life, but it's fine. I don't know why you don't, though. I feel so good. You're right. I will. I will definitely speak out about it more.

I carry a little chamois with me all the time. Oh, you do? Yeah, it's in my backpack, so I just always clean them. Okay. I love when Moses wears his, but same thing with him. You never wear them that often, but when you do them, I was like, wow, look at those glasses. You wore them on the music video

set though yeah oh we can finally show that picture of you three with the glasses oh yeah Jimmy

did you see it you saw the picture yeah I sent it and Jimmy's like Oscar looks like he's posing like an Oscar did you see that

with the Oscar statue it was cute you look very small they all look very similar for some reason you all look so much like each other I don't know what it was

the hair, the glasses but you all look very similar it was very cute I love it show, but you all looked very similar. It was very cute. I love it. Show all the behind the scenes to me. There's so many good ones. I'll send you guys the photos too and the Dropbox link.

I saw Stitch was at the Santa Monica Pier too in his little pink car. Damn, I didn't see him out there. Holly sent it to me and I was like, how do we not know where he's going to be? Like, I want to see this little guy. We're going to have a Stitch at our birthday party. We did. We went back

and forth. Moses was very much like, I don't know. They can be kind of scary. I was like, no, she loves those little animals. So there's a stitch. And it's apparently there's a real life Lilo. We haven't seen what the Lilo looks like, but it's fine. Whatever the Lilo is, it's fine. As long as it's not a white person. Well, I guess we should probably verify that it's like

accurate. Yeah. Okay. Whatever it is, it's like, accurate. Okay. Whatever it is, it's going to be dubious for sure. That is not true. They're going to be good. A real life size Stitch is just not, like the whole point is like,

he's a little cute thing. I can see him. Yeah, he is a big one. He has a big Stitch. It's cute. Well, they have like, when Pokemon has like, Pikachu go out, it's cute though,

because it is like, the proportions are, make him look small small because he has like a huge belly and tiny little feet. So proportionally he does look little even though he's kind of big.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. I think it's going to be cute. I think he can have a Lilo and Stitch party. You know what I mean? So I think it'll be cute. We are going back

and forth with it. Surprisingly Elvis's birthday is less than mine. That was so crazy. I don't know. Because Elvis we have so much. We have likele whip lay making hula dancers like we have all these like people coming but it's still the food at your birthday was literally like a wedding yeah budget like yeah i know moses was like how is this it's fine we'll be on the phone i'm like

stop stop stop it's fine it's fine it's fine and i never have birthdays this was my first birthday party it's your birthday you work so hard so it's not thanks that's how I felt I was like you know what we did we're doing this tour this year I'll probably go back to like having no friends

in a year but I see a lot of people now and I like to see them and they're fun and it's a thing not that they're not always there I'm no bad friend I'm the one who like

is like I'm tired I can't see anyone but I think everyone who you're around right now is also like that which helps yes oh no it's the best

that's why they get it. We all get it. And then when we see each other, it's fun. It's great. Yes, exactly. We all are in the same boat. Yeah. Also, they're pregnant and then three kids.

But when she does have time, she usually schedules it to work. Yeah, that's true. And then she schedules the people she loves to work with. And that's, you know. That is true. I don't know. It's not like we're hanging out with people and not invite those people you know what i mean like that's our hangout yeah and literally everyone there but you don't work with somebody you don't love

like there's nobody around that you don't like really really love and want to be around even this i always feel like this is like a fun time because i'm we're done that was fun and then i just go up i'm like okay it's like work but like not it's like yeah so much work. It's like, yeah, it's work, but also hanging out. Yeah, it is. It's like, to me, it's very, I know I always say this, but it feels like the old Shane days where I'm just like, oh my God, we're just gossiping, but being cute and nice. Yeah. You're like politically correct, which I love, you know.

You're not mean and suck, which I mean, we loved a mean era for sure, but I'm not in the mean era. I'm in the nice era. Taught you dumb as hell. Yeah. That was your mean era. Happy six years to Bi Sister. Yes! Oh my god. Time and place.

Bi Sister turned six. I think Tyler Oakley was like, should I watch this? I was like, so random. Okay. Been there, done that. Yeah. I love that someone, who is it? PopCube? Someone tweets about it. PopCube and PopBase. Everyone was covering the six year anniversary of Bi Sister. It really was herstoric, really. Yeah.

The beginning of the end for the beauty YouTubers. Yeah, she's trying to end it. Yeah. Where's she now? She kind of came back and then she kind of went away again.

I think she's still at it. She's still posting. I never see her on live. I never see videos. I don't know if she's doing TikTok live as much anymore. She really was on it. She's selling

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This is a paid advertisement. Thank you so much to Morgan & Morgan for sponsoring today's episode. That was crazy. If you, I know, I know we're talking about James in a minute, but like, if you think about all the times, like, James has like kind of been awful. Like, it's crazy how

many times, and I'm not trying to be like that person to be like, oh my god, like, when will he finally be canceled, whatever, but it's just like, crazy crazy it's like every couple years if I had a nickel for every time James Charles made a response showing screenshots from a text message conversation I'd probably have like 45 cents yeah good people said that they're like everyone liked his apology because he's been apologizing his whole life he's like he has it down to a t and it's like I mean it's like not funny but like funny you know because it's like, he has it down to a T. And it's like, I mean, it's like not funny, but like funny, you know? Because it's like, what the hell? You're just reminded

of it. I'm like, damn, where did I hear this before? Where did I see this? I think I've seen this film before. That's what it plays in my head when I see this. I'm like, it's actually wild. I don't, I guess not for me to get, but I'm also like,

what? you know and it's always like a collective every couple years it's like oh my god this person was awful this person was this

and he's always like I didn't know I didn't know anyways we can get more into it later or now I don't even know what time it is

oh okay wow we're cooking I know we are cooking we're speeding along can we get into it now? yes we can because I don't know

yeah because might as well it's only kind of the topic of conversation but yeah James Charles responded to the Evan Johnson Yes, we can. Get that out. Yeah, because might as well. It's only kind of the topic of conversation. But yeah, James Charles responded to the Evan Johnson relationship allegations a couple hours after Kayla announced that she won her case against Evan. This was right after we filmed. Yes, literally right.

I got home and then I saw it. Yes, because we saw that she had won and we did the little update. And we're like, great. The James Charles thing was when we got home yes and it was um a 10 minute tiktok and i knew that 10 minutes is gonna be fierce um but yeah he posted it on may 7th he said i do not support evan johnson in any way shape or form and let me make that effing clear he said that he did have a brief uh friendship with evan but they never had a sexual relationship. He said, Evan Johnson and I did not in any way, shape or form have a sexual relationship.

We did not have sex while he was here. And I did not under any circumstances pay Evan Johnson for sexual favors. He went on to say, I don't support him. I don't support violence against women. And I sure as hell don't support the disgusting, deplorable, violent, heinous acts that he committed against Kayla Malik behind closed doors and he said that kayla has been unwilling to have a conversation with him and he said that frankly i don't effing blame her because after i watched a laughable interview between be better and zach sellers i wouldn't want to have a conversation with me either if i was being fed complete bull lies and misinformation from the person whose only source of information is the same man who lied to and abused me for nine months straight Oh my God.

That's like crazy that he like blames Be Better for Kayla not talking to him. Because it's like just the admission of him, the text he showed to be like gotcha, whatever. It was like literally if you said to me, right, I break up with Moses, whatever. Can I have him now? I think that's the first. That's the first reason I'm not talking to you like what do you mean second of all he admits evan was really depressed so he came out to stay what do you mean that is why and there's probably so much more we don't know so for him to be like yeah she was fed lies you're the one that was being awful that was the most shocking thing to me is him trying to be like look i was this

good person look at our text messages i'm like you're just showing how awful you were as a friend that's why i was confused about everyone like standing again because i'm like okay yes i obviously with like zach and like the be better interview and stuff there's a whole lot of allegations there um about like the relationship between james and evan honestly i don't even need that like let's just go based off what like james presents okay you present a screenshot of your conversation with your friend kayla who yes is she typing like a 20 year old girl yes like she's not on the stand like writing her her testimony about like the serious stuff that she went through she's obviously talking to a it's a 20 year old girl talking to her friend.

So she is talking like casually about it in her tone, but she still uses the words like abuse, manipulation. She talks about how happy she is to be free of him. Yeah. So your first response being, can I have him now? And then you trying to tell us like, oh, it's just a joke. Like that I know that wasn't the best thing. No, that says a lot about your character That's the first thing you think of and then also it's it's a joke. It's supposed to be just be a joke, but then the second He makes Evan makes contact with you you invite him to stay in your home

So how is that a joke if you are also inviting him over? It doesn't matter what you two did in your home i'm not even saying that i i totally i can believe you james about that like maybe you didn't have sex or anything but the fact that you acted on can i have him now by inviting him into your home and then also he was like and i just wasn't that close with kayla like trying to explain so you weren't that close with you weren't that close with Kayla, but you only know Evan because of Kayla. Because Evan is only known on TikTok because he was the plus one of Kayla. Right. So how are you not that close with Kayla, but you're close enough with Evan to invite him into your home to stay with you for a weekend? Huh?

I know. That, to me, I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, just what he admits is, like, my way. Yes, just what we see, yes. And the way he presents it, that's the manipulative part. It's just like, and that's why people are like, oh, my God, we get it now. We love, he wasn't that close.

He was, he doesn't support him. I'm like, so, too little, too late. Like, you obviously did. You obviously, you know, it's, and she was your friend. She was a friend at some point. It's like, how are you not believing her? How are you not seeing all this stuff? And your first reaction is to be like, yeah, come stay at my house after, like, all of that.

To him, yeah. And also, it's like, the whole conversation between Kayla and James, like, in that screenshot that James showed us. So, the one that you admit to, like, that alone doesn't make you look good. And I feel like the internet has, like, a weird, like, as long, the last person to speak and the last person to speak authoritatively, like, people just believe. I'm like, is anyone pausing to read the screenshot? Like, all because James can sit there and Jamesify his explanation of the screenshot. You can read it for yourself and see the words abuse, manipulation, and James saying, can I have him now? Like, it is still diabolical.

I'm sure if Kayla came out with, like, more text messages, more background. I'm sure there's more explanation. I'm sure there's a reason she's not acknowledging him, not talking to him. Like, I'm sure there Kayla came out with like more text messages, more background, I'm sure there's more explanation. I'm sure there's a reason she's not acknowledging him, not talking to him. Like I'm sure there's like way more stuff. Also the fact that she's 20 and he's 26. I mean it's also just like okay the balance of there. But it is but you're very right on that. It's like very

not to like call it drama but it's very bi sister because it was flip-flopping. It was like everyone's on James' side and then Tati comes back and everyone's on Tati's side. And then because like you said it's like the last person to speak. And if she doesn't speak it's like okay well that's side. And then – because like you said, it's like the last person to speak. And if she doesn't speak, it's like, okay, well, that's it. That's it. Bottom line was James.

He acknowledged it. That's it. But I am truly shocked because I'm not going to say like he deserves to be canceled forever. But like clearly pattern behavior, not a great person in these situations. And it's kind of crazy how people don't see that at least or can just forgive so easily i'm not the person to just like throw the hammer and be like that's the nlbl but it is crazy how people just flip so quickly yeah like oh okay he acknowledged i was like but okay also acknowledging something when you're not acknowledging it when you're also not like you

know what this was like yeah i should have like i don't know it's very kayla she was focusing on the real problem which is evan putting him behind bars because he's scared you know it's very kayla she was focusing on the real problem which is evan putting him behind bars because she's scared you know there's this person committed crimes so she doesn't need to talk about james right now but that's not the issue that's not at court that's not the way i'm gonna put him behind bars and she got out of court she won let her be for a moment why are you posting the video immediately after that like that's so true like suddenly you're shifting all the conversation back to you again. Before never saying anything. Like you should have said it earlier.

And then now it's like that happened. Everyone's on like Kayla's side, obviously. I get why he had to like obviously make a statement because it has, and I guess in a way make it about himself. He could have, I guess, waited a little bit longer. But I thought it was funny too. He was like, out of respect for Kayla, I promised her that I wouldn't say anything until she got justice.

But I was like, you just decided to make that promise. You admitted herself. You never talked to her. And like she showed me the screenshot of their conversation. She never responded. So he just took it upon himself to promise, but she never asked. You never needed to. Like you could have made a statement just denouncing Evan. So much earlier. so he just took it upon himself to promise but she never asked you never needed to like you

could have made a statement just denouncing evan so much earlier yeah i don't know why you had to wait for her to get justice like probably to see the outcome i'm like how in what world would a james charles statement denouncing evan johnson have been used by like the public defender in this court case to be like oh no like this is a loophole there's no way just denouncing evan johnson have been used by like the public defender in this court case to be like oh no like this is a loophole there's no way just denouncing him and saying you support kelly you don't stand with evan that that would have been what makes um evan slip through the cracks and get free like and realistically well in my limited judicial knowledge i'm there's nothing i've heard of where that happens no and kayla's been talking about it her sister's been

talking about it like everyone's been talking about this non-stop and i think that's the reason it got to court you know because like everyone's talking about it and like encouraging her so it's like if she would have had support from james earlier on i'm sure would have been much better than now he definitely waited till after to hear the outcome of it all and yeah and also for the king of receipts how do you have no receipts showing their friendship with evan like okay you want us to all believe everything that you were just being a supportive friend or that he manipulated you and stuff.

Well, you're all about a receipt. Then where are the receipts documenting your exchanges with Evan? Or are they on Vanishmo? I'm just asking the question. Were they on Vanishmo on Instagram or did they exist? Like, that's really odd to me. Like, we're supposed to just take your word for it that your relationship was just purely you were manipulated by him and just wanted to help him out because it's always

the same story again we've i think i i was never following james like this but the stuff that we have follow like the drama get in the the dinners everything that it's always like oh they manipulated me they did this and i'm like but also we've seen him manipulate us like just with these like messages and we're also like what did you first i was watching i was like damn this is all messed up but then i was like then i started thinking about i'm like wait but the text message like you she said that she was he was abusive towards her i know and you still wanted to hang out with him like yes so laughed it off yeah it just doesn't fly there's always a victim of younger men those younger men they always get him every time and he's such a victim of them it's such a pattern

and it's like actually so annoying and it's so like crazy i guess he just has like young fans because it's just like over and over again and it's like again you just think i think we talked about this before you think it happens once or twice and you would think like, okay, stay away from young guys, right? Especially like, I mean, 21, again, we always talk about this, 21, 26 is like a big difference, but also like just stay away from them. Like you obviously have an issue, like you're not handling it as a 26 year old should. And it's like, you have an issue with these young guys.

Like someone can't control themselves, which I'm thinking James. It's like, if you really had to invite this person out, like there's so many men out there. There's so many boys, I guess. There's so many like young guys out there. Like why invite this one out that your friend was like, he's awful. He's the worst. Like there's so many. And it's like something he just can't control.

I don't know what it is about James. Like he like can't control himself around these young guys. And again, whatever it is, sexual friendship, whatever, it's like for somehow you're always the victim of it then. It's like, in what world? I just, it makes me so upset and it just keeps happening. And I'm like, I don't know, like you lose sympathy. Cause at first I'm like, okay, maybe, you know, these straight guys, whatever, like he, they, they egg him on, whatever. But then it's like you see – we've seen the Snapchats he's had with, you know, very young guys.

The way he is with them too, it's like – I mean, take no blame, take no accountability. And it's like at your 26-year-old. It's crazy he's 26 because in my head I think of him as like 19 because he acts so juvenile. Like, it's actually so crazy that he's 26. Like, get some help. Like, just get some help in this category. Like go cold turkey. Like we talked about this before. It's like, you know, you get into these situations, like

don't get into them again. Like the Crystal Lea is up at all. You know, it seems like they changed because it's like, okay, you got caught and you did something gross. Like learn from that and stop doing it. Even if it's just like, I got caught. I shouldn't do that anymore. You think James would be that. Even though in your head it should be like, let me learn from this. Let me see where I'm wrong. At least, at the very least, in the public eye, don't you want to be like, maybe I shouldn't be messing with young guys anymore. Especially ones that are related to like my friends and stuff. And like you said, the vanish mode.

Who was it? I don't know if Zach Sellers is like the most reliable source. I know what I'm saying. I feel like every guy directly involved in this is, I'm like. Yeah. Yeah. Someone's a little. Yeah.

But on that note you know he is very much like i think he said like it was vanished mode which what when you said you were asking the question it's like probably that but also why are you on vanished mode you know what i mean i always think that's like so sus i don't know it's like going asking people for their snapchats and stuff it's like something's sus with this. Yeah. And he just like can't be a victim all the time. Kind of funny because James also in one of – he showed like the DMs between him and Zach. He also calls Evan like dumb.

He's like, oh, we know Evan can't talk for himself or whatever. Like he'll get himself into trouble. So he implies that Evan's really dumb. So James Charles was manipulated by just like a really dumb 20-year-old. And James is not dumb. No, he's really smart.an's really dumb so james charles was manipulated by just like a really dumb 20 year old right and james is not dumb so he's really smart he's really smart and mine too like i all our text messages are still there unless he deletes them or whatever but the dms he had sent me you know it's very convincing where he's like you don't know all the facts you don't know this so i'm like oh my gosh like you're right like i'm i'm sorry you went through

that because there was a point in drama getting where i did feel sorry for him because i think tati also kind of like whatever and it like even on me i'm like oh i don't care like i'm I'm sorry you went through that because there was a point in drama getting where I did feel sorry for him because I think Tati also kind of like whatever and it like even on me I'm like oh I don't care like I'm not his fan whatever even then I'm like yeah you're right like this is kind of unfair you're right this was you know what I mean so he's very good at that it's also odd I really it's it's crazy how he is um you know back in everyone's good graces for the most part. But whatever. I definitely just, again, not even from everything else. Like, this is from what James has said and shown in the 10-minute video. Just from that alone, I look at him like, so I don't know if I could ever, like, have that empathy that sometimes.

Because I also like the drama get in stuff. He was 19. So there was an element of like, oh, he's just a kid. But now, like, that's gone. have that empathy that sometimes because i also like the drama get and stuff he was 19 so there was an element of like oh he's just a kid but now like that's gone he's a he's an adult when like talk to you and shane and jeffrey like they were the adults in that situation so like you do feel bad for the kid but now kayla is the kid you know so yeah it really yeah i really turned around and yeah i agree the lack of empathy because it's also the lack of accountability like i really we talked about this all the time i hate when people tell stories and they did nothing wrong in the story it's like how can you be like oh my god i was a or something like that you're blaming

evan oh he manipulated me you're blaming kayla i wasn't that close to you're blaming everyone but yourself it's like it's just the worst in my opinion the worst apology because it's like how can you not be like because the only thing he did wrong was that he was too kind and he was too nice. And he was trying to help somebody that seemed in trouble and might, and he knew what he's going through because he went through that. Like he built it all as such an emotional. Yeah.

Yeah, he still lied to Kayla when she called and asked, are you with them? Like, is that not enough? It's crazy. Like everything he admits to doing sucks like that shows that he kind of sucks he's just a person who does that that would be like if i was thinking about it too like how could i even like relate to it'd be like if um tana like and makoa something happened between them they broke up but then makoa who i only know of because of tana i

took makoa's side and Right, come stay with me. Yeah, we're like, let me give you advice. Like, let me show you how to deal with this. But I owe, I have no allegiance to him because I only know him because of Tana. Yeah, he'd be like, well, I wasn't that close with Tana. But it's like, doesn't matter. Like, that's how you know him. Like, it's so, yeah, exactly that.

It's very odd. He's definitely not a victim. And I hate, I hate when people complain like a victim all the time. This is like the fourth or fifth time where he's been like this, where he was manipulated. He was out like. And the problem is though, like with the people who like go and make stuff up and dramatize though too, because then you give him something to work with. Like the random people making up TikTok lives, like, oh, James paid Evans bail.

Like, don't be stupid people because then you you lose it yeah because now you give now james has an argument because people make up so much stuff and like dramatize it you don't need to because the story in and of itself is bad it is very focused on the stuff that is proven especially now that james has admitted to stuff like that stuff in and of itself is bad but then also the problem is it doesn't sound as bad because when it's like oh well there is no sex tape oh he didn't pay him for it now it sounds like less bad yeah like oh well that's better if they didn't have sex but but this is still bad people this is still bad he's everything he admitted to yeah yeah it's very you're right yeah that's right so it's not worth it It's not worth the random moment of clout.

And then James is going to try to sue you too because you're making stuff up about him paying bail and sex tapes and stuff. And that doesn't matter. Like it doesn't affect the narrative at all. It just gives him something to work with to silence people. I know. I don't know. And the original apology was like um i'm just desperate i want friends i want yeah the desperate only cuts it a couple times it's like i was desperate it's

like isn't that crazy you can classify like james charles apology that was 2019 2021 was this it was like you just like know based on the year what the apologies were you like knew it right away it's not 2019 james six year six anniversary um yeah that's i think both black hoodie dare i say right yeah that's his that's his go-to and usually usually there's one tiktok when he just cries to the camera then he deletes that and then he puts the tiktok the long one no makeup and makeup yeah it sucks james could inspire so many people there's so many people following him and he could like, just, I don't know. I think it's like a sickness maybe with these young guys. Like it's like an addiction or something. I don't know what it is. Thank you so much to Brooklyn Bedding for

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being like a queer creator, you know, like a queer femme presenting man like that's awesome like of course we i would want that like i want my heart wants to be like yes you go you know but then the stuff comes up and i'm like why does he have to be so dastardly yeah it's rough that part it is yeah it is very sad and there are people like look up to him and he can do so many like things. But I don't. I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.

I don't know either. I've kind of like given up. I've kind of given up because damn everyone loves him again. He has such a huge platform. But I'm like. James specifically. Look I'm all for. Okay.

Like if. 20s and 20s. Okay fine. I get it. Whatever. Whatever. I think James has a problem with dating these young boys. And I don't think he knows how to handle these situations.

I don't know. Is Evan straight? As far as we knew. Yeah. So it's like a pattern of these like younger straight guys and he always ends up being a victim because they manipulate and it's like well let's get on Grindr. You know what I mean? Let's get on

something that like not your friend's boyfriend. I don't know. It's very, I don't know. It's so sad. The whole thing is so sad. Because I was trying to give Jane the benefit. When we were watching the drama again, there was parts where I felt bad for him because there was parts Tati like made up.

And I was like, okay, that's like annoying. But. Yeah. And you can give grace to a young person. But then if they continue a certain pattern, then that goes away. It just goes away. And it's also like, okay, next time don't do it. But it's like, well, this was the next time.

Like, how do we just keep saying it? Well, there's a pattern of young people coming to fame and money and then getting stunted and never, like, he might never change. Oh, James at 40. Stop. That's scary. That's scary. I don't want to think about that oh my god it's just gonna be exactly the same he's gonna talk the same look do everything the same all right well i'm glad kayla got justice she seemed relieved felt safe yeah and she's still going she's still gonna be

pressing charges in California too. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, she said the courthouse was like in the town where he lived. So she's like driving past everything. She flew to Tennessee for it. I mean, that's – Yeah, I'm glad she's seeing it all the way through.

Because also just with like abusive men, like so often they get away with it. And I feel like this is a reminder that you know you can pay the consequences all because a lot of people do get away and like a lot of victims don't get justice like i love that she is seeing it all the way through and like showing people no like i will make sure he faces the consequences of his actions because as we see too many people don't yeah yeah no it's very true well hopefully it's last james charles i know i too many people don't. Yeah. No, it's very true. Well, hopefully that's the last James Charles. I know.

I'm hoping I don't have to cover James Charles for quite some time. Fingers crossed. It's been a minute. Yeah, I know. It's pretty late low. It's been nice. Yeah. You kind of forget, too. I know.

It's been like a year of low-key. But that's what I don't understand is people do forget. So why don't you, James, just use that to like keep going with just letting people forget? Why do we have to – now we're thinking 2019. Now we're thinking 2021. Now we're thinking all these things again and we're like, damn. Wait a minute. Yeah. There was a lot of situations. You do forget and then you're

kind of like, but this also sounds – yeah. I think we're on the not supporting James Charles. Here for growth if it could happen, but I think that needs to be – as I say in every show, seek help because, you know, it goes a long ways. I think you're old enough now that you're able to seek help for this addiction that you have with these straight boys. And be able to see the red flags.

Like obviously I do believe a lot of these young boys are lying, but also it's like you're supposed to be the adult and be able to clock that. Because teens and young, early 20s, they're not good liars. Right. Especially at this point. We see that pattern. You should see the pattern, too. Like, what?

All right. Oh, another influencer drama. You're, you're, not Fred. Have you ever collaborated with Stephaniehanie sue no no but i love her but also i think i did i remember when she came for nikado i was i involved myself in that drama too i also was like stephanie sue you are the scary one really i think so but i love her i love that mango i was gonna say your friend but i guess um i bought her merch i had her merch back in the day okay i was a fan i love i do like stephanie sue um well she's been in a little bit of controversy

lately too yes so oh yes um oh yes because stephanie sue is um gonna be in or has also been in the courtroom covering the um sean combs aka diddy um trial the sex traffic the sex trafficking or racketeering trial inside she's inside the courtroom it's a very select amount of press so it is a big deal that she got um a credential and is allowed in the room because it's not um live streamed like other cases there's no like photography no videos inside the courtroom so really the main source of information that like the general public gets about this case is going to come from the press and there's not very many it's only like a couple I think like she said three rows I think it's like maybe like one or

two dozen so very limited and it was a big deal that she got this access because she is like an influencer um Sirius um XM they did like a whole press release to announce that she um was going to be in the courtroom covering too so they're yeah so they're doing a big push to show that rotten mango and stephanie they're going to be representing yeah she's pretty massive i mean she is i know stephanie's different doing mukbangs and then she did the true crime with the mukbang bangs now her main thing is the rotten mango which i am addicted to and i hate your crime but i love her voice yeah she um is in one of the she's one of the top 10 podcasts in the u.s according to edison research yeah so that's a big deal especially when you think about just how many podcasts are in there so to

be literally in the top 10 oh my gosh that's amazing yeah that's a huge accomplishment yeah she's in the courtroom yeah because i think even that in and of itself like that announcement already had some skepticism because like obviously it's going to be a lot of traditional journalists in there that stephanie sue so that in and of itself but her platform is so big so it does make sense does she have a journalism background just through not technically i from what i've read it's like through just like the her content like she no like education for it not that it matters i'm not no i don't think so or like real journalistic experience isn't that crazy you're like in the courtroom for one of these big trials it's like so secluded so and you don't have any background other than you like it

you like a little true crime you do a little research on it i mean she is very great and she's very good at researching but that's so wild yeah it is it's but i think it speaks to the um media ecosystem right now too because look at like alex cooper but she's interviewing kamala harris you know so it is kind of the landscape where like podcasts and like this generation of like influencers who ended up with like huge shows. They are like the new journalists in a way for better or worse. Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't hate it. I kind of love that social media is like getting up in there and stuff. Yeah.

And even like a Theo Vaughn with like Trump. Like, you know, these people do get huge access to, like, the biggest world leaders and celebrities of our time. So it kind of makes sense with how everything else is going. But she posted a TikTok during, after, while jury selection was going on outside the courtroom. I saw this one, yeah. And she, the way she described her experience with Diddy made people upset. Because she said, the way he looks, you know, when koalas, when they get fuzzy and it's really humid and they have very fuzzy grayish whitish hair, is kind of reminiscent to that.

What? I didn't see that. Oh. She was like dancing. Oh, that was the second one. Yes. This was the first one where she's just talking about it. What does that mean?

And she said, the way he looks at every single person in the courtroom is the most intense thing ever. I feel like he's challenging people to break eye contact first. I almost peed myself. So the way that she's talking about it. So the way that she's describing. Our journalist in our social media representation firm. Yes. Love that.

Okay, well. So just the way that she's already describing her experience with Diddy. And it doesn't sound like her because I listen to her podcast and she is so like professional with the way she handles these situations so it is it's weird why did i say that i don't know why i don't know sometimes the f word just comes out but it is weird like how come she's just like yeah it's like people were coming for her because they were criticizing her for being almost like too giddy and too excited when it is like a real case with like dozens and dozens and dozens of real life victims. And then the TikTok you saw was another one where she was eating an Uncrustable twirling outside the courtroom like to like a little instrumental soundtrack. And the caption was, Just a girl eating her mushy PB&J outside of the federal courthouse

after spending eight hours in the same room as Diddy taking 79 pages of notes because cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom and I know you need to know what's happening. Just a girl. Just a girl eating her mushy PB&J. I was like, oh my goodness. That one was crazy.

That one I was like, is this real? I had to look it up. I was like, is this real? That one was wild. The twirling her skirt. Yes. I was like oh my goodness. It's true. That one was, yeah that one was a little. Again I feel like it's like not her brand. It used

to be like the cutesiness but I feel like she's just not that anymore. So it's just like such a weird thing for like you said like a literal true crime trial happening in real life. Yeah. Not only, yeah there's like and it's intense. Like again I think we forget because it's like the videos and stuff like that like have come out and kind of forget. And like seeing all the stuff, it seems like a spectacle.

But I'm like, damn, this one was pretty intense too. Like those videos of him in the hotel room with – Cassie, yeah. Yeah, it's – it's very like sickening. And it's like – yeah, it is kind of wild. It's – I don't know, just the lightness of it all. Yeah, I think also – Time and place.

Time and place is a big one, too. Because I think, too, like, I've read... I haven't gotten into Stephanie's stuff that much. I had a very small true crime, like, era where I was, like, very fascinated by it. But I kind of phased out of it. But, like, even reading about her, like, transition into... From, like, mukbangs to, like, mukbangs slash true crime. Yeah.

Like, she did get a lot of criticism for that era and then that's why she like pivoted towards like rotten mango where it was like more like focused on you know like the victims and taking it more seriously um because i think that's also good like she was open to that feedback and then she pivoted like she didn't want it to be like unserious like her eating and then also telling these stories so she tried to take it more seriously so i do think she's very open of feedback which i think is good so so less twirling yeah and also maybe she is just excited because it is obviously a big opportunity because sure the media access is so limited but also you have to remember that this is a big opportunity and the whole world is watching because you know when

things also like leave like the Judge Trish bubble. Like, and they get, like, clipped and other people are analyzing without, like, knowing who you are. Yes. Yes. Because I'd be like, who's this girl? Yeah. You know, because she is so cutesy and stuff. Yes.

And so you kind of, like, fight against that, too. It's like, no, you, like, deserve to be there. But, like, show why. Because if you're the only social media person allowed in there, like, that's such a big deal. Like, you talking to the camera saying what you saw like is so like important and apply to get the most eyes because you are a social media influencer. So it's like, yeah, I think at that point you pivot, which is why I would never want that job.

Oh my God. Don't put me in the day. Me coming back to report. I think I could be wrong. I don't remember. Like just so bad, but she's a lot smarter than me and she's a lot more articulate than me. So it's like, girl, I'll just keep that because I think people would be so bad. But she's a lot smarter than me. And she's a lot more articulate than me. So it's like, girl, I'll just keep that. Because I think people would be so excited.

And the fact that you look – you already look cutesy. You don't have to, like, act cutesy with a little mushy peanut butter sandwich. You know, which we love the crumb crustables in this house. But I was just like, just, yeah. Because she has, like – it's such a big deal. And so – Yeah. The TikToks.

I just saw them everywhere. And I was like, this is crazy. And so when I saw it, I was like, is she really in there? Yes, she is like is she really in there yes she is she really well i don't really get the koala like cutesy he's like cutesy or it's like he just had gray hair fuzzy and gray like his because the last thing is just her like her attempt of being poetic you know like she's trying to push further her the way she describes what's happening in the courtroom. Okay, got it. Because the last photo of him, of Diddy, his hair is long and gray, and also he has a gray beard and everything.

Because he can't dye his hair, so suddenly it's like a fast transformation. Suddenly you realize how old he actually is. Okay, got it. Koalas are kind of cute, so that's why I was like, is he looking like Joe-eyed? Yeah, koalas are a poor choice of words. But other people in the courtroom

also describe some of the things she said of how much eye contact he makes with people in the room and how outgoing he is towards. They're like, he's still a performer. He still try to talk to people in the room and ask them how they're doing and all kind of stuff. So that part is real. But I think she's, you know, when people hire her to do this, they want a certain thing. It's like when they wanted you to do Broadway, but they wanted you to mukbang on stage. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So there's that weirdness of like they got her for a reason. And part of the reason is that. Like she's supposed to communicate to a younger audience in a younger type of way. I had to fight really hard to not eat sandwiches on stage in my Broadway show. They wanted me in the middle of the show to like eat, well, I won't say what brand, but it was like a brand deal. And it's like, I love a brand deal, but I'm also like, but this is my Broadway debut.

Do I really want to just stop midway and all of a sudden we're eating sandwiches as part of a brand deal? I don't know. I get it. Cause yeah, they were like, but that's what you do. And I was like, but I don't want to, during my Broadway show, eat.

Like I'm more than just eating. So they take a mukbanger into a, you know, into a courtroom on a big, one of the biggest cases there is. So it's like, obviously. So they're expecting her to make TikToks. There'll be something that's kind of a weird combination. Yeah. There's always a little miss between, like, yeah, like, I don't know what, who even hires

her for this thing? What is it? Who chooses them? The state? The state of California? Well, it's in New York, but. Oh, is it's in new york but which network it was you said something serious exam yeah so serious exam is the one behind all this it's always like um yeah it's so funny dealing with brands is very much like that they think it's very like one way even my little love sack which they love but the little love sack

chair which i love that chair that's still my favorite chair i made moses drag that all the way up i'm like we're keeping this chair um they're really funny they're like then she takes a handful of chips and crunches really loud into the microphone i'm like i love that chair. That's still my favorite chair. I made Moses drag that all the way up. I'm like, we're keeping this chair. They're really funny. They're like, then she takes a handful of chips and crunches really loud into the microphone. I'm like, I love that that's like the brand. Yeah, they mixed it everything. It was like, they wanted ASMR. They wanted a mukbang. They're like, make sure she has some chips.

I'm like, I'll go upstairs and get the chips. I thought we were just saying a cutesy little kick out thing. But yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, maybe they're like, do a viral TikTok. I don't hate it necessarily. I think it's kind of cutesy too. I like it. I mean, it's funny viral tiktok i don't hate it necessarily i think it's kind of cutesy too i like it i mean it's funny but also i don't know i i don't i don't hate it it's weird i would do some that for sure i'm definitely going to be doing something inappropriate look

at me with pope francis just still talking about my baby you know what i mean but i'm also not stephanie sue i'm not talking about true crime but i love her in my mind she can't do any wrong even though i did come for her when she came for Nick Acato, which I don't know why. Nick Acato's coming to California in June, so he said anyone wants to collab. Word. So I sent him another podcast. I guess he's looking for OF collabs and just collabs in general.

He's doing another surgery, so we'll see. But I went hard for Nick Acato during the Stephanie Sue thing. It was a big fallout. It was a big deal, too. The Zach Choi, that was drama, but it kind of got looked past. I think it was 2019. It was that year. Oh that explains why. The Bi sister. My downward spiral.

I had a party where Zach Choi and Nick Ciccato were there but then they had a falling out. It was very crazy. Zach Choi took Stephanie Sue's side. It was very he was very if it was a trial against Nick Ciccato he was against Nick Ciccato in it. It was very interesting but alright Stephanie Sue. I like that she's out there doing big things. Alex Cooper. Yeah we mentioned her and she's like nikocado he was against nikocado and it was very interesting but all right stephanie sue i like

that she's out there doing big things i know alex cooper yeah we mentioned her and she's like has a documentary coming i was like damn they're all yeah i think people discrediting stephanie have to realize like okay having that many listeners and that many eyes on you like a lot of traditional media outlets don't even have that you know so it makes sense why i do think she deserves that access and i think like i said i feel like she's very receptive towards criticism i don't think she wants to piss anyone off or like insult anyone especially yeah victims true crime coverage is always going to be hard because there's always going to be that debate about like the ethics of covering it and talking about it and stuff like that.

That's why I always think, like, they should, like – I guess it's not, like, business, but I feel like they should be donating to, like, the families, like, giving the money to the families or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, because that's always going to be a thing, too. Like, if you're talking about, like, you know, victims and stuff, and then all of a sudden you have a brand deal for, like, you eating chips with love stock. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Now it feels a little yeah so the ethics of true crime media especially like with tiktok and youtube and stuff it's always going to be weird i think there's no would you rather work in true crime media or queer media queer media i love that term is that did she coin it that queen or was that always a thing i feel like it's probably always been a thing i mean there's queer outlets you know like the advocate and stuff so okay pink news pink news what is that one i like that one lgbt outlet yeah okay i love that she's like i work in queer media because then cynthia reba was like do i work i was like do we are we we are in queer media? Because then Cynthia Riva was like, do I work in queer media? I was like, do we? Are we in queer media?

We do. We are in queer media, technically, yeah. I like that term. It makes sense now. It's like, oh, yeah, they also work in queer media. Yeah, I mean, just Trish, right at the beginning,

wasn't it on Grindr? Yeah, we were in the Grindr, yeah. In 2023. 2024 we slipped, but I feel like we're back on the come up. You're doing a lot of work this year, I think, so. I'm fighting for that

Grindr number one spot. I don't know if I'm going to ever be Trixie and Katya, because they are, even at my own shows, people are just like, we're Trixie and Katya. I'm fighting for that grinder number one spot. I don't know if I'm going to ever be Trixie and Katya because they are, even at my own shows, people are just like, we're Trixie and Katya. I was like, okay.

Which we love, but also like, yeah. By the way, I should just say, I picked the queens that I did, well, I reached out to them because I knew they were fans.

I feel, or like, liked me at least. I would never reach out to like a Suzy too because I love her or like on your nerve, obviously they're queens. But there's no indication

that they would know who I was or like liked me. But each one of these queens has said something about me. Corey King did Kissies for my Fishes. Jewel Sparkles gave me a shout out in the Las Laches song. Obviously, Keisha did me for Snatch Game. And Joelle recently tweeted me. So if I knew they were people who kind of liked me,

that's because I felt like you guys know my fear of rejection. If I- Especially people you love. So- Oh, if Suzy too would reject me- I know, me too. I would have been- I'm scared. Oh my So if Susie too would reject me. I know me too. I would have been. Oh my God.

I'm too scared. Even last minute. I asked Corey if Lydia wanted to come, but she's doing all stars. But I don't think Corey saw the message because she's like, I don't ever check my ex messages or whatever. But even then I was like, oh, I'm too scared to ask. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

It's very. So anyways, I don't know. I thought I should clarify that because I would love every single queen to be my video but i'm terrified of asking anyone but when i see a queen follow me or i think her mona lisa had also put that she like impersonated me so if i see them like me in some capacity then i do otherwise i would just assume they're probably like oh who's this who's this yeah yeah you do have a traumatic drag queen relationship yeah and they'll read me. They'll come for me.

Rightfully so. I do not want to get read. But yes, I love all of them. But I would be, yeah, I'm always scared to ask. So just noted on that. Which queen did we just talk about that made me think that? Oh, Trixie. Oh, yes.

Oh, well, I didn't ask Trixie because I've been DMing her like 20,000 times. So no response. I would love a Trixie and Katya, but they're superior. They're busy, too. They always got something. Trixie, I think, is on tour again, too. Yeah. Weirdly, we were in the same cities and stuff like that, kind of following each other for

a minute. If you can't get Trixie. Actually, no, you can't even get Trish sold out. So these next ones, right? Right. Yeah. We're going to get sold out for the rest of the year. Yeah.

Sorry. So we can't get either. Yeah. We're both sold out. So these next ones, right? Right. Yeah. We're going to be sold out for the rest of the year. Yeah. Sorry. So we can't get either. Both are sold out queens. Yeah. We kind of are actually. Sorry about it. Maybe come to World Pride. I don't know how that works.

Just buy anyone buy a ticket. I don't know. I think so. Yeah. It'll be like the Lady Gaga performance in Brazil

where it's just like three million people in the whole town. That's how I'm feeling. It's going to just The drone shots would be crazy. I would love that. What just happened? Was it Wango Tango this week or something happened?

Yeah, Wango Tango. Megan Trainor. Yes, that jogged me. That's what I'm not scared of. It's fine if no one shows up to my set. They showed it. Oh, was it? No, you say. I thought you were talking about something else than Megan Trainor. How she changed the All About That bass bass lyrics she made it the skinny version oh really yes she said that's something else about her oh wow oh my god oh my god

because you know it goes um yeah it's pretty clear i ain't no size two but i can shake it shake it like now it goes yeah it's pretty clear i got some two, but I can shake it, shake it. Like, now it goes, yeah, it's pretty clear. I got some new boobs, and I can shake them, shake them. Okay. Skinny queen. I'm a size two now. She's like, yo, I'm gone. That's.

She's not. I'm surprised she even did the song. She had to, like, skinny-fy it. Oh, if I'm skinny, I'm no longer doing fat chicks. That's crazy. That's just mocking at that point. That's just rubbing it in your face be like

okay where's my fat chicks at just kidding I lost I'm on a Zephyr it's not me anymore she is so snatched in this dude she's like

so snatched she's like oh my god new boobs in a bikini like just she looks so good and he's like

all about that base I'm like oh my god where's the base we bikini. She looks so good. And it's like all about that base. I'm like, oh my God. Where's the base? We want to see that base. The base in the room. Yeah, that. Oh, I didn't know she changed the lyrics. Yes, she made it the skinny version.

Maybe she'll release like Taylor. All about that base skinny version. She needs to, yeah. She needs to come out with the skinny bop for sure. I always thought about that. In fact, I think I did come out with the skinny bop. There was a song I wrote called like Revenge Body or something. And it was like really when I thought I was going to be skinny.

So I wrote the song before I got skinny. I was like, watch, I'm going to lose like 100 pounds. I'm going to do this video. It's like body on 10. I think we played it before. That's my revenge. It's just like talking about like how fit and snatched I am. And obviously I never got fit and snatched.

But I was like, this is going to be the comeback song or whatever. She needs to do that. That's wild. No, I was talking about it. It's like, again, not a bad thing. But like there was an angle where it looked like nobody was there but it's like

then someone said everyone was in the pit like they pushed everyone to the front whatever so it could have been like 30,000 people and it just didn't look like it but it looked like

nobody was there so everyone's like what happened like whatever so I was thinking about that with festivals they're like oh 40,000 people are going to be there

but I'm like what if they're not there for my set you know what if it's like this huge stage and festival grounds are huge if they're expecting

40,000 for J-Lo but I I go on at 5 p.m. and there's only like 100, which is like, great, we love it. It's going to look like that. And then everyone on the internet will be like, oh my God, 10 people showed up. Which, by the way, I would love. It'd be everything. But it was, I thought about me then performing at a festival. I was like, ooh, this could also be me.

Also, people thought it looked like Tana performing, Meghan Trainor's. That's what I said. Yeah. I saw that. I was so late. I thought Tana Mongeau was Tana performing Meghan Trainor's. That's what I said. Yeah. I saw that. I was so late. I thought Tana Mongeau was doing covers of Meghan Trainor songs. But it was just Meghan Trainor singing her own songs. She didn't like Tana.

She was giving Tana. That is so funny. Yeah. Because it's kind of like what she wore in Vegas with you. Oh, yeah. She looks great. I mean, she does look good. Wow.

It's so crazy how... She talked about doing Manjaro. Is that what she did, right? Yeah. Yeah, she's pretty open about it. Damn. The skinny era is upon us. It's not going anywhere. Everyone just being so skinny.

Not me. What I need to eat after this. Because we didn't eat breakfast. I didn't get to go to the grocery store yesterday. That's how busy I've been. I was like, oh, my God. I need something. i had a lemon bread from starbucks and a frappuccino and an orange i guess i did have a little bit this morning

i did have a little bit i look like i'm in megan trainer news the big one for me was um but i don't know if anyone cares about his family on our channel i kind of care juicy katherine is making wrote a book oh was that new Catherine is making, wrote a book. Oh, was that new? I saw that she wrote a book. It's coming out in July. Oh. Pages have apparently leaked.

And she has revealed that Austin cheated on her. What? Wait, did you? I didn't know. Did you know? That is brand new information. Wait, but that's crazy to confirm it. I was a little sus. I was like, okay, maybe they were broken up.

Maybe they were separated, whatever. And then he was like trying to see those girls in Malibu, whatever the hell he was doing, sending them Ubers. So that's what I was thinking. I'm like, okay, separation. They're not together anymore. But this was like at the peak, at the height. When they did that basketball game at Staples Center, you know, where they're like in the

middle of the thing. Oh, yeah. He like invited another girl there because she was like, it was weird. We were a family. People knew us as a duo. And I was like, there because she was like, it was weird. We like, we were a family. People knew us as a duo. And I was like, oh, should we walk out together? And he's like, I don't know. Like, do whatever if you want to or something like that.

But he wanted the moment by himself. The girl that he was like supposedly cheating with or allegedly like was there. And Catherine's like, I kind of clocked it. I was kind of like, I saw this girl. And I was kind of like, why is she so close? Why is she so here? Whatever.

But he invited the girl he was cheating to the freaking basketball game. Like, that's crazy. It's one thing to like cheat. But he invited the girl he was cheating to the freaking basketball game. Like, that's crazy. It's one thing to, like, cheat. Okay. Awful. You're a pig. But at your charity basketball game where your family is at and your wife that you, like, built this thing. And it's not like he's famous. Oh, this is my pet peeve with men. When they think they're famous because

of them. But it's like, you're famous because you're family. The ensemble, yeah. Yes. No one wants to see the Austin McBroom show, clearly. Like, where is yet now is the podcast still happening we don't know like maybe you got a little bit of money from snapchat for your clownery antics but that's because you made yourself look like a fool which will live on forever and it'll embarrass your kids like it's like is it worth the dollar at that stage like no i think when you have kids it's not look i was i was a clown for so long too i get it but like

when you have kids you don't like want to embarrass them. But it's like whatever. That aside, you think everyone there at the Staples Center for you, like you're not going to have Catherine walk out with you. Like that's the whole reason that like you, your kids, you're all of that. It's like so wild to me like how they get these egos. And so many guys get this way. I think it was Shay Carl.

I know that I'm like dating myself for so long. There was a guy named Shay Carl whose the whole thing was like I'm a family vlogger for Mormon. Do you remember him? Yeah. He was a Mormon from Utah. Oh, my God. The Shay Tards?

Shay – which – what? Crazy name. And they called their kids like Princess Tard and like all this stuff. Yes. I didn't remember the kid's name. Oh, Sun Tard. Like they were all like Tards. What?

And it was what you would think too. It's obviously like the derogatory word you can't use anymore. But it's like that was their whole thing. And they would call their kids these. They would film their vlogs, everything, film their birth. But he thought he was the star. He went out and started talking to like a webcam model. And I was just like –

Oh, I remember that. What is with these guys? Like you build your fame off of your being a lovely – like Ned too. That just came out with the Try Guys talking about Ned who's like I guess no longer with his wife I guess allegedly. Did you see that news? Oh, no. That was something. It's like you're known, and Ned would too, was like the wife guy.

Like, oh my God, the wife. Like if that is your whole thing, like how, the audacity that you would think, like going out and talking to another woman, they want you, people, no, nobody wants you. Austin McBroom didn't write a book. Would anyone care? Could you imagine his side, my side? It's like no one gives a, no one cares about Austin McBroom. I didn't really care. I didn't know much about my side it's like no one gives a who cares about Austin McBroom I didn't really care I didn't know much

about Catherine I wouldn't say I wouldn't care about her but now I care about her I was like what the hell like that's crazy she was better than me she was pregnant she was pregnant when he was like cheating on her and all this stuff was happening and she had to like act like this was all you know they were happy and it was all this thing but i just i hate men holly madison just recently exposed this weekend her ex zach from the ghost hunter show who just what she like yesterday in real time i was watching it she was three girls have come forward with proof four five the number is up to seven this morning i'm like the audacity of these men these ugly men who literally have nothing going for them except for their spouse, except for their significant other.

Holly and him were so public. She's so beautiful, so independent, has her third season of a TV show out currently right now. Like all of this stuff. I'm like, how do these men find the time? How do they? But you know, my theory is this. It's like the ugly ones, right?

They get the fame, the money. It's like the Shay Carl, Austin McBroom, like Zach from Ghost Hunters. It's like they get these fame and then they get the girls throwing themselves at them because like whatever. They're young girls. They want some of the fame. They want to feel like whatever. I get it.

Whatever. I don't blame the girls. But it's like they cheat on these beautiful women because they feel like they're like so – they think these girls want them because they're like this hot commodity. It's like no. They're just trying to get the clout from you. Like they want – they don't want you. You're ugly.

You're disgusting. Like I just – I don't get these men. They're so dumb. Austin was so lucky. When you look at Catherine, you're just like, damn, that girl was so beautiful. And you look at Austin, and he just looks like a clown. You know what I mean? He just looks like a clown.

Zach, too. Zach, old, hunting ghost at 50 years old. And you're cheating on Holly Madison? What? With multiple – she's calling him out. She showed Costco. She goes, when he cheats in bulk. You know what I mean?

And it's just like these men. I just – I hate – I hate cheaters so much. Especially with these public relationships. Get a divorce. Separate. Be honest. Catherine was like blindsided. She was just like, I had no idea.

Like I know to us it's like, oh, wow. Yeah, that was obvious. But it's like, she probably was like, what the hell? Like at the height of your fame, you're making millions of dollars off being a family and you're really going to cheat? Stupid. Those are people that those downfalls, you're like, good, honestly. Be better. Do the downfall of that.

We want that. That's what we need. I want to see the downfall of all of it. Yes, go ahead. No, I'm sorry. But having children and to do that like i can't imagine katherine like you have kids you're pregnant you have like you have a family you have a life and you become successful and they probably worked hard to get to that point and then she's like suddenly you're left alone with like that's that's just to me it's like you have kids i don't know what doesn't matter what your obsession or addiction is you need to get rid you have kids. I don't know what, doesn't matter what your obsession or addiction is.

You need to get rid of it. Because, like, I don't know. Like, the children is right there. To rather have some stranger woman than hanging out with your kids. Like, that's time you could spend with your kids. That's something that never computes. You're very right. And on that note, f*** Joe Goldberg.

Because he didn't care about his kid. You're so right. I know. Because you too You're so right I know Does he too have a kid? I love him so much I'm like okay why are you at the bookstore with Bronte You are so right

You are so right You are so right Oh my god at the end He's like my son I can't take him Wait what? You haven't seen your son this whole season. Now you're sad when you're about to, when you're naked and Bronte doesn't want to have sex with you anymore.

Now you're like, my son. When all you care about, you even told Bronte, all I care about is you. You're my number one priority. What about poor little Henry over there? Him too. He is a cheater. You're right. Honestly, more guys should not have a penis, I feel.

I feel when you cheat, you should get your penis card taken away. Just a little piece of it each time. You know what I mean? Then let's see how many of those women want you. Let's see how big and bad you are. You know what I mean? Every time you cheat, you lose an inch. Yeah.

Love that. That part. All right. Oh, my God. Wow. Oh, my God. Wow. Oh, my God. You're right. That rocked your world, that revelation.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. How do you have a kid and you got him back from his dad and you have this, like, wife that's taking care of him that's, like, the mother? Like, you really are going to give it all up for Bronte. Someone who was catfishing you you dumb oh my god that makes me so mad i hate him crazy well that's it moral of the story joe goldberg yeah you're right he is the worst i was thinking about that too and then we were talking about like the kayla situation i was like you know what he was kind of awful yeah what about that too and then we were talking about like the Kayla situation I was like you know what

he was kind of awful yeah what's worse I mean he's both but a serial killer or a serial cheater he's both and absentee father damn

triple homicide damn we need Pumbaj down here to discuss further his thoughts about this character that were never on paper alright thanks guys for watching we love you so I have to go His thoughts about this character that were never on paper. All right.

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Well, the reincarnation for sure. Gays. Gay rights. Gay rights and gay marriage. That's what I'm here for forever and ever. I think we got the marriage. Huh? We got the marriage part, right?

Well, I think you have gay rights. Oh, no. They're being taken away. That's being burned. The marriage part? No. Some states, right? Yeah. Oh, wow. Come to California. It'll be a challenge. Yeah. We're going to stay liberal and gay here all day long. So that's all I'll do. Maybe run for governor because I think our governor is a little dicey, but I might be the next. You could. Governor.

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