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Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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Dion predicted shooter Sanders would go top five and didn't he just get it right nailed it FFL draft recap squad coming up right now. You are talking ball with the NFL squad sponsored by game time From the Chiefs to the Bills Falcons to the 49ers and everyone else around the NFL It's the local experts of the Lockdown podcast network bringing you scoops breakdowns and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming weekend for hard-hitting football with our harder-hitting takes. Buckle up. It's the NFL Squad, and we have a seat for you.

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It was kind of boring, but it was very informed. I think the takes were good. The information was solid. As always, the NFL draft a little bit less boring. I mean, the first trade coming up pretty quick. I think the board really didn't shake up too much from that trade, but you know, first trade coming to pick number two. So some exciting things.

But of course, the most exciting thing all weekend long is the amount of times you heard the name should or Sanders and it was not for good reasons. We're going to kick off talking about that, but we got plenty of draft conversations coming out coming from Ross Jackson, locked on saints, Cody work, locked on Broncos, James Yarko, locked on bucks, Nick Cattles locked on Patriots. Welcome sir to your first NFL squad episode. Thank you. Kevin Ostricher locked on Ravens, Aaron Freeman of locked on Falcons. Of course, I'm David Harrison of Locked on the best team in the NFL. So guys should are saying, did you come back

to my off with Nick James? You're not talking yet. I'm going to kick it off with Nick actually. So we're gonna let the newcomer go first. What were your thoughts as Chidor Sanders continued to slide? And when did you think the Pats might draft him to replace Drake May? Oh yeah, can I just say a tease and peace from Mel Kuyper, tease and peace because I just want to make it clear. Oh my gosh. He was able to get through that very challenging time of his life.

I don't know what was going on with Mel. My freaking goodness. Like the Shadara Sanders stuff, what bothered me the most David was the fact that I just felt like they were telling one side of the story, which was like, oh, this poor, this poor young man, he keeps falling. I understand the adversity. All right. Falling in the NFL draft is never fun.

And I'm sure he was embarrassed, but he wasn't diagnosed with cancer. He wasn't fighting some real life tragedy. He's going to be drafted in the NFL. His dad is neon Dion. He had his Jersey retired at Colorado for no reason whatsoever other than his name is Leon. So I just, I didn't feel bad for him as much as apparently some of the people that were doing the TV felt bad for him. But when you read about it, and I'm sure you guys read a bunch of the stuff, it's, he didn't

necessarily win a bunch of people over during the process. I don't think the things that were said before the draft helped him at all, either by him or his dad. And I just thought it was a lack of accountability almost from, from like the family and him, because they're like, Oh my God, we can't believe he's falling. So I think they played a role in it. So the fifth round, yeah, I was surprised he fell to the fifth freaking round, but, um, I wasn't surprised that he fell out of

the first after what had been said about him. Yeah. Look, that fifth round check hits a little harder or less hard, I should say. A little weaker than that first round check. Um, and yes, I did make the joke cause Deion Sanders did say his son was going to go top five. So, you know, top five rounds of the NFL draft is still top five. So he's back. Right. And you know what, if that fifth round check isn't enough, he can go sell that Roli and make up, you know, some, some of that cash.

Ross Jackson locked on saints. I want to ask you this because there was a very very specific part of this conversation that Nick just mentioned, Dion Sanders. How much do you think Dion Sanders influenced this whole thing? Because there was a lot of comparisons throughout the weekend of Archie Manning, New Orleans Saints legend, which is why I'm coming to you, for what he did with his son Eli Manning and their whole Chargers not Chargers saga. So how much do you think that played into it? Yeah look I think that's two things. I think that first of all it's the difference in time in terms of when these couple of different things happened and the idea of like I'm gonna pull it Eli doesn't play the way that it does now when

you're out there talking about it ahead of time versus when you do it in the moment like what happened with the Mannings and I think the other side of all this too, that we kind of have to remember is we're in an entirely different landscape in terms of what it is that these players are walking into the NFL with the experiences that they have, the lives that they live, the money that they've got, all these other things. And there's going to be people around the NFL for better or for worse that don't like it, that aren't fans of it. And that aren't going to sit there and hold your hand and aren't going to be people around the NFL for better or for worse that don't like it, that aren't fans of it and that aren't going to sit there and hold your hand and aren't going to do

all these other things. Not saying that Shudder Sanders needed his hand held. I thought Shudder Sanders was one of the best quarterbacks in this year's draft, but I don't think that you are, that he was the quarterback that was good enough to be able to overcome all of the other things that were going on. And I think that where the Sanders situation differs is the fact that if I'm being honest, I don't know how much Deion Sanders helped his son's situation from getting prepared, from getting him ready for what these NFL teams are going to look for, how to play the game, how to interview, how to take everything with gratitude, all these other things. I think those are the things that NFL teams are looking for. And again, like I said, for better or for worse,

whether you agree with it or whether you disagree with it, it's the environment of the NFL. And then so you've shown up and proven something in this scenario when you're already not the quarterback that's expected to go at the top of the board, then you're probably gonna run into a situation to where you're gonna end up doing yourself more detriment than creating benefit for yourself

when you come out and kind of do some of these things. Like when you're, as has been reported, blowing off teams because you don't think you're going to be there and that it's your time and all these other things, that's going to come back to bite you. And I think that's exactly what happened in the NFL, which has, I think that we've seen all the way from, you know, certain situations and, you know, different, different, I'll just say different situations around the league there are things that they will absolutely make concessions for that they shouldn't and there are things that will absolutely penalize players for that they shouldn't and one of those is it's this situation is one side of that spectrum or the other no matter how you look at it Ross Jackson dropping a better sermon than Derek Carr did at church this past Sunday there you go preach my man you know there you know, there were a

lot of conversation like a lot of the media members who were you like feeling bad for should or right. I heard multiple people typically former players saying that you're supposed to be drafted on your talent alone. None of this other stuff is some is supposed to matter. But Kevin Ostreicher locked on Ravens. You cover Lamar Jackson, who runs the ball pretty well, throws the ball pretty well, controls the offense pretty well, but he also represents the Ravens really well. So is it fair that how you're going to

represent the franchise, how you can potentially be the face of the franchise does matter in these evaluations? 100%. I mean, it's a huge part, especially, I mean, I know different positions hold different value throughout the league in terms of franchise, this franchise, that, but the quarterback position in the NFL, that is your leader. Like that is your guy. And if a guy is gonna go in and call out his teammates or be a big drama person that early in his career,

it could cause fractures in the locker room from an early stage. And when you talk about Lamar, this is a guy that is extremely humble. He refers to everybody in the media room as Mr. or Mrs. He's very respectful and he doesn't throw his teammates under the bus. He's someone that takes accountability for his actions. And even when it's not his fault, he still takes accountability for

those actions and says, you know what, it's on me, I'm the leader. I'm the one that needs to be better. And so if there's a quarterback who was supposed to be your leader calling out teammates, you know what? Yeah, he ran the wrong route or man, he really dropped that ball. Like, man, we could have won, but I did, I did all I could, but hey, you know, sometimes your teammates don't like step up for you. That is the exact opposite of what you need, especially for any team that's looking to compete in win because that stuff, it might not start off as something big, but those cracks start in. They do not, they only grow. They do not get better. Once something cracks, it is very hard to fix. So I think a hundred percent when you're talking about talent,

it's one thing, but there was a lot more to the process, which is why there are pre-draft interviews, which is why teams try to get to know guys and look I don't blame any team They didn't feel like sure there was a fit for their culture. Obviously he is talented But there's a lot more that goes into the process that whole blaming Teammates and not taking accountability is exactly what's got Saints fans running Derek Carr out the door right now Like that's exactly one of the big reasons why they are not a big fan of what it is that he brought because of that kind of stuff. Yeah, you can't do that. I'll tell you, like during this whole lead up to the NFL draft weekend, you heard that he didn't interview well. You heard this year, the arrogant entitled.

Once I heard that there were interviews, at least some interviews where he was asked about bad tape and blamed his teammates, I was like, Oh brother, you'll, you might be in real trouble right now. Uh, I want to ask this last question of this segment to Aaron Freeman, a locked on Falcons James Jargo, Cody work are going to kick off our conversation of the best draft classes in 2025 this year. But Aaron Freeman, no reason. I'm just kind of picking you a random locked on Falcons. Do you feel bad about should or getting all those prank calls at all?

I prank calls. What should order? I don't even heard of it. Oh, OK. I didn't hear any calls over the weekend. No, no, I did not hear. No, of course. Yeah, no, I mean, it sucks. Because like for Shador, because like he was the story of the weekend. And so the prank call for those of you that are been living under a rock like I have for the last couple of days, coming from the son of the Falcons defensive coordinator due to the defensive coordinator deciding, you know, like, hey, this iPad I got, allegedly, just leave it out for anybody to go

and see, you know, my emails and contact information. But, you know, I think the prank call thing became a bigger thing than it probably is Because it involves Shador Sanders and that seemingly kind of what we're getting at like everything around Shador Sanders seems to be a big deal even when it's not you know, whether We're talking about his performance on the football field or you know his draft status or whatever and now this prank call situation. So the football field or his draft status or whatever. And now there's prank call situation. So yeah, man, it sucks, but it is what it is. He's not the first player to get prank called.

He won't be the last player to get prank called. It's just, unfortunately for the Albrecht family, Jeff Albrecht didn't raise his son smart enough to know that you don't give evidence of your prime. Star six nine. Your prank call. So, you know, I hope Cody Rorick teaches the Falcons defensive, their young core of players much better than he taught his son. That's what I'll say. Cody Rorick, you just mentioned it, right? Listen, I wasn't the perfect kid. Okay. I wasn't a saint myself, but you know what? And we didn't have cell phones when I was

a teenage, but you know, we did have, we you know what and we didn't have cell phones when I was a teenage But you know we did have we did have cameras and we actually had like smaller handheld cameras that people took all over the place And we also had phones to which we would make the occasional prank phone call But like Cody just said star six nine used to be able to call back the number that called you but there was also a way To block the number like six seven, baby I'm not trying to like encourage people out there, but my dad used to tell me there's a smart way to do dumb stuff. You're in college, bro.

Be smarter. Like if I'm the dean of that university, that's what I'm mad about. I'm like, dude, are you serious? Like you represent this intellectual institution and this is what you're out here doing. Cody Rourke, James Jarko, Lockdown Broncos, Lockdown Bucks, and to kick off our best draft class of

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out of the 2025 NFL draft. And in honor of Jamal Murray, the Denver Nuggets, just buckets on the Clippers, making me a little bit of money. Shout out to FanDuel. Cody Rourke, I'm gonna let you kick it off, man. Who is your number one? Who's your favorite draft class of this year? Well, draft class in totality. I mean, like I said, I've only paid attention to Denver's,

but I think when we look at first round picks, I felt like the first round had a lot of value. If you're the Los Angeles Rams, obviously round number two is your most exciting starting point. I liked them getting Terrence Ferguson. But let's talk about round one picks. I mean, I was shocked by the Broncos pick with Jaday Baron, but man, that's a freaking fit to put inside this Broncos defense next to Pats or Tan. I love James Yarco in the lockdown bucks pick there of Emeka Iguca. I wanted him in Denver. I thought that's a great addition there with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Travis Hunter going to Jacksonville was interesting. I wish Spencer was on this show because I was going to say, what are the Browns doing trading out a number two where they could have had a chance.

Ideally, you could have had Travis Hunter and Shader centers when it was all said and done. But so many good picks across the board here. The Eagles as well. I hate to give them credit because everyone always hypes up Howie every year, but them getting Jahad Campbell is really good as well I I felt like the first round contained a lot of value from top to bottom and as you mentioned earlier I felt like it was more entertaining there more twists and turns

Ultimately than our locked on NFL mock draft that we had but man it was it was entertaining I think a lot of teams came away some great players in around one of this year's draft It's hard to just pinpoint who actually wanted. Yeah, you know, it's actually impressive. The closer we got to actual draft weekend, I started to have more and more guys that I liked in like the first round or at least like really early day to him. Like, you know what? Maybe there's more talent in this class. We really gave credit for most of the draft build up.

I love the Travis Hunter pick by the Jackson Jaguars being bold, moving up and going, getting him. And if you've heard the answer that he gave to an amazing question during his introductory press conference, where he's asked who wins Travis Hunter, the receiver Travis under the DB, that question asked by Tony Wiggins of locked on Jack. So if you've heard that quip and you've laughed at it, you owe him a sub. So go over there right after this and saw it a lot on Jags and also listen,

cause Tony's that funny. Uh, all our leads into that kind of funny conversation. Also the afternoon host of locked on NFL NFL so you can go get them in multiple different places, but enough plugging there. James Yarko locked on the Ohio State Buckeyes wide receivers. I love love. So behind the curtain here guys, James Yarko hates Ohio State. Absolutely hates Ohio State. He picked James Pierce Jr. The Tennessee edge rusher in the mock draft special for the network and I told him I'll cover the Bucks anymore, but I

still pay attention. I don't like the pick and he was like yeah. Well, your opinion doesn't matter anymore. He said, okay too shut. So the fact that he didn't get the pick that he made and he got an Ohio State receiver. Love it. James Arco, your favorite class and why. Uh beside the Buccaneers because they had a great draft class. Yes, they did. They got your guy from Ohio State. Yeah, Morris. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from Notre Dame. You gotta

love that after the first round and highest drafted players in Buccaneers history from Ohio State and from Notre Dame. Fun fact, but no, I Cody and I were talking before the show that you know bucks were expecting defense and I were talking before the show that, you know, Bucks were expecting defense, and I talked a lot about Jaday Barrett. And then he was talking about how Broncos were expecting offense. He loved Amiko Ibuka. But no, honestly, I love what the Carolina Panthers did, man. Like, I think they had a really, really good draft. You can see what Dave Canales is trying to do that. No, not enough people are talking about the Panthers potentially being a problem. You know, if not this year, definitely by next year, but they go out and they get

their big receiver. Dave Canales gets his Mike Evans in Tet Macmillan. And then you bolster the edge with with Skorton and Prince Lee, Umun Meehlen, another Ohio State guy that I really liked a lot. You got Safety, Latham Ransom back there now. Like, and I liked Trevor Etienne more than I think a lot of people did, just because I can, he's not going to be your lead back. He's not going to be, you know, that thousand-yard guy. But he is going to be that kind of Swiss Army knife that can do a lot of different things for that offense. So I think what Carolina did was was pretty special. We might look back on this here in two or three years and talk about how this was the

draft class for Carolina that turned them around and made them contenders for the NFC South. I want to make that I was I was kind of forced to make a bold prediction on a show a couple weeks ago about the NFC South. My bold prediction was the the Panthers are going to win the NFC South this year. So I'm all in on it. And I know the NFC South hosts are in here right now and I'm doubling down the Panthers. We're doing it. Carolina. You know what? Maybe even the late the Superbowl who knows.

You know, I know against the Ravens, but I will now. Enemies tonight. You know, there's probably some people watching this right now or listening to this right now. They man locked on bucks. So it was given the Panthers some love. What an unbiased guy he is, but what he didn't mention that Dave Canales former offensive coordinator for the Buccaneer. So there's a whole lot of years for James Jargo talk about. I'm not even praise on Liam Cohen. Yeah, you're good. You worry about it. We're done.

Um the world's locked on Patriots. I hear the Pats had a pretty good draft weekend as well. What do you think about their class? Yeah, I mean, look, I'm gonna sound like the ultimate Homer but I do think that they had a really good draft and Dame Brugler had him ranked as the top draft in in this year's uh with this year's class and and you know, the question is obviously Will Campbell. I think that's the that's like the most polarizing pick. I I can't tell you how much arm length I've talked in the last couple of months

you can't do it anymore but if Will Campbell ends up being at least an average if not slightly above average left tackle for the next decade then I mean they just added so many different pieces the the dynamic element to their offense which has been. You bring on Trevion Henderson and what he can do in the pass and run game. That was my guy. Right? His pass protection is just bananas. But he's just, he's a home run threat and they haven't had a home run threat. And if Kyle Williams works out, I mean, I think here in New England, there's a lot of PTSD from their terrible drafting and especially at that position. But if Kyle Williams at 69 ends up being the guy that they think he can be

another dynamic guy that can get down the field be that X receiver they've been dying for If he can bring that skill to this offense, then they've gotten better. I don't know if I'd go, you know 10-11 wins better just yet, but I do think that Vrabel has brought in kind of a new attitude and I think that they focused on guys that Had certain traits they want high football IQ guys. They want guys who have great character They drafted a bunch of captains from their college teams. They believe in that so yeah I mean

I think even Jared Wilson and Joshua Farmer and then you go down to the fifth round and get Braden Swinson who you know And then you go down to the fifth round and get Braden Swinson who you know Had like a pass rush win rate of better than 22 last year at lsu. So I think they did a great job. But as we all know, you know, we all We can give grades the day after but we'll find out two or three years the execution like that The most important thing david that stood out to me and I don't know how much i'm sure you guys watch this as well As you're watching the draft unfold is like Does the team understand the board does does the team understand certain runs at positions last year? The Patriots didn't do a good job of that right they traded out of the spot Lad McConkey gets picked and you know, they they lost on the the left tackle and tackle run in the second round

They try to get back up into that they weren't able to this year. They were ahead on runs they traded up to 137 for Joshua Farmer and three out of the next six picks were defensive tackles. So they were ahead on runs this year. It just felt like they had a really good handle of the board. Yeah, no better handle than Bill Belichick does right now on his brother. A lot of those names used rattled off were guys that I just I had all over my commander's you know, quote, unquote big board that was

coveting for them. Trevion Henderson, like I had number 29. I would love Trevion Henderson, even at number 29 to the Washington commanders. But fortunately commanders, Patriots, joint practices. So at least I'll get to see them and cover them for, you know, a couple of days, two or three. So that'll be a lot of fun. Kicking off next, we're going to talk about the quarterbacks

that went in this year's class, where they went, who has the most chance of success. Before we do that real quick, Cody Rourke likes to throw me on the spot every once in a while. Ask me my thoughts on specific topic. David is not here because the Dallas Cowboys had one of the best classes this year and we're out of time so I'm not going to be able to dive into that but best quarterback

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Wrap it up this week's NFL squad episode post 2025 NFL draft. The most important position on the field of course is the quarterback. So that is how we're going to wrap this thing up. We started with quarterback. We're going to end with a quarterback and there's only one person here covering a rookie quarterback this year. That is Ross Jackson of Lockdown Saints. Congratulations. Did you trade up in our mock to get Jackson Dart or were you just going to? I can't remember anymore. I did trade up to get Jackson Dart and I almost traded up to get Tyler Shuck just to really drive home that I knew where this was going but I didn't do it. Well Jackson Dart, a team did trade up to get him. That was the New York Giants.

The New Orleans Saints did get Tyler Shuck that's spelled with a GH for those of you who hate the American English language. 40th pick overall to the New Orleans Saints. Is he the next Archie Manning? Is he the next Drew Brees? Drew Brees wasn't drafted by the Saints, but that's okay. Nope, but he is the next starter for the New Orleans Saints. That's for certain, or at least I'm certain that that's going to be the case. I believe that Derek Carr will be out of New Orleans by the time that this season begins, either because he is literally out of New Orleans or because he undergoes surgery and

then isn't able to play in 2025. But in any case, I think Tyler Shuck is going to be the starter for the New Orleans Saints, at least at some point during the 2025 season won't be shocked if it's week one. So what are the Browns, what are the Browns going to give up to get Derek Carr? Sixth round pick. See the Saints, see the Saints, see the Saints traded a six round pick to the New England Patriots this offseason in 2026 to get Devon Godshaw here to New Orleans, get him back to Louisiana. So what the Saints can do is call up

the Cleveland Browns and say, hey, if you got a six round pick, you don't have to fight for him on the market with the Indianapolis Colts. Just give that six round pick back and then all good. You know what I mean? So I think that's that's the play here. Yeah. Perfect. You know, so I thought it was funny. I found this Yahoo Sports, I don't know if we're allowed to shout out other outlets, I found this thing from another outlet. And most of their quarterback takes are listed with a name. There are a couple late rounders especially that are like written as staff, but the first one that's

written as staff is Dillon Gabriel, Cleveland Brown's third round pick quarterback out of Oregon. And I mean, it basically just is kind of highlights the entire weekend where just basically slams Gabriel for happening to happening to be the guy that gets drafted by the Browns before they draft Sider Sanders. If there's somebody I feel bad about the Sider Sanders story, it's actually Dylan Gabriel because he didn't pick who picked him He didn't pick other teams to pass over him and he certainly didn't pick to be the guy taking right before

Shit or Sanders got taken yet. He's getting a lot a lot of Strays here Kevin Ostricher. I want to ask you this When training camp ends if you have to predict and you have to because I'm putting on spot as an AFC North representative who is higher on the Browns depth chart Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders? I thought you were gonna go who's starting. I would have said Joe Flacco. I'm not gonna go that far just yet. But uh if I had to pick which one I'm gonna say it's gonna be Dylan Gabriel and I just think that's because I

would hope that Cleveland and again maybe I'm hoping for a little too much but I hope that Cleveland will do the right thing and be fair in the process and not just give it to Chidor because of all of the coverage. And I think that it's not that Chidor isn't talented. I'm not trying to say that whatsoever, but I think that Gabriel fits a little more of what they want to do. And I think that he's a little more ready for them right now. Now, are they going to want a Superbowl? I don't know about all that. All right, Kevin, you're going to get the rise out of me. You were trying to get for me when you said that the Carolina Panthers are going

to win the NFC. So I wanted that. But OK, I'll allow it. That is the worst take I've ever heard you give. That is the worst thing I've ever heard you get. Well, then it's the worst take you're going to give to because you're both dead wrong. Shadr or Sanders is clearly the better quarterback than Dylan Gabriel.

What the hell are you doing? I don't care where they were drafted, where they weren't drafted. It even like that. Shador Sanders is clearly the better quarterback between those two. Dylan Gabriel is not going to be an NFL quarterback. He's going to be in the U.F.L. in two years. He's not even six foot. He's like five, 10. He's not going to be above anybody on a depth chart.

What are we doing through the fastest mile per hour at the senior except no, he didn't. Except no, he definitely did not. Like, what are we doing? Like, I understand. I get it. I get it. Like from the Shador Sanders has a bad attitude side and stuff like that. Like I'll go so far as to do that. But to pretend like the kid is the worst is like the worst quarterback in his class, just absolutely ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. I don't think he's the worst quarterback in this. If you think he's behind Dylan Gabriel, the worst quarterback in this class, then yes, you think he's the worst quarterback is the thing. The Browns are gonna have to make a decision.

And I thought Ian Rappaport nailed it. Nobody wants the circus for a backup quarterback. That's why Thibaut was out of the league. That's why Manziel was out of the league. And I'm not saying that Chidor isn't as or more talented than those guys. But the Browns are already a dumpster fire. They're not inviting in the media that

hyped this guy up to be a top five pick when he was very clearly a backup with starter possible potential, but they're not going to want the media asking after every game when they're struggling when is Shador going to start. They don't want all the cameras during training camps surrounding Shador. It's then why would Dilling Gabriel be ahead of him? You're contradicting yourself. That makes no sense. They're gonna. They'll cut it. They're not wait for the squad show after the Browns cut him because they don't want to deal with the crap that comes to him.

Oh, no, I know. They're not. Now we're just now we're just not going to leave. Now we're just openly being ridiculous. They're not going to. Yeah, I should be ashamed of yourself. They cut your absolute. Yeah, they're not going to cut shit.

That is the worst. I'm no more of this conversation. I was like, how did Dylan Gabriel get drafted before Will Howard? Like do you talk about a guy who interviews well and did well? That was crazy to me. Listen, the Dylan Gabriel pick, that is the moment where everybody in the commanders media room sat there and said, Oh, this is personal personal. Yeah, this is this is personal personal Cody work locks on Broncos. You know a thing or two about rookie quarterback

showing up and showing out. So I want to ask you this question. Quinn yours last quarterback taken 231 overall to the Miami Dolphins. Listen, I'm not wishing it on the guy. I have a lot of conversations. I'm not going to win right now. A lot of conversations about about two a tongue by low with Marcus Mariotta was very close to two. A genuine conversations about the young man's health and future and everything else. So I'm not wishing it, but we all know and have to acknowledge

that the Dolphins starting quarterback has a long history sheet and everybody's kind of just braces for the next one. Unfortunately Is there a chance that if the situation comes up where Quinn yours has to go in there for the Dolphins that he's the next Brock party No, I don't think that's gonna be the case I think they have a guy in that roster that could do that already in Zach Wilson But though granted Zach Wilson's a former first-round pick. I think Zach Wilson be a great a better fit There was a little bit of a running meme that, you know, with Quinn

Ewers that every, every pick he didn't get drafted or every round that passed before he got drafted and another animal died. If you looked at his background, I get an, Oh, that's where you're at. Did he have a T-Rex head up there? So he had a dinosaur head up there. I don't know if that was real or if somebody photoshopped that, but I couldn't help but wonder, I was like, what are we going to see on the next camera here? I don't see that necessarily with Quinn Uwors. It's interesting to see. I mean, I think you're going to see a lot of NFL teams, particularly like situations where their quarterback has been banged up, carry three on the active roster.

It's a risky move because then you have to designate that guy as your emergency guy. Quinn Uwors could end up on the practice squad essentially for Miami or maybe another NFL team there. But I was talking about Will Howard a little bit ago. I like him in Pittsburgh. I thought he interviewed well. We watched Gruden's quarterback class. This is a guy who competes well.

But for me, if I'm looking at any quarterback, I mean, Tyler Shucks probably gonna play right away and have more of an impact right now. So we're not even talking about cam ward for all things. Can't know one overall. Yeah, we're talking about quarterback. Yeah, ward. Cam ward is the guy, guy who went first overall and it's hardly been talked about because of shooter or Sanders and the whole saga there.

So I feel bad there. Check out locked on Titans with Tyler rolling. He's going to go off on all that. But yeah, I actually talk about cam ward in the process, by the way. Yeah. Actually talking about, he's going to do it. I think cam cam's going to have, I think he's gonna have a pretty solid season this year.

I'm very curious. Seattle plays out, but like for your new Orleans saints, I think there's going to be more of a spotlight because of who the saints are as a franchise and some of the storylines you've got a lava. You've got Alvin Camara. Like they like they want to find a way to salvage you even said it Ross I know you did it on the Saint squad show how I mean they kind of committed to a rebuild essentially without really saying that they did that was the

path there and you got to let the young guy experience those bullets I think retooling right is like the popular phrase for we don't want to say rebuild that's what we're doing renovate retool yeah we, loading, things like that. So Aaron Freeman locked on Falcons. Let's wrap it up here. You also covered a rookie quarterback last year, and he had a very interesting situation where, you know, veteran was starting ahead of them. Things weren't going well, so they made the move.

They went to the young guy. There's a couple of situations like that. Obviously, New Orleans Saints, you know, things aren't going well with their veteran before the season gets here New York Giants made no mistake about it if Russell Wilson struggles early on that staff They don't have time so so Jackson Dart could get thrown in the fire very quickly Of course cam ward by the way the number one overall pick an NFL draft here in the 33rd minute of this NFL draft Squad show of Cody doesn't cut a lot of stuff out of this. So I'll ask you if the next offensive rookie of the year is like the last two offensive rookies of the year and it is a quarterback, which do you think it is most likely going to be? And why is

it Dylan Gabriel from Cleveland Browns? I was just, I was just going to say it. All left-handed quarterbacks are elite quarterbacks. That's all I know. Dylan Gabriel absolutely will be an elite quarterback too. Michael Pinnix Jr. Dylan Gabriel. It's just gonna be the holy trinity of quarterback. No, of course. I do like Dylan Gabriel probably more than the rest of this panel, but he's not gonna be the offensive rookie of the year. If we're talking about a quarterback, obviously it's going to be Cam Ward if anybody from this quarterback class is gonna win it Obviously, I think Ashton Gentey is probably the favorite just because of the nature of the position he plays. We know he's going to get the football. Everybody's sort of wondering, okay, you know, how good is this Tennessee offense going to be with Cam Ward?

It has the potential to be very good. They add in Tyler Lockett. They have my guy Calvin Ridley there. They really revamped the O line and whatnot. And so you could see the pathway for this Titans offense making a significant jump this year that could make Cam Ward the runaway favorite for the offensive rookie of the year. Now, I'm not going to put the Jaden Daniels expectations on him or the Joe Burrow or you know, whoever else you want to put as elite rookie quarterbacks expectations on Cam Ward. But there is a path. Things click into place. Cam Warden at Tennessee Titans team could be a much more competitive team in an AFC South and I think a

lot of people expect them to be going into the draft. Yeah, absolutely. So that's a good way to wrap up this NFL squad post 2025 NFL draft episode. Thank you all. Make sure you're following all of us in our respective locked on NFL shows because you're getting a lot of coverage and a lot of information. We are all part of the lockdown podcast network, your team every day.