Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - NFL Squad: Could the Tennessee Titans Be A Destination For Derek Carr, Aaron Rodgers?

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

In this week's NFL Squad, the crew discusses which teams are closer to the Philadelphia Eagles after their Super Bowl win, which NFL trade makes sense for Aaron Rodgers, Deebo Samuel, or Cooper Kupp. ...Plus, the squad discusses the ideal fit for their respective teams in the NFL Draft.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLFanDuelRight now, new FanDuel customers can get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in Bonus Bets if your first FIVE DOLLAR bet wins!Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.  FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It was a no doubter for the Philadelphia Eagles and Super Bowl 59, but which team can be close to dethroning them in 2025? It's time for NFL Squad. You are talking ball with the NFL Squad. From the Chiefs to the Bills, Falcons to the 49ers, and everyone else around the NFL, it's the local experts of the Locked On Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming weekend for hard hitting football with our harder hitting tape. Buckle up. It's the NFL squad. Then we have a seat for you. No hurt feelings allowed. Squad up. You're part of the NFL squad.
Starting point is 00:00:42 And welcome in everybody to this week's NFL squad. Sit back, grab your favorite beverage and join us as we get you ready for the NFL off season. It's going to be a wild, there's going to be plenty of things happening. T Higgins is going to go somewhere. Uh, Derek Carr is going to play quarterback for an NFL team. Maybe we are part of the Locked On Podcast Network. We're going to talk about all of that stuff because we are covering your team every day and joining me on this week's squad episode, Cody Rourke of Locked On Broncos. As always, Peter Bukowski, Locked On Packers. Fortunately on time this
Starting point is 00:01:14 time, Kevin Ostryker of Locked On Ravens. Mike DeBate of Locked On Patriots, Jamie Yarko of Locked On Bucks. Thank you gentlemen for coming through. Of course, I'm David Harrison of Locked On Commanders, your favorite DI hosts to make sure all those bases there for this week's squad episode. The Philadelphia Eagles gentlemen, the Philadelphia Eagles made, made pretty quick work of the Kansas City Chiefs and Super Bowl 59 got their big win. Second Lombardi trophy here in recent memory. But the conversation we want to have coming into this week and coming into
Starting point is 00:01:48 everybody's offseason now that every team is in the offseason is which teams are the closest to competing with Philadelphia. And I actually want to go to Peter Bukowski first as I love your takes on a lot of these things, but I want to give you Dak Prescott's take first. And I figure Packers Cowboys, why not? Let's do it. Dak Prescott said, quote, I figure Packers Cowboys Why not let's do it Dak Prescott said quote I feel like we've that's the Dallas Cowboys Competed with the Eagles and beat them for the most part when we've played them
Starting point is 00:02:12 I don't want to say check the record as in James Winston telling you to check the stat sheet James knows what I'm talking about When the other guy is holding the trophy right so credit to them They've earned it and they deserve it by all means but yeah, we're very close end quote Peter Bukowski How close are the Dallas, right? So credit to them. They've earned it and they deserve it by all means. But yeah, we're very close. End quote. Peter Bacowski. How close are the Dallas Cowboys? Are we talking? We're talking about the Dallas Cowboys, right? Like not a different, the last time these two teams played Philadelphia 141 to seven, the time before that Philadelphia 134 to six. What are they close? Not understand back and quarterbacks, but go back to last year, the Eagles handled those matchups too. So like, what? Now I understand back and quarterbacks, but go back to last year, the Eagles handled those matchups too. So like, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:57 I think, and this will make one person on this stream happy. I think there is one AFC team this year that had a good shot and it was the Ravens and they were just not able to get there. And I talked to Kevin About it after that game that we saw what week was that Kevin when when those two teams? square 14 14 13 13 but That was the team where I was like Once Philadelphia beat that team. I was kind of like hmm I don't know if they if if Baltimore can't do it I don't know if anyone's gonna beat this, if Baltimore can't do it, I don't know if anyone's going to beat this team. And I think that's where I am right now. It is Philadelphia and everyone else to me right now.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Are we sure the Cowboys aren't closer to a rebuild than they are a Superbowl right now? Like they're closer to trading away. Micah Parsons and they are being right. I mean, they're going to lose to Marcus Lawrence. The, this, this off season, most likely you, like you mentioned the Micah Parsons deal. I mean honestly guys last off season, I was talking on Lockdown NFL about Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott both going into 2024 with expiring contracts and the Cowboys being in the perfect spot to essentially blow it up without totally blowing up like keep CD maybe
Starting point is 00:03:58 keep Micah draft capital money freeze up and you can do some good things for your franchise and then they went ahead and threw a whole lot of money at, at, at Dak Prescott. Certainly CD land as well is deserving, but yeah, they kind of hammered that, uh, that whole thing. So I think most of us would agree. Not landing McCool is not here to stop us. The Dallas Cowboys not as close as Dak Prescott would like to David, is there anything more annoying than watching the Cowboys get blown out and Dak
Starting point is 00:04:22 Prescott down 30 points and we're saying, yeah, here we we go. Like that's gotta go. Like at some point, I understand it's part of your snap cadence, but my God, it's a sound bite. Now I want to know if the other quarter, that was the best when you, I remember Cooper rush down 30 to the Eagles and he's going, here we go. I'm like, I gotta know. I want to know how stupid he feels being out there doing that. That's, that's my, I feel bad for him every time I hear him do that. But we got four options here, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:46 We've got four options here that we want to talk about that, uh, our candidates to be closer than Dallas, um, which I think there's definitely more than four candidates that are closer than Dallas, but I want to throw this over to Mike, Mike, the Bay, you know, a thing or two about covering Superbowl teams. Um, even though it hasn't been recent, but you know, so, so let's, let's, let's give you the four options here Washington Buffalo Baltimore and Green Bay. Which of those four do you think is the closest and why is Green Bay last on those?
Starting point is 00:05:13 You know, I'm not going to do my buddy Peter do that dirty David, you know better than that. No bottom line. Look, I'm looking at these teams right now and I think all of these teams are maybe a move or two away from being able to challenge the Philadelphia Eagles, but they have to do what the Eagles did, invest in the trenches and the team that's willing to do that, I think, is the team that's going a competitor with the Patriots. Obviously they're head and shoulders above the New England Patriots right now. But you had a pass rush into that defense. All of a sudden Buffalo's looking a whole lot better this year than they did this year and they had a very good season in 2024. Baltimore the same thing you add a piece here and there and all of a sudden, this team has arguably and I will say this and Kevin's gonna like this. The best quarterback right now in league, maybe Sands Patrick
Starting point is 00:06:07 Mahomes because I still consider him the best until someone completely dethrones him from what he does well. I'm always gonna give that nod to him. But Green Bay is another team that's extremely intriguing. An awful lot of talent on all three phases. All they need is something to tie it all together. I think any one of these teams right now is so close and right on the cusp of being able to compete. And your team, the Washington commanders, I think is the most intriguing because right now they're dealing with the young quarterback that knows how good he is.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And I believe that a lot of people would love and jump at the chance to wanna play alongside of Jaden Daniels because they know that the future is bright and they're going to be able to build with a young quarterback. So I think right now all four have a shot. If you're putting my back to the wall, I'm going to go with the team that I know best. And I'm going to say Buffalo because I know them well enough and I know that they're right there to be able to compete. But it wouldn't shock me to see any one of these teams get a strong challenge to the Philadelphia Eagles in 2025. Kevin, if it's one piece for Baltimore, what is the one piece?
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's definitely a pass rusher. And I say that because they just need a game record there. I mean, Adapte always had a great season. He had double digit sacks and that was what you wanted to see. If Kyle Vannoy has revived this career, Mike, I know that he had some, a couple of great years over there in New England, but if those are your top two, you do have some questions about do they have enough juice for a full season? So a lot of people talk about like, do they need a third wide receiver? Offensive line
Starting point is 00:07:34 will be a big question mark for them. Ronnie Stanley is a free agent, but man, if they could add a pass rusher, which by the way, if Cleveland just wants to send Miles Garrett over into BG, I would- Good luck with that. Maybe their package might be three firsts for miles Garrett Baltimore wise, but I would say pass rusher is Baltimore's piece. Now I walked past miles Garrett while we were in New Orleans, Peter, I don't think I told you the story. Walk past miles Garrett and his group of people. Um, and I said to him, miles,
Starting point is 00:08:01 if you want to go to Washington and ignore me completely, dude, didn't even, in my direction, bro. I mean, you know look, I don't want to call breaking news But you might might be onto something there. Mike Evans is out there talking about how great he's gonna look in buccaneer red so I mean Yeah, the box wouldn't have to pay that a FC tax Mike is a little bit more biased than I am Cody Roark logs on Broncos. I do want to ask you this question before we get out of this segment here. Let's put the Ravens on the table. We all know the Cleveland Broncos are not sending Miles Garrett to the
Starting point is 00:08:32 Baltimore Ravens, but in a world where it could potentially happen, commanders, bills, Ravens, Packers, which of these four teams do you think you add Miles Garrett, you're automatically starting to plan your trip to Super Bowl 60. So commanders, bills, Ravens Packers. I mean, the Ravens would be a great addition. That's individual, not likely to happen, though. I know we argued the other day when we did the show about if
Starting point is 00:08:57 you're Cleveland, you don't need to do what's best for miles. Garrett, do what's best for yourself as the organization. If you're going to be getting rid of him, I'd say Green Bay with the defense that those guys already have, you add miles Garrett to that defense. Now granted, I'm curious, Peter, what that secondary is going to look like this year. I know it's always Jair Alexander watch over there. Is he going to be, you know, what's going on with that? I feel like Green Bay would be appealing Buffalo, man. If they added him to Buffalo, I mean, I feel like it would be game over for everybody. You have him, Greg Russo, Vaughn Miller at all over. My gosh. Don't know what you do with that on paper. I'm very curious to see where they're going to, where
Starting point is 00:09:32 they end up. Buffalo, you have the most dominant physically dominant defensive player and the most physically dominant offensive player in the league on the same team. That would be, that might be what gets them up against Kansas City. Lamar Jackson, but I'm just talking about like the ability to physically overpower guys at 240 to run over linebackers. I know Lamar can run around them. I'm just talking about like force. We're talking about here. That would be fun as hell. Throw a couple of plays of miles and Josh in the same backfield and that ball off. We know they, we know they play six offensive linemen, like get Miles Garrett out there to catch a touchdown pass, do the full TJ or TJ watt, JJ watt. Like that'd be fun as hell.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I think miles is going to need some incentives in his contract if he's going to, uh, if he's going to line up on their salary cap situation is a mess. So I don't know. So I mean, Miles Garrett, I think, I think bottom line, like, and who knows how long this is gonna take but like Miles Garrett Ultimately is going to be one of the if not the top move that gets made this offseason because I don't think anybody believes that Cleveland Browns are actually able to hold on to them So we'll wait for news on that whenever that potentially could come but there's also some other news that we need to tackle There was a day where Peter Bukowski and the Green Bay Packers would talk about Aaron Rogers and a very glowing light.
Starting point is 00:10:46 There was also a day where there were some people who thought that Aaron Rogers might be the heir apparent to Tom Brady in Tampa. Uh, these days, the question is who wants Aaron Rogers just at all. We'll talk about that next on this week's NFL squad part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's NFL squad show is brought to you by our friend over there at LinkedIn Jobs. And as a small business owner, your work doesn't end when the clock hits five. Your business, it's always on your mind, which means when it's time to hire, you need a partner
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Starting point is 00:12:11 off season, but there's plenty of stuff going on in the National Football League. So we will be here for you doing these squad episodes all off season long. Aaron Rogers once considered to be you know, best of the best, maybe the best in
Starting point is 00:12:25 the league. Their arguments is him, is Tom Brady, is it whatever. Nowadays, Aaron Rodgers more of a just, I don't want to call him a plague, but like for lack of a better term. James Jargon, I want to go to you because Peter's gonna say a lot and I want to get you out of the way. There was a time and this was theory, this was not reporting or substantiated planning or anything like, but there was a theory at one point in time. People lined up. They said, you know about the time Tom Brady retires and the NFL Aaron Rogers might come available from Green Bay. Maybe he just follows Tom down to Florida and wins another ring for the Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Take us back to that version of Aaron Rogers and this version of Aaron Rogers and what has kind of changed in the, in the overall, just, just, just your opinion of this quarterback, who's clearly a Hall of Famer, but has done a lot to damage his own reputation. Well, and that was even the second theory of Aaron Rodgers being a Bucs. Remember, John Gruden promised him that he was going to draft him to be the Bucs quarterback if he's sitting there. Instead, he takes Cadillac Williams, the rest is history. But you know, it's the fall off has been astounding. Like we saw the drop off for Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:13:33 going into his last year with Denver, like the year before he was great. And then all of a sudden that drop off was just straight off of a cliff. And we've seen it now with Rogers. Does it have to do with the Achilles injury? Was he never fully recovered from that? Is he never going to completely bounce back from that?
Starting point is 00:13:49 I don't know. Is it the fact that the New York Jets- Is that Alaska now? The New York Jets seem to have this aura around them where no matter how good of a quarterback you are, as soon as you put on that green and white, you suck. Like there's no getting or you just suck. And then you can leave and you can go to the Minnesota Vikings and you can go to the NFC championship. You're terrible. I don't
Starting point is 00:14:17 understand. And and I'm sorry to Jets fans listening to this, but you know, I'm right. It's kind of like Cleveland. you know, Bakers in Cleveland. He's bad. He leaves now. He's phenomenal. Deshaun Watson was good, goes to Cleveland. He's terrible. It just keeps happening to these same franchises. So I don't know if this is an Aaron Rodgers problem. I don't know if this is a New York Jets problem, but I don't know what team takes a shot on Aaron Rodgers at this stage in the
Starting point is 00:14:48 game to be a starter. I mean, I guess teams could bring him and say you can compete, but Rogers isn't going to do that. He's an ego maniac. He's not going to compete for a job. So I don't this. This could be the end of Aaron Rodgers as far as we're concerned, because who's going to take that chance? I have the answer. So nobody here is in the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes. So I do want to turn it over to you, Peter.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I'm not even going to ask you a question. Just Peter Bukowski, eight minutes of Aaron Rodgers go. When Adam Schefter said recently that he thought Devontae Adams would come with, my first thought was Pittsburgh Steelers. Because in a vacuum, I don't think it makes sense for Aaron Rodgers to go to Las Vegas, or for Vegas frankly to want Aaron Rodgers. The same is true in Nashville with the Tennessee Titans,
Starting point is 00:15:40 even though our pal Tyler Rowland, who is a mad man, was like, I want Aaron Rodgers. I don't know why you would want that. But if Pittsburgh is going to get Devontae Adams to, all of a sudden that becomes very, very appealing. They want to win now. Listen to ownership at the end of the season. They wanted to make changes.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And then they, guess what? They did nothing because that's what the Pittsburgh Steelers do. This would be something. You bring in Aaron Rodgers. We know the defense is the defense and then you add Devante Adams to George Pickens. Plus you guys, how much fun would all of the content we would get around the reporting with Aaron Rodgers and George Pickens? Are you for real?
Starting point is 00:16:19 That would be the best reality show. Make that, make that hard knocks off season in season before the season. All of the hard knocks. I want those two guys. I want to know everything that's happening at all time between those two guys. And don't you think that would be like a legitimately scary group? Even if Aaron Rodgers is a diminished version of himself, not that they beat the Ravens in a playoff game or they beat the Chiefs, but like they'd be better than they are now. they beat the Ravens in a playoff game or they beat the Chiefs, but like they'd be better than they are now. Well, they'd have to figure out maybe who they'd want to keep between Rogers and the
Starting point is 00:16:50 Sean Elliott. Cause if you saw his comment, Sean Elliott on Instagram said, leave him in the retirement home. So that might, that might cause a little internal conflict, but you know what? I think that's the right choice, Peter. I think that's do you want to pair them together though? Like that's the thing. Like I feel like for Devante Adams at this point, understand Rogers is your boy,
Starting point is 00:17:07 but go out there and get something. You know, I think the jets, everyone, Broncos fans keep saying, Oh, the Broncos should trade for Garrett Wilson. I keep telling him he's not available. Why would he be available at this point? If anyone's available from New York, it's Devante Adams pair. Get Bo Nixon guy like Devante Adams alongside Cortland Sutton. And now we're talking about that, especially, you know, you know, guy like Devontae Adams, who has really great matchups every time
Starting point is 00:17:29 they play against Patrick Surtain, like it's a good battle back and forth. So why not add a veteran guy like that for a second year quarterback like a Bo Nicks or even like send him like, for example, like David, you're telling me that the Jaden Daniels wouldn't benefit from a guy like Devontae Adams alongside Terry. I love these young guys, this is the move to make, send one of these veteran receivers like this to some of these young guys that have something where they're building up or, you know, maybe Devonte Adams ends up back in Green Bay. Look, there's a housing development being built right down the road from the Commander's headquarters in Nashville, Virginia. If Devonte Adams came to Washington, I would buy a house right outside the command facility. And I would just
Starting point is 00:18:05 build a roof and I would. Yes, I would put a Taco Bell in it. Just be like Devante this way. Just don't worry about the border. If if Myles Garrett got traded, would it be the best player in his prime to be traded ever? Luke? Well, not Luca, but I mean, honestly, it's right up there with I mean, Khalil Mack was dominant when he got treated. Yeah, I mean, it'd be up there. That would definitely be a good thing. I was scared to have like two defensive players
Starting point is 00:18:38 a year. Like we're talking about the guy who was who was pretty consensus the best defensive player and yeah, I mean, six time all four times first team, like 30 sacks a year for the last seven years. I'm going crazy like that. Like, yeah, he's a dog, man. Dude, I am curious though, Cody back to Denver. Who would you rather have for Bowdoin next? Devante Adams or Debo Samuel? Ooh, perfect segue. That's great. That's exactly who's next on the, uh, we got to talk about it. Let's talk about Debo Cody.
Starting point is 00:19:06 What do you see? What do you see there? You know, I said, I like Debo and Broncos fans are against Debo. They, you know, I got Broncos fans telling me he's a diva. He's got character issues and I tagged croc and crocs. Like, what are you guys talking about? It's like, I don't know where Broncos fans formulate this opinion. Like, well, he's always injured.
Starting point is 00:19:21 It's played in 15 games each of the last two seasons. And then 13 games a year before the only year he had under 10 games played was he suffered an injury in 2020. I don't want to hit him with pneumonia last year. Yeah. Like all of a sudden, D-Bow's, I mean, look, he don't want to play. Like you choke out one kicker from Michigan and everybody just loses their mind. Hey, um, Mike, I think D-Bow in Washington makes a ton of sense.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I would say Devo. Kevin, I would say Devante. I would say Devante over Devo in this situation because Denver's going younger. They love their young receivers that they're continuing to develop and having a veteran like that would help. Yeah, makes sense. Mike Debate, I do want to ask you West Coast to the East Coast. What's the view on Debo from New England? I'll tell you, New England's open for business. I mean, we basically want everybody. We have nowhere to go but up, and New England needs help at wide receiver. Look, the Patriots kicked the tires on trading for Debo Samuel last year right around the
Starting point is 00:20:18 trade, and there was a consensus at the time that the price was a little bit too high. Now all of a sudden, Debo's coming off of what, sorry to say, San Francisco 49ers fans, a down year statistically. There's one more year off of that contract. He's one year older. Those are the factors that may end up reducing the price a little bit for New England to really seriously throw their hat into the game. Now, I know there are comments out there about Devo not wanting to come up and play in New England. Believe me, most people do not want to play in the weather we're currently
Starting point is 00:20:48 sitting in. It's cold, there's snow all around me right now. Everybody hates it. But bottom line, if you can convince him that playing alongside a young quarterback like Cody, Peter, you guys have been saying, like Drake May, could allow him to showcase his talent, especially in a dual threat, because Josh McDaniels loves to employ these type of players that give him such versatility in his play calling ability. Yeah. If Debo's willing to listen, the Patriots absolutely have to be making this phone call. Wouldn't he get 130 targets in that offense? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Who else are you throwing to? I mean, right now, I mean, other than Hunter Henry right now, who is a security blanket and and rightfully so for Drake May, he'll continue to get his touches. But guys like, you know, it's just, it's unfortunate right now. Demario Douglas is not rounding into the type of receiver that the Patriots need him to be. I think he's got a chance to do it. But he's going to need some help. Jalen Polk, Javon Baker, not looking like the type of picks the Patriots thought they were getting last year. There's a lot of upheaval in that wide receiver room. And, you know, Todd Downing coming in now and coaching that group. He's never coached wide receivers before. So it's going to be a tough sell for any big time receiver to want to come here and play in New England. But that aura that's surrounding Drake May is going to have to be a huge selling point. And for the first time in a long while, the Patriots have
Starting point is 00:22:07 to take the wallet out of the back pocket of Robert Kraft, and they have to be willing to go ahead and open it and over pay for some of these guys. The only way they're going to be able to bring themselves up out of that doldrum. My recommendation out of Tampa. I'm sorry. Is Godwin going to get out of Tampa?
Starting point is 00:22:23 No. Yes, he is. No. Anybody that has this this premonition that Chris Godwin's gonna be available? No. The answer is no and it's it's for a multitude of reasons. Number one, his his market value isn't anywhere close to as high as it would have been had he not had his ankle dislocated by an illegal hip drop tackle, Kevin. But. Which the fine was rescinded by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:49 It was nonsense is what it was. But it's actually cheaper for the Buccaneers to keep Chris Godwin than to let him walk. Godwin and his wife just had a baby. Do they wanna leave Tampa? I mean, obviously there's gonna be money out there, but the Bucs are going to pony up. You saw it with Mike Evans. He had the opportunity to go to the Chiefs, to go to the Texans. The Rams
Starting point is 00:23:08 were involved. He wanted to stay in Tampa. Godwin wants to stay in Tampa. Tampa wants to keep him. It helps both sides. A deal is going to get done. Even if that means they got to franchise them again to get that extended negotiating window, Godwin's not going anywhere. Well, I do have a recommendation. That's true. Chris, I was not going anywhere but Washington. My Washington, David. The thing for Mike and the Patriots is the Ravens had this wide receiver this past year. He was a great locker room
Starting point is 00:23:35 presence. I think you could really use him. His name is Deontay Johnson. Now the Ravens can get a comp pick if the Patriots sign them for a big contract and look, the perfect guy for Drake may in that locker room you're talking about spending money getting some vets in there because we can help each other out here. Sign Antonio Brown while you're at it. I mean just my mighty have fallen. Oh man. The fact that I even have to consider this is really, really disheartening, Kevin. Yeah, I don't know if the Patriots are quite that desperate. Not that I'm talking that, not from a pure skill sets situation, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's probably, yeah, I don't think the Patriots do it. I'll be diplomatic.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I'll try to get them back on the Steelers for Chris next time he pops in the news. I'll be diplomatic. I'll try to get him on back on the Steelers for Chris next time he pops in. David, we got a super producer Ross. He heard us talking about Aaron Rodgers and he said he really had to share his thoughts and we're not the Saints under new head coach, Kellen Moore should pursue a guy like Aaron Rodgers. He was itching. He said, we got, he said, I got to get on and talk about it.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Here's Ross Jackson folks. Nah, I'm good. Beautifully put. Make sure you're locked on saints for more in-depth analysis. Is your cars on the move is like what makes sense for him. Like there's been now this reporting that, Hey, Kellan Moore's coming in and they may, they may move on from Derek Carr. Is there, could he go back to Las Vegas? That would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:04 That would be interesting. Tennessee John Gruden ends up on that staff. I could see Tennessee, maybe Tennessee. I could see Tennessee before Las Vegas for sure. Just tell Tyler Rowland to get Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr in there just let him battle it out. Just let him figure out. With Will Levis. With Will Levis. Will Levis will never ask if they're actually fighting. But Shadir Sanders is number one. Why not? Speaking of draft picks, four of the five guys sitting here in this week's NFL squad had their teams that they cover in the tournament. What is their draft crush that they could possibly target in the first round of the upcoming NFL draft this year to get them over the hump and get them closer to their own Lombardi. We'll do that next on this week's NFL squad,
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Starting point is 00:27:12 NFL draft coming up in a few or two short months. I should say two and a half short months, give or take. Who is the draft pick that reasonably right? Let's not go like number one overall guy on the board when you're picking it like 25 Tampa Bay. I don't know. It's what's Tampa Bay at James Arco? 271919. Oh, 19. Wow. Why did I go that high? Anyway, um, so don't do that. But who is your draft crush to get your team over the hump to be able to beat the Philadelphia Eagles or whoever it's going to be in Super Bowl 60. Let's start with Cody Rourke. Let's start with the Denver Broncos, a surprising contender this year. We just did an episode of lockdown
Starting point is 00:27:55 Broncos where we talked about how Denver can get back to Super Bowl 60, which happens to be 10 years after they were in Super Bowl 50 where they won it in Santa Clara where this year, it's going to be in Santa Clara. So hey, maybe some storybook writing right there. Look, this is tough because for Denver, you know, obviously they got their guy in bone next, they got a quarterback, right? So what do you do? Do you add pieces around bone next in the NFL draft or do you build the defense? Right? I think people watch the Super Bowl and saw what Philadelphia did just with their front four, you know, 0% blitz rate. And you had as many hits on Patrick Mahomes, many sacks on him.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That, that is incredible. So Broncos country split between offense and defense so much, I think is contingent upon how they address free agency. So let's say that they go out and free agency and they get a joker, whoever that may be, could be Debo Samuel. They, if they do decide to do that, or they could get a veteran receiver, like a Cooper cup, or, you know, like I said, adding Debo to the mix do decide to do that or they could get a veteran receiver like a Cooper Cup or you know like I said adding Debo to the mix here. To me you have to wonder if they're going to go defense with their first round pick which would not be popular amongst Broncos fans right
Starting point is 00:28:53 because the number one thing I think Denver needs right now defensively a rangy athletic sideline to sideline linebacker. I think that was also a key that Philadelphia had obviously that I think played dividends to them. I mean Zach Bond was a low bargain signing for them this off season, turned out to be an incredible pickup for them. And now he's in line to get a contract extension, which I'm not sure how big that's going to be. I imagine he's going to stay in Philly. It could be D Tackle. It could be linebacker. It could be running back. It could be tight end. But Broncos fans right now, if you ask them, they want to do mock drafts right now, which is crazy to me. A lot of them have the Broncos taking Ashton Genti, 20th overall. I don't know if I'm a fan of going running back that high, especially in the first round, because also the mileage he has
Starting point is 00:29:33 on his legs there, or even Tyler Warren or Colston Loveland, tight end out of obviously Penn State and Michigan there. That might be where Sean Payton ultimately decides to go, because you got Bo Nicks on a rookie contract, try to maximize it and build that offense as much as you can with some playmakers. Yeah. Um, I want to go, let's see, let's, let's alternate conferences here. Let's go James Yarko. So Chris Godwin's in Washington, unfortunately for you and your incorrect coverage of this situation. Um, where do the Buccaneers need to go in the first round? Uh, to, to once again,
Starting point is 00:30:04 reclaim the division title known as the biggest loser belt, but also, uh, the Rock and ears need to go in the first round to to once again reclaim the division title known as the biggest loser belt, but also potentially over the really instead of the AFC South, we're going to throw that at the at the NFC South. There's no AFC South people here. I'm sorry. Rocko's early NFC South champions. I mean good grief. There's two teams in the NFL that have made the last five years and one of them is Tampa. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:30:27 Godwin gets resigned. No big deal. The Bucs trade for Miles Garrett. No big deal. So then what do they need? No, the the dream for for the Bucs is probably Mike Green. I don't think he falls to 19. I think he's going to get drafted a lot higher than that. So the the guy that I've talked about a lot on Locked on Bucks that has been my big draft crush is Benjamin Morrison, the corner out of Notre Dame. And this is a guy probably would have been the second corner off the board. You're looking at top 10 at the latest top 15 pick. He's easily going to slide now. Went out with an injury in October, had hip surgery. But this is a lockdown, shutdown guy. It's a massive upgrade over Jamel Dean, who I think is going to be a cap casualty bucks can free up 13 million by designating him a June 1 cut. So Benjamin Morrison, a guy that should be
Starting point is 00:31:15 a top 10 pick falling to them at 19 to upgrade that secondary. The bucks need a corner, they need an inside linebacker and they need an edge rusher. And all of a sudden, they are in contention in the NFC, you know, to go to the NFC championship, potentially go to the Super Bowl, one of the best offenses in the NFL last year. So Benjamin Morrison is a guy that I look at and I'm like, this guy helps the past coverage so so much. I would love for the Bucks to be able to get him. Yeah. And look, uh, Devin White is available. Not every day. $100 million linebackers is on the market. So hard pass.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Bobby Wagner, Bobby Wagner and the Bobby Wagner and going nowhere. Shut your mouth. Devin Ostryker locked on Raven. What do you need? NFL draft to get? No, if I can't have Chris, you're not touching Bobby. Um, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. James finished. That was really rude to me. Go ahead and finish. Yeah, go ahead. Finish up James. Finish up. Oh, that I'm I'm I'm done. Benjamin Morrison, Chris Godwin, Miles Garrett, Bobby Wagner, Super Bowl 60. Let's do this. Make it happen. Kevin, I'll strike a
Starting point is 00:32:17 lock on Ravens. What do you got? Well, look, we're all just gonna assume your mouth here is going to the Ravens. So that's okay. We'll put them into vision. We'll do that. You know, that's my that's my agenda. So assuming that does happen and the Ravens are good at pass rusher, like we talked about, I've seen this guy go a bunch of different places and mocks, but the Ravens do need some offensive line help. Ronnie Stanley is going to be a free agent. They're starting guard. Patrick McGarry is going to be a free agent too. I think they might look at guard and that guy could be Tyler Booker, the Alabama guard who I think think that for I've seen him go mid, like early mid first, I've seen him drop
Starting point is 00:32:49 to day two, which I personally think is going to happen. I think he'll go much earlier than that on day one. But the Ravens, they need like this big massive hulking guard that can fit into their offensive line. Tyler Booker is someone that is like that consensus guy at that position. And so for the Ravens, they already have a couple of building blocks. I mean, you have Linderbaum, you have Roger Rosengarden who stepped up and you can flip him from the right side to the left side depending on what their offseason looks like. If you can add another, I would say foundational piece in Tyler Booker to
Starting point is 00:33:19 that line to open up run lanes for Derek Henry to protect Lamar Jackson and you have Linderbom's throwing his rookie deal, three stud offensive linemen on rookie contracts that will allow you in for agency or maybe even you wanna trade for somebody like a Miles Garrett, you can go out there and you can make that move because the offensive line market is unreal right now.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I mean, Robert Hunt got a hundred million from Carolina last off season and what Damien Lewis got like 60 something. So it's really important to have these young star players on rookie contracts at that position because that offensive line market is only going to go up there and the Ravens are not in a cap position to go and spend all this money. If Ronnie Stanley prices himself out, it probably won't take that much
Starting point is 00:34:01 because they have other needs they have to look at. So offensive line, I think Tyler Book would be a really good fit. Yeah, absolutely. And Peter Bukowski, it's interesting. I want to hear what you have to say because man, I was watching that Packers Eagles playoff game and there was definitely a stretch there. I remember I messaged James actually. I was like, bro, the Packers should be winning this game going away.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So if that happens, I mean, you know, who knows what else I saw at Peter's tweets during the Superbowl about just like the man, the Packers aren't far off. Well, that for as bad as it felt to watch in real time, um, without their top three receivers and their best offensive lineman, that was a one score game late in the third and early in the fourth quarter. Uh, this, this is the Packers defense played held up the Eagles to the lowest point total in the playoffs, like by a huge margin. So this Packers defense, I think is ready to take that next step.
Starting point is 00:34:51 They need Devontae Adams in this building is really the reality. Like you want to talk about a draft crush? Let's deal with this first because I think Devontae Adams playing a little footsie on K Adam show and has been doing this for weeks. Now you got Keyshawn Nixon and Josh Jacobs basically actively recruiting him, Xavier McKinney actively recruiting him to come to Green Bay. They're putting a lot of pressure on this front office to make a move like that. So all miles Garrett jokes aside, Devante Adams, I think is that one guy who could,
Starting point is 00:35:19 who could come in. Let me give you two quick names in the draft. Jaden Higgins,iggins at the senior bowl. He was outstanding at 6'4", 215. He's all of that 215, too. He's a different type of receiver than the Packers currently have. Can win with his size, but also as a route runner,
Starting point is 00:35:37 a guy that big should not be able to move the way that he does. If he runs fast, I'm not gonna be surprised if he winds up top of the second, late first even. And then another sleeper, and it was actually Damian Parson who put me onto this player. And I watched the tape and I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:52 why is no one talking about this guy? Noel Williams, the corner from Cal. He was on Dan Bruegler's big board in the top 100. Led major college football in interceptions last year, led the ACC in path breakups at 61200. He can run, he can tackle, he has ball production. Those guys usually don't get out of the top 100. The Packers, I think, will take multiple corners in this draft, and
Starting point is 00:36:12 I think he would be able to come in right away and compete to start for them. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm a big fan of Jayden Higgins. Actually, I was able to get my hands on the senior bowl practice tape. I mean, not hard to get, but- Hands off, commanders. Yeah, I mean, look, the Packers picked first bowl practice tape. I mean, not hard. Hands off commanders. I mean, look, the Packers picked first, you know what I mean? So if he's there, if he's there, it's, it's, it's the Packers fault. Um, well, I want to ask you real quick, what would it, what would a trade look like? Cause you kind of look at like the jets traded, what a competitive story or not
Starting point is 00:36:36 a competitive story, conditional third round pick, uh, to get him. So what would it take to get him from the jets? You think? Well, they got to cut him is the problem. He's 35 million this year. He's owed on and so you're not going to pay that. So actually, it's funny, Yorko, because I've been using the Mike Evans deal as the proxy. So you give up something to the Jets. I have suggested just Jairo Alexander for Devante Adams straight up. Dantevian Wicks too. It's just it's just
Starting point is 00:37:03 let's take you take our problem and we'll take yours. And because I don't think Jairo Alexander is gonna be back on this team. And you're basically just assuring the right to negotiate with him exclusively, right? On a new deal. Cause he's not gonna play on that number. So I've been saying the Mike Evans deal with interest.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Makes a ton of sense. Like 21, 22 million a year with a void year at the end, come in for two years. Let's go compete to win a Super Bowl and then, you know, right off into the sunset. He'd be welcomed back as a conquering hero in Green Bay. And I think he's exactly what they need on third and eight. What's the play? Well, it can be Devante.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That can be your answer. I think every other team in the playoffs in the NFC had an answer. The Packers didn't. And I think that's a credit to Matt LaFleur and Brian Gudekens and the staff that they put together, the offense they put together. But you need, ultimately you need that guy. And frankly, it's one of the reasons why the Chiefs came up short is they didn't, they didn't have that guy either because Kelsey is capital T toast. So I think you could do it. I think you
Starting point is 00:37:59 could do it for a day three pick, but I think the player for player thing would be pretty enticing for, for the Jets. So I'm glad you said it that way because here's my draft crush, uh, two first round picks for miles Garrett. So that's our first round pick and a fifth rounder and a fifth rounder and Jonathan Allen for Devante Adams. That is, that is how we're going to, that's how we're going to execute. That's going to make for a very long, boring draft weekend for me,
Starting point is 00:38:23 sitting in Ashburn, but very exciting March. Uh, well I'll be in Green Bay. I'll enjoy it. Yeah, absolutely. So, so there's my, there's my answer to the draft question. Um, leave it to me to cheat on my own question, but Mike debate, uh, unfortunately, buddy, we know you got like, you know, the Pats are a couple of years away. Probably you never know. You know what I mean? But, but who who you got your eye on for New England? Well,
Starting point is 00:38:46 and having talked to Scott Piolli a couple of years ago in terms of draft strategy and what went on when he was in the room with Bill Belichick. And then of course moving on to teams like the Chiefs and the Falcons, Scott told me if you're a player or two away draft for need, if you're more than that, you draft for generational talent, the best player available. And that's what I'm looking at now for the New England Patriots, because unless they decide to move down and maximize that draft capital, that number four pick,
Starting point is 00:39:11 they're likely to have a decent shot at either Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter. And right now in New England, I'd be good with either one. Obviously, I love the upside of a Travis Hunter because you're looking at a legitimate two way player that can revolutionize the way that backfield right now, the defensive backfield for New England is situated. You pair him alongside Christian Gonzalez. That looks like a formidable tandem for years to come. He's also a guy that I know Josh McDaniels would love to put in that offense in select packages that would allow him to be able to utilize his skill set on offense. So you're killing two birds with one stone if you're the New England Patriots. If you bring in Travis Hunter, I'd love
Starting point is 00:39:52 to see him wearing Patriot Blue. Abdul Carter could make this team an immediate upgrade when it comes to the pass rush. They didn't have one last year. It was non-existent. They need someone that can come in and be your marquee name for years to come. So, Abdul Carter is someone that I'd look at for the Patriots as well. Those two are my top draft crushes right now, but, Peter, I got to say, Jaden Higgins is someone I'm keeping my eye on. If the Patriots do move down, that's a sizable receiver with the ability to move. I know the Patriots have had a lot of trouble, a lot of problems drafting receivers, but he fits all of those boxes. He checks all of those boxes. That could be a name for Patriots fans to watch if in fact they do decide that they're going to move out of number four. Higgins with Drake, man, it would be fun because he can win vertically and it doesn't have to be a perfect ball. Just give him a shot. Right. That'd be really fun. That Higgins, T Higgins, there's going to be two Higgins in New England this offseason. Good options across the board here from our panel here
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