Ep. 551: Home Gym Marketing Is Getting Weird
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00:18 Social media, website, everything. Massonomics! What's up, everyone? We're back for episode 551 of the Massonomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live. I said recorded weird, recorded live from western northeast South Dakota and southeastern South Dakota. My name is Tanner.
00:51 And my name is Tommy. 5.51, Tommy. We did what nobody said could be done. Yep. Yep. My fifth grade teacher said we'd never get here. And here we are. Yeah.
01:06 Read them and weep, Mrs. McRavy. I don't know what you're This is a hater. Yeah. Was that her name or are you saying she was a hater? She was a hater. Said we never do this and we did it. She said,
01:24 I don't even know what a podcast is yet. And neither do you because you're in fifth grade and it's 1999. Mm-hmm. Nobody knows what a podcast is. Is that like The Matrix? Just watch that movie with Keanu Reeves. You know. in 99.
01:42 I didn't really get it though because I'm an old fifth grade teacher. Still trying to figure it out. It's about taking pills, I guess. Yeah. 551, we got a banger of an episode this week. Several topics on the docket. Do not adjust your screens for those of you watching along live at home. That's right.
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04:03 Oh, did I? Man, you know, I just, I went to New York. It's a big state. You know, there's a lot of places you can go there. But this time I went to New York City, New York. Oh, the windy city. Yeah, for the city that never sleeps. That's the one, Sin City, I think, is what they call it.
04:20 Yeah. First time ever being in New York City. Have you ever been there before? I've never been to the city. Yeah. We're kind of more Buffalo upstate guys. You know, that's where we go when we go. That's true.
04:33 That's true. But never been to the city. It's on the bucket list for me. I probably want to go one time. It is, it was, I had like decent expectations. I would say it exceeded my expectations. I thought New York City was awesome. Like, I want to go back.
04:48 It was that good. I loved it. It was so cool. I just, there's just so many things about it. Like, I think maybe the craziest thing is much like, you know, if you think of these big American cities or these big, like, American things. Like, New York City is one of them. And like, just for comparison, like the concept of, like, Hollywood.
05:10 You know, it's like this, almost this abstract concept. It's like, oh, there's New York City. There's like you don't really talk to many people that go to those places and like a lot of stuff happens there. So much of pop culture and entertainment revolves around those places. But unless you're there, it's like, I don't know, it's just kind of this abstract thing. And to like be there, you're like, oh, this is the Rockefeller Center. This is where they film Saturday Night Live is like right up here on one of these floors. And Jimmy Kimmel gets filmed on one of these.
05:37 It's like, this is the place. You know, like this is the building. This is where Home Alone 2 was at. I actually, this is like, yep, there's where they filmed that. Multiple things like,
05:47 I mean, we had that exact conversation. Like, there's just stuff like that everywhere you go. And it's, it's like, yeah,
05:53 this is kind of the center of a lot of pop culture over the years revolves. Like, I mean, just go to Central Park. You're like, how many movies have Central Park
05:59 in some way in them, you know? Home Alone 2, for example. But, uh, Santa Claus. Santa Claus. Santa Claus.
06:06 Elf, you know, it's in all of them, man. Actually, that's what I'm thinking of. Oh, okay.
06:10 but it's just I think every Christmas movie ends at Central Park. It has to. It's the rules, isn't it? But it was so cool. And, you know, did you get yourself a New York slice? Yep,
06:22 had several slices of pizza. Had a lot of bagels. A lot of New York bagels. They're pretty damn good. It's just, and we stay, actually, we stayed like at Times Square. We were right there for three of the nights,
06:36 and we were in a different area for the last night. But, oh, it's just so cool. and I guess what's really impressive about it is when you look at the way that you can build, I think what blows my mind is you pack enough people into one spot and the ingenuity that people have to solve the problem of. How do we get this many people to live here? Because, you know, we've been, Tanner, we were recently in one of the top 10 biggest cities in America, Phoenix here recently.
07:00 Which we know. Oh, is that three or four? We were in Chicago recently too. And we were actually. And Chicago has been in three and four as of recent. Yes. And, you know, Chicago has met. much more in common with New York than it probably does with Phoenix, I would say.
07:13 But when you look at the problem of how do you solve a giant city, the way Phoenix approaches it is pretty much the exact opposite of how New York approaches it. Phoenix is like, you know what? Just add another parking lot, another strip mall. We can go into this desert forever in New York. It's like, no, we'll just build up forever. And then also when that's full, we'll build tunnels underground that have trains in them. And you'll just go everywhere.
07:38 And so it's really cool. Like it's just, it's such a trip back in time. You know, like everything's much old. It's a mix of being old and really new at the same time. Everyone was honestly, to me, surprisingly chill everywhere you go. Like, you know, I think New York gets this reputation of people being like assholes and really direct. And maybe, I mean, more than the local areas. That's how it is.
08:00 But I'm like, nah, I don't know. Everywhere you went like in the restaurant, anything, hospitality like service is awesome. People are really, really good. And I don't know. Everyone was pretty friendly for the most part where we went. And just I could go on about this forever, but just a couple of things I'll touch on really quick. Central Park.
08:16 Do you know how big Central Park is, Tanner? You're kind of an agricultural guy. Let me guess in acres. I was going to say you have a concept of acres. How many acres are we got? Well, a quarter is 160. A section is 640. And a section is like a mile by a mile.
08:38 Which is big. That's big, isn't it? And like, this is a big city. So, but I know it's really big. Um, is it 500 acres? It is 843. Okay. So it's bigger than a section.
08:57 It's bigger than a mile by a mile. Yeah, according to this, it's two and a half miles by a half mile. And it was like really long or wide or whichever. And I mean, there's like lakes in there. When you're in there, it just feels like you get in there far enough. You're just like in the woods. Like you would have no idea you're in the city. It's other than that there's a few more people around them
09:15 when you're usually in the woods. But even there, it's not like crazy busy. It's so like that was shocking to me. That was really, really cool. Food was really good everywhere. Yeah, Rockefeller Center. We went to the top of that, top of the rock where you see everything at night. And that is insane.
09:29 Like, that's mind blowing what that actually looks like when everything's lit up. It's like, damn, people can really, people can really make this, huh? Yeah. That was cool. Then we went to a Fred Armisen. comedy concert thing that he does. And between, you know, Saturday Night Live and like Portlandia,
09:49 my wife and I were both big Fred Armisen fans. So that's really funny. He basically kind of does like an hour of stand-up, but he has some instruments on the stage and basically all- Like a residency somewhere? No. He does this normally? No,
10:01 he just happened to actually have a show. Leo was just looking up things that were going on and she saw that this was there. And so she got tickets. And it's kind of funny because he sort of just does like jokes that are more focused around like, you ever notice that drummers do this? And then he'll like do it and like just a lot of jokes like that, which are like oddly specific, but also really, really funny.
10:21 And then, yeah, like at the end, he's like, I like to make things more memorable. Let's open it up to questions. And so people just in the audience ask a bunch of random questions, you know, about different bits and things that he did over the years. Yeah. So that was good. And then, dude, one night we went,
10:35 I've never been to a Broadway show. I had no concept. I didn't, this is how, this is how dumb I am. I thought. because I've never looked into this once. I thought Broadway was like a building. Like it's the Broadway building. And then the street, right?
10:50 Yeah, which makes way more sense. Yeah. Just I'd literally never even put any thought into it before. And we went to, we went to Wicked, which also had no concept of us other than, like I hadn't seen any movies other than the fact that recently we've been watching the Wizard of Oz and my kids really like the Wizard of Oz. And, you know, there's kind of the Aberdeen connection there.
11:10 And Frank Baum. Dude, I got to say. shop up in Aberdeen for a while. First of all, I can't believe that Aberdeen does not capitalize on kind of like the wicked craze more than what they do. I just feel like there's probably lost opportunity there. But dude,
11:23 it's crazy. It's crazy what they can do with a play and people's like singing and acting abilities and like the sets. And those freaking flying monkeys start going around, man. Yeah. I got like I had,
11:33 again, like low, I'm not going to say low expectations. I didn't expect to be bad, but I just didn't expect much. I got done. I'm like, damn,
11:41 that was crazy. I'd love to go see another show. Like that was really, really good. So we saw that. And then, you know, you just walk around a ton everywhere you go. Like there's just, I think like one day we had like 22,000 steps.
11:53 Another day it was like 18. Another day was like 20. So you just do a ton of walking just to see everything. One day, not too far from our hotel, I have my Masonomics hoodie on, the Massonomics gym skull, you know. And I'm in this crazy busy bagel shop. And I'm in there waiting for my order.
12:10 And I'm in line. someone taps me from behind. And I'm like, oh, God, what's going on here? And so I look and it's this, this is like lady. And she's like, I like your sweatshake. She's like, oh, you're so big and burly. She's like, I like you there, just all burly. Look at you there.
12:30 She goes, I like your sweatshirt. I'm from Aberdeen. I graduated from Aberdeen. I'm like, what? I'm like, when? She's like, well, I'm old. I'm like, well, when did you graduate? She's like, 89.
12:40 I'm like, oh, cool. And the line was like crazy, so we went by and I'm like, all right, that's maybe the closest recognition I've ever got to Massanomics slash Everdeen ever in public before. The live chat wants to know what bagel you're getting. Oh, I did everything bagel with the scallion, scallion cream cheese. Got to have that scalyon cream cheese on there. Actually, the first day, I got one of those, and I also got a sesame with garlic cream cheese. and my wife thought that the scaly and everything was significantly better.
13:11 So the second day, I went back to the same bagel shop, got that thing. And yeah, it's good. It's really, really good. Not toasted, not toasted here. I was told, looking up online, you don't toast your New York bagels. If they're fresh, you just eat them the way they are. Yeah, it was damn good. The way they used to be when we were a proper country.
13:30 Exactly. And then just really quick, just, yeah, hitting all the tourist spots. ride in the subway down to where the World Trade Center is is like insane. Like you come up, there's this place called like the like Oculus. It's like this kind of underground shopping mall. And you're like, I don't know, I'm still underground. And then all of a sudden you pop out and just the concept of being underground popping out and the city being there is nuts. Like it's just my brain like just can't hardly comprehend that.
13:58 And then yeah, seeing like the New World Trade Center and then where the old ones were is like this crazy thing. Statue of Liberty, just looked at it from the shore, farther away from the shore in person than I would have guessed. I don't know. I always just seemed a little closer in things. Ah, Lady Liberty. Exactly.
14:15 We walked about halfway across the Brooklyn Bridge. That was pretty sweet. And yeah, man, outside of that, it was mostly just kind of like popping into restaurants and bars. And I loved it, though. My wife and I both thought it was awesome, like I would gladly go back again. It was that good.
14:33 did you go to like TRL or? Well, that's right there in Times Square. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, remember TRL back in the nation? Like, yeah, I'm like, that goal, those glass windows, that's the spot. She's like, it is? I'm like, yes. I'm like, dude, growing up and like seeing TRL on TV every afternoon and they'd be up in those glass windows and everyone in this down. Just screaming and going crazy.
14:55 Like that, that was where it all went down. Yeah, big Shalom is asking the question I was going to say, would you ever, could you ever see yourself living in New York City? Well, it's the, it's the, wow, there's a couple things. I will say, our good buddy Brian, I think he's got the system down. You have a house in the city and then you also have a house upstate. In a cool spot. Like, dude, that's the, that's the freaking way to do it, man.
15:19 Oh, yeah, like that's the way. I mean, like that arrangement is, that, that arrangement's money. That would be the way to go. Oh, yeah. Because like, oh, yeah, you want to take in the culture. You just walk down the street and there's 10,000 different restaurants. But like you walk to this place, oh, it's too busy. Okay, you go next door and see what that's like.
15:36 And it's just you can do that all day long. There's just shit going on all the time everywhere. People all over the place. My wife's like, oh, yeah, I could live here. I'm like, okay, we have kids. There's no, we could not live here. It's not how this works. Surprisingly, you don't really see kids many places there.
15:52 Not a lot of young children around. But yeah, a lot of people just everywhere you go all the time. Like, it's just always busy, which is pretty cool. Yeah, I suppose part of it would be the conversation. Could you, you know, get rid of vehicles and live in an apartment and live in a, live in a situation where you just take public transportation walk and stuff? Yeah, getting rid of the vehicles, I don't even think would be that big of a deal. Like assuming you're, I get it now.
16:19 Like once I see how the subway thing works and like, you know, you plan your life around that. But man, the gym situation would suck. Like, you've got to go. Unless you have just a very minimal vultra setup, you got to go to a commercial gym. And I mean, there was tons of them around. Lots of blocks. Just walk a little bit.
16:33 There is one. But yeah, you'd spend a lot of your life walking if you live there for sure. You don't need to go to a gym when you get all that exercise. They don't have to go to the gym today. Yeah. You got your exercise in just moving up, moving stairs, walking, getting steps in. Yep. Get your cardio in all the time before noon even.
16:54 Yeah. So, and Keith wasn't there? I did not see him. You know, I was looking. But, yeah, didn't see him anywhere. Keith famously never has been to New York City. Okay, was it never or once? I thought he said once and he's never going back.
17:09 Oh, maybe that's the case. But maybe it has, maybe it was never. I can't remember. It was at the most one time. Okay. But he does live in New York, but it's very large state. Well, it is. It's a long ways away.
17:26 It's a vast state. Are you drinking anything over there this week? Just plain old water. I had this problem where I loaded up on so much. Would you pick that habit up in New York City? No, unfortunately. I had this bad habit where I was just getting so much sparkling water from Costco at one time that I just, the routine of buying it is out of my brinks. I had so much stockpiled and now I forget to buy it every time I go to the store.
17:52 Yeah. It's happened to the best of us. What flavor did you have over there? I saw something purple. It's called a purple nerple. some black raspberry just sipping that scissor that LaCroix black raspberry naturally enhanced or essenced not bad hits the spot on a Wednesday night I'll say that much I can imagine man actually tonight after supper I was pouring one of my kids a glass of chocolate milk
18:26 and I poured myself about a five-ounce glass of chocolate milk, and I put it in a glass, and then I did this. My wife, like, I was pretending it was a whiskey. And I'm like, oh, sometimes I just need to relax after a long, hard day. And I kept going on this whiskey bit. And then I'd had a sip. And I'm like, this tastes so much better than whiskey. It's not even, not even comparable.
18:50 I mean, I would make you argument that whiskey and chocolate milk are not comparable, but you are correct. Which one? All right. What about this? Which one tastes better? Well, I mean, I'm not sure that they necessarily belong in a comparison together. They're very different things. But they are two things that both you drink and have a flavor. So which one taste better?
19:10 I mean, if you just pure, if I need to drink a lot of something in a hurry, I'm going to pick chocolate milk over. I'm also not a huge chocolate milk fan either, though. So that may be fair then. So which one do you think tastes better? Well, if we're going to just straight up just like sweetness, taste, yeah, it doesn't have to be sweetness, though, because some people might not like sweet. Well, but what if you want something that has a little bit of a burden to it? It doesn't have that bird. That's why someone could like the taste of whiskey better.
19:41 Yeah, I will say, I don't like the taste of whiskey better. I'm not even a whiskey guy, but I can understand. You can understand the spot it belongs in. God, I'm just, I actually, I hate the way that sound. It almost just sounds like I'm advocating for whiskey here. I didn't really like whiskey that much, to be honest. You just don't like comparing chocolate milk to whiskey. That's maybe the bigger thing.
20:04 I don't like comparing the two, yeah. I'll die on the hill. Chocolate milk tastes way better than whiskey after a long, hard day. Oh, that just tastes better. You know, I was looking at something. I feel like you have a new book in your collection back there. I've got so many damn books and stuff. This whole situation is just getting like unmanageable.
20:31 Yes. Okay. So are you talking about the movement? Yes. I couldn't remember what it was called. Oh, yeah. Let me grab that. I'm not lying, though.
20:42 My stash of stuff here, I don't even know where to put things anymore. You know, there's a lot going on, yes. It's just getting ridiculous. but eventually I'm going to revamp some of that stuff more on that at a future date. But for now, courtesy of the perfect little sweetie himself, he said, here's how you can get some real world strength. Maybe this will build size from the perfect little sweetie. And it's the movement, how I got this body by never going to the gym in my life by Jack Garberino.
21:13 You know what the most hilarious thing about this was? In 2026, the funny thing, like when you come across some author, of some book. You can just go on Instagram right away and be like, who is this person? It's, you know, subheading how I got the body by never going to the gym in my life. I go to this guy's profile. You know what almost every video or picture is him of?
21:35 At the gym. In a gym. Well, that was part of the joke, wasn't it? Is that what? But I mean, I don't think he's writing this as a joke. I mean, that's the joke to me. No, that was the Nathan for you bit. Like, because this is the guy.
21:49 Yeah, this is the guy, yeah. This is... Oh, I... That went over my head. I forgot it. That's why this guy looks so familiar to me then. Yeah, he was the guy with Nathan hired and he's like, okay, you can't tell people... I completely forgot about that.
22:02 He's like, you can't tell people you went to the gym. Okay, we're going to have you write this book. And then he's going on all the... He gets them lined up on these talk shows and he's talking about how he helped these, like, children in the jungle and all this stuff. I completely, like, because even when I got it, I'm like, God, this guy looks so familiar. And then I'm like, I guess it's just what these guys... look like. I mean, kind of, but. Yeah. This is the Nathan for you book. I didn't know it was an actual book you could buy. I'm so glad you said that. I have not read this yet. So actually,
22:32 I should read it because now I'm very curious. I mean, I'm assuming it's just so stupid and just filler stuff. But yeah, I was, I was surprised. Maybe I knew at one point, but I was very surprised that it's an actual real book. Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. You kind of blew my mind on that one, actually. That makes so much sense to me then. Yeah. But I guess it's a real legit book. Yeah.
22:55 Now you know there's levels to this actually. Along those lines, did you see there is a Nathan for you movie coming out? Or it's out now? Is that the one with all the memes, like with the lady? Yeah, with the Elizabeth Holmes, the Theranos lady.
23:11 Yeah, Theranos, that was the blood testing thing that they found out like actually wasn't doing any of, because it was just like a tiny prick. Yeah, and it was supposed to like tell you like everything. Like basically tell your future. Yeah, and then like it was all smoking mirrors. Yeah. And that's, I think in the movie, so it's a documentary about her.
23:30 And I think it's, they just follow her. They're just at her house for the 30 days before she goes to prison. Because I think she goes to prison for like 11 years. And she made like, did she not make billions of dollars off of that or something? You know, I don't know if she made the money, but like she just definitely took it off of people. and I don't know if they rolled it into actually anything or if she kept it. But yeah, I do want to see it. Yeah.
23:56 That part looks insane, you know, that the meme comes from. That clip is wild. I almost feel like, man, is she making Nathan uncomfortable? It seems like it. Like, which that's almost, that seems like, feels like an impossible scenario. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Her expression is wild.
24:17 Yeah. that of a crazy woman. Sure seems like it, yes. Yeah, I would, so is that out? I think it is. I think it came out. On what? I think in the movie theater, I'm pretty sure.
24:27 That's in the movie theaters? Pretty sure. Oh. Wow. Yeah, yeah, you can see everything. Yeah, released on October 16th. I don't, I never understand the timeline of Nathan Fielder how he's working on these things because some of the projects seem so freaking long that I'm like, you know,
24:47 you just spent like five years on this, but then you have like another show that comes out next year. Like how does everything take like three to four years, but yet you have a new thing every year? Yeah, I don't know. Is he simultaneously working on? Well, in the case of this one, they only had 30 days with her.
25:01 So then at that point, I guess it is just like editing and the rest of it. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I would say for his thing of kind of doing sort of this real life thing, where it's not like just scripted and you get people together and like shoot a thing, it does seem more challenging that you got to like kind of wait for random stuff to happen and somehow piece it together to something coherent.
25:25 Yeah. I have, we're going to get to our title topic probably soon now, but I do have three. I didn't realize I had three cryptic things all in our. Yeah, what the hell? So there's three potential topics here. A square is always a rectangle, two plates on one side, or at best you feel mid. and do we want to get to any of those before a title topic or? Maybe one of them.
25:52 You pick. I think I might know what two of these are. Okay. I think I would maybe say I'll pick a short one. Oh, famous last words. Here we go. I'll pick a short one. Or do you have a preference here actually?
26:09 No, let it ride. Okay. Um, nope, I changed my mind. I want to talk about this one. A square is always a rectangle. Okay, this is the one that I have no clue. This is the one that I have no clue what you're getting out here. That's the most cryptic of all of them here.
26:28 So what this goes to, I don't know if you notice I've been on Instagram, I've been posting some things about real world strength. Yes, that's right. You know, hot screes. You know, real strength is performed out in the real world and not inside a gym with, you know, gym muscles, you essentially take. take off once you leave the gym and are never able to use them again, where real world strength is moving real world shit.
26:51 Yeah. One of the posts I made was me doing a lift in the gym, and I put text over it that says, does overhead print, oh, the text says, does overhead press, emphasis on the specific words here, does overhead press translate to real world strength? I got 88 comments, lots of engagement here. Below I wrote, you rarely move furniture over the top of your head, so I'm leaning towards no.
27:25 That was the caption. Just logically very sound. Yeah. So on the screen, does overhead press translate to real word strength? Caption, you rarely move furniture over the top of your head, so I'm leaning towards no. First of all, I got to say I just love the comments because every, like, there's two. two general groups, either everyone that gets the joke
27:47 and then has something funny to say. Or then all the people that don't get the joke. And the ones that don't get the joke, they want to argue at the post, but it's from both sides. Like there's equal amounts of, like, I don't even know what the post means to say, but it's funny to me how 50% of it interpret it one way
28:08 and want to argue with it. And the other 50% interpret at the exact opposite and want to argue that way. You got them right where you want them. You got them split 50-50, you know, really dividing the masses here. Dividing the masses.
28:23 But the thing that stuck out to me that I wanted to pose this to the first to you and then also the group listening, I actually think that I'm right and that people commenting are wrong. I said, does overhead press translate to real word strength? And the video is me performing a push press
28:42 and to me a square is always a rectangle. Do you know definitionally what I mean by that? Well, a square, well, a rectangle is not always a square, but a square is always a rectangle. Because by definition, a square always fits the definition, a shape that is a square always fits the definition of a rectangle,
29:08 but the inverse is not necessarily true because the sides aren't always equal on every rectangle. But a square is always a rectangle. Every square is a rectangle definitionally because it's four 90 degree angles, opposite sides are of equal length and every square that is true. Okay, okay, okay. It's just opposite. I didn't know for a rectangle if it was
29:29 opposite sides or equal length. Okay, okay. That's the, that's what a rectangle is. So every square. I wasn't sure on. Yeah, every square is that. Okay. And I left that as a comment to someone because what I was getting there's like three or four people that said literally like this is a verbatim quote yeah dummy that's a push press not an overhead press all right okay okay I didn't to me an overhead press is any variation of overhead press right yeah you're not saying you're not saying strict I did not say strict press or like military press or right correct those which uh you know military press that's almost like an oddity in itself of what even specifically mean when they say that. But that would actually is a good example to throw that in the mix.
30:17 Strict press, push press, jerks, I suppose. Yeah, even could be thrown in there, maybe less so because it's not as much of a press as it. But certainly push press and strict press are both versions of the overhead press. And their comment was, hey, dumbass, that's not an overhead press. That's a push press. And I'm like, correct, it is a push press. which is an overhead press. Which is it a version?
30:47 So it would be to me if I said something like, this is a rectangle that looked like a square and they said, hey, dumbass, that's a square. And I would say, yes, it is a square, which is also a rectangle. That's not perfect analogy. Sorry, never took geometry, man.
31:08 Yeah. Didn't get that far in school. Yeah. Yeah, but my biggest comment there is I want to know what people think. I'll make a poll on this. Is I guess how would you print, how would I pose the question? It's is a push press.
31:27 I don't want it to be a leading question. Oh, right, right. You know, like, well, I mean, it's just, I mean, the question is, is a push press and overhead press? Like, that is the question? Right. That's the question, really. Yeah.
31:37 Yeah. Is push press a version, a variation of a version of an overhead press? I think you just say, can a push press be considered an overhead press? Right. Okay, that's the question. Because like if you say a version, it's like, oh, right. Right. Because then that's leading potentially by that.
31:55 So you'd say, is a push press? Yeah. Can a push press be considered an overhead press? Right. So what would you say to that? I mean, I would say yes. Yeah, because you're not defining. Right.
32:09 You're not putting strict rules on how this overhead press has to be performed. Right. The important word otherwise would be strict. Yeah. If you qualified as a strict press, that would be a specific thing. Yeah, I'm on that page. Yeah, okay. That's my only point. So if you're listening along, let me know in the comment section.
32:36 What's the question again, Tommy? Oh, yeah, I probably said it different every time now. is a push press considered an overhead press. I think that's what I said. Right. Where I agree with what Scantz is saying along live, the movement is an overhead press. Yeah.
32:56 How it is executed either push press, strict press, push jerk, push jerk, split jerk. Yep. I would agree with that exactly. Yep. But there was like three. I spend much time in the gym, though, you might not understand that distinction.
33:10 But out of all this arguing about real world strength, in the comments, there was like three people that called me out and said, that's not an overhead press, that's a push press. So it stuck out to me that so many people said that. Am I, am I incorrect here that of the way I view the overhead press umbrella? I guess if you've never participated in Strongman, maybe like if you're only experience. It's almost even weird to know what a push press is. Well, that's what I'm saying.
33:36 I can see if you're into powerlifting though, how you would be aware of that stuff, but you wouldn't be aware of that like, No, like, as far as like strong man goes, if someone says overhead press, it's kind of like however you push it overhead is good, you know, like that's considered an overhead press. Right. Yeah, like in a competition, it doesn't matter if they do it strict or push press. Yeah, and I don't think that that's specific just a strong man, but like, you know,
33:59 it's the idea of like move this object overhead. Yeah. Yeah, there's multiple ways you can move this overhead. You can press this overhead, but like the general movement. But yeah, it's an overhead press. Yeah. Okay. A square is, in fact, always a rectangle.
34:20 I don't even know if that analogy makes any sense. But I just said that back to the guy because I felt like it was such a confusing response that he wouldn't be able to tell if I was arguing with. Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, it was like, it was basically my version of saying, W. Y, yeah.
34:34 I mean, that honestly maybe would have been the better one to try and get them just to justify their reasoning here. I was kind of hoping to see what he might say. to that response because I felt like it was so confusing and odd. Did they have really much for rebuttals ever? I think he just liked my comment and I only responded to one of the people that said that. But how about a little supporting or supporting members? I like it. Let's do it. This is a relatively new segment of the Massonomics podcast.
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36:58 He got an 80-kilogram snatch and 100-kilogram, 100-kilogram clean and jerk. 100-kilogram kilo clean and jerk? That's, what would that mean? 100-kilogram kilos. I think that's how they kind of in America. Yeah. So that clean and jerk, is that an overhead press? Hmm. Well, I think you specifically can't press.
37:24 Yeah, I think pressing is against the rules there. Yeah. Jerking is the requirement. So that gets tricky there too. Big Chris and Big Sam both did a strong man competition together. Chris won his 105 kilogram weight class. Big Sam finished with the biggest deadlift of the day. I think a 605 axle deadlift double possibly. Big Flo competed in WRP competition. He went 5 for 9. That included a 666-pound squat PR,
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41:54 Did you kick everyone on out of here? They're out of here. Okay, so we're going to get to a title topic then, I would assume. That's correct. And when disturbed screams, you know it's time for a title topic on the Massanomics podcast. Tommy, what the heck is the title topic this week? Oh, man. What are we going to name this thing?
42:17 Yeah, I'm trying to think of how we're going to condense this down to just. just a few punchy words, you know. Maybe a working title will do like, is home gym marketing getting weird? Is that a good working title? I don't know. I think that that's good. Is home gym marketing getting weird?
42:39 Yeah, I think that's good. Or it means good placeholder. Or we could do a more insidious one. We could do is home gym equipment marketing corrupted? Has the system been corrupted? Yeah, corrupted. I like corrupted. Yeah.
42:57 That sounds a little more serious, you know. Yeah, I like that. People are going to click on that. Okay, okay. Is there anything? Bear with me here. Even way more awful. Yeah.
43:06 Like how bad can you? Have a shadowy cabal of evil people corrupted your gym equipment? Yes, just keep making it worse. Yeah. Has big money. Okay. Okay. All right.
43:26 And then it's, then it's, it's, the thumbnail is Satan. Yeah. No, it'll be like, it'll be like these shadowy figures.
43:35 And then it'll be like a home gym enthusiast. There will be all around him. And then this home gym enthusiast will be laying on the ground tied. And there'll be candles around him. And there'll be like blood, like a blood sacrifice. Yeah. Right.
43:49 Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's how serious this is. Yes, that's, I mean, we're laughing. We shouldn't be. Like, this is no laughing matter. This affects a lot of, you know, a lot of people deeply. Has big money created a death cult of people out for your, you and your gym?
44:10 Yeah, it's infiltrated. It's been infiltrated. Yes. An evil satanic death cult. Yes. created a disinformation campaign around your favorite pieces of equipment. Yeah, those are,
44:25 it's some combination of that will be the working title. We got, we got a few days to figure it out before this goes on YouTube, but it'll be some combination of that. Yeah, I like that. That's way, what was the first thing you said?
44:35 That sucks now. I think it was just like, this home gym marketing getting weird. To think about it now, that was way too much of a softball. Yeah. It was not going hard enough. Nobody's going to click on that.
44:46 They'll be like, oh, weird. Yeah, we need shadowy cloaked figures. with some type of satanic ritual happening. Yeah, like that. You're like a goat's head in there for some reason too. Yeah, goats head, yeah.
45:01 It's like the Antichrist sort of thing. Well, I mean, we're talking about Jimmy equipment, so obviously that makes sense. Right. Obviously. So what's the scuttle butt? Well, is there a scuttle butt? I mean, I think I just said it.
45:19 You know? Yeah. You don't find a problem with any of those words I just said. It's pretty evil sounding to me. It does seem really dark and evil. I don't know how you do things in your house, but this community has gotten pretty dark and evil. Okay, so we've actually had this on the list for a while,
45:38 but just with everything going on, we've never been able to give this segment the due time it's needed. And I think what spurred this was a little company called Freak Athlete. They're known, known for their marketing. efforts. You know, in the past, if you spent any time on the internet, ever, you've probably got a freak athlete ad promoting their freak athlete reverse hyper or hyper. What did they call the original? Hyper Pro. Is that? I think it was a first one. Hyper Pro still. Yeah, Hyper Pro. Now it's the Hyper Pro X. The ads died down for a while. You know, we've talked about on this podcast,
46:13 how much we've got those ads in the past. It's been a topic multiple times on this podcast. actually, I believe, just how many ads you see for them. But they kind of slowed down the ads for a little bit. But now with the arrival of the Hyper ProX, the marketing machine, the content machine, the advertising machine is firing on all cylinders. You could say they're feeding the beast. And it's, I think, well, okay, where this conversation started was that the most obvious signal that this was going on was the day that the Hyper Pro X
46:54 YouTube videos all released. At the exact same time. Yeah, there's about 10 of them that all released at the same time. Like literally almost within an hour of all, or it might have been all identically the same time. Yeah, they might have just been all scheduled for like the exact same time. It was like, I don't know, like 9 o'clock in the morning or 10 o'clock in the morning on like a Thursday or something.
47:14 I mean, that marketing tactic isn't new. Like, you know, there's, you know, there's this term of embargoes where, you know, if you're on the marketing team or whatever, you know, if you're one of the chosen people to market a product, you know, tech is really popular with this. Like, here, here it is. It's under wraps as part of it. You know, the agreement is you can get your content ready, do this whole thing, but you can't publish it until this date. And like, that's not unusual. Like, that absolutely does happen in the greater YouTube. I think this one was maybe a little weird. you and I have talked about this a decent one offline, is the rest of the got a little weird is that the product was basically out and everyone had seen it already at Home GymCon. Like it had already been covered fairly extensively there. And I don't know. I guess I didn't watch.
48:01 We checked it out at Home GymCon on video. Yeah, well, and we'll talk about that in a minute too. But so it was it, as far as I know, I don't think anything really changed between that unit and the production unit. So, I mean, there was nothing really secretive about it. At least if there was secretive, it was incredibly minor. I mean, I watched like one and a half of the reviews. And I'm like, yeah, this is the unit we saw.
48:21 So that on its own gets a little weird when it's like, okay, we have this embargo, this secretive thing, but also nothing changed. So then it's like, well, okay, so then is the embargo just, I think at that point, the embargo just serves to be a marketing mechanism for them that we can release all at the same time more than anything. Like what is the purpose outside of that then? I think it's just a drive up engagement because all the content comes out at the same time. So like, that's one part of it. I think where you and I maybe, maybe our thoughts on it are a
48:54 little different. Because I think, I think some people like this thing or, you know, there's been talks. Maybe that shows the shows the, shows this market is maturing or this industry is maturing. And I think where I look at it a little differently is when I watch a video of MKBHD or whatever big tech person that has multiple millions of followers, Maybe I think about it differently because we make videos, but in my brain, I'm like, that's not a dude making YouTube videos. That is a business that has employees and they make videos in order to make money to keep this business going. Like they're so far past the point of. Like, there's no secret there.
49:32 No, like this is, this is just their job. Like they're not like doing this and also like having a nine to five and like just doing this for the love of the game on the side and do it. Like this is their job. And like they have to play the game to keep their job. and do the whole thing. And that's just how it works. And also, I mean, we're talking about videos that'll get millions of views, maybe tens of millions of views on channels that have hundreds of thousands,
49:57 if not millions of subscribers. Like, it's just in my brain such a different game completely. Like the numbers are just so far beyond anything in our space. I mean, it's significantly beyond Coupe, you know, and he's the biggest one in the space. So, like, when I look at that, that's what I think. It's like, yeah, those are businesses doing business things. playing the business game.
50:17 And where I think I get like a little, just like the illusion gets weird on me is I still in my brain, I'm like, no, outside of coop and gluck, I think they're probably the only two that like this is their job. I think everyone else that makes videos. I don't know if anyone else makes videos full time.
50:34 Like this is their job. I don't know everyone's situation good enough. But as far as I know I think, and I'm not saying that's a knock to anyone if I'm missing someone, please tell me. But I think everyone else like has jobs. You know, Yeah, Jungle Jam reviews would be that.
50:47 Oh, yeah, Jungle Jim reviews. Sorry, yes. And Jungle Jim reviews, yes. But that's even very recent for him. Right. Like that's as of like this year. Yeah. You know, so he hasn't been at that super long either.
50:58 So like, so we're just saying, like we're looking at, you know, this whole industry. And there's a couple people in this industry that, you know, like do the review thing full time. Everyone else, though, I kind of think of it sort of that they're in our spot. We're like, no. the reason they're doing a lot of this is because they have a genuine love and interest in the hobby and like, you know, a genuine passion for this stuff and it's exciting. And part of me is like, once you start like leveraging a lot of channels, especially people that like even kind of say they're in it for the love of the game and all this, but like you get turned into a cog in the marketing machine, it feels a little like, I don't know, not genuine, you know, in the whole thing. So I don't know. I think that's just where it gets kind of weird.
51:48 And then you say, well, if this is the marketing approach, well, do we just start to get this once a month? Because rep, no doubt, has, like, not everyone can do this because you have to have a certain budget and interest in product to even pull it off. And like, because a lot of the equipment companies in the space are not at a place where they have a budget like that even. Right. Or even a marketing team that's sophisticated.
52:09 I mean, we've seen the backside of a lot of things in Jim Ray are. Like a lot of people don't have a marketing team that's sophisticated enough to one even orchestrate something like this. Right. And then financially that it makes even sense for them to try and do it. Yeah. Yeah. So like there's only so many companies,
52:23 but it's like, well, if that's just the direction things go, do we just start being like, all right, here's your, once a week. November is this product.
52:33 Yep. Here, like no doubt rep has a ton in the pipeline. And you know, like if Rogue wanted to do this, no doubt they could too. Like people would be all over it. And then,
52:40 you know, there's any list of up-and-comers and people that, you know, fringe and force USA and all these companies that have some pretty sophisticated marketing and spend a lot of money on marketing, Bells of Steel too, that could do this. And so it's like, oh, does it just turn into once a month?
52:55 Here is the, here is the infomercial this month that everyone is on the same page doing the same thing. And like that's right. Which I think most people would say that would be lame if that was the case. Oh, I think people would be like, this. Like if you're a consumer of home gym content and that's what it turned
53:09 into, that would kind of suck. Because it's not. Yeah. It's not personalized. There's a certain number of big product releases in a year. And the idea that every one of them gets this marketing approach, you'd be like, kill me now. They all come out with the same day at the same time and do the same thing, you know, everyone's take on the same thing. Right. And it's presumably something with a relatively short impression window.
53:32 I mean, I don't know. This thing, you know, we saw it at home gymcon. So assuming everyone got theirs, like within the next month, you know, then people had about a month-ish with. it, which also isn't a very long time for a, I mean, it's probably long enough for what it is. It's not like it's a totally revolutionary scope on it. But it just like, you start to see the thing of like, yeah, does it just turn into these like really sponsored? It feels like just sponsored content is what it feels like at a certain point there. And again, people out there, I'm not knocking someone.
54:05 Get your money, do your thing. But I feel like there's only so many of those you can do to where it like starts to just like, makes people question things a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree. Also, it's like not even a knock on the product. Like I... No, I actually think it's a really good product.
54:23 Yeah. We actually, that's not the conversation. You know, like that's not actually the point of what we're even saying. Like, the product itself is pretty sweet. Like,
54:32 and I'm also not saying that... I also think that the team at freak athlete is very good at marketing. Like, I don't think that they're even doing like a... I'm not saying like they're doing anything shitty either. No, no, right. I'm just like speaking at this. I'm trying to take a very objective approach of this.
54:48 You can just see the extent to where like if this trend were to continue, I think it's a bad look and a bad fit for the for the home gym space. Right. Because it really does feel very bought, paid for, and sponsored. If that's what it takes for people to be interested. I don't know. See, this is. Okay.
55:07 This is where I get hung up on the stand. Okay. The more I go on, I can just like talk myself into circles on this. but yeah I think maybe sometimes I think about it how long Tanner did we make content before we got any any money from content like I mean many years maybe like five plus years before we even saw any from content and I think maybe that's what and like a lot of content I mean hundreds of podcasts of episodes like tons of YouTube videos like logs yeah and part of that was because we weren't specifically like trying to get equipment.
55:43 content. We really weren't trying to. Yeah, but some of this I see, I'm like, we're just trying to make stuff and get an audience. Yeah, we were just like doing stuff we were interested in. And like, to me, I'm like, God, that's like the love of the game right there, isn't it? And I just like, want more people to do that. And then sometimes I see people, it's like, oh, yeah, I've had a, I've been into the fitness space for six months and I already have a channel. I'm like, ah, like man, that just feels like you went straight from interest to monetization, like really, really fast. Like, right. It feels less like it's a passion or a hobby. and more like, no, this is a business.
56:14 Like, I'm doing everything I can to make this a business. And the business aligns close enough with something I'm kind of interested in. And so I think that's what kind of gets me on some of this stuff too, is it's like, ah, how many people really care about this? Or is it just the marketing machine as being driving all of it? I don't know, man. Part of it, I'm just speaking to, like, marketing and capitalism in general,
56:38 I guess, the state of YouTube and all that. It's a lot of pieces. but yeah and like uh to if we point the mirror back on ourselves we do some uh um i don't know product reviews i guess equipment reviews but we do a handful a year i guess uh yeah we because we're like we you know we try to be pretty self-reflective on a lot of this stuff again i want to make it clear i'm not knocking anyone like i get it especially like free equipment is just part of the review game like free equipment happens. Yeah.
57:12 But I was like, yeah, you know, we do a fair number of reviews. We went back and looked and were like, oh, actually this year, I think our only two actual review reviews have been at the Temple of Gaines machines, which you exchanged money for. So, like, oh, that was the extent of our equipment reviews for the year. We do have some things in the pipeline, actually. Yeah, we're going to review some stuff. Also, like, we kind of want to take our time with things.
57:38 Like we're at like I think it's funny. You know, we had that Vultra. We had Vulture first impressions because we got Vultras for free this year. So like who I don't know. I'm biased probably. Who am I to talk about stuff? But just how people think about things, which is kind of bizarre to me is remember we had that Vulture video come out.
57:54 And there were several comments like these things came out like three years ago. Why are you doing a video on this? It's like. Right. And it's like because we, that's how long it actually took a like the real answer. It took us that long to actually even decide. we are really interested in this. Yeah.
58:10 Like to, like, that's how long it, that's how long it took to sell us on the idea. And like, we had to see them in many people's gyms and talk to many people that use them and demo them many times. To be sort of the idea of it.
58:23 Well, until we were like, yeah, I wonder if we should buy these. And then we were like going to buy them and we reached out and they offered to give them to us. But that's why. I mean,
58:32 that's why we didn't do a review on it right away because we don't really care about doing reviews just for the sake of reviews. And we're not trying to just be first and quick on things. We actually have a couple of things we're going to review probably over the next four months that I don't know. I think all of them have been out for a minimum of a year or two. But it's like at the end of the day, it's like, yeah, that's kind of once we got to it and we like, no, we do like this thing. And it's because the product that's deeply interesting to us and like that's why we're going to get to it. But or we feel like we have something unique to add to the conversation or at least, yeah, yeah.
59:04 At least moderate, you know, at least somewhat we had something, we have our own spin on it or you know, we feel like we have something to add. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if what we're saying is making any sense to anyone. I'm not shitting on any of those guys who are getting their reviews. You know, like get, yeah, do your piece of equipment. And I don't even know.
59:22 Like they, I'm assuming they got a free machine out of it. It's like 700 bucks, which sure, great. It's not, it's not nothing. It's not insignificant in the scheme of things, you know? Right. I'm assuming they probably didn't get paid anything on top of that. You know, they're in return. They were released a timely video when Freak Athlete needed it most.
59:42 And that was the agreement. And I mean, that's fair. That's fair. But I guess it's just the bigger picture of looking at the trend of if that were to continue across the industry, it feels like, I don't like that look. Right. And as a consumer of content, it's not very far.
59:59 Like, I don't like that. I don't want that to be how I get consume while I'm forced to be able to consume content generally across most of the channels that I would ever watch. Yeah, where it's all right, big product X this week. Stay tuned until next month when 10 to 20 more videos come out all at the exact same time covering product Y and like rinse or Pete every month. Like I don't, I just, I don't think people would like that in general. And to be fair, there's no signs showing that like the broader industry.
01:00:30 is doing this marketing technique, but that's, I don't know, it's something to be aware of, I guess. Yeah. That being said, I think it looks like a great product. I'd actually love to have one. Actually, do you think it looks, you know. No, and when we were there, I'm like,
01:00:49 I think it's a huge improvement over the original. Just even like just a little bit of function and the way it adjusts, the simplicity, like the way that they simplify. thing is actually is probably my biggest. And it's more like a setup thing. Like I think when you're actually doing exercises, it's probably 90 to 95% the same.
01:01:08 You know, there's probably almost no adjustment there. It's just the setting up and moving between. There's a few less knobs. It's been refined a little bit, which I think are really good improvements because that, for me personally was always a turn off on the one before. There's so many knobs and dials.
01:01:20 Like, why is there 10 all different colors? Like I need an instruction manual every time you want. And now it just seemed like, if you messed with it like for 10 minutes, you'd be like, yeah, I kind of know what to do here. Yeah. And we talked to the team there at home JimCon, and they seemed really cool too. And they were great to have us, you know, make time for us to be on camera and everything.
01:01:38 But I think that's more of our critique of it. Is there anything else on that part of it, Tanner, specifically? Because there is one other kind of sub-point of this? But is there anything else on that part of it we need to mention or talk about? I don't think so. I guess the satanic ritual side of it. Right. The blood else.
01:01:58 The blood else and the blood else. and the animals being sacrificed. Yeah. Yeah, that is, you should always be very aware of that. That is an important thing to consider. Another piece, though, that I think everyone should be aware of, because I wasn't aware of this until the first time this happened to us, is that, you know, when I grew up, Tanner,
01:02:24 when you and I grew up. When we were a proper country, when we drink water from a hose and wore our road bike without helmets? Yeah, and we watched TV on cable. We watched cable to see our television. We weren't streaming things on demand and recording them. The only recorder we had was a VCR. You've popped a fresh tape in there.
01:02:44 Actually, you never propped a fresh tape. You bought some tape in there that you're willing to record over the top of it. You're recording over like a part of a recording of the Three Ninjas movie. And like you're hoping that you'd get the right part of it. Like that's how you did it. Could any VHS be recorded on or was, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's actually good question.
01:03:02 Like Titanic VHS and... Oh, you're saying like any tape. Could you record to any tape no matter what? I actually don't know. Or is there just recording tapes? I can't remember now. Because in my mind, you had blank tapes that you would record to and then you record to them again and again.
01:03:17 Right. That must be the case. You must not have been able to record like... I mean, it would be dumb because you'd be erasing your movie you paid for you. Right. You wouldn't want to do that. But like, what if you had some shitty old movie that you're like I didn't ever really like... Like, I don't really want to watch Blue Streak again or whatever.
01:03:35 It's right. I don't remember good enough now to say. I do not remember. I remember recording things on tapes. Oh, I had a friend. They recorded every single thing they could possible. They had just walls and walls of tapes. When I was a kid, we did, I mean, not to sound like I'm a thousand years old,
01:03:58 but we did just. have three channels. Like, that's what we had. And I would record the Saturday morning cartoon lineup. Yeah. As a young child and then would watch that later in the week and be like, all right,
01:04:13 sweet, I get to watch cartoons because, like, otherwise you literally could not. Yep. Yeah. You know, dude,
01:04:18 I remember, I remember my dad. It's actually funny thing about now because he would never in a million years do this. I remember him recording NASCAR on the weekend to watch later. Yeah. You know, because like NASCAR was.
01:04:29 booming in the 90s, you know, like, that's like peak NASCAR. That was peak NASCAR, really. It was. Like, that was like the world actually cared about NASCAR that I think. Raise hail. Yeah, dude. Praise Dale. Yeah, man.
01:04:42 It was, it was pretty epic back then. I remember that, but, uh, D-E-I-3, am I right? Was he more of a Gordon guy? Well, was more of a depaigneur. No, he, no, he was a senior fan. Yeah. That was his That was his preferred
01:05:02 Racer. More of a Mark Martin guy. More of a Rusty Wallace. Mark Martin number six Pennzo. I didn't just making up sponsors. Really? You remember?
01:05:16 They're not sure. Someone was a Pennzoil car. I mean, I know Dale Earnhardt's number, you know, Jeff Gordon, used DuPont 24. Mark Martin. Yeah.
01:05:27 Martin. think was number six. Can we fact check that? I think he was number six. But his sponsor, but his sponsor is not pens oil. I actually want to say his car was blue, but I don't know what that would have been. Mark Barton, was he number six and is a sponsor? Well, in this picture, he looks really old here, but he has a bass pro shops one on, but that's pretty, that seems pretty new. I mean, he's old and that, so it's pretty new. Right. Right. Here's one. He also looks kind of old. He has a blue Napa auto parts. Napa, okay.
01:06:00 Maybe. What number? I can't tell he's sitting down covering up his numbers. God, now you got me so interested in. Jimmy Johnson? Who is Jimmy Johnson's main sponsor? Wasn't he Lowe's? That's right.
01:06:18 But was Jimmy Johnson big in the 90s, though? No, he's a little, he's like a half eight era later than them, you know. Yeah. Oh, God. Back when you could have beer and cigarette advertisers and everything. talk about proper country, right? That is proper country. I mean, the Winston Cup.
01:06:34 Come on. Literally the whole thing was named after cigarettes. Isn't that just great? But, you know, that Winston Cup permeating popular culture the way it does, and actually I even have to second think when you say Winston Cup that I'm like, oh yeah, that's cigarettes. Because in my mind, that's just NASCAR. I remember being as a kid.
01:06:57 That's not cigarettes to me. That's NASCAR. It took me so long to figure out that's what that meant, is that Winston Cup was for cigarettes. Because that's how popular it was. Like, what's it called now? Oh, God. Wasn't it the next Hell Cup forever? But doesn't that show how out of favor it has becomes from the 90s?
01:07:16 Because everyone knew what the, everyone knew the phrase Winston Cup. Like, if you polled the United States, like every citizen from the age of 5 to 95 would be like, of course I know what the Winston Cup is. And now you're like, I don't even know what it is now. I think you could also have said name five NASCAR drivers and a good chunk of the American population would have easily named five. And if you think if you did that now, if you say name five now, they'd be like also naming five from the 90s, you know.
01:07:44 Name five current ones. Like, oh boy. Danica Patrick. Danica Patrick, is she still around? Dale Earnhardt's son. Yeah, he's definitely still racing. right. Jimmy Johnson, is he still winning every weekend?
01:08:04 See, it's just naming all people that were racing 20 years ago. Why do you think NASCAR got, why was it so boomed then and why is it less now? Well, you don't actually watch a YouTube video on this not too long ago. And part of it is, I think, maybe it's not lesser now. No, I think it is. I think their numbers are down.
01:08:27 I mean, they're absolutely down from the 19. but I don't know if it's been kind of like rebounding up. But I think like the style of racing is becoming just the way they do it. And because they do like these stages things now. Are you aware of this? No. It became just drove for 500 laps. No.
01:08:43 Like it became really, um, uh, there was like statistics on it or they would throw out. And see, I'm a big F1 guy. So I forget, forget what the NASCAR terms are. But, um, you could look up the statistics and there was like an era where they were throwing out like red flags, routine. They were like, races were getting uncompetitive. So they would basically like say, oh, safety issue, whatever. They'd throw it a red flag or whatever it is where they'd have to basically bunch up the back again and put them in the pit.
01:09:08 And they had like a very bad stretch of doing that. And it's like, well, that's just like the owners throwing the game. Like they don't like how it's going. So they're putting their hand on the scale. And so they did that. And I think that also ruined the sport for a lot of people. And then now they do like stage racing where like I'm, you know, I don't know, what do they do? 200 laps where it's like, all right, they do a.
01:09:28 70 lap stage, a 70 lap stage in another. And I don't know if they're taking breaks in these or what. But to me, that's not. That doesn't seem like Ascar. It's not racing. It's not racing. Rubbin. Exactly.
01:09:40 Rubbin's racing. Exactly. I know. And then, I mean, you throw in all the ads and all that shit. And it's just, you know. So I ask for it. I was coming from a guy that has not watched any NASCAR in the past 20 years. Well, it kind of feels like a lot of people have it.
01:09:56 Maybe I am representative of the. the general public here. I feels like, okay, so I never really watched NASCAR. Yeah. But I feel like at a certain point of time, it was on television all the time. Oh, yeah. Like just, I just peripherally would come across NASCAR all of the time. And I do not now.
01:10:17 Yeah, I don't know what channel it's on or anything. You know, I do see it pop up in the channel guide. Okay. Because it'll be some insane something 400, like the sponsor of the event is like, right. You know, it sounds like it's a. joke. Some of the sponsors are very funny, but yeah, I never click on.
01:10:32 The ejaculoid 400. Bristol Motor Speedway. All right, for the inaugural running, this is the 30th running of the ejaculoid 400. The Exer
01:10:50 Prancer 500. Live for Indianapolis. What was the lady that she would like dance, the exercise fitness is finest you know she was like jazz or prancing or something like that um i can't remember it's like a terrible youtube video yeah i can't i can't remember i can't the no explode 400 super pump 250 oh man the good old days yeah so i don't even know how we got started on NASCAR tapes. I don't even know where that came from. Oh, I know what I was going to say
01:11:33 about it. I was going to say, you know, in the time we grew up in the 90s, you're watching a commercial. You see Michael Jordan. And when he's in that commercial, you know what I'm thinking? Yep, that guy, he's a spokesman. He's getting paid. That's what I'm thinking. Okay. And I think most people have grown up with that mentality. If you're in an advertisement for a company, you're clearly getting paid for them. Well, I can now say directly, yes, that company is compensating you for your image, your endorsement, whatever it is, you're getting compensated. I can now say, as someone that has appeared personally in an ad for a company, and now, Tanner, you are also appearing in an ad for a company. That is not how it works anymore. People can just take anything and just run it, and you
01:12:17 can 100% be a spokesman for that company, but in no way receive any compensation. kickbacks or actually even approve of the message. People can just take it and run it with it. So that is, if you've ever seen an ad out there of maybe me talking about a certain barbell or Tanner talking about a certain all in one posterior chain developer machine, I will, I can tell you with full scouts on her confidence here, we did not receive compensation for those ads. We weren't even aware that those ads were running.
01:12:56 the way social media works is, yeah, you have a sound, but you have a clip, just run that thing. And so something to be aware of there, because I would have never thought that in a million years the other way. The only caveat is sometimes we might have an affiliate program with the company. We don't get paid for that. That ad really is isolated from that. It has nothing to do with it. We may be receiving compensation from the company. but that's if someone in an unrelated manner to that app.
01:13:27 Yeah, it's not related to that ad because that ad is on their, you know, it's from their. We're not getting anything like when somebody you does something. Yeah, they're not directing them to anything that would make money on our side. They're directing them to their product. Right. If we're making money from an affiliate program to the same company, it's because we've put in some work to do, you know, whether it's a video or
01:13:47 direct people there through Jim Radar or whatever it is. Yeah. So now when I see, you know, I used to always think when I saw an ad with Cooper Gluck on it, because there'd be a lot of them. They review a lot of products. They run a lot of ads. I was like, oh, that company's obviously paying them a lot of money. Maybe they are. Maybe we're just the odd guys out. But I can say that just because you see someone in an ad, don't assume that they're getting paid, compensated, or that they approved of that ad in any way because that's actually not how it works in this current day of marketing. Crazy stuff, huh? things that happen these days.
01:14:27 It's like we used to be a proper country. When you could wear a Viagra racing jacket around, you know? Yeah, it was Viagra was like a big NASCAR sponsor, wasn't it? Yeah, I just pulled up the jacket here. It's a pretty freaking baller, if you ask me. It's a real power move to go around with the Viagra racing jacket on. Speaking of sick-ass merchandise, We did have our drop this week.
01:14:55 If you haven't heard the news, have you been living under a rock, crawl out from said rock, and see if we got any merchandise left. Like this three-quarter-inch, not three-quarter inch, three-quarters length sleeve, Raglan.
01:15:10 Three-quarter inch sleeve t-shirt. Shortest sleeves you've ever. Shortest legally sleeves they can call it. They can sell. Barely sleeves, precisely three-quarters of an inch. Not a full inch, even. A short-off.
01:15:23 But it's not because there's three quarters of an inch of sleeve. Just this much sleeve right there. It just barely covers your armpit seam. Any less would not be legal. It's the shortest legal sleeve length. They check it when it leaves the factory. They check that sleeve length. This box has T-shirts and these sleeves are a half an inch.
01:15:51 We can't let this one. Get it out here. Three quarter of an inch. Passes muster. Send it out to the Massanomics guys. They've got a full three-quarter inch on this one. We don't want you giving them a single quarter-inch extra of fabric on this one. We got a budget.
01:16:07 We've got to tax that at a different rate. It's a different grade of product. The tariff's on full inch-long sleeves. Then it's a different classification of product when it comes into the port. Yeah. It's now considered outerware. That is the type of shit that goes on. This is considered loungeware here.
01:16:28 That's no self-respecting person going public. But that's like what the stuff happens. If you even just deal a little bit or talk with people that deal on like this importing stuff, like how the differences can be based on that. That was how it was. My camera forever. If you were a fan of like Canon and Sony and Nikon cameras and stuff from like when they first started adding the video component in like 2010 or like 10 or,
01:16:53 whatever it was, all of them, the video would cut off at like 29 minutes and 59 seconds because if your camera could continuously record for 30 minutes or more, it was a video camera and a video camera on like the international market was taxed differently than a photo camera. And so they just all like had this agreement that, yeah, we'll just do 29 minutes. And that was the cutoff forever until a few years ago when I don't know if the rules changed or if they all decided like, yeah, we'll just pay this difference. But that was the way it was always explained to me why there was always this arbitrary cutoff
01:17:26 on cameras versus video cameras. Which seems insane. Yeah. You know, it's like, I don't know, do you hear the story? There was one time this guy wanted to try and import smoke alarms
01:17:38 as different classifications, so he tried to justify that they're a musical instrument to not actually. It is. Multiple Nathan Fielder references here. Tries to convince the,
01:17:52 the import office that a smoke alarm is a musical instrument and not a safety device because it's a cheaper import fee. That's the case on our three-quarter length sleeve. You can see here that there's one full quarter missing of length. This reglantee with the Massonomics varsity script across the chest in black, it's a hothered gray body with the heathered blue three-quarter length sleeves. it's a softer, more athletic fit to this three-quarter sleeve, Raglan tea. Our first Raglan tea in over a decade. The last one being the infamous black and white 45 raglan,
01:18:35 which I still have in my... Did that have a Massonomics logo on the left chest? Yes. Left chest, the Massonomic Circle logo, the back said Massanomics across the top and 45 like a jersey number. Yeah, because we thought, well, what number do you put on this? If it's going to look like a jersey
01:18:55 and it's like, well, a plate is 45 pounds. That seems like a good number to go with. So that's what we went with. In hindsight, maybe 69 was the movie. Yeah. Probably would have sold more that way. Yeah. There's always 10 years from now
01:19:11 when we do our next regular. We bring it back. In 2036. So if this is still available, check it out. We also brought back out of the vault the Benchon 315 tea. This time, for the first time ever it is on a comfort colors blank. So that's the black tea. That's right.
01:19:32 Benchon 315 with the giant massanomic skull completely covering the back. It's like the biggest imprint we ever do on a shirt, I think, isn't it? Yep. The back is just covered in printing. Any bigger and they'd have to classify it as an art piece because it's so much ink. and it would cost more. So that's also why it's that size. Then we have a crew neck sweatshirt.
01:19:57 It is, so no hood on that because it's crew neck. And it is our silly goose barbell club logo. And that crew neck is like a green. Kind of like a heather green. Yeah. Heather green. It's really cool. Yeah.
01:20:13 I actually really like that crew neck sweatshirt. That's pretty sweet with the classic silly goose barbell club. And then the last item in this drop is our bison patch hat. So this is on the same hat blank that we did the last year, we did a goose patch hat. So this is kind of a similar style to that. It's a Gramps hat. It's a Richardson hat blank.
01:20:41 And then it has this sewn on patch of obviously a bison. Mm-hmm. Says SODAQ established 2014, Massonomics. 2014, my God. Just... Been around forever. Just babies then.
01:20:59 Yeah. And what color is this? I don't know. It's like a mustard. Yeah. I can't remember what the official color is. I think it's Pueblo Gold. Actually, yeah.
01:21:08 Yeah. It's kind of a Pueblo gold. That's the official name for it. We'll change this to Pueblo Gold on the website. We're claiming it. And then it's got black piping. around the brim and also the border of the bison patch. That one looks really good.
01:21:22 Also known as a buffalo. Yeah, that one is one, especially in person, you can really admire the details because they look really good. It's a sweet hat. It's a freaking sweet hat. Yeah. Overall, this drop is just pretty freaking, this drop really packs. You put that hat on.
01:21:39 Put that hat on for a second. Or just set it on top of your head because you have headphones. You're an Aberdeen Central Golden Eagle over there. Oh. Perfect. I actually wore this to soccer or basketball or both this week because I did think sometimes I have, you know, I wear maroon masonomic stuff to college games sometimes. And now I have another blue piece to wear to our local. I think I might have worn it to soccer and basketball this week even. Double up. Oh, yeah, big sports update. Our family is one of the proud members is the, Aberdeen, or no, it's the Hub City Soccer Clubs, U9, U10, Girls, Fall Tournament Champions.
01:22:26 Oh, hot damn. Yeah. We on the semifinals game, it went to an 11-person-deep shootout at the end of a tie, one-one tie. It took 11 rounds of shootout to determine a winner. It was freaking in. Tense. Yes, and all the other games had finished. And a shootout is, even of nine-year-old girls,
01:22:56 if there's a shootout going on, you're like, okay, I want to watch that. And I was like, I've never seen this many people here watching a single game because everyone had come over and it was like turning dark because it was taking so long. And when we did win in the 11th round of the shootout, I was like, I've never been so excited about soccer before. And like every dad there was saying the same, you know, it was like, that was intense. All right. Get soccer made simple on the phone.
01:23:24 We got my content to make. I get it now. It was never simple enough before, but now I get it. Now it's been made simple. I have, because this is the first year of soccer, at least for us in the club soccer league, that they keep score. There's tournaments. They call off sides.
01:23:44 And there's, I don't know. this maybe isn't the right term, but like it's real. Yeah. Like it's, they're actually like in the sport. Right. Right. And where I'm like,
01:23:54 and the coaches are also really good. Like my daughter's coach. I'm like, my God. The amount of thing, like the difference that they, their literal play from like the first to the end. I'm like,
01:24:05 I'm just watching like an actual soccer game here. And like the physicality of nine year old girls. I'm like, I don't even know how you're getting them all to do that. Yeah. Like they're like push it. You know, it's like.
01:24:16 All of them. I'm just very impressed by it where I'm like, oh. And I don't know where I was going, but just that it was the most interested I've been in soccer. And I'm like, it's just like the highly competitive nature of like a tournament is very interesting too. Yeah.
01:24:34 But also just very impressed that like nine year old girls, how physical it comes down to when it's actually a, it is the classic thing when there's points on the line. Oh, God, yeah. like arbitrary a metal getting to say your first whatever it is you know even when you're nine years old you get it it's just like built into everyone's brain that's like nope I want to win yeah that competitiveine part that's hardwired India just comes out it is hardwired I think or is it just like or if it's not that's when you find out like yep yeah there might there's probably no hope for you then
01:25:08 right right right because you do literally see it where it's like oh no this isn't like Even when you're eight years old, it's all of a sudden this is not saying it's the end of the world. I don't want to over. But there's a level of like you're looking at the clock and the score. Yeah. Before it's all just like because we're at the stage where it's all just sort of pretend. Like there's no goal. Everyone go nuts.
01:25:32 Go do what you want. Right. And like at the end of the game, you know, like yeah, I scored twice. And like people know that stuff. But like nobody. I don't there again, I'm not saying it's something. some huge big deal when you are nine years old. But I'm like, nobody really cares then at the end of this when somebody wins.
01:25:49 Like, everyone's cheering because they know who the winner was. The time's up. All right. We better go. Come on. And like, it's funny. You're seeing, like, actual fouls getting committed and stuff. And, like, you know, spectators yelling at the rest.
01:26:08 Like, it's kind of part of the gate. Spectators are making threats to the wrath. Just like it's. supposed to be in a nice competitive nine-year-old girl soccer game. Everyone's just tailgating really hard, getting really drunk before the games. Getting wasted. Hell yeah. Let's go, Suzy.
01:26:28 Kick their asses. So I guess my point is that I'm going to be really ready for the next year World Cup coverage. Oh, good. Okay. Four more years. Four more years to really get this dialed. and so it's probably how much we'll need.
01:26:46 I imagine by then that particular child of mine will be on to a not playing that sport and you can do it's some different. The spark would have died by then. Yeah. In that case, scratch everything we just said. Yeah. This is, I don't really have a strong point to make on this, but there's this thing. I know we've talked about it offline and I become just more aware of it all the time as I have more
01:27:13 kids that come through the cycles. One now being a freshman in high school and 15 years old that I've seen most of the cycle, but the pressure for kids playing athletics and like to the parents of if they're going to be involved in athletics of how early they have to start and be so dedicated to it for so long. It's insane. The whole system is whacked out that it's like that. It is. It's like, oh, it's like, oh, you're nine.
01:27:38 You haven't played yet. You're way behind. I know. And it's like, oh, that's a problem. I'm like, that's not good. Like, that's not good. Do you remember, like, when you're in eighth grade, how some of your buddies are five feet tall and some of them are six, four?
01:27:53 Yeah. Like some of them have turned into a man. Yeah. Some of them, like, have beards. And then some of the other ones. Eighth grade is the biggest, where it's wildest. When I watched my son go through, in seventh grade, almost everyone was still a little boy.
01:28:06 When eighth grade hits, some of the dudes are men then. Yeah. Like, I had buddies by the time was, I mean, didn't you say you weighed almost 200 pounds in eighth grade. I think I weighed 200 pounds in sixth grade. Yeah. And like you weren't like totally fat either. No, I was like over six foot tall and I mean, I have lots of friends in eighth grade that weighed in the low hundreds. You know, like right. It's like how long are you going to be in that? Because you don't get to control that one. You know, some of you will be a little more above that when you're in your like, freshman sophomore year. But like your window could possibly pass you by depending on what sport we're talking here. And yeah, um, that's where, yeah, man, there is an element of luck to this and element of nature
01:28:48 and how this whole thing works too. Yeah, yeah. But I don't really like that vibe of where it's like, oh, no, you're behind because you didn't like, because you didn't force your kid to play a sport that they were like lukewarm about when they were eight. I don't like that either. The other thing I don't like is with sports, all sports too. There's two levels of this.
01:29:07 There's the skill aspect, which, I mean, if you are passionate about the sport and you put the timing. You can absolutely develop the skill. But there's also the competitor aspect. And like you see it like with, I mean, if you've played sports, especially in high school, like you'll see you'll have buddies that are like, they're kind of like practice studs. Then you have guys that are like game day studs. And there's like a difference between people that know how to turn it on on game day and the ones that don't. And like that's kind of something that's, yeah, if you have a really good coach, you can teach that a little bit too. But that's also something of just like knowing how to be a competitor. And some, I mean,
01:29:40 there's just so many levels to it. But yeah, I hate that. I see, and like, it is crazy, just the, the level of specialization that people get into very early. That's really wild, too. And I think it feels like most people that know what they're talking about say that that's not a good thing. I don't see anyone that actually knows what they're talking. The only people I see like pushing that are like the coaches and then the people that offer that training, you know. But like, everyone that I know. The idea is best, if you're interested, is play as many different things as you can, you
01:30:12 you want to. Like you should be doing a bunch of different stuff year round. Like ideally, if you're into it. Yeah. Not playing basketball 12 months of the year and having like organized basketball practice 12 months of the year. Or, or pick your sport. You know, whatever that is. Right. Yeah, I'm just saying one, you know, like, basketball is an easy example because yeah, like, because you can actually play it year round with. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it. And as the parent, it's just like, but it is tricky. You can get, you can get, uh, you get caught up in it because it's like, oh, yeah,
01:30:45 we have to or else we are behind. I know, you're all behind. It's like, well, everyone's doing it. What? This is stupid.
01:30:52 I'm like one, that, you know, like, when someone's six, seven, eight, nine,
01:30:59 10 years old, they can go from being the shortest kid on a team to the tallest kid by the time they're 12. And that can even, and that can even, so they can go from being the tallest kid to just an average over the course of a couple years,
01:31:11 too. Like, yeah, I had some, Not the height is the only thing, but I'm just using that. But in sports, a lot of sports being tall is more, I mean, I had buddies that were very, very tall. And I feel like they hit their peak in eighth grade. And then I have some friends that, like, I think they still grew into their freshman year of college even, you know.
01:31:26 Right. That's, yeah, that's crazy. Okay. Are we going to do either a radar report or a certified training facility the week this week? You know, we should probably do both, actually. Okay. Right? Okay, remind me, last week, did we mention our support year category or not?
01:31:50 I don't think so. Really? Do we not? I don't think we did. For real? No, because we recorded on Tuesday last week. And it wasn't live yet or anything. And we didn't actually know exactly when it was going to be live, I don't think.
01:32:03 And we didn't even give it a heads up even? Not that I know of, no. Are you sure? No, I think we were talking about deals, actually. Oh. Oh, yeah, because we were kind of a week or two behind on that one, I think, weren't we? Yeah. Okay, well, hit the radar report button.
01:32:19 Don't mind if I ripped it dear. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? Radar love. There it is. All right, Rader Report this week. Big one. We have now added possibly our most requested feature since the launch of Jim Radar. And that is the support gear category is now live and kick in on the website.
01:32:47 And as of right now, the time of record. recording, we have 503 pieces of support gear on here. And you say support gear, what does that consist of? We got straps, wraps, sleeves, belts, bench shirts, suits and briefs. So we got six categories. And there's even a few things in that they don't fit on any category, but about 95 plus percent of all the equipment fits in all that. One of those shirts called grip shirts and a few things like that that don't fit into
01:33:14 the category. But yeah. And so people, you know, we just put out an email. Was it yesterday really promoting this? Because I think we had mentioned in the Discord maybe. But, you know, we'd kind of been chipping away at this for the last couple of weeks. It's just a lot of it's been a while since we've had to add like 500 plus products. Right.
01:33:32 But getting all those in there. And people are claiming a lot of gear. Do we want to maybe just really quick run through what are the top 10 most popular support gear items right now? Yeah, there's probably going to be some big changes to this. There are like this has changed a lot even over the other. the past two days. So from the time you hear this to now, it will be different. But really quickly, if I go top 10 support gear, number 10, we got Stoic knee sleeves. Number nine, we got the Pioneer adjustable lever, the lever itself. Number eight, we got the SBD knee sleeves. Number seven,
01:34:03 Cerberus Elite Figure 8 straps. Number six, the yellow slingshot. Number five, the Pioneer cut weightlifting belt. Number four, Versa grips, the pro grip. Number three, Three, the Pioneer Fit lever belt. Number two, the blue slingshot. Number one, the red slingshot. Why are slingshot so high? Because we did allow those at the start of Jim Radar. They got several months head start.
01:34:30 Yeah, they got like a seven-month head start. But there's a good chance by the time you're listening to this already, I wouldn't be surprised if that Pioneer lever weight belt might be number one because that one has been moving up pretty fast. Yeah. Yeah. This was our most, the most equipment we ever had to turn down was the support gear stuff that fits in there.
01:34:51 What is not being included? Shoes. That's come up. We're not going to include shoes because I feel like that's an endless rabbit hole that we have no way to put. We can't draw hard lines on it. What we kind of said, a rough rule of thumb here was stuff that you wear for lifting that actually supports your lifting. It's not just aesthetic. I think that's kind of true for all of it, right?
01:35:21 Yeah, and we're not saying that shoes don't support. No, no, no, no, right. But we just, at a certain point, it's like, man, like, yeah, you could. It's tough for us to decide which shoes count and which don't. Right, because you could say, well, squat shoes. Okay, that's pretty good. But then you say, well, flats. I wear Chuck Norrisers.
01:35:38 I wear Jordans. I wear vans. I wear barefoot shoes. And those are all legit options. But we don't want to have the complete catalog of every. pair of Chuck Taylor's vans, Jordans, everything on here. Like it just starts to get to be too much.
01:35:52 Chechnosis. Chegnosis, yeah. Rebot kamikazes. I saw a dude in New York wearing kamikazes on and, nice. I'm like, Lee, look at that. And she's like, what? I'm like, look at the green ones on.
01:36:03 The white and green ones. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my God. Tanner's like the only person I've ever seen him have those ever. And that guy's just sitting there, chilling with those eyes. Just wearing kamikazes.
01:36:13 Yeah. I wanted to take a picture, but it just in the middle. It was right out. the street. There's just no way to do it, not obviously. So that seemed like a pretty cool guy. Yeah. Never knew when a pickup game might spring up on them and you need to be ready. Gotta have those kamikazes ready to go. Yeah, so shoes weren't included, you know, but that that was generally the thought process is stuff that actually supports your lifting.
01:36:39 But for equipped lifters out there, which is probably a fairly small listenership, we did make the call to include all of that and we got a fairly good start to a comprehensive catalog of products there that you can choose from. If you're any if you're any quip lifter going through here, I mean, go through our suits and brief section, you got Inzer, metal. What else do we have? F8 customs. More Inzer.
01:37:08 Titan support systems. What else is in here, Tanner? Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of, it's a lot of Inzer Titan and metal. I mean, honestly. Cerberus has some stuff. I told you, I put in the, F8. The Inzer products here, went to their website.
01:37:27 And once I got done on their website, I felt like I had left, like a, like, specifically looking at all the photos of bench shirts and squat suits. I felt like I had left like a 90s version of the internet once I got out of there. It was like being in a time capsule because a lot of these pictures of this stuff, are old and the footage you've seen of people wearing it is old. And it just, it's like a thing of the past, man. Yeah.
01:37:53 Yeah, it is. But if you need to know what the most popular bench shirt is, if you're going to get into equip lifting, we can start to have that data now. Yeah, and it starts to become, like on sleeves.
01:38:06 You go to the sleeves category. I don't know. This probably hasn't really existed anywhere before we actually get to see what do people own and what reviews and what ratings. are people leaving them and what are they doing it across a broad variety of brands and
01:38:23 versions. Yeah. So you can actually start to compare that stuff. And there's SBD, Stoic, Slingshot, Jim Reapers, Hook grip, Serberus, A7, Elite FTS, Rogue, Reband, Evolution Athletics. I mean, there's a ton in here. And if we're missing anything that you have, you can request at it
01:38:41 and we'll get it added on the site. So yeah, there's a lot in here though. So get those at. And the other interesting pieces, we didn't want, you know, because some people have like five pairs of wrist wraps, five pairs of sleeves, several belts they've acquired over the years. You know, some people do have a lot of this stuff. And we didn't want to go to your gym page and have your gym equipment. Oh. Yeah. You know, if you have maybe 70 pieces of equipment in your gym, we didn't want your equipment list to just be like totally intermingled with wraps and straps and belts and all, because it's kind of not the same thing when you're looking for equipment. So what we did is on your gym page. You know, you're just. You know, you're just. And you're not. So what we did is on your gym page. when you go to that. I'm going to pull up mine just like... Yeah, I really like this the way that this turned out. So now when you scroll down, you know, when you get to the equipment section,
01:39:24 it does say your total equipment number, but underneath that equipment number, there's a second heading that just says equipment, and that is your gym equipment equipment. And then underneath that whole listing, there's another heading that says support gear, and it gives you your total number of support gear pieces you own, and then your support gear items are listed in there.
01:39:45 So, like, I can see my knee sleeves, my lifting straps, my wrist straps, and they're separate. So that way it's not getting mixed in. So you don't have, you know, an Ohio power bar and then a pair of knee sleeves and then a vultra and then a pair of wrist straps. Like, we're trying to keep kind of these wearable type items separate from the gym equipment itself. Which I like. I think that that's good. The one other radar report item I would mention is even since last week, our deals page,
01:40:14 which is a fairly new feature. We've added several more companies that we have specific discounts codes with. Kind of Jim Radar exclusive discounts where we're up to, you know, 44 different companies now that there's discounts. So if you're almost, if you're buying anything, check this out. You know, someone's recently added, I know just because out of remembering doing them, Temple of Gaines, weighted out. Here's a big one, body solid, 20% off their website. Yeah. That's a big one.
01:40:46 Yes, 20% off. Husker PowerLot Collar, supporting member of Big Tanner. We now have a discount code for Husker PowerLock collars that we didn't have before. That's new. So make sure to go check those up. Actually, completely side tangent. Husker PowerLock Collars are now the, oh, let's see. If I go to Miscellaneous and then Collars, they are now up to the sixth most own collar on
01:41:15 Jim Radar. Wow. They've really climbed the rankings. Yeah, they've really climbed their rankings. So a lot of people are purchasing those. So you could now save, I think, 10% if you buy them at the gym radar discount code. And you should. Okay. I've been using, I've been using an abuse at my Husker Powerlocks. Oh, yeah. Do you use them quite a bit? I use them every time. No. Yeah. The only color I've used for since I got them. Me too, actually. They're like two I kind of use them all the time on like squat and deadlift. I always use those. Yeah.
01:41:50 Do you bench with collars? No, do not bench with colors. But correct. You pass the test. Squatting. Obviously got to have collars. Deadlifting. Always have collars on like the like the Husker Power Locks.
01:42:02 They don't move at all. It's great. And then the other one is I've been doing overhead press. Maybe you've heard of this movement, Tanner. But I would use you. Oh, you're actually doing a push press. Oh, that's right. I was missing it.
01:42:14 Yep. Push press. No, I keep my knees very stiff. I'm not a cheater like some other people. But I've been using my fringe sport axle, and because that's a specialty bar, you can't use just any colors on it, but you can use your Husker Power Locks.
01:42:30 So I always use it from my overhead press, too. Yeah. And actually, I was using my Elite FTS SS Yoke Bar. Husker Powerlocks fit on that one as well. So another good use for them. And you can save, Speaking of discount codes, Mass 10 on the lead FTSSS Yoke Bar. Ah, good point, yes.
01:42:49 Okay, should we do a certified training facility of the week? Yeah, we should. While you're doing that, I'll mention the Strength Co. The Strength Co, it sounds like the 250 plates, the American Flag Plates. Grant's been sharing images of those that he's got some of the first pairs that have been completed. and they look friggin' sweet. So I think you can still order them. I guess it's technically considered a pre-order up to this point in time.
01:43:21 But they're going to be, I think, shipping Veterans Day, which we know is November 11th. So we're only a couple weeks out from that. I don't know what supplies will be like after pre-order. So I guess if you're potentially want to get one now would be the time, if you want to get a pair or a set or more than one set for that matter. before it's too late. Once they're made,
01:43:45 I don't know that there's going to be any more made. So if you don't buy them early enough, you might never get a chance to. Besides that, though, like if you did miss out on there, that just their regular normal plates are my favorite plates in the gym. They always have been.
01:44:01 And the e-coating, we talk about the black e-coat, smooth, easy-to-grip, but e-coat lasts forever. Like that just as shockingly durable, almost, I would say. We talk about Massanomics gym. Things get accelerated.
01:44:15 You know, in accounting terms, sometimes you can take accelerated depreciation. That's not a lot of that depreciation. Real accelerated depreciation. What Massanomics gym does do equipment is accelerated depreciation of value because it actually destroys stuff compared to what people do with it in a home gym.
01:44:37 One of the very few exceptions to that rule because barbells are not an exception to absolutely not an exception to that rule barbells look trashed that come out of massonomics gym compared to what people's home gyms do to them the power racks look trashed compared to what you are the power racks look trashed compared to what you last one's in there I'm like wow Tanner we go to a lot of gyms no one's finish on their rack looks as bad as the finish on your rack. You're like how is it so smashed in this area? Yeah how was all of this red rack just chipped everywhere just all everywhere and I you know those are brand new.
01:45:11 The one exception, I don't know, I have to think of them to see what else is an exception. The one exception to that rule is the Stranco plates that you will be like, how do these not look worn? Like, why do these still look brand new? It's an anomaly. Yeah, bench pads take a beating too. Bench pads get worn, absolutely worn out, really fast. Yeah.
01:45:34 Really, really fast because they're getting used like constantly. It's surprising how fast they get slick actually when they're in a high traffic. thing. Really fast. Like it can be the best pads ever new and really quickly it's like no this has no grip to it. I just wonder if you just get enough guys that are like always benching
01:45:52 like three and four hundred all the time that are just like smashed it all the time. Yeah like you get big guys and then they're also benching that much if it's just like they're greasy to begin with. Right. And then like it's just followed up by like five more guys doing the same thing like a lot of home gym scenarios never see that once and like these benches could be seen. it every day multiple times a day.
01:46:12 Right. Yeah, it's definitely a thing. It is. But the Strenco plates, it doesn't do it. So I can say in a home gym, you can have these for the rest of your lifetime. Forever. And they're still going to look brand new. The Strength.co.
01:46:30 Was that enough time for you to pick out a certified training facility? Yeah, it was actually. I'm pretty sure I've seen this one before. but I kind of forgot about it. Is it in a grain bin? No, no, not in a grain bin. Then I'm not interested. We are looking at B-Dash Rock Solid Personal Training's Gym.
01:46:53 All right. B-Rock Solid Personal Training's Gym. Well, they are officially marked as certified training facility of the week. Oh, hell yeah. Just saw it happen. All right. This is in, what's this, Leighton, Pennsylvania? Never heard of it.
01:47:12 This is a gym. I'm sure it's lovely. But this gym, they've been on gym radar since February 23rd. So early, early adopter. Wow. That's like first day stuff, basically. What was the date? February 23rd.
01:47:29 Oh, wow. Did we know who this person is? Let me look. I'm just commenting on their gym right now. I don't have any socials linked. Okay. just checking. Let's see here.
01:47:47 I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if we do. I don't know who this is. They only have six pieces of equipment listed. They're basically all hammer strength and they have one tough stuff item listed. But this is a 1,500 square foot gym. It was established in 96.
01:48:04 So they've been at this personal home gym. 1996? Yeah. Is this one of the oldest gym? gyms on gym radar? It's got to be. It says they started it in 96. It has since been updated a lot.
01:48:17 Some would say it's gotten out of hand. I was a former competitive bodybuilder. My wife trains and I have a 23-year-old son who played college baseball. So do you think the gym was in this low, very location since 1996? I don't think this isn't a home gym, right? I don't know. It says private.
01:48:35 It's not saying, so they must have like this must be their own little private training facility. But let's look at these pictures. here because these pictures, the sheer amount of equipment in this thing is really impressive. So there's no way we're going to get through all of this. But what's, okay, just looking at the first photo here, they have the West Side Scout Reverse Hyper folded up next to the leg press. I'm not sure what leg press that is, but it's green.
01:49:00 Oh, Tommy, it's got the New York Yankees logo on. You probably like that. Big New York guy. Actually, we were buying, we went and do a hat star, but I've had to grab a hat. She's like, oh, you should get this Yankees hat. you know we're in New York. I'm like, can't wear a Yankees hat.
01:49:12 Not a Yankees fan. Can't do it. So I had to put my foot down. What about the Mets? No, not a Mets fan. Actually, I wasn't against.
01:49:20 I wanted to buy a Nix hat, but she didn't like the Nix hat that I picked out. I would have been most interested in the Nix hat. Yeah. You know, I can be a Knicks fan wagon. Yeah, they don't suck.
01:49:31 So I'd rather be a fan of them now when they're pretty good. But what's this red, see this like incline chest press kind of thing? I think that's a hammer strength machine right there. Yeah. It certainly looks like one. Yeah, that's a hammer strength unit. Okay.
01:49:47 There's so many things in this photo, but we'll touch on more because there's, oh, actually, what's this cable crossover we're looking at here? Yeah, I don't know. Okay. We'll probably see more in the next photo. What else do we got here? Body Masters. Power systems.
01:50:02 Squat. Power squat or almost like a pendulum squat kind of thing. Is that what it is, or is it a standing, uh, calf raise. Well, it probably also does that. I thought it was like that squat. Yeah, you're probably right. You know what's caught my attention here?
01:50:20 See this DVD rack? Oh, hello. Look at that sound system above it too. Yeah, it kind of runs the Massonomics Gym a little bit. It does. They also got the Massonomics Gym, that clock that everyone has on the wall too. Uh-huh. And they also have that red Lasinomics sticker.
01:50:37 Look at those DVDs. I know. I wish I could get it. wish they were at a could enhance a little bit more enhance enhance massonomics seems a little DVD shelf like that yeah really put them on display all right what else do we got yeah that's a legend fitness leg press okay oh yeah yeah yeah I see now yep the green yeah legend fitness man do you think it was green like that or do you think they paint or do you think someone painted it at some point it might be painted I don't know I like uh in the back wall up there they have those photos of
01:51:11 bodybuilders. Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. They've got iron grip plates around, iron grip 45s. Got a big ass pro-style dumbbell set. Yeah, what do these go up to? Those got to be some big hosses there at the end.
01:51:28 Got to be over 100, right? Yeah. Roughly, that's like 120 or 130. Those are 10-pound plates on each side. It's hard to tell them in here there. Maybe that's even 150s, but definitely over 100. What's the, I wonder what this lap pulldown that they have here is. See that thing?
01:51:46 Got a big stack on it. It's not the Bodymaster's 212. No, you are right about that. A lot of trophies too, actually. We're skipping over the trophy case here. There's a lot of trophies on display and more bodybuilding photos behind that. What else? Oh, is this a Smith machine here?
01:52:14 Wait, is this like one of those 3D Smith machines? You see this thing? Oh, that might be what that is. Yeah, it does. Because it goes up and down, you can see that it's on like a guide rod for the front to back. That's pretty cool. I only like 4D Smith machines. I want all the dimensions.
01:52:32 Three and enough D. I need more dimensions. This looks like another hammer strength piece of some kind. I think so. I think it is. All right. What's this red? What's this other hammer?
01:52:45 Oh, it's just like a. That's a lying chest press, I think, right? Yeah. Or they just call it like a bench machine of some kind. Yeah. They still call it chest press. Yellow and red. That's an interesting color combo for both of those.
01:52:57 It's like Kansas City Chief's stuff going on there. Oh, we've got the Bodymaster's T-bar Row. Okay, that's funny because in the video this week that I just got done editing at B.J. Davies, he had a Mega Mass one and he says, yeah, people love this because it's a, it's a replica of the Bodymaster's. And it looks actually, you do it, you do a little demo and it looks exactly like this one. Okay. Wow. Okay.
01:53:22 That's cool. Body Masters. Good stuff. What else do we got in there? He's got those on it, Captain America plates. Yeah. Those are pretty desirable. Something else from Legend Fitness there.
01:53:34 I can't quite see it. I'm wondering just based on the top of that machine, if it's like a peck deck rear dealt thing. Oh, yeah. Yep. You're right. Now that I zoom in, I'm pretty sure that. That's got to be it. Mm-hmm.
01:53:48 And then what do we got? A multi-flight? GMWD multi-flight there. Else, what else? We've got some belts hanging on the wall, some Arnold photos. A very Captain America hammer strength-type machine again there. Yeah, he's got a stair climber.
01:54:08 Yep. Some... Cardio corner. Oh, he's got the SquatMax MD. Oh, yeah. That is tucked away back there, isn't it? wait I'm looking at he's got a lot of just different leg machines in here oh he's got the seated dip machine that's pretty nice oh I do like seated dip machines oh also in BJ's gym he has that seated arsenal dip machine yeah remember doing that thing yeah I do it's pretty cool when I watch back the video on how you change the back angle and it kind of changed it from a tricep extension to more of a dip yeah that's good all right got some treadmills uh yeah the squat max MD. I don't know if that's a line leg curl or something there. Yeah, that's it, man.
01:54:59 Actually, I shouldn't say that's it. There's way more there that we didn't cover, but that's the tip of the iceberg. That's a lot of good stuff, though. If you're interested, you should go check it out on Jim Radar. What I'm really wondering is, do you think you could get strong in B-Rock solid personal trainings gym? Oh, hell yeah. You guys could have talked to Yankees just a week ago if you would have popped Oh, what could have been? I just missed him. Yeah. All right, good stuff from certified training facility of the week.
01:55:31 That does remind me what you mentioned, the most recent Assonomics YouTube video that has come out is B.J. Davies garage gym tour, probably the darkest gym tour we've ever done. It was at night and very much mood lighting in there. Yeah, it was. And kind of a ridiculous collection of commercial gym equipment. It's crazy. So much for a home gym.
01:55:57 Most commercial stuff we've ever seen in a home gym. Yeah. Very cool. It was a fun one. I'm excited to watch that one myself even, actually. Big BJ, another, everyone from Phoenix that we toured was either a law enforcement officer or a firefighter, I think. A few teachers we met along the way, too. Okay.
01:56:18 They were all employed by the government at some level. Yes. Okay. What else this week? Does that draw us near an end? Watch the video. Buy from the drop. Go on Jim Radar.
01:56:35 Become a supporting member. Record a NASCAR race to your VHS player. Tell me if you can record VHS over any VHS or it's just special recording VHSs. Also, just straight up tapes. I think on tape, audio tapes, can any of those? I have the same question. Like a cassette tape you're saying? Yeah, a cassette tape.
01:57:02 Sorry, I couldn't even think of the word. I don't know. Because I used to do that too. But did those? Is that just certain ones though? I see, I can't remember. I cannot remember. Same exact question.
01:57:12 Yep. Because there's no other way we could find this out. So someone else will tell us. Did you ever put a pencil and a cassette tape spiny thing and spin it? Wind it back up. Yeah. Yeah. Of course I did.
01:57:21 it's one of the highlights of my growing up I mean what else did we do for fun mostly just putting a pen there was a nothing else to do it wasn't a mechanical pencil it was a wooden sharpened pencil yeah actually not actually sharpened because those pencils are never sharp well because we didn't have a good pencil sharpener either growing up so everything was always kind of dull and crappy you know
01:57:46 yeah you could just made do we just made do just and look we all turned out just fine. Yeah. We turned out just, just fine. We didn't have number seven mechanical lead pencils. What do you think about number five mechanical lead pencils? You know, I remember having number five for a while.
01:58:06 It's pretty fine tip, though, isn't it? That kind of seems ghetto to me. It's the really thin one, right? I think so, right? Yeah. It's just so faint is the thing. It's so light. Number five mechanical pencil always felt real ghetto.
01:58:20 I mean, seven is. Point seven, right? That's what everyone does, isn't it? Yeah. Is that the standard? Yeah, I think so. 0.7 mm. Yeah.
01:58:29 Yep. More of a 0.7 guy. Big 0.7 guys over here. This podcast is big, big. 0.7 mechanical pencil lead. Uh-huh. He always felt rich.
01:58:42 Rich in lead if you had, you know that the lead replacement with like the blue top. A little clear glass thing. Yeah. Clear glass thing with like a blue top or whatever. picturing blue. But if you had a lot of lead in there, you're like,
01:58:54 I'm set for a long time here. I'm going to break so many of these when I'm bored and messing around later. You didn't only end up getting to use half of them because you had to just play with it. Oh, when I'm bored in class and I extend the lead all the way out and then I accidentally break it, yeah,
01:59:12 I can do that so many times. That would be the worst. When you would extend it out and break it. You go to push it back again. and then like just not quite the right pressure angle. And it's like, oh, ruined it. Uh-huh. Now I'm back to, all I've got left is scraps.
01:59:30 This thing is just loaded with pure scraps at this point to just get me, you know, you get it, you pump it out, and then you go to push down and it's too short, and it just like mostly retracts back in. That's not enough there. Yeah. Story my life. All right.
01:59:49 Tommy, where do they find you at? You can find me at Tom Hock. underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner underscore bear. Just make sure to follow either Masonomics at Massanomics and Jim Radar at Jim Radar HQ. See you.
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