MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Amanda Nunes Subestimou Julianna Peña, Diz Treinador (+ Amanda Ribas)

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

Julianna Peña quebrou a banca e finalizou Amanda Nunes para levar o cinturão peso-galo no UFC 265 e Luiz Claudio, treinador de jiu-jitsu da venezuelana, conversou com o podcast sobre a zebra histórica em Las Vegas. O brasileiro, faixa-preta formado por Rickson Gracie, acredita que Nunes subestimou sua aluna no UFC 265, mas espera luta mais dura na revanche. Luiz Claudio também falou do retorno de Yair Rodriguez contra Max Holloway e seus próximos passos na organização. O podcast falou, ainda, com Amanda Ribas, que analisou sua luta com Michelle Waterson e a queda da xará — e companheira de equipe — no UFC 265. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Julianna Peña tapped Amanda Nunes to score an all-time upset and become the bantamweight champion at UFC 265, and her jiu-jitsu coach Luiz Claudio stopped by the podcast to discuss the massive victory in Las Vegas. The Rickson Gracie black belt believes Nunes underestimated Peña, but expects a tougher fight when they meet for a rematch. Claudio also weighed in on Yair Rodriguez’s performance against Max Holloway and what could be next for him. Trocação Franca also welcomes Amanda Ribas to chat about her upcoming clash with Michelle Waterson and ATT teammate Amanda Nunes losing at UFC 265. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz Hello, a friend of a second episode of podcast To Cocaceaucaceau-Franca, A Suhares over MMA in this immense

podaspera. I'm going to Michael R Usheria in Brazil and I'm going to be back on this quarterfair

in the company of Louis Clodd nobody that the person who offiar the jujitsu of Juliana to get

Amanda Nunes in Matalion in UFC 265. Louis Clos who is a faxed formato by Rixson

Gris will explain how the Penh, gained the Brazilian, if it's a revenge or not, and much more. And the podcast this week has even

a bit of a bit of time, to find out of after Michelle Watterson in UFC. Along to analyze the Lutta Rydell about the

Vitton, and why can't be a Vos to see a lot of the Rihanna Nunes in WFSI. So, without the

longas, we're direct to the first interview the day with the Minera Amanda Rivas. On the other side of the line

we have Amanda Rivas that on the day 26 of March finally will to confront a Michelle Waters in the UFC. All right, Madina. Be welcome to podcast. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you for the convict. So, finally, because it had to have done it right, that we had signed a contract to do that to do a year

last, and then occurred some problems with her with all and all. Then, now, man, car. That's it. For what you

think you think you think you're a lot that the UFC tried a couple one way, you asked, you said,

you went, was in the social to ask you for this lot, but the impression that was that the other than was that was

not very interested in making this lot so then it was I had made to call her to because she's the better rankeated than I

and I thought that it would make it's a idea, and then the UFC also she also

who had to get some problems people of her and it not did so it came to not ever to keep up to

never to after the UFC just joked other lute for me I've ever, Jok-O-O-Lut-Lutting, and he was not-Talma-Lutting,

and now I think it's that it's been that's all-d-you-fought- for a time of distance, and even more, it will be time to prepare. With you know, in that time,

you were in-bellated in the Fisina, with various victories, when I'd roll this lot in January of 2021, but it was you've confronted

the minute, you know, and did no, what did, and it, and she, and she, of this,

it's, and after that , and she, what's, what you did you, what you

never to be, when you're in, how is your your head, how is your way, compared to Amanda Ribbas of when this

fight would happen originally? Gosh, it's, because, this is very great, that was very

good, it's a way, it's a question, it's to be to be able to be the same

way, it's not, then it's not, I think in January, after the derrata of the Marino, I learned that you know, I learned that you're always

active, tend to be always trying to gain, maybe. No, it's not going to be prepared and not want to gain. You have to want to win, if another person, at least, is less prepared than you, but she can more, then, gania. I think I learned much this.

This is you see, you know, I lute my life entire, since I'm trying to get me tent for for people. I always have seen it, I always have this in my head, so here, I don't, a slice, I'm,

and I think that it has been a tonne in my heart of my question. We know

there's always always back in this technique, that you learn more when you can't,

what was the most the most the question that was in that you did in that

was in the kind of with this focus in the heart

to say with the victory with a victory, with a five-second that your opponent

can gain more than you can't, he can't, that's the moment that you start, see,

look for his horse, look for nothing, then it came a soco that the MMS

will be seen a one second enter the goal to the strangulamament or

or enter a knock a, a soco a chute that the kind of

how it how it was the way to be let's be able to be a form negative by the battle.

I think it is that I'm really, I'm very much, so I've already got very really, so my family

me gave all support in the church also, the pastors, always conversing with me, and I think

that I have this in the time of me, that sometimes it was not the time certain, sometimes she

was always she was always on my face, sometimes the other person was

more than moment. Not that I don't if I didn't want to if I'd say, but at least the person is trying more than I. We know that's not even math in the MMA, right? The fans are done to say, no, because

this person, got to say, who gave it to get her, so he'll, so he'll, and when those two are coming, you're going, you're going, no, you've , you've been the last, but you have to be a marina, and she's coming to the divorce by Marina, a Michelle Oateson, just

perished on the decision for her. Assisting the performance down in the what you can't expect, what what you can, what the analysis you did, you know, you know, you know, maybe,

I've had an opportunity to confront her that's the what you know, what's the question, that's, that she has that's a lot of

that's, that she can't really, that's that she'll be at the place, it's a lot, she, she,

she chuta. She, she, depending of the distance, she chute, I think, the, most surprising,

so, that she can't much, and this I I just I said, of the other other

that she, that she, she, she, she, she, she, It's

to see, it's to see. And how you get when you get to go to work

in March? I'm I'm going to get in the chown. I know I want to see my

true, because I feel like I have used to I've just I've seen I've seen my

lots of I'm trying much, I think that my tracation I'm sure I'm sure

with a shoot, like I I'm saying, I'm going to try to try in

but I'm but I'm thinking on the you know after the I remember that

before you infighted the marina the your father posted on Instagram a photo

that's with 65 kilos after the how is this work

of recovery of the person was something was something

was something that was you continued this kind of kind of

kind of how is this time in the last the

last I had a I had a I had a my

end no talking, that take a lot of this for me, I had in my head to be the way,

I'd be in the way, but it's not, now. I'm just, I'm, I'm like, I'm like,

it's a bit more with a barrigo this time, in those things certain, but I'll recover much, I'm going to

get a little, so now, now I'm trying to recover to get to to the weight to

the pace to be used to learn, so generally when I'm a lot, a month I'd just

I'd have to I'd quite to be a bit, not to be in a little, but it's a little,

I'm more with this the way, not to not get too not too because it no,

it's not it's not the price or less today that's a 603 72 it's

interesting, yeah, from 63 to 65, three kilo three kilin just two kilin so, it's like

it's not it's not it's different no, Well, at a little more in every little

that makes it it's a lot this thing of the piece is very d'clock You know, but one a thing is

like a little piece that gets a two kilos, right for you proportionally one for you, for you,

for you who is you can more in a division minor, one kilo, two kilos for you, for you,

it's a quantity of a quantity of a lot so quite the percent there, I think

recuperate too, me less and I'm a little, I you know, I'm

I'm afraid, can't be more than I'm maybe it's because she was she was she was very prepared,

she was the time perfect and I who I was suleyn in parra in in a front of a striker and a

we know that you know your your The objective is in busts of the cintrown of the FC Heence the last

Lutta contra Vina a victory importantism how is you think that this victory about you put it's not

the division because we she knows that she's very popular there has a ex-camp of Invicta

how is how is she makes make a does make do you in the rank

of the division she she's very she has made cart

principal the Luta principal. So, she's accustomed to this pressure too.

She's film, too, you know, see you have seen really really

I'm good. I think will continue I'm going to continue having that when I

entered to not so to not just to show that I think I

think the interview but in the October that is more important

I will I can show that I can with a

carateca that can a a hand very very very a man that's chute,

that she never, I don't remember if it's four, eight or seven luthas

that she got got on the finalizing so she she's a man, she's

a man, but in the ground, but it's so I want to, if God, she can't

make her to make that the woman in the cinema, you've seen the

she thought she she's a good, she thought she she's she's a better an

Ah, I thought she was awesome. I think very legal this when when you put an athlete in a film. I think it's really

like when the Ronda did the what's the film the film The baller also called the Ruthergianna

of Rottade I think you're looking at a caro, that that's awesome. It's a thing you would like

to do you do something to work with cinema to travel with television because I know you're

very is very constrained you're you're a drink, but we we, we we've got,

we said, we said, we're going to do you know, do you, do you, do you, do you,

do you, you know, this, this, you know, this, oh, come on it. Oh, imagine,

and I'm gonna interpret it, I don't see, I'd have to say, yeah, I don't see. I'd

accept a convict but I would have to trainar. Yeah, I'd have to learn, because you

came to grab a commercial a commercial manager, a commercial, in commercial, you're all posting

on your Instagram, the videos, doing the propaganda of the marketing, they're in a pastrocin, the fiat, so you're

coming up to this, per se lot there, to TV, of propaganda to be to interpret a

moment in film, maybe a point in a novel, it's a pull, so, but it's been very

long of the lute, because I think I'm making, because, for grab a commercial

that, 30 seconds on the television, it's time, Grava, even a scene about 50

times, imagine in a film. No, there's been to be long to look, or, I know when we

have to present it, because it's very can't be more, it's more, or do you

do that's three trains on the same day? I think to grab a commercial will

be the person, it's like, because, because, I'm not, the commercial has to

be to be so- trying, no, no, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, it's, it's, it's, the day that my gocheestered so you know what I'm thinking of trying to do you know

I don't know I'm quite I think it's a commercial more than satsatine for because of this because I have to have a car

plenna no, not I don't have to be to be a car plain, no that's fine,

it's great, no, I can't no, no, no no more, and take a car to feel like

to feel like soar and say, yeah, once I I was in San Paulo, that was in San Paulo, right? That kind of

from the viadult. And I had to sue. So, it was tacked in me. Oh, my God, the soul! I was thinking too too. It's crazy.

But, but, but, you know, we're talking to the ring, it's a bunch of the rung, but this rank is a bit complicated,

because the rank is difficult because the people who are, who vote, and, so, just people of

people of, like, to know, that's people, like, and yet, other 500, but there's

many people acime of you of the rank there, there's people do you know, does a lot for a year,

that's it's a cabbara in a division and this irritate a little, if you're like, you're trying the time

but the options as far as you know in the rank there's a lot of people that's that's

not, you don't know, I don't know if you're so I'm sometimes you're I think to have some

way to have been to see six six and annualment that I'm look so,

not there no ranking, not there's no way do it. I, I go to

the ranking, because I do I'm doing it. But I think it had to have a thing,

if the person no lot in the end of a year, we'll

take her to the ranking. I think, in the my perception, because what is

the year of 2020? Ah, the number one of the year the year

the number but if the person not not the time,

it's a example, right? I think so, yes. In our Rangk,

in our fight, we have a janela, which is a year and a year, it's a year, without a lot,

or at least a lot of, we're in, it's not the person, the number one, you know, well,

you know, if you don't come in the rank, no, so, so I think, that's, I think,

I'm not imagine, the those are not lot, I've done, I've done, I've done, and the person

that's not than the person that's the person who's, you're gonna, you're, you're in today's 10-day-officeal

of the FCC. Interesting, that's a Markees and Dunn, that's someone that's got in Kintan, she won't, she won't

after the many of the numbers that got over, you've got also, and she's just for the

Marina also, so you think it's kind of it's a way her in your front, in the rank?

I think I could be better in the rank, but she got two two two years

after after me. So, so it can't also, so I can't tell

if God if God if I want in the next, I go better in the ranking, that will have two victories after my

derot. I think that's true. And Michelle Watson, she's on 10, but she's in 10th, but she's in 9 in ranking today? So, you think

that this victory can't be to get more more, more more, more, more, more closer to the top five of the division?

I hope that same. Logic, also, it depends the way, I can't, I don't know, I can,

I can go to to the, I'm going to gain. But a victory is so you don't do you

know in the FECD, not the point of the great, thank you know, it's just

that when I think that's when I think that's when I'm saying, I'm like, even I

have been all the I'm doing, so, I'm going or not, my father and the C.

my father and my son Poundin, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, when, when he was

when, when he can point to point a round in your head? No, look, I don't consider. Then I'm there, I can't

I'm, then I'm go, I go, I'll assist, that generally when you get so, then I'm

another day, it's all right, then I'm all right, I remember everything, I'm not normal, I think

it's a dream, I'm know, I'm know, I'm, you, you're an athlete, that's,

you know, you can, you know, you know, you know, you know, how works the game

of the FC, personally. We know that we've always to mirroar out to be conquests a thing great. You have in your head, a next step, that would be interesting for you continue in this ascension in the division, for gaining the best of the Michigan? Who, who you

think you would have a good lute for you in the FCHA? I think the next, would be, who might be, who can't be, for a McKenzie, for we can't even to go, but right from the center on. I think it's not Lois, logo, but more than the front of the central, that she's between the names.

in my opinion, I mean, I mean, I know, I'm in the name of the centuron, you know, I know, I know a carlo

will be to look with a rose and not it's not not very because you're not quite strange with the

situation, yeah. I mean there was that Rose said that the only the

that she she's right to do with a carla but I think that one of the

name would be shen't or she would that, that, it's

all the time all the many people there's there's there's there's

difficult one to to be not going to be to be able after the then I'm more more

more far to know there's a bit more there's a name interesting that would be the run that was being the Yohanna Jetsack

that's that America Top Team also the fact of she'd be a T.T. would be impeditive for you

to confront her or you would be a lot interesting to be going to get to get to

first to those bastes there with with DEN with with, like, Seppampo, with my father, with Alex,

to see if it would be a problem, if not would, if it would be a good thing, then we'd be and then I don't see. She'd say,

she'd, she'd, there's, oh, there's America Top Team, there, there, has been, the Nina, too if it was to be the centuron,

but it's, different, is different to her relation with her, the Yohanna? It's, the Nina,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I did be a little complicated. But if it was a signet of a centuron, or like, if one of

the blues get, it's put to the dispute. Then, right, yeah, and then,

yeah, and the, she's, not, not, no, we're not, we're,

not, it was, like, so, Amanda, I'm, I'm, don't have

this, but it was, but it was the team, never, and it, and, it was,

you're, you're do you do some musk, that's the possibility even exists to have to make a diet

more more more than a different from a division of or the peso Pes-Pal is your house and

Pes-Mosca just in occasions special, so the Pesopal my house. But I came.

There will have been the F.C. Brazil, the day 7 of Mayo, now I just I

know, I'm going, I'm in May to be in Brazil that other other

that I did, it, no other didn't, my mom would be, my family

would be there, and then it was, if it was, if it was, depending on the result of the amount there's all,

this is, depending on the suspension that's the medical, maybe it's maybe it's 57,

no, no, no, I mean, it would be much, make a, make a,

yeah, imagine, it's, in the final of March would be so May, April,

and may, and may, it's, like, a month, maybe, yeah, more

And I'm not really. And talking in Brazil, in in, in, in, I'll put here in New Guinea, you have, there's a United your house, that's the United,

the same, but he's going to do the rest of the year, do the end of your camp, I'm training at the academy of your

father, and as I have said, after we're in having a interview, I have family in Varginia,

I've, I'm in the last time in Pos-Alegre, and the one of my two of my men, one of the

women, I, when I said when I said when I, interview and he said, I'm going to

why the devil's she's she's she's she's a little to move in Vaj

to see to move to to work in to work in my life so well I'm doing so I think that

I need to I'm not I'm here also that the partners of the there are very good

so since Cipalumpina to be there, I feel of him but he doesn't

not the same not the thing he's not the time to do the strategy. But here in Virgin,

I can't see the exames, all. There's a physiotherapist, excellent, that I confiow. My physio, my physician, gosh, I've had a doctor who made her operas, and she me cured.

Trenno. There's the men who help. Precise of a woman, awesome, of Jiu-Git. San Paul is here, there, can't come and come and come. They're in. R. January, here is all. It's all. It's

all. It's all. It's all. So, what else? Nutriation, there's excellent here also. My technical have here also. So I, I'm, along to be with

my family, where I'm where I'm really with my man, my man, so I can't I.

I've got to have a structure of training also. So for me, for in a while, in the camps,

I'm like I'm thinking to be able to have to be there, but I'm going to in this camp, I'm not feeling well, I'm talking to your

Prima, that I'll present some I'm going to present some of the other than, and I'm going to be very fechew, too? He's here is here, right? It's here, right? Yeah, it's right there. Yeah. And it's impossible to talk to varginia

without we're talking to the principal point of the city of Varginia, yeah, that's all the world, you say, ah, Vagia, it's a city of the E. That's the city of E. That's what you're going to be Maybe you're going to think, po,

of all the universe, beings extraterrestes were to land and decided no pose to where in Vagina. You think that they've

paused there on the day 20 January, the 96? I believe that not there's only the world,

no. I think, and why not postar here? I don't know. I think we'd be

very egoist to think that's just that's just that's just there, no I don't see. I don't

have proof, I never I never see, but I don't believe, I don't believe, I'm that I don't believe, he goes to me, push my foot, again. You know, it's like,

like, it, looks like a lot of, oh, in front of my house here, it's full of a tree. Then, imagine, I do with a janela open, all right, and all right, no, I'm not, I'm in this,

I'm not. You had so three years, when, theoretically, But again in your family says have seen something, some ET,

some disco-voidot? A my mother, paternal, said that she saw, do you know, she did

get to do to do and this forest that she saw, here, there's a lot,

no, this reserve, this reserve that I said, she said, she said, she did

even, it was all there, there's all this there was there, there,

many, there, there, there, there, and my dad said that I

don't believe no, that he actually was a reporter that was being a person

there's being a bit of was saying, he said, he said, I want to know, he said, I said,

I said, I said, I said, he said, he said, he got a and he's, there's a

little bit, and then she called police and just called everyone. So there there's various

theories, yeah, there's the theory of voododora, no, no, so you just

Of Varginia, of that's, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's probably, that's probably, that's

that I'm a vatic in a tailal of a house. Uh-huh. And then they were the night that

was trying to get a bath. The vaca came on the telliade, and the telliard, was a

little of the house, you know? This is another of a little troyin is a place,

it's a very special, it's very very dangerous. For this man appears in the guy,

That will have been, et appearing in the floor. It's not, it's just, it's a farce in Vagina. No, and it's, not I'm doing nothing, it's

a case different. One of the way, they resolved, oh, so, that's all, I'm sorry, they assaulted a on the bus,

you know, some of the same, that's, they're, they're trying, to start a un-haping

with this car-offer, obviously, no, no, no, no, no,

it's all, it's a , how it's, how it's, the day, the day, I just am I remember

of various cases that that's in the city there's there's some of the man who that's the most

that's the most to go to music for everyone there's you're going to go to the busina and you the person

famous in the city, there's many. How is the day of a manda ribas? How is

you are a person different in the city like the person of the person who is Amanda Rivas that everyone

all the Rousin Rivas our Ramb Rivas our Rambhous that's a man. And I that I generally, even more training, I go to to house, I'll go to house,

I'll go, casaopia, academia, physiotherapy, then I'm in the supermarket. The region, part of the academy, and here, part of the house, the people just got used to me. Then, all the people had to take a photo, but when I go to the center, it's very legal.

These days I went to center, as the kids, me know-connets much, much. I think very legal, this. Then the little bit to the mother, oh, my, man, it's Amanda. And the mom, it's just

with a bit more and I said, no, man, man, man, but, man, but, man, man,

she's, I'm happy, and then the mannini came, my bra so, I adore, I adore. You just you know,

with this side of celebrity when you know, you know, you know, and you know, and it's different

of Florida, because there, there, there, there, so I imagine that there there's

that you also I think there Tant the athlete of the FC, so I think

there's a not there's not there I'm not I'm not like the go in the game

so I'm like, but they they're more more than they are more than the top team there's,

say, there's, say, there's, I, say, there's, the

other the other and the rest of O'Ne so, so stop so,

and here in Verginia just I think it more things, but but,

but, but, but, but, but, attention, right? I'm very

I've got used to I'm like I'm like straight to go with the hair and I'm if someone if someone would want to

try a photo to make a photo to make a photo you're like and tell you with the hair with the total to

talk. A eye than the other no, and as sometimes I I don't do these things

much, I don't I'm know, I'm going to go and I just pick and go so I

don't planes so I'm to do this good. And I like to conversar. I don't start a person. And now if you want to do the other, so I want to do. Because, at least, you have to

talk, conversal a little. When you go to the campanato then you find out, who's who you just left, like, this person when you go to tietta, the side of tiet, like, to fan? Who, who's it? Can't be? This person here?

Until today, I feel like, with, I, believe? I don't can't talk with him. The guy that's... The guy, he's... No, I don't... I don't see. It's very do-do-this.

Look, oh, even with Donald, he's even with a lot of, and he

can't talk with me, so I feel like, I'm like, so, I'm, I'm,

you know, I'm, know, idiot, this, but not, he, let me,

let's see, here, let's see, let's see, let's see, the other, until I

can't, so, but he, he's the guy, the guy, the guy, I don't know,

the world, M.M.A. that's the world, NMA, And it's the guy that's who might you assuuster, yeah,

there's a lot, conversation with and I don't know, because I'm going to be. And talking in fan,

how is how is your interaction with the fans? I imagine that your inbox on Instagram be a bizarrest the time,

the time you have to receive, of comments in the stories and there should have many things

of messages of fans that you admire and but also there have been much.

I think very. There's people that even imaginable that would never imagineable that I'd never I'd even I think much I'm really

I'm saying where I don't see in a lot I don't see what I think I think it's people who can't get to pay

that's just let's see what more I think I'm more I think the I think most I'm

I think he's he's a lot he will see the foot he can't be the great lance if you

need to see photo of but I I say, I saw, no, and one

one way, I posted a photo with my friend, there are some men who have been started

all to do you know, out of my family, and I'm my wife, not,

I'm a little bit, too, and when I did I'm too, oh, my God,

Amanda, I'm gonna get in depression, because you did this with me, I'm calm,

so, there was so, so, you, was a, you, you're,

you're having to have been It's very, it's very different. But, but back to

talk to MMA, the ATT, just to finish, I'd like you thank you. I'd like to thank you. I'm very

hard for there. Influismate a Rewart Dura in the beginning, with Amanda Nunes, and she said,

and it's a signor of her in F.C. for Juliana Pania. It was a lot of people who

know the people, I'm going to have been too much because Amanda Nune, you've said

many of some of some of some inspirations, in the spot. Ah, it was very complicated,

and know, I see, the athlete that we put a man, I, for example, I'm in, like,

I'm gonna get to get her and she'll get all, because for me, she's very intelligent, in the

game, she's very, gosh, I think she, she has, she has a vision

of a lot, awesome, extraordinary. And when she was when she was,

it's difficult to say that. At least she's the better than I, like I said it's like I, I'm the best of her, but nobody knows how she's

she's not rendered on the day, and there's people who just say, that's the way, I think, I say,

I'm, I say, I'm, I don't I can't believe, I, I don't, ah,

not to think the person's going to know the person is passing the day. So, the only, who's,

you know, the post, to gain, so you can't get, I think the people who not competes say that's

it's a very I know she's like she she's she can be championing the category of she's

she's just per day she's she's and the now the she's she's

she's that she's she's she's so don't see the hour she

she's she did a vote for soon in various difficulties she she was

she was a she she didn't she had to have the Simmo along the career, so we've

already showed this head to get a looking for this look, what you think did the wrong? Because in the

first round she was very she was very she was she was chastigando the woman but in the second round

it was it was that it turned that did do all to her I don't

talk with her even so I don't know so I'm that in the day she

she's she's with a she doesn't get to you're taking

a ton of Oh, nobody knows if sometimes she's the she's she,

I don't talk about I don't know about it, I don't know what at a few, it's been

it's been a thing, if it's something that's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

it's a, it's a, if you had to put a year, in a house of a post, how is you think you

think the advance in 2020 2022? I think it's probably, for a knockout, you know, I thought,

you're, you're, I'm, I'm, I think, I think, yeah, the,

yeah, the, I, I, not caught in the Amanda. It would be a man. It would be a manned to have a manned

to take a manned to get more than a new year and then it's a new year. One or two. One or two. Pally and Moist.

The one we're going to two. The mandas the America Top Team will dominate the FCC. It's just.

Imagine. Imagine. That chic. Ah, yeah. A. Four. It would be very beautiful.

Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm anxious to do you. I'm anxious, to see to Vaux and Aung against Michelle

Watterson. Ah, very good I can I thank you for the interview for the time in the

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in the UFC 269 Luis, a pleasure to have you here that first that you have you present that many people here in Brazil don't you know

you know, you know, you're doing a lot of a work very a work very a great who's a

man who helped a juliana penna to get back literally in NFC 29 poche, let me know first,

thank you for the opportunity yeah to be in the channel and pox you I'm too States

Units, so, as a few, we don't know, we know, we know,

and if someone that I know from the old, it's a different, but I'm just to get a little to get

to the United to 90, 90, 91, and a little bit of time, your student, an eternal

student, the master Rixon Graysie, got the Fasha of Rickson in 2001, and he came

doing this trajectory in the Jujito representing, uh, the and, that's

some talked some how is how you will train someone to take the title

of the I'm going to get there after questions, but of a potts

or a title, I know, I know the the title, I know,

the but it continues with a Brazilian who love the but I'm

I'm in 30 years of Jiu and the Fache Pita of Rixson and

working with some athletes, that I have an opportunity to work and then

the people sometimes don't know, I'm trying with Rothwell, that unfortunately he just to have been

now, on the same night I had two athletes, which was the Rothwell, who,

you know, came, and was coming and was coming and the Yair, that was two years

he was a man-card with Halloway, that did one of the last time that was,

the patron Dana Wight went there, thank you, and so, it's a dream,

living, after the after the year, we're doing, we're in the title, so it's a

thing, a thing, so God, just God, just God, so God. With a thing

a story, what was your reaction on the Juliana? Vendal all over passing,

she was passing, what was what was what you passed by your question so

to be the story being made, It's a surreal, yeah, so, first,

because, uh, of who, uh, of who's, we need, God, God,

to try the credit of her, it's a champion, continue being a champion, yeah, she's still champion of 4,

5, and they're talking in rematch of them of them to be them, so what I

think, is, it's a thing a thing surreal, yeah, first, because Amanda

Nunn's, and I, and I always I'm like I said, we have very foot on the the people in the first,

like, like, criticing much a Juliana, because she was in the media to say, you are in this, you know,

we've got, we've got, we've got, we, we, we, it was to have to have to put,

to, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,

much, much, much, much, so if you can't , When the Juliana

got a Sarah MacMann in Abu Dhab she said, she said, poach, I want to look to Amanda, in impotis

some of it, was dismercing or, or, or, or, people said, but it's marrenta

not the question. The question was that she had to say, for the person, look to look to look,

look, it's really, it was that was it was it did a interview, she said, no,

because Amanda, Ah, Amanda, a Juliana, no stop to me text, no, don't stop to me to get, because it was the only way to get this opportunity.

And, from the UFC 200, that she's in-gannot, Amanda, in that era, said, Amanda, what is the

next, now? The Juliana gained Da-Kat, I've got got to Kett, if she got got to the Kett, I don't

remember this. Amanda, was going to to Zingham. So, then, it was what happened, that started, that started,

and it was there. Because Amanda had been , you know, and her Jolena got and then, and then,

it was, I don't know exactly what was said, but she, I'm repeating what the Juliana

said, uh, no, because Amanda said, that would would be and then

it was all this. But then, it happened a lot of things. Amanda they're the opportunity to Ronda

to her, then, po's, the Ronda, not was Juliana Penha, you know, obviously, much a grand,

good for the lotters, good for, for MMEA feminine. So, I think it was really, unfortunately,

for the people, and, for the MMA, for the MMEA feminine, because, really,

after that Amanda Nunes gained her Ronda, poca, it was a boom, a boom for Brazil, a bum for the M.M.A. Feminine in the Brazil. So, we're getting us all,

and I'm, I'm so, God, I'm the, and I think God knows of all the right right, so

it was to be to be a time, I'd get a, I'd, understand? So, so,

when the Amanda gave the first shoot, yeah, I, I also, I also, I feel, I'd have to chatyed

like, there were some people who are the lot of proucapped, porra, my my mom, God, me leave, guard, a lot of course,

I don't say a bestere this, not, man, God, don't say any kind of, I don't say a besteer

this. Amanda never would be to be able to she's a money to be able to to do

for a other event, because I never would be a reputation of her, and vend

a lute, we'll to be a Juliana, the guy, has been five years.

And the Juliana also got a daughter, po, there was a problem, mascoe

joelel, yeah, things that happens with the other people, that's people don't have

so much a lot of happened, and it's that's, when she took the first,

I said, gosh, that, that's, that's a car, that was a car,

that's been my time, and everything we're we're all, and we We know that she'd

shud, she puts a point-of- the point-the-air the point of the end of me-live, it's an absurd

of the man, so, we're just, we're trying, we're doing, and the fact,

we've got to this camp in January, car. The person didn't know of the year that we

started this camp in January, because we we'd this lute and August. And then

the luta was put up put up and it, was even good, thanks

to do and we we've more time to prepare so was that

look, we'll have one of the time in the life. So, we're going to work day and

night, day, night, this girl, she was, she trained she never, she ran over day.

The people don't know of this. Three, four times per day, car,

with a daughter she, she's, she's the day and she, and she,

she, she, she, she was, the, the, the, the,

was massages, gelo, and to her and to her and she's that she's that she's that she's

so, when she I said, I said, carac, we're going so, we're going to

get a bad, she was a way she got her she came, she came, she came,

she came, to check, to check, and so, and it did, and the second shoot

and went to let's, let's get this lute, and Amanda picked the monda and

when Amanda picked the when Amanda picked her her head that she's

when the people are in the she's the person's in the she's like, she'll finalize the people there, but Amanda was with a with a brother's like, man, I said, my God, God, God, I'm saying, my God, my, God, God, I'm saying, man, I'm talking, I was like, yeah, I was gonna'clock, you know, I looked at Julianna, I said,

look for the cutovel. When it's the strangulation, you have to look for the cutovino, the head on the floor. And then Juliana went to the head on the floor, went to the ground, I said, glory to God.

Let's go, let me bring up. And then, when she sent her, the Rick Little also, who is the head coach of her,

said more things, I said, and then we got him in the second, then she had she had in

the final-in- the first round, and she- when she took, when she took, she, she went, there I don't see

Amanda sent you I don't see Amanda not didn't kick so much and it's

more for another occasion and then it was what you see it was

she was she was she said she was I said in 1. in 1. 3,5

the power of the power of Amanda not not so so because she

has much much the person and it's a normal

you I think the socos that Amanda could get a Juliana if it was in a 4-5 I think

it would be difficult to her to be in but then the quantity of the soco that was a julana

also you're more pesed you're you're getting so I think that kind of like this

for us it was the night and obviously unfortunately to Amanda not not was

not the night of her, but I think for a 1-35, I think it's complicated that cut of her, you know? You? You're surprised with the velocity that Amanda desisting? Because for me, I was sitting at me surprised, me surprised, like,

I'd have just had just got to encaschard, she had never even took to put up and I'd juste'd, I'd think, for some moment that maybe if she'd be smachyded, or something, but not, that was really the finalization that she'd justed a rapid, right? what happens I had in the

I had in the same, we know that Amanda also the facha black, casca grosser in the ground,

has finalized various lots of so, my God, it's a chubb of the padra that we're

saying, poe, on the altar, it's absurd. No wrestling, good too, in the Jujito,

you're saying like, how we can get this woman, so the so the gainer was

to try to try to push the possible as whatever

like, the guy who is, like, the woman, the man, try to empower this look like the Halloween. The I-Ilott with Halloween,

we're trying to push this to the final, you know? And, and I, I mean, I,

I said, two years parada, yeah, any other athlete, man, poche,

you can't two years in a category and when you're going to cut, you go and you're

like the McGreg, you're going, but he's, he got one, the Alde, he said, never more

I'm going to I'm going to when the Magregor Batte in a 3-5 the peshage and he seems he's like he is going to

I'm trying I'm trying when I saw when I saw Amanda vying on on face off she even opened her casack

to show to post her abdomy and she my god oh my god this can't this can't

was very good for her she was she was she was she was very well. So I said,

I still, I still I said with the other coach we've had a reunion yeah, we've had

a reunion zina and we're we're in a hour and a half of all of the time, not just

just to get there and not so we're so we're so we're so we're and we

could be and I also, I said like so I said like, I said

I'm always came in this cutt of her was much good. I I knew that

the Juliana has a Juliana has a Juliana had a manned she was she was

she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was

she was she was and in this but I'm talking because if I would be if I was

different because I'm so it not not it was not it was in the

last she she she was in the finalz she got in she got

in the single leg. Por, single leg, if you're getting in a single leg, you can't get in a

single leg, you have to get a person to get a person to get to get a guy, and all you know,

and all the whole know, if she said, in three months of camping, we never did a single or a double.

It was what she did with Amanda, and she was a much good there. When she she put her

down the round, I said, I'm a lot. But if you see the first round,

the Amanda, she really was feeling, like a Juliana also, I came in the academy, the other said, I said,

I saw, I saw, oh, you've got a try-oroughed, you know, a boy, a man, a, a guy who has

juggish, never, no, I never, I said, I said, I said, you know,

you know, you're going to what these guerreys, during five minutes, you know, you're in,

you have there 30 seconds, and the person no sense, the, poche, of what, my,

my man, it's much a little time and you just go there, you're trying with Amanda Nunis,

right? When she got the post there, I knew that I had to get her. She'll

she has a strangulament that she doesn't need a lot of the that it's a much time,

you know, we've been a perfectional with the time, that when the person

aback the quacks, she, she, it's, it's, but it doesn't

the maxi there, it looks the, it's like it's there, I don't see,

I don't see if there Amanda can't or, like, like, or,

because there, she, she can't make, she can't, I'm sure, I don't say, I don't know,

I don't have there, but I know, when a Juliana gets there, she, she gets,

she, so, no, I, don't see. But I think the Amanda

not, I think she, really, she, really, she, she,

felt, and, like, any athlete, you know, you know, there's a time you get,

then you're going, you're going to go back. We're going to go back. You know, she's the last thing that

not the interview pre-lut for combat, she said, ah, that was, like, I was, in

resum, that was a remand, to get a home, the new, a gemene to know,

and that were good, to do an opportunity to other athletes, that were that were more above

the rank, like, as you're, like, was a a charity, like, because she,

because she came to a victory so, you know, in a certain way, she thought, she didn't

not, she was, she'd a rode home how she would be, how she would be

yeah, with a certainty, I think that I actually, I think, I'm a

chateateate because, poach, total opportunity that I took some interview, because I

don't know, I'm the level of America top team, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, in, so as a America

Top Team because it has been years and years but I always always I'm always

not I'm not I'm not I'm not about but I'm talking about I'm saying the Miltie

is the principal apprentice Ritchson Gris so I'm always saying well I'm always said by Amanda

I'm I'm always been of America Top Team, never in Pots some of I'm gonna Amanda will

will be I'm me leave, not even, because we know we're going to be

the war. But I feel like that, like, so, all the interviews,

Amanda, really, I think she she was, she was, she was, she said, and,

and more one way, that were not were the , I said, really,

that she really, that she said, I think, I think, with a lot,

it's a person, but the person, about people, I think she was chatea. The Kona also said some things, too,

he has the right, he is the master of her, he was the professor, and, you know, really, a way, you see a little

little bit more, who's you, know, I think the I don't know exactly, but I think that this

woman that she loted of four, five, I think the record of her was, it was frae. I don't know

if it was three in three. Someone had me said, like, boy, she'd, she'd, and 3.3, are reclaming with a Juliana,

who was championed of the Tough House, pox, you know, I don't remember 27, 2. The minute, the last lot of her, it was 10,4 in M.A. So, you know, it's very much better than I thought.

So, it's the same, yeah, the, of Julianna Penh, right? Exactly. So, so, what, the Amanda, you know,

put, that's saying that the Juliana no, She said, she's, she's who has, you know, bat with the same number and

and so, what is the, what is the, yeah, what is the beef, yeah, what is the problem?

What is the , yeah. Yeah, and then, obviously, the Juliana, yeah, Amanda,

are with a manna, because you know, that's a packette, I'm not a lot of

a lot of a lot of, fact, she, she, she, it, for Amanda,

yeah, in the I'm I'm talking to she, she's she trained much to

this lot, much a lot with a coach Mike, the coach Mike

of the coach Wayne Gregory who is a boxer also wonderful he's a kickboxing

so you see that really the auto of Julianna it's really really

obviously there, but she's but she's but she but she's but she

there a lot to have a bunch of and a lot of coach who never did nothing, and they're doing to do palpit.

But, yes, I think she, I think she she's overestimed same, that I think that's a

champion, man, same thing, the same, I'm a respect, very, I'm very, I'm very,

I'm really, he's really, to bring up, in fact, inferelyment, in the story of the MMA, the Weidman

gave a to a-o- question of him, and I'm a lot, I think it's normal I think she,

she, car, she no, she had more nobody to really, and who more that she would be able to

be, the more she'd be able to if not more men, as new, you know, you think

after this shock of reality, let's say, she'll be subestimed in revanch or

I'll have a lesson. Oh, no, I think no, I think, obviously,

obviously, um, a, a champion of Pott which is Amanda, never. Yeah,

I, look, let me, let me, let me, let me, I don't think the,

Amanda subestimed a point of not trainer, you know? I think she she was she knew,

that she was a molless, a juliana not a molless, and even it's complicated

because the people say, poor, but Julianna was, Julianna

and the, and the Valentina, and the Juliana Perle, not we're going to

get the men's the women, the juliana her per because she don't have ground em-pounder

we're not we're not we're in the per cent you know and geth the head to get the

arm uptoveled and pass the guard never never in three months we can't we never

did this but guys sometimes you are there in the precipitation that's that anxiety

you go and you go and you know the we're we're we're also we

So I think that this was the problem of Julianna. If she now, she'd have gained, that she was going to be in the second round, she was going to the second round. She was going to go back. And you know?

And you know, and you know, Amanda, got it, sure. Yeah, in the second round, we got us. So, M.MA. It's so-y-you-a-i-i-i

with a Korea-Zombi. For, the luta-perdata. The final-in, the cutoveled, a lot, My God, docault of the year, of the second. So it's complicated.

I think Amanda, if really over this revenge, if it comes to happen, obviously, obviously that she catacombe, we catacom there, we're catacom there, a leoah. So, po, we'll have to have respect too. And, with, with, with certainty, it will be complicated. And if really over this revanch,

but it's a revoke of the second. With a lot of form of that many people simply think a Julianna not had a chance of any of course.

I admit that I were one of the people that was one of the mother to Amanda, that she was like her

hyperfavorita that if a Juliana would be the story, and for me she made the major zebra

of the story there. It would be a kind of to be this type of narrative of that

it's more a lot is a a person a party in the park, as as I said in the States that is a lot

a lot of fast, but I thought, I don't know that it would be a lot of fast, but I thought that would be a mother,

it was a lot of the mother, was a favorite-som and that Amanda, obviously,

was a favorite. Favorita, favorite. Even, I also also, I don't be,

we don't be, we're not, we're just let me be realist, no, Amanda

was a favorite, but what I said, In a 14-5, so that someone asked

asked you asked you asked, I think asked, I'm in a minute, but in a four-five,

the manned the, the Juliana, no, I'm going to keep here in three and five. I don't think

a favorable, I think would be a smart, not intelligent, sub-sum for a four-five. It would

be intelligent, Julianna to buy-a-to-5. You're understanding? Legal. But if Julianna sub-to-an

to be to a-4-5, I don't think Until, even, because, po, they're, they're very great. The Juliana,

she's, she's going to a carambe, caram, car. A-4-1. You know? To batte a 3-5,

a 3-6. It's a lot. No, it's a car. So, the can't have to be 15, 20 pounds.

So, I always said, the people, po, man, nobody was, nobody,

I'd believe. But, but, but there two factors that I think important. The first

is that the Juliana, we always always said that the other the athlete amaroling, the loterlator

amarerlo. A Juliana in a day in any from the from the FC 200 when we looked with a

Kat that she said that she would be that she would I felt I felt like when she said,

I want to I want to fight with her, I want to get to I'm sure I'm I want to

me defyer and I don't see that I'm not I'm not and the time entire

in the train she'll I'm going I'm going I will be a I'm going to I'm going

I'm going to never seen that this, I'm sorry of fear so I'm so yeah so I'm

like was a something like this is my and the other factor, I said

I said in the first, I knew that in a 3-5 Amanda would continue with the

velocity she would continue to sharp but she would the power of her

of punch the right right punch of the the soco of the right

but I had much the pointer we we prepared much to

the pointe because, in the interviews in Portuguese, I see all,

we need to study all. So in the interview of Amanda in Portuguese, she, she,

how she says, obviously, Portuguese, she, she said more more details than English. So,

she had a little, she, she, she, the, the guy is passing

a lot, and she she's going to the lot, how is, no, here I did this,

here, I did this, so, She always said that the right of her

proceed, it would come a, after the point of the pointeer, I said, oh,

here you see that I do the first, the first, it's the second, and it's the

other, and the other, when she came the the right, the next, you know, she was,

she was a car, on the the chan, I'm in the car, so, all,

we, we, like, not the , like, the lute, the us, because

we never had been champion, like, as a coach, so, like, we've got him a lot of

house, so I knew, I knew, I knew, that we had in the, no,

no, the power, and I, I'm sure for you, I don't think, that she,

she, that she would be the power, so- I think she,

she didn't, much, I don't I didn't I'd know, I'm not, but professional

yeah, very caska gross, man, man, yeah, there's a man,

there's a champion, not a champion, professional, America, the team, you know, really, yeah,

we're soce, we're just, we're just, compliment, there, there's a quality, but,

like, I don't have, but, but, compliment, so, the coach of wrestling,

there is marvellous the guy does a really, yeah, car, absurd, so, gain the demand,

yeah, and pox, a guy's new new, like I say, new, that I'm so,

I'm not so, really, it's a blessing of God, God, and not not yet,

not he's saying that the revanch she's finalized to do, or you think, maybe a knockout

there? Look, I, To preview the future, not, because the future a God pertains, and it would be, oh, poach, not being humble, to say, no, will, go, will finalize, you. Obviously, the we want to do Jiu-Jitsu, we always want to finalize, but for me, if we're going to say down with a hand-le-levented, it's good,

I, in the day of the lute, when it was to go to the last year-in-a-luck-all-all-law-a-lure. I'm going to Rixson, my master. Then I called him. It was wonderful, because he represented in the Jiu-Jitz, and then he said to Oh, my God, my God, the Ricksson will be with me.

So, it's very many, I wanted to, I, I want to be that the fans of Brazil sobecese, yeah, Juliana just went to camp with me in Brazil. A Juliana is like if it was my daughter,

yeah, car. Juliana, morrow with me, until she, she, Julia, I am, the, I'm,

am the Brazil, am, am, she, she, She ran in a Portuguese, that she says, Spanish, I know, I'm, she said to me, she said to pay, she'll be

by my father, yeah? Pai, pocha, you go to Brazil now, I'm going, I'm going. I, I'm going to, I'm going, but no, but I'm going to have to, you know, that she will visit her family of her. I said, oh, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, mark it that I want, I want,

so, really, she'll love the Brazil. So, the, Juliana, is a piece of Venezuelan, a pedus American, and a a pedace brazilia. No, forget that, I'm a realeer, I'm a realtor.

Just for you got a ball saying that the Juliana, she would not be a 4-5, but would be to a

champion of La Valentina Tyevichieb Chivichenko, so you can't imagine a scenario, that the focus would be rolling

the revenge with Amanda Nunes, but it's a possibility in future she go to get in

the re-bust of this car, like, just even we've even, because

when the When we came to the interview, you know, reporters, know, they're going to and the lot of the

loter in that in that the kentura there, we're going to get back and that

thing, that those things, those guarded, of that was benospresada, of that was

rebachated, of that was humiliated, she, she, she puttour much the besteer,

that had, um, a, like, a, so, a,

that not was a but to hear but it's good not car so there she said when she went

when she came in the she went she said she went to say I'm gonna say that I'm and I'm

saying and I'm saying look like I'm like oh look and she got abacher

her head I'm so sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry said merder said it's weird

said what is it's I said, but I will you give this. I said, because, poach, I understand. Poe, but I had to say, no, I know what,

poxed, I, I said, I said, no, I'm going to be no a man. I said, look, the important

to go to the front, everything, you know, we have to learn, we're always with who who's

who was champion and he's the title. So, oh, oh, the,

oh, Mr. Linda, yeah, that I am a tant Amanda, and

people who have been reconquished, and other athletes there are people for many years that's many

it's very difficult and we're a champion a Saturday but we don't know if this next to take this year we'll end up

because the level is very high man so I said to her the thing the first first,

take the your fairies because really this camp imagine a a body is the body she's in

pedacinus man, I said, I'm saying, I'm going to I'm going to go look like that I'm going to look

like she's like like I'm proud of the week next week next to be that's a porcaria no,

let me let's be time, it'll get a time, let's your body, it's a year,

I don't believe that Amanda would want to her own, the proper Amanda said, me give a time here and we do

a time here and we do that this revanch because she's a night, her new, she needs

too, mentally, physically, we need, we need, we need, I need, for,

to be a second with a person, without, work at time, work in second

to work again. So, I think the Juliana was very important this victory

for her, because as a lotator and as I see some the lotators have opportunity to work

to work I've already I've got I've got jiu-jits not in this level of MMA

but like we have many doubts in the head so like any like any

like any so I think that this will give a more inraisada in the

vision of her and also to think what she's doing, that's important, that I always

when the person starts to be a champion, and comes to defend the title, and comes to virile the goat, it's because she goes in a stage, that when she's not, she's training.

Or he's training. And you see, the other people, all the person, it's all right, it's like the Matrix, right? The guy's in a other

level, and really, is what happens. What happened with Amanda? It was that really, she was to the Matrix, and nobody couldn't get to

get to get really, so this breaches that a Julianna was a thing was a great deal for that's that's just

that's that's it's okay nobody never ever never ever that the the loar of

the PFL that was I don't see yeah she was she was there she was like in the

when Mike Yassah pulled that he that he came that the guy was filming there

was a little a virada of post they're announcing a juliana as a champion

and the fuck fuck! She was she was very very because

this she made a interview she was saying she she said she she not she said

with who obviously she was practically was a lot she was a lot of

her all the world just would a mega is a lot that in a four,

five, she can happen but I'm not a kind of the head of her and I

know the kind of I'm going to I think, there's much a thing to happen to

it's it's just to be not to never never, I think to

get to and my man, I'm going, and Juliana did

obviously errors like all the people to get to get her to get her, to her, to her,

to her, and we can't defend this title, and to be able to the title, because if if you're

beseer, it's going to get to be a man, you know, I'm a leave, but. But Julianna

no, no, Pesomoch and the is a possibility, real, of what happened?

Yeah, a Julianna even said, yeah, that she would be to look to with a Germaine

and a, and a, and a, and a, the, know, that's my God

God, the Lord is an absurd, yeah, God, that's that's

a girl a dourourn, yeah, the Powerpunch, that she has, the force that she has, that's the person also,

the person also doesn't know. A Juliana pego a lot of people in the academy. Pega man, it's just to make the most the whole guy.

So, the nico, don't know how she's not really, how she's d'U Louis Claudio, I'd would be

to maintain a Juliana in a 3. But, but I'm the don't the team, I'm just

only the professor of jiu-jitsu. But, so I'm with her, we'll talk. But,

car, everything of what the patron say, and the numbers appear to be,

obviously, if she she would go to a 2, 5, no, if she was a

little, I think, it's a possibility, that would be good, yeah. With

so to thank you to say about your time, and then just to say,

you know, and he just about to do you to look ats with Max Holloway. Surprended much people,

know, performance of his, everyone imaginable that would be more a party of Max Hollowey, because the Max Holloway is in a

absolute in the division, and the IA. not lot about much time. What we can expect of him in the next

a lot? How is, imagine, that's really after this war again, but what the plan of

the next pass in the category? Yeah, he, he broke the foot there,

he broke the foot one of his chute of his really, it was really

epic, a lot a lot so marvellous the world now, how much respect

for Halloween and the like it was like it was like it's like very very good

so much that's people are these people are this level and the respect

absurd when the when the fight the guy the person the matchmaker

all everybody went after everybody everyone so my man my

man a lot of what was a really was a really was a absurd. Obviously,

we've seen some things, I, I, the time entire, if you see if you , if you're paying the answer

now, you go out of patada, patada, pat! that I'd that I'd that I'd that I'd

more. But then, but then there because, car, the Hallow and if to try a box with him,

he gains all the world. The box he's an absurd. And to put it to back back to him,

it's complicated-dissom, that the defense of wrestling of him, he's very good. So, it was cutoveled, patada, which is chute,

you know, and, car, and a opportunity, obviously, to try to try, you know, that really, we went to mind

the Halloween, there were some there, and I said, we're going to, so, and then, he was a

two years, he had a problem of the oil, uh, problems personal, and all, and,

car, to get that really, really, I thought that the the would

be a a lot of a round extremely, that I thought that I would

would be to be up to obviously not what we were we're we're going to

get a final of round and try to Halloween because the hallway because you know

the lot of the lot of times it's he's like at like the car he's

got to So, by the moment of God, but at times it's a lot sometimes, it's a lot of

so, car, a we need of these tulle-lade that were things that were not

not just mark the he goes, he went to the porrada. So, we're we need, we need,

we need, we need, for the car, get, for, get a, yeah, yeah,

get been being a thing, yeah, we're going, we're, we're gonna put a peter

we're going, and then, enter, the chute the case, enter, because if I was

to tryca-ation, so troca-ation, so I think the plan was good because I think we're like, we're just

but it's very close, I think it was very good, and it's that when you get,

but it's your name, you know, so I think, and the same night, porra, we're,

we're, we're a manor maner, and, car, the tactic that we train-down for Ben, it was totally the...

But, when entered the chute, the first shoot, the Ben, no check-o-the-chute. My man, on the time, he said,

he said, he'd have... Pia of the life. Pud. Oh, I don't believe that I

did that way, how I, how I don't enter to make to make, to finalize to, like,

and, I said, I said, well, he said, I, The guy, the guy,

it was 100, he came to 10, he came very rapid, and when you disequil- he was

very malanda, he parted to the way, and he's done but, car, it's a

Luta, M. is this there, it's a man, it's a end up a

so, so, so, so, if God, let's, we, we,

we, we, I don't much time, to help, the coach easy,

that is the wrestling, who is the wrestling, the coach of wrestling of John Jones, famous-assie, who me called,

I had made the camp to IA. to B.J. Payne. And I did very little time to for Frank,

that in the time, not was the lot of when they were, I said, I thought,

I think Camp Swanson, had offered the Camp Swanson or Coeurz. But then, in some decided

the Frank, and Frank if title. I think it was a very precipitated in a moment. Extremely precipitated. I've ever seen. I mean, but I think so,

yeah, guys we're learning, and every day that we're getting, and they're getting as a lotpeter. And we're trying these victories, that really is, it's hard, no, it's not easy. With all for you to finish, if you could

choose the possible adversary of Iyir, with who you would want to confront us? There's There's many people who would like to see that lot of the Luton to Zabit, that's going to happen some times and not roll. He also doesn't know a lot of time,

since 2019. For you, what would be the next step to do you in the division? I think, I think that after two years

parado and they're a hallway for him, poor, I didn't think in my case, like, in my case,

like, like, they're, like, want, they're, kind of, to do the guy,

yeah. Por, the way he'd were just the fact of him not have

been a bit of the other that's a great promotion and I'm like that

come out of like a kind of a car two years part of a boy,

go and that's a lot of a lot to do a lot of a lot of a

but put they're a hallway coming something like there's much to say that

or we accept us or no. If not accept, I think it would be cut out. So, that was that that's like, that's like, this is to re-rigue, you can't or gain, but, but it was in a decision,

but with a gochie to get gained. Now, I don't would have this fight now if you're against the abyss.

Now, now. Because, po, I think it could be other guys, you know, for him to vote to

what he he sent him the rhythm there if you see obviously five rounds

with even I think he did he did bad he did he had paid to go to

play the he played he went he was wonderful so now he so

I don't have a person like he would he could be more a man he could be

a lot to make a lot to be a lot of two the last, and then so Zabid, you know, that he

just would be more going to form, and not say, physically, and he showed that he was very physicallyly. But I'm mentally, timing, right? That's time, right? It's important a lot, man, even more,

look, look, look, look, look, look, the level of Halloway, Zabit, you know, the level of the car is very a lot, so, it's just pica, so, it's just Pica, so,

I think Zabid now, not would be a, if me question I'm I'm going to I'm going to I think it's a good,

but I'm two two, three luts, let's the guy to get the time, let's the guy not the time, right?

With a question, I'm sorry, I'd like that so much good to talk with you. Parabes, more once

for the victory of Julianna Sub-Manda Lunes and anxious for this for this revenge there that will

happen, there's much a context historic and much context of money to be made to all the

sides. I'm right. I'm going to thank you. I'm going to opportunity. Poach, very great

there's a guy who's getting to know of the things, I think it important, that our fans,

Brazilian, marvellousous, yeah, have to be through the thing that is going to do that

is going to the two sides, so I think it very many the people also know the side of

Juliana and see that she really, oh, she's a manzona, like

Amanda, have family, have the problems, have the difficulties, so, oh, Julianna, car,

pass her much a difficulty, car, much. Look, God, God, what does,

Juliaanda is very merceidora. She's a person so, so marvellously illuminated, man,

she's good, people good. Look, I know, I know, and she, she's one of the few

people who say, car, it's in my hand, you know? because it's

very, very marvellous. I'd thank you. I'd like all the people, my family, my family, my,

my wife, my children, the team, and you're who are always these work there's, that are doing

all these these notices marvellousous that really really is legal, everybody to be saying,

and then the time that if I'm going, I'll be a day to talk with you with more a victory

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