MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Deiveson abre jogo sobre rompimento com Wallid, futuro no UFC

Episode Date: July 6, 2022

Tudo mudou na vida de Deiveson Figueiredo. De casa nova em São Paulo, onde treinará com Charles do Bronx, o campeão do UFC volta ao Trocação Franca e abre o jogo sobre por que trocou de empresário, deixando Wallid Ismail para assinar com Urijah Faber, revela quanto recebeu pela última luta, comenta os rumos da divisão dos moscas e a possibilidade de subir de peso, e muito mais. O podcast recebe ainda Caio Borralho, que enfrenta Armen Petrosyan no UFC deste sábado em Las Vegas. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Everything has changed in Deiveson Figueiredo’s life. Now living in Sao Paulo and training with Charles Oliveira, the UFC flyweight king returns to Trocação Franca and opens up on why he parted ways with Wallid Ismail as his manager and signed with Urijah Faber, how much money he made in his recent title win, the latest news in flyweight and bantamweight divisions, and more. The podcast also welcomes Caio Borralho, who faces Armen Petrosyan in the co-main event of Saturday’s UFC Vegas. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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board of Spheria. I'm Grettecruis, correspondent of the site American on MMIFare in Brazil, and I'm going to see the company of Davidson Figuero.

Campion of the Mosh of C, that's full of new news in a career. All right, my friend, for a visit podcast.

The thing in San Paul, since I came in, I'm not par them. All the time would be

a total, my man. This is good, I love this, you know, I always

I always I like to be out of the zone of comfort, because who is the work, my man, the success,

about the I'm sorry, and the How was this first experience and the decision of, to, of fact, to try to go to San Paulo, to Malikuya to train. In Belmont, I'm in the pastoral, I'm really in the comfort, you know, man. I'd want to say of this.

I'd want to be out of my zone of comfort, justly for that I could be focused on my trains. And you see the things happening. Since I came here in San Paulo, I just see a revolution. So my social, it gave a explosion

after that I started to work with the DNS business here in San Paul

and now I'm finishing with a partner with Ryan Fabi I'm very so

a newmuch from tomorrow I'll go up going to go to Vegas for the final

of the event there things that never had happened in my life

were happening now manoeira, we're going to talk about the issue of Faber, this muddances of an business

but talking in a voyage in the United the your plan is to do the next camp with Charles

or even maybe to make and finalize with Cerudo how is that this idea in your head in this

moment? So, for me to go to go to the end I was four

months to last for there was very sacrifante to be long of my

family and And now, finishing with the chute-box, for me, it's a lot, my family is pretty,

can be able to travel with me. And this not mean that I said that I'm from the firewere, yeah,

I finished here a party with a chute-box and I'm going to be here, for the for a year, two years,

even, I, defend the cinturam in a lot of many times. But, but the

R. R.C. R.C. R. R.C. He R. R. R.

R. R. R. R. R. It's a. and I'm, I'm very

grateful for what they did for me. But now I'm in a phase, that I need to have my family at my side, and that they

give the better to my family that they can't do you do that's the balance that you did this time that you passed

in the States both the technical, as a division of career, division of training, personal,

Yeah, standing in the United, it's sensational I'm focused on four months training with Eric Barracinian

in Cerrudo, and the young who were the training that were a training was a super evolution,

I evolved very, so as a loter, as a person and I am very great,

for that I say, I'm very great to these guys. But, but unfortunately,

I have been to be here in Brazil, car, from my family, training here in the chute-box,

and the guys have a training very good, I've been qualified to train there with them, but I don't

discart the possibility to call an R.C. R.C.R. to come to do you, or E. ke is Barcini, I,

I want to have one of two, with me, so. This first experience, there,

not, not in the first days training in the chute-box, but, for, when,

you know, Charles, and seeing the success that he has in the how you think that's

you prepare to evolve to evolve to your future to your next defense, that all the

winner of the winner and Kairka France. Exactly. So, I want to have a

evolution very great especially now training in the same place with Jail

Brogs. I still not have the opportunity to do the training with him

but I've have been much time for this. Now that part

of the family, it's just success, family, these guys, me abrazzar, and we're distanced

and energy positive, taking into to them, we're just in this camiada there, defend many

the UFC in the name of Jesus, man of just I'm just I'm just I'm going to a strong a big of

my family in Belinda to Parer, to the team Ligeredo who is in my academy. There's

many young talent there too, this is the guy, I'm not par, my mom

is there the front the team, and all the chute-box but the heart also in the car but in the busk

in the business, have to go in my zone to concord there is my company, I don't want to be close to her I want to be distant focused on my

streams and it's it's difficult to have a previso when you're going to do not because even roll the with a moreno

in Caragara France but the your your desire is that the my is in the United

is in Abu Dhab of the new, as a local of the conquist the sultural is that the

country, what you will battle to that happen to this this defense in

this general. My big will be bring this event to Brazil

now there will have a FC here and I want to

my battle to be in the one of any any

who can get in front here in behind in

my top would be, maybe special, if he would have if it were in the same event, putting the other the game, not, because, unfortunately he not in the paper,

the champion, but he reconquished the cintourn at the same night. Yeah, car, if not fechary this battle,

they're trying to go to Abu Dhab, it would be the top to have the same card and looting

here in Brazil. My man, he's just to par Brazil, man, he'd be certainly

that would be a nighted a lot of much, much porada. And, And talking of centurons and

all the I interviewed recently the Dimitio Johnson who was the champion of the category that you

dominions and I asked to him he saw he he saw he was able to get the

domain so long when he got with one he said he said he said

he said he said he was he would he would he would be this reinado long

but that of the Lottes with Moreno and all the other he now saw the point he's a how you see

this area you know, you think he he's a little tropeas with a more you recuperer the right,

maybe one that's right right, but he's there's a point of a that you have made to know the

he may have to dispute the centuron you think he's the guy that you are the guy who will get to

equalar or then maybe to the number of he could do you do do you

do you I think he is a bad I'm a guy I'm a man I'm not per full of my focus

and is he can't be easy not it's easy to get the not it not will not be

not sure not this category I'm I just want to be focused I just

I just want I'm I'm this this my piece

that's my always always it can't can't be sure you can't

I'm sure that I'm going to be 100% focused and ready to bring to any one to defend the I think it I think it

could maybe maybe to make to make sure to make the same ambition to get more

the centuron the cinturon that's always a thing that's a thing, so as so as

the more you can't make you get a success in the person you're going to be back to it's athwart of

it too, there's also. There's a lot. We're, like, we're a battle important. Demetri Jones is a guy who always

always has been a little, man, he's a man who's very bad, so it's easy to get 57 kilos, difficult for me

that's the more than he, quite the double, right? And have to have to be 506, 7,000,

is very pegated, so, so, I have to be focused on this period of this period,

to be sacrifice, you know? This plan of, possibly, to sub-to-subes of a piece. You think

that's the next to happen to happen? You picked a Gorenzo, defeated the citron, pego, the pretext, defends the citron, just, no, be it. Before two defenses, you just can't be able to see this new title, to sub-d-categoria, maybe, maybe, yeah. I don't know you to say, I've

have you, I've been a day-one, you know, I don't know when. This day, just, God, you know? I don't know, while I have a success in this category is 157

kilos, and if there someone to bathe in front with me, can't have certain that I will be

not be I'm going to see if you see you know, he was on Twitter disaffying, there's someone

to be a one to try to and it was difficult to get a adversary and he

said to the name that you that that would be a lot would be a lot

interesting. It's a, a possibility, not now category against a

Peterian or not? You think to go to sub to get to get to get to get

to get to the center. The problem is he's not a game there's a derrothed and I'm

even I'm trying to he was to get a car to get a person to he didn't a result

very much and I as a I don't want to ask a guy this who perdeer

I, I, I, I, I I'm going to be able to challenge the champion of the same, you know, so you can't have certain, I want to go up and direct through the centurion. You think

vermonious and the defeat his role to do you? Because he is a guy that, if par to observe, he is very better than the

audio-mahel it's just just to make the where he pecker much, train more J-Gi-Sept- and then-o? And the stern

as a champion he impression, or you think it's a question of time to him to say this post? I have this this, this is a question

to time for he to lose this post. There's the guys much better than he. If he'd be able to be front of Josealdo, he'll have

caught him in this conversation of him to get to see the J.D., even to be the Zeldo now is

now is escalated to confront the Merab de Valle Ville. You think that the Contrary the Steyling out of the champion or

neither he passes? Contra the DJ I think very difficult DJ is a guy a guy much more more technical than he, understand,

it's a much more strategic and he's a certain he'd get this a centuron for the DJ who you

think you will be the champion pes-gall in the moment that you subed category?

With I think D.Laschal this guy is a guy that I observe much

he, very strategic, very intelligent, the hour that he lot to the centurion, he will get this central again. Enquot this

not roll, you are in this big league to do you to make a great lute in the Pemusk is to have the last time

the last time the last time, you said, you said, you have been bringing attention to various luthers the category,

the Maneu Kapp you called to be ingrat for, for, for, to say that he could

gain more money to go to the person. The Brano Morano basically

said to make the foot, he said, and he didn't get to get to

whether you should be this kind of this postura of the athletes of

your division after the declarations that you do? So, Breno

Morano is a person a person, it's better to be

more to be a little that he is a racist for me

not merit attention I don't no what there

for me no exists. And a NELCAP is another that's there's a

there's like to get to get a lot to get to get a lot. And if they don't go the money,

I think I think I want to but I want to get for this to receive a

good a bolsa good. And you think it's a much you have now

Ryan Faber as you you have as the manager the

manager of Valleet dismay during many years in your career

David, you've you said from the general fight to go to the FAC to go to the Fiber

to your side, not normally not only not only not so the Fiber but the

agency of his business, as your company from here so my focus

always was numbers you know and I moved to manage just the way

in the business in bused that me would be a number numbers know,

and the Faber is a guy who I have a certain he's a guy who has a

contact there in the company of the Dana, is a person, he's a

American, more, he knows, know, knows, knows how it's, know,

and I have to certain that this guy will be very to be

a lot, to him, in a conversation with he said, but the numbers were not

exist, I, I, I, as, as a lotator also I've already that the numbers

that I loted not are existing the guys who look for the centurion a lot in the car's in 500, defend in the house of 600

and my numbers never say it's from 200 to 200, from this last one you got a 200 in the last

last last last last one I gained 100 but really is a value for a champion of

the FC is a a word that is a It's a very much more than this. You know, but you're just with the event, right? Total, very gregonious.

I looked for 100, I don't know if it was 100, but 100 or 100 more 50? Some of a thing, I, I know that was very low, the buss. You know, a part of the desperoespeer to me to look at the centuron, but even as, to to look at the centuron, I know that it's a

a bollsa good, you know? The guy, to look at the centuron. And you, you think, Faber, given the experience that he had

as a loter, the guy was the most the main the story between the levinos

there's there's things were lots important, and also in these years,

he, as the other as a person, you think, and the good

relationship that he has to the good, it's maybe the first

past in this this way, to just just in your next

a lot, he will this value that that's that's that's

that's a point of 100? Without nobred of doubts guys, without

I've brought in a evolution very good to be in my defense of the

center of you can see the question with a person who was someone who

was in time? It's in relation to this rompment the well,

the Valid simply segue the life and I go

my man I'm I I I thank you for all for all the he did for me

I I don't I did any ungratidown with him and I'm sure that he never

fall in this of me even because I'm a guy who always I'm a I'm

I'm a company he worked for me and I always looked there for what he finished

for me so I always I'm he's always he can't he can't he can't

he can't I'm going to say this work with he without nothing to him. The lances of

the money was the catalyzado for this end of this thing of this thing was a lot of

a lot of something that you felt about a more thing. It's more of a disgast we're a we're just

to understand much with he, there was a fault of respect in some of my last

the last and something I didn't more, that I didn't more that this me

to me, you know, and I preferer that he would like he would be to get him to get a

way to get a peace. When you say, when you say what was what was what was

a discussion there, especially, it's a question of, let's just think here to not

say a badsheer, no at the time the time, the time, you can't

say but we always, car, I, He always has always I created disconfiances of him, you know?

I don't have any prova, even going to what, but, I'll know, he's been a guy that I don't confere in more. And this is really too, when you don't confia more in someone, to not be massacred, to not

happen to be, nothing serious. We prefer to be, immediate. And in this relation, you do you think, you're in this relationship? There were things that you could have been had been a relationship or maybe have a relation

or not? You think you did what you did do you should have done in the years of the pastelia? Really, I did what I did

what was my at the approach, man. Simply it was, it was a go-d-d-d-gothed

the last we've been a lot of a lot, we just got to we talked to he personally, that post-lutah, I would say

of him, you know, would terminate this work, our, partnership, that would not dare you just would continue my life, so I'd just keep in my life, so he's a mended to my brother,

and my brother is very with him, and I also me me meethe, and I want to see just my, car, I want to see the mine, and in the best of me.

And just for we just to finish, car, now, this life new in San Paul, training with Charles of Brontz? How is that how was this first experience

of, you know, to train with a guy always exalted, you know, the guy has a trocation really good good, there's the jubis-to-

and how are the first experiences in the tatam with him? To tell you, I don't have this training with Charles.

I trained the first time. I, I took, there, some, two in the joint,

in the training, I, I, I'm, I'm two two months just a parted,

to make the job and we to operate. And just conversed. We're very, we're talking about

the processes that makes the guy with the health in day, you know, recuperate the lesones,

baccana, and I'm a man of the last time of the last the last God, is better than

God, but I'm sure that we can we can we can't train together, we can't

have more that we can't talk, that we can't more, I'm going to

Vegas now, this last this event that will have been and there we'll be together, we'll try idea if they want to be

so to finish this expectation, like you said, you're trying to mark this lot of him with Mahathev and Abu Dhab he, he's trying to push

to Brazil, but analyzing the the lute in the vacuum, no importance where it happens, are two guys are excellent

luttators, how you can you know you analyze this confronts of the stilus car, the marachep with that

characteristic there, that Rabebe that name school, bata, to put it to back to be

to amassar and by the other side, he's a way better than a way of the juggist much much more

for the same or he's in the point in the position he's always he's always he's been to be

to be a look to see this confront between the two I want to I want to I'm really I'm a juggish

of him in day to fight with this guy the trocation of sure he's but if

the mackatch me to put back back there I want to see the bribolando with him

as always he does in the battles of his. And I want that he finalizes this russ, I want, I want that he honor the

the blood of the and bring this signorah to come to this centurion to finalize, he brings the Rabib

to the back the abhorhorri Yeah, with certain, the russes are very

very brothers when bat in one one, the other want to learn, and this

will be a good, this will be a good. And the Charles of the Broncos is the

guy to to Rabib, one thing that nobody can't do do you know,

he's the he's the guy. He has a jiu-jits very good, he's very he's very

he's really but the Charles there's a moment of Charles right, it's the moment of the

guy, and when the moment of the man, don't doves that all he can't

happen to he's over to get to to quebrer. With thank you much for your time

again again. always a pleasure to talk with you. I'm going to go ahead of the next few passes, the Davison 2.0, training with Charles of Prongs. Now. No, space of the career,

I'mon. Thank you, and good sort in this next process. Negotiation, to be with a big up. Thank you.

A man. A great-abrasse. And in the session Fight Week, with interviews more short and focused specifically in the next

days, I'll conversed now with Kayo Borrallio who enfented a headreed to the Pesombedo in Las Vegas. How we're going to be the expectative

to go out Yeah, you know, it's going to be You know, it's a moral doing a common event Now, now in the second

Lott is again a common event How many is the question about this lot there, Cary? Who can be much a lot of I think, I'm

I think, I'm living my son, so and the expectations are the better possible, car,

it was, I think this was the the last camp in the last last year against

the russus there, I've had some serious in the camping, 25 days of the lot, I'm actually

I'm sure you. I'm sure you get a lot of fey, but we got to get a time. But I feel now the expectative

is of a knockout and finalization, I think it's a repeation of cycle so I believe in this so my first little lot I'm

contend, I came back when I'm not convincing and not gained the contract, came in the second

with a focus in convincing and knockoutia and do the same thing I'm going to make sure happened in the UFC, I've

I've beence, but it's like that there little joelied that's kind of a lot of that's a little opportunity to show

that I'm going to make out of the future, so I'm with a good hand on him, he's got some some breaches there in

the play, and also I'm going explore this too, so I'm going to what was the last year? How was it you limited to

so, so much time in the battle? Caram! P, no, In fact, 25 days for the for the Lutta, more or less, I think 24 days. I had a lesion in the lombar,

that inflamed very very hard. I passed 10 or 12 days without, without trying to trainer and I was in a month without getting not sated,

nor per, just could be to be taken to be taken to carticoid, and then I'm going to do a more than a a lot of therapy, I did an application

of ozone, cellar tronco, all my Alcance to get to get to the we had said

I'm going to not going to get a lot but I'm there's a day before we have said the time to ask you

get a better I said let's try, man, let's try, we're trying and then it did all right

and then you know, I'm going to tell you not me limit to nothing I don't I'm really after after

it's been a little bit more my team my team of physiropo, my team of my team did a job

incredible, and it was really really to recover well, I don't have any type of limitation,

but it's not a lot of because I'm going to be in 15 days without a little bit of the lot,

so it was me too much that's a thing, a matter, a part of the thing is a better than,

you're a better, you're not to enter without, 100%, imagine that you

mentally, it can't imagine, I'm, imagine that all the time, the moment of the time,

you know, this, whatever, but when you get back-a-bake-in in a lot, it's a per p'clock. Yeah, in fact, I think that's the worst, I think that's the pure thing, car, if you're, like,

I'm going to be able to look at, whether or not? Is it, poor, will be better than the will? This, these, doubts, I think, is one of the things

that I'm more of the things that I'm more, so, you know, so, it's difficult, but I'm, I'm getting, I've got, I've got many lesions,

so, not, not are the first the lesions that I've I've seen much, but even so, it's been having a

little, that's been in the way of getting a lot of feeling, it's a situation really, man,

that's a real that's a real-luta is tense. Imagine. And for you said, the last of

the knee-ahed, you know, that you got to sat down on the little,

you know, the you said, you said, he said, he said, and then, it's not,

it's in- come-and- you can't because you can't be the it's indisputable and but it's

it's not a disfeasho definitive for the luther yeah in fact no it's not it's

not it's not it's I know my quality and I know the level of the guy

that I gained and I know what I did in the I domineed the man of high level I dominated

the entire I was like the man it was the car not were I'm just

I'm just I'm just to show to Dan White that I can't finalize and knock out of the the lot of the lutas, that I don't will be doing all right in the final to straggar, so it's more an incommode, but more a want to show to him

that he contracted the guy right to do the company and that will gain very money with the company also. And, you know, your next adversary is more a guy much d'clock a lot of our front, you know, a guy that also came the Contender,

got the Robocop in a decision divided a little contested Robocop reclop reclars who got him, how do you know, how do you know, how do you know, yeah,

in fact, because it's a guy who is a big dimensional, he's a guy who has a box, he's not

going to enter in a kett, he will try to get jiu-s, he will try to get the time

entire, so it's a unidimensional, casas much with my game, so façed to Jiuits,

everyone knew what I did with a guy who is a champion the Worldial of Sambo and I dominated him in the game of his game. So I have this arm

in the manga to put him to the show, to try to do the lance of finalization, apesad of his move very well, it's difficult to put him to the but I have some things well trained about him. But I'll tell you that in real, I want to show to him that I

have a striking too, to frustra him, I think, to show him that the only place that he could me gain and that to show me that not be easy

and that I have so strike as as he and it's a chave of the that's a very important

like that's he's a he did go out of the last you're going to be back in the little bit of

I've got to get a rapsed in him and I've seen in the eyes of the feeling the

time when we go to try a porrada to get a time to get to the roundes and who can

find this finalize this lot if when you when you when you're a guy who defined you

a little dimensional, that's only the trocaation, that's sego in the ground and and you have this alternative

to be used to get a lot aghrahras and be able to limit the guy, because he will be able to

if he would be front a Poitan he could be able to get a procaation because it's

impossible pootan to try he put down but if you have this alternative to put him

back back he will be able to he will be sold in but you have to be to be taken to because he can't be

put to be a shot and you know, I think it's that's a good one way, it's a little advantage, with certain, but

in real, if you see my last my last one, I think, the first of the container that I

enter and a double leg. Any one I tried to put the car to back. Even the Rousseo

who tried to make to make a question, I did a conversion, I don't try I don't know how it's his head

of his tuesday, but he still not not, not, no, and no, a lot of mine, I was trying

to put up back to the because it's not so I'm in my career, but I'm in the strategy of back to get to

back back. So he's, I think, I think he will sort to see, man, I think he will do a

good soltable, he's a great, he did a jihits, very strong, and he sold well, and he wanted to,

I'm preparing some, I'm preparing some some things in-per, that he will think I will maybe put a

but I'm with a hand very afyada for him. And how you think that's a victory of fact?

You think you prove the point and gain of him in the or eventually you see

bowl, go, go to the chan, and you can, or you can't, or he

bat? Yeah, I think, there, two ways to end, the way,

I'm a lot, I said, I'm about a lot of a un'

but I'm imagine it was that's that's this way. I'm I can't

do two two How he not came up. He was kind of a lot-out, but I thought that knockout, then, poor, it would be a story

there's a-oh, da-hora-a-carl. But this Luta here I see it about in two ways. I see it, I'm coming with a cross-drae,

my, of the right-of-the-d-draught, jogging a cross-a-d-d of his-court in the golfs of his. He makes a lot in that shoulder on his-the-d-d-the-dreight

can enter more faster. And I see, too, I see, I'm going to the of the the battle, putting it to be to back, picking the costs and finalizing him to be, you know, because, as a M.M.A. Caryngar, car, the my goal, this quadrille with a quadrille, I just do it from the middle. I don't have been

this thing, so I'm going to be surprised, he'll try and he'll try and try and try to get him, you're trying to the next pass is a main event? Like, after doing two with a mini-evente? You're just to mirro a fight-net to do you

do to make a min-evans? Oh, with certain, I'm excited-in-a- and I'm not, I want to go so to see, you know,

and in the last last I said, I said, but I knew that would be not, obviously, but

I'm going to this lute, I'm going to say, oh, I've done two with a event, you can be

put to my event that you can't be there's a many people who can me assist

and I have a people there are very very strong for behind me. I know that the people want to see a guy who see a man who is

a man who is a little bit more so I'm going to get to get in but I'm going to put it's like I'm there to putt I'm going to

do a man event would be very good. Lutta of five rounds maybe even maybe even even more

with my game that is a game more calculated but a more a a rhythm

like let's say that it that it's that it's it's little,

you know, that's that's a very much or not, so I think five rounds would be perfect

for me. I've got five rounds in field, it was a whole round of a lot of nine in

the manned, so I'm going to be able to be ready to get the hour with the time. We're sure.

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