My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 422 - DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN FINALE/THE LAST OF US SEASON 2 PREMIERE

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Robbie and Clem discuss the season one finale of 'Daredevil: Born Again' as well as the season two premiere of 'The Last of Us' this week! Plus, Robbie gives Dave a bad recommendation and Clem brings back the Mickey voice. #DaredevilBornAgain #TheLastOfUs **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (MI/NJ/PA/WV). Help is available for problem gambling. Call [phone] or visit ccpg.org (CT). 21+. Physically present in CT/MI/NJ/PA/WV only. Void in ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. 1 per new customer. Opt-in req. Min. net loss of $5 on eligible games to earn 100% of net losses back (“Lossback”) for 24 hours following opt-in. Max. $1,000 issued in Casino Credits for select games that are non-withdrawable and expire in 7 days (168 hours). Terms: casino.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 4/27/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and a very special Daredevil finale, Last of Us premiere edition of My Mom's Basement. Last week I said it's an extravaganza, Clem it is an extravaganza. it's an extravaganza. Clement is an extravaganza. An extremely very special extravaganza version. We're just trying to say it's like comics. Honestly, we're just slapping giant sized, you know, annual. We're just slapping these words on it, hoping it grabs your attention and you stick around with us because we got a lot of good stuff to get into this week. A lot of good television to break down. I'm excited to talk about all of it. We'll do a little basement keeping up front as we always do

Apologies, no Marvel rivals stream this week I did a WWE 2k25 stream with Brandon Walker and the mostly sports gang we simulated matches and we commentated them on You know stream together. They were in Chicago. We were in New York. We had this giant war games match to end it all. Two rings, all in a steel cage. It's on the Viva La Stool channel. Very good. And Clem and I were also in a draft on the dog walk this week,

also wrestling themed, of course, WrestleMania this weekend. So it makes sense. We're doing a lot of wrestling stuff. But that dog walk draft was very fun. It's just a trip down memory lane to the attitude era essentially dude I left that draft just like my my cheeks hurt from smiling and I even hit up one of my buddies who's a Wrestling like it would like watch wrestling when I did back in the day I was like, dude, you just gotta listen to this

Like it's just nostalgic to hear some names and some stories that you haven't thought about in years and it really does. It's just the boys talking wrestling and it's a it's a it's a basement thing and then when I woke up on when did that come out Tuesday and I was already getting like people like tweeting to like, I mean, you know, this better than anybody at Barstool, right? It's like, you could just talk rasslin forever. You Brandon Walker, all those guys. So it's just, it's a very nostalgic draft. Tag teams is the theme and I'm not a tag team guy, but there is a lot of stuff just talking tag team team to talk about for hours and have a ball with. You say you're not a tag team guy. You got a lot of respect with some of your picks.

I saw the comments. I saw their applause. People really liked your draft. Well, they liked my draft and then that bonehead KFC was going on my first pick without spoiling anything. Yeah, and I was like, you know what? Like maybe he, because again, my pick I didn't like as much as the two before me. So I understand where he was coming from in terms of doesn't have the luster but I'm like they're still pretty fucking good right and I again I think this is a little after I stopped watching is when they really blew up and yeah. Needless to say Kevin is taking heat from the internet yet again. Yes we also hosted the run down today as this comes out it'll be Wednesday with

the Nate dog and it's not as basement centric I feel like topic wise at least as the last few ones we've hosted where we had like the Minecraft movie to talk about and chicken jockeys and all that kind of stuff this one we put the sports in Barstool sports yeah so this I will not recommend you guys to watch do not watch the run no it was fun one it was it was a fun one and Bob funny you mentioned that I actually saw minecraft with my kids oh you did that people go nuts for the chicken jockey people went nuts and my my kids I said oh did you guys hear about chicken jockey they go what is that everyone

talks about chicken jockey and I don't know what it is and they've played minecraft for a while so they know it. There was a sign saying like, if people are riding during the Minecraft moving, you trash it, you're getting kicked out. Just letting everyone know. Respect. I have to say this. I like the movie was whatever.

It's a kid's movie. Like I'm not gonna give a serious review about it. It was just so much fun. Kids were clapping. They were getting fired up. The whole movie, they're just cheering along. whenever they saw a character or a part of the game that they love. It was just AJ was in his seat. You'd think he was at like a baseball game. He was clapping so much. It was awesome. So if you have kids like

it's really not a great fun movie for the adults, but it's good enough. And they have a couple like nods and wings. There's some old school gaming stuff in there as well. And Mamoa and Jack Black you would decent enough job But it was it was a fun time. You know, I have to admit I it seems awesome Yeah, it's like a little kid Avengers endgame for some gas. Yes. Exactly going nuts for all the different lines I went to a concert last night with Fidel Berg and as it was Knox actually who's been on my mom's basement So if you've listened to that interview, you know Knox and he's been on the yak. He's been on mostly sports He's kind of like a friend of parcel at this point

He's tuning his guitar and he goes ah someone shout out a random question and someone from the crowd goes Who's your favorite Minecraft character? He goes chicken jockey in the fucking crowd Wild it was good But you're saying maybe you wouldn't recommend the Minecraft movie to adults. Well, we could talk about recommendations, Clem, because my ass is in the jackpot. I see you wearing the Mets shirt there. My ass is in the jackpot now. Because Dave hated a recommendation I gave him. I went to UFC with Dave in Miami. We had a great time. We were on screen together. We're laughing. We're yucking it up. I think he we had a great time. We were on screen together. We're laughing.

We're yucking it up. I think he would even say great time. But I think it's all now tainted because at one point throughout the night, he was like, Oh, you watching any recent, you watching anything good or we, we got to talking about television. And I said, Oh yeah, I liked the studio new Seth Rogan show. It's like him as a studio head. I talked about it last week.

It was one of my recommendations. It wasn't like I went out of my way to give him this recommendation, Clem. It wasn't like I texted him. That would be one thing I texted him. I would never call him for a TV show recommendation, but you know what I mean? We were together for like eight hours and television came up. So then he tweeted the other night, like, I don't know who recommended this. I'm holding you accountable essentially. And then he texted me and Jeff and said, who recommended this to me? And I was like, Oh, no. I was like, that was me boss.

Luckily Jeff saw from the blow. Cause he was like, hand up. I did too. When we were at mini golf. So it was kind of, he, he jumped in that hole with me. Shout out Jeff D. Lowe. Wow.

I would not have thought Jeff, I thought Jeff would just be like, let the grenade go off on Robbie, not me. Shout out Jeff D. Lowe. Wow. I would not have thought Jeff. I thought Jeff would just be like, let the grenade go off on Robbie, not me. Shout out to Jeff for jumping on him after you had already been blown to pieces. Pull yourself to bits. I wouldn't just let that thread die. But but here's where it doesn't die. Wish it died there. Clem. I get a text last night, 7.01 PM right before I'm about to go out to this concert. I'm in a good mood We're grabbing drinks beforehand Who recommended black bag? That's another movie. I recommended him this weekend

And I really like black bag like I would like pretty much stand by that So I sent him just the emoji and up me and he said stand by it I'm about to watch. And I was like, Oh no. Like what do I say to that? At this point? I like, I felt like I, I love the studio. I know it's maybe not the most Dave show. I do think black bag is more up Dave's alley, but I'm like, Oh no. Then Jeff's once again, shout out Jeff below. He goes, I liked it as well. Worth a a watch so he doubles down on my recommendation So then I I get a little scared and I said I might have the recommendation now

But it's not dune, but I found it very enjoyable and he said okay I'm hoping it's good and I didn't hear back from him all night So I was like, oh no, did he fall asleep during it? That would be a bad sign there for the movie Whatever. I've been stressing it but I was like, I no, did he fall asleep during it? That would be a bad sign for the movie, whatever. I've been stressing it, but I was like, I don't wanna text him. Jeff texted me today and was like, I talked to Dave, cause we recorded the dozen

or whatever before we recorded it. I said, what'd you think? And he said, I liked it. He said, it's a solid watch, short. He didn't love it, but he liked it. So I think maybe the seatbelt sign could go off again. I don't know. Ass out of the jackpot.

I'd avoid unsolicited recommendations for a good while at this point. Oh, maybe forever. But you have to be true to yourself. You've been one of Dave's go-to guys for this kind of stuff. I know what it's like to have something hanging out with the boss man just lingering in the air, and you don't know which way it's going to go. You're also his Disney guy.

You're a Star Wars guy. So Dave's not going to shake you up for good. One bad recommendation will not ruin your entire reputation in his eyes. I will say, I was ready to give the studio a shot. I will not be giving the studio a shot now just because I was in his comments and a lot of people were cosigning saying not very good. I'd still consider you a good recommender, but to start something new, I still have to finish. Robbie, you have to understand it's

baseball season. I have two episodes of paradise. That's all I've done. Yeah. Three weeks. I've got to, you got to be real selective. Yeah. So I all I've done. It's been three weeks I've gotten two episodes down. You gotta be real selective, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's basically, this has to be a hit. During that dozen episode, by the way, a little spoiler, it's not a spoiler. The bear came up and he goes, that show's terrible. I know. Well, that's the other thing is like he fucking hates the bear. I'm sure that we both love and it's like, it's so hard to predict what he's gonna like and what he's gonna hate.

It's like, I mean, I wouldn't have predicted before the Dune movies came out that he was gonna become a massive Dune fan. He likes Dune more than he likes Star Wars. Like that that's something I never would have predicted out of Dave. Maybe I should have seen it coming with the Star Wars stuff but it's just unpredictable. So generally yeah the rule of thumb is like avoid recommendations unless you know you got a hit. Like uh the Penguin was one I went out of my way to say, hey, watch The Penguin. Of course he loved it. But yeah, like maybe I shouldn't have done it for the studio.

Do you, would you reach out unsolicited and say give Daredevil a shot after it's been all done now? No, just because, and I thought the show was great. Like, well, we'll talk about the G word. Be careful with that G word. We'll get. Like, well, we'll talk about the G word. Be careful with that G word. We'll get to the G word. We'll get to the G word. But there's so much, I feel like there's a lot of stuff

you gotta know going in. Maybe not you gotta know, but like, there's, I mean, the finale itself had a lot of callbacks and references and stuff like that. I don't know if someone that has never seen Daredevil and Dave likes the Marvel universe But isn't die-hard watching every single project they put out. I don't know how they would take it I I would hope they would like it. I would hope they would think it's a fucking great show, but I don't know Yeah, I think again we compare it to penguin

I'd say you know like I would recommend it so that question my answer would be yes I would go out of my way to recommend it to maybe everyone on the planet except for Dave so it's very specifically skewed you know like right now like I said I have the recommendation gifts right now I'm like I don't know what to recommend I wouldn't recommend Empire Strikes Back tomorrow I'm like I don't know I don't you might not. Then again, Dave loves the sequel trilogy. So it's like you figure out his day. It's impossible. Yeah.

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I mentioned and there's very few people that I would like go see over a daredevil finale Knox is on the list because Knox is a true nerd. He's got a Loki tattoo. We were backstage talking about Marvel rivals He's like, oh yeah, dude. I got to get on season 2 we got to play together I was like dude, I'll embarrass myself playing with you. He's like a legit gamer traveling with a monitor. Dude, he went on stage with a Marvel sticker on his guitar, just an unabashed nerd. So I assume he was probably doing the same thing I was after the show and frigging cozying up with some popcorn, watching a daredevil. Straight to hell was the finale name, which as soon as I saw that 59 minutes, I was like, I would have preferred an hour, but 59. All right, I'll let it slide. It's like in the UFC, if you're not in a title fight, you could be one pound away from making weight. And they're like, all right, you're

all right. I let it slide with that. But straight to hell, I got to tell you, when I read that out loud, for some reason, my brain goes to the straight to jail meme from Parks and Rec of Fred Armisen. And I want to just say dare devil straight to hell believe it or not straight to hell I was thinking you're gonna go JR straight to hell he's done some you do pretty good JR you've been doing JR recently it's like yeah he's come back into my life but again this is like 25 years old this uh JR impersonation but he has been making an appearance in the basement a whole lot lately shout out JR we gotta get some barbecue sauce we this is like 25 years old. This uh JR impersonation but he has

been making an appearance in the basement a whole lot lately shout out JR. We gotta get some barbecue sauce. We gotta get some of that JR's barbecue. You know, I think he does some beef jerky too. Maybe we'll do a sample one day. Um alright. So

the daredevil finale. Do you wanna do overall thoughts on it kind of broad stroke before we kind of get into the nitty gritty. Do you wanna just get into the nitty gritty? Do you want to just get into the nitty gritty? What do you think? Uh, yeah, we could do some broad broad broad strokes. I'm kind of thinking, do we want to have the G conversation right now? Let's start with the G conversation. Get it out of the way. Let's not make the people wait any longer. So we've been talking about the G conversation. And if you don't know what we're referencing, we had this conversation about the words good and great becoming diminished by people flippantly using them, I would say, or maybe just great being. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People, we're all trying to find the person who did this, you know? It is people know because I always I've it's one of my

like stupid pet pee I've it's one of my like stupid pet peeves where it's like, oh, Jamal Crawford is a great basketball player. It's like I love Jamal Crawford. He's fun, entertaining, good basketball player and it's like one of

those things where great is Nicole Jokic and you know, LeBron James. I think good, great, very good. The very good has gotten lost in this world of ours, you know, okay. Well, well, that's a great point because I was watching Daredevil born again, not only just the finale, but the entire series kind of on great watch, you know, we're on great watch now. We're looking out

for him penguin. We said great show. Absolutely great. So Daredevil born again. I've been loving it. I would say this is number two for me in MCU shows right behind Loki like right behind Loki. Loki was just personally better for me. But I was watching it and as I was watching it I was saying okay, if the penguin is the bar for great because you know my scales always curved. I think everything's fucking great. But if the penguins the bar for great, I would say this was very good right under great right on because I don't think this was

as good as the penguin and and maybe you're saying apples to oranges he can't compare those two things I thought this was like I would describe this series this season as great I would describe this finale is great I loved it it's right up my alley but I know it's It's right up my alley. But I know it's quite literally right up my alley. Like I know that it's designed for me and it's just like, what do they call slot for the pigs? It's my slop. I fucking I'll eat it all up. You know, where would you put it? Would you agree with the very good or close to great? I'd say I'd say very good. It's fair. I think it's

when you're I guess if you're going to also take in that the one review that came in, it's like the penguin if you're going to say that's the great level, it's not on that tier, right? You can have your ST or AT or BT or whatever. I'd say

it's probably better than good. So yeah, I think very good works. I also am realizing the L words with you too love and like like but the thing is Robbie loves a lot of things. He goes in with his heart open and he has plenty of room, let it all in. And it's like, I liked it, I liked it.

And then there's loved it, right? So I liked this, I liked this a lot. And I don't know if I'd say, I guess I loved it. It's also when you're comparing Marvel shows, it's like better than everything, but Loki, it's like not a high bar. It's like being the smartest person at Barstool, right? Dude, if WandaVision just stuck the landing,

we would look at that show so differently. Cause when I look back, and even people have been posting clips recently, and like I'd forgotten about the moment where Wanda and Vision get into an argument and she just fucking hits credits on the show. And she like tries to hit like a, she tries to wrap it up in like a nice Brady Bunch way and walks out of the room and he walks back in and then it snaps

Back out like it had so many moments where we were like, oh fuck even the first episode where the girls choking it there The guy was choking at dinner and you see start snapping out of reality The scene where she just says no and it all flashes back like if they just stuck the landing and didn't go for that weird Whatever they had boner CGI mess if they didn't do that stuff. God I honestly, whatever I say something like Loki is the best and then everything that's best and the rest I always my head immediately goes idiot Don't forget about WandaVision, but it was like new It was the first one and it didn't stick the landing. However, it was it almost it And I don't I don't think it's to the same extent

But it's it was almost like true detective season one, which is a great show Legitimately and the one was a great shit show But like we everyone created a better version of the show and I do remember the disappointment when the finale ran. It's like, wait, that's, that's just all it is is the yellow King carcass is just that weird thing. Yeah. And this deck definitely suffered the Mephisto stuff, all this stuff, the boner stuff. But in the end, like I think if I rewatched it, which I maybe I'll do at some point, like

just like jump around, I'm not going to just watch the whole thing. I could be like, holy shit,. This this is the number two right behind Peak it could be as good as the best stuff and the other shows. I thought Hawkeye was really good. I would say I thought Moon Knight had really good moments and it kind of I wish Moon Knight was a little shorter I think it was like maybe six episodes I think if they would have done four and made it more fucking MCU's Batman gritty dark Oscar Isaac was great and that costume was great. I actually hope we see obviously this sets up for maybe more heroes coming into New York City, I think in the comics moon night is like a New York City hero

I think he drives a New York City taxi So I would like to kind of see Oscar Isaac chop it up with John Bernthal and Charlie Cox. Like that would be a hell of a trio. I think if the show, if the content, the shows, the movies, whatever, if they put it wherever they think it should go instead of being like, hey, the new CEO said we have to make this many TV shows.

We need this many episodes. I think, and I think that's kind of where we are now. I think everything will be allowed to breathe and be in the right, you know length or whatever it may be so But in the end daredevil which coming back to this like I enjoyed it And this is the thing you also just like the full binge into this. So this was writing your we also you can Yeah, I was really fired up. Yeah. Yeah, let it out Bob. I'm in a different zone I didn't even really,

I didn't love Daredevil in the comic books. I didn't hate him, but I never went out of my way to find it. If Daredevil was joining Spider-Man or something, I'd be like, oh, this is a nice little team up. I'm not buying Daredevil stuff on its own. I hope I don't offend Jose if he ever hears that. You might, you fucking might.

I saw Jose in Miami too. Shout out Jose, he's the best. Alright, let's get into the actual episode, the actual nitty gritty, the meat and potatoes. We get to see the moment where Vanessa puts a hit on Foggy Nelson to kick off the episode. Dark, dark stuff. The way she's talking to Dex, you could tell he's fucking out of it and he's kind of like all messed up. Yeah, and we know Red Hook, again, something's going on in Red Hook and we know it's related to that.

He's about to uncover something. And we get a quick mention of Mayor Fisk's acquittal. She's like, oh yeah, and then it's part of the reason why he's out of prison now. It was like never addressed and then they waited for the finale. They were like, don't worry about it. That was really good. Like just the whole setup with the scene and the medicine going

around and the way he was acting. That was that was very cool. Again, the directors like they make it feel like it's a step up the last two episodes one into another. It feels a little MCU cinematic even. Like it feels very, when they do the blackout, and I love a blackout storyline in anything, it's like such a classic trope you can go back to. Even in comedy, you could go into blackout stuff. Summer of Bart, did they do a blackout and that was a rear window or Entourage

when they have the fucking blackout when Aquaman comes out. But I love it in action stuff. I love it in comedy stuff. The way they shot that and the lights going out over the entire city and you could still see like the grid of lights of cars or whatever, headlights, rear lights, I thought that was awesome. Yeah, the blackout in New York City, I remember like probably now that's like 10, 15 years ago,

but that was like one, 15 years ago, but that was like one of the greatest moments everyone, you know, everyone just ended up having fun, and like everyone just got loaded, because everyone, all the beer was gonna like, not melt, but like go bad or something, and everyone's like, let's just fuck up. Essentially melt.

Yeah, exactly. It was, it's one of those, it was one of those, I feel like there was a blackout today. I feel like people's minds are in a different place. It would probably just lead to utter carnage. The purge, yeah. Yeah, purge. It would probably just lead to utter carnage the purge. Yeah Basically what Kingpin wanted to happen here like with the chaos in the city, so he is like weeding out the rider dies as well He puts a hit on Matt Murdoch via buck and I kind of like appreciated

This scene just because the reasoning behind it like in a scummy way made sense for him to be like Oh, yeah If he dies as a vigilante tried to kill me like it'd be a great two birds one stone moment We get rid of Matt Murdoch. We get great publicity. He could go down a hero like that was good shit It's good good writing on this. I Love anyone that signs a two birds one stone just in life if If you're like, oh, my wife has to get. My wife. My wife.

She had to get her oil changed and she wanted to take AJ to a car wash cause he loves car wash. I mean, I, all kids love going through a car wash. And she's like, I just passed this car wash I've never been to. And it says free car, oh, got the thumbs up. You get a free car wash with an oil change.

And I'm like, oh oh my god that's the greatest thing ever. So Kingpin essentially did that with like human life or at least he was looking to and uh like jumping ahead a little bit but when Buck is going on that killing me softly and it's slowly starting the song and then by the time he's all he's trying to get it done it's you know full bore. That was cinema right there my friends. Cinema the music in this episode was great too. I'm not even a Radiohead fan but the Radiohead everything is in its place or everything in its right place. I don't know what the exact name of that song is. The way they ended it with that felt very like The Batman and ending with

Nirvana. It was fucking dark and brooding and gritty and you're like what is the next phase of the city even look like? Shout out to the directors I assume they also had a big say on music because it felt like their episodes they got the music budget on there. Yeah I feel like Disney with the mouse opened the purse strings a little. Doubling down being like we're doing Killin Me Softly in this episode and we're doing Radiohead was like oh okay. I don't care what it costs you're gonna make this shit sound good I look at you motherfuckers I had it once you said I brought JR back I'm like I'm gonna bring Mickey back at some point BULGAR MICKEY I saw the opening

The bingo card if you got that on the bingo card I also I wanted to make a statement here and I don't know if it fits in later, so I'm just gonna say it now I've had enough of Heather's bullshit. I just had oh my god. I'm with you. I'm with you and and I get it She's blind to you It's like yeah I know we know more than Heather and that's why it all makes sense to us and it doesn't to her. But like, come on, you can't tell fucking Wilson Fisk is a bad guy. You do therapy with him.

You've heard what Vanessa says about him. You have to ask Vanessa if she's like fucking safe in the relationship and you're still going to sign up for his fucking whatever deputy mental health, whatever, at the end of the episode when he pulls her aside. Are you kidding me Heather? like It would be like OJ shrink back in the day and it's like yeah, he got acquitted He's not a good guy though. No and Listen like it is one of those things where we know more like you said

It's like can we can you just trust Matt that he fucking knows what he's talking about a little? Bit other than I know why doesn't he trust him. I'm not really in Try like Heather a lot I'm not gonna say the other stuff. I like about it, so I don't get bombed But I I've just had enough of her shit I have a couple I I feel like the dad's gonna come out of me once again for the last you got a couple more I got some more shaking my So the commissioners doing what he can with Sheila he pulls her aside in a private room when he's like

What the fuck is he talking about in there? Like basically trying to form a mutiny Is that what they call it when you overthrow somebody that's a mutiny, right? Form a fucking mutiny right that down I think so. He's kind of form of fucking mutiny. Write that down kids You learn something new every day mutinies It's like a rising up more so because I feel like it would be if like someone in the mayor's cabinet or whatever You want to call true trying to turn in the taser face committed a mutiny Such a good line But you know as soon as you

see both these people talking together that they're both cooked like cooked cooked like Frank the Tank ribs they fucking charred what the fuck I was gonna say we should have JR get JR's reaction to the chart up and now that came full circle as well I mean we called that on both of them essentially. We're like, either they're gonna just be dragged along for a little while longer, but they're both disposable in fist size. Yeah.

Frank, how about this? So, Mac goes back to his apartment. He escapes the hit attempt in the hospital. Very cool seeing the way of shots, cinema, whatever. He goes right back to his apartment. What did we think about that? Where it's like, all right, listen, I get he's blind and he knows the route back there,

but isn't that the first place you would check for him? Did he know that? Is he welcoming the fight? Bob, I had some questions. Blind in a blackout with chaos and all this stuff going on. I'm just gonna, I'm not even gonna bring this stuff up with the dare Devil stuff. I don't want the daredevil fans to come at me. Mr. Negative Clem who just questions things very normal Mr. Negative may be the villain in the next spider-man. That could be a fucking Halloween costume for you or something

The blackout though is like oh you think the darkness is your ally fucking daredevil's born in it molded by it And he walks in he knows Frank's there already He's like a fresh shave and a haircut and even that one I was like fresh shave. I could buy aftershave How do you know he got his hair cut? Can you smell that too? I thought the same thing Bob if he has that little top powder powder, you know Oh, maybe yeah nothing beats a good that we you you get to smell after you get a fresh haircut So I did think that as well. Maybe some gel. He had the guy put some shit in it. No, Frank doesn't let a guy put shit in his hair.

No way. Do you think Frank lets him put it in and then like watches it out when he goes home because he has to maintain the frank demeanor about him all because like it is listen, you see that I haven't gotten a gel in my hair in a long time, but back when I did have the hair, it did feel nice again. And they do it good. Oh, of course, they do it better than anyone else too. Like you walk out of there, you take a quick picture. I always do the same thing and I'm like,

all right, I'm gonna make my hair look like this, try to do it myself. It'll never look like that ever again. They have like some kind of cheat. They like jailbreak your hair for one day where it looks great and then it never looks like that again. It's like going to a chef to eat and then you try to make the same exact You know the same exact ingredients. It doesn't come out one 100. That's good. Yeah

But Frank looks great in the classic Punisher trench coat. He's got the fucking outfit on He looks like the Punisher in this scene and I love John Bernthal as the Punisher I love the relationship he has with red when they're going back and forth. And it's a serious conversation, obviously, but he's also still cracking jokes. And what are you going to fight him with your bare ass out? Like he's joking about him in the hospital gown and shit. What do you say? Like, what's your new superhero name, like Gown Man or whatever? Good shit by John Bernthal and Charlie Cox. Once again, we get reference to Karen, We find out that Karen was the one who called in a favor and we find out later on, not find out, but we get

reminded that her and Punisher her and Frank. That's what I know was I just put a bunch of why'd you do a Karen? Why'd you call it the favor? Yeah, I don't know. Karen was one of those who said Vanessa is like the way they said it. Henry Hill saying Karen is on that list, right? We can agree on that. Oh yeah. Um Matt and

Punisher team up now when the task force obviously knows where they are and they come in and I like that they cracked the door. Matt was like, don't **** kick in my door. I don't want to wait for renovations. I'm going to crack it for you. Come right in. And they have a super violent scene.

Super awesome. It's just this is what you want out of Daredevil and Punisher kicking ass, fucking stabbing, slit in throats. Lady Fox is on a work meeting. I can't be afforded to say this stuff really loud right now. I can't say it Bob. Stabbing, slit in throats, fucking stepping on motherfuckers necks. But the real violent stuff, you know, they did all that shit and I appreciated it.

Now Matt still didn't want to kill the guy who murdered the white tiger at the end. We see him, he's got the bullet casing, we point him out, this is the fucking guy, he holds it up. He wallops him with the fucking stick as hard as you could ever hit someone in the face He hits this guy in the face with his stick. He still doesn't want to kill and I'm not saying I could I'm not saying I have the fucking brutality to take someone's life But I don't think I would stop Frank like he stopped Frank in that moment I think I would fucking turn the other way and be like I ain't gonna kill you but I also ain't gonna save you Wallop is the perfect word, first of all, for all that.

Like, wallop them. Wallop, absolutely wallop them. I watched it back today, just that one scene, made me laugh, he hits them so hard, the sound effect, it sounds like a metal bat in a baseball, it's great. Okay, so I have to also say this, everyone already knows I never saw the first three seasons of Daredevil. I saw the YouTube recaps and obviously yours. I'm just gonna say

I'm gonna go conspiracy, I'm done with it now. I'm done playing the fucking game, I'm done being the little puppet for Marvel. Matt Murdock's not blind, he's just not blind. We started with the hospital stuff, that was ridiculous, everything about's just not blind. We started with the hospital stuff. That was ridiculous. Everything about that just getting home. The girls, every single one's a ten. Every single one. He doesn't have just the one. That's gotta make sense. Then when he picks up the bullet out of all the bullets that are on the ground, he's like, that's odd. Like you get the dog sent. I feel the punisher on this one, but not the other ones. Not blind. So I give him credit for walloping the guy and not breaking. There's a lot of the conspiracies too

like Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, Matt Murdoch. You're not alone. Stevie Wonder was my comparison here when he catches the microphone. But I'm just happy our boy the PMA finally finally brought the punishment finally brought the gore that we were promised and I feel like we had we had one at least one that I can think of on top my head the first episode I got one of those daredevil fight scenes right yes absolutely is this the one we're gonna talk about for born again is it this one is it the first episode what are we talking about? Is it the first episode? What are we talking about? I think the first episode one too, people love that them fighting up the stairs in

the one shot and bulls eye killing people as he's still fighting Matt and shit. But I think this one's up there. This is as good as we've gotten out of Punisher daredevil team up fight scenes. I would say I love the way it was shot. I love the darkness. I love how like the darkness kind of could shield some of the brutality and gore that we were seeing I mean, they don't try to hide it later on though. Oh my god Parts of heads ripped off and I was like, yes

Yes, what we were promised even dude when he fucking he slammed some guys head into the table and he just starts firing bullets And you see the bullet holes coming through the bottom of the table. Holy shit. It was crazy. But thank God they cracked the door because that you won't have to redo that. Everything else in the apartment is fucked, especially after the grenade comes in. They jump out the window and he hears the grenade. Matt Murdoch, of course, hears the grenade and we got a good intro to Karen. She's like, waiting there the headlights, I love that shot of them turning around their suits you could see in like the real light, it looked real good. And there you go. And we find out a little later on that, Matt Murdock, he's like, I heard your heartbeats. When you

guys saw each other, what was going on there? And that was funny to me, because as soon as they got together there was a little you know chemistry but not like the most romantic it was kind of that schoolyard we're fighting but we're also romantic my boy matt though he knew she was beating a little extra for him as well he goes yeah probably just the adrenaline yeah yeah yeah definitely definitely the adrenaline i'm gonna tell myself that that has to undress you man like just the fact that you know, someone could just hear your heart and Whoo, that's that's tough. That's tough. Yeah, she girls like to play it cool. Sometimes it's so cool with that, dude This is very non-blind person can also hear you

So they find out they're not find out Karen basically tells Matt all foggy's files were in storage He's like alright. Let's go check this out Let's find out what was happening with Vanessa putting the hit on foggy Punisher doesn't want to go with him Frank's like I don't I don't want that inspector gadget Such a good line he had a couple fucking great lines throughout this episode where it was just like Whoever was writing this was like let's let John Bernthal get a fucking line off so every scene during Basically from like the fight scene to this my wife came in the room as I was watching

She was just getting stuff done. She hasn't watched any of it and she really has no interest but Frank was cooking and I was like I was like she might get into this cuz like from Bernthal's like she she knows him from the bear and she probably knows it from a few other things and I'm like he is the kind of guy who can be like oh like let me check this out a little more and I was like keep going Johnny keep going well when when he goes off on his own they go to check out the files and they find out about Red Hook which is the fucking Wild West essentially it's just like no taxes, fucking whatever,

do whatever you want, criminals run wild. Built on powder kegs. Built on powder kegs. Powder kegs on powder kegs on powder kegs on powder kegs. Frank goes off to get the cops, the anti-vigilante task force. And he just rolls up one of them. It's like GTA style when you've got

five stars and you're like, let's just fucking see what happens here. I've got the cheat codes on and let's see how far I could make it. He does put up a good fight, but he's overwhelmed pretty quickly as well. And I was like, Oh fuck, is this where they're going to do like a, we're bringing him back into prison. Are we going to recruit him in some way? I knew he wouldn't work for them, but would he be forced to work for them in a fucking Jesse breaking bed? I didn't know what was going on when he wakes up. They do try to recruit him and it's the fucking corrupt cop They're all standing there with the logos and the behind the back shot of Punisher silhouette and the rest of the cops standing there with his logo

Straight out of a comic book and this is the scene where he gets the most lines off, where he fucking tells him, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. He's like, you look like a bunch of clowns. He's just shitting on them at every fucking turn. They're punching him in the face. He's like, all right, give me one more. You don't fucking got anything.

This was absolute aura badassery John Bernthal let loose let run to wild He's just the best. I loved this scene as much as I hated what was happening to Frank Castle And they're also like they hit him with the non lethal right so they're not looking to kill him here obviously But then at some point I'm like this just just seems, they're just gonna let this guy just murder all these people and just let them run wild just because they're, I mean, I guess they are fanboys, right? So yeah, that's kind of what it comes down to.

And that dude, I had a look at his name to make sure I got it because we've always just said he's just the hateable face. Powell is the guy. How will yes, yes, yes. I mean, he just the fact he plays like that he's in that chair kind of going back and forth with him He makes it right he survives like I don't think he yeah, I'm dying so happy You know I think I'm happy we have him still he is a guy who you're just he makes your blood boil He's definitely a blood boiler

And then Commissioner Gallow poor guy gets picked up not by his usual driver And we know where this is going it's cuz cause Kingpin heard the audio of them talking. Oh my God. Oh my God. Clem. When he's realizes he doesn't have his usual driver, did it remind you of a part of a movie? Reminded me a little bit of the dark night. Oh my God yes the two-faced scene at the end with fucking yeah yeah yeah oh my god right away. It's a good movie Bob. It's such a good movie. Hell I'll recommend that one. Recommend that to Dave. And they bring him in and I said the darkness hid the gore before there was no darkness

to hide this gore. It was bright lights and as soon as he walks in, it's the Dexter set up with the fucking plastic all over the walls. Commissioner Gallo had to know he was fucked in that moment and Kingpin squeezes his fucking head and just squashes it like it's not even like a normal head squeeze and actually I have this quote from Vincent D'Onofrio that I read right before we went live Vincent D'Onofrio said he had a big impact on this he said they were kind enough to let me take the lead I had a

particular idea it was written as a skull crush but I didn't want to participate in what we usually see in movies when they get their Skulls crushed. I thought it was more important to show the blatant raw brutality Decapitation in the original series. He basically unhinges his jaw Like scalps him somehow like his fucking hairs coming up with it. It was alright as promised They said this got more brutal than the original series got this was a more brutal visual than anything We've gotten daredevil wise for sure my nose goes There's the gore punishers bringing the gore and then I wrote next up and Kingpin brought the gore to holy cow

I like the other stuff the punish stuff. It's in the dark and it's gory, but this one you were just watching I as he's squeezing him I'm going wait are we getting a mountain versus the viper head explosion I go well I mean even though it's Marvel that's a little crazy here because the mountain is a whole other level and that's game of thrones where dragons are flying around and people are like you know fucking wizards and shit that was as I saw someone tweet at camera who was that was invincible. Like I saw that was a yeah true invincible. I was like true. I don't I am not in I'm not hungry. It's late at night but I am I've lost my appetite here. Oh I was eating. I was eating

during this scene. How about this we got home from the concert we had these frozen pierogies they were unbelievable. I had to put the pierogi down, Clem. I said, no, that was half pierogi. No, put it down. Eat it later. He knocked you out mid-perogi. Mid-perogi. Mid-perogi. Kind of range that D'Onofrio has, you know? Yeah. Oh, that was, that was, I listen, I, like, we don't like that police commissioner. We don't like those crooked cops in the vigilante. There was a lot of cop killing on this one for like, we don't like that police commissioner. We don't like those crooked cops in the

vigilante. There was a lot of cop killing on this one for Disney, you know. Oh, there was the woke the woke uh company that I've heard so much about because a lot of boys in blue and that was and listen, they're all crooked. So, you're of

course, they're yeah and they they also smartly renamed them first. So, they're not that's true. They're the anti vigilante task force. I actually thought about that. I was like, I wonder if there's a conscious decision to be like we're gonna rename them before we wipe them all off the map Which was a good idea also in my head. I don't know why I thought this I kept Hoping that the commissioners voice was gonna start talking like this like the guy from His voice even though it is an annoying voice

I don't know what it was about him because this guy kind of played the same Weasley guy as that other police officer or commissioner or whatever. And now we're just fucked because you know it's going to be like Howell or something there and it's going to be all one and they're going to because it's like Commissioner Gallo is the only one kind of waving the flag trying. He was the only one that sort of maybe had the power as commissioner I think to try to overthrow something but yeah rest in peace commissioner Gallo and then daredevil wants to go fight Karen kind of convinces him like you'd be overmatched right now like with the fight you're gonna walk in and fight right now you're all hurt and everything he

realizes we need an army and that was a badass line when he said it he was fucking they call it aura farming now I've heard that he was aura farming with that line and who could the army be I was writing it down So we've got the people that we've seen in this show the new white tiger the Punisher swordsman the people from the defenders Maybe the original daredevil series Jessica Jones Kristen R Kristen Ritter, Luke Cage, Iron Fist. And then we've got some MCU heroes that I feel like could also appear in season two, like a Kate Bishop.

She's a New York hero. If you have Kate Bishop, maybe Clint Barton Hawkeye can come lend a hand. Miss Marvel's right across the water in Jersey City, and we already have a little bit of a connection with her there. He knows her dad. Dr. Strange is on Bleecker Street. I don't know if Dr. Strange is going to appear. He seems a little too out there right now. But

Moon Knight was the other one where I was like, I think Moon Knight would actually work really well with this tone and I think it'd be cool. Then I didn't know if he was going to have a few people and then try to get the civilians to kind of turn on the mayor and then they would have everyone becomes a vigilante kind of a thing. Oh, they could do something like that because the cop killed the one guy, fucking put the beanie over his face. He's like, he wasn't a kid. He was a Max vigilante. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. We're all vigilantes. That's a badass. Clev, I like that.

Yep. I need this guy writing on the whiteboard. I'll write in season two, you time shall tell. And then the montage to end it with that Radiohead song just went so fucking hard when he walks out of the back of Josie's and he sees all the people that he loves and respects around him. They're sitting at Josie's and it was just a hell of a way to end this show. Then we get a post credit scene. John Bernthal in this zoo type prison that Vanessa and Kingpin have set up. And it's where they had Adam, they have the painting and everything, but there's now a bunch of cages. Swordsman is in one of them. It's a

bunch of people in these cages with the shackles and everything. Punisher calls a guard over by being nice to him. Oh yeah, I'm a nice guy. Fucking I respect you. Look up to me. Whatever goes to shake his hand. Fuck, I'm in snaps his bones snapping everywhere. We know that we're getting a Punisher one shot at some point soon. I think I think John Bernthal has already written it or is writing it. This, I would assume, will be the Punisher one shot his escape from here.

Maybe a killing spree a fucking rampage. It seems like a cool way to bridge the gap in a way that they maybe should have done with like the Book of Boba Fett bridging the gap between Mandalorian seasons. Like what if they just did a one shot like a Boba Fett movie on Disney Plus? I can't believe I brought it back to Boba Fett. As you do this, you just see like me dying inside. Mid sentence, I just realized that. Oh, God. I think the Mandalorian episodes are really cool, though, right? They were great, man. And he wrote a rancor. We got that visual. We got to see him escape the Sarlacc pit. That's seen at Tashi station. All right. It wasn't so bad.

Could you imagine the Punisher on a rancor now? We're talking. Oh my god I that that would be basically be like me on any given day in 2004 with my action figures This live on the podcast. I'm gonna go into chat GPT and say make a picture Oh, yes, Punisher riding her ankle. We're gonna see if it if it could do it Will the Punisher be a rancor. has the skull. Okay. Oh, oh, all right. It's not a big rain core. Is that a problem? A tiny rain core? Is a baby rain core? Can you present it? Is it is there a way to like put it in this? I will present it. That's a good call. We're

gonna share on the thing. You're gonna tell me your thoughts. I can say make the rain core bigger. I'm sure we can get that done for the people watching. And listen for the people watching it. We we support artists We don't support the AI. Yeah, okay fun here, you know Alright loading Do you see it rum roll please it's it's still loading into the stream yard for me Drum roll, please. I hit present

present. Oh, there it is. Oh, weird, dude. All right. I mean, the first one's weird. And that doesn't really look anything like it looks more like a I don't even know like a wolf than a rancor. It looks like shredder or not shredder looks like splinter from the Ninja Turtles, but like on four legs. The second one where he's in the prison jumpsuit and he for some reason has like bike handles on Godzilla maybe that one's cooler I'm gonna say make the rancor bigger we're gonna see what we can get great this is having fun. Fuck AI. Fuck Twitter. Hey, if you're listening on the podcast feed, this is worth checking out on YouTube because it's funny.

Alright, it's loading. I kind of did print it out. It kind of looks like the same ones. I do too. Oh, and they made the Punisher logo bigger on that one. Oh, God. Oh, you scary, Rankor. I mean, again, it's definitely not a Rankor. It looks like a mutated, I don't even know what dinosaur, I mean, it's a Seria rank. I breaks, hand breaks on it. Yeah,

that's all they added. I said, it's an echo. Yeah, they added going as the punisher and the right. Alright, well, I'll tell you what that's going to be in the thumbnail this week and everyone is going to be so confused as to what that is.

Can you save that one with the glowing eyes so I can use that in the thumbnail? Do you want the one with the red eyes? That one? Yeah, red eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one's's insane that one is unhinged as the kids say tell you what that is that's the official chicken jockey of the basement yes it's not the zombie on the chicken it's the punisher on a rancor fucking we were talking on the rundown today about Pat and his motorcycle right that has nothing on the Punisher riding a rancor with that is

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Question about daredevil season are the post credit scene better than Captain America? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah I mean if fucking you know if the leader got his arm snapped in the post credit scene or something maybe it would have held the candle to but yeah, that's definitely better we need I Marvel now must commit back to the post credit scene There was no post credits in there was one of the shows. They didn't have a was it a show? It just randomly didn't have one. Oh, weird. That was God didn't mean to do this. I brought up secretive.

But that's what it was, right? Well, we're like, hey, listen, there's a chance that the only good scene from like the last five episodes are going to be the post credit scene. And then they didn't even have a post credit scene. It was all fucking secret. We hit the bingo today. We definitely hit the bingo. The Last of Us Season 2 premiered this weekend. We were talking about it. We were hyped about it. I actually said to you right before we went live, I said, did you wind up watching

it with Sienna? Did you wind up watching it with your nine-year-old daughter, 10-year-old daughter? 10-year-old daughter, ten-year-old daughter? Ten-year-old daughter. Ten-year-old daughter. You said yes. So almost before your thoughts, I'm curious as to how that go. It went about as I'd expect because we watched the first season. We rewatched it and my wife watched it for the first time. I'm used to, there's just stuff that, it goes over her head a lot of stuff, thankfully.

And there's probably some stuff that doesn't, that she doesn't tell us about. And she's like, oh, I understand this. I heard her and my brother talking about, oh yeah, there's gonna, my wife and my brother talking about there's some parts coming up that might be a little awkward. I don't know if they meant the weed stuff,

cause that is obviously a part, which I mean, whatever it is what it is But all things like a smoker doesn't what she smokes or no That's a joke don't come after glam But this is the thing about her she watched it with us and then she watched it again and again And then she went in her room and tried to listen to the podcast that hadn't been uploaded on Alexia So she is no matter what we do and become obsessed with it. So it was again like one eye open All things considered this was about the best we can get a little weed reference. Who cares now? Now let me ask you like obviously

There's like adult themes in the show that are referenced or you're I would assume you're a little more worried about those than even the scary Stuff but like the scary stuff. She's fine with she's fine with and it's weird cuz she's not a scary movie girl by any means Yeah Her mom has likes a little bit of scary movies I am a big pussy with that stuff so she must have have get that from her mama. Cause I would not, I didn't want to watch this show with you. And then you're like, dude, we got to watch the video game was awesome. They're getting the art boy pagers in it. They're getting great reviews. And now I'm happy. Did it. However,

if it was as zombified as I thought it was going to be, I probably would have ducked out episode three. The fact it's not like that is what makes me like it. But in the end, I'm fine with her watching the scary stuff It's like that one creepy perv dude the preacher guy like that stuff like where he's talking about Oh, I'm gonna really I like the fight. He's using slurs and shit. Yes. I don't want to get into explaining that stuff I I don't envy that at all the true monsters of the show, right? Yes talked about a humanity is the true monsters of the show, right? Yes. We talked about it. Humanity is the true monsters. They're real sick people. And speaking of you, you said that you mentioned the video game. I feel like it's good to remind people we are not video game players in the sense

that like we don't know where the story's going. I at least I don't at all where the story's going in the future is cool. So please no spoilers. I know that there's spoilers out there because the video game exists, but we're going through this just loving the show itself. And I'll go back and play the video games one day. I truly do believe that. I'm loving the show so much that I wouldn't wanna play the second game and spoil it for myself.

It's like on that level of how much I think the show's fun to watch as a Sunday night HBO show. Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Like I can get the video games playing many times. You're not getting high level HBO quality Sunday night, nine PM shows all the time that everyone's pretty much in, which by the way, Dave said, now the last of us. That's a good Charles. Like, yes, he did.

The boss really likes the last of us. Yes. And you know what though? And I thought that was interesting when I saw that tweet, because I liked this episode of The Last of Us, the season two premiere. I have really no complaints about it, but I didn't necessarily leave the season two premiere of The Last of Us being like, oh my God,

the show's fucking back, it's awesome. It was a setup episode, and I'm fine with it being a setup episode, but it's another one of those unpredictable things. I wouldn't expect Dave to watch that premiere and be like, now that's fucking cinema. Like, again, I thought it was like good, but it just set a bunch of stuff up. It set the table for what I think is going to be a great season.

Yes, exactly. And I saw a clever blog and said, you know, basically, oh, it doesn't set up this episode. It's like, yeah, like you get those, you know, what show are we what show are we just saying where it's like there was never felt like there was a was a Penguin? Where I think we're like there was no filler? Like that doesn't happen often and that's gonna happen here. I don't know if we even really got one in season one. I feel like there was always just chaos even the first episode. We have obviously the whole effect and infection happens that day, right? So I'm fine with it. I feel like there is a big like change from one to two again I have no clue I can't watch have you spoiled five years like that I didn't even realize we were

doing a five-year age gap till they were doing promotion for the movie someone mentioned that I was like oh sure not the movie though this season two and that surprised me and it's interesting to see the five-year gap and I'm sure we'll get more on it, but already they're teasing things that have happened in that time. And it's like, what happened? Why don't you make the show about that time too? Yeah, I'm gonna be interested to see how they deal with all that.

Cause we could definitely see the relationship has changed between Joel and Ellie. And that also comes with, you know, kid on the run for their life to just settling down, having like, you know, a decent decent life all things considered and being a teenager She's gonna learn to like give grief to her parent figure so I could definitely understand that he's gonna fight back in his own way They're both figuring out on the fly. So I'm fine with that

I wonder if we will get any kind of flashbacks about what happened along the way because the show has done some flashbacks Yeah, and I kind of feel like we will with the Catherine O'Hara Eugene connection when they talked about that. So Catherine O'Hara is the therapist for the town. And that's like, obviously the town's doing well that they could have a therapist. And they're doing like meetings like that and stuff.

She's drinking, it's her birthday, and she's in a weird mood because it's her first birthday without her husband, who Joel killed a year ago. We don't get much information on that. I would assume he got bit and had to do it based on the way they were talking. But I loved this scene. I love Catherine O'Hara in everything. She's great in the studio actually. And I just thought the ending of this scene where he stands up and he has that fucking tear rolled down his eye He's just like I saved her and he delivers that great line. I know Saved her and a fucking tear. Oh my god. I was like you could give him an Emmy for that right now

I'm ready to give him the Emmy give me a me Bob do it by act like your microphone You gotta watch it on you head. I did it. You gotta watch it on, you gotta watch it on YouTube to see it. Come, come for the penisher running a rancor, stay for the Emmy acceptance by Pedro Pascal. Uh, the, the, as I was like doing the math, I'm like, oh, wait a second. I was like, I thought he, her husband might've been one of the people he murdered along the way. And then I'm like, no, that was during the five year jump where he's already back with Ellie.

So that's the, we opened with him talking to Ellie, like right after season one, or you know, like the day that all happened. She's like, is everything you told me about the fireflies true? And he like thinks about it for a second. He's like, mm, yeah. And then we go five years later.

And I feel like they're hinting at maybe Ellie as an adult is starting to think about all of that and being like, he might've been lying to me because she's now not talking to him. Even her best friend is noticing and picking up on it. And they just have that, like you said, kind of a teenage daughter father relationship at this point. So it's, I think maybe we're going in that direction. We meet Abby and the group of

people that lost loved ones that day and they're coming after Joel. And we know that they're going to be a problem. One of Abby's people is Falcon, Danny Ramirez. Did you notice him? No, I didn't even notice that. Yeah. So he's going to be a part of this as well. I have to admit, my focus was on Abby, I didn't even notice that. Yeah. Oh, so he's gonna be a part of this as well. I have to admit my focus was on Abby because I don't know anything about Abby. But I saw I think it was like when her casting was announced and I would always scroll past people. But I feel like people had very strong opinions one way or another. And based on that scene, it feels like Abby's going to be a problem for Yeah, it feels like the villain of the season, right? Like coming after our main character. Yeah.

Have you seen the video game version of her? No. Why don't you Google it live on air? Because KFC is actually a huge Last of Us fan. Right before we did the tag team draft, he was showing me some like comparisons of the game and what they did in this episode specifically, not like future spoilers or anything.

And she's Jack. Like she has Batista arms, she has the Destroyer arms. And he said people were complaining that like they didn't cast someone that Jack and I was like, I don't know if like, you would have to cast like a UFC fighter to play her. Like the you don't have like, those are video game arms. They look like SpongeBob's inflatable arms. have like those are video game arms. They look like Sponge Bob's inflatable arms. Alright, let's see. Oh, here we go. You can present. Yeah, look. I mean, look at those arms. I mean, we're talking Drax the Destroyer. I mean, this is let's be honest, let's bring it up. We already brought it up. That is Khaleesi at the end of Secret of Nation, right? It is. It's a girl with track arms. The like constant complaining about the casting isn't exactly as it was in the video

game. It's like, I know that fucking Joel in the video game was a white dude and you cast Pedro Pascal to blame and it's fucking perfect. Like those complaints, like I never understand. I'm trying to think like there's a chance I could not have liked something the way they change source material and one thing I like to another, it drives me nuts in Moneyball. They don't talk about how they had like the best pictures on the planet yeah Hudson gets ignored Miguel fucking Taha the MVP so I can

understand like the inconsistencies that's one of the blessed parts about being just a straight-up show watcher because like the people in Thrones who were like oh this person is completely miscast like don't know don't care ignorance is bliss and I am happy. Yeah. And at least your example of moneyball is like real people. We're talking about a video game character model, you know, like, we're telling the story for the first time in this medium, like you could change shit up like there doesn't bother me. One of my favorite lines of a Kevin Smith movie, they're fictional characters, fictional

characters. One of my favorite lines of a Kevin Smith movie. They're fictional characters, fictional characters. And there were a few scenes in this episode I wanted to point out specifically that felt very video game to me in particular, the sniper scene where she's learning how to use the sniper and learning how to use the drag and everything. I was like, is this the fucking sniper tutorial from the game? And lo and behold, it is fucking sniper tutorial from the game? Lo and behold, it is the sniper tutorial from the game.

KFC was the one to be like, oh yeah, it's like line for line exactly what the character's telling you as the player, as Ellie. And then the scene where Ellie falls into the basement of the store. And it's like, I don't know how to get up. Well, I'll look for a way. I almost expected the objective on the screen.

Find a way out of the store. Like it was so video gaming in a way that I appreciated. It felt like they did justice to a video game story. You should try to pay homage in that way. I was looking for like the triangle button to appear. Try a triangle to like lift up the plank. I was thinking the same thing. And I was thinking the

same thing and I think even the way they shot it, sometimes they shoot it like as a tribute to the video game. They've said this in the past with some of the the the actors they use some of the songs they played and just some of the shots they

had were straight from the game or like paying homage to it and I do think we got because I was right at my wife's house. This feels like I'm watching a video game right now. Yeah. And we that's a good scene because we meet the stalker, I believe they call them, which is a new variant of the fungi. We're going to run into the problem again. The fungi, fungi, the fucking zombies. It's a new version of the zombies.

I said Matt Murdock can see we could call them zombies. We're just ripping and rolling in the music today um And we see her stalking in the back and when I first saw like the crawl across the screen I didn't even know if it was a person I was like is that a fucking infected wolf? Is that an infected dog of some sort? Because I like on four legs so fast and and so quiet She turns around Ellie can't see her anywhere It was so well played and And then when you finally see what the stalker looks like, kind of has like crowns of fun

guy growing out of her hair. Such a cool character design. And a crazy scene where she bites Ellie in the stomach, and Ellie has to fucking kill her stab her ass and then cover that up later. She has to cut the the bite into what doesn't look like a bite anymore, which is just another like, it's just and then cover that up later. She has to cut the bite into what doesn't look like a bite anymore, which is just another, it's just a cool layer for her character to have maybe gotten bit a few times

and maybe covered a few of them up. Yep, now she's tattooed on her little bite marks. I thought that was cool too, yeah. Yeah, like how she's grown in the last five years. Okay, so that kinda goes into the scene in general, and this kinda goes into the stuff I said about the Heather bullshit. and that I watched The Last of Us with to turn into a teenager. And again, I heard her and my wife are gonna be locking horns and Scott will be like, daddy, and I'll be like the nice, the good cop. But man, it's like, hey, when she's like that

and she's young and she's had nothing but pain in the world, I can understand that. She's a wisecracker, but she listens. She's not even listening now. Don't go into, this is a scout mission. Do not go in. If there's an issue, and as soon as it there were well something's happening. Do you know she's running in there like a goddamn asshole?

Sure enough like a goddamn asshole. I know and I felt for the people on the scout mission with her so much when they go into that store and they're fucking still out there on the horses. I was just like don't do this to these people. Now these people's asses are in the jackpot a little bit. Why'd you let her do that? If something happens, You know, it was just like, oh, I felt I felt secondhand embarrassment in the same way like we were talking about with the fucking Minecraft

movie. Like if you're out of the movies and your friend is being too loud and you're just like, oh, no, but there's people around us like people like, please, like, I felt that secondhand embarrassment for those people. And the the ending scene which you were saying they recreated some things shot for shot This was one of those things from the game where I've seen a lot of side-by-side Comparisons of the was the New Year's Eve, right the the ball or whatever What was the year to is like 2029 2029? Bob do you think we make it to 2029 in the real world, where we are right now? We talked about this recently,

maybe on the rundown or on the podcast, and I said- Oh yeah, 2028 was just here. Yeah, I said it was probably 6040 in the negative direction. So what are you saying for 2029? I'll say 6535. I think that's right. Just five, you know? Yep, fine. 28 might be where it all falls apart, and then right before nine is finito, finito. I think that's right. 6535. I

thought that was cool. Her friend comes up to her, Nina, Dina. Dina, I think. Dina. And like they start dancing. They made the joke earlier. Her friend made the joke to Ellie like, oh, you're going to invite so and so she's the only other one in town, the only other lesbian in town. So we know, okay, Dina clearly considers herself not a lesbian. So Ellie's fascination, we could see Ellie's completely like infatuated by her when she's putting the jacket on her or whatever. She has a crush glow about her when you're looking at yes. And we're like, that might not be on both sides. This scene flips that a little bit because Dina comes on to Ellie. She's like, how do I smell? Ellie's like, like fucking garbage.

You smell like hot garbage. She's horrible. Rub is herself on Ellie. Then they start kissing and it's like romantic and everyone's looking at them. And then someone says, hey, it's a family event. What are you doing? And I get that because it was a family kids around whatever they were. They were making out sloppy drunk on the dance floor. But then he takes it a step too far He drops the DSLR on him and then Joel comes out like the fucking office linebacker and I loved it

I loved when Joel fucking came out of nowhere and hit him down I was like yeah get the fuck down and then Ellie gets mad at Joel for it. And again, I was Ellie This perfect dad thing to do in that moment. He did. It's not like he **** killed the guy. He **** shoved them down. The guy was out of pocket and listen. Yes. I understand when he was coming home with some of

the stuff. Some of it. I was like, alright and then once you drop in the game, it's going to happen. I had the same exact Joel and Terry Tate on him. You said you did too. I stayed down. I think we all thought the same thing. That's why those

commercials were great. They need to come back. They were fantastic every time. They were really good. Listen, my other line here, I think this is after the creepy crawly, as I called it, after that whole scene, I was like, not sound like a dad, but you gotta punish Ellie. Like she did the wrong thing. She can't go.

And despite all that, Joel was just still standing up for her and she's hurting me, Bob. She's hurting my heart. Change the strings on your guitar. You've been playing guitar? And then we get the little glimpse, which this was cool. We get the glimpse of in the pipes, the fungi growing. And this is apparently not part of the game. Another part of KFC's One Minute Man, which he said this is kind of a new thing, where the pipes could be growing or they could be communicating with each other through the pipes, through the fungi somehow.

And a lot of people pointed out that Ellie cleaned her knife in water from the pipes before she cut herself around the bite. So could that expand into something? I know she's immune from a typical bite, but is there a mutation? Is there a fucking different variant who knows? When I saw them go into those pipes, I did say I feel like fungus can go through that That's just my dumb brain. Yeah, and I don't know anything but when I saw I go, holy shit I think I just called out the fall of if Jackson does fall. I think it's because of that and yeah, I Feel like Jackson ain't to be in a good place. And that's just a no. And Abby and the survivors are definitely come and they saw something in the fucking distance. So it's like, oh, they're coming to wreak havoc. I mean, this is classic Walking Dead stuff. You know, you get to a town as

soon as the town starts thriving and you're like, all right, let's start booking therapy appointments. That's when shit goes down. Once you hit a certain level of thriving, then therapy is usually where it's at. It's like, we're doing this shit. Once you get into fucking, does your health insurance cover this? Then they're in there.

Oh shit, yeah, perfectly said, man. And we're talking hordes, and we obviously know we have these, I guess they're they're like a firefly They're like fireflies essentially right? Yeah, they're scorned fireflies those two things coming together with a town That's maybe getting a little fat like what do they say? Pigs get flat fat, but hogs get slaughtered or something like that I feel like there's gonna be some slaughtering going on would you say? We could transfer over a couple powder kegs

onto The Last of Us from Red Hook? Can we make some Red Hook imports? I think and like because Red Hook is technically its own port or independent or whatever, you can just ship that shit across franchises. No tariffs. Yeah, no tariffs. No tariffs. Huge. I think that place is the most important place in the world right now. You can go across franchises, across channels. We're going from Disney to Max. Powder kegs, I mean, that is a great, is there more powder kegs in Red Hook or Jackson? Because I feel like it might be Jackson right now. Right now, it's probably Jackson because I mean, Daredevil is going to need a lot of

time to assemble that army. Jackson, it's right now. Right now it's probably Jackson because I mean Daredevil is gonna need a lot of time to assemble that army. Jackson, it's right now. I think one of the powder kegs is on fire too. Yeah, the fuse at least is lit. Once you saw that fungus moving, that is there's one of the fuses is lit on one of the powder kegs. Yes. Once one blows up, they're all gonna blow up. Day one, fucking world war one. That's tough right there there TNT level chicken jockey shit Just work the chicken jockey back in there for the kids You know what if there's like some sort of way to go Like by saying chicken jockey enough time the YouTube algorithm will place us into the right spots. Yeah How about hashtag for this week hashtag Punisher jockey? this week, hashtag Punisher Jockey. Punisher Jockey, I'll make that definite. And if you didn't see it go on the YouTube,

go in and just scroll the part where we are, just see the thumbnail that apparently it's gonna be on. Oh man. This was a great extravaganza. I'm excited to get into more The Last of Us, also Andor coming up at the end of April. I think we're a week or two away from that as well, and three episode chunks.

Did you see that new teaser? The Andor teaser? With the tie interceptor? Oh yes. The Andor teaser looks great. We just got a teaser for something else that I thought was great too. Oh, we got a new look at Fantastic Four,

just a quick conversation. I thought that was funny though. Yep, I like that. I wish they had actually kept the Andor one in pocket like that was a fucking cool ass scene I wish I hadn't seen that you know I think we would have been coming out of doing like holy shit maybe they have enough in the bucket already where they're like yeah we can we can dabble with this stuff because there's enough coming up I hope that's the case. And of course Wrestlemania this weekend so follow along for Wrestlemania coverage if you're a

wrestling fan of course I gotta hit Jared Karabas up for maybe a from the top rope or two I'll see if he's down for like a preview it's last minute so I don't know but we'll definitely be doing a recap of WrestleMania as well so I'm excited I'm very I'll be missing last of us this next episode I guess so no spoilers as well I'll have to come back from WrestleMania Sunday night watching my hotel so there we go hashtag Punisher jockey. Thank you everyone for watching and we'll see you next week