New Rory & MAL - Episode 553 | Lethal Injection

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

Happy Friday! The gang kicks off this episode with a discussion about workplace equality, Demaris shares her plan for Sober October, and Mal discovers what No Nut November is. A woman on death row in Tennessee survives after two lethal injections, which leads to a debate about the death penalty vs. life in prison, and the appropriate consequences for different crimes. Staying on the jail topics, video of Diddy surfaces of him using an illegal cellphone in prison, as well as a report saying he pays thousands of dollars to inmates to give him massages, cook for him, and do his laundry. Rick Ross gets arrested, Remy Ma flaunts her “Jezebel” jacket and chain, and Quavo and Offset reconcile for Quavo’s new album. A listener calls in with questions about dating a younger woman, and the guys try and give him some advice. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever SIGN UP FOR THE POLYMARKET APP WITH CODE RORYMAL FOR S25 BONUSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a conversation. Maybe you're about to be mad at here, but it's all right. Oh. First of all, how are y'all feeling? How are y'all doing? Baby, do you good? I'm all right. You feel good?

I'm okay. Start a dry October. Remember we talked about it? We said we were going to do it together. Today's the first, right? Yeah, today's the first. So how you feeling? How you feel?

Somebody how they feel it? Day one. Twelve hours into the day. 12 hours into the day. Well, 14. Even 14 hours. 14 hours in, baby. How you feeling?

Shit. You holding on strong? You're going on strong? You're going. make it. Shit, Ralph, you niggas annoying me already. I want to drink bad. You're asking somebody if they're going to make dry, what is it?

Know what? Dry October and no nut November. Dry October. Well, just do what alcoholics do and go get some coffee. I would have went with you. Want some month? Is that like what Alki's do? They get coffee instead of.

I feel like all AA meetings have a lot of coffee at them. Coffee and cigarettes. Coffee, pastries. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing that the AAs. I'm just going to stick with water. Good old H2O.

Okay. Listen, man, if you need to talk any time of night when you feel like you're about, you know, relapse, just call me. You're going to answer? Yeah, yeah. When have you, Demaris, we do this all the time. When have you ever called? No, we're not going to get into it.

No, listen. When have you ever called my phone and I didn't answer? Not text, not respond to a text. It's okay. These cameras on. You acting like this because these cameras are on, but it's okay. Demaris, you have never called my phone. I didn't answer.

And if I didn't answer, I call right back like in five minutes. Right or wrong. Okay. See, I text you last night, right? You did? Texting me bullshit. Maile texted me bullshit. I had to text like, you for real or we giggling?

Yeah, DeMaris was trying to like gauge if I was like joking or not. That was what was just talking about. You said, I'm in here dying. I'm just like, I thought he was being dead serious. I'm like, what are we doing right now? I'm never serious. Demaris, if I text your phone, nod, times out of 10, I am never serious. Serious as fuck.

The last time you text people, we ain't going to talk about that. Oh, well, that was a, you know, that was a different circumstance. Different, different scenario. Different scenario, different climate. Yeah. Yesterday was all funnies. Nothing, nothing to be serious about. How you feeling?

Are you good? Yeah, feel great. All right. And we're off to talk about the culture. But before we do that, uh, I'm not participating in no, November, but November though, I want to make that clear. Bitch, you ain't get no nuts last month. Yeah.

I asked you all last episode. Does that mean, like, self-induced nuts? And you guys said, yeah. Yeah, you can't, you can't, you can't release at all. I know I don't get pussy but I get me My boy that's locked up right He called me

That's a wild transition He called me he was like This was like three weeks ago He was like yo man I need you to hold me accountable I was like I said you're in prison What are you talking about?

A nigga Maddo They can't hold you accountable Like the judge can't How do you expect me? The state of New York has held you gal I'm like what are you talking about? He was like no man He was like yo man I'm telling you man

I just don't want to, I don't want to masturbate no more. I'm like, all right, like, what you want me to do? I'm trying to be the supportive friend out in the free world. You know, I'm here to listen and here to help. The same way you are with Baby Dee with her. Yeah, I mean, I help. Like, listen, you're behind the wall. You're in the cell.

Listen, I can, you know, I understand life is a little rougher for you than it is for me. So what do you need for me to, how do you want me to hold you accountable? He's like, nah, man, I need you to do it with me. Bitch, I'm free as fuck. You crazy. I'm not doing a bit. One of the number one reasons not to get locked up. I'm like, yo, what?

What you mean? He's like, nah, man, you can't jerk off either. Like, what? I am in my home, bro. Oh, man. You know, that's mad for you. That feels like a selly thing. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know why I'm the right person to do this.

Yeah, I'm like, yo, bro, listen, man, just, you know, stay strong, stay focused today. How often is he beaten all? in jail that he feel the need to like stop. You have a lot of time on your hands. Yeah, his thing was more so like he don't want to do it at all. Like, at all. He doesn't want to like, he was, that's what he saying. He was like, yo, man, I think this shit is stupid.

Like, first of all, look where I'm mad. He's like, hey, no tricks in here. Like, why I'm getting horny? I'm depressed when I beat off at home and I look up at myself disgusted. Looking up and it's like mad like cells around me. Like, now he has him a cell by itself. Let me make that clear. He doesn't have a cell.

Oh, that's like the writs then for him. Yeah. I probably beat off too. He has a cell. his own little, you know, TV and everything, like, you know. So, you know, I don't know. I don't know what he's finding, what he's watching that, you know. I was about to say his own TV, what's on there?

The price is right. Like, what are you beating off to? It ain't like they got. Jerking off the Bob Barker is crazy. Like, it ain't like they got fucking. I said 100, not 1001. Like, under, under. They're not putting fucking Nelly videos on the TV.

Like, what are you? I mean, when you locked up, I guess, I don't know. Beat off to fucking like Sears magazines and shit. He watching the view getting it off. Man. You adapt to your environment. Yeah. He watched the view reruns.

I got a strong imagination. I got away from the call me and just make sure I just, you know, I guess I got to hold him accountable. What was your answer? Hey, you haven't been in touching yourself. Have you been in there touching yourself? There's no, nothing November coming up. Prepared. I don't know, man.

And is there like a drug test version of that? Like, how do you find out if he's lying or not? Yeah. Like, how do you know, you're keeping it real? You being honest? Like, you're being honest, I don't know me. You look flushed. Like, you know, nigga look peaceful.

Yeah, you look flush, man. Have a lot of experience with addicts and I can tell you're lying. Yeah, you're lying, man. You're lying, but, you know, I don't know. I don't know about no nut November, but have at it, baby, dude. You're doing no, no, no, no November, too? Mm-hmm. Okay, but that means, that means you could just have, like, wax sex.

All right, bring your rose. You got bring your rose and leave it in here. we'll put it in a lockbox we can put the rose right next to the kid dude baby D give me all your tools

yeah bring the rose bring whatever I got my backpack Yeah bring your whole little night bag and just leave it right there in the corner man No you can't

you can't leave it Don't put it here No we'll cover it Yeah I don't want to stare at it like while I'm at work I'll put it in a zip lock bag like evidence You know just put in the corner

somewhere can't have no rose in the house. Okay. Ryan, don't use my shit when I'm not looking. Ew. I do using a rose is crazy. It's fucking nuts. What you're using on your nipples?

Like what you want to know? What would a guy use a rose for? You can use it on your tip. You can use it on your balls? On your balls. You ever had a girl hum on your balls? Yes, no matter. Okay.

It's similar to that sensation. Okay. Thank you. Got you. You've ever had a girl. girl hum on your balls. Had a hummingbird. Yeah.

Oh, man. That's a double intranja. Don't even ask you how about. All right. Well, speaking to beat, Shorty beat lethal injection. This is news coming out of Tennessee.

Governor Bill Lee has paused the capital punishment on Thursday and called for a review of the state's policy on how it puts people to death. This came after Krista Pike who was on death row she survived two doses of lethal drug pentobarbital which is supposed to like send you the greener pastures immediately uh and this is the state's second botched execution man just give her some bad fit that'll knock her out in one one little hit yeah i mean i i don't know how you survive because she's the fucking devil yeah but that's like not the devil like well death row would say she is they was trying to send her to where she belonged and where she came from

Do you know what she did to the woman that she thought was flirting with her, her man? I do know what she did and she does deserve to be punished. She brought part of the skeleton to school to show everybody. Everybody has the reasons they do things. I'm not sticking up for her. She deserves to. Are you sure? You kind of feel like my point.

My point is she does deserve to be punished. If you believe in a death penalty, she deserves to be put to the death penalty. There's no doubt about that. But the devil, no. She deserves her fair shake. her life should be taking like shorty life. She had two shakes. But you don't know people's stories and why and how they end up the way that they are. The devil is you just born evil. And I don't think a lot of people are born evil. Sometimes the devil will jump in you.

Sometimes. You start off cool. But then there's sometimes that you have, you survive very horrific shit and it turned you into a horrific person. Not an excuse, but sure. But how do we know she wasn't just born evil based off? Because they tell her, the people that were trying to stay her as execution told her story. Okay. Got you. I only know the details of the crime. I don't know. Yeah. From her parents, yeah, yeah, multiple times, raped multiple times. Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it. Okay. Mentally fucked up. Like, yeah. But yeah, no, she need to, she definitely needs to be,

she need to go. But I feel like if you beat this, if you beat the two lethal injections, God still want me here. Like, y'all, the state of Tennessee can't override God. Like, God still want me here. God ain't take his hand off me. He ain't take his hand off me. Shit, y'all got to let me ride. Y'all got to let me run against me shall prosper. That's what I'd have been saying. I'd have been in that motherfucker's no weapon Formed

Two rounds of lethal injection And I'm still in. You think she's really into Christ? That's what you think? I mean, if she wasn't, she is now. And I'm still in the motherfucking house. Yeah, like, so I mean, I don't know what this means, though. I'm not sure.

I think you could pray to that other side And the other side might keep you alive too. I don't know why y'all keep thinking is God. Somebody said, even hell didn't want her. Yeah. That's crazy. Does she get another last minute? meal? I think she refused her last meal, actually. Oh, did she? Yeah. You know what the last? Well, now you've got to get like some Chipotle or something. No, first of all, I just found out that the last meal has to be made in a prison. And it can't be worth more than $10 or $10 or $20. That's got to be new. 10 or $20. Because I've read on Instagram, which is the one definitely factual. It might be, it might be according to the state. But I think it can't exceed like $10 or $20 or something. And didn't like Outback have some scandal where like they gave some mass murder like,

the last meal in the Outback was like, chill, we don't like, we ain't know it was going there. Oh, yeah. I mean, we just made the stake. Spending caps, states that permit special meals enforce strict budget limits, such as a $40 limit in Florida Department of Corrections and a $25 limit in Oklahoma. And Tennessee is $20. What the hell? What the day was getting, Arby's? The food must be purchased locally or prepared directly in a prison kitchen.

Wow. I mean, not that they need, uh, they don't need crust. and nothing like that. Get his ass out of it. It's not like you're going to enjoy it. Like if you know this is your last meal, can you even taste that shit? No, I should say like cardboarding.

Yeah, everything. My taste buds don't even work if I know this is the last thing I'm about to eat. Yeah. And then you're about to walk me down the hole in 10 hours and kill me? I can't taste this shit. Nah, because John Wayne Gacy, the clown guy, he got KFC. I mean, it probably was under $40 probably.

Yeah. Especially at that time. Yeah. $40 a KFC and what was that, the 90s? You could have ate for a month. $40 of KFC. That's why I understand. My mom's like, we got food upstairs.

This is $3. Yeah, 1999. $19. $3.94 in Illinois, yeah. $40, you could probably franchise. You could have franchise at KFC. Come on, man. Yeah, you could have bought the joint.

$40, you big bowling in 94. What would you guys this last meal be? That's a really good question. Is it? Yeah, I've never thought about that. Like my absolute last, last meal. Yeah. I need a porterhouse.

It probably, it probably, um... Medium. It'd have to probably be a steak. Steakhouse mac and cheese. Steaks and mashed potatoes. Yeah, I probably go that route. Peas just shrimp scampy. Shrimp scampy.

Look what the peas want to eat. Peas, you lying. First of all, you want a funnel cake. You want corned. You want all cornucon. You're like, you get at the Yankees game. Give me the carnival buffet. Like, I want all carnival food.

Peach, bought cay candy, peanuts, cracker, jacks, and corn dogs is the office today. Celebrating the Yankees win, man, that's all. Oh, my God. But I don't want to be all bloated up there on the chair? It really doesn't. Rory, I promise you. Not, but you only somebody be like, oh, man. People get to watch.

I don't want to have gas and people watching me in a choir room. Or, I mean, there is that when some people are. killed and they're about to shit their bowels like do you sometimes shit when you die? Maybe like if you really wanted to make a statement you get as much sloppy Joe as you can

and shit when you die for everybody. You know what I never understood? Like people that be on death row when they be walking them to like the chair, they'd be actually walking. You niggas would have to drag you. But why do all of that? No matter what you're going to get there anyway. I'm going out with a fight. I'm not just walking to my death chair. You don't want your honorable death?

Fuck no. No, I'm walking on my head. Head high. Fuck that. Jail mascara on. Bad bitch. Oh, that's she about to get singed. Them fake lashes.

All of that about to burn it in seconds. It's going to smell like burnt rice in 10 minutes. Hell, no. They be walking just some... What? No, I'm not going out like that. Nah, you got to go out like a John Coffee. Nah.

No. No. I'm going out like... Who was that one dude that was kicking and screaming? They had to put the, they had to time up like a hog. They had to carry me in there like luggage. I'm not walking. Walk to the chair.

Walk right there and sit down. Get the, nigga. Walk right there and sit down and you're about to fry me. It's not happening. So you're going to, what, assault a guard to the point where you got to shoot you? It don't matter. What you're going to give me? More time?

It don't matter. I'm fighting, kicking, biting. It's going to be rough getting me to this chair. Well, with sickers. is the practice they do. Well, obviously they don't do the chair anymore. And I'm only going off what I watched in the Green Mile. But they did dress rehearsals.

You're not about to drag me to the chair to dress rehearse my death. Are you serious? You never saw the Green Mile? No. Yeah, they do like a practice run the day before. I think I was very, very, a lot of movies I watched when I was like a damn near a baby. You should watch. It's one of those movies.

It's a great movie. It's a great movie. That's like the movie that they would show you like in school on movie day. Like they would definitely like. Green Mile was. take two days the while yeah yeah they would definitely drag that out and and turn that on that's definitely one of those movies um but yeah they de merce they did like a practice run the day before where they take you from your cell they sit you in the thing and they do like a pretend situation now that's

crazy and not knowing they didn't wet the sponge like i don't know maybe you deserve to get cooked that way no john coffe no the other guy remember um when percy got his first go at it it was a that um that had the mouse right yeah yeah didn't wet the sponge great i mean oh at at this point is it double jeopardy for uh what's on the name christa yeah no they're gonna make sure they they're gonna make sure they go through with this yeah now you were saying something very interesting before we started this is the second time or first time i believe it's the first time that they had an all female staff according to the new york Post, which is very relevant.

Born into the New York Post, allegedly. This is the first time they had an all-female staff in charge of the state's execution. They did not have Tom Hanks at the helm. So do we think that this is a case of maybe one of the women on the staff felt bad, like... Women looking out for women? Yeah, and instead of... For a woman that killed a woman? Instead of putting the dough, she was post, maybe she put, like, you know, some ivy, like, something to, like, hydrate her or something.

Just saline? Yeah, a little same. like, you know, let's not, I'm just saying, like, it could be a case, right? It could be a case. We've seen crazy things happen. Ten years from now, we get word that one of the women on the thing was a close distant relative or distant friend of, and decided to switch vows and was like, it could be anything. I'm just saying, there's something. That'll be a good SVU episode.

Oh, I'm sure they're already shooting this right now. Outside. It has nothing to do with sexual victims unit, but it'll be on long. in order as view for sure. Medical experts said there were signals that an intravenous catheter rather than directing the drug into the bloodstream allowed it to leak into the tissue surrounding the insertion point because of how or where the ivy was inserted because of the fragility of Mrs. Pike's veins or for another reason. Such an outcome is known as IV infiltration and has been cited in past botched, past botched executions.

Medical experts said that experienced doctors would typically be able to recognize signs of an IV infiltration as it occurred. Experienced doctors would be able to recognize that. I mean, I guess. I'm not for the death penalty, not in like any moral way. I think like as taxpayers, we pay too much for. for prisons in general, but I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to like the monsters on the guilty monsters on death row to just rot in there for the rest of their lives. Like to me that's worse than getting the easy way out of just having someone inject some shit

and I'm going. No, I don't believe that. It's easy to say that when you don't have a somebody that you're closer that's a victim of one of these monsters. I understand that. But I mean, what would be worse? letting them suffer for another fucking 50 years or just they're done clean why do you say suffer i think you jail is not i don't know if y'all notice or not do you y'all know people in jail yeah of course jail is not as bad it's like y'all think it's like like i don't know if you

what i think is going on in prisons like you can do a very comfortable very easy i'm saying you can go to school you can get a trade you can start making license plates and shit like that do they still do the license like i don't know i'm just guy you can work out you can you can go to school you can go to could fucking, like, you can, you don't have to be, like, jail is not this place where you wake up every day and just fighting for your life. You could pay inmates for massages, like, puff. But jail also sucks, well, I hear what you're saying. You could also get stabbed. Yes. I can get stabbed going to get fucking pizza right here. Fair. So, but I think there's a higher chance of getting stabbed in prison than walking to get pizza right now. Well, because there are more people

that have stabbed in prison. Exactly. And it is, right? So yes, it's a higher chance. But if you're in prison just doing your time. Well, hear me. Minding your business. Like, you're not in as much dangerous people think. You didn't let me finish it.

I know even people on death row have fucking TVs and shit. And some of them are living better than people that are free. I get that. I'm saying if you remove the death part of death row and just make it a very, very

shitty environment for somebody for the rest of their lives. Like put them in isolation for the rest of the way? Like, you just dare. You got no TV. You don't get no books. then to me that's fucking worse. I don't know, man.

Throwing me in a box with no windows, can't speak to nobody. I don't have a TV. I don't have nothing. I think that, kill me. Please kill me. Yeah, but we still. The next 60 years of my life,

I'm just sitting in darkness. Just kill me. Like, what are we talking about? Yeah, but then taxpayers are still paying for these people to. Well, that's where I said, that's where I wouldn't mind paying that as opposed to somebody that has a fucking weed charge. that's costing, you know, $1,500 a day.

But we didn't charge, you're not on fucking death row. I know. I'm saying I'd rather take the tax dollars to do that than for petty little charges where inmates are costing $1,500 a day. God forbid, if one of my friends' kids was molested and they found a person, kill him or kill her. But you don't get the death penalty for stuff like that. I don't care, but I want them to die.

I agree with you, but I'm saying that's the shit that the death penalty goes to is not stuff like that. you should get the death penalty for that. Anybody that rapes should kill him. Other countries do it. You rape in other countries? There's no, you're not going to trial.

We're going to kill you tonight in 30 minutes. Like, you ain't no reason to draw this thing out. Yeah, we know he raped this woman. Like, kill him. Very simple. And I mean, in this hypothetical, let's say everyone that is convicted is guilty because that's where things get fucked up

because there's plenty of people that are wrongfully convicted, even on death row we've seen. Like when DNA got added in, half a death row walked out because it's like, oh, they just accused the wrong black guy. Let's just end this fairy tale. Everyone's guilty. What if a family of the peers got to decide what your sentence was? I'm with that.

That would be fucking great. I'm with that too. Like the family reunion gets together after and we all get to vote on what happens to this person. I'm telling you, lions then. Lions want to eat half these niggas though Shit Hungry lions

Oh hungry yeah Yeah the hungry ones Throw them down in that den I tell it all the time And let us watch The same way we could watch All these streamers stream that Streamer convicted rapists

That we know Let's go to stream road Show us him going in the Lions den Niggas Niggas are tightened Niggas has changed their minds About what they're doing Yeah crime

Pugh If your victim's family could decide what happened to you, I do think some people would think differently about crime. Definitely. Definitely. That would change how someone will go about doing someone. Just changing the penalty for crimes, crime drops. Like we see it in states like, do you get a harsher penalty for certain things?

And it's like that shit, the numbers drop. Imagine showing us somebody being thrown into the lines. Because the family said, that's what we want to happen to this person. Imagine we could watch that. Nobody, that crime that that gentleman did, nobody's doing that. But a lot of the people that commit crimes that get you on death row are usually so sick in the head that the consequences aren't really on their mind. Like they could watch the lion shit and be like, yeah, it looks ill. I can't wait to get that attention.

Some of these people really do that shit so they could be the serial killer, like a type of person. But I don't know. I'm curious what if this changes anything with our death row model. Well, they've halted Tennessee's death row. executions for the rest of the year. So she won't die for the rest of the year, at least. And then we'll see what happens. How often are people who are dying?

No death November for her. No death November? No death December. It's a dry October for her. She probably regrets not getting the last meal. She's probably starving when she woke up. She might not be well. Well, they brought her to the hospital, but. Yeah, I was going to say she might not be well because those drugs are like supposed to

stop your heart, stop your breathing. Like when they said she was snoring. I'm like, I don't know about, she's not asleep. Like, she's struggling to breathe. So we don't know if oxygen was getting to her brain. We don't know what condition she's in right now. I will say, though. All right.

They said that what we have been told is that she is in critical condition receiving life-saving care. And just to let you know. What is the point of that? Why are she receiving life-sate? Y'all was just about the killer. Now y'all get her life-saving care? For everyone that's listening to this that is against universal health care,

Please explain this one to me. There's people with no health insurance. And y'all was just trying to kill this bitch. And now y'all giving her life-saving care. What is like this is, the world is crazy, man. And I'm having trouble getting an epipen for my daughter right now. It's crazy, man. That's fucking nuts.

Oh, well, we'll have to see what happens to Crystal Pike. And, you know, if she makes it out of this critical condition that she's in. and if they save our life only to try to take it again. This world is crazy. How many death row inmates are killed each year? Like, how big of an issue is this? Roughly 25 to 32. That's way more than I thought.

Yeah, I didn't. I assumed it was like one or two a year. No, how much? Sometimes zero. More than that. Definitely more than that. What did you think about everything with Puff? They throw them back in Solitaire.

Well, Diddy is a... He's playing solitaire in there. Diddy is reportedly, reportedly, paying fellow inmates thousands of dollars a month to give him massages, cook his meals, do his laundry and clean bathrooms before he uses them.

Sources also, I love the sources. Sources also say he has access to Hennessy, contraband phones, and the jailbroken tablet he used to watch 50 cents documentary about him. And then a picture came out of puff in jail with

some type of phone of that's an iPhone. Well, it was a video too of this. This is a screenshot of a video. Oh, the screenshot of it. So somebody was in there recording him. Yes. Someone with an illegal phone

recording him with an illegal phone. Or could somebody with a jail issue tablet that recording? Can you do that with jail issue tablets to record that way? I'm pretty sure you can't record. That was probably somebody that worked at the prison that he didn't pay on time

that decided to snitch. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, this is jail. it like he's not the only one yeah no i mean puff has money i mean if you have money you're in prison you can like i said you can live a very have a very comfortable prison sentence there's nothing you can't get seals are bringing just about anything um iPhone cost probably like five thousand dollars to get into a prison yeah i think puff has five thousand dollars um

you can get lobster tails garlic mash you know you can get chocolate lava cake and get all the things COs got to bring it in on their shift. They come in for, you know, for work. Just make a stop at, you know, chilies or something. Give me the fried ice cream and some shit like that. He also lucked up by getting the Fort Dix. Like, that's not far from New York City. Yeah, not far.

And then, listen, at the end of the day, this is, this is puff. All of the CEOs know who he is. Yeah. All of the inmates know who he is. And again, jail is this drug. There's everything that's out here is in jail. you got you know CEOs that have sex with you

for money you know prostitution so all of those things in there I mean I'm sure a lot of the CEOs went to Puff first not the other way around no shit show I'd have been first in line like what you need this is how much it's going to cost

what do you need? Yeah like I mean they're not going to make it difficult for them because as a CEO you could as a CEO if you know take care of Puff you could probably make over $100,000 easily just bringing him whatever he needs to make his sentence more comfortable. So, I mean, I don't think there's anybody that didn't know already that Puff had a cell phone in jail. Yeah.

Like, he can promise you. He definitely had a cell phone from the time he got there. Like, that's not, there's no surprise in that. Paying for the fucking massages is crazy. Especially because you know Puff freaked out, got them men in there rubbing on him. Why you say men? Are you going to be female CEOs massage? It could.

I would think that if it wasn't puff. But judging by the percentage gender base there. And it also said his fellow inmates. He paid his fellow inmates that said that in an article. Listen. When I was on the Rock DeVell's Cruise, there was only that one guy masseuse left. Like sometimes if you got a kink in your neck, like sometimes the guy's hands was better to get the notzo. Yeah.

Their hands are bigger. Like they can cover them on surface area the same way. I love making more uncomfortable. They got stronger jaws. Like, men do some shit better than us. Stronger jaws for my dog. Hey, yo. What do they have to do with a massage?

I'm having strong jaws. It depends on what he massages. That's very true. But back to Roar, you let a man massage you and rock the bells crew? We had a whole, we had a, it was a segment. We made a clip out of it. I'll be deleting that shit from the files. No, it wasn't like, I wasn't laying down on like a rub down.

It was, they gave me, um, like a spot. certificate as part of the whole thing. And it was the last day and I hadn't used it. So there was like, you know, what's the skincare shit called in a spa? It makes it worse. Yeah, facial. But yeah, there was only a guy left to do. I didn't like lay down and have a man massage me.

But I mean, he did, he did massage my neck. He gave you a facial and massaged your neck, your head. Yeah. All of that. Yeah. He gave you a facial? Yeah. Mm.

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Yeah, so. sort over the weekend. His girlfriend had him arrested for domestic violence. She posted a photo with a busted lip. So he was arrested for domestic violence charges. I did see the clip of his lawyer in court saying that he was a celebrity and could he get out quicker? And the judge was like, I don't know who you are. I don't know.

I don't know why you thought that would be your strategy. Thano's voice. But yeah. I mean, I don't really have much on this outside of what was reported. I saw that we're all scout on IG today, which is also like a sick thing of where we're at in just society. He's like, I'm out of court and I'm going to do a selfie video. But he said he is completely innocent on everything. Battery and battery by strangulation.

The judge didn't know who he was? I don't believe the judge, but yeah. Why you don't believe the judge? He should have blazed me, Officer William. I used to be a plaintiff here. All right. It's me, Mario. Okay.

Go in the break room. You'll see my photo. You should have showed him his graduation picture. We used to see him. The judge might be like, oh, my man. Come on let him out of here, man. Yeah, you got the Versace shirt on this shit. You just don't know.

Yeah, William. Oh, that's Will. Come on, man. That's a wild thing for a lawyer to say. But again, I haven't seen too many, like, hearings where a lawyer has said, like, oh, my client's a celebrity. Can you get out quicker? Which means you haven't heard many cases.

Every lawyer does that. Yeah. Because they say it's a dangerous, like a safety issue. Okay. Not you should get special treatment because you're a celebrity. That's the main thing they use, like, to help to try to get you out. I've seen that it being a flight risk and then say my client is a celebrity, like he can't be, someone's going to see him.

He's not, I've seen that part before. But I've never seen, we can't have him in a red jumpsuit because he's a celebrity. Like, the fuck that mean. That's what they said. We can't have him in a red jumpsuit. Said he's a celebrity who can't be in a red jumpsuit. It's bad for his image. Well, I mean.

we'll have to see. Again, this is all alleged. You know, you'll have his day in court. And we'll see what comes of it. But he released a, oh, I guess for his lawyer, released a statement on his half. No, he did. He went on Instagram as he walked out.

Oh, he just got out? Okay. So he said, I'm totally innocent of these fabricated allegations made against me. I'll be in Dubai tomorrow, Paris Saturday. And I plan on having a bowl of rigatone with heavy marinerar Sunday. I repeat heavy mariner. Okay.

2026. Oh, I think the red jumpsuit was in a, in alluding to like just safety as far as he can't be in a red jumpsuit, like safety issues. Drawing attention to him. I mean, yeah, I guess if that's what everyone in Dade County wears, does there much difference? Yeah, I don't know about all that, but I mean, we'll see where this entire thing goes, you know, prayers to Jasmah.

And we'll see what this ends up. What? Y'all are funny. Why? Y'all are funny. That's all I love funny. Okay. See, what?

I just said y'all are funny. All right, we could have this conversation. We don't have to. No, I will never be the person that takes a situation as serious as domestic violence to now jump on somebody that I may have disagreements with and make a mockery out of the actual charge and seriousness of what's happening. I know 50 will go do it because that's what 50 does. But no, I've always found that odd whenever there was something and people were going back and forth. And then something serious happens like a domestic violence charge and now it becomes

a back and forth between y'all and not the actual case of domestic violence. For Jasmine's sake, for everyone, I'm not going to make a little jokey jokes and fun shit about this just because I think Rick Ross is corny. No, yeah, I feel you. It's not going to be a time now. Let's try to get one up on Rick Ross because of this. To me, that's nasty. That's nasty.

I mean, what you can in your head think, like, see, God don't play about me. But to like, to make it a thing. What's the death row chick? Me and her, God don't play about us. God don't play. Yeah. So, but yeah, you're right. I mean, that ain't why.

I don't give a fuck. I mean, hopefully jazz is, you know, she's good. And I'm not saying Ross is, you know, guilty. and that's between them it's domestic but obviously they'll have their day in court and lawyers will have to do

what they have to do but I just don't really care about this shit because it's just nobody cares about this for being honest like who really cares about this but mom

we can say that about every single thing on this fucking list but domestic violence we have a lot of data that proves people don't care about that he's not wrong yeah

no for that we have a lot of data that proves people do not give a fuck about that. No, they don't. If he is, if he is found guilty, his career will still, I don't know about flourish, because I don't know if it was flourishing now, but it will continue to do what it was doing previously. Yeah, I don't think this will affect anything that.

If anything, he'll get a bump from the contrarians who love supporting people that they think are being attacked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, look, look what they're doing to this amazing man. Yeah. Like, yeah.

This case is not going to affect the cells of Bel Air. No. Not that anybody's buying that anyway, but. nobody's the trajectory will not go up or not the trajectory you won't we won't see a spike either way either direction from this like it won't happen yeah yeah um demarice you're gonna cop the jesobo jacket that remi had on i would do you think she'll sell them she should people are saying that she's too old for this and she's too corny and my thing is first she's in the entertainment industry and when you're in the entertainment industry you got be a little bit childish for longer than most people your age

like that's part of being an entertainment is corny as it being an entertainer is corny it's number one number two you saying shit about me i got like it's like if somebody call you fat it's like we're crop top like you got to you got to lean into the slander fighting against the arguing people arguing with the commenters and the fans not lean into that shit jesabel i mean made a remix i've seen it worked before like when 50 and cam were going back and forth and cameron was screaming curtis and like had the disc record 50's original out of album title was before I self-destruck, which, yes, eventually did come out. But he pushed that album title because Cameron was screaming Curtis and named his album Curtis.

Yeah. It worked. I mean, I get it, but I just feel like at some point... You shouldn't be wearing a Jezboll jacket? Not a Jezbole chain fire. It's hard? That's hard. I'm not mad at the jacket.

Is Remy single? I don't know if the Millie's thing, I don't know if that was a marketing thing for a record or if that was true. I have no clue. I really don't know. She says she's single. All about to tell, because if I'm her new man that she's now wearing a jacket and the chain that her ex-husband is calling her, as her new man, I would fill away. Okay, I understand that. I think the jacket or the chain, you didn't have to get both.

I think, like, the jacket or the chain would have been fine. If your ex-husband makes a song about you calling you a Jezebel, and you get either one, a jacket or a chain. Like I said, if she's in a relationship, of course not. But if she's single, then it's all a part of it's all. part of the intert. You're taking your real life, which is already all over the fucking world anyway, and making an entertainment. Yeah. I mean, if she's single, she could, you know, I'm just saying if she wasn't and I'm her man, it would be a conversation in that house. She walked in with a chain that

says Jezebel on it. I told you, I would have had an issue when we brought up the hypothetical with Larry, Jeney and Big Sean. I'd have an issue if you dedicating an album to dissing your ex and I'm with you. Yeah. A jacket and chain? See, I still disagree with you. I think that that's Like, if the album sounds like whimsical whimsy, I mean, West Side Whimsie, nigga, you got to just let that come out. Like, I don't get fuck how you chill. Just lie to me, said you wrote it at that time and you don't feel that way. Cool.

But if she was walking around with a jacket, no, that's a little odd. But, I mean, I don't know. It's all promo. What did you guys think of Remy's song? I didn't hate it the way the internet did. I didn't love it. I didn't hate it. Well, isn't she singing on it? No, that was a Kiki White.

I think she might have calmed a little bit. She was. She was. I mean, listen, it was. I wasn't mad at the record if you take Jezebel out of the context. It immediately became a response to Jezebel. And to me, that was not a proper response. Yeah, it didn't live up to what Jezebo was. But if you take that out, then the record's not terrible. but not

it doesn't she should have held that it doesn't compare to the greatest song of 2026 oh please hate but when

can I all right at what point does this stop though you always ask that no because

if it continues yeah y'all yeah so love each other what's up man I ain't even gonna get into that because this is y'all way

this is y'all way and communicate no tea no shit y'all might as well be in text message y'all might as will be texting each other this shit mm-hmm

Like, to me, that's just, this is just y'all communicating, getting your shit off, expressing your emotions, like saying all the things you feel like when unsaid. Like, that's what this is. So just because you put a beat underneath it and their rhymes don't mean that it's not you and your ex still communicating and having some type of dialogue with each other. True. But then also on the rapper side of everything, Pat did say that Remy didn't write her rhymes. So now it becomes a rapper thing too.

now I got to reply in that that way but I mean I don't like know pap personally like that but I don't see him carrying this on like that I think he said his piece with Jezbo I don't think he's he's gonna do a back and forth I can't see it but I could be wrong I just don't think pap I think he got everything he needed out on that record because even when shit was going crazy with the easy-to-block captain and remi on stage with him and who was a goods was a goods that had the verse that was about I can't remember. I think it was good. That had a whole verse about the situation with Papu's Easy and Remy.

Like, Paps stayed quiet through that whole entire thing. So if he was on that type of time where it's like, let's drag something out for the purpose of attention. Papp would have done it then. Yeah. Because he had every right in the world to do it at that point. And I think this record, he said, what did you say? And I can't see him giving this more, more air. I hope not, man.

I hope this is it and just, you know, but everybody moves on and is happy in their newfound relationships, newfound love. Obviously, they have children together, right? They have more than one. Yeah. So, you know, obviously, you know, still got a co-parent and be parents to, you know, to the children. So, you know, you want to see things. They've one child together, but I mean, I know they have a blended family.

Yeah. Yeah. They still family, they still family, no matter what. You know, family, family fuse. We know that. Family go through it. Nobody wins when a family feels. Right.

There you go. I just think Papp has to be quiet because I'm really not trolling here. I really think he has in this new era of rap a top 15 disc record. Top 10 disc record of all time of this era, this era. There's not that many in this era. We just had. We just had 15 songs between Drake and. That's why I'm like, I ain't listening to Rory ass, man.

What do you mean? It's not that many. What's better? Jezabelle or the, the, uh, Tupac AI song. No, I'm going with Tupac A.I. So, my God. I do think y'all are gassing

Jezebel a little bit. That's Rory. I think it's funny, though. I think Jezebel is funny, but I also think y'all don't pay attention to Jezebel if it doesn't. He's like, nah, Jezebel is great. I'm like, if Papuos released Jezebel before his breakup or Remy, y'all would have paid that song, no mind.

It wouldn't have existed. Yeah, he needed the integration. The context of the song is about the breakup. Yeah, he needed that. He needed to go through that so he can give us that. You know what I think was. interest. Actually, never mind. Well, go ahead. No. I remember we had

a conversation about how like sometimes I need like women in the room to have certain conversations like this isn't the audience or the platform. Like, it makes sense because y'all wouldn't understand what I was about to say. Well, all right, what's I said? I was about to comment on. Remy had a couple songs, I mean a couple lines and she's spoken about like

people paint her out to be this horrible person and this villain because Papp was painted as like the greatest husband of all time, holding her down in jail and all it is. And she just kind of regrets the image that she helped build up of, yes, this is the greatest husband of all time and hit his flaws. So now it's biting her and her ass, her painting her husband out to be perfect when in reality he was not, these are not bar for bar, but basically her words.

And I was just thinking if other women in this room, I could have that conversation of sometimes we do do that. Like, we don't tell the bad that the men in our lives do to us. We just pipe them up like they're the greatest because we want that image. And then like. That goes both ways, though. Yeah, I'm sure it does. Yeah, that goes both ways. But I understand what you're saying to what Remy said. Yeah, I get that. Like she made it seem like, you know, her husband was the greatest and no flaws.

I mean, all of us have flaws. Yeah. So we understand that part. But Papp is saying the same in Jezebel. He's kind of alluding to that same sentiment of, you wasn't the best wife. You know what I'm saying? You wasn't the best partner. You wasn't the best, like, he's alluding to that as well.

I'm saying. It goes both ways, you know what I mean? But I'm just, you know, on the side, once you have family, once you have children, it just has to, you got to be very careful of how far things go because at the end of the day, again, it's still family here. We still, we still have to see each other. We still have to communicate on some level. So you don't want things to go too far. You know what I mean? You don't want too many things to be said to where you can't unhear the person saying that,

expose information that the family didn't know about you know, it gets very sticky when you start doing that. So hopefully, you know, this is the end of this and, you know, both of them shot the pat, set out the rim. And hopefully, you know, they just go their separate ways and, you know, continue to take care of the family. Yeah.

Purr's. I'm going to put together that modern disc record list for y'all and properly placed Jezabel where it needs to go. Oh, you still, you still see. from that. Seathing. No, because I started. That's still sitting with you?

No, no, no. Is that still sitting? We want to unpack it. Rory, go ahead. Let's unpack it. Where does Jezebel stand in the last 10 years? No, it had my mind moving with that list because I think that'd be an interesting list because I could be wrong of where Jezabelle is. Like I put, um, I put that dream doll, Tori Lanes disc super high in modern disc records.

I can't remember that. But I can't remember how that sounds. Yeah, I'm just trying to think of modern ones. like. He said he had Beijing all in his legs. All in her legs. And I'm not saying that this era can't compare to the last or whatever, but I think you'd be surprised how like little amount of great disc records have been in this outside of

Drake Meek, Drake Kendrick. Like there hasn't been a lot of great beefs in that capacity. Yeah. I know what you did, guys. Some of that shit we got during the whole. Joey Badass that whole run There's a lot of records

That y'all definitely gassed in the moment Yeah I went back and listened to some of the moms I did a lot of this shit Okay Did it out But I sometimes That's actually a really good point

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that In the moment That it's happening Like this is great We're all focused on this moment Looking back Looking back Even like the whole New York City

versus upstate New York Like we got a lot of terrible bars and that that we're going to go back to in a couple of years. But I don't think anyone gassed that one the way they did, but the Joey Badass. No, no, definitely not. But I think Joey, the town, I think, was the, I mean, to me, that holds up. Is that the one he shot outside the crib?

I don't think he did the video. The one with, um, with Lux on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't think we get that. That one is, stands to test the time for sure. My town. My town. But, no, of course, in the moment, like, there's no disrespect to anyone that was

rap. I don't like run back to those records like I do with a lot of disc records. But in the moment, yeah, let's get like I can't wait to hear what daylight has to say. In the moment, it had a little more attraction to it. But you could say that about a lot of like mixtape era beefs and like not every disc record was Jada kiss checkmate. Like there's a there was a lot of. Yeah, no, but, but to what you're saying, a lot of those records in that era of the mixtapes, like you can still go back to a lot of those. Because it was a different level of rapping.

Sure. You get what I'm saying? I even think like the Miss Jackson shit that Jada Kiss and Stiles P. did holds up more than most. Exactly. You see what I'm saying?

But you hate like you hate 300 bars and running and you couldn't tell me and my friends that wasn't the greatest shit. It's not that I hate it. It's just too much. It's like bro, come on. Like you still rapping. Like I can't

my brain can't retain all of that shit. Yeah. I don't remember what you said the last 112 bars. I cannot. What did you say? I can't quote a single bar. But there was still like even 50 doing stop snitch and stop line.

Like there was so many random records in there that we hyped up that like now you're like, I mean, I'm not. That wasn't that. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. No disrespecting none of these emcees, but it's just like a lot of those. In the moment, that was so much fun. In the moment, absolutely. In the moment it made sense, it just didn't age well and it didn't stand the test of time.

That's all. Yeah. I hear you all. All right, Rory. We got some new. music tonight. Yes. If you're listening right now, we have Cuevo Chrome Life, completely produced by Farrell. I did see, do you see the clip of him, Justin Simberlake, them on a fucking yacht recording snippet sounded good. Yeah. I'm excited. Again, I wasn't the

biggest fan of the first single. It started to grow on me. But I'm, I'm excited for a Feral Quavo project. Like, I'm genuinely looking forward to this, this album. Yeah, anytime you can get Farrell music and then somebody who's obviously had success making records like Quavo. You want to hear what they did. Stir fry is a classic song of me. So I can't think that it would be bad for them to make music together. It makes a lot of sense for them to make music together. Absolutely.

And while we're here just quickly, I love that the colors take off in Quabo has become such an iconic thing. I hope that made the streams go up for that record from Unc and Neff. you, but can we stop wasting water with AI? And we all don't need to be that. There doesn't need to be me and mall rapping like them and doing the dance. Let's please save some water. Yeah. The trend can be over. And it's also in bad taste because one of them is no longer here. Yeah. I was on the side that if that had the streams go up with that record because of it, great. If they saw more money for it, I'm with it. But I think we've wasted enough water with putting ourselves as them. I don't need to see.

you and your man's doing that anymore. Well, I'm just happy that offset in Quava are in a better space now. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? Like, that's, I think that would have been, you know, it's very unfortunate for them to not reconcile and not, you know, even though we kind of felt like they would eventually. Yeah, but it was going through what they went through. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? It's like you don't want to see that. So I'm just happy to know that those two are, you know, on better terms. Yeah. And I mean, I know obviously Cuevo and Takeoff were already recording their next project before Takeoff's death. I know there's a lot of music that, if done correctly, Amigo's album, I think they have enough stuff where we could get a proper Amigos album that wouldn't feel super weird because Takeoff is not here. So I would like to see that. But first and foremost, obviously them being on good terms is what matters the most.

Yeah, Quay will say, it eased it a little bit. It threw out all the things that I was upset about or that we had friction about. It was enough for me to say, all right, cool, whatever you're going through, I'll go through it with you. Me and losing my brother, it can't get no tougher than that. Yeah. Yeah. In reference to reconcile and after takeoff past. Yes.

Yeah. Because when shit like that happens, you look around and be like, what the fuck are we really? Like, what the fuck are we really beefing about here? Yeah, when you go through something like that, like you really start to put just life and everything in perspective. Like, what are we beefing about? Why did I not speak to you in a few months? Yeah.

Like, the shit is stupid. You know what I'm saying? Like, you start to, I mean, they literally experienced exactly how fragile life is. You know what I'm saying? So it's, you know, anything you're going through with somebody you truly love, that's your family. It's more times than none, it's not worth it. It's not worth losing the connection, losing the relationship.

losing the relationship, losing the love, letting business especially this this fuck-ass business get in between, you know, family. Like it's just not worth it. He had a really good interview. You guys should go check out with the wonderful young Miami, Carisha, who is very good at her job. And he, you know, opened up just about growing. He sounds like he's grown a lot about, you know, that relationship as far as like he has

kids now and just like maturing throughout his career. So yeah he sounds like sounds like he's in a different place and that's what's up. I saw him and Gina put up a clip too. Did they do an interview? I didn't see that probably though. He probably went on effective immediately. Well offset is on the song away. Um, so we will hear them together for the first time and a very long time. Look at this. How much gallons of water? Oh, they, they, they have. actually recreated it. All right, see. Oh, that's dope.

Thank God. That's dope. That's cute. And they're dropping on the same day. Victoria Monet. Yes. Victoria Monet and Quaver are dropping on the same day. Frequency of love.

Yes. Oh, we're going to be fed. I got like the two good albums. The party shit and the, you know, love shit. I'm ready. That's what's up. Yeah, for sure. Who also dropping this weekend?

FOMO is going to be on streaming. We're also getting Mac Miller, the Divine Feminine, 10-year anniversary. It's been 10 years. One of my favorite albums are all time. That album is a classic. So they're doing it deluxe. I'm not sure if it's songs from that time. But like balloonism obviously was recorded like six years before they put it out. So I'm sure there was a lot of records like on the cutting room floor from that era.

So I hope it's a good amount. Oh, I like that. I see what's going on. Victoria and Cuevo did a video together. They're both dropping. Yeah, I think that's cool. Quavo did something with Young Miami and we were her she's dropping something

She's putting out two records 2008 and fuck you And then she has Yeah she just released her albums Well just announced her albums coming to

23rd So October gonna be I like that I like that Marketing and cross Promotion Doing content together Our albums or

songs are dropping the same day I think that that's dope I think that that's smart and dope Also did you guys hear the snippets For Young Mammie

Obviously it's out Now everyone that's Listening But we haven't heard It just Just the snippets Fuck You sounds cool she's just remaking the yo gaudy and mc mill

fucky record i'm sure that'll work like you can't go wrong with that beat um in 2008 she felt like jeezy in 2008 yeah i like both those snippets from her um also getting a russ single uh already lenox deluxe there's a lot of good music a lot of good music coming out um

also the tyler uh remix to girls um i forgot i forgot the gentleman's name from compton who does that record. That leaked yesterday, but it's going to be on DSPs. And that sounded really good. Little Goat D3. Yeah, he has a song called Girls that's fire.

And Tyler put like a three-minute verse on it. I love how Tyler is just hopping on anything he fuck with. He's not gatekeeping himself. Like, he's not threatened by anything. He's just hopping on shit that he like. Not everything has to be a super moment. If he likes the song, he'll get on the record. Yeah.

I think that that's fire because there aren't a lot of people of his caliber and his fame doing that. And I think that's Tyler one of his superpowers. He's very accessible. Like he's never tried to alienate himself that I could remember too much. You see Tyler in the most random of places hanging out, chilling. Like he's always been that person. So, you know, this is who he is.

He's done an extremely good job. I think like maybe only the weekend has done it better in this era of, being accessible and still being seen, but no one really knowing too much about you. We still argue to this day, is he gay or straight? We don't even know that. But you'll see Tyler outside,

but you know nothing about his personal life. That's an art to be able to get that off at the level of success and fame that he has. Not that I care, but is he gay? I think based off being a Tyler fan and everything he's rapped about, I can come to the conclusion that he is bisexual because I've heard him rap about fucking men and women.

So, yeah, what was that bar? He got off on flex and flex was like, I don't know why you would choose that. Like, why would you? Yeah, like, bucking necks and rough sex. Sex with a rough neck. Me and flex in the index looking for. Yeah, flex was like, why would you? For some hot butt sex.

Yeah, flex was like, why would you? Why would you go with that line? That's the reaction. Like, why would you? And then why would you make me a part of that? Like, I don't know. That's not what I'm looking for. For buff neck.

niggas just let me see for some hot butt sex yeah buff neck niggas just for some hot butt sex yeah me and flex looking in the index for buff neck niggis just for some hot butt sex yeah flex was like i don't we get the video on that i'm not that's not what i'm doing i've never done that child i've never looked in the index for roughnecks for hot butt sex i've never that's fucking hilarious it's funny as shit though classic this is a classic flex was so confused that's funny a shit that's funny a You gotta find just a Twitter one. Yeah, you have to find it. Not the whole.

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Oh, he's about to get some bullshit. So I'm 35, right? And my girl, 25. So I'm figuring, like, I'm liking how this is going. You know, the 10-year age gap is actually cool. I actually fuck with it. You know, I'm kind of done dating women in their 30s. Like, you know, you got to deal with the pain of other guys.

and all this other kind of shit. You know, you get a girl and, you know, they made twins. You know, they let's fuck up. That's what I like to feel. I could be wrong. Don't kill me demers. Hear me out. Right.

He knew what was coming. Look, he knew. I think I might be fucked up because I'm kind of used to a little debauchery. And, you know, everything's working out. We've been together for like a year. We probably had like one argument, yo. And this is what's letting me know that I might be the one that's fucked up. Because, you know, everything is cool.

I'm just fucking bored. Like, is it me? Should I just be, you know, live my life with peace? I don't know if I'm probably I'm just not used to peace. But like, what do y'all think? I could be fucked up. Let me know if I'm fucked up. Wait, what was the issue though?

Yeah, I got this. They had the argument, right? He's bored. He's bored in his relationship? I mean, okay, it's a 10-year age gap. How are you bored with a 25 year old woman? I thought he was about to say like, I can't keep up. Yeah, like I've never heard I'm bored with a 25 year old woman.

It sounds like he's, I wouldn't say addicted to chaos like he was trying to to lose to it. I think he's comfortable in chaos. Yeah. And he's confused on why this is healthy. Right. And he finds boredom in a healthy relationship. Oh, he's toxic.

Yeah. No, that's really what he's. He's toxic. Or he's used to being in a relationship that brings the toxicity out of him. and that's just the environment we now live in. Well, I respect him because he did say maybe he's the one that's fucked up. So, you know, I got to respect that because he's not taking himself out of it. He's not ruling himself out of being the problem.

So, okay, maybe that's exactly what it is. But I just don't, a 25-year-old woman, I just... Well, I mean, how much can a 25-year-old complain about it? You give them food and water. Like, there's really not... It's just like food water... Put a roof over their head. And a charger for their phone.

Like, what more than a 25-year-old? take him to Sephora, get a new lip gloss here and there. I'm like, what's the problem? I just don't understand. That's the most, a 25-year-old woman. She's just excited she can rent a car now. Yeah, like, bro, you don't, I can see why he don't want to deal with no 30-year-old women. They running that nigga through the ringer.

The clock is on. Yeah, like 35-year-old woman. I don't have time to waste. Yeah, I get it. But yeah, I don't know what advice he's looking for, but, you know. I mean, there is no. advice in it. It's just you need to realize that you enjoy toxic shit and that's something you need to work out internally. Like it's okay to have a healthy, calm relationship. The fact that you find

that boring means you need to find like fun activities within your healthy relationship. That's a good problem. What say you, baby Dee? You guys covered it just so well. You know, he was calling for y'all. He don't want to have. No, he brought, he didn't bring us up. He said, don't kill me, baby Dee. He said, don't kill me. He said, you know, he said he knew you was already going to be on some, you know, like this nigga, you know, they know you. They know you. They know when they're about to say something that's going to trigger you and trigger a certain reaction out of you. They know. I'm just chilling. He said it's easier to date 25 year olds. Let him date 25 year old. Yeah. I mean, listen. I'm sure the women his age don't want him anywhere. Don't do that.

What? You don't know that. If a man sits up here says, I don't like dating 30 women in their 30s because I have to deal with the damage from other guys and it's just they just require too much and 25 year olds are just easier. It's like when people say they don't like that and black women, they prefer white women. You know what? Go for who you want. Them the people that deserve you agree. Go who you want. He'd prefer to be the damage in a woman's life than to have to fix the damage in their lives. He wants to inflict that for the next 30 year old. The crazy thing is what people claim is damage and baggage is just standards that come from. experience that people don't want to deal with.

Yeah. Boundaries. Boundaries and standards. I agree. 24, 23, 25 year olds don't really have them yet. They're on their way, but they don't really have them yet. A 25 year old woman standards is not a 35 year old woman standard. No, not at all.

It's not, it's different standards. Like, it's not the same. So if you think that this 20 year board of her. Like him saying, like, am I the problem? Like, do I have the issue? Like a 35 year woman going to be like, yes, you have a fucking issue. you might want to figure that out. And they're going to require you to figure it out,

a 25-year-old, not so much. If you're bored with a 25-year-old woman, you ain't going to be bored with a 35-year-old woman. You ain't got time to be bored. That figures are down. Yeah, it's shit around the house that need to be fixed. Like, stop telling me that Bannister is wobbly, nigga. Like, screw, tighten it.

You got YouTube tutorials. Figure it to fuck out. Yeah, stop telling me that the bathroom needs paint. Painted, nigga. Yeah, that's a, you can be bored with a third-old. She's been through five apartments already. That 25 year old just left her mom's house.

It's a lot of shit to do. Autumn dreams and shit. They're like, yeah, you know, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. Shit, I want to do 35 year old looking at you like, when you're going to start moving? Shit. It's an accountability that comes with when you're,

same thing when you're talking to older people. Like, older people are going to hold you more accountable. Like, yeah. It's, you can't, you can, people are not easily manipulated as they get older. It's case by case basis, of course. But sometimes I think it can be easier to date the 35 year old woman with boundaries because she'll be very clear on what it is. And if you meet it.

sky's the limit and she's a joy to be around. Of course there's some women that have impossible boundaries and that can get annoying. But usually a sane 35 year old woman will have boundaries that yes, a 25 year old will not have if you're just looking for some easy shit. But if you just meet a short checklist, that 35 year old will do anything for you. Yeah. I thought baby dude was going to say, I would like to know at what age was he introduced to porn. No, it's just, I just, you know, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, what is his relationship like with his grandmother?

I just, I just see shit. With his great aunt once removed. What is his relationship like with his sister? Because everything stems from a deep, and this is what happens when you get into your 30s and realize that everything stems from somewhere. And if this is coming up in this area of our life, it's going to, this same issue in a different font is going to come up in a different area of our life, which he just explained, oh, I don't feel like, like all of his shit goes together. You got the 25-year-old and now I'm bored. You have a

problem. Like the problem is not the 30-something-year-old woman. You have a problem. But to his credit, he said that he's probably, he may think that it's probably, self-awareness is key, but if you don't use it to become better, then what is it? I can't give him too much shit because he kind of was like, maybe I'm the problem. Am I the drama? I'm just like, how can you not have fun the 20 they've never seen anything before yeah you're showing them restaurants for the first time they've never even seen that take it up brookin shop house they've seen miami and that's as like far as it go 25 yos love miami boy miami to the 25 yos like mekinose you ever see the first time a girl go to miami well i don't know about this era at 20

when i was 25 yes yeah this era at this era i don't know at 18 they was over there yeah they fucking these niggas they they they on private jets yeah these streamers. It's rough, man. Speaking to stream. Yeah, the new 25, real. Hey, hey, hey, hey. We're talking about streamers.

Yeah. Do we have another voice? Please, Lord. What up, Pod? This is your boy's fourth quarter. I be in the live with Josh and Tom's. Been a day one, you know,

pod listening. So shout to the crew. Roy Maude. And of course, you know, the incomparable baby D. Incomparable. Incomparable. So here's my question.

I'm around like Maul's age, probably like a couple years younger. So I do have a long-term relationship a couple, like about a year or half ago. On my birthday, I'd go see my sister and my brother-in-law, I guess, tries to call himself playing matchmaker or something. And he asked me, what's the youngest girl I would date? So I said the conventional wisdom I heard was half your age plus seven. So I said that would put her at about 28. And the look of horror, it came across my sister. his face was like, oh, that's over a decade and she's not going to know anything about the

90s. And I'm like, I don't care about none of that. So my question to y'all is, number one, am I crazy for that? I don't think I am. Number two, what are y'all like dating rules as far as like age wise goes? And number three, have you had any like positive or negative experiences, you know, either way? You know, I think worry must be like, what, like maybe 36 or something? Nailed it. Yeah, I'm, like I says, I'm around, around Maw's age, but I don't know what y'all think, so let me know. Well, he's that he's 39 because he said 28, and then his sister said that's over a decade. So it's got to be 39 years.

39-year-old to 28? I think he's like 41. Yeah, he's like 41. I think he's like 42. Oh, I thought you were 42. So that's why I landed on that. He's 45. We made fun of him for it.

You are? Yo. Not been Kevin. You got some things you want to talk about? My bet. I'm going to turn these cameras off and start start shaking. Well, yeah, I think, I don't know.

40-something with 28-year-old, it depends the 28-year-old. It depends which 28-year-old. Yeah. It depends on the type of 28-year-old you're talking about. Because you can meet a very mature, very, you know, some 28-year-old women are not still into the same things that they probably should be into,

which is hanging out, going out every night, you know, doing those things that you probably wouldn't want your lady doing if you're a 42-year-old man. But I mean, I just don't know.

I just don't know if dating a 28-year-old when you're in your 40s is, in this era of 28-year-olds is... Seriously dating. Let's make that clear. Because if having fun with a 28-year-old, 28-year-olds are fun. Yeah, you could...

A ball of fun. Yeah, you can knock them down, but, you know, as far as, like, really trying to lock in and build something. I don't know. I just think there's plenty of women in their 30s that are great candidates that, you know, are great women.

And I just think we're in a different era where there's more people single without kids in their 30s than there ever was before. I think people go out and do nightlife things way later than the generation before them. So, I mean, I don't know there's anything wrong being 42 and being out in the same place as a 28-year-old. I think it just depends.

the 28-year-old that you're talking to if you want to have relationship. Yeah. So, I mean, to his question, though, what do you all do's and don'ts with the age thing? Half plus seven. I've never heard that before, but that's an interesting theory. I've definitely heard that. Yeah, I've heard that before, too. I don't know who came up with that.

Let me be clear. I never know. I don't know where that originated. I don't know who did the math on that. I've never looked into that, but I've definitely heard half your age plus seven. I've definitely heard that. And then he asked, have we had any good or bad experiences with dating young women? To Demarice's point, I never seriously dated a woman that was that much younger than me.

I've had fun and, you know, had some amazing, amazing times. But seriously dated? No, nothing, nothing younger than 30 have I ever seriously dated? I've for 99% of my dating life either dated my same age, year older, year younger. My child's mother is the youngest I've dated and we have five year difference. That's the youngest I've ever dated. I never really did like the younger. There was always so many women my age that were around me that.

Not to seriously date. Yeah, not seriously. No, no. And even like casually date. Yeah, it was usually around my age, two years younger, two years older, one year younger and one year older. But I don't, and I'm not that on like some judgy shit. I don't think there's anything wrong if you want to be 42 and date a 28 year old. If you guys are compatible.

No, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, we've seen some of our favorite celebrities do it and they're living happily ever after. So it can work. It just depends on the type of, you know, person we're talking about. Yeah, but I get his sister's point. She knows nothing about the night. Like, what are y'all going to talk about? I think that's a fair question to ask people that do date super younger.

But if you could find somebody that it works, all right, I just don't think there's a high percentage rate that you guys are going to have a lot to talk about. Again, depending on the type of person we're talking about. What is this person into? What is their lifestyle? What do they, you know, what do they do? Like, what are they into? What are their morals?

What are their beliefs? What is their family structure like growing up? Like how they, how were they raised? Let's, uh... Because 28 is not super young. But it's like, you know, you can meet a 28-year woman that's like, that really got her shit together. Like, damn, like, she really got her shit together.

So you, so that's the thing. So I think, and I think that's what people get caught up in is, and I'm not against age gaps in day. And I've dated somebody 10 years older than me before. But I feel like, yes, you can have your shit together. But there's some things that only life experience and time can teach you. Like about becoming, exactly, but about especially like knowing who you are as a woman, that only time can teach you that. So you can be as mature as you want to be.

But there's some things like you just need time to experience. You need a certain amount of years in a relationship or out of a relationship. Like it's just, it's so much that comes with it. I just don't, I, the 28 year old women that I have come into contact with were learning themselves. They were almost there, but they didn't really, you don't really know. Things a father can't teach. Let's make it real for funzies. What would be the age cutoff where if I brought a girl in here, you guys would judge me?

You're 36 right now? I'm 36 years old. Anybody in their 20s. Damn. 29. Y'all talk behind my back when we left like, damn. I'm not going to talk about you behind you back. If we were walking in here with Tyler right now, you think I'm going to

like, yo, you tripping. Yes. Ew, Tyler's like 24. And you think I'm going to look at Roy like he tripping? No, I am. Yeah, she's exactly 24. You know what's so funny? But that's in celebrity.

So she's like 34. When Tyler first came out, the first thing I text Roy was that girl bad, but I can't look at her for too long because she's too young. We both said the same thing. I said she's too young. I can't. I don't even feel right looking at her. But now she's 24. How old is Coil-Lory?

Coil-Lay. I think Coil is like the age. I think Coe's like 30. she just playfully plays into that porn I look like a child thing it's 29 I thought she was I thought she was old on What?

Was definitely a coy boy for sure Oh that's what I call The people that like it That's what they call it Call them coy boys That's too close to soy boys He's about to get the coyfish tattoo for her

That's your girl If I walk in there with coil away I'm tripping I wouldn't judge you Maybe they judge her I'll see her eyes. You got judging eyes. Maul looks youthful, though. He does look younger than what he is.

And whenever I say that, he looked young. Yeah, no. That's crazy. That's so fucked up. Yeah, but he don't look. Like if Moore looked like a 45-year-old, I'd be like, that's a little weird. I wouldn't care if baby to judge me, I walk in here with Coil-A, right? He wouldn't care.

I mean, if you want to date somebody 16 years younger than you and that's the type of relationship that you want, then that's how you. Hell, yeah. with Nate Corley, right? Okay. How would you deal with Benzino being your father-in-law? I don't fuck with her son. She don't fuck with her.

Oh, yeah, that's true. Oh, y'all can buy it over that? Yeah, we're probably buying it. Yeah, yeah. Like, come on, you come to my house, Thanksgiving, the old trip. I think I'm done dating people younger than me. My most serious relationship was with somebody that was younger than me,

but I think I'm done with that. But you haven't done that often? No, I haven't done often. But, yeah, that was my most serious relationship. It was only like two, three years younger, but no matter how mature they are, it can tell. I feel like it's more obvious with men, though, because men take a little bit longer to grow than women. That's what I'm saying. If I got coming here with 29-year-old course, she really like 35 mentally.

No, it's just you really like 39 mentally. It ain't that she's really like 20. She's not older mentally. You're younger mentally. I'm younger mentally? That's why I said men grow a little bit slower than women. So you would be younger mentally You see

You're not comprehending what I'm saying Yeah You're a little slow So what peach? Pige are you're growing not a shower With age is crazy You don't show your passport You really are growing not a shower

How you know that? I'm talking about what's your age You don't look your age I thought you're doing something else Oh what's dope Come on bro That's what I was like how you know that What's it?

I went to No he's a shower not a grower because he doesn't look his he shows younger he's not growing no no right what were you saying it's reversed in that way no

I was somewhere the other day and I did I deed me to get in the dude at the door was like no way he's like no way that's your older brother's like yeah he's like no way where you was at some restaurant in the city but it's like a bar

yeah like a bar so you got IDI everybody getting in he was like no way I was like, yes way. I move out of my way. All right, well, this was fun. As long as it's consensual, just, you know. Have consensual fun.

Yeah. Date who you want to date. But some people may look at you weird if you're 40. As long as it's half your age plus seven. That's the law. That's the law. Wait, what's half my age plus seven? How old am I?

You 31, right? That's a great question for me. 24? I think 24. Because the little nigger from a different world is adorable. He 26. Oh, you can hit that. You can hit that, baby, D.

Oh, don't say hit that. That's. What? In case I wanted to get to know the young gentleman. I was just saying. Y'all never want to get to know these niggas. Y'all have been posting clips of this nigga for the last nine days. Don't nobody, did nobody ask how his mental health?

I'm wondering how it's mental health. I am. No, you're not. No, you're not. But even then I was sent up there, like, when I was looking and saying, oh my god that's such a beautiful little boy i'm like in my head i'm like he's too he's 26 he too i feel beautiful little boy you're only four years older than him but i feel creepy i'm six years older than him you 32 yeah oh i didn't know that other baby he's like 30 31 still i know it's not really

showing at my face you know oh no no tiler was born after 9-11 no way that's that's 100% yeah Fuck the arithmetic, Pemdos carrying the one. If you're born after 9-11, stay far the fuck away from me. No, but that's what you can teach her about so she never forget. Ew. She's just showing her clips. So she never forget.

Show her. She can't remember something she wasn't there for it. No, I say show her so she'll never forget. You got to show her the document. 9-11 is a show or not a grower. It's a new great document. Having to explain Fair and High 11 is somebody. Like, because I got to explain what happened,

the conspiracy theories. I have to explain Fahrenheit to her as well. Oh, yeah. That was a good one. Good job. You made a joke. That was good. All right.

All right. Oh, shit. I forgot we got Patreon, right? Yeah. I forgot it was Thursday. My bad. But with that math, it's 25 for me. Sometimes, yo.

25 for me. I just, I just did the math. You could do that. You could do that. You could do Tyler. Hey, yo. That's it. No, you could date Tyler's what I'm saying.

Not do it. Yeah. I understand. I don't think she wants to date me. No, no, no, I'm just saying. If you walked in the studio with Tyler, I wouldn't, like, text to Maris on the side of him, like, yo, he tripping.

I wouldn't do that. That's how you know he'd be doing that about other shit? Because, like, why you even thought, what I even popped up? No, because I wouldn't say it. I wouldn't make Tyler uncomfortable. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't say that.

Because, you know, kids are censors. Yeah, yeah. So you can't say that in front of Tyler. You know what I heard her feelings. Yeah, she's fucking. And all that. All right, we're going to Patreon. Talk to y'all soon.

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