No Jumper - 051 Kiddo's First Interview Home, J Mane vs O Block, Rico Recklezz & Billionaire Dissing Him & More

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Kiddo talks about getting into it while doing time, Billionaire Black, FBG Duck, Durk, Rooga, and more. ----- Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month ...   / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here today with my man, Rimo, and you know we had to have a sit down with the legend himself, 0-5-1 kiddo, fresh up out the joint. I know that. Shout right big as all. How you feeling, dog?
Starting point is 00:00:15 I'm going just fine. How long have you been free for it? Two, three weeks? Two weeks. Two weeks. You still getting used to it, or how are you feeling? It's crazy. I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I don't know what's going on. Yeah? Okay. What was the situation that got you, locked up again this time around. I really can't speak upon the case because it's the opinion. Okay. But they did some illegal shit.
Starting point is 00:00:40 GMUL for some shit that I didn't have nothing to do with. Really? I'm bro. So it's like I just got to roll with the punches game. Uh-huh. I'm cheap. I'm just carrying on to this shit over with. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:00:55 What, uh, so what was it like to go back in after? Because you, previously, did what, eight years or I forget exactly how long that? Ten years. So what was it like getting this nice taste of freedom for like a year or so and then having to go sit down again? I was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Like I was living. I was cold and like, I want doing no stupid shit. I ain't no crash out dumbing, you know. I know how to think. I know how to move. I don't be doing duck shit. I don't just be in a way. Just be doing anything.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Just be doing hell now. So you were making a sincere effort to stay out of trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But then getting locked up, though, what was it like in terms of just having to go back to that life after all these years away from it? I don't know, like, I adjusted that shit quick as hell, though.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Like, someone I stepped in that bit. So I had quit the next day, so when I went to court, they told me what they told me. I had to go back to NRC. You know, that's just to see, like, what they're going to do. They're going to resume my parole to violate me. I sat in our seat for, like, two months. They violate me, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So you had to wait for two months to even find that out? Yeah. To even see the parole board. That's how it is. They'd be procrastinate because you got to go through a penirinary hearing. Then you got to go to the parole. Yeah, the parole boy, I'm chief. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And so those two months waiting for, for them to tell you that? Like, how was that? Because it's got to be, like, a different feeling being in there and knowing how long you're going to be there versus being in there and having no idea. It's fucked up in Stateville, and I'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's fucked up. Like, you don't go outside at all. They be canceling y'all like one. And I see, like, I don't know. That shit has a f***ed up experience. I was sad to see him now. Really? Going through it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 What was the hardest part? about doing the bid this time being famous that's it like you just famous in jail then when you you go to jail you actually like see who that for you yeah and that shit that should that should bring you down if a month's not that for you if you expect them to be though you're going on a time but um i'll be cool and though you know i roll with the punches as long as i got my bitch and she was deaf of me that's all that matter but being famous in there is it more good are more bad because on one hand, some of the guards probably f***ing with you, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 They, they, the other inmates probably are kind of fanned out and shit, at least some of them. But then some of them probably are like, no, we got to get him. Oh, gee. That's how I'd be, though, for real. Yeah. That's how I'd be. I'm chee. You got some COs that's going to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You got COs that's not going to f*** with you. You got niggas who chasing that shit. You got niggas who genuinely f*** with you, like besides being fans. And you got them fan that. That, niggas, niggas. You know, but I ain't wrong being a fan. It depends on how you carry yourself, though. Like, a lot of fans, they don't be carrying their self accordingly.
Starting point is 00:04:11 They just be on go. Like, I don't know. That shit be getting everything sometime. Right. Because, I mean, you've been having people that you don't get along with, but during your time that you were out, you were obviously making all this music and dissing certain people. Dissing everybody. So I'm sure that some of the people you were locked up with felt the need to make an issue
Starting point is 00:04:31 out of that? No, not necessarily. Not really? Niggas be chasing that shit. Really? Niggas don't be knowing what's going on for real. I don't be paying to that to these niggas you can on them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm chief. Okay. So, like, what did they actually give you after those two months when you finally go to the parole board or whatever? What would they tell you, like, how long you were going to have to do? They come up for all the time and time. And have 365 days that I have to do. Plus, like, a couple weeks. And so now.
Starting point is 00:05:03 what's your situation in terms of you're still on parole or probation or other? I ain't no parole. I ain't no probation. So you're totally a free man now? I'm free, but I got cases pending. Oh, okay. Is this the same video? Because it was like a video or Dad's Body Cam footage video and like you in the cop car?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. Is that from the same time when you got locked up? Yeah, same situation. All right, because they said you were like, like, Kankakee or something. Yeah. How far is Kankakee key from Chicago? like 58 minutes
Starting point is 00:05:38 whatever we're going to in the way doing the dash I'll make it down like a 45 mm-hmm is that considered the suburbs
Starting point is 00:05:45 of Chicago hell yeah that's the suburbs don't should be going on the game okay we were driving
Starting point is 00:05:51 when we were in Chicago we drove like 20 minutes offside Chicago and everybody's telling us like just so you know
Starting point is 00:05:55 this this is the suburbs yeah the birds anything that's 30 minutes away from
Starting point is 00:06:01 Chicago yeah that's the birds Right. Don't not really be going on. It depends on where you at, though. Yeah, they'd be saying some of the birds be cracking.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You heard what I said. It depends on where you at. You ain't that far away. If somebody wants to get at you, you're still kind of right there. No, I don't be worried about niggas. Not you, but... I don't take niggas serious game.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Right. So, what were the most memorable experiences while you were locked up this time around? I was stugging it. Famous. Rich Seale. Yeah? You're a commisset?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Very rich? Come on, man. You know that, man. Cheap. What's the most important shit that you're spending your money on, you know? Some of the shit I can't even speak upon. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:06:43 You know. But, you know, the joint, that's like, that's a billion dollar facility. All right, man. It's all type of shit you're going on in the joint. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So, you know, you got to get to that money by any means. So you were locked up in a different spot than where you were, because you were in prison for those, 10 years? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Okay. Oh, gee. When I went from NRC, they send me to Shaniq Resident Center. It's overly, for down there enough. Like, for anybody that got family and Shania Carresterner Center,
Starting point is 00:07:16 they got to check on their people. Like, them CO, they be acting like they're toughest hell, game. Really? Or? And they be, like, they overly be treatment for nothing, though.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And they're racist. Really? It's racist down. Yeah. Even a black hole that work down there, that racist. Really? They just get into a position of power and they just try to take it out on their own people.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Damn. That's exactly what they do. That's a lot of that shit be going on. You see what happened to do it in New York? Who? On camera. He died in jail. They locked a few COs up that was behind his death.
Starting point is 00:07:58 A lot of that shit be going on. Oh, shit. What was the craziest thing you've seen in there? Well, you're like, yeah, this shit ain't right. I've seen it all, but I ain't going to say that shit ain't right. It'd be a lot of shit going on, game. Niggas be bogus, niggas be rac. Niggas be gay.
Starting point is 00:08:15 She, if you've got them type of people around, you've got to get on their ass, game. Is it a thing where there's PC or is everybody just in there together? Yeah, yeah, it's PC. Oh, okay. That's the first thing they're going to ask you if you got a name. That's what they ask me. You want a PC. Hell, no, I want them, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:08:28 PC. I'm a gangster. I'm a gangster. I'm a gayster. You know, I'm a fight. I'm gonna do it all. We ain't lose a job. While you're in there,
Starting point is 00:08:37 are you tapped into, like, the internet and everything that's going on in terms of social media and shit? They're on the phone. You're just talking to people on the phone and they're filling you in? And they're telling me, yeah, this what's going on.
Starting point is 00:08:47 This, that, this is what it is. Oh, girl. Yeah, yeah, you're tapped into, you got to be top of in. Is there anything that really blew your mind while you're in there? Anything that comes to mind? No.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I ain't shit really. Really blew my mind. That shit was Jay Main, though, for real, for real, though. I feel like them niggas chasing that shit. Like, them niggas really fans of Jay Man, so they were chasing that shit. I feel like that situation with him. Yeah, because he bogg's his ear.
Starting point is 00:09:15 When he pulled up to Obog, you didn't like the way they did him? No, I don't like that shit. These gulfies. I don't like that shit. They bogus his hell. He asked to be pushing peace. Like, I'll see if he wasn't. And that's a different story.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I kind of feel like that at first, but then when I realized that him and Edog had had had this whole, back and forth on interviews and shit, it kind of made me look at it a different way. Man, that shit, man, you can handle that shit in private. You don't got to do all that shit when I'm recording. That would be wrong with chasing that shit.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay, but somebody goes to your hood and you're not necessarily on good terms with them and maybe they're cool with some of the younger dudes from your hood and you at least want to have words with them and they come in and they're filming. I feel like you would probably approach it in a
Starting point is 00:10:01 similar way. You would definitely want to show up and speak to them before they went and filmed the whole vlog in your neighborhood? Man, don't do shit on camera. We ain't doing that? Like, let's talk this shit out. My motherfuck up. If you feel some type of way, that's, like, let's talk it out.
Starting point is 00:10:20 If they had ran up on them, though, and said, like, all right, put the cameras down, I feel like J-Man would have been out of there even faster. It's like, putting the cameras down is kind of like a way of saying, like, hey, we're about to do something that is not supposed to be on camera. Oh, hell, hell, no. said. Because you with your people, they would their people,
Starting point is 00:10:36 like, we couldn't. So we could talk off camera that shit. That shit don't mean, I don't feel like that. Yeah, no. You got to understand Chicago, bro, like,
Starting point is 00:10:44 like a lot of motherfuck be on these cameras cabin. Like, you got to understand like motherfuck up with corn. But you got a lot of blocks that don't move with corn. Right. Bro.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So they do shit like that. That's showing out. I'm on camera. You know? from my shit, acting like I'm that. Okay, but if you're having an intense conversation with somebody and somebody says, move around, what's that typically mean?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah. Move around is an interesting phrase. I can't even speak upon what I do a motherfucker. Yeah, you're just shit like that. But if you know, you know. Right. Did you, do you think that Jay Man was right to just kind of hightail it out of there
Starting point is 00:11:32 when they started saying shit? Yeah, he was. was right. He did exactly that and he still winning. What do with them that? They got up, bro. No, I cannot comment on that. I'm a comment on that. I'm gonna comment on that. I can't just sign a deal though. Yeah, yeah. So they got stuff that's going on. I don't know what that is game. But did you, like, did you see J-Man like kind of sort of
Starting point is 00:11:57 crying? I felt like that was kind of a sad moment for a lot of people. He was kind of getting in his fields and the width. I ain't see that, but if he was crying, like, it's a, like, a feeling that you really can't control. If you're trying to do something right, then the motherfucker's trying to get down on you or treat you a certain way in public.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like, come on, man. Yeah. For sure. So why did you say that you felt like the J-Man interview was part of why you ended up going back in? No, I was trolling. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah, I was just doing that. I thought you really meant that. I was kind of confused. No, I was trolling. You got to see, The internet is so motherfucker. Sensitive. Sinsible. Like, motherfucker's sensitive as hell on the internet.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You got to be open-minded. Like, I'm a funny person. Like, for the material, like, on game. Like, I play a lot. I laugh a lot. Like, doing an interview, that might don't see it, but that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's 24-7 out of the day. Right. I just think about what I'm doing out of the day. I'm chilling. You do have kind of like a cryptic demeanor. Like, you're pretty serious and stuff. But then also knowing you, yeah, You could talk around.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You could joke around. You're having a good time. Yeah. But I guess... I'll be chilling. Some people might not necessarily see that side of you very often. No, they don't see that side at all.
Starting point is 00:13:13 They don't see that side of all. Cheap. Definitely. Yeah, now, you definitely come off serious because I even seen Take a Pohn. He recently... I guess you shared something on your story about him, whatever. But he had...
Starting point is 00:13:25 There's a clip of him saying, like, he wouldn't go on live with you because, like, he takes shit you say seriously. Like, he would do some shit with yellow and do some shit with Jay Main, but like, I don't know. He said he takes shit that you say more serious than a lot of other people saying shit. If you know, you know. They know how I get down.
Starting point is 00:13:43 They know how I'll come. I'd just be coolant, though. Yeah, yeah, and I don't feel it. I mean, a lot of content creators are pretty up front about not being into any violence or anything. And I feel like with Kiddo, you assume there's at least a possibility that Kiddo might decide that he's going to. make quick work of you. You're crazy, man. Not to incriminate you or anything.
Starting point is 00:14:11 No, hell, no. All right, so while you was locked up, there was a viral picture that surfaced of you with a black eye. Can you talk about what happened and what was the situation behind that? Well, again, I ain't gonna say the old name because I don't be in the mixing,
Starting point is 00:14:27 glorified niggas. Yeah. But on Chief here, yeah, we bumped. He walked out. to me talking crazy. Like, I don't be with all that talking crazy shit. I'll stick this ass. Stick?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Oh, cheat. My homie. We're toe to toe. We get him on. Yeah, he got the best of me. He big, though. So that's understandable. But like I said, in the beginning, I ain't no bitch.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I ain't no hole. I ain't no nigga play with me in no type of form of fashion. You know, I ain't go win every fight. You with me? I'm not. If I lose, I lose. If I win, I win. But I'm still the gangster at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:15:04 That ain't taking my gangster away. Ain't no nigger spit on my ass. Ain't no nigga took shit from me. Ain't no nigga did none of that shit. You with me? Ain't no nigga threw no duke on me, no piss on me. Ain't no nigga ever did no shit like that. I ain't never told him no motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I ain't ever did no rack shit. You know, a fight gonna be a fight. I'm famous, man. I am who I young. Niggers hate me. So I understand. What was the situation that led up to the fight? I don't know the situation.
Starting point is 00:15:30 He just walked up to me. I don't even know the nigga. I'm cheap. You're talking how you from 6'00? Well, I don't even know you. How you from 6'100? Ain't no more 600. They don't even exist.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Matter of what I call, they, yeah, zero, zero. Oh, gee. Is it weird, though, being in that environment where, like, we don't think of Chicago is having a whole lot of fair fights going on and everything. But it's going on. When you're locked up, it seems like, you know, that shit happens.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's got to be kind of rare. Even in Cook County. If I would have went to Cook County, I would have been getting them on. But when he didn't lose the draw. I would have came on location. You know, oh, yeah. He just walked itself.
Starting point is 00:16:11 He just signed into the PC. Ain't none of that going on. I ain't doing none of that. You were blackmailed out a hundred times. Can you get a little closer to the mic? Yeah. Damn, okay. So that was the only fight you had in there?
Starting point is 00:16:23 It was like multiple shit going on, multiple fights. In that county, yeah. Yeah. Oh, gee. That's just one fight in that county. Yeah. Just one fight in the joint. Yeah, I had like, three fights.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So does the person that you're talking to on the phone have to kind of fill you in like, hey, yeah, you got a Chicago wave post about you with the black eyes shit. Like, is that pissing you off while you're in there just knowing that people are yapping about you? No. Hell no. I got a blackout. It's part of the game. Part of the game.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Are you having them, like, write down anybody who might have commented anything offensive so you can remember that you don't like that later on? That's what I would be thinking about. I'm paying attention to that shit game. Like, come on, gay. That ain't taking, that ain't taking nothing from me. Right. None from me at all.
Starting point is 00:17:12 For sure. I respect it. I mean, you got to do what you got to do in that environment. That ain't taking nothing from me. My credibility don't go anywhere because I lose a fight. That ain't not the game. 100%. You know that.
Starting point is 00:17:24 You had done interviews where you were basically saying that you definitely were not going back to jail and everything. Did you feel like you kind of betrayed yourself or that you really fucked up by it? Ending up in that situation again? Yeah, you were that worried. You let yourself down a little bit. I betrayed myself.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I was disappointed in myself. Like, I was a hurry game. And gee, I cried in there, I think, I'm bro. But, you know, when you're going to sit alone, you're going to let that shit go. If I had a cellar, I wouldn't have you even cry, but I'm going to sit alone. I was a hurricane.
Starting point is 00:17:59 My homie, I ain't going to flet again. They didn't give you a son man. How come? say it again. They didn't give you a cellmate? No, when I first got the air, okay. Is it better to have a cellmate,
Starting point is 00:18:11 or is it worse? Because on one hand, you got somebody to talk to. On the other hand, you had somebody who could annoy you and everything. If you got one of the guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:19 yeah, it's cool, but if you got a weird oh, yeah, I got to go. I got to put one of my homies in hell, yeah, no. Right, definitely.
Starting point is 00:18:28 What do you plan on doing differently this time around and make sure you don't go back? I can't predict life. I can't predict life, bro. I ain't no time. I'm cooling, though. I'm staying out of trouble,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but I can't predict life. I'm just stay out of trouble. It's like shit just be happening unrespecting. I can't control what happened or what goes on in my life, brother. I'm just living a moment, just go with the flow. You think if you, like, maybe change
Starting point is 00:19:00 because, like, you even said that you've been dissing everybody and shit? you think maybe slowing down on some of the disc songs and shit might be a different way to approach it this time? Yeah, most definitely, yeah, yeah. But you say that, but then you just dropped the disc song like two weeks ago, so it don't seem like you really feel to be slowing down. No, I ain't say that then.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I ain't say that. When I say that? No, you just dropped the disc song, but right now you're saying that you agree. I don't really feel like it's a diss. I'm just speaking how I feel. Yeah, but you can see how other people take it as a disc when you name drop in it? Man, I don't get no fuck.
Starting point is 00:19:31 How other people take it? Like, fuck them. Fuck what they think It does meet the technical definition of a diss song When you're basically Naming and shaming Different people
Starting point is 00:19:42 In my own Think there's no dissone Just speaking of how I feel Yeah Because you've made such disrespectful music Throughout your career That you've got like
Starting point is 00:19:48 A very high standard For what counts as a disc song Yeah Yeah That's exactly the idea I gotta be in that bitch Yeah It's gotta be pretty bad
Starting point is 00:19:57 For it's a kind of Being that motherfucker Yeah Let's do it Right So the whole time You're locked up Are you thinking about rapping
Starting point is 00:20:03 Are you missing the shit? Yeah, yeah. The studio life, that shit, the vibe. Like, sleeping that bit. I treat the studio like a house, a mansion or something. Yeah. How many songs you recorded since you've been out recently? Oh, six.
Starting point is 00:20:21 What's the recording process like usually for you? No, I completed six songs in that one day. All right. Yeah, I was just cooling. We was in the studio. We was cool. So you only had one session since. you've been up.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah. Were you writing, you were writing while you were locked up as well? No. But that doesn't work for you? I ain't gonna say it doesn't work for me. It's just, I just getting the,
Starting point is 00:20:47 just all doing it. Just put the beat on. So you never had a hard bar popping your head while you were in the cell and just be like, man, I got to write this down. You just assume it'll still be there in your head? And I was yelling.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I wasn't thinking about no more music. I mean, that bitch jellin. Define. Define jelling. Man, I'm thugging it. I ain't thinking about the world. I'm trying to pass my time so I can get back out here. Now that I'm out here, I'm lifeing.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah. I don't teach. What's the number one shit you can do to pass the time in there, though, from your perspective? Listen to music. I love music, so that's what I do. They give you, like, a tablet or some shit, so you can actually listen to music? Yeah, you got to bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They're giving out free tablets right now, though. But you have to buy it. You log into Spotify on that or something? No, hell, no. They got their little own shit on GTL. Oh, really? You got to buy a song. What's the process of, like?
Starting point is 00:21:40 You got to buy a subscription. Yeah. Oh, bro. A music subscription. But they ain't doing that no more. They changed, like, everything, like the little phone, the little process in. They give them motherfuckers. They're taking away all the tablets, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:21:51 They're taking them free tablets. Oh, really? Yeah, they switched that shit up. Damn, but does it have all the music that you would want? No. They're really behind, though. They'd be behind, like. Like, they be having like two years.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Two years. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So who you was listening to in there that was on the tablet for you that was accessible and shit? Shit, just young boy. You had a few more artists. Like, Raleway. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Shit, who else? Oh, Huncho. I'm surprised they don't give you like a censored music library or some shit. They don't do none of that game. They don't do that, okay. They don't do none of that. Because it's like, if you could just go in there, and just be able to bump whatever music you want
Starting point is 00:22:35 and some of it's got all kinds of crazy gang disses and all kinds of shit. I feel like the jail might want to get in the way of that, but that's good if they're not. I feel like they should just let you listen to any music that they want to, like you wanted to. Yeah. Especially if it's the clean version. Right. Like, I don't know. Why
Starting point is 00:22:51 they don't get my fuck the access to that shit? Motherfud be lost in the sauce and out. Myfudad don't be doing what going on. Right. Motherfud's beginning a week at magazine. Magazine don't be doing nothing. Because if they can give you a tablet and this going to keep you content and less likely to freak out and stab somebody, that seems like that's probably good for the whole building.
Starting point is 00:23:11 That shit don't be going on in the joint like that. It depends. Not all the time, though. And it depends on what joint you're in. Right. Yeah. Definitely. So you respond to every fan that writes you a letter while you're in there?
Starting point is 00:23:28 No. No? You respond to some of them? No. You said in the interview, you said that you enjoy when your fans send you letters and shit that you actually... I do. Yeah. My fans send me books.
Starting point is 00:23:42 They send me letters. But it's like I was going through something. Yeah. I ain't had time to do none of that. I'll find the whole case. Lawyer fees. I want to be out right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:57 If it went for my bitch, man, I wouldn't be out right now. I'd be stuck. I'll be in that. bitch right now. Ain't noodles and noodles. What was the, so none of the guys really was able to help you out. You said your chick just,
Starting point is 00:24:12 she was the reason that you got out. No, they helped me out. Yeah. But she's the reason that I'm out. And what aspect? Like, she's the reason that I'm out. You know what, like, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:24:27 yeah, brother doesn't help me out. But she's the reason that I'm out. She helped you down, helped you with all the legal shit and everything. Everything. How do you feel when people would be like trying to troll her in the comments and the music videos and shit? Can't troll my bitch. You gotta go.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I can't even, I'll just let them do that bad. You mean, you don't talk about that. Let them do that though. Keep her old troll. You know, just make me and her fame. That's it. She's, she, she's getting clouting and shit? She don't like that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 She don't like it? She don't like that shit. She don't like that shit. She don't like that shit. Can you just like scoot the chair in a little bit? My bad. I just want to make sure that we got a decent audio. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:10 All right. Yeah, shit. Bionaire Black. All right, let's talk about this, because this was recent. Beringer Black, you called him out. You said he was doing a whole bunch of line on his no jumper interview? Yeah. What was it that he said that you didn't agree with or?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Because I don't even remember the clip, but I just seen you posted recently and said that he was lying. I don't agree with it. None of that said, he cavern. Like, I don't know him. This ass was a buck 20 boy back then. We ain't fuck with them. They ain't fuck with us. When you ever got him out of presence, I'm trying to kick it with you.
Starting point is 00:25:44 He never tried to kick with this goofy ass, nigga. Oh, yeah, that's what he was saying. He said that you were trying to kick it with him and do some music with him or something like that? Do some music with him. Come on, again, I'm in the streets. I wasn't doing no motherfucking music. I made, like, two songs back then, two, three songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I ain't thinking about no more music, man. Trying to do it something. with him. But remind you, though. Remind all my fans. Remind the world. But he said he was getting that free me, though. But you don't know, John McCabe. Why are you going to free somebody you don't fuck with? Come on, man. Isn't that, like, kind of a gangster thing? It's like, free the ops. Free the people that I really, really
Starting point is 00:26:27 don't get along with? No. You don't agree with that? No. Fuck I'm saying. Free the ops, for them. Freedom members. The thing that people are kind of trying to suggest is, like, free them so that I can do something to them. Well, that's on them. I don't got nothing to do with me. Billioners, O.T., so he's probably not going to be doing anything, do you? Man, look, his ass, a goofy.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But I guess it was a situation where he had, he dropped the disc song, and he was dissing Melly. So you recently said that you was going to dis duck, and then you apologize, saying that you take that back that you're not going to dis duck. Yeah, I apologize. I'm bogus. As a man, you gotta think before you move. You don't pose a beat. Just getting out the... Just because of a rat, a goofy,
Starting point is 00:27:15 saying shit about you, that ain't true. I gotta be cool, on that shit. You got to be, you know what I'm saying? I got to chill. But I don't like that shit. Like, why speak a part of the motherfucker name when you locked up? Like, when I was out, why you ain't say all that shit?
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm locked up. You ain't say shit to me when I was up? Nothing. I ain't get on these blogger saying my name or even speaking upon my name, but you do it while locked up. That's rash shit. It's crazy because, like,
Starting point is 00:27:46 Duck's been getting new enemies since he passed because then we got, like, Q50 in them. He's been dissing Doug. He didn't have a problem with him during his life or whatever, but he ends up having beef with rappers who are cool with Duck, and now all of a sudden he's dissing him.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm glad you decided not to, though. That was real mature, you though? Like, was that the thing where you just sat back and analyzed it? I was like, yeah, I shouldn't. Because I even see Mama Duck. I think she left a comment on my post, and she was saying that she appreciated you for doing that. Yeah. I told Ruga, I told Ruga to get into home with Mama Duck and tell her that I apologize.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like, because I used to fuck with her son. At first, like, we didn't like each other, we want to f*** with each other. But like, the more I was coming around because I used to be on their shit every day. I used to come over that year a day. I was fucking with them hard. So it's like, back then it's like at first, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:37 motherfuckers like, one really liking each other, but we end up like clicking, like, fuck each other. So it's like, he caught a liking to me.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Then, like, I had love for him. But we weren't like to get a know everyday type of shit, you know? Like,
Starting point is 00:28:54 we went around each other every day type of shit. So that's why I apologize because I remember the time that I had with him. And on top of that, it's a lot of my, motherfuckers out here that little duck.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So why would I disrespect him and put my self in the situations that I don't even got no part of? I ain't going to be doing that shit. I ain't chasing the old clout. I ain't doing that. It just I felt some type of way. I don't play about Melly. Don't mention him.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I don't say nothing about him. Or that'll make me overreact. That's exactly what I did. You know, that's big seeing you, you know what I'm saying? Just walk your statements back. and that's big for the culture. But that's also like what people saying with FYBJMA pushing peace and shit
Starting point is 00:29:37 and saying that it's like really bridging the gap. You think that like you and people like Tay could ever maybe have an understanding where it ain't no dissing the shit going on and I could probably, you know what I'm saying, maybe sit down one day. No, but hold on though. Hey, flame that richie jerkos.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I'm fine. Put that richie in the hell. There's your answer, Rema. All right, so what did you? you think? Because I seen a video you on Blasjindal recently. Was that recent or that's an old video? That was recent. Recently. What's your in Blasiandahl's relationship? She cold. She's all. You know, I was down on the phone. I just put my hand in the camera.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's it. What did you, what did you think when you seen her and say sit down and have that big conversation that they had? I know. That's her. That's him. I don't got nothing to do with me. Do you respect it, though? Like, people being willing to sit down, even if they've had bloodshed between them? That's on them. That ain't me.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You couldn't see yourself doing something similarly? Yeah, shit. That's on them, you see me? It ain't me. How well do you know Richie Jerk? I'm smoking them right now. So you didn't personally know him, though? Or was that just...
Starting point is 00:31:08 You never met him? Chee, that's packed. See, this is why I said you're a cryptic guy. I ain't allowed. It's just that weird silence. For his, his, yeah, Ritty jerk, his body. That's it packed, fo. Oh, Jesus, gross.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, gee. What you do? Hey, let's do it, do. Do what? Push peace. Let's push peace. Now, next question. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Do you agree with the push and peace movement, generally speaking, though? I might not necessarily make sense for you, Does it bring you a little bit of warmth in your heart to realize that maybe some of the younger generation is going to be impacted by some of this stuff? Yeah. I love the movement. That's Jay Main pushing. That's my boy. Keep on going.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You just feel like you're a little too far gone at this point? For me? Yeah. No, I'll push peace with Jay Main. 100%. But nobody else? But all right, is that really pushing piece? If you and Jay Main never really had a problem?
Starting point is 00:32:27 problem. I thought the whole point is like people who had problems in the past come together to resolve it and kind of show the kids like, look, we don't have to be living like this anymore. Let's slow this down and put the guns down and shit like that. So like, don't you think it would be productive if you were to sit down with someone that you probably had a problem with in the past or something versus a friend? Yeah, I'm with all pushing a piece with the kids. Yeah, yeah, for the kids, yeah. I don't miss leave the kids. I want them staying school. I want them to do whatever that they feel like they want to do in life. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:11 For sure. I feel like, I feel like, niggas should start putting guns in videos. Because, you know, kids look at these videos. I don't put no guns in my videos. Not one video you will see with a gun, and I don't do that shit. I feel like everybody should start putting, like,
Starting point is 00:33:31 putting guns in their videos. It feels like in terms of drool rappers, they almost always start with the guns in their videos and then they almost always stop around the point where they start to have to deal with some kind of legal consequences for it and then all of a sudden they realize like oh this isn't a good idea yeah I don't put guns in videos
Starting point is 00:33:51 I never yeah I don't do that even my first video even my second video right you see not one gun I don't do that shit I mean you're definitely somebody that doesn't want to make yourself look such a way that the cops are going to come trying to break your door down too. That's got to be part of it, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 You've seen how shitty it is being wrapped up in the system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but it's really for the kids, too. Like, I can rap about whatever. You could just, like, Ma, beat. You don't got to listen to what I'm saying. Well, you could just listen to what I'm saying, but you don't know if it's true or not, so.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Why do you believe something that I'm saying? I don't got no guns and videos. it's like a lot of motherfuckers intrigued by individuals having guns in their videos so they'd be quit to believe them on the streets just because you got guns
Starting point is 00:34:45 and your videos on me on the street right so these kids they're influenced by that so when they see videos with a lot of guns and that should have made them thing like damn I'm gonna give me a gun just like that
Starting point is 00:35:00 for sure as much as we're talking about the pushing piece thing and talking about how sometimes it kind of feels like there's some reason to be positive about where the culture is going at the same time, I'm sure you notice this as well as we do, that a lot of the most popping, up-and-coming rappers out of Chicago are young-ass kids who are talking about crazy street shit.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah. And in some cases, reportedly, you know, being very, very involved with it. Yeah. And telling on themselves quite often. Yeah. What's it like? Thanks.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Was it like seeing that playing? now where it feels like these rappers are getting younger and younger and more and more violent. I hope they're doing it to make it out. Like, if you're doing it, like, I hope you're doing it to make it out. And if you got the chance to make it out, like, go on here and a slide, like, you sign a deal. Like, go on here to slide. Like, ain't no point of being in Chicago. Ain't no point that you can move around in these little suburbs.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I was in Chicago once in a point of time. We in Chicago. We're chilling. You know, we're cooling. Then, like, when I look up, like, you know, we're going to get another spot, like, somewhere. An hour away. Close to two hours away. That's a smart thing to do.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So. That's what you're doing now? I always do that. Because I remember our last interview. I feel like you were acting like you were living downtown in, like, a high-rise or something. I was. Right. Is that still a little too close to home?
Starting point is 00:36:35 I was, though. Oh, gee. Me and the guys, we was. That's what we was at. But now you're more out of town? Yeah, I'm far out of now. I post my new location. The Korea, not the location, but I post the career.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You know, I said, you know, Twitter ain't going to be able to get up with me now. Uh-huh. So you're trying to stay in a place where if you do get pulled over, the cops aren't going to know who you are? No, they don't know who I am. It's not going to be a, oh, 0-5-1 kiddo. We don't know who I am. Okay. That's good.
Starting point is 00:37:12 No. Seems like that's probably for the best, yeah. That is for the best. Yeah. You know, come to the right. Yeah. No, chill, relax. And go on here.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Go back to the crib. Would you take us to the set, though, if we went back? I block. Yeah. You want to come on my block? For sure. You don't want to come on my block. You can cabin.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Why not? So you're going to come. What are we worried about? We were the 0-5-1 killer. All right Pull up You're looking at me Like I'm gonna be
Starting point is 00:37:42 Facing No you ain't Pull up game I'm telling you I want to see it Like You ain't You know
Starting point is 00:37:48 You Adam 22 I got to do it For the community For the community Sure All right Set the date We're gonna do it
Starting point is 00:37:56 5100 It's on the list We don't do it No pop out Seriously though We gonna I'm gonna show y'all I'll live
Starting point is 00:38:02 I'm gonna show y'all How I'm left I'm gonna talk You ain't Sure I'm with it Mom, let's get it. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Where are you in Rico reckless friendship, boy? I don't know if y'all even had a friendship before, but he was on the internet saying a whole bunch of shit. I'm like, I forgot what interview was. Or recently he was saying that, I guess when y'all was hanging out, he said that you was like a send-off and shit. A niggas just send you off to do all the type of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And these niggas be crazy. He's going to say it, though. Yeah. Was y'all friends before? Because he made it seem like he knew you somewhat. He never had friends, game. He sucked dick. He needs to stop forcing
Starting point is 00:38:43 this up with me, game. I don't beat that gay shit game. I don't be with that shit at all. His hat tweet. Do you think he's just trolling trying to get a reaction out of us? Yeah, he might. Exactly what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But he used to be around duck and shit too, so he was never around? He wasn't around me. He wasn't around gang, no? Is he good in the hood? I'm good in the hood. I don't know. So what that's here?
Starting point is 00:39:11 I'm bow. He's probably good at some of it. Well, maybe not your hood, but. Well, hood. Uh-huh. Yeah, Wougar. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. Oh. You ain't proud of him, though? You got Summer Walker. That's probably like, it's like the biggest W for Chicago rapper in a while, right? Yeah, Chicago rappers been bawling through. Oh, bad a hos and her.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, gee. Maybe. No, I know, maybe. Underrated joints. No, I know. As far as a big name. The Chicago rappers. they be bawling that shit
Starting point is 00:39:54 ball and shit way better that shit ain't nothing you ain't me that shit ain't nothing King Yella and Cardi B I don't know about that can't speak blunt that
Starting point is 00:40:04 hey buddy y'all got some water and get some of the drink game Is it true that people were putting money up to get you jump while you were locked up man who put some money on me that was a rumor didn't you say that what type of money I don't know how much
Starting point is 00:40:21 I ain't say that You didn't say that? No, it was definitely people on the blogs and shit saying that they had money for you to get beat up while in jail. How much? I don't know how much the price was, but it was the thing while you was locked off a show. It was 100K?
Starting point is 00:40:34 I highly died. It was 100K. 100K for assholes what was crazy, right? I'm still L? Cheap. Still 11. I feel like in jail 100K could get like a whole neighborhood knocked off. That's the 100K got to go a long way in there.
Starting point is 00:40:48 If you did send some money to get me B, I'm trying to see, though, like. You need to get your money back? Yeah, you need to get your money back. How much, though? Right. I hope ain't no hundred. A hundred.
Starting point is 00:41:02 A hundred. A hundred's great. That's it? I mean, that's, I feel like that's just outrageous. $100? Oh, $100? Damn, you put a hundred dollars than why yet? I'm not personally, but I mean, I feel like $100 is like probably,
Starting point is 00:41:17 it's probably closer to $100 than $100,000 in terms of how much a body goes for in there. Right? I was still there. You're still there. Yeah. You evaded it. But you never had any physical altercations where you're like, damn. They were trying to do me in right there and then get that serious.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. While you was locked up, though, there was like a viral picture of 05-1 Lumit and Ronald No.9, chilling or like sitting next to each other and like they looked like they were having a conversation. And it was going viral because they were saying that they option shit and that I think old boy got charged for L.A. Capone's death or whatever. How do you feel and how often is it that someone might have to hang out or interact with someone they have problems with in Jiff? Like, is that common where you in the Ops might be friends and cordial in Jif?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, that's common. Niggins be doing that shit a lot. Telling all type of war story. If they each other bops or all type of shit, it'd be all type of shit, yeah, that's common, though. How do you feel like when you see, or I don't know if you seen the picture or you heard something like that, like, Or if I want a little Mick and Rwondo No. 9, like, sitting together and shit. Like, did that make you feel away, or? I don't even know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I didn't even see the video game. Yeah, it was like a picture. Oh, yeah, I ain't even see it, but I don't cheat. But you said it's kind of, like, calming and shit for people to really, yeah. That's common, though. Muck's going to be fucking around with they all. They be on deck with each other. With each other and shit, all the type of shit.
Starting point is 00:42:45 That shit calm. My motherfuders be doing that shit a lot. You would see that shit, a lot in the joint. Or the down all these blocks. No. Some niggas, some niggas gonna, they gonna get on their head, though. They gonna bump it, they're real serious about that shit. But you gotta think about it, like, in the county, it's really going on in the county. So, if it's going on in the county, it ain't like that in the joint.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It ain't like that in the joint. Like, motherfaheaders be chutting in the joint. It ain't like that in the joint. Now, the county is going on. Like, you have to expect the fight when you're one of them niggas. Like, you have to. No effing, no bucks. Like, you got to.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So if we were able to view all the footage of you your whole time that you were in there for this last year, would there be any photos? Do you hanging out with people that would be surprised to see you kicking it with? Nah, you won't go see no shit like that. You don't do all that. It ain't. It ain't that. I ain't do all. That ain't no tough-ass, nigga.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I just, you ain't go see it, though. I want them to get the video of me and do if I, get that. I want them to get it. thing, shit. They talk about it so much, so Zit get it. Like, so motherfuckers could know right, yeah. That's how he coming. That's how I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:44:01 We haven't seen any jail fight to drop recently, huh? Oh, no. They might have plugged that leak. It's been dropping, but it's been slower. I think all the big ones kind of like dropped already. Yeah. But they still, somebody still, Shara Kim is still doing this shit. Yeah, a year or two ago, that was every week.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That would be mad new fights dropping. Yeah. A lot of body cam footage is just people getting arrested and shit. Like, they just dropped him with Mimo and getting arrested. It's a lot of that. Another big thing that happened while he was locked up. Oh, THHFTP, he got killed, and it was on camera. It was calling on camera or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And a lot of people were just saying that, like, because there used to be like a code of conduct where, like, if you were kids and shit, niggas get a pass or whatever, is that still a thing where, like, you know, if somebody might have that kid or baby mama with them, a nigger might give him a pass or how often is it where, like, niggas don't even care about shit like that in Chicago anymore. Oh no
Starting point is 00:44:52 I don't see Yeah Do you respect that though Like somebody doing something Does their app In front of their family No I don't respect that shit You don't pose to know shit like that
Starting point is 00:45:10 That's bogus But do you feel like Are you in the minority By saying that It feels like there's a There's been a change In terms of how people interact with each other in that regard
Starting point is 00:45:23 Because that video that he's talking about is, you know, it's pretty horrendous. It's tough to watch. Yeah, I ain't ever seen a video. I feel like anybody who's seen it. It probably made a pretty big impact on them because it's just hard to watch. I'm cheap.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Who owe if I want Freaky? I seen you make a post that he ain't from your money no more or something like that. Yeah. Who was he in there? I ain't really. Yeah, he used to be an individual that was with us. that we called our brother.
Starting point is 00:45:57 But it ain't even no point to talk about him, you hear me? Yeah. You know. How come y'all, who are rapping from 05-1 right now? I know you, you rapping. Yeah, me. Driller rapping. Drellor.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Who else who else? Shout out of Drellah. We had a good interview with him all who's out here. Zoddick Walk. Man, money. Niz. It's a lot of motherfucker. I ain't go, I'm off that richie jerk.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I don't, I'm ass here. Man. My bad, boy. Gills be gay. Oh, go. Jay, man, you got getting him and bair in there to push peace together. I don't know how you're going to be able to do it. Yeah, that might be tough.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Go ahead. Yeah, all right. What else we got? You said, all right, because Shrencher's news, he'd been making a whole bunch of videos about you and shit. And you called him out. You said he was lying about a lot of the shit that you were saying about you. What specific did you say that you're like, yeah, that's cap?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah, everything. The fight cool. The fight was real. I fault. But all that other shit, Cap. He's funny as here. He gets all that. He said, I'm not getting out of jail.
Starting point is 00:47:13 My lawyer, a cricket lawyer. Trying to get my case dismissed, but the judge ain't going. Why you say your judge was, I mean, your lawyer was a crooked lawyer, though? Oh, the what the fuck? Oh, the waterfuck he said that. That shit was funny as here. He bogus for that. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But his ass, like, he's a real federal informant. So if motherfucker, like, take his word, as a credibility, he bowed his head. Like, there's a fool, like, this is a fool rat,
Starting point is 00:47:44 a real rat. I almost feel like he's doing, like, a comedy skit with his videos sometimes. Because I've seen videos of him where he's, like, talking about somebody saying, like,
Starting point is 00:47:55 oh, he ain't got no bodies. He ain't like that, yada, yada. And then, like, another video where he's talking about the same person talking about how savage they are. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:48:04 are you just saying whatever in your videos, like, just so you got something to say? Man. My fuck need to put a lot of mice traps on the ground for what is that. My father needs to. Yeah. He crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:23 He said put a whole bunch of mice traps on the ground. In terms of like probably the biggest story out of Chicago from the last year, how did you feel when you saw that the OTF Rico came out? Yeah. With Dirk and a bunch of other people, they all went down for allegedly arranging them. murder in Hollywood out here. Oh, shit. We can't.
Starting point is 00:48:49 They got cases pending, so we can't even talk about them. But just in general, how do you think dirt getting locked up affected Chicago? You know, he was one of the biggest rappers in Chicago and shit. And now, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:03 It seemed like there's a fight for, like, who's going to be the next. Big rapper coming out of Chicago. It's like, yeah, dude, I'm having cases pending. I don't even want to speak upon his name. I don't even want to, like, say his name
Starting point is 00:49:19 like you just got to let let him be but he he gonna come home though you know he just got to fight like you see thub you see lucci you see
Starting point is 00:49:32 how boy like they made it out and they was fighting serious cases so he's fighting serious cases he gonna come home too he gonna be her game yeah thing
Starting point is 00:49:43 he's gonna be scraged you just got to fight but like uh Vlad kept saying in interviews that he felt like nobody from any of these neighborhoods in Chicago or wherever is like traveling to go get their man. And that's part of why I was kind of shocking to see these allegations come out of being like, oh, dudes are really willing to book private jets and really get on the road to get their mission taken care of. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah. You can't believe everything. Most definitely you can't believe. None that's on white and black game. Some of that shit be false information. All type of loopholes. So, your lawyer, you're going to be able to eat that shit up. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He's going to be scraped. For sure. Prayers up. There was a video, I don't know. Shout out to Tay. There was like a video you and Tay, or Tay Savage, pulled up to a hotel looking for you and shit. I don't know if you was...
Starting point is 00:50:50 I think this was before you had got booked and shit. Y'all never ran into each other? No. I don't know how he gets your location, I'm like... Was that even a real, legit hotel? Hey, look, I ain't. Listen to me. You think it was a real legit hotel?
Starting point is 00:51:06 I've seen the video as they said the niggas was at the hotel. I'm like, damn. But you really thought I was at the hotel? I ain't know. What the thing? I just seen the video. That's why I'm just asking. We don't see Tate doing too much trolling.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's what I'm saying. You got to listen to the game. You know for a fact that won't a real location. See, you got a real motherfuckers in. That's how you know motherfuckers too in and that. Put a fake location up. You go to the location with the camera out. But you want me to jump out and do something to you,
Starting point is 00:51:40 then I go to jail. So what they tell you? His ass a rat. And I mean that. I'm going fast. But, I mean, he's in a similar situation. You both got to stay out of jail. I'm a scraped.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm a gangster. I'm a thugging. I'm a thugger to the very end. That's one thing about me, game. I don't be with all that police shit. I don't be with that right shit. I don't be with none of that shit, game. For sure.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They're saying young boy just got home today, actually. Yeah, we got to get you on a song with him. It's going to happen. Y'all, y'all talk before? I know he tapped into what y'all got going on, No, we ain't talk, though. They locked in. I'm locked in with them for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You know, that'd be big to see y'all do a song together. Yeah. I'm locked in. Did you convert to Islam or no? Yeah, I'm a Muslim. How long have you been Muslim for? I've been Muslim for a couple of years, but... Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:45 You know, I don't be living right. I'll be living wrong. I don't know. I pray, but... be on my team so I ain't gonna be on the internet faking it and just just saying and doing whatever you know I don't need no protection I'm straight do you think uh Islam could be the thing that brings people like you and Tay together though no no it couldn't even like lessen tension because I feel like a lot of people
Starting point is 00:53:19 when we interview Muslim rappers they like refuse to say anything bad about anybody else who's Muslim that's like that's just shut the whole thing down. They're like, no, I can't do that. I'm deafening, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Got it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah. It's been some, yeah, this is one more, one more, actually one, though. It's been some, like, so, Memo, I guess, Dirt dropped the song, and he was, like, disin' memo, or he kind of took a shot at Mimo, and he kind of said, like, I kind of got rid of Mimo because he ain't served no purpose.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And then I think you retweeted it or something shit, or Mimo. He was saying, I got my freedom, something like that. Like, niggas need to worry about what they got going on. I got my freedom. And then you kind of like, you said in a way, like, what type of nigger is you to be wishing death on the nigger? No, jail. Jail on, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, I'm deaf, but jail on the nigger. He bogus. Yeah, you feel like that's the wrong answer? The police game. I know, that wasn't the wrong answer. He spoke what he felt. Yeah. He spoke what he was thinking from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:54:25 When all these niggas, like, when they're not, When niggas go to jail, man, these, like I said, I said, like, these motherfuckers be throwing Airbnb parties. Like, they be, yeah, we turn now. Where's ass at the crib, boy? We're trying to throw this party, well. He's celebrating that a motherfucker get locked up. That's crazy. I can't believe that shit.
Starting point is 00:54:45 That's how you know the world coming to the energy. I'm crazy. I'm scared on eating. I ain't with none of that shit. It's crazy how many times we've done podcasts with Mimo where he basically said that him and Derek never had any real problems or whatever. And then you hear that leaked Dirkverse And you're like, oh, finally We get a little bit of information about it
Starting point is 00:55:04 Because he always wanted to shy away from having any real combo about it Yeah, it's not right Yeah Yeah You see Adam and Ruga had an altercation? I don't know if you caught up with that Yeah, I'm saying it Rugga You can beat that ass boy, I seen it
Starting point is 00:55:24 No, I don't think so Y'all should get in the gloves game No. Why not? I'm like you. What is me? She's just a little too serious. I can't risk a hell like that.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I could, but you still gonna be a gangster. I don't have you get locked up. I guess there's different rules. No, we're talking out of hell game. I ain't find somebody in my studio. Too many cameras in there. Did they tell you about that over the phone in Jeff? Yeah, that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:55:57 That's a funny mental image, right? one of him just like, no, for real. I'm on the phone. Yeah, Rookin that bitch. Yeah, man, they're high roars. I'll say the video. You're about now, get out. Now, get out.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I'm like, this nigga. This nigga funniest hell, man. I really, like, honestly, I feel like I have not dragged that situation, and I feel like he hasn't talked about it. Then your, your security, he got right on your security. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. It was up in the mix, too, yeah. But I feel like he, I feel like he might have not talked about it on any interview. Am I wrong? I really, I mean, I think he did like a song, maybe after the fact or it dropped before, but other than that, he ain't really been talking about it. I feel like I've, but I've tried to be respectful talking about it
Starting point is 00:56:38 because I didn't really want to have a problem in the first place and shit. So then, like, I feel like he, I don't know. Maybe he don't like the way it all went down or whatever, but I feel like he kind of left it alone too, which is kind of surprising. Yeah. No, Rueger don't be chasing it or nothing, though. I don't really be seen him. No, he don't know he don't chase.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah. What's your Arruba relationship? I was a rube. Talked to one other day. Yeah. We should be making a couple more songs with each other. That's been to happen. I've just been busy.
Starting point is 00:57:09 You dropped that, what was that, YMN, baby? Yeah. Yon Money. I've seen all the new Young Money chains. Niggas is going crazy. Then what else you dropped? You dropped another song, too. I forgot, what was the name of that one?
Starting point is 00:57:21 It was like two weeks ago. There's like two songs you dropped, didn't it? You only dropped one? Hell, no, there's another song. The song where you were dissing to everybody. What's the name of that song? Which one? You're talking about that white man, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:35 That might be it. Yeah, you're talking about that white man, baby. That's the only song, I made. That's only song you dropped. I thought there's a different name to it. Where y' got shot the video of it? Shit, I won't... He was on 50% of a company met.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Bro. Yeah, we're my boy, uh, drill of it on. Cool. And that's my boy. Jail. Yeah, he's been, he's been chilling, though. Yeah, staying out the way. When we were talking about the Mimo thing,
Starting point is 00:58:10 when we interviewed him, he said he saw you in jail and you were scared to come out to self? Gee, I wouldn't never lock that with that man. You think he might have heard that from somebody or is that just fully made up? Oh, gee. Yeah, he's a real character, for it. And he didn't even know point to keep on bringing his name
Starting point is 00:58:29 of his ass irrelevant. man. I want to check. I like that, though. Don't beef. Everybody got it. Get along. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:58:41 He's like, no, that's not what I was going for. No, I'm with what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, no beef for him. Okay. Yes. Yeah, no beef for him. For sure. You know that.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Well, some of the artists that you listen to that's coming out of Chicago right now. Shit, I don't even know they, I don't even know their names, They love that. I'm Chief. There's a few motherfuckers for them. There's a few motherfuckers I be listening to.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I don't remember the name, though. When I be around for them, like, when I be around the guys, you see them around right now, like, they be playing all the type of people music.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I don't be having the phone, so I don't be checking, like, seeing who that is, but it's a lot of shorties music that I fuck with and I want them to keep going, but I want them to keep guns out of their videos,
Starting point is 00:59:32 too, if they could. I'm both. You be fucking with the whippets? Well, who? The whippets? What that is? But the nitrous tank that, how many has? Nah, I don't be fucking with you.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I tried, though. Like, that's my vow. That's building them, so I try that shit, yeah, yeah. You could try, just don't do too much, because it's very addictive. That's your first time I'm even seeing it? Oh, you just call it someone different. Yeah, they stay with that shit. They got everything.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You go with our eight. And the car, they got everything, game. I want y'all to come outside to see how we're coming Like when we lead this bitch you in me Let's do it yeah I want y'all I'm gonna show y'all how we come Yeah That rich nigga shit
Starting point is 01:00:11 You got a nice little cavalry of Black trucks You're gonna see how we coming All right You see how I'm coming You see how I'll put the footage in here So they can see Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah matter of fact yeah That's what I want you to do You go out there Yeah put that footage in that Let's do it You're gonna show you're gonna be coming Definitely man I seen as long as you're talking about young rappers
Starting point is 01:00:34 I don't even want to name them because I don't want to be part of career but I've seen a video of some of the young dudes coming out of Chicago and one of them back doored the other one and they pistol whipped them stripped them naked made them walk home like that I'd never even heard of the dude before I got watch videos of him he got a million views on some shit yeah I seen that they both
Starting point is 01:00:51 that was grimy bro I'm like what that's some real hatred he's straight though yeah he's still here again so he's straight you're in I knew it was bad because when I looked at Chiracology, I'm looking at the Reddit and I'm seeing the fans almost like more worried about what might happen
Starting point is 01:01:08 after that than the actual thing. So I'm taking it that the fans don't think that these artists are fucking around. He's great, man. They're bogus, but he's straight though. He's still here though. That's all that matter game. You can still eat, still when he want to you know, still see his family. That ain't shit.
Starting point is 01:01:29 you get on the same. That ain't not. That don't make you no bitch, though. No shit happens. You get what I'm saying? It happens. Do you listen to the Bloodhounds? Because they really took off
Starting point is 01:01:39 since you got locked up. Yeah, I heard a few of their musical game. They got a few songs that's nice. Yeah, yeah. I heard a few of their shit. Definitely. Yeah, you know what? Definitely a tragedy that Jeff and Schum got killed
Starting point is 01:01:51 before they really got to really feel how successful they were going to become. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm broke. Yeah, no, Jeff was taking off crazy. Most definitely. No, I ain't knew him. It's like he still here.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'd be seeing them all over the internet shit. But yeah, I ain't know him, though. Definitely. So what's the plan for you? You got a project that you're planning on dropping in the near future? No. You're just going to keep shooting videos. Videos.
Starting point is 01:02:20 We've got a project coming. We're going to do with me. You know, big Wyoming, you know, shot right big is all. You know, I'm just cool. I'm just bullying. that's it definitely um
Starting point is 01:02:33 all right you got a message for the people out there or anything you want to let them know yeah to the kids that's watching this that look up
Starting point is 01:02:38 to 051 kiddle leave them all the messages you know some words of encouragement just keep going you know
Starting point is 01:02:46 don't give up don't get no fo what nobody say on both it don't matter how you feeling you know just keep your head up
Starting point is 01:02:56 because we all be feeling some type of way day. Like I said, like when you in jail, you're jelling. When you, when you're out here, you're lifeing. So for the kids, like when you look at these videos, you know, don't get all happy in, believing the hype, you feel, to convince you were going to pick up a gun. That ain't it. Because behind that gun, you're going to go to jail. Behind that gun, you would end up taking a life, then spend the rest of your life in jail. You know, I don't want to see motherfuckler like
Starting point is 01:03:26 in jail. I want to see motherfuckers out hell. You know, you live and you're livin. You know, it don't matter what you go through game. I'm going through shit every day. My homie. I'm hurting every day. But I'm happy, though.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You know why I'm happy? I got my freedom. I'm breathing out. See, you know. So, to the kids, just do what you got to do. Stay in school. Bro. Get your GED.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Get your high school diploma because you ain't go, you ain't go make it nowhere without it, bro. Go to college. That's where all the females are. The females ain't in the streets. Ain't no females in the streets game. At all. The females in school.
Starting point is 01:04:19 They're in college. Then when you get older, you're living, you got your own crib. You got a car. You know, you got a good job. Like, timing is everything. You feel, don't rush time. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:04:33 If it's meant for me, it's meant for you. I'm Chief. For sure. 0-5-1, kiddo. Good tapping in with you again, man. And we all looking forward to seeing what this next run is like. Keep pumping that music out. Stay out of trouble, man.
Starting point is 01:04:50 That too. Shout about big as all. Now, let's go on from the show y'all. How are you coming, you, didn't you? Let's check it out. No jumper. Kiddo, Rimo. Coolest podcast.
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