600Breezy on The Lil Durk Trial, OTF Jam, King Yella Going Broke & More
00:00No Jumper, coolest podcast on world in here with my man, Remo.And you know that we had to sit down with the man himself 600,Breezy double cup up in the building.You know that we did it.You know that we did it.You know that we did it.We did it.That's my mom all about there, right there.
00:19What's the word, man?We did it.How y'all feeling, man?Good, dog.How you doing?They swear y'all got me locked up last.Oh, we got to start there, man.Last interview we did with you.
00:29You got booked what a week after two?Probably wasn't even a whole week.Probably was maybe a week.Maybe if that,it probably four, five days or some shit.But yeah, bro, I had a warrant.All right.Sitting here the whole time.
00:42So when people would look at it like,damn, he left no jumper and got locked up.Shit, no, they was already looking for me the whole time.I just ain't.So you left L.A. and went weird.And then how you get arrested where we're at?All right.So I went to Chicago first.
00:56Got into a little mishap with the police.They chased me and shit.in my car in my name. I'm like, damn, I don't, what the fuck they chase me for? You know what I'msaying? Then, got out there, all the cribs I be at, just pickup trucks everywhere.I'm like, what the fuck going on? I really was lost.Went to my little bitch crib. The U.S. Marshers came right in that.Snatched you up.Came right in that bitch, but they didn't have an actual warrant. They had a body warrant.
01:23So they just came to the dough, and I just came out.They ain't search a crib, shit. It just took me. I'm like, man, what's something?up bro like what y'all yeah and what's this for you know me i'm thinking 600 gangs charge somethingbecause it's the u.s marshals i'm thinking something heavy they like all drugs in pelivania i know what itwill come on i'm going with this shit you slick was happy when you heard that yeah oh god oh god theyhad the shit on the people with my neighbors and shit they were recording in and the shit and you knowI'm saying that's like i was smiling once i heard that i told them straight up i said manthis shit's some weed bro let's go let's me get this shit out the way yeah yeah you know and one but
01:57of some weed, but that was my fault though, putting my name on them packages, doing pop-upshops, not knowing that it's not legal where I was at. So I did it in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvaniais not legal at all. And so you got caught just because you had it in there, or they started theinvestigation because they knew that it was being sent there? No, so they was watching the niggersthat I was doing business with since 2019. So it just so, because there's no S-DOT on the case with me, too.Oh shitIt just so happenedMe and Esdot got paid
02:29To go do a pop-upSo we do the pop-upIn 2024This shitThey came and got usMe a yearSome change laterI'm not thinking
02:37Nothing I did pop-upsAll around the worldYeahMultiple placesBut that shitWas illegalSo they looked at it like shitWe watched these nigg
02:45For a whole dayThey made this much moneyIt was undercovers in thereIt was niggasThat was thereThat we sold to handIn the handThey had us red head
02:54Like shit on cameraLikeI meancourt they plan the shit so I'm just letting time go by like shit whatever the lessshit they come with I'm gonna take it because it's just some weed anyway so what you callout to how much you're gonna do one or two years yeah and you try how long you did there uh got70 some days off a good time off the year yeah and I got to yell up bro and this shit this shitlightest shit I ever been on I was about to say because you've been doing bids for a minute now
03:20and you'd be doing stints like so how was this how was this big because it's weed wellThat shit was light, but I sat in the county the whole time.I never sat in the county jail.So that shit, I ain't allowed.That shit bust my head.I don't see how the nigs do it.Because you don't get as many privileges as being in an actual prison.I was on parole in Iowa, so I was used to any time I get in trouble.
03:40I know where I'm going.I'm going straight back to the joint in Iowa.You know, that shit, open dorms more than likely or you out all day.Like you, it's so much freedom in prison than sitting in a cell all day in a county jail.So I ain't a lot.That shit just taught me a lot.Like, that shit taught me valuable lessons.And there's a lot of stuff that we're used to doing with weed that we don't think twice about
04:00that is actually a big deal like flying with it.We all done it a million times.Nobody thinks twice about it.How many times are you like mail somebody an ounce or two and just didn't really think it was a big deal?I've had people mail me ounces of weed that were not wrapped in any way, shape, or form.The box is stinking when it's on my porch.It's technically legal.But that's what the judge was on my side.
04:21The judge, first of all, his wife was from Chicago.So he went to law school in ChicagoSo off the ripHe was already fascinated with meThen when he really read over everythingHe's like, you don't got shit to do with this caseHe's the lowest nigga on the totem poleHe said, you just was a celebrity
04:38I said, I'm pleading guilty to what I didI did a pop-upI got paid, I came and sold a week that dayWhat else were we doing?Like that niggas shit came with some light shitBecause you know it was a RICO chargeIt was a state RICOYeah
04:52But that shitThem state RICOthey just handing that shit out.You know, thug them shit,Lucci, them shit.Hillrich Pablo Juan.A lot of niggas that got St.Rico's, you know,
05:01them niggas went and did,what,two to five years for guns,gangs,violence.Niggas.I just did a year for some weed.Like,
05:10you know what I'm saying?Like,that shit ain't about nothing.That's St.Rico, shit ain't about nothing.So, you know,niggas looking at itthinking I was gone,
05:16thinking I'm out of here.No,that ain't the case.You said,you said,as soon you got to Chicago,you got in high speed.So it's still,
05:24It's still like that?Like, you still got them off the, like, be on point?Like, it's, because I was leaving folks repast.I was leaving, I'm on repast.Ah, shit.So, you know, we was outside on different type of time.Yeah.And it's just so crazy.
05:37Like, I wasn't fin to stop, man.Like, no matter what I got in the car.And they got behind me and flick the lights.I'm like, hey, I know, my tag's good.This shit in my name.Everything good.I don't get pulled over.I don't do no speed, none of that.
05:50So once they pulled me over, I stop.Then Mocha.pulled up took them I took them I'm like okay I deal with this shit later but then bytime I got to the next state and I'm seeing all of these pickup trucks I'mno this this this something serious there's something deeper like they reallyhad from five boys were like folders five almost six in the morning I reallywas contemplating like damn when I'm gonna go what I'm gonna do yeah and eventhe location where I thought I was gonna go where I thought they weren't gonna
06:22they knew they knew they was on youThey knew they was at the window.I was going to jump out the window.They had the window.Guns out.King, U.S. Marshal's.I'm damn.They came for me.
06:31This nigga said my name all type of shit.So, yeah, bro.It's a f***ed up situation,but that was a lesson learned, though,because it's like literally,like the judge said of itself, though,like, like 88%, 90% of this country,marijuana is legal.
06:47So it's just certain places you end upthat they're not honoring that shitand they still go try to like,look what they just deal with Texas.Yeah.You know what I'm saying?That's not okay.If everyone else is making this shit legal,
06:58y'all going out to our way to like,we got more room in jails.We still from the lock knickers up for that shit.That shit ain't anything.But does it feel kind of insane that, you know,and I'm not professing to know like exactly every street thing that you did in your life.But I would assume if we were to go through your real life, highlight real,there would be some cool stuff in there.
07:17And meanwhile, you end up doing a year for like some weed,which literally like every person you know got some weed.almost nobody will ever do jail time for weed.Like it just really kind of stands out.It was like, damn.And didn't get physically caught with the weed, nothing.You know what I'm saying?Like it was just, it was niggas on the case like, oh, breezy, breezy, breezy.
07:37So they was telling them that all breezy bringing weed from over here to over here.A lot of shit, it was all a lot, though.Like, I know what I do when I do it or where I do it.But a lot of them niggas was just trying to get off because, you know, we got in there.The first two corrupt organization charges, you know, the judge, they,They just tell you the max.They don't tell you like this.So, hey, y'all, it's 20-year-a-max for this, 20-year-max for this.
07:59You know, me and Ed's not sitting next to each other.And Blood had more charges to me.You know, he don't even fuck around.So I'm like, the fuck.But it made sense now, like, how shit played out and shit like that.Like, he's still fighting so I can't speak on too much of bro shit.But he's going to take some light shit.Like, he can take the same shit.
08:19Y'all locked up in the same spot, too, right?Yeah, yeah, yeah.We rolled from, I'm trying.transport. They came and got mefrom Wisconsin and went rightto the county, we grabbed him. And then theytook us all the way to Atlanta to grab anothernigga and broke us back to Pennsylvania.
08:34That's because the nigga was going to the samejail.Yeah, it wascrazy, bro. Crazy, crazy. I didn'ttook them, I didn't been on transports and shit.I didn't been caught in different states that had to beat you.But that was a bro first time and shit.So I would just tell him like, bro, this shit ain't shit.
08:49But when I got there, I'm damn. I might have been lyingbecause these nicks talking about50 years collectively for Maxon went some shit with some weedLike, you know, I had the nigga that gotBill Cosby out. I hadDante Mills. The nigga they got BillCosby out and that he out right now
09:06Like, you know, a lot of people in the world don't even payattention to know that Bill Cosby.No, he really out of jail.I had the same lawyer as Bill Cosby.And he looking at this shit like,it was just the conspiracy charges.The conspiracy, when you get a conspiracy chargeis like, it's basically like, it's hard
09:20to beat becauseon the laws is like knowingly orunknowingly or direct or indirectly.So you could be with me and I could have just served the nigger or some shit.And you don't know nothing about it.You don't know I got no weed, no whatever, no gun, whatever, whatever I had with me.They hit you with a conspiracy.You're going to have to take some time too because they're just going to be like, oh, well,
09:44and sent a law, even if you didn't know, he was with that person.And that's fucked up, though.Everybody getting jammed up, man.I don't even like that nameJam get up therebecause bro you knowI was one of them people that spokehighly about food
10:01Oh yeah you got a Vlad TV clip that age like milkNika you ain't see my commentSomebody put it up thereAnd I commented like I said I had to see it to believe itAnd I believe in nowBut that shit as a street niggaThat shit still hurt thoughSo let's talk about Jim a little bit
10:15So like all know he the nigga that's on the standSnishing on dirt rightYou went on Vlad and said thatThis niggaI don't believeyou and Mimosaid that y'all don't believehe's snitching
10:25so it seemed likey'all kind of likehe's from 79thhe from Bernieyeahwhat was y'all relationshipwhere would you even knowhim from anyway
10:32he was likeso it's cordial with me and himbut to my peoplefrom Evans he's an opso I know Jamlike you know he did 12 yearshe was a kidwhen he went to jail
10:44you know what I'm sayingyeahI know young JimI know the niggathat was outsidedoing what he doif you knew himlike other people
10:52You wouldn't have thought that.You wouldn't have thought that, bro.You would have thought he'd have kept that shit solid or what it?Like, first of all, because I don't really know the whole extinct,but it's like you got caught with a gun.Okay, what you was going to get a, you know how Chicago played.You're going to get like a five or seven or some shit like that for a bitchful.He was going to pull it four off that.
11:09You're going to come home.You sitting here admitting to some shit that they don't know nothing aboutthen throwing other niggas and that with you.And it's like,Okay, yeah, you got Dirk in the situation,Vaughney, all these dudes, you got them in that situation,but you also got yourself charges that are like 10 times more seriousthan you getting caught with a gun.
11:34You got caught with a gun.You decided to cop out to three murders.I killed these people.Nigger.What is that?You took some chump change and turned it into...Max.You feel me?
11:47Like, you can get life.Like, people that snitch, I don't get what they.what they hold mindset.I've never seen the niggas snitch and walk away.You're doing some type of jail time.Doing some type of some sort.So it's like, what you do it for?Especially if like, like, with street niggas,
12:03we signed up for this shit.Like a lot of us, coming from Chicagoin the neighborhoods we in and shit,a lot of that shit was just doing our faceand we had to adapt to our environments.You know what I'm saying?But you still could have got your ass upand went to got a nine and five.
12:18Or moved out, moved from with your mom.I'm gonna go move with your auntie in a good neighbor or whatever, whatever.You didn't have to do what we, so we made the decision, even though it was like it was put to us,we still make the decision as young men and men to do the shit we're doing.Yeah.Jim, it's like, ain't nobody put a gun to your head to make you do shit.You sitting here, you got caught.First of all, you're trying to make it seem like you salty as smirk when that's the nigga that's taking care of you.
12:47He still has not put nothing out there that was a.a value, like a reason.That was like, oh, yeah, that's why I told him.You just tell them on them because you're like,I ain't going back to jail.Nah, he literally went on Instagram yesterday and said,the reason why he's snitching on Dirtbecause he felt like Dirk sent him on a fluky hit.
13:06He said that he said that the police knew about the car.Dirk never told him and D.D. about the car.Then he said, I guess when he got to L.A.,even though I don't believe it,but he said that when he got to L.A.,that's when he found out that he was supposed to do the L.That's when do the little text on and say, hey, you're going to do this.You think some grown men, you think us has grown in.
13:28Yeah.Our homies are not.My wife can't just tell me to get up and come somewhere without telling me why.You got some shit going on.He probably didn't have literally anything going on, right?Dirk wants him to fly out as, like, hitting the lottery.Even though he's already cool with him and stuff,it's still like you were going to be doing nothing for the next couple months.
13:46So now you're going to L.A. to hang out with your rapper, homie.I mean, I could imagine him just jumping at the opportunity.But at the end of the day, they still ain't showed no proof of Dirk seeing nothing paying.Dirk ain't got none.From what I'm looking at, I feel like Dirk from the wall.That's the biggest thing that Dirk's team can lean on is like it may sound pretty plausible when you have all these people testifying, but there's nothing like concretely tying into it.There's no concrete evidence because for a murder for hire, how was there a murder for hire if nobody got paid?and it ain't like
14:19they killed the niggerand then they locked them upthe next dayno it was a lot of timefor niggas to get paidand all thisand you're such a gangsterand a killer and all this
14:28he could have pressedDirk about his moneyyou know what I'm sayinglike so it's justit don't make sense to melike I just feel likeit was one of themhating situations
14:37and a nigga likeand I'm taking likeI look that nigga'sNino Brownhe said shitthis shit bigand he saidDirk is the smart brother
14:45from the banklike you know what I'm sayingLike that's how I look at it because it's like damn you just taking niggas with you for some shit like you know what I'm saying then you pinpoint and doing all this because right now from what I how I see itIf I need the only one thatWas like red-handed with shitThey got him doingMost, you know what I'm saying like they got proof of that but when it come to dirtWhere is it? It's not there. It's it's invisible because these niggas is just saying this is nothing there is nothing dirt then you know? It's nothing dirt didn't you
15:17give him nobody no gun he didn't give a nigga no money if everybody getting on the stand sayingoh it was a murder for hire but we didn't get paid where's the murder for hire that mean that make y'allsome stupid ass niggas that just did some shit just to do it but where is the charge that comesin on dirt is yeah the evidence ain't that strong i ain't gonna lie they don't if there is any evidencebesides group chats but one thing that was said in the group chat that i was like all right this a littleSo basically Jim hit him up saying like, yo, we didn't get my money.But supposedly they was mad because he didn't get the right guy.But Dirk texting back and was like, oh, he still counts or whatever.
15:58So basically like in a sense, he kind of like, if they can use that text message to say like, all right, nigga didn't kill Kwondo, but Pob still count.That's the only concrete shit that I seen where it's like, that's true though.Like that's that court.They said that.Dirk said that in the text message, yeah, in the phone.But this my thing.If so many people been at Dirk house and he had so many devices,how the fuck can y'all say that he text anybody or he, this was his phone?
16:26If that was really his text message, yeah.His homies be at his crib.What they got to do, this shit ain't got in the do with a little dirt.They want dirt because he the money.That's just, that's how the feds play it.The feds don't want.Like, look at it like this.If the feds just wanted niggas like that, the whole Chicago wave would have been in jail.
16:43For murders.Yeah.Murders, murders, murder, just off word of mouth.This shit being broadcasted.It's niggas that's doing shit and getting up there and saying like, yeah, we just smokethis nigger, da, la, la, da, la.Feds ain't never came and got nobody.You know why?
16:55Because when no money involved.Now you got a nigger that got 30, 40 ms out the trenches that still be in tune withhis people.They don't want that.If Dirk woulda pull the keef route, the police want to fuck with him.But they look at them like, oh, shit, this hood nigga got some money.We can't allow that.We got to get this thing out the way.
17:16He got gangsters with him, kill us, whatever.I think it's more so that it happened in L.A.Not saying that Dirk is involved,but I think that doing it by the Beverly Center,niggas probably would have got away with some more of the shitif it was in Chicago shit.But it was like, duh.Yeah.
17:31They did that shit in the area.I'd be trying to tell niggas that.Like, he did that shit in the area where you were supposed to do that shit at.Like, if he had got killed on 63rd,they won the feds when it came and picked that case up.And just, it's f***ed up how shit happened.It was like, I don't know.Because I used to live right there where that shit happened that would fool them.
17:50So I don't know when I'm seeing it.I'm damn, I know that gas station.Wait a little where.Where at the Biblellis Center?I, right.Yeah, bro.That shit is just like, it's a f***ed up situation.But I still, me, like, me personally, free smirk because I don't feel like he got
18:03nothing to do with the shit, bro.I just feel like he's a man with money.He's the top dog out that equation.if you kill the head, the body going to fall.So if they take Dirk away from all these niggasthat they like, oh, he's taking care of themand they still doing this and that.The feds won like that.
18:22Because then that go all the money.Now, who else?In that whole circle, Keith ain't going to come backand fuck with niggas to him.So it'll make it look like the whole 300,Lamber, all that shit.It'll make it look like it's over.Yeah.
18:37If Dirk gone.All right. How do you feel?So a lot of things came out on court that niggas didn't know.One thing that stood out, so they were saying that, so during the time after King Vaughn was killed,there was a whole bunch of Instagram lives of Mimo, and I guess you had went to Savannah too,but they mentioned Mimo specifically, and I think Jam said that Mimo had botched the hit that they were going to do in Savannah.Like going to the block and shooting a music video.Exactly.
19:06Which we all fondly.remember him doing that regardless of if there was actually gonna be a hit.But still, Jim, what type of shit is you own?Why did you even getting up there saying,oh, Mimo f***ing up?We was from the kill full of wool.Like, I just, like, it's like a desperate move he's pulling.Like, I just felt like he pulling the depth to the more.
19:23I look at it, like, he don't want to do no more time in jail.So he's just up there just throwing everybody.Honorable.Yeah.Like, so he's saying anything out of his mouth.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, because ironically, okay, if Mimo went down,down now.
19:39What, who said, like, so you trying to say, y'all, you and your niggas went too, like,at the same time, like, y'all were separately without fool, like, how, like, stop trying to pinpointpeople and put them in the, because Memo got up there and said some shit, like, Jam was stillin jail or something when he shot the video, whatever, so he don't really know.But I don't know, I'm just watching from the outside looking in, bro.How close is Memo in Jam relationship?Because Jam only followed four people, and Memo is one of the people that he followed.Yeah.
20:08See, I don't reallyI know Jim from beforethe 12 years.I don't really know about this new nigga.You know what I'm saying? So I don't really know.He probably could have just been following folks off theOTF shit and bro being around and shit like that.But when you look at what you said on Vlad,
20:25do you look back at that and be like,damn, I was being a little too forgiving?Because when I watched you say that,it made me check myself about the fact that I had calledJim a snitch on the podcastand made me feel like,Did I blow it?Did I jump to conclusions too fast?
20:40I'm never speaking up for nonigger ever again after that, bro.Like, that really, likefor Chicago, what Jim doingright now is an eye-opener for a lot of streetniggers.Right. Because...We've never seen it on this level.You've never seen it because it's like,
20:55now it's like,it could be a nigger that's with you every day.Like, if y'all was streetnickersand y'all was killers.Yeah.And you didn't sing him do shit,you didn't see him do shit.And there's one day,
21:06one of y'all just choose.was to flip after y'all, then,you tried to stand over, niggas, do all type of shit.Like, damn, you would have never expected that from him.And that shit gonna hurt you because it's like,damn, this was my man's, this was my brother in the streets.I thought we was.And they're just like, damn, you really, like,
21:22Jam ain't get caught up on nobody or nothing.Nothing that was gonna get him gone for a long time or forever.He just said, f***.I'm gonna give up all this shit.But.At that time, when you said that, what year was that, you know?That was like...That's probably like 24.
21:41Either in the 23 or 24.Because people in that camp already knew Jan was snitch.See, because that was some personal shit in between them.But they should have been telling the streets, though.I feel like some niggas knew because it got to me that Jan was a snitch before it hit the internet.So that's what I figured you would have figured...You would have at least knew he was a snitch.But it was a lot of secret assassin shit going on.
22:05those lot of secret because that shit that niggas were supposed to,oh, look, woo, woo, through the streets.Yeah.They don't f*** fool.He ain't right.Like, that's just how it worked.Niggas, like, I'm a nigga.I don't like to throw that jacket on people, that snitch jacket.
22:18But it's like, if y'all know, y'all know something, at least let nix know, like,I watch out for fool because niggas could have been still doing shit with him.Exactly.And he could have just been working the whole time.You know what I'm saying?Yeah, so y'all didn't get those calls?Because I even got that call or heads up.Before OTF Jim, went viral for being the snitch.
22:34I'll say like this ex-man Ricowas one of the first peopleto even put it outthat he was a snitchand everyone was trying to figure outwhere his information came fromI seen thatI seen that.
22:42Little do people knowit was OTF affiliatesbehind the sceneskind of telling niggaslike yo jamthat nigger all badso people in their campkind of knew that the nigg was bad
22:52but I guess they wasn't going aroundtelling other peopleyeahso it's likeI think probably meand a lot of my niggaswas out the loopbecause you know
23:02we 600 we got our own shitgoing onand these niggas is likeThey're guys.So we beat ease and niggas up, but it'd be a lot of shit.Yeah, I got some shit.It's like, I ain't going to lie, bro.After you realize, it's really like an O-TF versus O Block versus 600 war going on secretly.
23:19From the case, you can kind of tell us what's going on.I mean, it's just.And I'm not going to say war as in people getting killed anything.I would say it's a war, but it's a lot of animosity.I mean, it's like disagreements.And we all grown in.Yeah.But we all grew.
23:36from kids with each other, but some niggas grew, like, I'm one of them niggas thatdon't know a lot of them niggas because you know the OVee shit, Saturday Night and shit.So I see them niggas, they see me, y'all, he, man, he'd be with food them, but he's fromBrick City though.So bro, cool.They'll show me 16.They'd shake my hand, but we side-eyed out and each other because I know my other, youdon't like my other homies and shit like that.
24:00So I'm one of the niggas that would be out the mix for certain shit because they ain'tgot nothing to do with me. I'd be on 600 time. I'm worried about what's going on on myblocks. And a lot of that shit, it'd be a lot of shit going on. But I wouldn't say like,it's like beef or niggas killing each other and shit like that. There's just a disagreementand niggas don't, everybody's not for everybody. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's justlike that. It's just one of those situations. Everybody ain't for everybody. And niggaswith who they f***ed with. So you wasn't shocked when you seen like some of the, I guess,in the transcripts, they was kind of saying that there was text messages where Dirk was mad at
24:35O Block members because he felt like they wasn't sliding and they was leaving it up to OTF.That's what they're saying in the transcripts and text messages.So you wasn't shocked like, all right, there is some animosity between O Block and OTF.No, because there's Vaughn we talk about.You know what I'm saying?So if Smirk did feel that way, you know what I'm saying?Those feelings are valid because that's equivalent to Chief Keith getting killed at the peak of his career.and he doing this shit for that
25:05and then ain't nobody doing nothing for himyou know what I'm saying?YeahSo yeah, yeahlike niggas is brothersA lot of niggas is brothersA lot of niggas don't tell usabout a lot of niggas is brothers
25:13So it's valid to feel that wayAnd it's valid for niggasLike all they ain't doing shitBut everybody's not killersEverybody's not drug dealersEverybody not against usSome niggas is just aroundLike
25:23They're just aroundSome niggas play their partsSome niggas just grew up in the neighborhoodsAnd they ain't know shitLike that's just what it isBut you can't force no niggasTo go and go do nothingLike the niggas that's gonna do it and got it on their mind
25:36And got it in their heartThey're gonna already get up and go do itLike so if they didn'tIf there's this allegations thoughBut if he really felt that way and shit like thatHe just cut them niggas outStop fucking with them niggasAnd that's it
25:49You can tell it was some animosity betweenOTF and O Block just from the messagesBut I don't knowJust from everything you've seen it's likeOh yeah dirt wasn't reallyWith too many peopleHe was fucking MooopAnd uh like he was
26:02All right, so one thing, 600, it seemed like y'all don't really branch out.I'm really f***ed with too many other people.Y'all stay together.I've seen Big Mike.He said that Dirk kind of like was recruiting the biggest killers from every hoodand kind of like forming the Avengers.And not even saying the biggest killers.Yeah, I wouldn't even play that.
26:24Do you feel like him just clicking up with guys from each and every hoodis like ended up being a problem instead of just sticking with the Lamron niggas?You'll probably have more in-house shit going on.But if you grab me the nigger from each and every hood, it kind of makes shit too mixing.In my opinion, that was the problem with the whole Chicago wave and shit because, no, I'm not, he ain't go grab no killers, no shit.He grabbed faces and niggas with names from certain blocks.And a lot of these niggas don't know each other.So that's where this shit come from.
26:58This shit called.You got to think, Jam just spent the majority of his life in jail.He's not from Lamron.He's not from dog pound.He's not from nowhere over there.He don't know Dirk like that.He even said he don't know Vaughn like that.Come on, bro.
27:11He's been in jail his whole life.He only been out for a little while.He got out, seen the life they was living,and I got these niggas knocked.You know why?Because them not his own.There's no love for them.So, yeah,
27:26Dirt grabbing other niggas from other blockswas kind of like, you know,I feel like he gonna beat itso I can't say his downfall.Yeah, yeah, yeah.But it was like, it caused issues.But the narrative that people ran with onlineis like Lamron wasn't willing to kill for him
27:42so he had to assemble his own gang.The internet are always going to paint it a certain picture.They don't know what niggins.That's pretty good narrative though.That sounds pretty cool.It's pretty gangster.It sounds, but like, you know what I'm saying?Like, that's some street shit,
27:55so I can't get into that.I'm sure, yeah.But you know what I'm saying?They can't just sit there and say,all these niggas want to do nothing for themso he just got that.No, he just grabbed niggas.I felt like what he was trying to do
28:07was the right thing was grab big piecesfrom these blocks and make sure they okayso they can make sure they niggas okayand now we leap.But that shit just calls it.It's too mixing.It's too mixing.It's too mixing.
28:19Like you got to think it was organicin the beginning with the Chief Keefeand the Fredosand the fucking eat it everybodybecause these niggas that really knew each otherand hung with each other in these blocks.They want to know, oh, what's up?You, you biddy, bro.
28:34You bid it.Oh, 16.And you hang it with him because he hanged with him.It was niggas that really knew each other.But if you look at it, even from the dis-s-an-what-you-want-what-you-want-video shoot,it was like hella-differing different clicks.Even back then, that was kind of like,I feel like at the start, niggas wanted the money.
28:51So it was cool with being Mixy,but then you see how I played out.Because even he ended up beefing with niggas like CrumpAnd the whole move on, and all them niggas was in that first video.Because it was like, it was street politics start happening.Shit started happening when they got to choose their sides type shit.Like, so, you know, crumped them from Drosity.Yeah.
29:11They were the majority of the GDs that we were beefing with the shit or with 051 and shit like that.That really, that really what that was a niggas, one of their big niggas came home,linked them niggas together, and it was basically like, fuck us.Like damn fuck us y'all think it's just what that's air were you know what I'm saying like okay but yeah that's it just it'd be a lot of it'd be a lot of street politics that be f***in upWhat was going on so taking it back all way to the this ain't what you want days when you sent all them different facesAnd the videos from them different blocksThat was before Chicago got to a point ofOh these niggas ops and these niggas ops you know a lot of niggas are cool we grew up with each other we went to school with each other we went to school with each
29:56other like a lot of us won ops for real for real that shit just over time whencousins and friends and people that like you might kill a nigger uncle and don'teven know this his daddy brother and he from Niz block so now that make them be in toolike it's just it's it's up bro yeah everybody tied to somebody some type of wayand by that everybody having ties you eventually go have to pick a side yeahbecause you got ties to these people when they really opt out with these nigginsLike, we're going back and forth with these niggas, but you'll be with them.Now, my little homie see you.
30:30He's going to smoke you.I can't tell him nothing because all he going to know is he'd be with them niggas.So that shit just, I don't know.But Dirk, he had the right mindset, bro.It was the right mindset to, I'm going to put, I'm going to fuck with all the blocks.I'm going to fuck with niggas and put pieces together from Chicago.But niggas start hating.He probably pulled niggas in and looked at him like, man, I'm supposed to be in his position.
30:53I supposed to have that money.Them niggins ain't no shit.this shit just start bubbling up.That's why it's good to stay with your niggas.But let's play devil's advocate here, right?All right, so say if they, even though we're saying Dirk innocent, right, he didn't do this shit.They're saying that Dirt promised these niggas a million dollars each for the hit.Nobody got paid and the only nigga who got money was OTF Jam and that nigga only got $10,000.
31:17But where's the proof?No, but I'm saying take that, take Dirk and them out of it.Even if that's the, it's like, maybe that's why a niggas turned because it's like even if niggaswent and did this shit.Niggas ain't even get what they was even supposed to get.Like, just in the sense of like a nigga expecting a million,a nigga don't even get $500,000 a 10 piece.But you think, like, let's be realistic.
31:38All right.You think a nigga, I don't go fuck if it was Kanye West.You think a nigga going to tell the nigga,oh, I got a million dollars a piece for y'all.Y'all go kill this, nigga.A million dollars.You know, it sounds crazy.One million dollars.
31:54It sounds crazy.$100,000, not 10, not 29, not even one, not five, one, a whole M.Yo.Niggas don't know how much money they got.We know we got some money, but niggas don't got, how many niggas went on that hit?You got three and then you got two niggas and another car following, so really five.Come on, bro.You think he's trying to come up off six, seven million dollars for a body when in Chicago, that shit.
32:18Come on, bro.Bye.Even if you don't give a nigga, $10,000, though.What the fuck you think a nigga going to do?Like, come on.So Jim saying that he only gave him $10,000.All right.And so basically he got that 50 piece from when he first got out,
32:33when you know the nigga rap, Jan got out there,Jan gave him 50 and got to ask again.That ain't got nothing to do with it.They ain't got nothing to do with it.That was on some.No, I'm saying he got $50,000 when he first got home.Like, I'm looking out for you.Here's some money.
32:44He showed him love.That ain't got nothing to do.So then the other payment they gave him $10,000 to performin the Federal Nightmares music video.So he's saying that.That's, he believed that was his payment.No.And this is what you don't understand saying.
32:59If Dirk was giving Jam money, he was giving him money because that's his man's and he can't have niggas around him looking.No, 100% that part too.But I'm saying, take all that out of it.Just take Dirk and these niggas out of it.If a nigga go do it here for somebody and a nigga only get away with $10,000 and this nigga them flew to Cali and did all this type of shit and he's super hot, I can see why Jam is.I'm not saying it's right.But it's like, how the fuck the nigga only get 10,000?bands out of the whole shit.
33:26And then you ain't,you ain't put no money for a lawyer or nothing for thatnigga?I mean, isn't 10 bands like not thatout of the question for like a normal body?Granted, yeah, this is a high profile one.It's in Hollywood. It's kind of crazy.It's a millionaire paying for it, but
33:37it's not that out of the question.That's still a good chunk of change, but...I'm sure people get killed for less every week in Chicago.Yeah, a lot less.In other places, I'll be, you know I'll be everywhere.Yeah, all right, for sure.I've seen niggas get their melon cracked for $1,000.But this is some high profile ass.
33:53This shit ain't high profile.Man what?It was a nigga.It was Quando Rondo and his man's in a car.That shit wasn't, you know what I'm saying?It's another rapper, though, that kind of like,y'all, you got six-nine gassing it or he on therewith the Slothova Vine comment.
34:08So it was already-They would have put a million on his head for anything.Just because of how disrespectful and how much he talkedand how much he keeps shit up.If it was ever going to be a million on anybody here,niggas would have collectively put that shit up on six-I wonder if that ever got discussed.Like, maybe we got.
34:23Probably not.Rainbow head out too.So, first of all, nobody wants to do anything to that man.He is a federal informant.Right.I'm just saying.You know what I'm saying?It's way more, but that's, no, bro.
34:37Them niggas ain't get paid because smirk ain't had nothing to do with that shit.Yeah, no, 100% if that's the case.But it's just still, if a nigga only got paid 10 bans, I see why he's salty.But he's salty at a nigga that ain't had nothing to do with that shit.Yeah.That's how I'm looking at it.Yeah, no, I feel you.I see how you're running it.
34:53I'm looking at that shit, like, you saltyat the wrong nigger.Whoever told you what, did what, or whatever,if you chose to do it on your own,that was on you.Don't try to take down the nigger that got shit.He got Chicago.Yeah.
35:06How are you trying to take this nigga?He's taking care of his own familyand other people families,even help this bitch-ass-nagger family.$50,000 when you walk out of jail,niggas come home with nothing.He got 50 racks.What do you can do with 50 bucks?
35:22You know what I'm saying?talking about you only got paid 10 but likenigger that shit ain't how to do with dirthe also saidhe said that dirt is onlya leader because dirt had the moneyand that dirt really wasn't a street niggalike that that dirt wasn't if dirt
35:37didn't have money like that then he wouldn't be ableto be this leader for everybodyhe paying the pitcher tocriminalize dirt to say he a leaderdirt ain't no leader yeahyou go to Chicago police laughing at that shitthat man ain't no leader he just he had that's a little dirtHe got some money.
35:54He'd be one of the biggest robbers out of Chicago,but he's not no gang leader.He ain't no leader of none of that shit.Like, he literally jam doing and saying shitto make it look crazy.But you got to think this is a serious federal trial.The fans know Dirk ain't no leader.They know that shit, bro.
36:13They know that shit.They're around.They see what the fucking going on.A leader in a sense of Dirk probably ain't doing the drills,but they think Dirk is fun in the drills.I think that's what the feds believe.They would have slipped up already.If niggas got all of these eye clouds and shit can't be erased
36:30and they got all of this,you think niggers was really that intelligentto not slip up and send out some,all these killings that's supposed to be going on.They don't got nothing against that man.Not the Chicago shit, not nothing.They picked them cases up, dropped them.Because the feds look at shit and be like,
36:46I ain't going to waste my time.Not all of them got dropped.So apparently after this one, he's going to be charged.Well, they still got the Stefan M.that shit where they're trying to charge him for that murder or whatever.No, I think, I don't know.I don't think none of that shit don't come back up.I'd be seeing that shit on the internet, but if they dropped it already, they're not about.
37:04They didn't drop it, though.Like, they try to run a concurrent with this one, but the judge was saying, like, we're going to, uh.Yeah, because that's California and Illinois.That's too different.But it's going to be the same judge.Like, I think literally, because everyone think, even if Dirk get found not guilty onon Tuesday, Dirk's not walking home.I believe he's going to have to deal.
37:23with the Stefan Mac.So it's, damn.Right, instantly right after.Instantly, damn.Yeah.I feel like he can walk, bro.That's how it looked to me.I feel like he going to walk.
37:36I feel like he going to walk because from what I'm seeing,they don't have nothing against him.And you see what the judge just said some shit, like,told the jury they can't use.I've seen that today.Some of the evidence and shit where...They, they...He basically saying, like, you got to have him dead to rights.
37:54You got to have him...You gotta have some shit direct from him, a payment or something or something, don't go off other shit.That let me know.That's a win already.The judge is like, hey, I know how I feel about this shit.This shit's bullshit.This man ain't got nothing to do with this shit.From all your experience, from a nigga that, like, you know, you did jail time and shit.
38:14You don't feel like direct witnesses and word of mouth is sometimes enough to dissuade the jury?I mean, it's not because people can get up there and say anything, bro.But when they're listening to like three, four people saying like the exact same thing.I ain't seen that happening.The average juror, I don't know,I feel like they're probably going to be kind of convinced by the same story being told by a bunch of people.See, I ain't seen this happen in this case, though.Everybody is contradicting they so.
38:42In small ways, but the same general idea is pretty consistent, right?It's easy to get some little shit and cooperate on some little shit,but their stories is not sticking together.Nobody's stories is sticking together.So you got multiple different storiesabout this one personand none of them adding up.Yeah.
39:03Like, they all kind of got the same storywith a little bit of,this is how I see it, this is how I see it.But basically all three of these niggasis saying that Dirk sent them all to do it.That's what they're saying,I understand.So you know, for like, that's enough to swear the jury.
39:19Like, you know what they?So what real crime is?Oh, he sent us off to go to kill somebodyAnd we ain't never get paidThey're trying to say thatFor a murder for hireThe murder still happenedSo you can still get charged for it
39:36If you don't get paid itSo like the murder still took placeBut you just never got the paymentThey still got to proveThat he coerced orCalled that murderNo, just take Dirk out of itBut just like, do you feel like
39:50Even a juryYeah, I ain't talking about themYeah, do you feel like witnesses are enough?Right.You feel like witnesses are enough when you got three or four peoplewho are in music videos with youand claiming they your guys and y'all in group chats,is that enough to sway the jury to be like,
40:05nah, I kind of believe it,or you feel like there got to be more concrete evidence.They got to be more concrete evidence.Yeah.Because this is people life.This ain't know,all y'all are going to get five or ten years.Yeah.
40:15Even though they're supposed to do that shitwith that type of shit, neither.But it's a situation that way it's like,so what, what is?It was 10 years if it was an attempt and nobody got hurt.It's 25 if somebody got injured.It's life or a chair or that lethal injection shit when somebody dies for a Californiamurder for a life.
40:42So right now, everybody life on the line.Nobody's going to get less than 25 years if they found guilty.You know what I'm saying?Probably even 40.Yeah.So this would be some shit like, don't just listen to them.what a few niggas said just because they was around them throwing away no they need realdead as evidence bro and they don't have it so it's like it's kind of bogus to dirt if they just go
41:09off what these few people saying that's basically probably looking at they self like i gotcaught red-handed i'm used dirt as to get out of jail why why would i let him walk away yeah if thefed's asking for him shit we all going down yeahYeah.And the fact that they were all trying to be in cahoots with each other behind the scenes,jam making calls Devani secretly and shit.So there's a lot of reasonable doubt where you could play it, Dirk.So I can see him, it's a 50-50 right now.
41:37I ain't gonna lot like.I mean, it's the ultimate situation where, you know, you think that you and your boys areso locked in that you're just always gonna have each other's backs.And then when it actually gets tough, everything switch up.The niggas that Dirk don't know like that is the niggas that's doing with that.they doing.Boogie, solid.Didi, solid?
41:58Didi solid.You know why?They know him.They know him.They know him.He know them.So you knew Didi?Like, you know, that's on 50, like, too, though.
42:08So what type of person Didi was, because...Didi a thousand, bro.You know, Didi just beats murders and shit like that and came home.He just, you know, he got a great...His lawyer, I think his lawyer, one of the best ones up, though, from what I'm seeing, like, but...Like, but...Did he, he'd be like, damn, Did he.I hate he even in the situation with this shit
42:28because he's a good nigga and he didn'talready beat shit and got past shit.Yeah.You know what I'm saying?They're trying to label him a minister.Because he already done,been through murders.And you know, like, even if you're 100% innocent
42:44and you beat a murder, them people going to look at you,like, oh, that my god got away.That nigger, he got away.You know what I'm saying?Yeah.So you feel like it's one of those?They just trying to.Yeah, yeah.
42:54They're going to paint him.Oh, he's the, they're going to paint him as the ones.They said, him and Jam was ministers.Like, I don't know how ranking that is.But how the fuck they just going to label them minos.Like, ain't no, like, that's, bro.Yeah, who?I can't even get into that type of shit on this platform, bro.
43:12But they just, they're saying anything.There's something higher than the minister, though?Like, yeah, yeah, it is.Not a lot.You know what I'm saying?Yeah.Like, so, no, no, no.They, they just seeing shit.
43:24They just throwing that they did.That's what I was up.They paint a picture for them to be just menaces,like high-ranking gang members,making it seem like they got control over other peopleto help their case, bro.That's how they're trying to say dirt or leader.Because if they label them as menaces,
43:43what that make dirt, they make dirt higher than them.And as them, they're one of the highest you get,so it's like...Yeah, what would that be called?I know.Break down the whole structure.How's this right thing?What would that be called?
43:58All right.So, yeah, there's been a lot going on.So another main thing that a lot of people will,I guess duty low has been receiving a lot of flak,is because he's outside the courtroom,but also he is possibly conspirator number four.Didn't his name come up?His name came up multiple times.
44:16It came up in text messages.It came up through Jim.While Jim was actually on the stand,he said that he found out the next daythrough duty low that he was out hereto do a murder he said duty notold him why he was there to do the murderthen in text messages they're saying that duty low
44:32is one of the people that dropped the locationso still outside the jail broand he's been outsideafter they said that after they said thathe's been outside with shirts supporting dirthe had neon out thereeven after that was saidKayla B made a statement on
44:47Twitter I think she hopped on Twitter and shewas kind of upset saying that niggas out heremoving goofy making Twitch and doingTwitch and streams outside of courthouse.So it's like a 50-50.Some people feel like it's a support,and then some people feeling like,all right, how to fuck the duty low?
45:01Not in jail.And why the fuck you still outside that courthousewhen your name getting mentioned that much?Especially as someone that dropped a low, allegedly.Yeah, I'm going to keep my comments on myselfbecause I like duty low.But you're seeing when I'm dead look crazy.Like, they mentioned your name in this trial.
45:29And you said, like, he for sure was out there the next day.The 26 Chevrolet Tracks is the stylish SUV for those on the move.And with the standard Chevy safety assist package,you have the backup to handle every turn with confidence.The 2026 tracks, start your build at Chevrolet.ca.Nah.So it can't be enough.So it can be.
46:00I got the, I was a nigger, what?If they, I'm out there, they all duty law, they just said your name in it.I'm Biddy, I'm gone right now, right in the truck,going to get in the truck going.I'm going to switch trucks, all type of shit.All right.They own, they own me.They, they don't know.
46:12So then what type of mind state do you think he's in,if he's knowing that his name is being brought up in courtand he's still out there passing out shirtsand still being able to sit in front of the trial?What's his stance and how confident is he like?So confident makes you feel like he can't have anythingon his conscience.So it's like, that's what I'm saying.
46:31I look at it like he's truly innocent.And he probably like, oh, I ain't do shit.I know I ain't do shit.But one thing I know about duty low,probably a lot of them niggas,that's one of the niggas that love Dirk for real.Like, you got Dutty Lowe not from Chicago.He's from a few hours out.
46:46So it was like once him and Dirt linked in like that,he's been with Dirk ever since.It's been a long time, probably 15 years, 12, 13 years,shit like that.People like, even like when people going through shit,like grievance they show like that, people don't.show their emotions the same way as other people.So Dutti Lowe probably really out there genuinely
47:12like free my brother, ah-a-a.And other people would look at it like,his ass are fussy.Why is he out there doing that?Why is he even still out there?They just said his name, uh-uh-ah.But he's thinking like,that I got support out here for my brother.
47:26You know what I'm saying?Like it's just always, it'll be a 50-50to have people look at it.I ask you this, though,why do you think he wasn't charged?Like how does that make sense?Because if they're saying that they got,there's no concrete proof on dirt
47:40is all word of mouth and you got niggas like Jamsaying that dirt is one sent us off.Jim is the same niggas that sayingDutti Lo gave them the location and shit.They got it from Wee Manand I guess got it from Dutty Loa.Then he's, so it's like,how is he not in Jail?
47:55I mean that shitlike gotta be not.The thing about the fears,they're gonna do a little bit of homeworkbefore they even come and rap niggasand waste their own time.So there literally had to be noNothing of Doy Loe doing any of that shit that Jim
48:10seen that he did and Duty Low know it in the Feds Noah tooThey probably like all that niggins lineMan we didn't went through Doy Low phoneWe knew he had this phoneThese two, three phones and this month periodWe knew who he was texting, who he was callingThat never happenedAll right so is it a possibility that he's conspirator number four
48:29And he still doesn't get chargedOr conspirator number four is supposed to becharge. No, because if you're a conspirator on the case, everybody is like co-conspirators, youare Cody, you get charged. There's no way that you get out of that. All right, well, Wack is on fileon record saying that Dutelo told him personally that he's co-conspirator number four.When I talked to Dutti-low this morning, the first thing you did was accuse me of beingco-co number four. Oh, shit. So I don't know that's a joke or not, but. So when you hearshit like that. How does that make sense?
49:04It don't, bro, because, you know, I'm on, I just, I haven't been in two indictmentsin 15 years, bro. And nobody on my, like, you get locked up and you can get out on abond or some shit like that, but you don't just be a co-conspirator to a criminal caseand just be floating for a murder for hire.Right. That's serious. You, that means you played a part in this and,That you're co-conspirator.Like, you own a conspiracy with the rest of these guys.So I don't know, bro.
49:36He can't be co-conspirator for...He can't because he'll be in jail.Yeah, that's just a crazy thing to be going around telling niggas.But, I mean, to save face for Dutti-Lo, if he was snitching,they turned all the niggas that snitching to P.W. 1 or protective witness or whatever.It doesn't say anything that co-conspirator number four is snishing.The only thing that's confusing is,it's like, if you're a co-conspirator number four,
50:05how to fuck you ain't in jail?Exactly.Because he would be in jail.There's no...Especially if you're the one that dropped the locationand a nigga ended up getting killed.It's like, how to fuck you're not in jail.Exactly, because that means you played a part.
50:17You, like, if that was true,that means he made it happen.So he would have been arrested, too,facing serious time.There's two theories that...He can't be co-conspirator.Trench's news went and said thatco-conspirator number four is a female from out here and then now they're trying to say it's a weed man from out here right
50:34but at the end of the day duty low had to either get the low from that female or because all right they're saying co-conspirator number four is in the group chat with little dirk and drop the low so i don't think that we men or the female will be in a group chat with other o'ttf members right so sound like you would have to be co-conspirator number four but they are trying to say it's a weed man out here and i'm gonna just throw this out here i had a convoy withKondo and the knock convol and just from basing off everything I'm seeing in the trial,Kwondo and then was under the assumption that it wasn't OTF members that shot Pab.You could tell they're probably watching this trial and finding out shit they didn't even reallyknow because they was really, to be real, I'm going to just say, Pob really did some shitwhere he ran off on a plug and they thought it was some shit like that where the nigga Pah ranoff on a plug.They came back to Cal.
51:24And the plug came and got them and did that.They didn't know it was OTF niggas that shot it.So they're finding out a lot of this shit through the court system right now.And that's just some shit that I know personally because I had a conversation with niggas.So with that being said, maybe it is the weed man.And I don't know.But it's just like, I don't feel like for whack to say, do the low tone personally that he's co-conspirator number four.It's like, all right, that shit is not adding up.
51:49I don't know.Because I don't know.You know, it would be the internet.I'll be seeing a lot of shit.So I can't.I don't know.I don't know.I can't sit here.
51:59and say that duty low toe like that but he told me that right i ain't i'll just put it out thereand that's why i'm like what yeah i don't know he probably could have felt like he was a whileago and said or something like that but i don't know bro but still even it so coca spear the four not injail they still out basically like it's a random person like they ain't coca spirit of four right now isnot in jail and then i went and jumped the gun because the niggassook it told me personally he waswas co-conspirator number four so i'll put it out there because in courtroom it wasduty loads dropping a load you know what i'm saying so it was like all right then the nigger notgonna tell you that co-conspirator number four for a reason no for no reason right yeah like who to
52:42fuck throw himself in that type of scenario so i would just but what i will say there's nothing that saysco-conspirator number four it's snitching yeah so it's just like it's just like why the f***ingnot in jail though that's the only thing if you are co-conspirator number four yeah a lot of thatthat shit just not enough.Everybody will be in jailunless you just like a super evenI don't know.I only seen too many people right
53:04and not get no time.Like, I only seen that shit in movies and shit.People get like protective custodyand they move them away and shit like that.And they stay free from the caseif they helped them crack the whole case.I ain't never seen no shit like that in real life.Even with like Jam and I'm like,
53:18all right, jam, you tell him on his murder.How much time you think Jam will like get knockedoff?Like, they still get cooked.They're gonna tell them all well shit.killed all these people you admitted to these murders so you was really supposed to getlethal injection so we're just going to give you life with no possibility of parole so he damnthey're telling for no reason or like possibility of parole after 45 years 50 years some shit like
53:39that right yeah ain't telling for nothing bro by all niggas that tell tell for nothing they tell fornothing bro like you're still going to go to jail you can't walk the yard you can't have commissaryyou can't do nothing like you just there's no freedom they're going to have to go to PC foreverLike in prisons and shit in some statesThey got like a PC jailThey're getting into too much shitThey sent them thereThey got like sex cases and shit like that
54:04They sent them nowBut like niggas gonna have to PC up foreverYou can't just be a rat and just be outBecause niggas get on likeOh man I heard hisWe gotta see his workWe heard that shit badAnd then he rapped on a famous nigga too
54:17Like everybodyThis is niggas favorite rapper broYeahYou gotta think it dirt getting niggasIn the feds that gotB is 10, 20, 30 yearsand getting them through off the shit he's sayingthrough his words, you know what I'm saying?
54:30So it's like, they gonna see that they can come through that.I'm like, yeah, that's that bitch-ass, nigga that guy.Got a little dirt out the way, man.Yeah, maybe's gonna be on him.Because now ain't no more music.If he go to jail forever, you know, ain't no more music.So them niggis is, man, that man ain't gonna get stabbed to death in the first week.Damn, you think it's like that.
54:49I mean, shit, he's still, I don't know where he.I don't know where he got right now, but he's still sending messages on IG.and he's popping it.He's standing to my fuck, Dirk and all that type of shit.Man, they, can't they use that shit in court?That's what I seen a lawyer come on and said that it could be a mistrial.But honestly, I didn't see anything that he said that he didn't say on the standfor it to be a mistrial because he's literally just saying everything that he said on the stand.
55:13And he could also just lie and say he never sent that message up.And whoever wrote that shit for Jim on his page, your ass is a fucking goofy.And you something need to happen to you.Okay, but what about Jam posting on his story saying?hey this is where I live if y'all want to come see me this is where I'm at and then it came outbecause we all saw that and we're like what like you you want to die like he's challenging people to kill himand then it turned him down that actually that's where his sister lived and they were beefing so he wasbasically like trying to scare the shit out of her by making her think that she was going to get a shit shot up
55:44which I mean doesn't really seem like it should be a laughing matter but here we are that's that'sbut look he doing that to his own sister that's wild that like paints the picture of him as being a realLike go.He's the most low-downnigga on this earth, bro.Yeah, now that nigga walk.He's doing that shit to his own system.Like, he, I stay right here.
56:04Knowing niggas will pull up and just,everybody got switches in Chicagoor automatic ARPs or drakes.Yeah, a tough hug crib up.Knock all the wooden off that.Britten, cave the roof in.Like, man, yeah, he's different, bro.He's different.
56:21I don't know what happened to him.It was in that jail time.Something happened.with him but he's different bro it's a fucking up situation he said he's just trying to see his sonand be a father he had the opportunity to do that when he just got out yeah you know what I'msaying like to go back to what I was saying people make their own decisions you know what yousigned up foe yeah ain't nobody make you do none of this shit that you're not just hearingyour line because he wants you to be a superstar yeah um bitty folks come or comins you got to kill
56:51somebody today come on man like if niggas that no duck no dirt he'd be chilling he just gotmoney he's smooth like you know he ain't going calling that man making that mangoing on missions and nothing like that he had that when he got out that's he supposedshit I just missed 12 years I mean I'm having more kids and shit like that I'm justfinna you know Dirk with them would have still gave him money they was just heregave him money yeah you know you won the elites yeah make sure you good you straightso do you believe the narrative that JAN put out there that like Dirk was likereally basically wanted to get
57:30Kwondo killed because of the 6-9clips specifically. Because to meit's like, yeah, maybe that's like the bigloud viral clip talking abouta slide from Von. But you could imaginethat like the pressure he feels from the streets from random people heknows who might be DM and stuff like that. Like Ifeel like 6-9 didn't have to be there for that narrative to
57:49have legs. I don'tI'm trying to work just the right way. I don't feel likethat man cared about people saying any of that shit and I just feel like Jim made that upjam probably felt some type of way about that I don't feel like this nigga Dirk was really justah these niggas saying I ain't slat for Vaughn like nobody expected him to slide for Vaughnthough like that's his man's but he got Vaughn had a whole other group of niggas thatthe world would expect to go do some shit way before him but it's like this the nigga thisthem like this why they look this is why they paint the picture how they painting it
58:33this the nigger with the money he's a rich rapper without him his homies won't have no moneyso that's how they're trying to paint it all in some type of way we're gonna try to putthis murder on him because if his friends did do this and we got them red-handed shit theydon't none of them niggas got no source of income for him yeah that's where that shitcoming from bro so yeah i don't feel like i feel like jem made that shit up though butIt just goes into the real facts of this case.How do you feel about Traplow Ross getting impressed for his coverage outside of the courthouse?You know how I feel about that shit, man.
59:10Like, remember when he sat down before you at you, like, you fuck with Ross.And I'm like, who?I'm like, no, he's cool.Like, I'm not one of them niggas that as long as a nigga not getting up there just disrespecting people, dead people,and seeing Chicago and these niggas, this, that, that.he's sitting andhe's from London righthe's from UK
59:32he's from overseasgetting shit off the internetputting it togetherand making the living off that shitpeople would feel likehe wrong for what he's doingbut at the end of the dayhe's still giving light to a lot of niggas
59:47that people didn't knowabout him doing thesedocumentaries and shitthat he's doing and shit like thathe putting people feel like he gettingmillions of views he putting niggas random niggas from blocks and shit that rap and turning them up and all type of shit just regular street niggas and all type of shit because he's exploiting what niggas are already putting on the internet he just putting it together like look this what they're doing as a collective like with the dirt trial shit I was seeing some shit what they were saying like he was saying false information and this shit like that I was trying to press him or whatever but I don't agree with it you know like yeah I don't agree with I don't agree with I don't agree withno people fault niggas like that.Like even if you know, people try to fault y'all.
01:00:32They're like, oh, they, like, but I don't see it.Like, people answer the questions that they want to answer.They grow.Y'all ain't putting a gun to a nigger headand making them answer certain questions and shit like that.Y'all not getting niggas locked up, none of that shit,but that's how they look at it with the Vlads and the no jumpersand the Trap Lord Ross and all these type of shit.
01:00:52Like, you know?They got mad at Ross because he made a tweet where he said that,that Lil Durk is trying to blame Vani for this whole thingand everyone took it as like,Little Dirk is snitching on Vani.Everyone ran with it.But basically he said that-He mis-worded.
01:01:07He mis-worded.He's blaming him, but it read as little Dirk is blaming him.And that's where all the backlash started coming from.See, okay, so I'm gonna just say he should have justapologized for his word in it because Dirk can't get up there and say shit.So he can't say Little Dirk.He's saying Little Dirk defense team.And how they wrong, if Vani already admitted.
01:01:27it to all that shit.If Vani admitted to all of this shit,how is their defense team like,oh shit?We don't know.Well, look, Gianna, he said he did it.I think it's all him.If Ross had like clarified that a little more
01:01:43in his original statement, it wouldn't have beenas bad because what Ross said wastechnically true, which is like his teamis putting it on Vani, sure.But it's like if he had like saidhis team are doing it.are going along with what Bonnie said and putting it on Vaughneybecause they didn't say anything outside of what Vani had already admitted to.
01:02:04If he had like underlined that when he said it,it would have probably got a little less controversy.Yeah, he just probably was walking outside the courthouse type of fans.And that's exactly what it was.He might not have been thinking at that moment like,oh yeah, well, Vani already did cop out to this shit while or about, you know,like, so that wasn't like at the forefront of what he was saying.But I mean, you were talking about it.
01:02:22But did he get up there?Like, you know how he'd be?Oh, little Dirk is snitching.Not just like that.He didn't do no shit like that.So, look, all right.So this is where he messed up at.So, you know, they get like little breaks in between courts.
01:02:35So he has time to give everyone updates.So he's doing a video update.In the video update, he said the fence is blaming Vani.Because I say some niggas I know personally that I got a lot of love from the West Coast.And they bitch-ha-ass, nigga.Fuck you.Yeah, they're like, damn, ain't going great.They were going on.
01:02:53But the thing, his tweet read, read, like.Little Dirk is blaming Vani for everything.What the fuck?And then that right there.Oh, so, no, that looked like he was saying.Exactly.That what the fuck?The what the fuck added like.
01:03:06Tribalua, you was wrong for that.But he didn't, it read, it read crazy.And then he didn't know he from over that.So we don't know how he's talking.Like, he's not from the United States.Like, so I'm going to give him a pass every time.And then mind you, he tweeted out, going inside a courtroom.He probably in there another four or five hours.
01:03:24He walked out the courtroom to find out.damn, this shit viral's .So then it's like, you know,because once you make them clips and tweets,you gone for the next three, four hoursinto the judge to dismiss out again.He come out and find out like,oh, everyone's taking it like this.
01:03:37See, niggas got to know, like, this shit.Niggas is looking at niggas like himto his page to keep up with what's going on.That was the first page I was looking atwhen, like, to see what was going on in the trial and shit.Yeah.So it's like, then I start seeing others.Like, now my algorithm is showing me other people
01:03:54that's actually there and repuls.So I'm just looking at it.everybody's shit now. But he got to know like, you gotta be flawless with what you sayand how you say it, especially when it's pertaining to the dirt.Yeah, because people was on him about that one tweet for sure.Because, you know, like, you can't get out there.And then Dirk, Dirk ended up, I guess, making a statement through Dutti-Lo telling everybodyleave Ross alone and shit because he was getting like pressed outside of courthouse.
01:04:17You know what I'm saying?Yeah.Because like Dirk, he's a player, bro.He ain't pushing.He's showing him like, I ain't pushing the button on niggas.I'm telling my people and my fans.Relax, we ain't doing that we already are cause of some violent shit.Like, I'm just trying to come home.
01:04:32Y'all chill.Like, that'll look bad on him, too.Did you see the last, uh, the last duty low thing, but did you see how they tried to get on duty low for trying to hug India?And then I like that.That might be the best thing from the whole thing.The best meme.Hey.That man, skin bone, it's hard.
01:04:51I didn't see this kid.He, he, he did the run?Yes.All right.That's mean.Man, he hugged the lady like four times in the on the skit, but I look at it like, okay,cool.Look, if you don't hug her around Dirk, it's not okay.
01:05:09And I get that situation that show Suster and you wanna, you know what I'm saying, I gotyou, you see I'm out here for bro, you know, this shit, uh, uh, because it don't look likedirt getting a lot of support from, a lot of niggas you would think he was supposed to getsupport from type shit.So.In the sense of what though, because you expect what street niggas hopping outoutside of federal.Yeah, I ain't saying that.
01:05:28I'm just saying, like,you don't need,a lot of niggasdon't even be hollering free smirking shit.Yeah.You know what I'm saying?Like, so it's just like,man,
01:05:37like he,if he don't hug her around dirt,then it's not okay.If he never hugged up a four for real,it's not like,you feel me?Like, I'm from the rack.I know what that means she's like,
01:05:52what's up, bro?Like,you look crazy.It made him look crazy.It's either what the fuck you hugged me for or she just overwhelmed.Her husband fighting for his life.That's probably what it possibly is and it just looked crazy.So it just makes him look crazy.
01:06:09Yeah, but I don't feel like it was no malicious or ill-in-tint on Dutty L-N-L-O.So that's like, Dutty-Low loves smirk.No, 100%.Nigger Dirk and Dutty-Lose still be on the phone and shit.So it was like how much.That's what I'm saying when everybody's trying to make it seem like he possibly could be.It's like, bro.Irking Dutty's still on the blind.
01:06:28And I've got a personal relationship with Dutty Lowe, so I've never seen him do like no backdofwhen he's bitch his shit and shit like that.That's his man's wife.Yeah.I don't think he did.You know what I'm saying?It was just his mind.He said, what's up?
01:06:39But it's cameras around.So everything going to look crazy.The last thing I got out of that clip was like, oh, they might be.I got.I got.She hates his ass for pretty obvious reasons.You know, she whether directly or indirectly, she views him as well.one of the people that took Dirk away from his family and into the streets?
01:06:59I don't think so.I don't think she looked at Dutie Lowe like that.Hell no, because he's not the case.You know what I'm saying?But just in general, she probably lumps him in with all these other gangster-house foolsthat he's hanging out around, that she kind of resents that his life wentthe way that it went over the last few years because of, you know,she's not going to necessarily put the blame on him.
01:07:17She's going to blame the bad influences around him.But Dutty Lowe wouldn't be one of the bad influences.If that's the case, she doesn't know that.Dutty Lowe is a good nigger, bro.Good, nigga.Hey, you got somebody else out?Yeah, yeah.All right, yeah, yeah.
01:07:30All right, back, baby, back.Yeah, let them in.All right, so I got a few more things that I definitely got to give it on, get to you with about, right?So you was on live.Nah, you wasn't even on live.Q50 was on live with your baby mama Jasmine.I don't know how they ended up on a lot.But he didn't know that was your baby moms, right?
01:07:54So she put it out there.She said, yeah, my baby dad for Chicago or whatever.and then the comments start spamming your name.He's like, who your baby dad?I don't know where the fuck y'all animosity come from,but I guess he started reading the comments,and then he started laughing.Then after he started laughing,
01:08:11one of his words is like, he's like,I don't know what the fuck.She's mad at, me phone and shit.She's the one who decided to have a babywith a grown-ass goofy.The nigga ain't never did nothing.Like, popping it like that.So I'm like, all right, where the fuck?
01:08:26Y'all attention comes from.Why would Q50 even be that, be on that with you?Like, we're just coming from...But you seen the...After that, when I got...When I started posting videos and shit,like, he from basically one of my old odd hoods.Oh, okay.
01:08:40You know what I'm saying?But he's a key...Trapped City?He's a kid.He had a kid, nah, or drill city?All right.He's a kid.Oh, yeah, drill, so he's not fun.
01:08:46All right, work.He's a kid.Now, then ain't nothing to do with $6.00.There's some of his mom shit.Oh, right.So this is just...This ain't got nothing to do with 50-knife.None of that this was strictly.
01:08:5970 night.And the only niggas that I ever had a problem with up there type shit.So it was shit going on.But I just look at it like, Shorty knew who the fuck out was.That's why he threw that shot out there.So his older guys kind of like, know you can tell shit.Yeah.So here's older people from Saturday night?
01:09:14Look, sure, yeah.That's like, I don't know what they got going on and how that shit, you know what I'm saying?But I don't know.Y'all don't know.I'm not letting nobody just say anything about me and that shit.But he is Shorty, so I left that shit away and said.I had to realize he's a kid, bro.a kid, bro.
01:09:29Yeah.That nigga 22.Like he...Yeah, I wasn't even around the same.That's what I told him, bro.When I was, you weren't even born, nigger.I was 1450, we were spanking them.Like, I ain't gonna get into all that, like, that shit, oh shit, it is what it is.
01:09:44But when you saw the bloodhounds blowing up, were you thinking, like, ah, ops blowing up?Or are you like, it's so many years in between my generation and their generation?I don't know.I don't know.None of these little niggas.You know what I'm saying?Like, they, now, they're sure.The 90s, they're just left out their teens.
01:10:01Because you're what?You know what I'm saying?Early 30s?35.And how old?So is it used?20,22, 23.
01:10:07Huge age to get right there.Come on, bro.So I'm not,I'm not beefing with no kids at that.In Chicago,that's like 100 years.That shit, you feel me?Like a huge difference.
01:10:16It's like a huge difference.You know what I'm saying?Right.Y'all seen a lot of niggas didn't sit in front of y'alland they make it back.You know what I'm saying?Like, the niggas don't make it to this shit, bro.Like, so I just looked at that shit like, you know,
01:10:27I wasn't even supposed to do that with that little nigger on the internet,but they're just like, just don't play with me, though,just because I'm chilling.It's 79 shit confusing because now I'm hearing Q50 from over there,then Jim from over there.It's like, who the fuck?Because it's a lot of, like, Chicago, like how Vaughn had the worldlooking at 63rd.
01:10:4263rd is not just ducking that shit.63rd go through the whole Chicagofrom one end to the next.Yeah.That's how all the streets is.79, 69, 63rd, 50s, all that shit,50s, like, all that.It's just like it go up in numbers,
01:10:57and go over in names.So Jam would be from setting night from Vernon.Probably 10 or 11 blocks east would be, well,the Bloodhound shit supposed to be Maryland and Ingleside.All right, right, right.So they ain't really not connected, but they just wanna say.No, but them niggas is together though.Them MTV niggins in the bloodhound that day,
01:11:23but that's some, you know.Right.They in cahoots.But a lot of niggas not in cahoots.Like, it's like with 63rd, it'd be like niggas from right here on St. Lawrencedon't f*** with these niggas from Western and shit like that.Like, you know what I'm saying?It just, a lot of shit, a lot of niggas don't know each other.
01:11:40Chicago is huge.Like, that's what people got to understand.Like, it seems small because we had so much beef in our area.Yeah.But we just one area.That shit get way more.You got the thing is up north, out west, the suburbs.South suburbs, west suburbs, like way over east.
01:12:02Like, yeah.Now, when you go back and look at hindsight and you see how, like, everything's playing out with, like, OTF.You see how she keef played it.And then you also look at, like, how 600 played it.It seemed like y'all didn't take as many losses that, like, early on y'all did.But then it seemed like everybody kind of, like, grew up and moved accordingly.Kind of like how Cheeky Finnem did.Versus now you've seen how everybody else
01:12:29is still like niggas is dying or getting caught up.It seems like...Knowledge, bro.It's just you got to learn how to adapt.Like, we're really in a jungle for real.So you got to really learn how to live out therewith them snakes, them venomous snakes and the wolves and shit, bro.So it's like, you know, we took the hardest hits fast.
01:12:48So on the 600 came about, we lost five, six niggas.A year and a half two years.So it looked like, damn, we...So that's what made niggas turn up for real.Yeah.That's because our little niggas was just out there danglingwhen we're telling them, like, they're not playing.They're coming through this bitch blowing.
01:13:04Like, oh, woo, just did this.Ooh, y'all need to get put up.Type shit.They was just out there still because our blocks is fun blocks.Outside, barbecue and music playing.Key is all type of shit.So my fuck is just, and niggas was always coming through that catching something.Because folks in them just thought that shit was, you know.
01:13:22But not the case with everybody,but with majority of our shortage.But you proud, are you proud of how, like, how, like, 600 is kind of like,because you see how my niggas together, like,yeah.Niggers that we don't lost in Dwin did 10 years, 12 years, 5, 6, 7 years in jail.Like, you see, beans just did 17 years just came home.It feel good to steal seat niggers that I grew up with.
01:13:45Like, yeah, some niggas died.We miss Ede and Stella and Leboo and, like, you know,all these types of people like, little stee's, but it's like,we still gotniggaswe still gotlike I still gotmy sandbox
01:14:00niggasmy day onesyou know what I'm sayinglikewe just lostjust a few peoplebut it's likebroding them
01:14:06that's a doubtbecause they stilloutsidethey're still in the rightlike I just sticka movewhen I come inand I'm out
01:14:14folks and themstill outsideevery daythey ain't onposts on them blocksand shitlike doinglittle niggas
01:14:19shitbutthey stillthey party inthey party intheydowntown they had events and shit like600 be outside so
01:14:27it'd be feeling good to see that shitthat's why I go with them we pop outit'd be a movie even when we go to the hoodthat should be a moviesometimes it'd be overly a moviebecause like last time we seen you popped upout of here yeah we hadmixed reviews let's talk
01:14:43about it so lookyou did some gangsy shityou came up here did a whole interviewyou had a you had acast on your footI asked you aboutAnd I didn't get shot in my footMan shit
01:14:57That's what I heardNick I don't know why nigga said thatSo lookAlright you did an interviewYou had a cast on your foot rightYeahBut you never mentioned that you got hit upNothing to fuck
01:15:08You know what I'm sayingSo we don't knowWe go before youSo pretty much there was an interviewOr a vlog with you Grove HeroIn 051Wu had walked upUh huh
01:15:18It cut offYou go to jailand then all of a suddenthey dropped the real footage.The footage leak of what actually happenedat that interview or during the vlogand shots rang out.So now it looked like
01:15:32niggas started throwing that you got hit up.Then also a thing that wasBig Grove Hero went onlineand he was kind of complaining at you.He was like, man, this nigga Breezy got megetting shot out and shit out.Hanging out with his options and shit.Nick got me and some shit.
01:15:48So like, for one,now we see thatit was an actual altercation when you and Woolmet, that was threw everyone off.And did you feel like Grove Hero did too much?I said too much.So, like, in the beginning,I was mad at Grove Hero and shit
01:16:02because that was my first time meeting them.And, you know what I'm saying?Like, so, long story short,where that park at, it's a Southball league.My pops and them shit up there.So I had a lot of people family up thereand shit like that, too.But that's on the end of Washington Park.
01:16:19Washington Park go from 51st.to 60th and King Drive all way over the cottage.Yeah.So that's, you know, 51st and cottage and all that.That's fooling them shit.That's the wise shit.So I'm really out of bounds on some real shit.Like, keeping it real, I'm out of bounds.
01:16:34But, you know, me, I don't know, I ain't go f***ed out of that, whatever.So, Shark called me up there.You know what I'm sure?It's my real cousin.My real blood.Shout out Shark on land, man.So he tells me like, yeah, Gropeerope, he's doing a tour with his trucks and shit.Ooh, pull up and barra.
01:16:49I'm like I was just trying to pull up on the block anyway so I hit my pop's like you at the partyyeah I'm trying to pull up he man pull up nigger so I pull up pull up pop's jumping the car with meI pull around jump out I'm hollering they grow hero and shit and them you know what I'm saying theydoing the whole blog and shit they talking to me about some peace in the hood and shit I'm tellinglike you look this my op shit right here I don't need supposed to be right here you knowyeah but I'm like whatever but whatever for the keys whatever have you want to let you knownow everything on camera that shit just just having just having justlike that all right you know but I I ain't mad at Groh Hero at all I was at
01:17:26first because of the little shit he was like trod but that's who he is that'sthe per he a comedian he played on internet yeah but niggas know what the niggasknow what went on yeah but you didn't put it out there like the internet thevideos came out so it's not like you win some street shit I can't yeah no 100percent so I can I can mention what they seen already yeah because it's out thereLike we seen the footage, but the thing that is shocking, or not shocking, but the thing that'skind of like f*** up about it, because Wu walked up on y'all and then y'all have a conversationwhere it looked like y'all was trying to like patch up shit somewhat.
01:18:02No, it was going to go left.It was going to love.Instantly?Yeah, because, no, it was cool in the beginning, but it was going left because when yougot there like, man, but did I disrespect?I felt like he was playing stupid with me now because you did some troll and shit on theinternet some weeks before, and me and him had just had words.I'd never seen Wu face to face in my life
01:18:20so the first time we ever seen each otherYeahSo it's like you knowBut I'm getting calls from niggas like all yearYou know they're doing that unityPeach in ChicagoAnd they all yearWoo woo
01:18:30Every time they say his nameLike yeahYeah I'll talk to themY'all gonna you'll have to holler at himAnd this and thatI never was gonna be the niggaThat was gonna step in front of anybodyAnd talk to anybody
01:18:39RightI'm not trusting that shitI'd have to happen with DevonWith D thingWith our D thingSo it is what it isButIt's just like
01:18:48When he walked upHe didn't say shit to meYou see it in the videoHe's talking to them likeWhat's this?Point at their cameras and shitAnd I stepped inLike hold on, hold on
01:18:57And I said that I'm like damnThen niggas told meYou knick's hollin at youAbout squash and shitAnd you knowYeah there he isBut I asked I sent to youWas on the internet
01:19:06I'm yeahBecause you was playing with meSo that's what a conversationGoing outBecause he know what he didAnd words was exchangedSo you knowbut that shit
01:19:17that shit happenedyou knowdo you feel like maybeyou're out of place in your lifewhere you shouldn't just beon the blockin a park that's like directly acrossfrom your ops
01:19:28I was never supposed to be right thoughrightI'm bogus for thatlike it could have wenta different wayif you know what I'm sayingif there were better shotsif I was
01:19:37it justthat shit could have wentif I wasn't who I wasthat shit would have wentlike my phone's out thereso it was likeI shouldn't did that.I'm tweaking.
01:19:48You got on shark-ass too.In the clip, Shark let him walk up a little bit too long.Niggas look back.You got to think I went to jail right after this shit.So I really ain't even talked to kids about that shit.But me looking at it as like, nigga, you sink these niggas.You ain't say nothing.And then shots ended up.
01:20:04So it could have went even extra worse.I'm just glad that didn't put out the, like, you know, because that shit.I seen an old foot.It's not.I know.But either way, how do you feel?Because like, all right.Wu ended up passing away while he was locked up.
01:20:24Yeah.So it went viral because a lot of people, so I guess Wu, why he was like, you know,I guess he was living a double life.He got his street shit going on.But he also was like going to college, working a job or whatever.So when he got killed, people that was actually like classmates with him,someone made a post.And they were like, it's crazy because this is.
01:20:46guy Wu is like I go to school with him and he's the nicest guy ever like I would never evenhave known that he was in like some type of street war going on like he was like living his lifewhere he because you you gotta have two sides to you so you can't be like a lot of peopledon't make it like especially like gangster rappers and shit the niggas that feel like theyjust got to be too tough and all day and don't know how to be in certain rooms you got to havethat that being able to talk to a bankthe killer side of you, be able to talk to a mayor or some shit like that.Like, you know what I'm saying?
01:21:23You gotta have the, oh yeah, I'm a street nigger, but I can hold a conversation.I can conduct myself.But how many niggas you think actually like trying to like conduct, I mean, trying tobetter themselves and go back to school because he, he was getting the trade and all shit.Like, is a lot of niggas doing that secretly?Could you be hearing niggas?A lot of niggas is doing that, like, but surely like, you know, he's beenthrough shit. So when you were a street nigga and been through shit and took losses and been
01:21:50outside and had to do shit, like, you get to a certain point of life where you got kidsand shit like, you know, like, niggas can't do this shit. This shit look corny when we get to a certain age.It's like some shit just be happening them randomly now. We ain't just outside looking for,we getting money and we shit just still be happening because of old situations. Yeah.But niggas just ain't outside like with the shorties. That's shorthy shit.And then outside for sure these toting pipes, putting guns in the videos, and just on a block all day selling nicks and dimes and shit, bro.Like, no, you got to elevate.So what he was doing, he was doing right.
01:22:26He was doing right.He was securing a bag for him and his.It just so happened.The shit happens.Yeah, because it's not that many people who actually, like, just go get a job and, like, try to go straight.Like, we hear a lot of people, like, they go get their CDLs and might be on some truck driving and shit.but like it ain't really too much.Like how many people really going to get a like a real full-time job?
01:22:49Exactly.You know what I'm saying?Like a lot of niggas, they got too much pride for that shit.I know I do.I'm not.That ain't, I've never had a job in my life.But is it pride or is it too dangerous?Because like you're too famous.
01:23:00Yeah, now it's dangerous, but it's like I've just,the way I live my life, I ain't ever needed no job.Yeah.So, you know, like, I'm blessed.I'm blessed to not have to work on 9-5.But do you feel like even niggas dad's,like a part of y'all age group or a part of any of that shit can go get a nine of fiveand a bird like not that far away or it's probably still catch up to you i know a lot of niggas
01:23:24they got nine and fives right now and they still prospering tight shit and they're working walmartor niggas work but you just got to know where you at yeah because if you ain't a nigga thatkilled five six niggas and got down on niggas you ain't really you know what i'm sayingyou're from somewhere and you was outside with them niggas and you probably shot a gunsomething for a fucking. They ain't just going.They ain't just looking for you.Like, yeah, we're going to drive out45 minutes, 50 minutes to sit
01:23:49on this nigga job and kill them and have to make itall the way back.Yeah. Niggas ain't doing that for real, though.So, like, it got to be some real, like,oh, no, we got to get dude with ass.Like, he did that shit.Oh.A lot of niggas has got jobs and trades
01:24:05and shit like that. A lot of niggas I know personally.I'd be telling niggas, like, I'm proud of you, bro.Yeah.Niggas be really doing the right thing.But that's okay.we're getting older bro you gotta think we've been this Chicago drill shipping going on for how longnow y'all it's 2015 years you feel me 2011 I feel like it's the jumping off point I came in it'sstrong in 15 so it's like you know what I'm saying like this 11 years for me like just look look
01:24:30look at who's still here who not how niggas died who doing what how certain people doing thatsteal here, like just, you know?It's a blessing, though.It's a blessing to be, like, come from out of that shit.Did you see the video a lot of the day where Chee Keith Keith, he went to Chicago to go perform for Ye?But he was sitting outside of liquor store and shots rang out.But they weren't blowing at him, though.Yeah, but it just...
01:24:57I sent the real video and heard the audio and shit.You hear Soul's the Toot.They're blowing it, boy.They're blowing it up.They're like, no, we out of him.Right.You know, but it's the right.You feel?
01:25:08that he probably that shit probably made he probably got in the truck oh I'm bittyhe probably loved that shit but it's like no but he's still like I'm gonna go homefuck that yeah at this point he's like this shit still had like he ain't he know he ain'tmissing shit yeah in Chicago like it feel good to go home and get embraced he got a show on the12 that bitch front of me where you performing that it's like some theater or someshit like that I think it's downtown oh either I was up north somewhere I'm but it's on the 12though so for the longFor the long as there wasn't even letting him perform in Chicago at one point, right?
01:25:42He performed twice, though, at that summer smash shit.But that was all recent.Yeah, cold minute.So recently he's been...It's all recent.He didn't...Like the last two, three years.He didn't step foot in Chicago for probably over 10 years, but he also, like, didn't perform for, like...
01:25:55Like, pretty much since the beginning of his career.I don't think he ever really did a show in Chicago, right?Yeah, because he ain't want no reason to, bro.You know, the police was...Yeah.Like that.So it's like...I mean, this drill rapper is way less popular than him that they didn't let him play.
01:26:08either.Yeah, for sure, sure.But they would have tried to do what they're doing in the dirt to him if he still wouldhave been in a mix with niggas and shit that was going on and shit like that they wanthim bad.They want to Sosa bad.He used to be on the block.They used to pull up helicopters and shit, trying to get this nigga.
01:26:26But there's so many people outside they can't get him.Can't get him.Yeah, them days used to be fun and shit.Speaking of Sosa, you hear that lyric on the new Pushai's album and you think he was shootingat Chief Keith with that?What do you say?said like I turned my city up and stayed down I can't go out like Sosa I mean take it how youwant to take it and some people would be like he just saying like oh I ain't going to leave my city
01:26:48I'm gonna take it over it's just like a random shot but there's my theory push ice you don'tknow what's going on in Chicago probably really outside of who dirk is there any chance thatdirk Memphis is like a smaller Chicago right but I'm just imagining he's had private conversationswas with Dirk and Dirk probably told him what he really thinks of Chief Keefe.And I feel like Poo Shasty is the one who will actually just say that shit in a barbecause he really don't give a fuck.He seems kind of unhinged.Where are you getting this from?
01:27:18That's my theory.But they didn't put with each other for mad years.Although I had people telling me right before Dirk got indicted that Sosa and Dirk werecool that they had done song, that they were probably going to pop out and like do something.And it never happened, but he got indicted.So I'm sure they would have put a halt to it anyway.You know, it's a lot of egos and shit, bro.And with all of the bigger players from our side,
01:27:44niggas ain't did songs together in a long time.Speaking of Reese, Dirk, everybody likes this, niggas togetherbecause it's always a little personal shit.Everybody got a little secret beef or something to shit going on.Because it's like, you know, when you, you, you,niggas have been friends, whatever.It's been cool.Shit, it don't happen.
01:28:02Yeah.There's money involves.business involved, street shit, all type of shit, bro.Shit.If they're saying Dirk was mad at Vaughn, he definitely mad at Sosa.If you felt like Vaughn, if he was mad at niggas for not sliding for Vaughn, I knowyou mad at Sosa then.That's what they're saying.
01:28:20I'm probably, I never, I can never be mad at Sosa.Sosa did what the fuck he was supposed to do.He did it right, man.He got his money and got the fuck on down.But he always been that smart, bro.I always said that shit.He always been that intelligence, bro.He ain't stupid.
01:28:33He ain't done.He also just has always seemed like he's on another fucking planet where like,you kind of just assume that he don't know or care about what everybody else is talking about.Yes.This nigga got a fleet of cars that niggas a dream of having.His house would be looking like arcades.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, when you run into Chief Keefe, he'll say some shit to you that will make you remember like,
01:28:55oh yeah, you ain't thinking about the same shit as everybody else.You're on your own, your own path.Yo, I wanted to know how you felt about King Yellow coming out and saying that he's brokeand that his son went down for a bunch of armed robberies and allegedly NBA young boyput up 30K to bail his son out.He raised, baby.He raised me.That's some good content.
01:29:18I'm, I'm, you know, I'm a grown man in front of you right now.I'm going to do a lot.I know how much I hate this now.You know how much I.But I can never laugh at a man for going broke ever.Like, no matter how goofy or how I can't laugh at that,because I know how that shit be.I don't know how flat broke a few times.
01:29:41I'm like, I just came home, bro.Yeah.I'm back, though, but it's like, I came home with shit.You know, you come up from jail, you don't have shit.Spending lawyer fees, all type of shit.Still taking care of bills when you're in jail, got to take care of yourself.So I was like, with his situation, like, you know, never know.nigga might need to go get a job and he might need to go get a 9 to 5 because you
01:30:03feel me because you feel you work at a warehouse or something like that becausethat shit that that YouTube streaming shit that you know vlogging that shit thatthat less some little money that shit I get what's a couple thousand or twothree thousand that you got to do numbers though yeah like YouTube don't pay whatit used to pay so it was like you got to do real real real numbers and if youjust doing some tiny numbers you're getting 17002,000 a monthyou can't really do shit with that like kids youyou grown.
01:30:30Right.Another thing that stood out that he said,he said,that Bloodhound,Jeff and Vano,1700 ruined his son's life.Can't say that.Them niggas.
01:30:43He let his son be influencedby other niggas like that.You know what I'm saying?He was supposed to be teaching him.No,no, you don't be influenced bynone that they do like.You know what I'm saying?
01:30:53Yeah.No, that's on his part.None of your kids.enough to like be paying attention what's going on.My son a nerd.Yeah.He don't know about nothing.He goes to one, like the third best science high school in Illinois.
01:31:17Like he's 14.That's kind of like the cutoff point where he might change.No.No?Okay.He is what he is.I love where he going to life.He's going to do something with it.
01:31:29So, you know what I'm saying?He ain't on all this shit.He's saying, he's seen, you gotta think I just went to jail again.That's all, I'm writing him on a tab to tell him, son.Just remember, look, how many times out your life,I don't left for some fast money.Like, you know, you enjoy that shit when you get,but realize what I'm doing ain't right.
01:31:47Like, yeah, like the represent, the music and shit cool,but you know, that shit public record,I got an all drug charges, bro.Like, you know what I'm saying?So it was like, that was just my life pathof the shit that I chose to do.I know what the fuck I was saying to no phone,so I'd never get up there and complain
01:32:02when I got to take my head.What's your biggest regret?My biggest regret,because I've always went to jail for other niggas.I always walked into open casesfor other people.And I just be one of the small peopleand like, oh shit,
01:32:21so it'd be dumb shit.And my regret be like not beingas smart as I know I can be.stop moving fast and doing shit for fast money.Like that shit, we're wearing work for it.I miss a lot of time on my kids' life.I don't f*** up shit.When I was the most turked in this shit,
01:32:42fed up went to jail for two years.You know what I'm saying?Like, every time I get here with the music and all that shit,I go to jail.Every time, bro.Every time you gotta think 20, 2017, 2021, 2025.It's like to repeat the cycle, you know what I'm saying?So I wish I could have did some other shit.
01:33:08But I chose my role, bro.That's just, you know, it ain't too late to change,but it's just like I just regret not beingbecause I was an un-a-rored student.So my kid is being intelligent and don't.Like I knew that it was going to be smartbecause they're smart too.Yeah.
01:33:25It's just like I could have been a architect or something.I could have did some shit that made me some real money.It probably would have to take timeand I would have to go to college and shit like that,but that wasn't the environment I grew up in.You kind of got, like, forcing this shit, right?Yeah, for sure.That's because of where I'm from.
01:33:43You know what I'm saying?I didn't have the upbringing to be able to go do that shit.I ain't graduate from high school, so, you know,it is what it is.I ain't complaining I love my life, though.This might be a crazy question,but if you could bring one of the guys back,who would you bring back?
01:34:00That's hard, bro.I can't just pick one.You gotta be a bundle.Even if it's from Jill or bring them back for him.You gotta be a bundle.I can't just too, like, I, if I could bring nigger,every, nigga, Ede, Stello, like, just, at one,if I can bring LA back, I wouldn't even be in a rapper.
01:34:23I was just been supporting folks.Like, it's, it's hard.all right, you can't say.Yeah.Because I love all my niggas equally, you know?So everybody had a story that, like,it's just like a what if with folks now.So, yeah, I can't even just pick one nigga.
01:34:42Not even niggas, you got to think.I can't pick C-Day from nine.I won't both of them.I can't pick nine and C-D-Rose.You know what I'm saying?Right.It's just f*** up, bro.Which I, which loss hurt the hardest.
01:34:57even if you lost a nigga to jailor you lost a nigga to gun violencebut which one you felt likejust that was the one that hit youI would say with the jail shitthe Rose hurt the hardestbecause he had innocent menyeah I hear that a lot
01:35:10and he really would have been out here doing somethinglikehe would have probably been with Sosaor something shit like that doingsomething he'd probably have been a big rapperjust a nigga like Tatobut big it's like anythingjust you know
01:35:24that's coming fromwhere you're frombut it's likewith death, man, bro.See, Devon hurt me for the fact that, like, he took his last moments in my arms and shit.So you physically got to?Like, that, and that was one of our, like, first real, real, real losses.But then it's like, niggas, like, Ede, too, like, this is my brother.
01:35:51Like, we made it so far.And you died on some fluky shit.They ain't, you know, how shit to do with nothing, not even in the hood.none of that and you think like damn we made it already so it's like a lot ofshit be an eye-opener because it's like no it ain't can't never put your guard downcan't never get comfortable like especially if you just in the city of Chicagothat city don't love you we love that city but that city don't love us and it'sf*** up but they either he'd hurt the whole block but then even damo like
01:36:28Like, D'Amow was just unexpected.And them to keep, keep pieces to the neighborhood, bro.Like, that really came from, since I was five, full, six years old,grew together.Like, shit.Right.Yeah.That shit, it just be like, I don't know, bro.
01:36:47I wish I could bring out my niggas.But I wish I could rewind time from now to know what I know all the way back to before we even lost anybody.What would you have different or told everybody?It's like if I can have the same knowledge that I have and we all do like how can we slip upBut then again certain shit have happened y'all was getting forced into situations right so I was like for sureOur neighborhood was cool we was smooth like like like the police even like that's because we was always outsideWe was kids we was doing kids like hooping and sure rightWe had we didn't play on the on the court we had a crate they got on the pole and the in the alley
01:37:23You know what I'm saying niggas flipping on mattresses and riding bikes and and andand shit, mongooses and shit, bro.Like, niggas was doing kids shit.Niggas just didn't like us because our neighborhoodhad that field, that real family upbringing.Everybody lived right here somewhere,and we all grew up in some of a while.We cousins or something shit like that, bro.
01:37:46Like, oh, yeah.So do you think young boy made good use of his 30Kwith King Ellis-Sung?He bonded with me.Bond that man.I'm stuck on that.I'm stuck on.Can't get it out my head.
01:38:06Hold on.That's real?Or he bullshit?Yellow wouldn't tell us during it,but he did kind of make it obvious.I don't know why we didn't guess he.He's like,it's somebody who's like a lot of people's favorite rapper,
01:38:15so that automatically kind of narrows it down to like a couple people.And then like,yeah,he like dropped a few other hands.So I was like,damn, all right.That's who we got the 30K.But then meanwhile,
01:38:25we're interviewing yelling his son.And his son is smoking blunts,drinking leanhow is he?Was he like 19?I think like 19 18.He's like really young.It's just like
01:38:38I don't knowjust the optics of him drinkinglean and smoking bluntsand I'm like bro likeyou can't be chilling like thisyou got to work like you're in a bad spotyou need to get your shit togetherwhere some see heroes
01:38:53and other see egosBloomberg sees the eraof billionaire athletesWhile others follow the noise, we follow the money.Learn more at Bloomberg.com.I'm not the perfect parent at all, so I can't sit here and, you know,but that's on with him and with his son.I'm not letting my son do that in front of me.
01:39:20It's just, especially if you still need me to come bond your little ass out,you ain't got no money.You're going to listen to what the fuck I'm talking about.But I don't know, man.Did you see the message when I had hit up Buka for an interview?If you go look on his page right now, it's the last post.He sent my DM or he screenshot of my DM with me asking him,going to do an interview, and he posted something like,
01:39:47he declined the interview, but he said,I wish more niggas would say no to doing interviewsand talking to these type of people or whatever, something like that.How do you feel about Buka not wanting to do an interview?Is that smart?Is he moving smart?knowing everything that happened with what's going on.He said he ain't caught up in that case.
01:40:05Right.So he obviously moved smart.Yeah.I ain't never caught no case from this type of shit.Y'all ain't no relationship with Bougar, though, for nobody?I don't know about nobody else, but you know, I just...Not on your end.I don't know.
01:40:18I'm on shit, it's still the same.It's still the same.It's what it is.Yeah.Yeah.I just look at niggas like, all, you know.I still love him or whatever.Just, shit.
01:40:26I stay out, so, man.Just from addition.Yeah, sure.Sure.You can't let nobody do nothing to them.You know, but I just, some niggas, you just gotta weigh your hand.Like, you know, all right.I'm getting too old for that shit, bro.
01:40:40We didn't see Tay and all y'all get back cool, so I feel like it's still hope for y'all.It's hope for, yeah, it's hope for a lot of niggas with in the, like, it's hope.But it's like, you know, they gotta want that.Yeah.Because we be together.So they're like, you don't look crazy on the niggas that's together.They look crazy on the few people that just not with them.Not with us.
01:41:01Like, you know?Yeah.You got a problem with niggas come to the block,tell niggas, you know?We grown men, niggas are fighting hug after that.Whatever.Niggas ain't gonna up no guns and do all that shooting.And we don't do it.
01:41:13Never heard of that on $600.When you never backdode each other,never shot, and each other, that shit.So, like, there's real genuine love without a block.All right.Um, okay.How you feel about, uh, the,the Los Asoa Sama getting arrested for this crypto heist thing.
01:41:34That kind of was like a window into another side of what goes down in Chicago.We didn't know that the crypto heist were really going down.I didn't know what.I was locked up, so I don't know what happened with that.Oh, what?They ran up in a guy's apartment and like,and forced him to like, allegedly forced him to like transferers from cryptoand then niggas got the tellin.
01:41:54And he got books.So how to fucking get book?He was there.He was on the phoneI think he was on the phoneAnd he was on the phone and struck the niggas to do itAnd then it ended upHim getting booked
01:42:04But he wasn't the niggaThat ran in the houseI don't knock no nigga's hustleYeahHe's still a bitch thoughI'm still in the reasonY'all was beefing right beforeWith his things he had said
01:42:15And he dropped this songSo I was locked upAnd shit like thatI'm just waiting on him to get onYeahYeahAnd I'll highlight him from nowBut yeah
01:42:22I ain'tUh uh uhYeahNahThat niggaDamnYeahBut free them though
01:42:31You knowI don't want nobody in jailYeahI'm not no nigga hustleThey get some crypto moneyWhatever whatever that's coolButYeah
01:42:39Did you see the video G moneyIn a fight?We never reallyTalked about that on hereI ain't talked about it with nobodyButThe reason I bring it upIs because it's when
01:42:51Shekee went back to summerThat summer smashExactlySo it's just likeAt time Chi Kee go to ChicagoSomeEven though it wasn't his click directly, but Duop was kind of in the vicinity.I was confused at what the fuck was going on.
01:43:04I was too because it's like bloodbath members with and they all cool.I'm still confused to this day to what happened.I still don't know because it's like I ain't been canned like, what the fuck happened?Yeah.That shit just looked crazy though because it's Macy and it's G money.Like what the fuck y'all got going on?You know any of them.You probably know G money, but like, but they homies.
01:43:26Yeah.So I don't know what's going on with that.You feel?There was a lot of stories about these niggas jump these niggas,and then these just jumped them out of that.I'm like, no, I don't even, I'm going to stand out that shit.Man, that's crazy.I don't even want to know what the fuck going on.
01:43:43Somers Magic's again hot.Cole Bennett don't know he got.He don't know who he.He doesn't bring a street niggas in that way.Yeah, I'm telling you.That's what's going on.But Cole Bennett, like, from the early days, like, he started around.business out of Chicago
01:44:00but never really didalmost anything that really touched the drillshit now in modern timeslike he had a Q50 freestyle or likeVon off 1700 freestyle type of shit but likereally he ain't really like did justtoe into all that too much over the yearsobviously like dark and so so sure
01:44:17but like he never really likeseemed like he wanted to be frontlining for the newdrill artist it's a complicated businessto be in you could ask me I'll tell you thatyeahYou have to like cross over a little mainstream for him to pick you up and want to do some shit.Like he'll bring up like Vaughn off 17 and shit but like everybody ain't just.Yeah, you just pickethoos but it's smart though. It's smart because a lot like you a lot of
01:44:43niggas don't want to have your name attached to none of that. Shoot them up bang bangshit no more. Yeah. How do you feel about famous dix? He's somebody that's just been like he's alwaysin and out the blogs but he stay out the way a little bit too he don't really be dissing.A video leaked during this interview.him getting beat up.I just think that.Oh shit,I'm missing.
01:45:02Yeah,you got beat upfor stealing from a rapperin Vegas,I guess,and he's all bloodyand they're whipping himin like a parking lot.
01:45:07Oh,shit.You know,like,they painted it like,oh,these niggots from over hereso we ain't supposed
01:45:13to like them and shit like that.I've never been that person.I've always liked Dex old musicand shit like that.So just to see,just the shit he'd be going throughit's like one minuteit looked like he'd be out drugs
01:45:22and he f*** up oror he'd go on the shit.Like,I don't be liking that shit,bro,You know what I'm saying?Like, you gotta change the whole narrative with that shit.You don't want to be one of them.
01:45:33I was this rock-style artist, and now I'm up off drugs like the rest of these niggas.Yeah.Like, maybe I don't be liking that shit, bro.But I don't know.He gets a lot of flack because they feel like he left a lot of his guys, ma'huh.See, I don't know the story because I don't know that nigga.You know what I'm saying?Like, but it's like, shit, if he did, then, you know, karma always come back around.
01:45:56So, you know, that.I've seen them screaming and writing about people still in his money and shit before andthat and all type of shit like that but those niggas on them and shit like that buthe shouldn't love a okay d that's the main nigga I used to see him with back in the day on theblock it was it was him a okayd and reggie baby yeah he used to be reggie last too yeahyeah but they got they all got they on what shit going on though so I don't know I don't knowhave shit happen with niggas, bro.I mean, Dex got away from the GDs as fast as possible.
01:46:32He's like, oh, I got a million views.See y'all later.No, this wasn't his.He didn't want to come out on, no, I'm gang banging.He made a whole different type of music.Yeah.That he didn't come out, oh, no, shoot him up, bang, bang.He was making some whole other genre, bro.
01:46:49But he was getting hot being around the street shitwere ducking to him.So it was like he was using that.He didn't up off of that.So then that's why niggas got mad.like how you get on and then turn the eye to what the fuck we had going on.Oh, well.I'm selling out white crowds.
01:47:06They're making mosh pits.It's different music, bro.That's different type of money.I mean, it probably would have gone down the same way either way.But if he had stayed closer to like the street music scene and they had stayed interestedin what he had going on, that probably would have been a good thing for his career.Because the whole like drill community to the extent that that was a real thing, they kind of lost interest pretty quick.he decided he wanted to be a SoundCloud rapper.
01:47:31SoundCloud rapper was a thing to be.That was the thing to be right then.I think what happened is you start losing, like,aura if you don't got your block or people supporting you,that look like they on some shit.So like, if you're a one-man band, it started looking like,all right, I don't know.This nigga do.
01:47:46Exactly.He ain't got his niggas around him.So I think that was his biggest downfall,but then also it probably saved himbecause he would have been in either a Rico or shit could have been dead.But ultimately, it's like he's just,an example of like oh yeah like it's kind of cute and fun when you're doing perks and zans anddrinking lean but you do that for 10 15 years it's not cool anymore and you're just gonna be a crack
01:48:08good so yeah it's that they overdo you overdue the drugs i know niggis didn't been doing drugsthey all like what they you know what you choose to do with your life you ain't never hit the k2and jill a lot of niggs be in jail off the k2 my sally bro i always trying to happen manDamn.No, the Nick Marcelli have, they call them Epps, like episodes.This nigga, I have out three times in the cell.What type of shit he's doing?The Seale's so cool, though.
01:48:37Like, they like, bro, they six hundred.You gonna go to the hole with them, get them right.Like, I'm putting cold towels on this nigga head, pouring water on them.He's throwing up all over the...Damn, you're having to deal with it.No, I got the fuck about that shit.Yeah.I want to see, I'm look, bro.
01:48:55I'm, look.How to fuck I'm gonna get up out of them.Like, send me upstairs or something.Like, I ain't even.You go get a 24-hour lock in here.I'm here.Just send me upstairs.I don't go, fuck.
01:49:06Yeah, at that point, right.Because then they put it in an incident report,like, me and this nigga was from the fight or something.They moved you and shit.But, yeah, I got to fuck about that sale, bro.And I got next sale, those minds by myself before I got to sell you.So now I make the rules.Oh, yeah.
01:49:20Ain't no smoking to him.Yeah.All that smoke.That shit, I don't know why niggas is smoking.can they cake too shit bro like i get it you get out on the streets whatever but that shit isnot i don't know what that shit is bro i don't know what that's gonna be cheapest to get like whywhy is that the go-to drug because it's like cheap and easy to get in there it's on like paper andshit like that so it's like you know it's easy to get that shit in there so it's way more common
01:49:47to eat the paper that or just you smoke the paper but not like the actual like weed type shitthe flour we need no flour none of that it's like bring you inthe notebook.Yeah, yeah.You know what I'm saying?It's paper.And it's a huge headache for the jails now because they have to like search all thepaper.
01:50:02Yeah,it's bringing that shit in.Hey, niggas can't go outside.But even then,they'll mail it in too.So it's like some jails,they won't give you paper anymore.You can't get physical mail.
01:50:12And none of that jails are out of it.Yeah, they copy it and then give it to you.You can,you don't get the actual mail type shit.So yeah, hell no, bro.Like that K2 shit,I really like,if you've got family
01:50:25and you know people that's doing that shit,like tell them to stop using that shit.I'm really watching people turn into real zombiesand retar.Like, they mentally is gone.That shit frying their brain.That shit not okay.That's not okay.
01:50:41And that's in the jail is bad.Man, it's not the inmates, man.It's them COs, bro.Did you hear Mama Duck and Wackcrashing out on each other other day?I was just...Now, you was getting a little disrespectful.You know what they got going on?
01:50:54Like, how it happened?I see.the clip but it's like you know I don't you know I don't get into all of that's II don't know it was just they was dishing each other's sons and whack took itso he dissing duck heavy I'm like damn he just you know I whack but he get theyou say some shit he's gonna over go I don't know what the f'mma duck did orsaid but they was going crazy well that's somebody mama at the end of the day so Idon't even I just let that shit I wouldn't even be on live stream or her or
01:51:23talking to her any of that don't none of that shitSo it's weird because even when we asked Yella about it, he basically said that like,Mama Doug basically was talking too crazy to whack and she shouldn't be talking to people likethat if she don't want to get caught up.I mean, but still, as me, I'm not having a conversation at all.She wants to say that's a woman.You can't do nothing with me.You can't do nothing.
01:51:46So, you know, so she just got to say something.How can you feel like more moms having been outspoken?Because you got a lot of people, are they scared or is like not even?They ain't scared.They just, I feel like they're doing the smarter thing to how they piece.Duck Mama probably ain't got no peace for real.Yeah.People probably trolling her and talking crazy to her and disrespect to her son on a daily basis.
01:52:13It probably slowed down now, but you gotta think how much that shit was going on when he first died and shit like that.She probably really, like, the internet shit is a gift and a curse.Yeah.It's cool to have some follows and shit like that,but then it's always going to be people that's going to say the worst shit to you.Like, you know, because people say crazy shit to me about my people that's gone and shit like that.Like, it's just like, I ain't going to never see this.Block them.
01:52:39Do you even think realistically, if there were more parents stepping upand trying to, like, come together on both sides,could that stop or slow anything down?No.It's too far gone.No, it's been too far gone.But, like, once people at a, if you raise your kids a certain type of way to where they feel likeThey got a freedom to do the shit that they want to do.
01:52:56Or like they at a certain age and they're already outside and it's a way to foolfar gone, how can your parents stop you from, because what are they going to say, oh, I'mto put you out if you don't stop gang banging.Yeah.And you just go over to your homie career, but to your little bitch career or some shit likethat.It's people that's going to take you in.Like, it's like really no way to stop that.
01:53:15Like, you, like, your parents, you just got to have a certain love for them to not do certaintype of shit to put you in a certain predicament.Yeah, no, I feel that.Yeah.You've been seeing OTF Vonny dad make his claims and shit?Yeah, I ain't really been...I didn't see some little shit, but like, what are you talking about?What's up with him?
01:53:38He said a lot of shit, but the craziest thing that he said was he said thatVonny paid...I don't want to quote him wrong, but he said it's some crazy shit.He basically was trying to say that Vonie backdoor King Vaughn and was linking up withlittle pop and young boy and Cuano to do it.I'm like, how does that even make sense?How does that make any sense?That's what I don't.
01:54:04But he's on most, he's sitting on academics.He settled on trenches news.The only way that would be true is if everybody would be like, yeah,Vani told us to go over there or we was going to go here and Vani was like, no.This is not from, this is a separate altercation because, you know, they havemultiple.He's saying they pulled up on them in Georgia somewhere and it was an altercation thathappened, but it was supposed to be some backdoor.
01:54:23I'm like, what type of?No, bro.You know Vonnie?Like, did you know him personally?I don't know him at all.I've never seen this, man.Nothing.Because they say he's not like a street nigger.
01:54:32He was just like, uh.I don't know who the fuck he is.I never seen him.And what about like Brian Oz or flaka or any of them niggas?Never seen these niggas, bro.That's crazy.Never seen none.No, but I don't, D.D.E.
01:54:48Smirk.Jim.And that's it?And who else on that case?The rest of them, I don't know the rest of them niggas.I don't know the niggas.I sing Bougie around.You knew Boneymo?
01:55:02Like, yeah, Boneymo ain't on the case though.Nah, but he, technically he co-conspirator number five.He just...Huh?You know, he interferes for something else.He interferes for something else, but he would be cocaperter number five for sure.Damn.Yeah, I know Buna.
01:55:15And, uh, Zoo would be six.Yeah, okay, I think that, so that's true.Yeah, that's true.100% true.And Bounie Moe's allegedly number five, but he's a lot of five, but he's a lot of six.He's locked up for some drug shit right now.So what they're saying that Boneymo did, though?Shit, he was damn that helping drop the low.
01:55:31He was the one coordinating the shit.I mean, according to no.But co-conspirator number five was, even Dirk told him, like, after I saw look, jam didsome, Jam called this nigga Dirk and was like, man, why would you send us on that hit?No one that wasn't together.Like, he basically like on the phone saying some shit, some goofy shit, like, why wouldyou have us go kill?Like basically trying to like draw snitch.
01:55:54But then Dirk said on the phone, like, just go out of Boneymo.Like, trying to get that nigga off the phone.Like, I don't know what the fucking talking about.And then the niggas seen him at the concert.And one of the niggas, I think it was Flaka.He was supposed to collect some money.And Dirk said, go out of Boneymoe.So, seeing like Boneymo was a nigga that was either supposed to be handing out the paper to these niggas or whatever the case me.
01:56:14But that's what they're saying that Boneymo was that he was kind of like telling niggas, hey.I don't feel like none of that shit, true neither.Because if that's a case, then shit, niggas.They said Boneymoe recruited Jam.But how they y'all hummed?How are you going to be a recruiter if they're all homies?They already be around each other.I don't know.
01:56:34They said Boneymo brought in Jamand then Jam brought in the other nigga.Yeah, no.No, no, that makes sense.I don't know if that makes sense at all,not even a little bit.But Boneymoe was a nigga, you know?I know Boneymo.
01:56:46Like, where are you from?He from...Boney Moe from Saturday, but...So that makes sense because Jam from 79.But he from a whole other end.He like passed Ashland and shit.I forgot what block he's exactly from.But yeah, he ain't got nothing to do with none of that shit neither.
01:57:04Yeah.He ain't got nothing to do that shit either.That was, um, him and Rio got booked together type shit.Back in the day, Boneymoe been around for a long time.A long time, he's a good niggas too though.But I don't think he got nothing to do with that shit at all.Because if it was serious, that shit that he don't like, they were to extradited him over.They don't make you sit your time.
01:57:24He would have been in trial with him.So, because he's already in custody.He's already in federal custody.Yeah.They would just sent them right over to California.And he would have been fighting with them.Yeah.Can't be that serious.
01:57:37But his name was dropped a lot in that court.And through text, his name was dropped like how Dudley Low name was being mentioned.Booneymo name was being mentioned.We ain't heard nothing from like twin, Varnie.The dog.Yeah, for sure.So it can't.They're like, a lot of that shit can't.
01:57:52It's just hearsay.It is.It is so.It's hearsay.What it's like.It is making me sense, though.Dude, you're little crazy.I'd have got the fucking, bro.
01:57:59I'd have been.I go, what?They just said, what?Pack out all this shit up.Get the shirts.Get the shirts.At that point,leave the shirts in the box outside.
01:58:09Just letting nigg get it at their own wheel.Fuck you.Get the shirts.He said, get the shirt.Oh, shit.Man, shout out of dude a little, man.Yeah, man.Man, so you dropped still serving, volume two?
01:58:23I ain't even dropped that shit.You just pre-med it?Like, that's the cover art?Yeah, yeah, yeah.I was gonna drop it, what, like a couple days ago,but I didn't never get it mixed.I'm doing too much.So I'm just push it back like three, four weeks.
01:58:37How motivated are you to do music at this point?Or like, are you kind of slowing down?A lot of people gave up on rap.It's like now I'm only doing, I'm not doing it for no,oh, I'm trying to blow up and make it.I got a core fan base.Yeah.And I'm just going to drop music for them.
01:58:51Like my music be how I'm living and what I'm on at that time.So that's just what my music is.This shit, this shit I got.I'm, you know, I just got out.I'm doing what I got to do.Yeah.This shit hard.That shit, yeah.
01:59:08So I'm just dropping on some for my people.Like other people gonna hear it and I'm gonna get new fans and shit like that.But I ain't don't know, oh yeah, I'm trying to get a hit record.That shit just comes.Yeah.You still acting this shit?You're going to be in crosses four?It's a three, I think.
01:59:27It's the third one.It's already out, all right?No, they ain't out.They did the premiere and shit like that.Yeah, hell, yeah.But I'm really, I'm really getting into all that type of shit, though, bro.Like, you know, just acting, TV, all that shit.I'm trying to, with fashion weeks and shit.
01:59:43Like, I'm tall, nigger.So I'm going to get into all that shit, bro.Would you how serious you're going to take acting, though?Because I've seen you did, like, two movies, but are you going to, like, did youacting classes or you just was no bro people just it's like it's kind of easy because you knowwhat the like what we do like yeah when we shooting videos and shit like that you can learn how toact a little bit so like on the professional videos not the shit when we outside just you know you knowbut it's like it make it easy like it make it easy so I just be getting the scripts and
02:00:12shit I'd be looking over that shit and then I just be going off that you know word for wordwith that shit it be kind of easy so I what it though I with it I with it I wouldBecause you got to think, like, us growing up and shit like that, all the rappers had moviesand shit like that, like from no limit within, and then cash money and shit, baller blockingall type of shit.I got the hook up all type of movies.Like, the niggas we was listening to was doing shit.Yeah, and all the facts.
02:00:42Yeah, so it's like, shit, we need to do the same thing.Like, niggas ain't gonna wanna do music or hit the music forever, but niggas gonnawant to f*** with you in some type of way.They gonna still wanna see you doing something.Like, people don't give you a huge following for no reason.Like, they want to see you doing something.Yeah.Yeah.
02:01:00So I'm, you know, I'm just getting into different lanes of shit in life now.I got the capability to do it and shit.I got the sources and shit.So, you're just jumping into some different shit.But acting definitely gonna be one of the main ones though, for sure, for sure.Niggas are already trying to book me for two movies right now.No.We need you on BMF.
02:01:25Actually, that's done.Man, this nigga is.New power, man.It's 50, come pick this nigga.What's up, bro?I mean, I used to be DMing that nigga in there.They think put me on the show in the comments.Put me on the show, 50.
02:01:34Like, he randomly, like, commenting on my pageabout, like, Honeycomb Brazy.And I think they love to.Oh, that was on your page?Yeah.Like 50 cents randomly tapped in with honey.He just randomly will comment on Instagrams,and you always think, like, oh, like, he's with me.
02:01:49And then he's just, you realize he's just coming on a random account.Because I fell that way with no jumper once or twice.I mean, I'm like, he tapped in a little bit, right?Yeah, he tapped in, like, shit comes across his eye and he'd say something.But when he comments on your shit, you want to be like, bro, I fuck love you, dude.Like, I'm your biggest fan, bro, and you never want a fan girl.Yeah, but you don't be understanding, like, how we looked up to niggas growing up and so shit like that.So it'd be like, damn, like, you just want to be like, bro, that f***
02:02:15first album, nigga, that shit was crazy.Like, you just want to like, you don't want to do too much though, like, damn, niggaI gotta understand.Like, you're a fucking.I just want to let you know.Yeah.You had us on bullshit outside sliding to your music.Like, like the niggas respected.
02:02:29That's it.But yeah, I'm definitely 50 got the, he got the wave right now, bro.50 got shit, all the shows that you really watch.Every season, he got another show.Yeah.And he got the, I think he building like G-N-A-films.It's in like, oh, he been beefing with Hurricane Chris.Yeah, they've been going back and forth about the little studio.
02:02:51about the little studio shit.Like, how?Like, he gets this where he wanted to build him.I think I heard Chris feel like he ain't doing enough for the city.Man, when he built shit.He's in Shreveport, yeah, yeah.Like, some like that.Man, that shit Tyler Perry got in Atlanta.
02:03:03In Atlanta, that shit's crazy.That's crazy that now you could like start a whole business in somebody's cityand they'd be mad at you for not doing enough for the city.You know what I'm saying?It's like who the fuck else is starting business.It's about to be 200, 300 jobs in this.What's you're talking about?I'm going to be a whole neighborhood full of shit
02:03:19and I'm going to need people to do.Yeah, he's bringing value to street for it.Yeah, for sure.Chris, you tripping, but I forward you, though.And he's going to hire black people.I guarantee you that it's 50.You know, he's going to sprinkle the auditsy,but he's going to hire black people.
02:03:32Like, so Hurricane Chris can't say shit about nothing.So this is your first interview you did since you've been out.You're going to start making your rounds or?Yeah, I guess, man.I guess.Probably not.Would you sit down with season?What season is not?
02:03:48What season is not?No, no, bro.I went to, I went to,I went to jail for that.No.Now you know how to treat.You ain't got to do no street shit around him.Oh, bro.
02:03:56I'm not sitting down with that man.He got to get in the ring with one of us in the gloves.Him and Mimo getting kind of cool.They was on a live.They seemed like they got a little bond.No, what other nickers got going on.I went to jail for that man.For that live shit we did that.
02:04:10No, bro.And he didn't do it too much and said too much.He got to get in the gloves with somebody from Chicago.I ain't going to save me because I'm huge.I'm going to destroy him.I try to get you and yellow in there, man.You know, I'm with whatever.Yellow's been training, though.
02:04:24That's cool.He's in the gym every day.I see it.You know, I go to the gym.I see it.I pay attention.I ain't nobody going to sneak up on me and be like, oh, yeah, I'm already.No, I'm already, yeah.
02:04:34But I'm always down for that.You know that.For the greater good of Chicago, you know, on some grown men and shit.That would be a good one right there.But 6-9, he got to.Got to.Somebody from Chicago.Who makes sense for 6-9?
02:04:50a fight.Reese can get out.If 6-9 won a coupleboxing matches, everybody would forgetabout the snitch thing.No, they won't.But not fully, butthey're going to respect it, though.
02:05:01They're going to respectthe way he talked after that.But like, thinking about Jake Paul.Jake Paul was like, everybody hated him.Everybody was like, this is the most annoyingYouTuber ever.And then he won a bunch of fights, and nobodytalks about that anymore.
02:05:17I still hate Jake Paul.Because that Mike Tysonwould have knocked him the fuck out, bro.That shit was fake.You seen how everything...But you hate him for some new shit,not the shit that everybody hated him for him before.I didn't care to look and see who he was,
02:05:29but that shit made me like,okay, I hate him just like everybody else.Because y'all paid my man's mic to lose that fight.Y'all same time he was trying,he was, he'd get in the ring with him.He just, like, he literally was biting his glovesto stop him from swinging on him.If I knew that was true,
02:05:46I would have so much respect for Jake Powell.Like, look what a genius businessman.you are he got mike got this mike tice he'd be talking about i bet i bet he wishes he paid anthonyjoshua would have making a nice chill fight instead of getting his jaw broken yeah because thatthat one right there for him i don't even think he's boxing anymore at that yeah he hasn't yetand there's a lot of boxing experts say that he can't his jaw injury is a career ender yeahhe got his own league now right the most valuable shit yeah yeah but i wonder how much he mattersto that organization
02:06:19without being able to actually fight.I don't know, maybe he will fight again.We don't really know.He probably shouldn't hit somebodythat hits like that, though.Because that should...He got in there with a real one.Yeah.
02:06:30That's like all that playing with these bullshit fighters.Yeah.You got in that way.So you and yellow fight,y'all go three rounds.What does it look like?Got it going to all three?I don't think it's going on all three.
02:06:42What?I don't think it's going to all three.For sure, for sure.I ain't going on.Ain't going to...Ain't no first round.Knock out.That's what I'm going for.
02:06:50What?I'm not feeling going there and just dance around with him.And it's his animosity.So it's like I've been waiting.Like I'm not going in there to go and spar and play.Yeah.Going in there slugging off the rip.And we two big niggas.
02:07:05I hear hard.Yeah, that'll be the one to see though right there, y'all too.Yeah, you know, I've been asking for that a long time.I'm trying to line it up secretly behind the scene.I'm ready whenever I told you.He knows too.Like you training for your ass, man.He's in the gym every day.
02:07:21I like that.I've been working out for a long, long time.Would you fight Blueface?I mean, yeah, for the paper, right?I don't got anything.I like that, I got anything.I got anything against them.But yeah, you want to get in the ring.
02:07:32They're both kind of likebeing similar to build type guys, right?That'd be a decent.Hell, yeah, I do that.I'm not turning down with nobody.Yeah.Like, I'm already, like, the size that I am.Like, I'm not turning, like,
02:07:44I'm going to fuck with a nigga 300 pounds.I'm not turning down.like super-haguer, whatever, I'm not turning it down.I just don't want to fight nobody that smaller than you, you know what I'm saying?That's crazy.I want to fight people smaller than me for sure.You see, I wouldn't even consider me in six-nine.I would never, he's, you know.
02:07:58Yeah, I don't think you'd be able to make the same.Well, maybe you can make the same weight.That's not, yeah, that's not even, I wouldn't even do that.But, like, any nigga my height, my size are bigger, I'm with it.I'm with it.I'm with anybody.Anybody, anybody, you don't like me, you've been looking at me, whatever.them niggas is paying niggas to get in the ring come on you feel like you can embarrass me you
02:08:21feel like you got it come on let's do it i'm up for all contenders i don't go for what city what stateyou from let's do it let's note it man let's go seeks night breezy uh anybody want to shout outin your last words things they should check out um you know still servants who on the way you knowfor my my court people you know and she uh stay a lot stay aliveman get some money facts come on man shout out Remo shout out everybody who watch this nojumper coolest podcast the world like comment and subscribe and we'll be back real real soongo turn up 600 Breezy on all platforms go turn up Remo's YouTube channel and Instagram let's go
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