No Jumper - Gumby Confronts Adam and Wack for Lying on His Name!

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

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All right, so this week, we did a four-hour interview with Gumby, me Wack and Gumbi. The first half is here today. The second half will be dropping next Sunday, but you can watch the whole thing right now by becoming a Wack Pack member via the link in the description. So enjoy this half. Next half is dropping next Sunday. Wack is gone next week, so we can't record another one next week. But this one, that one, this Sunday, next Sunday.

Watch the whole thing on members. Go. That nigga said, I want to pay a white dude and watch him. Fuck you. Who wouldn't? He's supposed to be an Israelite, though. I don't know. Where you go?

Nick, your homeboy. In the back? Not his home boy. I had to call the Israelites. I'm lying. The Israelites in my partner, bro. What happened? No, that's the only buddy.

He had to clear it out. He had to clear it up. We had to clear it up. We just called him. I said, bro. He just told. He was just in the bike. I said, bro.

They cleared it up, though. What do you clear up? What do? Well, I mean, I don't know what he cleared up. You start the podcast telling them that. Okay. You can't tell him that with a straight place. So hold on.

There's no way. So I go into the No Jumper Live. Okay. So, and I remember he was tied to the A. Trades, but I didn't know if it was gangsters or hooves, right? But his name has been real big amongst the Israel-like community. He's been, like, on the West Coast, one of the guys. Yeah, he is.

So I never seen him. So when I walked in there, I'm on Brandon. And then somebody, like, said his name. I said, oh, you, you, um, and I said, Guerrilla Hebrew, right? He's like, yeah, I said, okay, the Israel-like community has some allegations for you, and you never was really given a chance to clear it up.

I said, I can't remember, but they were saying, so he, he started, one thing about it, he can't be real. So you have Army's panties are in your hand? Yeah, she's with me. What's the thing? All right. I'll keep my woman's panties with me. All right, all right.

Continue. What the fuck, bro. You spotted him, not me, bro. I'm just wondering what's the last thing. No, listen, hold on. You did 10 years in the shoe. Listen, so look. I was about to say that.

We not even go through all there right now. So, so I called Captain Tazarian because I couldn't remember. And his name has always been a respectable name when it comes to like the West Coast who are Israelites are, right, for speakers. So I didn't want to say some shit that was off. So Cap got on the phone and he said exactly what it was. He said, first of all, you say you want to pay a white dude to watch him as sex with your girl. And they community, he admitted to it. And then he said, this is the one.

You text to your wife, how you want to hit me with something bigger than what I hit you with. He tried to get hyped out. He was, listen, Cumbie, he can't be real. He said, I definitely, I said, well, you know when us as men hear that what it sounds like. He said, well, I was sexually stimulating, let her be mentally stimulated on the things she wanted to do to turn her own, but that's not saying I did it. Okay. Right? I said, well, we can't put on you did it because she ain't got no videos and she never said you did it.

He prayed about it, though. She released a text message. He prayed about it. So what I end up trying to get them two brothers to like have a counseling, that's what they do, instead of getting in. instead of getting into it. You get what I'm saying? He just walked out. It was a little crazy, Gumby.

I did admit to him that I woke up this morning where the ass face of me with my toes getting sucked. I mean, I don't know how people are going to take that. It was my first time experiencing that, and the shit was pretty cool. And I hope she'd do it again tomorrow morning. I would like to wake up like that too. One day.

Adam. It wasn't today. Okay, now today, today is politics with Gubby on Adam 22. Excuse me, Adam 12, I apologize. Adam 12 on Hoover though. On Hoover, though. Now I got one request. What's that?

What are we doing now? That you talk with your mouth straight. Wait a minute. Let me explain. No there. If you go turn your head, that's cool. But all our ass is you don't hit me with the way. In my fit.

Did you see yourself? I was fucking with them little young dudes. You know what I'm going to be? What? Like, what? Oh, my barber, man. They gave him a motherfucker with him ex-pills. They had a little mouth copped like a 62 Chevy for two days.

I'm watching you. And I'm like, why is this thing a mouth? For my mom. He was caught for two days. I've seen people saying that like, yo, he looks like you have an ex-pill. I'm thinking, nah. I'm like, not Gumbie. No way.

I was like, yo, I said this thing is three wheel motor. All right. All right, that's enough for that. Let's get to y'all to you. Okay. Get on him. this is your partner right you know it's another narrative going on against us right oh shit what's going on now you know they always say it even though we know people had things going on prior to right

hawks in jail is he hawk come on no jumper hawks in jail he's locked up right now he called me two days ago he's in that's crazy see god works a mysterious ways you're not supposed to be saying i'm just that you know god works a mysterious way so never go to the regular guy You know what they all say. If you go on no jump or you go to jail. I know. Well, now the hovers are looking like a cautionary tale. Oh, it was like that 100 get his hands on the politics.

At first it was like, it was like one or two that been up here. Now it was like eight of them really like on the internet going at it. You started it. I don't feel like to start anything. My whole thing is that this whole thing started off with some fake shit. I keep telling you all the war that we all fighting. And about Crips, bloods, race, and none of it. It's about the real version.

versus the fact. We've been to the penitentiary, bro. That's the fact. I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? The first thing that we was trained that you don't let a homosexual, a snitch or a PC have no action at no real dude. I'm saying? You can't put no smut on no real dude now, especially if you got those three things according to you.

Okay. Now, we got to clear up Hawks. Clearing how? Now, you did time where you watched the errors change on the yard. I've never seen the 50-50 yard. I've never seen any of that. It was just, your ass was in PC. main line. Now, I

will say this. When I was doing time, they had a hot med building on the yard. And when it hit 90 degrees, they sound up the thing and they go in there. But they weren't PCs. Gumby says he's just hot I mean not Gumby. Hockey said he's just hot meds.

Is it something else to that? It's something else to that. See, the hot med building. See, like I said, when we was in there, it wasn't none of that shit. No. You're going straight to the hole and you don't transfer you somewhere else. That's it. Now they got all these other shit. Like he tried to accuse me of being with some, some, some rate act to get you out. Like, that shit, bro.

But we clear that. Yeah, I'm just saying none of these programs were even existence then. Now, with the EOP situation, it was a hot man situation. But now when they can put PCs over there with the general population, it's a bad yard. That's what makes me bad. So he's supposed to stop taking his meds? No, he can take his meds in the inside, like in Lancaster. Lancaster. Lancaster is a whole hot, a hot med prison.

It used to be. You feel me? They have different buildings. Like, you go in there. alert. There's different things you can do. See, what happens is that on these 50, 50 yards, you know what I'm saying? For my understanding, I'm saying what I've been told,

you know what I'm saying? If you go down, like all these old dudes is going down and they got life and, you know what I'm saying? They're custody levels dropped. I'm saying? It's supposed to be a pass for them to go. But you can't go over there with any type of adverse consequence. You can't get chased over there. You know what I'm saying? You got a volunteer to go.

Well, not even volunteer because, you know, when you get your points dropped, you're going on them, they're going to send you where they want you to go. That's what I keep saying. Like so a dude got to keep level four points. No, not necessarily. Not necessarily. But soon as he go to a level three, and let's say he catch a squabble, when his points go up, y'all said you just came from a 50-fitty yard.

Well, I mean, sometimes the politics, prison politics ain't fair. I'm not here to debate one way or the other. And so I go with what the gang say. You know what I'm saying? That gang say he's smooth. He's moved. Did you talk to Big Bub? That's the name?

Yeah, I spoke to my big owner. He was upset. because he felt like, I said, well, I was able to talk to Hawk, and he felt like you shouldn't have been the one talking to him. It should have been me. I said, well, if they didn't want to talk to you, a Hawk would want to talk to you, and I was able to get through to him to kill the BS. See, this is the whole script. The whole narrative to that was wrong. You're saying, see, you either in or you out. You can't be halfway pregnant.

You got to be either pregnant or not. You know what I'm saying? You can't say that because you just gave up who, who, to guerrilla Hebrew. And he ain't supposed to be doing that. That's some big, like you said, big you. But wait, wait. He didn't get pregnant. Wait, wait.

He just fantasized about getting fucked. I don't know what y'all talking about. I don't know. Much respect. Hold on to the body. But I'm saying the whole script is that, like, we don't make the rules. I signed up for the same dumb shit that y'all did. Who don't make the rules?

The gang members. This shit was already laid before. You just said, I watched you on one of them things. St. Big U. Was Hannibal on the yard, which he was. Okay. I've had people that did time with it. He was a, he was a Muslim.

It wasn't no straddling the fence, bro. It wasn't no straddling the fence, and I'm just trying to go. So you're telling me he never operated as a 6th O'N a yard. I met him when we opened up a high desert in 19, what's that? 96, and he was a full flag. He would only been down two years. He was a full-fledged Muslim there. The only way I had met him was because I was upstairs from him,

and he was downstairs. I'm not going to lie on nobody. That's one thing about me. I ain't going to put nothing on no nigger name that's supposed to have it. Is that the first time you heard that, or were you familiar with this allegation? No, I've always known his Muslim name is Hannibal. We've always joked about how you're a Muslim in the crib at the same time. We've always joked about it, but I will say he functioned more on the streets as a crib.

My brother was in prison with him, and he said he witnessed Big U.D.P. is home being, um, cousin Cousin Cary knocked his eyeball out of some crazy shit like that. You familiar with that story? I heard something. But, I can't confirm any, but, but I also heard that

he wasn't allowed, like they would monitor they wouldn't put him on a yard with like a certain amount of six souls and shit like that, which meant he was in the gang files, too. But of course, you can't get out of the gang files, but this is the thing. The way gang members in prison see shit,

is that like if you turn Christian or you turn Muslim you pump the game that's a fair period because the majority not the majority those communities

are consisted of drop out gang members religions but all of them not what I mean drop out let me say drop out I don't mean that they did anything wrong I mean they dropped a flag

you signed up for this shit right because I got into it when I was young and still burnt out my homie snaps you might know snaps Corey from 5, 4 from VNG

He went to Christian role So my thing is, if you hit the yard And you're saying you're a Christian, right? And you used to be a homie I'm not on hold that against you. Now, I was young and burnt out like 1920 So you know, I'm tripping Because he was a VNG

And I'm like, nah, bro, you can't do that, right? That's still my homie today. I didn't understand it, but Snap's 15 years older than me. he was Adam already went through my bullshit and where he was at the transition and one thing I respect about him today and that was in 98-99 even today he's still Christian

he didn't get out and go back over there and let me just this is all I'm going to say let me explain some to you because I have a lot of older homies who are respected in the Muslim community you know what I'm saying and a few of them felt that I kind of disrespected him I'm saying you didn't say not disrespectful

I agree, but I'm saying this is the way they felt because I'm trying to explain the politics. These ain't my politics. This is the politics of the yard. Yeah, you're saying no disrespect. The most, the most, the most, the majority of the Muslim population consists of Crips, bloods, and just people who want to be Muslim. That's the fact. You'm saying. So they felt that I'm saying that big you dropped his flag was something disrespectful to the Muslims or something disrespectful.

No, it was disrespectful to the game. Hold on. Let me show you. It was disrespectful to the game. because you can't, I can't be Gumbi today. And then tomorrow I get a Muslim name, right? And then I get out of jail and then you see him with all this bullshit. You're explaining wrong.

Okay. I mean, it's not like that. This is what they're missing. When the Crips or Blugs do that. So let's say the Dham Muz is going to get into it with the Crips. Because he said, I'm Muslim now. I drop my flag. He locks it up in the cell.

He doesn't participate, right? Gumby's saying he did 15, 16 years of that. No quit participation when it's getting into it with whoever. It was a war between us in six souls in neighborhoods. And then got to the streets and said, I'm the king of the six souls. Let's go. So you kind of use the rug to stay out of trouble.

That's the accusation that he's making that sounds pretty bad. No, that's what he's saying. That's what I've been saying from the game. He just didn't say it like. It's not like nobody can be in a gang. then become part of a religion. It just has to be done in a certain way. No, no, listen, I don't know what y'all.

I don't know what y'all been taught. But mine, once you are from here, officially from here, you got to die to get out of here. That's some bullshit. But you can also be a religion, right? No, that's not no bullshit. Listen, I got older homies that 65, their own businesses, jeed up, tacked up.

They ain't out shooting people no more. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We got home with the 65, 70? So wait, wait, but they steal from where they're from. They're not denouncing where they're from. You know what I'm saying? They're just graduating. They ain't, they're not doing all the bullshit no more. But every set day they're there for a reason.

That's some bullshit. No, it's a way of life. Your old ass shouldn't be in no set day. Man, oh, God, I was just, oh, why not? What? It's going to be 50. Okay. Let's talk about the set day.

He's a trophy. I know what's crazy is. You got a brain, too. You really a plot planning the thinker. Tigo set day. You wish you could move around like him. I can move around anywhere I won't. That's the phone.

Yeah, I'll go. Right, so listen. I'll be arguing if I like, y'all like each other. No, that's what you got going on. Ooh. But I'm a couple. No, I'm just asking. I don't mean, when I'm talking about, let me just say this.

Hold on. Before you put on my age, former of age, before you say that, I'm a jail dude. So I don't say no ditty or none of that shit. Me either. I don't sex play. Because if you sex play me, I got something for your ass. So I don't, so pardon me, I don't, I don't do that. Like, my little homies, they'd be like, no ditty.

Like, first of all, we don't even play like that. So, we don't even have to say that. Men don't play like that. Okay. So, Gumby. Yes, sir. Are you sitting there in jail? Okay. Right?

You get a kite. Your brother got killed by these dudes. Your homie got killed by this dude. Your little home girl got killed by this dude. Five, ten years span, right? You get out, shit is different. You really don't know. You know the names.

And here comes the hood day. So now you know where to, what? Find them, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Here go to another dumb part. The homies don't even regulate the niggins that's got ankle monitors. They let them come in the hood day, right?

All the P-O's now no way. Where they at, right? The police, they promote this shit like flyers. Know everybody's strap, everybody dirty, so now they know where to find them. Then you got the new and improved wiretap, like little Boosie got caught up with the goddamn walking around, showing niggas cards, all the big, he on the run. But his hood day is on the 4th of July. Were he supposed to stay in the crib?

No, wait. You know what I'm saying, bro. Do it make sense? Does it make sense? A lot of the shit that we do as members of a community don't make sense. Wait, wait, let me just say to you. Ask the question.

Let me explain to you. I don't know about a lot of dudes, but my presence and other people presence in our community, it stops a lot of stuff. You know what I'm saying? A lot of the bullshit that goes on. I'm saying?

Because now we're doing the era of what they call the YNs. This is the whole point about me explaining to these old dudes who, oh, they don't listen. they're not this, they're not that. Once you drop your flag or you give them a reason to question you, you're nobody to them anymore.

This is why you. That ain't true. Let me explain to you. I'm just speaking about, I can only speak about from where I come from, bro. I mean, we got 14-year-old little dudes that don't want to, we got to chase around and go to school. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm just speaking about where we come from. You know what I'm saying? Once you lose what they respect, right? You can't really tell them nothing. You know what I'm saying? It's a big difference when they know that, okay, this dude and went through, from A to Z.

You know what I'm saying? And if I disrespect him, then the whole community is going to be mad. What happened to all those type of dudes? What happened to all the big homies who have been gone? Wait, this is what I'm saying. So now that it's gone, see, I'm like I tell my little homies, I'm not raised like y'all. Y'all, y'all not my homies.

I mean, you guys, though. You heard me say, that ain't, that's not my name. That ain't what I grew up here. It's totally different. So in order. They let shit happen that it wouldn't happen. And in order to have any type of, type of anything, you've got to have some type of pillars there that say what's going on and that's willing to live and die for what they say. This is not a Boy Scout troop.

You think you a good example? I'm a perfect example. Huh? I'm a perfect example. You still consider yourself a gang banger or gang member? Well, you got to define those terms. You know what they're always for the same generation. I'm going to say some to you.

I don't really know what. Do you wake up, remember how we used to wake up hating our opposition? Oh, no, no, fuck, no, I'm not, no. You get what I'm saying? You remember what the mentality was? My story is not even about, about any gang situation that happened that anybody's thinking about. I haven't gotten my story yet. My story is really a story how God turned all my enemies into my friends and brothers, tanked for one.

Fucking Homer Rule from Pah Roo. That's a homie? Listen to me, I know all these dudes do is personally. We all was there together, you know, since when my situation came about. But Tate wasn't your enemy. No, I'm just saying. Just people that I didn't know Tank, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

So he had to do whatever he had to do, and he was right there with us doing it. You get what I'm saying? So this, I'm saying. At that point, it wasn't no PCs. You had to stand on who your name was. It didn't exist with my. You can't run to the police to say somebody can't do nothing to me. You can't do that.

You're going to like, well, until it happened. Yeah. You better go out there. Your ass is dead. You're standing by the gate all day to be all recall. Like, no, it wasn't that type of situation. Fuck around and get a tip of a wall. trying to get a part of there.

It's just a different situation. And you ask me, am I a gang member? Or a gangbanger. I'm part of my community. You're a member. You're a member. You're a member. You're a member.

I don't see you as a gang banger. I'm not a gang member. I'm a gang banger in that sense. I'm only a gang banger if you bang on me. Anything other than that? And this is, and see, this is the thing, though. Like I was trying to explain about my story. I got a lot of these old dudes, right, who helped me, who shoulders I had to stand on

over. Like, you know what I'm saying? My gang, you know what I'm saying? Because of the situation, they were against. me. You know what I mean? I didn't stand on my own. Big Kelsey from 190. La-la. I talked you about three months ago. Hoover-Lahn. Everybody's speaking on

him. My big home of Hoover-Lond. The antenna. Everybody not speaking on him? Wait, I mean, not in the bad. I get the videos. Hold on. We got to get this shit. What happened, bro, to make talk do a about face like that? Now, I know he was mesmerized

by the Russian dialect in the cleavage. We all are. But What happened? That's the whole girl, man. Y'all got up the hooker ass, bro. I don't want to get in there. To make him tell damn homies, you don't know who you're effing with.

If you were the one said it. It just, like I said before, that whole situation was, like I said before, the narrative was that the hoover was getting into it. The hovers never get into it, right? Outside people who are not on the inside. That's wrong. Hawk from Hoover, don't say that.

Okay. Well, I'm going to. I'm gonna say this. You said, come on, bro. Me personally, I'm gonna say, wait, wait, I'm just gonna say this. Are you saying you never was moving? No, I never said that. Listen to me.

But see, this is such thing in this, in this world we live in, no matter, even me today, right? No matter how much I've done, takes one fuck up. And I'm nobody. Well, I always say that. Stop. Wait, stop. Wait, wait. He took credit for orchestrating a Hoover peace treaty between you and Hawk.

Is this true? Well, what did you watch me do? Nothing. You watched me take him one way and by the end of it. Okay. Had him saying, you know what you write. Keep that in mind next time you deny running plays. That wasn't a play.

Listen, if I would have told, watch it. Gummy. The homie told you, I already talked to him a day before, right? So now that told you what? Wack knew exactly what he was doing. If I would have told him, I want to get him to the seat to try to get some peace, right? He probably wouldn't have came. Of course, no.

No. But see, this is the thing, though. No, he wouldn't. Let me just. Let me just clear it up. Like I said, before, the narrative was that the hovers were getting into it, the hovers, but that's not true. Let me explain something to you.

Listen, like I said, it only takes one fuck up and you out. So he's saying the hawks not a hoover. So when he's getting into it with people, that's not a hoover getting into it with a hoover. At all. If you got any type of charges against you, any type of anything against you, you don't have a voice until you clear that up. And his only charge that he was in a hot. That's enough.

My only charge is murder robbery. So that ain't that enough? That was enough. That's enough. But they said he rolled it up, so that's the thing he has to deal with? Yes. Once you drop your flag, rolling it up, turning a Muslim, Christian, all of that shit is all equal to one and the same. Bro, you mark the gang.

You mark the gang. That's how it goes. So no whoever can be in prison and become part of a religion. No, that's not what I'm saying. You have to be, you renounce your gang. No, no. You're not. He's right.

It's not like that, bro. We got homies that are Muslims, right? And still bang every day. That's that. God is your personal God. You know what I'm saying? Religion is for everybody. But he said if you drop the flag.

It's done. Right, right. You're done. So you got to be a hypocrite, religious guy. Well, I don't think you're a hypocrite because you, you're banging and that you believe in God. It ain't like we don't get into it with religious groups. No, we don't. So where is a Negro going to stand if he's saying he's that, but he's still a Hoover?

The balance between it is this, you have to pick one over the other. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so, I'm saying. And so for me, I didn't pick one over the other. You just stayed grooves at over. No, look, though, that don't mean that I don't have a groove, God. That don't mean I don't pray every day. They don't mean I'll teach my kids to pray every day.

I mean, before you even a gang member, you're a person. I'm saying, you're a human being, you're a father, you a son, you're somebody. You know what I mean? So your religion is just to enhance your characteristics as whoever you say you are. That's it. That's all that is. Okay, so. But when you drop your flag and say, I'm my.

My name, I'm changing my whole everything. When you drop that, you denounce your community, where you're from. So what if a dude didn't put in 20, 30 years, did it, top to bottom, put the work in, police, ops, enemies, whatever, time, y'all, covered down for the homies, and did everything's supposed to do, and to get to a point where he want to make a change. Me and you both know the gang bang is no future in the gangbair. And we have, like I said before, I mean, I said a name. So why would you salute him?

No, I never said, this is what I'm trying to explain. I never down anyone. I'm trying to explain to you something. Once you transition from being a gang member, right? I got a few homies, some of Farrakhan's bodyguards, personal bodyguards. You know what I'm saying? My homie tank.

They didn't straddle the fence. They said, I'm not a gang member anymore, and they stood on that. They still in our community. Them is the people who call if something happened. Those are our clergymen. You know what I'm saying? We trust them.

Like the homie, bro, it's just a little different. You know what I mean? It's just different because it has to be shaped for the community. You know what I'm saying? If tank was to say, okay, I'm a Muslim and I'm not a gang member no more. And then he come back, you know what I'm saying? Every time somebody gets shot and he handing out guns and he's talking, that's a hypocrite. God going to frown on that. He's standing firm on his dean, period. That's what we're talking about. We're not talking nothing bad about if you choose to go opposite way. That's fine, but you can't double back and say you this, that, and the other. Listen, I was a crypt. And when we signed the application, I didn't see no vacation box where you can check and be gone for 15 years. I literally had to do day for day, 10 in the hole. Not to shoot the hole. You're a bad actor. You know, you, you, you, you be like, because I talk to the homie.

Who was the homie? He's moving. Okay. He probably, I'm trying to see who he is, so we can see him credit. You're going to know exactly who he is. Okay, go ahead. He said that instead of you just giving him a fade amongst around everybody, where it could just be a fade, he said, you lured him into a location.

that was isolated with you and him, and where you was at a certain advantage to where he just let you win the fight. That goes to show, he's a bitch. I don't feel for who you is. I ain't letting you whoop me. So why, how did that happen like that? Didn't happen anything like that, bro.

You know what I'm talking about? I'm not talking about one of your guys. Yeah. Big old guy, 610. We're not calling their names out. We're not doing that. Hoover. I'm saying?

No. Oh. Alsham? Oh, here you go. You and him out of the squad? I'll shine. You know, I'll shine with a whip gun. You got me.

He'd have whipped up. You got me fucked up. He's a drive. Man, you got me fucked up, bro. All the way. You got me mixed all the way up. So you didn't, you didn't pay attention

that he intentionally just started letting you win? He didn't intentionally do shit. See, this is the problem. This the problem. See, when people, I keep telling. That's a lie. I wait from this homies.

If you, if you, if you, y'all was around the homies at first? Why would you get somebody lure you in? Were you not around the homies at first? Whatever he said. Whatever that been said. No, no, no, listen. He took him someplace where there was a bunch of dangerous pit bulls.

Oh, my God. On command. Hey, look, this sounds like a movie, bro. None of that happened, bro. You didn't go from the west side to the east side? None of that happened. So he said, I'm dealing with him. And then I thought, man, if I beat him, I ain't going to leave.

I mean, so he started covering up. That's not even true. He did a fake fall, rolled over to make you feel good. You know you, that's not a real. I'm glad he did that. Me, firstly, I'm glad he did that. See, because me, I ain't losing nothing. I ain't lost nothing in a long, long

time. I'm willing to die about this. I'm my mom and all her ugly-ass kids I am. As a man? As a man. Can you be wrong? Of course. Of course. You have a problem apologizing to me, and I apologize. No, I don't. No, I don't. I teach my homeboys all the time. You lie on a man?

You admit to it? Of course. So I stole young magnificent from you? That was a whole misunderstanding, bro. I never said that. I never said that. I never said. that. This is what I told you on the phone. You made that up. You threw a fake nutty on me. I didn't. Show me where I said it. Run the clip back. What I did is I explained the situation that happened the night after I was at my brother house. You see the dude in there with the suitcase

of drugs in there? Yeah. I was at his house. And when I came down off my high, I called you that morning, right? Because I had just took some mushrooms and that shit opened you up. But I never said you stole him from me. I knew that his cousin, right? Rest in peace. I'm saying, brother, rest of the piece. On my mom, he rest of the piece, I knew about him taking you there. I'm speaking on the fact that before he got to you, I know, I know, I know, and that's what you said,

and that's what you said on the phone. You're like, oh, that ain't nothing but whatever you said. I know what we got that ain't nothing. And that's where I left for that. But I was explaining to you, the way you kind of like finesse the situation. You know what? And I won't even say finesse.

The way you handled the situation, right? How did I handle it? I gave a nigga back. I'm about to tell you how you had. I ain't talking about him. I'm talking about the situation. when I called you. That's what I was explaining to. You talking about when they came? No, no, damn, when they came. I'm talking about when I called

you on the phone that morning and I was telling you. I didn't talk to you until no, wait, listen. I didn't tell you. They brought up to my 50s. I left you. Pack, yeah, Pac, listen. No, that was the second time we talked from when they was at the studio. I'm talking about with magnificent. Listen, I'm going to tell you the conversation. I talked to you before then. What's his name? Randet Randall, Randall, Radale was on the phone. Listen, Magnificent was on the phone. The homie rest in peace was on the phone. it was somebody else on the phone. And I'm explaining to you what was going on how the situation happened.

And the first thing you told me was that gumby. No matter who I'm with, I always treat you with respect, bro. We're going to keep it that way. The second thing you told me, was it a lie? No, I didn't say. When I met you, I met you in a dark parking lot. But you didn't, you did not wait. Oh, my mama, listen, I was there.

No, stop. No, stop. Listen, no. They was acting funny letting you in the club. No, listen, no, they wasn't acting funny. You remember because Big You were supposed to be coming here. We was waiting. Wait, let me show you.

This is at the game. This is the game shit. Stand Bernard Dill. Listen. Baby, listen, the club promoter is B.I. That's my little homie. Wait, stop, listen.

So you lied to me. No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't lie to you. Walk in with it? Wait, no, wait, no, listen. All the guys that were standing on the other side over there, we wasn't stranded, bro. We was waiting on B.I.

We was going to come in just like y'all was coming in. That's why, wait, listen. Just like when we came in there, you remember the stage. Remember, game brought the bus full of bitches? I'm on stage. Nick, you called me over there. You told me you. was you said you wanted to do the

Netflix business, you had a story. That's true. That's true. You had been, uh, your murder shit had been reversed. That's true. I said, I got to go in and get this business done. Yes, true. You said, we're about to roll in, but you said they're acting a little funny. Yeah, because B.I. hadn't got there. And I said, well, come on, you with me. Okay, yeah, we walked

in behind you. Y'all. Y'all did. Okay. You told me that ain't no lie. That ain't no lie. But you from who. I said, which were you from L.A.? Out here. You said, come on. Got you in there. That's true. That's true. That's a bottle. I don't remember the bottle, but I know I gave you a bottle. He did. I ain't mad. I had 10 of them. What kind of? What did you get him? Some champagne or probably

a shirot or something. You know, I get 10 bottles. No, Don Julio. Get him a bottle. I mean, at the end of that. I got a question, though. I got a question. Was he parched? No, he was. Oh, you're talking. I got a question. What happened with Monster? Which one is Monster? Who was Monster?

Monster. What's his name? The club promoter, the club promoter. Oh, the big U-case? Yeah. Okay, so I only knew Monster as a club promoter. Yeah, me too. He would only call me because niggas, he would give him their money.

They would run off on him. So I believe Sauter's back when Sada Baby got hot. So Sada Baby was in town. He wanted Sada Baby had a little downtown spot, and he's like, whack. I want to give you the money. And then I'd give you the money when he get there because I know you ain't going to screw me. So I booked Sada Baby, boom, boom, boom. It's crazy.

So that night, you know we know how to read the parking lot. I see shit moving around the parking lot, but it's moving in the wrong way, right? So one of the little niggas come out, I know him. My man Wolf from OVG got a debt, monster got a debt for like a 60 piece, right? I said, what you're doing here? We hear the hollad monster. Said, for who? Wolf?

So y'all can't do that tonight, right? I said, fall back, let me call Wolf. I called Wolf. I said he owe you? He said, he owe me. I went in, I said, Monster, do you want a wolf? He don't know how I know Wolf, right? He said, yeah, he told me what he owed him.

He said he been bullshitting him because I know our Wolf is. He's telling Monster what he won't, and Monster just agreeing but knowing he can't give it to him. So I say, Monster, what can you do? He said, I can give him 15 now and five a month. I said, whoop, either you take that or he keep bullshit him. He said, whack, cool. Monster tried to give him the money. Uh-uh.

You take it to him. You know where he at. That's the last time I seen Monster, right? the next time I hear of Monster is Luce Cannon era Right I don't know nothing about all this other shit right So now Luce Cannon

He started telling me about the Distro, the weed and everything they're doing I'm thinking he capping Until one day they called my phone together This is how I know the boy is hot He'll, this October 24 He on the phone with Monster And they're talking about

the whole situation that happened. Now, I'm tripping because Monsters, like, giggling about the shit. And he's the victim, right? No, he wasn't. They talking about the crooked one time. So I'm like this. But the whole, Monster say, I got to turn myself in in December. It's before I know about the work from 2020, where it started him working, right?

So everything I've learned about Monster to know today started from October to now, The monster I knew, he used to be with the real dark brother. Just book clubs. That's all I knew him for. So I don't know how you knew him. Because I used to do club promotions. I guess I thought when I told you all about the situation when Lil Busy and his brother was fake.

Nah, I don't. No, I'm looking to do a show. Did they beat you? Did they show up? Well, well... He had to kidnap Lucy. Well, it wasn't. It wasn't.

The show didn't sale? The show didn't say. What ended up happening is his brother, right? His brother has been on this show. Yeah. TQ, right? TQ. That's the one we bought. So this dude right here, what he did is,

he, a month before the show was to go on, he texted promoters, Monster and fucking B-I, and tell him, look, I double-booked Boosie, right? So we're going to have to postpone your show. I'm like, what? No, that don't happen. So I'm like, okay, so what y'all book you for?

He said he booked him for $7,500 more. So that made the insurance go up. Don't know. Because this nigga Boosy, his insurance was high as fuck, because he was a whole rapper. I had Boosy plod. over. Look. So I said, okay, well, fuck it. I'm going to give it to y'all. So to get them there. Because on hover, this was not the contract. I ain't going to go to court against y'all.

You know what I'm saying? I'm a highlight y'all when y'all get here. Can you scoot just a little bit? That was just on the mic is right there. Thank you. Did they show up? Booty showed up. Well, that's all you need to show up. He can't be real. But they were not on the same page about the money. But see, this is the whole thing. You didn't give him his back in? Who? First of, first of, I'm a club promoter. I don't have your back in. You just got 15 thousand dollars in my pocket in your pocket of my money right now. You ain't for anything to show up here talking about no

motherfucking back in. What was he going to get paid? 30? He was supposed to get paid, 25. He had another 10 coming. Where's coming from? It's coming from the venue. He was mad about the venue. They wanted to pay him in a check. This is what this whole No, he ain't going to do that. Wait, wait. I'm telling you what he's, when Jay-Z bought Live Nation, he bought the

venues. This is what I had to find out on my own. When he went on his live time with his back-in, I don't have your back-in. That comes from the venue and Live Nation. What venue you was at? At the Riverside Ample Theater. Okay. So that don't have nothing to do with me.

I'm here to see TQ who just beat me out of $70,500. Because if I hadn't gave him $75, they was on council the concept. Did the venue pay? No. The venue didn't pay him. They don't have nothing to do with me. Did he take the stage? Yeah, of course, he had to take the stage.

So he didn't. I don't know if he did or he didn't, but I know I lost $52,000 in that concert. You lost because of ticket sales? Wait, no, I lost because of all the bullshit they had going on. The ticket sales didn't go. We couldn't even do no radio promotion. They didn't give us no radio drops. Nothing.

He just showed up talking about the back end. Who didn't get no drops? They didn't. Who said? No. It was contracted? Bro, everything was in the contract. He breached.

But I'm saying, I'm thinking he breached. I'm saying he's a whole, you know what I'm saying? He's supposed to be a whole gangster, whatever it is. You know what I met him? So he was already mad about the back. He and I had to ask somebody, what the fuck is he talking about with the back end? I'm looking for his brother. Where this nigga TQ at?

Because we got a specific situation. Who was a promoter? You a monster? No, I was the promoter and B.I. And B.I. was the promoter, right? I don't know B.I. You didn't know what the hell you was doing anyway. I know that. I understand that, but I know what I'm getting fucked. I know what I'm getting fucked. That's for them.

You're supposed to have your team in order, bro. Well, listen, I thought I did until he just put the fast one on it. What year was it? This is in 17. Well, he didn't call me. I hadn't met you yet. Not bullshit. Have I about?

Hell yeah, because that had to be 16, 17. Yeah, that whole little situation right there, you know what I'm saying? That led to him knowing that his brother. brother Stott was stealing from him. This is how he found out. His brother started stealing from me because of that, because of that concert. You know what I'm saying?

He came in there with the whole Boosie badass, and I'm explaining to him, look, bro, I understand where you is, I'm saying, I fuck with you with, but he's mad at Live Nation about his back in. I thought you to show it

because you and Boosie looked like y'all could be related. We both from Louisiana. The craziest thing about it is, after I did that concert, I flew to Louisiana to the same weekend and bury my pops. What I'm saying,

Louisville? The Port of the boot you from? Shit, you can go from Sweetport all the way up to Jackson, I can stop in every state. Every state. I mean, every city, every parish. They have parishes out there.

No. Oh, God. But you know you can't blame Bootsie for that loss. Well, why can't I? Because it's his team. You just said about his team, right? You just said, I should have, wait, wait. His job is to perform.

Wait, wait, his job. Okay, wait, his job is also to bring the people who handling his business. No, who's handling his business. Right? He's, this is his team, not mine. Right? I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

That's why you can't do business with street. Why you can't? Because they don't understand. Wait, wait. I understand that I just had to pay. You used to do shows. Wait, I just had to pay you an extra $7,500 to get y'all here, right? That was bullshit.

It was money that went in your pocket. But when I showed Boosey, wait, when I showed Boosey, because I'm just playing to him, brother, all this shit I got on right? You said, in your back end, I said to your brother, 70, 500. No, I don't have nothing to do with his back end. The venue has to pay him his back in, right? What I'm saying is the $70, $500 was to get them there, right? Because his brother just beat me. If I hadn't had to gave him $7,500, it wouldn't have been.

There was no show. That was our headliner. They didn't do no promo drops. They didn't do shit. That's where you got a point. They didn't do nothing for us. He just showed up talking about with my back in. We didn't promote on Instagram. Hell no, nothing. But aren't the promo drops basically like stipulated in the contract, how much social media will be done to promote the show? They didn't do any of it. He was mad at live nation. But it was stipulated. Yes. I have my contract and everything. But my whole thing is that I'm thinking, well, wait a minute, he's coming here and let me holler at him in person. You know me? Because like, obviously he's not understanding, like, what's going on here?

Like, you're not understanding. I'm going to tell you what happened. Him and his brother probably wasn't talking to him. He was ignoring it. No, his brother, this is when he found out that his brother stole a half a million dollars. That night, he went on Boossey and said, book me at busy.com. I don't got no manager no more. That was the end of day relationship. And my whole

thing with him is that before you got off the stage, I can show you with my phone that we did a duet. Oh, who on stage. Bro, this is how the situation ended. He said, okay, well, bam, yeah, I didn't get that money. I said, I know you didn't. This is why I'm here to talk to your brother. He said, he's not here.

I said, okay, well, look, this is what we going to do? How are we going to work this out? He said, look, do you have your people get back at me? You're saying, I got you. I'm going to go out here and do the show. And that was the end of that. And they ain't heard from him since. Now, our senior was up here putting pressure on Adam about things

such a... Such a... You felt the podcast you do for the commute. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. I don't know. That's not true. He said women and children, cool, but I'm from Hoover.

No, you said they need to go to a park, set up a podcast name. No, wait, stop, stop, listen to me. That's not, that's not how the conversation went. That's not how I went. You know what I'm saying? This gentleman here, right, he called me, and he got in touch with me. We talked and he said, listen, if you come on my show, I'm going to pay you this much, and I'm going to contribute something to a worthy cause, right, in my community.

I told him, no, you ain't got to donate. We don't want your money. We can put up a podcast studio in the park. for the kids that's at the park. Can you get permitted to do that? Yeah, of course. I'm pretty sure I can. We, APL you and all that type of people.

My whole thing was that this was a gesture. You don't fuck with the grid, do you? Who? I don't, I only fuck with the gang members. I don't know about. All right. Well, make sure you don't, you ain't got no next tail.

I mean, no Blackberry. I don't, I only fuck with gang members, right? Okay. I'm saying, I'm boots on the ground with mine. I'm helping. Because, you know, everybody is saying, you were super up, and they didn't see nothing you did for the community.

That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, what do I start? He was up. He's definitely rich. He's rich right now. He acted like you're rich. Wait, look.

Five six years. Go to be that one. First of all, you already know, you don't get all that money. You don't get, you don't get, if you got the law,

so just for the people that don't know, you can be. You probably get about 60% of it. Not even 60 because this is what happens. The lawyers, right? They take a third. No, they take, they take 33 and a third. Wait, wait, this is what I'm saying.

Then they're going to boost it up to 40% by all the work they did. They're going to charge your dollar for the staples. It's like this whole shit. Oh, that's not contained in the other than 3%. No, it's not. Listen, and then on top of that, you got to understand, I didn't get the money for like five years. So I was borrowing. And that's the biggest

scheme in the world. Because his interest got to go back on. Bro, it don't stop until you pay them back. So one do, it, bro, it just was a bad situation. But my thing is that what I did with my money is I help young entrepreneurs in my community. You did a little tricky too, though. Trick it? A little bit.

Well, see, this is what happens. I'll be tricking on my girl. Can I just say some, too? This is my whole thing. This is the thing about tricking, right? If I'm fucking with you and you, my bra and I'm up, I can't have you looking like all these other bitches, can I? I can't have you. I can't skeet all in your hair and all over you and don't get your shit fixed.

Like, so if that's tricky, fuck it. You know, fuck it. Y' ain't bad to me because I was fucking bad. To me, fuck you me. I've been in a whole long time. Adam, you're going to keep your wife away from me. I see it or two. I was going to keep her all the way

for me. That's what I just tell you. You come through singing that E. Hill rope this. Oh, gang. What you mean? I need to know why you made no jumper. The Hoover Hater

podcast and the neighborhood level podcast. I didn't. It's just the way he made it. No. Because, wait, listen. Listen. No, listen. Whatever him in T.Rail, Trail,

whatever I've heard of his name is, since that time, that he was on his podcast, he's been shunning us. No, he brought T. Real Brother. Wait, wait, okay. No, we're not talking about, no guests. Wait, we're not talking about no guests.

No, he got these dudes as hosts right here. They got Brick Baby here. You got Crick Baby here. Okay. Do you agree to Brick Baby's a great personality for the seat? You may not agree with his antics as I don't, but for the camera and the people. I believe that he has... For the camera.

We ain't talking about it. I believe he can hold people interested. Do you believe that for extra and Kripma? You believe that Krip Mack is definitely a one of a kind? I think he's for the camera. Yeah, for the camera for sure. We ain't talking about this. Okay, okay.

Four extras, I believe, took the persona, because I think Jap was the first one I seen talking about his prison fates. Am I right? Is it Jap five? Is it Jop five? Jeff Fogg. Jack Fogg. Yeah, that's who, that's who Four Extra got his whole little cloud from.

But that was one of our fighters. No, you can't say that because Four Extra just came and told his stories. But he told the story about Jap. That's how he got on by telling his story about if and Jap is one of our Fawber. That's what they say. But that was only after Jabbing and fought two or three his little homies. So they ran him. Yeah, they ran.

And then you whoop him. That's not fair. But at the same time, that's gangbanging like he said. Oh, we ain't crying about it. Yeah. I'm saying? It just so happened, you know what I'm saying? We won't see the rematch, you know what I mean?

So, so you, so my thing is like this. See, because the flag he's catching, I catch. Now, all together, ain't you? No. What the hell you mean? No, no. They say why all you do is sign crips, right? Now, if I got a paper turned over and I'm looking at the analytics, I'm looking at the numbers, numbers, numbers.

I don't know who's on the other side. I don't know what face is on the side. You go with the best for the job. And I'm saying, okay, you know what? Based upon our machine, what we're going to do, what we're strong at, this person right here with these numbers is doing these things. At the time, Blueface running around on top of his own car. He, you know, he didn't create this thing where the kids is telling them

what high schools to go is a buzz. I don't know. I'm like, this right here. If I turn it over, because he's a Crip, I'm supposed to say he's a Crip. That's good business. Nah, I can't do that and go pick up one of these with dudes of blood. but he ain't doing nothing. Right?

So the same thing. If the personalities is out there working their self on social media, if Adam sees it and says, you know what, this dude is this, because we've got to remember. But I felt like it was disrespectful to bring you up here based upon this relationship with four extras.

And that could be, he can beat you up when he catch you out. No, keep on it. He goes, I don't know. You're both the niggins over here. Okay. Not only that. I'm going to get to feel that left.

That only that. You're dirty. I know you dirty See, not only that He'll get your hat He'll start going in on the hand I said, yo, this is double disrespectful

But people always act like The disrespect comes from nowhere I mean, Forexras was not shy About what he was willing to do To his eyes So you cannot blame him For taking a little bit of pleasure

I never heard him Saying that disrespect I mean he wasn't specific But we got the idea But you know what you're talking about But this the whole thing Even with that situation, right I think I handled it

with some tact I didn't go in like everybody else could because of this situation right here. I respect who he say he is because he's going to get out there every time and try to prove who he is. That's what I mean about a real nigga.

This is why I couldn't let Hawk just sit up and talk bad about a real nigga because we got real niggas for him. We don't need nobody that got to stand on him. So that what that whole situation was about. My whole thing with him is that like he was here, now he got to figure out a different route.

What you go do when Hawk catch you? Catch me? When he catch me? You know, he got a squabble. He do got a squabble. Can I just say something to you? Come on.

You know, he may have went to the, what you call it? Can I just say something? You can't take away. Bro, known for squabbling, no.

We got a bunch of squablers them did something and I just say something. Can we admit to that? Can I just say something to you? First of all, he can't catch me. First of all,

because I ain't running from there, a nobody. Right, right now, he's on the run. Mm-hmm. He's on the run. Do you say it's locked?

He locked up. I know right where he at. I don't give a fuck where he is. I ain't telling him. You ain't got to tell me. I don't even care. See, because this is what happened. Just like what Tank just did,

see, when you're a good motherfucker and you keep it all the way solid, real motherfucklers are always stand up. Remember, a lie is always told first. First thing out of a nigga mouth is a lie. The truth always comes second. So mine is a slow burn. All the niggis that helped raise me in the penitentiary, they're proud of me right now because I told them what was going to happen.

So a nigga is just talking. You're just talking. You're like a fart in the wind. We hear you. Now you go. So do you agree? Because a lot of this goes off. Somebody would do something to violate,

but because the dude could whip the other dude's ass, he felt like his violation ain't credible. Because Hulk think he can whip you. Well, this is what you is. And a head-up squabble, you think you can... Bro, listen to me. I don't know if you, y'all really don't know who I am, but...

I'm his ass-you. I don't think he can whip me at all, at all. You know you're 50. I know. You must... You still busting down? Mm, not as much. But see, this is the best part of body.

This is the Gumby Reaper right here. The old thing about it is that, see, he want to challenge me, right, for his wrong. How stupid is that? You PCed up, stop, stop, stop, stop, listen. You PCed up, you did wrong. You want to fight me. Well, I got about 50 nephews. That's your age.

That's a fact. To get to your ass right now. Dang, I'll let that out here. Before you even get to me or even speaking, first of all, I teach my kids, grow men, kids fight, grow, me and kill. period. Play with me if you want to. I don't get a fuck.

They go for any and everybody. I got babies. I just had one. I'm going home to mine. Even if I got to be behind bars, I was behind a glass for 10 years, and mine came, stay solid.

So play with me if you want to. You went crazy a little bit. No, stop saying that. I got good sense. I got good sense, I got good sense. Just because you didn't tell me when you was in there,

you didn't have your escapades of tearing up your pictures and letters and flipping out. That's just, that's just. You got it back right. Wait, that's just the, You became the rap on the crypt here. Wait, wait, stop.

Taring up. Wait, listen. Tearing up all this, you know, crazy shit. That's not crazy shit. That's not crazy shit. Wait, wait, listen, this is the thing, though. A lot of things that go on the side of the sale, right? I was in the cell by myself, so I didn't have a cell.

A lot of things that went on in my personal life, people passing away, and just things that's going on. That comes with it. It comes with it. But I'm left there to deal with it by myself. You know what I'm saying? So my thing is that everybody's, say you had to be a little bit crazy.

I was too scared to be crazy. I don't consider myself crazy. I consider myself an extremist. I'll give you that. And let me explain to you why. You really blaming him for just going through it and flipping out while he's been locked up for 10 years. I'm blaming for that. I didn't even know about that.

I'm going to tell you why. I don't even know about how I don't know something. I tell you why. After you got through ripping up them damn letters and pictures that kept you going through out today, you regretted that shit, didn't you? Because when you looked up and wanted to read that letter. I look at that picture that might have kept you going. This is what it was.

See, this is what you did. See, my situation is a little bit different than everybody else. I understand. So I'm in a situation where I'm in a box. And my homies is mad at me. The state of California, I'm fighting the death penalty. I don't get domesticans. It's on with them.

I'm saying? So I'm here by myself. So I had to work through all of these situations by myself. I had to say, okay, well, it ain't nobody here, but me. If the homies try to kill me, the Mexicans try to kill me, I got to stay down for me. For me. So I put one picture up on the wall. It was a gang of different ones. I'll show you all. I'll show you. I'll show you. I'll show you. So it's a gang of pictures all over the wall. They said I was crazy then. No, and that's why I love Catwood. He said. He said. He had to lie to yourself. He had to lie to yourself. Every day. Every day I told myself. I was going home. It was one picture. It was one picture. It was a few different poses, but one person in the picture. See, you was up here acting crazy with that. I wasn't like a crazy. You got good sense. I wasn't. I wasn't. It was off a fizzle. Because, you know, we come from that air to burnt out shit.

We know our burnt out homies, and I know the homies that can be burnt out but got good sense. The majority of the homies that got good sense is really the craziest homies. They just know how to, you know what I'm saying? It's not about craziness. What it is is that it's about your extremes. When you push your man to his extremes, he don't know how to go back. This is why I explain to you. Everybody's talking about a body.

You want a body, you want to just that. I've been in the street since we was 10 years old out here, bro. Literally, on Figaro. And they've seen some of everything and did some of everything. My whole thing with that is that, look, in the end, what you're going to do? Most people can't decide which they're going to do. They have regrets. They have remorse.

They have all this shit. See, but if you all into something, if you believe 100% in your philosophy, you don't have any doubts. Like, my company is called gig, GIG. And I got that from, I was wondering, who was in the hole, and I'm wondering why these Muslims, like, these motherfuckers is crazy. they put a bomb and go blow everybody up. So we're on the tier discussing what would make a man go to those lengths. Yeah.

And that's what an extremist is. You know, I talked to 607 up. You know, my spies and the exposers found him, found his address, and I did him like I did America at Cholo, knocked on his dough. In where, Vegas? Yesterday, yeah, I knocked on his dough.

Now, you've been there. He way out the way. Gated all that. Right? Quick left, quick right, up on the left. He knocked on his door. He opened the door with the cup. Scared the shit out of me.

Because the last nigga I seen touched that cup. He said something here. So he looked at me and I said, I told you I was going to come out at you. And he said, are you going to stay outside or you're going to come here? He said, how the hell you know where I live? I said my spies found you and I know your security leave the same time together to go down there and get lunch.

You need three to keep one with you. I told him I need an apology for my community and I need it on camera. What do you apologize for what? What do you do? He did. Wait a minute though. On the gang.

On the gang. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. In his unofficial defense, in his unofficial defense. But you probably say it all the time, right? No, he ain't got no. Wait, me personally. He ain't got no, that everybody killed him.

Wait, but this is what I'm saying, but we don't go around just talking like that. We don't go to a whole little shit, but in his defense, right? What? Munchy B provoked that situation. Definitely did.

Stop, so this is what, wait, let me explain some T. See, this whole situation, y'all don't understand the shit that you're doing these podcasts. The shit that you're doing these podcasts, is the dudes in the streets got to be there to sort out.

We've making phone calls to different people. I tell him that on the time. What is much you do to? He's going to say, four waxes. You're going to let him know you got that hoof on your stomach. He started. This is what pissed me off about Munchy.

If he wouldn't have said that, it would have never got to that. That's nothing. What? What you mean that? It's nowhere near as inflammatory as what Unck said. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Everybody forgot about what Munchy said. Wait, wait, wait.

Listen, in my mama house, the first wrong, the first wrong, get the ass with. That's a fact. Listen, the first wrong. Who started it? Okay, so stop. So just stop right there. But it also goes back to you and Haffey. When you start the bullshit with him and King Pell,

same shit. That's what I said about it. You know what I said? You know, see, you got to remember. Adams is a white dude. His whole thing, if his content is content, we're going to talk about it.

Right? It doesn't really dine on him that, like, I think the most dangerous shit he did was when he took the Mexican kid, P-Face, whatever, to the back. Because if them brothers

would have known, but this is, this is, this, dude said, I'm in K. Oh, yeah, he would have got who. He would have got whooped. Yeah, and you weren't let him back there.

I forgot. You forgot. No, you did. Because he's a white dude. He's not thinking about it. I don't think he's thinking about it. My whole thing is this thing. That's not on this radar.

But see, this is the thing. This is the whole reason why I got here to explain to him how we feel about you because the absence, the act of mind. Wait, well, I get that. I just saying he don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck either. I mean, but the whole thing we're having a dialogue right now. He wants to know.

I care. This is the whole, you're a liar. I want to be good in the groove community. You should be good. You should want to be good. They're not going to let you do that. They say how you did four extras. What?

Four extras took you over there to the 40s. And then you turned around and had the grooves come up here. We didn't disrespect him, though. Nobody did disrespect what we do. The dude was calling him something. You was calling him something? No, I did not. I did not.

Who was he called him? We wouldn't let the. rapper dude, your homie. That was what you. Polk was calling him something. Nuby or some shit is possible. It's possible. It's possible.

The funniest thing Hock said was he looked like a Gumby. He do look like Gumby. You know what's a gummy character. And it's a hairstyle. Let me just say this is the way the gumby is there? Let me explain something. See, all y'all, you see, y'all, see, they're from the new whole new generation. This is why they all fucked up.

I'm saying, I'm from where motherfuckers got big gold chains on and big K-5 blazers and riding around with Uisies and shit. Like, so those are my heroes. So all of this shit is going on right now, the homies be saying, don't do this, don't do this, don't do that. It's all content. And I explained to them that, see, the internet is a war of propaganda. If somebody says something, we got to say something back. Where it's going to stick.

These people don't know us around the world. That's what's going on right now. It's a war of propaganda. And you are the master of misinformation. You and this gentleman here. I feel like I'm way more committed to facts than most YouTubers. I don't feel like we're like manipulating the audience. If you see a title on No Jumper, it's 99% accurate to watch.

what happened. Yeah, but you like, this is what happens. You will see like this dude to be on your thing and you will see that this dude and this dude getting into it. And then you would get that dude up there, right? You'll get the dude up there but what's dangerous about what you do.

This is cool because it comes out in a couple of eggs. Man, when you take them people on that live, that's when I'll be like, Adam, please, bro, because people know where they're there. I don't know if you giving this some thought.

That's why we got security. That's why everything is secure. What they're going to do with four niggas with AKs? What's they going to do? I'm avi what you do. You better get your ass down. Adam doesn't, I'd be trying to tell, bro, I'm like, Adam. There's a whole caliber of street dudes.

Everything we understand, they don't. Their neighborhood is their religion. That's all they know. All they know is these eight blocks. That's all they care about understanding being right. the shit that we know to do, they don't hear none of that. It's like they're the zombies of the hood

and all they know is when we get in the car because that's the problem, they don't get fuck about not coming back. So I'd be like, bro, sometimes, sometimes some things, and I don't be trying to, I think you'll be thinking, I'm trying to tell you what to do.

I'd just be like, bro, let lead that alone. Some things, like, this is what I was telling you about from the very beginning, certain things that, that you do and it well not even you when you had those guys up here what guys those guys all the

neighborhood guys that were hosts what's wrong with that nothing I got people from neighborhoods like killing a nigga behind in real life but so just hear what I'm saying but what it was was that they were blatantly disrespect in our community well I'm not wait wait wait

I didn't wait wait listen brick did let me say to it when he would listen first pods with who wait wait wait who he did the podcast with What's his name? Big deal. T-Row brother. I didn't see that.

I didn't see that. He went on back on fig. He went on back on fig. He went on back on fig. He definitely never said anything. That's a G-homie. What you mean? What did you mean?

It's a G-holme. Oh, yeah. That's a G-Rowman. You see, they put, they put, what are you want to get out? Y'all are some boys shit, bro. Y'all ain't going to tell him that to his face. He bullies the whole scene.

But y'all are they going to tell him that to his face. He bullied the whole team. You ain't going to tell him that to his face. That's my brother. I trust my brother. Look, they got a whole situation with me right now. Smack, smack, smack just, you know, just, post- You see that?

Smack said, Smacks said, you can't get at T-Rell without, he said, this ain't about Hoover, this ain't about troubles. This is back on Fing. It's bigger than all that. Soon as Smok-Ced-Gabby, he's going to say, you know, they'll eat that all.

No, no, I love you, I understand. I understand his position, though. I understand his position. Like, this is the thing, so why would you put them in that situation? I never know what you was doing. Listen, no.

Go at T-Rail knowing that's his co-host. But I tried to get him to go at T.R. He was not taking the bait. You didn't really even announce him. Like, Hawk did. Hawk did. You're hog said he ain't from the community. Who the fuck is Hulk?

Like, let's stop. Listen, let's stop. Let's stop that already, bro. Y'all, y'all. That's all bullshit, bro. Come on, y'all. But the whole thing about T-Rail is this right here, though. Like, this whole situation, it goes back to where he came from and his people, right?

Which is the 50s. The hums in the 50s. So if the homies in the 50s don't accept you I mean when he had Tiger they was with him That was the bag When he had Tiger they was with him Well now he don't so Now I do remember one of your G homies

That was on some other shit You know what I'm talking about You know I was raised up under Because you know who my dog is out of the 50s I know who that is You know what I'm saying so So the whole thing about it is that That whole TRL situation

Didn't really have anything to do with smack Because I know smack. I've never had a conversation with T. Trell, T.Rill, T.R. At all. When I first came home, he was on no jumper. So I went through every channel I possibly could go through because you got Treyway up here,

you got all the other homies doing that little shit, right? So I took a personal offense that you didn't even, like, I got G-homies getting at you, your own brother. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you ask to go on a show? He denied you? No, I didn't ever get an opportunity. He just shunned me.

I never even heard. Who denied you? I don't know. I don't know. He didn't deny me personally. You wasn't good enough to sit on the orange couch. He wasn't about the community. No, not then.

We're talking about when he was on no jumper. Oh, he wasn't. Listen, that's when he was on. He probably thought you was going to do some crazy shit. He know he can't control. I'm not. Why everybody?

He know you can't control me. But why would you have to control me? Just don't disrespect me. Listen, my whole thing is this right here. My, who I am is who I am, right? I function with a lot of different people who you wouldn't believe I do. Function with.

I'm not a lot of gang members. I'm to my lawyers and judges and these type of people. He wouldn't bring Gumbia on, but he sat with Big U. Who sat with Big U? T.R. On no jumper. Oh, yeah, but he said he looked up to Big U. You know what I'm saying?

I'm just saying. I think he went over there against him. A lot of people, a lot of people understand some. I'm not, I'm not down in Big U, his whole little situation. No, what you said was real, though. That's all I'm saying. My whole thing is that because it's the way that I believe. You ain't lying because my whole boy.

I'm not going to play with the guy. I'm not going to play with the guy. A very reptable from Inglewood, N. NHSP. Very reputable dude. He didn't. He didn't. I know for a fact.

No, no, no. This I'm not saying. One thing about me, I'm not going to lie on nobody. Even if it hurt me, I'm going to tell the truth. He was a whole Muslim the whole time. We had a whole war with him.

A very reptable homie for Mingo would in H.P. And we have, we share something in common, told me, because he, he, I think he's a Muslim faith, but he still doesn't get his N.

Some confidence. See, see, niggas in L.A. They're going to try to sugar-coated for the coaching. Did he really tell y'all what dude and what he was from that did it? He just gave him it up. Well, I think he was doing it.

Because that could have sent you on the yard right then. No, we was going to get them on the yard then. But what it ended up happening is the older homie who was a Muslim, but he was straddling the fence. And he told us then, he said, look, bro, we're not going to do nothing to, bro. He's all the way on that side. I straddled the fence with y'all. He's a complete Muslim. that, the homie who said that, that

proceeded to help him skip through the whole war. Never got touched. Period. Y'all had to win at him. Of course. Why wouldn't we? He wanted the top dudes from over there. Why wouldn't he? But being that he was a Muslim and he's with Allah, we're not trying to go to war with Allah. This ain't even your business. This is crippling blood shit. So why wouldn't big you be in that?

Why wouldn't he, no, I'm asking you. Why wouldn't he be in that? If he didn't turn Muslim, he would be a full-flash neighborhood, right? No, no. No, no. That's right. And he would be one of generals. and they be leading the way. I know all of them. I just talked to Big Lunar Tink Frank the other day. You just called me from Vegas. I fuck with all the dudes.

This is what I'm saying? My situation ain't like everybody else's situation. I know these dudes personally. You know what I mean? So I'm not going to sit up and lie on nobody. You mean, why would I? You don't get a chance to drop your flag. Once you drop your flag, it's done for it.

That's a fact. And the craziest thing about it, and this is the crazy. This is why I understand about all these. That's why you hear me say what I say. I'm not a gangbanger, but on front where I'm from. Just what I'm saying?

The whole thing about it is even like even with the situation with the dude that we keep talking about, the dude with the wings, right? Just because, just because your military, your military service, which is the gangbanging part of our community, once that's over with, you're still part of our community. You know how many dudes we got that they used to bang it? Don't bang no more. They're still part of our community. We see them at the park with their kids.

Just because you're not from where we're from. It's like you're not throwing up shooting that people don't mean. So you're not saying he can't be over there. No, he definitely can't be over here. But I'm just thinking about, bro. Who? Why? Because he had to, because he took men.

No, no. Because he just caused irreversible damage to my community with his mouth. Period. You are a whole soul soldier. So, wholesale soldier. You cannot, you cannot, you cannot throw rocks from over the fence. Did not keep it real with you? You did.

You did. But I told you what was coming, right? You did. But at the expense of this whole bullshit. Let me show you. Let me show you. appreciate. I'm just going to say that. I'll let you know what was coming.

You did. You did. You did. And I can't even like, we had, we debated. We debated this back and forth a few different time. You're right. Even though it was a play, I can't be mad at fell in my favor. I can't even say nothing about it. Okay, I have a question, though. Hoover-Lon. Where does Hawk get this?

I feel like you would never say that about somebody unless you really like 100% new. So it's kind of shocking to see him just backpedal on it, like, immediately. I've been gone about 40 years. Especially given the fact that during our interview, you made it perfectly clear that that is one accusation about your hood that you really don't appreciate.

And then for him to put that on a leader. This is what I'm saying. Listen, this is what I'm saying. You said something. No, listen to me, bro. First of him, he, I heard young N. He said, young Hockey say, he, young Hawk told him this. And he told him that I threatened him with who belong.

That's what he said. First and foremost, bro, I was in prison for 16 and a half years. All of my peers are in prison. Do you think I need Huvalon to do something for me in prison? Like, no, he's given a false narrative. That's not even the whole point. The whole point, because of this right here. Let me show he never, he knew he couldn't come back.

He has nothing to lose at this point. He has nothing to lose to come at this point. But Hulah ain't got nothing to do with none. No, he don't. So this is what it was. He just wanted to keep going bigger and bigger and bigger. He didn't ran through all the people that's got names from our Just went through everybody.

Only people I know. Me. Who else? A dog. Dog. Then he went to trailway. Then he went to line. Then he was all the people that people didn't know.

Why would you do that? And you could come hollering any one of us on Hoover Street. Why would you do that? That means that you know you're not coming back. I knew the line thing. Not coming back. You know. I don't know.

Maybe he was high because he retracted that. He was immediately. He's talking about a great man. I'm going. That's one of our elders. I'm saying highly respected. Not only from our gang. Not only from our gang,

just from people in general. I'm saying? He's somebody that's going to teach you how to survive when you think you can't. So this is why we're explaining you that what he did is completely unacceptable. You don't talk bad about somebody just because you're mad,

you fucked up. Ain't nobody we talking about PC'd up but you. Ain't nobody else is in trouble but you. But you get to get out here and you get to say all these bad things about us and we got to sit back and not say nothing. This is what we had in our community.

I'm saying the whole Bub situation, the trig, situation, all the homies that's on the podcast. We had to sit out and kind of figure out, what the whole script was. See,

this is the thing with Bub, though. Bub got to understand that we already got churches. We already got churches. The podcast community, Arlene, if it's up on the blogs, or we got the content,

we're going to talk about it. So he said, some things you ain't know, maybe you need to go to the other lane. Well, he was mad that you for talking about. He's saying, you know, if it's on the blogs, we're going to discuss it.

So he's saying certain things that's pertaining to the streets, although the streets may have been the one to put it on the blogs, we shouldn't talk about it. That ain't how that go. This is what I was, this is what I explained to in our community and said, we've got a lot of elders who are like me. I don't really don't know about the internet either, right? Too much, I'm saying, but I'm here with them and they're helping or whatever,

but I'm trying to explain to them. The internet is a war of propaganda. That's a war of words. So if we don't respond, we lost. You know what I'm saying? So once he understand that, that means everything is what it is. Once you get on the internet, it's what it is. You on the internet.

You know what I mean? And this is the thing with damn homie and him. I think what people don't know about damn homies, as damn homies been around. She know all the tricks to the trades. She ain't trusting shit. She's always prepared for you to go bad. you see as soon as he went back

she had everything she's supposed to audio screenshot deep in the streets now you don't like that one I'm mad it's crazy even fucking with hootloom's she said she knew you

before the BBA with a couple of things from Bonnie Hunters where they're like flanking her the security she had the G-Harmie Wack from Fruetowne what it like so Bonnie Hunter Jay was was hosting her thing so

the whole thing about it is that that situation like I mean with her and him, like, what did he expect her to do? This is why sometimes when I'm talking, I try to pause and try to get my thoughts together so to come out half-ass decent because I know I got to stand on whatever I say.

But he was like in love with her. You see the text? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My boy, I was really feeling that one, man. But you don't, you know what she's doing like. He's good people, though. No, that's my partner. She's all right with me.

All right. What is she cool? Yeah. So why was it an issue when Young Magnificent did the song and video with Broke Till Friday for Main Street? Now, I got to claim fought for this. The rules at the studio. No gang banging. If y'all want to squire, y'all could go. But you got to come to a song together or you can't come back no more.

Okay. So as they was there over the months and months and months, listening to each other's music, they just they started helping each other and got cool as you cool with some neighborhoods and course some domos and all that right but that's a personal business right so in order for him to go and release a song with the main streets right he got to say look bro he got to come and talk to the people who's in the streets because we got people that's really over there they over here back and forth whatever and he got it we got to come to some type of understanding you can't just go on your own because that's like wait a minute you was fucking with them

you was fucking with them you know what was him what was him I get that, but that's not how it's going to come out. You know that's a fact. He was in there and you know, that's not how it's going to go. So this is the whole point. What I was explaining to magnificent is that you're in a position where you're going to have to fuck with all these different people, but you got to be insulated. Like, if the police want to talk to me, I'm saying, come on, whack, come with me.

Because they want to holl at me. I got to have somebody there to validate what I say. And that's, that's all it is. It's just about protocol. Protocol keeps you safe. If you go to the police, they have protocols. That's all it was. Y'all thought like he didn't, now, if he had brought it to the four,

forefront and said, yo, I met dude at Wax Studio, man. He gave me some ideas, and there was a song we got on together. He did one for me. I did one for men. It was pretty hot. And we want to shoot a visual to it. What you all had? It depends on what the visual was.

You know what I'm saying? Most homings would have been like, okay, well, I'm saying, this just, with my opinion would have been in that because I understand that in the entertainment industry, you're going to deal with people that's not from your community. And that's just what it is. You know what I'm saying? Now, if you choose to work with them, you have to work with them, with certain guidelines.

You can't be all willy-nilly with it because especially if you know this is one of our enemies. You know what I'm saying? So the video would probably have to have been shot where he'd do his scene over here and they do their scene over there. That's where. That's, that's, that makes sense.

You know what I mean? So it's just a way about, it's a workabout. That's all work around. That's all we have to do with the situation. What is your mission? What are you? What's you like, you know,

what show? I know, what show. I know you want to do your story on Netflix. That's your thing. Well, that's in the making right now. I got a few different things, orange in the fire, said he wanted to do it, but you flipped out on him.

I didn't flip out. You screamed for four hours. He said, from Las Vegas to L.A., he said you were screaming loud as fuck. The story about them in the car together was amazing. I got to go rewatch that. That was a great tale. We talked about it. Yesterday went crazy. Averb called in.

Ooh. Who was he? Averb. They grew up in the same projects, had the same witch craft people. And Averb star said, nigga, you know what you was biting. and kissing them kids with the demon whooped and he said I wasn't kissing them. I said, was you biting them?

He wouldn't ask him. Wait, he was biting kids. Averb. What the fuck does that man? Averb was trained in the same projects by the same warlords or witches or whatever. They went to school together.

They talked for like 10 minutes. Yo, I did two hours. I was with him. That's a door. What? This is a fact. I feel like there's a lot six or seven on the lore out there to be uncovered.

No, but Averb is, like he said, whack, we grew up. He said he lived on the second floor. I lived on the third. But he was saying he was kissing kids as like a part of like a witchcraft ritual. And biting him. What the thing? He denied kissing them, but he wouldn't deny biting them. I don't know what that means.

I'm not saying it's something that shouldn't be going on. How hard of a bite. I just, I just, that's not. I mean, he told me he wanted to do the life rights deal with you. but you flipped out. I did not flip out, bro. Like, I keep trying to explain to everybody. Like, I keep trying to explain,

this is who I really am. And anybody who knows me will tell you. So why won't you do the deal with it? It's not even about doing the deal with him. I'm explaining to you once again. He put me and my people in a situation to where somebody could have been hurt. He's out of town, dude.

He don't get it. And I get that. And a lot of it was, I take a lot of responsibility for it. about us doing the deal this about us having to understand it right and with me is if I understand you right and I'm listening to all the your wishcraft and all the other shit you got going on right and I'm not next to me I don't I don't say if this if it floats your boat then I'm not going to say nothing to mad about it right but the way that I am right you can't tell me to put down my guns and believe in God my God I do I'm a very firm believer in God strong in my faith

and I believe that my God got me Glock's for a reason because everybody is not as faithful as I am. You know what I mean? So you can't be upset at me for making sure that my security. My security ain't your security. I feel threatened way faster than you do. You know what I'm saying?

He threatened me with the dude, Tony Warwich, and this will go back to Tony Brick baby now. See, none of my homies... None of my homies would have got up here. The gay mover from Texas. No, that's definitely not who he is. None, yeah. Not recognized by incumbent.

No, I'm not even recognized. That's the one Brick Baby was taking, make it passes. Yes. I don't know. I'm not about that. What? No, they were just being homies. They was talking about, do you want a six-inch or 12-inch subs?

They were talking about that. They actually had a pile of subs, though, remember? Kriman gave him one? Yeah, we don't even play like that. This is my whole point with that. See, you wouldn't have none of my little homies. None of my little homies would even entertain that dude. I'm saying, we don't play.

We want the real ops. We don't want nothing like this. That's going to make the whole community look bad. This is what's what's called with morality. You know what I'm saying? Like, when they found out who it was, like I heard with Brick baby, he was saying, oh, I didn't know he was him fin of coming this, that, and the other, when you found out, you would have never, I would have never been on there with no dude talking about he from,

I got niggas, I got real niggas. So, why should Brick came from 6-0? This is what I'm saying. He don't care about what a, who wants to know that you're, Adam the one put him in play to do that. Okay, this is what I'm saying, I believe that too. It didn't show up. It didn't show up.

I was going on your ass. America at the time. I was about my honeymoon with that one went to. That was the bullshit. I wish I was over that show. That was bullshit, though. And my whole point with that is this right here. Our community, we wouldn't even play it like that

because we know, we know who our enemy is. And we know if our enemy was here, Joe has to be dead in the bathroom. We fuck with real motherfuckers. Niggas that's coming here right now. We know what are at because they got guns and we got ours. Them is the ones we play with. So we're not going to even even entertain this dude right here

because the ones we fuck with ain't that they ain't, they ain't you. Every community got homosexuals. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not denying that at all. Everybody got a homie doing some shit. Yes, they do. And this is what I'm saying. I got a whole list of motherfuckers, right?

Because, see, that's my whole thing about it. I keep trying to explain y'all. Everything that they're saying about my community, we being homosexuals, all that shit with fat right now. That was 30 way. Yours were just exploited on the internet. I agree. And that's what I'm saying.

Everything they're talking about is 30 years ago. And in the new shit, everybody got out of 30 years ago. Wait, wait, wait, fat right now 30 years ago. Well, there ain't no fat right. It was the other shit. I know. just stop and I don't know the dude's name if you let me explain and each and every

one of them dudes are no longer from our community period I don't I don't know well I'm letting you know okay okay so this is what I'm saying though it's also been other shit with other communities on there and look wait again they're talking about the whole prison shit so I was in jail with all these dudes I know them first hand

who was doing what and what was going on so I mean but if they keep playing the jail I will break these niggas hearts it's a lot of I will break these niggas hearts I used to see dudes in the cell with a and go on family visits with the water. Swear the God. It's crazy.

Reptable, dude. From everywhere. And I got a whole list. So they better quit playing with me because I would break these fools' hearts. Your biggest homie is a homosexual. That's crazy. So you said in that situation that came out like three, three, four years ago, they no longer from the community.

Who? The dudes that was the one of the fish net stockers. First of all, he was never from our game. He was from A. Trey gangster. That was not my homie. No, you can't say that. That's what he said on the end.

you someone to do with the fishnet, they called him. He said, I already talked to the big homies? No, no, that's the dude. I thought you was told. I don't know. That's what I thought to. That's the one of the thing, on his knees, baby oiling yourself up with the high-gillers and fish.

I know you're talking about. Yeah, I know he's no longer from our gang. Then you have the other two dudes. They're no longer from where we're from. They can no longer come to the community. Because he acts like he was proud of, he didn't give a fuck. Well, I mean, I mean, I mean.

He said, you know what he said? We're not a, we're not a, we're not a, we. dude was perform a fallacy on another dude while the female was videotaping. He said, y'all mad, y'all just mad because I'd do a better job than your woman. He gave it up and said he's a rider. That's a sassy shit. That is some weirdo shit, right? So this is our community.

This is all splainty. But I haven't seen nothing since that. This is my community, because of all of the gay bashing and everything that's been going on, right? Our community is one of the most homophobic communities there is at this point, bro. I haven't seen none of that shit is tolerated, especially with the young homies. Like, they wait, they, you know what I'm saying? It's not, my whole thing is this what I was speaking about

with the full extra shit in the rumor that was in jail. He never admitted to that. Wait, wait, wait. He said his homie did it. Wait, but this is the thing, though, it doesn't even matter if he did it or he didn't. I'm speaking about the climate, the climate, the climate that it elected, right? It elected some blood dude to do it to an East Coast dude. He put a pickle in the dude ass, and then the little blood dude,

the rapper little dude, he went in the cell, took a fade with his homeboy, I mean, took a fade with his enemy, and then his homeboy is saying he busted out because the enemy dude was acting like he was going to stab him. Just the climate they got in jail. You don't know if a motherfucker going to knock you out and fuck you or stab you or whatever.

We're supposed to be just faith. Just the climate. You can't say that. You can't say it. No, no. In defense of this error. In defense of this error. Niggas get knocked out.

Niggas get knocked out and violated. Been going on. from way back. But this is what I'm trying to explain to you. Wait, stop. Wait, stop. Listen, listen. Come on, bro.

I'm trying to explain you. All of that shit is prehistoric shit, bro. We don't do that. We, listen, what I'm saying is going on back to you. It was, but none of my homies, not, you can, listen, we don't even play. If you're getting locked out, a motherfucker's probably piss on you or do some. Nobody is never for, that. That's what the difference.

The difference is that when you penetrate in a man, right, in any any type of way. Stop, wait. This is what's the tada out? We talked about tada out. What's the difference between him knocking you out and sucking your dick or him knocking you out and putting carrots in your ass? It's all gay shit that we don't condone and we don't play in. I'm going to fuck.

We caught are the biggest up. Nick's going to whoop you're never coming here and say that we touched you the way that we wasn't supposed. That was the old way. That was the old way. Well, he was a lot of way. Okay, he never copped to it. But I'm trying to explain to you. The dude who said it to him or who put it out there?

You said it happened to a dude that was handicapped. I said that this is the rumor. If I was the leader of a gang, for sure, I would say, yo, we're not putting carrots in anyone's ass. Like, let's at least have some basic decency. Even the Geneva Convention have rules of war. This thing that you can do to show that you're not human. We ain't never practice.

But somebody puts a carrot in my home. What you mean? What you mean? That way. Do I got to go get back? Do I got to bust out the pickle? I don't know. No, no, that's not.

See, I'm not going to never wait. Look, you got a crypt talking about what happened with a blood. We don't know nothing about that. Ooh, what's it, homie? What's his name? I don't speak on names. What's his name? I don't know his names.

I'm just saying, this is the rumor. This is the climate that they got going on, right? And I'm saying that that climate didn't come from us. The booty stuff didn't come from the hovers. That sure is so disrespectful you got on. Dang. Why is that disrespectful? That's a dish where you know what I'm talking about.

You know what I'm saying? That sir is so disresement. Oh, because he's got a blue round. Yeah, but, Bree. Do you understand why I was disrespectful? Because he was moving around with bloods? No, I don't care about, no. I don't care about that.

This is an icon, bro. You know what I'm talking about. I don't know. You always don't. You always don't. But you always on bullshit. Hold on. He got a puck on his shirt with a blue rag on his head.

And that's what supposedly unaligned me was the thing is with blue racks. Oh, okay. That's what they say. So you're on some drill shit, huh? Yeah. That's fucked up, gummed. Not at all. I'm one of my favorite dudes.

Everybody think I hate on Tupac for something. You do. You do. I watch you. Where? Okay, okay. Here you go right here. Just like we were just talking about certain shit that you ain't supposed to say. Give me one. Just out of, just out of, just out of courtesy to everybody else. It's certain shit that you shouldn't say. What I saw?

I shouldn't say. I can't speak on it. Because you're bad. Wait, I'm not cap. Listen to me. You're very smart. I said, no, wait, listen. No, I'm going to talk around the situation because I don't remember exactly what you said.

What it was was that it was basically that... I said he wasn't against. He was more of a revolutionary. Okay. Keep going. What else? What was more of a rapper? I said, you guys,

making him look bigger than what it is, like shooting the police. Me and you both know, we got homies that all did it. When a homie self and get out on the police and walk up, that's a different type of homie versus you having an altercation with an off-duty nigger and playing clothes, and you pop at him and realize he's the police.

Because if you'd have known here the police, you probably wouldn't have popped at him. Versus the homie that knew this is the crash. That was two different situations. Right? Okay. But at the same time, they both popped at the police. Huh? You know what I'm saying?

At the same time, at the end of both of those scenarios, the end result was that the police was still to pop. I commend him for popping at the white boys who try to get him off the brother anyway. But all that saying pop went over there and did that to the police. He didn't know that was the police. Okay. But at the, that's the same way. same time, it's not his fault that ended up being the police and he ended up

looking that way. It's not his fault. It's still the same shit. I called him a follower. Sheep. Everywhere he went, he turned into that. Keep it real. When he went up to the bay, he had to gumby. But in his defense, in

Tupac's defense, he was an artist. So he was able to shape himself to whatever his surroundings. I got homie from the bay down in my nigga Friscoe, Nicky from Fillmore, been on his 17, 18 years. He don't do nothing but Friscoe. He ain't crippling.

He ain't crippling. He didn't come from that, though. Tupac didn't come from that. He came from up north and then was just New York, right? No, he come from New York. Yeah. Oh, I thought. His first name was MC, New York, Baltimore.

New York. New York. Yeah. New York. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But I wanted to know what I said disrespectful.

Well, I didn't say it was disrespectful. I said there's certain things that you shouldn't just say. Like what? Tupac's public image would not have survived the clubhouse. era, given all the stuff that he did, that given the current level of scrutiny that we give people, would just...

I mean, he probably wouldn't have done those things if he was alive in this era. No, he wasn't a rapist. He's a rapist. No. You need to be quiet. Wait, man, homie, you can't be called on my on my shirt, no, rapist. Hold on. Did you watch the Vlad interview with the victim? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, go ahead, go ahead.

A nigga hit the yard. Okay. You were a darny-mother. Outside of Y. You were dirty, No, stop. You're dirty, bro. Statutory.

Statutory, we accept. Statutory, we accept. When a nigga hit the yard and the state penituary and that paperwork come down and say a sex crime on a woman, how does it go? You're gonna get bust on

and get up off the yard. So tell me, here go to problem. You older than me, two years, you're 50, right? Oh, 48. Wait, though, but wait, though. I didn't make the rules. Well, you didn't. But wait, though.

Let me show you something. Let me just say you something. Let me just listen to me. Wait, wait, just listen to me. Let me say something. He ain't got a sex crime. But he was charged with stuff of that nature. No, he wasn't charged with the sex crimes.

There's a video of his phone and his bitch on the ground, right? Okay. He got freaky cries, but he ain't got a sex crime. Yeah, man. Now, come on. No, bro, I want to know what I said. You gumby. Usually when you say something,

you got put the facts on the day. I did. I just hit the blood. I just forgot what we just talking about. Tupac. Okay, but I'm saying, yeah, but you was talking. That's why I say you was dirty because I knew you was going to go to the prison situation, right? You knew I was going to use

what we're taught. Wait, wait, yes. So what we're talking about wrong? That's wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to show you, right or wrong is relative. Show me, I'm going to show you. Look, because I know for a fact that I'd have been around homies, bloods, crips,

and they had sexual charges. That was false, false. No, listen. No, they had sexual charges on them and they were still on the main line. Listen to me. They don't go like that. You don't go. What kind of charge? It has sexual rape charges. Listen to them.

Why y'all didn't tend to it? Because this is what happened. For a long time, the blacks wasn't tripping on those type of situations because you had these high-ranking gang members who had these type of charges. And so... Selected politics.

Everything is relative. You know that. But when somebody else come in, who ain't high-ranking with them, niggas given order to blast him. Tupac would have been able to get away with fucking anything in there. No. Tupac?

No. That goes back to... Tupon got here, too. Did you tell him to go PC? No. No. Did you tell, are you sure? I didn't.

Okay. Well, whoever told him that? I believe this. He shouldn't have been in CMC day one anyway. But this is the thing, though. He's in Canada. He don't fall up under no script. This is what I'm saying.

But this is what I'm saying? Brod don't fall up under no script. He don't, but this would, when you go PC, you lose all your rights on this side over here. I didn't know that. I didn't know that y'all was a PC. Yeah. You lose all rights. Don't nobody care about you anymore.

Like, Toy Lane's like, like, motherfuckersers is a new. anyone. But you have to choose the PC up. You have to say, okay, I can't be... I'm not sure, but... But see, PC, I don't think they go like that. No, he was on the whole PC, S&Y Y are. That means he went from the gate and PC. I don't think so. Wasn't under 50-50 yard? No. 50-50? Yeah. That's all the PC, though. When I... Let me ask you seven. How many prisons don't be left where niggas could go? Because they they mix it all of them. This is the thing, though. They have a whole set of rules and protocol for dudes who are in prison and you're supposed to be active.

Toy Lane's from Canada. Okay, so stop. He don't claim cripple blood of nothing. Okay, so stop, so stop. So there's nervous. So he shouldn't have went to check his nuts in to the police. He didn't check his nuts in. He went PC.

He didn't go EOP. He on meds too? The fuck? Bro. Like, no, no. He's on a camera getting hit 14 times. I understand that. He's a police.

He's a public yard. He's a public figure. He's a public figure. You know when he comes from that hospital, they're already looking at it's a lawsuit. You know it's a lawsuit. I got the wrong video. It is. It is. It is. It's a lawsuit. Ain't nobody getting hit 14 times. The police, you can see through the dome is at the bottom.

Nobody hit an alarm, no mace, no gunshots, no nothing. You got two at the bottom. They're serving breakfast. So they're supposed to be supervised it. Gunn Tower up top. Gumby, we can see the prison right here. Ain't no way you getting hit. And when you look in the dome mirror, the police at the bottom of the staircase. Well, you know, the thing about that whole situation is a conspiracy. Dunby.

Wait, listen. He could have pissed off one of the COs. Prison is a different beast. I understand that, but we know, no, everybody ignored it. What does that tell us? They're serving breakfast in the building. I understood. The police is doing what during that time?

Yeah, they're watching the staircase. He's getting hit on the staircase. Okay. He is screaming, help, help, help. I didn't hear it. No movement. Nobody ever approached him. No buzzers hit.

No nothing. Torrey Lanes, for the record, is from Canada. He ain't obligated to fall up. None of his crippling bloodshed. Let me explain to you what happened with him, right? When he took himself and gave himself to the police and said that I can't stand on my own ten toes.

Wait, stop. Take himself to the hospital. Niggins. No, I'm not talking about when he got stabbed. I'm talking about when he got stabbed. I'm talking about when he PC. up. He didn't know that, bro. He went from L.A. County to reception.

He don't know. He's sitting in reception waiting to go somewhere he can buy a TV. Tori Lanes ain't like one of us know what's going on. He knows what he's... No, he didn't. He knows what people are going to say. He does. He made that choice.

No, he didn't. Come on, bro. You know, got it. He made the choice, bro. Like, before... Hold on, Gumby. Go ahead. I'm listening. When his ass is in reception, they look at at his C-file, they see who he is.

Are they going to send him to a hard yard or a soft yard, right? But not a PC yard, not a PC yard. Listen, just like they have 180 and 270. 180 is high desert. That's where we opened up, me tanking all the motherful, we opened up high desert. That's 180. That's, that's bad rock. Okay, you got to have to 270 when you come down to Calipat and they got drugs, they got all the type of shit, you know what I'm saying? Prison is a different society, right? And what I'm saying to you is that, look, you know he's a entertainer

I get that right but even entertainers either entertainers are people who should be in jail what would have some amosty you was railroading and lied on no that's not what we're talking about we're talking about him giving his nuts up bro

no he did let me show you how he moved like a civilian okay listen you got some millions in jail that ain't PC listen let me ask you what was the worst that would happen to that man if he went to jail I mean, went to the general popular. I don't think he asked where to go. He just went where they sent him.

No, they're not going to send him to PC because they got to when you go to PC, you got to sign papers. You got to, you got to, you got to do some shit. I think it was over 50-50. No, but just some say, even if it's a 50-50 or, right? You have to be. Tahitabee?

That's a hash of me. They used to be one of the spots, too. They turned out. They turn out all of the spots. Every, every, every. Folsom. Folsom ain't fucked up, is it? No, Folsom still.

Solidad ain't fucked up. This is a lower level. I know that, but it ain't fucked up. All them fucked up. Every prison you go to, why you think every time you see it wants that felony clout? What's they doing with Chino? They're killing them. They're killing motherfugglers because they send them, they're sending lifers on the yard with PCs,

and that's what all this killing is. You got away from that, Tupac. Hey, we all be telling him doing something wrong? I'll be wanting to know what I do wrong. Hey, the other day, I interviewed Stu Boy Blue, and he just said, yeah, I was on a 50-50. You don't give a fuck. He just fully said, fuck it. I don't care.

And then, no, I want to know, Gumby. Because you've been sitting back watching. I want to know what have you seen me do that you say is wrong. Well, shit, we got a whole list. We didn't got you yet. We still don't add him right now. No. No, let's do him.

Let's do him. The whole point with you is that you told me something the last time we talked and it sank in. It sunk in. You said, Gumbie, I'm not a game danger like that no more. So I got to think of more the lines of you're more of a business person. and it's just going to go you're like a lesser of Adam

but you know more than Adam. Adam got the whole dumb found out. Oh, I didn't know. But you can't. You can't use that. No, I can't. At all. I don't use it. You bulldoze everybody. A lot of things. I'm being who I always been. Okay, but this thing. You got homie's been locked with me. I agree.

But wait. What did they tell you? That nigga, that's him. Okay, but wait, though. I'm saying right now we all in, you and you guys are in a position, right? That I was speaking this, even with him. It's certain things that you have to wait, whether or not, want to say. Like what?

Just like, like anything negative that you want to say about an icon like this dude. You know what I'm saying? Even if it's true or not? Wait, even if it's true.

But are you not trolling him with the shirt like you said? No, this is my partner. I'll fuck with him. Oh, okay. That's my partner. You know,

the cribs got him out to where he put the blue rag on his ear. Oh, man. Come on. This is, can we all just get along, bro? What the fuck we do with him?

Or is it? What you mean? You're saying, you're saying, that entertainers are all limits? No. not at all. Not at all. No, I'm not saying that. I'm speaking in in regards to if I respect somebody or if I respect they work and I know something that may not shed a good light on him instead of me saying it out loud, I'll let somebody else say it or I won't even be involved in it because wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Nothing would respect it. Nothing. Nothing's wrong with that. I'm just speaking for me myself. It's certain shit like I wouldn't, I wouldn't like even like with Nipsey Hustle, even though he's from neighborhood, right? I don't. I don't. as a matter of fact, I did two concerts with him as well. As a matter of fact, one of the promoters. What happened with Nipsey? Oh, man, he was a whole, shit. I did, he was something. What's the difference between Nipsy and Kripmec? Two different.

Nighting day? But they both got your hoodwax up. Okay, but this is the thing, though. It's a big difference between the same. Wait, stop. I don't know how Krip is the problem. Nipsey has that shit too, right? I don't know.

I'm going to be real. Now where I'm saying too much. There I grew up being, he would not. The thing, though. have made it. The whole thing about it is that his making it, right? His making it is depending on you.

No, he's not. He's in the feds right now, right? I'm like, he's in the feds right now. That's my M. I'm sorry? I'm just saying I discovered his talent early on. He's an icon.

So you said I said something disrespect about Nipsey? I'm talking about Kudak. I said that what you said, if it's the truth, it could never be considered disrespect. But what did I say? Spider-Man meme. What happened?

What is that's what I said? Wait, wait, this bullshit going on. I've never said, I've never said nothing. What I'm saying is that, what I said is that,

like, the things that you say, you say is not disrespectful. I feel that you feel they're not disrespectful because you may feel that it are the truth. And the truth can never be disrespectful. It's just the truth. I'm gonna be.

You watch me tell a person quick, you want to bet. Mm-hmm. You know my type. Mm-hmm. You know what I say, no nothing. But you know what I say about anything you want to bet.

Yeah, that means you already know what you're talking about. I get that part. They don't. I was in jail, too. Stop what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that, look, like, this is a Tupac situation.

Like, you said what you said bad about it? One of my favorite rapper. I know, this is what I'm saying. So, just with me, in my regard, if I have, if I hold him in any type of esteem, you know what I'm saying? You don't think he did no buster shit?

I will, I will. I mean, we can call the ball and strike a strike. That's a whole bunch of motherfuckers did bust the shit. That day, do you think if Pock would have been by himself walking two Caesars and seen Baby Lane and he was solo. You think he was. approached him like that, or you think he did it because he was 30-40 homies?

Keep it real, Gumby. I don't know the man personally, but just for my observation and knowing different situations that happen, the majority of motherfuckers wouldn't approach that man by itself. That's just the truth. That's my point. That's just the truth. You get involved with the people that's with you.

You know, that's just the truth. The dudes I respect, now I didn't see... Oh, I've seen it too. Our homies is going to push up no matter what. No matter what. That's all I'm saying. Don't do nothing what a group of niggas

that you wouldn't do if he was dolo. And it's a lot of key ways that I tell you I'd ran in the whack 30, 40 deep and he didn't change. You know what I'm saying? So my thing is when he did that, I'm like, bro, you wouldn't have did that if you was and now from that came this.

And now you in here, you could at least put the one with the thorns round his head. You come in here with the very same bandana that city that citizen shit starter so you're the shit starter

this dude right here I don't even am I lying you letting people just run wild on your show he's just kicking up dust

every fucking am I lying about just bullshit like you so God me my line I'm saying

it's just something I should be talking about that's like not even an issue that we need to talk about who

did what we got all that we're talking about a dude who got dear mama I love that song you know what I love

my mom I'm saying I love me against the world we're not going we're not going to politic on politics on part today.

You say that for another time, so I can get a little bit more word versus. I fuck with Biggie, too, though. Me too. I was a biggie. Who shot you? Warning. That's the one.

The warning is the one. Okay, as long as we're politicking on people, though, how do you feel about Treyway cooking up with the apron on, with his booty cheeks out? That was Photoshop. Wait, really? They say he was going to say that. They say what they want to.

They're going to always tell you what the truth is, and tell it and turn into a lie. My whole thing is that's that. might have ticked the picture. I just felt like he was fucking around. I don't even think... And now it's being weaponized. I don't think...

He was pulling to Melvin. It's not some gay shit. He's just joking. I don't even think I want to talk about my homie with his cheese out. I don't even want to talk about that. Ain't nothing wrong with him cooking breakfast for his girl. Melvin on baby boy style. Maybe he was doing laundry.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I had pillow fights and every day with my girl. We ain't talking about what we're doing with our girls. We're talking about some gang shit. Y'all forgetting what I was one in the damn picture. He was a bit by itself.

I seen him. He put my face in, I seen all the little bullshit. And see, that's why your ass is running scared in there right now. Who? No, no, bro. There's certain things that you're not supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, certain things like this is everybody who called and asking like, bro, how everything

that his whole content was down in y'all, everything from the very beginning was down in us. That means that he had something. No, that is. He was defending this. He wasn't. No. No, that's not too.

He attacked me because of the, Pink Peel situation. That's what starting it all off. He was wrong for that. Okay, so this is what I'm saying, though, because this is the thing, though. If you have... He was wrong for that. Wait, what's what you doing, King, Pill?

No. I didn't do nothing to him. Him taking King, Peel down, doing that. Completely wrong. Because he could have triggered something between... And he wouldn't even be here for. He's from down here. This is what I'm saying?

It's not... It's not... It's not... Everything, everything, right, like I keep saying, everything that happens on his podcast is, if it's not half-ass baked right, it's going to fall into the streets. like the situation was 607 and what he said.

You know what I'm saying? And so, like I said before, unofficially, you know what I'm saying? His whole thing was that how he was approached, that's what brought it out of him. That wasn't even the situation. If it's a conversation with a veered to the right, he would have never even said that.

But being that this is the conversation, he got to prove that this is what he is. And this is the slogan that he know to prove what he is. And that's what came out. You know what I mean? But he was provoked. It was pulled out.

You know what I mean? That's just the truth. We had this situation. We had, you know, some lot of things that So you think I was wrong for the man

in the apology to the community? I think that was helping him. I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't, no,

I don't, I don't think, I think it's helping him. Yeah, I agree. I don't think, I don't think, no,

anytime you do anything wrong or you wrong, a man or a community and you already apologize for it, you should always be able to apologize and help people understand what the situation was

and why it happened. Like, I just say, explained the situation. You know, he was egged on to say that. No, no, but I don't, I don't, I ain't disagreeing with that. I'm watching. I told you that.

We can watch it. He started antagonized about the 40s and the Hoover. If you eliminate the gang conversation, why does everybody want a baby unc? Oh, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't.

Anyone who said that word on a podcast would get the exact same amount of Adam, you being a hypocrite. I know, my whole thing. You being a hypocrite. No, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You being a hypocrite. Grid out of him. I didn't say it.

We only talking about the first part. You said what? You said what? Hold on. Let me sit back and watch the show. I'm going. What's he said? I don't hear it.

Wait, you never said it? You never played with it? 6-07, I posted a picture of his podcast set. Don't say it, but you know what you're talking to. And I responded on Instagram, via DM. You said, and I said, I said, podcast. I said S-Cast. Yeah.

Because it looked like shit. Oh, okay. What I'm saying is, He's not that. He text them that. Okay. He texted him that. Wait, okay.

A DM that. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. He's not that. So he's not offended by it. And I wasn't using it. And that way, I was saying your podcast looks like shit. Hey, yo, man. How much was some shit?

How much marijuana goes? I got this cell covered. Gumby Bluntz. What is that like 300? Oh, no. Probably like 150. It depends on what I put in it. Nah, bullshit.

It depends on what I put in it. Ray J. Roald's $85 a weed. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it don't cost me. It don't cost me, but then usually I put wax in it, moonrock. I'm saying, like, bro, I like... So it's all kind of shit in there. Not right now.

Just two, three different highs. Yeah, perks. No, not perks. The homies said I had Viagra, this motherfuckerfucking's bullshit. Five hour energy. Look at y'all, look at y'all, see? I don't fuck with that. I ain't know what I fuck with that.

But at the same time, bro, the whole thing is that, like, y'all got a responsibility about what we say, especially you, Adam. I'm especially me. What you mean? Oh, my God. Look at this freaky frog. What's that fuck? Bro, like... What's the same?

Joe Boxer? Let me get a whiff. Hey, is y'all serious? Hey, look, we will not be doing that in here. You know, see what I'm saying? I'm not smelling draws in here. Why, for real? Oh, musty.

I ain't no musty. In a good way. Fuck out of here. Damn. You're a porn star. You a porn star, too? I don't fucking dead omies. I don't do swore fights.

No, I don't know, I'm talking about with... He do, he do, I've seen him. No, he'd be doing high-fives with me in this time. That's all, Adam. With real members. No, real members. What members? From where?

Where are they from? Let's not get into it. Why not? A lot of guys in the game are connected. Shout out my boy Ray Black. Ray Black? I had a G-holme that was into the porn game. My big homie Thuny Thun.

A lot of representation. I could a date my homie Thuny Thun. Yeah, what are they from? I mean, look at Rico Strong. My thumb was just for female. I just, I just seen. I just, what's a dude. What's a dude?

everybody throwing eggs and shit Brian Pumper I just seen him another day I just seen him another day Where yeah yeah yeah On like Avalon and like a hundred and eleven For real people were telling me He was in Riverside

He was walking Was he wearing all white? He had on white tank top white skull cap Some great sweats And some Air Force woods I need him Find him Get me BP

I'm my actual question That I know you worried about I'm not worried about it Because I didn't kind of detach from a lot of it where do you see the streets as far as people's neighborhoods or what's going on? Olympics is coming.

Gentrification. Snitching and telling is at an all-time high in the next five to ten years. The question is, where do I see the streets? Do you see the streets? Do you see it going to some place? It's already a place we never thought it would be. But with gentrification going on,

Olympics going to happen, so they're going to be extra cleaning up. The feds is picking up low-hanging fruit because it started with the mob shit. They shut them down. Then it went to the BMF style movements. They shut them down, right? Then it went to the fraud shit.

They didn't shut that down. Now they're picking up, they're giving niggas federal gun. They're picking up bullshit, right? But what do you see it going? Because the streets can go anyway, right? And you see it kind of diminishing, disappearing? Murder rate out of all-time law.

That's a fact. It kind of says it all. This is that, that's not true. I'm saying? That could spike within... True. You see more people being forced out of their communities? Of course.

Due to being brought out gentrification. Listen, this is the thing, though, the jobs. What the jobs? I mean, all the, like, the black community in South L.A., you know what I mean? Like, over what we're at, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have a different set of rules for us, even with the police. I'm saying?

They're saying gentrification. We already went through that already. I said a lot of people that's from our community, who still give it back to our community, don't even live over there anymore. I'm saying they just said, this is where we come from. So this is why we have to,

everybody to understand that where we're from is, this is our way of life. And so this is how we were brought up. It's already, bro. I think 40% of what nigg's hoods was is everywhere. Yes, yes, yeah. Arizona, Vegas, Antlobally,

Montana. You know what I'm saying? It's the government. Of course, they're moving everybody out. for a reason, though. But what I mean is this right here. This is an opportunity for black people, I'm saying? Because

it's been like 40, 50 years, how long as gang bang and shit been going on? About 50-something. Okay, but it's of showing... Like 60s, 70s. Of trying to show each other who the hardest. That's some bullshit. Wait, wait, wait, listen. So, that's some bullshit. While we in jail, right, we have to unite.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of the people that I depend on. Well, yeah, you went to the pen, I went to the pin in 94. You were J number. J. 8.9.384. I'm J4-9-170. So you was in there when that man died in corporate in 95 and called that shot and they came together.

So, you know, I totally understand because I was part of that movement. This is what I'm saying. My whole thing is that enough people that were there and seen the situation where it was. It was beautiful. All the blacks together, Crips, bloods, everybody. Like, if it's a blood, if it's a blood, O.G.

on the yard and he got the yard. every Crip on the yard got to listen to this man I'm saying that's power That was built That was real power I remember one time It's not that it can't be done It's just not enough people willing to sacrifice

They say gummy you could have got your bread and left Left and go where Go where I'm a hero in my community My people love me You can get a mansion in Kenya for 140,000 But who I know in Kenya You can get to know some people

You can be so bored That's all I was about to say I did that already I bought property in Florida It was out there Twilling in my thuns All I see bitches with fake asses everywhere. Like, this is just, what a bitch is with the bullet wounds and stretch bars?

Like, that's shit out there. But, like, that's right. It wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Conduces of what I had going on. Why did y'all get mad at that half thing about reporting what was already on the internet? Y'all didn't get mad at the news. They didn't get mad. They just asked him to take it down, right?

Yeah, but why didn't get mad at it? Well, I don't know who I seemed to take it down. So I don't know why. He didn't say nothing wrong. You know what I'm saying? He just reporting what was on the news. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Hawke was trying to cover his tracks and erase all remnants of it.

We talked about the shooting at the Hood Day. Oh, oh. They asked him to take that down? Or they were mad that he talked about it? Yeah, all he did. He was respectful. Tell me about the shooting at the Hood Day. What happened?

Somebody got shot. Well, but I just, like I said, Hood Day to me is a little crazy. It's so happened. I was there. And, you know, I just want to say, rest of peace to the hunger, Africa. I'm saying, that's some real shit.

They said she wasn't even pumped, y'all sex. This is crazy, bro. This is a crazy shit. And this, let me explain. So I tried to explain y'all this before. Our community is so tight to get inside. Everybody think we're assholes and we just bullshit-ass motherfuckers. But once you get inside and fuck with the people that are the people, you know what I'm saying?

It ain't nothing but love. This woman was one of our enemies, literally. And she's at every hood. They never had an issue with the home girls. She just did. She just got hit by a straight. She wasn't targeted. Nah.

No, it was just straight. Yeah, condosos, this to her. And I got a few nephews over there. out her neck of the woods, Mac 90. You know what I mean? We were real close. Our daughter's cheerleading together. I look out for his daughter as he did mine when they was young.

Now, that's a, that's a very unique situation for her to be able to move around the hoop was like she did. But here's the thing. Doesn't it get to a certain age to where you understand what the temperature is? What's going on to where you may want to stay? Like when I go to Magic Mountain with the kids, I ain't getting on a roller coaster at all.

Because when I got on it the last time, I can't deal with it where I used to. Had me lightheaded and dizzy, I thought I was going to die. So what I'm saying at some point,

do you tell yourself maybe it's time for me to let that go because it's too dangerous? I'm 50, I'm 55, you know what I'm saying? You mean the hood days? The hood days.

I mean, you know the odds target the hood days. They actually do. And they ain't coming too deep in there. But see, this is the thing. They're going to get off from a distance. It's just random, what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah. There'd be 60 yards out, two, three with some sticks, and just start lighting it up. Because in their head, everybody is from this set because it's their hood day. But here it was. She wasn't even from the set. She got hit by a stray.

And I believe on some real shit, they may not like it. children should be, shouldn't even be allowed to go to hood days. That's true. Because of the possibilities. They have, they have, they have, you know what I'm saying? This is our most sense they have a park. I'm saying, that's for family and friends.

Like, we're having a picnic, you know what I'm saying? Because the police is going to be there more than likely anyway. You know what I mean? So that's kind of like the family and friends and the night function is for the grown-ups. I'm saying. So that's usually how it turns out in our situation. I know little kids. So this thing happened that night.

Yeah, it happened at night. And your old ass was there. did you lay out on the ground and tell God if you let me... I was getting my shit off the car. What you mean? Like, the situation was, we were all leaving. I'm saying we were all actually leaving.

So somebody was watching. I mean, everybody's putting on the internet to where it's like, no, the internet is what happened and people were posting what we're at. You can't do that, bro. That's what I'm saying. I agree.

Like, bro, you got people all year shit happening and shit happening, and they can't find people, and they're like, these dudes did this, did that, this, this. And they put on the internet, this what we're going to be. But the thing about it is that, you know, said. People showing up with ankle monitors. The whole thing about it is that.

Are you against all events in the hood? You got a crazy booger going on. Oh, yeah? Oh, my God. Don't get it on me? You don't want that bow. Give me a cue tip. I'll give him.

That's hard. You got going on. Yeah. Hey, who is that? Why he's doing a Crip? Can you show the background real quick? Nick, what you do? That's one of you guys?

Yeah, that's one of the most feared members in Southern California. Where are you from? North Dakota. Yeah. North Dakota Crip. You ain't never heard of Florida. Everybody hates you.

I don't know. That nigga being everybody. I don't, I know. He made a video with me, too. Huh? He made a video of me, too. Yeah. He makes a lot of videos.

Everybody got flack up here. He got to at least find out if he's going to get some views up here. I don't know why y'all smoke weed to cough like that. That's just crazy. No, I just think... You don't got demons like us. I'm going to be real. Now, I think you might like what I'm about to say.

What you might just say. This is where I think Hood Day should go. On some real shit. Magic. Imagine this. You're from nine deuce, right? Nine deuce, who? So, y'all got a whole year to plan.

for this day, right? Hey, homie, we got the plane book for Puerto Rico the Virgin Islands. The flights ain't done but 20. The flights ain't nothing but 200.

We got five, three floors at the hotel. Now, the nine deuces, an occupied half the plane, they're going out here where they ain't got to worry about no police. They ain't got to worry about no ops, no enemies, and niggas can

reunion and enjoy each other and have some real memories instead of sitting right here. I understand. Waiting for a month. Like, go to the club. Wait. Take a shot. You could do all that and not worry about. But this is the thing, though. I mean, it's going to be a mic.

You know, no, that's absolutely correct. The way, the way different communities handle, you know what I'm saying, their celebrations, you know what I'm saying, are completely different. You know what I'm saying? And usually because there's a lot of drinking and a lot of, you know what I'm saying, people getting high or whatever, you know what I'm saying, the security lapses. You know what I'm saying? But if you weigh

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I get what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. I'm speaking about not just my community. Everywhere. All these different people who have, you know what I'm saying, Saturday. But what it is is that, and this is just me, bro. Like I said before, I did with a lot of different people who are not from my community. I'm saying, so I don't wish no ill on nobody that I'm going to sit down and have a stake with.

I'm saying, I'm not going to wish no ill on, no neighborhoods unless they wish ill on me. mind. Yeah, my enemies is... That's what I'm saying, because my whole thing is that that's being fake. I'm gonna call Scooter from 60s, my brother, but I'm gonna go and have my little homies do something

to his. Like, I'm not gonna promote that. I promote self-defense. If they come over and you're shooting, you bitches better shoot back. The fuck. You know what I mean? So this is why I wasn't the APLU. I'm not that type of material. I'm saying? I believe in

self-defense. I'm saying? I believe in self respect, first and foremost. I get it. And my whole thing is that a lot of these young dudes, they don't have anything other than an image to live up to. And that's some shit that, like, you keep saying, why the older dudes

can't say, hey, everybody going to make sure you got identification. We're on Puerto Rico's U.S. territory. I just, you got some places to steal you with it. No, not only that. Not of you a year-out? But it's not even so much as that. I just told you earlier,

a lot of these dudes, the older dudes in their community, don't have respect. because they're not here to listen to these little dudes problem. Like when we had, we was raised up in this shit. You know what I'm saying? It's generations. Me, my brother, my cousin, so we raised up. So now what I mean by that

is that we know the standard that we're supposed to have. You know what I'm saying? So this generation is a little different. They have their own standard. If they get a stick or a switch or whatever, that's all it takes for them to be somebody in their head. They get in the mirror and the video and dance, what it is or whatever. But see, that all comes to responsibility.

The second life comes with responsibility. Can you live with it? Can you do it again? I mean, you know, that's just that ain't. I'm just telling you, but the difference is this. Okay, but this is the difference, though. They're not. They never done it before.

You get it? So when they go to jail, what they do? Tell. They'll know when to be quiet. Mama, on the phone, Mama, can you tell the dump the clothes? This call is being recorded. Like, this is what I'm trying to explain to you. They panic.

They're not seasons. And this is our sitting to listen. And this is why we don't stop and we don't check. Hold up. With me, my little homies know that we got to go a certain way because we're going to leave a certain way, right? There ain't nothing in the middle. You get back over there, you fuck up.

You're getting it. Just like at your mama house. Go out in the supermarket and show up. See what happens. So where your face test at? I'm too handsome for that shit. You got me fucked up. I wasn't with it.

I don't think that. I don't think that. I wouldn't with it. Right now, it's all for. It's all decoration right now. I got you. That's what it's for. There wasn't that much of that in your era.

Bullshit. No, we had some. Yeah. It was out. And then on the back of the neck. I had a dream of wanting to just do the right thing one day. You know what I'm saying? What's the right thing?

Clubhouse. You don't like my clubhouse? I don't know. Why didn't ever invite me to your clubhouse? I'll turn your shit out. I'll let you come up there. They listen to me. And they be talking shit.

They're 24 seconds. They know who you are? They know who you are? They be talking bullshit. I'm going to come up in there. They're going to be bullshit. I'm let you come in there late nights with the ladies. Oh.

See, look, y'all, I'm already kicked out the house fucking with y'all. I'm supposed to be back home already. I told you all that you. I'm already kicked out already. The girl don't like you pardon with us? No, I just had a baby, so I got to be there. You know what I'm saying? How old is a baby?

Oh, she's like a month right now. Gotcha. Got you. The baby will understand. So I got some. The baby will understand. Uh-uh. Don't play.

You're done? You're done? Are you done? Who? Am I done with what? Having babies? She's going to be 68 when you're going to be 68 when she gave him. He can't pull out.

Look at him. Hey, listen. What I got going on? HR, motherfucking. Like, what do you mean? You'll be 68. That's okay. What you mean?

You keep having five years. Like, you might not be around. Well, that's cheating them. That's not cheating them at all. I'm saying? It's better to be here. I don't know who my kids going to turn out to be. just like, you don't know who yours is going to turn out to be.

No, I'm saying. I get what you're saying. Listen, so this is why you raise your children, right? When I'm, if something's... You got to be it. Okay, listen, let me explain to you. If I'm not here, this is why they have the older siblings that was taught in the same way that I'm teaching them or trying to.

I got you. You know what I'm saying? Like, how many people were like, my father passed away? You know what I'm saying? Me and him wasn't even cool up until I went through all my whole situation. You know what I'm saying? My father was one of the first black police officers in California in 1962 in Merced County and in Louisiana.

shit. He was the army. How the hell he ended up there? That's what they sent him to. You know, you know, first token nigga up there, you know what I'm saying?

In real life, you know what I mean? So, like, me and him wasn't cool, I'm saying, up until I went to jail, I'm saying.

How old was you when you caught that case? I was, I went to jail when I was 18. 18. Yeah, turned 19 and went to the prison. I must have just missed you.

Yeah, I'm a big boy jail. I opened up like the State prison, real life. I watched some build new side of that. Yeah.

I was in Old Solidad watching the walls. It's all different now. It's all different. Double up for a short. Who on the back thing, 107? Yeah. Oh,

that's a big home. All head. We caught the chain together. He's gone? Yeah, he passed. Me and a big fish from 6'O. I don't go to chain together. I know all those old dudes.

I was a little kid. Fish looked out for me. I was a little young dude and with all these old dudes. I know all of them. I'm saying, I just talked to Frank the other day. He in Vegas and shit, fucking with him.

I know all the dudes that I know supposed to know. this is why I always tell my homies, you always do what's right, no matter if it's hard or not, because in the end, the truth is going to always come out. It's not going to come on right now. I had to weather the whole storm this little weird dude

talking about my daughter 13. She called me, Dad, you see what this weird old time off? I said, you know your daddy? She's a gang shit. My daughter said, Dad. Yeah, what you mean? That means... She ain't from who, is.

Hell no, you crazy. Did she ever ask you about the body? sure she talked we got toxic she lived this or her life she know the story she know what's going on she know her she know who her daddy is that's crazy first got out yes how heavy was that having to have that conversation with her not heavy at all because i explained to my daughter you always got to protect yourself it ain't gonna be heavier than your conversation what he's got going on what you do him and his wife is you know look you know they interview the female then they take her to the room in the back yeah i see her and they put it up

I saw the, you'll give you. So it's going to come with time, these badass kids, when she's going to school. So this is a lifestyle you guys are promoting in your house? No, not promoting in our house. No. I mean, but eventually she's going to become a vain. Work is work. Okay, that's what I'm saying.

So that's what I'm saying. That's what you're promoting to you. You have to, this is the way you have to sell it to them, right? You can't just say mommy and daddy was freaks and this is what we did. You're going to sell it to him that this is a business because this is what you're saying to everybody. This is a business, right? So this is what you have to tell her. This is what you're going to explain.

her. For sure. That's, that was my whole point. I mean, this is the same thing with me and mine. You know what I'm saying? No, let me just from the streets. Let me explain to you. My daughter, she's up at age and she hears all the bad things that people talk and say about her dad, right? But she know who her dad is, right? And because I explained to her what they're going to say or how they're going to feel ahead of time. You get it? You don't leave them in the blind. I'm saying what you're going

to lie to them when they're hearing everything. It's funny, though, because all she got to say, if they're like, oh, your dad's a killer, or she goes to say, yeah, he's going to kill you if you don't shut the fuck up. That's such a good, like, easy comeback for a kid. My dad going to kill you. But that wasn't, you know what I mean? That was, I explained to it. I'm saying defending yourself, you don't know how shit going to go.

In a fight, you don't know who going to win. You don't know what's going to happen, you know? That's just the reality of what happens sometimes, you know? Everything is better sweet, you know what I mean? No, that's a fact. It's a different gumby that interview, which I think he was on some shit. This one's not on an EPIL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's.

He's an Oracle. That nigger mouth was twitched. I told you my shit was caught for two days, like a 62 chef. You're like, I couldn't get my shit to go right now. I said, I'm good. Fuck with you. Fuck with the young. That's what it feels like when you're on that shit.

I'm cool. Oh, my God. I was like, why do I told Ted? I say, why the hell is Gumbie talking like that? Hey, man, hey, man. He was having a good time. So what's next for Gumbie? Man, I'm raising my kids at the moment.

I'm saying, like I said before, I got the whole little script coming out. I'm saying, I got the document. I'm finishing to be finishing up with the book April I'm skipping up April December trying to get to Thailand in December well I got some shit going on out there wait wait what you want to go do with Thailand bro I got the kickbox champion out there that's my brother oh is he Terry wow Thailand is different I don't know if I'm gonna go see whatever you do make sure you know what you're dealing with well I got I got to act like you're

married I don't go I don't go places where I don't have people at home man Thailand is different you're trying to warn you about the lady boys. Why are you always going to be saying some gay shit? No, he needs to know. He's sensitive about the road. You know how we out here? We're being in the mall and we'd be like,

don't look at nothing. I don't even talk to people. I don't know. Don't look at nothing because, boy, I think they've been out there before? Yeah. Oh, so they didn't trick you before? No, I just know because they warned me before we went. Okay.

I didn't even go to the club. I let them go. I stayed back at a hotel. I wouldn't even go on to the club because I knew they was going to be in there. And in my mind, I don't want to be looking at something, and I'm trying to figure out what it is, and then it's like, if it's wrong, now you was looking at it. So I just told you, I'm cool.

Yo, real talk, I'm going to tell you something. When I was 19, me and three of my BMX homies, we all went to Europe, right? Okay. And, like, my flight, I fucked in my passport. I was like a day or two late after them, so they got to Amsterdam before me. That's the spot.

And they end up, they basically like me, a fucking ran no no no no this is the Europe trip this is Thailand basically yeah yeah we went to Thailand when I was 19 or 20 on a BMX trip and my flight got fucked up they end up like one or two of them ends up getting ahead from a random chick

and they're telling me about it and they're like yeah and like I went to try to touch her pussy she wouldn't even let me touch her pussy she just suck my ass oh boy and I'm like that was a dude and it's just like piercing silence in the room So what did you say? Why?

They all just like, it made the whole rest of the trip awkward. Because they had no way to ever figure it out. But reasonably you could probably assume it was a deal. So he's possibly gay. If you getting hit and ain't playing with her pussyhole, y'all both gay. And if a random girl wants to suck your dick in an alley, like in Thailand, like, let me ask you this. So who put this smut on you about you and underage peoples?

it's because there was a chick that I fucked when I was 19 who I had met online when I was 16 or when she was 16 like I met her had like a brief interaction

with her online and then found out she was underage so I stopped talking to her for three years she said you did fuck her no I fucked her no say he groomed her yeah

because they said he waited I didn't talk to her the whole time in between I was waiting when that time you were like 22 I was young I was like 22 this was in Canada. Where is she at?

I don't know. We need to track her down. We need to talk to her. Why you tracked her down with your messy ass. You and everybody else fucking business. What you mean? Why you didn't track her down? We didn't know.

We addressed this on clubhouse. Oh, did you? We addressed this on clubhouse. Did you all? Y'all politics. Did you all? I got nothing to hide. Okay.

That's what I'm talking about checking. I'm never. I will tell you this. Huh? Lots of them on camera. Check out my work. I'll give you a free subscription. I will.

Okay, I'm going to need that subscription. I will say the white part. I will tell this. What happened? In California, we train one way. 18. That's what, right? But in each state is different.

It's more, it's 37 states. A. 16. New Hampshire, where he from? When he grew up, they was trained at at 16, you could. For the record, she was 19. No, she was not, but I'm yet. Yeah, when I met her.

No, when you met her, she was 16. Online. Okay. When you met her in person. Did she lie to you about her? age. Okay, there you go. She didn't lie to me about her age. She just didn't tell me until we had been talking online for a little bit. So then when she told you that, you just cut it off. So did you get any neck and your picture trauma? Did you get naked picture trauma?

Not at that time. Are you sure? No, okay. Two years later, you tap back in. Three years later, we end up reconnecting and we hung out while I was in Canada. But in Canada, what's the legal age you could say? I don't know. So, She ain't from New Hampshire. No, this is... She's from Canada. Way after I left New Hampshire. I was living in New York.

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