No Jumper - Luce is Telling?? Lush Lied to Us (Again)! Bricc Fell in Love with a Transmission???

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Adam and Wax show, and we are back. We're back. And it's a turbulent week over here at the No Jumper Building. A lot of crazy stuff going on. I've seen some scribbles. Somebody seen on the internet. Somebody did a look like a seven-year-old hit up on the build. That was the most elementary west side I ever saw.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Really? I'm kind of shocked that it took three years. Um, no. Almost three years. Did it? I mean, nobody ever did that before, so. I mean, nobody never had a reason to. Well, some would say that there's been plenty of reasons over the years, this culture of vulture.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Did the cameras catch him? I haven't actually explored that. So anyway, you've explored a lot of the stuff that's come out about this. Man, listen. You actually intervened on behalf. I don't know what, did Lush call you and ask you to speak to them before they were booted out of the cops or whatever? I get the text. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You're like, yo, boom, boom, boom, boom. boom, boom. So I'm like, okay, well, shit. I said, let me call this dude. I called Travis. I say, yo, I don't know what's going on. If you had no jumper, the building's a little uncomfortable, whatever you got going on outside. They're about to call law enforcement because they don't know what's up. It's a bad look for the building. You may want to leave. Right? That's what I tell him. He said, well, lush is this. I said, it was lush in the building. He said, I don't know he ain't asking the phone. So that was the bad part. they're thinking Lush is in the building.
Starting point is 00:01:32 At the time, Lush is not in the building because when I call Lush, he's screaming at some chick. No, next exit, next exit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because we had to tell Lush that there was a bunch of people here in the group chat, at which point he was like,
Starting point is 00:01:47 I'll be there soon. Like he clearly had to like run around, get all his shit together to get in the car, to rush over here to meet up, which he had obviously forgotten about. Well, we know why he forgotten about it because we've seen his state. He was on a vendor.
Starting point is 00:02:00 From what people tell me, his state. Seek one. Right. So when I get Lush on the phone, I automatically get Travis on the phone. I say, look, Travis Lush is not there.
Starting point is 00:02:11 He's on the way there. And Travis's like, yo, bro, what's going on, bro? Like, you, you know, you rescheduled on this from a week ago, and the people, instead of going back to Vegas, whoever they were from,
Starting point is 00:02:23 chose to stay out of here a week. I said, well, Travis, that ain't on lush. That's just on their day. decision. I'm like, Lush. You told him he could bring 30, 40 people? He said, no, I just told him a couple. Travis goes off. You are lying. He would be sends me a screenshot of the text. There were so many lies. And that's a real addict behavior, too, is that once he got pressed
Starting point is 00:02:48 for what he had clearly actually done, he started just sprinkling in as many possible lies as he could to get out of it. I'm reading his text. Yeah. I say, Lush, he says 11.30 tomorrow. You say, yep. He says, I'm bringing food, a cake, some drink, and the hood. You said,
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yes, Serski. That makes it so much worse. Right? So then Lus says, I thought when he meant the hood, like neighborhood, like, you know, because usually he'll just say mafia, and I'll say, mafia back. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, way, way. Mafia
Starting point is 00:03:30 Lush. I say, what are you talking about? So Travis, like, Wack, he, like, Lush, don't tell Wack this because I don't want to hear his mouth. I said, Travis, you really got this dude, don't play with, you know, because he's from one of them neighborhoods. They're serious about that, right? They ain't gangster
Starting point is 00:03:46 cribs. They ain't neighborhood crips. They're mafia crips, and they're serious about that, right? So, I say, look, bro, the building is about ready to call law enforcement. So, Lush, you need to get over there and help clear it out. So Travis, like, yeah, yeah, get your ass over here.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So he, Lus gets here. I don't know if he stays out there, comes in the building, because I'm not even in California. But I see video clips later on with him limping out. So, but he calls me from in the building. I said, bro, for my understanding, he ain't even on the schedule. You ain't even cleared him without him or nothing. I don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I don't handle the schedule, but I know protocol of the build. I don't even, when Adam ass was gone on vacation, and the camera was on me, I still let Adam know who was coming to the bill. Right. Right. That's just, I'm like, bro, it's on you. It's like, it's not going to happen. It's too much going on, right?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Said, you know, could you call Adam? I'm not calling Adam to talk him into shit. I'm trying to talk Travis, a dude I know into leaving before the. police come. So I guess the police had already came once, so I guess they came back again or more cars. I didn't know that. Look up in four
Starting point is 00:05:08 five cars. So I guess it clears out. Boom. Two hours go by. I get another call. Travis. All right, whack. Lus says he's going to go book a some type of space, some shit. A pure space.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. Pure space. And he's going to bring the no jump cameras and it's going to go up on a no jumper side. I said, hold on before you do that. Let me call Adam. That's what I called you. I said, bro, you're going to let the cameras go. You're like, hell, now, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I get Lush back on the phone. I'm like, yo, Lush, what are you doing, bro? No, I told him I'm going to meet me at the Del Taco and I'm going to just do content with you by the Wing Stop. This thing with Del Taco to Wing Stop. From pure space to Delta to Wingstack, which ironically what Lush actually did when he left here was he went and did a hood blog with a bunch of 13-year-old Mexican rappers. See, don't tell Travis that. Right?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Because, like, so I'm thinking it's all done and over with it. I'm like, Travis, listen, me to you, bro. He's gone back to the neighborhood, go to the house. Whatever dude talking about, I don't know if he high, what's going on. He like, Cah got a black eye, a big one. I'm like, what? Well, he did say that he had had a fade that morning, a 7 o'clock in the morning in his head. I assume he had not gone to bed.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Oh, no. So if he had a black eye, I guess that would be the reason. So I said, listen, bro, I'm just telling you, because I don't want you going somewhere. It's 30 y'all. Somebody called the police. Somebody get caught up, jammed up because do it on some BS, right? Boom. It seems to blow over.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I wake up this morning. Travis, no, Travis does the video. No, you sit me the clip. Right. Yesterday evening. Yeah. This ain't for Wack 100, but no jumper, fuck Adam, flush.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And no fly zone or something. I don't know, I don't know what he said. Me and Travis had already patched it up that night. Yeah, no, he told me this this morning. He told me, right? So I'm seeing it, I called him. I said, bro, you know any chances of you probably coming up there now. He said, send it to me.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I sent it to him. So he blames money bag rolls, right? Because money bag is narrating. He's like adding fuel to the fire. Damn, what's going on, right? So I said, well, you can't blame money bag because it's your voice, right? So I go to sleep, I wake up this morning. Travis got another one up.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Now, he just said, this ain't got nothing to do with whack. Now this morning, somebody says, they just said they called it. cops and gave him the name Travis Ford. He said, they said, Travis Ford? He said, yeah. He said, Wack had to be the one Wack 100 called the police team. If they said my first and last name, it was Wack. I'm looking
Starting point is 00:08:08 at this like, even though you had just been talking to him? The whole day, listen, I called him this morning. I said, hey, bro, what is this I'm looking at? I said, let me ask you a question. Your name on Instagram, Twitter, everywhere is Travis Ford, right? Your rap name
Starting point is 00:08:24 right yet. That's the only name I know. I don't know if you're real name is Matthew Johnson. I just know he's Travis Ford. Right. Yeah. I said, then why would you say this? He looked at it. He said, Wack, uh, I was off the Hennessy dog.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That don't make no sense. I don't know why I said that. Right? I saw I get Lush back on the phone. I say, well, Lush, who called the police? What, Travis, what you tell Travis? Lush.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Travis tells me, Whack, I know you ain't called the police. A, you wasn't there. Two, Lush already let us know who it was it called the police. I said, who was it? When he said it, I can call R&B right now. Right. I flipped out.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I said, Lusk, now I got to whip your ass, bro. Right. You tripping. I said, come on, what you doing? Right? And Lush is like, hold on, no. I didn't, he said, you're a motherfuck and moffin. You said that.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Woo-to-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo. So Lush is, you know, he's. you know he's going back and forth and you know this is back back back and forth and when it's all said it done I made sure I clear up that that individual was not to want that individual wasn't even at the location that individual had nothing to do with nothing right and lust says your whack man I got suspended I said okay I said I tried to talk to Adam but this shit kept popping up, bro. So he said, bro, you can't tell him what you just heard.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I said, I don't want to tell him what I just heard, bro. Right. I said, but it's gone from business to friendship to Adam, like a brother to me. I fuck with Adam. My girl fucks with Adam. Like, I don't know if I can sit across from him. and not say it. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Because if it comes out later on and I don't say, hey, what? What up? Did you know this? And I say, yeah. At that point in time, who I'm supposed to be
Starting point is 00:10:46 what I claim to be is out the window. Right. Because this individual, see, I've learned a lot of things at this table, right, on and off air. I learned who I can go at 24-7. I learned who I can go out a little bit,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and I learned that who I bet not attempt to go at unless it's in this space and I'm asked the question. I've learned that. And if you notice, over time, even when Brick Baby was free, you notice I backed off Brick-Bibby. 80 percent. 80 percent would suggest that you were really, going to go a lot harder before this reduction.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yes. I used to be on him. You were pretty on him. Yeah, but once I realized, I'm like, you know what, that's really his partner, right? And I'm like, I can't keep putting him in a situation with Brick looking at this. Like, man, you had the table with this dude
Starting point is 00:11:42 and boom, boom, boom. So that's why I eased up off of that. Right? You, you can care less, right? But the one person, you don't play with. is the hog grill lena i just feel like you don't play with her if anyone in the office unless you initiate the conversation fair enough i would say like in general if anybody in the office ever feels the need to place phone call to the cops for assistance that that should not be blamed on
Starting point is 00:12:16 anyone in particular it should just be like a blanket of we don't know who did it it was someone so you got to remember that kind of stuff doesn't need to to be aired out to the world. That being said, Lena absolutely did not do that. No. So when I heard that, come out of Travis' mom,
Starting point is 00:12:33 I say, wait, what, who? I call R&B right now. She's going to tell he flipped out. I swear, I said,
Starting point is 00:12:40 bro, what the flesh? What kind of motherfuck is you? Yeah, why would you? So then when he goes and try to clean it up, he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:47 oh, no, I said the plug to our girls. Adam can't come out because he's doing plug talk. I said, bro. Nah, bro. Imagine if I had not been able to get a boner because of all this stress.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Now, that didn't happen. My shit stood up. I actually busted two nuts. Two different girls yesterday. Yo, one thing I was saying. Great. You would have been proud of me. But imagine if the stress had fucked up my boner. And just to rewine, you ain't never had my girl. I heard that shit. I was just into telling my story. You get what I'm saying? I know I tell my story, hold that
Starting point is 00:13:26 mid-range, and then come back to it. One thing I can't say. You have like a to-do list in your brain? Definitely. Really? I've never been able to properly. One thing I can say, though, Travis didn't do no lying. Hmm. He didn't come up here and pop up. He
Starting point is 00:13:42 literally had the taco truck. He had like, he had to put the no jumper logo on the shit. He didn't do no lying. When he came, how he came, was agreed upon by lunch he wasn't
Starting point is 00:13:57 and I got to say that because a person to look at him and be like yo you popped up and violated the building no he let him know he communicated with how he was coming and I asked him why did he come that way and he said because I wanted to show some appreciation and make up
Starting point is 00:14:14 for the little merch incident oh okay he said so I wanted to like he said I paid the truck to put the logo to drive around all day to feed the staff I brought the cake. You know what I'm saying? People looking at the cake like laughing, but when you really think about it,
Starting point is 00:14:30 dude was really like trying to show like my bad. Right. He was really on that, right? I wish, because like, okay, if let's say Lush had communicated to us, hey, Travis is going to pull up with like 30 crips and they got a taco truck and they got a cake and we're going to have a whole little like,
Starting point is 00:14:47 just film, hang out in the parking lot for an hour or two, whatever. We'll get some footage all this. Yeah. That was conceivably. something that we would have been like, all right, cool. It just so happened to be a day where there was like almost nobody in the office. It was just a couple of a skeleton crew of employees.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And then meanwhile, I'm piping on camera. So I don't really got a lot of time to be hanging out. Oh, you were here. Yeah. Oh, you was in the back. I was banging. See, I don't know. My boner could have not worked.
Starting point is 00:15:14 That would have been a grave injustice. So he could have threw your old mentor off. I mean, in theory, it could have happened like that. Ah, shit. Which, by the way. bro it's crazy I made contact with Brian Pumper
Starting point is 00:15:28 oh he called you do you know this guy who put me in touch with him it's probably the dude that I met on on Hollywood Boulevard well I think he said that he talked to you about it yeah that's yeah he was supposed to put a single remember back when you was looking for it yeah dude like from another state or something
Starting point is 00:15:43 I think so yeah yeah yeah but I mean I don't want to I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch but if anybody can make it happen is him I might really have the content that the people are down to kill for so he don't fucking pumper no more no he does they're homies oh yeah he said i was his dog yeah but uh but anyway do you think that the one week suspension is fair for lush because i mean part of what you're saying about this conversation that you had this morning makes me feel like oh this dude is still tweaking because like i just feel like i don't know that side of lush exactly
Starting point is 00:16:14 but part of lush being a part of this operation i feel like is there has to at least be you don't have to be sober. A lot of people here aren't sober, but you have to at least be on the journey of getting to the point better, where your health mentally could be in a better place. Because the version of him that we've been seeing, the version that's not sleeping and getting knocked out, and he's inviting people here, and then he's forgetting that they're even supposed to come or so. It's too chaotic. This is not something that I think I'm willing to tolerate. Well, I will say this. Talking to him this morning, I heard nervousness, I heard them say,
Starting point is 00:16:56 I've been fucking up. I got to get my shit together. Right. And he said, whack, I don't want to lose my job. I said, I'm going to talk to Adam for you, bro. You know what I'm saying? I said, but you got to like either put a buffer in front of you or you just got to respect the pecking order to build.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You get what I'm saying? I said, so, and I tell people all the time, bro, that 48 laws of power, that first rule, people hear it wrong, but you got to understand it. Never outshine the master. Meaning, lush, what you were attempting to do, you can't make those decisions A to Z. You attempted to make an Adam 22 decision because this is his building. So you was trying to outshine the master.
Starting point is 00:17:40 You get what I'm saying? Never outshine the master when you do that. You leave wound for the real master to put your ass in the dungeon. You get what I'm saying? And I talk it to him, I think it's a learning lesson for him. His suspension, it hit him because something's going on where he's going to take a little financial hit. But me personally, I'm off giving Lush another shot. Okay, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I mean, I'm not ready to hang him out to drive just yet, although it does seem like if he keeps going on the road that he has been going down, that's a problem for me. I've never suspended anybody. There's multiple things when I look back on the history of no jumper. And actually, I got to give a shout out to Joe Budden. Because he'd be suspending people. And I wouldn't even know about it if it wasn't for my boy, Danny from the stop, who makes these great videos about what's going on on the Joe Budden podcast, great content creator, watch a shit every day.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But he'd be putting people on suspension for stepping out of line in their conversations, doing things that they're not supposed to do, et cetera. So that actually gave me the idea. I never would have thought about the suspension thing. I could think of a few times in which various ex-hosts were deserving of a suspension. but this is a tool that I now have in my pocket that I can whip out at any given time. Boom, you're suspended.
Starting point is 00:18:55 It's like we're in high school again. Yeah. You know, I think listening to him, he wasn't cocky. Like, damn, bro. This ain't good, man. I f*** up. Man, I'm going to get my shit right on.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I was looking at this seven days like, damn. He said, but now I'm going to take it and I'm going to get my shit right, bro. So I'm going back, focus. I'm not inviting anybody unless I talk to Adam. Boom, boom, boom. We said, whack, could I call you? I said, you can call me anytime, bro, if you need to run something by me.
Starting point is 00:19:20 For some reason, a lot of these dudes in the building be thinking I don't like them, but I don't know why. I mean, you are here a very select chunk of the week, and you're not usually here at the times when a lot of other people were here. But why would they think I don't like them? I don't know how much. Remember I told you forever. I said, I don't even know lush.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Right. I did. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm not one of those dudes. I know I'll be on the internet, but I don't study the internet. that I just know what's related to me,
Starting point is 00:19:48 the people that I know, and I was just about it. No, definitely. I mean, it was a disappointing situation, but I also think Lush will probably come out of it a better part of this business. That being said,
Starting point is 00:20:02 he's just been teasing a song on Instagram called Free Lush. Huh? Apparently. You can't get mad at him. We're still making content. But this is the same person that also put out a song yesterday
Starting point is 00:20:13 called The White Brick Baby. Lush? Yeah. And he's apparently referring to himself as Mafia Lush. No, no, they fixed that today. I told Travis, I said, look, Travis, I know a few of your G-homies,
Starting point is 00:20:27 a lot of little homies. Stop playing like that with that. I said, because that's going to get you and something. All it takes for Lush to be on here drunk, playing with that. And he's like, Travis told me I can say it, and something happens, they're going to hold him accountable.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So Travis told him, they're on the phone, yo, bro, kill that. Because I think that Lush had been starting to get into a better place because, as you may recall, there was a situation, I think it was the week before we had Brick Baby and Lose Cannon together. We had four extras lawyer Rosenberg, who were all big fans of. He was on the podcast. He came through with a big ass bottle of whiskey and Lush proceeded to get absolutely shit-faced. He had almighty suspect ready to smack him across the face because he was being so annoying. and then he ended up basically passing out face down
Starting point is 00:21:14 in a pile of his own vomit in the actual office. And I think after that, his girl really got on his ass to clean up his act drinking wise. I don't know how much she actually parties. I know she's at least down to drinking stuff, but apparently she got in his ear and made it clear to him that she didn't want him fucking up like that. And I think that that was working out great for him,
Starting point is 00:21:35 but I think that she went on the road for a little bit. She had some businesses take care of. And as a result, he gets, back to his old ways, all of a sudden he's fighting off 40 crips in the parking lot. Not fighting off, but sucking off, really. Yeah, I was like, I said, I know it tripped me on. I said, damn, my name you're tossed in the blender.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Travis, he apologized. He said, bro, was loaded off to Hennessy. I said, but what's bothering me, Travis, is loaded or sober. Every time I'll call you is to help you, he said, every time, whack, you call me to help me. If I call you for advice, you give it to me, I said, yeah, bro, I said, man, you know, I'm just curious on why I would be crossing those wires of you would think I would call the police on you. And he was like, man, that Hennessy, man, it just does some.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And you know what? I know a few of my home boys that, because I don't drink, but that Hennington, yeah, yeah, they turns them into demons and they be forgetting and whatever. But, you know, hopefully all, though, maybe, maybe Tribe would come talk to us one day or some shit. I don't know. How we figured out. No hard feelings. That's good. We got it over with.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So, okay, loose cannon has really taken a more adversarial stance against you over the past couple of days. It seems like he's decided that he really wants the smoke. Yeah. That's a situation. One arm B kind of like got on me. She had been on me. And I think what I did, where I did, what I shouldn't have done
Starting point is 00:23:11 because I got a bone to pick with you after this podcast too. What I shouldn't have done do it on the podcast. What I shouldn't have done was you know, you hear a bunch of shit and you just don't say nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's like you hear a bunch of shit I'm doing behind your back and you just don't say nothing and you look up and it's five, six, seven things, right? And it just one day you just explode. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:41 So I think, that's um that's kind of really what happened and i'm gonna be real i'm very crafty with this stuff extremely crafty i'm strategic with it and i fight these type of things different when you think it's just a head-on i'm gonna fight you from behind you from above and come from up under you and it's all like my manipulation right and because he's where he's at and I know him I know how to push his buttons what just what to say
Starting point is 00:24:20 just what to do just what to expose to send him over the edge you got to remember he has to fight me back from what he says right I'm not going to even put him in that type of situation to put himself in the trick bag on that phone
Starting point is 00:24:36 you get what I'm saying because once I start jabbing and doing the same and shit, right? At that point in time, me knowing him, he's going to blow a fuse. And then most people would sit back and laugh
Starting point is 00:24:54 once he starts to say and do things, to twist itself. But to me, it ain't really a laughing situation to contribute to him adding to his situation. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:08 On top of that, I'm going to be real. I never really played the game with Luce Cannon. You know, when I talked to Luce, I talk to Luce. You know, I never recorded phone calls. Unless he asked me to. I remember one time he was talking to his dad because he was trying to clear something up for Eddie Boy.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Something, like, Wack, record the calls so Eddie Boy, I know I tried, shit like that. But I never really did none of that with him. And whenever he was talking to me about things. But, you know, it's things I know. It's things that he don't know I know. And maybe I should have told him, right? But all this did for me is kind of say, why, you know you should have been put closure to that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And I'm going to tell you. Just double check. The audio for the TV is turned off, right? Yeah, because I didn't know if we were going to start playing. Okay, because it did start playing. I just want to make sure that they can't hear it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. And it was like, it was a couple of things that was done that I really like looked
Starting point is 00:26:16 that and then said, oh, it's like some sabotage type shit. What do you mean? Self sabotage? Not self-sabotage is when you doing it to self. Right. But when somebody that's supposed to be kind of right there with you starts to do things that could affect things that has nothing to do with them but just you, you know, you're supposed to see that.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But I kind of dismissed it because it was like, like you doing with Lush. maybe he wasn't thinking. Uh-huh. That's why I know Lush do one more time, think he got out of here. Because it gets to a point where you're like, nah, after this, it's going to be on me. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Right. Like the situation with game. Right? With Luce and Game? Yeah, like when he went at game on the Internet. When did you do that? I didn't know nothing about that. That was before you guys were cool.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But he understands that me and games relationship, you know what I'm saying? Whatever may be like, you've never heard me say anything bad or down in game. You don't know what I mean? You clearly care about that relationship. No, that's my brother. I love my brother to death.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You know what I'm saying? Period. Right? That's for life. Right? So, you know, my phone went crazy because people, when you let somebody get that close to you like that, and they do things,
Starting point is 00:27:43 they don't believe that you didn't know they were going to, do it. Right. You get what I'm saying? So, you know, good thing game called me. That's how I found out because he called me. So I called Luce Cannon. Game know me. I call Wack and Wack downplayed something up. I called Wack and Wack called Luce Cannon and ask him, yo, what the f f f*** is going on? And then Luce told me, man, you know, he was totally wrong with his information. you know, he was, man, I thought this. I said, well, everything you're saying is not right. That didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Gaming and do none of that, right? You can't fault a man for being at a celebrity party. On top of that, I never, never put the bird on my artist not to do some business if some business need to be done with somebody. You know what I'm saying? They got to do some business. I'm not going to tell a man not to do his business if it's, you know, worthwhile. They're not going to do the business. If it don't need to be done if something's going on with me or vice versa, right?
Starting point is 00:28:50 So, you know, I start seeing a few little things, but I was like, you know, I think in my heart I genuinely was trying to help loose and trying to like show him another way. Like on some genuine, genuine shit. You know, looking back at it all and understanding some things I understood, but I just didn't want to call it that. You know, I gave loose the benefit of the doubt. 10 out of 10 people was telling me things and I heard them. but I didn't hold it against him. You get what I'm saying? Even the situation here, right?
Starting point is 00:29:24 This is my place of business. Like, that shouldn't happen. Okay, but question. You get what I'm saying? A lot has been made of loose and suggests that he may be a compulsive liar. That's definitely what his brother and his ex-wife have to say.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Was there ever a moment in your relationship with him where you're like, holy shit, this fool lies. A lot. And about things he doesn't need to lie. No, it was, it was things and I wouldn't say nothing because in my head I can fix it. And you fucking with him. So it's like, I don't want to be friends with a liar. It's a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like, it was like simple shit. But in my head, because I saw him as like a, and not trying to love boy, I saw him like a student. Right. And like, okay. He may don't know how to get in the three-point stands. But if I keep working with him, he's going to get it. Right. Like, it was, I can name a list of things, right?
Starting point is 00:30:25 But I was like, I can fix it. And he wouldn't know it. Sometimes I wait a week and I get in front of him and I tell him. But then another few times it was like, and some shit I didn't pay attention to. Like, I'm like, yo, bro, you got a twin brother? Nah, he's 10 years older than me. I'm 32.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He's 42. So I'm like this, bro. I asked you that and you tell me that it ain't that I believe you it's just I don't think you would bullshit me about that right? Right. So that wasn't nothing I was trying to research. People was telling me, I'm like, well, what different do it
Starting point is 00:30:57 make if he is or he isn't, right? But then as time goes on, you start seeing things, you're like, you know, because now when you go to jail, your shit pop up. Right. So it's like, damn, you really are 42. So then you ask yourself, well, damn, you know, why would he? But I blow it on.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It ain't nothing. It's just, he bushing by his age, right? Whatever. Right. Maybe because he was a artist or whatever, right? The loose canon far as him being a producer,
Starting point is 00:31:28 I would tell people, no, he really produced music. You know, he didn't produce a couple songs, right? Do you ever witness it? No, I never witnessed it, but he would tell me going to the studio and he'd come out there with a song.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Now, as far as, he never had a conversation with me about this. these big names. He would just say he did this song with Nip and, and he would tell me he did the song. Right. Because he didn't produce the song. The song was produced by one of my old producers.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Right. A dude named Buckwheat. They call him Press Play Now. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so that song was produced by Buckwheat. It was him rapping, featuring Nip and YG. But he would just tell me he had a song
Starting point is 00:32:15 with Nip, right? And YG. So, but like, I never, he never would tell me y'all produced for Mariah Carey, uh, Nause, Drake. Nah, nah, now, he told me, he told me he'd been in the studio with Drake. I don't know. I don't know how true that is, but he said he's been in the studio with Drake. But you know, shit, being in the studio with artists could cut me any different ways.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Because I don't want to just take other people's word for it that loses a huge liar. But, like, there's a lot of shit going on. When I really sat back on my stream. that I did earlier this week. I sat back and watched the interview with his ex-wife. And the things that she's saying, it just sounded so real. Like when I think about the people I've known throughout my life
Starting point is 00:32:57 were liars and the way that she was talking about how, oh, he said he got shot 10 times. And then something would happen where she realized that that wasn't true. And so he'd say, no, I said I got shot at 10 times. And like just constantly moving the goalposts and just kind of like fudging the details. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And now it's like, he's going at brick with a bunch of shit that from my perspective is fake like this transgender saying that bricks some trans-pricy in there I mean I really doubt it well here's the thing with that right if he did I'd be proud of them no I listen right
Starting point is 00:33:27 because I've been the victim of this a lot of times first they start with one thing and then when I don't work they add to that then that don't work and they add to it so the first time the brick thing was addressed it was originally brick instead of axing the Crips
Starting point is 00:33:44 for some hair grease, he went and asked to transgender for some grease. Right. Right? That's all it was. Who he wouldn't ask for some grease. So when Luce ran the narrative on Brick, that he kicked Brick out to sell,
Starting point is 00:34:01 which I'm like, damn, I was kind of crazy because they was in there. It's obvious they was like running content, we're going to say we sell these. Yeah, yeah. And what's the other fake shit? Which I didn't understand when he kept saying, Big U trying to get Brick to sign some paperwork.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And I'm telling myself, what kind of paperwork would an inmate have for another inmate to sign on that side of the wall, right? But it's crazy because saying we're running content is the best excuse for just lying. Because as soon as you say we're running content, that's the perfect way to excuse it. But see, yeah, but see, that's the new wave shit, right? We're going to get to that. So the thing was him, Big U and Brick was in the same place. me and brick are sellies and I'm getting into it with big you
Starting point is 00:34:46 because you're trying to get brick to sign some paperwork right so I already said I said well I know they're in the same pod or whatever together them being sellies they could be might not be right I left it at that I'd never believe that big you was directly with them that would seem massively irresponsible on behalf of the staff yeah I didn't I didn't I never I didn't you know but I'm listening to it right Right.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So initially it was Brick went to get some hair gris. Then it went to, when he said he rolled Brickwell out to sell, I think it took a while for Brick to hear about it. And when Brick responded and said, nah, not only did he not roll me out to sell, his hand ain't broke, ain't no brick you hear, ain't been no fight. When Brick started like, kind of like clearing the board,
Starting point is 00:35:38 that's when the, um, no, I'm lying. allegedly Brick says Luce turned down the fade With somebody from Blackstone And then Brick, Luce turned down the fade With Brick Baby I didn't believe that either I didn't believe that right
Starting point is 00:35:54 So Then Luce ramped it up Yeah we got rid of you Because you was over there Trying to screw the transgender Now I get ramped It went from accident For hair grease
Starting point is 00:36:07 To now you're trying to But I'm watching it One thing I can say when Brick came out to say what he gonna say, he said it all. And he ain't said nothing since then. So at that point, Luce ramped it up.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't, do I believe that Brick asked the transgender for some hair grease? Yes. Do I believe that he tried to do some sexual shit with the transgender? No, I don't. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:36:34 This already was a narrative on the podcast, though. At a certain point, there was this rumor that Brick had basically, like been fucking with a trans person or some shit or getting his hair braided by a trans person and Brick came out with his actual version of the story if I'm not mistaken
Starting point is 00:36:49 where he had been getting his hair braided by someone and then he found out that the person who was braiding his hair was fucking with punks and that made him uncomfortable and he stopped getting his hair braided by that or whatever which is a far cry from fucking a trans person
Starting point is 00:37:04 this was years ago yeah this is before he got locked up why he was on the street which I don't know if lush or if Luce is just conflating these two stories and just kind of like roll out. Wait, wait, wait. So Brick said he had a man braiding his hair while he was on the street. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Okay. No, no, no, no, while I was in jail. In jail. Yeah. And then he found out, dude, I can, I can see that. Which is, he found out, dude, I can see that. You can't braid your own hair. No, no.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So it's kind of whatever. Bro, we all do that. If you know how to break, you make your money, we pay. We pay niggies in there, the barbers and the comb and the raisin and the braids. But I can see Briggs finding out, oh, you, you got a punk. in the cell I'm cool on you. Okay, and I think obviously if there is a
Starting point is 00:37:47 trans woman in your cell, like as in if there's a person in your cell who is originally a woman and now presents as a man, but they still have a vagina.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Oh, you're getting hit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I wouldn't hold it again, break if he's a vagina. But that's not going to happen in the men's facility. Why not? They're not don't put nobody with a vagina in the men's facility. I think they shouldn't, but what if they did? No, what I have seen them do is put transgender men, but they plumbing in a woman's facility.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, see, I would hold it against brick if he was banging that. I've seen that, yeah. Yeah, but if you got a vagina in your cell. But you dress like a man, but you have a vagina. Listen, we go f*** that vagina. You're talking about in the penitentiary, right? In the penitentiary. That vagina's going to get here.
Starting point is 00:38:41 We got it. You're in the penit. I'm at the front of the line. Get me in there. Listen, you in prison? Yeah. Yeah, that's going to happen. But no, I don't think...
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's going to be a very popular gentleman. I don't think... Listen, I don't think Luce Cannon turned down a fade with Brick. Okay. I don't think that. But I don't think Brick... I think Brick wouldn't have to ask to transgender for hair grease. Now, one of the dudes in there said,
Starting point is 00:39:08 Brick told him... yeah, man, the punk making googly eyes happy, man, what you think? That sounds like that. Right? So, I'm going to say this. If this is the same individual that you told one of the Crips
Starting point is 00:39:25 was making googly eyes at you, and after the fact, you went and asked him for some grease, I'm going to say Brick was flirting. Ooh. Because all the Crips is saying, he could have got the grease from us. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:39:43 What is grease? Grease hair grease. I don't, what is that? Oh, yeah, you white. Yeah, what is it? What is it like? It's moisturizing for you. It's like bacon grease?
Starting point is 00:39:52 No, motherf-ha hell no. We want to use that when you broke, poor, you need, you and get your brand out of lotion. Oh, God. But you might have to use bacon grease. Yeah. Yeah. That's him hard days. Hair grease. I never really had a lot of hair.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Okay. Oh, they got the d' like, like Murray's. I used to have pomade. I used to have pomade. You probably used to use three flowers, like the essays. I don't know. This stuff right here, Murray's pomade. I used to buy this from the bar of bed of bedside.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah, but that's like for waves. That's thick. Oh, really? It's real thick. Blue magic. Now, Blue Magic, that's the most common hair grease in prison. Oh, okay. That one right there.
Starting point is 00:40:27 So, you know, but I don't. That would be good for a Crip. I mean, shit. Blue Magic. That would be a good nickname for a good nickname. You get a lot of it for a little bit of nothing. Okay. So, but then, then,
Starting point is 00:40:38 then again, it's like if he was doing that and they were that mad about it, then why they did D.P. Right. Agreed. But I don't know what the politics is
Starting point is 00:40:52 in there. I don't know if it's like, you know, it's the blacks is show they got to like not trip the small shit. I don't know really what's going on in there and that, you know what I mean? So, but I think it's some brick and I still don't
Starting point is 00:41:08 what happened. I'm still confused about what they were sitting right here. Right. Because the shit, Brick would say to him, and the shit he would say to him, and the shit he would tell me about what he was, that was very confusing. It was like... So Luce was telling you stuff off camera, and then once you saw them face to face, he didn't have the same energy. It was, but you know, me knowing what I know now, I see the play. Right?
Starting point is 00:41:38 the infiltration game was going on. What do you mean? Let me get cool with Brick. Getting Flokos here, make Flacco think some other shit's going on with Wack. Because he had told Flacco that you wanted to kill him. Yeah, I didn't even know. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You know, I'm coming to you. I'm like, well, what's up with Flaco? Yeah. I didn't know either until after it was all exposed. Yeah, I had no idea. I'm like, wait, when he said, yo, whack, man, I said, he told you what? So I'm like, well, I would lose two.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And I sat back and like, okay, let me get cool with Brick because the shit he would say and about that and vice versa. And then let me, it was like he was in the building trying to make everything work in his favor. What backfired on him, let me tell you what backfired on him is when he found out that whack is a wolf. What kind of wolf? when he found out I was a wolf You know what happens? If you got a wolf and some sheep If that one sheep crosses the road
Starting point is 00:42:50 You know what the rest of the sheep going to do? Follow us. You know what that wolf going to do? He's going to sit there and he's going to maintain his position. He found out I was a wolf out here. When they start doing what they started doing And Wack took two steps back because I believe all of that was a plot twist to phase me out.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Knowing that he's now facing these charges, it does feel like that is such a bad strategic play. Listen, why tell Flacco that? Flocko's part of this. He should have been thankful for his relationship with you. He's already the enemy of so many people. He should have been holding on to that. This was crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He could say what he won't. They can say what they want. won't. Without whack, sitting that man on the side of me and moving him around and going to do podcasts that I would never have done just to put the light on him. Hater worlds. I would have never done that shit. I wouldn't have never, that shit was like two and a half hours out. Right. I only went for him. I didn't go for me. Did you make academics think that he was going to be interviewing you and Luce together? Yes, that's the only way he would agree. You did that on purpose? I made Luce Nip get on the plane.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And then, you know, I'm like, bro, just go ahead and make it happen. Because the only way he, because if he had told me, you know, on this side, I couldn't sit him. A little switcheroo. But what it is, I'm doing what I got to do to try to build him. And I ain't going to lie. It was a genuine, it was a genuine, sincere part of me that, like, I'm a help him on some real shit, right? But I think the whole time, and especially after listening to Gigi, right, I think the whole,
Starting point is 00:44:40 time because she said whack. I used to lay on the side of him when him and the fake manager dude, she said his name, came up with the idea, attack whack to try to get some attention on you, and you wouldn't pay him no attention. Hence the distract that he made. Yeah, but I wouldn't pick it. I didn't know. She said all you would say was, I don't know this dude.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And she said it would drive him crazy. She said, so when I looked up and saw him on the side of you, I said, oh, my God, he found he found a way to get to him, right? But what was crazy is he got to me the right way. Link up with you against a mutual op. No, that wasn't my, that wasn't my thing at all. See, when he called me, I asked him,
Starting point is 00:45:27 I said, you, you fuck what big you? And he said, nah, I did, but I don't know more. So I asked him what happened. Cool. Why? Because if you f***le big you, like if big you know somebody fuck with me, he ain't fin to let him in his space like that.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Right? Because you don't know what that is. Right. Right. Nigger might be a suicide bomber. Detainate you and him. You never know what that is, right? So, when the, when he proposition me to help him promote his show, I'm promoting his show.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I had no idea about some of the shit he was going to say. And as I'm listening to him, I don't know if he I don't know if he's running his play. What's up, brother? Right?
Starting point is 00:46:15 I don't know if he's running his play. I don't know what he's doing. You know when we're sitting in these seats, bro, our job is to listen, tap in, find something. If this dude is going to talk for three minutes, we got to find something that can extend the conversation another three minutes. And then off that three minutes,
Starting point is 00:46:31 find something to keep extending the conversation. The reason why we're so good at it, because my perspective is going to be totally different from yours. So whatever I see, you can piggyback off of it. We could take a deuce three minutes to turn into 30. Now that we know so much more
Starting point is 00:46:44 about loose cannon, doesn't it seem exceedingly unlikely that Big You actually placed this phone call about Nipsey right before Nipsey died? Listen, I'm going to tell you why I believed him at the time. And today, on my way here, Gigi told me some shit
Starting point is 00:47:03 that changed that. Okay. Sees and desist come to you. right at the same time he tells me um urban flicks gets a cease and desist so i'm like okay cease and desist go to add them to pull them down talking about it then urban flick gets one so they won't put it in the thing right so when i tell giji this because jiji said well why did you believe it and i told her this right and she said no whack urban flicks did get a cease and desist but it was from me, not big you.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Oh. So they got a cease and desist. He just tell me it from the big you. So my ideology is like, if Adam got one to pull that down and Urban Flicks got one not to play it, it must exist, it must be there. So I said, with Gigi,
Starting point is 00:47:58 what kind of ceasing desist did you serve Urban Flicks? She said all the footage were Black China, all the footage that was shot in our home in Riverside or wherever they live. live, right? I called the cameraman. The cameraman said Lewis Cannon never paid him.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So I, in fact, paid the cameraman and brought all the footage. I then service urban flicks and said, if any of this footage is in this show, I'm going to sue you. I own it. So yeah, it was a cease and desist
Starting point is 00:48:31 there, but the whole time, I'm thinking, you serve urban flicks to cease and desist. See, what you getting one and them getting one, I'm like, okay, he don't want to lose talking about it, and he don't want them putting it up. But come to find out,
Starting point is 00:48:46 the cease and desist that went to urban flicks was from Gigi. Had nothing to do with Big U. So Big U, Cs and Desist that he served you, was really in the right lane because he's saying it's a lie. If he's saying it's a lie, then it's defamation. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So once she told me this shit today, I'm like, oh shit She said, yeah, whack I said, yeah, I thought he He said, no, that's what he told y'all Because it fit. So, you know, dude is kind of like He's sharp in some ways
Starting point is 00:49:20 He's shallow and some But the crazy part about him God willing, he's going to be Most dangerous in his old age Because as an elderly person You're more prone to believe Certain shit Where he
Starting point is 00:49:36 falling short for that is he don't know how to see what's in front of him is really what could change his life that's genuinely that for him because he spent so many years trying to make it and then
Starting point is 00:49:53 you realistically help his trajectory so much put him in a position that he had been working towards trying to get into for all these years. He did everything under the sun. Diss me, do this, do that, do this. Nothing worked until boom, and I start positioning.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I could have told loose, hey, yo, whack, this podcast, I could have told him no. I could have told him no. Nah, but I'm like, okay, whack, you committed to build him, to growing him. Right? So, fuck it. I never forget. I was in like, I don't know where I was at.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I was somewhere like Long Beach or some shit when he called me about the haters world. And it's like 3.30. them fools is way in's riverside San Bernardino so here I said all right bro I'm gonna make it it took me like two and a half hours to get there in traffic but I went for him I didn't go do that podcast for me Adam if you think about it you never seen what you seen
Starting point is 00:50:51 here bootleg calf academics million dollars worth the game drink champs yeah you didn't see me Vlad you didn't see me with the little shit I didn't know them dudes but Luce would call.
Starting point is 00:51:06 If you want to talk, you got plenty of places to do it. You don't have to reach out to other podcasts. You know, he would even send me links. You know, like it's a dude, cool dude out of New York Blue, OG Blue. You know, these cats have got 200 subs. Like, yo, why could you pull up? So what I'm seeing, okay, if Luce could run around and talk to people and say, I can get whack to pull up right now, right?
Starting point is 00:51:32 and I actually pull up, then that gave loose value. You get what I'm saying? So, I did it. You know, not that I needed to do it or wanted to do it. You know, it's been like one or two times he called with some cats that wanted to pay me, but I wasn't crazy because listening to the number they wanted to pay me. I know bro got paid, but what I wouldn't do is kill it or demand more because I knew he was getting, even though he wasn't telling me, we know this game.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So I'm not tripping. You know what? It's an hour. I ain't doing nothing. He's making some crumbs. I make some crumbs. Whatever. I send this shit to my daughter for spending money.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Some bullshit. No problem. But I did everything I was supposed to do. The crazy part about it is right now, right now, when he's in a serious situation, his decision making on how he directed his team was very poor. He'll hustle. I'm a hustler. hustler. I'm a different type of hustler. I'm over here in corporate land.
Starting point is 00:52:38 He's got the IBM guys, whoever that may be, whatever that may be, kind of whiling out on social media, saying stuff that probably should not be said. That's cool. Nobody hears it. Right. I got to, they're mad because I won't respond to it. But again, it's like, I'm not coming down a hill that you can't get up. Right. And I swim, I swim with the children a lot. You know, I'll go out there in the shallow end and I toss the little ball and throw the little duckies, but I don't have to. No, this is real shit, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And, you know, it's getting to a point to where it's like, whack, you got to kill that because you own what you own. The things you got going on, the things that's established and closing out in your life, your business partners, your reach today. I'm on the phone literally like like literally like R&B's on the phone she said baby do you do you understand the phone call you just had I said what you mean? She said I think you
Starting point is 00:53:42 forget who you are and the reach you have like you was just on the phone with princes people and you made one phone call to get a huge artist to commit to featuring not only did you get them to commit to featuring you didn't make another
Starting point is 00:54:00 call to a clearance team have them forward the contracts over, got them to look at it and show it's authentic. Then you turned around and made another phone call and got distribution for it. Prince? Prince like Prince? Yeah, Prince. Yeah, they call me.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Who's doing a song with Prince? It's an unreleased Prince song. I got a huge artist that's featured... Blueface featuring Prince? No, a huge artist that's going to... Somebody that fits that. I wouldn't... Shout out to Blueface, but this is French. Like this is...
Starting point is 00:54:31 Everybody can use a princadis. This ain't nobody that's signed to me, but it's the fact I can just hit my phone book and then that's what it is. What is it? Boom, boom, boom. Whack, how you feel about it? Whack, how you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm sorry. Whack, how do you feel about it? Wack, how do you feel about it? We're working on it. Yeah? I see your security. You got a pack of new ports in your hands, so you got it.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It's some bullshit. Is that a pack of new security? Don't know. Is that a pack of new security. You're proud of your newport? You for real smoking new ports? He's a smoking newports. He don't do that shit in front of me.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Non-filter, yo. I've never seen... I just see the shit outside. You and Rick Baby are from the same pedigree. No filters. He smokes camels with no filters. You smoke Newports with no filters? I never knew...
Starting point is 00:55:17 Listen. I would have lost that bad. I respect it, though. Listen, look, this is some real talk, right? And I tell people this. When they hear me say, I don't gang bang. I think they're not hearing me, right?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Well, your homies. Well, my homies is with me. They're grown-ass men. I don't call them little homies because they're grown men. But they will tell you they have been around me since they've been little. And certain shit, like, he would never let me see them cigarettes because he don't want to hear. See, now I turned into big brother, uncle. Start.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Lecturing him about. Because my homies, yeah, they're from my neighborhood, but it's deeper than from my neighborhood. It's more of a brotherhood thing, right? Right. So they get into it all the time. I'm in the middle of it. Oh, human baby Cuban? Oh, bro, I'll be in the – but I know they're not going to swing.
Starting point is 00:56:24 If I'm in the middle, they're not going to swing. First of all, they ain't going to swing on each other unless one of them swing anyway. Right. But it's a different type of thing. You know what I'm saying? So we don't move around here looking for the gang bank. Do we come from it? Yes, we do.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Right? Are we looking around and we could go see five crips? Are we going to know where they're from? We can care less. If they say, what's up, what's up on me? What's all up to? What's up to? We're going to go over here.
Starting point is 00:56:52 We roll into. We don't care. Right? If that's what you want to do, Anne Hefei, when he came up here, He came up here with two of his homies They parked across the street We made show bro them got to their car
Starting point is 00:57:09 You get what I'm saying? Because I don't, ain't nothing going to happen to bro on our watch We don't know who know he coming up here Because you know what they're going to say We did it, you get what I'm saying? So and that's not our attention, but you know, all in all I had to sit back, my business partner just called me And they're like, I've been having this
Starting point is 00:57:30 discussions lately, like I was a kinnigarder, because the things that I'm into, I have to learn. Because I never do nothing about this type of business, but the depths of it is like crazy. So it's like, they're like, listen, you got to get the mud off or you, stop dealing with the bottom feeders because we're over here right now. Finalized paperwork is signing in the month of May.
Starting point is 00:57:53 So it's like, you got to be this way. My liaison just came back from Hong Kong, Vietnam, in Guanzhou, China. You know what I'm saying? Because R&B's been designing the sanitary pad. Luce said you're going, Brooke. Okay, well, loose would know. I don't have those conversations with Luce.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Now, what I do, what I... He tried to attack the diaper business, too, so the diapers ain't moving. That's cool. I don't know why he would have knowledge about that. He wouldn't. I mean, that's what he's saying. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:58:24 You know what I'm saying? But he has a video that's, like, dropping, like, right now. where he's apparently like raging out on you because you were rude to his wife. Well, here's the thing, bro. And, you know, I got a bunch of text messages I could play with, but I'm not really tripping because if I get the plan, it's really like a, he's at a disadvantage.
Starting point is 00:58:45 So if he want to holl and scream, I'm going to let him holl and scream on the phone. If he want to do that, he can do that. But when it comes to my business, respectfully, a man that came to me to help him become a name in this business, he can't tell me about my business. It's just that math don't add up. And, you know, I'm good at saying shit. Like, I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. Just to see if I'm going to hear it again. And I would tell Luce certain shit and would lose then realize I start hearing little bits and pieces from his little minions. remember I told you it's a bunch of things that I was discovering and then I would like say something to him he'll play dumb on me right but it had to be you because you the only motherfucker I told that dumb ass shit to and now I'm starting to hear it right you get what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:59:45 makes sense wait but okay so that's the loose stuff we had a situation that arose this week because Brandon who if you're not fully tapped into the no jumper universe He's the dude, the heavyset guy from Long Beach. Yeah, I didn't know who he was. Got into a huge argument with suspect on the news, and that was very notable. He on the No Jummer Show on Tuesday, we can actually slip the clip in here. He had a few choice words for you. No, listen.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You reached out to me very much not happy about it. I said we should get a podcast going with you guys. And then you guys ended up getting on the phone and talking to that out. So when Wack, with his lying ass, he was like, oh, man, you know, Wack, that's a problem with older black dudes. Bro, know his ass is wrong, but he tried to over talk you and he's wrong. Bro, remind me on my mom or my grandma. You're wrong, bro. He's sassy as fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:36 No, bro's being sad. Listen, he was being sassy. Listen, man, he's being sassy. Listen, he was being, we got the content. Listen, he was being, no, I mean, even if man and man, he know he was being sassy as because you were trying to explain to him the context that he was missing. And he's like, no, this and that. And I'm like, come on.
Starting point is 01:00:56 man represent us a little better you're at a different point in the timeline and you think you understand everything. This is the thing right I know me right and I'm not taking nothing from Brick Baby but certain things that said
Starting point is 01:01:13 if it's not an understanding before we see each other the understanding is going to be sought out another way right we all have our strengths and our weaknesses and one of my weaknesses is I'm still kind of tapped in to reacting to disrespect
Starting point is 01:01:29 when it's in front of me, right? So, when I called, I'm like, well, I don't think I know you. And they told me he was tied to, what's them dudes I like? The viral way.
Starting point is 01:01:44 The viral way, right? So when he told me he was tied to the viral way, I said, you know what? I ain't met them brothers, but I f***ed with them brothers. Let me tone it down a little bit and try to have a conversation. I said, what's the issue? He said, whack, the issue.
Starting point is 01:01:57 issue is you said I got marked out and this I said well you mentioned fighting and he jumped up to fight and used a statue he said well wag I didn't mention fighting first he said Adam was trying to tell you this but you didn't want to listen to him I said I kind of remember that but I remember you taking some clipback off the screen and you saying he don't want to fight and what he said no before that he said suspect says something else I didn't hear that I don't know where I forgot what he told suspect allegedly like said the N-word with the hard R. And Brandon asked him about it.
Starting point is 01:02:32 No, no, no. We know what the conversation is about. But he said suspect kind of said something as far as like him wanting to fight. And then I told him, well, we don't got to go nowhere to fight. I said, well, suspect ain't no dummy. He's no dealing with a guy your size in that small space that are disadvantaged. He's going to want to go outside. He said, okay, Wack, let me put something else in front of you who didn't know.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I said, shoot. he said after that podcast if suspect was you what would have been the energy oh when the cameras went off and we went out then I'd have been telling you let's get it out of the way if that's the way I was feeling on camera he said well I hung out 10, 15 minutes
Starting point is 01:03:14 in the immediate area and he says suspect and his buddy disappeared to the bathroom the whole time right maybe they went into two different bathrooms I cannot confirm it and I was not here. Yeah, this is what he says. All right. So he says, suspect had nothing to say to me when the cameras went off.
Starting point is 01:03:35 He didn't say nothing. He said, I'm waiting for him to say something. Right? So I said, well, if that's the case, then you got a point. I can't say you turned down. I could say you was trying to be professional because you're trying to get a spot of no jumper. He said, yeah, exactly. I said, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I said, in that aspect, maybe I was wrong. So he said, well, whack, I said you were sassy. I said, yeah, you know, my word, my word, that's like some gay shit. He said, no, whack, I don't hear it like that, but you know what? If you hear it like that, then I need to switch that up, clean that up, right? I said, okay, cool, you do your end. I do my end. Adam wants to do a pot.
Starting point is 01:04:16 At that point, we can sit down and have a conversation. Now, out of respect to you, right? I'm not going to tell you in this building. Yeah, set it up. He'd come in, we start locking up. Right. Then you're going to look at me like, whack, what kind of bullshit? We don't want to encourage that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:30 You get what I'm saying? So when I tell you, hold on, I got to, me and do, got to have a conversation. I'm not going to say, well, you're the one, boom, boom, boom, because in your mind, it's just conversation. It's just content. Some things with some individuals is deeper than content. And when you do and say certain things, right, it's going to bring a reaction. But we talk. I think it's a good dude.
Starting point is 01:04:57 He sounded like a real intelligent dude. Yeah, he's a smart guy. He told me, he said, whack, I'm going to go clean that up. I said, when I do my thing Thursday, I'm going to make sure I clean it up and tell the back and of the story. And then we had a conversation. Kind of awkward because him and suspect have this whole thing going on. But I definitely see the potential in him as a podcast host.
Starting point is 01:05:15 He's like a, he's going to attract a clean. their crowd. Right. Because that was one thing when I went and did the viral way in Long Beach, which everybody should go check that out. Me and Lush actually went down last Friday. And when we're on there, one of the criticisms that they threw my way in regards to no jumper is they said, we feel like, yeah, you got a lot of four extras, you get a lot of KripMax. Why not have somebody who's a representative of the culture and the community who's maybe a more respectable example of that? Maybe not everybody needs to be a gang member. And I said, I agree. with you, this group that
Starting point is 01:05:53 is no jumper, it kind of organically grows and shrinks and occasionally a limb gets cut off as time goes by. And I actually agree with that, Chris, so we do need more. But we do have, we have a flaco, we have a Remo, we have, you know, quite a few people.
Starting point is 01:06:08 See, I got to say this. Until whatever your formula is is working better than no jumper, you can't question no jumper's formula. I don't agree with that. I think anybody can be critical of somebody else's business model. or their past of characters, right? Flag could be critical.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Sure. Okay. Right. If what you're trying isn't working, you know what they're going to eventually do, change it up or quit. Right? So what we understand is the flow of traffic.
Starting point is 01:06:39 It don't always get everybody's attention. Right. The head-on collision, if you had a freeway, bro, that all people did was running to each other, you would have people with binoculars. watching that side of the freeway. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 01:06:55 In this world we live in, this environment, people want to see unorthodox shit. Right. And Crip Mac is very unorthodox. Brick Baby was very diverse and six-dimensional, right?
Starting point is 01:07:13 And then with me, you can get the bullshit, you can get the intelligence shit, you can get, I'm just a jack of a lot of trades, right, With you, you're the white guy who gives that perspective, but you've been around these brothers so long, you tap into how we do things, what we do,
Starting point is 01:07:32 and how we see things, and you're able to cross it up and make your shit a little funner when you want to, right? With them, I think I look at them as, like, the conscious rapper podcasting. And not to say that's a bad thing because a lot of our conscious rappers, they do very well for God
Starting point is 01:07:51 you know Kendrick can be considered at times Jay Cole I don't find the viral way to be anywhere near as obnoxious as most conscious rap so I do want to shoot them some bail on that Jay Cole is obnoxious No I would say Jay Cole and Kendrick are like
Starting point is 01:08:05 The ones who kind of like break through Pass that I didn't say battle rap I say conscious rap I'm just saying conscious rap I think conscious rap Common is a conscious rap Common is I was a common fan Common has some songs I liked
Starting point is 01:08:18 over the years Yeah. But for sure when people find that kind of that strain of hip-hop annoying, I get it. Let me tell you what was funny. When I watched them dealing with the Hispanics saying what they said, right? And now I said, oh, I said, oh, now that side of you starting to come out. See, when dealing with this, what works for you, you keep on working what works for you. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:45 I watched Compton Rick Rock over the last four. five years. Try skits. Try this. Dressing up. Acting like a dope fiend. Try the positive shit. Try, hey, we're all in the same gang shit. And now he found his niche of being funny. He got the comic commentator shit going on.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah. His content when you click on something, it actually is pretty professional. He's found his lane and now his numbers are growing. Right? He didn't give up because this is something he really wanted to do. So I'm curious to see. and I like the viral way. I think the brother's some cool dudes. I know they come from some real places. You know, I got a lot of comrades over there from their city.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And I like the direction they're going. We just got to see if the people overall are going to like it. I haven't really been monitoring their growth and what they're doing or not doing. R&B likes what's to do, Brandon. She said Brandon's a good addition. He's like he's a more fluent flock. but Flacco's been corrupt
Starting point is 01:09:51 by the shit he didn't try to attach yourself to but get away from. What do you mean? Because Flaco didn't have been around the Negro shit, the street shit a little bit. But what makes Flaco, flaco, although he's around the understanding that he has gained about the streets
Starting point is 01:10:09 makes it even funnier when he tells you I'm a cop caller. Right. Right? It's funny. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like funny.
Starting point is 01:10:18 He's like, yeah, because you know this, this, but you know me, I'm calling the cops. Right. So when Flacco does that, it kind of like, it enhances character. Right. Flacco real smart dude. He got a speech impediment and all that, but that, no, that's part. His delivery, it would make some, if Flacco start talking like Brandon, he wouldn't be shit. We'd be like, oh, you're boring.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Wait, speaking of Flacco, did you see this video? Okay, so first there was this photo of, of Lena and Flacco. And now, look at this. That's AI. Did you make it? I did not make it. I took that photo with them together and it popped up in the Reddit, like, right away.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'm going to send you that clip right now. Yeah. That was not real. But honestly, it looks so real that it kind of made me feel like, oh, shit. Like, my animal brain was kind of like, why are you making out with that fool? I say hi, bro. I know, but I'm just like, you know, my, my subconscious brain kind of felt like I was watching the real thing. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:11:32 What? What are you looking at? What is this? Oh, this is the cease and desist. You got sent the, the Gigi one? Yeah, this is. Loose Cannon's ex-wife, Gigi? Yeah, so this is her cease and desist.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Right? So at the time, that's why I believed it. Now, over months and months, I'm telling him, like, yo, bro, you need to, like, get it at least your adams so we know you didn't bring no bullshit to the platform. So he's telling me, it's coming, it's coming and coming. And he said, well, the dude said, I can't get it back until I get my drive back. I said, well, why would you send him your only drive?
Starting point is 01:12:13 He's like, well, now I can't come back until our contract is up, January, February. Contract is up. I'm like, yo, where's it at? Where's it at? Boom. fake beef deal about the clothes fake beef so I start seeing the pattern
Starting point is 01:12:28 this shit right but until Gigi told me what she told me today I really thought that Urban Flicks was service of ceasing desist from Big You he said he said you he said yo urban flicks he's got a ceasing assist too so when he told me that this right after you got
Starting point is 01:12:45 yours right once he told me that he knew he knew I was going to take it like it's him. I wasn't going to question. I don't know nothing about the Gigi at the time. Right. I don't know nothing about the depths of her and the shit she knows and she knows some
Starting point is 01:13:01 shit. The only Gigi I know is Alan. Right? And she knows some shit. She told me about the dude Jerry and I'm going to lead out one alone. Wait, so I heard through the rumor mill that 600 is working to potentially expose
Starting point is 01:13:18 what is this information and it apparently is not good for loose Canaan? I'm on that 600. That 600 content. Let 600 do his work. Should we call him?
Starting point is 01:13:26 You can call him? I want to know. Rima was kind of talking to me about it earlier, and I wasn't 100% sure what he was trying to get at exactly. Yeah, that's no, 600 going to do his work. Lovejoy. What do I have this number saved under? Okay, context.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Love, did I save him under 600? I guess I did. That's the number. You got it? Possibly. Maybe not. 600 mad as hell at me. Wait, let me call him in your phone then,
Starting point is 01:14:07 because I thought I had his number, but I guess... Six hundred, hot. He's mad at you. Because I would stop him from doing shit. Right, because this next one sounds pretty. Yeah, you know, it is what it is. Yo, 600. What's all with it?
Starting point is 01:14:22 It's Adam 22 in Wack. I heard that you're working on an expose about some impendent. legal issues that might be facing loose cannon. True or false? I heard through the grapevine that there might be a case that you are working on exposing
Starting point is 01:14:47 that involves loose cannon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you give me a preliminary briefing on what this is about? No, I mean, the thing is, man, it's like some defamation stuff. You know, I want to speak on it to everything is actually done with you know i got some very very nice pay the attorney and handling everything from me
Starting point is 01:15:11 so you know but real soon probably next week uh we'll hear from i i don't want to speak on it yet okay that's why that's why i didn't say nothing because it's his content whack said that he don't want to talk about it either okay well because i went to your channel i was looking for the youtube video about it i didn't see anything but uh a few people know about it No, I went to your channel looking for a video about it because somebody told me that you were working on something and I didn't see anything. So I assume it's still in the works. Let's see what I do is I give out a little signals at the end of my video. So you can't just look at the title or watch the beginning.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Oh, okay. People who told you about it, they're either watching my live or watching some of my long videos. Got it. Okay. Well, that sounds exciting. Yeah, it's good, man. I mean, you took Big U down, and I guess Lewis Cannon's next, huh?
Starting point is 01:16:09 You're gonna get, everybody getting 600 years. Yeah, why, why y'all say, like, well? As far as me taking Big U down, me and Wack took his name down. Whatever he got going on legally, me and Wack ain't got nothing to do with that. It says that ain't anybody. We ain't got nothing to do with that. He brought himself down before his name. His credibility is, we smashed that.
Starting point is 01:16:31 No, yeah. Saying you took him down is an exaggeration. You publicized what was going to happen a couple weeks before it actually happened. But loose can. He crossed the line. Damn. All right. Appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yo, so, yeah, you know, he used to be mad at me. And crazy is, I just like six take it down and I look up, lose going back at him. But, you know, I'm going to be real. Like, I really like, R&B got on me. She's like, hey, don't do all that because. you yourself call yourself helping him. If he want to do that, then let him do what he's going to do.
Starting point is 01:17:13 You know the shit he's talking about some bullshit anyway. A lot of shit you fed him was bullshit to see if it was going to come back. You know what your situation is. You know what the hell's going on with your business. So, right? Don't feed into it.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And then my business partner has called me and said, hey, he ain't got no voice for what we're doing. Let's take focus on what we're doing. Wait, who ain't got no voice? See, he ain't got no voice for what we're doing. You got to think about it. I'm literally, you never seen Danielson, Mr. Miyagi, fight with Danielson. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:52 So if I do that, right, I'm letting him know he qualified to step on the stage with me, which I was trying to build him to that, right? And he really don't qualify to step on the stage. So all I can do is sit back, let things happen. and people will read about it and see about it. And, you know, it's more than one way is a skin of cat. You know, some people can fight you on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:18:18 which fighting somebody on YouTube who you really don't fuck with. It really ain't fighting them, it's helping them. Right. Right. We know all that goat. And it's like, okay, if you have an op and that op is potentially going to get hit
Starting point is 01:18:31 with a bunch of really nasty charges that might take them off the street for a couple decades, yeah, you could reveal it in advance and get some social media. attention as a result. I don't need it. But also then everybody's going to be kind of talking about you, like the way that they've been talking about 600, which is basically calling them a Fed and a cop, whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:49 You can't call 600 no fan and no cop. Right. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but there's been a lot of people suggesting that regardless just because the optics are like, oh, big use telling the world that 600 and whack got them caught up. Even though it doesn't make any sense, there is some percentage of people that are going to hear that and be like, oh, shit, they got him caught up. Okay, but do you know what happened with him in court?
Starting point is 01:19:07 I heard a little bit about it. He, A, stood up in his last court hearing. And it's in his paperwork, a 26-pageer. Right. And said, on his way to turn himself in, he said the opponents, 600, WAC 100, are dealing with the feds and this all got something to do with them, right? Even then, he is manipulating and trying to bring harm to people because this is a lie. we had had no dealings with these men at all. And he knows that would put a target on their back, right?
Starting point is 01:19:43 That must have felt good. If what he was saying was true, then that AUSA, whatever they call them, wouldn't have said that, right? But if you read the documentation, the paperwork, there's nothing about any of his charges that have anything to do with us. Like 600 said, yeah, we took his name down.
Starting point is 01:20:05 We attacked his name. in a way it has never been attacked. Ever been attacked. I had somebody called me from the feds today. No, not from the feds. He's been to the feds. He's 23 years. I'm rolling 60s.
Starting point is 01:20:19 He said, whack. Everybody in the feds know about that grid paperwork. They want to see it. He said, part of his showing his paperwork is to show the breakdown of that grid paperwork. If it reads what I know I'm just reading, it's going to be a problem. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:37 So it's like, we got the word out there. And even right now, I'm curious to see what's going to happen. Man, that man, 58 years old. They're talking about he looking at 600 years. Ish. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, a lot of people have been suggesting that we might never see loose cannon back on the streets again, or at least they might end up doing 10 plus years
Starting point is 01:20:57 at the very least. I'm going to say this. From what I now know, don't count loose cannon out. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him back on the street this month. Are you saying that because you're suggesting that he's innocent or because you think that he's going to tell on somebody? Listen, I'm just telling you from what I know, don't be surprised if you see him or the street this month.
Starting point is 01:21:27 What we do know is this. Brick Baby's trial day got pushed back to October, right? That's crazy. Okay. We can go find a minute. it orders to everybody's case. We don't know when loose Canada's next court date is.
Starting point is 01:21:49 For whatever reason, I don't know. But don't count him out. I wouldn't be surprised if he's good and free the month of May. Really? Wow. I hope so. That'll be great. I've seen academics to the podcast with Gigi. Or not
Starting point is 01:22:05 podcast, but she called into the stream. Did you listen to it? Yeah, I listened to it. Well, now I went to sleep. Anything new exposed? I put them online together. Okay. Anything new exposed, do you think? Or is more of the same? Uh, Gigi got some shit over there, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:18 And about a week and a half ago, I was trying to be a brother to this dude and tell him, tell you a significant other to bag off of her. Gigi has some shit. You don't want them problems. Mm. Okay? And in so many words, let's just say you got a guy, right? That likes to record everything.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I know I got like that Okay And let's say this guy Calls itself Putting his player hand down, right? And he goes to the chick And say, yo, get me an iPhone And the chick says, okay, I'll go get you an iPhone
Starting point is 01:22:59 She gets to my iPhone And she gives it to him This guy takes his iPhone And he does what he does with it, right? Whatever he's doing whatever it may be he records it saves it whatever right
Starting point is 01:23:16 but let's just say this chick is a little slick and smart enough to tie your iPhone to her eye cloud right so everything you do where is it going she's got it on a computer
Starting point is 01:23:30 and whatnot as well and you can't claim is not hers because it's under her account mm-hmm GD shares some things with me some things I wish she wouldn't have shared. And I still say today,
Starting point is 01:23:46 tell your significant other to leave her alone. Because it's bad enough, you got the situation. Gigi's sitting on situations. If you pay attention to her little edits and see what she's putting in there, she's showing you one of the things she for sure has. So he should really bag up off of her.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And it ain't even, I would just stop talking about her if I was him. He doesn't know what she has because I don't think he knew that his phone was tied to her, her eye cloud on her account. But the math he can do is whatever you know, that you recorded and kept record of, she has it. Oh, wow. That could be bad.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Oh. Bad work. I mean, do you want to watch? People are texting me saying that this new video that they put out about you is definitely worth watching. Should we actually react to it right now? I don't get to put it up.
Starting point is 01:25:00 All right, here we go. All rights to the contents posted on this YouTube channel, including videos, images, and audio are reserved solely to the owner. Don't claim. me, Cherise. To hear the... Already got a recording. Okay, so at the end of the day, it's like a lot of people speaking on my name because they
Starting point is 01:25:23 know I'm in here. You know what I'm saying? I know damn sure with all the lives and stuff like that, they're coming out with, talking about the people and all that. Like, they can't find out one statement with me, right? And second of all, another thing is he gets mad because I ask him about CS2 back, right? Third thing is, I'd be mad if somebody got a bigger light than you. More poppy name, more vicious on the street.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You know what I'm saying? Like, but now I'm going to peel back every layer, every single layer about the goofy. You get what I'm saying? Like, you know you're a buster when you have to literally wait until somebody go to jail to a poppet. But when I was on the streets with them and I'm calling them all out for days and I'm going to beat them up and do this and do that. Nobody was saying anything. They was quiet. And when I go to coming to jail, they have the courage and I'm locked up.
Starting point is 01:26:32 That's some buster shit. You get what I'm saying? Then they want to attack a woman. my wife or whatever like that even if you were wrong you're going to always be right to me that's what a real man does because you are my wife we took bowels together so the goofiness they're talking about is all stems because he's mad because dirt don't with him you know what I'm saying I assume he's now
Starting point is 01:27:03 maybe talking about brick no he said dirk yeah dirt don't fuck with him I assume he's not talking about you. Why the hell would you care if Dirk didn't with you or whatever? That sounds more like he's talking about Brick. Dirk thing or whatever, like that, all the energy change. You know what I'm saying? Like Dirk never did an interview or anything like that with nobody. Since he's been locked up.
Starting point is 01:27:31 But me having that much power or whatever, and he's looking out and he's a good dude, he did it for me. You get what I'm saying? but I think that when we talk about stuff like that, they would try to lie and put smut on you and say all types of other things because they have really nothing to say. I mean, baby, you know, the thing about it is, right?
Starting point is 01:27:58 My interview and conversation with academics wasn't even pertaining that specific individual. And it just sucks that things got taken out of context. It sucks that things were taken in a negative way, opposed to a joke, because, you know, people can joke and do things, but others can't.
Starting point is 01:28:21 I just don't understand it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just, you know, I'm tired of the nonsense. It doesn't warrant a threat to where I lay my head or a threat to where my businesses are. It doesn't warrant none of that. Now, when we get there, then I'm sorry, all gloves are off now because it's like you you want people to respect you but you don't know how to
Starting point is 01:28:45 be respectful and i'm trying you know people saying to i need to stay in a woman's place i understand all of that but when you when you when you act you didn't do anything wrong and someone is just come at you stop that for a minute she don't think calling a man a bitch is doing something wrong because that's why you were annoyed with her in the first place she said i was a niggas mistress and then she said it was That ain't no motherfucking trolling. What the... I don't understand. First of all, you're on a platform that I opened up for you.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Let's start there. Right. And then you go on there for whatever reason. I don't know what the fuck I got to do with your conversation. And say, I'm his mistress. But for him to say, even if you wrong, you right? Nah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:35 If my woman's wrong, you're wrong. Yeah. We can't just baby women and act like they're just, they're in the right. matter what. If my girl says something wrong and he knows that too because when we were on the phone and she started talking shit, he told her, hey, be quiet. Not only that.
Starting point is 01:29:51 I told her 10, 15 times hey, listen, you're doing shit. It's disrespectful. You're going to start some shit. I told her this. I said, ain't nobody going to win. You got a fresh baby over there. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Your man ain't motherfucking Terminator. He like everybody else walking around here. Right? On any given day. Every dog have his day. This is a fact, right?
Starting point is 01:30:23 So I'm like, I don't understand why you keep picking and doing shit and saying shit. So for you to say, you can't find nowhere where I'm on the internet trolling his wife. Calling her motherfucking, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:39 Right. No, that ain't what I do. We don't got that. I don't got that kind of relationship with my woman to do that. She can call me bald. She's not going to call me a bitch. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:51 I don't care what he's saying. And all that tough acting overdoing the shit, I don't know what the Dirk is. He said he got power because he got dirt. Dirk got on the phone to talk academics. If that's power, cool him and academics. I'm pretty sure Dirk said his phone. This is his family.
Starting point is 01:31:07 You own it with that cool. where do I care that you got Dirk on the phone to, to, to, I mean, I know Dirk in real life. You know, bro, in jail. Like, why would I trip that? Like, I'm not, see, he got to understand the shit that he's trying to gain, been there, done, that gone. And it's there if I needed to utilize it just with a phone call, right? Yeah. I'm not, there's a whole lot I know about Dirk situation because I'm tired to people that's very close to Dirt.
Starting point is 01:31:37 but I don't get But again, this is what he's doing Before he went to jail When he tried to make up the fake problem Y'all caught it. Y'all like your bro, what did you? You know what I'm saying? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:31:49 Which, okay, in Trableau Ross's big you documentary Which I know that you watched Because you wanted something out of that. But that He basically put forth a narrative That Loose Cannon Was mad at you Not because of denying
Starting point is 01:32:05 That his house got swatted by the feds or whatever but because he felt like you and loose canner were getting too close to exposing something that was ultimately going to really have negative repercussions for him. Well, what Trappler-Ross don't understand, and it's crazy to understand it because I know he reads paperwork, he does these great documentaries. If you're reading the paperwork, right, you'll see where the two task force started. It was two task force, one specifically for rolling 60s. This is where you got all those other dudes in there that got.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Nothing to do a Big U, right? They part of the Rolling 60 task force, called niggas selling guns, selling, whatever they called them doing. Had nothing to do a Big U. And then you had the Big U Enterprise Task Force. So if Trap Law is really paying attention to what he's reading, you will see whenever investigation starts, it has to conclude, it has to end, right?
Starting point is 01:33:01 Now, all being 600 knew about was, the grid program and we thought it was some fraud shit going on. Right? Which I spoke on on here. He got pissed off at one of ex-NFL player, right?
Starting point is 01:33:19 But we didn't really know. He wasn't high in that because he was telling people around the neighborhood he might have to go do three, four years. Biggie he wasn't even hiding that. Right? None of us knew nothing about the Taco Lady the murder.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Now, Brick had mentioned it, but we didn't know what he was talking about. A body in Vegas. We don't know what you're talking about. And the extortion. I don't even think, now, Big, you knew about the Taco Lady. It's in the paperwork.
Starting point is 01:33:51 He knew about the murder. It's in the paperwork that came and served a warrant to draw his blood and, you know, his wife is calling and he's calling. He knew about whatever fraudulent charges he had coming on. I don't think he knew about the extortion because it says up until March 14, 15th,
Starting point is 01:34:11 he was still collecting the extortion money. Right? So again, we don't know about the full scope. We don't know that it's a rolling 60 task force and a big U. The closest we do about a big U, Rico, is Brick baby,
Starting point is 01:34:30 telling us telling 600 it's in June, what you've been hearing me say for a while now, right? So for him to say, and I don't believe Luce knew. When you're reading the paperwork, out of all the guys in there, he's the only one, only a part of one situation. The other guys are intertwined in the club shit, the extortion shit, this, that, this, this, this, that. I don't think he knew about the other stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:59 So for Trap Lord to say, I think Luce was getting, nervous about, he's not going to get nervous about something that even he don't know is coming. Now, from stories he's told me, which I don't know if it's true or not, he did say he was arrested, 24 sometime, right? Which me and 600 didn't believe because when we called his significant other, or she told us, I'm like, all right, what's his information? So she gives us to information. So I had a team go search to see where he at. We figured he got a bell. We don't know, allegedly it's to feds. We have no idea. She just said he pulled up in a gas station,
Starting point is 01:35:44 it raided, snatched him, searched the car, tore the car up, and boom, right? So I'm like, damn, we can't find him nowhere. I wait a hour or two. Can't find him. 600 said, me, give me that information. Let me send it to his brother. His brother was out. Six hundred know his brother. I all he never met his brother. He said, hey, bro, is this loose real information? He says, hell no, that ain't his real date of birth. That ain't how he spelled his name, and that's not his ID number.
Starting point is 01:36:11 His brother knows Luce's ID number by heart. So he gives us all the real shit. We run it. Still nothing come up. Now, this happens a day before some Benin's supposed to close out. It's like one in the earlier times it started happening before I caught on. Next morning, we get a call. right she's allegedly driving back to Vegas
Starting point is 01:36:36 whatever whatever we get a car 9 o'clock the next morning they just let loose out he's out I said where he at San Diego I said San Diego I thought the nigga got arrested in L.A yeah the feds took him to San Diego Fas took him to San Diego right I said all right but shit I'm gonna send him a black car
Starting point is 01:36:58 she said no his partner going to drive from Riverside to come get him I said that don't make sense. That's a hundred-yard run to come down and go up. He can already be up. Right? He said, no, no, no. He said his homies already on the way. I don't think nothing of it. I'm telling myself, check the system.
Starting point is 01:37:19 So we go check San Diego, right? Nothing's there. So now let's fast forward to now. Everybody arrested. When he gets on the phone with me, he tells me it's about a dispensary big you telling
Starting point is 01:37:37 that's what he tell me it's a dispensary big you telling he's like yeah man some shit I brought out of dispensary big you telling what we mentioned monster at the time I'm not putting monster together with Dale right so I'm like oh okay cool we get to October
Starting point is 01:37:55 he calls me on the phone with Dale him and Dale was talking he's trying to get Dale to say Big U toll on him Dale say Now at the time We don't know
Starting point is 01:38:08 The Dale was victim What Dale wired We don't know Right And it was crazy Them phone calls I'm pretty sure they got Because Dale's on his phone
Starting point is 01:38:17 Lou say Wack get the content I'm just listening So they're talking about The whole or deal So I'm like I'm listening Listen and listening
Starting point is 01:38:29 Boom March comes This is when the shit gets weird. If the feds pick you up in Los Angeles, they're not going to drive you to the motherfucker of San Diego to talk about the case.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Over two hours. To talk about a case, 120, 120, 140 miles. To talk about a case that's obviously, LA base. Why? Because everybody that got picked up in March
Starting point is 01:38:57 went to MDC, L.A. Nobody went to, San Diego. Right. So now I'm sitting back and I'm saying what we couldn't find you nowhere in the system. I heard you on the phone with this dude talking freely about all kind of shit. And I'm
Starting point is 01:39:16 thinking, now that we're looking at the paperwork, the police really got it. They got everything because what you all was talking about on that phone is everything. And if Dale was still wired, giving big you federal extortion money,
Starting point is 01:39:35 then it's phone damn show wired on wherever he's calling. Right? So now the things I do know, when I keep hearing, I'm about to get out, I'm going to get out, even though you're getting multiple denials, right, based upon pending cases and this, this, dad, and other shit are particularly going to pop up. And the conversation I know you had with victim one,
Starting point is 01:40:01 who you in fact are in there for, the death you went in, the things you said, the things you said about Big You, who you were the Big You, on this man's phone to this man, there's no way, bro, that can happen. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:22 When we're done, I'm going to let you hear. It's no way possible. But the call I got a week and a half ago about what motherfucka-wanted, wanted it, you know, we're going to kick it off a little bit. I get a call from his significant other
Starting point is 01:40:39 saying, he said, Big U trying to pin a murder on him. I said, what? He said, yeah, he said something about Money Mike. I said, I ain't got nothing to do a loose cannon. Yeah, who's money, Mike? This dude that got trying to lie, right?
Starting point is 01:40:55 I said, that has nothing to do with Lose Cannon. Uh-huh. Why would Big U do that? Right? She said, I don't know, but he says you may have access to a video that can help him show it wasn't him, right? I said, I think I know somebody that may have that video. Let me make a call, right? So I make the call.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I get the video. I'm not thinking nothing of it. I sent it over to it, right? Because in my head, I'm like, damn, that's fucked up. Big you feeling like pin something on this dude. it ain't him. So two, three days go by, I asked her. I said, hey, did they try to pin the murder on loose?
Starting point is 01:41:43 And I said, well, how did he, how did, how did Big U tell him this? She says, well, they was down there to get their blood drawn and ran into each other. And Big U said, that's why I'm going to put money Mike's body on you, right? Something like, that don't even make sense. So two, three days go buy another two through days. I said, yo, did they charge him with it? And she says, no, not yet. And then after that, I started to hear, I'm about to get out.
Starting point is 01:42:16 That's where the red flag was waived. I'm like, you're about to get out. So you're suggesting. Hey, bro, when it comes to the feds, it's only one thing, make a move. bodies. Right. Right. So they can't make a move.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Well, they pursue other crimes as well. No, no. Not much. You're talking about, no, you want to get out, shit, it's bodies. So now...
Starting point is 01:42:44 Okay, now we're good. Yeah. Look. That's the video. You can present if you want to you'll see what's on it. Yeah, you're going to see it. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Looks like a carjacking? No, bullshit. Pay attention. A murder. So on the live, right? Yeah. Now, this video, this ain't no
Starting point is 01:43:12 motherfucking, uh... That was this Mike. Yeah, that's money Mike that got on the live, right? So this video has been floating, right? So nobody in there is loose. So if you look, watch it. I'm going to show you the word. So if you look at it, you're going to read it.
Starting point is 01:43:29 You'll read while I sent it. Go top on the bottom. I sent it. Right? You see, I don't know why I bet you were doing like that. Look at what she's telling me. She threw me out when she asked what I testified. Like, hold on.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Pump the brakes. I wasn't there for that. This video been floating. Shit, it ain't nothing exclusive. But so you're not saying that loose can and took care of this dude. No. You're saying that. Luce had nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 01:44:06 People are trying to put this on it. No. Big use. No, he said that. Okay. He had this girl called me a week and some ago and tell me, whoa, you look at it. You're reading the shit.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Yeah, it's a little complicated, but... No, it ain't. Makes no sense. That wasn't nobody from 60s did that. I hope shit's solid. It makes no sense. That's what I'm saying. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:44:30 No idea. When he calls, I'll call you back. Uh-huh. I said, unless old boy playing dirty, right? she said who I said useless because she's telling me big you know loose said big you say he's going to put that on him right you see what she says yeah she said this just keeps getting worse and worse do you think he's trying to what set up canon right I said ain't no telling and then she hits me with that whopper if it comes down to it are you willing to make a statement to vouch for that I'm going
Starting point is 01:45:08 to mention this to the attorney or if you can is there someone else that can this is just so wild, whoever did this in the video, did they ever get caught? Right? I tell her, from what my understanding is, it's an open, it's an open case, a cold case. Right? So I'm sitting there saying, damn, that's
Starting point is 01:45:26 fucked up. Why would, dude, put that on loose? Like, now I'm concerned. I'm like, yeah, I went and made a couple calls. I said, yo, you remember that video? I was floating around. And like, yeah, I got it. They sent it. I sent it over here to her. So after a couple days, three, four days, go by it. I'm like, yo, did they charge him? You know,
Starting point is 01:45:44 the exposes is on the thing, checking the system. Ain't no murder popping up. And then a couple days after that, he starts saying, I'm going to be home soon. So now I'm scratching my head like, well,
Starting point is 01:46:01 the judge denied your bind. In the court, they said they're about to bring other charges on top of what was denying your bind. She calls me and tells me you said big you trying to put this on you. do you have that video? Can you get it for him?
Starting point is 01:46:18 I get it. You see she's sending it to the attorney. Okay. So now I'm like, okay, well, did they charge you with it? Did they charge you with it? No. So now only big you would know if he has said, I'm going to put this case on you,
Starting point is 01:46:35 which doesn't make sense is going back to the lying shit that we used to hear the manipulation, right? So now I've got to ask myself, why else would you want that video to that unsolved case? And then what would motivate you to start saying, although you don't have a court date, that you're about to get out? So you think he might be working? No, I'm just saying it just, when you do the math, you know, 600 is doing this due diligence because, again, I had to call around to find this.
Starting point is 01:47:10 He just knew I could call around and find it. She didn't exclusive. It was floating when it happened. if I tell you if I tell you Adam hey bro you got that they're trying to hit me with a case and you look up and see
Starting point is 01:47:25 I never get the case but I'm in a situation when I'm not supposed to be out and I end up and I'm out you're going to scratch your head about that and one thing we understand about the fed is that if you want any favor from them
Starting point is 01:47:41 give them a body you gotta come with them bodies I don't believe personally, I could be wrong, that he ran in the Big U by giving blood and Big U screamed out. I'm going to put Money Mike's murder on you. I don't believe that. That seems unlikely. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Big U, if he was planning on doing that, we're for sure keep it close to his chest, right? Yeah, because. What's the point of letting him know what you're all game playing? Not only that, you have to, like, when you're doing that, if you get a fairs or wrong information, that don't work. for you, that work against you. Right. And Luce ain't had nothing to do with that shit at all, like nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 01:48:22 So when she hit me, I'm like, wait, what? Like, yeah, he's trying to put this on him. And he said you could go find a video to get it to the attorney to help clearing. So you don't have a phone while you're in jail. So how else are you going to get a digital asset to the investigators besides through the attorney? Right. So I make some calls, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:48:43 You remember that video? Like, yeah, we got it. they sent it, I sent it over to them. Now I'm in a position of being concerned. So I'm thinking, I said, damn, this is fucking up. I mean, if they just go with a murder, this shit getting worse and worse. After three, four days go by and I'm asking, I'm like, yo, did they, no, she got to like dummying up on me and shit?
Starting point is 01:48:59 Like, damn, okay. And then I started, I said, yo, how did he run into him? They're not in the same. I said, they're not even in the same area. Like, let's knock that shit off. How did he run into him for him to say that to him? Oh, he was going to get his blood drawn. and they ran into each other.
Starting point is 01:49:16 I don't know. Maybe they did. Maybe it didn't make sense. But nevertheless, when they both start saying he's about to get out soon, I'm asking myself how. There hasn't been a change in this situation. Actually, they're saying they're coming with another case. Eddie boy called Jay Reid, and Jay Reid told him he did give a statement.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Right. And the other dude gave a statement too. So now at that point, it came up in his court that we do have statements and charges will be pressed for that, right? So this is another reason why they said we don't want to let him go. So for you to start saying five, six days after this been given to you based upon trying to assist you and proving your innocence, all of a sudden you coming home, I mean, I'm just doing the math.
Starting point is 01:50:16 You know what I'm saying? I mean, now, he's still in there. So at this point in time, we can't say it. But if he was to just pop up, yeah, it's going to be a mystery. And I know what's on my phone. I know what the text say. And there's more to that. He probably don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:37 She's texting me some shit. And I do know, respectfully, a lot of shit. She don't know what not to do. She does it on a. innocent side. But, like, bro, I'm calling the spade of space. So I had already made my decision that I was, distance had to be put between.
Starting point is 01:50:56 You notice he can't, he can't call me directly. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? You don't pick up or he just doesn't try? I'm not registered. I think you got to like kind of do something. But I don't want to do that. If, you know, if she calls me, she calls me.
Starting point is 01:51:14 He happened to be on the phone. Right. Cool. We had a conversation. This is why I really wasn't into doing that, doing that. Because my legal, who I've consulted, has advised me that they've looked into a few things and they said it's not a lot we want to say to you, but we will say to you as our client to put some distance between you and that situation.
Starting point is 01:51:40 And then Gigi hit me with some other shit the other day. and then Molly Mall hit me with some other shit and they ain't talked to each other in five, six years and the thing they hit me with scared the shit out of me not because I got some things to worry about but because the clothing that these motherfuckin' wolf and wolves is in is crazy. You know, it's a...
Starting point is 01:52:06 You think you're going to get charged with the alley fight as well? Well, from what they said in court, yes. Right. from what Eddie Boy says, the conversation he had, you know, with Jay Reid, he's saying that gay statements, you know what I'm saying, on him. And from what Travis Ford told me, Jay Reid's phone records is dangerous. Really?
Starting point is 01:52:42 Now, I'm just going to show you something. Don't even say nothing. Just read that white text to yourself. Yeah, don't say shit. You can hit the video if you won't and you can see the interaction. So you understand who she's saying that is, right? And he's just hanging out playing dominole's with this guy.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Listen, Molly Maul calls and tells me, hey, bro, I got love for you. I was hanging with the dude. Boom, boom, boom, bam. I didn't believe it. once he heard certain people on the internet, he said, you don't believe me. Hit her up, see if she gonna keep it real.
Starting point is 01:53:31 And you see what she sent me. Yeah. Right? So this is after, right? So this is after, I'm like, all the other shit I just told you just happened. And they hit me with that. And I'm looking at that.
Starting point is 01:53:42 I'm looking at the video. I'm looking at who that is. Hey, listen, bro. Hey, look, bro. He's right. He win. I don't want no problems, my nigga. I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Wow. now Adam I ain't capping You reading this shit You're looking at this shit I mean why would Gigi lie Listen Gigi got the work
Starting point is 01:54:03 Gigi and Molly in two different places Right And for him to tell me I'm like come on bro He's like bro Oh girl been on the internet If you're talking to her Ask her watch what she tell you
Starting point is 01:54:14 He tried to With him And I declined it I asked her she's like Yeah he did And he declined it So Molly straight on that. That's why when they say what they're saying,
Starting point is 01:54:28 bro, you know what I'm saying? So it's a lot. He don't know. That's why. Look, this shit is coming from her mother fucking. Well, his motherfuckin' eye cloud, bro. Like, he, he ain't got no one. He said you whatever she got off the eye cloud? Bro, like, that's got to be some bombshell shit. Listen, she sent me everything to show. They, in fact, were super tight.
Starting point is 01:54:53 That's Gigi. Pay attention to it. She's sending me everything to show like, yo, this is what that was. So this is Gigi and Molly Mall hanging out. Why? It looks like a while ago. No. That's all of them, right?
Starting point is 01:55:06 But watch this. Let me show you what else she said to me. Happier times. Everybody's smiling. Yeah, listen. Listen, let me show you what else. She said, you're going to run into some shit. You see some things that we use to do transactions.
Starting point is 01:55:24 See, all these things is in her. cloud. Amongst other things. Okay. She ain't playing, bro. She said, whack, this is like a grain of sand, but I'm just going to let you know I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:55:40 But that shit he's talking about, here he go. This is what he looked like. Boom, boom, boom, boom. At that point, I'm cool. He got that, bro. Listen, world. Lose Cannon 1.
Starting point is 01:55:49 I'm cool. Yeah, we are cool. Yo, I'm cool. She's, you feel what I'm saying? It's not an enemy you want to have. Nah. You got that, homie. Damn.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah. My whole world just got rocked. Yeah, because I'm showing you. The eagle eyes out there can put it together. Hey, listen, I'll get fuck. Who put it together? I'm cool. I'm sure that 600 will be having a field.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I'm sure he probably will too. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go put my kid to bed. Another great episode. What's up? Is that a New York shirt? Because they say bloody.
Starting point is 01:56:22 No, this is my friend. Jesse from MTV Jesse formerly of the the knellke boys he's the other guy who's got the bloody Sunday clothing line which your homie also has got you got you got you no I got glad
Starting point is 01:56:38 you wanted me to mention it I'll tell you all care all right what the info about did he call you about Aaron yeah did he call you he told me he pissed yeah did he tell you what I gave him I show you all the work he don't want to talk about it because that has slowly been being rumored.
Starting point is 01:56:55 You know, the exposes got to, we got a... Oh, don't do Aaron. I ain't did nothing, but that was crazy. But listen, you know, Vlad's going to cover it itself. We can't blow bros. Shut the fuck. No way.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Some of us, we shut up for it. You get what those? Hey, listen, why shit? Yo, yo, did he send you what he... Oh, my God. All he told me was about him getting flown out and then not appearing on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:57:22 It did? Listen. And then he wakes up this morning to this. Yeah. Oh. That's him asking for help is in reference to that. Yeah. Well, listen.
Starting point is 01:57:32 But then I looked out for the homie. I shot him to get out. You know, I gave it to him. Yeah, you know, we. This is him talking. Oh. Oh. You know, we're exposing.
Starting point is 01:57:48 We keep shit over here. Man, I hate to see a good plumber. I'm telling you right now. I did not want to have this conversation today about And I'm telling you as a brother, I'm not talking about him no boy. Okay. I'm cool. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:58:01 You see why I'm cool. Mm. You get what I'm saying? Everybody working. You're a white boy to see why I'm cool. I'm cool. And look, Luce, you got it. You're working.
Starting point is 01:58:11 You know, loose, you got it. You win. I'm not like that. I put it on my story. You didn't see it? I put it on my story, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? I admit it because he said I wasn't like.
Starting point is 01:58:25 like that. Okay. And it's on my story right here. I said, you're right. I don't do nothing to nobody. Nope, not me. And I'm not like that.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Loose, you won, bro. I don't, you got some different pieces on your chestboard, and I'm not prepared to deal with that. God damn. Man, Vlad's going to have a field day. Oh, yeah. That's, Vlad loves to get petty.
Starting point is 01:58:53 Yeah. You know how I go. But listen, this is the Adam and Wax Show episode 91 or 90. Hey, p, pow, pow, p, pown. Hey, we got to start thinking now about what we're going to do for episode 100, in particular because you are. 100. We got to think of something extra special.
Starting point is 01:59:12 That's for sure. I don't know. Shout out to everybody. Shout out to the love of my life, R&B. Listen, shout out to the hundred side. Shout out to the love of my life, R&B. You know what I'm saying? Hey, listen, though.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Shut out, third. Hey, bro. Not the love of my life. Can I ask you something? But I do have love for him. How much is this old content, a new content I keep seeing of your queen and the black dude? Oh, well, we have an important announcement coming soon, so.
Starting point is 01:59:37 I keep seeing new. I'm like, is this old shit she just posted? Get your jergins ready. I'm cool, bro. I look at Lynn. I look at her as a sister. I'm cool, bro. Yeah, you should not think about your sister that way.
Starting point is 01:59:47 You want to hit mine. Dead homies. Yep. Red homies. Let's go. Adam and Wack. like, comment and subscribe. We'll be back next week.
Starting point is 01:59:57 We out.

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