No Jumper - Maxo Kream on Quitting Lean, The Gay Crip, Crip Mac's Forehead Tattoo & More

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

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No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. I don't know. It's probably like the third time that we did an official sit down. My third time. Yeah. And I mean, I had Maxo Cream on this in 2016, maybe 2015. 16, Ronette.

Way back. The first one back when the Rapids was on here. Yeah. We're not a hip-hop platform anymore. Hell, yeah. Watch this shit. Oh, okay, good, good. How you live?

Maxo Cream. What's up, man? Two Celsius is in front of them. A blunt. All along. A blunt rolled. that's that Texas tea that's my strain Texas tea

shot my boy LB that's some Blanco just case you ask me a question I don't want to answer I get drunk I might answer come back to it Came with a whole bottle of tequila over here I saw that from you

Really? That's ours? Why don't got Why don't got Um Naho What's the other one? Repasito

Why y'all got no ripping here? Who drinking Blanco What is that? That's the type of tequila? Yeah yeah This is that freaky ass This shit takes like hand sanitize him Really?

Yeah I'm not like a tequila connoisseur so I couldn't really tell you all that much. Yeah, I saw sipping lean, man. I'd be on a tequila now and it takes his tea. Did you really? How long ago you stopped drinking lean? My partner just had a cup in the car.

I hit it, but I don't buy lean. I got this right here to replace it. Oh, wow. So that's your move now. Yeah, I cut off the wood, piece by piece, put it in that motherfucker like. Wait, do you seriously? You cut chunk?

Yeah. Who guys said? I don't need scissors. I'm from screw. I was thinking that when I looked at it. I'm like, it doesn't look like it's not like a big chunk of weed in there. So you take the wood and you put in that motherfuck like that and smoke. That's how I smoke.

Wait a minute. I was a smoker sometimes though holding the glass. No, for sure. You're fucked up for even conceiving of this. Who put you on to this? Me? So back when I was first like, like first selling rich, he was easing the muck. But I was selling a drill my mama house. And I didn't want to smoke on my

droop. I'm like, how can I reserve it? So I put a little piece in the bong and hit it. I'm like, God, damn. I've been addicted to the bong every since then. Wow. It just hits better than the blunt. Yeah, right? See, look, I took this little piece, right? Yeah. Put them up, you know?

You got to clear this whole, though. And I smoke bigger bombs. I really smoked big ones, but I brought this. I'm like, you know, this is going to be the no jump. You brought it on the road? Hell yeah, you want to put it on side B. You know what I'm saying? Maxo Bong, you know?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good part of history right there. What the fuck? Do you think this is a Texas thing at all? No, nobody smoked like this. They called me the white black boy. All right, because when I went to, when I went to South by Southwest in, I think, 2015 or 2016, probably, I think I actually seen you perform.

out there back then. But when I was there, I was staying in my boy, Charlie Crummish's house, and we were taking the bong, and we would put, like, a little bit of weed and a bunch of tobacco in there at the same time in the bong and hit that, and they called it a mole, and it would just give you the gnarliest head rush, and you'd be, like, about to pass out soon after you hit it. But we were doing that the whole time I was there, and it was a punishing experience. And she gets you paranoid, like, you'll be thinking something, you'll hit that my ass. Now, I'm chilling. Yeah, it's crazy how taking in the same shit, but through a different mechanism can

completely change the way that it feels. Like, look, like, I don't say Adirah is the methamphetamine. It's different between popping atiral and smoking. Like, you know, we do it different, you know what I'm saying? Right. Okay, because we're getting way out into outer space here. But you know how they always say, like, that they had racist guidelines for how they punished crack users versus Coke users back in the day?

Now I believe it's different. Now I believe it's more equal. But, I mean, when you think about it, most of the Coke heads that you know, I just kind of like going to parties, doing coke, going to the bar, whatever. And most of the crackheads that you know, realistically, they're trying to steal somebody's TV. So should we be taking into account the likelihood of committing crimes in terms of like how badly drugs are sentenced? Because it does seem like if crackheads are like really doing all this crazy shit and most cokeheads seem like they got it under control, maybe those laws are not so even. They shouldn't have no laws on drugs.

You got rape and pedophiles and all kinds of shit. They be getting out early probation like a motherfucker, but then they go to jail, you know what I'm saying, for like some little dope. Look, this is how I said. People that use cocaine, like party use and sip drink, those are exclusive drugs. Don't penalize them folks.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't going to say, you shouldn't penalize nobody. I ain't going to say no 12 ass shit. But you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying like, if you're going to do that. Because the thing about it, a person that snored coke probably be in the PDD party turned up.

and they put somebody smoking crack and busting windows right somebody sipping lean probably got Cuban link song a Lambo truck and some mosh and somebody's up hearing there's on some other shit you feel me okay but let's say that your life went in the direction where you just kept drinking lean you're a heavy lean drinker yeah and then one day you find yourself just dead broke and just the likelihood of you spending a couple hundred dollars on an ounce of lien is just not happening you're probably going to end up smoking perks under a bridge you're probably going to end up with a fent pack right it depends on me because it's not like you're gonna want to stop getting up you're just gonna go to a sibling Lee and stop though I can't for me

I can stop doing right no I'm saying but a lot of people I feel like that lean addiction is just gonna turn into a heroin addiction or a fentanyl addiction or whatever right I mean lean man probably but it's more likely if you do perks right you're gonna start smoking the rocks is it like that's certainly I've seen that's crazy right you know what I'm saying but you know what they say if you snore the line you're smoking now so the same thing with you know I'm saying people snoring the cold, but teach his on turn up have fun. But I remember being on my business.

The first time I interviewed Shoreline Mafia and I asked O'Gee, I'm like, how do you feel about parents or whatever who would say that you're kind of like turning kids on to Lean or like you're making kids want to drink Lean? And he just goes, good luck. Like, for real, like Lean is so hard to get that realistically, and it's so expensive that you kind of don't have to worry about your average kid getting into it, right? Y'all fucked it up. That's some Texas shit.

You know, back in the day, we used to call Lean Texas Tea, which is my motherfuck brand right son of peck made sure y'all get this in the dispensress but yeah it was texas t then it started getting the bills you can't blame oh jes you got like me yeah dash car the whole fettie movement you got mother fucking loane dj screw everybody like you know what i'm saying it's something dude that's like smoking weed who you're gonna blame dr jay how much you were spending for lean back in the day josh how much i'll spend on about two pints a week what's up josh how you're doing kcc josh yeah but um yeah yeah like I say like early days back when lines was like $50 probably like about two pines

but like 2,000 like so like a thousand each but then they got to a point where I was buying like two and a half three pints you know what I'm saying in a week they was going to anywhere between 25 and three but you came in kind of on the tail end of that shit too though because I remember like ben baller for instance just showing me pictures from back in the day with him just having like absolute like stacks of activists like to the ceiling and he said that the bottles with for like $100 at that time. Thanks, but, yeah, he did that, but I think I got the most infamous picture of me sitting down

with the trash bag full of act paints. I probably had like 36 act paints on me, for real, for real. What was the story of that day? Drink. Just a whole lot of drink. Right. Because I remember when we went on tour in about 2018, I believe, me, you, Trill Sammy.

It was pretty crazy. I was on the tour for whatever reason. I remember, like, observing your lifestyle and just slowly kind of starting to realize, Oh man, this guy, he might kind of have a problem because you were getting loaded on that tour. Nah, for sure. I was hiding the money. But you were, you were like handling it.

Like, you're definitely a G-about. It's not like you're falling out and shit. But that was just times where I kind of started to realize, like, how much different stuff was going into your body. And I was like, oh, yeah, he might not be in a healthy place right now. Nah, back in the day, I used to be on. Lean Adderall, lean Molly, lean Zanz, shit like that. But now if you look now, I'm in the gym, healthy. Really?

Working night, but I lost away. You ain't tell a little. No, yeah, you look good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, okay, you're right. I ain't seen you in real life in a couple of years, but I see online all the time. So, like I said, I didn't notice. Yeah, yeah.

But so, okay, what, what, you're still hitting the blunts in the bong somehow. The craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. What else? The liquor's gone? I drink occasionally. Like when I go to the club and I might have, like, a drink, but I ain't just waking up. I know got there 40 ounce.

Okay. No shit like that. You know what I'm saying? I'd be like a little 42 in the house, something like that, but I ain't just drinking every day like that. Right. Just the idea of waking up and drinking a 40 hurts my stomach. Weed and water.

Yeah. And you actually stay in the gym too? Hell yeah. How often? How many days a week? Mondays I do upper body. Uh-huh. Then Tuesdays I do legs and upper body.

I try to do upper body like three to four times a week. And you have a trainer? Hell yeah. How did you find him? Uh, dude Toby. You seen Toby recently? No. Where the hell's Toby?

Man, that nigga's son, well, he probably pulled him up, but shit. Really? Hell yeah, he ain't got, like, he was getting in the gym and shit like that. So all that, I just started getting in the gym. Plus, when my brother died, you know what I'm saying? Like, my dude, he was real on, like some gym. I ain't give a damn about that shit. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't needed to get no bitches. Yeah, because you're the rapper and you're getting to get bitches either way. But all the normal people have to be in shape and shit. If you have a six-pack, that brings you, like, as close to being able to get bitches like a rapper without being a rapper. My girls aren't one on any one. You don't think? Nah, they be telling me, don't lose weight. Like, ooh, like, you know what I said?

Don't lose your belly. Like, I don't know. I'd be like, bad niggas, we're taking over. Look at Rawaway, me, goddamn, Mexican O.T. There's some truth to that. But at the same time, think about how many girls you don't even end up talking to because they're just thinking about how they want hot, chiseled men. I can still get, once I was springing this for son on is over with.

Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. I've been going my whole life, just kind of getting by being a fag guy, and I was just like he'd struggling to just get more into the, like, in shape level. Could you ever see yourself like fully ripped bodybuilder status? Give me to the summertime, you would see. Really?

I've been in there like, yeah, I like lifting. It's like competitive, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Then I've been in there with my niggins, so we were trying to see who's stronger. Right. You know what I'm saying, motivate each other. You are getting to the age where it wouldn't be unreasonable for you to get on testosterone,

and then you could look like a fucking monster. I don't want to take nothing extra. You know, I'm Nigerian. I got it. You are Nigerian, huh? Nah, yeah. You know what tribe? Yeah, I'm Igbo.

Okay. I don't really know any of them, but whenever I mean a Nigerian person, I'm like, what's up? Nah, but show you guys sound like you educated. Like, you know something. You know, I went to Cape Town before, but I don't know if I'm ready for Nigeria. It's going down. Yeah? It's going down.

I don't know what y'all think. Ain't know them lying tigers and bears and shit like that. I mean, you go in the woods. Yeah, but it's a city is beautiful. I'm just watching. Afro beats is number one. You know what I'm saying everywhere? Shout my boy, burner boy.

You know what I'm saying? You're about to become an Afro beat artist? I got some Afro beat shit. Really, really? Hell yeah, I got some shit like that. How'd you get into that mentality? Who gave you that idea? Shit, Burn a boy.

I was with him. We just went to Jamaica when they, he shot the Taliban's video with Barra Maasad, the remix. Yeah, I was out. I'm in the video and shit, but I was out there with him just tugging. Then I'm like, yeah, let me get back to my roots. Because I feel like I'm versatile.

They ain't nothing I can do. Yeah, I mean, that's one weird thing about you. Like, how the fuck do you make all these fans people love you? Like, Burner Boy, like you've always been like that. Like, Uzi just meets you and it's just boom. He just loves you. Who else? Like Tyler.

Tyler, just for some reason, just looking at you like you're just the guy who's, he just wants that energy. Nah, facts, facts. But where the burner boy would come from? That's kind of random. Man, just being Nigerian. You know what I'm saying? Just being Nigerian. Then, like, I told him, like, because my mom, she's American.

My daddy, he's Nigerian. So, like, you know, just get to my coaching more. I ain't really messing my Nigerian side because when my daddy was catching his cases, my aunt snitched on him. But then my aunt, daughter called me, like, she didn't snitch. And woo, woo, we was going to sue you for, um, what is called? like defamation or something like that. I didn't know it was some bullshit. You know what I'm saying?

I don't really want to get into it, but yeah. Wow, that's crazy. Okay. So how's life like that besides, you know, we've determined that you're getting in shape. What else is going on in the life of Max O Cream? Like, you've been moving around and traveling, or you've been kind of posted in the crib?

Man, I've been, I got Saturday on a strip club. Really? Air 29. Yeah. Turner. That's the best club, and he used to not being that much. But I've been in the studio. So I've been working, working on my next tape.

I just did Camp Longnog Yesterday Crazy, rocked them up Right Rocked that's what I do That rock crowds How the fuck is there another artist Name Maxo on the bill

You see him Right above you too They put him one line above you on the bill And I'm like Now he was not one line He went on this So look I don't miss it a motherfucker

You can go look Look You go look Look yeah go look Because he went on Saturday At like noon And I went on God damn Sunday At like three

But y' y'all really see He's gonna be two But yeah You know, I got pop, yeah, like at three something. To be fair, I went and I listened to one of his songs just to see who this guy was. And he does have, like, he might not know who Max O'Creme is because he's like a total nerd rap. I read it to his manager or whatever, but he was a producer, though. I heard not bro putting in work.

I've been hearing his name. Okay. But it's like, you got Fredo Bang, Fredo Santana, Bankro, Freddy Chaboardie. I ain't worry about no name. My streams and shit do what they do regardless. That's true. And it is Cream Click. Right. You know that.

No, it's big persona now. Oh, okay. Which is the brand, too. While we're done with Cream Click, that's too street related? Nah, I mean, shit. Yeah, it's for the, because this ain't no damn street shit. I got it, you know, R.P. Fredo. I got there on the back.

Oh, shit. We really started that shit together. Me, him, cable boy, and my brother Madoo. Right. And when Madu passed, that's when I started pushing the persona shit most seriously. With the clothing brand, I got to collab with Duncy. You know what I said? We got the new era hats.

All that. I've seen you doing the pop-ups and the meet and greets and all that kind of shit and just having crazy-ass lines and stuff. The communities behind you, you feel like? Hell, yeah, but they don't just be, yeah, like in Houston, for shit show, they pique with us. You know what I'm saying? B pulled up, he was like, shit, the persona line looked like Trillburgers. Yeah, I see him.

B. came through. That's a good show of support. But, yeah, but even, like, have my show is, like, I still maxo cream merchant. I was like, I'm going to bring the brand because they'd be wanting the brand. You know what I'm saying? The persona. So, shit, I bring that, that shit go crazy, you know? Yeah, I mean with a brand

Like if you're an artist and you create a brand In theory you know you could get to the point where people don't Necessarily want to wear your merch but they're open-minded to the brand itself So it's definitely a longer shelf life on that kind of thing Okay, but so you play can't flogna this year Where did that relationship with Tyler come from in the first place? How did you guys actually become cool? I was at Yam's Day

Performing I ran into that nigga on Tyler Wee's and Rocky on dressing room and shit He's just cracking jokes on everybody. I'm laughing. You know what I'm saying? Cracking gay jokes at Rocky, Rocky. Yo, Tyler, shut up. I'm trying to shut them.

Woo. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that again, too I'm laughing. Then, like, I'm walking out. Then, you know what I'm saying? We started chopping it up. And he said, he told me that when he heard my album, he was with Rick Rubin in London.

And he played it for him. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So I ain't bet. So let's link up. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, get some music in. Then I came to L.A.,

we linked up. And then, bro, we got something. much shit. Really? Hell yeah. Like, it's a lot of shit that, like, we damn got a tape, but I ain't going to just drop it as a tape, you know, he's an artist, I'm an artist,

so we got to sit down and pick everything through, but hell yeah, we got tracks together, tracks that he just produced and I wrapped on, a lot of them. So you guys just met and became, like, friends real fast? It was cool, yeah, plus I ain't gonna lie. I was a fan of Tyler before. Like, remember how I told you?

I was smoking out the bong and shit. Right. So shit, I ain't gonna say how we got it. Just know that I just got a MacBook. You know what I'm saying? So she stole a backbook? I ain't never say no shit on the backbook? Okay.

Nah, somebody just gave it to me. Okay. They damn they just gave it to me. Well, when you're a rapper, people just bring you gifts. Hell yeah, I don't know what it was. He gave me a laptop of some other shit. Okay. I'm on the laptop, you feel me?

I'm like, bro, let me see what the hell this damn all-feiture shit is. I start jamming that shit. I'm like, what the hell wrong with this man? I'm listening to the, you know what I'm saying? But then, like, I saw jamming him and Earl like they were playing shit. I feel like it was a lot of like spired by like clips big L Nause shit like that

just diving in the music you know what I'm saying so I've been with Tyler for a minute right on the music side like you know so when you guys start hanging out like what kind of conversations are you having because it's just kind of hard for me to imagine like you guys just meeting and having that connection but it's kind of fascinating that it worked like that night it's like she every time with Tyler we'd be in the studio some kicking it that niggum be flexing y' I don't know like that's all the big persona shit came me you watched the video he's on custom bin ball of pieces blue diamonds Louis trunks and then we got this shit this back when I was signed the RCA I'm I'm independent now but like nigga we got this

shit cleared right like the whole Louis Vuitton shit like niggins don't get this shit clear I think Virgil clear that shit before he died you feel me but hell yeah like that nigga be showing me like archive shit nigga blue diamonds different diamonds and shit putting it on like some etiquette different type of shit so he just has like insane amounts of drip and diamonds and shit, but that's crazy because I feel like the average person or the average rapper has access to that kind of shit would be putting it all over social media and he

just doesn't really. He's very, very tasteful about it. When you really like that, you're really rich. You don't go about that shit. Right. But like, for certain the artists, you know what I said, when you buy the chain, you buy the watch and shit, you start popping that shit to like, like, but when you got fans like us, don't know why kids don't care about Maxo Cream and no chains and shit, they want

to see me jump up and down on stage March pit with my shirt off. Really? That's it. That's what your audience wants from you at this point. Yeah. Shit. They don't give a damn about that shit. That's all I know I'm not really rich because the only reason I can imagine ever

spending a bunch of money on clothes or on diamonds or whatever is just to flex it on social media. Bro, you're rich. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, but I'm still like so cheap in my brain. How long? You got only fans and you got this shit. Yeah, I got a few. You're rich.

Go buy something. Hell wrong with you. In my mind, I'm plotting to make a grand exit at, Man, I never seen a motherfucker, I never seen the bank chase a hearse. You can put us when she gets him in the business, but they'll live your life. Ah, but there's, there's going to be a day where I just vanish from the public eye, and I just take off, and I'm just like hanging out on the beach. And people who live on that beach are going to be like, damn, that's crazy.

Adam 22 just lives on this beach now. And I'm going to just be gone. Not grinding YouTube content. No, Tupac is dead. But that sort of thing. Like, yeah. No, that would be good, though, if I made it a secret. great.

No, thanks. If nobody knew and I fucking was able to just like pull the wool over everybody's eyes, that's a great idea right there. So, okay, um, there's a lot of different ways we could go with this. Oh yeah,

but I wanted to finish on the Tyler thing. What's up? You mentioned making gay jokes around him. Now, I don't know if he's ever even spoken on it. Hold on. You said, I mentioned making gay jokes. Oh, no. Rocky was making gay jokes. No, he made gay jokes towards Rocky.

Rocky was getting on his ass. Oh, okay. You think Tyler actually dated Jaden Smith, Or was Jaden Smith trawling when he said that? I don't know, bro. I was just with Jaden yesterday. Really? Hell yeah.

With Tyler? We was at the carnival where I seen him walking with a girl. These niggas me were girls, bro. I don't know. What y'all be like, you know what I'm saying? They're like gay for clout and then they have sex with women on the back end? I don't know if they gay like that, bro. I don't know how gay them niggas is, bro.

They don't play with me like that. I ain't like, Tyler be making gay jokes. I don't know. But like, Jayton like shit, he'd be on more like he. respect to art the craft type shit like I let people be who the fuck they want to be whatever GPS they own to get to their end at the point. Right. Let them

do them. Yeah but see I feel like that's just a survival mechanism for you because you are like a mega street dude who knows how to play white people games. Right. Right? Like you know that. That's like the key to his success. Is that white people love a black

dude who actually is like smart and will actually like kind of like fit in with them to the extent that they can enjoy his presence, but then at the same time, they realize, like, oh, no, he's like a real gangster-ass dude from Texas. Like, I feel like you, that's like a big

key to, like, why you've been able to be around so long is that you're able to play that game. Nah, for sure so. Hit the ball. But look, I do this too, though. If I hit that, then the rest of this is going to be slow motion. I mean, I'm kind of down. We got to hit this Texas

Tee, let them know. Yeah. Nah, for shit, so. Wait. Is this still a hit last? Yeah, yeah, that's still a hit. This is still a hit, love. Ah, all right. Adam hitting the maxo bone.

I don't know, like, how much of this shit I'm going to be able to do here. What, do I put my finger over? What hole? There ain't a hole. There's a bone. Man, I should have bought one of the real. Got it, yeah, yeah. Hey, I don't want it no more.

You breathe another like that. Not let it rip, man. Oh, what you're doing at home? I can immediately tell. I can immediately tell. I breathed on it. I breathed on it. too much.

Nah, you're having these right on my ball. God damn it. Can we get some light saw wipes or something shit?

Because he wasn't feeling the way I breathed on that. No, fine, kill it. You know what I'm saying? If you ever want something dead, just put the line to their ass. Oh, man.

See, I love interviewing people that I interviewed like mad times and known for mad years because like I had Sider baby in here too and I was just, I was able to be my true, goofy-ass self. Something about it.

Adam, you show listen, bro. I don't care what nobody said about Adam. You showed me so much love. I remember he was on the Joe Button shit. And then he'll like, you have Maxo Cream. He's a big artist and legend. They're like, no, he's local. I don't lie.

Joe Button knows all love, but who the fuck is local? Did you see my camp vlog in our performance? Do you know how many niggas do Coachella? You know how the nigs be rap about 100K for a show? I got a hundred K for a show before. Do these nigs get that shit? I know because they're talking about. Did you see my tour with suicide boys?

Arenas. They're talking about. You as if my only interest in you could just be like, oh, he's a criminal, a gang member. He's, he had a recode case, yada, yada, and I'm like, I mean, Adam, they don't know. Before all that. About the no jumper tour, I mean, I was

like, little pump and all of them these before they blew up. I ain't do that one, but I did the true of Sammy one. Yeah. Because I think I ended up going on tour with, like, Danny Brown or some shit. So, like, you know what I'm saying? I went to that tour as well, yeah. Exactly.

Been doing this. Didn't I be doing this shit over a decade. I'm blessed. I see, niggas come and go. Right. I'm still here. I'm still getting booked. I'm still doing Lollapalooza, motherfucking Coachella, my tours and shit like that.

I'm blessed. So shout to all my white fans. Do you feel like you're kind of relying on the white fans or what's your relationship with them? I'm, whittling them. That's my core. A lot of people don't have a core. That's my core.

It's whites, Hispanics, blacks, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. White females, black females. Since I did it's something with Megan, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, you did do that. That's crazy. But, okay, does that govern what direction? you want to take your music in sometimes

because if you go do a song with an artist who has a white-ass fan base like a Danny Brown or a JPEG Mafia or a Tyler or whatever, does that speak to like what you want to do whereas I feel like maybe you're somebody who's more comfortable doing a song with the what's his name, NFL Bo, Cartel dude.

You were just on the phone with like these dudes who are really like street dudes from Texas and stuff. Like which side do you prefer to go with? Shit. They don't matter. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of street dudes, Like when I get on the track with them, it gets them out light.

You know what I'm saying? Inside the other world and shit. Then like, I like making music. And it's not about, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like if I put the music and if I put the song. I got hella features that never came out. You know what I'm saying? Plus, I like, like, like, shit.

I like getting on weird beats doing like, you know what I'm saying? Like a little bit of little shit. So I've been working a lot with myself, like dropping shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just on my own kind of shit. But I like working with who fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? paper a feature in my life. Right.

Yeah, and it's kind of crazy seeing you doing the shit with BFB the Pac-Man, too. How did you guys get tapped in? I'm going to interview telling people that he's my cousin saying shit, but he knows I look better. See, I'm the sexy fat nigga. That's a FYBJ main trick. That's what he's doing, running around, telling everybody his little Reese's cousin for some YouTube titles.

I don't know. I didn't see that. I got to go do my research. You know what I'm saying? I got to do my research on that one. Definitely. But, I mean, was it weird being around BFB the Pac-Man? and having him be the fat guy in the room.

He's, like, dominating you in that category now. There's a lot of these little fat motherfuck popping up, bro. Biggest the plug. Right. Fat asses. He's fat as fuck. Yeah, he's what's right. For sure.

Meskin O.T. Mm. Then, I thought I was the fat handsome. These, these be just thinking Mexican O.T. Hansel. What the fuck? Mm. Who else?

A B. B.B. The Pac Man. Right. It's a lot of fat rappers. Yeah. Most of rappers are popping right now fat. Do you feel like you're encouraging obesity through your public persona?

Hell now, I'm working night. Hell, where? But all these rappers are you, like, I don't like fat people. Think about it. People get on Lizzo's ass and say that she's encouraging all these girls to become lard asses, but nobody says that about fucking Rodway, right? Man, Rodway, actually, like, shit, he came, he put it to my house and bought some persona shit. Really?

He wasn't that big, you know what I'm saying? He's trying to lose something. But, bro, when you fat and you young, bro, you're just going to fat it out. You ain't going to really start working out until you get you, like your early 30s like me. You feel me and shit like that? I ain't about being fat. Right. What made you start to care?

Well, my shit, my daughter. I'm like, bro, I don't want to be able to like, you know, I see, everybody knows Maxo got them hands whoo. I don't want to be too old. Then I can't defend for my daughter. Like, you know what I'm a kid. I'm a woman who are my niggas drop me? Right.

And I'm up 45 years old and I'm out of shape of something. Hell, nah, I'm for these young niggas. Did you ever go to the doctor and have it just be like a doctor's visit that was just all doom and gloom where they were just like, yeah, man, you got to lose some weight. Hell now. Really? I ain't pre-diabetic.

I ain't diabetic. I don't got high blood. I can't even say blood. What the fuck? Holy shit. They've never told you a high blood pressure, none of that shit. Hell not. So you just kind of got in front of it before it became.

My dad, so like my dad, like, you know, Papa Maxo, he's sick right now. Like, you know, he doesn't have strokes. He had heart attacks, right? Mow. They were mild, but shit, you know, still like that kind of shit. So, you know what I'm saying? Like they run on my dad's side. Right.

Like bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? My mama healthy is hell. So maybe I get that from her, but I'm like, shit. Me being a fat, black American man, especially with a beard. A Texan. A Texan. Yeah.

Everything's bigger than Texas. Including the portions. Not a dick joke. Right. When you're looking at the camera right that far. Nah, for sure, though. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I don't want to have high blood pressure and just be.

Like, I was tired of just being like super fat. I'm like, shit. Let me go work. I start running. I'm athletic as hell. If you ever see me do anything, who, fight, jump off stage and, like, you know what I'm saying? Rock out crowds and shit like that. I was like, you know, just getting the shape to see where it go.

It's also just the way of life out there in Texas, though, right? I've been out there and I'm just looking at postmates and Uber Eats, and it's just like so much more barbecue, so much more mac and cheese, so much more like... Takes mix and all that. Meanwhile, out here, there's a lot of salad options. Salad and beef, bro. That's why I was losing weight when I was in L.A. Yeah? hungry as hell right they gotta go to fucking do they gotta go to south central

inglewood and shit to east side grain his kitchen and shit I mean we got the same fast food that everybody got I'm gonna want this shit nigga hey look at you crazy as hell we're eating fast food and um Los Angeles Nizia can broke ass intern that they think they're famous because they know somebody but ew you eat McDonald's yuck hell yeah at two o'clock McDonald's the best thing on motherfucking earth but I don't eat this show all the time I walk through this office and see people eating the McDonald's and Jersey mics and all this shit and I'm silently judging them in my head

but I don't say anything because I can't I don't want to alienate myself from my workers Yeah well you know I'm fat so you know when I'm out here I like the steakhouses Really? You know what I'm saying I folk with like a um They got some shit I ain't about to get my drops

I was at Masteros on Saturday I was about to get my drops I ain't tell you how motherfuckers why I eat but You hit Maastros? Hell yeah Yeah that's a good one Hell yeah Massaro's good

Um Boa okay Boa's all right yeah We spent my girl's spent $5,300 to Masters the other day. What the hell she got? It was like 20 people. Oh, for 20 people, that's decent. It still seemed like a lot.

20 people on a birthday could be $1,200, something like that, you know. Yeah, I guess everyone's drinking. That's when it really gets a little rough. Yeah, see, you got to sneak your own bottle in, bro. Listen, bro. I got money in, but I'm cheap, too, bro. Come on, you got to be real, is it? That's a good move, right there.

That's why I've been up for so long. You got to sneak that whole in, you know what I'm saying? Teller it coming with, like, the little domier duff with the whole big and cheap. Wow You know what I'm saying She's coming With that bitch Boom

That's not a bad idea Oh, Poe up, you know Are you really cheap though You always have like I'm cheap as fuck You got like

Five chains on You are Yeah Nah for sure Like I go spend on Some Chromehard jeans Yeah But then when it

Come to some flights I'm like Hold on bro We're taking these flights Right Not no spirit Okay Maybe American

Or something like Yeah I go shopping Like I go drop A 20 ball 25 ball But We're doing the PJ

Like hold on Man We ain't just doing The PJ today You don't I mean weird books when I'm flying economy for sure. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give a fuck.

I blew the day. Like the fight come here, they ain't had no down first class. I'm like, fuck, I just jump in the back. Right. A lot of times they don't even have first class.

Right, that should be gone. But also, like, if it's $2,000 to fly like a couple hours, like I just don't care. It's a fucking chair. $2,000.

Sometimes. Man, I put them holes early. That's too goddamn much. Bro, you go overseas? All of a sudden, it's supposed to be like $10, yeah,

yeah, yeah, The first class up. To go to Nigeria is going to be like 10 bands. Really? But that's Nigeria, though. It's worth it. Yeah, imagine just how many people are flexing in the first class section of that?

You already know, we're probably something like, Baca Rock and motherfucking goddamn Jolofrice. Yeah, you're going to meet some serious hitters in the first class on the way there. Yeah, especially because I don't lie, I'm just going to say it, bro. Like, Nigeria just be having money. Right. Okay. Yo, so I facetimed you the other day when we were talking about Tony Wilrich.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has that saga really takes it? in Texas by storm. Is he the talk of the town? Hell, there ain't nobody worried about him in Houston. On my block, hell now. Because you made that clear.

That's Dallas, Dallas, Florida, that's some other shit over there. Yeah, that's some weird shit that O.G. Percy co-signed in. I fuck OG Percy, but he said some shit.

Remember when like that little Rico shit I had to go back in real quick? Yeah. They were trying to say that like, because I linked up with him or something, I got hot. Ligger hell the fuck no. Really?

Hell no. My case is on money on. Get money. Not no old. You know what I'm saying. Shit like that. I don't know what the niggas on. But with that dude, I don't got nothing to do with that.

I don't know nothing about that. You know what I'm saying? Shit, I ain't have nothing to do with that. That's some Dallas-Fort war shit. But there's some real niggas in Dallas and Fort War. So you can't just put that on them. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of real crip niggas out there.

You know what I'm saying? Real loks. But see, we got like a different version of you real quick right there. Because when you were talking about Jaden Smith and whoever, it's like you're very, very open-minded. It's all the gay shit. And then as soon as you start talking about some street shit, we get a little bit of a different perspective.

You're fucking right. Because hey, man, he got drug the line somewhere, bro. In the game, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't speak for nann. Niggas go to jail and they be this and that. But shit, there ain't nobody playing boyantly. Right. Just doing that shit where I'm from.

You know what I'm saying? Hell not. So you could kind of like accept a gay crib if it was more, if he was less out there with it, less making it a thing, less doing interviews, talk about it type of shit. Man, I retired all my game banging shit, so I don't got to accept nothing.

when I was like, you know what I'm saying full-bledged gang banging and doing all that shit it wasn't none of that They ain't joining my shit Wait, so when did you retire your gangbain shit? Shit, nigga, I retired that shit I'd say When I signed my deal for real Your first deal?

First deal. It was with RCA? Hell yeah Okay, and you just decided You wanted to move different? I would assume that it would have been around the time of the record When you rapping And you're on the road

then I was getting so much money, bro. Like, even then, like, I'm going to focus on trapping. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not incriminating myself. I go look this shit up. Right. You know what I'm saying? All that shit.

Beat the charges. Yeah, yeah. But, like, I was more fascinated with, like, getting money. Like, I wasn't on the block active every day, press the niggas and shit like that. Then I was getting loved. Like, cring click out everything. BDs, GDs, bloods, crips. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, like, niggas be trying to go off of Cali's shit. Like, you know, all that shit in Cali. That shit cool, but we got our own politics and shit in Houston. Right. That niggas deal with and that niggas do. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, all shit is different, but back to Tony, the Tony Real Rich dude, no. It's not good.

It's not happening. He already retired, he dropped his flag. Be like that. So you agree with him making that decision? Yeah. Leave that shit alone. Go rap. Especially if you got a buzz and you doing your thing, go rap, don't.

Beating to that shit. And he's going to be trying you and all kinds of shit. Right. Why don't bring it to yourself? Then you didn't even know none of the shit. Right. Well, I interviewed half-pint films the other day, too. And he basically said that Tony Willrich has just been doing whatever to go viral for as long as he known him.

So that that shit didn't really surprise him that much. But also, like, he's just not, it's not like he was ever some super serious gang dude. He's just from an area or whatever and decided to roll with it. I don't know how exactly OG Percy got wrapped up in that. But, yeah, I don't know. It's just funny to be that when it comes. comes to the celebrities is one attitude and when it comes to anyone kind of associated with the street stuff do you think you'll ever get past that or is that just you say what he needs to be

like the the fact that you view street dudes being gay differently than like celebrities yeah yeah yeah because the streets and the celebrity shit is totally different that's why I say I left that shit alone you don't see me on no corner banging for sure on my videos I go back to my block right but when you see me on my block I'm doing giveaways Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I'm known for having the most infamous videos with guns and all that shit. Right. But that shit is just like, I'm getting older.

I'm pushing a different agenda. Like, shit, I don't want a whole bunch of shooters. I don't need them. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. I was getting money. Like, you get money, you want to pop this shit. You know what I'm saying?

Jewel and cars, clothes and shit like that on that kind of shit, I'm going to fuck with you. But that super old man died, like, these nigs ain't never caught no cases. Right. These niggas ain't never fought no murder case. You niggas ain't ever lost no homies for real. Everybody lose homies, though. But, like, you know what I'm saying? They ain't really go through the shit.

Right. Like, I seen it, bro. During the SoundCloud era, I was the only nigga really trapping. Niggins just to come to my shit. Like, I'm like, R.P.J. Staschville though, but he came to my shit. He niggas seen a K-pack of Zanz. It was like, oh. Like, a lot of these niggas.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I really know what's going on with this rap shit. Like, you good and you're tempted, man. Get your money. A thousand Zans. A K-pack is a thousand, I'm assuming. Yeah, and there's only one. What the second day the home.

But yeah. That's old school shit. Yeah, but no, for sure. When I was reading up on your RICO from back in the day, that was one thing they said is that when you guys were apprehended or whatever, they found like 2,000 Zanz. That's what they say. I beat it.

They say a lot of shit. Was that, like, I don't know, like speaking. Okay, so the reason why that RICO allegedly came down, there's a video from, I believe, Trapp Geek, that's called Hoover, the music video that took down a tech. This block and it has like four million views and it basically talks about that music video which had a shitload of guns in it and everything and obviously it's like Gang content because the song's called Hoover but they basically draw the line between

that and the Rico and say that that's basically like how that ended up coming about is it weird to have that kind of documentary out there about you and is that shit accurate that shit is not accurate so it's a nigga named Sadiq he's a fucking snitch you know what I'm saying this nigga was motherfucking goddamn he bought a car he was like a bin swap or something. You know what I'm saying? And then why he did that, the police saw him serving two pounds. You know what I'm saying? So they had a helicopter

outside for the car and they caught this nigga serving. And then, nigga, he went and, like, he was on his own shit. You know what I'm saying? He went and they started making up false accusations on the whole gang, man. Really? Dude. Dude. But yeah, man, this is making a false accusations of all this shit, bro.

That nigga snitched on his baby mama, his little brother. Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? He was just, I ain't going to say snitch because snitch mean that you're telling somebody did a crime. He was just lying on people. And you just, you beat it. Like, how long was this a pain in your ass for? I caught it. And so I was on tour with Danny Brown.

I had like, shit, 90K cash, popped in like it was half a meal. I had like 90K, you know what I'm saying? Been touring, selling merch and shit like that. I was on tour. Like, you know what I'm saying? Traveling went to the West Coast. Then, like, when I came, came home, I pulled up. You know what I'm saying?

my mama gave me a call she said to my own little brother Josh she's like the police just came in here and grabbed them I don't know what the fuck going I'm like what the hell he got going on I'm like I'm like let me know the bun I'm gonna see what's up but why I'm pulling in I see like three HPD cars like you ever seen D like I'm starting like motherfucker DMX and belly like he pulled up and as long as that's at his shit that's how it was to me so I pulled down they got me fucked up I ain't going so boom you know what I'm saying I hit up my lawyer Put the returning in and shit like that. Start seeing what's up with buns and shit. But I had a show in Houston. So I like, fuck it. I'm just going to the show. I went to the show. And then my girlfriend at the time,

I about chopped up with her real quick, but my dumb ass walked outside. As soon as I walked outside, I tried to run back. And one of the warehouse live people, stop me. I'm like, you motherfucker. I seen a cop car come this way.

A car car come this way. So I'll start walking. I passed up a cop. They thought that somebody else was me. You know what I'm saying? But then when I got to, to like to watch my car, they pointed me out. You know what I'm saying?

Then they pointed me out. Then they had showed me a picture of my boy. You know what I'm saying? They're like, you know him? I'm like, hell now what the fuck is this? You know what I'm saying? Then they brought me in from the show. Did it feel like you were kind of being targeted as the famous guy out of

Hell the fuck, yes. Right. Hell yeah, they targeted me. Because when it's in the news and shit. That was like one of the first state RICO's, you know, because RICO's used to come a federal level. Right. You know what I'm saying?

One of the state Ricos, yeah. But you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Now they're throwing them holes all over Florida. Like everybody catching the motherfuckers. Even thug shit is a state rico. Right, yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Then I just feel like I don't like speaking on shit. But I feel like Thug gonna beat it. Cause niggas is a state rico. Nick, if you really, what they said was 15 murders involved or some shit like that? If they had that shit, they had that shit. Right. So I just feel like he'd beat it. Damn, that's crazy.

But so did that mark an important change in your life when that shit happened where you kind of realized that you needed to maybe clean your act up a little bit? Yeah, because I was independent and all like, fuck her label. You know what I'm saying? But once that shit happened, you know what I'm saying? They hit us with money laundry, $500,000 better, conspiracy of 2,000 pounds. Then, like, you know what I'm saying? And then organized crime.

So they hit us with all them. So I'm like money laundry. Now, I make money. Like, this ain't no dope money. Like I stream, I tour. I do shows, merch, all that. You know what I'm saying? It's all like, fuck it.

I just signed a deal. Right. Damn. It was a good deal, though. Don't get me wrong. I'm out the deal. I recouped, some major label deal, and I didn't get dropped.

I'm back independent. Did you end up feeling like the label shit was just not for you? It was cool. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know what I'm saying? Like, I know, I'm supposed to make hits and shit like that, you know what I'm saying?

But I like just making my music. Like, you know what I'm getting older? Like, you know, I'm getting older. Like, for a time of time, I'd be hating to do that shit. Like, I used to pop hell of my bands, Adderall, just to rap. But I just found a love back. Like, when I was on the label,

I ain't like doing music for real. Right. They're like whatever because they be trying to make a nigga make them old pop-ass songs and shit like that. Some my most biggest songs be like like the little neat shit that I make. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. And that shit streamed. You feel me?

But would they send you beats with like pre-written hooks and shit? Hell yeah. I hate that shit, though. Hell yeah. Like a motherfucker, bro. You never got anything that you were like, oh yeah. Like this could be fucking dope. I'll like turn this shit to fuck off.

Really? Shit was all corny-ass radio shit for real. They ever try to put you in the studio like with songwriters or they were. just sending you sort of like, nah, like shit, they put me in shit with songwriters.

And you just couldn't really vibe with them? I invite like the lean man and some bitches. And just like, then like I get it at night something like shit we gotta go to the club.

Right, but I mean, the songwriter could be a cool dude. The songwriter could just be like some rapper that ain't really popping like that anymore but he's really good

at writing shit, right? Right. I mean, I probably could have got on that shit and made a hit. When number one, I ain't gonna say the shit was bad. I just wasn't fucking with it.

Right. I don't like him people write for me. because there's a lot of artists that I like. Like, Kodak is one artist that I really love. And there are some Kodak songs where I just listen to it. And I'm like, I do not believe for a second that he went into the studio and made this song. I just really believed that the label, he signed to Atlantic, I believe they sent him the beat, the flow, the hook, whatever.

And that he was just actually down to do it. And then I see the marketing push behind some of those songs. And I'm like, this is such, this is like what the fucking label was made to do is to like, make you have a hit song and then push it. I don't know. But I mean, shit, if you can't get into the fucking vibe of doing it, then I guess it is what it is. Yeah, I like making my own shit, like,

just doing the maxo shit. Then I was looking at the streams. I was like, bro, I was streaming the same as I was when I was independent that when I was signed. Really? Like, hell, yeah. Like, my earliest shit, streaming more than my hell, yeah. What about something like that Meg feature?

That seems like the kind of thing that a label would help make happen. I, bro. The label never did shit for me as far as feature. Yeah. That's what I'm going to say. Every feature was me and my relationships. I've been knowing Meg, bro. Like, it was even a time, bro.

Like, I was trying to sign Meg. You know what I'm saying? She knows that, her mom and all that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Before Carl Crawford. Hell yeah. Really. Shout out Carl, you know what I'm saying.

The whole shit. Shout out Meg. You know what I'm saying. But hell yeah. Megan used to, bro. She used to cut up parties with the Hennessy bottle and turn the fuck up. Right. Rap and shit.

Like, I've been knowing Meg. You feel me? Wow. That's crazy. What could have been? If you had done that, that would have been fucking naughty. I caught that Rika. I'm like, fuck that.

I got to put this money into me. Really? So when you met her, was she, like, not on anything? She was just having a few songs out or what? She was, she was known for free silence. She was with the pre-review at first. Right. So, like, she was known, like, I think she was on a dance team

or some shit like that. Just going to parties, turn up freestyle. She's going to go to parties and just rap and go feed. That's fucking crazy. Damn. She's got to be, like, a huge deal in Texas in general. You just hear, like, girls listening to her wherever you go and shit. Yeah, I want you to be honest.

say concert and she came out really they went crazy wow shout out to Meg um how do you feel about my man Crip Mac that i wanted to bring you guys together but like i feel like that should maybe be something we do after we catch up because i feel like he's he's such an amount of energy associated with him how do you feel about him right crib man how i feel about him i feel like shit we can get in the ring and fight with some money oh wow but i ain't about do no game banging with no niggas go back and four niggas know what the fuck I do the niggas. So what, the forehead tattoo has you feeling a sort of way? Shit, my set stopped banging Hoover.

Like, I went to work with my set behind that shit before I retired. Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? But everybody in my set got hoover tatted on them. But it's not like on some shit like, fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? Hoover or something. He's just like, bro.

Houston, Texas is 90% hoover. Right. But wait, so why did your team stop fucking with it? It was some shit, man. It was just like some shit with like the older niggas jail and shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like us, like, nigga, we was the Hoovers. Like, we brought that shit to A-Leaf on the side,

Fort Park Murder Block. Like, you know what I'm saying? Niggas know about this shit. But it was just like some politics shit. Like, everybody at Hoover. Right. So somebody like, you feel me, so it's just to separate. Wow, that's interesting.

Shit like that. But, yeah, I don't gang bang no more. You know what I'm saying? Nothing like that. You know, I'm saying for ever protected community. Mm-hmm. So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was foreign park crib.

You know what I'm saying? But forever protect the community, like, if you catch me out there, I'm shooting the video or I'm giving back. Like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't out there. Thuggin sitting on no block and shit like that. You feel me?

Because we already got the reputation. Niggas is scared of us, bro. Right. Niggas play dead for they play with us. Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? And we don't even know that time. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Come and being all tough and shit. Niggas trying to get some money on and, you know. You feel like the cops have it out for you? Or do you feel like the cops are starting to look at you like a good citizen? Man, last time I was in jail was fan cops. Really? Hell yeah. Them niggas.

I don't say fan dot they know the real The bailiff they used to get on our ass Remember the big um Miss Elliot Yeah you know what I'm saying The one I used to get on our shoes Come down their whole Swolding the motherfucker you know what I'm saying But then she'd come with like a snoop dog do

And a perm I'm like look she's still a woman Right Like you know what I'm saying But recently she came up to me She was like yeah man They just dragging this case on Like you know what I'm saying

The DA fucking got it out for you And everybody in jail like The fucking all the COs is fucking with me Really You know what I'm saying They jamming my music and shit like there giving me that speech like man you're bigger than these guys man because when I was in that hole they was I was a king I had like three assistants

everything that you know what I'm saying like riding all night everyone was having fun we was playing basketball like turned up and then they thought that I was in there like having a good time right I'm like now nigga is jail but shit nigga what ever I'm man I'm gonna make the best of something right because you must be like a fucking king in the county jail there I mean you just I mean niggas fuck with me right but you got enemies in there too people aren't happy to see that in a good time no Like that? Nah, like, all my office is dead or in jail broke.

Really? Hell yeah, I don't really got no ops. I get love. The niggas, there's a so-called ops. They love my music. They kids love my music. You know, I'm older. I've been thugging.

You know what I'm saying? I'm older now on my corporate shit. So, you know what I'm saying? Plus a lot of shit, like, I see a nigga. Like, I see a nigga and a nigga that I see a nigga and I'm robbed and shit. Then they give me a speech. They're like, you know, I ain't tripped on that shit. Bro, this keep doing what you do.

I know you was younger. Woo, woo. Like that shit didn't have them before Could you be that mature about somebody Haven't done something like that to you? I ain't never been wrong Let's say that you ran into somebody That had shot at you in the past

Ten years ago Hell yeah, I have. You're over it? We had to talk. You have a talk. I don't see any of that shot at me. I caught him with his kids, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't on that kind of shit

Like, you know what I'm saying? I get a nigga, I ain't dead, bro, you feel me? It's other nicks that they had done Why the fuck I'm studying the day? It's because Adam got me on this fucking Blanco. It might be because you're shoving fucking blunt roaches into the bong but she's show and i seen your sneaky ass like hitting it where you didn't even break off the piece you were just holding it in there

and shit i'm like what all your life is just talking about sneak yeah i ain't got a sneak of do nothing right do we don't talk about crib mac we're gonna talk about you and my niggins on back on on big cuz you know how we come in this motherfucker i gotta bring yeah something at here but yeah we back on melrose now but uh what what what about back on fig no because you we ain't though Crip, Matt. Hold up. Hold up. Let's start there. This Blanco kicking in. Okay, no, but this is why my one encounter with it.

I'm going to look for topics for Max O'Cream. I'm taking notes. I see a clip on back on fake. It's a clip called Max O'Cream talks about his beef with sauce Walker. I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, did he ever have beef with sauce water? I don't know that to be a fact. So I'm curious. These three topics. And I start reading the comments before I even get into the clip. And I realize you obviously had a very famous fight in a parking lot with Rizzo Rizzo, not Soss Walker. Yeah. So that's why you need to come fuck with professional operations because they won't give you the wrong ops in the title of the video.

Nah, thanks, fat. Shout out Soss Walker. All right, back to Crip Mac. Because, you know what's cracking. Shout out J. Free J.F.5, you know what I'm saying? But, like, you know what I'm saying, bro? It is with his name about the game back with him because, bro, it's like, first off, it's L.A.

y'all bad at his head tat every nigga lip up brick baby's shirt every nigga got that shit tatted on them and guess what my homies got this shit too I got homies I got the criminals they got CK on them

you know the five deuses you know what I'm saying for in park we keyway too but like I'm just saying like you know what I'm saying so I don't even get into all that shit because everybody got them kind of tats

you know what I'm saying it's just like he's been talking about the Houston niggas and shit like that I went to hastens the nigga he talked about Fabio asked Fabio about my crippment back in the day and by Trigger Maxo Trigger Max O C before Maxo cream

He know that shit I don't like Then he said Hazel's Elsie but I think he kind of slow Wait Trigger Maxo that was like a hood name for you at the time Yeah, yeah Oh okay You know what I'm saying? I can't imagine how you got that name You ain't ever heard of him No I remember you saying out of songs and shit

But I didn't know that that was like a formal Yeah nah but shit sure it's sure it before Maxo Cream It was Max OC you know what I'm saying boom So like But I think Crimack kind of slow because he talked about Hazen Elsie. That means that he was in the index. That's where the schools connect.

You know what I'm saying? That's what like the Spanish classes at, the ESL, like the kind of slow kids. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I ain't getting in the game banging with him. He just started. I'll be doing this shit since 2003 since I was 13, you feel me? We could fight and look, it'll be, bro.

They should have made money. You know what I'm saying? I think they should have made money now. I ain't doing it for no money. I don't even be on that kind of shit. But it's like you keep, like, you know what I'm saying, throwing shit back. You know, that niggas is a YouTube.

I'm a rapper. Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't be on their YouTube shit. Like, you know, but, shit, but some money and I do that shit. Would it be something where, if you won the fight, would you shake hands with them afterwards? Or would you spit on his ass afterwards? I ain't.

Two options. There's only two ways for a fight to end. This thing, I have them freaky. You know about the Savage Life, right? Nick I know about the Chicago. Shout out Rico Reckles, bro. Rico Regless is my boy. You know what I'm saying?

You hit Crit Mac with the Glock Dokey? You might want to stay out of him for a while. Shout, I wrong. I roam me, bro. Brick Baby is my nigger. Right. Brick is my nigger. Does he have HK tattoos?

I haven't seen it. He probably do, bro. He got a song called back to Slawson. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, my God. Like, look, let me tell you how, how me and Brick Baby met.

So I would love to know. He was with Frato. Everybody knows Frato. My brother, saw. So I'm talking with Fredo. Fredo from Chicago. He's a BD. So he's like, I got a Crip homie.

I'm like, yeah. He's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like, oh my God. You know what I'm saying? He like, he's like, yeah, he's cripped like you. I'm like, shit,

he's not cripped like me, but yeah, now because of Crip. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, shit, he's like, bad. I think he was at South by Sawyerhuis or something.

He was with Dirk. I was with Fredo. And then Fredo was smart. I think Fredo knew what the fuck he was doing. Right. He was smiling. And then he had introduced us. You know what I'm saying?

And then Bribebbaugh was like, Hoover, like that. Like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Shorn love. Since then I've been, you know,

Brick may be coming to Houston. Right. Like, when he said he'd be in Texas, then the guy ain't lying. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, back when I used to be with Gunny and shit like that, he would be with him and shit like that.

Or, like, he came to my birthday party. Hmm. What was it? You still going to be out here? 2020. You still going to be out here Friday? Friday.

Nah, I'm gone. Ah. I come back. I come back, man. You know I'll come back for Adam's birthday party. I'll send the RSVP link. It's going to be a star stuff. Who's going to be there.

Shit. Amber Rose. No, maybe had to come whoop one of your partners, bro. You know, Adam is hell. Nah, we had to be, certain people didn't get invited, basically, in order to keep things friendly. Yeah, I come. It's a complicated, a couple complicated decisions to make there.

But yeah, so with Krip, I'm going to help me with your topics. Oh, yeah. Sorry, so with Krip, Mac, we're going to fight for some goddamn money. Now, I remember you asked me something about the real zone fight. We can go to the, you know what I'm saying? After we talk about the shit with you and back on feed. What do you want to know? What's going on?

man. There's nothing going on. God damn, bro. Right. What? Who you gonna look at? I ain't talked to them. What you mean?

What do you want to know? I'm gonna look at CMAC. We all I talked about this. I'm gonna look at CMAQ in the ring for some money. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Who are you gonna look at?

Who am I gonna fight? Yes. Not one arm lizard man. No, AD too big. He's a heavyweight. He's like 400 pounds. No, you should go. No.

I mean. You want me to call him right now? No. That would be. You call me on Tony Willrich. I can't call Trell. That is a good point. You said Trippin.

You said Tritman. I mean, you could do whatever you want. But I don't think that he thinks that he wants to fight me in a boxing ring. That would be. No, I'm going to call my nigga. Let me see. Do I still got the same one? That's like the WNBA playing against the NBA.

Who got his number? Call him, man. They have to ask each other for the number. I mean, realistically, I have his number, but he has me both on Instagram. Hell, no, I'm not calling him. It's up. But hey, yeah. Nah, that's all jokes.

Yeah, nah, shit, but shit. But see, look, see how your jokes be turning into other shit where people, sometimes you got to fill your jokes. Yeah, no. But look, Adam, you know. I ain't worried about them. But look, ain't nobody going to play with you, bro. You know, I got your back.

Yeah? You're my nigga, bro, for sure, for sure. I just had to come on with him and be messy. No, no, I like it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? We need that kind of energy out here. Yeah, man.

Is it there? Blanco. See, I was chilling there first. Yeah. They hit the Blanco, hit the bong again. How did they get you tapped in with T-Rill, anyway? How I made T-Rill? The Hoover Commission told you,

like, we need you to sit down with this guy. Nah, hell, nah. I remember it was the time one of my homies, H-crown. Like, he had, like, a problem with it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Free H-Crown, you know what I'm saying? Right.

Real fire those Hoover Gangs is the crew. That nigga had me on 50th Street. Really? If anybody know about the hut inside the groove line, that was on 505th Street, but that's what's what I've got. So, yeah, I've been to 55-st street and all that. You know what I'm saying?

But anyways, age crime he had a problem with T.Rill and I really tried, like, you know what I'm saying, kind of like dead that shit, you know what I'm saying, shit like that. Okay. I fuck with T.Rill. He had a store back when I was with my baby mama. We had went in there, then like he came mom. I'm like, okay, so this is your stove. I think him and Tiger had a store that called Last Kings back in the day. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, T.Rill, yeah, he's a good nigga, bro. Right. Yeah, great guy. But he's going to whoop you? What's he going to do, Adam? What's he going to do? You think he's going to whip me? He doesn't have full access to his limbs. Like he's just, it's not, it's not a fair fight. That's fucked up, bro.

Like, I mean, a lot of people, that's crazy though. Certain people get put in. He might sleep you with that motherfucker, see, because you're gonna be looking for, he'll come, wopow, catch you with something ugly and knock their assight. Yeah, you're gonna have to fight this chopper. Boy, he's a gangbanger.

They think of the guy put down, DPs, all that shit. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, everybody called to you running this is a motherfuckering. Shut up, you want the damn view. This is going to be funny as fuck. You want the goddamn views. You're going to hang up before fucking.

Later today, I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Hoover Day. I was just telling Brigh, baby, it's Hoover Day. Hey, bro, once I retired in like 10 years, I'm going to be a host. I was telling Brick, baby, there's one. There's one.

There's one whoever you can be around. There's one whoever you cannot be around. So security-wise, we're moving appropriate today. Let me see. What is this going to be his opening, his opening line. Uh-oh. This is going to be insane. Uh-oh.

This is some real Marvel Cinematic Universe shit. Well, no, it's 4 o'clock. He might be streaming, though. Is it? Oh, yeah, it's 403. He probably is streaming. What day is it? Monday.

Yeah. How are you lucky? Damn. Just dodge that fade. What I'm gonna call AD? Whack did that the other day. Whack? Shout out, Wack.

Wack, set up the CRIMAC fight, man. I love that you. really want to fight him though but has he dissed you I never really heard the rins you yes bro damn I miss that now he ain't never diss me he just said Hayser else's gonna what the fuck is that I'm like bro I went to Haysas High School so I did two years at Hayses and how long oh boy I'm calling Cripman yo Trial guess why I'm at bro what's up old friends now yeah we gotta get this shit straight you know I'm rocking with my boy T Reel look

Man, I'm riding with you. But with me, yeah. So what are we going to do? The boxing magic is, man, I know you're going to whip at him. We already talked about it. I said I'm going to go with Crip Mac. You know what I'm saying? And we're going to end it like that.

Because Cubs playing with you. I'm like, bro, he got put down. He probably got DPs. He probably done bick through all kind of shit. Adam, you think you're going to whip this, nigga? I think he knows that, too, right? Man, so what are we doing? I'm riding with you.

All right. I told you you're scared. That nigga ain't scared? My nigga ain't scared. Bro, they won't even mention me on the fucking podcast. I'm the boogeyman to them. I'm fucking Gucci man. Hey, you bet I don't follow me to you,

where I know what that deep. I'm going to come over there. You see how uncomfortable he got? He's like, sad. I'm going to tell you what's grew. Get me your number two. Well, I've been headed. Get this down block off of him, man.

This is what happens when you start sticking bun. in the bong. Yeah, come, we got to take another hit. God damn. We got hit it to, like, normal way, though. Wait, you just don't want me to breathe on it again? Bro, what do you be doing, bro? What?

You got the only fans? You can't breathe on my shit like that, bro. What am I doing on my only fans? I'm eating vaginas and assholes. Exactly, bro. All goddamn damn, breathing down my deep throat my goddamn bong, bro. A lot of people seem to think I'm gay lately.

I don't know what the hell's going on. But you're not gay. No, of course not. You can't be gay. You're just into that white boy's shit. I do identify. White boys. Like, white boys fuck bitch is dipping, bro.

You know, they be on like that weird, like to a black nigga like that weird shit. Hey, now that you're not with the Hoover movement anymore, what do you think about the zesty disciples? Who, nigga, who said that out of the, um. I thought you said you said you dropped it. I said I'm not an active gang member. Okay. But you could still be a zesty disciple. What the hell is that?

It's a whole, it's a whole thing. I probably shouldn't get into explaining it right now. Hey, man, RIP, my nigga, Frato. Shout out 061 Front Street. to be these on King David, boy. I know how I'm coming, boy. You like that? On King David, Chody.

On King, that. Hey, I don't lie. That shit was, hold on, no. What do you got about you? I hadn't heard the song. Man, you heard that. You heard that. Nobody believes me that I haven't heard the song,

but I just, I keep ignoring it every time he tags me in it. He's like, I got nicks. Something like that. That's everybody's judge. Why do you let people disrespect your, I never disrespect your girl, just because it's your girl, you my niggum. Right. Why you let people do that shit?

What am I going to do? I'm just going to fucking nuke everybody. No, you need to practice fighting them, niggas. So you can get ready for trail when he hits you with their hand. You keep talking about, he's going to sleep you with it. He's a deadish. He's a dead of shit. I have the fact that we get here, everybody's screaming on the outside.

This interview was so high at first that blood will get the kicking in. On King David, Shorty. Listen, if I'm going to make my life into a fucking joke and do shit like a reality show with a bunch of dudes trying to fuck my girl, I got to be able to take some jokes, right? I got to be able to let Famous Richard write a fucking song and not. like, I'm gonna beat you up, Richard. On King David. So shit, who are you gonna slap?

Nobody. You don't get a fuck about this shit. My nigga Adam out of here. I mean... On his is, man. I'm doing my thing. I'm not worried about it. Nobody's, like, said anything about that shit

that bothers me. I can't think of anybody I would be mad at it. If I was going to be mad at anybody, it would probably be academics for doing the play-by-play of her getting fucked by this other guy, but I only seen a little bit of that, so... No, I fuck with you in that. Why?

Because I actually sit there. down y'all be there with the interview niggas like you know what I'm saying right that shit we sit down with the interviewers what do you mean like I'll be there with the artists oh yeah like you like you know if you're not like open like no screen and shit like though this spread nobody to do that shit but it's like more authentic that shit's boring right like even even I did a stream with academics for like three hours like a couple months ago and it's just like it's just not the same energy like I feel like people would be so much more excited to see us in the same room but when on discord it's just I don't know you lose something I don't know um so you're

really playing golf now oh was that like a one-time thing I'm in a couple of times you know I'm saying I'm trying to you know all my neighbors like you know I'm saying like being friendly with the neighbors and shit like that I got a kid now so really hey yeah so I'm gonna with the golf so you're neighbor that's who you go golfing with is your neighbors or you're just trying to like fit in and do the same like my neighbors and plus this is the um you know I got the brand persona, you know what I'm saying, persona. Cop that shit with. Yeah, I got the

brand that we're doing like a little collab with Raleigh Gough. You know what I'm saying? It's a golf brand out of Houston. Right. Like, they people be, like, having like, planks and shit, like, the most infamous golf clubs. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, who the fuck was behind us while? When we was golfing, was it? Roger Clemens or Aaron Rogers, is one of them motherfuckers.

Shit like that. Talk about we holding up the goddamn T. Really? Like the hell, yeah. You think you're good at it, or are you struggling? I'm decent. What's I got to? You know what I'm saying? I'm decent. Right. I mean, I'm going to be real, like, rich people play golf. This is just what they do. It's why I'm working out.

True. But if you just want to, like, be involved in those sort of social circles, like, bro, there's a reason why the president is golfing, like, 100 days out of the year and shit. Like, Donald Trump was out there golfing constantly. Like, people who are serious in business and shit, if you want to be in those circles, golfing seems like a pretty good way to get there. No, thanks. And also, if you're like a swagged out rapper dude, I feel like they probably have. I'll be killing the golf.

I'll be killing the golf outfits. Right. Niggins ain't fuck. Really niggas can't fuck with me in general with this shit. It's maxill motherfucking see the plosh grip you ever see. But does that mean you to have to wear the fucking goofy-ass golf outfits? I ain't true. And it's something new.

I'm going to crash it every time. Right. You know what I'm saying? There's that school boy Q on that too. He's a golfer, I think. Yeah, but he, I'm going to score a business than me. Like, he's for real. You know what I'm saying?

Right. I go, like, you know what I'm saying? Papa has some fun. But that shit get boring. and then when I get the missing that bitch, I'm like, man, fuck this shit. My dad has previously requested that I go golfing with him and I told them I can't do it.

I'm just, I don't think I can do it. Right. And when I think about it, like, I'll probably maybe just be making fun of me the whole time. They're going to be laughing their asses off at me if I really suck as bad as I assume I would suck. That's what probably is keeping me from doing it. I don't know.

Okay. What about, oh yeah, this is another thing I really wanted to hear you chime in on. So Saucy Santana told academics that he was going to beat the shit out of him and fuck him. Which is a hilarious sentence, even if we just left it right there.

Damn. But academics basically said that he can't fight a gay guy because he thinks he'll get canceled. I mean, I feel academics, there's like a fucked-up bad situation. Like, academics ain't no gangster. Right. There's like some gangster as shit. He's like...

You're not going to fuck, yeah. Just like... Oh, shit. That's just fucking next level shit right there. But, I mean, could you fight Saucy Santana if he wanted the smoke? I ain't got no smoke with Saususus Santana But what if he declared war on you?

I'm a motherfucking man Anybody come out of way, nigga, what the fuck? Even if they have a BBL? He got that? Yeah Long-ass nails Like your girl Ain't no nigga about the swing on me, bro

Right Like you even try to touch you, you're gonna die Like, I ain't gonna do it If Sots is a punch of academics I got people like, you know what I'm saying Pay security, but like man Bro, don't even play with me like that But at the end of the day

Like shit, nigga Saususitin is a man so I'm gonna defend myself against any man even with a BBL That's crap I got security for shit like that But shit I got trans security

I mean shit but hey bro Academics if you want to fight Saus Santana I could train you like you know what I'm saying Get you right Right Yeah yeah but I mean yeah for sure If Saucer Santana walked up to the academics And hit him then it's all good

But realistically like that's Oh shit But you hear that Puffy tried to like Get academics caught up He invited them to a party in the London that the city girls and Saucy Santana were at. So he could have got turned into a pack at this crazy

party party. He just got to fight back. Defend yourself academics. Like, yeah. I got your back, bro. Let me know, boy, I train you. Like, you know what I'm saying? That could be a whole C, bro, yourself to fight him, bro. That could make some money. Okay, but your first public fight is a big deal.

Does he want his first public squabble to be with a guy with a BBL and a beard? That's weird for his image. Like, that would be bad for your image. If you had never had a fight before and then all of a sudden there's a video you fighting a fucking dude with a BB. I would be like Maxo, I would hit up Toby like, bro,

this isn't right. This is not good for his career. I don't know, bro. He don't got to fight him, bro. Just ignore him. With the media right now, bro, you could just ignore shit. Like, nigga, after a month people will forget. Right. Like, even cancel coach, I don't feel like anybody get canceled. But don't me try to go look for shit to cancel me for

me saying this. I'm just saying like you can't really cancel like Could anybody cancel Chris Brown? Yeah. You could cancel no light-skinned nigga that do backflips. Like, the bitch is still going on. Like, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is that, like, any normal artist would have pretty much been canceled

for what Chris Brown did, except for the fact that he's so musically talented. Bro, if you dark, big, black, dark with a beard, you don't stand that chance when it comes to cancel culture, bro. They look at you like, man, hell, yeah. Yeah, you don't know. Dark-skinned niggas get it bad, bro. You don't have all the advantages that he has. Because look at the baby.

All the baby. Hold on. Hold on. I do. I'm the fat and sexist motherfucker out here, my nigga. Right. ass these holes, nigga, what the fuck? But I'm just saying, like, the baby,

he got canceled for just saying some shit about motherfuckers with AIDS. Like, don't get... I don't know how to dance with a league. They're gonna get him. It's just with the hands on the knee. That nigga back. Right, yeah.

No, I mean... But if anything's gonna bring him back, though, it's just the fact that he's real talented musically, you know? You gotta sit down for a little bit, chill, come the fuck back. Yeah. You gotta ignore some shit, bro.

This internet shit ain't really. That's why you talk about some damn. I see you on the internet. You my boy. If Jack Harlow did what Chris Brown did back in the day, it's over. Jack Harlow, naive. It's over. You get no passes as a white boy.

You are out of here. Sure, Adam. What world do you fucking live in? I'm saying white rappers, the white rapper cancellation standard is very low. Eminem buried his mama in the video. What the fuck are you talking about? No, Eminem said the N-word on multiple rap songs that were leaked to the public 20 years ago. He was trying to be tight.

He was trying to be tight. This Eminem him. He was talking about black bitches with their fucked up hair or some shit. Those lyrics were crazy. But Eminem kind of like disappeared from the public eye for a long time after that before he finally like slowly came back. Everybody, bro. Everybody fuck up, bro. That little grew up around, bro.

You ever seen white folks? He's a, hey, bro. White folks say niggins. I feel him. Does he? Hell yeah. I got them on next week. I got asked him.

Yeah, your white folks live. I ain't going to lie. And I'm feeling that nigger because I'm from the South. Right. We had a white boy named West. He used to say, nigga. But then I remember one time he pissed me up. I'm going to lie, you little white bitch.

I got something for your ass. We were somewhere around the whole gang. I got a cousin named Ali. He's from my head. People like Western and King, like out of their way. Right. Like, you know. White folks, so white folks, don't cut out of my fucking story.

I don't. See, like, you see, you're on reach. And your security too slow. You don't know how to want people dying. So relax. I got my own security too You told him We ain't in Texas

But scary ass Put that gun up and come fight Tirel Now look What was I saying So then Wes got around The black people I like Wes

Did you say Earlier? Even though I was letting See it a little bit Uh huh All right Go to your story Fuck you

No No I was just I was trying to get the same thing Like white folks Could come around you And just be saying The NWard

And you wouldn't give a fuck He didn't Menbers With them I feel him He a member Right And they're like

you know what I'm saying shit he filled him yeah I don't blame he ain't saying but now white people ain't supposed to say nigga though bro I'm gonna stay in my black folks like like if I'm in the room with my potter say like Maxo bitch you tripping bro you lay nigger say nigga I'm blah cool for show but white folks it's a new day and age bro it's white boys it's damn their black from the hood I knew white boys that was like that they be GDs too I don't know what it is with GDs and white boys but white boys can become GDs that's good to know what I'm saying they be like

that like that you know what I'm saying they be like that Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so shit. That's crazy. I feel like he's not seeing. Right. And he's also not like this type of white boy. He's like clearly grown up in that kind of environment to such an extent that he really believes he's that.

You got going on on your platform. They keep a nigga out your mind. Don't say, nigga. You better not say nigga. I don't want the past. I'm going to still arrive for you though, bro. You try to give me the pass. I don't want the pass.

You can hold on to the pass. You can invite me to the cookout. Bro, when you got out to 18 in them, I bet you like these ungrateful niggas. They don't want to shit. Stupid-ass, niggins. I know what someone said, nigger. Dead the narrative. That would be a lot.

Oh, so look, see, rappers, you can learn something. Whenever Adam and somebody posts you and it ain't really to say dead the narrative. Dead the narrative. DT.N. DT.M. My boy. That's our new crew. Okay, I wanted to ask you about this, as long as we get real messy.

So you had a situation in L.A. back in the day. I had you slap that rapper scheme? Slap scheme I couldn't find any YouTube videos about it or anything But it's YouTube video You go watch his own It's like Ouzi Just go type in like maxo scheme and shit like that

But we already resolve that shit You know what I'm saying I fuck with eating wood family niggas You know what I'm saying I fuck with a lot of them niggas Right Like my little brother that was there He ain't wood families

And he fuck with niggas out here But how did this situation play out in the first place I'm walking in That's back when I was on drinking like Zans I had a show He was like I forgot the I think it was like Uno first, me, then Uzi, then Cardi.

That's true. Hell, yeah, so I'm walking in. Then I'm texting Scheme. Scheme, reached out to him, was fucking with my music, but I know Schengin' being a blood nigga with braids, kind of chunky, like, you know what I'm saying? And then, like, when I'm walking up, I see, like a little skinny-ass nigga with dreadlocks,

you know what I'm saying? He right though, or even with security. I'm really, see, I was so intoxicated. I'm supposed to realize, oh, shit, that's skin. What the fuck? Come on. Bro, you good. You know what I fuck with you.

But I'm so irritating and shit. I don't got into it with Toby that more than all that shit. walking in, I'm like, but who is this? I'm like, bro, move, get your bitch ass out the way. You know what I'm saying, shit like that? And I go, I perform. So as I perform, it's Oozie. He coming up.

He's, he, he, Maxo. Shout my boy, Uzi, too. You know what I said? I was just with him. He's like, Maxo, you got into it with scheme. I'm like, oh shit, that scheme? I'm tripping. So that's all, like, you know what I say?

I take that. So I went over there. He's like, nah, blood. Who you calling the bitch? Blood? I'm like, what I'm saying? But I was known for, at Salt By that's how I met Cardi.

Being up, niggins, like, we used to whip ass at that shit in Texas, so our opposite shit was there. So, we was known for whooping ass. But now it's like, what, was it, 2015 now? I'm more, like, solidified. I'm doing shows. I'm not just fucking up the goddamn show.

So, like, I was like, hold on, what you mean? Look, bitch, woo-woo. We're going back and forth. Then one of my homers, like, hey, Maxo got the back end. And then one of the homies like, yeah, he stole him, boom, moo. I ain't even, look, I ain't even touch skin.

don't that they were stump his ass. You know what I'm saying? And so then what? Some Englewood people ended up going to a video shoot or ended up seeing you somewhere? So boom, it was some Englewood niggas, you know what I'm saying? They went in and saying, fuck Max. So it was like, it was some shit across the round too.

Went up being up being a fan, stabbing them some shit. But then, like, I remember Tiny Much you were trying to get on the song with my nigga H-Crown. Then, like, they talked. Then we got some shit overstood. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I fuck with a lot of Englewood niggas not like shit. Rootie.

You know what I'm saying? I went to a party out there in Englewood and shit And that's how I ain't gonna say we bumped heads But it was something like you know what I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying Nika stood on business Like you know what I'm saying cool nigga

We got that shit resolved you feel me Not staying on business like the nigga It was on just like that But like One thing about being the gangster Being the man bro It's your conversation And your word

Because everything I gotta go to If you got to mind Like you know what I'm saying Like a lot of nix Cause a lot of nixing Behind dumb ass shit That you could sit down and talk about Especially when nix having money

Having certain shit Like then like you know what I'm saying at the time, like, regardless of them I said, banging Fallen Park, we, nigga, forever. Now, if I go to L.A. County right now, I can't tell them, nah, I ain't Hoover. I'm for in Park. What the fuck? I got five dudes on my chest, you feel me? So, no matter whether my set being Fordn Park is still banging Hoover,

they're going to look at us like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, like, Inglewood families and Hoover don't got no beef. Right. You know what I'm saying? Foren Park don't got no beef with Inglewood families. Right. That's good. Yeah, that was why it was kind of funny when we were doing that Tony Willow red shit is that it's like, You got somebody from Texas. I got some of water. And then you got a couple guys from L.A.

And it's like, clearly the politics are not the same. They don't work the same way at all. But it's like seeing these people try to make sense of it was just kind of fascinated the people, I think. Right. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. How did you link up with Keglock for that video you guys shot recently? Man, I've been fucking with Keglock for a minute.

Shit, my first time I had met Dolf. I made the nigga at Patchwork. I was with Hood Rich King. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. Shout out of Hurried. He was supposed to do an interview with him many years ago. Yeah, you know, you got that slurred words and shit going too.

Right. But anyways, boom, I met him then. Then, like, shit, he been watching since then. Then, like, when the Rico case happened, he reached out, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, all trappers spoke with each other. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So, fucking with him.

He was there when I was at Icebox and I was copping, like, getting my first Cubans from ropes. When I bought my lambbo and shit like that, when I bought the lamb truck and shit like that, like, brodies always fucked with me. Then I was overseas touring, and I was in Belgium. he was in Belgium, I brought him in Kiglock out. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So I've been fucking with Kiklock.

I was in the strip club. I bumped into, bro. You know what I'm saying? Boom. He's that shit. Let's get in the studio. Got in the studio. I went to Jamaica, came back.

We shot the video. Right. Now, that was dope. That's like, I mean, Keglock, when you think about the last couple years that he's had with the Dolf shit and everything, I mean,

his music, though, is still going crazy. Like, it's really good to see this career. He's streaming like a motherfucker. Yeah. Definitely. I've been tapping in a lot more to some of his newer shit and that's just like, you think about that Dolf shit

is like, I just, I didn't know how long it was going to take before he was able to really get back into career mode after that shit, you know? No, I know, I lost my brother, so I know that's be taking my shit. Yeah. Time and shit, but like shit, that money and plus you got to keep that person legacy alive.

But yeah, fuck all that. Let's go back. You were talking about that Rizzo shit. Remember, you never touched on that. Oh, yeah. Well, I was just talking about the fact that it was funny that they titled the video. As if you had a real beef with sauce.

Nah, that nigga will walk, I poke a walk. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit, there's money getting niggas out the city. Right. Like, I get money, he'd get money. Like, you know what I'm saying? Some of my little niggas over there, some of his little niggas over here. Like, there ain't no motherfucking smoke walking in like that.

You know what I'm saying? Man, Rizzo, we had a fist fight. It is what it is. Shout out Rizzo, let him do his thing. That shit was dope, honestly. Just the fact that you guys had enough respect to each other to get it in like that instead of having to turn in some other shit. When you look at all these young-ass rappers these days,

it seems like there's only one way that they want to solve problems between each other. It was good to see some man and shit like that. A lot of these niggas, they had catch an attempt to murder for they catch your ass whoop. Yeah. I ain't catch it neither.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm a man. Shit like that shit like that. But nowadays you got to, but like, just how like L.A. be pressing niggas. You can't come to Houston pressing old little niggins 17. He's going to switch your ass to fuck down.

Right. Oh, that old bully-ass shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? But niggas respectful, though. So if you that nigga, like, like, you know what I'm saying? like if your name ring bills and certain shit like you know what I'm saying

niggas ain't gonna play with you is a lot of respect you know what I'm saying shit like that but if you're a whole you know what I'm saying you're a pussy pussy to get fucked right you know that this is a fact

bro but I seen Saws Walker fucking on the internet I was on Twitter he's a real only fan superstar man I was on Twitter looking for some goddamn porn and seeing that shit like oh hell now

I doubt like but shit bro getting money doing I ain't gonna lie bro if I go on my phone if I saw the only fans today I don't even got a post an old guy. I don't got make no more content. Right. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that, but I don't

be... Do you think there's a market out there for you to do your thing on OnlyFans? Hell yeah. Really? Hell yeah. I'm just not familiar with what the plus size market is. It ain't the pleasant, bro. Adam, I mean, losing away, Adam. And getting slow, stop playing with me. No, you look great. But I mean... Why don't want me stand up and show these muscles, Adam?

What's wrong with you? If you start OnlyFans, you're going to be disgusted when you realize that all the messages are asking you for jerk off videos and shit. I ain't saying nothing. They don't get on Onlyfans and see me, on this Belisiana with this EB's just putting on your clothes

and I'm charging them off 50K what you talk about just trying on jackets I mean now oh what's the match you can charge the only fans

a month like 50 I don't know honestly 50 or 100 I don't know I'm charging a hundred motherfucking money bitch I've never checked

to see what I'm gonna get them in for a low price and then you get this damn jacket on it's awkward up charge them for like the premium content

right That was a nice jacket. Yeah, a little something. Yeah, it's good. I had on some chrome hard, but I got it dirty eating breakfast. I was going to come crom to the bone on you. Really? Yeah, yeah.

Damn. One time I went to the Chrome Heart store, somebody had to pay $50 for me to get in. Damn. They charged me to walk in. Hit me, bro. I didn't realize what was happening. Hit me, I got you, Adam.

Bro, can I take you shot behind? Listen, bro. I can get you right. Hey, bro, bro, Adam, if you come in here, you let Maxo style you with that persona drip and you got all this damn money and buy you a track, This is turning into a theme because Desto Deb got mad at me from my outfit the other day when I pulled up to the story.

He said my shoes were too weak. So it's turning into a theme that all my cool black friends are telling me that my clothes suck and I got to start dressing better. But I'm going to take this feedback in stride. I'm going to actually, I'm going to start putting more effort in. I'm high as fuck. Yeah. I can tell. All right.

We good? What do the people need to know about? Shit. Max O'Creen got my own record label, signed myself. I'm independent. I'm saying? Masonic Music Global Peson the money gang

Money on whatever You know what I'm saying Persona pack Texas T Texas T I heard him screaming out there Shout out my man Young LB

We got the Lease too But I don't know What they're at right now Oh really I just roll one But yeah I got the The cream leas And all this shit

Hold on right here Oh you got your own Your own brand of leaf Huh This is what we're doing Backwoods got taken out By the fucking The leaf brands

Yeah boom And it's say Texas T on there Cream Leafs we got the persona store size dispensary coming soon in Texas did you write this enhance your smoking ritual with the unparalleled quality of cream leafs bake tobacco raps handpicked from our family reading you white it's cut off the you ripped it so I couldn't read tobacco tobacco rabs handpick from our family farms in Nicaragua's radiant mountain ranges did you just say nigger Nicaragua

Nicar who? And I ain't a really that shit. But yeah, man, everything, you know what I'm saying? Handcrafted. That's a fact. All right. My man, this is the craziest shit I ever seen. That's why he's like Rucci. You didn't hear always hitting the bong? Roochie be hitting the bong? He used to be. I don't know if he still is. I don't know. Free my niggas. All that Maxo Crane, the tape dropping soon. Right. Go get my shit. We keep

like I got right now. I'm a real trap, nigga, baby. I'm so used to balling. All that. Oh, shit. Put him over and gangsters the show. Shout out Brick Baby. Hey, don't Brick baby got a show? Well, he's just on the Tuesday show. Tuesday show? Right. I'll poke with Brick.

We could do something like, you know what I'm saying? Let's do that. You're going to move out here ever or you're stuck in Texas? Nick, I was just out here. Yeah, you're out here, but. No, I mean, like, I just lived out here. How long? I say, what, 2017 or like 2020, 2020, 2021?

What the fuck? I didn't know your eye for that long. Hell yeah. I'm gone, bro. Houston is the new LA, Houston Leit. Is it really? Hell yeah. Hmm.

Maybe I'll have to move. Joe Rogan did it Austin is Austin He started a comedy club It's money out there in Texas Man everything big in Texas man Is Austin all fucked up Are you like Austin?

I fuck with Austin They fuck with me It's changed It doesn't matter what street shit I'd Known for and shit like that Bro Austin is like the hippie

Place The white place Like you know what I'm saying Like the more urban place So I'd be going platinum in Austin I used to stay in Austin like 15 years ago And that shit was gentrified a little bit at the time, but I only go back every like four or five years or whatever.

And whenever I go back, I'm just like, what the fuck? This place has changed. So much so fast. Yeah. Crazy tech money. All right. Max O'Creen, appreciate you. Everybody go turn my man up on Spotify and all services.

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