Maxo Kream on Quitting Lean, The Gay Crip, Crip Mac's Forehead Tattoo & More
00:00No Jumper.Coolest podcast in the world.I don't know.It's probably like the third time that we did an official sit down.My third time.Yeah.And I mean, I had Maxo Cream on this in 2016, maybe 2015.16, Ronette.
00:13Way back.The first one back when the Rapids was on here.Yeah.We're not a hip-hop platform anymore.Hell, yeah.Watch this shit.Oh, okay, good, good.How you live?
00:23Maxo Cream.What's up, man?Two Celsius is in front of them.A blunt.All along.A blunt rolled.that's that Texas tea that's my strainTexas tea
00:31shot my boy LBthat's some Blancojust case you ask me a questionI don't want to answerI get drunk I might answercome back to itCame with a whole bottle of tequila over hereI saw that from you
00:39Really?That's ours?Why don't gotWhy don't gotUmNahoWhat's the other one?Repasito
00:49Why y'all got no ripping here?Who drinking BlancoWhat is that?That's the type of tequila?Yeah yeahThis is that freaky assThis shit takes like hand sanitize himReally?
00:56YeahI'm not like a tequila connoisseurso I couldn't really tell you all that much.Yeah, I saw sipping lean, man.I'd be on a tequila now and it takes his tea.Did you really?How long ago you stopped drinking lean?My partner just had a cup in the car.
01:07I hit it, but I don't buy lean.I got this right here to replace it.Oh, wow.So that's your move now.Yeah, I cut off the wood,piece by piece, put it in that motherfucker like.Wait, do you seriously?You cut chunk?
01:26Yeah.Who guys said?I don't need scissors.I'm from screw.I was thinking that when I looked at it.I'm like, it doesn't look like it's not like a big chunk ofweed in there. So you take the wood and you put in thatmotherfuck like that and smoke. That's how I smoke.
01:36Wait a minute. I was a smoker sometimesthough holding the glass. No,for sure. You're fucked up for evenconceiving of this. Who put you on to this?Me? So back when I was firstlike, like first selling rich,he was easing the muck. But I was selling a drillmy mama house. And I didn't want to smoke on my
01:52droop. I'm like, how can I reserveit? So I put a little piece in the bong and hit it.I'm like, God, damn. I've been addictedto the bong every since then. Wow.It just hits better than the blunt.Yeah, right? See, look, I took this little piece, right?Yeah.Put them up, you know?
02:04You got to clear this whole, though.And I smoke bigger bombs.I really smoked big ones, but I brought this.I'm like, you know, this is going to be the no jump.You brought it on the road?Hell yeah, you want to put it on side B.You know what I'm saying?Maxo Bong, you know?
02:16Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.That's a good part of history right there.What the fuck?Do you think this is a Texas thing at all?No, nobody smoked like this.They called me the white black boy.All right, because when I went to, when I went to South by Southwest in, I think,2015 or 2016, probably, I think I actually seen you perform.
02:33out there back then. But when I was there, I was staying in my boy, Charlie Crummish's house,and we were taking the bong, and we would put, like, a little bit of weed and a bunch oftobacco in there at the same time in the bong and hit that, and they called it a mole,and it would just give you the gnarliest head rush, and you'd be, like, about to pass outsoon after you hit it. But we were doing that the whole time I was there, and it was a punishingexperience.And she gets you paranoid, like, you'll be thinking something, you'll hit that my ass. Now, I'mchilling. Yeah, it's crazy how taking in the same shit, but through a different mechanism can
03:02completely change the way that it feels.Like, look, like, I don't say Adirah is the methamphetamine.It's different between popping atiral and smoking.Like, you know, we do it different, you know what I'm saying?Right.Okay, because we're getting way out into outer space here.But you know how they always say, like, that they had racist guidelines for how theypunished crack users versus Coke users back in the day?
03:25Now I believe it's different.Now I believe it's more equal.But, I mean, when you think about it, most of the Coke heads that you know,I just kind of like going to parties, doing coke, going to the bar, whatever.And most of the crackheads that you know, realistically, they're trying to steal somebody's TV.So should we be taking into account the likelihood of committing crimes in terms of like how badly drugs are sentenced?Because it does seem like if crackheads are like really doing all this crazy shit and most cokeheads seem like they got it under control, maybe those laws are not so even.They shouldn't have no laws on drugs.
04:05You got rape and pedophiles and all kinds of shit.They be getting out early probation like a motherfucker,but then they go to jail, you know what I'm saying,for like some little dope.Look, this is how I said.People that use cocaine, like party use and sip drink,those are exclusive drugs.Don't penalize them folks.
04:22Right.You know what I'm saying?But I ain't going to say, you shouldn't penalize nobody.I ain't going to say no 12 ass shit.But you know what I'm saying?I'm just saying like, if you're going to do that.Because the thing about it,a person that snored coke probably be in the PDD party turned up.
04:32and they put somebody smoking crack and busting windows right somebody sipping lean probably gotCuban link song a Lambo truck and some mosh and somebody's up hearing there's on some othershit you feel me okay but let's say that your life went in the direction where you just kept drinkinglean you're a heavy lean drinker yeah and then one day you find yourself just dead broke and justthe likelihood of you spending a couple hundred dollars on an ounce of lien is just not happeningyou're probably going to end up smoking perks under a bridge you're probably going to end up with afent pack right it depends on me because it's not like you're gonna want to stopgetting up you're just gonna go to a sibling Lee and stop though I can't for me
05:10I can stop doing right no I'm saying but a lot of people I feel like thatlean addiction is just gonna turn into a heroin addiction or a fentanyl addictionor whatever right I mean lean man probably but it's more likely if you do perksright you're gonna start smoking the rocks is it like that's certainly I've seenthat's crazy right you know what I'm saying but you know what they say if you snore theline you're smoking now so the same thing with you know I'm saying peoplesnoring the cold, but teach his on turn up have fun.But I remember being on my business.
05:36The first time I interviewed Shoreline Mafia and I asked O'Gee,I'm like, how do you feel about parents or whatever who would say that you're kind of liketurning kids on to Lean or like you're making kids want to drink Lean?And he just goes, good luck.Like, for real, like Lean is so hard to get that realistically, and it's so expensivethat you kind of don't have to worry about your average kid getting into it, right?Y'all fucked it up.That's some Texas shit.
05:58You know, back in the day, we used to call Lean Texas Tea, which is my motherfuckbrand right son of peck made sure y'all get this in the dispensress but yeah it wastexas t then it started getting the bills you can't blame oh jes you got like me yeah dashcar the whole fettie movement you got mother fucking loane dj screw everybody like you know what i'msaying it's something dude that's like smoking weed who you're gonna blame dr jay how much youwere spending for lean back in the day josh how much i'll spend on about two pints a weekwhat's up josh how you're doing kcc josh yeah but um yeah yeah likeI say like early days back when lines was like $50 probably like about two pines
06:38but like 2,000 like so like a thousand each but then they got to a point where I was buying liketwo and a half three pints you know what I'm saying in a week they was going to anywhere between25 and three but you came in kind of on the tail end of that shit too though because I remember likeben baller for instance just showing me pictures from back in the day with him just having likeabsolute like stacks of activists like to the ceiling and he said that the bottles withfor like $100 at that time.Thanks, but, yeah, he did that,but I think I got the most infamous picture of me sitting down
07:09with the trash bag full of act paints.I probably had like 36 act paints on me, for real, for real.What was the story of that day?Drink.Just a whole lot of drink.Right.Because I remember when we went on tour in about 2018, I believe,me, you, Trill Sammy.
07:27It was pretty crazy.I was on the tour for whatever reason.I remember, like, observing your lifestyleand just slowly kind of starting to realize,Oh man, this guy, he might kind of have a problem because you were getting loaded on that tour.Nah, for sure.I was hiding the money.But you were, you were like handling it.
07:43Like, you're definitely a G-about.It's not like you're falling out and shit.But that was just times where I kind of started to realize, like, how much different stuff was going into your body.And I was like, oh, yeah, he might not be in a healthy place right now.Nah, back in the day, I used to be on.Lean Adderall, lean Molly, lean Zanz, shit like that.But now if you look now, I'm in the gym, healthy.Really?
08:06Working night, but I lost away.You ain't tell a little.No, yeah, you look good.Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.Yeah, okay, you're right.I ain't seen you in real life in a couple of years, but I see online all the time.So, like I said, I didn't notice.Yeah, yeah.
08:18But so, okay, what, what, you're still hitting the blunts in the bong somehow.The craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.What else?The liquor's gone?I drink occasionally.Like when I go to the club and I might have, like, a drink,but I ain't just waking up.I know got there 40 ounce.
08:36Okay.No shit like that.You know what I'm saying?I'd be like a little 42 in the house, something like that,but I ain't just drinking every day like that.Right.Just the idea of waking up and drinking a 40 hurts my stomach.Weed and water.
08:48Yeah.And you actually stay in the gym too?Hell yeah.How often?How many days a week?Mondays I do upper body.Uh-huh.Then Tuesdays I do legs and upper body.
08:56I try to do upper body like three to four times a week.And you have a trainer?Hell yeah.How did you find him?Uh, dude Toby.You seen Toby recently?No.Where the hell's Toby?
09:05Man, that nigga's son, well, he probably pulled him up, but shit.Really?Hell yeah, he ain't got, like, he was getting in the gym and shit like that.So all that, I just started getting in the gym.Plus, when my brother died, you know what I'm saying?Like, my dude, he was real on, like some gym.I ain't give a damn about that shit.You know what I'm saying?
09:18I ain't needed to get no bitches.Yeah, because you're the rapper and you're getting to get bitches either way.But all the normal people have to be in shape and shit.If you have a six-pack, that brings you, like, as close to being able to get bitches like a rapper without being a rapper.My girls aren't one on any one.You don't think?Nah, they be telling me, don't lose weight.Like, ooh, like, you know what I said?
09:36Don't lose your belly.Like, I don't know.I'd be like, bad niggas, we're taking over.Look at Rawaway, me, goddamn, Mexican O.T.There's some truth to that.But at the same time, think about how many girls you don't even end up talking tobecause they're just thinking about how they want hot, chiseled men.I can still get, once I was springing this for son on is over with.
09:54Right, yeah.Yeah, yeah.No, I don't know.I've been going my whole life, just kind of getting by being a fag guy,and I was just like he'd struggling to just get more into the, like, in shape level.Could you ever see yourself like fully ripped bodybuilder status?Give me to the summertime, you would see.Really?
10:11I've been in there like, yeah, I like lifting.It's like competitive, you know what I'm saying?Shit like that.Then I've been in there with my niggins,so we were trying to see who's stronger.Right.You know what I'm saying, motivate each other.You are getting to the age where it wouldn't be unreasonable for you to get on testosterone,
10:23and then you could look like a fucking monster.I don't want to take nothing extra.You know, I'm Nigerian.I got it.You are Nigerian, huh?Nah, yeah.You know what tribe?Yeah, I'm Igbo.
10:33Okay.I don't really know any of them, but whenever I mean a Nigerian person, I'm like, what's up?Nah, but show you guys sound like you educated.Like, you know something.You know, I went to Cape Town before, but I don't know if I'm ready for Nigeria.It's going down.Yeah?It's going down.
10:47I don't know what y'all think.Ain't know them lying tigers and bears and shit like that.I mean, you go in the woods.Yeah, but it's a city is beautiful.I'm just watching.Afro beats is number one.You know what I'm saying everywhere?Shout my boy, burner boy.
10:59You know what I'm saying?You're about to become an Afro beat artist?I got some Afro beat shit.Really, really?Hell yeah, I got some shit like that.How'd you get into that mentality?Who gave you that idea?Shit, Burn a boy.
11:09I was with him.We just went to Jamaica when they,he shot the Taliban's video with Barra Maasad, the remix.Yeah, I was out.I'm in the video and shit,but I was out there with him just tugging.Then I'm like, yeah, let me get back to my roots.Because I feel like I'm versatile.
11:21They ain't nothing I can do.Yeah, I mean, that's one weird thing about you.Like, how the fuck do you make all these fans people love you?Like, Burner Boy, like you've always been like that.Like, Uzi just meets you and it's just boom.He just loves you.Who else?Like Tyler.
11:33Tyler, just for some reason, just looking at you like you're just the guy who's, he just wants that energy.Nah, facts, facts.But where the burner boy would come from?That's kind of random.Man, just being Nigerian.You know what I'm saying?Just being Nigerian.Then, like, I told him, like, because my mom, she's American.
11:48My daddy, he's Nigerian.So, like, you know, just get to my coaching more.I ain't really messing my Nigerian side because when my daddy was catching his cases, my aunt snitched on him.But then my aunt, daughter called me, like, she didn't snitch.And woo, woo, we was going to sue you for, um, what is called?like defamation or something like that.I didn't know it was some bullshit.You know what I'm saying?
12:07I don't really want to get into it, but yeah.Wow, that's crazy.Okay.So how's life like that besides, you know,we've determined that you're getting in shape.What else is going on in the life of Max O Cream?Like, you've been moving around and traveling,or you've been kind of posted in the crib?
12:21Man, I've been, I got Saturday on a strip club.Really?Air 29.Yeah.Turner.That's the best club, and he used to not being that much.But I've been in the studio.So I've been working, working on my next tape.
12:32I just did Camp LongnogYesterdayCrazy, rocked them upRightRocked that's what I doThat rock crowdsHow the fuck is there another artistName Maxo on the bill
12:42You see himRight above you tooThey put him one line above you on the billAnd I'm likeNow he was not one lineHe went on thisSo lookI don't miss it a motherfucker
12:51You can go lookLookYou go lookLook yeah go lookBecause he went on SaturdayAt like noonAnd I went on God damn SundayAt like three
13:00But y' y'all really seeHe's gonna be twoBut yeahYou know, I got pop, yeah, like at three something.To be fair, I went and I listened to one of his songs just to see who this guy was.And he does have, like, he might not know who Max O'Creme is because he's like a total nerd rap.I read it to his manager or whatever, but he was a producer, though.I heard not bro putting in work.
13:19I've been hearing his name.Okay.But it's like, you got Fredo Bang, Fredo Santana, Bankro, Freddy Chaboardie.I ain't worry about no name.My streams and shit do what they do regardless.That's true.And it is Cream Click.Right. You know that.
13:32No, it's big persona now.Oh, okay.Which is the brand, too.While we're done with Cream Click, that's too street related?Nah, I mean, shit.Yeah, it's for the, because this ain't no damn street shit.I got it, you know, R.P. Fredo.I got there on the back.
13:46Oh, shit.We really started that shit together.Me, him, cable boy, and my brother Madoo.Right.And when Madu passed, that's when I started pushing the persona shit most seriously.With the clothing brand, I got to collab with Duncy.You know what I said?We got the new era hats.
14:01All that.I've seen you doing the pop-ups and the meet and greets and all that kind of shitand just having crazy-ass lines and stuff.The communities behind you, you feel like?Hell, yeah, but they don't just be, yeah, like in Houston, for shit show, they pique with us.You know what I'm saying?B pulled up, he was like, shit, the persona line looked like Trillburgers.Yeah, I see him.
14:18B. came through.That's a good show of support.But, yeah, but even, like, have my show is, like, I still maxo cream merchant.I was like, I'm going to bring the brand because they'd be wanting the brand.You know what I'm saying?The persona.So, shit, I bring that, that shit go crazy, you know?Yeah, I mean with a brand
14:32Like if you're an artist and you create a brandIn theory you know you could get to the point where people don'tNecessarily want to wear your merch but they're open-minded to the brand itselfSo it's definitely a longer shelf life on that kind of thingOkay, but so you play can't flogna this yearWhere did that relationship with Tyler come from in the first place?How did you guys actually become cool?I was at Yam's Day
14:56Performing I ran into that nigga on TylerWee's and Rocky on dressing room and shitHe's just cracking jokes on everybody.I'm laughing.You know what I'm saying?Cracking gay jokes at Rocky, Rocky.Yo, Tyler, shut up.I'm trying to shut them.
15:06Woo.You know what I'm saying?Shit like that again, too I'm laughing.Then, like, I'm walking out.Then, you know what I'm saying?We started chopping it up.And he said, he told me that when he heard my album,he was with Rick Rubin in London.
15:20And he played it for him.You know what I'm saying?Shit like that.So I ain't bet.So let's link up.You know what I'm saying?Ooh, get some music in.Then I came to L.A.,
15:28we linked up.And then, bro, we got something.much shit.Really?Hell yeah.Like, it's a lot of shit that, like, we damngot a tape, but I ain't going to just drop itas a tape, you know, he's an artist, I'm an artist,
15:38so we got to sit down and pick everything through,but hell yeah, we got trackstogether, tracks that he just producedand I wrapped on, a lot of them.So you guys just met and became, like, friends real fast?It was cool, yeah, plus I ain't gonna lie.I was a fan of Tyler before.Like, remember how I told you?
15:52I was smoking out the bong and shit.Right.So shit, I ain't gonna say how we got it.Just know that I just got a MacBook.You know what I'm saying?So she stole a backbook?I ain't never say no shit on the backbook?Okay.
16:04Nah, somebody just gave it to me.Okay.They damn they just gave it to me.Well, when you're a rapper, people just bring you gifts.Hell yeah, I don't know what it was.He gave me a laptop of some other shit.Okay.I'm on the laptop, you feel me?
16:16I'm like, bro, let me see what the hellthis damn all-feiture shit is.I start jamming that shit.I'm like, what the hell wrong with this man?I'm listening to the, you know what I'm saying?But then, like, I saw jamming him and Earllike they were playing shit.I feel like it was a lot of like spired by like clips big L Nause shit like that
16:33just diving in the music you know what I'm saying so I've been with Tyler for a minuteright on the music side like you know so when you guys start hanging out like whatkind of conversations are you having because it's just kind of hard for me to imagine likeyou guys just meeting and having that connection but it's kind of fascinating that it workedlike that night it's like she every time with Tyler we'd be in the studio some kicking itthat niggum be flexing y' I don't know like that's all the big persona shit came me youwatched the video he's on custom bin ball of pieces blue diamonds Louis trunks and then we gotthis shit this back when I was signed the RCA I'm I'm independent now but like nigga we got this
17:07shit cleared right like the whole Louis Vuitton shit like niggins don't get this shit clearI think Virgil clear that shit before he died you feel me but hell yeah like that niggabe showing me like archive shit nigga blue diamonds different diamonds and shit putting it on likesome etiquette different type of shit so he just has like insane amounts of drip and diamonds andshit, but that's crazy because I feel likethe average person or the average rapperhas access to that kind of shit would be puttingit all over social media and he
17:35just doesn't really. He's very, very tasteful about it.When you really like that, you're reallyrich. You don't go about that shit.Right. But like, for certain the artists,you know what I said, when you buy the chain, you buy the watch and shit,you start popping that shit tolike, like, but when you got fans like us, don't know why kidsdon't care about Maxo Cream and no chains and shit, they want
17:53to see me jump up and down on stageMarch pit with my shirt off. Really?That's it.That's what your audience wants from you at this point.Yeah.Shit.They don't give a damn about that shit.That's all I know I'm not really rich because the only reason I can imagine ever
18:06spending a bunch of money on clothes or on diamonds or whatever is just to flex it on social media.Bro, you're rich.What the hell are you talking about?Yeah, but I'm still like so cheap in my brain.How long?You got only fans and you got this shit.Yeah, I got a few.You're rich.
18:21Go buy something.Hell wrong with you.In my mind, I'm plotting to make a grand exit at,Man, I never seen a motherfucker, I never seen the bank chase a hearse.You can put us when she gets him in the business, but they'll live your life.Ah, but there's, there's going to be a day where I just vanish from the public eye,and I just take off, and I'm just like hanging out on the beach.And people who live on that beach are going to be like, damn, that's crazy.
18:44Adam 22 just lives on this beach now.And I'm going to just be gone.Not grinding YouTube content.No, Tupac is dead.But that sort of thing.Like, yeah.No, that would be good, though, if I made it a secret.great.
18:58No, thanks.If nobody knew and I fucking was able to justlike pull the wool over everybody's eyes,that's a great idea right there.So, okay,um,there's a lot of different ways we could go with this.Oh yeah,
19:09but I wanted to finish on the Tyler thing.What's up?You mentioned making gay jokes around him.Now, I don't know if he's ever even spoken on it.Hold on.You said, I mentioned making gay jokes.Oh, no. Rocky was making gay jokes.No, he made gay jokes towards Rocky.
19:22Rocky was getting on his ass.Oh, okay.You think Tyler actually dated Jaden Smith,Or was Jaden Smith trawling when he said that?I don't know, bro.I was just with Jaden yesterday.Really?Hell yeah.
19:34With Tyler?We was at the carnival where I seen him walking with a girl.These niggas me were girls, bro.I don't know.What y'all be like, you know what I'm saying?They're like gay for clout and then they have sex with women on the back end?I don't know if they gay like that, bro.I don't know how gay them niggas is, bro.
19:50They don't play with me like that.I ain't like, Tyler be making gay jokes.I don't know.But like, Jayton like shit, he'd be on more like he.respect to art the craft type shit likeI let people be who the fuckthey want to be whatever GPS they ownto get to their end at the point. Right. Let them
20:04do them. Yeah but see I feel like that'sjust a survival mechanism for youbecause you are like a megastreet dude who knows how to playwhite people games. Right.Right? Like you know that. That'slike the key to his success.Is that white people love a black
20:20dude who actually is like smartand will actually likekind of like fitin with them to the extent that they can enjoyhis presence, but then at the same time, theyrealize, like, oh, no, he's like a realgangster-ass dude from Texas.Like, I feel like you, that's like a big
20:36key to, like, why you've been able to be around so longis that you're able to play thatgame. Nah, for sure so. Hit the ball.But look, I do this too, though.If I hit that, then the rest of thisis going to be slow motion. I mean,I'm kind of down.We got to hit this Texas
20:52Tee, let them know. Yeah.Nah, for shit, so.Wait.Is this still a hit last?Yeah, yeah, that's still a hit.This is still a hit, love.Ah, all right.Adam hitting the maxo bone.
21:05I don't know, like, how much of this shit I'm going to be able to do here.What, do I put my finger over?What hole?There ain't a hole.There's a bone.Man, I should have bought one of the real.Got it, yeah, yeah.Hey, I don't want it no more.
21:19You breathe another like that.Not let it rip, man.Oh, what you're doing at home?I can immediately tell.I can immediately tell.I breathed on it.I breathed on it.too much.
21:39Nah,you're having theseright on myball.God damn it.Can we get somelight saw wipes or somethingshit?
21:52Because he wasn't feelingthe way I breathed on that.No, fine,kill it.You know what I'm saying?If you ever want something dead,just put the line to their ass.Oh, man.
22:01See, I love interviewingpeople that I interviewedlike mad times and known for mad yearsbecause like I had Sider baby in here tooand I was just,I was able to be my true,goofy-ass self.Something about it.
22:11Adam, you show listen, bro.I don't care what nobody said about Adam.You showed me so much love.I remember he was on the Joe Button shit.And then he'll like, you have Maxo Cream.He's a big artist and legend.They're like, no, he's local.I don't lie.
22:22Joe Button knows all love, but who the fuck is local?Did you see my camp vlog in our performance?Do you know how many niggas do Coachella?You know how the nigs be rap about 100K for a show?I got a hundred K for a show before.Do these nigs get that shit?I know because they're talking about.Did you see my tour with suicide boys?
22:38Arenas.They're talking about.You as if my only interest in youcould just be like, oh, he's a criminal,a gang member. He's, he had a recodecase, yada, yada, and I'm like, I mean, Adam,they don't know. Before all that.About the no jumper tour, I mean, I was
22:51like, little pump and all of them these before they blew up.I ain't do that one, but I did the true of Sammy one.Yeah.Because I think I ended up going on tour with, like,Danny Brown or some shit.So, like, you know what I'm saying?I went to that tour as well, yeah.Exactly.
23:02Been doing this.Didn't I be doing this shit over a decade. I'm blessed.I see, niggas come and go.Right.I'm still here.I'm still getting booked.I'm still doing Lollapalooza, motherfucking Coachella,my tours and shit like that.
23:12I'm blessed.So shout to all my white fans.Do you feel like you're kind of relying on the white fansor what's your relationship with them?I'm, whittling them.That's my core.A lot of people don't have a core.That's my core.
23:23It's whites, Hispanics, blacks, you know what I'm saying?Shit like that.White females, black females.Since I did it's something with Megan, you know what I'm saying?Oh, yeah, you did do that.That's crazy.But, okay, does that govern what direction?you want to take your music in sometimes
23:39because if you go do a songwith an artist who has a white-ass fan baselike a Danny Brown or a JPEG Mafiaor a Tyler or whatever, does thatspeak to like what you want to dowhereas I feel like maybe you're somebody who's morecomfortable doing a song with thewhat's his name, NFL Bo, Cartel dude.
23:55You were just on the phone with like these dudeswho are really like street dudes from Texas and stuff.Like which side do you prefer to go with?Shit.They don't matter.You know what I'm saying?Like a lot of street dudes,Like when I get on the track with them, it gets them out light.
24:09You know what I'm saying?Inside the other world and shit.Then like, I like making music.And it's not about, like, you know what I'm saying?It's like if I put the music and if I put the song.I got hella features that never came out.You know what I'm saying?Plus, I like, like, like, shit.
24:24I like getting on weird beats doing like, you know what I'm saying?Like a little bit of little shit.So I've been working a lot with myself, like dropping shit.Like, you know what I'm saying?Just on my own kind of shit.But I like working with who fuck with me.You know what I'm saying?paper a feature in my life. Right.
24:38Yeah, and it's kind of crazy seeing you doing the shit with BFB the Pac-Man, too.How did you guys get tapped in?I'm going to interview telling people that he's my cousin saying shit, but he knows I lookbetter.See, I'm the sexy fat nigga.That's a FYBJ main trick.That's what he's doing, running around, telling everybody his little Reese's cousin for someYouTube titles.
24:56I don't know.I didn't see that.I got to go do my research.You know what I'm saying?I got to do my research on that one.Definitely.But, I mean, was it weird being around BFB the Pac-Man?and having him be the fat guy in the room.
25:09He's, like, dominating you in that category now.There's a lot of these little fat motherfuck popping up, bro.Biggest the plug.Right.Fat asses.He's fat as fuck.Yeah, he's what's right.For sure.
25:18Meskin O.T.Mm.Then, I thought I was the fat handsome.These, these be just thinking Mexican O.T.Hansel.What the fuck?Mm.Who else?
25:27A B.B.B.The Pac Man.Right.It's a lot of fat rappers.Yeah.Most of rappers are popping right now fat.Do you feel like you're encouraging obesity through your public persona?
25:36Hell now, I'm working night.Hell, where?But all these rappers are you, like, I don't like fat people.Think about it.People get on Lizzo's ass and say that she's encouraging all these girls to becomelard asses, but nobody says that about fucking Rodway, right?Man, Rodway, actually, like, shit, he came, he put it to my house and bought some persona shit.Really?
25:55He wasn't that big, you know what I'm saying?He's trying to lose something.But, bro, when you fat and you young, bro, you're just going to fat it out.You ain't going to really start working out until you get you, like your early 30s like me.You feel me and shit like that?I ain't about being fat.Right.What made you start to care?
26:11Well, my shit, my daughter.I'm like, bro, I don't want to be able to like, you know,I see, everybody knows Maxo got them hands whoo.I don't want to be too old.Then I can't defend for my daughter.Like, you know what I'm a kid.I'm a woman who are my niggas drop me?Right.
26:22And I'm up 45 years old and I'm out of shape of something.Hell, nah, I'm for these young niggas.Did you ever go to the doctor and have it just be like a doctor's visitthat was just all doom and gloom where they were just like,yeah, man, you got to lose some weight.Hell now.Really?I ain't pre-diabetic.
26:38I ain't diabetic.I don't got high blood.I can't even say blood.What the fuck?Holy shit.They've never told you a high blood pressure, none of that shit.Hell not.So you just kind of got in front of it before it became.
26:52My dad, so like my dad, like, you know, Papa Maxo, he's sick right now.Like, you know, he doesn't have strokes.He had heart attacks, right?Mow.They were mild, but shit, you know, still like that kind of shit.So, you know what I'm saying?Like they run on my dad's side.Right.
27:07Like bad.Like, you know what I'm saying?My mama healthy is hell.So maybe I get that from her, but I'm like, shit.Me being a fat, black American man, especially with a beard.A Texan.A Texan.Yeah.
27:17Everything's bigger than Texas.Including the portions.Not a dick joke.Right.When you're looking at the camera right that far.Nah, for sure, though.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, bro, I don't want to have high blood pressure and just be.
27:30Like, I was tired of just being like super fat.I'm like, shit.Let me go work.I start running.I'm athletic as hell.If you ever see me do anything, who, fight, jump off stage and, like, you know what I'm saying?Rock out crowds and shit like that.I was like, you know, just getting the shape to see where it go.
27:46It's also just the way of life out there in Texas, though, right?I've been out there and I'm just looking at postmates and Uber Eats, and it's just like so much more barbecue, so much more mac and cheese, so much more like...Takes mix and all that.Meanwhile, out here, there's a lot of salad options.Salad and beef, bro.That's why I was losing weight when I was in L.A.Yeah?hungry as hell right they gotta go to fucking do they gotta go to south central
28:08inglewood and shit to east side grain his kitchen and shit I mean we got the samefast food that everybody got I'm gonna want this shit nigga hey look at you crazy as hellwe're eating fast food and um Los Angeles Nizia can broke ass intern that they thinkthey're famous because they know somebody but ew you eat McDonald's yuck hell yeahat two o'clock McDonald's the best thing on motherfucking earth but I don't eat thisshow all the time I walk through this office and see people eating the McDonald'sand Jersey mics and all this shitand I'm silently judging them in my head
28:38but I don't say anything because I can'tI don't want to alienate myself from my workersYeah well you know I'm fat so you know when I'm out hereI like the steakhousesReally?You know what I'm saying I folk with like a umThey got some shitI ain't about to get my drops
28:50I was at Masteros on SaturdayI was about to get my dropsI ain't tell you how motherfuckers why I eat butYou hit Maastros?Hell yeahYeah that's a good oneHell yeahMassaro's good
29:00Um Boa okayBoa's all right yeahWe spent my girl'sspent $5,300 to Masters the other day.What the hell she got?It was like 20 people.Oh, for 20 people, that's decent.It still seemed like a lot.
29:1220 people on a birthday could be $1,200, something like that, you know.Yeah, I guess everyone's drinking.That's when it really gets a little rough.Yeah, see, you got to sneak your own bottle in, bro.Listen, bro.I got money in, but I'm cheap, too, bro.Come on, you got to be real, is it?That's a good move, right there.
29:25That's why I've been up for so long.You got to sneak that whole in, you know what I'm saying?Teller it coming with, like, the little domier duff with the whole big and cheap.WowYou know what I'm sayingShe's comingWith that bitchBoom
29:35That's not a bad ideaOh,Poe up, you knowAre you really cheapthoughYou always have likeI'm cheap as fuckYou got like
29:40Five chains onYou areYeahNah for sureLike I go spend onSome Chromehard jeansYeahBut then when it
29:49Come to some flightsI'm likeHold on broWe're taking these flightsRightNot no spiritOkayMaybe American
29:54Or something likeYeahI go shoppingLike I go dropA 20 ball25 ballButWe're doing the PJ
30:00Like hold onManWe ain't just doingThe PJ todayYou don'tI mean weird books when I'm flying economy for sure.I don't give a fuck.Yeah, I don't give a fuck.
30:08I blew the day.Like the fight come here,they ain't had no down first class.I'm like,fuck,I just jump in the back.Right.A lot of times they don't even have first class.
30:14Right,that should be gone.But also,like,if it's $2,000 to fly like a couple hours,like I just don't care.It's a fucking chair.$2,000.
30:22Sometimes.Man,I put them holes early.That's too goddamn much.Bro, you go overseas?All of a sudden,it's supposed to be like $10,yeah,
30:30yeah, yeah,The first class up.To go to Nigeria is going to be like 10 bands.Really?But that's Nigeria, though.It's worth it.Yeah, imagine just how many people are flexingin the first class section of that?
30:40You already know, we're probably something like,Baca Rock and motherfucking goddamn Jolofrice.Yeah, you're going to meet some serious hitters in the first class on the way there.Yeah, especially because I don't lie, I'm just going to say it, bro.Like, Nigeria just be having money.Right.Okay.Yo, so I facetimed you the other day when we were talking about Tony Wilrich.
30:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.Has that saga really takes it?in Texas by storm.Is he the talk of the town?Hell,there ain't nobody worried about him in Houston.On my block, hell now.Because you made that clear.
31:07That's Dallas,Dallas, Florida,that's some other shit over there.Yeah,that's some weird shitthat O.G. Percy co-signed in.I fuck OG Percy,but he said some shit.
31:17Remember when like that little Rico shitI had to go back in real quick?Yeah.They were trying to say that like,because I linked up with himor something, I got hot.Ligger hell the fuck no.Really?
31:26Hell no.My case is on money on.Get money.Not no old.You know what I'm saying.Shit like that.I don't know what the niggas on.But with that dude, I don't got nothing to do with that.
31:37I don't know nothing about that.You know what I'm saying?Shit, I ain't have nothing to do with that.That's some Dallas-Fort war shit.But there's some real niggas in Dallas and Fort War.So you can't just put that on them.You know what I'm saying?There's a lot of real crip niggas out there.
31:49You know what I'm saying?Real loks.But see, we got like a different version of you real quick right there.Because when you were talking about Jaden Smith and whoever,it's like you're very, very open-minded.It's all the gay shit.And then as soon as you start talking about some street shit,we get a little bit of a different perspective.
32:02You're fucking right.Because hey, man, he got drug the line somewhere, bro.In the game, like, you know what I'm saying?Like, you can't speak for nann.Niggas go to jail and they be this and that.But shit, there ain't nobody playing boyantly.Right.Just doing that shit where I'm from.
32:13You know what I'm saying?Hell not.So you could kind of like accept a gay crib if it was more,if he was less out there with it,less making it a thing, less doing interviews,talk about it type of shit.Man, I retired all my game banging shit,so I don't got to accept nothing.
32:27when I was like, you know what I'm sayingfull-bledged gang banging and doing all that shitit wasn't none of thatThey ain't joining my shitWait, so when did you retire your gangbain shit?Shit, nigga, I retired that shit I'd sayWhen I signed my deal for realYour first deal?
32:46First deal.It was with RCA?Hell yeahOkay, and you just decidedYou wanted to move different?I would assume that it would have been around the time of the recordWhen you rappingAnd you're on the road
32:56then I was getting so much money, bro.Like, even then, like, I'm going to focus on trapping.You know what I'm saying?And I'm not incriminating myself.I go look this shit up.Right.You know what I'm saying?All that shit.
33:05Beat the charges.Yeah, yeah.But, like, I was more fascinated with, like, getting money.Like, I wasn't on the block active every day, press the niggas and shit like that.Then I was getting loved.Like, cring click out everything.BDs, GDs, bloods, crips.Like, you know what I'm saying?
33:21Like, like, niggas be trying to go off of Cali's shit.Like, you know, all that shit in Cali.That shit cool, but we got our own politics and shit in Houston.Right.That niggas deal with and that niggas do.Like, you know what I'm saying?So, all shit is different, but back to Tony, the Tony Real Rich dude, no.It's not good.
33:40It's not happening.He already retired, he dropped his flag.Be like that.So you agree with him making that decision?Yeah.Leave that shit alone.Go rap.Especially if you got a buzz and you doing your thing, go rap, don't.
33:55Beating to that shit.And he's going to be trying you and all kinds of shit.Right.Why don't bring it to yourself?Then you didn't even know none of the shit.Right.Well, I interviewed half-pint films the other day, too.And he basically said that Tony Willrich has just been doing whatever to go viral for as long as he known him.
34:10So that that shit didn't really surprise him that much.But also, like, he's just not, it's not like he was ever some super serious gang dude.He's just from an area or whatever and decided to roll with it.I don't know how exactly OG Percy got wrapped up in that.But, yeah, I don't know.It's just funny to be that when it comes.comes to the celebrities is one attitude and when it comes to anyone kind of associated withthe street stuff do you think you'll ever get past that or is that just you say what he needs to be
34:39like the the fact that you view street dudes being gay differently than like celebrities yeah yeah yeahbecause the streets and the celebrity shit is totally different that's why I say I left that shitalone you don't see me on no corner banging for sure on my videos I go back to my block right but when yousee me on my block I'm doing giveawaysLike, you know what I'm saying?Like, and I'm known for having the most infamous videos with guns and all that shit.Right.But that shit is just like, I'm getting older.
35:06I'm pushing a different agenda.Like, shit, I don't want a whole bunch of shooters.I don't need them.You know what I'm saying?Like, shit like that.I was getting money.Like, you get money, you want to pop this shit.You know what I'm saying?
35:20Jewel and cars, clothes and shit like that on that kind of shit, I'm going to fuck with you.But that super old man died, like, these nigs ain't never caught no cases.Right.These niggas ain't never fought no murder case.You niggas ain't ever lost no homies for real.Everybody lose homies, though.But, like, you know what I'm saying?They ain't really go through the shit.
35:35Right.Like, I seen it, bro.During the SoundCloud era, I was the only nigga really trapping.Niggins just to come to my shit.Like, I'm like, R.P.J. Staschville though, but he came to my shit.He niggas seen a K-pack of Zanz.It was like, oh.Like, a lot of these niggas.
35:48Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, I really know what's going on with this rap shit.Like, you good and you're tempted, man.Get your money.A thousand Zans.A K-pack is a thousand, I'm assuming.Yeah, and there's only one.What the second day the home.
35:59But yeah.That's old school shit.Yeah, but no, for sure.When I was reading up on your RICO from back in the day,that was one thing they said is that when you guys were apprehended or whatever,they found like 2,000 Zanz.That's what they say.I beat it.
36:12They say a lot of shit.Was that, like, I don't know, like speaking.Okay, so the reason why that RICO allegedly came down,there's a video from, I believe, Trapp Geek,that's called Hoover, the music video that took down a tech.This block and it has like four million views and it basically talks about thatmusic video which had a shitload of guns in it and everything and obviously it's likeGang content because the song's called Hoover but they basically draw the line between
36:38that and the Rico and say that that's basically like how that ended up coming about isit weird to have that kind of documentary out there about you and is that shit accurate thatshit is not accurate so it's a nigga named Sadiq he's a fucking snitch you know what I'm sayingthis nigga was motherfucking goddamn he bought a car he was like a binswap or something. You know what I'm saying?And then why he did that,the police saw him serving two pounds.You know what I'm saying? So they had a helicopter
37:02outside for the car and they caught this niggaserving. And then, nigga, he wentand, like, he was on his own shit. You know what I'm saying? Hewent and they started making up false accusationson the whole gang, man.Really? Dude. Dude.But yeah, man, this is making a falseaccusations of all this shit, bro.
37:18That nigga snitched on his baby mama, his little brother.Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? He wasjust, I ain't going to say snitch because snitch mean that you'retelling somebody did a crime.He was just lying on people.And you just, you beat it.Like, how long was this a pain in your ass for?I caught it. And so I was on tour with Danny Brown.
37:33I had like, shit, 90K cash, popped in like it was half a meal.I had like 90K, you know what I'm saying?Been touring, selling merch and shit like that.I was on tour.Like, you know what I'm saying?Traveling went to the West Coast.Then, like, when I came, came home, I pulled up.You know what I'm saying?
37:51my mama gave me a call she said to my own little brother Josh she's like the police just came in here and grabbed them I don't know what the fuck going I'm like what the hell he got going on I'm like I'm like let me know the bun I'm gonna see what's up but why I'm pulling in I see like three HPD cars like you ever seen D like I'm starting like motherfucker DMX and belly like he pulled up and as long as that's at his shit that's how it was to me so I pulled down they got me fucked up I ain't going so boom you know what I'm saying I hit up my lawyerPut the returning in and shit like that.Start seeing what's up with buns and shit.But I had a show in Houston.So I like, fuck it.I'm just going to the show.I went to the show.And then my girlfriend at the time,
38:33I about chopped up with her real quick,but my dumb ass walked outside.As soon as I walked outside,I tried to run back.And one of the warehouse live people,stop me.I'm like, you motherfucker.I seen a cop car come this way.
38:43A car car come this way.So I'll start walking.I passed up a cop.They thought that somebody else was me.You know what I'm saying?But then when I got to,to like to watch my car, they pointed me out.You know what I'm saying?
38:54Then they pointed me out.Then they had showed me a picture of my boy.You know what I'm saying?They're like, you know him?I'm like, hell now what the fuck is this?You know what I'm saying?Then they brought me in from the show.Did it feel like you were kind of being targeted as the famous guy out of
39:08Hell the fuck, yes.Right.Hell yeah, they targeted me.Because when it's in the news and shit.That was like one of the first state RICO's, you know, because RICO's used to comea federal level.Right.You know what I'm saying?
39:18One of the state Ricos, yeah.But you know what I'm saying?Shit like that.Now they're throwing them holes all over Florida.Like everybody catching the motherfuckers.Even thug shit is a state rico.Right, yeah.Like, you know what I'm saying?
39:27Then I just feel like I don't like speaking on shit.But I feel like Thug gonna beat it.Cause niggas is a state rico.Nick, if you really, what they said was 15 murders involved or some shit like that?If they had that shit, they had that shit.Right.So I just feel like he'd beat it.Damn, that's crazy.
39:41But so did that mark an important change in your life when that shit happenedwhere you kind of realized that you needed to maybe clean your act up a little bit?Yeah, because I was independent and all like, fuck her label.You know what I'm saying?But once that shit happened, you know what I'm saying?They hit us with money laundry, $500,000 better, conspiracy of 2,000 pounds.Then, like, you know what I'm saying?And then organized crime.
40:07So they hit us with all them.So I'm like money laundry.Now, I make money.Like, this ain't no dope money.Like I stream, I tour.I do shows, merch, all that.You know what I'm saying?It's all like, fuck it.
40:16I just signed a deal.Right.Damn.It was a good deal, though.Don't get me wrong.I'm out the deal.I recouped, some major label deal,and I didn't get dropped.
40:25I'm back independent.Did you end up feeling like the label shitwas just not for you?It was cool.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, I know what I'm saying?Like, I know, I'm supposed to make hitsand shit like that, you know what I'm saying?
40:36But I like just making my music.Like, you know what I'm getting older?Like, you know, I'm getting older.Like, for a time of time, I'd be hating to do that shit.Like, I used to pop hell of my bands,Adderall, just to rap.But I just found a love back.Like, when I was on the label,
40:49I ain't like doing music for real.Right.They're like whatever because they be trying to make a nigga make them old pop-ass songs and shit like that.Some my most biggest songs be like like the little neat shit that I make.You know what I'm saying?Hell yeah.And that shit streamed.You feel me?
41:02But would they send you beats with like pre-written hooks and shit?Hell yeah.I hate that shit, though.Hell yeah.Like a motherfucker, bro.You never got anything that you were like, oh yeah.Like this could be fucking dope.I'll like turn this shit to fuck off.
41:15Really?Shit was all corny-ass radio shit for real.They ever try to put you in the studio like with songwriters or they were.just sending you sort of like,nah,like shit,they put me in shitwith songwriters.
41:25And you just couldn't reallyvibe with them?I invite like the lean manand some bitches.And just like,then like I get it at nightsomething like shitwe gotta go to the club.
41:34Right,but I mean,the songwriter could be a cool dude.The songwriter could just belike some rapperthat ain't really poppinglike that anymorebut he's really good
41:41at writing shit, right?Right.I mean,I probably could have got on that shitand made a hit.When number one,I ain't gonna say the shit was bad.I just wasn't fucking with it.
41:48Right.I don't like him peoplewrite for me.because there's a lot of artists that I like.Like, Kodak is one artist that I really love.And there are some Kodak songs where I just listen to it.And I'm like, I do not believe for a second that he went into the studio and made this song.I just really believed that the label, he signed to Atlantic, I believe they sent him the beat, the flow, the hook, whatever.
42:10And that he was just actually down to do it.And then I see the marketing push behind some of those songs.And I'm like, this is such, this is like what the fucking label was made to do is to like,make you have a hit song and then push it.I don't know.But I mean, shit, if you can't get into the fucking vibe of doing it,then I guess it is what it is.Yeah, I like making my own shit, like,
42:30just doing the maxo shit.Then I was looking at the streams.I was like, bro, I was streaming the same as I waswhen I was independent that when I was signed.Really?Like, hell, yeah.Like, my earliest shit, streaming more than my hell, yeah.What about something like that Meg feature?
42:43That seems like the kind of thing that a label would help make happen.I, bro.The label never did shit for me as far as feature.Yeah.That's what I'm going to say.Every feature was me and my relationships.I've been knowing Meg, bro.Like, it was even a time, bro.
42:56Like, I was trying to sign Meg.You know what I'm saying?She knows that, her mom and all that shit.Like, you know what I'm saying?Before Carl Crawford.Hell yeah.Really.Shout out Carl, you know what I'm saying.
43:05The whole shit.Shout out Meg.You know what I'm saying.But hell yeah.Megan used to, bro.She used to cut up parties with the Hennessy bottle and turn the fuck up.Right.Rap and shit.
43:13Like, I've been knowing Meg.You feel me?Wow.That's crazy.What could have been?If you had done that, that would have been fucking naughty.I caught that Rika.I'm like, fuck that.
43:20I got to put this money into me.Really?So when you met her, was she, like, not on anything?She was just having a few songs out or what?She was, she was known for free silence.She was with the pre-review at first.Right.So, like, she was known, like, I think she was on a dance team
43:32or some shit like that.Just going to parties, turn up freestyle.She's going to go to parties and just rap and go feed.That's fucking crazy.Damn.She's got to be, like, a huge deal in Texas in general.You just hear, like, girls listening to her wherever you go and shit.Yeah, I want you to be honest.
43:47say concert and she came out really they went crazy wow shout out to Meg um how do you feel aboutmy man Crip Mac that i wanted to bring you guys together but like i feel like that should maybebe something we do after we catch up because i feel like he's he's such an amount of energy associatedwith him how do you feel about him right crib man how i feel about him i feel like shit we can get in the ringand fight with some money oh wow but i ain't about do no game banging with no niggas go back andfour niggas know what the fuck I do the niggas.So what, the forehead tattoo has you feeling a sort of way?Shit, my set stopped banging Hoover.
44:23Like, I went to work with my set behind that shit before I retired.Really?Like, you know what I'm saying?But everybody in my set got hoover tatted on them.But it's not like on some shit like, fuck.Like, you know what I'm saying?Hoover or something.He's just like, bro.
44:35Houston, Texas is 90% hoover.Right.But wait, so why did your team stop fucking with it?It was some shit, man.It was just like some shit with like the older niggas jail and shit like that.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like us, like, nigga, we was the Hoovers.Like, we brought that shit to A-Leaf on the side,
44:50Fort Park Murder Block.Like, you know what I'm saying?Niggas know about this shit.But it was just like some politics shit.Like, everybody at Hoover.Right.So somebody like, you feel me, so it's just to separate.Wow, that's interesting.
45:01Shit like that.But, yeah, I don't gang bang no more.You know what I'm saying?Nothing like that.You know, I'm saying for ever protected community.Mm-hmm.So, like, you know what I'm saying?Like, it was foreign park crib.
45:09You know what I'm saying?But forever protect the community, like,if you catch me out there,I'm shooting the video or I'm giving back.Like, you know what I'm saying?I ain't out there.Thuggin sitting on no block and shit like that.You feel me?
45:20Because we already got the reputation.Niggas is scared of us, bro.Right.Niggas play dead for they play with us.Really?Like, you know what I'm saying?And we don't even know that time.Like, you know what I'm saying?
45:28Come and being all tough and shit.Niggas trying to get some money on and, you know.You feel like the cops have it out for you?Or do you feel like the cops are starting to look at you like a good citizen?Man, last time I was in jail was fan cops.Really?Hell yeah.Them niggas.
45:41I don't say fan dot they know the realThe bailiff they used to get on our assRemember the big um Miss ElliotYeah you know what I'm sayingThe one I used to get on our shoesCome down their wholeSwolding the motherfucker you know what I'm sayingBut then she'd come with like a snoop dog do
45:54And a permI'm like look she's still a womanRightLike you know what I'm sayingBut recently she came up to meShe was like yeah manThey just dragging this case onLike you know what I'm saying
46:03The DA fucking got it out for youAnd everybody in jail likeThe fucking all the COs is fucking with meReallyYou know what I'm sayingThey jamming my music and shit likethere giving me that speech like man you're bigger than these guys manbecause when I was in that hole they was I was a king I had like three assistants
46:17everything that you know what I'm saying like riding all nighteveryone was having fun we was playing basketball like turned up and then they thought thatI was in there like having a good time right I'm like now nigga is jail but shitnigga what ever I'm man I'm gonna make the best of something right because youmust be like a fucking king in the county jail there I mean you just I mean niggas fuck withme right but you got enemies in there too people aren't happy to see that in a good time noLike that?Nah, like, all my office is dead or in jail broke.
46:45Really?Hell yeah, I don't really got no ops.I get love.The niggas, there's a so-called ops.They love my music.They kids love my music.You know, I'm older.I've been thugging.
46:53You know what I'm saying?I'm older now on my corporate shit.So, you know what I'm saying?Plus a lot of shit, like, I see a nigga.Like, I see a nigga and a nigga that I see a nigga and I'm robbed and shit.Then they give me a speech.They're like, you know, I ain't tripped on that shit.Bro, this keep doing what you do.
47:06I know you was younger.Woo, woo.Like that shit didn't have them beforeCould you be that mature about somebodyHaven't done something like that to you?I ain't never been wrongLet's say that you ran into somebodyThat had shot at you in the past
47:19Ten years agoHell yeah, I have.You're over it?We had to talk.You have a talk.I don't see any of that shot at me.I caught him with his kids, you know what I'm saying?But I ain't on that kind of shit
47:27Like, you know what I'm saying?I get a nigga, I ain't dead, bro, you feel me?It's other nicks that they had doneWhy the fuck I'm studying the day?It's because Adam got me on this fucking Blanco.It might be becauseyou're shoving fucking blunt roaches into the bong but she's show and i seen your sneakyass like hitting it where you didn't even break off the piece you were just holding it in there
47:47and shit i'm like what all your life is just talking about sneak yeah i ain't got a sneak of donothing right do we don't talk about crib mac we're gonna talk about you and my niggins on back onon big cuz you know how we come in this motherfucker i gotta bring yeah something at here but yeahwe back on melrose now but uh what what what about back on fig no because you we ain't thoughCrip, Matt. Hold up. Hold up.Let's start there.This Blanco kicking in.Okay, no, but this is why my one encounter with it.
48:13I'm going to look for topics for Max O'Cream. I'm taking notes.I see a clip on back on fake. It's a clip called Max O'Cream talks about his beef withsauce Walker. I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, did he ever have beef with sauce water?I don't know that to be a fact. So I'm curious.These three topics. And I start reading the comments before I even get into the clip.And I realize you obviously had a very famous fight in a parking lot with Rizzo Rizzo, not Soss Walker.Yeah.So that's why you need to come fuck with professional operations because they won't give you the wrong ops in the title of the video.
48:46Nah, thanks, fat.Shout out Soss Walker.All right, back to Crip Mac.Because, you know what's cracking.Shout out J.Free J.F.5, you know what I'm saying?But, like, you know what I'm saying, bro?It is with his name about the game back with him because, bro, it's like, first off, it's L.A.
49:01y'all bad at his head tatevery niggalip up brick baby's shirtevery nigga got that shittatted on them and guess whatmy homies got this shit tooI got homies I got the criminalsthey got CK on them
49:13you know the five deusesyou know what I'm sayingfor in parkwe keyway toobut like I'm just sayinglike you know what I'm sayingso I don't even get into allthat shit because everybody got them kind of tats
49:25you know what I'm sayingit's just like he's been talkingabout the Houston niggas and shit like thatI went to hastensthe nigga he talked about Fabioasked Fabio about my crippment back in the dayand by Trigger MaxoTrigger Max O C before Maxo cream
49:37He know that shit I don't likeThen he said Hazel's Elsie but I think he kind of slowWait Trigger Maxo that was like a hood name for you at the timeYeah, yeahOh okayYou know what I'm saying? I can't imagine how you got that nameYou ain't ever heard of himNo I remember you saying out of songs and shit
49:52But I didn't know that that was like a formalYeah nah but shit sure it's sure it before Maxo CreamIt was Max OC you know what I'm saying boomSo likeBut I think Crimack kind of slowbecause he talked about Hazen Elsie.That means that he was in the index.That's where the schools connect.
50:05You know what I'm saying?That's what like the Spanish classes at,the ESL, like the kind of slow kids.You know what I'm saying?So that's why I ain't getting in the game banging with him.He just started.I'll be doing this shit since 2003 since I was 13, you feel me?We could fight and look, it'll be, bro.
50:21They should have made money.You know what I'm saying?I think they should have made money now.I ain't doing it for no money.I don't even be on that kind of shit.But it's like you keep, like, you know what I'm saying,throwing shit back.You know, that niggas is a YouTube.
50:31I'm a rapper.Really?Like, you know what I'm saying?I don't be on their YouTube shit.Like, you know, but, shit, but some money and I do that shit.Would it be something where, if you won the fight, would you shake hands with them afterwards?Or would you spit on his ass afterwards?I ain't.
50:46Two options.There's only two ways for a fight to end.This thing, I have them freaky.You know about the Savage Life, right?Nick I know about the Chicago.Shout out Rico Reckles, bro.Rico Regless is my boy.You know what I'm saying?
50:56You hit Crit Mac with the Glock Dokey?You might want to stay out of him for a while.Shout, I wrong.I roam me, bro.Brick Baby is my nigger.Right.Brick is my nigger.Does he have HK tattoos?
51:05I haven't seen it.He probably do, bro.He got a song called back to Slawson.Uh-huh.You know what I'm saying?I'm like, oh, my God.Like, look, let me tell you how,how me and Brick Baby met.
51:13So I would love to know.He was with Frato.Everybody knows Frato.My brother, saw.So I'm talking with Fredo.Fredo from Chicago.He's a BD.So he's like, I got a Crip homie.
51:23I'm like, yeah.He's like, yeah,he's like, yeah, he's like, oh my God.You know what I'm saying?He like,he's like, yeah,he's cripped like you.I'm like, shit,
51:31he's not cripped like me,but yeah,now because of Crip.You know what I'm saying?I'm like, shit,he's like,bad.I think he was at South by Sawyerhuis or something.
51:37He was with Dirk.I was with Fredo.And then Fredo was smart.I think Fredo knew what the fuck he was doing.Right.He was smiling.And then he had introduced us.You know what I'm saying?
51:46And then Bribebbaugh was like,Hoover,like that.Like that.Like, you know what I'm saying?Shorn love.Since then I've been,you know,
51:53Brick may be coming to Houston.Right.Like,when he said he'd be in Texas,then the guy ain't lying.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, back when I used to be with Gunny and shit like that,he would be with him and shit like that.
52:02Or, like,he came to my birthday party.Hmm.What was it?You still going to be out here?2020.You still going to be out here Friday?Friday.
52:11Nah, I'm gone.Ah.I come back.I come back, man.You know I'll come back for Adam's birthday party.I'll send the RSVP link.It's going to be a star stuff.Who's going to be there.
52:20Shit.Amber Rose.No, maybe had to come whoop one of your partners, bro.You know, Adam is hell.Nah, we had to be, certain people didn't get invited, basically,in order to keep things friendly.Yeah, I come.It's a complicated, a couple complicated decisions to make there.
52:36But yeah, so with Krip, I'm going to help me with your topics.Oh, yeah.Sorry, so with Krip, Mac, we're going to fight for some goddamn money.Now, I remember you asked me something about the real zone fight.We can go to the, you know what I'm saying?After we talk about the shit with you and back on feed.What do you want to know?What's going on?
52:52man.There's nothing going on.God damn, bro.Right.What?Who you gonna look at?I ain't talked to them.What you mean?
52:58What do you want to know?I'm gonna look at CMAC.We all I talked about this.I'm gonna look at CMAQ in the ringfor some money.Okay.You know what I'm saying?Who are you gonna look at?
53:07Who am I gonna fight?Yes.Not one arm lizard man.No, AD too big.He's a heavyweight.He's like 400 pounds.No, you should go.No.
53:18I mean.You want me to call him right now?No.That would be.You call me on Tony Willrich.I can't call Trell.That is a good point.You said Trippin.
53:26You said Tritman.I mean, you could do whatever you want.But I don't think that he thinks that he wants to fight me in a boxing ring.That would be.No, I'm going to call my nigga.Let me see.Do I still got the same one?That's like the WNBA playing against the NBA.
53:39Who got his number?Call him, man.They have to ask each other for the number.I mean, realistically, I have his number, but he has me both on Instagram.Hell, no, I'm not calling him.It's up.But hey, yeah.Nah, that's all jokes.
53:56Yeah, nah, shit, but shit.But see, look, see how your jokes be turning into other shitwhere people, sometimes you got to fill your jokes.Yeah, no.But look, Adam, you know.I ain't worried about them.But look, ain't nobody going to play with you, bro.You know, I got your back.
54:08Yeah?You're my nigga, bro, for sure, for sure.I just had to come on with him and be messy.No, no, I like it.Yeah, yeah.You know what I'm saying?We need that kind of energy out here.Yeah, man.
54:15Is it there?Blanco.See, I was chilling there first.Yeah.They hit the Blanco, hit the bong again.How did they get you tapped in with T-Rill, anyway?How I made T-Rill?The Hoover Commission told you,
54:26like, we need you to sit down with this guy.Nah, hell, nah.I remember it was the time one of my homies,H-crown.Like, he had, like, a problem with it.Like, you know what I'm saying?Free H-Crown, you know what I'm saying?Right.
54:35Real fire those Hoover Gangs is the crew.That nigga had me on 50th Street.Really?If anybody know about the hut inside the groove line,that was on 505th Street,but that's what's what I've got.So, yeah, I've been to 55-st street and all that.You know what I'm saying?
54:48But anyways,age crime he had a problem with T.Rill and I really tried, like, you know what I'm saying, kind of like dead that shit, you know what I'm saying, shit like that.Okay.I fuck with T.Rill. He had a store back when I was with my baby mama.We had went in there, then like he came mom. I'm like, okay, so this is your stove.I think him and Tiger had a store that called Last Kings back in the day.Right.You know what I'm saying?
55:08Yeah, T.Rill, yeah, he's a good nigga, bro.Right. Yeah, great guy.But he's going to whoop you? What's he going to do, Adam?What's he going to do?You think he's going to whip me?He doesn't have full access to his limbs.Like he's just, it's not, it's not a fair fight.That's fucked up, bro.
55:27Like, I mean, a lot of people, that's crazy though.Certain people get put in.He might sleep you with that motherfucker, see,because you're gonna be looking for,he'll come, wopow, catch you with something uglyand knock their assight.Yeah, you're gonna have to fight this chopper.Boy, he's a gangbanger.
55:38They think of the guy put down, DPs, all that shit.Yeah.Oh my God.Yeah, everybody called to you running this is a motherfuckering.Shut up, you want the damn view.This is going to be funny as fuck.You want the goddamn views.You're going to hang up before fucking.
55:56Later today, I do.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.It's Hoover Day.I was just telling Brigh, baby, it's Hoover Day.Hey, bro, once I retired in like 10 years,I'm going to be a host.I was telling Brick, baby, there's one.There's one.
56:06There's one whoever you can be around.There's one whoever you cannot be around.So security-wise, we're moving appropriate today.Let me see.What is this going to be his opening, his opening line.Uh-oh.This is going to be insane.Uh-oh.
56:21This is some real Marvel Cinematic Universe shit.Well, no, it's 4 o'clock.He might be streaming, though.Is it?Oh, yeah, it's 403.He probably is streaming.What day is it?Monday.
56:35Yeah.How are you lucky?Damn.Just dodge that fade.What I'm gonna call AD?Whack did that the other day.Whack?Shout out, Wack.
56:47Wack, set up the CRIMAC fight, man.I love that you.really want to fight him though but has he dissed you I never really heard therins you yes bro damn I miss that now he ain't never diss me he just said Hayserelse's gonna what the fuck is that I'm like bro I went to Haysas High School so I didtwo years at Hayses and how long oh boy I'm calling Cripman yo Trialguess why I'm at bro what's up old friends now yeah we gotta get this shitstraight you know I'm rocking with my boy T Reel look
57:21Man, I'm riding with you.But with me, yeah.So what are we going to do?The boxing magic is, man, I know you're going to whip at him.We already talked about it.I said I'm going to go with Crip Mac.You know what I'm saying?And we're going to end it like that.
57:39Because Cubs playing with you.I'm like, bro, he got put down.He probably got DPs.He probably done bick through all kind of shit.Adam, you think you're going to whip this, nigga?I think he knows that, too, right?Man, so what are we doing?I'm riding with you.
57:58All right.I told you you're scared.That nigga ain't scared?My nigga ain't scared.Bro, they won't even mention me on the fucking podcast.I'm the boogeyman to them.I'm fucking Gucci man.Hey, you bet I don't follow me to you,
58:11where I know what that deep.I'm going to come over there.You see how uncomfortable he got?He's like, sad.I'm going to tell you what's grew.Get me your number two.Well, I've been headed.Get this down block off of him, man.
58:24This is what happens when you start sticking bun.in the bong.Yeah, come, we got to take another hit.God damn.We got hit it to, like, normal way, though.Wait, you just don't want me to breathe on it again?Bro, what do you be doing, bro?What?
58:37You got the only fans?You can't breathe on my shit like that, bro.What am I doing on my only fans?I'm eating vaginas and assholes.Exactly, bro.All goddamn damn, breathing down my deep throatmy goddamn bong, bro.A lot of people seem to think I'm gay lately.
58:49I don't know what the hell's going on.But you're not gay.No, of course not.You can't be gay.You're just into that white boy's shit.I do identify.White boys.Like, white boys fuck bitch is dipping, bro.
58:57You know, they be on like that weird, like to a black nigga like that weird shit.Hey, now that you're not with the Hoover movement anymore, what do you think about the zesty disciples?Who, nigga, who said that out of the, um.I thought you said you said you dropped it.I said I'm not an active gang member.Okay.But you could still be a zesty disciple.What the hell is that?
59:18It's a whole, it's a whole thing.I probably shouldn't get into explaining it right now.Hey, man, RIP, my nigga, Frato.Shout out 061 Front Street.to be these on King David, boy.I know how I'm coming, boy.You like that?On King David, Chody.
59:30On King, that.Hey, I don't lie.That shit was, hold on, no.What do you got about you?I hadn't heard the song.Man, you heard that.You heard that.Nobody believes me that I haven't heard the song,
59:42but I just, I keep ignoring it every time he tags me in it.He's like, I got nicks.Something like that.That's everybody's judge.Why do you let people disrespect your, I never disrespect your girl,just because it's your girl, you my niggum.Right.Why you let people do that shit?
59:54What am I going to do?I'm just going to fucking nuke everybody.No, you need to practice fighting them, niggas.So you can get ready for trail when he hits you with their hand.You keep talking about, he's going to sleep you with it.He's a deadish.He's a dead of shit.I have the fact that we get here, everybody's screaming on the outside.
01:00:09This interview was so high at first that blood will get the kicking in.On King David, Shorty.Listen, if I'm going to make my life into a fucking joke and do shit like a reality show with a bunch of dudes trying to fuck my girl,I got to be able to take some jokes, right?I got to be able to let Famous Richard write a fucking song and not.like, I'm gonna beat you up, Richard.On King David.So shit, who are you gonna slap?
01:00:31Nobody.You don't get a fuck about this shit.My nigga Adam out of here.I mean...On his is, man.I'm doing my thing.I'm not worried about it.Nobody's, like, said anything about that shit
01:00:40that bothers me.I can't think of anybody I would be mad at it.If I was going to be mad at anybody,it would probably be academicsfor doing the play-by-play of her getting fucked by this other guy,but I only seen a little bit of that, so...No, I fuck with you in that.Why?
01:00:53Because I actually sit there.down y'all be there with the interview niggas like you know what I'm saying right that shitwe sit down with the interviewers what do you mean like I'll be there with the artists oh yeah like youlike you know if you're not like open like no screen and shit like though this spread nobodyto do that shit but it's like more authentic that shit's boring right like even even I did a streamwith academics for like three hours like a couple months ago and it's just like it's just not the sameenergy like I feel like people would be so much more excited to see us in the same room but whenon discord it's just I don't know you lose something I don't know um so you're
01:01:29really playing golf now oh was that like a one-time thing I'm in a couple oftimes you know I'm saying I'm trying to you know all my neighbors like you knowI'm saying like being friendly with the neighbors and shit like that I got a kidnow so really hey yeah so I'm gonna with the golf so you're neighbor that's who yougo golfing with is your neighbors or you're just trying to like fit in and do thesame like my neighbors and plus this is the um you know I got the brandpersona, you know what I'm saying, persona.Cop that shit with. Yeah, I got the
01:01:57brand that we're doing like a little collab with Raleigh Gough.You know what I'm saying? It's a golf brand out of Houston.Right. Like, they people be, like, havinglike, planks and shit, like,the most infamous golf clubs. Like, you know what I'msaying? Like, who the fuck was behind us while?When we was golfing, was it? Roger Clemens or Aaron Rogers,is one of them motherfuckers.
01:02:14Shit like that. Talk aboutwe holding up the goddamn T.Really? Like the hell, yeah. You think you're goodat it, or are you struggling? I'm decent.What's I got to? You know what I'm saying? I'm decent.Right. I mean, I'm going to be real, like, rich people play golf.This is just what they do.It's why I'm working out.
01:02:31True. But if you just want to, like, be involved in those sort of social circles,like, bro, there's a reason why the president is golfing, like, 100 days out of the year and shit.Like, Donald Trump was out there golfing constantly.Like, people who are serious in business and shit, if you want to be in those circles,golfing seems like a pretty good way to get there.No, thanks.And also, if you're like a swagged out rapper dude, I feel like they probably have.I'll be killing the golf.
01:02:54I'll be killing the golf outfits.Right.Niggins ain't fuck.Really niggas can't fuck with me in general with this shit.It's maxill motherfucking see the plosh grip you ever see.But does that mean you to have to wear the fucking goofy-ass golf outfits?I ain't true.And it's something new.
01:03:06I'm going to crash it every time.Right.You know what I'm saying?There's that school boy Q on that too.He's a golfer, I think.Yeah, but he, I'm going to score a business than me.Like, he's for real.You know what I'm saying?
01:03:16Right.I go, like, you know what I'm saying?Papa has some fun.But that shit get boring.and then when I get the missing that bitch,I'm like, man, fuck this shit.My dad has previously requested that I go golfing with himand I told them I can't do it.
01:03:27I'm just, I don't think I can do it.Right.And when I think about it, like,I'll probably maybe just be making fun of me the whole time.They're going to be laughing their asses off at meif I really suck as bad as I assume I would suck.That's what probably is keeping me from doing it.I don't know.
01:03:41Okay.What about, oh yeah, this is another thingI really wanted to hear you chime in on.So Saucy Santana told academicsthat he was going to beat the shitout of him and fuck him.Which is a hilarious sentence,even if we just left it right there.
01:03:55Damn.But academics basically said that he can't fight a gay guybecause he thinks he'll get canceled.I mean, I feel academics, there's like a fucked-upbad situation. Like, academics ain't no gangster.Right.There's like some gangster as shit.He's like...
01:04:09You're not going to fuck, yeah.Just like...Oh, shit.That's just fucking next level shit right there.But, I mean, could you fight Saucy Santanaif he wanted the smoke?I ain't got no smoke with Saususus SantanaBut what if he declared war on you?
01:04:22I'm a motherfucking manAnybody come out of way, nigga, what the fuck?Even if they have a BBL?He got that?YeahLong-ass nailsLike your girlAin't no nigga about the swing on me, bro
01:04:36RightLike you even try to touch you, you're gonna dieLike, I ain't gonna do itIf Sots is a punch of academicsI got people like, you know what I'm sayingPay security, but like manBro, don't even play with me like thatBut at the end of the day
01:04:48Like shit, niggaSaususitin is a manso I'm gonna defend myself against any maneven with a BBLThat's crapI got security for shit like thatBut shitI got trans security
01:05:02I mean shit but hey broAcademics if you want to fightSaus Santana I could train you like you know what I'm sayingGet you rightRightYeah yeah but I mean yeah for sureIf Saucer Santana walked up to the academicsAnd hit him then it's all good
01:05:13But realistically like that'sOh shitBut you hear that Puffy tried to likeGet academics caught upHe invited them to a party in theLondon that the city girls and SaucySantana were at. So he could have gotturned into a pack at this crazy
01:05:27party party. He just got to fight back. Defendyourself academics. Like, yeah.I got your back, bro.Let me know, boy, I train you.Like, you know what I'm saying? That could be a whole C,bro, yourself to fight him, bro. That could makesome money. Okay, but your firstpublic fight is a big deal.
01:05:44Does he want his firstpublic squabble to be with a guy witha BBL and a beard? That'sweird for his image. Like, that would be bad foryour image. If you had never had afight before and then all of a sudden there's a video you fightinga fucking dude with a BB. I would be like Maxo,I would hit up Toby like, bro,
01:06:01this isn't right. This is not good for his career.I don't know, bro. He don't got to fight him, bro.Just ignore him.With the media right now, bro, you could just ignoreshit. Like, nigga, aftera month people will forget. Right.Like, even cancel coach, I don't feel like anybody get canceled.But don't me try to go look for shit to cancel me for
01:06:18me saying this. I'm just saying likeyou can't really cancel likeCould anybody cancel Chris Brown?Yeah.You could cancel no light-skinned nigga that do backflips.Like, the bitch is still going on.Like, you know what I'm saying?But the thing is that, like, any normal artist would have pretty much been canceled
01:06:31for what Chris Brown did, except for the fact that he's so musically talented.Bro, if you dark, big, black, dark with a beard, you don't stand that chance when it comesto cancel culture, bro.They look at you like, man, hell, yeah.Yeah, you don't know.Dark-skinned niggas get it bad, bro.You don't have all the advantages that he has.Because look at the baby.
01:06:46All the baby.Hold on.Hold on.I do.I'm the fat and sexist motherfucker out here, my nigga.Right.ass these holes, nigga, what the fuck?But I'm just saying, like, the baby,
01:06:56he got canceled for just sayingsome shit about motherfuckers with AIDS.Like, don't get...I don't know how to dance with a league.They're gonna get him.It's just with the hands on the knee.That nigga back.Right, yeah.
01:07:06No, I mean...But if anything's gonna bring him back, though,it's just the fact that he's real talentedmusically, you know?You gotta sit down for a little bit, chill,come the fuck back.Yeah.You gotta ignore some shit, bro.
01:07:17This internet shit ain't really.That's why you talk about some damn.I see you on the internet.You my boy.If Jack Harlow did what Chris Brown did back in the day, it's over.Jack Harlow, naive.It's over.You get no passes as a white boy.
01:07:32You are out of here.Sure, Adam.What world do you fucking live in?I'm saying white rappers, the white rapper cancellation standard is very low.Eminem buried his mama in the video.What the fuck are you talking about?No, Eminem said the N-word on multiple rap songs that were leaked to the public 20 years ago.He was trying to be tight.
01:07:54He was trying to be tight.This Eminem him.He was talking about black bitches with their fucked up hair or some shit.Those lyrics were crazy.But Eminem kind of like disappeared from the public eye for a long time after that before he finally like slowly came back.Everybody, bro.Everybody fuck up, bro.That little grew up around, bro.
01:08:12You ever seen white folks?He's a, hey, bro.White folks say niggins.I feel him.Does he?Hell yeah.I got them on next week.I got asked him.
01:08:21Yeah, your white folks live.I ain't going to lie.And I'm feeling that nigger because I'm from the South.Right.We had a white boy named West.He used to say, nigga.But then I remember one time he pissed me up.I'm going to lie, you little white bitch.
01:08:30I got something for your ass.We were somewhere around the whole gang.I got a cousin named Ali.He's from my head.People like Western and King, like out of their way.Right.Like, you know.White folks, so white folks, don't cut out of my fucking story.
01:08:42I don't.See, like, you see, you're on reach.And your security too slow.You don't know how to want people dying.So relax.I got my own security tooYou told himWe ain't in Texas
01:08:55But scary assPut that gun up and come fight TirelNow lookWhat was I sayingSo thenWes got aroundThe black peopleI like Wes
01:09:03Did you sayEarlier?Even though I was lettingSee it a little bitUh huhAll rightGo to your storyFuck you
01:09:09NoNoI was justI was trying to get the same thingLike white folksCould come around youAnd just be sayingThe NWard
01:09:14And you wouldn't give a fuckHe didn'tMenbersWith themI feel himHe a memberRightAnd they're like
01:09:20you know what I'm saying shit he filled him yeah I don't blame he ain't sayingbut now white people ain't supposed to say nigga though broI'm gonna stay in my black folks like like if I'm in the room with my potter say likeMaxo bitch you tripping bro you lay nigger say nigga I'm blahcool for show but white folks it's a new day and age broit's white boys it's damn their black from the hood I knew white boysthat was like that they be GDs too I don't know what it is with GDs and white boysbut white boys can become GDs that's good to know what I'm saying they be like
01:09:49that like that you know what I'm saying they be like thatLike, you know what I'm saying?Like, so shit.That's crazy.I feel like he's not seeing.Right.And he's also not like this type of white boy.He's like clearly grown up in that kind of environment to such an extent that he really believes he's that.
01:10:04You got going on on your platform.They keep a nigga out your mind.Don't say, nigga.You better not say nigga.I don't want the past.I'm going to still arrive for you though, bro.You try to give me the pass.I don't want the pass.
01:10:15You can hold on to the pass.You can invite me to the cookout.Bro, when you got out to 18 in them, I bet you like these ungrateful niggas.They don't want to shit.Stupid-ass, niggins.I know what someone said, nigger.Dead the narrative.That would be a lot.
01:10:29Oh, so look, see, rappers, you can learn something.Whenever Adam and somebody posts you and it ain't really to say dead the narrative.Dead the narrative.DT.N.DT.M.My boy.That's our new crew.Okay, I wanted to ask you about this, as long as we get real messy.
01:10:43So you had a situation in L.A. back in the day.I had you slap that rapper scheme?Slap schemeI couldn't find any YouTube videos about it or anythingBut it's YouTube videoYou go watch his ownIt's like OuziJust go type in like maxo scheme and shit like that
01:10:57But we already resolve that shitYou know what I'm sayingI fuck with eating wood family niggasYou know what I'm sayingI fuck with a lot of them niggasRightLike my little brother that was thereHe ain't wood families
01:11:07And he fuck with niggas out hereBut how did this situation play out in the first placeI'm walking inThat's back when I was on drinking like ZansI had a showHe was like I forgot theI think it was likeUno first, me, then Uzi, then Cardi.
01:11:20That's true.Hell, yeah, so I'm walking in.Then I'm texting Scheme.Scheme, reached out to him, was fucking with my music,but I know Schengin' being a blood nigga with braids,kind of chunky, like, you know what I'm saying?And then, like, when I'm walking up,I see, like a little skinny-ass nigga with dreadlocks,
01:11:33you know what I'm saying?He right though, or even with security.I'm really, see, I was so intoxicated.I'm supposed to realize, oh, shit, that's skin.What the fuck?Come on.Bro, you good.You know what I fuck with you.
01:11:43But I'm so irritating and shit.I don't got into it with Toby that more than all that shit.walking in, I'm like, but who is this?I'm like, bro, move, get your bitch ass out the way.You know what I'm saying, shit like that?And I go, I perform.So as I perform, it's Oozie.He coming up.
01:11:55He's, he, he, Maxo.Shout my boy, Uzi, too.You know what I said?I was just with him.He's like, Maxo, you got into it with scheme.I'm like, oh shit, that scheme?I'm tripping.So that's all, like, you know what I say?
01:12:06I take that.So I went over there.He's like, nah, blood.Who you calling the bitch?Blood?I'm like, what I'm saying?But I was known for,at Salt By that's how I met Cardi.
01:12:14Being up, niggins, like, we used to whip ass atthat shit in Texas, so our opposite shit was there.So, we was known for whooping ass.But now it's like, what,was it, 2015 now?I'm more, like, solidified.I'm doing shows.I'm not just fucking up the goddamn show.
01:12:30So, like, I was like,hold on, what you mean?Look, bitch, woo-woo.We're going back and forth.Then one of my homers, like, hey, Maxo got the back end.And then one of the homies like,yeah, he stole him, boom, moo.I ain't even, look, I ain't even touch skin.
01:12:42don't that they were stump his ass.You know what I'm saying?And so then what?Some Englewood people ended up going to a video shootor ended up seeing you somewhere?So boom, it was some Englewood niggas, you know what I'm saying?They went in and saying, fuck Max.So it was like, it was some shit across the round too.
01:12:55Went up being up being a fan, stabbing them some shit.But then, like, I remember Tiny Much you were trying to get on the songwith my nigga H-Crown.Then, like, they talked.Then we got some shit overstood.Like, you know what I'm saying?But I fuck with a lot of Englewood niggas not like shit.Rootie.
01:13:09You know what I'm saying?I went to a party out there in Englewood and shitAnd that's howI ain't gonna say we bumped headsBut it was something like you know what I'm sayingI'm saying I'm sayingNika stood on businessLike you know what I'm saying cool nigga
01:13:20We got that shit resolved you feel meNot staying on business like the niggaIt was on just like thatBut likeOne thing about being the gangsterBeing the man broIt's your conversationAnd your word
01:13:29Because everything I gotta go toIf you got to mindLike you know what I'm sayingLike a lot of nixCause a lot of nixingBehind dumb ass shitThat you could sit down and talk aboutEspecially when nix having money
01:13:37Having certain shitLike then like you know what I'm sayingat the time, like, regardless of them I said,banging Fallen Park, we, nigga, forever.Now, if I go to L.A. County right now, I can't tell them,nah, I ain't Hoover. I'm for in Park. What the fuck?I got five dudes on my chest, you feel me? So,no matter whether my set being Fordn Park is still banging Hoover,
01:13:55they're going to look at us like that. Like, you know what I'm saying?And, like, Inglewood families and Hoover don't got no beef.Right. You know what I'm saying? Foren Park don't got no beef with Inglewood families.Right. That's good.Yeah, that was why it was kind of funny when we were doing that Tony Willow red shit is that it's like,You got somebody from Texas.I got some of water.And then you got a couple guys from L.A.
01:14:13And it's like, clearly the politics are not the same.They don't work the same way at all.But it's like seeing these people try to make sense of it was just kind of fascinated the people, I think.Right.Yeah, I don't know.Okay.How did you link up with Keglock for that video you guys shot recently?Man, I've been fucking with Keglock for a minute.
01:14:33Shit, my first time I had met Dolf.I made the nigga at Patchwork.I was with Hood Rich King.You know what I'm saying?That's my brother.Shout out of Hurried.He was supposed to do an interview with him many years ago.Yeah, you know, you got that slurred words and shit going too.
01:14:44Right.But anyways, boom, I met him then.Then, like, shit, he been watching since then.Then, like, when the Rico case happened, he reached out, you know what I'm saying?Because, you know, all trappers spoke with each other.You know what I'm saying?Shit like that.So, fucking with him.
01:14:56He was there when I was at Icebox and I was copping, like, getting my first Cubans from ropes.When I bought my lambbo and shit like that, when I bought the lamb truck and shit like that,like, brodies always fucked with me.Then I was overseas touring, and I was in Belgium.he was in Belgium, I brought him in Kiglock out.You know what I'm saying?Shit like that.So I've been fucking with Kiklock.
01:15:15I was in the strip club.I bumped into, bro.You know what I'm saying?Boom.He's that shit.Let's get in the studio.Got in the studio.I went to Jamaica, came back.
01:15:22We shot the video.Right.Now, that was dope.That's like, I mean,Keglock,when you think about the last couple yearsthat he's had with the Dolf shitand everything, I mean,
01:15:30his music, though,is still going crazy.Like, it's really good to see this career.He's streaming like a motherfucker.Yeah.Definitely.I've been tapping in a lot more to some of his newer shitand that's just like, you think about that Dolf shit
01:15:40is like, I just, I didn't know how longit was going to take before he was able to really get backinto career mode after that shit, you know?No, I know, I lost my brother, so I knowthat's be taking my shit.Yeah.Time and shit, but like shit, that money and plus you got to keep that personlegacy alive.
01:15:56But yeah, fuck all that.Let's go back.You were talking about that Rizzo shit.Remember, you never touched on that.Oh, yeah.Well, I was just talking about the fact that it was funnythat they titled the video.As if you had a real beef with sauce.
01:16:05Nah, that nigga will walk, I poke a walk.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, shit, there's money getting niggas out the city.Right.Like, I get money, he'd get money.Like, you know what I'm saying?Some of my little niggas over there, some of his little niggas over here.Like, there ain't no motherfucking smoke walking in like that.
01:16:18You know what I'm saying?Man, Rizzo, we had a fist fight.It is what it is.Shout out Rizzo, let him do his thing.That shit was dope, honestly.Just the fact that you guys had enough respect to each other to get it in like thatinstead of having to turn in some other shit.When you look at all these young-ass rappers these days,
01:16:32it seems like there's only one waythat they want to solve problemsbetween each other.It was good to see some man and shit like that.A lot of these niggas, they had catch an attemptto murder for they catch your ass whoop.Yeah.I ain't catch it neither.
01:16:43Yeah.You know what I'm saying?I'm a man.Shit like that shit like that.But nowadays you got to, but like,just how like L.A. be pressing niggas.You can't come to Houston pressing old little niggins 17.He's going to switch your ass to fuck down.
01:16:53Right.Oh, that old bully-ass shit.Like, you know what I'm saying?But niggas respectful, though.So if you that nigga, like,like, you know what I'm saying?like if your name ring billsand certain shit like you know what I'm saying
01:17:03niggas ain't gonna play with youis a lot of respectyou know what I'm sayingshit like that but if you're a wholeyou know what I'm sayingyou're a pussy pussy to get fuckedright you know thatthis is a fact
01:17:12bro but I seen Saws Walkerfucking on the internetI was on Twitterhe's a real only fan superstarman I was on Twitterlooking for some goddamn pornand seeing that shitlike oh hell now
01:17:22I doubt like but shitbro getting money doingI ain't gonna lie broif I go on my phoneif I saw the only fans todayI don't even got apost an old guy. I don't got make no more content.Right. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that, but I don't
01:17:34be... Do you think there's a market out there for you todo your thing on OnlyFans? Hell yeah. Really?Hell yeah. I'm just not familiar with whatthe plus size market is. It ain't the pleasant,bro. Adam, I mean, losing away, Adam.And getting slow, stop playing with me.No, you look great. But I mean...Why don't want me stand up and show these muscles, Adam?
01:17:50What's wrong with you? If you start OnlyFans,you're going to be disgusted when you realize that allthe messages are asking you for jerk offvideos and shit. I ain't sayingnothing. They don't get on Onlyfans and see me,on this Belisianawith this EB'sjust putting on your clothes
01:18:04and I'm charging them off50Kwhat you talk aboutjust trying on jacketsI mean nowoh what's the matchyou can chargethe only fans
01:18:12a month like 50I don't knowhonestly50 or 100I don't knowI'm charging a hundredmotherfucking money bitchI've never checked
01:18:21to see whatI'm gonna get them infor a low priceand then youget this damn jacketon it's awkwardup charge them for likethe premium content
01:18:28rightThat was a nice jacket.Yeah, a little something.Yeah, it's good.I had on some chrome hard, but I got it dirty eating breakfast.I was going to come crom to the bone on you.Really?Yeah, yeah.
01:18:39Damn.One time I went to the Chrome Heart store,somebody had to pay $50 for me to get in.Damn.They charged me to walk in.Hit me, bro.I didn't realize what was happening.Hit me, I got you, Adam.
01:18:49Bro, can I take you shot behind?Listen, bro.I can get you right.Hey, bro, bro, Adam, if you come in here,you let Maxo style you with that persona dripand you got all this damn moneyand buy you a track,This is turning into a theme because Desto Deb got mad at me from my outfit the other day when I pulled up to the story.
01:19:04He said my shoes were too weak.So it's turning into a theme that all my cool black friends are telling me that my clothes suck and I got to start dressing better.But I'm going to take this feedback in stride.I'm going to actually, I'm going to start putting more effort in.I'm high as fuck.Yeah.I can tell.All right.
01:19:20We good?What do the people need to know about?Shit.Max O'Creen got my own record label, signed myself.I'm independent.I'm saying?Masonic Music GlobalPeson the money gang
01:19:32Money on whateverYou know what I'm sayingPersona packTexas TTexas TI heard him screaming out thereShout out my manYoung LB
01:19:41We got the Lease tooBut I don't knowWhat they're at right nowOh reallyI just roll oneBut yeah I got theThe cream leasAnd all this shit
01:19:49Hold on right hereOh you got your ownYour own brand of leafHuhThis is what we're doingBackwoods got taken outBy the fuckingThe leaf brands
01:19:57Yeah boomAnd it's say Texas T on thereCreamLeafs we got the persona store size dispensary coming soon in Texas did you write thisenhance your smoking ritual with the unparalleled quality of cream leafs bake tobacco rapshandpicked from our family reading you white it's cut off the you ripped it so I couldn'tread tobacco tobacco rabs handpick from our family farms in Nicaragua's radiantmountain ranges did you just say nigger Nicaragua
01:20:25Nicar who?And I ain't a reallythat shit. But yeah, man, everything, you know what I'm saying?Handcrafted. That's a fact. All right. My man, this isthe craziest shit I ever seen. That's why he's like Rucci. You didn't hearalways hitting the bong? Roochie be hitting the bong? He used to be. I don't knowif he still is. I don't know. Free my niggas. All thatMaxo Crane, the tape dropping soon. Right. Go get my shit. We keep
01:20:53like I got right now. I'm a real trap, nigga, baby. I'm so used toballing. All that. Oh, shit. Put him over and gangstersthe show. Shout out Brick Baby.Hey, don't Brick baby got a show?Well, he's just on the Tuesday show.Tuesday show?Right.I'll poke with Brick.
01:21:08We could do something like, you know what I'm saying?Let's do that.You're going to move out here ever or you're stuck in Texas?Nick, I was just out here.Yeah, you're out here, but.No, I mean, like, I just lived out here.How long?I say, what, 2017 or like 2020, 2020, 2021?
01:21:20What the fuck?I didn't know your eye for that long.Hell yeah.I'm gone, bro.Houston is the new LA, Houston Leit.Is it really?Hell yeah.Hmm.
01:21:28Maybe I'll have to move.Joe Rogan did itAustin is AustinHe started a comedy clubIt's money out there in TexasMan everything big in Texas manIs Austin all fucked upAre you like Austin?
01:21:40I fuck with AustinThey fuck with meIt's changedIt doesn't matter what street shitI'dKnown for and shit like thatBroAustin is like the hippie
01:21:49PlaceThe white placeLike you know what I'm sayingLike the more urban placeSo I'd be going platinum in AustinI used to stay in Austin like 15 years agoAnd that shit was gentrifieda little bit at the time, but I only go back every like four or five years or whatever.
01:22:03And whenever I go back, I'm just like, what the fuck?This place has changed.So much so fast.Yeah.Crazy tech money.All right.Max O'Creen, appreciate you.Everybody go turn my man up on Spotify and all services.
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