No Jumper - OG Gumby Presses Adam for Disrespecting the Hoovers, Goes off on 4xtra for the Carrot Attack & More
Episode Date: July 29, 2025Gumby attempts to press Adam and blames him for everything that's going on in the streets. ----- Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month / @noj...umper Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON / nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT / 4874336901 Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: / 4874336901 / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: / discord Follow Adam22: / adam22 adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right. So I thought that I was doing a Gumbie interview.
He told me, no, sir. We need to switch sides.
He's got to press me. First things first.
Not even press you. You know what I'm saying?
My whole thing is that we got charges on you, bro.
Let's hear him.
My community. First and foremost, you know what I'm saying?
Okay, I can put this right now.
First and foremost, like, it's weird being on the side.
Is it?
Yeah, it's definitely.
I agree, I agree.
That's how I'm supposed to go, no.
But look, at this point in time,
like, we got an opportunity to have a dialogue, bro,
about all the fuck shit you've been having going on up here.
Oh.
And, namely, the shit that you've been having going on with us.
Like, maybe you send this indirectly by association,
but we don't feel that way.
What do you mean?
I mean, you're given opportunities.
who are opposed to my community,
an opportunity to speak ill
and spread propaganda
against us.
Like, do you know you to want
number one contributor to gang violence
in the city?
I did not know that.
Who has used this platform to talk down on the hoover's?
Everybody that's up here.
You got a whole dude up here.
What's the name, clown mac?
That little dude right there?
Crip Mac.
Clown Mac. Like I said.
Clown Mac.
We've never really, like, let him talk all crazy about it.
But, see, just the whole point I'm trying to make.
He got, and this is how I know you, this is how y'all know he lame as fuck.
The motherfucker got Hoover killer, spelled out like in crayon.
He ain't even got it whacked out.
Everything on me, whacked out.
On Hover, I'm really like that.
A hover.
Uh-huh.
But if he had fuck the gays up here, you would have bleep that out.
No, I would not.
Yeah, you would.
Absolutely not. Why would I do that? Who cares?
You woulda. Why? You woulda.
I let people say anti-gay shit on here all the time.
I don't really am I really a fan in your show. I'm saying I feel like you need some whole hovers up in here.
Because like you can all the way up these dudes.
Like on my mama. And then on top of that, wait a minute. Hey, like, how do you support rape?
What are you talking about?
You support rape. You support rapists.
Who? You.
Who?
You.
Who, though?
Who?
Who raped?
Didn't Faux X-A-say?
He knocked somebody out and put carrots in their butt?
He actually denied.
He denied, what?
The knock-out part?
The carrot part.
He said he knocked somebody out, and he kind of hinted that maybe somebody else said...
Why would you even want to hint to that some bullshit like that?
Well, I was the one asking him.
He denied that he had anything to do it.
Damn, all of that.
Let me explain something to you.
My name would never be attached to no faggot shit, no homosexual shit, no snitching shit, no
he's seeing shit on hoover ever
I'm trying to figure out
why did this even this rumor even
come out about this dude
the carrot thing yeah how that even came out
it came out by one of his homeboys calling
in to one of these shows
looking for clout
and told on him he'd a witness
he's telling what's going on I think it was a dude
from Raymond I'm not sure but I peeped
it but my whole thing is that
he never came out and said
this dude right here is lying
he never said he's lying
he told the whole story.
This is how I got out.
He called one of these dudes on the podcast.
So you know that story to be true?
I know that it's to be true from what I've seen on the internet.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
But at the same time, though, like,
I don't understand the philosophy.
Like, I heard you speak on it before.
Like, when they do shit to people like that,
they, like, how does that work?
I mean, yeah, I'm definitely, you know, we joke around a lot,
but I'm definitely opposed to it.
that you play with though that is something you play with well i mean technically a carrot isn't
really yes that's right with a foreign object it's on the scale that's right with a foreign object yeah
you know me that's what we're talking about as long as we're being like 100% serious yes i'm
100% against any putting anything in anyone's ass wait a minute but he's gonna fight
okay listen but i'm saying but you advocated you let this dude come on here and he and he's
talking about this and it's a rumor out here well to be he was denying it okay he was denying that
He personally did it.
Yeah.
But see, if you knock somebody out and you sit there and let somebody around you do anything filed to him,
you're just as culpable as the person who did it, period.
Right.
Period.
I'm sitting here trying to figure out what you go, what you want.
But this is, to be fair, isn't everybody playing these games?
No, fuck not.
Not everyone.
No, the hoop is going to play like that.
We don't play like that.
So it's like a rule.
It's been set down.
Period.
Listen, listen to me.
Listen to me.
If you, if you don't understand this,
see, the devil was sent here to deceive everybody.
These dudes got y'all thinking they us.
They dressed like us, dance like us.
Just go do your history.
The hovers put the Cripping and Crip.
Everything they do comes from us.
Everything.
Just ask them.
Y'all need to be giving me some royalties.
Every time you niggas out there, y'all have a set day.
Okay.
Sevenfolds is the first niggas that had a set day ever in history,
in gang history and gangdom.
Really?
really gang shit
they're not well okay so now back
to that though like you
are the motherfucker that's giving motherfuckers a leeway
to do the bullshit they're doing like
this motherfucker must be cursed something because everybody
to come up here everybody that's being your shit
either dead ass bone
I mean probably an insanely
in jail percentage
it's small as small as man all you do is
promote gang bullshit in the community
I don't they were promoting it
what it is you know what these dudes ain't no fucking
rappers well
show me some
But we're open to talking to people who are just gang members as well.
For what?
What reason, though?
I mean, you are appreciative of people giving you a platform, right?
Well, me?
Yeah.
Not really.
But I've seen you on a real tune and all these platforms.
I have because, but I was thrusted in this position.
People called me in the talk, just like you called me in here.
Right.
I didn't come in here and just knock on your dope, like all these weird ass people trying
to make you see.
Well, I saw you, I saw you talking about me in an interview.
I reached out because I wanted to have some communication.
Yeah, I have been talking about you because, see, over there in our community,
we feel like you on the other side.
Really?
Yeah.
I feel like I'm the bone back.
No, no, no.
Your name's,
your name's Adam 12 from neighborhood.
That's what you call you on gang.
What the fuck you mean?
I don't think nobody really thinks that I'm playing sides, right?
Yeah, yeah, we do.
Yeah, yes, the fuck we do.
Why would you think?
I explained to you before about this before I talked to you in the conversation in the phone.
I explained to you, yes, we did.
When you told me you was going to pay me for coming on this motherfucker.
And you told me he was going to donate something to my community,
you know, because I explained to you.
all this bullshit is going on.
You're kicking up all this shit.
But what you're doing for somebody
that's not in the game?
What you're doing for them people?
We just did a big giveaway
at a women's shelter
in North Hollywood.
A women's shelter.
Man.
Women's shelter.
Well, it's like families that don't have fathers
and stuff.
That's what you do.
Stop helping people
who y'all think need to help.
Help the people who really need it.
The boots on the ground.
All these dudes out here talking about...
So it's like abused women.
And like...
Well, I feel for the abused women and their kids.
Yeah.
But right now, I'm from Hoover.
I'm a gang member.
We come first at this point.
Right now, what we're talking about, we're talking about, we're talking about,
since you had the nigga Trail on here, T-Rail, them do's on here,
everybody on your platform, right?
Everybody in your platform being from neighborhood.
That's not true.
Who else?
Ann Hafe is from A.
That's right now, though.
That's right now.
That's right now.
We're talking about for the past 10 years.
But there's only three, really, right?
Brick baby, Krip Mack, and Forrester.
Okay, and each one of them was on here talking about what?
I mean, they were on the podcast.
Bullshit.
How are they bullshit?
Like, what are they talking about?
Everything y'all talking about got these.
Okay, good news, current events, all that shit.
Niggas is in jail, dead, right?
Fingers blew off, all type of shit.
We're fucking with your podcast.
I'm saying, wait, let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you feel?
Because you're a journalist, right?
No.
You're not?
I don't use that.
What do you use?
A podcaster.
Okay.
See, that term right there gets you around the corner where you get to do the bullshit you're doing.
Because, see, let me show you.
Let me show you.
Because, see, a journalist, right?
You have a responsibility.
You're trying to get away from the responsibility that you have to report accurate and precise news.
Not no motherfucker that came off the corner.
Wait, listen to me.
I never said that was a journalist.
I'm a podcaster.
We have conversations live in real time.
That's not really what a journalist does.
A journalist compiles all the facts.
They go out and seek out information,
and then they present it in an authoritative fashion
where they can say these are the facts.
So what you basically are saying is that this podcast
is basically for the play.
It's for bullshit.
I'm just saying that we don't carry the level of weight
that I think the word journalist implies.
Okay.
That's like...
We're just talking about topics.
That's like a cop-out.
not really can i just not be a journalist like none of the other podcasters that you know do you hold them to
that standard right yes that's the fuck we're gonna do right now no because he at nobody else is like
listen listen wait wait pay attention that's like a level of weight that i never asked for and that
nobody when they starts a podcast expects to be held to that standard how the fuck is not when you
wait wait listen when you got the power within your cameras within your media within your platform
right to project a situation a certain way
right
any situation
any situation at this point
what I'm speaking about is that look
you didn't gave all them dudes
opportunity don't you see
that's the fruit that made no jumper
bad every look all them dudes
is in jail all they talking about
one person what about
clown Matt got a gun charge
yeah that's that's in jail
I'm not talking about from your platform
right my whole thing let me get this understood
if these dudes come up here
and they say whatever they say,
they got to be held responsible for it.
That's not your fault.
But it's just at the same time,
you as a podcaster
or as a,
I guess that's what you want to call yourself.
I believe you have some type of responsibility
when you're empowering bullshit.
Don't you think that a person like me
having a platform and choosing to give jobs
to gang members who are trying to change their life?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You see, that's like you're saying,
you're trying to do good and bad at this.
same time.
No.
I'm all good.
No, no, it's not all good.
What's the bad part?
Because if you're in, listen, I'm a gang member.
Been from this shit since
fucking junior high school.
You're doing, all you're doing is basically
empowering gang members.
Exactly.
Stop.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, but you're empowering
gamers to be gang members.
No, you, wait, stop.
Why not?
You think four extra went out,
and with all the money you didn't gave him,
you thought he didn't went out and helped it.
The poor in his neighborhood.
Well, I know that he's able to live his life without having to commit crimes or do illegal things in order to get money.
That's good enough for you.
What about everybody else?
It actually is a start.
And that's a good thing, though.
But at the same time, if you promote bullshit, that's what you get.
But what's the bullshit part?
The bullshit is when they up here, you just had the whole little situation is 607 on on the gang.
I'm saying, I don't know what y'all got going on.
But that dude says he's for my gang.
Whether he is or he ain't, that's up for debate.
right but y'all don't got no right to press him about nothing what did i press him about i didn't say
speaking to you speaking to anybody who did but who i mean four extra kind of pressed them yeah yeah i'm
saying and then on top of that you were supposed to be here that day no you wasn't supposed to be here
that day no i was on vacation you was on vacation yeah and actually no i was in texas with some other hoover's
filming videos yeah i'm knowing about that as well i'm saying so i'm saying so on your platform right that whole
little situation that just happened right there, right?
That could have been a whole gang war right there.
A lot of the shit that you do and you allow, because you allow it.
I mean, really all I did was I let them do a podcast.
Okay, you let two rival people do a podcast that you already know got an issue.
At no point in that interview was the word Hoover ever said.
No, I understand that. I understand that.
I get that.
Forrest, definitely didn't even know that.
I agree.
I agree with that he don't, he don't, I, I peep him out.
I peep him out. I know who I know exactly who he is.
I know exactly who he is
I found out that he even was from
Hoover in St. Louis
like about five minutes before
the whole... The same time we fucking did.
Yeah, I had no idea until that moment.
Yeah, I'm saying so
I'm saying so
see how the respect for you is to others
but see when it comes to our community you play.
Why do you think that?
Because you just said
Hoover, Hoover, whatever,
remover, right? Right.
But when my nephew Pope was up here the last time,
he was up here.
But you've never heard me say that word.
No, stop.
I ain't talking about that word.
Catch up.
Catch up.
When my nephew Pope was up here last time,
you asked him some bullshit.
I asked him how serious that word is.
Stop, stop, stop before we go.
And we don't, don't do that.
Don't do that, bro.
Don't do that.
I just don't want you acting like,
I said it when I did.
I didn't say you said anything.
I'm just saying, don't even play with that.
I'm not here for no cloud.
I'm not here for none of that, bro.
I don't really know too much about the podcast
You know what I'm saying
And then you know
There's a lot of people from Hovers
Against us being up here fucking with you
Really?
Right yeah
I just told you
Your name is Adam 12
Adam 12
I could get used to that
From neighborhood
Not from neighborhood
Yeah
That's what you're from
You support them
No
You support them
I support them sure
Yeah
Then you're from neighborhood
No
I support all hoods equally
Okay then
Well we're our equal share at
Huh
How you got all these dudes
dudes up here and they ain't gonna have nobody. Of course you had
the little rap dudes, you know what I'm saying from our community.
Of course, that's just like a token
nigger. No, that ain't what we about, bro.
I mean, I'm not interviewing people because
of where they're from. I'm interviewing them.
Based on their talent, their personality.
What talent for extra guy?
He's extremely entertaining.
People love them.
I agree.
And I mean, I'm just saying, like, at no time
have I been like, oh, I need to do some sort of
like equal opportunity thing
with all the different hoods.
I do want to tell everybody's stories.
Damn everybody's stories.
Because everybody that speaks shouldn't be speaking.
And you know that.
I don't really agree with that.
Shit.
You'd have to do something pretty extreme to not be worth having an opinion.
Not having an opinion, right?
But see, sometimes your opinion overshadows what needs to be said.
See, if everybody got an opinion, it depends on what situation you're in.
Everybody's, everybody opinion don't matter.
If you ain't willing to die about your opinion,
you're able to die about your opinion?
My bad, my bad.
I ain't got all this.
Hello, hello, hello, hello.
Yeah.
I'm eager to, you're really going to smoke that thing?
Yeah, like, that's right.
Jesus.
Only God.
So yourself.
That's a gumby blunt, all right.
But yeah, back to you, though.
Yeah, oh, I got to get a photo just before you light that thing.
That's too hard.
Oh, what?
That's hard.
That's crazy.
you know what else what else is adam 22 fucked up on
so let's go back to your
your uh your donation or
your help in our community how are we gonna make that out
because that's part of the reason why I'm here
yeah we gotta figure something out yeah I'm down
I'm saying so what we're figuring out I don't know
we can work on the off camera I guess but do you know anyone has like a charitable
organization I do I do I do but at the same time
like I said you say you're not biased
Why we ain't doing this interview in the hovers?
You scared?
I do almost all my interviews here.
Okay.
Well, I'm saying, I'm interviewing you right now.
This ain't your interview.
This is mine.
Remember?
You're going to start a podcast?
Oh, me?
Of course.
I already have one.
Checking ain't cheating.
Like and subscribe.
Only real shit.
Oh.
Wait, so big you did checking in and you did checking your chin?
No, checking ain't cheating.
It's only cheating if you ain't checking.
Wait, checking ain't cheap?
Checking.
Hold up.
Bag up, bro.
That's my I said.
I said, checking ain't cheap.
Cheating. Checking ain't cheating. Got it. Okay.
You get that? You understand the meaning that?
Well, it took a second, but yeah, I got it.
Okay. What you want? You're good?
Yeah, yeah. You're smooth?
I just, I want the people to know that how me and you actually have a bit of a relationship going on off camera that.
We've had a lot of, like, relatively pleasant cameras. I know you got to do your thing here.
I'm not doing no thing here. I'm the same with you as I was on the phone. Don't do that.
I'm not. I mean, you're boys.
No, no, we ain't boys. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got the phone conversation recorded. I'm pretty sure you do too.
Hey, no, I don't.
Okay, well, I do, because that's how you and whack play up here.
No, that's a whack thing.
No, whoever thing, I'm just letting you know, I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
Whatever I say in front of you, I can say in front of any nigga, anybody, period.
My name is Gumby.
I'm from Hoves Street.
Now, back to you, though.
I was explaining to you about how you had a dude up here talking about that he
participated at least.
Right.
Well, he never confirmed it or not to care of the, but, I mean, he let me out.
Okay, well, let's just talk about this.
I'm hoping, you know what I'm saying?
From my reports, I heard that didn't even happen.
I'm saying it was just some other freaky shit bullshit.
But I'm trying to explain to you.
Listen,
like, they portray my community like
we are homosexuals.
Like, we are probably some of the
most homophobic people because of that.
Really? I never heard that.
Yeah, I'm letting you know.
If a nigga get caught playing with his booty in
from Hoover, he getting beat the fuck up and chased off.
I have seen a little bit of,
Evidence of that.
Yeah.
It's the rules.
Okay.
I'm just saying, like, that's just how the shit go.
Right.
And if I wasn't who I say I was, I wouldn't be able to sit here and speak to you.
Like I'm speaking.
Right.
Period.
So now that, that's to stick to, I'm saying, the no jump of shit.
Yeah.
What you got up in there?
You look high.
What's you got going on?
Smoking a little weed.
This is just coffee, though.
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
It's not a gummy blunt.
That's right.
Okay.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
So, okay.
your narrative that you said in this real tune video or whatever
you said basically when T-Rell left
to do back on FIG, FIG immunity world, and left no jumper
that I was so mad at him
that I took it out on all the Hoovers and started fucking with all these
neighborhoods to get at him.
Yes, whatever y'all had going on.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, see, this is, you know, that's just not true.
No, that's like, that may not be the way.
way it seems to you.
I don't see him really having almost any relationship with the hoobers, right?
Like, he's never done footage.
He's never filmed there.
He's had, like, very limited numbers of hovers on his podcast from my perspective.
For me, from my perspective, like, when I hired Brig Baby, the last thing that we were
talking about was like, ooh, this will show T.Rell.
And in fact, they were cool.
They did podcasts together for a while.
I've seen that as well.
This whole shit, I'm kind of confused by it.
Even for extra, like, me and for extra knew each other.
a long time and I had to like explain to him what back on fig was but a couple years but I'm
saying like we were cool with each other for a long time and wait wait that was before he came up here
and pressed big brick baby up here I've known him since before that yeah okay okay but all I'm
saying is that for extras didn't even know what the fuck back on fig was I had to tell him back on
fake we're not even talking about that no more okay my son my nigga smile I'm going but listen
what I'm saying is that so you knew him before
I think I interviewed him once, maybe twice before that.
Okay.
I'm saying so you interviewed him once or twice, right?
Uh-huh.
But what blew him up is when him and Rick Baby got into it about that situation
with Big Baby and DW Fly.
I mean, that was one of many things.
No, no, no, no.
That was one of the main things.
I think that was probably one of many things.
Okay.
Well, I think that was probably the most important.
What do you mean?
I mean, to be honest, this ham thing has been the most.
insane one.
That's what got the New York Post
writing about him and shit.
I agree. See, God don't like
evil. You think
that was a karma thing?
The girl God don't
like evil.
Hope it out.
You're going to see it. I'm sorry. I'm not
even that type of dude, I'm saying.
I'm kind of pissed off that he did get his hand
blew off. I said, I hope you have a speedy
recovery. Why is that? Because
my nephew
Jap getting out of jail.
Gang shit, nigga.
That's crazy.
And see, my whole thing with you is this, though.
Like, instead of promoting the violence in our community,
let's have a spelling be with these niggas.
See, I smart y'all kids are.
I bet my home girl can beat y'all home girl.
Bray in here.
Like, why are we not doing something positive with this opportunity?
See, because if we was all in jail,
all this tough shit, ain't none of that shit in prison.
Ain't none of this shit right here you're talking about.
Squabble of niggas in the county jail.
Kids fight, grown, men kill, bro.
So I've heard.
Gang shit.
Where were we?
I don't know where you went to.
Where you go?
Well, once you're done pressing me about certain things,
then I'm going to start trying to get you to do your life story.
So you just let me know.
Just keep going because we still got a little pressing to do.
But I'm just saying, so you mean you tell me that like...
But, you know, job is a good example of somebody who I had on
the podcast many years ago.
Many years ago.
Same thing,
trayway back in the day.
Both could be out within like a year.
Both of them.
My nephews. Both of them.
It's going to be a big movement with them both on the streets.
I agree.
But see, at the same time is that, look, though,
well, the only thing I'm saying is that I'm not tripping on what you got going on with them.
We all see the road that they didn't travel with and everything that's going on.
My whole thing is that on the gang,
like you need to stop empowering people to do wrong, bro, to my community.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's what's going on, bro.
That's what you're doing.
But who?
Who are we talking about?
All the neighborhoods you had up here.
Brie baby.
Never said a bad word about the hoover's on the podcast.
He didn't.
Four extra.
Never said a bad word about the hovers on podcast.
And I respect that.
And we're not going to do.
not going to do the thing.
No, they said bad shit.
They sublimity said bad shit
that went over your head because you don't know.
Okay.
No propaganda and all other bullshit.
And ain't nobody going to tell you the truth.
We ain't had an opportunity to tell our truth.
You can have four, five, six, seven, different,
eight neighborhoods up here.
On who.
And respect to all my love and respect to all my real-knicks from the neighborhood.
I'm gang.
Like, so I'm saying, like, what you got going on?
You with them?
No.
In the neighborhood?
Absolutely not.
What you is?
Skin here?
White boy, Nassie low rider?
What you beat?
None of the above.
You're a skateboarder.
Normal person.
No, you're a skateboard.
BMX rider.
I know who you is.
I know who you came from.
I haven't wrote BMX, buddy, seriously, in 10 years.
I know.
I know about your first podcast.
I was, I don't know of people that was, that you know from back then.
Like that.
I don't even trip.
None of your business.
I hope.
I hope, though.
But at the same time, though, like, remember that party you went to?
The porno party.
Stop playing.
You were talking about.
Yeah, stop playing.
Yeah.
I was there that day.
you're at that party you see me you don't don't don't do that don't do that the riffrabs you
talked about on hove i'm one of them so what's hiding i'm a riffraff yeah that's you said on your
podcast i don't think i've never used that word yeah you and bit you and you said at the end they
start letting the riffraffs in nigga i don't look like no riffraff i'm far from it i don't know
i'm hoping you wasn't i'm hoping you wasn't right i mean i didn't know you're at the parties
yeah he did you did brick baby knew really he knew yeah they knew all of them know conrad from the
I have, all of them was there.
I was there.
I'm the nigga that had the big blunt.
The same blunt you see here,
I had it at the party then.
So what were the vibes when you saw them at that party?
I didn't know about this.
Well, yes, you did,
because you talked about the next day on the fucking podcast.
I didn't talk about the fact that you were there, though.
I didn't know who you were until I watched that one real tune video
with you and the other guys.
I'm not speaking.
You didn't know who I was,
but I know who you were, right?
And I'm telling you that the same party that she was at,
with all the 60s.
Uh-huh.
Right?
I was there.
A couple of them, yeah.
A few of them.
I fuck with Conradan Brick.
I mean, I don't go to fuck who you fuck with.
I'm just saying who you don't fuck with.
You don't fuck with us.
Why do you think that?
Because I'm just telling you.
I talk to Trayway all the time.
Treyway, that's my nephew in jail.
Right.
I'm just saying.
That's your token hoover.
That's your token hoover.
I talk to big deal all the time.
That's the homie.
But I'm saying, them you know token homies.
I'm just saying, I don't really play sides like this.
I am so much less concerned with what hood.
people are from than you are.
Wait, wait, stop.
I think you've got to understand that to understand me.
Okay, no, this is what I'm saying you.
This is what I'm saying to you.
And this is why I'm trying to explain to you that you, that thinking right there is
empowering and emboldened people.
Not caring about what gang people are from.
Yes, because of this right here.
Listen, if you, like I said before, my community already sees from neighborhood.
Your name is Adam 12 from neighborhood.
I'm gang.
Oh, what is thinking from?
Oh, gang.
Oh, God.
He got even more specific.
On gang.
No, no.
No, no, no.
None of them think that for the record.
Okay.
Well, I don't know.
We guys ever rolling 40s is Adam from here.
They're going to say, hell the fuck, no.
I mean, we don't know you on their side.
I don't play favorites.
You just on their side.
Oh, yeah, you do?
No.
Okay.
So it's our turn.
Like, your shit going down here without us.
What?
Yeah, it's going here.
No, it's been a good way.
It's been a good month.
Yeah.
Well, besides that.
I'm saying, that's the only thing,
what you got to blow people hands up around here before you get some good numbers what's
how are the niggins i'm actually very opposed to that yeah you sure yeah okay i'm just saying
no way my whole thing is that like my whole thing is that like like i think it's about time
i'm saying the industry open the doors i'm saying and hear our side of the story all you hear about
us is we this we that oh they gay they gay they get that but everything they do is gay what's you
mean you never heard that like actually yeah what you mean i'm saying what's the word they use
the disrespectful word
disrespectful word? The disrespectful word
we don't say? But I didn't think that was
meaning like actually gay. I thought
it was just like a dis.
I know he plans still be right now.
No, no, no, no, no. Stop playing
Adam. Come on, man. Like, listen to me. Like, listen to me, bro.
Like, I don't know. Like, I'm not one of these dudes, bro. I'm
already going to hell, bro. I love how you always say that.
I am. I am. So what I'm trying to explain to you,
listen. Like, our core
where we're from, like, we're really good people.
I'm not saying nobody else.
I'm just saying you're giving them opportunities, right?
And it's a big major platform, right?
Won't you give us our opportunity to do something good, bro?
I'm saying?
Right.
I mean, I definitely haven't stopped giving out opportunities.
And definitely the opportunities I have given out were never based on what
who anyone was from outside of considerations about people being able to get along.
How you did T-Rail now, T-Rail and the other home.
some confidence. What do I do to them? Like, you just, every since you start fucking with them,
like, you just shifted everything in your, it's like every, like, this ain't just our opinion.
This is everybody opinion across the United States. I'm not saying it's not true.
You can say it, but you can say, whatever the fucking, I don't think anybody who seriously watches
the podcast and I'm going to be real, like, I'm in the Reddit every day. I'm in the comments
every day. I've never really seen anybody who really watches the podcast thinking that I'm like
so in favor of the neighborhood cribs because I don't like T-Rell. Like, honestly,
that's a new argument
from my perspective. I mean, but this is
just look at the succession of things.
I already got on even
about that. I'm sorry. I don't know.
Apologies about that also.
I hope. Yeah, because niggas going to get on your bumper about that.
Like I keep telling you, bro, we're breeding different
over here. They plan with y'all.
Like, literally, like, see,
we've been blackballed
out this industry for a long time, right?
I'll let's talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, we need to talk about that as well.
up. Where did that
begin?
It began with...
It began...
You want to get a mic too?
Come on.
Up to you.
Come on.
What Trigg got?
Trig was supposed to be up here right now, too.
Okay.
But at the same time, listen.
My...
Because you've been around to see the origin of it, presumably, right?
But not presumably, for sure, nigger.
For sure.
How old are you?
Oh, me? I'm 50.
I've been from this shit since I was 10.
I've been claiming this shit since I was 10.
I got put on in junior
high school. Crazy
stories. A motherfucker, my brother got
killed a motherfucker named
poop from 9-duce.
He didn't like my brother, so he's sick
Bambino and
a fucking baby day day on me in
Little Chili front yard.
Welcome Pope to the podcast.
Gang shit. So ugly.
Hey, guys, shit. Hoover, though.
Oven this, over that, though. Stop
playing, though. And we look better than
fools. That's not playing. Let's not playing.
Like, go. Stop playing. Stop playing.
got all y'all shit from us. Stop playing.
Okay, how they dress, how they act,
all that. Right.
So,
do you remember
when the Hoover's reputation was
not as controversial, and then
it became that at a certain point? Like, what was
the biggest point where
it shifted, where you started to feel like it was
enemies against everybody?
That was all from the beginning.
From the very beginning. Like, I can
only explain to you, you know what I'm saying? From, like,
what I'm saying? Like, the
80s on up and said I went to jail
in 94 you know what I can
you through that real quick if that's what you want
I said you know what this is
like that's a gumby blunt
all right
just let you let you let you know what you mean
this is no you are in this way
I'm about listening I'm gonna do
like all right bro
like I promise you
yeah I promise you
I promise you on hova
guy and shit
man we need a torch for that time
I'll have it in the fucking
we left it in the hammer
we left it in the hammer
I'll hovel pulled up in the Hummer.
The Hummer is insane.
I don't guy, stop playing with me, though.
We put up eight thick in the motherfucking truck.
Just hold on.
Don't even trip, though.
Like, my whole thing is that, like, we're not here.
Like, the whole thing about it is that, like,
well, I personally feel, right, that you got,
I won't even say it like that,
because I don't want to be disrespectful to nobody, you know what I'm saying?
But at the same time, you got a bunch of bullshit going on in your mess, right?
And ain't nobody investigating.
The name of my shit is checking.
ain't cheating.
It's only cheating
if you ain't checking.
I'm hoover, though.
Pay attention.
See, a lot of people,
they try to impress their self
to be bigger than they are.
But us,
it's the difference
because we don't.
Okay.
The city, see who we is.
The whole city ganged up against us.
That's what Wack always says.
The reason why I respect
the Hoover is because
I've never seen a hood go against everyone else in the city.
And guess what?
We stood on business.
Mm.
That's it.
That's all.
Everybody peace treating doing all that shit.
This is the thing, though.
See, the difference, what you, the difference from us and what you guys have seen already with the big youth situation and extortion and all that shit.
Like, y'all ain't got, in our community, they don't got to pay us rent.
They help raise us.
Mm.
What you mean?
pay rent, we're gonna press some people that love us.
No, we don't do that.
See, over here, we got a different philosophy.
Like, we don't got to be tough all the time.
We only be tough when we're supposed to be tough.
When our name called, we're gonna show out every time.
We're gonna have all the other niggas talk about this, that, and the other.
Talk about how the whole city, Crips and Bloods and ganged up against one gang,
and we still here, hoover, though.
Who, though?
It's still like that?
they ain't never changed
I know you see it
I mean I don't know
Have you ever came hanging in hovers
I just asked him
I just ask him
I seen you learn a lot of white boys pull up though
So you pull up
What's wrong with you?
Why are you scared?
No I'm done
I'm sorry
Ain't the only white boys
That people put
Did they flip pull up
Tommy G pulled that right
Yeah
So where you are Adam
Let's look
I'm saying
When we're doing this
You can come to
You can come to
And explain who you are
We're gonna take you on fig
With a hose out
No we can't do that
No, we're going to.
We can't do that.
We have to.
No, we can't give him no extra content.
He can be trying to have his wife fuck the prostitutes on.
Freak off.
We ain't doing it.
We ain't doing nothing.
I'm not a little.
Oh, man.
What I'm saying, though.
Some real shit, though, like, literally.
Like, I'm saying, like, why y'all don't think we worthy of?
What y'all worthy of?
I mean, I haven't been to that many neighborhoods in L.A.
You just went to the 40s' whole set day.
You didn't take to Huber's that day.
I bet you won't.
And I feel, like, I told you before.
I feel like that question you asked my nephew,
and we ain't going to keep going, we ain't going to linger on it.
But I feel that they put that in your head to ask
why the fuck would you ask that shit?
I feel like you would be amazed
if you understood how little conversations
I ever had with Brick Baby, 4-X's
about the Hoover.
This is just not horror.
We're not talking about that.
But then you know, I'm from who you know what that means,
so why would you do me?
We're not even going to linger on that.
No, I'm going to do that because I already told me, Phil's here.
I'm going to gang.
Your team would have been having a shoot out with me
on gang, because we don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
But let me, I'm just,
He knows, though, how much I was not going to put that clip out.
That clip didn't come out from once.
I told me to put it out, though.
He told me to put it out.
Okay, we were talking when we get back on.
Oh, who I told me to put it out?
You want to know why?
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
Because at the end of the day, like I told who you fuck with, but don't try to disrespect me.
Like, I really want to.
I really want to find you on the dead hummus.
You should have.
I would want the phone.
No, he made a sign her name in and all the type of shit in here.
I don't give a fuck.
I went to jail.
about this whole shit.
In real life.
In real life.
He got a career.
He got shit going on.
He's trying to be a rapper and all that of this shit.
You're going to support my boy Polk on the gang because he hot on hovel.
Fax.
On guy.
And I got a shout out my boy, uh, uh, G. Perico too on the gang.
Trey.
He's been tapping out.
On hovel.
He's all the real people, bro.
See, the whole thing about it is, listen.
Checking ain't cheating.
Just listen to what I'm saying.
Checking ain't cheating.
Right?
Don't listen with a motherfucker telling you out they mouth.
Just go back and check.
you know what I'm saying?
Like the whole little shit you got going on
Kingfield.
I got one thing to say
when you was like, on one of your interviews like
oh yeah they scared of the hovers, right?
Everybody's scared of who. What you mean by that?
Who?
Who?
Gang.
Hoved out.
Wait, who did I say was scared of?
You said it on the podcast.
You said, yeah.
They most, hey, they would do.
Everybody scared of hovers like, what you mean by that?
I mean, I was probably just hyping it out
because that's what everybody says.
So that's what you feed off of, right?
So when you run to us, how you feel?
I mean, you guys are cool.
I feel like we have a good relationship,
aside from the end.
Hell no, that's not a good relationship, though.
No?
Hell no.
Me and you have talked a lot.
I feel like you're kind of misrepresenting this.
Oh, hoover you want.
I got every conversation we talk.
Tell his ass on hoover.
Don't they'll fool you like that.
No, I don't play like that.
Don't play like that.
I know that you all.
I know that's how you play up here.
We got a lot of text messages together.
Oh, hopefully we do.
But I know where that's like he's just cool?
Yeah, no.
I think it's.
It's closer to cool than not cool, right?
We're trying to get to understand it.
That's why I think we're doing today.
Yeah, yeah, we're trying to get it.
I would like it if you would take me at face value when I say that I don't have any...
I can't know.
I ain't that type of dude, though.
I've been...
I ain't that.
I don't know.
No, you got to show me just like I'm going to show you just for checking and
ain't cheating me.
If I'm telling you I'm Hoover Gumby, right?
Go back to the oldest niggie that you find from Hoover and ask him about my history.
Mm-hmm.
Go through the...
the penitentiaries.
Ask, have you heard any smut on my name ever?
Nick, not ever.
I'm Hoover.
I am status quo for this hoover shit.
On hoover, nigga.
I ain't never turned nothing down.
For sure.
Dang shit.
That's a hoover do, buddy.
That's the guy out of.
I'm just like, okay, in my head,
if I hadn't ever said something,
I'm good.
Eat this, nigga.
Oh, you said, too?
Did you see that?
I bet it's so.
He doesn't smoke.
I smoke these little tiny things.
Give me one of those.
I smoke in that.
I don't want to get involved with that.
That's too much.
Yeah.
He got a little shirms.
This is the crazy thing about it.
He does a sherman and too also.
You do?
It's a little crack in here.
You want to have a real fun podcast?
We got crack all the time is in there.
Oh, God.
See, this is the best thing about it.
See, look.
I'll smoke out the same time as you.
That counts for it.
Not really.
My eyes going to get a switch.
Oh, wait.
I'll get it.
He think we go lazy school.
On Guy, you think, we don't really hate you that much because we know you the police.
I don't want to go to jail.
On Hoover, you think we go to lace-gloor?
Oh, God.
That's right.
Bro.
What's that's that about?
You think it's unreasonable to not want to smoke a blunt that is, like, longer than my forearm?
Right.
I mean, this is, I just don't think I'm that level of a weed smoker, which I hate to admit.
Yeah.
But do, look, look, on who over, on hover, look, like that.
Yeah, this is, this is, this is a very important plug right here of disorderly conduct.
I'm saying, we make the e-nails.
dabs, we got a dab bar
on gang
See like
The craziest part of the bottom
When you was at that whole little
Pornow party
Being a whole little freak
I didn't do anything sexual
I didn't say you did anything sexual
I was watching the freak part
You're just looking
I'm watching you look
I'm stalking you the whole time
That whole suitcase
The white boy with the whole suitcase
Of the drugs
Remember that?
You were in the room for that
I didn't buy anything off the guy
I just said you bought anything
I just said you bought anything
Some other people I was with.
I know, and I could have laced all y'all and killed y'all.
Is that in your bag of tricks?
What the fuck?
No, that's not in my bag of truth.
You're poison an op?
No.
I wouldn't.
I mean, why not if you go smoke one?
I would.
I would, no.
That's probably less likely to be a couple.
No, that's not, that's not cool.
See, listen, this is I'm trying to explain to this.
This is why I keep going back.
This is why I keep going back to the whole little carrot situation
because it's something else leading to that.
Just because, if,
that didn't or we know it didn't happen the way they're trying to make it seem happen.
And the dude that he's supposed to go down with is partially impaired.
Do you tell you that?
I've heard this.
Okay.
So stop.
So stop.
So stop.
No, not wrong.
So whatever, all the other shit, whether it happened or didn't happen, just the whole point in the whole situation.
Just because of the climate, you had two different situations where you got niggas that's
trying to stay down, called up in situations, right?
because of that situation happened
a blood dude
do the same thing
stick a pickle in a dude from East Coast
ass. I heard about this, yeah.
Okay, so I'm saying.
A retaliatory pickling.
Okay, that's not.
We're not going to play with that right there.
See, I don't, me personally,
I don't think rape with a foreign object.
Obviously, you think it's a joke.
No, I mean,
the fact that people are doing it is pretty...
But you're not speaking out against it.
Hey, in the county, bro, they do all the time.
I never been...
It's not really nice place.
We don't do it.
We don't.
We're supposed to start a campaign against this?
Like, I've already been there.
Been where?
To the county.
You don't want to go there.
And I feel like it's kind of out of my realm.
You're not affiliate, bro.
There's fight nights in there for that.
This the whole point.
Why ain't going to lie you?
So you'll be a word.
Yeah.
But what I'm trying to explain to you is that.
I'm trying to get in where I finish.
No, that's not good enough.
No.
You got to take a stand.
You got to be willing to live in a bad boss.
Well, you got to stand for something.
But that's what I'm saying.
And if I got to be a white boy, I guess I'll be a white boy.
Well, you're going to have to be a white boy.
Oh, here we are.
We're not talking about whether you're a white boy or not.
See, everybody got it fucked up.
See, everybody thinks the hovers against the neighborhoods
and everybody else in the city.
That's not it.
It's war.
The war against the real and the fate.
I'd rather have four or five solid neighborhoods with me than a million
boo-boo-bo-ass hovers.
On the damn.
Because a lot, you never know, too you run to him.
Or it's a sticky situation.
You feel me?
Prison teach you a lot.
I hope it'd do.
So my whole thing is like,
everybody don't really understand my situation,
per se,
but I'll get to that in the minute.
How much?
I'm on you got you on a timer.
You got me on a timer.
I'm getting,
I'm sitting and talk to you all night.
I'm still getting grilled.
I feel like the interview hasn't even started yet.
The interview is on you right now.
No, you're hovel.
We could switch places in the minute.
We could just also have the conversation like this.
I'm perfectly comfortable.
Good job, because I don't feel like...
being you. I know. That's what I'm just saying.
Like, I haven't even got to ask you about
how you feel about it?
That's cool. All right. I like talking to you guys.
You know, all right. You got your five?
Yeah. Because I got my
on Hovah. I believe you.
On Hoop.
That's so no.
Oh, no.
Too far.
You stupid.
You know what you thought this is.
And coming up here playing with y'all.
Who's stupid, for real?
I'm telling you the truth.
Oh, shit.
Dead luckies.
Real life.
Dead hovers, though.
Okay.
On the dead hovers.
There you go.
That's what over.
Don got me on 10.
I'm trying to know 20.
It's going to be a long night.
All right.
So let me ask you another question.
It's my mom birthday.
I got to go take out to eat.
I got another question.
You really believe that people fuck your wife?
I mean, we really got to talk about this more.
No, no.
I'm saying you for this.
Oh, my mom.
I want to have a lot.
I want to ask you a question.
She's done a couple of scenes with other male performers, yeah.
But see, that's her job.
And you was there?
No.
Well, I've done scenes with me, her, and another guy.
But how do you feel about her doing with other people?
Pause.
No gay shit.
Okay.
I was by the side.
No, did he?
No guy.
Well,
I didn't know.
You're going to get off a Diti.
Oh, who are no?
Oh, who don't.
Freight Dity on the gang.
You're mad at that man.
Y'all have been mad at you.
But I feel like that's, okay.
He had other men's come rubbed on his nipples.
That's what I'm saying.
You can't, like.
Oh, who don't try to I get that.
Be his biggest fan like that.
Don't do that.
No, don't do that.
No, now he...
You got to catch on to what he said, gang.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, that's like...
I feel like you celebrating him that much is a little bit over the top.
Considering...
Everybody was welcome to do what he did.
I mean, they can't just the same guy who was throwing the bitch on the ground in the hotel lobby.
It's the same thing.
What the fuck do you mean?
Same bitch that came back.
I got the bitch from hell.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Tell those.
What the fuck?
And that bitch still didn't leave after he did all that.
Hey, how you married somebody that get fucked?
We were actually married before we made the decision to start branching out.
Oh, so you got an open relationship.
Not 100% but in terms of content, yeah, a little bit.
Okay.
You like that type of shit, you get a thrill.
It's all right.
White boy shit, you're a freak.
She had a new scene come on.
I didn't even check out.
I didn't care.
But I should check it out.
Hey, shout out Slim poke.
That's my boy.
Shout of Slim poke.
I seen him lay it down the other day.
He told me.
We're too tight.
Slim poke.
He goes crazy.
That's my brother.
Actually, that's my brother.
You got a blood brother?
Slim Pope.
Shout out Slim Pope.
There you go.
Shout out of Humve.
Gambi.
This is my motherfucker.
Let,
let Gumbi hit his wife.
That's my boy, though.
I don't like that.
I don't know where's it.
I don't know where they say his time right now.
We meet him later on.
It's my shit.
Back to you.
So you want a fucker?
His wife.
Hey, hey.
I know.
Yes or no.
Do you bunny hop?
Yes or no.
What that mean?
White girls.
Do you want a fuck or not?
I'm actually
I don't know, bro.
You don't know her or not.
I haven't even seen her before.
Yes or no?
I don't even know her.
Do you want to fuck it up?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay.
So I haven't ever seen it before.
You want to fuck your wife.
You'd probably want to lay it down.
How do you know?
She looked pretty good.
She's all right.
She has a white ass.
She's an typical white.
She's Armenian for the record.
Oh, yes.
She's Armenian.
I don't know what them is.
Okay, okay.
But I ain't going to look, look, look, look.
No, let me.
Oh, no, no.
You got to be daddy's in your section for me?
On hoover, I do.
I do it.
You want some hovers, giletes?
On hoover, come through.
I'm hoping, mind it.
That's, that's...
We own that.
Don't even trip.
Did they give you some neighbor, pussy?
Not so much.
We could give you some hoversquitty.
Oh, hoover.
And you can put it on the hovers in this bitch.
So, hoover, though.
I don't wear some.
I'm hover though.
I guarantee you to go up.
Look, for the past three or four months,
I love an orange couch.
That don't make you from Hoover, though.
Well, I could think of another example of that.
I wasn't, I was pointing at you.
We both looked back.
I just pressed him about his hat just a minute ago.
Oh, no, I heard that.
Donnie just so happens to have a Mariners hat on.
Wait, really disaffected.
I didn't.
I didn't.
We're supposed to disaffirm this motherfucker.
You get it?
I did.
Go get it so we can finish this interview and it go good.
Say, we got disinfect this motherfucker because you got all type of bad spirits and bad people in here.
You got like any meat juice in here.
gang you do.
I didn't want to say it that way.
You know what I mean?
Like, okay, wait, but I fuck that.
Like, I need to change positions.
You want to flip?
No, you stay there.
Okay.
I'm going to scoot over a little bit.
Scoot over that way.
Because the last motherfucker was over here is when the
a little nigga foe X was over here yelling
in his motherfucker face and I definitely ain't him.
That was crazy.
This is not going to look good on camera.
That's it.
That's it was off the bone.
I'm sorry.
Off the bone.
Oh, boy.
You're supposed to say, y'all's dirty.
He'll go over there, lucky.
He'll come in trim.
You know what you're laughing at the hooping dick of jokes and all that.
You think he's going to be mad that I'm doing this interview?
Hell yeah.
From day one, listen.
I'm a odd lover.
I'm fucking with whoever.
Bro, this is his content, bro.
Yeah, come on.
And they know that already.
Yeah.
As long as he come and get his content in and say what he got to say,
he don't get a fuck about what this man do.
I'm the gang.
I was just doing a podcast where they talked to all kinds of shit about whack
and I just sat there, defended him a little bit.
Longest four extra, whatever it is, come to do what they got to do it and make them irrelevant, they're going to do it.
Make them relative.
Right.
So the content from him, because he's already got his platform, it don't matter.
They're relevant.
But I don't like how you're using your platform because I feel like you're using it against the hooves.
Put the hooves on here.
Let us on the map.
I'll give you guys on it.
We don't need no free passes.
We don't need nothing free, dead homies.
Not like that.
I mean, if you have rappers that are up and coming out of the hovers.
Yeah, we ain't talking about it.
Let's glow them up.
We're not talking about that.
We're not only talking about that.
You're trying to give us the opportunity
that you want us to have.
Whoa.
I'm trying to show you what one do you want?
Hello, hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
What's in that?
Go ahead.
First and foremost, what you got up in there?
That would be clever, though.
That would be clever, though.
That would.
You won't get fast to open their law.
You're going to be shocked.
Oh, look.
We got some sort of doubt.
Let me hear that shit.
Everything 420.
You can have it.
Who are?
But you see, this is the bullshit when y'all go to IDDA.
Y'all go to Ida.
No, I smoke wax, though.
I smoke wax, though.
Everything420.
He's like a headache.
Put that over here.
That's now Hoover property.
You can leave with it.
Don't worry.
Well, actually, we're probably supposed to keep the box.
Has it?
No, no, no, I need the box with it.
Okay, we'll figure something out.
Anyway, what do I have to do to show you that I have no anti-Hoover bias?
I don't think you think I have one.
I do.
And see, I do.
I do.
This is my nephew, right?
I got a bunch of other nephews that whoop foe extra out.
My nephew, T.K., whoopedie, whoop-fotee out too.
On hoover, though.
What you mean?
Like, everybody here and whoopty, he's talking about off the back, off the back.
We don't do nothing off the back.
We need all the tippy top.
We need all off the tippy top.
When the bird come in, bitch, give me mine off the top.
What does this mean exactly?
That means, exactly.
The top versus off the back?
They off the back.
That mean they back there.
off the top
like when you open this bitch
like before I got here
who was first
give me mine first
fuck off the back
like what you want your shit
second for
waiting on your money
now we're off the top
you don't check it
oh it's like a pim thing
no pen thing
I don't
I'm just trying to
catch up here like we ain't stupid
bro we ain't done
I'm just trying to figure out
I'm gonna help you all
I want you to get hot
I want you to get hot
my whole thing is that
I'm just trying to show you that
listen
If you are completely biased in this whole, like my whole thing is that, look, you've given opportunities to people to promote gang violence in our community.
The same thing you just did with the King Pills situation.
That really was really, like, not in my hands.
He tried to fight me.
Why was he trying to fight you?
I guess because...
Because you bullshit.
What?
Y'all be doing in this whole content shit, like, it's all.
It's kind of crazy because, see, you don't really understand that, like, the things that we say on these podcasts and out in public, the people who are not on podcasts who are just watching on their phones, they perceive it a different way.
Some of them might perceive it violently.
Right.
That's why I'm trying not to say anything offensive about anybody's hoods or anything.
So what I'm saying is that if you're giving opportunities to other people, right, to steal their philosophy, their propaganda, they bullshit.
just have truth.
You got to be able to flip the script
and say, okay, well, let me hear what these guys
are the same. Got to say.
You know, I just thought of the best argument
I could possible use. You really don't have an
argument right now. If I was from neighborhood,
why would I do a podcast with Wack
every week? He don't be for them.
What is you talking about?
Wack is from neighborhood.
What the fucking you was going to list off?
It's the biggest option. The whole world,
Wackhamhamter will be near the top of that list.
That's just all recent shit.
That's all recent shit.
But that was a
No, no, we got no, fuck all that.
We got video when Wack 100, right?
It's calling the homies from BPS
and tell him,
don't fuck with the hovers, fuck with the neighborhoods.
That was why I was right.
Yeah, we got that, yeah, it's on the internet.
The nigga Bone can vouch for it.
I have no idea.
Okay.
Because they only internet together.
So from that point on, right?
from that point on
we could just leave it
that whole podcast situation
right you've been an opt to us bro
since which situation though
I just told you how far it goes back
right
when you start fucking whack
whack is really a neighborhood
he got more
love to respect in neighborhood
than probably a lot of places that he go
there's very few neighborhood
members that he speaks to
that's true but the ones he speak to
it's probably once
Me either
But that's besides the point
Him and Brick Babe were both on the podcast for two years
And they never ran into each other
Because we had to keep them apart
Because they didn't want to see each other
Good job
Good job
Like you're giving people opportunities
To fuck their life off is what you're doing
Not really
Yes really
When I hire somebody like Brick Dave
Do you think in any way
I'm saying like hey
You need to incriminate yourself on the podcast
You need to tell all the craziest stories
About the craziest illegal shit you've done
No
In fact
I actually don't care if you talk about your personal life or who you beef with or whatever at all.
If you want to just talk about other people and what's going on with music and other people, like, that is totally fine.
I'm not like, you know, even somebody like four extras who, for however much certain hoods might hate him, he never came on here.
Even when Muchie B was talking crazy about him, he did not come on here and talk crazy about Munchie B.
He never used this as a platform to go in on his ops, besides maybe in a general sense saying that he just doesn't fuck with him.
But he was never using it to like pinpoint certain people and shit on them.
And I agree.
And I appreciate it.
And same thing with Crip Mac.
No, no, Crip Mac got temporarily suspended from the podcast for talking shit about the Hoover's on a live episode.
Okay.
Okay.
But he still did it, right?
So listen.
Yeah.
I'm saying.
And if it wasn't live, we would have edited it up.
It's a different situation because, see, you're giving the whole internet their side of the story.
And you've been giving them away for a long time.
You've been having to have the-
Can you feel?
They didn't have your platform tied up with all their bullshit for a long time.
Don't you want something fresh and new?
Sure.
I'm always looking for something fresh and new.
Okay.
Okay.
So let me ask you this.
We got to get to the bottom of this situation about the whole little situation of the climate that you bring.
You empower people to do bullshit, right?
The whole faux exesuit in the carriage situation, like I'm saying, like, that's not true.
I wouldn't even put that on him.
Right.
But if there's something like that that's in the news, people are making videos about it, it's fully out there.
There's Instagram posts about it.
People are having that conversation.
And then I do an interview with them.
It's only right that I ask him, right?
I'll say, let's just leave it because I feel like some other people are going to come at some plan.
Sorry.
So, yeah.
I mean, I feel like that's the kind of thing that I just need to ask about in order to do a decent interview.
Even if he, if he, like, 100% denied it, it's like we still can have a conversation about it.
I agree you still can, right?
But at the end of the day, right?
The climate that that has caused, right?
The rumors, the rumors, right?
But those rumors existed before I did the interview.
No, not with this individual.
Yeah, but that's what I was asking about,
was what people were already making videos about.
I agree, right?
I might be the biggest platform that touched the subject.
So what I'm trying to explain to you is that.
So it looks like, in our opinion, that you're promoting accessory to rate.
No.
Like, the story is that he knocked somebody out, somebody from over that was partially impaired.
All right.
I got a quote for you, little bro.
Wherever you at, soul or perks, whatever you all, I got a quote for you.
The Mighty Lion, Toys with the Mighty.
that crosses his path
because
to do anything else
would fuck up his reputation
right see
everybody is all excited
about this dude hand getting blew off
all the busters right
I'm not I'm not
I'm sad because I understand
listen I know what's going on
I'm right here
get it
I'm not taking away from nothing from nobody
just gang shit
but you don't take an easy
opportunity to dump on somebody
when they have a case of bad luck
I don't but at the end of the day
like he didn't did a lot of damage
and you helped him do a lot of damage to our community
because of the whole
situation that he has going on with himself
right and what I mean by that is that
you got him up here and he's telling you about
all the non-affiliates that he whipped.
He only got clout because of what?
Because he said he whipped Jap 5.
Right?
That's all.
I give a fuck about no four extra.
What makes him amazing?
What brought, me being a gamer, me being from Hoover,
me having something to say about all these other dudes,
that didn't get me on no jumper.
You had to do your research to see who I was, right?
Well, you got videos about you, yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm saying, like, why does Forexia need to do anything besides just be a compelling personality in order to be on a podcast or do interviews?
That's exactly what he's doing.
He's been a compelling personality, right?
But at the same time, you're not telling all the same.
You're not telling the whole story, bro.
You're telling them about all the times you want.
But I can't make anybody tell the truth.
No, but what it is is that being that you're a journalist, you're supposed to go.
I keep telling you, checking ain't cheating.
I don't think I am a journalist.
I think you are.
I think you are.
Like if someone tells you're a good journey.
Like what if I was supposed to like somehow like go into the jail records or interview a bunch of people independently to find out if these fight stories are true?
Like it's not possible.
No, that's not exactly what I'm telling them because some of them are true.
He's only telling the ones that are true.
You're not telling the ones that everybody in your weight class, everybody in your status, TK for mine tools, my nephew, Groove Mac, the homie from 5-1.
everybody that's in your weight class
from our side, you took a loss to
already, bro.
And it's okay.
I know.
I'm telling you, I know.
Right, but I don't.
I'm telling you, I can't fact check them in real time.
Actually, you actually can.
You do everything else.
This motherfucker is a whole gang haven't.
It's impossible.
You got all these niggas up here talking this, that, and the other.
I'm saying, but at the same time, this is not even about
faux extra.
It's about the climate.
Then you got the whole situation with the dude
just from a, from, what's this shit?
Black, black, black, uh, what's it called?
I'm sorry, I don't even really listen to the young niggas rap no more, but what is the,
out of the jungles?
The, the fucking P4K in them, yeah.
One of them do, the Babystone Gorillas.
One of them dudes supposed to went to jail, right?
And I believe, Anne Hafe was speaking about it.
I'm sorry if I'm mixed, this is from what I remember.
The little dude went in there and got down with somebody.
Right.
And he felt the niggas was going to stabbing.
So he got up out the tank.
Okay.
Right.
I'm just trying to show you,
you are enabling these people to create stories.
Because see, now the atmosphere in the county jail is that everybody's on edge.
Niggas don't know if I get out with this nigga.
If he fin to stab me, fuck me, or what?
But don't you think that if I stop doing podcast,
that the climate would be exactly the same
because people are still going to want to have these
conversations with people like for a shirt.
If anything, I feel like I'm probably more restrained
than a lot of other people who might be doing this conversation.
I agree because see, they all,
they are just up and coming.
You're big time.
There's no jumper on hoverado.
So what I'm saying to you is that
you should have some type of
ethical code to say,
wait a minute, guys.
Because see what they'd say and do out here,
these little kids in the streets
it's acting upon
and you are facilitating the bullshit
but my whole community
feel like you are oppressing us
because you're giving
these dudes airtime
and you don't even know what's going on over here
I think a more realistic narrative
is that I'm giving people opportunities
in media no no no no no doing something legal
let me explain some to you see that's the cop-out
and they can really talk about whatever they want
Exactly, but it's just the thing, though.
That's what comes in the bias part coming in.
If you're not biased, they're not supposed to say certain shit.
They're not supposed to be able to say certain shit or talk about certain shit.
Because you're not biased.
You're not for the gays or against the gays.
You're not biased.
So therefore, you're not going to let the gays talk about the straights and the streets talk about the gays.
You're not going to do that because you're biased.
You're not doing that.
You're not doing that.
Your whole platform.
Whoever wants to talk, talk.
I mean, I'm not like, if anything, I would say, I'm pretty loosey-goosey with who
I let on the podcast.
What that mean?
I let a lot of people on.
I have more of an open door policy than most people who do podcasts that are this size, you know?
Like if somebody reached out and said, hey, someone just told a story about me on the podcast,
I really want to get my side out there.
I mean, there's a pretty decent chance that we're going to be like, all right, let's do it.
We've definitely done so in the past.
Well, you probably be more selective.
And that's another thing I was getting to.
I'm saying?
It's whole King Pills shit.
Right.
I'm saying.
We were texting each other back and forth from that.
I'm saying?
And that whole little situation
and made a few people upset.
Which part?
From the beginning to the end,
it's all been messy, bro.
All been messy, right?
Me bringing up the fact that he censored out the gang,
this is from his song,
in front of somebody who is from one of the gangs
that would be offended by one of those terms.
So y'all,
I play a lot of games and y'all put a lot of people in the spot, right?
Let me explain something to what you did to that man, right?
Mm-hmm.
You just made him sacrifice the life that he's living right now for your views.
King Bill.
Hell no.
Anne Hefe.
And Hefe.
But what is he sacrificing in his life?
He doesn't seem too bothered.
Well, I understand.
See, he's very professional.
Right.
And he keep it clean.
I know him.
I know of him.
I'm saying through a few other homies over here.
I know.
Right.
So he keeps a professional.
But see, that's to say,
he was a professional.
This dude just,
disrespect to his neighborhood.
And he said, no, I didn't mean you.
For me, personally,
that ain't going to be good enough.
Right.
But, I mean, I was really asking him about removing it from the song,
which if anything is kind of an olive brand threat not even not at all not at all because you brought it up
you brought it up and had already like talked about it on his channel and made a video saying that
they had a conversation so I figured that they were on good terms you figured without checking
I keep telling you checking ain't cheating it's only cheating if you ain't checking it was in the
middle of a four hour live stream for a live stream about what I mean we do it over and over and
over every week I understand what do you talk about on this live stream
what's going on in the culture
what's going on in our lives
what's going in gang culture
rap music gang culture
so why are you so concentrating
on gangs like what's that about
it's a big part of hip-hop
it really is it really influenced
a lot of areas in our life
in our culture it has
but at the end of the day right
you got to pick aside or be neutral
neutral
you're neutral
and make it neutral
for the past eight years
you've had these dudes up here
doing all type of dumb shit
and no mama who I did was
to bring this dude Tony Warwich up here
Honestly I was involved with that
Yeah you sound like you was involved in it
I was I don't bleak I'm just saying like ain't no
First on let me let's first off let me let's first off
I think he's friends with flaco
Okay
Who the fuck is that?
Flaco
The fed dude
A fat dude
He's on here
You here?
No
Oh, yeah.
Who he spit on?
This kid, 16 shot him from Chicago.
He's like a...
He's spit on him.
He's like a YouTuber and Flaco.
Well, no, no.
Flago got spit on and then spit back.
See, that...
Kind of a dry...
See, like, I got...
Like, I was telling you before,
like, we got...
We got...
Like, it's like, my whole thing is that, like,
I don't even play with people.
I don't know who Flacco is.
I'm saying?
I'm hoping he ain't got nothing against me.
but if he do, we can deal with that.
Well, he said he was going to do a Young Hawk interview.
That's far.
That's fine.
He does do interviews here, but I feel like he was,
I don't know if he was planning on doing that on his channel.
Why would you even bring this dude name up?
Like, this is my whole thing.
Like, see, this is the whole thing
with you platform podcast type dudes, right?
See, I'm really from this gang, right?
I'm really from this gang.
I don't know nothing but this gang, right?
So, this is what we're going to,
do from this day forward.
Because I said,
you guys are the media.
You guys are the press.
You got to set, press,
the hood, press,
how do y'all want to do it.
Listen.
So if the news media
sland is your name,
right?
You go about it
civically, you sue them.
Get some money out of them.
Maybe.
Well,
slander my name.
Whenever I catch you.
Even the news?
No, we're talking about these podcasts.
Oh, okay.
So I'm saying?
Because we mentioned this dude
who's the whole PC
It's all your fault.
It's all,
well, actually, it's full extra fault.
I mean, I can't bleep his name out if you want.
Yeah, yeah, we can't.
But no, I'm saying it's actually faux extra fault
in actual actually why all this shit went on.
Why you say that?
Touch I'm a real nigga.
Always have, man.
I ain't been nobody with me, right?
This dude,
He who name should not be spoken.
He goes and lists some bloods from a whole other city to go against four extra.
Okay.
Now, this individual...
Because he like King Pill and...
Well, he's from Pomona.
He's not really from Hover.
He's from the IE area.
Oh, okay.
He who named we shall not speak.
But he was kind of the tour guide on the thing where they went to his name of him.
This dude is saying he's from nine-fold.
So why you didn't take him to nine-fow hoes?
He bamboozled somebody down there,
and they thought that it was something to help our community,
get some shine, and then understand they're motive behind it.
See, we're from home.
We'd be for the 40s anyway.
We don't need nobody help, especially no niggas from Pomona.
And then on top of that, this weird-ass nigger,
bring some PDLs to Hooverhood.
I don't know about y'all,
but that's very disrespectful to us.
And he only did that is because he has a situation of his own.
So the situation is that he got high off Crystal from my understanding.
So this TV is somebody from 60s.
All right.
Then when the homies found out about it,
And he had an issue coming.
He PCed up.
I mean, he went to protective custody and told the police, police, police, police.
The hoover is going to kill me.
And this nigga from 60s got my TV.
So first thing you're not in prison is that homosexuals, snitches, and PCs,
don't get no action at a real nigga.
So we're not going to let this buster get it for extra who are real niggins.
because we got real niggas for him.
I'm hoover.
I see.
So one phone call or text from you.
I sent that nigga from having a rap concert,
excuse me, a rap, rap contract,
a song with King Pill and a video
to being a podcaster,
because you ain't nobody.
You shut that down.
Immediately.
Fuck you mean.
I've been in the set
since I came home.
home for like the last 16
years. I've probably
seen this guy probably once or twice
in 16 years, spoke
to him probably five times.
He don't know nothing about me.
If a nigga think I ain't who
I say I am,
just go check.
Just to put this out there, though,
and I already told you I wasn't going to interview him, right?
Just because I'm not trying to cause any
kind of tension. You can't.
See, this is what
it's not even about you right now.
Because there's a couple of other people who spoke on this situation.
But I'm just saying, he's going to hit me up and he's going to say,
yo, I had my name slandered on your platform.
I want to come on and have my...
This is how we're going to do the slander, right?
He accused me of getting raped.
He accused me of being a booty bandit.
He accused me of all these weird type behaviors that everybody didn't know me.
He made you sound like the worst person ever.
But let me explain to you why.
A person who I just snatched all your emotion would.
He would.
He went on about me for 30 minutes.
Why are you so mad at me?
Because I called and let him know that this nigga right here is a bum.
First of, how you, it's been 16 years, right?
You ain't been to no funerals.
Like, where you've been at?
Like, his video said he's seen us.
He said, bro, you know what we are.
This is all for the cameras, bro.
So we're going to keep his name out of the whole shit.
Okay.
Now, all of a sudden, he called it, Rick Rock, asking how to be a podcaster.
Because you failed at being a Hoover, you failed at being a rapper.
Bitch.
Hoover Street.
Shit.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know him, so.
I don't know him either.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know the nigga either.
Like, I literally don't know him.
Right.
And the craziest thing about it is that I'm just peeping because, see, anytime I speak and I'm on any type of podcast, I don't get nothing, but good.
feedback from every real nigga.
See, because my life, I keep telling you, checking and cheating.
Right. Right. I've really been here.
Really been doing my shit from Hoover Street.
So I'm not concerned about what a PC snitch is saying.
You got 24 hours to bring that 114D lockup order.
Well, you were officially canceled Hovigang.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, well, okay.
I guess we could just get into this.
One of the dices that he tried to use against you
was saying that you are just living off the reputation
from having killed a member of your own hood
in this story that has been recounted
in many, many YouTube videos in which basically you ran into a situation
with another prisoner and ended up taking his life.
Hmm. That's crazy.
See, because, see, let me tell you.
See, I got put on my head during middle school.
Poop from lying, HIP, I guess.
But he was somebody that didn't like my brother.
So he's sick, Bambino, and Baby Day on me,
and a little chill front yard.
And that was my official put on.
In the eighth grade, at Bradhart,
I got kicked out for a gang related shooting.
checking they never cheat
I went to Louisiana
after that
my mom sent me out of town
I went to Tulu Louisiana
and turned their shit up
I talked to him how the gang bang
the west side of bludders in Las Vegas
they're from the west side of Toulola
1,000 ASQ Street
Michael Foreman and all of them
yeah I talked to him how the gang bang
in the 80s
got back in 90
John Muir
All my ops.
Manuel, all my ops.
All my homies.
This is the best part about me.
I say checking ain't cheating.
Oh, you gotta do is go back and ask.
I ain't got nothing but A1 since day one.
So my homies and my enemies.
You're talking about somebody who could even,
like, bro, how do you get marked out in the county jail for drug debts?
But everywhere you go, bro, you got to exchange.
I ain't no excuse behind my name, bitch.
Play with it if you want to.
I'm already going to hell, bitch.
I don't hover.
I'm really like that.
About what I say, I'm willing to die right here and now.
You got your fire.
I got mine.
What's happening?
Hoover, though, real life.
See, this is what I'm saying about your platforms.
Like, Milk 7-4.
He's not from our gang.
Not from our gang.
Milk!
Tell him why you ain't coming to the set, nigger.
Tell him.
Tell him why.
Oh, I don't want to be over here.
Why?
Not by choice, you fuck.
Not by choice.
I spared you because the homie none called me and say, gruey, groovy.
What did he do that you were mad about in the first place?
Originally, some older homies that was getting out of prison, they wanted to get in touch with him, and he was shunning us.
He's not from our community, and I don't know why.
But he grew up in it.
community, right? What the fuck does that mean?
I grew up.
He grew up and identified as whoever throughout his whole
childhood teenage years, right?
Like, I mean... There's stages to this
shit. Right. You can drop the ball at any
minute. I'm 50.
I could be considered a buster tomorrow
if I drop the ball. If I don't bust down, when I'm supposed to bust down, I'm
considered, oh, that shit don't mean nothing. So as a kid,
the fuck that shit mean? Nothing. It's niggas out here dying every day.
Where are you at? You ain't putting no money
in the basket for niggas get buried?
and perhaps or ain't putting in the work.
So why are you still talking about you from our community again?
Okay, but people are going to hear this,
and they're going to say that you're basically saying
anybody who goes on to become successful in any way,
which is,
he probably makes like what,
maybe like five grand a month off YouTube,
maybe he makes 10.
We can make more than selling drugs.
I'm just saying,
it's not like he's like filthy rich.
It's a difference between being famous.
See, if you're famous,
right,
you really have an obligation because,
see,
you're being famous.
you, that means influencing people, right?
I mean, milk is like YouTube famous,
but like within this sort of like,
LA community, in our community, in our community.
He don't got to be no gangbanger no more.
Right.
Like, I just told you, when I told you,
I agreed to come on your shoulder,
I say, man, once y'all come put a podcast studio up over here
in Manchester Park,
so my little homies and eight of sisters and brothers
can learn how to do this shit.
Remember that?
I told you that on the phone.
Yeah.
Okay, so why he ain't done it?
Because he can't come back.
Why can't come back?
that you want to know, huh?
Well, I'll have some pretty good content, sure, yeah.
Next question.
Milk.
Milk.
Bring your ass outside, bitch.
Fuck you speak my name.
Niggas speak my name.
I'm like the boogeyman.
On hove on my pop-up.
Bitch.
On hove.
Texas, New York, wherever fuck you want to be at.
Anywhere.
I know you stay at downtown.
I know your people.
Bro, stop playing with me, bro.
Stop playing with me, bro.
I ain't done anything on you.
See, because me, I ain't got no question.
question mark behind my name.
Cato niggins say he ever fuck me.
You know, I fuck nobody else.
Can nobody ever say I snitch, ran out?
None of that on Hoover since I joined this gang, bitch.
My name, I'm status quo for survival, bitch.
Did you tell milk to take the 7-4 out of his name on YouTube?
Please do.
Take that shit out.
I think he did.
Please, thank you.
I heard that before.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah.
Seven two-point, spoilt milk-ass, nigga.
The fuck, come through.
So are you okay with Back on Fig having, you know,
sort of Hoover branding and orange.
French couches and the name is like a
Figueroa reference and everything.
How do you feel about that? I mean,
they represent our side.
I'm saying smack. I'm no smack person.
I'm saying I fuck with smack.
I supposed to got on his shit before I got on your
shit, but I have to come get in your ass because you on
bullshit. Don't hope.
Don't make this about that. That's why
I'm on this side and you on that side, nigga.
You on bullshit. I can play at both sides.
Well, you probably could, but right now we're playing
in my side. Okay.
No, if the answer is yes
I like the way that they're representing it, then by all
means, just say that because
the fuck do I care.
I don't know. What the fuck do you care?
I'm just curious. I noticed in that
one vlog that you guys did
that someone was like, this is the real back on
fig, and some people kind of took that
as a little bit of a dis, even though
you didn't say it. Well,
I guess what they meant
by that is that, like,
I guess
see, the streets don't really understand.
this YouTube shit. I'm just not really realizing what's going on with that, right?
And I don't really understand the content to get your ass killed.
There's people out here really...
I used to work with them.
Who was that? Back on...
T.R. and...
Yes, I just said. This whole situation, because you hate Hovers because of T.R.
I just said that. This is the fuck I just said from the...
I mean, I interviewed Big Deal, and he actually told me that he doesn't even think that T.
T.R. is a valid Hoover member since he didn't get put on, and he wasn't really doing any.
of that kind of ship.
Well, see, that don't wait.
Let me say something to you.
Like, that don't make you not a valid member of our society,
like our community.
Just because you're not part of the military branch,
don't mean you ain't from our community.
Don't mean we won't come whack on your ass behind that motherfucker.
Oh, I don't understand on business for T-Row?
I won't say I'll stand enough for T-Rail,
but I'll say I stand on it for people who are not affiliate
that's not in my gang,
and they live in my community,
the store owners.
Go play up in there with them.
But he's really, like,
using the branding for his podcast.
I understand that.
I get what he's doing.
I'm saying I get what he's doing.
We ain't on him.
We're on you.
Okay.
I keep thinking that we're off me.
No,
no,
no, no, no.
You're still on that side of the table right there.
So back on fig is going to be approved.
I didn't say what was going to be approved.
I ain't been near yet.
Just like I'm in their ass,
I mean, your ass, I got something
getting in their ass about, too.
You want a tour.
Checking ain't never cheating.
Let me.
Checking.
never cheating. It's only cheating if you ain't checking.
You get that? Like,
but I just think that
Benj, you guys have a platform.
I think you should use it in a more positive
light. See, because most of y'all people are not
going to hell. I am. I'm going to hell for the shit I did.
Let's get back to that. Why are you going
to hell? Just because you kill someone?
I mean, you got off on self-defense, right?
Don't you feel like you were justified?
I mean, if somebody was threatening
me like that in prison,
I feel like that's like the number one.
thing that I would feel like I was justified in doing that for.
And now I'm not telling you how you should feel.
I'm just saying I'm surprised that you feel like you committed the super
grave sin.
Who the fuck talking about that bullshit?
Oh, okay.
So that's nothing.
I'm going to say it's nothing.
Right.
But it's not, that's not the thing that keeps you up in that?
Gang, shit.
Right on time so forth.
Is it good?
Yeah.
I'm good.
Ha.
Yeah.
that question sent your mind off a drift for a moment.
Not so much as a drift, not that question, but see, I'm not sure, but y'all
saying what you want to say what you want to hear.
So I'm kind of like the wielded up the question.
I mean, I guess I'm just curious about how you feel about the situation in prison in general.
Anything else you've ever done in your life, obviously, I don't know.
Well, I'm not going to sit and tell you what I did.
Yeah, feel free.
I agree
because everybody got you labeled
as the police
what you're bad at
not sure
I'm supposed to just
sold his where you're at
no I don't have one
okay
I'm just saying
over though
for sure
but
okay why are you on a hell
like what I'm sorry
why are you going to help
and why are you so sure of it
well
because I believe
in
in repenting for your sins
and I ain't repenting for my
I'm really from home for
but why
Can you repent?
Why would I?
If you really think you did something wrong, you could always apologize, right?
Apologize to who the dead people?
Well, repenting is like apologizing is a God, right?
Well, I guess that's all me.
My God is smooth, right?
And I accept whatever it is supposed to be.
Like, I'm like, I just told you how the gang related shooting at Bradhart.
Like, I don't know who these people that you've been up here playing with, but like, it is what it is.
Like, I'm not playing like I'm from Hover.
I'm really from Hove Street.
But a Christian God would like be...
I'm not a Christian.
You're not.
What are you?
I'm spiritual.
Oh, okay.
I don't believe in religion.
But then how to give you sure you're going to hell?
Because that's what you're saying.
I don't.
I don't believe in any of the shit.
I know you're atheists.
I don't even know why we even talking about that part.
Because you're the one who says that you think you're going to hell.
I don't think I'm going to hell.
I'm pretty wild to believe in hell if you're not a Christian.
I'm pretty sure because the way I believe.
See, the thing about it is this way here.
If you believe that that...
There's a right and wrong.
There you believe that somebody that's going to judge you.
And I don't believe that all my decisions throughout my past have been according to his plan.
I'm looking at more bad deeds than I am good deeds.
So I'm just adding up the possibilities.
Get it.
Well, what about the circumstances that you come from?
I don't think that has anything to do with it.
If you were born in an upper class neighborhood to rich parents, you probably wouldn't have done these things, right?
So it's not really like you.
No, I'm not giving anyone.
You were born into this life, too.
No, fuck all that.
I had choices.
I had a choice to be a buster.
But you didn't make the choice to have those choices.
The fact that that was right outside your door,
you didn't choose to grow up in.
Well, me, I jump headlong into it.
Fuck you mean.
That's me personally.
I chose to be who I am.
I spent all these years building me up.
And if you want to know who I am,
go to your local gang member,
call the penitentiary area with a prison,
where the people,
been peeing that. That's what you call.
Call them and ask him about Gumbi from line tools.
Don't listen to no niggins on YouTube.
Mad, because I pulled his whole
everything.
Are you irritated by
people making videos, glamorizing
that shit? No, what it
is is that, see, everybody
one of those people, every one of those people
is looking for one or two things
and don't even know me that. When I see them,
I'm really going to be on that.
A lot of them, nobody knows who they are.
I agree.
We don't know Warren Callie.
This is, this.
Who are you, Warren Callie?
No, don't do that.
They did my shit.
So I don't know them.
Don't think he did this bullshit lately.
Oh, yeah?
No, there's some whole bullshit.
Uh, uh, what's these weirdos?
What's the little pice of a nigga?
What's the Pice is doing like?
Two gansies for TV.
Oh, this mother.
He's, why am I out here promoting him and he lying about me?
All the, he lied.
He lied about everything.
He's the motherfucker.
They put up this piece.
First of all, let me explain some to you.
A real motherfucker in the streets, right?
No matter of few, neighborhood, blood, whatever.
A real motherfucker in the streets, right?
Right.
We don't give no air time, no action to a motherfucker who then PCed up.
You know what that mean?
That's what you do.
You probably do you do.
I'm probably PC up out of them.
I'm going to try it.
Don't do that.
I'm a try my luck.
Don't do that.
You don't think?
No, no.
And whoever told Torrey Lane to PC up,
y'all need your asswood.
I don't know.
You show you don't know?
I don't know who told him the PC up or if he did.
Wack his boy.
Shit.
What do you mean if he did it?
He's on the protective custody or sensitive needs.
Yeah, I don't know if he had.
If he chose that or if that was...
What the fuck you mean?
You got to choose it.
There's never a situation where...
No, the police don't...
No, fuck no.
What it is, if you're a pedophile,
if you got baby rape charges, shit like that,
that's where you go.
That's what they sent this fucker to.
Because he got stabbed by a guy who's in there for some sort of child sex charge.
Speaking of which...
What's up with you, nigga?
What?
What you mean?
What?
We heard you got some shit on you, too.
I ain't got nothing on me.
No?
No.
Okay.
But yeah, back to that shit, though.
Yeah.
Oh, though.
The nigga, the niger, yeah, toy lines.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it's a whole, in the tabloids, everybody told him, oh, the blacks, they're just going
to have the mess and doing them like that, or it's going to go up in the pen?
No, the fuck it's not.
For what?
He's on a PC or.
He went to the police and said, Mr. Officer, Mr. Officer,
I can't hold my own nuts.
You got to hold them for me.
That's why he got his ass whacked on.
So because it happened in PC, the gangs don't give a shit.
That's its own world.
Once you PC up, the game is over.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Once you snitch, the game is over.
It's over.
You're no longer part of what we part of.
You are a op.
Right.
Yeah.
Or even just go PC.
That's still.
That's a odd.
Exactly the same thing.
That's bad.
Damn.
What you mean?
All I'm saying.
Fuck you mean.
Uh-huh.
Um,
so you weren't the first Gumpy?
Your brother was Gumbi first?
How did he get the name?
It was given to him by his peers.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Was this at a time when Gumbie was still pretty popular?
The cartoon?
I was 10 years old, brother.
Okay.
So I don't know.
Do you in any way have any particular affection for that cartoon character?
Mm-hmm.
Not so much for the character, but for myself, I do.
I made this name.
I'm the only gunby from Hope.
Ain't none of these other niggas on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, but I am.
About this, holy shit.
You got your phone?
Yeah, I mean, I read that article that they wrote about shit, but...
I'm gone.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I'm over there.
Damn.
And you got lighter?
How long I've been up in here?
Man, you ain't paying me for all night.
An hour and a half.
We've been in here an hour and a half already?
Yeah, give me another half hour.
What you mean?
I just, all right.
All right.
We're going to work it off.
We're still barely talked about you.
Okay.
I'm saying we had a whole bunch of other shit to talk about it.
I was hoping you would give me the play-by-play.
What play-by-play?
They said you were in the processing thing.
You're coming back in from the yard, and he was bent down, and you jumped over and bow.
All dramatic.
Is it?
Because it sounded kind of hard for me to imagine.
I'm not going to lie.
This is the craziest thing about it is that, like, with he who, he who named we should not speak, right?
He went on YouTube.
There's a story about me
that got 3.7 million views.
Whoa.
It's called the untold story
of America's Most Dangerous Prisoner.
Like and subscribe,
checking they cheat.
Who, though?
That was you.
The most dangerous prisoner.
No, that wasn't me.
It was about other homie.
Yeah, I'm gang.
It's about the devil.
Right.
Right.
And they did that with AI.
So everything this guy is talking about being in this fucking video, he got from AI.
Is it an AI voice?
Yes.
He said my name Reggie.
And he, this is what he's getting on the internet spewing.
And this is what he, like, this is why I respect a lot of these different podcasts.
They didn't even pick that trash up.
All your thirsty motherfuckers.
And I'm on your head.
Right.
I'm on your head.
I don't make AI crime videos.
But anyway, it's good.
What's happening with you, though?
Back to you, though.
Yeah.
So how we're going to, how we're going to mend this bridge between me,
between me and my homies and you.
I feel like me, you and Pell, or Polk, rather.
Pooke.
Sorry, Polk.
I feel like we're pretty good homies at this point.
We should probably just start a group chat.
No, you ain't my homie.
What?
No, you ain't my homie.
I keep telling you, checking their cheating.
What are you going to do for us, bro?
Give us the same opportunity you get these weird niggins and tell our stories.
Tell them how they knock somebody out.
Like, who knocks somebody out and then allow somebody else to play with their booty?
That's called rape with a foreign object when I was in county jail.
And I am against that.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Because I'm saying you still got him up here, hollering and screaming the people face after the fact.
Like my whole thing is, like, see, when I was coming up and I went to prison, excuse me, for I went to the county jail, it was a mythical person.
I never met him before.
But his name was Tadal from Grape Street.
That's a cool name.
Tadal used to run around, knock people out, and stuff they did.
is four extra to know him?
I don't think, no.
No?
I don't think we'd be interested in anything like that, no.
No?
You don't think so?
Absolutely not.
Same behavior.
You knock somebody out,
and then somebody else takes sexual advantage of him.
He sat on this podcast and said he did not do the kerating.
Okay, but you got a whole other dude from his side saying he did.
I don't know.
I can't fact check it.
Okay.
Why you can't?
Why you can't?
All I can do is ask him.
Why you can't fact check it because it's on the internet?
Is it not to know a bunch of people's opinions are in the internet?
It's not like, I could never prove it on one or another.
This is where it came from.
This is where I'm just trying to show you.
Whether it happened or didn't happen, I'm just trying to show you the climate.
Everybody, everybody's calling the hoover's gay.
But here you got a whole story about one of the eight pieces,
knocking somebody out and at best allowing some other neighborhoods to do something to him sexually.
Then you got the whole situation with Fo Leaf and the made-up shit that he posted did to
Monty B.
The whole time we had that conversation,
we never saw the word Hoover.
You didn't have to.
The carrot conversation.
I didn't even know that that was what this was allegedly.
Well,
I don't know what it is,
bro.
I'm just saying,
like,
you shouldn't promote shit like that
on your channel, bro.
If any,
well, I mean,
I'm saying it's bad.
He's saying he didn't do it.
I feel like that's not really promotion.
Shit.
That's promotion.
That's promotion.
Like,
you're promoting,
like, sexual assaults and shit like that.
That's not grovy at all.
Like,
my whole point is that.
Everybody always talking about the hooves is gay, the who's gay?
But everything they're doing is gay.
Like, just heard a story about this man, knocking somebody out,
and something supposedly happened to the other guys,
but then Foley, he posted did the fake shit to Munchy B.
They say he put the peanut, like.
So that's fake.
That's good to know.
I don't, I don't, yeah, that's like.
I don't know.
Okay.
That'd be good if it was.
Okay, well, like I said before, I'm not here to do any of that.
I'm here for me.
I'm just telling you, the narrative.
that you guys has got going on, right?
All right.
So that situation.
Then you got Conrad from the Ave talking about you're going to knock somebody out and show their butt on the Instagram.
I mean, they're just trolling, right?
I mean, Briebebe was talking about Bucca.
I'm not going to troll.
I'm not going to troll nobody booty.
Like, my, I'm not like this is I'm trying to explain to y'all.
Like, how do you do that?
Like, you can't, like, come on, man, stop playing out here in the streets, bro.
At least from my perspective, it's not meant to be taken literally.
Okay, that's my whole point.
But it is kind of weird because people are actually.
actually doing that in jail.
But this is the climate they said.
Right.
This the climate they said.
Like, I don't know what part of, I'm going to knock you out,
or we can take this fate, we'll lose a draw.
But if you lose, I'm going to do something sexually to you.
That would never be attached to my land, ever.
It never has been claiming this just for decades.
If you like that, you like that.
but if you're not like you'll never hear it if somebody said you'd be like
like you know it's a lot what i don't like about it is the fact that like
you always hear about dudes who fight each other in jail and even though they're
technically enemies or whatever they end up becoming cool at least cordial afterwards
i think that's great that that at least is like the purpose of the fight is so that you
can have a respectable relationship afterwards right but then if you do something that's so
humiliating that like nobody's ever going to forget about it to the person while they're knocked
out obviously that completely changes that then you've got like a a forever war but it's a forever war
but just let me his place up to you a heterosexual man right would never even think about
anything like that they would never even think about i'll knock this man out and then i'm
play with his butt or suck his dick yes nobody would even talk about no
shit like that. So in order
for you to talk about that, it
has to be some sort of truth lingering
in there some way. And the truth
that lingered in a so way, it even affected
a whole other gang to where
they emulated what
they heard they did.
With the pickle.
Yeah, that's fucked.
I'm saying, so that's the climate that you're bringing
about, bro. I mean, I
haven't done it. I've just asked
somebody about it on the podcast and talk about
it. It's not like I fucking promoted it.
No, you didn't promote it, but I'm saying you making it seem like it's cool.
What a disclaimer?
You got a disclaimer saying we don't promote any sexual assault.
Do you want me to put a disclaimer on a video saying we don't promote carrot rape?
Because I'll do it.
I don't care.
I'm down.
That's called rape with a foreign object, whether it's a carrot, a gun, or wherever it is.
And I don't think that's it funny, bro.
Right.
I don't think that's funny.
I'm staunchly against that.
It don't seem like it.
But that's just my opinion.
I mean, never would I, I just explained like how I feel, like how I, I think it's actually, it takes violence to a point where you can't make it any better from there.
And I feel like that's, but I'm just trying to explain some to you.
I have sons.
I would never dehumanize myself to dehumanize another person when I already won.
That's not even human.
How I'm explaining my son.
Yeah, son.
I'll knock the mouth
Stuck of a carrot in his ass
But don't do no gay shit
How do you do that?
I mean, I agree
Like, why is that so tantalizing
That people just want to do it so bad that they
Because they gay
You're just in with a
A violent gay gang member
Like these dudes are gay
Like anybody that we talk about
Knocking a man out
I just told you the story
The dude Tadah out
He's a 6-5 punk
Posted Ben from Great
Street.
Just the rumors.
The stories, the hood myth.
I've never seen him before.
But the story is that he would knock you out and suck your dick if he liked it you.
So what's the difference in knocking somebody else out and letting somebody else suck their
dick, somebody else play with their booty?
You still involved in it.
Again, I am against this.
Yeah, I bet you are.
You're so convinced about me that you think I've got, like, I'm, like, what am?
I'm a fed.
I'm in favor of mail on male.
rape. Yes, with foreign objects.
With four and with carrots, all kinds
of produce. Piggles, carrots,
God knows what else.
Can't do me favorite?
He took that to the back.
Every time I see you, I get a whole, like,
what they're doing up in here? Appreciate you.
He just told the guy running the
boards, Donnie, to turn his hat
around because you're that bothered by your
ops hat of choice. He's a
white boy. You don't know what he was wearing?
They got white boys from over there, too, just like we got
white boys from where we're from.
Maybe he had one of them.
You, I don't know, y'all.
I don't employ anybody who, like, works in the office that's an active gang member.
You a damn lie, you got four extra.
They got a fucking clown mac.
They do podcasts.
What the fuck?
It's all the same shit.
I'm just saying.
He here, he gets all the bullshit they got.
You was in here when them dinkas was in here, all that bullshit they had going on?
You was here?
Yeah.
On gang, he was here.
So that means, so that means he's susceptible, he's acceptable to their rhetoric, to their
propaganda.
Do you think he might be coming a crypt?
Who?
Donnie?
No, I'm from Seattle originally, though.
Oh, then you know what the Hoover's at up there?
On Hoover?
We got three four different sets up there.
Oh, dang.
Oh, nice, nice.
I think I've seen Polka up there before.
Yeah, we, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Stop playing.
Stop playing.
Just banged on the video guy, huh?
I just told him that.
He's from Seattle, though.
Okay.
I'm from who from the Boston area, so I would wear a B hat,
if I was a guy I wore hats.
Would you be willing to accept that?
For me, I was like a non-participant in gang life.
If you were not a participant in gang life,
then we don't even have that I'm also not really a baseball fan.
Didn't that mean you just troll?
That means you just trod.
It's not even trolling.
Why would you have on a hat?
I used to wear those hats all the time, though, when I lived in New York.
Hmm.
I was still in the hat part of my life, you know?
How that, uh, merch?
They took our merch?
I swear I got.
They're straight off Figaro.
Gang shit.
Hoover,
over the hoodoo.
Oudow!
Y'all struck it up the spot.
Y'all struck it up.
Y'all struck it up.
Gangit.
I'm suing the Hoosers.
Oh, damn.
Here y'all got me in trouble on it.
Hoover though.
We were made that,
the Adam 22.
Oh, you like that one?
I already got it.
I need that.
You're going to have that one.
Yeah.
They were taking it anyway.
You see that?
They was taking it anyway.
Polk is going to wear an Adam 22 hoodie.
How do you feel about that?
Probably not.
You don't think so?
All right, we ain't taking nothing from here
that we ain't supposed to be taken.
We heard you to police.
You probably been letting him tell you.
Put a fed case on you.
No, I probably put it low jack.
Where do you stay at these days?
Why you want to know.
Out the way?
Out the way.
Why?
Because I pretty don't want to hurt nobody else, bro.
I'm 50 years old.
It's a whole new game.
Quiet life is better?
If I had one.
So you still live a wild life?
Live in La Vida Loca?
No.
No.
Not at all.
Not at all.
But I'm always in tune my, my nephews.
Why do you think so many people kind of outgrow gang life and you've never really wavered?
Well, I mean, shit, I'm not really sure.
But at the same time, like, maybe they felt that their commitment to what they believed in was,
wavered or
I mean it was lessened
but me it's the opposite
I believe in my community
you know saying this gang is just
the military fraction of our community
I'm saying we have a whole community
okay but there's like
believing in your community
and then there's telling the video
got to turn his hat around because it's an
neighborhood hat
that's like a different level of commitment
if I say I'm willing to die for this shit
right now just like you're sitting with five
I'm sitting with fire.
Right.
I just think it's kind of interesting that it...
Was there ever a time when you thought about leaving behind
and just having a different type of life?
Leaving a different...
Leaving my family behind?
I mean...
Just hanging it up and just decided, you know what?
I'm not going to speak about this shit anymore.
I'm just leave this a part of my past.
I mean, it's a part of my past right now.
But at the same time, I'm a part of this.
You don't retire.
You just go to a different position.
I respect it.
How are you going to not stop believing in something that you're willing to die for?
No, for sure.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Those good talking to you, even though you kind of flip a script on me.
Okay.
Well, I'll be ready for the next one.
I feel like we're going to do more of these, yeah.
I agree.
I bet you we is.
I'm with you.
So you might as have put me on the schedule.
What are we doing?
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Okay. Does you get anything you need it?
Oh, shit. I guess I missed a four extra call while we were doing this, damn.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, okay. I'll have to figure that out.
He's going to impress you.
You've been here getting bullied by the niggins out of.
You been here getting bullied out of?
When they be doing it to you, Adam?
Who?
Four extra there. What they be here doing to?
Bullying me?
King Pell.
I wouldn't even get to that, nigga.
Like, we still rolling? We still trolling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, like, what was that situation about?
No, it's just, okay.
But we care because it's a whole situation that you didn't cause.
You caused all this, Adam.
You caused all this.
Even the Kingfield situation.
Also, you said we didn't get to that.
We definitely talked about that.
We did?
Yeah.
Okay, well, maybe I'm trying to get on your ass again.
Yeah, I think that's it to say.
All right.
Shout out, Gumbie.
Shout to all the Hoover's, the whole groove community out there.
One nation under a groove, if you were.
Oh, gang.
Excuse me?
Oh, yes.
We ain't got to that point yet.
That's on our next one.
Oh, oh, gosh.
Yeah, look.
Checking, ain't cheating.
Check and subscribe.
On the real nigga TV.
Hi.
Adam 12.
We out.
We out.
No, John, Ber coolest podcast.
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Shout out, Gumby.
It's all right.
It's all right.
Oh, good.
